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The Ron Verb Show - 4pm Hour - Thursday, 08/13/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so 4.07 on a Thursday afternoon, NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Ron Verb, we conversate till 5, legal show, courtesy Beatrice
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  Speaker 2: Kopp tonight, 5 to 6. Money talks with John Arnold
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  Speaker 2: then tonight, 6 to 7. Talking with State Rep Dave Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: He's broadcasting live on his phone for me from the
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  Speaker 2: county fair in Ashtabula. Ohio. So he's making a round.
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  Speaker 2: Where were you? You were at where?
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  Speaker 3: The Trumbull County Fair a couple weeks ago. And I
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  Speaker 3: still have not made it to the Canfield Fair, but
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  Speaker 3: I went to this year.
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  Speaker 2: And so you're making the rounds of the fairs as
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  Speaker 2: state rep. So let's start from scratch here as we
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  Speaker 2: start at 4 o'clock. Some people in Mahoning and Trouble Counties, well,
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  Speaker 2: we're told it's going to be late in getting your
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  Speaker 2: tax bills. It's because Meacham and the crew have to
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  Speaker 2: figure out with the rules that you guys passed, which
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  Speaker 2: says the re-evaluations... will be tied to the rate of inflation,
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  Speaker 2: not the 25% or 30%, correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the tax side, what folks will see on their
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  Speaker 3: tax bills, is now tied to inflation. Values will still
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  Speaker 3: move however values move.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll still go up.
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  Speaker 3: But your actual tax increases, yep, yep, those are now capped.
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  Speaker 3: We've kind of separated values from taxes. And you start
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  Speaker 3: that second half of this year, so what you've been
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  Speaker 3: paying to your schools, now you're actually going to get
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  Speaker 3: money back for taxes. what I call overpaying the schools
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  Speaker 3: from all those huge increases over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It just takes a while to actually calculate. That's why
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  Speaker 3: they're a little bit delayed, but they will be coming,
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  Speaker 3: and folks will see that decrease, and that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: just why the delay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So many changes from our bills.
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  Speaker 2: But even with the re-evaluations coming up, your property taxes
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  Speaker 2: will still go up, just not as much as... before
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  Speaker 2: you pass this legislation.
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  Speaker 3: Correct. There's, there's that concept where it will still increase
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  Speaker 3: with inflation. Now, Trumbull and Mahoning, their commissioners passed the
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  Speaker 3: piggyback for the owner occupancy credit. So folks will see
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  Speaker 3: a higher credit of their owner occupancy. We'll see more
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  Speaker 3: of a decrease there. So there actually is a possibility
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  Speaker 3: if you don't pass any new levies, which I always
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  Speaker 3: remind folks, vote no. Um, then there's a good possibility
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  Speaker 3: that your taxes will stay relatively the same, or some
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  Speaker 3: it could actually even go down.
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  Speaker 2: Right, as long as you vote no on any additional money.
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  Speaker 2: That would be the key, obviously, if not. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so that's what's going on. Any other news with property taxes?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about it for right now. All the levies
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  Speaker 3: are certified now, so folks can actually see them. If
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  Speaker 3: you go to your Board of Elections websites, People can
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  Speaker 3: start looking at what's going to be on your ballot,
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  Speaker 3: what will be the question in front of you. I
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  Speaker 3: encourage everyone, go see what levies are going to be
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  Speaker 3: up there, ask the questions, learn about it before you
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  Speaker 3: get to your ballot, and then really tell other people
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  Speaker 3: about it. The folks don't know, or if they think, well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to vote for candidates or for the governor,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to stay home. If they don't go
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  Speaker 3: and vote with levies, we know what happens to them
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  Speaker 3: with passages. That's really important, too.
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  Speaker 2: All right, but they can't find out if this levy
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  Speaker 2: would pass what it would mean for an increase on
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  Speaker 2: their specific property, right?
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not sure if Trumbull or Mahoning has an estimator,
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  Speaker 3: but like Ashtabula, for example, we have a levy estimator
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  Speaker 3: that you can actually see for my specific property, here's
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  Speaker 3: how much this levy will cost me, and that's a
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  Speaker 3: pretty helpful tool. But one kind of rule of thumb
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  Speaker 3: for every one mil of a new levy it's $ 35
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  Speaker 3: for $ 100, 000 of value. So if you've got a $ 200, 000 home,
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  Speaker 3: one mil new levy, it's going to cost you $ 70.
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  Speaker 3: That's a little rule of thumb, but Mahoning and Trumbull
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  Speaker 3: will have information that folks can reach out to their
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  Speaker 3: offices to it.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Because, I mean, people in the city of Canfield
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  Speaker 2: are facing a huge school levy as well as the–
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  Speaker 2: MRDD levy. That's another big levy. I mean, two big
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  Speaker 2: levies that are going on, plus other, depending on your community,
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  Speaker 2: other levies that might be out there, depending on what
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  Speaker 2: the levy's for and what it's all about. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So basically, that's where we are as far as property taxes.
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  Speaker 2: What else is going on in the state? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you got any news on other issues? Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So you probably have heard Vivek and Amy Acton both
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  Speaker 3: kind of released their uh, data center plan. Um, and
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of what they're now campaigning on for what
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  Speaker 3: they want to see done on, on the data center question.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of, you know, being talked about a lot
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  Speaker 3: throughout the state. So they're very different plans. Um, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, we'll see kind of how folks respond to
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  Speaker 3: both of them and, and what that looks like.
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  Speaker 2: Have, uh, have you, uh, had a chance to look
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  Speaker 2: at them?
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So pretty much Amy Atkins plan would essentially, um, have
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot more regulation on them. She hasn't really
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  Speaker 3: changed the tax side of it. She kind of changes.
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  Speaker 3: They can only be put into brownfield areas. They can
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  Speaker 3: only have union labor. They can't shift their electricity costs.
