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Wk #7 Out of Bounds W/ Dr. Quick · Bears Banter Talk Show

• 0:29
  SPEAKER_04: I'm still going.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_04: I'm still going.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yo, what's up, everybody?
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_04: Welcome to Out of Bounds with Dr.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_04: Quick.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_04: Of course, as usual, I'm Dr.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_04: Quick.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_04: Sitting in with me again today is my executive producer, Bernard Mohammed Nutty.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_04: What's going on, Sam?
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_05: How you doing today?
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, I'm doing great.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_04: Man, hey, it's so much stuff to talk about in sports, man.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_04: It's like it's not even a break because every sport is going on right now.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_04: So you got baseball, basketball, football, college, every it they starting up with college, uh, college basketball along with college football.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_04: I was just doing college baseball on Sunday.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's just it's just stuff everywhere.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_04: They got hockey going on.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_04: Man, you I mean, you can't even get a break, man.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_04: So it's just beautiful.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_04: But again, you know, last Thursday, it's almost been a week, but the beloved Bears won again.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_04: They took out the Patriots, man.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_04: What was it?
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_04: It was uh it was 30 to 24.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_04: The game really wasn't that close.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_04: It wasn't as close.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_04: You know, that last play right before the half made it a little closer than what it should have been, but it really wasn't that close.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_04: It was a dominant performance by the Bears.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_04: Of course, again, Caleb Williams comes out and just shows off uh well, he's 22 for 33, uh, 308 yards.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_04: He had two touchdowns, 66% completion rating, which went down a little bit, 116.7 passer rating.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_04: Like he he came back with the vengeance, man.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_04: And one of the things that I saw was him talking about the experience that he had with Tyson Bajent and uh Case Keenum, quarterback in the team.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, he's kind of kind of watching and taking notes on what the hot read is and what the read should have been on this play, and you know, just looking at the versatility of the routes, and he's come back and he's come back with Avengers.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_04: And and I've told people, hey, we're not gonna make no excuses for that them Packer game, that Packer game, we're not gonna make no excuses for the Minnesota game.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_04: We lost those games, but everybody knows that 18 makes this this offense runs, and when he's not there, the offense looks different, so you cannot.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, you can, you can take it as a moral victory.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I'm glad you Packer fans were jumping up and down, but you guys in last place in the NFC North.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_04: And so if you didn't lose to us, you really be in last place in the NFC North.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_04: You be so far down there, you know, we have to throw you a lifeline to even get you up, you know.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_04: But right now, you in last place again.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_04: You're in last place in the NFC North.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_04: Enjoy that, you know.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_04: The Bears are in seven, yeah.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_05: Go ahead, dog.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, I agree.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, 18 is that dude.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_05: I know we I said you said it feels good that we you watching these games with 18.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_05: It's you know it's like you expect to win versus like you hope you win.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_05: You expect to win, right?
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_05: So that the expectation has changed, but yeah, those those Packers are in last place right now.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's gonna be a tough division, though, right?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_05: Because I mean, you still have the Vikings at 6-0, the Bears at 5-2.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, I think the uh um what's the other team at a Detroit?
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_05: I believe is what four and three.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_05: And they four and two.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, they five, they five, they're five and two, right?
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_05: They're four and two.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_04: They had it, they had a bye week already.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_05: So they had a five bye week, right?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right, right.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, and Packers were in the last place.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but where they belong, you know.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_04: They're home where they belong in the last place.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh man, you know what?
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_04: One thing I forgot, dog.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_04: You know, this I gotta get ready.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_04: You know, because you know, so another another great game, another great offensive performance by the Bears.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_04: What I really like about this Bears offense is that there are no keys for the opposing team.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_04: You you can go in there, you have to study for everybody.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_04: It could be Burden one day, it could be it could be uh Comet, he's gone for the season, it could be Loveland, it could be uh Khalif Raymond, it could be uh Dunze, it could be Swift, it could be Monungay, it could just be.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, you sitting there like, man, you know, who do we key on this week?
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_04: And that's the one thing I like about it.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_04: Well, you you really don't want to key on Sam Rouse right now because he's still trying to come into his own, but you know, I gotta plug this in, but he's uh he's still trying to come into his own, but he's uh, you know, he's a rookie, he's gonna get a little bit more time with Kemet out, and so we're really gonna see where his draft stock is now.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_04: So he's gotta come in and play really above what he's been doing.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_04: And don't try to press too much, you know.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_04: But uh look, let's look.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_04: Luther had a breakout game.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_04: He had four receptions for 130 yards, and that was just in the first half.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_04: He didn't even catch any more balls or have any more yards in the second half.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Loveland had, what did Loveland have?
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_04: Loveland had seven receptions for 69 yards.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_04: Adunze had four receptions for 69 yards.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_04: Swift had 22 rushes for 78 yards and one touchdown.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_04: But the man of the out, who sometimes is inconsistent, Carlos Santos kicks a big 58-yard field goal to seal the game.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_04: Now, what's significant about that field goal, and a lot of people don't know, was that Carlos Santos was cut by Mike Vrabel and the Tennessee Titans before he got to the Bears.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_04: And so they asked Richard Hightower, who's the special teams coach, hey, does he want it?
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, Santos is like, oh boy, uh uh on in the movie, you goddamn right I do.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_04: Does he want it?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_04: You goddamn right I do, and he goes out there and kicks it right down the middle, man.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_04: Like like he didn't miss the first one.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_04: And so that that's man, that's what we be looking for for Santos, because you know you know you've seen him do it before.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_04: That's his career long.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_04: You've seen him at he'll hit a 50 or 55 yarder and then miss a 41 yard.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_04: It's like, man, what are you doing?
