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SEE GOP Senator Predict DEFEAT We will lose, Tillis tells Ari amid Blue Wave signs · INSIGHT TODAY

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  Speaker 1: And signs rocking Trump and the Republicans as they are
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  Speaker 1: clearly on defense, even in red states.
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  Speaker 2: Here's news.
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  Speaker 1: The president will be in Nebraska, of all places, next
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  Speaker 1: hour because Republicans are, according to The Hill, fretting over
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  Speaker 1: the Senate race there.
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  Speaker 2: And if they are fretting in.
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  Speaker 1: Public headlines, you can imagine what the private conversations are like.
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  Speaker 1: Trump was just in Texas, a place that he would
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  Speaker 1: not have thought two years ago he'd be campaigning to
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  Speaker 1: defend a Senate seat.
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  Speaker 2: But of course, that was two years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Not only have things changed, but Donald Trump's intervention in
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  Speaker 1: that race has made it harder for Republicans to win,
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  Speaker 1: something that everybody knows. So he's trying to buck up
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  Speaker 1: the MAGA candidate there, Ken Paxton. And for the second
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  Speaker 1: time in two weeks, we have insight, factually, into what's
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  Speaker 1: going on, as I mentioned, behind closed doors, where sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you get a more unvarnished view.
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  Speaker 2: The leaks are coming from people who are apparently.
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  Speaker 1: Close to the Paxton campaign, because this is leaked audio
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  Speaker 1: of him talking in a way that seems to blame Trump.
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  Speaker 1: It's a new tape that was obtained by Politico, again,
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  Speaker 1: where Paxton is in what is supposed to be a
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  Speaker 1: private setting of allies, people who actually.
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  Speaker 2: Give him money, who presumably want him to win, as
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  Speaker 2: well as lobbyists.
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  Speaker 1: As with all journalistic sourcing, we don't know exactly why
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  Speaker 1: someone in that room or someone who knew someone in
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  Speaker 1: that room eventually got the tape out, but the veracity
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  Speaker 1: is not really in doubt tonight. He is recorded saying
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  Speaker 1: that He laments he's not really even in control of
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  Speaker 1: his campaign all the time. Things coming from D.C., whether
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  Speaker 1: that's a reference to Trump, can be debated, but we
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  Speaker 1: will listen here to the leaked audio.
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  Speaker 3: I've never been in a race where I felt less
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  Speaker 3: control over the campaign and what issues are going to
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  Speaker 3: matter because it's all coming from D.C. and I don't
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  Speaker 3: control the message or what we're doing, which in a
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  Speaker 3: federal race comes from other people a lot of times,
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  Speaker 3: which you don't control. I don't have the ability to
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  Speaker 3: change anything, so I have to live with whatever I've got.
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  Speaker 3: So it is a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: The bottom line is that doesn't sound like someone who's saying,
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  Speaker 1: we got this, we're winning, and we want the credit.
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  Speaker 1: It almost sounds like what you hear sometimes in the
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  Speaker 1: run-up to election days when things have kind of broken
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  Speaker 1: down and you get those early leaks of people trying
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  Speaker 1: to get ahead of their own loss.
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  Speaker 2: Now, again, this is up to the voters.
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  Speaker 1: If Paxton wins, these audio tapes will probably evaporate like
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  Speaker 1: so much political piffle.
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  Speaker 2: But if he loses.
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  Speaker 1: Tapes like this will be the kind of early warning
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  Speaker 1: shot that he was trying to tell at least donors
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  Speaker 1: and maybe someone who wanted to leak this to upset
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  Speaker 1: Trump or draw attention to the problem that whatever plays
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  Speaker 1: are being run out of D.C., he doesn't think they're
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  Speaker 1: working in Texas, to which many observers would say, duh,
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  Speaker 1: Texas isn't even supposed to be this close. New polling
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  Speaker 1: shows Paxton trailing the Democrat there, James Tallarico, by.
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  Speaker 2: About six points. That's beyond the margin of error.
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  Speaker 1: The Times report in the path to control the Senate
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  Speaker 1: for the Dems is now, quote, widening.
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  Speaker 2: As the party's fortunes improve in.
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  Speaker 1: Five red states, which they call reliably Republican, Alaska, Iowa, Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: the aforementioned Texas, and even Kansas. There's also new reporting
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  Speaker 1: on five Republican senators who are not on the ballot,
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  Speaker 1: but criticize Trump on the economy, where it is just
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  Speaker 1: not okay anymore, even in red states, to go along
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  Speaker 1: with the Trump spin that the economy is somehow good,
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  Speaker 1: or these are little things, as J.D.
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  Speaker 2: Vance said.
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  Speaker 1: People are upset. They cannot afford gas and groceries. Credit
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  Speaker 1: card debt is booming. Trump's tariffs and war have made
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  Speaker 1: life harder. Take Republican Kennedy from Louisiana.
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  Speaker 4: I think the biggest issue is cost of living. I
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  Speaker 4: think we have to tell the American people the truth.
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  Speaker 4: Telling them not to believe their own lying checkbooks is
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  Speaker 4: not going to work.
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  Speaker 2: Not going to work.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats, meanwhile, targeting six more districts where Trump had double
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  Speaker 1: digit wins again just in the last.
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  Speaker 2: Cycle, November 24.
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  Speaker 1: There's polling that shows now Americans are identifying more as
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  Speaker 1: Democrats than Republicans by an.
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  Speaker 2: 11 point margin.
