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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Bongina Report Early Edition. Today
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Speaker 1: we have another special interview at the end of the show.
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Speaker 1: This one is with Cara Frederick, who is, she serves
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Speaker 1: as a special assistant to the president and she's a
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Speaker 1: senior policy advisor. She works with Stephen Miller a lot
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Speaker 1: as well. Her focus is primarily on national security. So
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Speaker 1: we had a really interesting discussion about illegal immigration, about
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Speaker 1: the deportation agenda, about the Supreme Court, and the Trump
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Speaker 1: admin's plan to take on Marxism in the university system.
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Speaker 1: So a really fascinating interview with her. I hope you
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Speaker 1: guys will stay tuned for that. But first, we have
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Speaker 1: a lot of headlines to get to this morning. We're
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Speaker 1: going to cover the Trump admin fighting Chinese influence in
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Speaker 1: the university system. Amazon backing off of its tariffs cost
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Speaker 1: stunt after Carolyn Leavitt put them to shame. ABC's deep
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Speaker 1: concern that America is is not popular enough with other countries,
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Speaker 1: Trump trolling Gretchen Whitmer with praise and a hug, Michelle
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Speaker 1: Obama claiming that her daughters are at risk of racial discrimination,
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Speaker 1: and polling showing that the Canadian elderly appear to be,
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Speaker 1: for some reason, absolutely terrified of President Trump. All this
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Speaker 1: on Bongina Report, early edition. Greek and Latin give unmediated
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Speaker 1: access to the unchanging hardwood floor of our civilization and
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Speaker 1: the cold realism of the principles on which it was built.
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Speaker 1: That line is from Alex Petka's essay, Eating Harvard's Lunch.
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Speaker 1: That's the title of the essay. It was in American Mind.
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Speaker 1: And it sums up a deeper truth. Harvard's Latin motto, Veritas,
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Speaker 1: or truth, is a relic of a once-rich civilizational tradition
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Speaker 1: rooted in the Greek and Roman classics. And these languages,
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Speaker 1: intertwined with Christianity and a shared cultural foundation, gave generations
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Speaker 1: of students not just intellectual roots, but a moral and
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Speaker 1: spiritual compass. Today, that tradition has been gutted.
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Speaker 2: It's been gutted.
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Speaker 1: The classics are no longer studied as living disciplines, but
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Speaker 1: they're treated like sterile academic artifacts. And in their place,
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Speaker 1: their universities have embraced the bureaucratic religion of DEI, an
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Speaker 1: ideology that dismantles every traditional institution under the pretense of openness,
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Speaker 1: leaving students culturally adrift.
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Speaker 2: And intellectually disarmed.
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Speaker 1: We talk about this erosion often on the show, but
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Speaker 1: what's actually less discussed is the vacuum that it creates
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Speaker 1: on how foreign powers, especially the Chinese Communist Party, are
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Speaker 1: exploiting the hole that has been left in our university system.
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Speaker 1: The CCP has poured billions of dollars into American universities,
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Speaker 1: including Harvard, using financial leverage to influence research priorities, suppress
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Speaker 1: politically inconvenient truths like the COVID lab leak theory, and
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Speaker 1: shape academic output to its strategic advantage. Harvard, once a
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Speaker 1: pillar of Western intellectual tradition, now functions as a compromised vessel,
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Speaker 1: its autonomy eroded by progressive orthodoxy and foreign capital alike.
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Speaker 1: And while I've been critical of certain Trump admin measures,
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Speaker 1: like the attempt to ban certain student groups on campus,
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Speaker 1: particularly pro-Palestine student groups, the admins' use of federal investigations
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Speaker 1: Foreign gift disclosure enforcement and funding threats to push universities
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Speaker 1: like Harvard to sever ties with China is a great thing,
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Speaker 1: an essential thing. And by the way, the admin could
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Speaker 1: go even further because these schools, subsidized by the way
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Speaker 1: by the American taxpayers, should prioritize the education and advancement
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Speaker 1: of U.S. students, not foreign nationals from adversarial regimes. The
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Speaker 1: CCP has a documented history of of using academic exchange
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Speaker 1: programs to embed intelligence assets and harvest sensitive research, especially
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Speaker 1: in STEM fields vital to national security, elite U.S. schools
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Speaker 1: are displacing deserving Americans and directly threatening our sovereignty, technological edge,
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Speaker 1: and intellectual property. Rescuing the American mind means rejecting both
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Speaker 1: Marxist ideological capture and foreign subversion, especially from the CCP.
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Speaker 1: And this starts with our academic institutions. But for some reason,
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Speaker 1: all our institutions seem to be hyper-focused on appeasing China.
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Speaker 1: The priority is not the United States. And when you
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Speaker 1: consider the way that, for example, the taxpayers subsidize the
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Speaker 1: American education system, it becomes very frustrating. It becomes, frankly,
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Speaker 1: a deep betrayal of And nowhere is this more clear, actually,
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Speaker 1: than corporate America. We talked about academia, but just as
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Speaker 1: captured by the CCP is corporate America. Yesterday, Carolyn Leavitt
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Speaker 1: had an incredible little spiel on Amazon. Amazon was apparently
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Speaker 1: planning to add tariff costs by the price of their products,
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Speaker 1: so to put pressure on the Trump bad men and
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Speaker 1: prove to them how terrible Trump's tariffs are for prices
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Speaker 1: in America. Here is Carolyn Levitt responding to this former plan. Hi, Mr. Secretary.
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Speaker 3: So it was reported this morning that Amazon will soon
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Speaker 3: display a little number next to the price of each
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Speaker 3: product that shows how much the Trump tariffs are adding
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Speaker 3: to the cost of each product. So isn't that a
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Speaker 3: perfect crystal clear demonstration that it's the American consumer and
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Speaker 3: not China who is going to have to pay for
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Speaker 3: these policies?
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Speaker 4: I will take this since I just got off the
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Speaker 4: phone with the president about Amazon's announcement. This is a
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Speaker 4: hostile and political act by Amazon. Why didn't Amazon do
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Speaker 4: this when the Biden administration hiked inflation to the highest.
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Speaker 5: Level in 40 years?
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Speaker 4: And I would also add that it's not a surprise
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Speaker 4: because as Reuters recently wrote, Amazon has partnered with a
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Speaker 4: Chinese propaganda arm. So this is another reason why Americans
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Speaker 4: should buy American. It's another reason why we are on
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Speaker 4: shoring critical supply chains here at home to shore up
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Speaker 4: our own critical supply chain and boost our own manufacturing case.
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Speaker 1: So apparently Amazon was briefly considering displaying import charges on
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Speaker 1: product listings to suggest that Trump's tariffs were raising prices.
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Speaker 1: But after backlash and that warning from Carolyn Leavitt at
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Speaker 1: the White House, the company backed off, saying that the
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Speaker 1: idea was never officially approved. But this is bigger than
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Speaker 1: just the tariff cost stunt from Amazon. Amazon has this
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Speaker 1: tendency to hide the country of origin for products, many
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Speaker 1: of which are made in China. And the practice enables
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Speaker 1: slave labor, intellectual property theft, and harms American workers and consumers.
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Speaker 1: So what's happened is that the moment Trump policies began
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Speaker 1: to reassert American manufacturing and level the playing field for
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Speaker 1: American manufacturers through tariffs, Amazon was allegedly considering warning consumers
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Speaker 1: that their prices are going up because America is protecting
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Speaker 1: itself from CCP exploitation. That's not neutrality. That's an open
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Speaker 1: threat from a global retailer whose shelves are stuffed with
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Speaker 1: products made in Chinese factories, many linked to slave labor
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Speaker 1: and IP theft. And instead of blaming American policy, Amazon
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Speaker 1: should be explaining why it conceals the country of origin
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Speaker 1: for so many of its goods, especially when the manufacturing
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Speaker 1: trail leads back to internment camps and forced labor in
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Speaker 1: northwestern China where the Uyghurs live. Massive human rights abuse
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Speaker 1: is happening here. And Amazon's response is, again, just to
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Speaker 1: attack the Trump admin and the American people's assertion of
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Speaker 1: their ability to manufacture products here at home and actually
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Speaker 1: compete in a fair way instead of with slave labor.
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Speaker 1: It's really kind of disgusting. We have to confront the
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Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party's deep and dangerous influence on American life
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Speaker 1: in our universities and supply chains. China has exploited our
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Speaker 1: openness while hollowing out our institutions. What the admin is
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Speaker 1: doing is long overdue course correction, one that treats the
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Speaker 1: CCP not as a trade partner, but as a hostile
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Speaker 1: power that has to be checked, exposed, and economically disentangled
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Speaker 1: from every corner of American life. And I'm all here
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Speaker 1: for it. And on that note, let's take a quick break.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the news of the
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Speaker 1: day after Mikey just grabs that from me. Thank you, Mikey.
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Speaker 1: So yesterday, President Trump brutally roasted ABC journalist Terry Morin.
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Speaker 1: And he suggested that our international reputation, Terry did, is
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Speaker 1: being damaged by President Trump. President Trump had an amazing comeback.
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Speaker 1: I want you guys to take a listen to this.
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Speaker 1: It's very relevant to our discussion on China and tariffs
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Speaker 1: and foreign influence in our institutions in general.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen.
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Speaker 5: Do you think the reputation of the United States... has
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Speaker 5: gone down under your presidency?