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like, that's closer.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I agree.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_05: You you know that what set up that play was um they they early on in that drive, Caleb hits um, he hits uh uh Rome on a uh third down conversion, third and nine.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_05: Man, incredible play.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_05: It just uh went over the outstretched hands of byers.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I mean, you're not supposed to be able to make a throw like that.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I've never seen nothing uh like that.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_05: I am gonna declare, hold on, let me say this clip it.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_05: Clip it doesn't mean it's gonna record it for me.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_05: Caleb Williams has the best arm in the NFL.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not saying he's the best quarterback.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_05: I don't want nobody to say I'm saying he has the best arm in the NFL.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_05: He threw that ball on a rope that went over somebody's it went between the guy's hands, went over a uh a safety head who's actually he who stretched out as far as he goes and dropped right there as wrong streaking.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_05: But anyway, and that to get to that, that was the same drive that eventually ended in Carlos Santos.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_05: Now I know I made a comment the other day when we say sometimes the quarterback can't take that sack, and I want to clear this comment up because I think sometimes people don't understand what that means.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_05: A quarterback when he goes to the line in certain situations, you see the pressure that they're gonna about to bring.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_05: As a quarterback, you have to adjust that pressure, and then you have to have some some what's your plan?
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_05: If they bring those guys, what are you gonna do with if they bring those guys?
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I meant on that play that Caleb can't take that sack because he did not adjust, he he actually did not have a plan, and the guys got in and he got sacked.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_05: So on plays like that, is your pre-snap read and also having some outlet of where the ball is gonna go immediately if that guy if you missed somebody, but Carlos Santos came through and hit that 58 yarder, he restored a lot of our faith because you know, a lot of us was like, man, once by 51, you know, it's like shooting dice.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_04: Man, you you know, it's it's it's to the point where we we just looking for some consistency because I know that it's it's extremely hard to kick at Soldier Field, especially when that wind starts blowing.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_04: This is the windy city, it's right off the lake front, and it's a difficult place for kickers to kick, but it shouldn't be that difficult for our kicker who's always kicking there.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, and and and hey, man, good thing for him to get his lick back with Mike Verbal for cutting him.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_04: And so, you know, that that's a good thing anytime that you can you can get that.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_04: Now, the Bears have another big test coming up this Monday night.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_04: They got another big one coming up that we're gonna play the Seattle Seahawks, who looked real dominant the other day against the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I mean, we we just gotta come out and play some football.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_04: Offensively, it's crazy because now, offensively, you don't really worry about the Bears' offense.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, we're gonna get 25 to 30 points.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's to me, is who's gonna stick Jackson Smith and Jigba?
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_04: That's my question right now.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_04: Who's gonna guard that guy?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_04: And he had a phenomenal game against the Chiefs.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, he he just he man, he caught a ball running and just just dropped over his shoulder, boom, just caught it and went in, did some fancy footwork on another catch.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just like, man, he's he's gonna be a problem.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, hopefully, we can shut him down, uh, and and get as many hits as we can on Villas Jones.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_04: You know, he's a non-football player, man.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_04: That was a wasted pick for us.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_04: He's actually playing well for Seattle, but he didn't do nothing for us, and and it just like a wasted pick.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_04: That was one of Poe's first bad picks when he got here.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_04: He was supposed to be a speed guy, but he's a speed guy that can't run the ball.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_04: So that's what I'm saying.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, uh Villas Jones was, if I remember correctly, he was a running back in high school, and when he got to college, they moved him to uh receiver, and and then um I forget why he played his first year in college, but his last few years he was at um Tennessee.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but he he he he was but uh so he never really got any better.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: He you know, he he couldn't catch in Chicago.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_05: He's fast, he could get open a good catch.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_05: And the Bears were trying to convert him to back to running back that last year was here, but uh you just couldn't you couldn't put up with it because he he was fumbling the ball right anytime he got on special teams and couldn't catch.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_05: So you just kind of kissed it goodbye.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_05: But Smith, uh man, Jackson Smith and Jenga.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's a problem there.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_04: That's a problem.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_04: We we just gonna have to do some uh creative things and try to get the Sam Donald um you know as best we can.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, you know, we just we just gotta do some things to try to get to him, you know.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_04: He said we're talking about Villas, that's Mark's chin boy.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, hey Mo.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_04: Mo, that's nobody's boy, man.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_04: That that dude, man, Villas Jones.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_04: But hey, hey hey, let me let me rephrase that Super Bowl champion Villas Jones.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_04: He did win a ring with Seattle last year.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_04: He was never gonna win a ring here with us unless he was the water boy.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_04: Because he was never gonna play here.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_04: He was terrible.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and speaking of speaking of terrible, I posted something today on Facebook.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_04: I said, do the Bears need the best Jalen Johnson?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we've been watching, we continue to watch his defensive struggles, and right now he has one of the worst coverage percentages in the entire NFL.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_04: And so he went from one of the first to one of the worst.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, a lot of people are saying that's because of the surgery.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_04: There, there's something that's going on with him to where he's his mind and his body are not collaborating with each other, right?
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_04: He's so hesitant on certain plays, his confidence level is gone.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_04: And hey, thank you to everybody who responded.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_04: Uh even even Mo responded on that.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_04: Man, everybody's like, man, and so Mo, I think if I remember Mo's uh uh comment, he was like, You're gonna bench him, and then you bench Tyreek.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_04: Man, who you gonna put out there?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know, Mo.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_04: I think I think if we go to Walmart, man, we can find a 79 79-year-old Walmart greeter that could probably play better than both of those two right now.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_04: You know, because they they are bad.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_04: And so, really, and I this is a topic that I've been talking about for years, you know.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody said I was a hater.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_04: I ain't hating, I just know bad coverage when I see it.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_04: $19 million a year.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_04: That's what he's getting paid.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_04: He's out there, it looks like he's out there making business decisions, and his business decisions don't align with the Bears' organizational decisions.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_04: It's not aligning up.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_04: So, but here's here's the other thing.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_04: We talked about this the other day.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_04: Jalen was the best corner on a very bad Chicago Bears team.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_04: He was one of the best players on a bad team, and so when they were playing this last place schedule and playing some of these real weak teams, he looked like a world beater.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_04: But now that they got this first place schedule, and they they the schedule has moved up, he's not looking so hot, you know?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_04: The the year that he got the contract and went to the Pro Bowl, what was that, 23?
