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Joe Schimmel: Marvel & DC’s War On God, How Satan Uses Entertainment · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Hi, I'm Stan Lee, editor of the Marvel Comics Group of Superhero comic magazines.
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  Stan Lee, the human face behind Marvel Comics,
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  that inspired the greatest movie genre in human history
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  have a dark and nefarious agenda.
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  Stan Lee, seek to distort the one true God into a bumbling creator,
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  unworthy of worship, did Lee and Marvel Comics portray Satan as a real hero
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  or savior of humanity?
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  Stan Lee uses comics to promote
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  but the Bible calls the coming strong delusion
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  whereby the world is deceived to receive the final antichrist.
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  Are you afraid of dying?
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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues,
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  discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off-limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Hey friends, kind of chilling when someone with that much influence
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  is going on.
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  And you can't help but think that some of that is in some of his creations.
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  So we'll talk with Pastor Joe Shimmel, Blessed Hope Chapel,
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  Seamy Valley, California, Pastor out there.
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  I used to be out there and just a great man of God.
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  And he is with good fight ministries.
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  Why should we be concerned about him?
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  Why should we be concerned about him?
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  He is the face um, the the face
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  many young people growing up. And now many older people because they grew up with them,
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  then it became the Marvel cinema. So then it took the world by storm because it's the top genre
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  in movies for the last several years. It dwarfs everything else by way of comparison.
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  And Stan Lee made 60 Camille appearances, 60 different movies, Marvel movies. So you can
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  you see his influence. And he was influenced over the main influence over the characters and what
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  went on there at Marvel. But in this video, we, you know, this expose, we explore his world view
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  and what he's teaching and what he's communicating in his characters and so forth. And we look at
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  some of the things that meant most to him. So you can get even more chilling. You mentioned the word
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  chilling when you see the idea that he pervades regarding his own conviction upon others is probably
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  coming through in comics. Well, that's most certainly true because we show a close friend of his
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  who would have lunch with him periodically for a number of years and stating in that very context
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  that Stan said he is not that he was an atheist. A lot of people think Stan Lee was an atheist.
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  He says Stan Lee believed in God. He just believed that God was lesser than perfect and that God
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  wasn't a perfect God. And Stan Lee had more of a gnostic view of God. The gnastics were the
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  second and third century. And even the latter part of the first century, when you read first John
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  and other New Testament books, we see that they, they, John identifies them as having the spirit
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  of Antichrist. And they were posed, they believe in God, the creator, but they believed he was a
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  weak, imbecilic kind of God that we needed to be, you know, delivered from. Stan Lee had a view
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  like that of God. And it's certainly, and we can talk about it. It certainly came through in his
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  comics because the superheroes became the heroes and God, as he, as he basically depicts him,
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  is diminished. Well, I'm going to give the website marveldcexposed.com. You can go to goodfight.org
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  or you can go to marveldcexposed.com. I want to quote you, Pastor Joe Shimmel, let you
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  expound even more. You said many leading comic book writers have admitted that they're using
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  seduction manipulation, the occult, and even the Bible to influence children to view the God of
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  the Bible from a twisted slant. And you say our series aims to help families recognize these
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  underlying messages and equip them with a biblical response. And quote, and yet Pastor Joe,
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  a lot of Christian families go to all of these movies. They're watching all these TV programs
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  and they're taking in the, even though it's subtle seduction at times, sometimes it's blatant
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  anti God, anti Christ. Talk to a little bit more about that. Yeah. And I want to, you know, as a pastor
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  regarding pastoral world view, biblical world view, a council, I recognize the difficulty in
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  bringing up our children in this culture, you know, my children are young. I kept them from a lot
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  of things and they've grown up by the grace of God to all three of them becoming, you know,
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  strong men and women of God now or a man, one son and two daughters. But there was a time when,
