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In Brazil, Anatomy of a Steal · John’s Newsletter

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  SPEAKER_00: Good morning,
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  SPEAKER_00: everyone,
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  SPEAKER_00: and welcome to Around the world in 20 minutes,
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  SPEAKER_00: where we try to explain the beguiling new planet we find ourselves on.
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  SPEAKER_00: And please do give.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am off in about a week to Washington for three months and will,
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  SPEAKER_00: of course, take the community with me for all our adventures.
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  SPEAKER_00: Should be a really exciting time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tens of thousands of you are going through the site regularly.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're incredibly honored by that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You guys know I don't say these words lightly.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am not a conspiracist, and indeed I worry about, as Richard Hofstadter put it,
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  SPEAKER_00: The paranoid style of the populist right.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is no doubt we tend toward conspiracy theories.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm always poo-pooing them.
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  SPEAKER_00: But here we have a case that we do not need Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson to solve.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's both selfishness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cynical and straightforward,
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  SPEAKER_00: despite the fact that Ursula von der Leyen already has said it's wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lula won another victory for the folks at Davos,
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  SPEAKER_00: the World Economic Forum,
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  SPEAKER_00: the Zannie Mitten-Bettos, the egregious midwit editor who's ruined the economy.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had Simon Cooper go after me.
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  SPEAKER_00: From the FT who just discovered after being in a coma for 20 years
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  SPEAKER_00: that France is ungovernable,
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  SPEAKER_00: not the fault of the elite,
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  SPEAKER_00: despite no growth over 20 years,
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  SPEAKER_00: 80 quarters, unfettered, unassimilated immigration and insane energy prices.
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  SPEAKER_00: As his friends at the FT,
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  SPEAKER_00: the handmaiden of the establishment,
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  SPEAKER_00: rather than holding truth to power, they're a propaganda arm of the establishment.
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  SPEAKER_00: And rather than dealing with things as they are,
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  SPEAKER_00: working for an establishment that has to explain why they worshipped Greta Thurne.
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  SPEAKER_00: All this over the weekend, these are tiny dots telling you that they're not going to, quote,
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  SPEAKER_00: The establishment with their backs up against the wall are not going to go gentle
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  SPEAKER_00: into that good night.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're going to do everything they can to retain their position in power.
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  SPEAKER_00: The guy who cuts in front of me He thinks he's owed that room despite the fact
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  SPEAKER_00: that he caused as an ambassador,
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  SPEAKER_00: partly the Libyan debacle that led to the Al-Qaeda and ISIS being in Libya,
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  SPEAKER_00: and he was behind that in his Hillary Clinton-like Wilsonian nation-building way,
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  SPEAKER_00: but he still deserves a better room than the rest of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not underestimate how self-regarding these people are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Instead,
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  SPEAKER_00: just have a look at Zannie Mitten-Bettos ruining The Economist
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  SPEAKER_00: and her reputation this weekend as she works for, of course.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who else?
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  SPEAKER_00: Chairs a meeting, interviewing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who else?
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  SPEAKER_00: Jamie Dimon and her at the World Economic Forum.
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  SPEAKER_00: At least Jamie Dimon said some interesting things.
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  SPEAKER_00: She is merely a handmaiden for a failing elite, and they will do anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anything, including cheat and steal to keep their place.
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  SPEAKER_00: They can't steal an election like the French one that's overwhelmingly against them.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I don't want to lose every vote as a populist that's 51-49 or 52-48 for the rest.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I now, and I'm speaking after talking to our lawyers, will speak clearly.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think the election in Brazil was stolen.
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  SPEAKER_00: I say this with no malice of any kind,
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  SPEAKER_00: and that is my assertion that I will now back up with facts.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can dispute my facts, but you cannot dispute my good faith in making this conclusion there.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've used the First Amendment to cover myself and actually tell you the truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: One more thing about Jefferson and a personal note.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm very excited to be going back to Washington and taking the gang with me.
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  SPEAKER_00: You all are coming along for our adventures as realists get ready after the midterms for 2028.
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  SPEAKER_00: An exciting time to be there on board.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank God some people still actually want to be right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we are benefiting from that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But
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  SPEAKER_00: Another reason I'm excited to go home is a personal one.
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  SPEAKER_00: My partner in crime in the Dead Realist Society and old friend,
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  SPEAKER_00: John Goodnight, is getting married.