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Speaker 6: No, I think it's gone way up, and I think
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Speaker 6: we're a respected country again. We were left out all
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Speaker 6: over the world. We had a president that couldn't walk
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Speaker 6: up a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight
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Speaker 6: of stairs, couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We
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Speaker 6: had a president that was grossly incompetent. You knew it,
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Speaker 6: I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
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Speaker 6: didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 7: Thank you.
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Speaker 6: And by the way, ABC is one of the worst,
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Speaker 6: I have to be honest with you.
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Speaker 1: Can we go back and play the beginning of that
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Speaker 1: one more time, Mikey?
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Speaker 5: If we could.
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Speaker 6: Do you think the reputation of the United States.
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Speaker 5: Has gone down under your presidency.
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Speaker 6: No, I think it's gone way up, and I think
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Speaker 6: we're a respected country again.
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Speaker 5: All right, we'll go with that.
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Speaker 1: So suggesting that the reputation of the United States has
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Speaker 1: gone down, and of course, Trump is, again, fighting for
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Speaker 1: America first policies, fighting for American manufacturing.
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Speaker 2: With these tariffs.
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Speaker 1: ABC's suggestion is that this is really bad. It's making
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Speaker 1: us look bad to the rest of the world. Trump's right.
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Speaker 1: ABC is the worst. But here's what I'll say about
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Speaker 1: our reputation. Putting America first is not going to be
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Speaker 1: popular in China. It's not going to be popular in
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Speaker 1: the UK.
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Speaker 2: It's not going to be popular in Germany.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to be popular in Madagascar or wherever.
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Speaker 2: It's not going to be popular.
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Speaker 1: The rest of the world doesn't want to hear that
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Speaker 1: America is prioritizing America because most of the world has
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Speaker 1: been exploiting America. The EU would be toast without US
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Speaker 1: military defense support. Popularity is not everything. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: as President Trump is celebrating his first 100 days, Democrat-controlled
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Speaker 1: media headlines are echoing that Trump's polling is at a
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Speaker 1: record low. And I saw some of you guys commenting
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Speaker 1: on this. Somebody said, I haven't been asked to respond
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Speaker 1: to any kind of poll or survey.
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Speaker 2: And I haven't either.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure exactly where all this polling
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Speaker 1: is coming from. But this is the narrative right now,
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Speaker 1: that Trump is deeply unpopular. And he's also apparently deeply
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Speaker 1: unpopular with foreign powers, which I don't really necessarily detest that.
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Speaker 1: It's probably partly true. But Brianna Lyman in The Federalist
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Speaker 1: had a great response to this narrative. She wrote that,
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Speaker 1: Poles don't fix nations, leaders do. Tariffs, immigration enforcement, federal
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Speaker 1: workforce reforms are framed, are essential to restoring American sovereignty
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Speaker 1: and cultural cohesion in this country. And real leadership is
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Speaker 1: means choosing what's right over what is popular. And Trump
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Speaker 1: is doing that right now. That is what a president
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Speaker 1: should be doing. That is what good leaders do. And
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Speaker 1: maybe these polls are wrong. We don't trust polls here.
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Speaker 1: Who knows about the polling? But if they are true,
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Speaker 1: I kind of don't care. I mean, that's what Brianna
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Speaker 1: was saying. And I think she's right.
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Speaker 2: We have to take our country back.
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Speaker 1: And if it's unpopular amongst certain Americans or even the
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Speaker 1: most Americans or or globally with foreign powers, I really
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Speaker 1: don't care.
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Speaker 2: We have to start putting this country first.
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Speaker 1: And good leaders, strong leaders don't just do what's going
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Speaker 1: to make them popular. They do what's right. And we're
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Speaker 1: doing what's right right now. And the Trump admin's deportation agenda,
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Speaker 1: closing the border, is such a massive accomplishment that is
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Speaker 1: getting no recognition from the corporate media in these first
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Speaker 1: 100 days. And in fact, actually, they've responded to this
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Speaker 1: success story from the Trump admin by slamming the administration
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Speaker 1: for deporting MS-13 gang members. I mean, the absurdity of
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Speaker 1: it all, the priorities of these people. And again, I
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Speaker 1: think the polls are suspect because I can't imagine that
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Speaker 1: the American people are unhappy with the Trump admin deporting
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Speaker 1: MS-13 gang members. Trump is such a free thinker. He's
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Speaker 1: so brave that he will even do things that are
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Speaker 1: unpopular with the political right. Here he was yesterday praising
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Speaker 1: Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer. I've got a lot to say
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Speaker 1: about this and this Trump strategy.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen.
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Speaker 6: Governor Gretchen Whitmer for bringing it also to our attention
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Speaker 6: very strongly.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 6: And, you know, I'm not supposed to do that. She's
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Speaker 6: a Democrat. They say, don't do that. Don't have her here.
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Speaker 6: I said, no, she's going to be here. She's done
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Speaker 6: a very good job, frankly. And she's she was very
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Speaker 6: much involved with with the Republicans. They worked together on
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Speaker 6: saving it. And it was not easy. So I want
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Speaker 6: to thank you very much, Gretchen.
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Speaker 5: Good job.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: OK, so what is all this about? So President Trump
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Speaker 1: announced yesterday a new fighter jet mission for an Air
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Speaker 1: National Guard base in Michigan. And when he traveled to
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Speaker 1: Michigan for this speech slash announcement, he actually greeted Gretchen
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Speaker 1: Whitmer on the tarmac with a hug. Take a look
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Speaker 1: at this. So he's walking down the stairs. And you
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Speaker 1: see Gretchen. She's waiting for him. And she puts out
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Speaker 1: her hand. And he kind of like pulls her in
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Speaker 1: for a little half hug. That's how I would describe that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys think. That looks like
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Speaker 1: kind of an embrace to me. So again, it looks like,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a full hug, like they're not like
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Speaker 1: the chests aren't touching or anything, but it was kind
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Speaker 1: of like a half embrace. And so Gretchen was very
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Speaker 1: uncomfortable with this whole situation. And she emphatically, she just
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Speaker 1: denied to the AP that this hug actually took place.
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Speaker 2: This is too funny.
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Speaker 1: So they asked her essentially, did you hug President Trump?
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Speaker 1: And she said, quote, I was the first one he greeted.
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Speaker 1: We shook hands and he leaned in to tell me,
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Speaker 1: you know, congratulations. And that I, that was a big,
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Speaker 1: and that I was a big reason that we were
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Speaker 1: making an announcement today. And I was grateful for that.
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Speaker 1: So Gretchen says, no, no, no, it was just a handshake.
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Speaker 1: It was nothing more than that. And clearly this was,
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Speaker 1: this was a hug. This was more than a handshake,
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Speaker 1: you guys. Now, if you'll remember earlier this month, Gretchen
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Speaker 1: Whitmer actually hid her face behind a folder of at
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Speaker 1: an event in the Oval Office so the media couldn't
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Speaker 1: take pictures of her with Trump. Do we have that photo, Mikey?
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Speaker 1: You can throw it. I mean, it's cartoonish. She's got
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Speaker 1: her whole face covered. And Trump has responded to Gretchen's
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Speaker 1: embarrassment by literally making her his best friend. That's what
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Speaker 1: he's done, right? It's like the ultimate troll. He's hugging her.
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Speaker 1: He's praising her. And he actually invited her on stage
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Speaker 1: to speak yesterday. Here she was at the podium.
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Speaker 8: Well, I hadn't planned to speak, but on behalf of
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Speaker 8: all the military men and women who serve our country
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Speaker 8: and serve so honorably on behalf of the state of Michigan,
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Speaker 8: I am really damn happy we're here to celebrate this
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Speaker 8: recapitalization at Selfridge. It's crucial for the Michigan economy. It's
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Speaker 8: crucial for the men and women here, for our homeland
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Speaker 8: security and our future.
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Speaker 9: So thank you.
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Speaker 8: I am so, so grateful that this announcement was made today,
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Speaker 8: and I appreciate all the work. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: So what makes this so funny and so brilliant is
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Speaker 1: that it's a strategy. Trump knows that Gretchen Whitmer wants
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with him. Her core base hates President Trump,
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Speaker 1: and she literally hid behind a folder to avoid being
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Speaker 1: photographed with him. So what does Trump do? He makes
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Speaker 1: her out to be his best friend. He's hugging her.
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Speaker 1: He's heaping praises on her, crediting her for this fighter
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Speaker 1: jet announcement. And then he invites her to speak at
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Speaker 1: the event like they're this dynamic duo. It is not
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Speaker 1: just trolling, it's psychological warfare, political warfare wrapped up in
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Speaker 1: a grin. The more warmth that he shows, the more
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Speaker 1: uncomfortable that she gets. And I hate to say it, guys,
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Speaker 1: but the Gretchen-Trump crossover is an example of exactly what
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Speaker 1: every Democrat with national ambitions needs to be doing. And
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Speaker 1: Gretchen can't see it right now. She's clearly embarrassed. She
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Speaker 1: doesn't want anything to do with this. But if she
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Speaker 1: embraced it, it's actually an amazing strategy. Michigan was once
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Speaker 1: a cornerstone of the Democrats' blue wall. It went red
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Speaker 1: in 2024 by more than 80,000 votes. Whether Gretchen wants
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Speaker 1: to admit it or not, having a bipartisan appeal is
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Speaker 1: good for her politically. The Trump is Hitler routine has
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Speaker 1: worn thin with swing state voters who just handed President
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Speaker 1: Trump a second term. He won the popular vote. Instead
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Speaker 1: of theatrics and folder-hiding, Democrats need to grapple with the
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Speaker 1: political reality. Trump is popular, especially in states that they
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Speaker 1: used to win. And playing the resistance martyr is not
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Speaker 1: going to work. It's failed to work time and time again.
