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- 0:01Speaker 1: In the fall of nineteen seventy six, I went to
- 0:03Speaker 1: get the latest album by one of my favorite bands,
- 0:05Speaker 1: the Doobie Brothers, and something had changed. Something was way different.
- 0:11Speaker 1: That was in China Grove or listening to the music,
- 0:14Speaker 1: or you know, Jesus is just all right. It was
- 0:17Speaker 1: this guy, this Michael McDonald. It was taking it to
- 0:20Speaker 1: the streets. And I reacted convulsively.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Well in a good way or a bad way.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Bad way at the time. Oh, I have come to
- 0:28Speaker 1: appreciate him. My buddy Ryan Smith is quite the Doobi's historian.
- 0:33Speaker 1: And I've also heard some of the interviews with Michael
- 0:35Speaker 1: McDonald and in his memoir called What a Fool Believes,
- 0:39Speaker 1: I get it. He is great. I love him and
- 0:42Speaker 1: love his talented but it just wasn't the Doobie Brothers.
- 0:44Speaker 1: And so after years of it was kind of half
- 0:46Speaker 1: of a bit. You know, it's like Michael McDonald destroyed
- 0:49Speaker 1: the Doobie Brothers. Not true. It's great. They sold zillions
- 0:51Speaker 1: of records and I love him. He's hugely talented. And
- 0:53Speaker 1: Michael McDonald is seventy four today, so making peace, making
- 0:58Speaker 1: peace than all right.
- 1:00Speaker 2: I got to tap into the smart one of the
- 1:01Speaker 2: smartest people I know. You're one of the smartest guys
- 1:03Speaker 2: I know. And I've got two burning questions that you're
- 1:06Speaker 2: going to solve for me to two issues that I've
- 1:10Speaker 2: got to try to wrap my brain around. But before
- 1:12Speaker 2: we do that, I shared a very sad story yesterday
- 1:15Speaker 2: on the show. We were talking about this whole Ring
- 1:18Speaker 2: Nest camera surveillance thing that ties into the Nancy Guthrie
- 1:22Speaker 2: you know story. They got they found this this is
- 1:24Speaker 2: for surveillance video, this scary looking dude who's on the
- 1:27Speaker 2: porch with the ski mask and all that, And as
- 1:30Speaker 2: Joey Hudson here in South Carolina pointed out, we learned
- 1:34Speaker 2: that essentially, if you've got a camera on or in
- 1:37Speaker 2: your house, whether you're subscribed to any kind of service
- 1:40Speaker 2: or not, they're going to they have the ability to
- 1:41Speaker 2: get video of that of that camera because she didn't
- 1:44Speaker 2: apparently have a subscription to Nester or Google, but they
- 1:47Speaker 2: went to Google and they said here it is. And
- 1:48Speaker 2: so anyway, we got got into this whole big conversation
- 1:50Speaker 2: about Ring and their Super Bowl ad and how they
- 1:54Speaker 2: had an ad that bragged that if you lose your dog,
- 1:58Speaker 2: basically everybody can kind of come in turn into a
- 2:00Speaker 2: neighborhood watch and every camera gets AI trained to look
- 2:04Speaker 2: for your particular dog and and if they could do
- 2:08Speaker 2: that with dogs. Because the other the people and I
- 2:09Speaker 2: shared the story, I said, look, I'm sympathetic because when
- 2:12Speaker 2: I was a kid, my dog ran away when we
- 2:15Speaker 2: were moving. We were moving from Fairfield to Hamilton, Ohio.
- 2:19Speaker 2: And the dog Thumper one. I had a lot of
- 2:21Speaker 2: Thumpers in my life. Cocker always black Cocker Spaniels. That
- 2:25Speaker 2: was my dog's So wait a minute.
- 2:26Speaker 1: You had a dog you loved with a name you loved,
- 2:28Speaker 1: and then a subsequent dog got slapped with the same name.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Oh Thumper two, Thumper three, Thumber four? Oh yeah, I
- 2:35Speaker 2: had thumb.
- 2:36Speaker 1: And then kind of weird. I mean, doesn't that does that?
