Latest / The Jake Wimberly Podcast / How does Dabo Swinney Rank as a Coach in 2024? Kelley Ford Discusses
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- 0:00Kelly Ford k Ford Ratings on Xkford Ratings dot Com is on your radio,
- 0:04Kelly. Welcome in, sir. How are you hey, Jake. I'm
- 0:07doing well today. How are you doing good? Doing really good? As
- 0:10we march towards March Madness, it's going to be fun. We're going to
- 0:13get into some of that in the second segment. Of course, we'll do
- 0:15a lot of that over the next few weeks with you looking at the tournament.
- 0:18I want to talk some college football though, to start out with,
- 0:20and I kind of want to work off, you know, get your thoughts
- 0:23on some of these teams. You know, obviously, I know you still
- 0:26got a long way to go, like the rest of us, working on
- 0:28analytics and what these rosters are going to look like. I saw or somebody
- 0:31on this show, I can't remember who it was I had on the other
- 0:33day, felt like Alabama would probably dip into the portal after spring practice,
- 0:37you know, a considerable amount to try to fill some of these spots.
- 0:40So we'll still have work to get into. But I want to start with
- 0:44Dabo Swinny and Clemson, And the reason I want to bring them up is
- 0:47because Bruce Feldman of the Athletic released his top ten college football coaches, and
- 0:51I don't really know where he you know, what his criteria is. He
- 0:55still has Dabo Swinny as the second best coach in college football. I tend
- 0:59to disagree with that, you know. You know, if you want to
- 1:00say over the life of a career, you might can make that argument.
- 1:04But Clemson and Daboswiney feel like they have a lot of work to do this
- 1:08year to really come, you know, and they'll be right there. We'll
- 1:11see. They played Georgia Week one. This is not the same Clemsoning team
- 1:15we knew five years ago though. Yeah, Jake, I completely agree with
- 1:19you. And to the point of, you know, where does Dabo fall
- 1:21in the current hierarchy of college football head coaches. It does depend on the
- 1:26time frame that you're going to look at, right, I mean, is
- 1:29it are you going back here ten years because if so, yeah, he's
- 1:32got the two national championships and not many coaches can speak to that level of
- 1:36success. Or are you going to judge it more on what have you done
- 1:38in the last three or four years? Five years? And they made a
- 1:42couple of playoffs here within that time frame. But it's certainly fallen off in
- 1:46recent recent years. And if I look, I'm quickly pulling up my preseason
- 1:51expectations from last year because it lists quickly where I had Clemson at the end
- 1:57of each college football season, and I'm looking at kind of where I think
- 2:00they might be here this year. It is possible and even likely Jake,
- 2:05that from a power rating standpoint, this is going to be the worst Clemson
- 2:08team that we've seen since maybe twenty fourteen. So you're going back a decade
- 2:14the last time we've seen a Clemson team. You know, they're probably in
- 2:16that fifteen the twenty range of power ratings if I had to guess right now
- 2:22what it's going to look like this fall, And the last time they were
- 2:24in that range of twenty fourteen, they finished the year number twenty one for
- 2:28me. So they're certainly trending in the wrong direction. But I would also
- 2:30say, Jake, Florida State is really the only team as I quickly look
- 2:35at the ACC composition for next year, and of course it changes with Stanford
- 2:38CALSMU coming in, you know, Florida State's the only team that I'm going
- 2:42to say definitively right now is maybe a higher power rated team than Clemson,
- 2:46and they do have to go to Florida State in the regular season. They
- 2:50do have Georgia in Atlanta to open the year. As you alluded to,
- 2:53sough, tough, tough schedule. They are a tough couple of games,
- 2:57but Clemson's still going to be among the favorite. It's in the ACC.
- 3:00That speaks probably more to the ACC than anything else. But yeah, certainly
- 3:04not the cleansing powerhouse that we've been used to seeing. Really from that twenty
- 3:08fifteen to twenty twenty ish time Brame Kelly Forward talking college football, we'll get
- 3:14some college basketball. Second segment, k Ford Ratings on Exkford ratings dot com.
- 3:17When is the edition of the program? All right, not in the
- 3:20top ten, But I do want to stay in the ACC since you brought
- 3:23up Florida State, and I want to move past Florida State and go to
- 3:25Miami because you know, there's a lot we do know and it's a kind
- 3:29of came through here and I've got my initial you know, strength of schedule
- 3:31rankings for a lot of these teams Miami. When you look at Miami and
- 3:37you kind of depended on what we mean, you've talked about this off the
- 3:38year. How you calculate it. They've got arguably the best roster with Florida
- 3:43State in the in the ACC. They've got the quarterback with cam Ward coming
- 3:46in. Their schedule is very, very manageable, is it? The big
- 3:52thing for me is what about you know, their coaching staff, what about
- 3:55their head coach? I mean because when you look at it at his red
- 4:00you're talking about a guy that's one game over five hundred in his career.
- 4:03Everything. When you look at him, it says, yes, they should
- 4:06compete for this championship this year. You look at the history of Mario Cristobal
- 4:10and Miami over the last several years. That's where what gets in the way.