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Speaker 1: So Whitmer getting caught in the Trump half-hug may actually
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Speaker 1: be the best thing that's ever happened for her. And
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of Democrats would do well to
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Speaker 1: embrace the common sense policies of the political right. You
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Speaker 1: don't have to be a full-on MAGA Republican, but you
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Speaker 1: have to be reasonable and bipartisan and willing to work
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Speaker 1: with others and not make yourself out to be a lunatic.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what that slimeball in California is doing.
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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom with his podcast. He's a total liar.
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Speaker 2: He's a fake. He's a fraud.
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Speaker 1: But it's a real strategy, and it probably is going
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Speaker 1: to work out for him. So something to think about.
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Speaker 1: And I want to talk about the Democratic Party a
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Speaker 1: little more because There are a lot of things that
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Speaker 1: are simply not working for them. And they cannot seem to,
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Speaker 1: for some reason, let go of. And one of them
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Speaker 1: is race Marxism. This has been a huge part of
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party for a long time, especially ramped up
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Speaker 1: to 100 with the election of Barack Obama and the
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Speaker 1: poised influence that he has had on our culture and
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Speaker 1: his party since he was elected. And of course, somebody
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Speaker 1: who can't let go of it is his wife, Michelle Obama.
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Speaker 1: During her podcast, she has this new podcast. I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's very successful, but she's doing it anyways. She
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Speaker 1: was fear-mongering about race in America. And she actually ended
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Speaker 1: up saying that she fears for her own daughters facing
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Speaker 1: discrimination in America and likens this to the plight of
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Speaker 1: illegal migrants. Take a listen to this, you guys. This
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Speaker 1: is just absurd. And again, not a winning strategy.
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Speaker 9: Very early on that that no one was going to
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Speaker 9: see beyond the color of our skin at an early age.
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Speaker 9: And that could get you in trouble. Well, in this
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Speaker 9: current climate for me, it's, you know, what's happening to immigrants.
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Speaker 9: So it's not the fear for myself anymore. I drive
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Speaker 9: around in a four-car motorcade with a police escort. I'm
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Speaker 9: Michelle Obama. I do still worry about my daughters in
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Speaker 9: the world, even though they are somewhat recognizable. So my
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Speaker 9: fears are for what I know is happening out there
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Speaker 9: in streets all over the city. And now that we
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Speaker 9: have leadership that is sort of indiscriminately determining who belongs
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Speaker 9: and who doesn't, and we know that those decisions aren't
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Speaker 9: being made with courts and with due process and that
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Speaker 9: it's being made like this cop that pulled my brother
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Speaker 9: over when he was 12. You don't look like somebody
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Speaker 9: that belongs You know, I can determine just by looking
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Speaker 9: at you that you're, you know, you're a good person
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Speaker 9: or you're not a good person. And knowing that there's
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Speaker 9: so much bias and so much racism and so much
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Speaker 9: ignorance that fuels those kind of choices, I worry for
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Speaker 9: people of color all over this country. And I don't
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Speaker 9: know that we will have the advocates to protect everybody.
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Speaker 9: And that makes me, that frightens me. It keeps me
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Speaker 9: up at night.
21:54
Speaker 1: Okay. By the way, this is the On Purpose podcast,
21:57
Speaker 1: not Michelle Obama's podcast with her brother, but she's a
22:00
Speaker 1: guest on it. I don't know how many times I
22:03
Speaker 1: have to say this. America is not a racist country.
22:06
Speaker 1: You aren't in danger because of your skin tone. And
22:09
Speaker 1: the only systemic and interpersonal racism that actually exists at
22:12
Speaker 1: any kind of observable scale in this country is actually
22:15
Speaker 1: against white people. So all of this fear mongering about
22:20
Speaker 1: racism in America against black and brown people, just shut it.
22:23
Speaker 2: Just stop. Nobody buys it anymore. I'm sorry, no.
22:28
Speaker 1: People are not being deported at random because of their
22:31
Speaker 1: skin color. That's another thing to talk about here. The
22:33
Speaker 1: immigration stuff is wild. She's likening it to the civil
22:37
Speaker 1: rights movement or something. People are being deported because they're illegals.
22:41
Speaker 1: People who have no right to be in this country
22:43
Speaker 1: are being forced to leave, and rightfully so. I wish
22:47
Speaker 1: it were more expansive. I wish we were deporting everyone
22:50
Speaker 1: here illegally. But right now, we're just going after the criminals.
22:54
Speaker 1: And Michelle Obama, like I said, she's trying to turn
22:56
Speaker 1: this into some sort of civil rights issue. Michelle Obama's
22:59
Speaker 1: going to give an, I have a dream that all
23:02
Speaker 1: MS-13 gang members have a right to stay in this
23:04
Speaker 1: country and terrorize American people speech.
23:06
Speaker 2: It's insane.
23:07
Speaker 1: This is not the same thing.
23:09
Speaker 2: It's absurd.
23:10
Speaker 1: And it's going to not win over any Americans. People
23:15
Speaker 1: with two brain cells can figure out that civil rights
23:19
Speaker 1: movement and black America discrimination is not the same as
23:22
Speaker 1: getting rid of illegals. And by the way, there is
23:25
Speaker 1: no massive systemic racism happening anymore. If you want to
23:28
Speaker 1: talk about it before the civil rights movement, during slavery era, okay, fine.
23:35
Speaker 1: But this is not the reality of America at this time.
23:39
Speaker 1: And it certainly has nothing to do with getting rid
23:41
Speaker 1: of illegal criminal gang members who are in this country.
23:45
Speaker 2: There's nothing to do with that.
23:48
Speaker 1: Did you guys hear that Democrats are actually trying to
23:51
Speaker 1: get rid of David Hogg as the DNC vice chair?
23:54
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying with Democrats. They are their
23:57
Speaker 1: own worst enemy. Now, David Hogg has problems. The kid
24:01
Speaker 1: is just a walking nightmare. I mean, he's super annoying.
24:04
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to garner a lot of
24:06
Speaker 1: support from a ton of people. He's not a unifying
24:07
Speaker 1: figure in any way. He's a radical leftist. Like I said,
24:10
Speaker 1: there's no bipartisanship from David Hogg. He's crazy. But he
24:14
Speaker 1: is making some big changes at the DNC by vowing
24:18
Speaker 1: to primary ineffectual sitting Democrat congressman and women.
24:23
Speaker 2: This caused a big uproar in the Democratic Party.
24:25
Speaker 1: And so now a Native American DNC member who lost
24:31
Speaker 1: the vice chair race now wants a new election citing
24:36
Speaker 1: fairness and gender diversity rules. So this woman is calling
24:40
Speaker 1: for the DNC to vacate the vice chair positions because
24:43
Speaker 1: the previous one was fatally flawed and violated the DNC's
24:47
Speaker 1: charter by discriminating against three women of color candidates. And
24:51
Speaker 1: the DNC is actually going along with this plan to
24:53
Speaker 1: meet virtually on May 12th and consider this challenge. They're
24:57
Speaker 1: actually taking it seriously. What I'm trying to tell you
25:00
Speaker 1: guys is the left eats its own. Democrats are their
25:05
Speaker 1: own worst enemy. They cannot help themselves. This is really
25:09
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing for the political right. But wow, it
25:12
Speaker 1: makes you think how incompetent these people are. Not just incompetent,
25:17
Speaker 1: but how poisonous their own ideology is to their own
25:19
Speaker 1: political advancement. Race Marxism is not a unifying concept.
25:23
Speaker 2: No one wants it.
25:24
Speaker 1: No one cares for it. It's a major reason why
25:27
Speaker 1: Democrats are bleeding with working class Americans who, in previous generations,
25:32
Speaker 1: were solid Democrat voters. Union Democrats, former Union Democrats, are
25:38
Speaker 1: now voting for President Trump. They love the tariffs. They
25:41
Speaker 1: love America first. Their values align more with him than
25:45
Speaker 1: with the craziness that's coming out of the ivory towers.
25:49
Speaker 1: And again, Democrats are their own worst enemy. All right,
25:51
Speaker 1: I want to get to Canada and what is happening
25:55
Speaker 1: politically there with old people and also what's happening with
25:59
Speaker 1: old people in our country.
26:00
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it.
26:01
Speaker 1: So there's some new polling that's come out, and it's
26:03
Speaker 1: showing that 60 and up Canadians' number one issue in
26:10
Speaker 1: this last election is dealing with President Trump. And their
26:16
Speaker 1: lowest issues were helping make housing more affordable and making
26:20
Speaker 1: Canada a better place. Dealing with Trump, most important thing
26:25
Speaker 1: to people who are 60 and over in Canada. And
26:29
Speaker 1: by the way, we have something kind of similar happening
26:32
Speaker 1: here in the United States. In April, a real clear
26:36
Speaker 1: poll found that Trump's performance approval with Americans is up
26:41
Speaker 1: by literally every demo, including Gen Z. However, let's throw
26:46
Speaker 1: that up, Mikey, if we could. 60 to 69-year-olds are
26:51
Speaker 1: plus 5, but 70 and up is negative 14 points.