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_04: He got four interceptions.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_04: Now, he's been in the league seven years and has a total of eight interceptions, and he got four in one year.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_04: Those are not numbers worthy of 19 million dollars.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_04: That's that's not it.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_04: Here's the other thing.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_04: If you go back and look, he played seven games last year.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_04: Played a total of seven games last year, right?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_04: Right now, we played a total of seven games this year.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_04: Do you know that his stats are better this year than last year?
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_04: Nobody's even paid attention to that.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_04: His stats are better now than last year.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_04: He got like one or two more tackles, he's got one more pass defended this year.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, I think he might have had one interception last year or something like that.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_04: But his stats are almost similar to last year.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_04: So, so what were we saying last year?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we just know.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he got an interception against Shadow Sanders with uh Jerry Judy got a ball, hit him right in the hand, and he kind of lost control of it.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_05: And yeah, and he just took it out of there.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was his only interception of the whole year.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_04: That was that was that was his only interception for the entire year last year.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_04: Was that Jerry Judy and Sador Sanders um interception?
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_04: So his stats are similar.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_04: We're just now noticing this, and I've been saying this, and everybody been calling me a hey, it's it's almost time to see what we can get for him because that 19 million, and the other thing that's really bad is that this is the last year of his guaranteed money.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_04: He has no more guaranteed money after this year, so I I don't know, and and so and I get so mad because y'all y'all know on Bears Banner in the in the chat, I was a fan of getting Joey Porter Jr.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, man, we gotta get this dude.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_04: It ain't gonna cost us that much money.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_04: Pittsburgh is trying to get rid of him, he don't want to play for Pittsburgh.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_04: It would have been a six-round pick for next year, and the seventh round, I mean, in a second round pick for 2027.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_04: We could have for Nakel and got another pick for something, you know what I'm saying?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_04: A six-rounder for next year.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_05: You know, that's that's ironic uh that you say that because uh that draft class when they came out, which was supposed first year, the Bears didn't have a draft pick until the third round.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_05: And where the Bears picked at, I want to say they picked Jo uh Laquan Jaquan Brisker.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_05: They picked him and then they had a pick like maybe three picks later, which I think it was he was like maybe 39.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_05: And um Kyler Gordon, I believe, was picked 42, somewhere in there.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_05: But I remember Christian arguing this that they should have gotten Joey Porter Jr.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_05: Who actually was picked, he was picked in between Gordon and uh Brisker as far as that pick.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_05: So that that's interesting that you say that because uh the Bears have had actually two opportunities to get him.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but yeah, that was my point on that, Chris.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_05: Uh on uh on that uh on that quick uh uh I don't know if okay.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm here I'm trying to send something to uh one of the potential coaches that I was gonna have come on tonight.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_04: Gotcha, gotcha.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm trying to get that to him.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yo, let's see.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so uh yeah, I'll be back here in one second.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, man, and and and watching Joey Porter the past two weeks with Dallas.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, he I'm like, man, we could have got that dude, man.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and and Mo.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_04: So so that that kind of leads into who do you think the Bears should get for the trade deadline and why?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_04: Why do you think they should get them?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_04: You know, we need to pull this on on Bears Banner, uh, you know, the the the motherlow show.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_04: Find out who we need to get and why.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_04: So I thought the Bears were gonna actually get DeForest Buckner, who actually went to the dang on 49ers about an hour and a half ago.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_04: And me and Christian was talking about it on Bears Banner on uh Facebook, and I said, man, he only gonna probably cost us a fourth-round pick.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_04: And Christian was like, Man, if it's a fourth-round pick, book him Dano, and he go to the 49ers for a fourth-round pick.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_04: I said, Like, you can't make this stuff.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what it is, man.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_04: I'll be sitting here knowing the value of these players.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_04: I'll be like, yeah, so he got this, this, this, this.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, man, they probably only gonna get a fourth round.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_04: They got him for a fourth-round pick, um, which was which is a steal for them because he has the option to get picked up for next year.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you get a fourth-round pick, pick up his contract, and then you re-sign him for the next year.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_04: And I think he was only like 27, somewhere around there.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, I you keep hearing they said they pose call for Khalil Mack.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm not really a big fan to bring Khalil Mack back.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_04: My next thing was the same guy who I said we should have got in free agency in the um in the summer, Jeffrey Simmons from the from the Titans, to show up the middle of that line.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_04: I know we got some uh some DN issues, some injuries, and things like that.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_04: But you got to get some pressure too coming from that middle.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_04: Grady Smith is actually having a silently good year for the Bears, showing up on a lot of tackles, showing up on a lot of film.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_04: And he, if you could put somebody with him, you know, you got sweat.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe that'll help sweat come back.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_04: How do you get PED tested?
