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Are the Indiana Hoosiers the Team to Beat in the College Football Playoffs? · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Good even everybody will welcome to another edition of the
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  Speaker 1: Sports Have Change. What a group I have here. My
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  Speaker 1: colleague Scott Soloman is on tonight. We're gonna talk a
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  Speaker 1: lot of basketball, some football, and a few off the
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  Speaker 1: wall topics. Glad to have you on, partner, glad to
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  Speaker 1: be here. And Candy Aveline, glad to have you.
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  Speaker 2: On as well.
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  Speaker 3: Always glad to be here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, And of.
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  Speaker 1: Course Marvin Paul the Third, I drag him everywhere and
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad he just keep coming around from the ride.
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  Speaker 4: Marvin, It's a blessing. Scott, definitely thankful to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you're on here as well.
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  Speaker 5: George Reichord back, Yes, sir, good to be on. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: The show that we created back in the nineteen eighties.
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  Speaker 1: Those at Georgia, I think, yeah, sure, we brought it
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  Speaker 1: into this other century. We're keeping it really pretty easy.
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  Speaker 1: Say so nobody forgets about the name or anything else
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  Speaker 1: and laugh or not. Leads Jacob Chrisper, who's definitely ended
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  Speaker 1: as I mentioned.
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  Speaker 6: Late New Hey, how's it going. How's it going on?
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  Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to tonight. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be talking a lot of basketball, talking some football and
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  Speaker 1: if you off the wall topics. So let's get to it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I really like to
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  Speaker 1: talk about is when it comes to athletes is that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about athletes that own states and
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  Speaker 1: professional sports teams. This is a really interesting topic. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna list a lot of the names and then I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and mention where they're at. You've got
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes actually owned has stints in Major League Baseball,
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  Speaker 1: National Women's Soccer League, Major League Soccer, Major League pickleball.
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  Speaker 1: That's another one, and formula one. Lebron James is involved
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  Speaker 1: with Major League Baseball, the NHL, the Premier League in NASCAR,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, National Women's Soccer League, Major League Soccer, Major
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  Speaker 1: League pickleball. Again, Major League pickleball is one that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people are definitely going to be taken note of.
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  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett the NBA and MLP as then Major League pickleball,
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  Speaker 1: Naomi Osaka the tennis player, National Women's Soccer League and
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  Speaker 1: Major League pickleball. And you've got let's see, I got her,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got James Harden National Women's Soccer League mL less.
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  Speaker 1: Giannis is actually involved with MLB and it looks like
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  Speaker 1: mL laughs. A lot of the Milwaukee teams out there,
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  Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers all with the NBA, and Lewis Hamilton
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Let me continue that a little bit
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  Speaker 1: to go into some of the specifics with Patrick Mahone
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  Speaker 1: oes Alpine an F one team, Miami Pickleball Sporting Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City KC two and the Kansas City Royals. Lebron James
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  Speaker 1: is a part of the Boston Red Sox of Pittsburgh Penguins,
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  Speaker 1: Liverpool and RFK Racing, Kevin Durant, New York Women's Soccer,
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Union, DC Pickleball. Miles Garrett actually has the Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: Cavaliers Major League Pickleball the only OSAKA and dealing with
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  Speaker 1: NC Courage as a North Carolina Courgeon, the MIAMA Pickleball Club,
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  Speaker 1: James Harden, Houston Dash and the Houston Dynamo in the
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  Speaker 1: guianis as the Milwaukee Brewers and an MLLLS team, Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers of Milwaukee Bucks, Lewis Hamilton of the Denver Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: and the NWSL teams. Actually you have Angel City, Florida
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  Speaker 1: Bay Football Club New Jersey, New York, Gotham Football Club, Denver,
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City Current, and Houston Dash also are some of
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  Speaker 1: the things. So with that said, I know I set
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  Speaker 1: it off a lot here, but we'll start with you, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about some of these athletes, the
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  Speaker 1: way they've gone out there and decided, you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and stay competitive with these different sports.
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  Speaker 7: It's a good investment for most of these guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: they if they lose money, they could use the write off.
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  Speaker 7: But it's a lot of fun to own some of
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  Speaker 7: these teams. I believe that Patrick Mahomes is probably the
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  Speaker 7: veiggest outside of Tom Brady, who owns a portion of
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  Speaker 7: the Las Vegas Raiders, which is another story about whether
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  Speaker 7: or not owners should be in the commentary booth. But
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  Speaker 7: I have no problem with the athletes owning teams and Candy.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a smart investment for athletes. They are
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  Speaker 3: part of a sports teams where they know how an
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  Speaker 3: organization is run. Now do they know all the business
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  Speaker 3: side of it, No, but I think they learn it.
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  Speaker 3: And most of them are a minority or owner, not
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  Speaker 3: like the majority owner and have big say. But it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of cool because, let's face it, these guys have
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  Speaker 3: make their contracts are millions and millions of dollars, and
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  Speaker 3: what else should they invest in? Why not invest in?
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  Speaker 3: Some of them are investing in the city that they
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  Speaker 3: play in, too, which is cool. You know, I'd like
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  Speaker 3: to see it, why not.
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  Speaker 4: Marvin, Yeah, listen, I'm happy to see a new narrative,
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  Speaker 4: new facts, better information. I'm happy to see us go
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  Speaker 4: from you know, athletes make this money and spend it
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  Speaker 4: and go broke. So you see, you know, this new
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  Speaker 4: generation obviously paying attention to the times and just seeing
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  Speaker 4: opportunities and because of our celebrity, being afforded opportunities to invest.
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  Speaker 4: And it's great to see these guys business minded and
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  Speaker 4: thinking big, you know, thinking about actually ownership, you know,
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  Speaker 4: thinking about equity. You know. Canny you know, brings up
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  Speaker 4: a point that it's small, but you know it's relevant
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  Speaker 4: and it's something, you know what I'm saying, And it's
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  Speaker 4: a start, you know what I mean. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: think it's outstanding. I think it's a great narrative for
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  Speaker 4: the NFL as a whole. You know, nowadays, we we
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  Speaker 4: live in a day where we always want to through
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  Speaker 4: social media, you know, get a feel for how people
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  Speaker 4: are living and what their day to day is, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, what do they do, whether they are hobbies
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  Speaker 4: you know. Now we live in a world where you know,
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  Speaker 4: you could find out people's investments and it's talked about
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  Speaker 4: and it's open and it's out there. So yeah, this
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  Speaker 4: is all good news, all good stuff to hear. I
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  Speaker 4: think Pat Mahomes and Lebron are making the biggest moves.
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  Speaker 4: I know Lebron has some has some money in that
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  Speaker 4: Premier league. I think I think as a minority, but
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  Speaker 4: at decent stake, maybe it's two percent. I heard something
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  Speaker 4: like that. But it's good man, it's good stuff, and
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  Speaker 4: I hope that this continues.
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  Speaker 5: George, Well, the thing that strikes me is, you know, diversity. Diversity. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: so when you're an athlete, you know, you just don't
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  Speaker 5: want to stick with your sport. Some don't want to
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  Speaker 5: do that, and so they're they're interested in a soccer
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  Speaker 5: team where they're interested in a women's w NBA team.
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  Speaker 5: Magic Johnson, I mean, I mean, you know Los Angeles Dodgers.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you mentioned about, of course, our guy Michael
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  Speaker 5: Jordan with NASCAR, and that's a whole other subject because
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  Speaker 5: there's a lawsuit going right now. But it's great to see.
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  Speaker 5: It's great to see they're diversifying their portfolio, as a
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  Speaker 5: financial advisor might say to us, giving us some advice.
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  Speaker 5: But you know what, I think it is great too,
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  Speaker 5: especially when you know Patrick with his own home team,
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  Speaker 5: Kansas City Royals. I mean, that's great, and it is.
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  Speaker 5: It is diversification, I think is one of the main
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  Speaker 5: factors of it. But it's a great topic, Scott. I'm
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  Speaker 5: glad you brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: Problem I got another one that'll follow it ahead, Jacob Martin.
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  Speaker 8: All they're trying to do is came up with Marvin's
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  Speaker 8: big millions that he has in his bank. You know,
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  Speaker 8: that's they're trying to.
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  Speaker 6: Keep up with you man.
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  Speaker 8: But but the big, but the big thing is remember
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  Speaker 8: this part too, and he'll you'll remember this part. It's like,
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  Speaker 8: it's the one thing I did not get on Caleb
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  Speaker 8: Williams for the one thing he tried to make his
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  Speaker 8: first the rookie contract to an LLC.
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  Speaker 6: So their their business minds are smarter than they ever were.
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  Speaker 6: That's a good it was. That was one of the
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  Speaker 6: things I wasn't getting on into Caleb for is his
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  Speaker 6: business mind. He does have that. So there's that. But
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  Speaker 6: think about this for a second.
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  Speaker 8: I was talking to like talking to somebody today and
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  Speaker 8: it's from my hometown, and they were there's a new
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  Speaker 8: pickleball area in my city and they're saying, is that
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  Speaker 8: gonna kill the tennis area?
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  Speaker 6: I said, yep, because pickleball is getting bigger.
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  Speaker 8: And when the pickle ball is getting bigger, it means
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  Speaker 8: that you're seeing all of these athletes investing in their teams.
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  Speaker 8: You're seeing all of that. And so that's where I
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  Speaker 8: know it's getting bigger. And then you have Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 8: with his wife and you might have brought that up,
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  Speaker 8: but Kansas City, right, you know, in Kansas City and everything,
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  Speaker 8: and then the women's soccer team they're so And the
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  Speaker 8: one thing I'm proud I'm with Marvin on that. The
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  Speaker 8: one thing I'm proud of is that the movie Broke
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  Speaker 8: is almost a comedy now that it could not be
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  Speaker 8: made anymore. It's because people are starting to understand. They're
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  Speaker 8: going to those consortiums now and during this thing, and
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  Speaker 8: they're seeing that you need to make your money, that
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  Speaker 8: you need to invest your money and need you do
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  Speaker 8: all that stuff that we're not going to see them.
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  Speaker 8: We might see a few go broke, but it's not
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  Speaker 8: going to be the norm anymore. Like before it used
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  Speaker 8: to be sixty seventy percent, and now it's like, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: now it's going to be I bet you it'll be
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  Speaker 8: fifteen to twenty you know by the time five years here.
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  Speaker 8: It's just because so many athletes are learning about money now.
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  Speaker 1: So here here are some of the ones that really
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  Speaker 1: stand out to me. You mentioned it, Jacob, but got
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Royals. Well, Ron James
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  Speaker 1: actually with the Boston Red Sox and the pittsfordh Penguins.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, that's a good way. That's the Fedway group, right,
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  Speaker 2: the family group exactly so.
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  Speaker 1: And then you got Kevin Durant obviously in the Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Union as Times of the area, Miles Garrett actually with
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  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavaliers, James Harden actually when he was with
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  Speaker 1: the Rockets, invested in the Dash and Houston Dynamo. But
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  Speaker 1: how do you like Giannis. He's involved with the Milwaukee Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the things that really intrigues me about him.
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  Speaker 1: And then of course you have Aaron Rodgers the Bucks.
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  Speaker 1: So just because they leave Milwaukee and they're not playing
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  Speaker 1: there or well eventually Milwaukee, they go ahead and get
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  Speaker 1: involved with some of those franchises.
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  Speaker 6: That's right.
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  Speaker 8: Well Shack Shack also had four percent into the Kings
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  Speaker 8: and got that sold it for two hundred million. And
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  Speaker 8: I do have a question for you, Barvin, I do
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  Speaker 8: have a question for you on this is like word
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  Speaker 8: there during your time that you played, like in the
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  Speaker 8: rookie year and doing everything word there the same consortiums
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  Speaker 8: are any kind of idea about business within the wet
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  Speaker 8: mean as far as during the like during the early
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  Speaker 8: rookie year, where there any kind of those things during
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  Speaker 8: camps and everything about getting yourself in the business.
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  Speaker 6: Don't spend was it during that time? All?
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  Speaker 4: Ye? So, so typically your agent has that all set
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  Speaker 4: up for you. He has an accountant, he'll have he'll
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  Speaker 4: have a business manager or whatever you whatever you want
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  Speaker 4: to do, but he'll have that set up for you.
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  Speaker 4: Mind did uh at least? And you know obviously we
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  Speaker 4: started on we had a plan. We started out on
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  Speaker 4: a plan. You talk big picture, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 4: had I played you know so many years? So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the issue is, you know, the guys wanted to really
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  Speaker 4: buy into that, you know what I'm saying, versus one
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  Speaker 4: to spend that money, get that car, take these trips
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  Speaker 4: and live that life. You know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 4: genuinely in my heart believe after my first year in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL I was gonna be a Pro Bowl player
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  Speaker 4: within two or three years. And I probably could have
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  Speaker 4: had I stayed away from the Hollywood Hills. But you
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  Speaker 4: know that's another story. But no, they definitely have stuff
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  Speaker 4: set up for you.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 4: The players just have to want to buy in. But
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  Speaker 4: now it's you know, it's cool to be an entrepreneur.
