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Chuck & GameTime Crew Talk Thunder Game 4 Win vs. Pacers to Tie the Series _ 2025 NBA Finals · Bleacher Report

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  Speaker 1: The Thunder have tied up the twenty twenty five NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 2: At two games apiece.
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  Speaker 1: As we walk in yet to game time live at
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  Speaker 1: the Finals presented by State Farm, with the Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Famer Charles Barkley, three time WNBA Champion, Kennis Parker, Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famer Grand Hill, I'm Jared Greenberg, many guests including
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  Speaker 1: Shake Gildes, Alexander right here live on set. We'll hear
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  Speaker 1: from the coaches and players at the podium. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: with your thoughts here. We all kind of agreed before
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  Speaker 1: the game the winner of this Game four would go
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  Speaker 1: on to win the title. What did you see that
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  Speaker 1: was different down the stretch, Charles in the fourth.
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  Speaker 3: Quarter, Well, I thought that the big winner the night
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  Speaker 3: was Caruso. I thought he was a difference in the game.
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  Speaker 3: I know Shay's gonna get a lot of love and
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  Speaker 3: he deserves it. Well, we were wondering who were going
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  Speaker 3: to join the party. Kendis give us some blops. She said, matthin,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he can play like that again, And
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  Speaker 3: he did not play like that again. McConnell didn't get
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  Speaker 3: all those steals. We wondered who was up on Okca's
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  Speaker 3: Ben's gonna step up a lot of love. Jalen Williams
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  Speaker 3: played well, Ay Shade. Did you know we talk about
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  Speaker 3: all the time your star is supposed to be your closer,
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  Speaker 3: not your starter. And to the middle of the game
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  Speaker 3: at Big three he hit and the travel he got
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  Speaker 3: away with. Those were the two biggest players game. But
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  Speaker 3: I thought the player of the game was Caruso.
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  Speaker 4: You know, going into the fourth it seemed like it
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  Speaker 4: was the Pacers ball game, right, And I feel like
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  Speaker 4: in moments like this it comes down to crucial plays.
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  Speaker 4: There were huge missed free throws down the stretch. You
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  Speaker 4: talk about back to back free throws by Obi Toppin,
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  Speaker 4: you talk about live ball turnovers at the top of
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  Speaker 4: the key with Tyrese Halliburton. So I think momentum shifted
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  Speaker 4: in that fourth quarter. The ball was in SGA's hands
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  Speaker 4: because he was you know, he didn't have to bring
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  Speaker 4: it up all games.
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  Speaker 2: So let's give it to j Dubb.
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  Speaker 4: J Dubb got them there, Caruso kept them there, and
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  Speaker 4: SGA took them home.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Matherin missed those three consecutive free
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  Speaker 1: throws as well.
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  Speaker 5: But it comes down to end the game situations. And
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  Speaker 5: you know, Okac did everything right, particularly in the defensive end.
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  Speaker 5: There were three or four possessions defensively as they were
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  Speaker 5: making their run and gaining momentum where Indiana got nothing.
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  Speaker 5: And this is a team that's a high powered offense,
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  Speaker 5: a team that has executed well throughout the postseason in
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  Speaker 5: close games. Indiana was rattled. They were confused, they were
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  Speaker 5: out of sorts. So the defense of Okac with Stella
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  Speaker 5: and of course he just said, Sga down the strap.
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  Speaker 5: I thought Nie Smith fouling out yep, it really hurt
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  Speaker 5: them and Matherin had to play miss those free throws.
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  Speaker 5: They also had two really bad fouls and anyway, just
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  Speaker 5: pour into game situation disappointing for Indiana, and I worry.
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  Speaker 5: We talked about who wins Game four is going to
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  Speaker 5: probably or maybe win this thing. How does Indiana emotionally
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  Speaker 5: recovery not from a loss like this where you had
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  Speaker 5: the game one and you.
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  Speaker 3: Gave it away and number one they gave it away,
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  Speaker 3: And I thought you started different between a all star
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  Speaker 3: guys and really good players on a superstar. Shaye bought
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  Speaker 3: this thing home. They're like, yo, big fellow, bring us home.