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_05: You ain't did nothing, and all you did is you know, I heard him talking about it today, and he did not really uh address what was the issue, other than he uh he just made a mistake and he he didn't he it said he made a mistake, not the nutritionist.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_05: So, whatever that means, but that that's all he said about.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_05: But as far as the trade, I I don't think the bears are going to invest in a
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: defensive of end based off the unless there was a defensive end on their uh roster that they was trading reason I'm saying that is I I believe I believe Swag contractors are upward of 22 million uh plus a two plus one or two million dial is somewhere around uh I think about 18 something like that and you got Booker in the up in comment uh you know he he he's he you know you gotta be a little more consistent so I think and I know he's injured I think what the Bears do need to do is I agree Grady Jared has had a he's had a quietly good year but it's the other tackle position that has not shown up and so when you look at the where they rank at I think as far as defensive line pressure I believe they're around 27 or 28 in the league as far as in that category so they could do something there or if they did something else I think it would involve a a trade if they could uh but other than that man corner man at this point man if they could just get a corner that's willing to tackle man you almost could live with the guy getting burnt a little bit because Jalen getting burnt and can't tackle so you can't have to pick a struggle right pick a struggle tackling we could move you back a little bit more right and then you just come up right and that the underneath stuff you could some you know you could live with the underneath stuff and then you come up and be a sure tackler we all we can live with that but if you I mean come on if you just guys running by you then you're not making a tackle downs look like you're not even making an effort to make a tackle so you just a liability there's really no reason for you to be out there now I think we I think we got rid of uh we got three of we get we got rid of three veterans last year uh we got rid of uh Gardner Johnson we got rid of Naishon Wright and we got rid of uh Kevin Byard I think that was a lot to get rid of with that with that db lock and you know that db room um because you shoot you actually gave up man almost what 12 to 13 interceptions with Bayard and Wright together you know and I do agree with you Mo Man we do need to go call them call the uh Jets and see how much it costs for us to get Nation right he he not even playing over there yeah we made a snap he did well here and I mean he's long he's lanky you could do some things with him um barring any other injuries to the best secondary you could always just slide him right in I don't I don't even think you're gonna hesitate and wait to slide him in because he knows the system and I mean he played well he was a pro bowler last year so we got really he was talking he was tackling too right I mean yeah I mean he was getting he was getting it he was getting toasted but he was getting an exception and he was making tackles and now as far as CJ CJ played the game I want to say this weekend he he I I think after he got burnt he spits in the guy's face yeah dejected he get but that was that was uh that was his second thing because he did something when he uh when the dude burnt him before he tried to discredit him talking about yeah he was just a practice player but they was like wait a minute you was a practice player just a year ago wait a minute what are you talking about yeah so yeah so yeah you know we we we got a couple injuries man and we need to shore up some things uh we got shamar turner back we got a couple pieces back but he got some pieces back that we surely don't know about you haven't heard about the uh the guy who had the great camp what's his name uh Ben Ben whatever his name is uh Vandenberg yeah Vanderburg you haven't heard much about him because you know he's not playing against the uh fourth and fifteen and the guys is now working at at McDonald's you know he's he's playing against some NFL number one guys and he he hasn't figured it out yet um don't see him much on the stat sheet but I know he's playing I've seen him in the game just haven't seen him do much of anything yet and so you know we we got to figure this out the trade deadline is November 10th so the Bears have up until November 10th to make a splash deal I don't see us making a really big splash deal because we always bears always want to try to keep their draft capital for whatever reason I mean we've done well the past three years with this draft capital that we've had a lot of the players that we have were drafted by the Bears and so you know hey that's that's who we are so we're not gonna go out and do nothing too crazy.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: But in other NFL nukes Jay-Z assigned himself to be the halftime performer for the Super Bowl H to the Izzo V to the V8 you know I mean I I like Jay-Z I I think it was I think it was a more of an ego thing because his wife came in like yeah I did the Super Bowl yeah he was like I put you there she was like yeah I feel that don't you worry about it I'm I'm gonna go here and I'm gonna put myself on the Super Bowl now I ain't seen J Z perform in so long I don't even know if he remember how to do it.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_04: You know he he turned to a business man.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly last time you seen him talk about he going on concert or something I remember yeah I think that was man that was probably about 10 15 years ago maybe right right no idea hey so pull up the play dog we're about to go to the new segment of the show we got a new segment it's gonna be called blow the whistle I got this whistle right here okay there we go now we're in we we're official we got the blow the whistle segment so what blow the whistle is is we're gonna be talking about uh a contentious play this week that happens during a game and the fans want to know what the heck that was and I'll give you the perspective from the referee's point of view in which you can actually see um and and kind of know more about what happened so we're pulling up the Joe Tooney play from this week and what we're talking about is what make this what made this play illegal so go ahead and run it for right for right now dog and then you know we'll come back to it so this is a play and then the ball is Joe Tooney watching with it on a trick play beautiful in illegal board handing about number 18 handing off to an offensive lineman five yard penalty lost down so you're handing it off it has to be behind yeah what's funny no not yet so what's funny is if you look at the referee the referee is trying to figure out what signal is that that I give for this particular play because this does not happen all the time so he's like well do I get it this this right here behind the back means a legal forward pass so it's like but that ball wasn't really a pass it was a legal handing so I guess that's the signal for it I don't know but going back to it the Bears actually ran an overload right an unbalanced right formation they had three linemen on the right side they had uh when we looked at it they had Ozzy Tripello Darnell Wright and Jonah Jackson then they had Grady at center then they had Joe Tooney and then they had Coast and Loveland but they overloaded to the right side of the line so if you pull it back before we play the play right there.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_04: So they have three linemen to the right side they have three linemen to the right side Ozzy Trapello, Donnell Wright and Jonah Jackson all on the right side.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_04: So it looks like heavy run to this way and then they bring Swift in motion what makes the formation legal on the backside with Coast Loveland is is that Loveland is the last guy on the line of scrimmage.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_04: So he's eligible by number 84 to be on the last side the last man on the line of scrimmage now a lot of y'all are like what the hell are you talking about right now all right so if you don't have on number 50 through 79 and you want to line up in an eligible receiver position you have to do what we call report into the game.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_04: So you'll see the uh referee say number number 79 is reporting as eligible so that means he's reporting to a legal position who is who's legal to carry or receive the football.