- 2:39Speaker 1: Does that?
- 2:39Speaker 2: Thumper? The second Thumper? The third?
- 2:41Speaker 1: That's either a touching memory thing for the original Thumper
- 2:46Speaker 1: or it kind of dishonors. If I'm Thumper one across
- 2:49Speaker 1: the Rainbow Bridge, It's like, dude, that was my name.
- 2:52Speaker 1: What do you do? But anyway, well, I.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Guess there's that. Okay, So thanks to thanks for adding
- 2:57Speaker 2: to my trauma. So let me share with you the
- 2:59Speaker 2: traumatic experience. So the dog runs away. When we were moving,
- 3:02Speaker 2: my mom and dad couldn't They couldn't find the dog,
- 3:04Speaker 2: couldn't find the dog. Week or two goes by. Dog's gone,
- 3:07Speaker 2: Thumper's gone forever. Well, my mom comes into my room
- 3:10Speaker 2: one day and says, Mike, incredible news. The animal shelter called.
- 3:14Speaker 2: They found Thumper. He's like halfway between Hamilton and Fairfield.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Poor doggie was trying to run back, probably to our
- 3:21Speaker 2: original home, and they found him. He's at the shelter.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Let's go get him. We can go get him. And
- 3:26Speaker 2: we had thrown away the dog bowls, the dog food,
- 3:29Speaker 2: the leash is going to so we go back out
- 3:30Speaker 2: bought more dog food bowls. Now, my mom was supposed
- 3:34Speaker 2: to go pick him up. She says, I'll go get him.
- 3:35Speaker 2: She was supposed to go on a Wednesday, but she
- 3:38Speaker 2: had to get her hair done or something, so she
- 3:39Speaker 2: waited a day. In the day that she waited, well,
- 3:43Speaker 2: guess what. She comes home crying and she said, Mike,
- 3:46Speaker 2: I've got bad news. Thumper's little heart gave out. He
- 3:50Speaker 2: ran so far trying to get home into trying to
- 3:52Speaker 2: find us, that he passed away and his heart gave
- 3:56Speaker 2: out and he died, and I'm so sorry, Mike. Was
- 3:59Speaker 2: years years later, my evil sister BS. Well it was
- 4:05Speaker 2: BS because years leader later my sister confirmed that because
- 4:09Speaker 2: my mom waited a day, they put Thumper down his
- 4:12Speaker 2: time came. They euthanized Thumper because Mom didn't pick him
- 4:16Speaker 2: up when she was supposed to. So and I sat
- 4:19Speaker 2: on the air, and you wonder why I am the
- 4:21Speaker 2: way I am these days? You know, my issues have.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Issues, so this explains much.
- 4:26Speaker 2: So so so then I get it. But then I
- 4:28Speaker 2: get an email. Hold, somebody said, hold my beer, this
- 4:32Speaker 2: is Linda in Wisconsin. Mike. My heart broke over the
- 4:36Speaker 2: story you told today about Thumper and how your mom
- 4:39Speaker 2: led to Thumper. Now, I know the love of a dog,
- 4:42Speaker 2: and I know a pet rabbit probably doesn't compare, But
- 4:44Speaker 2: when you're a little child, it doesn't matter. You love
- 4:47Speaker 2: your pet rabbit. One day I came home from school.
- 4:49Speaker 2: My beloved little bunny was gone. I was told its
- 4:53Speaker 2: mother came to bring it home. Many years later, I
- 4:56Speaker 2: found out that my grandfather had barbecued the rabbit. I
- 5:00Speaker 2: asked if Grandpa had cooked my rabbit and was told
- 5:02Speaker 2: yes he had. In fact, we probably helped eat it.
- 5:05Speaker 1: That's good eating, that's tasty memes.
- 5:06Speaker 2: So at least I didn't eat well, at least my
- 5:08Speaker 2: mom didn't cook Thumber that I didn't eat.
- 5:11Speaker 1: The dog could have been better. And as far as
- 5:13Speaker 1: your Thumber one Thumber two, there there's there's a family
- 5:16Speaker 1: I love that I was trying to remember. I just
- 5:18Speaker 1: couldn't remember the dog's name. Were you a fan of
- 5:20Speaker 1: Duck Dynasty in its day?