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  Speaker 3: So it's pretty similar to what we were planning for
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  Speaker 3: House Bill 646, which was our reform bill. So Vague's
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  Speaker 3: plan kind of takes it a step further. And he says, hey,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a data center coming in, you have to
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  Speaker 3: benefit the community that you're coming to. This is kind
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  Speaker 3: of what we've been discussing. So his plan is, if
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  Speaker 3: they're coming in, no property tax abatements. Local government cannot
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  Speaker 3: provide a property tax abatement to the data center. His
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  Speaker 3: plan also calls for water restrictions, incentivizes for brownfields or
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  Speaker 3: warehouses where they would go instead of farmland or residential areas.
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  Speaker 3: And then the one unique thing about his plan talks
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  Speaker 3: about electricity and essentially says if the data center comes in,
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  Speaker 3: they have to provide their own power or build power
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  Speaker 3: to offset, and they have to make sure that the
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  Speaker 3: data center actually lowers people's electricity bills. That's either by
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  Speaker 3: them building their own power plant and supplying some electricity
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  Speaker 3: to the surrounding area, or he's even said they should
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  Speaker 3: be writing checks or some type of offset to those
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  Speaker 3: people people surrounding this and are in that town or
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  Speaker 3: township or community. So it's kind of a unique take
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  Speaker 3: on it. We'll see what people think of it. But
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  Speaker 3: I think the base plan really emphasizes we can have
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  Speaker 3: these and we can actually have them lower bills and
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  Speaker 3: benefit people and get kind of the best of both worlds.
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  Speaker 2: What do you make of the fact or so the polling?
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  Speaker 2: And incidentally, the polling was, boy, wrong in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these races that we just concluded. It wasn't even
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  Speaker 2: remotely close.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think Minnesota was the big one.
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  Speaker 2: It's just way off a lot of this polling, so
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  Speaker 2: it makes you hesitant when you say, well, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think about the polling that shows the governor's race
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  Speaker 2: neck and neck?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not, in all honesty, too surprised by it. I
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  Speaker 3: think I'm very worried about this year. But if you
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  Speaker 3: go back to 2018 with Mike DeWine versus Richard Cordray,
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  Speaker 3: DeWine only won that race by maybe 2%, 3%. it
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  Speaker 3: was a very close governor race. And I think we're
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  Speaker 3: in another kind of 2018 second year of president Trump's term,
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  Speaker 3: voter fatigue, frustrations. And if our voters don't get out
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  Speaker 3: to vote, then that is going to be really tight.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be probably close until
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  Speaker 3: maybe September, early October. And hopefully it starts to separate
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, but, um, I'm not too surprised by
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  Speaker 3: how close things are now.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you suspect it's so close?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, A handful of reasons. With me here at the fair,
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  Speaker 3: I love it because people come up and they talk.
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  Speaker 3: They share their feelings, their thoughts. Folks are frustrated. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of just disappointment out there right now. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of just feelings of, hey, things aren't going
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  Speaker 3: the right way. And I think that then leads to
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  Speaker 3: our side not wanting to vote or our side maybe
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  Speaker 3: skipping some of those seats. Amy Acton has stayed very
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  Speaker 3: quiet on a lot of actual policy issues. She's not
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  Speaker 3: really out in the public much with actual voters. She's
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  Speaker 3: doing a lot of staged things. So unless you know
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  Speaker 3: of her through COVID, you probably don't have really negative
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  Speaker 3: feelings towards her. And so that helps her numbers kind
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  Speaker 3: of stay inflated. And Vivek is so public, so out there.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone kind of knows who he is, what he stands for. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of negatives there, though. But
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  Speaker 3: I think it goes into a lot of the economy
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 6: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think with the Senate race with Sherrod Brown?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that one. Um, I am very worried about
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  Speaker 3: John Husted. Um, very worried about John Husted. Sheriff Brown
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  Speaker 3: is out there. I've seen, I've seen his campaign ads. Um,
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  Speaker 3: he's also being pretty protected right now in front of
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  Speaker 3: the public. Husted's doing a lot more interviews. He's talking
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  Speaker 3: to a lot more people, but if it's a, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if that's a vote on essentially how things are going
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  Speaker 3: in DC, um, then it's, it's going to be very tight. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of these will probably be decided
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  Speaker 3: by a point or two, 1% or 2%.
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  Speaker 2: Is that because of the gas prices and inflation and
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  Speaker 2: the Iran war? I mean, is that why you think
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  Speaker 2: so many of these things are going to be tight?
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  Speaker 2: The economy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a big piece of it. Folks
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  Speaker 3: typically vote with their wallet. And if they're not really
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  Speaker 3: all that happy right now, if things aren't looking positive,
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  Speaker 3: this is not like 2020 or 2016 when we had
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  Speaker 3: something really positive and and we were voting for and
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  Speaker 3: going with, and there's a lot of enthusiasm. If you
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  Speaker 3: look at the enthusiasm gaps, they're quite big. The Democrat
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  Speaker 3: side is heavily enthusiastic. Our side is not. I think
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  Speaker 3: a big piece of that is kind of just what's
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  Speaker 3: happening with the economy and gas prices, electricity. Even though
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  Speaker 3: a lot of that electricity especially was done under the Democrats,
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  Speaker 3: we're in charge now, and so we own that, and
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  Speaker 3: we're taking steps to fix it, but it takes time.
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  Speaker 3: And that's It's a difficult message to try to share
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  Speaker 3: to voters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, very interesting. So when you take a look, though,
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  Speaker 2: if the Democrats were running stuff, do you think we
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  Speaker 2: would have the reforms that you were able to get
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  Speaker 2: through when it comes to property taxes?
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  Speaker 3: If Democrats were running things in Ohio, we wouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: a 2.75% flat tax for income. We'd have, Amy Acton
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  Speaker 3: wants to go back to that nine-year income tax rates.