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_04: That's why they report into the game now where Joe Tooney is Joe Tooney is playing his regular position of left guard by rule Joe Tooney is not allowed to receive a forward handoff or a forward pass because of his alignment in the formation he's lined up at guard.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_04: Now with this same play Joe Tooney is actually look run the play again run the play again okay so we got Swift coming in motion from the top of the screen and they're gonna do like a little spin around with Joe Tooney and then the ball is Joe Tooney with it on a quick play beautiful and illegal handy button so hey you see the referee he like uh illegal uh damn uh it's one of these right here like I'm gonna do something like hey when we all get in trouble and forget the signal we just do like this it's a legal procedure I ain't got time to look at the card figure what it is y'all know y'all messed up it's a legal procedure right hey hey joining us right now is the head coach of Thornwood High School Tremaine weaver we are almost to that segment man and uh man glad you could come in and we're gonna we're gonna congratulate you on your big win this weekend they coach of thornwood and they got it done this weekend so they'll be moving on to play but man congratulations congratulations coach thank you all my children graduated from thornwood the youngest graduated in 2021 number two number two overall in her class my son played football for thornwood for three years I am happy to see y'all winning yeah uh between the three of them which is from 2010 to 2021 it was a lot of losing yeah I got a special treat for you too and don't even reveal this Jermaine but this guy right here coached one of the top running backs in the NFL right now in high school I'm not gonna give it who I ain't gonna give it who y'all you got to stay your ass right there you got to stay here and finish watching out of bounds we're gonna give it to you in the end I ain't lying though Emma I ain't lying yeah yeah so that's the end of the uh what made that play illegal was that Joe Tooney was illegal by formation.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_04: Now I'm sure we're gonna see this play again in some kind of way because Joe Tooney can actually take a backwards handoff.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_04: So if they flip that play and run it this way and have Joe Tooney pulling the other way do you remember when they were on the goal line and they made both guards pull the opposite direction to run the quarterback sneak now Ben Johnson is a genius right and and you start thinking about concepts of plays you can pull and have Joe Tooney take a backwards handoff so just just remember that for future you'll be like man what the so you can have him take a backwards handoff we're gonna jump we're gonna jump right into it go ahead go ahead say you want coach I'm sorry coach do you want to stay on on on air while until we get to your part or do you want to go off air right and we just have you behind stage until you get to your part oh it's up to you guys man i'm hey i'm I'm you guys guest whatever y'all want okay all right cool we can stay here man stay here for a minute we can hey I'm gonna shoot through this stuff because I want to get to talking about this IHSA playoff stuff man i'm I'm so excited hey just uh before we get to the end of the NFL part we got another coach that just joined us too he the oldest he is uh the old man of the Chicago Public League the oldest tenured coach in the Chicago Public League this is coach Fred Ward from Carver High School I told him this morning he was about 75 years old still coach hey we're gonna let me shoot through this stuff real quick so I can get to this IHSA stuff because I I was really wanting to do this stuff uh hey we got some really good games coming up this week we got the Browns and Steelers Ravens and Bills Vikings and Lions Bears and Seahawks Chiefs and Broncos hey uh we need the Vikings well that's gonna help us out the Vikings Lions somebody got to lose so that's gonna help the Bears we just got to win on Monday night and we'll know what we need to do.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_04: I want to talk about this WNBA stuff real quick uh the Valkyries are up 3-2 on my girl Angel Reese in Atlanta Dream now one of the dumbest decisions ever made is that they're going to play a potential finals game Thursday at 1130 in the afternoon that's when game six is going to be at 1130 in the afternoon because they wanted to play it where the Atlanta Hawks play at and the Hawks play later on at night so they could have potentially moved that game back a day to play it at night but they wanted to play it all in one day so the Valkyries are up 3-2 over the Atlanta dream I'm hoping Angel could pull this one out just for me.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_04: I mean not for nobody else but for me Angel Reese let's get it done let's try to get to it come on let's let's do it right uh the NBA so the season is kicked off last week now what's weird is in the West if you go back and look in the West I know they're playing the night so I don't I don't have the results of tonight there are five undefeated teams in the Western division in the NBA right now.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_04: Five so everybody else in the east you got one team that's uh the Pistons are three and oh and like everybody else is two and one two and one two and one all the way down to the 10th seed and then the trash ass Bulls are one and three so it's like what are we doing here?
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_04: All right then we get to the MLB playoffs they are playing right now I hate the Brewers the Brewers were up three to nothing I think they were they're up three nothing in the series Tampa Bay win and lay the egg I don't think Tampa Bay is going to even be able to come back and win no four straight over the Brewers it's not gonna happen.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: And the Brewers suck man we talked about them last week knowing about Laverne and Shirley Fonzy Poxy happy days that's the only thing good that ever came out of dango milwaukee man and and and and beer that's it that's it you know that's it I had a I had a girlfriend from Milwaukee man she gang banged harder than over here what we say coach Oblak she's from Ock man in Milwaukee bro man it's crazy it's crazy up there all right so hey let's get to what we want to talk about man I got two two of the coaches here from the IHSA uh one is from Thornwood High School the other one is from Carver High School man we are very excited about the new playoff theory um you know guys you know tell us a little background about yourself coach what I know you've been at at Carver Dunbar Hyde Park Coach Jesus and them I mean who put me on the spot bro okay bless the heart hallelujah yeah man you know man I um I'm blessed to be guessed the most tenure coach in Carver because at CPS at this present time I actually started how I started coaching man at Carver in 1985.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: Most folks don't know that I got my first head job in 1988 at Carver uh head sophomore coach so I'm going way back when I say 80s um and I've been at Carver for 30 plus years and um been a head coach right now for this is my 24th season.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_04: So I've been around for a while man and just um trying to get out the way yeah yeah one one thing that we know uh coach Ward has 99 wins and is one win away from 100 which is a tremendous feat especially nowadays in in high school football with so much change every year a lot of stuff is changing and um you know congratulations to you hopefully man we get some streamers out there to the you know pop for the hundredth win real soon and um you know man just keep working keeping your kids working I've actually refereed your games I actually coached against you back when I was coaching yeah and I know you know I ain't coached a high school football game in so long so if your ass still around you old as hell I don't think I coached a high school football game since maybe 2006 or seven or something like that.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_03: Man I've been coaches in my blood most folks don't know man when I say this they try to guess my age this is literally my 50th year coaching sports.