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  Speaker 3: And I have no idea what the pacer doing on
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  Speaker 3: the offensive end. Me and Grant were going crazy, like, yo, man,
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  Speaker 3: get a ball to Siakam. He's your best one on
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  Speaker 3: one player. They didn't Eve run a play them. They
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  Speaker 3: had other guys trying to make plays. I'm like, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: get his ball to Siakam. You know, ok C like, hey, Shaye,
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  Speaker 3: bring us home. But it was so frustrating because Grant,
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  Speaker 3: we can say all we want to about Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 3: The Pacers blew this game.
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  Speaker 5: Well you said it best of aballak Siakam was still
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  Speaker 5: the leading scorer, and I don't think it took a
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  Speaker 5: shot in the last seven eight minutes of the game.
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  Speaker 2: He took one shot in the entire fourth quarter. It's
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  Speaker 2: o for one.
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  Speaker 6: But listen, man, he.
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  Speaker 4: Was hanging out in the corner a lot of time
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  Speaker 4: do that.
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  Speaker 3: But let me tell you some man, this is is
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  Speaker 3: gonna hurt This game gonna hurt the patients because they
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  Speaker 3: had this game under control. They were playing well. Uh
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  Speaker 3: that okay. Se was kind of like, okay, we might
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  Speaker 3: be in trouble and then all of a sudden they let.
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  Speaker 6: Him get close.
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  Speaker 4: Chuck, do you know what Big mo is Hey momentum
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  Speaker 4: is a real thing in the playoffs, and I'm telling
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  Speaker 4: you lose a game like this in front of your
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  Speaker 4: home crowd up ten going into the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: But that's why, that's why, that's why I felt like,
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  Speaker 3: whoever won this game the name is gonna win the series.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're gonna go home, and you know, okay, see,
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  Speaker 3: it's a very difficult place to play. They gonna ride
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  Speaker 3: that energy. Uh, they gotta get some more help.
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  Speaker 6: Though.
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  Speaker 3: I will give coach credit though he actually played everybody, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: and he guys in the first quarter, But I have
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  Speaker 3: no idea why he was showing his rotation. Hey, and
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about the elephant in the room, Shaq. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's catching strays. He's off already on vacation, he's not
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  Speaker 3: here what He's still a big elephant. But the lineup change,
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  Speaker 3: that was the team, even though when they were losing,
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  Speaker 3: I said, that's the team I saw all year that
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  Speaker 3: I thought would win the title. They played, they started
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  Speaker 3: the two big guys, he played everybody on the bench.
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  Speaker 3: You're the coach credit for saying I was wrong. It's
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  Speaker 3: so hard for coaches because you know, they don't want
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  Speaker 3: to admit they're wrong. He was wrong for chasing that
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  Speaker 3: starting lineup. But now they got their momentum back and
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough on the Pacers.
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  Speaker 4: And they didn't play well, that's the thing. They hung
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  Speaker 4: their hat on their defense in the fourth quarter, only
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  Speaker 4: giving up seventeen points. But if you look down the line,
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  Speaker 4: OKC shot three of seventeen from three point line, and
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  Speaker 4: this is point blake, wide open catch and shoot threes.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you look at Wiggins didn't play well, look
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  Speaker 4: at Wallace didn't really knock down the three. Well, so
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  Speaker 4: those are the role players that are going home and
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  Speaker 4: are gonna feel pretty good going home because.
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  Speaker 3: They got a way. They got away, because.
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  Speaker 6: Man, it looked gloomed for those guys. It looked gloomy
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  Speaker 6: when they were down ten.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, oh, well, especially you said in this
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  Speaker 5: day and era, this day and age with the three
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  Speaker 5: point shooting, only make three point three three pointers is
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  Speaker 5: one thing. But then I just thought Shay was gritty.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he had officially twelve of twenty four, but
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't an easy twelve field goals. I mean, they
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  Speaker 5: harassed him, they were physical with him. I thought he
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  Speaker 5: was tired there late in the third quarter, played the
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  Speaker 5: whole third quarter and beginning of the fourth.