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  Speaker 3: where the top several are above 9%. She wants to
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  Speaker 3: see you pay a lot more in sales tax. She
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  Speaker 3: wants us to spend a whole lot more. She wants
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  Speaker 3: no coal. She wants renewables only. It's scary what they're
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  Speaker 3: actually standing for. It's just all the focus is on
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  Speaker 3: us and the current economy versus what they're actually pushing.
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  Speaker 2: So she would want to raise the sales tax? I mean, basically,
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  Speaker 2: she would want to tax everybody more.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 3: So her first year, we've kind of looked at her
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  Speaker 3: policies and priorities. Her first year, it's estimated that she
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  Speaker 3: would want to spend an additional $ 22 billion in state spending.
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  Speaker 3: And that is half of our state budget for the year.
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  Speaker 3: So she wants to spend things on, like... health insurance forgiveness,
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  Speaker 3: on loan forgiveness, on direct payments to Medicaid, on a
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  Speaker 3: whole host of things, more to governments on all different levels,
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  Speaker 3: more spending. So she is truly a bigger government priority person.
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  Speaker 3: That's who she's running as. And that's a very scary
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  Speaker 3: thing for our tax side because that money is going
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  Speaker 3: to have to come from somewhere. $ 22 billion has to
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  Speaker 3: come from somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Now, our sales tax in Mahoning County is 7.5% now.
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  Speaker 2: Bet you would want that to go up even higher.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that or I could see her removing some of
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  Speaker 3: the exemptions. So we have exemptions for food. We have
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  Speaker 3: the sales tax holiday. We have a full host of
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  Speaker 3: agriculture exemptions for farmers. I could see her removing those.
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  Speaker 3: I could see her trying to actually increase the sales tax.
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  Speaker 3: She's also talking about really opening up Ohio for gambling,
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  Speaker 3: online gambling. and then taking a lot of that extra
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  Speaker 3: revenue as well. That's not a tax, but we all
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  Speaker 3: know there's certain issues when you push and explode the
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  Speaker 3: gambling side as well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, really, who could vote for that? Who would
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  Speaker 2: vote to say, gee, we need a higher sales tax?
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  Speaker 2: That affects everybody.
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  Speaker 3: A higher income tax.
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  Speaker 2: A higher income tax, a higher sales tax, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to just spend more money as a state on
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  Speaker 2: all these crazy handout programs.
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  Speaker 6: Uh..
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  Speaker 3: I tell folks look at other states where these are
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  Speaker 3: being done look at virginia Minnesota look at new york
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  Speaker 3: this is the model that the state democrats are following
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  Speaker 3: and we we don't have to wonder what they do
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  Speaker 3: just look at those states and and the virginia governor
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  Speaker 3: got in as a moderate just like amy acton promises
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  Speaker 3: to be first thing she did a whole slew of
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  Speaker 3: tax increases restrictions on guns restrictions on certain first amendment
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  Speaker 3: rights just really fast action to move that liberal agenda that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, nowhere near her campaign, but as soon as
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  Speaker 3: they got in, that's what they acted on. So this
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  Speaker 3: is what we have to run against. This is what
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  Speaker 3: we have to vote for is the, you know, the vague,
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  Speaker 3: and you said all those folks, we can't, we can't
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  Speaker 3: just become complacent because right now the economy isn't, isn't
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  Speaker 3: doing as well.
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  Speaker 2: As we want it to.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Stand by. We'll come right back with the state rep,
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  Speaker 2: Dave Thomas on news radio, five 70, Dodie KVN. Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 2: All right, back to it. NewsRadio 570. With State Rep
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  Speaker 2: Dave Thomas on the end of our line. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Any comments or questions that you might have for Dave?
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  Speaker 2: Let me check a few things here, Dave, and see
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  Speaker 2: what's on my line. Might be for you, might not
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  Speaker 2: be for you. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 1: Ron?
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  Speaker 4: Yes. How are you?
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  Speaker 6: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: I got Dave Thomas. You want to stand by? Cause
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  Speaker 2: I got plenty to talk to you about. All right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to put her on standby. Uh, let me
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  Speaker 2: see here. Hello. I'll put them on standby. All right.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Dave. So what else do you have to
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  Speaker 2: share with us here before I.
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  Speaker 3: I'll leave you with a fun thing. So on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 3: the president was in Northeast Ohio. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you saw that or you heard about the Patriot games. Um,
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  Speaker 3: It was a super cool thing located in Ashtabula at Spire,
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  Speaker 3: which is an Olympic training facility. You started the Patriot Games,
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  Speaker 3: the celebration of 250. There were high school athletes from
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  Speaker 3: all over the country at the competitions. Thousands of people
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  Speaker 3: came in from across the country. It's actually going to
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  Speaker 3: be broadcast live tonight. I'm sorry, not live, but broadcast
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  Speaker 3: tonight on ABC at 9 o'clock. A good number of
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  Speaker 3: us were there on Tuesday, and just a really neat celebration.
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  Speaker 3: The kids were awesome. So a good, just a feel-good
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  Speaker 3: thing to celebrate the 250. So Northeast Ohio got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of publicity, a lot of positive accolades from all that,
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  Speaker 3: and folks should watch that tonight if they can at
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  Speaker 3: 9 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: There's Dave Thomas, and you should make sure you appear
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  Speaker 2: at the Canfield Fair this year. I think people would
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  Speaker 2: love to meet you. You've done a lot for all
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  Speaker 2: of us here. We appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Ron. Have a good day.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. That's Dave Thomas. All right, here's hot off
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  Speaker 2: of her bowling tour last night. It's the boss lady
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  Speaker 2: on my line we found out last night in an
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  Speaker 2: exclusive expose that the boss lady actually went bowling last night.
