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A BIG Car-MESS-A! | RHOC Recap with Alexis Janssen · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King Alexis Jansen. I are back to recap, yes,
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  Speaker 1: the latest episode of Orange County, but we're also here
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  Speaker 1: to recap Alexis Facelif, the.
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  Speaker 2: New Alexis that's been back podcasting with you for three
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  Speaker 2: weeks now or four?
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  Speaker 3: Wait?
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  Speaker 2: Was this week five that we never talked about because
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  Speaker 2: it was a secret, But now it's out.
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  Speaker 3: I was weaking good.
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  Speaker 2: Before and afters, and then I wanted, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to make sure that it was like it was healed,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't want to talk.
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  Speaker 3: About it until I was proud and felt comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, this is the secret you've been teasing for
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  Speaker 1: the past five weeks.
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  Speaker 4: It finally is being revealed. And look, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So talk to me about this, because you've already a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful woman. What made you want to get a face
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  Speaker 1: lift in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was it was really a lot about my
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  Speaker 2: neck and photos. And I know we're our worst critics, right, Carlos.
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  Speaker 2: You will pick something apart about yourself.
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  Speaker 3: That no one else notices.
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  Speaker 2: I was really getting frustrated in all my photos and
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  Speaker 2: it was like, no matter how much I stuck my
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  Speaker 2: neck out or what I did, and then my face
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  Speaker 2: looked funny and I'm just like, oh my gosh, let's
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  Speaker 2: just chop it off. So and that happens with older age, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I know it's not like I'm obese or like
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  Speaker 2: I need to just lose weight there. It's that it
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  Speaker 2: was just skinned. So that's what started it. But you
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  Speaker 2: can't do it. You can't do just an You have
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  Speaker 2: to The doctor explained this when I went to like
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  Speaker 2: four consultations because John was and my kids were so
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  Speaker 2: against it. He had to consult with me like four times.
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  Speaker 2: Poor guy sure earned his money on that one, right,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm like back the door stuff every day. So anyways,
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  Speaker 2: he's explained it like you have to pull everything a little.
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  Speaker 2: So he only did three millimeters on me, which is
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  Speaker 2: super tiny, and it was just.
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  Speaker 3: Enough to make me look like I got a good
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  Speaker 3: night's sleep.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the funny part is everyone's commenting on my
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  Speaker 2: instagrams and stuff and they're like, well, you wasted your
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  Speaker 2: time and I can't even tell the difference. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, that's exactly what you want. Like it just
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  Speaker 2: makes me look like I got good sleep.
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  Speaker 3: And that's all I was after.
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  Speaker 2: And and my neck is gone and you didn't even
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  Speaker 2: notice my neck so perfect.
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  Speaker 4: See, so that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: We've been doing this for like two years and I
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  Speaker 1: but you're right, I never noticed anything wrong with your neck.
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  Speaker 1: And your face already gorgeous. So when I saw it
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  Speaker 1: before and after, I was like everyone else, like, look,
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  Speaker 1: the good thing.
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  Speaker 4: Listen was a great thing.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like a Chris Jenni face lip where it
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  Speaker 1: was such a visible difference.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's the goal. That's what doctors.
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  Speaker 2: When you're starting at forty nine or fifty, that's the
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  Speaker 2: goal is if you wait till you're sixty, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be such a huge difference that it is like
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  Speaker 2: when you walk in a restaurant, like the what the
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  Speaker 2: hell did you just do? When I walked in the restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's like, no one really notices. They thought it
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  Speaker 2: was my hair like your hair, or you got a
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  Speaker 2: new tan, or you've been vacationing so you look good.
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  Speaker 2: They couldn't put their finger on it. And so now
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  Speaker 2: when I get it done at sixty five or sixty
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  Speaker 2: then it's going to be just another little nip and
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  Speaker 2: then you don't have the huge one. So yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think Chris Jenner looks amazing, but was fantastic?
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  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: Just yeah, she just did have a very It was
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  Speaker 2: it was like, oh my gosh, difference. But when you
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  Speaker 2: looked at my before and after pictures, be honest with me,
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  Speaker 2: because you always are.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, You're not my feelings.
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  Speaker 2: Could you tell in the before and afters a little
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  Speaker 2: bit like it just looked brighter or refreshed or did
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  Speaker 2: you not?
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  Speaker 1: It was? The thing is it was small. It was
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  Speaker 1: a small difference. And what's funny is, I'll speak for myself.
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  Speaker 1: I have mentioned that. Look, I can tell on oc
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  Speaker 1: who's had a little work done because it's visible, right
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  Speaker 1: in terms of you could tell off season some work
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  Speaker 1: was done and it's not jarring, but it's obvious. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's what I you is obvious. So with yours it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't obvious. Like the thing is, if you would have
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  Speaker 1: never said anything to me, I would have said to
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  Speaker 1: myself and this is me being honest.
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  Speaker 4: Alexis got a good makeup artist.
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  Speaker 1: I love.
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  Speaker 3: That's perfect.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Like she has a good makeup artist and good.
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  Speaker 3: New York lamb's good. I got all oc glam. Who
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  Speaker 3: squad's good? I got all kinds of good glam squads.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, you look absolutely studying. So who was the person
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  Speaker 1: that did this amazing work on you?
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  Speaker 2: It's doctor Laky and Beverly Hills, and he's he's worked
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  Speaker 2: on quite a few other reality people, and I just
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  Speaker 2: I looked at a lot of his before and afters
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  Speaker 2: and he he just made me feel so comfortable because
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  Speaker 2: I was nervous. And then he had to meet with
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  Speaker 2: John and John was grilling him and and and you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then my kids. So I sent my kids my
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  Speaker 2: before and afters and I said, see, guys, now, aren't
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  Speaker 2: you glad?
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  Speaker 3: Mom did that? And they were like, Mom, which one's
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  Speaker 3: the before and which one's the after?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, the befores are all on top and
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  Speaker 2: they're like then they're like, oh, okay, we're happy now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we like it. We look good, we love it.
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  Speaker 2: So shout out to doctor Lakey for not ticking off
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  Speaker 2: my kids and my husband.
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  Speaker 3: So we're all still friends. Thank God, you look good.
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  Speaker 4: You look good.
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  Speaker 1: And what's funny is sometime you hear horror stories like
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  Speaker 1: I heard the other day, which is Amanda Francis is
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  Speaker 1: not returning to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 3: What the heck?
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  Speaker 2: I almost called you because I and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think I just got busy or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I almost called because I was you and.
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  Speaker 2: I are such lovers of her, like we love her
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just sad, and I thought it was gonna
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  Speaker 2: because she decided not to because she had a tough season.
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  Speaker 3: It's because she wasn't asked back as what I got
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  Speaker 3: from that article.
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's the deal.
