Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone Hour 3: JJ Jansen & Tom Luginbill

Transcript

Mac & Bone Hour 3: JJ Jansen & Tom Luginbill · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, owens Mac and Boe on your radio bass my
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: freeing man, posh, come on, posh, my freeing t Bone.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: What's up the fun?
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and
• 0:17
  Speaker 3: Bone do a.
• 0:18
  Speaker 4: Lot Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ, two hours
• 0:30
  Speaker 4: to go to get to the weekend. Who needs the weekend?
• 0:33
  Speaker 4: Do I sound like a man that needs the weekend? Oh? God,
• 0:39
  Speaker 4: Loan Pronto. I want to talk to loan Pronto specifically
• 0:42
  Speaker 4: right now. What a loyal client you are. What an
• 0:45
  Speaker 4: amazing resource you have been to me and missus Mac
• 0:47
  Speaker 4: as a homeowner. You make the process so easy to
• 0:51
  Speaker 4: refinance and save money. Loanpronto dot Com just wanted to
• 0:56
  Speaker 4: get that in there. Fitty thinking maybe I have to
• 0:57
  Speaker 4: smooth some things over. I was a little distracted at
• 1:00
  Speaker 4: the start of that live spot. Oh my goodness, text
• 1:06
  Speaker 4: says clean up on Aisles four, five, and six. This
• 1:09
  Speaker 4: dude said, I would say Mac needs a beer after
• 1:11
  Speaker 4: hearing that spot, but I think he had a few.
• 1:15
  Speaker 4: I wish, man, I wish magine what I sound like
• 1:17
  Speaker 4: though when I have been drinking. Y'all we should make
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: that a show on Friday nights on WFNZ the mac
• 1:22
  Speaker 4: ipa Hour, Oh get a local craft beer sponsor, and
• 1:26
  Speaker 4: just really, I really sound ridiculous, all right, y'all. So
• 1:29
  Speaker 4: we've got a fun hour coming up as long as
• 1:31
  Speaker 4: I can hold it together here, Bone Man is out,
• 1:33
  Speaker 4: and maybe maybe that's what it is. Maybe I just
• 1:35
  Speaker 4: need the steadiness of the Bone Man. The Fit Dog's
• 1:38
  Speaker 4: gonna done a great job too, holding it down as
• 1:41
  Speaker 4: producer and co host on this show. Bone enjoying a
• 1:44
  Speaker 4: trip to Nashville for the weekend. He'll be back Tuesday,
• 1:47
  Speaker 4: so you've got me and Fiddy on Monday, as well
• 1:49
  Speaker 4: as we recap the sports weekend. This hour includes ACC
• 1:53
  Speaker 4: Talk with a man that's covering it for ACC Network,
• 1:56
  Speaker 4: Tom Lugan Bill. He joins us coming up at A
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: twenty five, So that'll be fun catching up with Lug's.
• 2:02
  Speaker 4: But right now, though, man, it's an emotional moment, all right,
• 2:06
  Speaker 4: but it's an exciting moment. We got to say goodbye
• 2:08
  Speaker 4: to our weekly snapchats. It's kind of like sending your
• 2:12
  Speaker 4: kid off to summer camp. It really, it really is.
• 2:15
  Speaker 4: JJ Jansen and the Panthers report for training camp on Wednesday.
• 2:19
  Speaker 4: This is the final snapchats of the off season, although
• 2:23
  Speaker 4: I'm sure in like a week we'll be bothering JJ
• 2:25
  Speaker 4: at his place of work when we do shows from
• 2:26
  Speaker 4: training camp. But let's talk to JJ Janssen, the Panthers
• 2:31
  Speaker 4: iron man, America's long snapper. He joins us here on
• 2:34
  Speaker 4: the mac en Bone Show. JJ, Thanks for coming on, brother.
• 2:37
  Speaker 4: How you feeling, man?
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: I'm doing good in this analogy? Are you the parents
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: and I'm the kid? Because my experience is the kids
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: crying out the parent. That is true. I'm just trying
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: to complete the analogy. Who's crying for who?
• 2:52
  Speaker 5: That's a good point.
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: The dad and mom are high fiving when the kid
• 2:54
  Speaker 4: gets dropped off at summer camp.
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: I think the first someone camp you ever go to,
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: the kids excited and the parents are crying, and then
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: the second and after that, I think, I think it
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: begins to flip a little bit, and then and then
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: I think somewhere around high school time it flips completely
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: back again. So we're somewhere in that stage of maybe
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: everyone's tier or two.
• 3:16
  Speaker 5: I like that you broke that down. Do you speak
• 3:18
  Speaker 5: for experience on that? Absolutely? So how are you feeling, dude?
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 3:22
  Speaker 5: Are you I don't know some guys.
• 3:25
  Speaker 4: You know, some guys gets at a point where training
• 3:28
  Speaker 4: camp they can't stand like, but but you guys seem
• 3:31
  Speaker 4: to have a lot of fun with the long games.
• 3:33
  Speaker 4: It's like, are you like, are you fired up and
• 3:36
  Speaker 4: ready for camp or are you kind of like, oh,
• 3:38
  Speaker 4: another camp?
• 3:38
  Speaker 5: Like how do you view it?
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: No, I'm always excited to go to camp. I think
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: if we had this conversation in three weeks and everyone's
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: legs are heavy and tired, and maybe we're a little
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: underslept and all that stuff, and maybe we've had a
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: couple of fights at camp amongst amongst our own teammates,
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: at that point, I think everyone will be over camp.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: But I think everyone looks forward to it. We know
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: that it's a it's a long, hard toll and camp
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: that's never fun. But getting back with the guys, starting
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: to learn your playbooks again, getting in rhythm and sort
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: of dreaming at the possibilities of what your season is
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: going to be, I think is always a very exciting time.