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  Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking, folks. Are you serious? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: She went bowling. She owns her own ball and shoes.
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  Speaker 2: Probably has a shirt that says, you know, rule market
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  Speaker 2: on the back of it.
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  Speaker 4: Lies, lies.
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  Speaker 2: Probably has. I know she has a shirt that's got
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  Speaker 2: to have the lettering for some company or organization on
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  Speaker 2: the back of it. She's got a great average of
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  Speaker 2: like 120, so... She's thrown a lot of gutter balls, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: And she's engaging on fried mushrooms and Diet Coke.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. You remembered all that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. This is very good. This is a whole
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  Speaker 2: other side, folks, of the boss lady that is just shocking,
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  Speaker 2: I think, to most of us.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not very good at bowling, but. I did listen
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  Speaker 4: to the polling meeting from last night and there were
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  Speaker 4: two and I do have a good update.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Here's supposed to be the polling meeting. This
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  Speaker 2: is polling township with.
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  Speaker 4: The polling township.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Go ahead with your thoughts. Now they're going
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  Speaker 2: to lay some people off. Give me give me your thoughts.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: What are they going to lay off? Three cops. Are
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: these full time cops?
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I would imagine so just because
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: they had a big gap, quite a bit of a
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: gap that they had to close, right, with a remaining only, what,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: three and a half months of the year. So I
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: would imagine to get to what they needed. You remember
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I talked to you and you remember you asked me
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: what would I do?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, and.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: And it sounds they did pretty much exactly what I
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: would do. I mean, they even are going to consider
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: the contract of the chief police. It's the one year contract.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: They're going to look at that again.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, now that you mention it, you did
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: say you'd make the administrator part time instead of full time.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: You look at the police chief's contract and lay off
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: these cops. I think. Go ahead.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: And the one, uh, the, the, the overlap that they
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: had in the other department and they did make a
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: cut there as well.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Zoning. Was it zoning?
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: A clerical that I referred to. I didn't know anything
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: about zoning or that there was an opportunity there.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So basically they followed your game plan that you talked
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: about on the air.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I don't know that they followed it exactly,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: but it's definitely what I said two weeks ago on
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: the air. Um, You know, the meeting was interesting, though.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: And this is what I thought was very interesting about it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if you got a chance to
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: see it. I mean, I read the article, but then
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I wanted to go back and watch it so I
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: could see the interaction. And Frank did a great job
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: of rolling out. He came with a complete, comprehensive... basically
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: an action plan, like did a whole thought analysis on
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: what needed to be done, what issues that he saw.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: And then they went into executive session. Ungaro did not
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: go to executive session. He didn't partake.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Sat there.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: He's like in denial.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he wouldn't partake in it. He voted no on
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: all of the changes that needed to be made except
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: for the clerical person.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Well, what was his plan then?
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: He didn't have one, but I thought it was very interesting.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I thought it was very, like, childish.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: Not..
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: That's the part that bothered me. It was kind of, like, scorned.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I didn't like his disposition. I mean, at the professional setting,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: if you don't want to like each other outside of
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: there or you've got an issue, I mean, you know...
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: But you're in, like, a professional setting. I mean, there
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: were people in the audience, a lot of people. Everybody
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: seemed receptive. I like the fact that Kempers, you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: seems like he's listening to what Frank is saying. And
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Frank has private sector experience, and he's talking to the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: chief fiscal officer. So, I mean, the two of them together,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: you know, they're talking real problem-solving. And so that was really...
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Good to see on one hand. On the other side,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I think that, and they did say they're going to
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: have to revisit, right? So they're going to do all
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: these changes. They're going to get through 2027, make nice, nice,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: balance the budget, be able to pay for what they can.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: And then they're going to look at, do they need
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: to put a levy on of some sort? But, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: and they're going to make the other changes. He also
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: brought up like, listen, about these receipts. You're not going
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: to turn in bills anymore. You need to turn in receipts.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: It was pretty good.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, and, Garo, this is weird. I don't know.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: It's weird. How do you opt out and don't go
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: into it? And the reason why Frank wanted to.
• 21:29
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• 21:31
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• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back. I want to address this
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: stuff in Poland Township with the boss lady here. So
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: my first reaction to all of this is, were any
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: of these trustees paying attention to the finances? I mean,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting back saying, how did it get to this
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: point in the first place?
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't they have been paying better attention?
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's obvious. I think Frankie summed it up yesterday
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: when he said, you know, prior years, you guys have
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: done everything that people wanted. And now we're at a
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: turning point where... We have nowhere else to draw from
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: to give it. And so, you know, you guys are
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: delivering on wants versus needs versus what people are willing
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: to pay.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: But the reality is, is it fair for me to
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: say that these all of these trustees weren't looking at
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the economics to put the township in that position to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: begin with?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, I absolutely agree with that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, clearly they collect a paycheck and they weren't
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: saying where are we financially when they were doing whatever
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: they were doing to put them in this dire situation. So,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would say all these trustees are to blame.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, all of these people involved in this situation,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: where were they prior to it being at this point?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: level of concern. I mean, if I back up on
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: you and I say that would be my number one point,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: my number two point would be you guys couldn't even
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: make the deadline to put a police levy on in
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: time to get one on in November ballots. You failed
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: to meet the deadline for a police levy. You failed
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to look ahead as far as where the finances were
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: going and how the problem that you helped create for
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the citizens of Poland Township. Do you agree with that?
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I do, and I also would like to know, what
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: was her name? Was it Wallet, or what was her name?
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: She was the woman who was there prior. I would
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: say the three of them with her, you know, the
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: two current Kempers, Angaro and her. Is that her name?