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  Speaker 1: So TIMS, which I would listen, I would go on
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  Speaker 1: record saying that TMZ is ninety nine point nine to
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  Speaker 1: nine percent accurate, like they they do not report on
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  Speaker 1: anything that isn't fully outsourced, and they have an amazing reputation.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a great that's a great ninety is a
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  Speaker 2: great rate, like it's a great for what you're discussing
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  Speaker 2: and bringing the real news.
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  Speaker 4: So go ahead, yes.
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  Speaker 1: So tmzy reported that Amanda Francis was not asked back
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  Speaker 1: by production for the show. Amanda Francis on Instagram did
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  Speaker 1: a LinkedIn post and she mentioned, which listen, I want
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  Speaker 1: to give credit where credit is due. So Alexis, let
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  Speaker 1: me read to you exactly what she said, so that
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  Speaker 1: there isn't, you know, mince words in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: she said on her Instagram. So Amanda Francis the same
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  Speaker 1: day TMZ revealed it, and we really do honestly, Alexis,
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  Speaker 1: because we've been in this business for.
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  Speaker 4: A long time.
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  Speaker 1: TMZ scooped it first hours, maybe an hour later or two.
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  Speaker 1: Amanda France has then posted on her Instagram and this
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  Speaker 1: is what she had to say. I'm not gonna read everything,
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  Speaker 1: but the part that I think you and I should
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  Speaker 1: discuss is she mentioned while this show gave me an
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  Speaker 1: incredible platform, a platform is not the same thing as
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  Speaker 1: a foundation.
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  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I am taking the clarity, the lessons, the plot twist,
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  Speaker 1: the spiritual warfare, and the occasional deeply unnecessary dinner party
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  Speaker 1: drama into all that God has for me. Now and
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  Speaker 1: to anyone watching, please know your next move does not
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  Speaker 1: require anyone's approval, and you can be grateful for an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity and know when it's time to leave. Uh huh okay,
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  Speaker 1: making it seem like it was her decision, which I listen,
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  Speaker 1: I will say.
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  Speaker 4: This, I haven't. I haven't contacted my sources to get
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  Speaker 4: the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Well, honey, if you if you DMed her or texted her,
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  Speaker 2: she'd tell you because like you had her on your podcast,
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  Speaker 2: like you guys have a broad ship now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I want to be honest, and you know
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  Speaker 4: this to be true.
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  Speaker 1: There's a few OC women who were not asked back
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  Speaker 1: and they made it seem like they left on their own.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in all fairness, I think that that's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Is that like for me, I admit when I quit
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  Speaker 3: and I met when I got fired.
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  Speaker 2: So CA I'm looking, Hey, yeah, I got Yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: are honest, and it's like nope, but I got canned.
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  Speaker 2: You know, who knows if we're gonna get us back
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  Speaker 2: ever again. You never know, but like and you never
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  Speaker 2: if you're gonna take it, they offer back again. But
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  Speaker 2: so I think that it could go either way. I
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  Speaker 2: want to get to the bottom of it. Maybe all
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  Speaker 2: DM or Carlos.
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  Speaker 4: The thing is this because she's listen.
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  Speaker 1: One thing BRABO does do they I'll give them credit
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  Speaker 1: for as well when it comes to the way they
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  Speaker 1: treat their housewives, who they let go. They allow them
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  Speaker 1: to say whatever narrative they want to say, are so white,
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  Speaker 1: and they.
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  Speaker 2: Just they just stay they stip rise above and they
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  Speaker 2: stay quiet, and they're just like whatever. They don't ever
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  Speaker 2: go back in the media and say, actually, we fired her,
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  Speaker 2: we canned her, we gave her a break, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think Andy Cohen has been honest about
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  Speaker 2: things like that on watch What Happens Live about like
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  Speaker 2: giving Vicky a break, you know, like she took a
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  Speaker 2: pause or whatever. I think he's honest about that kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing. But in the press, they don't go back
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  Speaker 2: and forth with the housewife.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, No, once the housewives says they're fired, Andy
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  Speaker 1: Ben talks about like like like what Tamra said he did,
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  Speaker 1: It'll feel real good when they ask you back like
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  Speaker 1: that was his response to her publicly. So the thing is, huh,
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  Speaker 1: did Amanda Francis not get asked back?
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  Speaker 4: I will say this, and I'm being very honest.
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  Speaker 1: She won a lot of people over in the end,
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  Speaker 1: and I found her to.
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  Speaker 4: Be extremely interesting and you know that, and so did you.
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  Speaker 1: It was eight women and unless they found someone that,
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  Speaker 1: unless they found a person or two that is undeniable.
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  Speaker 1: That to me is the only reason, the only reason
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  Speaker 1: why they will look at their roster and say we
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  Speaker 1: have to get rid of her to make room for
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  Speaker 1: someone else.
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  Speaker 4: Who they may think is the right choice.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought something different, or you might be right though,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, but I was thinking because she didn't
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  Speaker 2: really create a best friendship or a good friendship with
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  Speaker 2: sincere friendship with any of the women, I thought maybe
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  Speaker 2: they were like she rubbed a couple of the women
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  Speaker 2: the wrong way, super bad and like you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think it. I think Amanda had such good singers and
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  Speaker 2: comebacks when she was put on the spot that I
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  Speaker 2: think she was amazing and ha held her own. But
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if maybe if that was part of it,
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  Speaker 2: and they were just like you know, the other women
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  Speaker 2: are not that they ice you out, because you can't
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  Speaker 2: really ice someone out on the show. But maybe production
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  Speaker 2: was just like, you know, she doesn't really get along
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  Speaker 2: with everybody. But it could be what you're saying, and
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  Speaker 2: it could be that she quit. It could be the
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  Speaker 2: production heard she wasn't into it and it wasn't happy
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of the drama, and and so maybe
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  Speaker 2: it was more of a mutual thing, like the show
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  Speaker 2: knew she wasn't get really into it, she was probably
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  Speaker 2: gonna quit, and they just both severed, you know, parted ways.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is my other theory. If she did quit,
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why she would would be would
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  Speaker 1: be if she wanted more money. I just I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't see her leaving because the show was too dramatic.
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  Speaker 4: I I follow.
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  Speaker 1: Her and when Rihanna Rihanna DMed her and said don't
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  Speaker 1: you leave because she was being very coy with it,
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  Speaker 1: which which.
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  Speaker 4: Is a housewife play. Are you coming back?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe Rihanna DMed her. Amanda posted it
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  Speaker 1: I would too, and she here she goes, election she goes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if Rihanna wants me to stay, maybe I
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  Speaker 1: should really stay. And I was like Amanda, Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe she wanted more money.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think? She's a money queen after.
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  Speaker 2: All, I know, And I think that could very will
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  Speaker 2: be true, because I mean, you know, it's a known
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  Speaker 2: fact they don't pay the first year girls anything. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you are making, you are making chump change to be
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  Speaker 2: a first season housewife.