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  Speaker 6: So he just found a way down the strat.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what great players, that's what Chuck said, superstar
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  Speaker 5: players do, just find a way on the road to
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  Speaker 5: carry your team and hit those two big shots down
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  Speaker 5: the stretch, including this one right here.
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  Speaker 1: Remember he was held to just twenty four points in
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  Speaker 1: Game three and he committed six turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly had a bounce back. Listen, Charles.
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  Speaker 1: Not only the elephant in the room being the change
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  Speaker 1: in the starting lineup, they made a noticeable change in
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  Speaker 1: the rotation right from the get go Shake Gilders. Alexander
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  Speaker 1: usually plays candas the entire first quarter.
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  Speaker 2: He did not.
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  Speaker 1: He came out about halfway through and then came back in,
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  Speaker 1: and then he played to start the second quarter when
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  Speaker 1: he's usually on the bench, and Halliburton was on the bench,
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  Speaker 1: so they played SGA three less minutes in the first
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  Speaker 1: half to kind of save him for later in the gate.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is chess, not checkers, and I have to
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  Speaker 4: give it up to coach Dagnall, like this is a
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  Speaker 4: time where you hang your hat on what you've been doing,
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  Speaker 4: your identity of who you are with minor tweaks yep
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  Speaker 4: and SGA having only one day off in between the games.
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  Speaker 4: This is different than the other games as well as
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  Speaker 4: playing forty two minutes then you mix it up. I
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  Speaker 4: think they did a great job of conserving his energy
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  Speaker 4: by having j Dub bring the ball up and and
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  Speaker 4: Caruso bring the ball up, getting him off ball, so
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  Speaker 4: he wasn't having to battle that physicality the whole game,
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  Speaker 4: and then he was able to take you home. But listen,
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  Speaker 4: everyone talks about how calm, cool and collected SGA is
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes people use that against him. I'll tell you,
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  Speaker 4: I think that this team, the reason why they were
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  Speaker 4: able to come out on top in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 4: is because of that mentality. They stayed with it, They
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  Speaker 4: stayed true to who their identity was, and they trusted
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  Speaker 4: their MVP.
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  Speaker 1: They're now six to oh the Thunder after losses this postseason,
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  Speaker 1: they've not lost back to back games. Obviously, we're again
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  Speaker 1: gonna have some players and we'll hear from the coaches
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  Speaker 1: at the podium, but let's go through some of the
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  Speaker 1: top plays from this game here and show you how
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  Speaker 1: this one went down here in Indiana. With Indiana leading
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  Speaker 1: the series, entering this one two games to one. Pacers
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  Speaker 1: get off to a fast start here, Grant with Tyree
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  Speaker 1: Halliburton again being aggressive and.
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  Speaker 5: Being aggressive worked well for Tyree's coming out, setting the
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  Speaker 5: tone early for the Pacers and it paid off.
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  Speaker 1: Miles Turner with the footback. It was a five point
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  Speaker 1: lead for Indiana. Now Jay Dubb with the response, initiating
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  Speaker 1: the offense and scoring.
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  Speaker 6: Taky did that all night.
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  Speaker 4: He did.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, how about this feed Aaron Wiggins the lou Dort.
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  Speaker 6: That's good defense too, that's just better off.
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  Speaker 4: I was there only three until the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Pascal Siaka here, that's a good idea.
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  Speaker 6: How about going to that guy in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 6: when you got the lead.
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  Speaker 2: Siakam had twenty points.
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  Speaker 1: Caruso force with the turnover, and Caruso answers Charles call
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  Speaker 1: of who's gonna step up off the bench?
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  Speaker 6: He has twenty.
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  Speaker 4: Points, SGA. Don't take great greatness for Grant.
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  Speaker 1: Had first half points and no free throws in the
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  Speaker 1: first half of the game.
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  Speaker 6: And then Chuck. They were feeding Siakam that whole first half.
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  Speaker 6: They got going, and they got.
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  Speaker 3: Start, they got away from it, and just especially when
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  Speaker 3: you need it, if the Gayda offense is about Evan
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  Speaker 3: need the basket.