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  Speaker 1: That's a long ways from where we were in, again,
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  Speaker 1: November to January when Trump was reelected and people thought
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  Speaker 1: MAGA was somehow ascendant or cool, not out in the
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  Speaker 1: country now. That is the biggest edge, if you're counting
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  Speaker 1: on that question, since 2009, back during that early, calmer,
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  Speaker 1: hopeful euphoria of the new Obama administration. So in the book,
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  Speaker 1: you talk about Republicans against Trump. We all follow, our
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  Speaker 1: viewers follow this closely. We only hear about a couple
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  Speaker 1: in the Senate, you being one of them, and we
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  Speaker 1: can get into that.
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  Speaker 2: You say, though.
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  Speaker 5: My Republican colleagues, quote, at least 30 by my count
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  Speaker 5: expressed reservations, mildly you say, to put it mildly, about
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  Speaker 5: many of Trump's actions in private.
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  Speaker 2: That's the majority of your caucus.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying they're all like Tillis level or more
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  Speaker 1: and they're too scared to say it in public?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's all transactional. What I didn't mean
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  Speaker 2: is there's a group.
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  Speaker 6: Of 30 people that if they spoke out, it's like
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  Speaker 6: my position on Warsh, for example, or Jay Powell. And
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  Speaker 6: so it's not like there's a coalition that agrees on that,
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  Speaker 6: that every disagreement that I've had with the president, they
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  Speaker 6: agree with.
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  Speaker 2: But but there are.
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  Speaker 6: Enough people that that for a variety of reasons are
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  Speaker 6: not stepping up.
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  Speaker 1: But most of them are quiet, you're saying.
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  Speaker 6: They are or they work maybe more quietly than I do.
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  Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, if you don't
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  Speaker 6: use the devices of power, you know, the thing I
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  Speaker 6: love most about this job is some of my my
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  Speaker 6: greatest accomplishments using leverage.
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  Speaker 2: You all will never know about it because you can
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  Speaker 2: tell us. I know, but I don't want to.
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  Speaker 6: OK, because I want to prove the point that when
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  Speaker 6: senators use the leverage they have that come from a
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  Speaker 6: Senate that has a filibuster. They can be enormously powerful
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  Speaker 6: and they can help their president. This is all about
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  Speaker 6: helping the president of the United States who happens to
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  Speaker 6: be a Republican. Why would anybody think as a lifelong Republican,
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  Speaker 6: I would knowingly do something that would hurt our party?
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  Speaker 2: He's the head of the party.
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  Speaker 6: I'm supporting the president because he's the head of the party,
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  Speaker 6: not because he's Donald J. Trump, but because he is
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  Speaker 6: the face of our party. And I want my party
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  Speaker 6: to be in the best position for elections. And we're
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  Speaker 6: going to take a little bit of a hit this season.
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  Speaker 6: How big of a hit?
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  Speaker 2: You think you're going to lose the House?
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  Speaker 6: I think the House is almost statistically impossible to win.
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  Speaker 2: Lose the House, probably lose the Senate.
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm not in the probably yet. I think we'd
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  Speaker 6: pull it out. It will be a tight margin, but
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  Speaker 6: I still think we'd pull it out. Because we've got
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  Speaker 6: great candidates in Maine, Ohio, Arkansas, they've just got to
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  Speaker 6: run hard and we've got to support them. I want
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  Speaker 6: to stick a fork in this turkey of a 1776 fund.
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  Speaker 2: I see a problem. I want to solve it. This
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  Speaker 2: is a problem. It should never be paid out.
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  Speaker 6: Some of your statements seem to contradict what you said
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  Speaker 6: in the prior hearing.
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  Speaker 2: Just want an answer for it. What we've seen is
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  Speaker 2: a disaster. Under your leadership, Ms. Noem, a disaster.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'm pretty well staked out on my assessment
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  Speaker 6: of Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Hagson. We've got a management problem here. He needs to go.
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  Speaker 1: You call for Hegseth to be ousted or resign. We
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  Speaker 1: see the clashes there. I appreciate you coming and taking
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  Speaker 1: all the questions. So I'm going to say it respectfully,
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  Speaker 1: but clearly. If that Tom Tillis is right about all
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  Speaker 1: those problems, why didn't Tom Tillis stop any of those nominations?
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  Speaker 1: As you know, you confirmed all of.
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  Speaker 2: Them in the book. You talk about some regrets. Walk
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  Speaker 2: us through that.
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  Speaker 6: Look, when you're on a committee of jurisdiction, I put
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  Speaker 6: a lot of weight on those members. I wrote a
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  Speaker 6: letter to the colleagues saying, I'm going to be a
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  Speaker 6: presumptive yes if we have unanimous Republican votes coming out
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  Speaker 6: of the committee. The Democrats are looking when a president
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  Speaker 6: is standing up his cabinet. Democrats are just dying for
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  Speaker 6: that one big visible loss.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, people.
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  Speaker 6: Forget that when Matt Gaetz was put forward, I quietly
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  Speaker 6: went to the White House, went to Matt and said,
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  Speaker 6: this is not a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to be successful.
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  Speaker 6: My goal was to try and get as many cabinet
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  Speaker 6: members in place as quickly as possible for the president.
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  Speaker 6: And if I could not find something that was disqualifying
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  Speaker 6: on my own that I felt like I could take
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  Speaker 6: to a committee member and convince them, then I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to defer to the committee member. That was the hiring decision.
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  Speaker 6: Now he's getting his annual evaluation and he's failed.
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  Speaker 2: I've hired people that I've fired before. He has failed.
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  Speaker 2: I gave him the benefit of the doubt. The committee
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  Speaker 2: gave him the benefit of the doubt.
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  Speaker 6: Very few people now, I think, knowing what they know now,
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  Speaker 6: I don't think you get a unanimous vote out of
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  Speaker 6: the same Senate Armed Services Committee because he has failed
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  Speaker 6: to execute.
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