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  Speaker 4: It's cool to be an investor. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I mean Jay Z made this thing cool. He wraps
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  Speaker 4: about these guys rap about it, you know. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the message and you know what you're seeing that that
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  Speaker 4: whole thing has definitely evolved as a whole. You're right,
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  Speaker 4: I think you're gonna see less and less guys having
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  Speaker 4: financial issues. But yeah, typically your agent that's part of
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  Speaker 4: the package when they want to sign you. Hey, I
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  Speaker 4: have a plan for you. This is what we're gonna do.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna make this much money, you'll play this long
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  Speaker 4: yead YadA, YadA. So yeah that it was a place
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  Speaker 4: back in ninety nine.
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  Speaker 6: So do you believe So I was gonna say this,
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  Speaker 6: do you believe that?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, he's brought up jay Z, But do you
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  Speaker 8: believe Lebron is a big reason or somebody else is
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  Speaker 8: a big reason why athletes it is cool to be
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  Speaker 8: an entrepreneur And do you believe you believe?
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  Speaker 4: Huh on thousand percent?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Now I was gonna say, I tell you, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: for me personally, I am a jay Z fan and
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  Speaker 4: one of the things I love about his music is
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  Speaker 4: just you know, he started off just talking about you know,
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  Speaker 4: jury and women and YadA YadA, but it evolved, you
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  Speaker 4: know to entrepreneurship and you know, being business minded and
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  Speaker 4: I mean a lot of it. So yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 4: part of the culture. A lot of these guys are
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  Speaker 4: buying into that rap culture, no doubt about it. And
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  Speaker 4: it's just being an entrepreneur and being an investor and
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  Speaker 4: having and having an investing money is the cool thing.
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  Speaker 9: Now versus one more question was I think we can
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  Speaker 9: go on to the thing I was gonna ask this,
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  Speaker 9: do you think that this is going to be just
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  Speaker 9: kind of a niche deal as somebody wears out and
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  Speaker 9: it goes back to that, or do you think this
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  Speaker 9: is for good?
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  Speaker 4: No, man, I think I think this thing moves forward.
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  Speaker 4: I think this whole thing is moving forward with this
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  Speaker 4: younger culture. There's more information. There's too much information out
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  Speaker 4: there now, there's too much data, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 4: just they have way more information in ways that we
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  Speaker 4: didn't access to it as well. So No, I think
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  Speaker 4: with this young younger generation who have elite talent, you know,
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  Speaker 4: whether they are you know, artists or athletes, I think
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  Speaker 4: they're making better decisions as a whole because that's a
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  Speaker 4: part of part of what the culture is now.
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  Speaker 6: Good appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go on to something similar to this. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned the teams and I'll do it again, the
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  Speaker 1: celebrities who are invested in national women Soccerly, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about women sports, which we all know are obviously fledgling
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  Speaker 1: and they're doing real well.
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  Speaker 2: But we're talking about Bill.
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  Speaker 1: I'll mention the names, and I'll mention the team names again, Billy,
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  Speaker 1: Jean King, Kandas Parker, Matthew Stafford, Lindsay Vaughn, Serena Williams,
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  Speaker 1: Andre Eagodala, Brandy Chastank, Kevin Durant, Eli Manning, Sue Brd Peyton, Manning,
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  Speaker 1: Patrick and Brittany Mahomes, James Hurd, and Oscar de la Hoya.
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  Speaker 1: I know went through that a little quickly, but everybody
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  Speaker 1: wants to get that list, just feel free to go
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  Speaker 1: back to it and play it again. But maybe I'll
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  Speaker 1: go a little store. But some of the big names
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  Speaker 1: you got, Billy gen King, Matthew Stafford's in there, Eli Manning, Durant,
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  Speaker 1: The list goes on the Mahomes, Harden, Della Hooya, Mann
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  Speaker 1: as you get the drill. So again, these are individuals
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  Speaker 1: that STRIP invested in National Women's Soccer League'll go over
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  Speaker 1: the team names again. Got angel City obviously, Florida, Angeliet Bay,
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  Speaker 1: Football Club, New Jersey, New York, got them Football Club Denver,
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City in current Houston Dash. So all right, So
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  Speaker 1: that said, Scott, what are your thoughts about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the National Women's Soccer League is a prime is
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  Speaker 1: a great way for a lot of them to go.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's a good way for them to come
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  Speaker 7: up with a tax shelter. Okay, it's not a moneymaker.
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  Speaker 7: I don't see that league making money. And soccer in
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  Speaker 7: this country is doing well because of Lionel Messi and
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  Speaker 7: a few other players, but I don't think women's soccer
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  Speaker 7: professionally is ever going to take off in this country.
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  Speaker 7: I think that any investment that they make is gratuitous
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  Speaker 7: in nature, and they're looking to say they own part
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  Speaker 7: of the team, and then they're not really looking for
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  Speaker 7: an ROI.
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  Speaker 3: Candy, I kind of disagree a little bit with you, Scott,
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  Speaker 3: because I think what's driving more and more people to
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  Speaker 3: play soccer is the concussions, is the health of playing
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  Speaker 3: contact football in that because I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of parents out there that don't that are afraid for
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  Speaker 3: their kids' health, and so a lot of them like
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  Speaker 3: stray them away from like playing football, but playing soccer.
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  Speaker 3: More so, I think it's cool that Serena Williams invested
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  Speaker 3: in Angel City. The other little tidbit is her daughter Olympia,
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  Speaker 3: also is an investor in that same sports team, which
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  Speaker 3: is cool.
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  Speaker 2: Marvin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, you know, I think there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: truth in what Scott's saying, and that kind of goes
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  Speaker 4: to what I was saying to Jacob earlier. These are
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  Speaker 4: opportunities that you know, these players agents put together for them,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And no doubt it may
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  Speaker 4: be attack shelter, but believe me, you have players who
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  Speaker 4: have ambition of being like great owners, of being the
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  Speaker 4: next Al Davis or being the next whoever may be,
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  Speaker 4: just because you know, they grew up in that sports world,
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  Speaker 4: that sports culture, and that's ultimately ownership is where it's at.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it serves two purposes. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: there's any less love or any desire from these players.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: But but no, you know, I think with women's soccer,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I think I do think it's a growing sport. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: think it will continue to grow. You know, I don't
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: know if it's gonna you know, you see how long
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: it'll take UFC to take off. But maybe this is
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: a little bit different. You know, I don't know that
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: it's gonna happen quick, but in time I would expect
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: her to be a women's soccer league that is profitable
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: and in you know, doing well and has attendance and
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: and all that. So it's a matter of time. A
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: lot of this stuff is a long term play. You know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: this isn't necessarily uh you know, a good rich deal,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Scott said, but for those athletes who are looking for
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: real ownership and a real peace and a real say
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: of a real team, it's a great long term play.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I'll say one thing before I turn with George. Women's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: sports are actually a good investment. They really really are.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: And soccer we can't lose sight of the fact that
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: the women's that one, the United States women's team has
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: won the World Cup before, as mentioned when I mentioned
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Brandy cast Into some of these other women involved. So
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't put selve women's soccer short. Go ahead, George, Yeah,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 18:23
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: You know when you think about the sports that come
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: to mind for me, women's basketball, women's hockey, and women's soccer,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: and the soccer one, as you just illustrated, Scott, have
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: been successful United States World champions, United States Olympic champions.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: Come on, I mean, you know, if there's one sport
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: that's going to succeed, I am. I am all in
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: favor of the women's soccer because they have a foundation,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: they have big names like you mentioned, they have good,
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: good credentials, they have awards, they have titles, championships, et cetera.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I think that there is a bright future for that.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: So I don't blame these athletes one bit. And I
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: think the fact that I think it's great that they're
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: looking at getting again into another section, another future investment
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: of their life. The athletes that are investing in women's soccer,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: they're spot on. I love it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: Jacob, Well, here's what we have to the big thing
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: about it is the reason that everybody's getting into these
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: because they see what the reality is.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: As far as the people, It's like, you had a
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: ninety two thousand person and people.
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: At a volleyball game in Nebraska, you had you have
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: women's you have women's soccer teams that have their own stadiums,
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: not sharing stadiums like it used to be, not sharing
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: little corners of the locker rooms or whatever. Their own.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: They've got all that. Now you've got them. You've got
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: the publication boardroom getting the top fifty of you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: of all the athletes in business, and you've got like
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: the FISA, Collier and Cocoa Golf and Serena and all
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: of those in there. You've got all this people. We've
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: got to remember, they do have them set up like
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: Marvin just brought up. But they're also that they're reading
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: a lot more now. And then remember there's the Internet.
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: Now there's not just Okay, I gonna go to the
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: library and digg oh, I gotta go watch this living
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: I gotta go watch this. Isn't that anymore. And it's like,
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: will they make the money right away? Like Scott Salomon
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: will say no, probably not, but it's gonna make it
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: quicker than you think. And I'm not gonna say and Candy,
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: I'm not gonna say that football by itself is gonna
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: be because right now the NFL is investing thirty two
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: million into fight football, so they're gonna give other people
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: a chance to go play the game. So you get
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: so it could be either be tackle or flag. Without flag,
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: they're probably dead. But that's not the thing what you have.
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: It's probably dead in the next twenty years NFL. I'm
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: just saying that just because there's i mean, only three
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: states have more players playing in the last ten years,
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: like Texas, like California and one more Okay, so going on,
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: So that was just a big thing about that. It's
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: like everybody's digging in now and really paying attention.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's go on to basketball. There's a lot
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of basketball topics. I like when Scott's on because obviously
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it's a sport we'll cover anyways.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: But let's go back to Shaquille O'Neill.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, he becomes a Sacramento State men basketball GM where
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: his son Secure plays, to assistant recruiting in the Nil
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: brand deals. Sequille will also focus on the recruitment, marketing,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: holistic player development both on and off the court, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: has waved the salary and we'll serve in a volunteer capacity. So, Scott,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to you. But you're talking about Shaquille
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: O'Neal's involvement with Sacramento Statesmen's Basketball club.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: I think he's a show. I think he's just there
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: for his name and so so he can help recruit
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: and recruit dollars to come into the program. He's not
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: really gonna do anything. I don't see him working hard.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: He's probably gonna go to a couple of meet and greets.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: He might go see a couple of recruits, but he's
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: he's not gonna really do anything that a GM would do.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Candy, you know, I agree Scott, he's in it for
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: a name so that he helps recruit because let's face it,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: he's one of the most recognizable names, most recognizable basketball players.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: So he's gonna recruit guys to come there. He's gonna
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: also help with you know, getting more money for his
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: the team and stuff like that to be able to
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: grab more got our talent.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a win for everybody. You know. Obviously
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: the school gets his name, his presence for all the
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: reasons that Scott and Candy uh just laid out. Uh,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: it's you know, it's a situation where listen, it's it's
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: the nil erar. So having Shauquille O'Neil at the school
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: is great. But if you ain't got no money, I mean,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: these kids have options, you know what I'm saying. So, uh,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: if he can get those alum to commit, if he
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: if he can get those alumps to believe that he
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: wants to be there, and if someone wants to stay there,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: then you know, uh they'll get sponsorships and then and
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: they'll get a little bit of money and you know,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: like I said, it's and he'll get a piece of that.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: So you know, it's good for everybody.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: George, Yeah, I agree. I think that you know, with
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: his name, his presence, which is one of the greatest,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: uh familiar basketball names we have in the United States
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: right now, of course, and you know the things that
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: gets into with Barkley and Ernie and that that pregame
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: and postgame and halftime show. I mean, he's really they've
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: all created such a great name and great camaraderie together.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: But as far is his own personal I don't. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: would never say he's just in it for the money. No,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: he's in it to try to help them out. I mean,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: you know, he these guys that are going into things
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: like this, these ventures they wanted, like you said, Marvin,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: they want to help the nil situation. They want to
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: help with a young athletes trying.
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: To cultivate this new world we're in right now with
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: college sports.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: And Shaquille is one of the one of the big names.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: And I've always liked him as a person.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: I wish him well.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I hope, I hope he does well. I hope he
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: helps them out.
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: Jacob Well, one of the things is they said he
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: foregoes the salary, there wouldn't be enough salary for him,
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: would be worth it, so of course he'll forego it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: He'll get a piece and like you brought up.
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: But the big thing about something like this is you
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: saw it first with Andrew Luck, and you're going to
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: just see more of this type of stuff. I'm not
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: gonna say that he's gonna do because I heard that
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: Andrew Luck does a lot of work, But you're not
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: gonna see this with Shack as he's got to be.
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: He's got probably at last I heard like one hundred
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: and fifty one hundred and sixty franchises of some type,
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: you know stores. He's got that kind of stuff, So
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: he's at all kinds of businesses. But what he can
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: do is it's such.