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  Speaker 3: It it wasn't always that way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we all started, you know, a decade and
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  Speaker 2: a half ago, or fifteen years ago I got, which is.
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  Speaker 3: A decad and a half.
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  Speaker 2: They paid a little bit different. So so I almost
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  Speaker 2: wonder if maybe you're right. And she was like, for
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  Speaker 2: everything I just endured and went through and this drama
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  Speaker 2: that I had no idea about. I did the first
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  Speaker 2: year for free, basically, and if you don't give me
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  Speaker 2: what I think I'm worth, and maybe she could, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because it's super time consuming, it's super unexpected, the things
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  Speaker 2: that happen at dinners and things like that, and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times uncalled for.
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  Speaker 3: Like Amanda said, so I don't know you're right. I
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  Speaker 3: think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: So the rumor is this, I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: know this person, but I'm a huge fan. The show's
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  Speaker 1: along on me here, But I was a huge fan
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  Speaker 1: of million dollars listing La. Yeah, Tracy Tudor is rumored
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  Speaker 1: to be a Beverly Hill's contender.
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  Speaker 4: As a housewife.
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  Speaker 1: Who I will say this if it's not true, Alex
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  Speaker 1: Baskin Bravamp on that phone, I Carlos King the first.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to see Tracy Tudor as a housewife.
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  Speaker 1: I she Tracy is beyond gorge. She is spicy, she's
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  Speaker 1: a great mom. She's a stute businesswoman, she is wealthy.
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  Speaker 1: She had well she had I think they broke up.
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  Speaker 1: She had a hot young trainer as a boyfriend.
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  Speaker 4: Like, Tracy is that girl.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm telling you I want to see Tracy Tudor
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  Speaker 1: as a Beverly Hills housewife.
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  Speaker 4: Make that shit happens. Am I wrong?
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  Speaker 3: She just had a facelift too.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, she was one of my inspos, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because Tarry was one of the first inspos, because she
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  Speaker 2: got hers at forty, not her first one fifty, and
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  Speaker 2: then my other best friend got her, and then Tracy
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  Speaker 2: Tudor got hers. I'm like, girl, I am I am
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  Speaker 2: on board now because I looked at your before and afters.
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  Speaker 3: And I am on board.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, hoddy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, if you had your brother a new
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  Speaker 2: season with Tracy Tutor or or keep Amanda, what would
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  Speaker 2: you say.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, alexaid, you are so shady, let me plug in
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  Speaker 1: my life. I am.
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  Speaker 3: I am shady as I drink my Lani Hani shady.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well think about it, because that's a hard call.
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  Speaker 4: That's a hard call.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what if you could get rid of one housewife
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  Speaker 2: and add Tracy and keep Amanda?
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  Speaker 4: If I had okay, well I went Jennifer.
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  Speaker 3: Tillia is a full time.
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  Speaker 2: But we're talking about Beverly Hills and we're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be okapping recop.
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  Speaker 4: We will we will, we will, we will, we will
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  Speaker 4: will we.
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  Speaker 3: Will Otillia is a full time.
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  Speaker 1: I will lose Ston to keep Amanda and add Tracy Tudor.
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  Speaker 2: I do not agree. I love me some Sutton. I
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  Speaker 2: love she brings a totally different I love me some Sutton.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I would you too, I answer your question, what would
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  Speaker 4: you tooth?
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  Speaker 2: Honey?
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  Speaker 3: I was just gonna go there.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would keep Amanda if I had the
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  Speaker 2: But if Amanda quits or gets fired, I would then
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  Speaker 2: say Tracy's great if we can't make or bring her
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  Speaker 2: on as a friend of and put Jennifer in full cast.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay, So rain drops Alexis and I
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  Speaker 1: know what you guys think, but I will say this, Amanda,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: you were amazing on the show.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Is rare.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: You.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: We love you.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: It's rare to see a housewife have it hard in
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the beginning and then to win the fans over towards
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the end. Even h Anna loved you. So it's a
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: tough gig. We'll see what happens, but I will. I
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: will support Amanda and her new book, just like I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: will support Carmela as my developer real estate agent and
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: broke her.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I think it's such a word of some semantics.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I just think that if say, she's a developer and
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: VICKI doesn't like that word, it's like, who cares?
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: She's a boss lady.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like both both Vicky and her
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: are boss women. So it's okay if Vicky wants to
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: call herself a you know, queen of realists or Queen
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: of insurance or whatever the title.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like I don't care.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: No, So let's get into it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: So the episode kicks off when you get to get
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: both perspectives, and I love with scenes do this. I
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: love when scenes are there's two separate scenes and they're
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: all like integrated into one to where they live back
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and forth and seeing it. So I really did enjoy
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: seeing Carmela Emily.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: With plus Gen and Vickie and just.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Getting sort of that world collided. Of course, listen, they're
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: still talking about the fact that Carmela bought Emily ad
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: or bag and a dial do and Janice with Vicky,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and Vicky is not feeling Carmela at all. Carmela learns
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: from Why and Carmela thinks that Vicky is stuck in
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties mindset and doesn't understand why she has
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: such a.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Heart on for her. Why do you think this is
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: the case.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Is it just simply simply that Vicky is hazing the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: new Girl, like is it just that? Or do you
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: think that Vicky is onto something questioning the validity of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Carmela's career.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I think it's the second.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I think because Vicky Vicky is known, both are kind
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: of true. Though Vicky is known for having the heart
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: on for the first the New girl. I mean, she
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: had it hard for me for a whole year once
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I got Hazed into the group. Then, you know, and
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: then she was starting to lose her marriage with Dawn,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and her and I had that deep talk about like
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: She's like, don't whatever it is, Alexis, don't let the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: show get in the way of her marriage. Don't get
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and Jim and I were fine at that point. We
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: weren't having issues at that point, and so she's just like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: put your marriage first, you know, stay married to your
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: husband and your kids have their dad. Because we all
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: know Vicky's still has a hard time and feels guilty about,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you know, family. I think that she does do that
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to the newbies, but I truly think Vicky has a
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: gut feeling or doesn't like just doesn't like Carmela. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: truly think that because I know Vicky and she usually