26:56
Speaker 1: They are like the most unhappy. Everybody else is like
27:00
Speaker 1: kind of approving of President Trump, and the elderly are deeply,
27:04
Speaker 1: deeply unhappy with him. So what is going on here?
27:08
Speaker 1: The media loves to lump seniors together. But 60-year-olds and
27:12
Speaker 1: 80-year-olds live in entirely different psychological universes. And that's why
27:17
Speaker 1: I think that that Canadian poll that I showed at
27:18
Speaker 1: the beginning would be different if it separated the 60
27:22
Speaker 1: to 70 crowd from the 70 and up crowd. The
27:25
Speaker 1: younger boomers still remember what it was like to hustle
27:30
Speaker 1: and raise kids during the Reagan years, to scrape through
27:32
Speaker 1: economic downturns. The 70 and up crowd, I think many
27:36
Speaker 1: of them were already retired when 9-11 happened. Their worldview
27:39
Speaker 1: was shaped by Cold War liberalism and Walter Cronkite and
27:42
Speaker 1: a steady diet of institutions that they still bafflingly trust.
27:47
Speaker 1: So it makes sense that some 70-somethings in both Canada
27:50
Speaker 1: and the U.S. see Trump, not inflation, housing, or immigration,
27:54
Speaker 1: as the problem. They are clinging to a fading post-war
27:58
Speaker 1: order that worked well for them but has failed everyone else.
28:03
Speaker 1: Right-wing populism isn't for the fossilized elite. It is for
28:07
Speaker 1: the disillusioned future, not the comfortable past. It's raw, energetic, digital,
28:13
Speaker 1: and often very rebellious. And that scares the geriatric class
28:18
Speaker 1: who'd rather shuffle quietly into a technocratic twilight than confront
28:22
Speaker 1: the fact that the empire they benefited from is collapsing
28:26
Speaker 1: and young people are done playing by its rules. We've
28:28
Speaker 1: had a broken education system, unaffordable housing market, total offshoring
28:33
Speaker 1: of labor for way too long. Millennials are the first
28:36
Speaker 1: generation to be poorer than their parents. And we know
28:39
Speaker 1: it wasn't an accident. They have been sold worthless degrees,
28:44
Speaker 1: locked out of the housing market, told by smug elites
28:47
Speaker 1: to learn to code while they shipped our industrial base
28:51
Speaker 1: to China and hollowed out our towns. This movement is
28:53
Speaker 1: rising because it throws the old liberal order playbook in
28:56
Speaker 1: the trash where it belongs. We're done pretending that unfair
29:00
Speaker 1: trade is somehow benefiting of the American people. It has
29:05
Speaker 1: capsized us. Trump's tariffs aren't just policy. They are, I've
29:08
Speaker 1: said it before, a declaration of independence. They say we're
29:11
Speaker 1: bringing back jobs and pride and self-sufficiency. Right-wing populism understands
29:16
Speaker 1: what the very elderly apparently do not, that the American
29:20
Speaker 1: dream isn't over.
29:21
Speaker 2: It was stolen.
29:22
Speaker 1: And we're taking it back with steel and energy and
29:25
Speaker 1: faith and families. The future is not globalist. It is rooted.
29:27
Speaker 6: It is real.
29:28
Speaker 7: It is ours.
29:30
Speaker 1: And by the way, to these, to these, polls from Canada.
29:33
Speaker 1: In the backdrop of all this, Mark Carney, as many
29:36
Speaker 1: of you probably know, pulled off a stunning political comeback
29:40
Speaker 1: this week. And he led Canada's Liberal Party to a
29:42
Speaker 1: fourth consecutive election win despite starting 25 points behind. So
29:48
Speaker 1: while still short of majority with 163 projected seats, Carney
29:52
Speaker 1: is the prime minister after conservative leader Pierre Polyvier conceded.
29:57
Speaker 1: And he, Carney, has sort of distanced himself from Justin
30:02
Speaker 1: Trudeau in the wake of all this and before. And
30:05
Speaker 1: some of his more unpopular progressive policies, he's really leaned
30:08
Speaker 1: into kind of establishment credentials. But anyway, he is very cringe.
30:13
Speaker 1: This guy is such a bizarre individual. And it makes
30:16
Speaker 1: you think, what is happening in Canada? Like, do they
30:18
Speaker 1: even have a future? I'm really concerned for our neighbors
30:22
Speaker 1: to the north, the snow Mexicans, as we call them
30:25
Speaker 1: on this show. And I'm especially concerned after I saw Mark,
30:29
Speaker 1: the prime minister, dancing in celebration of this victory this week.
30:35
Speaker 1: Here he is with his wife. Get ready for some
30:38
Speaker 1: major cringe.
30:55
Speaker 2: This is just so weird. Wait, can we play it?
30:57
Speaker 1: There's one more of just him dancing. It's actually even worse.
31:00
Speaker 5: Take a look at this.
31:05
Speaker 1: Like, it's just a grandpa cringe bad dance. Like, he's
31:09
Speaker 1: wearing some sweatshirt. What's a sweatshirt, Mikey?
31:11
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
31:11
Speaker 1: Is this a sports team?
31:15
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm not Canadian, you guys.
31:19
Speaker 1: All I know is I can pick out cringe when
31:22
Speaker 1: I see it.
31:23
Speaker 2: This is cringe.
31:24
Speaker 5: This is bad.
31:25
Speaker 2: I don't know.
31:26
Speaker 1: This guy, by the way, somebody was saying in the
31:29
Speaker 1: chat that they are over 70 and they love Trump.
31:32
Speaker 1: You guys, if you're in the chat, you're not part
31:34
Speaker 1: of this. But there is some indication from these polls
31:39
Speaker 1: that really older Americans and Canadians have this problem with
31:44
Speaker 1: President Trump, which I think is interesting. If you're in
31:47
Speaker 1: the chat, it doesn't apply to you, clearly.
31:49
Speaker 2: Probably if you have friends.
31:50
Speaker 1: And you're in the chat, it probably doesn't apply to
31:52
Speaker 1: them either because you have like-minded friends. But what I'm
31:55
Speaker 1: going to say about this guy, Mark Carney, is he
31:58
Speaker 1: has been very anti-President Trump. And actually, both Pierre Polyver
32:04
Speaker 1: on the conservative side and the prime minister have been
32:08
Speaker 1: vehemently anti-Trump. Trump is the type of guy where you
32:12
Speaker 1: get more honey rather than vinegar. So I'm not getting
32:14
Speaker 1: more with honey than vinegar.
32:15
Speaker 2: So I'm not really sure what the strategy here is.
32:18
Speaker 1: Canada doesn't have the kind of populist wave that we've
32:22
Speaker 1: seen here in the United States. their right wing has
32:25
Speaker 1: actively rejected it. The right wing in Canada is this
32:28
Speaker 1: kind of sterile opposition that poses no real threat to
32:32
Speaker 1: the liberal establishment. And Mark Carney, a globalist banker with
32:36
Speaker 1: a polished resume, he just walked into power, not by
32:39
Speaker 1: energizing the base, but by coasting on elite consensus. And
32:42
Speaker 1: looming over this all is mass immigration, which Canada has
32:46
Speaker 1: treated as a sort of unquestionable good, a bipartisan project
32:51
Speaker 1: that dilutes political resistance, transforms the electorate, and ensures that
32:56
Speaker 1: no populist Canadian nationalist movement can ever really take hold
33:00
Speaker 1: in the country. So look, guys, what I have to say,
33:03
Speaker 1: I think Canada's toast.
33:04
Speaker 2: I think they're done.
33:06
Speaker 1: Demographically engineered, politically neutered, locked in a permanent managerial regime,
33:11
Speaker 1: and they increasingly have less and less in common with
33:14
Speaker 1: the United States. And this is something that we need
33:16
Speaker 1: to come to terms with for a lot of former
33:18
Speaker 1: strong US allies. I'm not so sure that they're allies anymore.
33:23
Speaker 1: We have to consider this, especially when you look at
33:25
Speaker 1: the way that we've been treated, even by conservative movements
33:28
Speaker 1: in places like Canada. All right, I want to get
33:31
Speaker 1: to this interview that I did with Cara Frederick, who, again,
33:36
Speaker 1: she is the special assistant to the president, senior policy advisor.
33:39
Speaker 1: We had a really interesting discussion. I hope you guys
33:41
Speaker 1: will all stay tuned for this. I will talk to
33:43
Speaker 1: you at the end of this interview. The Supreme Court
33:47
Speaker 1: is restricting Trump's deportation of illegals under the Alien Enemies Act.
33:53
Speaker 1: And first of all, I want to know what's the
33:55
Speaker 1: strategy here. But also, there's been some news last night.
33:58
Speaker 1: We had just revealed from some documentation that ICE is
34:02
Speaker 1: actually giving the detainees their notices in their native language,
34:07
Speaker 1: which the ACLU was saying They're giving it just in English.
34:10
Speaker 1: And so there's this due process limitation. The illegals are confused.
34:15
Speaker 1: Now it turns out that that might not be true.
34:17
Speaker 1: How does this change things? Does it change things? What's
34:19
Speaker 1: the strategy?