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_04: Well I know you old because you you know one thing that we have in common you was in my mother's uh evangelist class yeah y'all went to evangelist class and came out in 1991 together absolutely was actually was a college most folks don't realize that um and then you know later on got accreditation but I wasn't paying all that money to get that yeah it was like five stacks like man okay listen okay yeah but yeah yeah and the next coach we have here is Tremaine weaver yeah of the weaver brothers him and his brother Mo him and Mo been around coaching man they these are the young guys but they've been coaching forever nutty pop on real quick i need I need you to pop in real quick so i i gave away a little I gave away a little uh a little teaser this was bucky urban's coach at hillcrest for the type of way the buccaneers yes yeah this bucky urban's coach right here yeah yeah so give us a little bit about you tremaine i mean i know i know you and mo and and uh man go ahead from from back in the wheel cook days and all that man for sure for sure man definitely uh tremaine weaver uh this is my third season at uh as head coach at thornwood uh probably at thornwood i was at hillcrest uh for a little over 10 seasons uh but i'm a hillcrest alumni played football there um it just uh man it's just been a blessing been a journey um been a south suburban guy my whole life played will cook country club hill cougars uh came back started coaching there um left there started the program out in park forest park forest hurricanes with uh alvin lacey uh db coach at brother rice we did that for a few years um and then just a few years ago uh you know helped start um the uh midwest hawks uh youth football program that's around now so uh yeah been in it this is actually my uh 28 22nd season coaching uh football between youth and high school man and it's uh it's been a blessing man to just build programs and uh turn programs around yeah it and it's it's been interesting to see the progression i actually started coaching after coach ward so coach ward was around i think when i first started you were at maybe high park at that particular time i think it was high park before what did you go to high park then dunbar or dunbar high park i was kind of split between the two actually i was at uh but you you missed out a lot of places i've with pat you know pat who reps with you i was with him when it was at callers uh then i was at with uh black at south shore so no i'm talking about when i started i started in 99 so 99 i was at carver i was at carver then i went to high park to dunbar back to the high park then dun bar so so i remember the high park that was when the the legendary andre thomas was there at uh at at high park and then split and went to dunbar every time you see coach wood you gap down backer five six piece six piece five piece hey you can go to this game and be sleeping wake up like oh gap down backer gap down backer calling out calling out the uh plays man tremain how how has your season been um i saw you a couple weeks ago at the flag playoff game and and you guys have been rolling uh I've been following you guys when Tony Benson's son was playing with you guys and Still following him now in St.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_04: Xavier.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_04: And so, how you guys been doing over there this year?
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_06: Man, we uh, you know, we've been doing great.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, I decided to play a tougher schedule this year, um, just to kind of get my guys ready for the uh postseason.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, just the evaluation that I seen, you know, uh the last couple of years.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_06: Um, so put up put us up against some, you know, some really good talent outside of the you know teams, dominant teams that we play in the conference.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_06: Uh so uh, you know, we rolling.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, it's been my goal to kind of you know get us from the bottom of the pile this year.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_06: We finished third in the conference, um, in the Southland conference, uh, which is a very competitive conference with Creek, Kankakee, uh Township, Bloom, um, in 205, Thornton and Thorn Ridge.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_06: So um, you know, it was you know, my goal to get us uh moving up in the conference.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_06: We uh finished third this year, um, and we still grinded.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_06: We want to get that uh conference championships, but more importantly, uh the big goal was to win games in the playoffs.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_06: And uh we started that next week.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_06: I mean uh last week.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_06: Uh definitely want to give a shout out to Coach Ward.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_06: Uh definitely uh good brother met Coach Ward uh actually uh a few years ago, um, not even on the football field, actually doing some ministry stuff and being there for some people, uh uh some mutual people that we know.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_06: But uh definitely much uh love and respect to uh Coach Ward, who always hit me.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_06: He always texts me before the season starts, man, just to check in.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_06: So uh definitely appreciate uh Coach Ward, man, and uh everything you uh you bring to the game, bro.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_03: I appreciate the love, man.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_03: You know, um and we joke around, I'm just I mean, being in CPS, I'm a little disenchanted with some things.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_03: But we with y'all, you brothers, and y'all, y'all doing a great job.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_03: And your young coach, um, when even my son played for uh coach and uh got bumped into each other, you know, out there with a couple of guys.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's the the it's it's a joy to see coaches who coaching for the right reasons.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_03: And uh I could tell you if you have a South Suburbs on whatever to get your kid there, you got a phenomenal coach, man.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_03: It's the love of the game, and it's also not just the love of the game, but the building of young men, uh character, discipline, and that's so and I applaud them for doing the right thing, taking risks.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's when I first started Carmen.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_03: I was getting spanked because I wanted to play the tough competitions, you know.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we didn't run, we wasn't ducking and hiring from anybody.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_03: We we always our marshmallow is always we'll play anybody anywhere, anytime.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: So that's just you know, have bump it up, having a conversation.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_03: Man, I'm proud of the work you're doing, man.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_03: And uh you just keep going, man.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_03: Before you know it, man, we even talking about state championship.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, uh, I appreciate that.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_04: And at one period, man, when uh when Tremaine was at Hill Crest, they were one of the top teams uh in the area.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_04: And it's it's I remember we had a conversation, some of the same things.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta play a tougher conference, yeah.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, you gotta play tougher people, you gotta do this and get your kids ready to play.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_04: And and I'm glad you've done that.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and even taking that.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_04: But what's even funny, we talked about this.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, when you're coaching against your brothers, man, it's a war, you know what I'm saying?