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: I think it was Wallet.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Was it Wallet?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I think so. Yeah, she's the one who, Frank B.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, they were painting walls and doing, I mean,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: just spiffing up places and buying furniture and all kinds of,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, they were, I think now we've got
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: somebody else in there who thinks a little bit differently,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: who thinks more like a business person and understands that
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: the pressure on the taxpayer at the end of the day.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: So hopefully it turns around here.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Right, but I mean, for example, Ungaro then last night,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you're saying, was, in your opinion, acting childlike, and he
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: didn't go along with any of these cuts? I mean,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: he didn't vote?
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: No.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Only one. Then what was his solution to the economic
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: problem going on right now?
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: When you avoid executive section, which is the reason why
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Frank asked for the executive section— He said, we're going
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: to break now. He left all the people who were
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: sitting there. We're going to go into executive session. So
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: basically everybody out will come back, right? Or they're going
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: to go upstairs and we'll, we're going to go upstairs
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: and discuss and we'll come back to the public. Ungaro
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: sat there like a child. They went up there and
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: talked to all the numbers, what all the cuts meant,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: how they were going to get whole. And they made
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: the decision on who was getting cut. Well, he didn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: want to participate in that. And he sat there like
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: a child.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So he didn't want to. Eric Angaro didn't want to
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: go up in executive session with these other two. I mean,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: obviously the financial problem is obvious, but he didn't want
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: to go. He didn't want to go up and sit
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: with the other two to figure out what to do
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to fix the problem that he was part of creating.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: No, it's almost a bad joke. Like you feel even
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: bad saying it because it's so stupid and common sense.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Like how do you not, How are you not participating
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: in that? Like, this was under your tutelage. Like, you've
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: been there, and you keep saying it. You keep telling
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: everybody how long you've been in there, and then now
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you're just going to not go into executive session and
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: figure out how to solve it because you don't want
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: your name attached to the cut? It's so immature and childish.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Well, what would his answer be to the problem if
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: he's not participating? Obviously, you're running out of money. You've
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: got to do something.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: God do something.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe he should have came up with a
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: comprehensive plan and delivered it just like Frank did. I mean,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: if he had an idea of something to do, he
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: probably should have brought it to the meeting and presented it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what I would have done. I would
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: have brought it... I wouldn't have sat back and waited
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: for the other two. You got to take the bull
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: by the horns and lead.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Lead.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Somebody lead. So... I was encouraged to at least, it
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: seemed like Kempers was agreeing something needs to be done.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: He was agreeing. Everybody's remorseful. Look, it's not good for
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: anybody that somebody had to lose their job. It's not
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: at all. That's sickening. It does make me feel sick
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: that somebody actually had to lose their job. But the
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: private sector doesn't exist to just pay for the jobs
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: that are not there. If they're not needed, they're not needed.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: They got to go.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: The problem is that Ungaro let it get to this point.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: They've brought these people on and they couldn't afford them.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: They're the reason why these people lost these jobs. They
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: shouldn't have these jobs.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: They shouldn't have hired him in the first place.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: They shouldn't have in the first place. So you disrupted
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: a person who was probably working somewhere else. Maybe they
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: were happy. Whatever they were doing, you bring them on
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: promising you've got money to pay them, right? Isn't that
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: a contract? If you hire me, I assume you've got
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: money to pay me, right? You've already done your due diligence.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: You've got a long-term strategy. That's a basic assumption of
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: when you get employed somewhere. Well, they didn't. And so
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I feel sorry for the people who got let go
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: because they really have been done wrong by the people
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: sitting in there continually expanding and didn't have the money
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: to pay it initially. And that's not good leadership. That's
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: not how you run a business. It's not how you
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: run anything that has to do with taxpayer dollars. Now
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I want to get to one more point with you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: I think you're done on that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: So I heard Dave Thomas talking about how Amy Acton,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: who's a train wreck, right, that she wants to spend
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: $ 22 billion on all this craziness and forgive this, forgive that,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: forgive this.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And raise the sales tax.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Now I'm going to tell you right now. I'm
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: going to say it on air. There is no way
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: in hell I would ever vote for Amy Acton. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: would absolutely, she's a train wreck, and I will support
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: a Republican candidate. But I say to him, Dave Thomas,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: if you're listening, I'd love to see the Republicans decide
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: instead of taking the $ 22 billion and do all these
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: social welfare programs, take the $ 22 billion abolish property taxes.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Because obviously it's there because she's ready to do something
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: else with it. Abolish property taxes, put 22 billion back
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: in the economy. And watch the state of Ohio turn
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: into the number one state in the union because this
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: economy will boom. You have 22 billion. You Republicans right
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: now could take a vote right now to change school funding.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: You could take a vote right now today to give
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: the money back to the taxpayer. And every time you
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: guys vote to increase legislation, you are literally crushing the
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: people who you represent because it's falling on the taxpayer.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: It's 61, 62% of all these levies are falling on
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: the taxpayer. So when you expand, that's.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: What you're doing.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: And I'd love to hear his response to that, but
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to go toe-to-toe with him today. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: do appreciate him because you know what?
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: He's working.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: At least he's working. Some of these other people aren't
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: doing a damn thing about anything. He's at least working hard.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I may disagree on what he targets. That's what he
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: needs to target. But they won't. They won't. They have
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: the power right now. They hold the keys to the kingdom.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: They should take a vote right now. Just need this
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: stupid school funding formula, which is a mess. That's another
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: call for another day because I've spent a lot of
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: time doing that. But if there's $ 22 billion for her
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: to do that with, then give the money back to
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: the darn taxpayers, abolish property taxes, and I'm telling you,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: this state will boom. You want $ 22 billion people shopping with?