34:20
Speaker 5: Well, I think the strategy we know from the other
34:23
Speaker 5: side is to say due process, due process, due process
34:26
Speaker 5: as much as possible. But if you think about it,
34:28
Speaker 5: the first act that many of these illegal immigrants do
34:32
Speaker 5: actually conducted when they got to the United States was
34:35
Speaker 5: to break our laws. That to me, when you say
34:38
Speaker 5: due process, what about due process for every illegal entry, right?
34:43
Speaker 5: Like we didn't have to go through all of the
34:46
Speaker 5: court processes and whatnot to admit every individual in here.
34:49
Speaker 5: So What is this whole due process idea when it
34:53
Speaker 5: comes to potentially bringing murderers, wife beaters, alleged, and terrorists back?
35:01
Speaker 5: Are we going to have a trial for every single one?
35:04
Speaker 5: Some of the estimates are that it would take hundreds
35:06
Speaker 5: of years to get through the trial of every single
35:09
Speaker 5: one when their very first act was to break our laws.
35:13
Speaker 5: So when people say, especially when the left says due process,
35:17
Speaker 5: What happens to the due process of Americans who are
35:21
Speaker 5: footing the bill in large part for a lot of
35:23
Speaker 5: these illegal immigrants? Something that nobody really talks about is
35:27
Speaker 5: the whole remittances aspect. You know, we know that around
35:30
Speaker 5: 63 billion was sent back to Mexico, while over half
35:35
Speaker 5: of a lot of these illegals are actually on some
35:37
Speaker 5: form of remittance. government funded welfare. So it's the taxpayer,
35:42
Speaker 5: the American taxpayer that is really footing the bill for
35:45
Speaker 5: these people. It is the American taxpayer whose sovereignty is eroded.
35:49
Speaker 5: It is the American taxpayer and the American citizen whose
35:52
Speaker 5: security is threatened by people whose, again, first act coming
35:56
Speaker 5: into the United States was to break our laws. So
35:59
Speaker 5: when this due process defense that the left is always
36:02
Speaker 5: trying to amplify, it really, really rings hollow to me.
36:06
Speaker 2: Well, the Supreme Court, too.
36:08
Speaker 1: I mean, they're saying you guys have these limitations on
36:10
Speaker 1: the amount of deportations you can do, at least for
36:11
Speaker 1: the time. And I'm confused by it, frankly, because there
36:17
Speaker 1: was never a push to step in and try to
36:20
Speaker 1: protect the due process of American citizens who were abused
36:22
Speaker 1: by the state for their role in January 6. They
36:25
Speaker 1: were put in solitary confinement. Evidence was hidden from their lawyers.
36:29
Speaker 1: And there was no Supreme Court jump in, let's make
36:32
Speaker 1: sure the due process of American citizens is protected. There
36:34
Speaker 1: has not been a prioritization of the due process or
36:37
Speaker 1: the constitutional rights of American citizens. But suddenly we're going
36:40
Speaker 1: to fall over ourselves for illegal migrants.
36:43
Speaker 5: Exactly. And you hit the nail on the head. And
36:45
Speaker 5: this seems to be a common thread among the left.
36:48
Speaker 5: I remember, I'm a lot older.
36:50
Speaker 2: Than you, so.
36:50
Speaker 5: Not a lot older. When I was in high school,
36:55
Speaker 5: the Twin Towers fell. And then, you know, a lot
36:57
Speaker 5: of people changed their entire lives to go fight in
37:00
Speaker 5: service of what they believed was the projection of American
37:04
Speaker 5: power in the face of that huge attack. And what
37:08
Speaker 5: we saw the left do was scramble to the defense
37:11
Speaker 5: of terrorists like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, KSM. All of the
37:16
Speaker 5: marquee lawyers went to go defend him. All of the
37:19
Speaker 5: marquee lawyers went to go defend the Al-Qaeda terrorists in Guantanamo.
37:25
Speaker 5: And yet, when you have something like January 6th, Where
37:29
Speaker 5: were all those marquee lawyers of the left trying to
37:32
Speaker 5: defend those individuals, as Norm MacDonald said, the ones who
37:36
Speaker 5: were minding the velvet ropes in an orderly fashion in
37:39
Speaker 5: the Capitol? So I think that that is something that
37:43
Speaker 5: I like to say is the left.
37:47
Speaker 5: The American citizen is not top of mind for them,
37:49
Speaker 5: but they never meet a foreign terrorist that they don't
37:52
Speaker 5: seem to like.
37:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.
37:53
Speaker 5: And that is very evidenced by the fact that Trende Aragua,
37:57
Speaker 5: now these are terrorists, re-designated them as foreign terrorist organizations.
38:01
Speaker 8: As you should, yeah.
38:02
Speaker 5: As we should, precisely. They murder Americans, American citizens, and
38:07
Speaker 5: yet the left is just, yes, falling all over themselves
38:10
Speaker 5: to defend these people who, frankly, again, breaking the law
38:15
Speaker 5: once they come into America, and then these hardened criminals
38:19
Speaker 5: are breaking additional laws when they come in here, in
38:22
Speaker 5: many cases targeting children, targeting women, targeting those among us
38:27
Speaker 5: who are the most vulnerable and preying on them, and
38:31
Speaker 5: yet the left has held them up as these bastions
38:35
Speaker 5: of morality or these causes. It defies common sense, and
38:40
Speaker 5: it has been for decades with people on the left, frankly.
38:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have this narrative that it's a Maryland man, right?
38:48
Speaker 2: He's not a real citizen.
38:49
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about what's happening in your department.
38:53
Speaker 1: You work with Stephen Miller, of course, and there's some
38:57
Speaker 1: pushback even among the right that I get you're prioritizing
39:01
Speaker 1: people who have committed crimes. What about this just massive
39:04
Speaker 1: swath of people who have come in under the Biden admin?
39:07
Speaker 1: We don't know who they are. Maybe they haven't committed
39:09
Speaker 1: a crime other than coming into this country illegally, but
39:12
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of Americans who want them gone.
39:14
Speaker 1: I think there was just some recent polling saying, we
39:16
Speaker 1: want everybody gone, the mass majority of Americans, everybody, not
39:19
Speaker 1: just if you've committed a crime.
39:21
Speaker 2: Is there going to be a pivot to also.
39:23
Speaker 1: Start deporting people who are just here illegally, who are
39:27
Speaker 1: devaluing labor in this country? not just those who have
39:31
Speaker 1: murdered or raped or been involved in drug trafficking or
39:33
Speaker 1: human trafficking?
39:34
Speaker 5: You know, I think you have to start one step
39:36
Speaker 5: at a time, and the prioritization of the hardened criminals,
39:40
Speaker 5: the prioritization of people we know to be in these gangs,
39:43
Speaker 5: now terrorist organizations, You gotta take it one day at
39:47
Speaker 5: a time. There's so many to get through at this
39:49
Speaker 5: point that that is the priority. And frankly, we are
39:54
Speaker 5: prioritizing national security. We are prioritizing public security. So I
39:58
Speaker 5: think you start with those individuals. And given the fact
40:02
Speaker 5: that 10 to 12 million have come across the border illegally,
40:06
Speaker 5: and a vast majority of those are from, you know,
40:09
Speaker 5: emptying the jails in Venezuela, then I think you focus
40:14
Speaker 5: on them first, right? Like, how do you eat an elephant?
40:16
Speaker 5: One bite at a time. And then given, I alluded
40:20
Speaker 5: to the whole, you know, the remittances issue, I alluded
40:23
Speaker 5: to the fact that many of The American taxpayers are
40:27
Speaker 5: footing the bill for, you know, the people who are
40:30
Speaker 5: in here and maybe not committing those violent crimes necessarily.
40:34
Speaker 5: So I do believe that needs to be addressed, too.
40:37
Speaker 5: But I think our tack is appropriate in terms of.
40:40
Speaker 5: public safety first.
40:42
Speaker 2: Is there a timeline on that at all?
40:43
Speaker 1: Do you kind of have an idea of when you think, okay,
40:45
Speaker 1: we're going to have the hardened criminals out of here,
40:47
Speaker 1: and then we can actually start to do everybody?
40:50
Speaker 5: Not to my knowledge, but we are every single day,
40:54
Speaker 5: as our boss reminds us, there's seven days in a week. No,
40:58
Speaker 5: we don't take any breaks whatsoever. As you guys have heard,
41:02
Speaker 5: other mechanisms of the government are sleeping on the floor
41:05
Speaker 5: of the Eisenhower Executive Building and whatnot. So We are
41:09
Speaker 5: working 24-7 to make it happen, but we won't declare
41:14
Speaker 5: victory until the job is done.
41:15
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the actual border itself.
41:18
Speaker 1: There has been a push to not just have a
41:22
Speaker 1: physical border wall, but talk of a smart wall, a
41:25
Speaker 1: wall that has ability to kind of surveil people with
41:30
Speaker 1: high technology. And there's a specific company that is investing
41:34
Speaker 1: in this. It's called Ondaril Industries. Is this something that
41:37
Speaker 1: the Trump admin is interested in doing?
41:39
Speaker 5: I think we want to keep all of our options open.
41:42
Speaker 5: We love competition. You know, speaking for myself, I used
41:46
Speaker 5: to work in a big tech company when Palmer Luckey,
41:48
Speaker 5: the head of Vanderbilt, was there. So I'm very familiar
41:50
Speaker 5: with his work. He does great work. And what I
41:53
Speaker 5: really like about that company in particular is they were
41:56
Speaker 5: unabashed when it was not cool to be patriots. But
42:00
Speaker 5: they said, hey, we are Americans. We are going to
42:04
Speaker 5: put our technology in the service of America. one of
42:07
Speaker 5: their early recruiting web pages had an American flag on
42:10
Speaker 5: the background. So you knew what you were getting into
42:13
Speaker 5: if you signed up to work for that company. So
42:15
Speaker 5: I would like to see all the other companies follow suit, right?