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  SPEAKER_00: And to the right person,
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  SPEAKER_00: he and Rochelle will get married at my favorite place in Washington,
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  SPEAKER_00: the Jefferson Memorial.
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  SPEAKER_00: And around that memorial,
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember when I was eight going there with my mom and dad from Ohio,
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  SPEAKER_00: from Rocky River, and going there and reading what was around the dome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which, of course, mirrors the dome at Monticello, Italianate in style.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's a view,
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  SPEAKER_00: by the way,
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  SPEAKER_00: in the Capitol,
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  SPEAKER_00: those of you who are not D.C. people,
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  SPEAKER_00: from the White House to Jefferson's memorial,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it's said that Mr. Jefferson is keeping an eye on the president.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it says around the side,
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  SPEAKER_00: our champion of our civil liberties,
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  SPEAKER_00: the inspirer of the Bill of Rights,
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  SPEAKER_00: it says,
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  SPEAKER_00: I have sworn upon the altar of God,
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  SPEAKER_00: eternal hostility against every Now,
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know exactly what that meant when I was eight.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is an outrageous attempt by a failing center-left establishment to prop
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  SPEAKER_00: What shouldn't be propped up to tolerate the intolerable.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lula in this third term has been a Joe Biden tribute band.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's no longer the vigorous leftist populist who came up with Bolsa Familia, the policy program.
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  SPEAKER_00: The mineral riches Brazil had made by trading with China and set up
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  SPEAKER_00: an effective safety net for the poor,
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  SPEAKER_00: which has made Lula revered and a very effective leftist populist.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't agree with him, but again, I'm a historian.
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  SPEAKER_00: I follow the ball,
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  SPEAKER_00: not the man,
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  SPEAKER_00: unlike Zannie Minton Beddoes and Simon Cooper and the rest of the sorry crew.
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  SPEAKER_00: I voted for a Democrat for president.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's ask anyone there if they've ever voted for anyone on the right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I doubt it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But Lula is no longer this leftist giant.
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  SPEAKER_00: Instead, he's doing a Joe Biden impersonation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Corruption swirls around him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Supreme Court justices he's put in place.
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  SPEAKER_00: DeMarais,
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  SPEAKER_00: the worst of the bunch,
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  SPEAKER_00: who certainly doesn't understand Jefferson or a Bill You see his son's been involved
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  SPEAKER_00: in some corruption and generally he's been tainted by association,
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  SPEAKER_00: though he himself has not been implicated in any way,
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  SPEAKER_00: but he's just not done very much.
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  SPEAKER_00: The guy's 80 years old.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think he's had brain surgery twice.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it shows.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, at 80,
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  SPEAKER_00: you should be playing with your grandchildren,
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  SPEAKER_00: not trying to run a serious country like Brazil.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this seemed a possibility of a populist rightist pickup in Flavio Bolsonaro,
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  SPEAKER_00: the son of Jair Bolsonaro.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in the first draft,
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  SPEAKER_00: There was a shock result that we talked about where Bolsonaro,
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  SPEAKER_00: who was expected to be slightly behind,
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  SPEAKER_00: but neither were going to get to the magical 50.
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  SPEAKER_00: Brazilian elections are a bit like the French ones.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you don't get to 50 in the first round, there is a second round.
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  SPEAKER_00: In this case, though,
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  SPEAKER_00: So the thinking was that Bolsonaro would lose narrowly to Lula,
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  SPEAKER_00: but that most of the rest of the small parties are on the right and that it would be
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  SPEAKER_00: a dogfight, a 50-50 kind of dogfight in the second round.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's not what happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: First round, Bolsonaro actually won 47% to 45%.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the rest of the votes, these smaller parties, were all on the populist right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they're either going to vote for Bolsonaro or they're not going to vote at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: In either case, it was overwhelmingly likely that Bolsonaro would be president, as I said.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yet, he's not today.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, the economist, who else?
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  SPEAKER_00: Ursula von der Leyen...
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to think the usual suspects have all congratulated Lula on an amazing victory.
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  SPEAKER_00: 52-48.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think amazing is an interesting word.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, I'm not in favor.
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  SPEAKER_00: I play the ball and not the man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not in favor of conspiracies.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm constantly talking them down in the populist right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But here is a conspiracy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again,
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  SPEAKER_00: to keep our lawyers happy who were profusely sweating this morning,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think this election was stolen by Lula and his supporters.