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: A smaller market. It's such a smaller market, smaller the place,
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: and he's helping his kid, and it's kind of like
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: Dion when he is helping his kid out and everything
• 25:21
  Speaker 11: like that. Will Shack stay when his kid's gone?
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Who knows, But.
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, the guy is a good guy and it's
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: one of those where he's pretty chill and it's gonna help,
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: It really will. And it makes it easier that they
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: don't have to worry about they they don't have to
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: worry about the salary, because that's what you think about
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: when you initially think this idea.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm at Shack many years ago, to the Palace
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Wolburn Hills during the summer when they during when Team
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: USA was getting He's really super nice guy. So the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: fact he's involved there, whether it's for show or not,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: He's there. Goodness a kid.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But we mentioned earlier in the show the guy did
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: was had part ownership and Sacramento Kings, a team that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: once called the Sacramento Queen. But then of course when
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you own him, you don't call him that no more so,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: more power to him. I'm really happy for him, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what time of an impact, but yeah,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you use them for name recognition and a visible eye
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: over there.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: You have everything they gained, nothing to lose with his presidence.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: He can't hurt anything, that's for sure.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: All Right, we'll talk about the team that Scott and
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I and Marvin are all too familiar with, and that's this, Okay,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the Sacramento Kings, now, not the Queen
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: but the King's okay, and that Doug Christie actually became
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: to full times King's coach in round April.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: So here's what you got, Scott.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you first, and we'll just kind of
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: limited to a few of us because we're on it
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a lot more so we can move through the program
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a little quicker. Scott, give me your assessment of what
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you think the job done for Doug Christy as a
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: full time King's coach.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: He really can't be evaluated fairly because he doesn't have
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: a lot of talent or a lot of chemistry to
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: work with. He's got a couple of individual players who
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: are capable of filling up the the box score every night,
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: but they really don't play well as a team, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: they all know that they're being rented. They're going to
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: be out of there by I heard today Scott Perry's
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: taking phone calls from everyone in the league. The only
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: one that's untouchable is Nie Clifford and Kegan Murray. The
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: rest of them are going to be on the trading block.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Marvin, I agree with Scott. I mean, at this point
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: in the season, when you look at what they're dealing
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: with and what he inherited, I don't think this is
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: on him, and I don't think you're seeing a Doug
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Christy team per se. I mean you could talk about
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: effort and not stuff, but you know, give him an opportunity,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Gildas roster, give an opportunity to get the players in
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: that represent his style of play, and then we can
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: have that conversation right now. This I mean, he's just
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: you know, dead man walking.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he really does, all right, And he and Scott
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: mentioned King and Murray. Let me throw another little fact
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: out there as well. We'll continue all their topics. But
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: because of the fact that Marvin and I and Scott
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: are working a little bit closer on at that's I'm
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: just strolling this one out a little bit. Christie obviously
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: has the task of developing for Kig and Murray, who
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: have signed a five year, one hundred and forty million
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: dollars rookie attention deal. Scott, I like to deal for Kirk,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: for Murray as well as the Kings.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: Well, it's a great deal for for Murray. It's sounds
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: such a great deal for the Kings because they're shaddles
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: with the contract and they're going to only get younger
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: through the draft, so they're going to have a guy
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: making one hundred and forty million dollars and then they're
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: gonna have guys making rookie each scale. Kegan Murray is
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: a player, but I definitely wouldn't say he's untouchable. But
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: his contract is really hard to deal.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: You know, you have to have a guy or too
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to build around, and obviously they feel that if I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: give him this money, they can build around Marvin.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this team at this point, I think
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: they have six seven wins, you know, in the season.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: You know, they have to figure out, you know, who
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: their future is, and obviously they've identified a guy. Like
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Scott said, I don't think anybody's untouchable. I think when
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: you're as bad as they are, I think you know
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: everybody's table. But it's obviously they feel that he's somebody
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to build on and move forward. So that identifies some
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: type of plan, and you know, I'm sure Christy has
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: something to say about that as well.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, now we could go back to a topic that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: everybody can talk about. Now we'll talk about the whole
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: city for future final fours or any of these on
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: anybody's bucket unless you want to add something to that.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Chicken. Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: The one thing about it, Marvin is the Kings a
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: couple of different times in our eras I've tried to
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: come back from being really really bad. We know about
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: twenty five years ago and then a couple of years
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: ago of doing that, but they really have.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: Had a kind of a poor history. Now, good, what
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: you're seeing here is it's a six and eighteen team,
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: and so Don Christy's not going to get that kind
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: of blame yet. But there's an other part of this.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: There's a situation where people, these teams are moving fast.
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: How fast did it take for Danielle to win in
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: Oklahoma City?
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: Like five years?
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: It doesn't take long. Indiana was in game seven last
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: year the NBA Finals. Now they've gotten four or six
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: wins themselves. I mean it's telling you this. Everything moves
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: so much faster. You can't just climb a ladder little
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: by little, because you can, you have to take that
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: chance right away.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: So he's probably got a year.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: He's probably got a year, and then if he doesn't improve,
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: they're probably going to let it go just because everything
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: moves so fast.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Now, I'll say, if they made a mistake by letty
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Mike Brown goo, I don't care whe anybody. So Mike
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Brown had the team going in the right direction, you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: let the guy go all of a sudden, they're back
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to losing, that's for sure. So now let's go ahead
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and talk about the future sites of final fours. Starting
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, you have Indianapolis, twenty seven, you
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: have Detroit, George. I don't know if you're going back
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to another one or not, but we'll see. Twenty twenty eight,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you have one Vegas. Twenty twenty nine, you have Indianapolis,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: twenty thirty North Texas meeting Gallus and twenty thirty one
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Okay, well, I don't know, my partner, Scott,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: do you have any ideas that credentially us are any
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: of these or do you have any on the bucket
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: list that you want us to hit.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow. You don't even
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: know where you're going tomorrow. Okay, I don't know. The
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Final four has never really been it for me. It's
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: not a bucket this item for me. I enjoy college basketball.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: I enjoy the Final four, but there are other trips
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: I'd rather take than go to the Final four where
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: I definitely don't need to go to Detroit, Indianapolis, had
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: been to. It's a great city, great steakhouse. Go to
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: Saint Elmos and uh that's where they have the combine
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: every year, the NFL Combine. But it's not really a
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: bucket this time for me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: All Right, Candy, Well, I know I have to get out,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm getting into her head a little bit. See
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: where she's got us pencil and you know where the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: cities are and which ones we could get to. What
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: do you think, Candice? Already you already conquered a women's
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: final four.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: By the way, Now, I've done a.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Women's final four and I've done a frozen four, but
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I've never done regular.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I Meanwhile, I can say that I went to a
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: final four in New Orleans and Michael Jordan was there,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: but I bought a ticket to go there. So I've
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: been there, but I'd like to go there in an
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: official capacity. Go ahead, Candy.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: So as far as I mean, I've I've been to Destroyed,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I've been in Indie. Let's see, I mean I could
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I could see Texas. I can see Texas as one
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: of them. And then what else did you did? You
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: put Vegas on?
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: There was that on there?
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Vegas is one eight yeah, I.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Could see I can see that or Texas.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll have to say whether on them,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: because obviously I'm not going by myself, so you got
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: my opinion, So go ahead, Marvin.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I've been to Atlanta, Mercedes been, so I guess I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: could take that one off the list, So go ahead, Marvin.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just uh, just loving live in
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: the West coast way I do. I would have to
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: say Vegas without question. Uh, Vegas Final Four. I've never
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: been to a Final four before.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: You know, basketball is my second sport, but I do
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: love college basketball. In the Final four is elite competition,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: so you get a chance to see the four best
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: teams in the country go at it. Uh in Sin City.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, I'd love that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Well, you Georgia obviously went to one of Detroit, but
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you could probably go.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, you know, Detroit is excited to host
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: next year a year from this March in twenty twenty seven.
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: I would probably opt for the Vegas one. I'll tell
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: you why, because it's such a city of great excitement
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: and in the city, by the nightlife and everything else
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: going on there, that would be the one for Viscot
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: would be trying to get to the one in Las Vegas.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they'll do a terrific job putting it on.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: All right, what about you, Jacob, Well, Atlanta would be
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: without saying, I'd be twenty minutes, but it feels like
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: this is the longest stretch between final fours. With Atlanta,
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: I feel like it's there all the time. But since
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: it's they're twenty thirty one. I got a funny thing.
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: I have to say Indianapolis because as much as I've
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: been at the Midwest, as I've been through, I've never
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: been Indianapolis.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: So it'd be kind of cool, you know what I mean.
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: I would like to be able to get and of course,
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: like Marvin said, Las Vegas would be cool. You have
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: all of those Detroit I mean that goes without saying
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: with Michigan, but.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Just over you see, the thing is we're going to
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: see such.
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: Changes now in the final four because we're gonna we're
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: probably gona see se twenty sixteen, ninety teens, whatever, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: they keep trying to build the tournament up.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: So we're probably going to be there longer. So we
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: have to figure that out.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Well, again, I've been to New Orleans over the Casar
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Super Hue, but I can see I'd like to I'd
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: like to go to Vegas. All right, let's talk about
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: fortunately a couple of recent passings that we lost in basketball.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: We'll start off with the legendary Lenny Wilkins, who died
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: at the age of eighty eight nineteen thirty seven to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. As a Basketball Hall of Famer, he's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: a nine time All Star across thirteen NBA seasons, went
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: on to be one of the winning his coaches in
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: NBA history. He coached for the SuperSonics, an actual NBA championship,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and also coach the Trail Blazers, the Cavaliers or Hawks,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the Raptors, and the Knicks. So what are your thoughts,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Scott about the passing of Lenny Wilkins.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: Well, I was sorry to hear that when I heard
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: about it. Lenny was a nice guy. I had met
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: him on several editions occasions. He was a tremendous coach,
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: tremendous player. I'm old enough to remember when he played,
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: nonetheless when he coached, but he was also part of
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: the US Olympic team, and he helped me missed. He
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: was an all around good guy.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Indeed, one of the things I will say is he
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: was inducted three times in the Naysmith Memorial Basketball Hall
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: of Fame, first in eighty nine as a player, as
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: a coach in ninety eight, and in twenty ten as
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: part of the nineteen ninety two US United States Olympic
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Dream Team, for which he was an assistant coach. That's
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: pretty cool, that's pretty special, and not many people can
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: say that. So he was a great basketball mind, player
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: and coach. It was a great loss.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Marvin.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was unaware of all his accolade as a player.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I didn't know he was he had that kind of
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: career as a player. I askuw him as a coach.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: So you know, I just telled you a little bit
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: my age. But now, man, I recall seeing him on
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: the sidelines and you know, seem like a positive dude,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: and you know, you hate to hear a sports legend
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: go down.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: George.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Lenny Wilkins is just an amazing man. I've had
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: the privilege of seeing once or twice when he came
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: into town here and played the Pistons. You know, to me,
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: he's just gonna be remembered for so many different things,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: you know, but his community impact. I think, you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: he's got a foundation that helps the future stars, the leaders,
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: and it also has healthcare as one of its pillars.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: And I think that his legacy will continue to live
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: on through this organization that he founded, and he now
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: has others running it obviously after his passing. But long life,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: eighty eight years and the man was really a truly
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: a basketball life for no question about it. He's going
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: to be missed.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Take him.
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: Every time I've watched Lenny Wilkins over the years. When
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: you I've been talking about this over the last few
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: years I've been here in Atlanta. Every time you watch him,
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: listen to him talk, watch him move, watch him how
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: he dresses. It reminds me of a buddy of mine
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: I have here in Atlanta named gentleman Jim mcfarloant. They've
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: got that voice, the movement, the everything that is just
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: like an old jazz club, you know what I mean.
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: And it's just like and then you always believe that
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: there's no way they could die because they how could
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: their heart run out? They have like a thirty eight
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: hard rate forty heart rate. They don't get stressed. It
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: doesn't ever look like they get stressed, you know what
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: I mean. It's like those types they're just cool as
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: the other side of the pillow. Stu Scott would say,
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: it's tough to see this, but it just kind of
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: shows that all our times around with the good Lord
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: saysco you know what I mean.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: So it's like you just enjoy while we have it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well Scott, we're gonna have you for one more
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: basketball segment and then you can take off. And this
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: one's going to be about well, actually Paul George and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: now Eldon Campbell. Then you can go if you don't mind. Okay,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: we also lost Elden Campbell recently. Remember the two thousand
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: and four Detroit Christons championship team also played fourteenth fifteen seasons.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: We're talk about Elden Campbell.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: Well, it's always a shame when somebody passes away so young.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: He went way before his time. I think he was
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: a remarkable player. He was a champion, and he brought
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: the game to the fans. He always incorporated the fans
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: into what he was doing after the games or outside
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: of the arena. He was always good signing autographs and
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: hooping it up with the kids. Who was just said
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: he was a genuine good guy. I don't know him
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: as well as I know Lenny Wilkins, but Elden Campbell
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: has a very, very solid reputation, especially in the Los
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: Angeles community.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, go round a hold on this hot one more
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: topic after this, and then I know you have to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: work on sharole more. No problem, looking forward to reading that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: So Candy here talks about Eldon Campbell.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: You know, he played college for the Clemson Tigers. He
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: earned an honorable All American honors as a senior in
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety. He was selected by the Lakers in the
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: first round of the nineteen ninety NBA Draft with the
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: twenty seventh pick. He actually scored ten eight hundred and
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: five point points. He has six and sixteen rebounds. What
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: a career. He played with numerous obviously the Lakers Hornets,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: the Charlotte Hornets and the New Orleans Hornets, the Seattle SuperSonics,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Detroit Pistons, New Jersey Nuts, and Detroit Pistons. And yes,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: he did win an NBA championship with the Detroit Pistons
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: back in two thousand and four, so kudos to him.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: He spent a long time in the NBA in basketball.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately his untimely death.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Hey Scott, A quick question for you. Have you ever
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: done much work with Florida International University?