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: she'll come around by the end or soften up a
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: little or or whatever.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So we'll have to see how it the episodes play out.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: But what was I just listening to, Oh oh oh
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: h what this is why I have a little bit
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of intel watch what Happens Live. Gina was on last
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: night after and something was said about one of the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: one of the people in the audience or whatever said
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: something about Carmela and Vicky's disagreement and Gina goes.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: And it gets worse. Oh no, it was the person.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: With Gina said, you know, I have it, I feel
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: bad for Carmela, and Gino goes, oh, and it gets worse.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So I don't think that Vicky is gonna lighten up
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: on this and does not. I think she does not
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: like Carmela. Wait for the reunion.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I bet this is reality with the King, and I'm
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Karl was king.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Let's get back into the show.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Listen she is Listen, Vicky is saying things about Carmela
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that is a little bit unfortunate for Carmela's reputation in
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: her business. And not to skip towards the end, but
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I do want to bring this up. Listen, love Vicky,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Vicki's great. I will say, I am on Carmela's side
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: when she's like, I thought you were a woman who
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: supports women, and I think, listen, Bickie to me was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: somebody who appreciated of working woman. A hard working woman, right,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a woman who isn't relying on a man.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Those are what she.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Has said publicly on the show and interviews, which is
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: why it's hard for me to stomach why she's given
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Carmela hard time because she listen, everything's google ball, So
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: if you really did think she would a fraud, all
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you have to do is google her on MLS, see
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: what seeing what she has done. And I think Carmela,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Carmela got these girls shaken up and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I you know, these women, what is it about Carmela
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: that has And we'll get to this later with Gina,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: she's these women are like giving her a hard time.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Is it just is it just hazy or is it
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: deeper than that? I can't I can't put my finger
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's there's a true initiation process with it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I'm no matter what housewife franchise you're on, I think
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: there's an initiate, an initiation process.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like a sorority.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: But but what I will say for Carmela is I
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: think it's because she's coming in so hot, like Okay,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna bring a dildo. I'm just gonna
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: be bold and buy a do Or clutch that was
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: twenty seven hundred dollars and put a dildo in it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I think that it's because she's she's not just kind
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: of like slowly integrating herself. She's like, Bam, I'm here
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm bringing a dildo and I'm gonna make everybody laugh.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: And I also, you know, she just has a.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Very and I'm still married to my ex my husband
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that I'm not getting a divorce front, but we're done.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just a lot of things about her
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that are so kind of in your face bam, that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the women are like, okay, what and like when Vicky said, like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Vicky's questioning so much about that she made the one
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: point four million on her first house?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Do you believe that?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Or is like so, I wonder if some of the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: things that Carmela is saying are just so bold that
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: it makes the women. And maybe it's because there's no
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: freaking storyline for anyone and it's a boring season and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: they're just trying to create some shit.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at how boring the episodes are right now. Sorry, guys,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: it's not their fault. It's just for some reason, I
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: don't know, there's no real drama.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: We're still talking about dildos and white boxes with words
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: put in them.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Alexis.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Not only do you have a facelift, my love, you
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: also have a shade left because when I say to
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you that was listen, that was supreme shade. Because supreme
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: shade is what it's unexpected. I had no idea it
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: was gonna go there. And that's how alexis shit.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Next time war me.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: No, Carlos, we don't operate like that. We made the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: pack to never call our text before any of these podcasts. Yes,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: and if we are authentic and we don't let you
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: know where we're going at any given time.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: You don't know.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Where this bus is taking you. We could go right,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: or we could do two or left. Okay, you just
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: But the one thing you know is.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: It's honesty coming out of both of us. There is
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: no There is.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: No plan, all right, because you don't have tough of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: thoughts of what you just said. I'll stay it towards
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the end, okay, So remind me of lex Is because.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I, oh, honey, I'm not gonna let it go.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: So s borla alert, I can cur okay. So the
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: thing is, Gin is.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Being asked by Carmela to help her.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I can't get it out because it's so funny to me.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: So Carmela's like, hey, Jen, I know you need money, you.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: Need to do something, so abou you're gonna come clean
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: my toilet, Come clean my toilets and my and then
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: you can dust my window sills and then I'll give
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: you twenty grand.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Did you like?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Would you like that?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: And we can even do it under the table gins
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: you don't have to claim taxes on it, can do.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: The to come look at tiles and.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: And how does she even know what if Jin can't
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: pick a tile for the to save the life of her.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: And she chooses like a stone that doesn't even.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Go with the room. I mean, I don't.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Hey, it was in my in my mind when I
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: first was watching it, I thought that is so sweet.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Though I don't care that is such a sweet gesture.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: It just it just makes me feel like though, like
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what do I.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Ever own the house that Jin could do handyman work?
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Can you do that? It's like does it work for
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: task rabbit? Like whatever?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Listen, if you want to give anybody twenty thousand dollars,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Me and Alexis was split it and make sure that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: these recaps are in your favor.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Carlos, we take ten five each due, we'll go down.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: We'll give you a discount, your fifty person off today.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: We're cheap. Listen.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: It doesn't it's just a good deal. We're a good deal.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: That's great over here.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Talk about a bargain like you don't have to spend
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: twenty to listen.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I loved it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Just a great a great woman to listen. It's one
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: thing to sort of be like, hey, my be my intern,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: be my shadow, watch me do this job, see this
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: something you're interested in, but to have Emily ask her like, so,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: how much you're gonna pay her?
