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20-The Illuminati: Secret Society, Global Domination, and Do They Still Exist? Are the Hosts Members? · Arguing Ever After

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So here we are on our 20th episode.
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Wow, that's amazing. That's a big deal.
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We're out of the teens. We are out of the teens, I mean,
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and we did have a bonus episode, so technically we kind of made
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it already. I know, but that was like a
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spare, like it didn't have a official, it had a half a
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number. It did have a half a number, but
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20 is a big deal in podcasting. Is it?
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It is a really big deal. Most podcasts don't make it to
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the 20th episode. Well, here we are.
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I know go us like we, whenever we hit these benchmarks, I feel
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like, you know, maybe we're here for a long haul.
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I think you're probably right about that.
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I was already thinking about the 26th episode as being a big
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deal. Why?
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Why the 26th? There's 52 weeks in a year, so
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half half a year is 26. Kind of like the 52nd episode
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would feel like a big deal too. Well, and we are currently that
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our plan is to release the episode every week, which I know
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not all podcasts do. Some of them, some of them will
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do something where they'll have a season and maybe there's like
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40 episodes in the season, kind of like TV when you're watching
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maybe. If we ever get rich and famous,
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we can do that. We'll do like 40 and then take a
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month off and just go bang around the world for fun.
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Yeah, sometimes people do that. I'm in for sure, for sure.
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But like, if you think about TV shows, right, I, I watch some TV
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shows where it's like, you know, season 53 and I haven't been
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watching this for 53 years. That's one of your cooking
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shows. I saw it yesterday.
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I was like, wait, what? I know.
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That's not possible. The show's not even been on for
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that long. I know well, but that's how you
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kind of make the additional I don't.
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Know then you can make some weird claims.
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We've been on for 53 seasons. Like yeah, 5 episodes a season.
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I know. And we're determining what a
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season is. So I mean, we could.
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So we could technically be in Season 2 right now.
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We could. I know if I'm ready for that.
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Maybe we'll do it, maybe we won't.
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I don't know. I don't know.
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I like having the numbers though, so if anyone were to be
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like hey I really wanna binge listen to all of the episodes,
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they know where they can stop. That's true.
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I listened to a podcast that just today, it was like the 230
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something episode. That's a lot.
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It is. It is.
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I mean, I listen to some that are that high too, but it's
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really weird to think about. Yeah, that's to me several
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years, but maybe it's not for how they're recording.
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Maybe it's more than that. It's less than that.
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I don't think so cuz I feel like I started with this podcast, you
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know, like I started roughly when they started and I feel
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like it's not been that many years, but I don't know, time's
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weird. Time is weird.
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It's so weird is. That life hack #4.
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No, that's just life fact #4. How about I got another one?
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Time is hard. It is hard too for sure.
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For sure. I definitely have struggled
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sometimes with either time being too short too long.
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It's been a long time though since I felt like time was too
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long. Explain.
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You know, when I was a kid and I'd sit there and it would be
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like, I think about, oh, a summer or something, and how
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long a summer felt. Wait a minute, as a kid you
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thought summer felt too long. Not too long, but it felt long,
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right? And now I feel like we're in,
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we're in November, right? And summer, although.
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It's so weird. Summer is long gone.
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It is long. We're like deep into the
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darkness here in Minnesota. That's really interesting
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because looking back is a long ways, looking forward feels
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really short. Huh.
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It's probably, I don't know, it's probably because maybe we
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grew up in a place where the seasons are very pronounced.
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I don't know. I think time is just like that.
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I don't I just I. Wonder though, like what if you
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lived near the equator and you were like in a, you know, lush
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or area or a desert area or you know, and like sure there were
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seasons but the time of day was always like pretty split 12
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hours of light each. The only reason we get all wild
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with our darkness and our light is because we're so far north
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that we get what is it, 7 hours of light during the winter and I
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don't. Know it's not very many.
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It's not very many. I think it is like 7.
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That sounds gross, but you might be right.
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Like I feel like it gets dark at 4:30 and I mean it's.
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Already getting dark at 4:30 and the darkest day of the year is
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December 21st. Well, I like not to think about
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that. I like to think about the
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lightest day of the year. That's June 21st.
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And we're not there. We're not.
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Where there's like 15 hours of sunlight or something crazy.
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Is that always the same every year?
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I don't know the actual numbers clearly, I just made them up
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because they add up to 22, no? So it's probably like 8 hours in
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the, you know. No, that's not what I meant.
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I meant like the 21st. Is it always the 21st?
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What if it's on a leap year? Is it still a thing It might
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move to like the 20th or something.
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Yeah. I don't, I'm not 100%.
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Are we added a leap year next year?
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Call your local meteorologist. Well, I could look at a
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calendar. It ain't me.
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I don't know if a meteorologist is the one who's.
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I was talking more about your lightness and darkness.
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No, I wasn't even asking about that.
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I would. Call your local calendar
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ologist. I might, I might.
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There's got to be. Something exist job.
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Is there a job title for somebody that does the leap
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earring of things? You know, I don't know, I feel
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like that probably isn't because it's just supposed to be every
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four years, like that job was already handled.
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Robot clock. The atomic clock.
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Decades ago, that job was handled.
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That's. Probably true.
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You know, it's kind of like a one and done.
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If we decide it's every four years, it's just you need just
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need someone who remembers, who put it on their calendar.
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Also, why is it not automatically a holiday?
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What? Leap Day.
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Oh, I don't know. Why would I see?
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It's an extra free day. Like, why wouldn't it just be
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like, nobody has to go to work, nobody has to do anything, You
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can just do whatever you want because it's a holiday, because
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it's an extra day. I'll take it, I'll take it.