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  SPEAKER_00: I say that without malice or prejudice,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I am now going to give you the argument as to why I think that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what this proves,
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  SPEAKER_00: we'll start at the end,
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  SPEAKER_00: is that this is an establishment that is not going to,
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  SPEAKER_00: to quote Dylan Thomas, go gentle into that good night.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're going to lie, cheat, and steal where they can.
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  SPEAKER_00: We, to finish the Dylan Thomas quote, must rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what we must do as Jeffersonians.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're counting on our apathy and the EU thing, just kind of getting them over the line.
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  SPEAKER_00: But here's the argument I would make as to why this election was stolen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Four simple points.
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  SPEAKER_00: Judicial rulings on federal elections are made in Brazil by
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  SPEAKER_00: the Supreme Electoral Tribunal, TSE, using the Portuguese acronym.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like many countries,
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  SPEAKER_00: there is a judicial body that adjudicates any election irregularities
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  SPEAKER_00: or claims called the Supreme Electoral Tribunal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lula cited transportation problems as a reason to get the Supreme Electoral Tribunal
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  SPEAKER_00: to extend voting hours.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now,
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  SPEAKER_00: the transport problems revolve around the fact that on days of national elections
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  SPEAKER_00: in Brazil,
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  SPEAKER_00: there is supposed to be free transport to get people to and from the election polls.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is to help poor people be able to vote.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't have to pay money to go to the polls.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, who controls transport in Brazil, would you guess?
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  SPEAKER_00: Lula, he's the president.
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  SPEAKER_00: His minions run Brazil.
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  SPEAKER_00: But they're transport problems.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so because of this, Lula goes to the Supreme Electoral Tribunal as he is supposed to.
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  SPEAKER_00: But they don't rule quickly.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not sure what to do, and time is running out.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Lula's government,
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  SPEAKER_00: instead of waiting for the ruling of the Supreme Electoral Tribunal,
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  SPEAKER_00: as constitutionally they're supposed to,
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  SPEAKER_00: instead he skips that step and goes to a Supreme Court Justice, Cristiano Zanin.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can go to any justice after you've been through that process.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can then appeal to the Supreme Court.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he skipped the step of the Supreme Electoral Tribunal ruling,
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  SPEAKER_00: And instead,
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  SPEAKER_00: he went to a Supreme Court justice who ordered the polls to remain open
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  SPEAKER_00: for two more hours without any ruling of any kind by the lower court,
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  SPEAKER_00: the Supreme Electoral Tribunal, obviously.
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  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, this is unconstitutional.
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  SPEAKER_00: More interestingly, Cristiano Zanin is not some innocent bystander.
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  SPEAKER_00: You literally can't make this up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is why we don't need Sherlock Holmes to figure out this mystery.
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  SPEAKER_00: Zanin.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shannon used to be, before he was a Supreme Court justice, a well-known defense lawyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was Lula's defense lawyer during Lula's corruption cases,
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  SPEAKER_00: which he initially lost and was jailed, and then were overturned on a technicality.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Lula's personal lawyer,
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  SPEAKER_00: he doesn't get the ruling he likes,
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  SPEAKER_00: he gets no ruling,
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  SPEAKER_00: he skips that step,
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  SPEAKER_00: goes to the Supreme Court,
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  SPEAKER_00: goes to his former personal lawyer,
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  SPEAKER_00: who does exactly what Lula wants, and leaves there to be two more hours for voting.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's step one on the outrageous notion.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, second, you need to know how the polling actually works in Brazil.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it works like this, that there's software involved.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when the poll comes to an end,
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  SPEAKER_00: when the time is out,
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  SPEAKER_00: the election officials turn off the polling mechanism and it cannot be turned
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  SPEAKER_00: on again.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's an effort to safeguard the voting.
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  SPEAKER_00: That all makes perfect sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: And two minutes after the voting was to be done,
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  SPEAKER_00: the judge ordered that any precinct still operating,
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  SPEAKER_00: two minutes after the election is done,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: while people are closing up shop,
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  SPEAKER_00: if their polls are still there and remain open, they must leave them open.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, to give CNN credit,
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  SPEAKER_00: they reported 80% of the polls were closed at two minutes after the hour,
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  SPEAKER_00: because usually,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I've actually been an election observer in the Balkans in my youth,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was a Interesting story.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's funny because I got out of it in one piece.
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  SPEAKER_00: But
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  SPEAKER_00: Most of the polls trickle out, and so you close directly on time because nobody's there.
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  SPEAKER_00: They've all voted already.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so 80% of CNN reported in Brazilian polls, they're shut at two minutes after the hour.