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: What I covered a few of their baseball games and
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: that's about the extent of it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: All right, just a little fy They're obviously going to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: be playing in a bowl game against ut University of Texas,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: San Antonio on December twenty sixth.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: That's not the topic one.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go around the hord for this one, and
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: then we have one last hotcum Paul, George, since you're
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the NBA guy, I would really appreciate that as well.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, Marvin, your thoughts on that.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, listen again, the Lakers are are one of my teams.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I recall Eldon when he played for the Lakers. Listen,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: this guy, I think he still has records at Clemson
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: scoring and or rebounding. And this guy played, you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: thirty five years ago, so definitely high impact player. Sad
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: to see him go so young.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: George.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and as you mentioned, a member of the Detroit
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: Pistons and the championship team that he won with guys
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: like Isaiah Thomas and Bill Lambert here in Detroit. He
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: was a really really great role player. I mean the
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Pistons used him effectively. You know, he was acc what
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: a great college career he had. And it's just the same.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: It's just a shame, I said, at fifty seven years
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: old and suffered from a medical emergency while he was
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: out fishing. Just just very heartbreaking news for the basketball world.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: But we'll always remember yep, Jacob.
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: I believe it was a to tack while he was fishing,
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: and that is the you know, and I think he drowned.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: That's an unfortunate part. You know, it's a rough part.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: But you know something, I've watched him many of the years.
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: It's like he came in like about a couple of
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: years after he came in a couple of years after
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: Kareem retired ninety one, and he was that what he was.
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: It was like I saw him go off the bench,
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: I saw him go to the starts places and everything
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: like that.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: He was, you know what he was.
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: He was a fourteenth fit at his prime, fourteen fifteen points,
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: thirteen points a game, seven eight rebounds. And if I
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: could say what the best coach would be that would
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: be honest with the player that wants to go to
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: the NBA, is like, go look for that kind of career,
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: fourteen fifteen years, that kind of career, and then and
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: then anything else would be bonus. Don't say that you
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: stopped there, but anything else would be an absolute bonus,
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: because that's a great career that you'd have. You keep
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: yourself around longer, you keep yourself around team. He had
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: a great career in that that statement. I mean, nice, good,
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: solid career. Not Hall of fame, but you know, and
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: there's that, And I hate that that happened like that
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: because they said he didn't seem like he had any
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: kind of health problems, so it just said that it
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: comes with just like that.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: So Scott, a couple of quick questions for you.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Number One, John stock And thinks that the NIL is
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: ruining the game of basketball.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: He is a graduate of the Jagger. Do you agree
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: or disagree?
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: The NIL I believe is ruining college athletics as we
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: know it, not just college basketball. I think he's ruining
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: college football, okay, basically a professional sport now okay.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And then the second question is, just you know that
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Paul George is the only player left from the twenty
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: ten to non NBA draft. Okay, just so you know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: he's the only one. Can you get that? It's hard
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to believe of the twenty ten NBA draft. So as
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I dive deeper into the topic, Okay, let's revisit a
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: trade and then you can take off. Okay, the Clippers
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: obviously received Paul George, but guests, get this, the Thunders
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: return on investment with Shay Gillis, Alexander Danilo, Gallinery tray Man,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: who was a twenty twenty one NBA number twenty twenty
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: one night, number eighteen pick, Jalb Williams, twenty twenty two
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: number twelve pick, Dylan Joe twenty twenty four number twenty
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: sixth pick, and the Clippers are also getting a twenty
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: twenty six first round pick, and Clippers also bell there's
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: a twenty twenty seven first round flop. Scott, is this
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest fleet jobs you've ever seen? With
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the Paul George situation.
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: I'm surprised they didn't call the police afterwards. That was
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: highway robbery, that was theft. I don't know. I don't
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: know who put that deal together. But it was not
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: a very good deal.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, the twenty ten draft.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: If he's the only one left in it, I can
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: only imagine how deep or deepless it was. All right, Scott, watch,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you'll everybody know how you get ahold of it. Obviously,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: we work together a lot. Put it all out there
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: for us, and then you can work on the more story.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out with us on the NBA stuff,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and we'll get to football at for a station break.
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: Go ahead, Scott, check out the Jags roundtable dot com,
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: Nets round Table dot com and Kings Roundtable dot com
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: for the latest news on those three teams, the Jacksonville Jaguars,
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: the Sacramento Kings and the Brooklyn Nets.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and yours truly obviously is the executive producer and
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: broadcaster for those respective websites. So all right, Scott, I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: want to thank you very much for joining us on
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: this edition of Sports and Chains. I love your NBA
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: background and it's so something that we look forward to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: working with a lot more as you continue to make
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: regular appearances on the Sportune team. Thank you very much
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Scott for being on and I'll talk to you.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Soon enough. Okay, I'm glad to do it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Boys.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Take care yeah, take care of Scott.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Have a good night, have a good one, Scott. All right,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: So let's go back to these other topics real quick. Candy,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: your assessments of the Paul George straight and the fact
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: is the only one left.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Kind of crazy, I mean to think about it, that
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: he was the only one from the twenty ten, which
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: is fifteen years in the league. That's quite a long
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: time for a career, you know, even for basketball.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: Jacob, Yeah, that really is. It's like I mean, you
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: said fifteen years, right, Candy.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because twenty ten now is fifteen yeah.
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and it's like going on six.
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: But you want to know, the thing is, he's had
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: that career despite that broken leg. So it's like a
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: lot of them, it would have affected their career stuff.
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: But we also have a lot better physical training and
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: everything right now too, So good for him, you know
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: what I mean.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Marvin, Yeah, no doubt sports signs. You know, the advancements
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: there have helped this guy out. But I mean fifteen years,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: that's a lot of years, you know what I'm saying.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: And these guys are making a lot of money early.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: You know, we had that conversation. Some of these guys
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: are making good decisions, some aren't. But you know, I
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: don't think everybody has the passion to play that long.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: I don't or even the discipline to play that long.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: So for the disproportion, kudos to him. I felt like
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: he's always hurt though.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, seem like that, George.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's an Olympic champion too. You guys might remember
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: twenty sixteen in real the United States basketball team. He
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: was a member of that nine time NBA All Star.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, this guy who's had a fantastic career,
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: but there's always more to do. I you know, the trade, Yeah,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: there was a lot of fleecing that went on with
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: that trade. I have to agree with that.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Scott Well, the only I'll say about the trade.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: This reminds me of Jimmy Johnson, Herschel Walker and what
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: they did.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: This.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: This isn't a police job. Jerry Jones, Jimmy Johnson and
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: URGEA Walker tell me what one is. That's just unbelievable.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not downplaying the significance of his career. It's been
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: really good, like it's been outlined, and in fact, he've
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: played fifteen years or twenty ten, not man, but let's
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: not kill her.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: So Chizanofo, there's a.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Big reason why the Oklahoma City Thunder or they look
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: like they're a dynasty waiting to happen.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: That for sure.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Now back to the other question that I presented, Scott,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: We'll go to a station break and continue the flow.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: And that's this. Okay.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: John stocks And thinks the NIL is ruining the game
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: of basketball. He's a graduate of Jack at Candy. Do
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: you agree or disagree?
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I think and I don't think NIL is ruining it.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I think transfer portals are ruining it. I think NIL
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: is just is a form of allowing the athletes to
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: get paid. Finally, you know, we've all talked how NC
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: two A has been making lots of money for you
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: years and years and years, and now it's the the
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: benefits can be sought after by the athletes, which I
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: think is a good thing.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: All right, Marvin, you.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Know something, I have a lot of things to say
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: about John Stockton, in particular being the one to say
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: that giving these boys the money is the problem. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: think that the biggersion what problem? What's the problem, That's
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: what I understand. What is the problem. I think Candy's right.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: The bigger issue that real fans have. Well, one of
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: the issues is that you can you can commit to
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: a school and you can lead that school in a year,
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: whereas you know, guys like me, diehards like me, whoever
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: the school is, you don't do that. We don't have
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: that mentality. You chose to go to the school, You
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: go to that school, and that's it. That's how you
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: do that. So, you know, I think not having guardrails
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: on that really pissed a lot of people off. And
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: I can understand that completely. In this economy, I think
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: it's tough to hear that these got these young boys
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: out here making this money, making so much money. People
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: fail to realize that it's the elite players of in
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: high school that go and in college that even make
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: it possible for these schools to have these big contracts
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: and have this kind of interest. So, you know, I
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: think Brent Kavanar was actually dead right when he latched
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: at the NC two way and said, you guys essentially
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: have created a business within a school, but it's still
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: a business, and these are your laborers. You have to
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: pay them. I don't know why you know this entrepreneur
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: American will live. And people can't understand that, you know
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: what I mean? The NC two way in college universities
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: have been getting getting over on these kids for years,
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: okay for years, making tons of money, building all kinds
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: of things on campus, giving people all kind of crazy salaries,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: you know, more than just football. Nothing makes more money
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: on campus than a college football team. It is, and
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: that's the business that these schools are in period, you
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So giving these kids twenty percent
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: plus an NL package, I don't know what's that hurting.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: It hurts people's feelings who are jealous, who don't like
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: to see these young boys getting money. And that's the
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: bottom line. This comes down to just jealousy in my opinion.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: And uh, you know it's just it's in any other
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: scenario where you have young people who are talented, they
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: get paid. Kids, kids at Disney, uh, musicians, all kinds
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: of artists. Why is there no argument, you know, to
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: to not pay these kids. So you know, it's it's insane.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Get used to it again. If you're a traditionalist, you
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: have this idea in your head that if you're a pearance,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: you think that you know you should do it just
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: for the love of the sport. Well, they love the sport,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: that's not gonna They do love the sport. But they
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: can love the sport and get a little peace, get
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: a little taste the bigger money that they generate. So
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: what is what is it ruining?
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Again, I'll reiterate, you and Kennedy are right to transfer
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: more of a problement nil.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: It really really is. Anybody can just get out anytime
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: they want.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, and I'm not talking
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: about it because we have too many things to get to.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Troy Ainkman has had enough after one time with the
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: uhl A thing. But that's something that will rattle mel
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: far about.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, not tonight, Okay.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: George, Yeah, I agree. The portal itself is the one
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: that really is agonizing. I think that the athletes have
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: been winning a long time for this to happen, and
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: then the courts helped them obviously with that decision. So
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: the NIL is here to stay. Is it all one
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: hundred percent correct? No, But I'm a little disappointed in
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Stockton's comments. To be honest with you, he really has
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: to take a total look at the total picture and
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: like Marvin said, some of these young men and women
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: they've been you know, under the guidance if you will,
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: of great athleticis up and drawing in hundreds and thousands
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: of fans, you know, to see them play, and then
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: they get nothing in return. So the day was coming.
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: It has come. But I think more and more of
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: the transfer portal is disturbing to me, and the movement
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: around that some of the some of them are doing,
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: especially in basketball and football, very good.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: And to add to George's point, you know, because there
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: are people who say, well, they get they get a scholarship,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: they get an education. Let me tell you something, the
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: kids themselves their talent. When you look at the battles
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: of this value that scholarship that's one hundred thousand dollars
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: versus the eight to ten million dollars that school's gonna
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: make them that kid in four to five years. You
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, who's really getting a better deal here?
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: So listen, they have to change the benefit package because
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: the value of the kid, you realize, is much greater
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: than we want to admit. So yeah, there you go.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: All right, you know what we're going on to our
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: first doves for top guys after two cents. Okay, because
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I once I see that figure out, I got a lot.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I gotta go to the James b.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Wait.
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: Let me tell you. Let me tell you where the
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: job I mean, you weren't around for the Pundit's pundit
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: era with my I had four years of it, and
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: Scott was. We talked about this religiously with Nil and everything.
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: We brought this saying crazy. Let me tell you where
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: the guys like John Stockton and Troy Aikman and all
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: of them.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: Are the most jealous.