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I would take it. But I don't know who we have to
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talk to to make that happen. Well, let's get some letters out
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to people I said letters for. You, he said letters, he
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whispered it, which might not have been very.
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It was mostly for you. You can actually still write
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letters to your congressman and send it.
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I do. I think if I'm writing an
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e-mail, I'm writing a letter. I don't know unless it's an
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e-mail message, right? Like those are two different
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things. It depends on the form that I'm
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doing. Like if it's several paragraphs
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I feel like it's a letter, if it's like 2-3, maybe it's just a
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message. Do you know what I wonder?
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What if the people that set up the Leap Day were a secret
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society? Wow, someone's trying to segue
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here and it was not well. Viewers and listeners already
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know what we're going to talk about based on the title.
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No, I don't know. I don't know.
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Maybe they won't, I don't know. They just found out though.
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About something. Yeah, but not everything.
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So that is something we're gonna talk about today is secret
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societies. We'll we'll just start it now.
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We're there now. We could also.
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Do the one piece of research I did.
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We'll just toss that right in the beginning.
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Did you do research? Today, just for just for about
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maybe 30 seconds. Do you know 2 amazing things
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that started in the year 1776? OK.
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I don't know if you're right about one of the two based on my
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research. Well, you did more than 30
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seconds. I did way more.
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This is not fair. Why do you always outresearch
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me? Because I don't try to,
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apparently, I just do. I'm pretty sure I know what
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you're talking about. One of them is the United States
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of America. Yes.
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And the other one you're wrong about I'm thinking.
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But let's hear it. Let's hear what you think.
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You. Well, according to a real quick
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little breeze on the the interwebs, the Illuminati.
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Nope. And it's not it.
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It's not right. I feel like it's older than
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that, like in my gut. It truly is good it.
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Truly is. What's with that, then?
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Is that like some wait, is that the founding of it in the United
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States of America? Did they say, well the USA is
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going independent, so are we? OK, so today we're talking about
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secret societies. Yeah, news flash.
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One in particular, but you know, we'll talk about all of them.
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We. Have a couple to talk about for
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sure, but we're talking about secret societies, and one of the
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two that we're going to discuss today is the Illuminati, and the
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other one is another very important one that kind of
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inspired the Illuminati, which is the Freemasons.
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That one's older. It is older, it is.
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Weren't like, I think a lot of our founding fathers,
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Freemasons? Yes, a lot of them were.
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That was a society that people had to, you know, but it was a
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very public society you had to pay to get into.
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Still public. Yes, you had to pay you.
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Still pay to get into it. I'm I'm sure I'm sure you do
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well. We know somebody.
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I mean, I we're going to talk about a little bit more of that
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in the future, but who do we know?
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Well, maybe you don't. I.
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Really don't. I grew up and went to school
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with and played sports with the guy who is deep in the Mason
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society. OK, he might be like one of them
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level 33 dudes. Well, so the Illuminati, when
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they started, it was actually in Bavaria in the early 1700s, and
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there was this guy, and I'm not going to remember his name.
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Probably had a German sounding named.
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It but it might have been, might have been a little German
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sounding. But anyhow, he was like, I feel
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like the Freemasons are cool, but but they're a little
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limited. And and he didn't like how like
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the Illuminati. What he wanted was the Society
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of folks who could come together and kind of have this higher
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thinking. Kind of like the Freemasons, but
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secreter. No, the Freemasons weren't
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secret. I meant the higher thinking.
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But better, higher thinking. Better than them.
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Yes, they're. In a one up.
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Yes, because the Freemasons were stuck by religion, right?
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And so they were like, we don't want to be a part of that.
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Well, imagine in the early 1700s in the very religious world that
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Bavaria was living in. But they were like, cool, we
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don't want you to have something that's away from religion.
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So that's why they had to live in the secret and be.
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Hidden and all of that, because if they weren't linked up they
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would be like witches. Right, right.
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Oh, well, that's that's wrong, right.
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Like you're you're thinking outside of this is the rule
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that. You want to have a power that's
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away from God. Right.
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You're gonna burn at the stake. Well, and there was a lot of.
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Checks out. Well, I mean, and there was a
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lot of. What was it with humanity in the
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1700s? It was like we're just
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everyone's going down. It's a rough time.
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I mean, there was change in thought, right?
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And and there was expansion of the world, right?
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So a lot of it, yeah. And I think that that's what
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part of it was, is people were seeing new spaces and they were
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meeting new people and that just.
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That changes some things. But one of the things back then
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when it started with the Illuminati and they actually had
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like several thousand members in a pretty short period of time,
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they because they were kind of against the church, you know,
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then they had to be seen as evil.
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And so anything that would happen, they're like, that's
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Illuminati. And the Illuminati folks were
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like, great, we know we have to live underground type of a
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thing, which is fine. You know that they did that.
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Well, I bet you they were all I bet you.
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Who knows because I didn't do any research.
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I'm just currently out here just tossing thoughts at you.
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I bet you that in Europe at the time, there was probably a lot
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of like excitement, but that had to be hidden about the the new
13:27
world because, you know, obviously everyone knows that
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1492 and blah, blah, blah. But like people coming over and
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mass was like mid 1600s on. So probably if you're 100 years
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in this European expansion into the new World and you've got
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like France owned a big part of it and Spain owned a big part of
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it. And you must have done some
13:52
research because you just got a smirk on your face And Britain
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and like, and then here they are thinking, well, this is outside
14:02
of the church and they're trying to do something different over
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there in this newly founded American place in the late
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1700s. So what's interesting is that
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I'm. Here to learn, I'm sorry.