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  SPEAKER_00: But Lula's precinct captains were aware.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they waited for that request to be granted.
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  SPEAKER_00: So of the 20% of polls still operating,
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  SPEAKER_00: Lula's people were dragging their feet in a Brazilian way just a little bit
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  SPEAKER_00: so they could extend the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: All this was unbeknownst to Bolsonaro's people.
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  SPEAKER_00: So with these extra two hours, you see the results begin to change.
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  SPEAKER_00: His former lawyer on the Supreme Court, no,
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  SPEAKER_00: you can't make this stuff up,
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  SPEAKER_00: though it doesn't stop the Guardian from declaring,
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's just despicable, that woman.
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  SPEAKER_00: Despicable.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's Orwell now.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're just lying.
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  SPEAKER_00: They'll do and say anything to stay in power, and we must be ready for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he puts his lawyer in the court.
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  SPEAKER_00: He does this ruling.
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  SPEAKER_00: Things are extended in the 20% of polls still open for two hours.
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  SPEAKER_00: You skip the lower court ruling that should decide it and then appeal.
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  SPEAKER_00: You skip the rule of law.
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  SPEAKER_00: You go to your buddy who was your lawyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your precinct captains are ready and you wait for this to go on.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is rigging an election.
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  SPEAKER_00: They wait until pro-Flavio precincts are closed and cannot be reopened because of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then...
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  SPEAKER_00: They only deal with the pole still open, which are pro-Lula, and you get the magical result.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the anatomy of a steal.
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  SPEAKER_00: But they're not Professor Moriarty.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're not dealing, again, we're using Sherlock Holmes today.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're not dealing with a Napoleon of crime out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've read every story of Sherlock Holmes.
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  SPEAKER_00: They are wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_00: At some point, we should do them.
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  SPEAKER_00: My uncle and I, who live far away, gave wonderful Christmas presents and won Christmas as a kid.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got the old drawings from the Strand newspaper of all the Sherlock Holmes stories.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've read them all through, I think three times at least.
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  SPEAKER_00: Precisely because he uses logic and a good bit of brandy with Watson.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hanging out in 221B Baker Street where I've taken Sarah and the kids,
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  SPEAKER_00: my favorite cab driver in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dan, my great friend in London, my personal London cabbie and often a fan of our show.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Dan, if you're listening, I miss our hanging out.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've known Danny's been a good friend for 20 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: We went to see 221B Baker Street,
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  SPEAKER_00: the idea of using logic to get around idiocy, midwittery and downright evil.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's what this is, because this isn't amusing.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is avoidance.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is an establishment who will lie and cheat and steal to stay in power at almost any cost.
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  SPEAKER_00: We who believe in the Jeffersonian process must fight them, must not be apathetic.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I want to single out a group that I don't normally.
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  SPEAKER_00: The New
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  SPEAKER_00: York Times, of all people, have said there are election irregularities here.
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  SPEAKER_00: There might need to be an annulment of the vote and a new vote
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  SPEAKER_00: because these irregularities aren't.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, they didn't go into the detail I just did with you, but they at least mentioned it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And full marks to them for mentioning it,
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  SPEAKER_00: for caring about the Jeffersonian process more than cheerleading
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  SPEAKER_00: for their establishment buddy, the faded, jaded Lula.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what we need both sides to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: People of goodwill to acknowledge in Aristotle's term, the basis to logic.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is, is I don't believe in postmodernism.
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  SPEAKER_00: The bucket that Mandela just kicked over next to me is a bucket.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not a construct of my thinking.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's real.
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  SPEAKER_00: The minute we moved away from that to French philosophical thinkers,
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  SPEAKER_00: you get the France of today, where money isn't real.
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  SPEAKER_00: Consequences aren't real, but you know what they are.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what Lula just did must have consequences.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let me finish the Dylan Thomas quote.
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  SPEAKER_00: They may not go gentle into that good night,
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  SPEAKER_00: but we must rage rage against the dying of the light.
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  SPEAKER_00: We must in a Jeffersonian way not accept this nonsense as
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  SPEAKER_00: the desperate elite does anything it can.
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  SPEAKER_00: Crawling with its claw marks on the wall as it's led out of the room and thrown on
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: the ash heap of history, which it so richly deserves.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be back on this one, maybe today, maybe soon.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: But keep faith with us by giving as we keep faith with you.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: From Mandela and myself, have a great day.