- 5:21Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, sure?
- 5:22Speaker 1: And the Robertsons and that is all grown up now
- 5:24Speaker 1: and doing fantastic things. They sort of tried to bring
- 5:27Speaker 1: that thing back. I can't go home again. But back
- 5:30Speaker 1: in its heyday, great Phil Robertson, May God rest him.
- 5:33Speaker 1: He and Miss Kay had a series of rat terriers,
- 5:35Speaker 1: one of my favorite breeds. We've had two and it
- 5:38Speaker 1: was Bobo and then Bobo Bobo would die, and then
- 5:41Speaker 1: I think they had multiple Bobos at the same time. Yeah,
- 5:44Speaker 1: the notion of honoring I just I just don't know
- 5:46Speaker 1: if I would.
- 5:47Speaker 2: I've never heard anybody question this before, No one's ever.
- 5:50Speaker 2: I had Thumper one, Thumper two, then there was Thumber three.
- 5:53Speaker 2: I think I had four Thumpers and.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Lack of imagination or is it just kind of honor.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Yeah, no, a black cocker spaniel. It's like what I
- 6:03Speaker 2: was kind of my family thing.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Were they were they? Okay? Were they all black cocker spaniel?
- 6:08Speaker 2: They were all black cocker spaniels. And they all had
- 6:10Speaker 2: like white streaks in their chest, would like white patches
- 6:14Speaker 2: in their chest.
- 6:15Speaker 1: And it was very shopping. You go to the breeder.
- 6:18Speaker 1: I don't remember that how.
- 6:19Speaker 2: We did it.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Would you have ever considered having a brown cocker spaniel
- 6:23Speaker 1: and naming that dog.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Thumper or no, no, have to no, no, only a
- 6:27Speaker 2: black cotton in that case.
- 6:28Speaker 1: This is getting very Tom Brady. This is getting very
- 6:31Speaker 1: weird like that.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Well, let's talk weird. Let's talk weird.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Because Tom Brady cloned his dead dog.
- 6:38Speaker 2: So did Barbara Streischan. What Barbara Streichan cloned her dog?
- 6:42Speaker 2: She had a little, uh, furry little love you know,
- 6:45Speaker 2: little one of those little yappy dogs, and that she adored,
- 6:50Speaker 2: and she had him cloned.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Okay, had him cloned.
- 6:53Speaker 2: All right, let's talk even more weird. Meet Stephanie Krueger,
- 6:58Speaker 2: a nurse from Tampa, Florida. She previously worked for a
- 7:02Speaker 2: place called Cross Country Healthcare. She was evidently a nurse anesthesiologist.
- 7:09Speaker 1: What I'm noticing the past tense here? M M.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Well, that's because she posted on social media, on TikTok
- 7:15Speaker 2: with in her scrubs and her little face mask and
- 7:17Speaker 2: her little little little cap there that nurses wear in
- 7:20Speaker 2: the operating room. Of course, she wrote, can someone explain
- 7:23Speaker 2: to me why a patient would want to voice their
- 7:25Speaker 2: strong political and social views right before going under anesthesia?
- 7:30Speaker 2: Like you are about to be paralyzed, sir? Now, she
- 7:35Speaker 2: posted on social media. Now, thankfully it's Florida. Where you FAFO?
- 7:40Speaker 2: The Attorney General Florida said, sorry, no, can't do. You're out.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Not only are you fired? Of course, then they fired
- 7:47Speaker 2: her immediately. They're going to take her license from her.