• 55:06
  Speaker 8: And it's not really the money, because money wasn't going
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: to be around then and they are jealous of the
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: money now. But let me tell you where they're jealous
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: is the fact that there was no democracy. With the democracy,
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: if you will, with the coaches and players, there was
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: no working with them. There was screaming how they're in,
• 55:25
  Speaker 8: all kinds of ridiculous. I'm gonna say, verbal assault, all
• 55:31
  Speaker 8: kinds of everything, especially from a Bob Knight, espicially from everything.
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: And you took four years of it. A lot of
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: kids mind you could take it, and they just kind
• 55:39
  Speaker 8: of rolled out their back and became lawyers and everything.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: There's some that have a PTSD to this day. So
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: let me let me say this, and Troy Aikman left
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: Oklahoma for UCLA, so you can't be able to say
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: that kind of thing.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: But when the.
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Jealousy comes from these.
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: Players, when they had all of the these coaches and
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: everything like that, and there was it was, like I said,
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: it was no democracy. It was that was the word.
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: You couldn't get any of your ideas in anything. The
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: thing of it now is these players could get a
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: word in, they could come up with a play, they
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: could do all that stuff, and if you don't listen
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: to them, they can leave. And there's where the and
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: and the thing is. Then, in truth, the n C
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: Double A put I said this un pundits so many
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: times over the years. The n C Double A put
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: it on themselves. When you have a rick but Jarris
• 56:31
  Speaker 8: that you sangs for giving a kid a dinner for
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: when they lost their mom or dad. Forget which when
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: you know any of them, you can't even buy a
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: cup of noodles because it's a I guess the rules
• 56:46
  Speaker 8: all that stuff. You wonder why and I l Sol could.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: Couldn't even you couldn't even work you couldn't even work could.
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: You get this certain amount? And it's like there's the
• 56:58
  Speaker 8: c double a put I've said this for four years
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: on this subject, many times. N Cuba put this on themselves.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: They were slow, they were they were they were dragging
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: their feet. You know they listen, this conversation was being
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: had in the eighties, man, and then the Abandons, yeah,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: the ninety yeah, then you know the bands in the nineties.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: But the reality is we knew this date was coming
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: and it happened all at once. That's that's what happened.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Everything happened once with N I M and Transfer Portal.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: And you know these football peeristists they lost it, man,
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: and they're losing it and they hate seeing these boys
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: get that money.
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: They and you're right with money, but what they don't
• 57:38
  Speaker 8: have is power that I mean they they got. They're
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: so jealous of the idea that these players could be
• 57:44
  Speaker 8: able to kind of whether it's in football or basketball.
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: They have the idea that they can make their own
• 57:49
  Speaker 8: decisions on the court, they can be able to catch
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: any of that kind of deal. And I mean Tom
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: is though as much as he screams at Hollers, he
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: doesn't go too far. Yeah, they know the whole thing.
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: So there's the issue is they're jealoice, not necessarily of
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: the money, but of they don't have the power like
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: that they're gonna have.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: They're gonna have a CBA in place. I think that's
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: I think that's coming. You know, they're gonna they're gonna unionize.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: I mean this, this is going to evolve even further.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: But yeah, change is coming, all.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Right, won't stay tuned.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: We have one non sports topic going into the break,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: and this is one I know Marvin really like, but no,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it is in Charlie Kirk.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: You got me that one. It's got you got me
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: with that one. Man, Yeah, I was. I was expecting that.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: To this day, I'm still kind.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Of yeah the first time. Yeah, you still survive me.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: But this one's not bad either though, Marvin, I'm telling you.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Nonsports topic American said two. Tourism in Cuba can be
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: fined for up to two hundred and fifty grand two
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand, up to new majors. Get this
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: signed by President Donald Trump on July to me vibe
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: all right, not Charlie Kirk.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: But Donald Trump. Fifty grand. What do you think Mervin.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Oh no, if an American goes to Cuban, they get
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: finding a quarter meal is like what you're saying.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be up to fifty grand.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: This is what Trump wants. To Listen, this is this
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: is what you know of those who voted, This is
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: what they wanted. I don't know what to say. I know, Miami,
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: this guy democratic mayor for the first time in thirty years.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: That says something. I lived down there for fifteen years
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: and I says a lot. So listen Trump. You know,
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: if there's anything is crazy, this may sound. If there's
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: anything about Trump that had I respect, is he don't
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: care he did. He'll do what he wants to do.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: And regardless of the facts, the numbers, the feelings, the people,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: you don't care. He would do him. That could be
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: a great trait if you have the right mindset and
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: right energy. But man, I know what to say about that.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Trent guy, I don't listen. This is a family show.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: So you know, I just I.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Haven't given you something this. It's hard in a while.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: So I thought two hundred and fifty grand. Yeah, I'll
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: tell you what. I think I could find other destinations
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: besides Cuba, and if I want to go to Cuba,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: that bade Marvin. You know what I really do. I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: put a little Havanah near the Marlins. And that's the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: closest same thing.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: Damn right. Listen, listen, you do travel through Miami and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: this this is you know, America has so many different
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: cultures and subcultures, but you would travel through Miami and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: and not think you're in America. You know what I'm
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: saying that that's how Cuban it is. And you're to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: the culture and just the dnsity and all that, and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: it's great. You know, I think it's great to have
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: you have these kind of places in America. But no, man,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: it's out of this world insane. What does this guy?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Well, we know to family, so all we're talking all
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: we're not using any excellent So we're just saying that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: the President says, you go Berry, you get us to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: write a check for two hundred and fifty grand are
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: rough too? That's all that's that's.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: On his mind. That that's what's on his mind. You
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You know how you know how
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: those how Cuban Americans feel about that in Miami. You
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying this is insane. So well, you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: know how to feel because they would have for a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: democratic mayor, so you know, it's it's typical Donald Trump,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: just doing his own things, on his own vibe, lack
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: of awareness and just doing you know, doing him. That's okay.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Got to mention that we talked about Charlie Kirk, you're
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: getting off busy with Donald Trump and Q.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I agree.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Jay Kennedy had it way worse than he did. We
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: had to deal with the Cuban missile prices. All we're
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: saying is he's just saying, you want to pay two
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty grand, no problem, go down there. If
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: that's all pretty much, keep a simple, stupid all right, George.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I know that how political you are, but Rovin, you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: handle that as well as you could handle that topic,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: and I had to throw something a little bit more challenging.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: It does get a little bit easier for the next
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: two or three. I got, okay because I haven't used
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of abundance on but I want to get
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: this in before the right go ahead.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: George.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: Well, like a lot of things, they're are going to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: end up in the courts. I mean, you know, he
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: he says a lot of things and things that signed,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: a lot of proclamations and uh executive orders and all that,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: but so many of them are being challenged in the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: court system. That's one that's I think a little bit
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: too wild and too crazy for me. Yeah, to be
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: able to have a fine levy on you and to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: or pay two hundred and fifty thousand ahead of time
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: if you want to go visit, come on. I I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: don't like it. I don't think it's going to stick.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: And that's all I'm going to say about it.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: That's okay, no problem, Shorge, And nobody said it along
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: with I always.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: I wanted you to go there, George, I want.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine there may any more baseball games being
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: played there anymore, either, Candy.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: So one part of it that you guys haven't mentioned
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: is Cuba is actually on our the Department of Treasury's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Office of Foreign Asset Control. They're considered an O FAT country,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: which means that if you did travel to them, none
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: of your debit cards would work, none of your credit
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: cards were working. You actually have to have cash because
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: none of those items will work in Cuba. And that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: is strictly that's been for years. That's not just a
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump thing. That's for years now. The Treasury, the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Department of Treasury has issued general licenses for twelve categories
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: of travel. So individuals who meet the regulatory conditions of
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: general license that they seek to travel under do not
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: have to apply, because there's an actual additional license you
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: need to apply from o FAC to travel to Cuba.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: The twelve categories are official family visits, so if you
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: have family there, official business of the US government, if
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: you're a part of the foreign government, certain inner governmental organizations,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: journalistic activity, professional research and professional meetings, educational activities, religious activities,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: public performances, clinics, workshops, athletic and other competitions and exhibitions.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Support of the Cuban I'm saying is that there's more
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: to it than just Trump saying this. I mean, it
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: is not a country that we are friendly with you.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, good stuff, all those facts for me to say,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: you think, all right, Jacob ahead.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: All right, all right, here's one thing. There's one thing. Marvin.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: You brought this part up, Okay, Barbara and George, you
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: brought this part up. The idee about to him with Cuba,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: thing about it is the fact that this is revenge
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: on Obama because Obama did open Cuba up, and he
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 8: said he's got to have his usual revenge. But if
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: he left it with Rosie, O'donnald all stuff. But here's
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 8: what I would try to tell everyone that's in his
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 8: cabinet and all that kind of because he obviously met
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: with Mom Donnie, so he'll meet with people. If I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: was to have this whole thing, I would try to
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: convince him. First thing, you have to tell him he
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 8: has great hair. Tell him he has great hair. He
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 8: will be all for that. And then you got to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 8: tell him how great his suit is. You know he's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: got one suit. You got to tell him all this
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: stuff and then get into his mind. And then once
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: he get is charmed, tell him things like, don't kill
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 8: the money in Los Angeles for the train, build it
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 8: yourself if you're a builder. Don't kill Cuba. Say I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 8: opened her, Cuba's the greatest of the thing in the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: whole white world. Cuba, I did Cuba. Cuba's the greatest.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 8: Do those things and he would and he probably listened
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: because it does with his ego and that means charming am.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 8: But people don't figure of this because they're in the
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: middle of all this rage right now. So there's here's
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: the thing to convince him that he's making all of
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 8: these decisions. He probably would listen.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: With that said, you know what, Candy will go to
• 1:05:40
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• 1:05:46
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  Speaker 4: We don't go back and forth. He's pummeling.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are boxing.
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  Speaker 4: I just beat on him like controls and should Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Why do you think I created a group chat with
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the four of us so you guys can pick it
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: up and do it some more.
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  Speaker 2: That his dad.
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  Speaker 4: He went to the school.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, wanted l A.
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  Speaker 4: He wanted one of those people.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Scott, don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't go at him in the group chat because
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: you know, I want to give him a little light.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I never want to want to keep him alive.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: That clip chat is nothing more than an opper to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: let you guys know what's on tap. I like to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: see it on the air way. You to go after
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: each other.
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  Speaker 4: Scott, I'm afraid he may quit, so I don't want
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: to go at him too hard. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: I mean I could, I could turn it up. This
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: is a family show, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting nobody knows better than you, my brother, all
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I could tell you that chip was only created to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: let everybody know what's going on and once that live
• 1:09:05
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  Speaker 1: at it with him.
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  Speaker 2: And I love watching it, George.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I'll say you, if you ever get on that show,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: you won't lose your voice on it. It's a Marvin
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: and and Mel show. Katy and I just I get
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: to sit back and moderate. She produces a lot to
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: go at it. I just make sure the topics are on. Boy,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: that's a great entertainment if I ever saw on. We
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: started out with the UCLA USC and all of a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: sudden it got interesting last week and I was gonna
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: get more interesting as I stacked a deck of more controversy.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: But that's that. Let's go to our future topic of
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: the night.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Obviously, the are the Indian Hoosiers the team to beat
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: in the college football playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I go, they suffered a major injury.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I don't have that rate in front of me, but
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: I know that the guy got hurt going to get
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: team celebration. He's one of their leading tacklers. But let's
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: talk about how old of this really got going I
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: wonder what he is being is thinking right now after
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: throwing shade at Indiana for not beating good teams, get
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: this back in septem the Hoosiers at that time were
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: ranked nineteen. In September, they thrashed Illinois, which at that
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: time was three to one, and they collaborative sixty three
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: to ten. No, Bobby Knight isn't walking into the building.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: The Hoosiers are currently thirteen wins and no losses, and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: that isn't even interesting. Consider that going into the Ohio
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: State game, they were zero for thirty two dating back
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: to nineteen eighty eight.
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  Speaker 2: So here, I'm.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Gonna put a couple of facts together. Let's relate to
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: the Michigan Wolverines. When the Michigan Wolverines played Ohio State,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: that was twenty one hundred and eighty seven days since
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: osub Michigan.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Well, OSU snapped that straight. But guess what.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: They lost to Indiana in the Big Ten Championship game
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: thirteen to ten. Their last win, of course, against obviously
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, was nineteen eighty eight. Well, Jacob, you're obviously
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: a big Midwestern guy. What are your thoughts about the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: fact that ESPN got Indiana a bit motivated here.
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  Speaker 8: ESPN is where the East coast. I mean you get
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: to the other side to go to the West coast.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 8: The coasts are arrogant. As much as I'm say, I'm
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: gonna say it, Marvin, a lot of them are arrogant.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: They think it's flyover state. You're talking to Quincy, Illinois.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: I'm never gonna believe that. I drive through all these areas.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: I know better.
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  Speaker 6: But the thing about Indiana is, I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 6: they're gonna win.