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  you know, Spider-Man came out and Marvel became cinematic. I thought all these things, these,
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  you know, I can check them out, you know, don't trust, but, but, you know, verify, wonder what,
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  you know, is being communicated here. And I was able to take them to some of the early Marvel
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  movies, but then a lot of the adult humor started being communicated. And then all of a sudden,
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  I started realizing, wow, it's not from the, you know, like the first Spider-Man,
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  even the first Spider-Man that was an interesting scene in there were at May, you know,
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  she's being just on the verge of being destroyed. And she's right in the middle of her prayer,
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  delivers from evil, but God can't deliver her. But yes, what? You know, her nephew Spider-Man
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  will come through for. And I started to see that while there's a communication here that shows
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  that human heroes are greater than God, ultimately. And to give you just a quick, your audience,
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  a quick purview into, you know, the influence that some of these guys have that's incredibly
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  nefarious. It's, it's, it's, you know, absolutely irrefutable that these guys, many of these
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  have wicked agendas. And that would be, if you look at, if they just went to the comic book review
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  website, which is the biggest, you know, website online regarding the most popular website,
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  as far as, you know, criticizing or pumping up, you know, looking at what comics are the
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  best and so forth. Every four years, they have a, a poll and they and tons of people vote on who
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  the top writers are. And they go to the top 100. So every four years that switches, well,
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  as of a year ago in January, just over a year ago, the two of the top guys were Alan Moore and
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  Grant Morrison. The new vote came in. It's Alan Moore number one. It's called the Shakespeare
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  of comic in the graphic novel. Number two is Grant Morrison. And number three is Stan Lee.
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  Wow. And if you just look at these three, and I'll just say a few words about each is Alan Moore,
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  the top guy, top dog there, he says he practices Satanist Alistair Crowley's magic. He says he got
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  in touch with the demon of cinema. He has an underground layer. He calls, where's the ring with
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  the big serpent on it. He calls himself a gnostic. And he says that if you communicate with these
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  demonic entities, you just have to treat them right. So you're just not destroyed by them.
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  But they help him right. The son number two guy, Grant Morrison, same deal in the Crowleyism,
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  Crowley's magic and so forth. We show a depiction. We show him actually speaking to a bunch of
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  people and a bunch of young people screaming their braces off and older people as well about his
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  writing the ability. And we also show a clip of his buddy, a former BBC or former, I should say,
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  British presenter for British television saying, yeah, Grant shoots candy coated bullets into
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  the brains of children. And when they hit the brain, they get the kids, he gets the kids nice and
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  blanked up. Well, we show Grant Morrison, the number two guy speaking in front of a huge picture
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  of Alistair Crowley with 666 under it. And saying, I got into Crowley. How do you think I can
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  write like this? You guys need to buy his books. That's the number two guy. Number three guy,
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  which is what our next video is on, which of course is Stan Lee. Same deal. He made a character who
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  had two different movies since now called Dr. Strange. And Dr. Strange is the latest incarnation
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  of a guy that started out as Dr. Droom, not Droom, but Droom, rhyming with Broom, who became Dr.
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  Druid and then Dr. Strange. And we show that when he was called Dr. Droom, same origin story,
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  basically, he's the spit in image of a Satan's Alistair Crowley. Then they change his look. But he
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  has the same history. He uses eye on the triangle as a symbol. He begins as this British guy. He's
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  a magician and weds. He's trimissuses him with Western witchcraft. And I show like 20 different
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  parallels. But then I show the evidence because the guy named Steven Engelberg, he's one of the top
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  writers ever for Marvel and DC. He became a member. He did Dr. Strange for a number of years.
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  And he did. Even though Dr. Strange was developed by Steve Dicco, along with Stan Lee,
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  we show pictures of this guy dressed in his warlock outfit became a member of Crowley's OTO.
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  Actually wrote Jimmy Page about how about we use the mansion overlooking Loch Ness that you bought
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  where L. S. or Crowley lives so we can have our OTO meetings in Europe, even though he's an American.
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  And we actually we actually play him on a podcast, a Crowley podcast where it starts off with,
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  you know, their music and somebody saying, do what that will. She'll be the whole of law.