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You are here to learn. I would say you're here to learn
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today. What is interesting is that
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they, they, the church, like I said, didn't like the
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Illuminati. They were secret society saying
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things that weren't, you know, based out of the religion and
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the, and the religious folks weren't saying that.
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So what the religious folks were doing was they would look and
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say OK, cool. These bad things that are
14:36
happening that are against what we think is the law of God are
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because of the Illuminati. So French Revolution they blamed
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on the Illuminati? Wait, what?
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Yeah, yeah, like. Talking about off with their
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head and all that. Yeah, yeah, They said that the
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French folks were infiltrated by the Illuminati, which who knows?
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Maybe it were, maybe. Who knows?
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Who knows you're? Saying the revolution will not
15:00
be televised, it will be started by a secret society.
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Right, Yeah, yeah. So then there was then they kind
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of fed some fear towards, you know, Great Britain, you know,
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right. What timing we're looking at
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here and we have I. Mean if we're just can.
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Revolution. So can secret societies.
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Sure, but we have we have this this world of American
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Revolution going on. And and they're saying cool
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Britain, be careful because the Illuminati's going over into
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America and the Illuminati was like, we're pretty sure
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America's going to get wiped out.
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So they were like. Everybody thought we were going
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to lose. Yeah, they were like, maybe we
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should send some people over. So it was kind of like this
15:45
joint thing, whether or not they send people over.
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They were thinking they'd even had something like, we're going
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to send 12 men and twelve women and a whole bunch of orphans
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over to America. Like this was an Illuminati
15:56
thing that they were gonna do. Specific.
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It was very specific to repopulate America.
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With Illuminati. Well, I mean, yeah, they'd be in
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like they would be a part of the new order, right?
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So if you've ever heard that term New Order, that's part of
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it. That's from the Illuminati, yes.
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What I know? I mean, obviously people have
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probably been saying something similar for all of eternity, but
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that specific reference, that's OK, OK.
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Well, I mean, we see things that are sometimes attributed to the
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Illuminati that are that the Illuminati, they actually did
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respect the Freemasons in general.
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They thought it was really cool how they were able to get these
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people who are enlightened, you know, together, maybe
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enlightened together and work well to do some things that they
16:46
felt needed to happen. So they did pull some things
16:50
from the Freemasons, but they're like they're too limited because
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they're public. So today, you know we'll think
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about the pyramid right in the on the dollar bill you.
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Mean with like the all seeing. Eye Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They pulled that from the Freemasons, OK.
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But eyeball or the shape pyramid of the of the.
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I don't know, you know, now that you say.
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That the the triangle had a specific reference of why there
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were three sides or something, I bet you.
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Yeah, the overall shape that they use was taken, borrowed
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from, I don't know. We can't really own the
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triangle. Right.
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I mean, the Egyptians owned it pretty hard.
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Though they did well and that's, that's the question too, you
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know, but. What's the question?
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There is some theory, maybe it is older than this guy.
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Maybe it was double secret right from back from Egypt.
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Yeah, we're. Talking like Pharaoh descendants
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surviving in the. From what I could tell, it was
17:52
very small, like it's not a well subscribed thing.
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I think a lot of people do say it kind of died off within a
18:00
pretty short amount of time because one of the things I was
18:04
listening to is sort of interesting.
18:05
I thought it was sort of funny they were hidden, but kind of
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the church knew who these people were, right?
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They're like, we know that whatever this guy's name is,
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he's the leader of it. Josiah.
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Yeah, it doesn't matter. And the dude who was leader was
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like, great, well, they know it's me, I better leave.
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But hide all of my papers and he's like, they're never going
18:32
to look where I I hide them. And he hid them in his wife's
18:38
underwear drawer. Wow, yeah, that was the stash
18:42
spot. That was a.
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That's what he came up with. I'm starting to question all the
18:47
Enlightenment at this point. If he didn't, what?
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I know, I know. So he.
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Didn't have like a in the walls or under the floorboard
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situation. No.
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OK, Strong box underwater, nothing.
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He was one of. Put them in the panty drawer.
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Stop it it. Was like the church wouldn't
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dare go in there. Oh my goodness, that's right.
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The first place they look, you're like, well, it's not in
19:13
his desk. Let's go check the panty drawer.
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Right, right. They're like women are evil.
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Must go check there so well anyhow that was part of how they
19:23
found some of his thoughts that he had and then of course others
19:26
in the group. But the dude went into hiding
19:29
for for the rest of his life. And the question really is, you
19:33
know, did he continue to spread it or not?
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You know, and I. Don't think you lose that kind
19:37
of passion. Yeah, I mean, you might, you
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might not. We were.
19:41
Talking about something that was a secret underground society for
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a long time, like 100 years or more.
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Yeah. Yeah, that came to the New
19:48
World. And you think the bro is just
19:50
gonna stop because he wants to not have it checked out of his
19:53
wife's panty drawer? I know.
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No deal. It's just so funny.
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That's such a weird place. Like if I'm gonna hide
19:59
something, I probably wouldn't hide it on my known residence.
20:03
Yeah, that's crazy. Right.
20:04
Or maybe I do. Have, unless you've seen it in
20:07
some TV shows Where the the cartels will like open up a wall
20:13
and justice stack cash in there and then they drywall it back
20:16
in. That's pretty smart.
20:17
Right, right. And they could have done that,
20:19
but I feel like the. Or under the floorboards.
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That's a common. Right, but I feel like they're
20:24
pretty thorough in their searching.
20:25
But other people did try those other places, but I just it just
20:29
I think it's hilarious. Why?
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Wouldn't you do like, I mean, even back then you still had
20:32
like pirates or privateers as they like to be called.