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  Speaker 8: I said they have a good chance. And the reason
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: being is Signetti has a team that Signetti has a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 8: team that is just ridiculously disciplined for weeks and weeks
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: and weeks of the time, ridiculously I don't make any
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 8: mistakes that kill them. And you brought up in being
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: on NOI sixty three to ten, just wiping them out.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: Here's another thing they I mean, they played Penn State.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: Penn State was I mean all kinds of chaos. Penn
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 8: State played the game in their life, and they came
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  Speaker 8: back and won. The thing that's what happens when you
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: don't make mistakes on your own is you're gonna have
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: those games where there's where there's a team that plays
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  Speaker 8: their heart out and you have to do something like this.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 8: It's any teams that have any kind of penalty problems
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: and they had disciplined problems, they don't win that game.
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  Speaker 6: So you have that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I do believe they have one heck of a chance,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: even with Georgia being there, and Georgia and Kirby has
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: Kirby has his own well coached team in itself. But
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: I mean there, I don't I believe there's twelve teams
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: right now. I believe there's eight guarantees that they win.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: The other ones we have to see. But their discipline
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  Speaker 8: is tremendous. So I do believe in Indiana.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Canny Well, I gotta tell you, Candy don't look born
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: in Indiana. She knows that a needle around that. Although
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: she's a Wisconsin girl, she was born in Indiana. And
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: that night she was rooting for the Hoosiers to be
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, and she was a Hoosier girl, really rooting
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: for a Hoosier.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so we know Indiana as a basketball we
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: thought of that. We think of when you mentioned Indiana Hoosiers,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: you think of Bobby Knight. You think of basketball, you don't,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: you don't think of football. But Kurt Signetti is changing
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: that narrative, and he's changing it quickly. Yes, maybe they
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: didn't have the biggest wins this year, maybe they don't
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: have the most notable wins, you know, but they beat
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Oregon at Oregon thirty to twenty. So they beat him
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: by more than a touchdown at Oregon's home. And yes,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: they beat some guy. Some buy it quite a bit.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: But what Kurt Signetti has been able to do and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: turn that program around and make it relevant and make
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: all of us talk about him. I mean, look what
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: he's done. He's taken a program that nobody talked about
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: and now we're all talking about it. Kudos to him,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: you know, since I really don't have a horse in
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: this race, go Indiana beat everybody, very good, Marvin.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: First time I saw that that I really saw them
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: play this year was against Ohio State, and I was
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: thoroughly impressed the way they played up front. Their size,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: these guys were tough. I mean they were pushing there
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: and they were playing with and pushing around on how State,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: and it really blew my mind. And we're talking about
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: the greatest coaching turnaround probably in history in a one
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: to two year period. You haven't seen this, you know,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: and in the NIL era, So you know, what does
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: what does this mean to mean Kurt Signetti right now?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: Is I mean he's out pacing Pete Carroll and Nick
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: saman Okay, no championship yet, but what was Pete Carroll
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: in year one? Six? What was Nick Saban in year one?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: You know a little maybe a game better than that.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: So this guy is doing something. He's the real deal.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: He is this He is the secret sauce when you
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: look at what he did j and U and what
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: he's doing out in Indiana and he me the way
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: he beat Ohio State, their quarterback Mendoza is the real deal.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: This kid is the real deal. I've heard about him
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: all year. I've seen, you know, I watched plays and
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: clips and all that, but that doesn't tell me the
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: whole story. I don't pull out into that I watched
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: his game. This kid is tough. This kid is accurate.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: He's athletic in ways that we're not talking about. Now.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: I feel much better when I keep hearing that my
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Jets may draft this kid. He he looked real good
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: the Indiana. Who's are the real deal? Even though I
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: do think them Oregon Ducks is the team people sleeping on.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, George, I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Number one, Okay, what are your thoughts when he obviously
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: eighty seven days were none after Ohio State ended up
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: beating Michigan and Sharon Moore and we're not going to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: get into shimolle more thing there. Give me your thoughts
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: about the fact that Ohio State finally beat Michigan. But
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: then the second part of that question is did Ohio
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: State take Indiana lightly the following week? First question, and
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: then you can answer us because we've all talked about
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. Yeah, yeah, Michigan, but you haven't had an opportunities.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: You don't get how any football shows.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I appreciate that. I think that it did
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: not come as a surprise to me. I knew this
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: was not a game that that the U of M.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: Wolverines were probably going to win, and it was just
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: because the momentum had swung so much to the buck
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: Eyes this season, and it's the perfect perfect record that
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: they had going into that game, and I know it
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: was a home game, from Michigan, but that didn't seem
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: to matter. You know, and say what you want about
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: Matt Patricia, but that was another angle. He did a
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: hell of a job this year as a coordinator for
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: the buck Eyes. I really think that that's that was,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: that was, that was the game, and see what you
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: got then, Scott, you got that game right afterwards a
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: week later, and and your Big Ten championship game. And
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: I do tend to think that they may have taken
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: them a little bit lightly because that did not look
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: like the same Buckeyes squad that was, you know, smashing
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: the competition all year long. Michigan game was closer, but
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: it really wasn't close, as we know the score indicated.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what I I you gotta want.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: You know, they talk about trap games, man, Well you're
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: at a sky high level. Come on, Michigan, lsu, let's
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: face it. And then you've got to play Indiana, which
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: nobody expected to be there. I think there could have
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: been a little bit of a lutdown and I think
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: that cost them. They also were throutein to have you know,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: there was such a low scoring game, which is incredibly ridiculous.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: But I do think that Indiana has it. I really do.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: I think they got enough firepower and enough guts to
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: do to win this thing. It'll be interesting to see.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: But yeah, thanks for asking. I really think that they
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: took it a little lightly.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: Ohio State.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the school.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: We don't really talk about much, Candy and I out
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: know it all too well because we're living in the area.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: But Florida International University, the Panthers who play in southwest Miami.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: And by the way, one of their biggest alumni guy
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: happens to be a guy by the name of t
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Y Hilton, and t Y Hilton's a special player, and
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Mario christ Bole actually going ahead and coach there as well.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: But they're actually bull eligible, and I'm going to give
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: you their matchup. But this is the first time that
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: they've been a bull eligible under first year head coach
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Willie Simmons since twenty nineteen. So let me go over
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the matchup for fy you pardon me. They're seven and five.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: They take out r Cita of Texas, San Antonio and
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Dallas Stecember twenty sixth, and f IU is one four straight. Marvin, Obviously,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: we all talked about the Miami hurricane. But what you
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: thought about FIU, They're a pretty good field story, good
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: feel good story.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: So I lived down in South Florida for fifteen years
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: and became very familiar with FIU. Listen in the in
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: the pre nil era. You know what I would say
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: is there is so much talent in South Florida that
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: even if FIU is getting man you leftovers, these these
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: these these are you know, real athletes, elite players. I
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: think finding a coach I could put something together, put
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: that talent together is everything. You know, you don't know
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: what kind of player they are and f h in
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: the nil Era, but I'm sure they're competitive within their
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: own conference. So you know, I'm I'm a fan, I'm
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: a supporter absolutely. I am from from Afar, and you know,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: I'm proud. I'm happy to see them eligible for a
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: bowl game. That's a proud football community and they have
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: they have a big base down there.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: George sixty nine, I'm sorry, twenty seven. A twenty seven
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: percent chance is the ESPN indicator for FIU to win
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: the game. Well, don't don't even get me started. I mean, yeah,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: you can throw the records out. This is a team that,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: like you said, Scott has really been on the map
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: this year. You know, seven and five record and they're
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: playing Utsa in that Responderbowl. I give them credit because
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: that's a school that Yeah, I've heard of them for
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: men's basketball, but I really didn't hear too much about
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: them for football over the years. But they've really done
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: a great job and you know, they turned that thing around.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that. That's one of the games
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: that is going to be on, uh yeah, the day
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: after Christmas, December twenty sixth, and that should be a
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: good bowl game. But yeah, hats off, they've done a
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: great job. Coach has done a great job down there.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Well, we've seen a lot of teams get out of
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: ball game, but if I am glad they got in one.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: And yeah, that's the right Russian.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: So obviously fired up to bull playing Jacob. One of
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: your people, Jacob's eyes said sleeping.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I hope.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: I'm glad for him because we've had too many that
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: have bailed out.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 8: I mean, I believe for this they did too, you know,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: when they got an opportunity to be in a bowl game.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: Any but you know what, Joe, we're going to actually
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: talk about Michigan in a few more minutes, Like a
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: lot of people were asking us, we'll come in a
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: little bit while we have a chance about d Sharon
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: war But Candy, give you your talks about FIU.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to them? Why not? I mean, you know, we
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: don't talk about them a lot. They're one of the
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Florida schools that's least talked about. Let's face it. You
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: bring up the Canes, you bring up the Gators, you
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: bring up the Seminoles, and then maybe us F FAU
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: and a little fi U. But let's remember there are
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: some prominent t Y Hilton graduated from FIU. Jonathan Cyprin,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: he was a safety. He was drafted from FIU. John
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: new Smith tight end drafted from FIU. So they've had
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: some good talent as well.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: So John who split the tight end.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: John tight End drafted in twenty seventeen.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, hey listen guy IU and
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: the players every now and then. But when they get.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: There in South Florida, man, it's it's a gold mine,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: it really is, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: So they're called hidden gems, okay, Jacob.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: Nothing hidden about this anymore. And you don't just like
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 8: you brought this up earlier though, that you just don't
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 8: go in there and they get the they get the junk.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 8: Like you heard in the movie Twins, that you got
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: the junk and everything, and that's what an FIU used
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 8: to get and everything. It's not that way anymore. Everybody's
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 8: a gem and you get and you get all these players.
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  Speaker 8: Let me watch the NCAA turn to watch these games,
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  Speaker 8: watch the FIU.
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  Speaker 6: And and I will tell you this right now.
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  Speaker 8: These are heavy duty players and heavy duty teams, you know,
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  Speaker 8: and all that kind of stuff, and you have to
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  Speaker 8: work with. Nothing is a gimme Absolutely nothing is a gimmey,
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  Speaker 8: And you're gonna see this, and I just have a
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  Speaker 8: bo I'm just glad for them that they get themselves
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  Speaker 8: a chance, because the main thing right now is it's
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  Speaker 8: going to get tougher knowing what they're going to be
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: doing with the tournaments and everything, so they gonna have
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  Speaker 8: to get themselves better.
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  Speaker 6: They answer them to build on.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I need to go to the chat room. We
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  Speaker 1: got some really good questions. I'm going to answer a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them if I can, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: keep the show going. But these are some really good ones.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way we can. Fernando Holiday Vargus with Candy,
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  Speaker 1: You're to your top pics this weekend. Think about it.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: You can tell them at the end of the show.
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  Speaker 1: Will miss is the best Couse football team?
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  Speaker 2: Right now? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen the version one out and with Link Kiffin,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be paying attention to Hey, Big ten over a second?
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  Speaker 2: How are you? What's up? Fire? Todd Bowles play things?
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  Speaker 2: I like that name.
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  Speaker 1: Jacob is all right. We got thoughts in the Michigan
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  Speaker 1: situation a lot. You know what, they can do way
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  Speaker 1: better than Sharon Moore. I believe there'll be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of good candidates that they'll definitely want to go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and find that job Charon Moore called self destruction one
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  Speaker 1: oh one. That's exactly what he did. He had the
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  Speaker 1: best job on the planet, and this guy found a
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  Speaker 1: way to go ahead and blow it.
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  Speaker 2: But I yeah, why didn't get arrested? O don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I guess we'll pay attention and I'll tell you what
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Big ten over a second? Just so you know, this
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  Speaker 1: will be a primary topic on Tuesday night on Inside
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: the pickt In. I'm just answering some basic surface questions.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Give me a little bit of time over the weekend
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: and I'll have more specifics for you. You as Devin Singleton,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Devin singletary came out a faus a hack of a
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: player Auburn.
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  Speaker 2: My thoughts on Alix, I'll tell you one thing. They
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: got a good one.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Auburn football ship team very good because that Alix goes
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: I know Alis well and I've never seen a guy
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: to me if there's Auburn got that higher, right, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love that one. And Scott looks like you would
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: work in a golf pro shop.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: I kind of like what I'm doing, but I appreciate
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: that big ten. Over second, you'll have a lot all
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: your questions. I'm trying to give you a basic idea
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: what they are now, but please tune in to Inside
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: the pict In on Saturday as well as Tuesday, and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: we're going to go to more depth on the Michigan
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: firing of excuse me, Sharon Moore and anybody want to
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  Speaker 1: add real quickly. I want to talk about Philip Rivers
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: and then I have a bunch of other topics. I
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: need to really get to go. Anybody else real quick.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: There'll be rapid fire with your comments.
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  Speaker 2: At the moment.
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  Speaker 6: I'll bring it up on Bunda tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, no problem, Well, well I'm sure Jacob quick, all right,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: all right, let's continue to This is a rapid fire time.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: But Philip Rivers was unretiring after Daniel jones injury.