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  And then he laughed with the guy about how he snuck in Crowley's magic and stuff and teachings
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  into the character of Dr. Strange. So that guy was developed a lot, but we show where
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  Stan Lee said we got to bring the sorcerer back and so forth. And that's one of the things we focus
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  in in the movie. There's a lot of other things that are just as powerful in it, but maybe we
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  can cover some of those as well. Wow. Just the history on those three guys. Just amazing.
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  And to think about Crowley and his influence on Led Zeppelin and all that, I know you've done a lot
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  on music. They sold their souls for rock and roll. Again, there's a plug. And it's free, by the way,
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  if somebody goes to the good fight outdoor site, we have that three hour version. We have a 10 hour
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  version, but three hour, which is the average version is free for everybody. Fantastic. There it is.
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  You guys much must check that out. They sold their souls for rock and roll. That is one of the
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  things, the tools that God used to bring my wife, Rosanna, to a savings college of the Lord Jesus
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  Christ and God used your ministry. Thank you, Jesus. I want to read Ray Comfort, living water's
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  ministry said, Pastor Joe Shimmel's documentaries are always cutting edge, timely and incredibly
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  informative. Marvel and DC's war on God does not disappoint. And I want to ask you, Joe, with all
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  the garbage, the stuff that Hollywood puts out, that the music industry puts out, that commercials,
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  that everything in culture, there's a lot that you could write about. What, I mean, what made you
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  focus on Marvel and DC, the comics and the movies? What made you decide to go this route?
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  That's a great question, Dave. Only because it was kind of strange, because that's the last
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  thing I thought I'd be doing an expose on, right? I didn't think that they sold their souls
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  for rock and roll. You know, I did Hollywood's war on God, which shows narcissism within the
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  movies and so forth. And I did a lot of expose through the years, and pastoring full time is full
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  time. You know, so I've tried to be very picky about what I poured my heart into research-wise.
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  And so, you know, I do podcasts, a couple times a week, pastors, messages, a couple times a
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  week. So I was like, Lord, I didn't want to actually do it. So what happened was, and I knew very
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  little about comics just being upfront, you know, I saw some of the movies and so forth. Remember
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  some of the comics when I was a kid, very little bit. So one day, I was no longer going to,
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  you know, taking the kids early on. But that thought, you know what, there's too much, it looks like
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  there's an inversion going on where the bad characters start to look, or the good, or the hero
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  is kind of nebulous morally. It's not really communicating, you know, good, you know, good godly
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  morals to my children. And sometimes it seems like it's subversive. So I got away from them.
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  These comics, right? I thought, okay, I'm not going to take them to superhero movies. And they
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  got a little bit older and, you know, they make their own decisions as they get older and so forth
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  in their adults and so forth. But so I was like, you know what? But I'm not going at the same time,
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  I don't know enough to condemn the whole thing. I just, you know, when you got Hollywood writers,
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  you know, you got to be concerned because you're going to need a worldly worldview quite often.