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Watch what that happens. Watch what happens to this state.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But what he was saying is Amy Acton wants to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: increase taxes. She wants to increase the sales tax. That's
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: why she's a bad choice.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: That means there's $ 22 billion for the cake.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Where's it at?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Go get it. But she wants to take... increase the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: sales tax, which is already 7.5%. She wants to increase
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: it and potentially increase what you put the sales tax on,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: like groceries and stuff. But she wants to raise the
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: sales tax, expand maybe what you put a sales tax on.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: She wants to up the income tax. I'm not for her.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: You ain't going to get me to argue against her.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: No, but I mean, so her first plan is raising
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: taxes so that you can take this money from everybody
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: that's paying enough in taxes and dole it out for
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: all these government programs that she wants to start.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: They have at least $ 40 billion in the general fund.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: What is the general fund for? All your grants, all
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: your nonprofit donations, all this crap. Give the $ 22 billion.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: You guys have the power. They're sitting in office right now.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: They have the power to do it. That's what I
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: want to say. Honestly, it sickens me because I have
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: to draw it out because it is something that they
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: could do right now. And I hate to go against
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: them because the alternative is absolutely worse. I will say
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: the alternative is worse, people. So am I going to
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: vote for these Democrats? Heck no, never. But these guys
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: have the power to change it right now, and they're not.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: All right, but it's going to be interesting to see what.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I get an aye-aye, Captain. I get an aye-aye, Captain.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: The whole Ungaro thing is weird. That's just weird.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: It's so weird.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe somebody else will call in and give their take.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, why wouldn't you participate? Why wouldn't you go
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: up and, for whatever position you have, be a participant
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: in it? I don't understand that mentality at all. I
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: really don't. All right, so with that being said, what
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: did you bowl last night?
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Do you want to know the worst part about it?
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Because I rushed to bowling. It was our banquet night,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: and I thought we were bowling prior. And here, we
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: all got it wrong. That was our last bowl was
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: the week before. So I can't even brag to you
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: that I bowled a 165. It was just our banquet.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: So you went there with..
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: My team came in fifth place, though. I did tell
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: you that.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: You went there with ball in hand and shoes.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Ball and shoes. And my girlfriend is waving to me
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: as I'm carrying it all in the door. She goes,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: put it all back. We messed up. We don't even
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: bowl tonight. I'm like, what?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: It was a banquet for being in fifth place?
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: It was a banquet for all the bowlers.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: But you were in fifth place.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: That's a lot. That's good.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Out of how many teams?
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: Six?
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, over 20.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was in fifth place. You know, my interleague,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: we were in second place for the second half of
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: the year.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: On your bowling team, is it comprised of men and
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: women or just women?
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: No, just women.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Is there, like, any good bowlers on your team that
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: carry the load?
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, we all can bowl really well. They're more
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: consistent than I am, I think. Sometimes, you know, he's
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: like a 160 or I don't know, I think her
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: average is maybe a 150, 148. He's the best bowler
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: we have.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Do you try to sabotage your competition? Like when they're
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: standing at the line, do you fake a sneeze or
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: anything or a cough to try to distract them from
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: their bowling?
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: By the way, did you happen to see on the
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: news that the Patriot building was rented by, oh, I forget,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: some government organization. Well, some school, I should say, or something.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I forget. They rented the Patriot building out.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: Oh, really?
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: The Patriot building.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I was watching the news last night, and
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: they said all this talk about– the bottom dollar store
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: when it comes to the board of election location. Well,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the news last night, uh, was saying it's, I guess
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: they got an offer from potential developments to buy the bottom,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the bottom dollar store. And then, uh, the Patriot building,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: which was so foolishly, uh, given back, uh, was rented
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: out to, uh, I forget what organization it was. I
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: don't know if it has something to do with.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Uh, That Patriot building would have been great for the
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Board of Elections.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: It was a fantastic building. I mean, I was in
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: that building for years. Fantastic building. Great parking. Handicap accessible.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: To me, there's no excuse in the world how they
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: did that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get this idea that the Board
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: of Elections for the county, I don't think everything, we
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: should say everything's got to be in Youngstown when it
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: comes to the county. I think this is just ridiculous.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: I'd like to know how many people in the city
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: of Youngstown actually are voting. Why are we making all
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: these accommodations? What percentage is actually voting that we need
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: to accommodate to put in there? Because I vote downtown
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: in the city of Youngstown every year for everything. I
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: go downtown because I love early voting. I vote early
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: so I don't have to go in the lines on
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: election day. I vote in person early. It takes me
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: five minutes in and out.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Are you nervous that it might be on your bowling
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: night or something, the election? I'm just checking. Just checking. Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I like early vote, but yeah, that's a haul for me.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: What about all these other people in all these other areas?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Can't we put some of this stuff in Austintown and
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: in Boardman? Or frankly, in some of the other areas
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: in the county? I mean, it is the Mahoning County
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Board of Elections. Doesn't mean it has to be in
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the city of Youngstown. I mean, Moaning County, what about
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: all these other areas here?
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Austintown, Boardman would be a great spot. I don't think,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: and I honestly don't think Beatrice, and I would never
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: speak for an attorney, but I feel like he doesn't
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: really want to stay in the city of Youngstown. He
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: will if he can.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: No, I think he said last night on the news
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: he wanted to. Yeah, I don't get the mentality of it,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: but that's me. I mean, I would like to see
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: it spread out, let's put it that way. I mean,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: it was so convenient to get to the Patriot building
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: in and out, easy parking and that kind of stuff.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Would have been a great location, but somebody snagged that
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: building and apparently potential developers are going to buy the
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: bottom dollar store, which didn't have enough parking and that
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff anyway, so..