- 4:14Where are you at way too early with Miami. I think Miami belongs
- 4:17in that top tier in the ACC as well, Jacob, because we mentioned
- 4:21Florida State, we just talked about Clemson. That next team for me,
- 4:24the early look at the power ratings is going to be Miami again the ACC.
- 4:29If I'm if I'm the athletics director at either at any of those three
- 4:31institutions of the ACC, my expectation is that we are going to be in
- 4:35the top three in the conference football standings year in and year out. There's
- 4:40there's really not a lot of excuses to be made for those three programs with
- 4:44their recent and historical success and the resources that they have now. Granted,
- 4:48some have more than others, but those three programs in particular are positions such
- 4:54that I would expect, if I'm an administrator of those universities, that we're
- 4:58going to be competing for the ACC championship year in and year out. In
- 5:00football, You're right, it has not gone to plan at Miami here in
- 5:03recent years. They've been better in recent years. Twenty twenty three they were
- 5:09better than they were in twenty twenty two, of course, a really down
- 5:12year where they finished number seventy in my power rating, a shockingly bad year.
- 5:16But even going back before that, you know, number thirty three,
- 5:18back in twenty twenty one, number eighteen, and twenty twenty, but they
- 5:20haven't finished higher than number eighteen of my power rating since twenty sixteen. I'm
- 5:26not suggesting that this Miami team is going to come into the year in the
- 5:29top twenty, but they could certainly have a team that rounds into form and
- 5:31maybe finds themselves in that fifteen to twenty rage come the end of the year.
- 5:35So it's possible that we could be looking at the best Miami team if
- 5:40everything goes to plan. Since maybe twenty sixteen, Bruce Felman has Lance Leopold
- 5:46on his list at number three. I tend to disagree with that. I
- 5:48mean, I know that his resume is extremely stellar. You look at what
- 5:51he did, you know, back prior to Kansas, when he was at
- 5:55Buffalo and then of course at Wisconsin Whitewater. Unbelievable, you know, resume
- 6:00there. But when I'm gonna take this past lance leopoldough I've said this,
- 6:03I want your thoughts on this. The Big Twelve as it sets, the
- 6:06new Big Twelve could be I think the funnest league to watch because there's no
- 6:12Texas, there's no Oklahoma. They're gonna be in the SEC. Yes,
- 6:15Utah comes over Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State. But you know when you
- 6:18kind of look at Utah, Central Florida. Now they're gonna have kJ Jefferson
- 6:21and they worked at Transfer Portal pretty hard. TCU, Colorado, Texas Tech,
- 6:26Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State. This could be a wide open
- 6:30Big Twelve championship run. Wide open is the exact phrase I would use to
- 6:35describe, not agree more. I personally again a lot of work to be
- 6:40done for the twenty twenty four preseason k Ford ratings. I personally think that
- 6:45right now I'm probably leaning towards Utah as maybe the best power rated team in
- 6:49the new look Big twelves. Of course, they're making their their transition from
- 6:51the pack twelve. Kansas State is up there Arizona. I know they lost
- 6:56Jetfish. I know he's up at Washington now, but what he had started
- 6:59building there in Tucson, Arizona's a team to watch. Don't count out Mike
- 7:02Gundhy in Oklahoma State, they always seem to be in the mix. I'm
- 7:04a big Matt Campbell fan at Iowa State, and they seem to be a
- 7:09team that over a cheese relative to the level at which they recruit. It's
- 7:14wide open. I didn't even get the CCU. Who's in the National Championship
- 7:16game just two years ago. Kansas Lfehold, as you mentioned, has done
- 7:19a complete turnaround. The best two year stretch we've seen at Kansas since two
- 7:24thousand and seven, two thousand and eight. It's a wide open conference.
- 7:28There's no historical traditional blue blood of college football remaining with the departures of Texas
- 7:34and Oklahoma. Somebody or somebodies is going to take this new look conference by
- 7:41the neck and say this is now ours. We now run the Big Twelve,
- 7:45and you could go one of maybe half a dozen ways with who that's
- 7:47going to be. I am very excited to see what the Big Twelve produces
- 7:51this year, Jake, in terms of CFP, because I know that's always
- 7:55the follow up is, well, Kelly, if they have all of these
- 7:58contenders, what does that do for their SEATP chances? We could be in
- 8:01a scenario where, like we used to talk about the Pac twelves, they
- 8:03all beat each other up in the regular season. They got some good teams
- 8:07but didn't really get the opportunity in the playoff except for on a handful of
- 8:11occasions to have a team in the CFP. Well, now with the expanded
- 8:13CFP, the Big Twelve will be representative, of course, but it is
- 8:18possible that you're gonna see you know, four, five six teams from either
- 8:22or the Big Ten the SEC. It's possible we get into years where you've
- 8:26got one, maybe only two teams from the Big Twelve, if there is
- 8:30that much parody, and they all knock each other up and beat each other
- 8:33up throughout the regular season,