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  We just took that standard right there. So brother, there was a Infinity Wars movie coming,
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  yeah, came out and they were showing the trailer with Thanos, who's like the main, you know,
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  antagonist and he's, or he, you know, the evil character, the villain. And I'll send he says,
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  I am, and there's a pregnant pause, you know, and it's evidentable. And I'm like, okay,
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  don't tell me they're making him look like the I am. And I just thought that's terrible. I can see
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  where they're going with that, you know, and then I think COVID hit or whatever. Then the follow-up
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  to that movie, the actual Infinity Wars, it was a couple of different movies, right? And there
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  is again, and there he's announced in the new trailer, I am, and pregnant pause again. I'm like,
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  and then I put my hands in the air, Dave, I was in front of my computer working, you know,
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  the commercials pop up. And when you're, you're looking at things and so forth and a podcast or
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  whatever I was looking at. And I'll send, I put up my hands, I said, Lord, if you, if the same
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  thing's happening in these comics, that's happening in what I exposed with a soldier soul's
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  rock and roll, I'd exposed by the way, Alan Moore a little bit in Hollywood's War on God. And
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  that was more in relation to the movies, but I knew he was a graphic writer for comics. I just didn't
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  know in depth, because I just pray I said, Lord, if there's something more to this, and you want
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  me to expose it, you know, burn it on my heart, show me somehow. So I don't just get off of this
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  tangent that is not from you and it's not fruitful. And brother, when I woke up that morning man,
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  my heart was burning to expect that you have to delve into this, you have to jump into you have
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  to expose it. And I thought, man, okay, I went and brother, a matter of, I'm not kidding, hours,
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  I'm like, uh-oh, this, because I started seeing these connections, because I started looking at
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  the top writers. And I started seeing how they were connected to Crowley, how they were trying
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  to promote Crowley's view. The top writer, Alan Moore says, he's a Joseph Goebbels, that was
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  Adolf Hitler's propaganda minister. He was, I'm the Joseph Goebbels of arts, you know? We show
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  a clip of being interviewed by BBC saying you take girls like Alice in London and Land in these
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  stories, you know, the Cinderella, these type of characters, and you make them pre-pubescent,
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  and you put them in sexualized situations where they're having sex with people. This is
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  pornographic. And he goes, yeah, it is pornographic. We show the interview, he goes, but I can get
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  away with it because it's considered strict, fictitious. This is their premier spoole, he's
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  pin-moting, uh, I'll call it PDF-billion, or P Diddy, you know? That's their tour of my coin a
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  couple weeks back, a couple months ago, because we'll see what happens with that anyway.
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  Well, past joke, we've gotta take a brief break here. And when we come back, I just want to ask you
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  a few more questions about this. This is fascinating to me because children are watching. It seems
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  innocent, as you said, because it's fiction. And these are those comic books, they're superheroes.
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  But the website, again, friends, Marvel DC Exposed.com. We'll be right back with Pastor Joe Shemel.
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  Friends, thanks to you. And of course, under our sovereign God, thank you, Jesus. Our episodes
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  have been surging across various platforms. We just want to praise God and remind you to follow us,
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  a rap, uh, apple, uh, Spotify, Facebook, rumble, YouTube, freedom project, media app. We, we
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  are just so thankful. So Pastor Joe, what are some of the more subversive super heroes out there
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  today? Because most people are familiar with everything that's Hollywood's put out in the last
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  several decades, because it's been so prominent. And these are blockbuster movies. So what are
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  some of the most, I guess, subversive would be the word? Yeah. Well, that's a good question.
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  Since we just came out with Stanley God in the devil, is I was mentioning to you that Stanley
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  in his interview, or I should say in his, uh, his friend comes forth after having lunch with him
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  a bazillion times saying, yeah, he believed in God. He just believed that, you know, God was just
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  efficient, you know. So, uh, I've mentioned that he diminishes God in the comics and then, uh,
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  but then you get a hero that steps up and becomes incredibly subversive. In fact, he's the most
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  subversive, one of the most subversive super heroes because he's actually, uh, Satan in the form
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  of the angel of light. And there's a new movie coming out, uh, a few months away from now,
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  or so. I don't know the exact date. I'll have to look and find out when that's coming up,
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  but a movie on Galactus, which is when Stanley is huge character because he had the fantastic
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  four fight Galactus and that became an epic, uh, time in comics, uh, when people were really
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  thinking, man, this is what helped comics take off is Stanley wanted to create a character who
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  would represent God and have the fantastic four fight God because that would be, you know,
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  the ultimate deal. At least that's what, uh, at least that's what, uh, Jack Kirby, uh,