20:37
I mean they had like, you know, the whole bury the treasure
20:39
thing. Why don't you go put like a
20:41
little X on this? X marks the spot on a map and
20:44
then it's off in the middle of the woods somewhere, and you
20:48
only know if you got the map and right.
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No, he didn't opt for any of that.
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No. I'm not ever gonna get over this
20:54
that. No, I know put it.
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In the in the underwear, I know what.
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I. Know, and he's supposed to be
21:00
the leader of a of a of a power society.
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Yes, of enlightened folks who are going to change the world.
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Can you imagine that conversation after he hit it?
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Yeah. He's like, guys, don't worry.
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Yeah, I got. This I put it in Isabel's panty
21:14
drawer and they were like, good, they'll never look.
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Never. Oh my goodness.
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So that was just something that was really bizarre and I thought
21:24
I really had to share, but honestly.
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If I ever hide anything now, it's going right in your drawer.
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OK, no one will look there. No one's gonna look.
21:32
Why would they? Obviously I know that's that
21:34
would be wrong. That would be kind of, I don't
21:38
know, like dirty for a priest to go looking in there, Right,
21:42
right. I don't know.
21:44
I was putting maybe a little too much faith in what they would
21:46
and would not do. But but this topic of the
21:51
Illuminati was falling in our woo woo topics.
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Yes, and we weren't going to touch a woo woo for a while.
21:59
It's not quite as woo woo as as many many that we have on there
22:02
because we have like ghosts and you know, there's lots of right,
22:07
that's much more in the woo woo, as they say, aliens.
22:11
Have we done aliens? Yes, we've done aliens.
22:14
Yeah. Oh yeah, we did.
22:14
Aliens. We did.
22:15
We might do more on aliens at another.
22:17
Time. There's a lot we.
22:17
But anyhow, this was a woo woo item and we had said we were not
22:21
doing woo woo for a while because we did have a whole
22:24
month of spooky. We did.
22:26
This is not spooky. This is not.
22:28
Well, to some people it really was, and to some people still
22:31
today it really is right. But like today, people are very
22:35
concerned that the cabal is, you know, running behind.
22:40
What's a cabal? It's a secret society.
22:42
And in that scenario, the concept is more that they're
22:45
terrifying, right? Like because they're devious and
22:48
they want to only work for their own gains, you know?
22:51
But the Illuminati, some people would consider a cabal.
22:55
So a cabal. Were they evil?
22:57
A People felt that way, yes. Remember what I said?
23:00
But they didn't think they were evil.
23:02
Well, whoever thinks themselves evil.
23:04
Probably not a lot of people. I don't know of anyone, maybe a,
23:07
but. Like did they do stuff that
23:09
would be easily categorized as bad?
23:12
OK, well, if you think that they were, if you believe that they
23:15
were to blame for blame the French Revolution.
23:20
Guillotines. Guillotines are not like the
23:24
least evil things in the world. And yet the I mean of the no
23:29
research I've done about the French Revolution, and I forgot
23:32
everything I learned about it in high school.
23:34
I mean, that was the people rising up against the corruption
23:39
and the oppression of the aristocracy.
23:42
Remember though, it's who writes the history, the winners, right?
23:46
So for us it sounds great, but during that time it was so
23:50
against the norm. Probably if you were in
23:52
Aristocrat, you would have thought this is not a good deal,
23:55
right? I'm going to get my head cut.
23:56
Off and most of most of that civilization, that was how they
24:02
were living aristocratically, right.
24:04
Actually, most a lot of the world was living that way.
24:06
So it seemed really evil and awful back then to outsiders
24:11
looking in and they're like, who got these?
24:14
Who got them all messed up about this, right?
24:16
So but even there are many people who still believe that
24:20
today the Illuminati is up and running, right?
24:24
So like, Oh yeah, and doing evil things, you know, and whatever
24:28
those evil things are, I don't know, but it's going to be
24:30
counter culture, right? That's the whole concept.
24:33
So that's why I was saying the cabal's that exist today in the
24:35
counter culture, you know, like the concepts of the big people
24:40
today that I think about that I've heard about who are
24:42
Illuminati, right, Beyoncé. Oh good, she's Jay-Z.
24:47
Jay-Z has rapped about Illuminati.
24:49
Rihanna. OK, look at they're all
24:52
billionaires. Look at them.
24:53
I yeah, well, they're like, it's the, IT makes sense to some
24:56
people that they're part of the pop or cultural, the popular
25:00
culture because they're, they're there, they're able to get that
25:04
exposed. It's very multicultural factor
25:07
because I just realized everyone you said.
25:09
That's a really very great thing that you noticed there, because
25:14
remember, people think they're evil.
25:17
Oh my goodness, for real. Yes.
25:19
Oh, this is terrible. Yes, yes, this world we live in
25:23
is, is not, I mean, it's deep, but also not that deep.
25:27
It's easy to find some of these things.
25:29
So there's a lot out there for folks who are interested in some
25:33
of those current. No, I I don't know.
25:36
I would. I have heard that they they are
25:38
not necessarily evil. You know, so like I'd said
25:41
earlier, there's a reason why this came up.
25:44
Recently. Very recently we.
25:49
I'm so excited to share this is I can barely contain myself.
25:52
This is such great news. I but like the Illuminati is not
25:58
all evil. It's not evil, I'm going to say.
26:01
Again, according to recent documents that were provided,
26:04
yeah, yeah, maybe they're not so bad.
26:07
On our very 20th episode, we're very excited to announce yes,
26:11
that we have been and are invited into the Illuminati.
26:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah, us. Just little old Arguing Ever
26:24
After podcast. Maybe, well, it's our turn to be
26:27
billionaires. We were promised fame, glory and
26:33
power. Or something like that.