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  Speaker 1: I'm running to play with Seakam every time. Pacers led
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  Speaker 1: it sixty to fifty seven at the half. After that
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  Speaker 1: bucket there by Haliburton, he had eight points five.
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  Speaker 2: Assists over the first two quarters. Let's go to the
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  Speaker 2: third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: More of Siakam, back to straightaway, three connects. Then it's
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  Speaker 1: Halliburton to nemhard and the quarter three.
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  Speaker 2: Then this next stretch I thought was really important. Guys,
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  Speaker 2: Obie Topping took over.
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  Speaker 6: He did.
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  Speaker 3: He had two back to back threes and you think, like, man,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta feel pretty good.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Then he had Then he had a block after the
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  Speaker 1: three on Jay Dubb. Tremendous ca of moments for Topping,
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  Speaker 1: and then Topping responds with this. After that block on
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  Speaker 1: the offensive end, they reward them granted.
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  Speaker 5: And right now you just start to worry, Okase, Indiana's
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  Speaker 5: getting that momentum.
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  Speaker 6: It didn't look good. It just jumps it.
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  Speaker 1: Remember up by ten, Indiana was and they're nine to
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  Speaker 1: one entering this game.
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  Speaker 2: In the clutch, there was.
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  Speaker 3: Two big offensive rebounds shot chev Houlngren that were huge.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, for the first time this series.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the double big lineup in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 1: for the Thunder and that.
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  Speaker 4: Contributed to the twenty three second chance points that the
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  Speaker 4: Thunder were able to do, and they dominated the paint.
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  Speaker 3: So you mean they asked have played the two big
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  Speaker 3: guys before rid Albert tried to change it. Though.
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  Speaker 1: Look at that right there offensive glass more second chance
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  Speaker 1: points as Ken just talked about. Here from SGA ties
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  Speaker 1: the game at ninety seven, so they've erased the double
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  Speaker 1: digit deaths in.
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  Speaker 3: But this is when their offense got all stagnant. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that was the only easy layup they got, but they
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  Speaker 3: were so stagnant down the stretch. But this three right here,
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  Speaker 3: that that was a huge SGA from downtown in this.
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  Speaker 6: Like I say, he lucky got away with a travel.
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  Speaker 1: SGA thirty five points, five thirty point games in his
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  Speaker 1: last six postseason contest.
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  Speaker 6: Oh man, that might have been an offensive fall too.
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  Speaker 6: One oh four.
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  Speaker 2: Oh call that a travel chuck.
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  Speaker 5: That's not a traveling. They don't call that.
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  Speaker 4: That's a gather.
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  Speaker 2: Your serious, that's a gather.
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  Speaker 6: Well, he traveled his luggage and traveled.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got a lot to talk about with Shay
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  Speaker 1: Gilders Alexander as he scored Okacs fifteen of their final
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  Speaker 1: sixteen points. SGA went eight for eight in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: We always talk about superstars in these moments. Obviously it
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  Speaker 1: would have put the Thunder on the brink of elimination
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  Speaker 1: had they lost this game tonight. So, Charles, what did
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  Speaker 1: you see from the regular season MVP tonight?
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  Speaker 3: The reason he won MVP like he closed tonight, and
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  Speaker 3: whether he's tired or he had a bad game last game,
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  Speaker 3: he made all the plays down the stretch and that's
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  Speaker 3: what guys are supposed to do because that three was huge,
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  Speaker 3: and then obviously he made the other basket after that.
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  Speaker 3: But man, the guy won MVP. He deserved it. But
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  Speaker 3: he was fabulous down the stretch. Like I said, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna give some flowers to Jalen Williams. Was fantastic. But
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  Speaker 3: to me, the difference in the game was Caruso. He
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  Speaker 3: kept them in the game with his defense and his energy.