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  Speaker 2: Jacob, do you like it or not? Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: If he if he depends on Taylor, If he depends
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: on Taylor, he can he uses the same he was
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 8: saying this. He uses the same offense with his high
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 8: school team, and as Satan Shane Steiken does so as
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  Speaker 8: long as he doesn't try to play hero ball, as
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  Speaker 8: long as he doesn't try to get himself hurt or
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 8: try to do too much, and he revies on Taylor
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 8: and that run game, do we fine, Candy, As.
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  Speaker 3: Long as he's in shape to you know, to go
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: in there, kudos to him. I have heard recently that
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  Speaker 3: he won to come back because he's afraid Stafford is
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: going to take his some of his total yardage because
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: he's really close. So well, it remains to be seen
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: and remains to be seen if he gets in and
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: how successful he is. But I hope he's in good
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: condition to be in there, Marvin.
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  Speaker 4: Sports sports science evolves and moves fast, you know what
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. And I'm assuming he spent the last five
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: years recovering, and you know his body is in great
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: shape literally, you know what I'm saying. Typically in these
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: situations you have to do a conditioning test. I don't
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they made him do that conditioning test.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: Something tells me he didn't have to do that. But
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  Speaker 4: this is a it's a young man's game. It is
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: a young man's game. Those those young boys hit hard,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: they move fast out there. You know, Jacob is right.
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  Speaker 4: This all depends on his ability to just hand the
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: ball to Jonathan Taylor. Because if that's the game and
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: that they maintained that and they play some play action
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: off of that, then you know, I think there's a chance.
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  Speaker 4: But again, five years on time off, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: rooting for the guy. I'm rooting for Phil, So we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Likewise, George, you have a final word on.
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  Speaker 5: It, Well, I don't think it's gonna work out for
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  Speaker 5: all the mentions, the reasons that you mentioned. Marvin, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's a young man's game. He hasn't had a contact
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: and and got hit in the last four or five years,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: he had no training camp. He has a playbook that
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: he probably doesn't know what much is besides the handoff
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  Speaker 5: to the running back. I get that, but he still
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: has to complete passes for Indiana to win. It's just
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: a very very terrible, unfortunate, uh set of events for
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: for the Colts as they were completing marvelous season.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I'll say is this a lot of time
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: at quarterbacks. You know, depending upon if they had a
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: hip injury, back injury, and the injury, they'll tell you
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: they still got an arm, but it was their knee
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: that gave out. You know, they still got an arm,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: but it was their you know, their neck, whatever may be.
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  Speaker 4: So the reality is, like I said, if this guy
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  Speaker 4: spent the last couple of years healing in the therapy
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  Speaker 4: and doing all the things that he probably has the
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: ability to do, you know, it's a young man's game.
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  Speaker 5: But let's see, we'll see.
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  Speaker 6: Let's see, well, George.
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  Speaker 8: Another thing too, was, like I was saying, before, he
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  Speaker 8: runs a version of Shane Steichen's offense for his high school.
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  Speaker 8: They're twenty five and three with him as a coach
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  Speaker 8: at thirteen to one this year, so he knows that
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  Speaker 8: the offense already. It's just that's what I was saying.
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  Speaker 8: I don't want him. I want him to do play Actually,
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  Speaker 8: I want him do plenty of handoffs, maybe some bubble screens,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: do all that kind of stuff. I just don't want
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 8: him to try to play hero ball.
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  Speaker 4: The only way he goes to that team is if
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: he does some type of if he has some type
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  Speaker 4: of connection to the offensive offensive play caller. He doesn't
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: go to that team if he has no relationship with
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: those offensive coaches and has never seen that offense. That
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: doesn't work like that. So, yeah, you what you said
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  Speaker 4: is true, Jacob, I read that or I saw that
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  Speaker 4: on TV. But he definitely is familiar with that offense
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: already for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay to basketball here, good guys deserved to be paid.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: I'll give you an example of one of them. Kelvin Samson,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: will earn twenty three and a half million dollars in
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: a new four year deal, making him one of the
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: highest paid coaches in college basketball. The base salary be
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: five and a half million dollars in twenty five, twenty
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: six and twenty six twenty seven, and increase the six
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: million and twenty seven, twenty eight, and six and a
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: half million in twenty eight twenty nine. All right, Marvin,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: one of your thoughts about Kelvin Samson. This guy obviously
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: took his team to the finals, and now Houston Cougar's
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: are paying them back in a good way.
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  Speaker 4: Elite level coach, that's the going rate in the NIL
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: era where you have these big TV contracts. I'm surprised
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: he didn ge a little bit more Nat, to be honest.
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  Speaker 5: With you, really, okay, George, Well, I think it's very deserving.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this man has been a great coach for many,
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  Speaker 5: many years. I really am impressed by him what he
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: did last year, especially, Yeah, I mean, should he get
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: more probable sold? But it's still nice. It's a nice coin.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: It's a nice coin that he's gonna have now. And
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: that goes without saying Calvin has done a great job.
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  Speaker 2: Candy.
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  Speaker 1: He obviously was an assistant for the Milwaukee Bucks. I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: know you'll reasearch like, well, what are your thoughts it's.
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  Speaker 3: From two thousand and eight to twenty eleven. Yes, he
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  Speaker 3: I mean his coaching career started at Michigan State. He
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: went to Montana Tech, Washington State, Oklahoma, Indiana, Milwaukee Bucks,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: Houston Rockets, and now with Houston. He's been there since
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. He I mean, if I listen even just
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: like the championships, three NC two A Division one Regional
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: final fours, three Frontier tournaments, two Frontier regular season to
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  Speaker 3: four Big twelve tournaments, three Big twelve regular seasons, two
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: ACC tournaments, four ACC regular seasons, and if I go
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: through like Coach of the Year, AP Coach of the
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: Year twice, NABC Coach of the Year twice, Sporting News
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: Coach of the Year, Pat ten Coach of the Year,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: Big Eight Coach of the Year four time AEC Coach
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: of the Year, two time Big twelve Coach of the Year.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: All those accolades come for being a good coach. He's
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: an I mean, kudos to him. He's had a really
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: good career. I hope it continues.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you're getting paid, Jacob.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a definitely an early coach.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 8: And it's like, but you want to know something, he's
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 8: like something like seventy one years old and he's getting
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 8: this big. You know what that tells us also is
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 8: it's not just the athletes, but it's just the people
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: in general. When it comes to when it comes to
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 8: the PT, physical trip therapy, training, everything. These these coaches
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 8: and everybody, they don't smoke like they used to, don't
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 8: drink like they used to, they work.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: Out better like they did. You know, they've got better habits,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff. It's just a different world.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 8: So now you're talking about a gy whos by about
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 8: seventy one, seventy two years old, who's got a contract
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 8: in near eighty and we're not questioning it.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: That's the big thing.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 8: We're not questioning this like you would years ago. It's like,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 8: oh my god. It's like like they talked about Connie
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 8: Maximate years ago. His last ten years he sat in
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 8: the dugout Larrybells do it because he was just kind
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: of there and he was kind of there. You don't
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 8: have that anymore. It's like that just shows everything and
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 8: his mindset. People could be rooting for him to win
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 8: it all, you know what I mean. So he's got
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 8: himself a few years to do it.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to a non sports topic. This one
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: really intrigued me.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: You talk about growth worldwide, this one's definitely gonna get
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: you more than four hundred African American companies earn over
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: one billion annually. And I'm talking about African American companies
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: earn over one Excuse me, I was over again because
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: this is pretty interesting. More than more than four hundred
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: African American companies or over one billion annually, and Africa
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: is home to approximately three hundred and forty five companies.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: It leaves with one hundred and forty seven such firms,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: accounting for over forty percent of the continent's total. Egypt
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: follows with forty three companies, Nigeria twenty three, and Morocco
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: host twenty. I know this is different, Marvin, but I
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: talked about a worldwide economy that affects everybody.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about what you've heard here?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, no doubt about it. I think there's
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: so much information on finance and entrepreneurship, and it's it's
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: now such a part of the culture and the music,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: and you know, you're seeing it, you're seeing evidence of that.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying This is consistent with what
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: we were saying about how the narrative you know, has
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: grown and changed with athletes again, just more information and
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: more resources, so you know, over time, you're going to
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: see this and you know, especially with the African American groups,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: and I'd love to hear that basically as I have
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: career to myself. Definitely, it's it's inspiring and I don't
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: think that's something that's that's said enough. But yeah, it's
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: all a part. It's all about a positive movement toward
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: entrepreneurship and just you know, having financial information.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: Great South Marvin, go ahead, George, Well, I applaud them.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the African American community has come from,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: as we know, just a horrible situation, you know, decades
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: and centuries ago. The fact of the matter is is
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: that I cannot believe that, and just not the politics,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: but just the resources that are available and the stuff
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: that you know that they can make and sell and
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: market is incredible. There's so many countries in Africa that
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: have outstanding workers, outstanding products, and it's about time that
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: we paid attention. Okay, I'm just saying this because the
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: last guy that was president and the current guy, they've
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: had like one to two visits to a country in Africa.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: Come on, this is a great area, This is a
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: great part of the world. People are eager to learn,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: and yes there's problems with the civil unrest, but they're great.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: They're great, and these companies illustrate to me, even if
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: they're American based, that they have a great, great sense
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: of where they came from. So I'm all for it.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: I think that's that's great news.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big ten over tech.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna differ on Israel right now because I have
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of other topics, but maybe another time.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Your ads for five viewers, I don't know about that.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Congrats, I'm not sure about that either, Candy, some talks
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: about this current topic that we're talking about, you know,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: It's it's great. It's great for economy. Not only are
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: there blacks, but they're especially black women led companies to
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: significant tech startups with massive opportunities in agriculture, tech and services.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: And there's funding that has also helped some of these
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: because we're trying to help fund and help these countries.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: So that's been able to help. Although black led startup
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: receives significantly less venture capital than foreign lead ones, but
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not as developed of a country as
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of as a lot of us, so there's
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: a lot more opportunity out there. So hey, if you
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: want to invest in some untapped markets, here we.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: Go, Jacob, fifty four countries in Africa. We have this
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: knowledge now as far as the whole continent.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 8: Yet to this day we have the stupid the Tyson
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: versus Floyd Mayweather announcing that they're going to have a
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 8: that they're going to have a match in Africa.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 6: Like, how big can you be?
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 8: Are you?
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 6: Are they trying to tell us to go find it?
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's fifty four countries. But here's the thing. Also,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 6: the continents still dark.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 8: If they get their solar power and any of the
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: other powers get it up, if they can get out
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: away from the civil unrest and everything like that, Africa
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 8: is gonna be the richest cotton in the world. Let's
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 8: just be completely honest about that. So there's we're watching
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 8: the early stages of this right now. You watch when
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: I turned, when I turned seventy, It's gonna be the richest.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: I promise you, I'm forty seven. Now, it's gonna be
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 8: the richest continent in the world, just because it's gonna be.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: All lit, and there's gonna be all those.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 8: There's gonna be all those minerals and all the stuff
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 8: that you can get and all the opportunities and the
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 8: people we see, and you're gonna see more of the
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: African nations in the NBA and in other sports and
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 8: all that stuff.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 6: You just watch it over the years coming.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed the response from everybody on this panel. That's
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: why I dug deep into my bag of tricks to
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: go out there and pull this one out. Great Scott
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: by everybody. A couple more non sports topics going up
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: on a fundent. I know Jacob has a lot to
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: talk about. We're doing okay for now with time, but
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: this is a very inspiring one. A TV influence who
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: chriinal cancer Chrodinals or cancer Journey, died at the age
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: of fourteen and zoos up being stopped her sharing her
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: battle on social media with millions. All right, Marvin, this
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: is a brilliant inspiring story. What are your thoughts about
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: this young teen influencer of the sharing her battle on
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: social media? Zoo's up being everybody a very inspiring young
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: lady at fourteen.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's the active leader to active leadership. It's Kurt's
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: courageous man. Just you know, for her to be able
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: to allow others to see her journey. Uh, so it
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: may help them heal, so they could feel better about
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: their situation, so they don't feel as a loone. She's
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: she's given awareness, she's teaching people, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: So I applaut those kind of acts. Men, I do
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: we hear again, it's a great I'm sorry, I just
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: maybe lost her life, but you know, it's outstanding to
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: see young people lead in that way and show that
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: kind of courage, especially in the day and age where
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, our young people are struggle and
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: I do. I think this kind of message is kind
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: of heart, this kind of this, this kind of situation
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: is just overall inspiring. So sorry to hear about it,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: you know, but again I applaud to young lady for
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: her courage.