26:34
And and for those who don't believe that we were invited, we
26:38
would like to share with you. Yeah, this is a sharing.
26:41
Moment. This is a sharing moment and I'm
26:43
sorry if you were watching and I made things look really weird
26:46
there. We have to share this invite
26:49
with you 100% and this invite came from the Illuminati via
26:56
TikTok. Yeah, cuz they're on TikTok.
26:59
Yes, yes, and. With 1800 followers.
27:03
With 1800 followers cuz you can't be too big cuz you're the
27:06
illuminati. Are we saying the name of the
27:08
account or we? I mean, we.
27:10
Why not? I don't know.
27:11
This is they sent it to us. I.
27:12
Mean it says official so. It does say Pyramid Power
27:15
official. Pyramid Power official.
27:17
Pyramid. Do you think they post like
27:20
Illuminati stuff? I don't even wanna know, but
27:22
let's keep going. Anyhow, so I was going through
27:26
our social media accounts and I was just absolutely shocked when
27:34
I got this message. And we're gonna read it for you,
27:38
just so that you can know how how we have been invited.
27:43
Yeah. And we're going to do a little
27:44
role play, a little back and forth.
27:45
Yes, so I she's. Going to be pyramid power.
27:48
Official pyramid power. And I'm going to Rep for arguing
27:50
ever after. Yes.
27:51
So in this I got to let you all know it was very important.
27:56
This happened on 1117. Now if that number means nothing
28:01
to you, 111725, let's just do some numbers there.
28:06
You'll find some things in there.
28:08
I know I did, but from the Pyramid Power official
28:13
greetings, I extend to you an invitation from the Illuminati
28:17
Society. Based on our membership criteria
28:20
criteria, we have identified your exceptional qualities,
28:24
making you a person of significant interest to the
28:29
Illuminati Council Council. Consequently, we view you as a
28:34
candidate who could leverage our platform to connect with
28:38
influential individuals capable of elevating you to wealth,
28:43
paint power, fame, and glory. I strongly encourage you to
28:48
consider joining the Illuminati. By joining, you could achieve
28:52
great wealth and live the life you desire.
28:56
Do you accept to proceed with us?
29:01
Tell us more about this opportunity.
29:04
Very interested. Absolutely.
29:07
This initiative is about creating a positive impact in
29:11
the world while empowering individuals to grow and reach
29:15
their highest potential. Our goal is to bring together
29:19
people who want to make meaningful change, not just in
29:22
their own lives, but in the lives of others as well.
29:26
We also focus on providing opportunities and support the
29:30
less privileged, helping them elevate to a higher standard and
29:35
unlock new possibilities. And what is needed to join?
29:41
The only thing needed to begin is openness and willingness to
29:46
understand how the process works.
29:49
Before anything else. I want to walk you through the
29:52
values, expectations, and steps so you're fully aware and
29:59
comfortable. My goal is not to rush you, but
30:02
to make sure everything is clear, transparent and aligned.
30:09
OK. Welcome to the Light.
30:14
We are a global organization dedicated to the betterment of
30:17
humankind. Our mission is simple yet
30:20
powerful. We rise by lifting others,
30:24
supporting humanity, and working together to create a world where
30:28
everyone can thrive. Unity is our strength and
30:32
through it we stand as one family.
30:37
May I ask, do you have any prior experience with Illuminati
30:40
Brotherhood or have you ever considered joining before?
30:45
No prior experience at all and never dreamed it would be
30:49
possible to join. Is there a membership form?
30:53
Is there a card we can get? What are the expectations and
30:57
next steps? The expectations are simple.
31:00
Stay committed, communicate openly, and be ready to learn.
31:06
Let me share this with you to deepen your understanding.
31:10
The Illuminati is a private network of influential
31:13
individuals from various fields working together to promote
31:17
global prosperity and understanding.
31:20
Our organization exists to empower individuals and provide
31:24
a platform for equal opportunities.
31:27
We strive to build bridges between our members in the
31:30
communities we serve. Note the Illuminati was made for
31:34
you and me. It was created to liberate
31:37
mankind from suffering and manipulation of evil and to give
31:41
the less privileged a true chance at equality.
31:45
Do you get this? Sounds like a great opportunity
31:50
and very excited to be a part of this 'cause.
31:53
I'm glad you feel that way. Stay open and patient.
31:57
You'll understand soon why this invitation reached you at the
32:02
right time. For now, just follow the process
32:05
step by step with me. Everything will make sense as we
32:09
move forward, and you'll be thankful you trusted this
32:12
beginning. OK.
32:16
The Illuminati is often misunderstood, but in reality,
32:20
it represents enlightenment, unity, and progress.
32:25
At its heart, it's about knowledge, wisdom, and helping
32:28
individuals reach their highest potential.
32:31
It brings people together as one family, regardless of
32:34
background, and encourages us to uplift each other so that
32:38
everyone can thrive. It also focuses on empowerment,
32:42
guiding members to live with purpose and use their influence
32:46
to make a positive impact in their communities and beyond.
32:51
In simple terms, it's not just an organization, but a movement
32:55
dedicated to creating a better, more united and enlightened
32:59
world. Understood.
33:02
It sounds like a great community.
33:05
Many seek the light, but only if you are truly ready to
33:09
understand its source. Just like you, many people are
33:13
only beginning to truly understand the depth of what the
33:16
Illuminati stands for. While its presence may seem
33:20
hidden to the world, the dedication beyond its powerful
33:24
and great, focused, sorry, and real, focused entirely on
33:29
creating a better future for all.