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I do think Carmela just made up the number.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I really think she had no idea what even the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: thought process of that was. I do think she threw
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: out twenty thousand dollars. But I also love.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: That Vicky said, I bet you that Ryan.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Is going to take advantage of this opportunity and find
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: some way to insert his ass in there.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I think I don't agree with you on that she
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: just pulled that number out of there.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I think she knows what.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: She probably pays someone else to be her assistant on
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a project, and so probably it was just like I'll
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: just Paygen to be my assistant in this project, and
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: it's probably twenty grand, So I don't know. I think
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: that I think she probably had a I mean, if
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you know your finances, if you run a business, you
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: know how much you pay X, Y and Z. Don't
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: It doesn't just slip your mind. Like I know how
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: much I paid my kid yesterday, and if it was
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: twelve dollars, I'm like, you owed me that twelve dollars
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: back because that was for Starbucks and I'm not paying
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: for all your Starbucks.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Is you know, like I know every dollar. I think
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: she probably did. I think she probably didn't know the number.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But I thought I took that scene with Ryan, I
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: thought that she said that Vicky goes.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe I heard it wrong. I thought, Vicky.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Goes, you know, she's probably going to ask Rian to
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: be the next person to flip his house, like you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, yes, I took it the other way,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Yes I am going to insert himself.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: But that Vicky was saying, she's probably Carmela.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I don't trust her so much that I think she's
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: probably going to go to Ryan and ask that to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: flip their house.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: And that's where Jen's going to be inserted, you know,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, no, no, no.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think you're right too. So
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the thing is, we'll see what happens with that. I
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: do like that she's throwing Jenna bone because listen, Jen
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: has been very honest about you know, listen, she broughted
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: money from her parents two seasons ago, so she's been
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: very honest about her financial status. So the fact that
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Carmela's trying to help her, I do like that. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: also like the fact that Carmela is telling everybody about
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: her past because I think she's playing the game of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: let me tell you my tea before you investigate me
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and try to throw it against me. So to know
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that she violated a restraining order because she had an
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: altercation with the woman that had some sort of dealings
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: with her husband that she's estranged from, and they were
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: in the strip club in Ohio, dancing on a pole
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and she tried to like give her these loves and
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the friend through a drink on her great casting. This
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: is the type of woman I want to see on
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, the thing is is like that's another
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: thing that I think these women are just like, you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: like I said, she's coming in with beam because not
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: many of the housewives have restraining orders or have been
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: arrested or assaulted for that matter, you know. So I
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: mean all at once, I just think that it's it's
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like making the women question like everything.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: But for me, I love that she was open about it, Carmela,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: and that she just divulged everything. And it's just like
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: you can try to you know, find it and scoop
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: it up on me and then try to play it
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: against me or like tmz me with it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: But whatever, I'm just gonna let you know what happened.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: This is what happened, and I loved it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I listen, I really do like her a great deal,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and I like the fact that she's open and honest
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: about her past what she's going through, and listen, I
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: found her to be super interesting.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: So Vicky, Shannon, Jean, and Heather.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: They went out to you know, have drinks and Shannon
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: talks about the state of her and Tamra's friendship and
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: said that they were exchanging friendly texting and how she
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: really wants it to you know, to stay that way.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: But obviously she's still cautious. I gotta be honest with you.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I don't give two shits about this storyline. I just
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: don't care. I'm not investing in treating megas goodbye. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: don't care.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I do not spoiler alert.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: In real life, Shannon and Tamera will never be friends ever.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Everybody knows that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I feel like they're trying to make it seem like
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: there's hope.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Well, of course they are. It's the TV show, Carlos,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: That's what they're supposed to be doing. But it's all
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: about conflict resolution.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: But so I think.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: That, Okay, see and I have as a viewer, I
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: have a different look on it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I am liking it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I am liking that, Okay, we can finally move on
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: because I'm telling you, the stick of it keep going
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: on and on for two and a half four years.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Whatever they held timers in the back is really old.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: That if Tamer walks in the room, Shannon goes like
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: this and ignores her. It's like, Bros, you guys are
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: on a TV show together.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: You have to find a way to make some kind
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: of an amicable working relationship.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: You ain't gotta like your secretary or your partner's secretary.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: But you gotta sayhyd or when you walk in the door.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: You gotta be amicable because you work in the same building,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: so you're kind of the same thing.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: So I was excited to I was excited.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, no, The thing is this, I just
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: don't need it spoon fed to me that we're trying
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to off camera have these friendly texts. I agree with
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: everything you're saying, Like, yes, I don't. I'm not saying
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I want you try to fight. All I'm saying is
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I don't need every episode to hear about a text
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: she said, good morning, and can I bring over her
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: paper towels to help you clean?
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Like I, I.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Don't need to be told what you guys are doing.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: I'm okay.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm actually okay with you guys co existing at work
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and not having to speak to each other besides pleasantries.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know, like I don't know. I don't I
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: don't listen rain drops.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Let us know in the comments if you really do
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: need to hear life updates about a text between Tamra
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Shannon to make it balid that they are trying to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: work in their friendship. I'm just saying they're not friends,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: they'll never be friends. I'm with Alexis Janssen. Co exists.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You guys are co workers, and I'm okay with that.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I think they're just trying to make it look like
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: it is happening behind the scenes, not just for the camera.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I think that's the point, and that's what you don't want.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You don't want to see the for the camera, behind
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the scenes texts. Instead, you'd rather just see what plays
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: out on care and let it go and leave it be.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly all of that and more and more, Okay.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Next, speaking of dramatics, half of the bro has alleged.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: That she did not sleep last night on her plush
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: four hundred count pillow sheets from the Ritz Carlton.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Honey, her pillow count ate for her? She count ate
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: four hundred.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: She's twelve or sixteen hundreds, honey, because I got at twelve,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: she's at sixteen or two. They probably I don't even
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: know if they make a two thousand, but she ain't
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: had a four hundred.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: That's at your.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: College kids dorm sheets. Just letting like we had to.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Get please correct me, have our apologies for giving your threat.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: How the the same as your children's dorm.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, children's dorm.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Her children's dorm also have twelve hundred sixty. I'm just
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: say mine, don't. I'm not. I'm not unless I'm trying
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: to keep my kids a little humble. Here Okay, you
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: don't get my thread yet. You gotta hearn it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: So here we are.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Heather is saying Alexis she did not sleep last night
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: because after Tama's party, she went home and she cried
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: herself to sleep because Emily once said to her in
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the premiere episode, you're like one of my best friends now,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: which Emily please. And then she was mad that at
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Tama's party, Emily kind of like Gabe didn't really speak
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to her, but then also was kind of like getting
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: it to her in terms of, like you do enough talking.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I want to talk now. And then you know, had
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: this starts crying and that she's upset by Emily's actions and.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Again maybe I have a black heart.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I just don't buy these emotions that are happening off
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: camera allegedly, and then to see her cry, I'm like,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you're crying over Emily Simpson.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: I I don't know.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think they're trying so hard to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: me once again, to make us.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Audience believe that we love each other, we are a
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: real friend group, and I just think it's bullshit.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I wonder what you think about this.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I thought when I watched that scene that it really