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: See, Ron, here's what we need to do. When you
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: retire and you lay down your mic, we're going to
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: run you for commissioner.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I'll be tough on crime and I'll lower your taxes.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Exactly. I already know what you're going to say.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: And guess what? I will have the Mahoning County Commissioner
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Bowling League. Yes, that's right.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: We will have shoes, bowling balls, and it will be
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: a mixed league, men and women, and qualifying rounds for
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: the Mahoning County Commissioner Bowling League. All right. Thank you, Auslady.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. All right. You're on the air. Hello? Well,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I guess you're not. you're on here. Oh, hello.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: Come on.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Speak. Come on.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going? Good.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: Hey, I just want to say like, I'm in total
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: disagreement with doing away with the property tax and replacing
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: it with a state sales tax. I don't think people
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: realize how much people, when they cut the state income tax,
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: if you're going to do a property tax, I would
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: say you don't raise the sales tax. You raise the
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: state income tax. Like, I'm going to use myself as
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: an example. So let's just say, like, I do pretty well. Like,
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: my family does pretty well. We were making, like, $ 600, 000
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: a year. I don't think people realize that, like, it
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: was 9%, and now it's 3%. So people like us
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: are saving $ 6, 000 per $ 100, 000 we make. So on an
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: annual basis, every year since they've done this, $ 36, 000 to
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: the good, $ 36, 000 to the good, $ 36, 000 to the good
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: that I'm not paying. So if my property tax goes
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: up a couple thousand dollars, I don't care because I'm up, okay,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: I'm still.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Up $ 34, 000, $ 34, 000.
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: Raise it again, whatever. I'm still up $ 32, 000, $ 32, 000, $ 32, 000.
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: But if you raise the state sales tax... Everyone, if
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: you're making $ 50, 000 a year, you're paying that money as
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: opposed to just raise the state income tax, maybe not
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: where it was if you don't want to, but you
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: could raise it a little bit. I mean, like, if
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: I'm saving $ 5, 000 or $ 4, 000 per $ 100, 000 make, I'm still
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: doing really well. Why should you, and I don't mean you,
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: Ron Burr, but in this instance, you, Ron Burr, are
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: making $ 40, 000. You shouldn't be burdened with that Because I'm
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: saving so much money because I'm lucky enough, you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: I do well. I'm saving $ 6, 000 per $ 100, 000 I make
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: because that's what people voted for. And now I want
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: you to pick up the slack because of the property tax.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: They should just tax them back onto the state income tax.
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: And then, like, we're already making and saving so much money.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: Like, why should you be burdened with that when you
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: only make 50 grand?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: So do you say to yourself, you don't want to
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: eliminate property taxes? Is that accurate?
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: I would never vote to eliminate property taxes, but if
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: they are eliminated, then I would say don't raise estate,
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: sell taxes. raise the income tax.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Okay. Just to clarify one thing, when Dave Thomas was
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: talking about Amy Acton wanting to raise the state sales tax,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with the property taxes. She
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: wanted to raise it for other stuff.
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't raise the sales tax. I would raise the
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: income tax. And I know people are against that, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: I just, in the long run, I don't think they
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: realize how much people with money are saving every year
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: on an annual basis. It's not like a big deal.
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: That's why, like, I don't think a lot of people
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: were going to vote to do it. They couldn't even
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: get it on the ballots. Like, I don't think anyone
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: doing well, even if you're making $ 200, 000 a year, you
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: know you're saving $ 12, 000 every year compared to.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: What you were.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: So even if they take $ 2, 000, you're still up $ 10, 000.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: They take two more four years from now, you're still up.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: $ 8, 000.
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: You're still to the good. You're not going to vote
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: to change a system that's working for you. Like, I
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: just don't understand the sales tax. Why are you going
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: to burden people not making money when you could just
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: put it on the people that are making money?
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: And if you don't want to.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: Go back to 9%, great. go back to seven. But
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: for the people, and I'm not like bashing your last caller,
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying I disagree with her for the simple
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: fact that if she's saying, okay, do a property tax,
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: the state will be booming because everyone's going to have
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: all this money. Well, everyone that was paying 9% that
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: is paying 3%, we have all this money. And you
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: see what I mean? I just think that argument is
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: flawed because we have an example of, okay, if I
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: give a bunch of people money back, Is the state
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: going to be booming? Well, you gave people back all
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: this money years ago. So why if you give me
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: $ 4, 000 more a year back in my property tax, do
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: you think the state is going to be booming when
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: you're already giving.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Me $ 30, 000.
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: Back compared to what I used to pay? Like that
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: extra $ 4, 000, okay, great, I'll take it if you're going
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: to give it to me, but it's not going to
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: make my life different that $ 4, 000, okay, great, I have
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: $ 4, 000 more, but not being mean, but I don't need it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: Like, I just think it's, I think that's the wrong
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: way to go about it. You should be helping the
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: people at the bottom and in the middle that are
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: struggling to not become the people at the bottom, as
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: opposed to like, Hey, you already got so much money.
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna give you four more thousand and then have
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: some fantasy that like, now you're going to spend so
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: much more than you already do. Like I can only,
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: you know, we can only spend so much money. I'll work,
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: you know, you just use your money to make more
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: money to make more money in the market, you know?
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: every year. So I just think that's a flawed argument
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: that if I give you more money back, it's going
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: to make the state better.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: What advice would you give our listeners or younger people
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: that are out there? You became a successful person. What
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: advice would you give them on how they can become
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: successful like you?
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: I don't know if I would call myself successful. Fortunately,
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: I had a great job. I got lucky, got a
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: great job. Put money away as early as you possibly
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: can and let your money make money for you. We
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: did really well. You know, every year the market does well.
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: It doesn't matter if it does bad. Just keep on
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: putting it away, putting it away in the market. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: would never pull your money if you get scared, especially
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: if you're young. The younger you are, who cares? You
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: want the money to be high when you retire. And
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: just get it in there as young as you can.
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: I don't care if you have to work overtime. Get
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: it in there, let your 401k or your Roth or
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: whatever just grow and grow. And later on, you're going
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: to be making more money like I did, more money
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: in the market than you will be making as your
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: salary at work. And you're going to sit back laughing like, okay, great.
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: This is how it's supposed to be. I'm supposed to
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: make three times my salary in the market every year.