33:32
In a time when most people are chasing wealth and only focused
33:35
on themselves, the Illuminati calls on something greater.
33:39
Courage, wisdom, honor, and intelligence on a global scale.
33:44
Its ultimate purpose goes beyond personal gain.
33:48
It's about transformation, uplifting humanity, inspiring
33:52
unity, and sparking real, lasting change.
33:56
And souls like yours are exactly what this path was meant for.
34:01
Are you willing to transform and be a part of creating a better
34:05
change? Of course, yes.
34:09
OK, to ensure you receive the most accurate information and
34:13
proper guidance regarding the process, I'll be connecting you
34:16
with one of our senior board members.
34:18
He'll be providing you with more detailed insights and next
34:22
steps. Shall we proceed?
34:24
Yes please, just wondering if this person is a part of the
34:28
Council. Yeah.
34:32
Heart. For secure and efficient
34:35
communication, we recommend the use of Signal or Telegram.
34:38
These platforms provide end to end encryption, ensuring every
34:42
exchange remains confidential, protected and free from external
34:47
interference. To proceed with the
34:49
introduction, please confirm if you currently have access to any
34:52
of these applications. Once confirmed, I'll establish a
34:56
direct and secure communication with our senior Board member for
35:00
the next phase of our onboarding process.
35:02
Your prompt response will enable us to continue seamlessly.
35:07
Shoot, I can install other apps. Can you continue with this one?
35:15
I would need to ask the kid how to install it, but I can't right
35:18
now. Yeah, I need to use this app.
35:22
The kid is not available until Friday.
35:25
OK. Monday is the next
35:30
communication. Can we continue here?
35:33
Can the council member message here?
35:36
No. OK.
35:39
I will let you know when I have Telegram because I am very
35:43
excited to have the opportunity to be a part of this.
35:45
Really wanting to know about the next steps.
35:49
So as you can see, based on that invitation, we are Illuminati.
35:54
We were like from jump. From, well, no.
35:57
From second. Jump Yeah, yeah, we were
36:00
inducted into Illuminati. Welcome to the light, they.
36:03
Say I know. Welcome.
36:04
Welcome to the light. Also I love how they went from
36:09
wealth, power, fame and glory to It's really not about personal
36:13
gain, no, it's about helping other people.
36:16
Right. So what I'm seeing is our
36:19
expansive reach of this podcast, this very podcast is going to
36:26
enrich your life as a listener and we are going to gain tons of
36:32
things as Illuminati. Agreed, and while we may have
36:37
not made it to the next step of joining whatever the Council is,
36:41
because we have already been welcomed to the Light, I feel
36:45
like we can welcome you all to the Light as well.
36:48
Well, to our light. Just welcome indeed.
36:51
Welcome to our lights. And you don't need to install a
36:54
special app to talk to us more, you could just listen and watch.
36:59
So when I know people might be thinking, do I really believe
37:03
that that's a thing? Do I really believe that there
37:06
was some good? Luke, there's some good stuff
37:09
though. I just have a little bit of
37:11
proof for you all that. Yeah, some of.
37:13
Those. Yeah, if you don't think we're
37:15
worthy. Well, if you don't think it's
37:18
happened, some of the great things that have been bestowed
37:22
upon us in the time since we were welcome to the light, it's
37:28
unbelievable, unflipping, believable.
37:30
Yeah, here we go. We have had many people reaching
37:36
out, letting us know how beautiful we are.
37:39
Beautiful complete strangers on the Internet.
37:41
Yep. Letting us know, yeah.
37:44
The next thing is I I've been really overwhelmed by the amount
37:49
of calls and letters with opportunities to lower our
37:53
insurance. Rate indeed got 1 today.
37:56
Especially just for us. Yep, that's power.
38:00
Also, we've been getting messages.
38:02
This is amazing to get free money.
38:05
Like just somebody who's like, hey, I've got extra money.
38:08
Yeah, I want to give it to you. Just give it away.
38:11
Just give it away. Yeah, click here.
38:13
Yeah. I mean, there's the wealth here
38:15
that we get also along with that we've been given or there's
38:20
several business opportunities that folks are saying they want
38:23
to work with us on. But earlier we were talking
38:28
about how the Illuminati was inspired by the Freemasons.
38:32
Not only have we been now inducted into the Illuminati,
38:36
but the Freemasons have also reached out to Luke.
38:39
Because I can't be a part of it to be a part of.
38:42
Those girls booties? Yeah, I guess maybe, I don't
38:46
know, it doesn't matter, but Luke's gotten that in.
38:48
Mason, here we go. And I'm going to say we have
38:52
gained 2 new followers on our podcast.
38:56
Boom. All of these things tell me that
38:59
great things have been coming. They have since the 1117
39:03
inception of Arguing Ever After into the Illuminati.
39:07
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
39:10
Yeah. And the dates?
39:11
They don't lie. No.
39:13
I mean, just every time you say that, I'm going, oh, that's
39:16
Illuminati day. 1117 Illuminati. Day, you know, if you take one,
39:20
one and one, guess what you take the 20, five, 5 -, 2, that's
39:25
three. That's I'm just saying.
39:28
Which equals 10 and if you times 10 by that 2 again, you're at
39:31
20. We're at episode 20.
39:33
Yep. I'm just saying the math is all.
39:35
One and one and 1 + 7. That's 10 * 2.
39:38
Yep. 21, one and one. That's three.
39:41
Three's the magic number. We have a seven there.
39:43
Sides of a triangle. Three sides.
39:45
Of a triangle back to the Illuminati 7 if you add 7 and
39:51
7:00 and 7:00 3 sevens luckies all get out do.
39:55
That's a jackpot right there. 2 + 5 is 7.