42:19
Speaker 5: Let a thousand flowers bloom. And we absolutely, we have
42:22
Speaker 5: the best engineering minds in the world right now. We
42:25
Speaker 5: have the best talent. And then if all of these
42:29
Speaker 5: men and women just devoted themselves to this type of cause,
42:34
Speaker 5: ensuring American sovereignty, deterring our aggressors, I think that that
42:39
Speaker 5: is a great thing. So again, let a thousand flowers
42:42
Speaker 5: bloom and utilizing these technologies. A lot of these companies,
42:46
Speaker 5: these commercial companies in America are at the bleeding edge.
42:49
Speaker 5: So we have to make it easier for them to
42:52
Speaker 5: put those talents and those systems in service of American
42:57
Speaker 5: values and protecting this country and especially the homeland. So
43:00
Speaker 5: so yeah and roll all of them. Let's go Let's
43:04
Speaker 5: let's work with them.
43:05
Speaker 2: But I want a strong border wall.
43:07
Speaker 1: I want border security I have some reservations about a
43:10
Speaker 1: smart wall just because we have something called a constitution-free
43:13
Speaker 1: zone in this country So if you are even on
43:16
Speaker 1: the coastal region, you're on a border You sort of
43:19
Speaker 1: give up your constitutional rights if you're if you fall
43:21
Speaker 1: within these regions and about a third of the country
43:23
Speaker 1: falls within the Constitution free zone So if you have
43:25
Speaker 1: a smart wall and it's surveilling people coming into the country,
43:29
Speaker 1: potentially illegally, you also have a potential for it to
43:32
Speaker 1: infringe on the privacy rights of American citizens. And as
43:37
Speaker 1: we're looking to the future, you see transhumanism, you see
43:40
Speaker 1: mass surveillance technology, even what the Biden admin had been
43:42
Speaker 1: doing with social media companies to surveil people and speech.
43:47
Speaker 2: A smart wall.
43:47
Speaker 1: To me is it sends up red flags. As somebody
43:51
Speaker 1: who would prefer to see a wall of China, a
43:54
Speaker 1: physical wall, which I felt like we were promised by
43:56
Speaker 1: Trump the first term. And I have a lot of
44:00
Speaker 1: concerns about a smart wall. Is that something that you
44:02
Speaker 1: guys have been considering as well?
44:03
Speaker 5: So this is the balance that I think this administration
44:07
Speaker 5: gets so right. And you see that by President Trump
44:10
Speaker 5: nominating and getting confirmed people like Tulsi Gabbard to work
44:17
Speaker 5: as the head of the intelligence community, but somebody with
44:21
Speaker 5: such a cognition of the violation of civil liberties and
44:25
Speaker 5: privacy of individual Americans. So I think this administration is
44:30
Speaker 5: the best, bar none, when it comes to balancing those
44:34
Speaker 5: privacy rights and the idea, the tension that is natural
44:38
Speaker 5: when it comes to national security and the public safety
44:42
Speaker 5: of our citizens. So, you know, everything we do is
44:45
Speaker 5: infused with that cognition. So when you say a smart wall, yeah, you,
44:50
Speaker 5: you have to be very careful. That's why there are
44:52
Speaker 5: technical ways to basically prevent the abuse of these technologies.
44:56
Speaker 5: There are also policy avenues to prevent the abuse of
44:59
Speaker 5: these technologies. Um, but you can, you can build in
45:02
Speaker 5: a lot of the stuff like, um, take it information silos, right?
45:06
Speaker 5: So to prevent the interoperability, which helps centralize a system
45:10
Speaker 5: and then people can be flagged like the weirds in China,
45:12
Speaker 5: they use technology to oppress their people. So because we
45:16
Speaker 5: have a constitution in America and we're very, very cognizant
45:20
Speaker 5: of the, you know, all of the rights of America
45:22
Speaker 5: in the fourth amendment, especially in this case, I think
45:25
Speaker 5: that this is the best crop of people to deal
45:28
Speaker 5: with those problems and to really understand that tension and
45:32
Speaker 5: make sure that they are prioritizing the right things, like
45:36
Speaker 5: the national security and public safety of each individual American
45:39
Speaker 5: citizen with privacy rights in mind. Yeah, there's no better
45:44
Speaker 5: team to do it, really.
45:45
Speaker 1: Well, and on that note, it's not just potentially a
45:48
Speaker 1: smart wall, but there are questions about companies like Palantir,
45:51
Speaker 1: which will synthesize mass amounts of information not necessarily specific
45:56
Speaker 1: to you, Cara, or to me, but large groupings and say,
45:59
Speaker 1: this person is potentially, these groups of people are potentially
46:04
Speaker 1: going to commit a certain crime or they're extremists. And
46:07
Speaker 1: it's a way to sort of figure out if we
46:10
Speaker 1: have threats in the homeland among our own people. And
46:13
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of concerns about this potentially targeting
46:16
Speaker 1: people for political speech, that it's a demonization. It's saying
46:20
Speaker 1: that If you believe a certain thing or you say
46:22
Speaker 1: a certain thing, then you're guilty of pre-crime, which it
46:25
Speaker 1: feels very Orwellian.
46:26
Speaker 2: It feels very dystopian.
46:28
Speaker 1: Is the Trump admin working with companies like Palantir still?
46:31
Speaker 1: Are they interested in things like pre-crime and trying to
46:34
Speaker 1: figure out which American citizens are guilty of?
46:37
Speaker 5: Thoughts? No, I think that's China.
46:39
Speaker 2: It's definitely China.
46:41
Speaker 5: And that's the, and what you want to avoid is
46:43
Speaker 5: sort of the centralization of this information and like the
46:46
Speaker 5: centralization of these databases. So again, there are technical wickets
46:51
Speaker 5: that these companies can build into these databases on differential privacy,
46:55
Speaker 5: for example. So instead of having the, the individual characteristics
47:00
Speaker 5: of the data you collect neck down to a particular individual,
47:03
Speaker 5: it anonymizes that data so that you only find those
47:06
Speaker 5: very generic patterns. Because we know, and again, this is
47:10
Speaker 5: at the forefront of our consciousness, what China does, especially to,
47:14
Speaker 5: you know, individuals like the Uyghurs, they use those technologies
47:18
Speaker 5: to do sort of the pre-crime analysis. And that is
47:22
Speaker 5: verboten to Americans. That's not how we conduct our business.
47:27
Speaker 5: That's Yeah, but we live in a free country for
47:30
Speaker 5: a reason, and we will keep it that way.
47:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you're saying that because they can sort
47:34
Speaker 1: of make it anonymous. I guess my question is, do
47:37
Speaker 1: you think it's right for people to be concerned that
47:40
Speaker 1: we should just take your word for it, that it's
47:42
Speaker 1: going to be anonymous, right? And that you won't be
47:44
Speaker 1: able to say, oh, Evita Duffy, she searched up this thing,
47:46
Speaker 1: and therefore we're going to put her on some list.
47:48
Speaker 5: I think, you know, what is the price of freedom?
47:50
Speaker 5: Eternal vigilance. Yeah. I think every American should familiarize themselves
47:55
Speaker 5: with the Bill of Rights and fight for it at
47:57
Speaker 5: all times. And so and that's something this crop of
48:01
Speaker 5: patriots in this administration does on a regular basis. So, yeah,
48:06
Speaker 5: I think we are. You don't serve the president unless
48:10
Speaker 5: you are very concerned about privacy and civil liberties. And frankly,
48:16
Speaker 5: what was done. In the Biden administration to impose upon
48:22
Speaker 5: those rights. So that's something that we think about every day.
48:25
Speaker 5: And we know that the American people gave Trump an
48:29
Speaker 5: enormous mandate in part because some of these issues and
48:33
Speaker 5: will continue to be faithful to it.
48:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think if anything, the last admin
48:37
Speaker 1: was a massive warning for what could be as bad
48:42
Speaker 1: as it can get. I mean, we had, I think
48:44
Speaker 1: it was just last week, Tulsi Gabbard releasing a report
48:48
Speaker 1: for 2021 on the Biden admin. essentially the way that
48:52
Speaker 1: they criminalized right-wingers in this country, that they were literally
48:56
Speaker 1: doing that. So criminalizing just a certain point of view,
48:58
Speaker 1: which happens to make up half the country.
49:00
Speaker 2: And that's really scary stuff.
49:02
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
49:02
Speaker 2: And I want to talk to you about what your.
49:04
Speaker 1: Strategy is with dealing with extremist students on campus. The
49:08
Speaker 1: Trump admin has instructed Harvard to pull recognition and funding
49:13
Speaker 1: from a few student organizations. So this is in addition
49:16
Speaker 1: to trying to crack down on the DEI, which is
49:18
Speaker 1: obviously horrible, and bring back merit-based hiring practices. This is
49:22
Speaker 1: part of this letter that they've sent to Harvard to
49:25
Speaker 1: get back.
49:26
Speaker 2: Their $ 2.