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  Speaker 3: That to me was the difference. Well, I think you're
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  Speaker 3: right with SGA. Not only did he close well, I
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  Speaker 3: think he started the game well. He wasn't hunting his
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  Speaker 3: shot and I think at the end of the first
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  Speaker 3: quarter might have had four points. Others were getting involved
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Williams as well. So being able to sort of
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  Speaker 3: sort of read the game and save your best for
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  Speaker 3: the you know, for the fourth quarter when your team
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  Speaker 3: needed it the most. And you're right, I mean, Alice Caruco,
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  Speaker 3: you look at the numbers. He scored twenty points, but
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  Speaker 3: his energy deflection steals just the confidence and the toughness
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  Speaker 3: that he brings to the you know, it spread and
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  Speaker 3: his impact was huge, and you know.
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  Speaker 6: He was great.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think in these situations the margin for
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  Speaker 4: error is very small.
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  Speaker 2: You need those little plays.
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  Speaker 4: And I understand we're going to talk about Sga bring
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  Speaker 4: him home, but let's give some love to chet Holmgren.
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  Speaker 4: Can you look at him? A dominant fourteen points, fifteen rebounds,
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  Speaker 4: four offensive rebounds, and it was they were momentum killers.
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  Speaker 4: So his offensive rebound, the ball was off the glass,
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  Speaker 4: he went up got it. So, like I said, twenty
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  Speaker 4: three second chance points. The thunder doing a good job
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  Speaker 4: of dominating the paint. They didn't knock down the three tonight,
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  Speaker 4: but they had fifty paint points to the Pacers thirty six.
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  Speaker 5: And Candice, I'm glad you brought up home Gren because
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  Speaker 5: not only did he do a great job on offensive
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  Speaker 5: class and make some big plays, I thought that last
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  Speaker 5: three or four minutes when they switched, and now he's
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  Speaker 5: guarding smaller players. His perimeter defense, which I thought he
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  Speaker 5: struggled with with most of the.
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  Speaker 6: Game, and maybe his ankle.
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  Speaker 5: I know he sprained it and rolled it a couple times,
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  Speaker 5: but his defense on those possessions one on one with
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  Speaker 5: the smaller guards, not fouling, not allowing them to turn
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  Speaker 5: the corner. I thought that was an underrated point on
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  Speaker 5: his part. That really sealed it day. And he did
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  Speaker 5: it with a sprained ankle. Remember he turned his ankle too.
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  Speaker 5: Of those last few moments he came back and played
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  Speaker 5: and let's so let's go ahead and get it.
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  Speaker 2: Shouldn't they sprayed he turned his ankle.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get a coach his credit too. Like you know what, guys,
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  Speaker 3: I screwed up.
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  Speaker 6: I was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And that comes back to your point about points in
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  Speaker 3: the paint offensive rebounds because when they were playing that
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  Speaker 3: small lineup, check is playing against a bigger guy and
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  Speaker 3: he made him not getting there and so those offensive rebounds,
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  Speaker 3: but they give the coach a lot of credit. Man,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to admit you're wrong. And when he changed.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about it last last last time we were
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  Speaker 3: on the air. Do you I think you say you
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  Speaker 3: think they're gonna change your lineup? I says what they should,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know if they're going to because coaches
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  Speaker 3: never wont to admit they're wrong. I'm gonna get a
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  Speaker 3: coach's flowers. You know what, guys, I was wrong. Let's
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  Speaker 3: go back to the team we were and also to
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  Speaker 3: pick it back on some Grant said the last time
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  Speaker 3: we were here, got to play them dudes. Man, you
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  Speaker 3: got to play them dudes. Your advantage And what was
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  Speaker 3: the founder on the bench points?
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  Speaker 1: It was thirty six to twenty seven. Indiana still won
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  Speaker 1: their bench points a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot closer, a lot closer, and they didn't what the
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  Speaker 3: most interesting thing with Candis said, I don't even think
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: they played well yet.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, they didn't shoot the ball well at all.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: They well, I'm saying this was the first time I
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: saw the real OKC thunder when they were playing ten guys,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: eleven guys. They playing athletic guys everywhere, right, the big
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: big I mean, because man, if you think about it,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: when they put them to big dudes out there with
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Jalen Williams and shape, that's a big team. They should
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: dominate on rebounding in the paint. But good job by
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: coach for meant
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: He was wrong.