- 7:50Speaker 2: You can't threaten somebody physic. But here's the thing, how
- 7:54Speaker 2: do you not know by now if you're going to
- 7:57Speaker 2: post this, if you're a healthcare professional and you're gonna
- 7:59Speaker 2: wish harm on mega because of their political beliefs, and
- 8:03Speaker 2: you're going to kill them or maim them or paralyze
- 8:05Speaker 2: them or suffocate them, because you're a nurse or a
- 8:08Speaker 2: physician's assistant, you have to know if you're going to
- 8:11Speaker 2: post it on social media. This could come back to
- 8:14Speaker 2: bite you. So of course, my question for you, my
- 8:16Speaker 2: smart friend, no, here we go, is the desire to
- 8:21Speaker 2: brag about having the ability to do bodily harm to
- 8:26Speaker 2: a patient who has a conservative political viewpoint more important
- 8:31Speaker 2: to them than keeping their job, their career, their reputation,
- 8:35Speaker 2: their livelihood.
- 8:36Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, in that moment, yes, and I have
- 8:39Speaker 1: a permission to offer a parallel Okay, like Richard credit,
- 8:43Speaker 1: it's like a hit of crack. It's like drugs. It's
- 8:46Speaker 1: right in front of your face. The temptation is there.
- 8:48Speaker 1: You might think for a moment that down the road
- 8:50Speaker 1: it might not work so well, but you just want
- 8:52Speaker 1: it so much right there. You want that high, You
- 8:54Speaker 1: want that hit. So they do it, and then when
- 8:56Speaker 1: it turns around and bites them in the butt, it's like, WHOA,
- 8:58Speaker 1: if only I'd been thinking, Well, they're not thinking because
- 9:01Speaker 1: they're so driven by the compulsion, so driven by the
- 9:04Speaker 1: TDS addiction, so driven by their own political bile. They
- 9:07Speaker 1: can't think past the next five minutes.
- 9:09Speaker 2: So in them, they're in the moment, and they're so
- 9:11Speaker 2: consumed with that hatred for for Maga and and somebody
- 9:16Speaker 2: who doesn't think the way they do, they get there
- 9:19Speaker 2: and then but now then then now they're the victim
- 9:22Speaker 2: because then they go to gofund me. You know, I'm
- 9:24Speaker 2: out of work and I've been fired. Look forget, but
- 9:27Speaker 2: forget even My question is forget getting her fired or
- 9:32Speaker 2: even losing her license? Should that be a criminal charge?
- 9:35Speaker 2: I should think that's a crime to threaten somebody's life
- 9:39Speaker 2: because you're a nurse and you have the ability to
- 9:41Speaker 2: cut off their anesthesia and paralyze them.
- 9:43Speaker 1: I think, ever, if it ever translated to somebody who
- 9:46Speaker 1: actually even remotely did it or took steps to do it,
- 9:49Speaker 1: because I think what you have in the story you've
- 9:52Speaker 1: described is just somebody being mouthy, somebody being obnoxious.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Maybe, uh well, if she definitely needs to lose your.
- 9:58Speaker 1: License, most and this is what is so weird, these
- 10:02Speaker 1: people in these professions of caring, these professions that are
- 10:05Speaker 1: the salt of the earth, in healthcare teachers. It's I
- 10:10Speaker 1: just don't know, and it's funny. And this takes a
- 10:13Speaker 1: place we occasionally visit. Are there mean people on the right,
- 10:17Speaker 1: Sure there are, But there's something about the cruelty of
- 10:19Speaker 1: the left that is particularly stringent at the moment. Have
- 10:22Speaker 1: you heard about the new John Fetterman memoir Unfettered. He's
- 10:25Speaker 1: read in the book. He's on the interview tour for that,
- 10:27Speaker 1: and he said, look, as a Democrat, I've had your
- 10:31Speaker 1: Republicans say some rough, sharp, elbowed, you know things to me.
- 10:35Speaker 1: But there's nothing like the cruelty of the left, where
- 10:38Speaker 1: like you need to die of another stroke. There is.