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: You know, just fictional money. The market does well, I
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: do well.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: Okay, great.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: Now, whatever.
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: Like, you know, like that's the way you want to live.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Just..
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: Invest as much money as you can and just, you know,
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: don't take out if it goes bad for your money.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Did somebody guide you in that so that you started
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: doing that at an early age?
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: Of course, Ron. I don't know about a young age,
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: but I probably do what you do. My wife said
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: we're putting money away, and I put money away, so
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: there you go.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Then somebody did guide you. Yeah, the woman you live with. Exactly.
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: All right, buddy.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: You take care.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you. News Radio 570 WKBN. You're on the air.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: Hey, Ron. Just got one quick question for you today.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: I was getting off Route 11 on Mahoney Avenue here
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: in Austintown, and I noticed a county vehicle pulling off
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: in front of me. But lo and behold, now we
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: live in the state of Ohio where most agencies, cities, governments,
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: any place, they all go through the state of Ohio's
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: procurement board, and they buy fleet vehicles through the state
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: of Ohio. why would one of our county vehicles be
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: a Tesla? Those aren't your average $ 20, 000, $ 25, 000 car to
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: be riding around in. So my question would be, why
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: would the county be buying Teslas?
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's probably not a bad idea with
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: gas at $ 4. 50 a gallon that they did it, though.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, actually, some of those Teslas, depending on the model,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: weren't that expensive. Right? I mean, it depends on which
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: model you get.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: We try to support manufacturing in our state of Ohio, too.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: We have Ford. We have General Motors. We have no
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: Tesla manufacturers in the state of Ohio.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Well, isn't that interesting?
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: That's something I thought you should ponder.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ponder it. All right, thanks. I'm going
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: to ponder it. I'm jealous of everyone in a Tesla
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: when I pass a gas station at $ 4. 50 a gallon.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: Hello. Mr.
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: Berg, what are you having for dinner tonight?
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know yet. I don't know. How about yourself?
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: I got some nice buffalo party wings ready.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: I'm putting them in the oven right now. They look delicious.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Buffalo party wings.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: You're going to have wings.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Yep, we're going to have some nice wings tonight.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Now, are you a wingman or a dingman?
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: I'm a..
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: No, I'm a swing man.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're a swinger.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: You old guys like that. Isn't that interesting? All right,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: so you're making wings. Well, it sounds like it'd be
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: pretty good to me.
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: I just wanted to know. I've been talking.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: About all the ills of the day.
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: I just thought I'd say how.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: You're doing and Well, I appreciate just basic friendly conversation
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: for a change. You took some heat yesterday.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I know you did.
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: I noticed that last week you were talking to somebody
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: that was down in the Carolinas.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: And you were talking about how nice it was down
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: there and all this.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: It's the hottest selling area for property in a country
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: is north and south Carolina.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: I read up on it also, and it's a very
• 48:50
  Speaker 9: nice area. But I think you're kind of setting the
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: scene for yourself. When you finally pull the plug on
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: doing whatever you're doing, are you planning on moving down
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: that area?
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Carolinas? No. I like it here, and I like it
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: in Florida. My brothers are in Florida, but I like
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: it here as well. When you talk about pulling the
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: plug at my age, it usually means that when you
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: say pull a plug, it usually means take him off
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: life support. He's dead. Oh, no, I don't mean that
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: like that. That's what you meant.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: So the next thing.
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: Hanging up the microphone and walking out the door.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: I know once you do that, you're not going to
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: spend an hour waiting to call a talk show host
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: on the phone. I know that.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to track you down and sit on your
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: back patio and wait for lunch or dinner at your
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: house is what I'm going to do.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking forward to. It's always good to
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: hear your voice.
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: I know you're not going to spend an hour trying
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: to find out this and that from some talk show host.
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: You're going to be gone.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Well, that's talk show host loves hearing from you, and
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you make him feel good, and I appreciate it. I've
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: got to pause for the legal show. Thank you, my friends.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: All right, Mr. Fifth Avenue, NewsRadio 570 WQEN. And Ron Furb,
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  Speaker 2: we've got The Legal Show coming up next after the
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  Speaker 2: break at 5, brought to you by Beatrice Kopp. Then
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  Speaker 2: at 6, John Arnoldson with Money Talks on NewsRadio 570 WQEN.
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  Speaker 2: And Ron Furb from the Kingdom of Mahoning. We're coming back,
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  Speaker 2: so stay tuned.
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  Speaker 8: We ask seniors how to prevent Medicare scams. My best advice,
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  Speaker 8: if you get a phone call, do not talk to
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  Speaker 8: the person.
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  Speaker 2: These people are well-trained. Don't talk to them. They don't
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  Speaker 2: know me. They're just trying to scam me.
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  Speaker 8: Don't be fooled.
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  Speaker 4: Hang up.
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  Speaker 5: Just hang up.
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  Speaker 8: Never give out your Medicare number.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to get your number to put in a
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  Speaker 2: false claim.
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  Speaker 4: If I get a call from someone, I don't pick
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  Speaker 4: up the phone. And should I pick up the phone
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  Speaker 4: and they ask for information, then I hang up.
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  Speaker 8: How do you detect Medicare fraud?
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  Speaker 6: Just like I check my credit card statements, I check
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  Speaker 6: my Medicare statements monthly.
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  Speaker 2: Scammers can get a hold of your number, order medical
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  Speaker 2: devices through your account, and.
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  Speaker 8: You're not even going to know about it if you
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  Speaker 8: don't look at your statement. Check your statement every month.
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  Speaker 4: If you get your statement and you see something that
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  Speaker 4: you know you did not have done, you report it.
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  Speaker 8: Call your senior Medicare patrol.
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  Speaker 2: To report Medicare fraud, call the senior Medicare patrol at 567-NO-SCAMS.