49:26
Speaker 1: 2 billion in funding that they apparently were getting from
49:29
Speaker 1: the taxpayers. So some of the student groups, the Harvard
49:32
Speaker 1: Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee, Harvard Graduate Students for Palestine, Law
49:38
Speaker 1: Students for Palestine, Students for Justice in Palestine, and National
49:42
Speaker 1: Lawyers Guild. And they've asked Harvard to also discipline their
49:47
Speaker 1: officers and members. Now, again, I can understand DEI. I
49:51
Speaker 1: can understand merit-based hiring practices. I can understand not wanting
49:54
Speaker 1: students to take over a campus and pretend people going
49:56
Speaker 1: to and from class.
49:57
Speaker 2: These are bad things.
49:59
Speaker 1: I have some hesitations about the Trump admin demanding that
50:02
Speaker 1: we get rid of certain student groups. Shouldn't we be
50:05
Speaker 1: going after individuals who did bad things on college campuses
50:09
Speaker 1: last year instead of beliefs?
50:12
Speaker 5: We are not going after beliefs. It's targeting those actions, right?
50:17
Speaker 5: So there's a line that is crossed in many ways,
50:21
Speaker 5: like the individual who was spouting terrorist rhetoric and aiding
50:26
Speaker 5: and abetting foreign terrorist organizations in a lot of his
50:30
Speaker 5: writings and speeches. I mean, That's actual incitement. There are
50:33
Speaker 5: reasons why there are mechanisms in the law to deal
50:36
Speaker 5: with these things. So when it crosses a line into
50:39
Speaker 5: national security issues, as a lot of the courts were
50:42
Speaker 5: very clear on, then that becomes the problem. Then, you know,
50:46
Speaker 5: action should be triggered and everyone is within their rights
50:50
Speaker 5: to actually act. condemn what those people are doing.
50:53
Speaker 1: And a.
50:55
Speaker 5: Lot of it does come down to common sense as well.
50:58
Speaker 5: People can hide behind purported beliefs and whatnot, but when
51:02
Speaker 5: they're actually aiding and abetting and facilitating terrorism or even
51:06
Speaker 5: financing terrorism, I think that becomes a very clear-cut case.
51:10
Speaker 1: So is there any evidence that these student groups are
51:12
Speaker 1: financing or aiding in terrorism?
51:14
Speaker 5: I would have to find those details, but if you
51:17
Speaker 5: look at current trends, I would not be surprised if
51:20
Speaker 5: those data points exist.
51:21
Speaker 2: Well, I think that there's definitely....
51:25
Speaker 1: The students were doing, especially at Columbia University, taking over
51:28
Speaker 1: the campus, preventing students from going to and from class.
51:30
Speaker 5: Breaking the law.
51:31
Speaker 1: They were breaking the law, and they took over an
51:33
Speaker 1: entire building, and they were abusing janitors who got stuck
51:36
Speaker 1: in the building. It was very dramatic. It was obviously
51:39
Speaker 1: not appropriate, nor was it legal. What I would say is,
51:42
Speaker 1: let's go after the students who actually were participating in that,
51:45
Speaker 1: whether they're foreign-born, whether they're American citizens.
51:48
Speaker 2: If they broke the law, they should be punished for that.
51:50
Speaker 1: I'm just a little confused as to why we're going
51:53
Speaker 1: after specific student groups because if I'm part of a
51:56
Speaker 1: student organization and some students in my organization did bad things,
52:00
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean that I did those bad things.
52:01
Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily mean that students who are going to
52:03
Speaker 1: be part of the organization in the next few years
52:06
Speaker 1: have anything to do with what happened at Columbia or
52:08
Speaker 1: Harvard last summer.
52:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if you actually look at the data
52:13
Speaker 5: and the patterns, it would probably belie some of that analysis.
52:17
Speaker 5: And I also think, too, it, again, comes down to
52:21
Speaker 5: common sense. If you really take a step back and
52:24
Speaker 5: try to understand okay, who is complicit in these actions?
52:28
Speaker 5: You know, the world runs on deterrence. And I think
52:31
Speaker 5: it's really critical for these groups who are being encouraged
52:35
Speaker 5: by the administrators, who are bowling over these administrators in
52:39
Speaker 5: many aspects. Did you see the poor dean who came
52:42
Speaker 5: out and, may I please use the bathroom?
52:44
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean?
52:45
Speaker 5: Like beholden to these masked students, again, these masked people
52:49
Speaker 5: who are allying themselves with terrorist organizations like Hamas, That
52:53
Speaker 5: becomes a problem. So deterrence becomes a critical mechanism, I think,
52:58
Speaker 5: that we do have to utilize in order to avoid
53:00
Speaker 5: these situations that descend into lawlessness that actually become national
53:05
Speaker 5: security concerns in the future. Yeah.
53:08
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's, and you can't even argue
53:11
Speaker 1: that the schools have been overrun by Marxism. that a
53:14
Speaker 1: lot of the young pro-Palestine students are coming at this
53:17
Speaker 1: from an oppressor versus an oppressed worldview. And Jews are
53:21
Speaker 1: always the oppressor and the Palestinians are always the oppressed.
53:23
Speaker 1: And this framework has led to a lot of, I think,
53:27
Speaker 1: very cancerous beliefs and ideology. And it's not just what's
53:31
Speaker 1: happening with the pro-Palestine issue, but you saw it during
53:34
Speaker 1: BLM where the same Marxist framework was used on college
53:37
Speaker 1: campuses and you had students doing very similar things to
53:41
Speaker 1: what the massive protests are doing in the city of
53:43
Speaker 1: Chicago or in Seattle. So there's definitely a cancer on
53:46
Speaker 1: college campuses. I do believe, though, that we need to
53:49
Speaker 1: have free speech on campus. And so even if the
53:52
Speaker 1: students are saying things that I don't like, I think
53:54
Speaker 1: they should be allowed to say them so we can
53:56
Speaker 1: confront bad ideas with better ideas. We can talk about
54:00
Speaker 1: the admin and the departments that have been overrun by Marxism.
54:03
Speaker 1: But one way that the Trump admin, I think, is
54:06
Speaker 1: potentially limiting the speech of actual American citizens on campus
54:10
Speaker 1: is with the antisemitism speech codes that they've been asking for.
54:13
Speaker 1: So in this letter to Columbia University, the administration demanded
54:17
Speaker 1: that the school formalize, adopt, and promulgate a definition of antisemitism.
54:23
Speaker 1: And the definition that the admin wanted implemented is actually
54:26
Speaker 1: not defined by the admin itself, but defined by the IHRA.
54:30
Speaker 2: And some of these.
54:32
Speaker 1: Ideas of antisemitism from the IHRA is denying the Jewish
54:37
Speaker 1: people their right to self-determination. Example, by claiming that the
54:40
Speaker 1: existence of a state, that the state of Israel is
54:43
Speaker 1: a racist endeavor. I'll say, I don't think the state
54:45
Speaker 1: of Israel was a racist endeavor. I think it was
54:47
Speaker 1: a home for the Jewish people. But you're allowed to
54:49
Speaker 1: say that about the United States. You can say on
54:51
Speaker 1: a college campus, the United States was created as a
54:54
Speaker 1: racist endeavor and that's not a problem. But the admin
54:57
Speaker 1: is saying, we actually, it's against the school rules. It's
55:00
Speaker 1: a hate speech violation. If you say that about the
55:02
Speaker 1: state of Israel, And I'm a little confused why we're
55:05
Speaker 1: trying to tell students what they can and can't say
55:07
Speaker 1: on campus, but also why we're going to say this
55:10
Speaker 1: about Israel, but not the United States of America. They
55:12
Speaker 1: say it all the time about America, that we're a
55:14
Speaker 1: racist country.
55:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the general concept here is the status
55:18
Speaker 5: quo has always moved to the violent left, right? So
55:23
Speaker 5: like this, you sometimes need in order to, as I've
55:27
Speaker 5: said before, sort of right the ship, sort of give
55:30
Speaker 5: people guidance here, especially if they're taking federal funding. especially
55:34
Speaker 5: if they're taking taxpayer dollars. So, I mean, if Harvard
55:37
Speaker 5: doesn't want to take taxpayer money or federal funding again,
55:40
Speaker 5: they can do whatever they want. Again, be like Hillsdale.
55:43
Speaker 5: You can do whatever you want free from the federal government.
55:47
Speaker 5: But at this point in time, I think there needs
55:50
Speaker 5: to be drastic changes in these institutions. And it is
55:54
Speaker 5: not dictating to a T every little thing that they do.
55:58
Speaker 5: But I think there, as we've seen, there is a
56:03
Speaker 5: massive issue in these institutions. It's coming from the left
56:08
Speaker 5: and the country and these universities need to change.
56:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more that they need to change.
56:15
Speaker 1: You're going after, obviously, foreign-born students who have been involved
56:20
Speaker 1: in these really violent, outrageous protests on campuses. Is the
56:23
Speaker 1: admin considering potentially going after students who are foreign-born who
56:27
Speaker 1: participated in Black Lives Matter riots, which of course were
56:29
Speaker 1: an attack on this country, America, and our civilization, and
56:33
Speaker 1: our people, and burned down cities? I mean, my husband
56:37
Speaker 1: and I were in Kenosha, Wisconsin during the BLM riots,
56:39
Speaker 1: and that was, I mean, it was one of the
56:41
Speaker 1: most devastating things I've ever witnessed. So is there going
56:44
Speaker 1: to be a conversation about going after foreign-born students who
56:46
Speaker 1: were involved in the attacks on the United States, not
56:49
Speaker 1: just the attacks on Israel from last year?