- 10:40Speaker 1: And this John Feeder say.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Look at the Nancy Guthrie thing, and that, by the way,
- 10:44Speaker 2: is going to lead me to question two for my
- 10:46Speaker 2: smart friend and the coverage of it. But here's my
- 10:49Speaker 2: look at Nancy Guthrie. Apparently there were social media posts
- 10:54Speaker 2: that surfaced that she was not a fan of Donald Trump.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Now I don't know, you never know on the Internet
- 10:58Speaker 2: of any of this is true or not. We do
- 11:00Speaker 2: know that her daughter was really hard on Trump, and
- 11:03Speaker 2: a lot of people assume that looks she's part of
- 11:05Speaker 2: the may Nobody is jubilant or euphoric or positive about
- 11:10Speaker 2: this horrific story on our side. What they do. I
- 11:13Speaker 2: to Charlie Kirk took a bullet to the neck. They celebrated,
- 11:17Speaker 2: So we're not the same. There's a cruelty on the
- 11:19Speaker 2: left that we, most of us, don't possess and you're right,
- 11:22Speaker 2: there's plenty of mean people on our side. We go
- 11:25Speaker 2: too far, but there's outliers on every side. But as
- 11:28Speaker 2: a movement, as as an ideology, brings me to Nancy Guthrie.
- 11:32Speaker 2: I settled in last night, had dinner, you know, with
- 11:35Speaker 2: nice evening, Peg and Joey. Final day in South Carolina.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Head back to Tampa this afternoon. Settle into the hotel.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Turn on Fox News. I want to find out about
- 11:43Speaker 2: the Save Act. I want to hear about the Pambondy circus.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Absolutely, stuff going on in the news. What do I
- 11:49Speaker 1: need to be? Stuff going on?
- 11:51Speaker 2: Turn on Jesse Waters non stop, Nancy Guthrie, Turn on
- 11:55Speaker 2: Sean Hannity, non stop Nancy Guthrie. At one point, Nancy
- 12:00Speaker 2: Grace and bless her heart. I'm sure she's a nice lady.
- 12:05Speaker 2: I don't know anything about her. I never met her.
- 12:07Speaker 2: She's a total cartoon character. She's screaming and I'm watching
- 12:12Speaker 2: her scream about nothing. She's pointing at the camera. Sean's
- 12:17Speaker 2: interviewing her. I don't know what she's yelling about because
- 12:20Speaker 2: she isn't saying anything. Nobody's saying anything because nothing has
- 12:25Speaker 2: happened nothing has happened in this case, Mark, Why are
- 12:30Speaker 2: they going non stop, relentless, mind numbing coverage of this
- 12:36Speaker 2: thing when nothing has happened?
- 12:38Speaker 1: And is there something ideological about it? Because as the
- 12:42Speaker 1: when I finished the show yesterday, we're reaching toward the
- 12:44Speaker 1: lunch hower and I'm sort of diving around the cable
- 12:46Speaker 1: channel see what's going on. Fox is doing wall to
- 12:49Speaker 1: wall Nancy Guthrie CNN covering the Pam BONDI hearings live.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Huh what there are actual other things happening. And again,
- 12:57Speaker 1: God listening to you got to please let her be found?
- 12:59Speaker 1: Please let her be found? Is there an ideological tilt?
- 13:02Speaker 1: Do they perceive that the Fox audience has more of
- 13:04Speaker 1: a thirst for NonStop wald wall Nancy Guthrie coverage? And
- 13:07Speaker 1: if so, are they right? And the answer to your
- 13:09Speaker 1: question maybe the once you've gone wall to wall, how
- 13:12Speaker 1: do you stop? Does he get out of it? Does
- 13:14Speaker 1: it make it look like, well, we don't care anymore?
- 13:16Speaker 1: He's dead? I mean, are something that brash? I don't know,
- 13:19Speaker 1: but they have painted themselves into a corner.
- 13:22Speaker 2: I've known Sean for a lot of years. He and
- 13:24Speaker 2: I worked together WABC in New York. I consider him
- 13:27Speaker 2: a friend. I'm not saying this is a criticism of him.
- 13:29Speaker 2: He's very competitive. He studied, is it he's study? He
- 13:33Speaker 2: studies numbers. Sean absolutely lives and dies by ratings, and Chris.
- 13:37Speaker 2: We all do to some extent, but Sewn in particular
- 13:40Speaker 2: it must rate well. They might because TV has an
- 13:44Speaker 2: ability to look at those quarter hours and they say, oh,
- 13:46Speaker 2: we got a spike here, we got a spike there.