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: had more to do than with just Emily.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I kind of thought because.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: They're kind of they are kind of poking a lot
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: at Heather right now. This it seems like they've been,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: you know, Heather's had a rough couple episodes, just slightly
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: not like nothing. Maybe Carmela hh, okay, she's been put
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: through the wringer, but Heather's kind of had a little
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: bit of it.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I felt like maybe it's more of that just pent
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: up from having like.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: It seems like everyone's kind of got an issue or
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: something to say about Heather, and that's I kind of
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: thought maybe the tears were coming and she didn't sleep
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: because of Emily. But I also in my mind was thinking,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: you know, when I do know Heather and she is sensitive,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: So I was also thinking, maybe it's just because there
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: was too too many you know things, and.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Just added to it. That was just the that's what
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: made it spills over kind of thing, you know.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I actually received that I received that.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I think because she hasn't been in the hot seat
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: like this. That was like if you've removed Carmela that
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: every episode people had from Gin to camera to Emily,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: they have been calling out Heather because I think they
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: now feel like you are one way behind the scenes
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and you are another on camera.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: So that see, that makes sense to.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Me if I wonder, I just wondered when I was
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: watching it, because I agreed with you.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think she'd really cry.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I know she's sensitive, but I don't think she'd cry
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: only over that even I wouldn't probably even carry over
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: just that. I just think it was because Heather feels like,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: you know, like it's always something with me right now,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: you know, and Heather has had a couple of really
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: good seasons and easy seasons where she's gone.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: So.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm it all started when Jen just started
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: calling her out this season. You know, Jen's the one
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: that kind of threw under the bus a little and said,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you know, you were talking about smack on Tamra, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: now I don't trust you as much.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think because Jen called her out, then Tamra
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: said we are social besties, right and then Emily saying
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to her like, well you did say this about Jen
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and Jen finding out Tamra's party. All of that makes
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: complete sense to me, and that should have been Heather's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: response to it in terms of why is everyone attacking me?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I have done nothing whatever she wants to say. But
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Heather has always had it easy. Heather has has it's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen a season ever besides this one where
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Heather has been called out for how duplicit is she
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: is with these women, And I actually think there's that's
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a fresh up.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: There's a fresher breath.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: No, a breath of breath of fresh air. You usually
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: have to help me. I got you on this one.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I owe you, okay, a breath of fresh Okay, let's
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: get imagine a fresh of breadth air.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck am I saying right now?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: A breath of fresh air that they have been calling
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: her out. I think I find that, honestly to be
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: interesting because it's new.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Well it's new, and for me, I feel like it's
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: actually organic, where some of this stuff, like they're still
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: talking about a handbag and a vibrator. It's like, I
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: feel like that's kind of organic thing. That the women
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: are feeling. So I think that that's the kind of
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: stuff I like to hear and see, not that it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: on Heather or whatever. I just like the more organic
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: stuff than when they're reaching into a bag of tricks
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: trying to pull something out of the hat just to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: make something, you know, work, Because you know, like you
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and I are saying, it's like all of this drama
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that's happening right now is just so it just doesn't
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: seem I don't know if it's authentic or if it
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: just doesn't seem like it's something they'd really still be
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: talking about. Like I just don't know a group of
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: women that would still be talking about it this many
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: days later of getting around each other, you know. So yeah,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: let's see where they go with Heather, because I don't
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: know if they're done or that's the end of it
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: now that she cried, they're going to ease up on
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: her or what.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I'm with you, because even when Emily
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and Tamra are walking and talking, you know, I'm sorry
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Gina and Tamar are walking and talking. You know, Look, Gina,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Gina is trying to explain to Tamra why she's very
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: cautious against Carmela. And one thing that I think you're
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: not I agree with is in real life, Gina and
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Emily are best friends.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Like that's they are. They are best friends.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I could see Gina having you know, a good eye
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: on Carmela based on like what are you trying to do?
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: So she's telling Tamra that.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: She just believes Carmela has a motive in this d
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: or bad giving and giving her something to masturbate with.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: She feels like this isn't normal, and she wonders if
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Carmela is trying to win over Emily by doing this.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: And do you think, Alex is that Gina is just
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: a little jealous that someone wants to be friends with
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: her best friend.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Gosh, this is hard, I think if I'm really thinking
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: about it, I think again, they're pulling at stuff to
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: try to find some kind of drama somewhere, and it's
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: easy to target Carmela because she's the new one and
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: she do bold gestures. But I don't know if I think,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know that if I agree that Gina's jealous
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: of it, I think that I think Emily just happened
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: to be the first person that had a birthday, and
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: they were doing it at a drag show and they
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: all dressed up as old women. So it's all kind
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: of quirky in itself and kind of weird, and it's
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: you know, in itself, and then yet and playing bingo.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Add all those things together, it's just all it's all
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: just a jumble, you know, but it's kind of cool.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: It's fun, and it's fun to watch. So I think that
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: if it would have been anyone's birthday, gins Vicki's, I
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: think Carmela would have given the same gift. I think
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Carmela was literally just trying to be funny.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: You can tell she has a sense of humor, and
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: she does not take things seriously.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: She lets she lets it roll off.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: As far from what I can tell. I mean, we
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: don't know her, but I act like I do. And
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: so I don't know what I think about Gina. If
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: she's jealous, what do you think?
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: I actually agree with you one hundred percent.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's jealous, because the thing is.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: No one can take they've been on this show.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I thought about this last night as I was watching it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like Gina and Emily have been on like I
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: think seven years, which is like kudos to them right
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to last that long, especially when social media. One of
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: them gone after their second season, but they have survived.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I think in seven seasons you see Emily make friendships
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: with other women. I just don't think anybody can come
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: between them. I will agree with you, and I do
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: feel like this is just the way it is this season.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: As we're seeing five episodes in, I think they all
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: collectively said, this is something that we can harp on.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think Gina's jealous. I don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: think she I don't think she's even worried that Emily
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: is going to be thrown for the that's not even
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a real of possibilities. I think Gina saw an opening
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to start from drama, and she is going to use
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: it for her safety net.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: For her job.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: That's what I was kind of thinking. I was kind
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: of like, there's not a lot of true drama. Then
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like, like I said, Carmela is the easy
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: target right now because she's new. She's doing bold things
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: that create stir and create conflict naturally or create I
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: guess it's not conflict, but like create questions.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: So I just think it was an easy and yeah.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: So Vicky has an event and the girl's all there.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Tamar tells Vicky she invited Carmela, which I.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Was like, that's pretty bold.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: You don't usually do that to Vicki because it's like
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: she's not really an easy going kind of girl when
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: it's about that kind of thing.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done that. But Kara was like, yeah,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: well she's coming, so be ready, be ready. Vicki was like,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: oh oh, oh okay, and then Vicky smile.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Oh God.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I love Vicky. I love her back on the screen,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: her smile.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: When she was like, well she's not even supposed to
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: be oh hi, I was like, nape, I love you, Vicky.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I just love you. I text I love her this season.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, you are making me because she doesn't
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: watch the episodes ever, and.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, that's it my pants.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: No no, I just had a long call with her,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: but she's she had didn't see that episode, so I
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: told her what it was about. I go, girl, you