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_06: For sure, for sure, for sure.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, definitely a war, man.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_06: Uh coaching against uh so Karen is actually my cousin.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_06: We uh we're one year apart, so uh everybody thinks we brothers, but you know, we don't really correct nobody.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_06: Uh but yeah, man, definitely a war going over there at the Hillcrest uh this year.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_06: Um definitely different, you know, being on the visitor sideline.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_06: But uh much respect uh you know to my cousin and his staff and uh their program.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_06: Uh they put some things together.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_06: They started out 0-3, uh, finished up five and four, and uh they rolling in the playoffs.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but you know, that's just a pedigree that we come from.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, being coached under uh Ernie Sutton, we all played for Ernie Sutton.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_06: Um and when we took over Hillcrest, Marquis Cole uh came in, you know, retired from the league.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_06: So uh, you know, we got a lot of you know great instruction and a lot of great knowledge and wisdom.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and you know, we've just been carrying that on.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_06: And uh, you know, we're seeing the fruit of it at Thornwood now, um, which is uh an amazing place to be.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_06: So many athletes there.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I've been telling people when I took the job, a lot of people thought I was crazy for leaving Hillcrest.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, but you know, I seen some over there.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_06: I know the athletes that's over at Thornwood, uh, Miss Fonby, very good uh uh athletic director, assistant principal of athletics, um, principal Don Holmes, and just uh you know entire administration.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_06: So I walked into a very good situation with a lot of uh support.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_06: Um, so you know it's just me just putting my hand to the plow and working it now.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and uh yeah, Siobhan is an excellent person to have as your AD.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, for sure.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, like you got a person that really wants the school, not just football, but she got you got somebody that wants the school and that whole athletic programs to thrive.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, and so she's a person that you could talk to.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_04: Coach, hey, I need blah blah blah.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_04: She's gonna try to make it happen for sure.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_04: I've known her for a little while, and she she's a worker.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_04: You guys got Riverside Brookfield this weekend, yes, sir.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, sir, yes, sir.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_04: Well, what tell me about it?
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_04: Talk to me.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_04: Tell me about uh yeah, yeah, man.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_04: I actually had them this year too.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_04: I had them against Glenbar East.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I see y'all out there.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_06: I got the film.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_06: I seen, I seen, yeah, I seen the crew out there.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_06: I was actually.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we we were the black guys, we were the black guys.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_06: So see y'all out there.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_06: Uh no, man, they um, you know, they do a lot of they do a lot of great things.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_06: Um, another program that you know was kind of down for a couple years and they've just been grinding getting better.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_06: Um, we both played Sandberg this year.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_06: They had them week one.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, we had them week eight.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_06: Uh the scores was very similar.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_06: So, you know, we're expecting the dog fight.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, I like what they do over there, both on offense and defense.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, with my staff, we've been breaking down fam and uh, you know, we're getting our guys ready.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_06: You know, we're gonna go over there and and and throw our punch.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_06: But that's exactly why, you know, we played that schedule.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_06: We wanted to play the Sandbirds, the Bradley Bourbon A's, you know, the Hillcrest, and you know, play those guys.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_06: Um, we already got Creed and Kankin Key on the schedule.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_06: So uh we wanted to go out there and um, you know, we we used to having guys kind of lean on us.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_06: You know, we're not the biggest team, uh, but we got a lot of heart.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and we got a lot of guys that play big.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_06: So um I think it's gonna be a very good game.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_06: I'm real excited about it.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, to get out there and you know have a chance.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_06: I think they number three uh right now in the South Bracken at 6'A.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_06: So, you know, this would be a great upset for us.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I mean I've had both, I mean and I haven't had your team, but I I've seen the similar styles.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be speed on speed.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_04: You know, um it's it's a very evenly matched game.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_04: It's a very evenly matched game.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_04: Gotta be disciplined and limit the penalties.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, you just gotta keep, like you said, keep punching, keep punching, keep punching, keep punching.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_04: And hopefully, like uh, what's that?
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_04: Uh uh uh Glass Joe and Mike Tyson, you knock out.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_04: Knock out together, yeah.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so Coach Ward, tell me about where your program is right now, man.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_04: What's going on?
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_03: Well, two things.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_03: First of all, start that first.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_03: Let me say this.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um Mike out Dr.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_03: Allen, man, phenomenal guy.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you got some all girl garden tiles.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_03: But first of all, for the work that you guys do, the professionalism and the integrity that you guys do, and consistency that y'all have as a crew, y'all represent us well.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_03: You know, um, I think we need to know that, especially as African-American men, that you know, you got you got years of knowledge, and you're gonna get a good, well-called coach game.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I've I've coached for years, and some folks couldn't buy a clue.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but you guys, man, if that crew, you can help but them um rate them five all the way through because of, like I said, the way you represent us, so we appreciate what you're doing, man.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_03: You know, um, man, Carver, man, you know, I'm I'm at home.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I graduated Carver, you know, in the 80s, and so uh still there, you know, uh started in '92.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I just found out they're gonna give me my first two years, so I gotta stay another year to get to my 34.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_03: But uh man, I just stayed home and man made it work where it was.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we just take the students that we have, you know, uh military academy.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_03: So uh the conversation just be trying to get folks to go to the army and stuff, which is not true.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we've been very successful with the guys we had.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_03: Last year was a fluke because uh, you know, uh, I could have won 100 games last year, but um, 100 games, but I had to, I mean, we got issues with vaping.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: And so um, man, I'm old school.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: I I kicked like about seven of my seniors off.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, teen some very good players, uh, a couple of them playing high.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_03: That's not that's not tolerable.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: And um, man, uh coaching wise, you know, we ended up winning eight.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll do that again because I mean, I mean, I learned I love the experience of coaching and all that it brings and developing young men.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_03: So next year we got like 15 returning um seniors, well, seniors and juniors, and we should do better, all depends on what conference they have us in.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: You know, CPS, we need prayer concerning our conference, and uh, you know, I'm I'm not in agreement with how things are going now, you know.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_03: But uh, because I've been around for a while, but um um, but you know, uh, that's a different situation.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm we talked about I should say stuff.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_04: Hey man, you know, it's uh hey first of all, I appreciate you.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_04: You I appreciate you uh recognizing my crew, man.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_04: We uh we have a great time working these games.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um but we worked our ass off to get to where we are.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_04: Uh my crew has three state finals.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_04: Uh overall together, the five of us have four state finals.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, the the overall together, all of us have 20 state finals.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so you do have, you know, you got uh Chris Head, Leron Miles, Ivan Palomore, now Kenny Davison Jr.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_04: And at first it was Andre Goldston and myself, and we have various sports, and so we are recognizable, and we appreciate that.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_04: We appreciate you guys as far as putting in the work and knowing that we are knowledgeable.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_04: Uh people don't know.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_04: We get, and you guys know we get some of the biggest games on Friday night.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_04: We we get the biggest games on Friday night, and I get to go out there with my boys and do the game.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_04: It's like, yeah, we you you come in our locker room, you be like, these dudes finna go do a game?