39:58
I I'm telling you, there's, there are so many signs.
40:01
Not a lot of accidents in that date.
40:03
Not a lot. And it was from an official
40:05
account. Yes, it did have the word
40:07
official, so I believe it. So there you go folks.
40:12
I just, we were so excited. Did they have more followers
40:15
than us? No, we have more followers.
40:17
That's why they look for. Us Well, they are a secret
40:19
society, right? Maybe they.
40:22
And they're only inviting. They're only inviting.
40:24
Invitation only. Yes, whereas we're like cool,
40:27
hey, follow. Us.
40:29
We're our invitation only. Podcast.
40:31
We want a large audience and the Illuminati, which we are now, we
40:36
don't want, we need to be very discriminate in the Illuminati.
40:41
I don't care who you are to listen to the podcast because
40:43
either I'm going to enlighten you, yes, or you're going to
40:47
help me. I don't know which it's going to
40:49
be, but it's going to be 1 or the other.
40:50
Hopefully it's helped me win. Right, right.
40:53
So that was super exciting news and I know we were going to stay
40:56
away from the woo woo. And I always saw this woo woo.
40:59
It's a little woo woo, but everyone who's been watching, I
41:03
just wanna thank you all for getting us.
41:05
Yeah, all the way to where we are now, which is in the
41:09
Illuminati. Episode 20.
41:11
Pretty legit. It really is.
41:13
It really is. Well, Luke, given all this, it's
41:16
time for me to ask you the big question.
41:18
Let's get it, girl. Okay, so in this corner we have
41:23
Luke. He's weighing in at 185 plus
41:26
today. Looks like he's feeling real
41:29
good, real ready for our fight or our question.
41:34
And we're at such a tie right now, which also makes sense
41:37
because we're the Illuminati. We're both in the light.
41:40
We're both in the light, but now, Luke.
41:45
And in this corner we have Amber, whose new status,
41:50
elevated, enlightened, empowered, is a threat to me
41:57
over here because I'm worried she's going to take me down.
42:00
Right, right. And I might because you know,
42:02
here's the thing I have to ask you, I don't it doesn't matter
42:07
what you believed yesterday. Well, or 1116.
42:13
Handful of days ago. Do you now believe that the
42:16
Illuminati are real? I really.
42:20
Wish today. You would have said, just
42:22
because it's funny, do you believe?
42:25
Do you now believe or are you willing to believe?
42:29
Because I feel like, isn't that a court question?
42:31
I don't know. Don't they ask?
42:32
That I've I've heard this but I don't.
42:34
Know, I don't know. OK.
42:35
Anyway, OK, so first of all, wait, say that one more time.
42:43
Do you now believe that the Illuminati exist today?
42:46
That they didn't? Yes, yeah.
42:49
Absolutely. Because here's the deal.
42:52
If they were able to form a secret society hundreds of years
42:57
ago and potentially be part of the cause of the French
43:03
Revolution and maybe part of the American expansion and
43:09
revolution, I don't think they just vaporize in modern society.
43:15
And you referenced some very powerful individuals who have
43:19
long been connected with the Illuminati.
43:24
Long because you said Jay-Z. And I just want you to know, in
43:28
the 90s when I was listening to his raps, he was saying stuff
43:33
about the Illuminati and his raps.
43:35
So was DJ Clue or Cluminati back in a similar era.
43:40
And it's not. It's not limited to them too.
43:44
Yeah, I don't know if DJ Clue is.
43:46
The Illuminati were also a pretty large part of pop culture
43:49
in the 90s. There was like I remember there
43:53
were like TV episodes where they would get referenced and stuff.
43:58
They were part of a cartoon I liked growing up.
44:01
They were the arch enemy of the gargoyles, which clearly were
44:05
real as well. And and there was at least 1X
44:12
files episode about the Illuminati.
44:15
And I'm just saying, I mean, how do you how do you say they are
44:19
gone? There's no, you can't actually
44:21
prove that. First of all, because if they
44:23
decided to go underground, they're going underground,
44:26
especially if they have a big old network that spans the
44:29
globe. What if they really are behind
44:32
the scenes twist and dials here and there for the light amber,
44:37
for the for the betterment of all of us?
44:41
Yeah, yeah. What if pyramid power official
44:44
actually is Pyramid power official?
44:48
Feel like there's a chance they're not in there or maybe
44:50
trying to get a little scam going on.
44:53
But but I think the Illuminati themselves probably didn't stop
44:58
being an organization, much like the Masons are still around
45:01
today. And a lot of the societies that
45:07
were around back then that were integrated into our universities
45:11
still exist as well. Other secret societies known to
45:16
be intertwined with institutions like Harvard and Yale, they're
45:21
still around, still secret. So you don't get to find out who
45:24
they are, but those types of folks also have been associated
45:29
with Illuminati and integrated into our politics and business
45:35
centers and Wall Street and places of fame, wealth, power
45:42
and glory, much like we were offered a scant few days ago,
45:48
right. So I will say that there is for
45:53
sure real Illuminati still happening today.
45:57
Maybe it wasn't the person that tried to get us on TikTok.
46:02
And they did a fine job, I believe, of using AI to make
46:06
their speech sound good. I kind of agree with a lot of
46:11
the things they said. It was like, you know, let's be
46:13
uplifting and help people. I was like, yeah, that's good
46:16
stuff, man. But then they wanted us to get
46:20
off of the TikTok and install some other app with secure
46:24
communication. Wild guess they were gonna ask
46:27
for sensitive information. What if they were gonna give us
46:30
sensitive information? We don't know.
46:34
We don't know. But I think, yeah.