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: are keeping me like laughing and Carlos so much like,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: we are just laughing, ya we.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Love I thought it was hysterical.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I actually laughed out loud when Carmela is greeting Vicky
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and she was like, you know, we already met, and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Vicky corrects her says, we met ish, and then.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: They flap flashed back to the two times that they
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: have already been around each other and met. So it's
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: just that's just Vicky and you know, and Vicky's mine.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know who you are. I can
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: totally see Vicky and know exactly what she's thinking in
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: that moment.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: She's like, we have not sat down and have coffee.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know smack about you. And yeah, we've seen.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Each other at two different work moments, you know, when
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: we're at a bingo party dressed as old women and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the other one we're at the Valentine's Day party.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: But you did meet twice, Vicky.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Mad Is And I think that's why she said that,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: because to your point, they're not conversing off camera, because
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: what we also learned in this episode that Carmela Gina
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: does not have Carmelo's number, which shows you that after
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: five episodes in, you're not trying to get to know
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Carmela off camera. So I think to your point, Vicky,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: mine is sort of like, I don't know you because
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I only see you when we're working.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: And that's what to me is going to be.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: What Gina said last night, watch Happens Live, We're going
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to see more of because Vicki is not letting up
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: on Carmela at all.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: But Carlos, she was a producer, know that, Like when
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: you're a cast member, you are very highly told or
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: discouraged from communicating with the housewives outside of filming. So
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't be so odd that she didn't have Carmela's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: number yet after the reunion have at it.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: You can talk all you want, but during production they.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Highly discourage you discussing, and you can even get a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: slap on the wrist for talking off camera because they
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: want to leave everything organic, which I get it, you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: So it doesn't to me. That didn't make me feel
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: weird that she didn't have Carmela's cell yet because they
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: just met. They met as they were working. They weren't
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: they haven't been done filming yet. Now they are, I'm sure,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: and they've all exchanged numbers, but like you know, I
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: don't know. So, Plus it kind of just seemed very
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: from the beginning like that Gina just didn't take to
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Carmela very well, like VICKI didn't take to Carmela very well,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: you know those two.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I feel like Tamra likes her. I feel like Jin
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: likes her.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those who like her.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I think Shenon likes her because they went and did
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: that little on Q thing.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Shan listen in Shannon's world, she
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: would love for the show to revolve around her, Vickie, Heather,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and she can tolerate Gina and Emily. I think she's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: also like, I'll do my job. I would much rather
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: fill a Carmela than having to deal with Tamera. I
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: think that's her mindset, which is why she is open
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to the.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Idea of a Carmela.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: So Heather tells Emily how she was hurt by her,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and Emily clarifies that she didn't tell her to shut up.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: She just said, you've.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Been talking all night and now she wanted to talk.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: And then Gina tries to interrupt, and Emily said, I
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: don't need you, and Gina took that in terms of
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I don't need you as a friend, I don't need
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: you as a human being, And once again Emily is
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: trying to clarify this point saying I don't need you
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in this conversation right now.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Emily just didn't want two people on her at the
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: same time.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: She doesn't want to be corrected twice, she just was
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: like trying to have the conversation with Heather. And again,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like this was just an easy, an easy
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: argument that looks organic but can cause some drama because
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: now the two best friends are bickering at the dinner
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: table too, you know, so it's all about the dinners.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: And I also felt like, and I hate to be
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: this person. I don't want to be.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I know, listen, honestly, it's not my fault, so like, please,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not Maybe it's just me. I'm not buying anything
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: this season is real. I'm just not buying it that
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Emily Gina Mishap. I thought, was those two leaning in
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: because they don't have anything else leaning into.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I think I think Gina took something that we all
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: know Emily did not mean, and she ran with it
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: for this of drama, like let us argue so that
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: we're giving them something different.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: I just I didn't.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I did not think for a second that Gina was
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: really offended by something so small.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: I just I just did not buy that for a second.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Well, and I know you know your best friend too.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: It's like you know your best friend better than anyone,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: so you know that you know Emily didn't mean it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I don't need you like in life, so.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, your point could be valid. Did you buy it?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was just for
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: the It was like playing it up for the camera
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: to now have two best friends fighting at the dinner table,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: also just to create more drama at dinner.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And that leads me to Gina's argument with Carmela. Gina
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: tells Carmela that she did hear that she told Heather.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: That Emily talks too much.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And then at her birthday party, you know, she brought
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the gift and she felt like, if you feel like
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Emily talks too much, why bring her a gift. And
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: then Carmela's trying to explain herself even when it came
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to like her business, and she's in the hot seat,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: and Gina is really, you know, yelling at her.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Saying, this is my best friend.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Now hold on, baby, you don't want.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Alexis. I literally was like, what am I watching right? Now,
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I just I'm not buying any of this bullshit. I'm
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: just not buying for you. Carlos.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: From what I'm gathering from what you're saying is you
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: thought this dinner was a really absolute fail flop.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Zero on a scale of one I am gathering.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Sending my way, I'm kind of picking it up a
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: little that girls, you did not do a good job
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: at this dinner.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I just I just was, per Carlos King's words.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know what I wish would have happened, honestly,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: and listen, I want to get your thoughts obviously on
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: the Gina and Carmela thing. First of all, shout out
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: to Carmela for hanging in there and for standing up
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: for herself against all these women as a newbie.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: That is not easy.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: If anything, if anything similar to Amanda Francis when when
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: those women were so mean to a Mandam Beverly Hills,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: it made us like Amanda more. Seeing how they're so
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: mean to Carmela and how Carmela is standing up for
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: herself in a very respectful way, it's making us like.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Carmela even more.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: And I will say the one thing that came out
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: of it that I did enjoy. I I'm I'm I
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: love all the girls. I will say this on the record.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: As of now, I'm only interested in seeing Carmela, like
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I don't, I am I am. No one's giving me anything.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: No one's giving me anything. No one's giving me appointment television.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: No one's giving me anything that makes me I can't
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: wait until next week. No one's giving me anything that's
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: allowing me to be like, ooh what what what?
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: What?
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: What?
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: What's the next scene after that?
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: You know, every time Carmela is in her personal story scene,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I'll speak.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: For my sub Alexis, I'm glued. I'm like, oh, what's that?
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Because you don't know where she's bold, you don't know
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: what's coming out of her mouth next. She just we
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: just found out she was arrested and assaulted and has
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: you know, you just don't know what's happening in her
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: And I agree with you, like I I love the
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: fact that what's respectable is that Carmela isn't sitting there
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: like a wallflower and taking the beating when everyone's ganging
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: on her. She's saying things very eloquently instead of just
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: spouting off and acting mad because you get you can
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: actually get people to listen when you're actually saying something
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: that's intelligent and not using fighting words and you're just
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: speaking calmly and she never loses her cool. It's just
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: it's really it's a good job for being a first
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: year rookie for sure, you know, but you are really
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: just I'm gonna just let you run with it because
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: you are. You are not happy. Well, here's the thing, Carlos.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: So last year when we did season nineteen of OC,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: how many episodes did it take? And then Beverly Hills
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: took us toll like eight till you and I were like, oh,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: we're in now, baby, So we're only on five. Maybe
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: it's another slow burn. Maybe this season's going to be
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: a slow burn. Although I did watch the preview for
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: next week. What did you think of that preview? Because
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I usually love the previews show like make you want
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: to watch it?