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the radio is on just like the kids.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, oh blah, oh blah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_04: You know, we in there kicking it, and then you know, we've had some ADs walking, we're like, what in the what is going on in here?
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, you got some sandwiches or some water?
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_04: If not, you gotta go, bro.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_04: You know, but you guys have really put forth the effort to change the lives of young men.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you guys have been touching the lives of young men and creating the the atmosphere.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_04: I I was telling when when you first came on, Tremaine, I was like, man, he he coaches one of the top running backs in the in the NFL right now, yeah.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and so and he's been real influential in Bucky's life, you know, since he was a young, a young kid.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and so you also got over there, you you ain't telling everybody, you got them South Highland Jets that practice over there on your field.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_04: You you ain't you ain't you ain't tell nobody about it.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_04: So Nutty Nutty used to coach, didn't you used to coach the Jets back in the day, Nutty?
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_04: Or one of them programs over there?
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_04: No, uh I coached uh Lance Alliance.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, Tremaine got the South Highland Jets in his backyard.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_04: He ain't tell nobody because he ain't one of the coming over there.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_06: Nah, for sure, man.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_06: They uh you know a story program, man.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_06: They they've been around over 50 years.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_06: Uh love having them.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, and they they still going.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_06: They got uh two team, I believe two teams playing in the uh Super Bowl this weekend in UIFL.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_06: So they just made that jump uh to Unlimited uh this last year, man.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_06: And they uh they they competing.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_06: So um no, it's it's it's great, you know, and not just the Jets, man, just the programs, you know, just in the area.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_06: Cal uh Cal City Chargers, Cal City Thunderbolts, you know, just all those guys, uh Midwest Hawks.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, I try to make sure Hazelcrest Mustangs, I try to make sure, you know, I'm connected with all of those guys in the area because you know, we get kids uh from all of those programs.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_06: And uh man, Mike, uh you guys are very influential in just my growth, bro.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, uh a ton of conversations uh uh with black man over the years, you know, um, even being a youth coach, uh, what to do, what not to do, how to address a ref, and you know, how to talk, how to get what you want, how to get what you need, what you supposed to know.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_06: So um just that education, you know, you guys are more than refs out there, man.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_06: You know, you guys have uh done a lot for myself, uh, the guys on my staff, my brothers, my cousin, uh Andre Morgan, Sergio, just you know, all the guys.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, that uh, you know, just within our network of what uh what you guys do from youth football all the way up to uh high school, man.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_06: You guys definitely uh deserve it.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_06: Y'all deserve the flowers, y'all deserve the pay, y'all deserve everything because uh you guys have uh truly, truly been uh um, you know, just a wealth of knowledge, information, and uh wisdom over the years for sure.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_04: It's funny because it's three of us on our crew that have been high school coaches.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_04: With the most famous is Chris Head.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you you you sit back and you watch Preps Plus and all that.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_04: Religion Chris Chris Head is on our crew.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, he's he's one of the most famous guys in the city.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_04: You can't go on the west side and somebody don't know who Chris Head is.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's just that's blasphemy, you know what I'm saying?
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_04: And uh, you know, we sit back and we still talk, even to this day with me, him, and black, we still talk coaching, we still talk philosophy, and black can say it all the time, man.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_04: Quick, man, me and you could take this team and win state with this dang old team.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_04: This coach over here don't know nothing, man.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_04: He's crazy.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_04: Look at this dude, he needs to be playing coach, look at his concept on his play, you know.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_04: And we we're out there actually doing that, man.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_04: And it's funny because one of the winningest coaches of all time in this state is Frank Linty.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_04: And when Frank Linty sees us, his eyes just light up.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_04: He's just, hey guys, what's going on?
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_04: And to be recognized by Frank Linty, that that just means the world to me.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_02: That's you, for sure.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_04: You know, yeah, that just means the world to me because that means that we we we've done something.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_04: And and recognition for being a referee ain't always there.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_04: But when they, you know, they start sending these games out, and we we've actually had a couple breaks these these first two weeks, and you know, it's coming.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_04: We already know because most of our games, you know, we the last time we went to state in 24, we had the only game that was down there.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_04: You know, all our games be one possession and all that stuff.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but hey, I appreciate you guys for coming on.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, we got to get you back on here.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um, gotta get you back on here real soon.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_04: Uh show's only an hour.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_04: We had about 59 minutes, so it's almost time to go.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_04: But there's one last segment of the show.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_04: You know what time it is, nutty.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_04: You know what time it is.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_04: Rudy Pooh.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_04: It's the part of the week, the last part of the show where I give out the Rudy Pooh candy ass award, and that's the person who has cost their team the most or who has done something stupid all week.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_04: I had a couple of choices.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_04: I could have I could have picked Jalen Johnson for his tackling last week.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_04: That's an alley oot.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm gonna pick the WNBA.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_04: How in the hell can you want viewership?
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_04: Your viewers have gone down because the little sparkly girl in in Indiana is not in the playoffs anymore, and you put the potential WNBA finals game at 11:30 on a Thursday afternoon.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_04: You're not even trying to get viewership, you're not trying.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_04: So, for that reason, the WNBA is the rudie poo candy ass of the week.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_04: And I keep telling you, Nutty, we gotta get some awards.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_04: We need to send these out to these.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you for the awards.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_04: But hey, thank you so very much, Coach Fred Ward, Coach Tremain Weaver.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_04: I'm Dr.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_04: Quick, and you've been on out of bounds.