46:36
I think the answer is yeah, they're real.
46:38
OK, interested to hear your research point of view.
46:42
I'm gonna say they're not right, but I'm gonna claim a membership
46:47
because someone told me I have it.
46:49
We're in the light. But the reason I don't think
46:52
they are is because clearly their head man was he thought he
46:58
was brighter than he was, right? Like the hiding of all their
47:02
very important secretive documents, all of that.
47:04
Like they're like, we got these people.
47:08
And I always think that it is. It's pretty common for people to
47:12
who are evil to say, look at those evil folks, right?
47:17
And and if there's a problem, they're gonna be like, but
47:19
remember those old evil folks, I think they're involved, right?
47:21
So not that I don't believe secret society is a strong word
47:25
like a society strong word. However, I do believe that there
47:30
are certainly, you know, people who are behind the scenes.
47:33
We know this, right? Like there are people who are
47:35
making deals and you know, behind closed doors that are
47:39
affecting the world, right? I get that.
47:42
I believe that. I don't think the Illuminati is
47:46
one of them. I was so excited when we got
47:49
this invite, not because I believe in the Illuminati, but I
47:52
love scams, right? Like there's this whole podcast
47:55
I listen to like a religion called scam Goddess.
48:00
And actually, when I was doing this, I when when I got that
48:03
message, I thought, I cannot wait to write this into her,
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right? Because I like a letter, a
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letter, of course, a letter because clearly I like to do
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that as well. I love, you know, giving this
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information out there. You get on there.
48:16
Oh, so here's the thing. And the second they were asking
48:20
me to go to another platform, I want to know what they're
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looking for, right? I kind of want to install the
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app and see what if they're going to.
48:28
What's the next? What?
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If you could just get some more good nice strings of text.
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I know I'm really looking for. I might actually do that for
48:36
research purposes. If it asks me for, I just might
48:40
do that because it's just that's killing me.
48:42
Like what is the goal here? Obviously you want.
48:44
Something I think the rules are so long as you don't press on a
48:47
link, yeah. Or download a file they send
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you. Yeah.
48:50
Yeah. Or obviously give up any
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personal information, that's sort of a no brainer.
48:55
But if you stay away from clicky things and linky things, I mean,
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maybe that next level, what do they call it, a board member?
49:03
Yeah, maybe the board member. Maybe they've got some new some
49:06
new pieces of info to lay down on us that are like, oh snap.
49:10
I'm excited to follow this one down and I really I.
49:13
If we do, you have to put it in the in the notes of the episode.
49:18
Or maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe there'll be a follow up episode.
49:21
I don't know. Maybe not.
49:22
If it's good enough. If it's.
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Like we actually joined the Illuminati.
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Only for our listeners. It'll be a secret episode.
49:32
We could call it the secret episode.
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Good. Yeah, yeah.
49:36
But y'all are here at this point cuz no one has told us we have
49:39
to be secretive about it. That's true.
49:41
So, you know, I kind of feel like we haven't, we haven't
49:43
broken any possible rules. If we don't have episode 21,
49:48
maybe that's a sign that they are real.
49:52
I don't know. But I said, no, I don't think
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they're real. I think there'd be other signs.
49:57
I don't think that Beyoncé and Jay-Z and Rihanna, I don't think
50:02
that they're like behind in this evil cuz right, that's the
50:05
concept is that they're evil. I don't think they're doing any
50:08
of that. I think that sometimes people
50:10
are like, oh, but how did you get rich?
50:12
You shouldn't have that. For whatever reason.
50:15
Maybe, you know, like we don't think that you should be able to
50:18
have that, so you must. Be Illuminati because they were
50:22
connecting powerful individuals. Right, that's that is the
50:26
concept. But anyhow, I don't believe it's
50:28
true, but I am more than happy to claim it.
50:33
I've been offered it and I I'm more than happy to continue down
50:40
and, and, and maybe, you know, continue down this road to see
50:43
what else they have. But that's our fight.
50:44
Do you really believe in the Illuminati?
50:47
Obviously we had proof here today for you.
50:49
But even in reading that I think it's a scam.
50:52
But what if it's not right, Luke?
50:55
What if it's not it's? Clearly a scam.
50:58
I know, it's so fun. But that doesn't make your quit.
51:00
Are the Illuminati still there? Yeah.
51:03
OK, I'm saying no, but there there's our fight.
51:07
So what? What have we got to do now?
51:09
I mean, obviously we shared that information, but now we need
51:12
something from you. We need you people to share our
51:16
information, yes, with all of your friends and family and tell
51:19
them to go watch our podcast because it's great, right?
51:23
We're funny on video. Yeah, we're cuter on video.
51:27
I mean, I don't care if you watch us, listen is most
51:30
important. Well, that's yeah, obviously,
51:33
but you can also see our faces if you so choose, right?
51:36
And give us a like, follow us on any of our social medias slash
51:42
Spotify, which is where we host the podcast and download it and
51:49
whatever else to get us out there in front of more people.
51:52
Yeah, yeah. We're just trying to spread a
51:54
little love. Right, right.
51:56
A. Little bit of funny.
51:58
I think we're gonna. A little bit of argue, yeah,
52:00
sometimes I get a little hot. Sometimes not.
52:02
Today Today was pretty chill. Today was fun, I really enjoyed
52:06
today's topic so yeah please share this.
52:10
I think obviously someone must have shared it to the right
52:13
people cuz. We are in the light.
52:15
Cuz we're in the light. And if maybe you want to be in
52:17
the light, maybe you want to invite, hey, like that would be
52:20
the that would be the Illuminati way is to share this with
52:24
everybody. So awesome.
52:25
So much. See you next time, people.