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  Speaker 5: George, Yeah, didt oh didd o? I agree with you, Marvin,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: And this young lady deserves the alcoloid. So, I mean,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: this is an amazing journey she was on. Unfortunately it
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: ended not the way we all wanted it to end.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: And but the fact of the matter is that she's
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: able to reach an audience of young people that have
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: other instances of this or any kind of sickness or
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: or or problems to suicide thoughts, whatever it is. I mean,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of teens out there that
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: need this and need information so they can be more
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: positive in their life.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: Candy, do you know where she's from? She is from Walkishaw, Wisconsin. Yes. Yes,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: she loved clothes, skincare, and Taylor Swift. She spent a
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: few seconds scrolling on our social media. Basically, she was
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: diagnosed with acute Mylloyd leukemia at three years old. AML
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: is a blood cancer more commonly found in adults. Her
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: TikTok account, with two point eight million followers, has videos
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: that range from her trying new skincare products to viral
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: get Ready with Me videos where she dives into explaining
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: her cancer journey. You're not able to go on playdates,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: You're not able to go to the mall, her grandmother
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: told her. The platform is her way to reach out
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: to people and to help have some sense of a
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: normal life. She said. Zula's online presence and friends online
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: often filled the void left by her illness. She grew
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: resilient and strong, amassing millions of supporters on TikTok and Instagram.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: Her family announced of her passing. It was heartbreaking for
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: the online community that had considered her a friend. She
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: took her followers on a journey and she shared the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: incredible moments of triumph, and she shared she actually shared
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: the raw moments as well. So she had multiple bone
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: marrow transplants, many treatments. Kudos to someone of her age
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: being able to do that and share life like that.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: That's something that typically is a very private you're going
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: through all those, you know, treatments like that. But for
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: her to expose that side of her I give her
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of credit.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, Jacob time, I know that's one more non sport topics.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: You know, when I hear an influencers sometimes I share it.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 8: I just kind of like shudder a little bit because
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 8: I'm always expecting when I here influencer that dies, it's
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 8: usually suicide or something bad. Other worse, you know, is
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 8: violence or whatever, because the whole idea of the influencer
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 8: sometimes that's all they live off for.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 6: But that's all she had.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 8: She couldn't go out to the Mauk and go out
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 8: of their friends can go anything, and she had no
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 8: immune system to do that.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 6: She helped a lot of kids and a lot of
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: people in this life.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 8: So I'm glad that I was wrong in this, and
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 8: she was a brave young lady, and I mean rest
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 8: in peace to her.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 6: She's definitely hit with the angels. There's no question.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you know I put this up here for
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: a reason. Joe Smith twenty two three four one. Oh,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: here's a here's a coffee for Jacobs.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: More than coffee. I'm telling you, it's more.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: All right, But hold on, there's a reason why I
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: pushed this off. I don't feel too bad. It's okay,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: and the.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Reason why it's our last non sports topic of the night,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: and I've been waiting for a while to do it.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Iceland has no McDonald's or no Starbucks. Oh sorry, you
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: can't get so Iceland. I'm going back to Iceland. I've
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: left Iceland out for a little while. We are talked
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: about no no coffee or no Starbucks.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Yet I love Jacob, will let you leave it on.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 8: I'm be trying to sound very cool with it because
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 8: they don't have any of the bad habits of going
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 8: out for everything quicker, and they like I've heard of
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 8: Iceland making bread inside of.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 6: A volcano, so we're not gonna get that.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 8: When you have a McDonald's or a Starbucks, they probably
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 8: make coffee differently.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 6: Also, so I'm cool. I'm for it.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: Candy.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: Are you sure that they don't have either, because.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: My sources they are. Don't question my sources.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: Well, according to my sources, Iceland's first ever Starbucks and
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: Razevik opened in twenty twenty five.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: All right, just started looking back when they had this
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: gone on candy.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, So, Iceland, famously known for no McDonald's with it,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: actually had one, but it closed back in twenty nine
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: due to the financial crisis making important ingredients too costly.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: And let's face it, we we go to McDonald's because
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: it's cheap, it's quick, and well, if you go there,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: it's cheap, it's quick. And when you're talking about importing
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: all the way over to Iceland, it just didn't make sense.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 6: And so I get it.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: But Iceland was a very beautiful country, nice place to visit.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: I love Iceland. Well I have more in Iceland. Saying
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: something later, I've just given it a break for a
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: little while.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: All right, Marvin pros and cons to living way out
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: there like that. You know what I'm saying pros and
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: cons to that. You know, the pro is I mean,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: all I've seen is the green sky and how beautiful
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: it is and all that stuff. You know, you guys
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: had your journey there that you share parts of online.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: And you know the fact that the fact that they
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: don't deal with the American issue, uh, you know, different
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: them so on the downside. And then again, well, the
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: end of McDonald's, I mean, I mean got lee, guys.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: I mean McDonald's is it's had a fast food. I mean,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: it's not a health chain, right, so, uh, they're probably
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: better off without it, even though I've bought more happy
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: most from my kids than anybody else, you know, in
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: the history of his planet. But yeah, pros and cons.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: Living in Iceland, y'all, that's you know, you have to
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 4: wait until twenty twenty five to get a Starbucks and
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: you don't have McDonald's. That's sorry. We got thatt as beautiful.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: That ain't the worst thing in the world, all right, George.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 5: Two of my favorite places, you know, Starbucks for their
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: great coffee and McDonald's. In fact, mcdade've got a pretty
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: decent coffee themselves. I was kind of surprised, but knowing
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: that it's on its way. But yeah, two of the
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 5: biggest names obviously in the US. But I then, hey,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 5: things might be a little bit slower, it might take
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 5: more time to open up places like that or else.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 5: Like you said, they maybe not even have the had
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: the partner, the word, the appetite for the for these
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 5: until just you know, recently. But I think it's a
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: really interesting Scott that it's taken that long.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to believe.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have time for his fun and
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: a man's stepping up there ready delivered as mister Jacob
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: Christopher go ahead. I'm sure you got about five to
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: seven minutes or so.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 6: The stake might get a lesser of the ward penning.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: Way.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Jacob also be on sports track tomorrow. He's one of
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: our big superstars in hockey.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jacob.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I heard a thing from Mike Tomlin that stood
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 8: out today. They asked him about him being on the
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 8: hot seat, and he said, I've been on the hot
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 8: seat for nineteen years, and this is the truth on
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 8: black athletes, black coaches, and whatever. There is a people
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 8: have heard the truth, and they'll say this that you
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 8: have to be double and triple that good to stick around.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 8: The idea of it is that he's had to a
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 8: guy like Tomlins had to win every year to stay.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 6: Which gets me to Sean Moore.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 8: If you know this, if you understand that they have
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 8: to have a that you have to have an expectation
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 8: to be able to be to have an excellence. It's
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 8: not just excellence in your record. It's not just excellence
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: in your record. Is excellence in your daily life? It
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 8: is it is, I mean, keeping your ego in check
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 8: and curving it. What happened today right by the way,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 8: you got fired for a what it sounds like a
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 8: improper thing with a staffer, but it's not the point.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, you are married, unless I heard you're married.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 6: But here's the thing. You also got arrested.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 8: You have now hurt a lot of possible black coaches
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 8: chances alone. So with so many different parts of the
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 8: war a country, you hurt their chances without question. Because
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 8: that's all over the news right now, It's gonna be
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 8: all over the news tomorrow. If you hear a legend
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 8: like Tomlin say something like that, you hear all the
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 8: legends of every sport, entertainment and everything saying we have
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 8: to be triple as double as good, to get somewhere,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 8: to be able to get the same as the white individual.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 8: They say that, you know, I mean why, I'm not
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 8: putting a debate on anything like that. I'm just saying
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 8: what they say, and there is an a debate because
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 8: there's a lot of truth to it. But if you
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 8: know this, why are you making mistakes like this? Why
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 8: did Udoka make his He's back with Houston, but he
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 8: doesn't have another chance.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: I don't think so if he would do it again,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: I think he knows it.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 8: We've got it by itself. The egos have got to
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 8: get curbed, and there needs to be more mentors in
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 8: the community.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: By itself. I've been a basketball coach twice.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 8: As ave been a basketball coach twice, as far as volunteer.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 8: I've had black kids, I've had girls, I've had all
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 8: that stuff. And the thing I say all the time
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 8: is find yourself. And I've said this, I've said by
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 8: a black mentors because they've got a lot of theirs.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 8: I want them to be able to do it. But
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 8: for the mentors in this world, you need to have
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 8: your ex spectations higher. If it's until the case comes right,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 8: that until the taste comes that you have an equal
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 8: footing on this world.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: That you don't have to be triple as good to stick,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 6: or you.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 8: Don't have to be like Tom Win and win every
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 8: year to stick until that time, get your egos in
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 8: check and have yourself a real expectation.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Well your better pun of pund than I've ever heard
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: well say about Sharon Moore is number one. Jim Harbaugh
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: succeeding him was the best opportunity you ever had, and
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: was you get suspended with cause you are a d
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: O N E done. We'll talk a lot more about
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: this obviously on Tuesday night's edition of Inside Depiction. We'll
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: have our big crew up there and we'll all talk
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: about it. But Sharon is more, in my opinion, is
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: an absolute embarrassment and he's going to get whatever he deserves.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: That that's just an unbelievable You. You have the greatest
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: job in college football and you sat there and just
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: blew it the way he did.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: That is bad.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: Jim Harbor won't be able to get him out of this.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: As an update, just so everybody is awareof, he has
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: been arrested and booked into jail at this.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Time Okay, thank you, that's bad.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: Won't say it's a sexual assault, yes, sexual.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: Assault, wow, assault investigation and a lleged assault investigation.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 6: Like I said, his career, we already know his careers over.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 6: But he's just heard a lot of black coaches potential.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: He sure did.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: Mel Tucker didn't help his cause anyone he got left
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: go by Michigan State. So now you have two Yeah, well,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Unfortunately, this is just the way
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: it is in Michigan. Okay, you had two African Americans
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: holding the top jobs in those respective states, and now
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: inside of the Earth they're not there. I'm not this
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: is not an African American problem at all. I'm not
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: going there. I'm just saying you had Cheri Moore and
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: Michigan m mel Tucker, and it's just too bad that
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: those two individuals are not leading their respective programs. That's
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say about it. But we'll talk about
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: this topic on Tuesday Night's edition of Inside the Fiction.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm anxious to hear with Ben Troop and
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: Tom Shanahan they have I'm Marvin, you'll have an opportunity
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: to go in more detail as well.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna turn you guys loser.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: Won't be as many topics as there have been in
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: the pathwa this will be on that rush. Okay, Well
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: that said, we have time till everybody know they get
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: a hold of you.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 8: Go ahead, Jacob, I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna
• 1:51:29
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• 1:51:33
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• 1:51:39
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• 1:51:42
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• 1:51:44
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• 1:51:51
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• 1:51:52
  Speaker 10: I do and in my meantime.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: You know, now, man, I got oh, I know you
• 1:51:57
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  Speaker 1: and you're on with me Tuesday and Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, And Marvin, you're a busy, busy man.
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  Speaker 4: Everything Scott just said, and I'm busy Scott it. I
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  Speaker 4: appreciate the opportunities here. I'm on here with the South
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  Speaker 4: Floriter of Tribune Tuesday evening, Wednesday morning, Wednesday evening, and
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  Speaker 4: you could also catch us on Saturday as well. You
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  Speaker 4: can catch my handles Marvin on the mic, and you
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  Speaker 4: can catch me on LOCKEDWN. You see Mondays and Thursday
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  Speaker 4: with Mark Colgany.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, George, go ahead, all right.
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  Speaker 5: You can find my columns at the South Florida Tribune
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  Speaker 5: under the contributor section and at the end of my
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  Speaker 5: column there's always a link there. I have a book
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  Speaker 5: called Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the Air, chronicling eighty ninety
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  Speaker 5: years of sports on radio and television Detroit. Some great
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  Speaker 5: people that, of course Scott and I grew up with
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  Speaker 5: listening and admiring and having them mentor us as well.
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  Speaker 5: I can be reached on Twitter or ex at Sanji
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  Speaker 5: Sports ninety nine or giicorner Yahoo dot com. I'm also
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  Speaker 5: on LinkedIn a lot on Facebook as well. Hope to
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  Speaker 5: see y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, well done, great show tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Glad to have Scott, Solomon, Gladyad Jacob, Chris, Ron, George, Marvin,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are great. Candy, what can I say about Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they have it said already. She's the brains of the operation.
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  Speaker 1: She does a great job on the air. By what
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  Speaker 1: she does behind the scenes, nobody didn't even begin to
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  Speaker 1: have them. So with that said, Yandy, yeah she's she's
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  Speaker 1: on the ole. Well, so with that said, think I
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  Speaker 1: want to thank everybody for joining us on this edition
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  Speaker 1: of the Sports Exchange. Tomorrow night we have sports wrapping
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  Speaker 1: Fire Up and of course don't forget on Saturday you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna find Marvin and I, Candy and mel On inside
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  Speaker 1: the picts in aka Is. We think Fire Up is
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  Speaker 1: a country club. We got a boxing match between the
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  Speaker 1: two Southern California. Guys, I love watching I have a
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  Speaker 1: front row seat, and everybody else can have a front
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  Speaker 1: row seat as well by two tonight. So with that said,
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for joining us tonight and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see you tomorrow night with our program. Good night everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and thanks for God tonight