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  felt he was doing for, uh, Stanley after Stanley mentioned, let's deal with this character
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  because Jack Kirby and we show this, we show within, uh, in any of us, we show interviews in
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  our, uh, and site interviews throughout the video. And we actually placed up a Stanley regarding
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  some of this material I'm talking about, but we show where where Jack, uh, Kirby said when he was
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  young and he goes through it and we, you know, little dramatization and so forth, but, uh, he was a,
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  a teenager and we're very young. And there was a specific Jews dancing around him praying because
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  his parents brought him in because they saw him manifesting what they were believed, believed
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  demonic possession. And they're trying to cast a demon out of him. He says it's at that time
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  that he realized that all these things were coming out of him. These, these pictures, these ideas,
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  and they came flooding psychedelic types of things that became part of the psychedelic sixties,
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  uh, that all these ideas came from him. And so he's working with Stanley and he says I had to
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  make Galactus God because I, he says I went to the Bible and to find, to learn more about this
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  character and he goes, I actually had to move away from dealing with him for well because it was
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  fearful thing. So he deals with Galactus who's this evil character who's just eats, you know,
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  whole universes and, or, you know, planets and, but he has an emissary and his emissary is, uh,
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  supposed to be a noble person and that's the silver surfer. Uh, and that, that silver surfer was,
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  was way popular beginning the sixties because the poster and fluorescent and black lights and all
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  that stuff, uh, and it's cooler looking muscular silver character on a surfboard and he becomes a hero,
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  but at first he's serving Galactus and he goes as kind of an emissary kind of like John the Baptist
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  to let the planet know that they're going to be, you have to submit and they're going to be eaten.
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  He's this character, but then he comes to earth and then the earthlings are like, how could you
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  allow us to happen in the movie? It's Jessica Alba, right? It's, you know, having this affection for
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  him and, and he upset how could you do this? But then they, he connects with her and he has to
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  change a heart, you know, he says, yeah, you know what? This is really basically it's evil.
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  And he ends up fighting against Galactus and destroying Galactus, uh, but by, by sacrificing
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  himself, ultimately destroying Galactus's plan to eat the earth. Well, if Galactus represents
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  God, who represented God that turned from God and he says, and we show it in his, we show an audio
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  of it, play an audio of it, he says, yeah, the silver surfer, he always represented the devil
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  of the Bible. So the silver surfer who's heroic and by the way, he forms a cross in the movie and
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  lights up and to collide with Galactus to destroy him. So he becomes like a false savior,
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  he becomes a false crises, an angel of light, and he represents Satan. So what's interesting
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  about this whole thing, Dave, is you look at the favorite comic that, when we go through this comic
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  of Stan Lee, he talks about his, and keep in mind, he believed in God, he just believed he was
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  deficient. In his favorite comic, he said, is parable and in parable, you know, Galactus who
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  represents God is coming to the planet to destroy it again. And it's this, it's his favorite
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  comic. And we go through it and we quote him saying that. And there is an evangelist, you know,
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  trying to get people to turn to God and so forth. He becomes this evil character who's killed
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  and Galactus is still coming. And it just so happens, you know, to cut to the chase regarding that
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  because I want to get to one more if we have time is Galactus is defeated again by the silver surfer.
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  But the silver surfer, then the United Nations wants to work with the silver surfer to bring
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  a world government or world peace on the earth, you know, which, you know, sounds like the whole
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  antichrist system, right? Right. And the silver surfer says two or three times throughout that
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  comic that, you know, he wants people to recognize their own inner divinity, their spark of divinity
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  within, which is the lie. Remember, says Satan wanted to be like the most high God. He told
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  leave you can be like God, you know, the antichrist who said the devil of God showed
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  something he is God. And here is the silver surfer teaching the satanic lie. So this is satanic to the
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  core. I'll give you one more example. Sure. Because movie that's coming up with the new Galactus
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  movie. So it's good timing is in regard to Galactus Stanley actually narrated a comic or a kind of
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  a comic thing that he wrote called God woke. And when he first presented this on stage, things
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  were thrown at him from the audience because it's such blasphemy against God. And we, we talk
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  about that. And you hear his voice and we, we play his voice and we show the, the panels of comics
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  going by. And what he does, he shows that God creates humanity. But when they pray to him,
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  he's indifferent toward their prayers. He does a wicked worldview that he doesn't care about them.