56:52
Speaker 5: Not to my knowledge, but I do think that when
56:56
Speaker 5: you look at the foreign presence in America in these
56:59
Speaker 5: institutions and the money that flows in, the reason why
57:03
Speaker 5: a lot of these institutions admit these foreign students is
57:06
Speaker 5: because they pay full tuition, right? But who does that hurt?
57:10
Speaker 5: That hurts the common American. That hurts the young guy
57:14
Speaker 5: from Appalachia who might have a fantastic SAT if they
57:18
Speaker 5: even accept those anymore, right? And could have gotten on
57:22
Speaker 5: on the merits, but no, these universities, they want their money.
57:26
Speaker 5: They want to get paid. I think that is a
57:28
Speaker 5: problem that absolutely needs to get addressed. And then when
57:31
Speaker 5: they come as guests, at these institutions on our soil
57:35
Speaker 5: and start chanting things like death to America. And just
57:38
Speaker 5: the lack of gratitude. I think that needs to be
57:40
Speaker 5: rectified first. I think we're prioritizing that kind of thing first,
57:44
Speaker 5: because if you've probably seen a common strain in this
57:47
Speaker 5: administration is to put America first, to put the interests
57:52
Speaker 5: and the needs of American citizens first in all facets
57:55
Speaker 5: and national security, when it comes to homeland security, when
57:58
Speaker 5: it comes to our economy. I think we are long
58:02
Speaker 5: overdue for that type of realignment where we've succumbed to
58:07
Speaker 5: this system that has, as people used to call it,
58:10
Speaker 5: you know, the the liberal international order and whatnot, which
58:15
Speaker 5: has prioritized every other country, every other nation but America,
58:19
Speaker 5: every other citizen but America. It's time for that to change.
58:22
Speaker 5: And again, America said in November of last year that
58:25
Speaker 5: it's time for that to change. So let's put the
58:28
Speaker 5: American citizen first. Let's put American interests first. You'll see
58:31
Speaker 5: that common thread throughout all of our executive orders, especially
58:34
Speaker 5: those on day one. And this is one way to
58:37
Speaker 5: do that. Yeah.
58:39
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about judges a little bit,
58:40
Speaker 1: if we could go back to the Alien Enemies Act.
58:43
Speaker 1: Because there seems to be a push on the political
58:48
Speaker 1: right to instill judges who are originalists, who are constitutionalists.
58:53
Speaker 2: And we assume that because they're.
58:54
Speaker 1: An originalist, they care about our founding documents. Therefore, they're
58:58
Speaker 1: going to do the right thing. And it feels like
59:01
Speaker 1: a lot of times they don't do the right thing.
59:03
Speaker 1: And I wonder if the admin is considering a strategy
59:08
Speaker 1: shift in how we deal with judges, who we appoint,
59:11
Speaker 1: the political right just in general. Because I'll tell you what,
59:15
Speaker 1: when the left-wing judges, they rule on something, they never
59:18
Speaker 1: step out of bounds. And it feels like the conservative
59:21
Speaker 1: judges very frequently let us down.
59:24
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. I think it's so funny because whenever a big...
59:27
Speaker 5: emotional decision comes before them, you always know how Kagan's
59:31
Speaker 5: going to vote. You always know how Sotomayor's going to vote.
59:33
Speaker 5: You always know how Brown's going to vote. Every single time.
59:36
Speaker 5: It's like they never, they're dogmatic. What was that big
59:39
Speaker 5: accusation against Amy Coney Barrett during her nomination hearing? Whereas
59:45
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I almost think back to your
59:51
Speaker 5: idea that open discourse is sort of a hallmark of
59:54
Speaker 5: the right and that's a good thing. You know, a
59:57
Speaker 5: hallmark of some of these justices is they're free thinkers
1:00:01
Speaker 5: and they truly, truly try to make their decisions within
1:00:05
Speaker 5: the bounds of the law. I mean, personally, I think
1:00:07
Speaker 5: if you're not agreeing with Thomas and Alito, you're wrong.
1:00:10
Speaker 5: You've probably seen that before. And they're very, you know,
1:00:17
Speaker 5: august constitutional scholars and probably know it better than anyone.
1:00:22
Speaker 5: But when it comes to, I mean, we want to
1:00:26
Speaker 5: maintain the independence of our judiciary, the independence of the
1:00:29
Speaker 5: legislative branch, and the independence of the executive branch. So
1:00:33
Speaker 5: that is something we value. Again, as you see our
1:00:38
Speaker 5: allusions to Article II and many of our executive orders,
1:00:41
Speaker 5: I mean, these are all co-equal branches of government, right?
1:00:45
Speaker 5: The judicial branch is not meant to lord over the
1:00:47
Speaker 5: executive branch, as we're seeing with a lot of these
1:00:50
Speaker 5: rogue justices, not necessarily on the Supreme Court, but mostly
1:00:53
Speaker 5: in the federal district courts, So I just think reminding
1:00:56
Speaker 5: the American people that these are three co-equal branches of
1:00:59
Speaker 5: government is critical. And that is, again, something we think
1:01:02
Speaker 5: about every day. But we know that the executive branch,
1:01:06
Speaker 5: they were given specific reasons or powers for a reason.
1:01:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:01:11
Speaker 2: Well, and Trump has a mandate.
1:01:12
Speaker 1: I mean, specifically with the immigration issue, the invasion of
1:01:15
Speaker 1: our country. And it feels like a slap in the
1:01:19
Speaker 1: face to the American people when you have SCOTUS come
1:01:21
Speaker 1: in over top and try to impact what is the rightful.
1:01:26
Speaker 2: Duties of the executive branch. And he's not able to
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Speaker 2: do his job.
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Speaker 1: So what is happening internally right now is the admin
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Speaker 1: is dealing with some of these rulings, the inhibiting of
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Speaker 1: just doing their job, doing what the American people elected
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Speaker 1: President Trump to do with this, of course, invasion of
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Speaker 1: our country.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we operate under the cognition that the president has
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Speaker 5: Article II powers for a reason. Again, I have not
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Speaker 5: got out my constitution more in the past three months
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Speaker 5: than pretty much in my entire life, sort of being like,
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Speaker 5: am I missing something here? Am I the only one
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Speaker 5: who actually reads this? So I think that's obviously on
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Speaker 5: our minds. And when we write these executive orders, we
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Speaker 5: write them... you know, to try to make them as
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Speaker 5: airtight and as hewing towards the constitutional and the founder's
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Speaker 5: intent as possible. There's a reason for that. But yeah,
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Speaker 5: these rogue justices, again, are doing a disservice to the
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Speaker 5: American people, doing a disservice to the decision that they
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Speaker 5: made in November of last year. And it is something
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Speaker 5: that we think about and we will attempt to work
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Speaker 5: through for, it looks like, the next few years.
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Speaker 1: Well, Cara, I want to be respectful of your time,
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Speaker 1: but I also have one more question for you. What
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Speaker 1: is something about Stephen Miller that people wouldn't know or
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Speaker 1: wouldn't think?
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Speaker 5: That he is a national treasure?
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Speaker 1: Everyone knows that.
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Speaker 5: You know, this man is there for a reason. He
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Speaker 5: is I think with President Trump, the two of them,
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Speaker 5: obviously there's a great team over in the West Wing,
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Speaker 5: but I am so grateful he is on our side.
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Speaker 5: He is a weapon for America. I think people do
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Speaker 5: see that. They see that when he talks. I mean,
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Speaker 5: he's an actual genius. And there is no better person
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Speaker 5: to save the country, to restore our sovereignty than to secure,
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Speaker 5: as you've seen, helping President Trump secure the border in
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Speaker 5: the past, it's almost 100 days now, alone. So I
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Speaker 5: think just almost a monomaniacal focus on keeping the American
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Speaker 5: people safe and restoring our sovereignty with the presidents in
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Speaker 5: Pomodoro has been, it's been amazing to watch and to
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Speaker 5: help in a tiny way.
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Speaker 2: I love that.
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Speaker 1: I think you guys are doing God's work protecting this
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Speaker 1: country from people who have come in here and illegal
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Speaker 1: gang members, MS-13 gang members, wife beaters.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's absurd what has been allowed to happen.
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Speaker 1: And so I appreciate the work that you're doing and
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Speaker 1: that Stephen Miller is doing and that May is doing
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Speaker 1: and the president. Thank you so much for joining me.
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Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed that episode. I know I
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Speaker 1: really did. This is going to be the last of
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Speaker 1: interviews that I have for you guys. Hopefully we'll go
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Speaker 1: to the White House again. We'll get some different people.
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Speaker 1: We'll have some more conversations. But that's all I have
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Speaker 1: for the week for these episodes. We'll go back to
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Speaker 1: our regular show tomorrow. Thank you guys again so much
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Speaker 7: I think a lot of people are underestimating the Trump
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Speaker 7: effect in this midterm. You've heard it yourself. Act like
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Speaker 7: I'm on the ballot. Why is he saying that? You
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Speaker 7: think he doesn't know what he's doing? That is the
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Speaker 7: X factor. Folks, elections are a math issue.
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Speaker 8: That is it.
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Speaker 7: This is not a football game. If you vote, we
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Speaker 7: will win.
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