- 13:48Speaker 2: I guess Nancy Grace gets a spike because he puts
- 13:51Speaker 2: her on every night and I'm pulling my hair out,
- 13:54Speaker 2: thinking what what is she doing? But it all I
- 13:57Speaker 2: can figure is it rates well. It's kind of sad
- 14:00Speaker 2: because I keep thinking about people whose loved ones have
- 14:03Speaker 2: been abducted or are missing or have been killed too.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Aren't who aren't famous, And we've gone from Nancy Auguthrie
- 14:09Speaker 1: of fatigue to full on Nancy Guthrie pushback. And if
- 14:13Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, that must be damage coverage. Yeah, It's
- 14:16Speaker 1: like what are we the people are offended by the
- 14:18Speaker 1: glut of coverage? I consider a little odd too. But
- 14:21Speaker 1: here's the thing. For every loud lot, for the loud
- 14:24Speaker 1: contingent you might find complaining about Nancy Guthrie coverage. If maybe,
- 14:29Speaker 1: if that's ten percent, that's still a lot of noise
- 14:31Speaker 1: in eighty or ninety percent. You remember OJ, everybody said, oh,
- 14:34Speaker 1: I'm sick of OJ coverage. I'm sick of OJ coverage.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Eighty percent of everybody was bathed in OJ coverage. Might
- 14:40Speaker 1: be the same here. I don't know.
- 14:42Speaker 2: I wonder are.
- 14:42Speaker 1: People glued to this?
- 14:44Speaker 2: I mean, at least I understand that they are.
- 14:46Speaker 1: I check back every once in a while and say,
- 14:49Speaker 1: have they founder is there anything new? If the answer
- 14:51Speaker 1: is no, I get back to my life.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Well they don't. They're not getting back to anything other
- 14:55Speaker 2: than oh, look there's look, there's a there's an FBI
- 14:58Speaker 2: agent in the field looking on or a rock.
- 15:00Speaker 1: At least it's an FBI agent. The Fox News website.
- 15:03Speaker 1: This morning, neighbors have shared a take. A neighbors share
- 15:08Speaker 1: to take about what she thinks of the guy on
- 15:10Speaker 1: the video that maybe it's some shared yard workers. We're
- 15:15Speaker 1: combing the neighborhood for hot takes. Now anyway, look.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Well, good to hear your hot takes. And I've got,
- 15:23Speaker 2: by the way, the very best take of the day.
- 15:25Speaker 2: I'm going to leave you with the single funniest, most
- 15:30Speaker 2: perfect take on the voter ID controversy. It came from
- 15:34Speaker 2: Matt Walsh. Do you mind if I share with you
- 15:35Speaker 2: the thirty seconds we have left? This is this is
- 15:38Speaker 2: so good, This is the best take. Matt Walsh wrote,
- 15:41Speaker 2: Conservatives generally defend voter ID laws, and the House, as
- 15:44Speaker 2: we know yesterday passed it. Thank goodness. Now it goes
- 15:47Speaker 2: to the Senate by insisting that all voters will be
- 15:50Speaker 2: able to figure out how to get a valid ID,
- 15:52Speaker 2: so the law doesn't disenfranchise anyone. But the truth is
- 15:55Speaker 2: a certain small percentage of voters actually won't be able
- 15:58Speaker 2: to figure it out, which means that a certain percentage
- 16:00Speaker 2: will be de facto disenfranchised, Matt Walls says. And that
- 16:04Speaker 2: is all the more reason to put these laws into place,
- 16:06Speaker 2: because if you're so dumb, befuddled and incompetent that you
- 16:09Speaker 2: can't manage to perform such a basic task, then you're
- 16:13Speaker 2: not qualified to vote. You don't deserve to have a
- 16:15Speaker 2: say over the direction of the country. Stay home and
- 16:18Speaker 2: let the adults handle it.
- 16:19Speaker 1: How good is that for the win? There you go, strong, finish,
- 16:24Speaker 1: Thank you man. Mike Gallagher Ready to go ten o'clock
- 16:26Speaker 1: as soon as we're done right here on six sixty am.
- 16:28Speaker 1: The answer