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  He's indifferent to them. He doesn't want to bother with their prayers. And they just sent
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  a chaos. And it's just horrific. And by the end of the comic, God looks at the mirror. And he asks
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  who's fault it really is. And he realizes it's his fault. And there's a tear in his eye and God
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  woke me. God, God woke to the reality that he's really the cause of all the problems. He's wicked.
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  He's, so he's not just efficient, but he's indifferent toward evil. So he's uncaring. And, and he's
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  basically a wicked being, which is, which is really interesting because this fits more of a
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  gnostic worldview than a theistic worldview. And of course, that's what Crowley was. And that's
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  what a lot of these guys are. They're not six deep down. They're against God. And when you,
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  we read the book Revelation and the end time books, it talks about a worldview where people are
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  actually fighting against God in the end, realizing he exists. So I believe it's preparation.
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  So I the first video is about the Antichrist agenda. The second one is on Doctor Strange,
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  the third one. We go right to the, the, the, you know, the jugular of the head of the snake,
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  basically, wow. There is so much more Joe, but we only have three minutes left. There's
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  the series right there, guys. You can go to goodfight.org or the website marveldcexposed.com. So
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  any cautions or things that you might want to share to encourage, we have a vast range of listeners
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  and viewers, different ages. But let's talk about the younger families whose kids,
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  some of these superheroes are their idols. They want to go see because all their friends are seeing
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  these movies. And I know some of these messages in the movies. We know the background of the people
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  and they are maybe subtle, but they're nonetheless evil and seductive. Any cautions or any encouragement
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  you can give a young mom and dad watching or listening. Yeah, I would encourage them to really
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  pray, understand that I'm not going around trying to be a killjoy. It's just I'm a dad to you.
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  And I'm a son of God, a child of God, along with you day and our brothers and sisters in Christ.
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  And I just have an earnest desire for to protect the children, you know. God came against the
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  priests and the Old Testament more than once because they did not make a distinction between that,
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  which was good and that which was evil. And we're warned that we need to make sure we're not
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  babes who are tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine. That's what children are. They're babes.
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  So they need to get off the milk and onto the meat eventually so they can discern good and evil.
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  Hebrews chapter five. So what I encourage parents to do is make their children aware of what's
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  happening amongst their kids, especially when they're tempted to watch all this stuff and let them
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  know, hey, there's certain things that we don't have for reason. We have a if you can't afford the
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  actual videos that we have available. We have a bunch of clips that we have online that are free.
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  Goodfight.org or I should say if you go to good fight ministries on YouTube, we make things
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  available all the time that are that are free. So you can make them aware of what's going on.
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  So you could teach them and give them a biblical worldview. I mean, brother, you know, who's the
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  ultimate example that they should have is the Lord Jesus Christ. And by the way, the children know
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  that these these characters are fictitious. They're not real. And even characters like Captain
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  America isn't representing even American values anymore. He's woke now. So it's like it's just really,
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  it's plurable. And I would encourage them to look to Jesus who actually existed. Our whole
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  calendar is around BC and 80 were in, you know, 2025. And the Hall of Faith chapter, Hebrews 11, you know,
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  look to the examples in scripture who were the real heroes who were real people who had victory
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  through God and get them to relate to those children, how their minds renewed through the word of
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  God, spending time with them, showing them you love them, not just bringing the hammer down,
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  but but letting them see your heart, letting them give them your time, your talent and your treasure
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  for God's glory. Amen, brother. Thank you so much for your time. I know you're so busy. Pastor Joe
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  Shimmel, see me, Valley, California, blessed hope, chapel, good fight ministries. And hopefully,
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  I'll connect with our brother Chad on five, eleven news. We'll have him on the show again soon.
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  We'll learn, we'll do this again soon. Appreciate it, Joe. Thank you. Love you very much.
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  Dave, thanks for having me on, brother. God bless you guys. Love you, brother. Thank you.
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  Friends, God bless you and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.