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the only listen as a as
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a viewer. The only thing I'm remotely interested in seeing
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: with drama is Vig and Carmela.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: I cause I think that.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Well, it's real, that's a real.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I was just about to say, I think it's so
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's a real issue.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: I think it's a real thing.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I think even when Carmela called out Vicky for putting
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: women down and Vicky says, you're not a flipper, you're
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: a developer there and talked about like what her soon
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to be, you know, a husband, he's a developer, and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: she's confused by it. And I really do think Vicky
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: is confused by it. But I think it's also semantics.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: And but but I will say I'm intrigued by that
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: because that, to me is who Vicky is. Vicky is
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: a career woman, and if Vicky can poke holes at
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the story, I.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: Think Vicky is really not believing what Carmela does. And
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: I think Carmela has.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: A real issue with it because I think, based on
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: her being a former playmate model, she already knows that
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: more than likely people think she's an airhead and that
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: she lays on her back for money.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: And I think she's trying to prove the people well.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: That I also have this going on in respect that
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I do this and and I and I'm here for that.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: And I believe Carmela is successful on her own. I don't.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the name of what she's doing
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: is I don't care if it's developer, flipper, toilet cleaner,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the title is. I think she's
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: doing a great job at being successful, you know.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: So that's where I stand.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: No, I I agree with that.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: And so for me, going back to what you said
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: earlier about this episode.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: Being warring, it's the problem.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Notice, hold on, Carlos, let me. I just I just
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: had something.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I want to preface it before you go on your
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: tangent right now, because I think of the one name
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: that we have not mentioned this entire podcast, the one name.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Do you think maybe that has something to do with it?
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Because she's sitting back and not doing.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Much and she we haven't mentioned Tamra one time because
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Tamra is just everybody's friend this season and trying to
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: really change and be the you know, calmer and this
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: and that. But if she wasn't, guess what, we'd be
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: probably liking some stuff. We wouldn't be saying it's boring.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I I want to cry. Listen. I okay, you this
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: is our I feel like we would doing this forever.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: This is our third recap. I'll see her second second.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: No, it's our third.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: The first one was season oh maybe, second, it's only
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: nineteen and twenty, because I was on eighteen.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: What it was?
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I came on your podcast a few times in season
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: eighteen as a guest, not as a co host.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Whatever you call me. I don't know.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, side kicks, baby, you're nob psidekick. So
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I just I remember telling everybody. I literally would call
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: people or I would have dinner and they're like, what
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: are you watching? And I'm like, you guys have to
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: watch OC and They're like, shut the fuck up, are
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: you serious?
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, OC is so good. Like you came
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: back what was it eighteen?
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I told these motherfuckers, I said, eighteen is so good.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Watch it nineteen? So well, seventeen was good.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I think no, because Tamar came back seventeen and that's
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: what we met Jen, So I said, seventeen.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: Good, eighteen good. Nineteen.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Last year people complained about the darkness or whatever, you know,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: but the whole thing was, like Katie and Gretchen, I
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: have to admit you and I before like this is
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: so fucking good, like whatever, well, again.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: It's organic. It was real things that were causing real problems.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, So for the past three years I people know
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: me were like Carlo's favorite housewife is OC, like he
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: he can't stop talking about OC. And then this season,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I think, because it's the twentieth I did expect more,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: and with the return of Vicky, I did expect more.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: And this could be unpopular and it's fine.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit underwhelmed with this season, if
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I'm being honest.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: I know, maybe a little kick into high gear, but.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I know, And that's the thing I was thinking about
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: last night when we were gonna be potting today and
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, you know, it really was boring. I
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: had to, like, I had to keep myself from going
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: to like go get laundry and do this or do
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: that in between you. I was finding it was like
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: and then I would watch the scene and I would
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: kind of start thinking about work tomorrow and things had
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: to do first thing in the morning, and then I'd
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: be back and be like, okay, so and then I
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: had to rewind and watch it again. So I just
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: am hoping that see, you know, like like with RHO
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: at Beverly Hills, it season or let's put it out.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills episode.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Eight turned for you and I And when we got
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: on the pod that morning, we were like it was
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: all back. We were like doing backflips and our chairs
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: and all that. I'm just thinking, it's episode five. I'm
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: trying to be optimistic, clat and glass half full. Let's
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: just wait and see. And do you know is there
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: seventeen episodes? I think I heard somewhere is it seventeen
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: with the reunion because Beverly Hills had twenty one with
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: the Yeah, I'm wondering if so. Then from eight to
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: twenty one, Carlos, you and I were in and it
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: was great.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: So if they have seventeen by eight, that's your halfway through.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that we're halfway through, and they're going
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: to Vegas next in the in the.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: No, and I don't even I'm sorry, but I'm like,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see you put on a costume.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Know, see some the thing is is not okay. I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: don't feel bad anymore, because of course, I'm thinking, like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: in my senecol I just think that been there, done that.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I've seen this all before. I've seen the biggest thing.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I've seen the costumes. I've seen it, and I think,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: what's being shoved out our throats is we are real
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: friends who have fun, and I just think that what
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: we love about these shows is yes, that, but obviously
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: we love real organic drama, conflict resolution, and you hit
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the nail on the head. I think, because Tamra has
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: to be so subdued that this is what happens when
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: you put baby in the corner.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: Wow, that's good, yep, and that's exam Like, look at
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: the one name we didn't bring up till the very
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: end because guess what she's been put in the corner.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: It comes out next season or if she comes out.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: The corner, I'll take her dancing.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: I'll take it all. Let me listen, I need that back.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: But we're going to be optimistic. It's episode five.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: We think, let's crush your fingers, let's be up, let's
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: be let's be optimistic.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, like Alexis said, I think there's seventeen episodes,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: so we have twelve more to go.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: And I heard I.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Heard approximately seventeen or read it somewhere, so I don't know,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: but maybe a little bit.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we have a few more episodes to go.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: But ran John, listen, let us know. In the comments,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: comments on Apple, on Spotify or tweet us, but let
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: us know your thoughts.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you next when when you're looking
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: at all these comments, I'm going to ask you next
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: week when we.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Start what what are they bored with it?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: Two?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Or are they liking it? Because maybe you and I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: are just maybe you and I are just being too
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: critical because we do this for a living.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I will say this. I will say this. I've seen
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: on threads. Okay, I forgot which housewife of OC asked
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the question, maybe Tamera maybe, but someone did ask are
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: you guys? Are you guys enduring season twenty so far?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: And it was it was Oh, the overwhelming response was boring.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: Oh so it's not it's not just.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but said I am going to be optimistic.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, but listen, let us know your thoughts on the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: episode rain Drops. Let us have the Spotify comments, and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: like Alexis said, come next week, I am going to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: read Alexis the comments. So you have an opportunity, brain
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Drops to get your name shout it out.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do three.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Do at least one from each the threat the change
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: you just said, at at least three comments, so one
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: of from each and let's just see what the you're
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: going to see the overall consensus anyway, but like, yeah,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: to read three will be fun.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Love to hear three of the best ones.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm actually into that.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: So we'll do that. So Alexis, I will see you
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: next week. Keep your faith beautiful lifted.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: No, we're no, we're faithlifts for a decade.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: We're good. You're good, You're good. All right. I love you, baby, though.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: I have a good weekend, guys. Bye bye bye.
• 1:03:23
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• 1:03:28
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