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: And you know, we're together, not as much as when
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: we used to go down to Wall or down Spartanburg,
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: where you're together, you know, basically sixteen hours a day,
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: we're still together eleven or twelve hours a day, but
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: you know, the guys were playing cards and goofing off
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: and finding ways to shoot hoops and play ping pong
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: and do all this stuff, and that's where the bonding happened. Yeah,
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: once we get to the regular season, we're not together
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: for as long, and it's very focused on learning the opponent.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of extra learning. It's your own playbook,
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: but also the opponent. During training camp, you're really just
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: focused on yourself, so you also get a little bit
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: of the bonding that hopefully kind of begins to form,
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: like what your team's going to be for the season?
• 4:52
  Speaker 4: Does Canalis? And I think we've seen this on some
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: of like the Blueprint shows and stuff like that or
• 4:57
  Speaker 4: the Inside Training Camp whatever whatever that you know that
• 5:00
  Speaker 4: show is called from the Panthers. Does Canalis have like
• 5:04
  Speaker 4: an opening speech to y'all almost like a theme for
• 5:07
  Speaker 4: the season or like is it?
• 5:10
  Speaker 5: Does it? Does it go down that way at the
• 5:11
  Speaker 5: start a camp?
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, almost every coach I've
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: ever played for has some sort of opening speech, and
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: that may come like on day two or day three
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot also like a lot of logistics, right,
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: imagine like you're getting on you guys have been there forever,
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: but imagine you onboarding for a new job. I don't
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: know what that looks like either, but like, there's a
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: lot of logistics, there's paperwork, and you meet the doctors,
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: you meet the trainers, equipment staff because you know, there's
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: so many guys on the team that's never been to
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: a camp with us, so there's a lot of logistics.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: After all that's done, probably by either the end of
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: day one day two. Then then coach Canalis comes in
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: and says, hey, now, now that all that stuff's done,
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: all the all the all the paperwork, all the logistics,
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: let's get down to football. Here's where we're going in
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. And kind of the fun part about Canalysis,
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a self identified dreamer. I'm sure that'll
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: be in the speech. Hey, guys, I'm a dreamer. That's
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: kind of how he thinks and imagines. I'm sure you
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: guys have heard it too, Like he can really begin
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: to paint a picture for what the hopes are for
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: the season, and he's so positive and optimistic. It really
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: gets you fired up for the season. You know when
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: I played for Ron, you know, some of those speeches
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: were aggressive, and nobody believes. It's just a different mentality
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: and style and the team will always form in sort
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: of the image and lightness of their head coach. And
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: so he does a really good job of sort of
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: setting the course for what's ahead and keeping us very optimistic.
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: And I think it also keeps a lot of creativity
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: on the team. Hey, hey, we're imagining what could be.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: So go out there and start to learn more about
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: yourself and your teammates and see what we will take this.
• 6:49
  Speaker 5: That's cool, man.
• 6:49
  Speaker 4: I want to hear some of that when they put
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: out whatever documentary from training camp. I want to hear
• 6:55
  Speaker 4: what his message is. Also, as a fun game to
• 6:58
  Speaker 4: play as a Panther fan, to treat a guess what
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: the Mets like? Do you kind of think you said
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: he's going to talk about being a dreamer. Shouldn't the message?
• 7:05
  Speaker 4: Shouldn't the message like you coach, you coach youth sports
• 7:08
  Speaker 4: and stuff. Obviously we probably can't talk as long because
• 7:11
  Speaker 4: I start noticing when I give big speeches, all of
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: a sudden the kids start looking around.
• 7:16
  Speaker 5: Eventually I'm like, I'm rambling too.
• 7:18
  Speaker 6: Long.
• 7:19
  Speaker 4: They're not adults yet. They're getting older, but they're not.
• 7:21
  Speaker 4: Do you kind of have an idea.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: Adults don't want to listen that long either. Let me
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: assure you you don't don't want to listen. The message
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: is one of the things.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 7:28
  Speaker 4: I think the message has to be, doesn't it have
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: to be? What we did last year is great, but
• 7:33
  Speaker 4: we can do so much more. Is it something like that?
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: Do you think, well, you know, I think every coach
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: goes about it a little bit differently. Certainly that is
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: got to be a thing. Hey, look, we went to
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and we played a really really close playoff
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: game against probably what was really the best team in
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: the league, even though they didn't win the Super Bowl.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: But none of that matters. Like, we're starting all over.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: Every team's got a lot of changes. We bring most
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: of our team back, and yet we have a lot
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: of notable changes. You know. The thing. The thing about
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: it is, I think the message the message is we
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: are starting this climb all over again, and we've got
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: to learn who we are as the twenty twenty six Panthers. Again.
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: We've got a lot of the same core, but we're
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: adding a ton of important pieces, and we've got to
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: figure out how that all messes and works together. And
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: you know, actually, the really thing, the really thing, that
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: the thing that was really impressive about the way coach
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: Canalis has handled the first three seasons. He does not
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: talk a lot. He does not he does not go
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: on and on and on. It's a pretty short and
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: brief message. Again, even adults start tuning out when someone's
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: talking at them for for even minutes upon minutes, So
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: he keeps it pretty short, but again leaves it to
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: our imagination. What what can we become? Let's use these
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: next five weeks to really begin to explore what our
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: possibilities are. And what he means by that is everyone's
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: finding their best. Everybody, Hey, can you add something to
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: your game that you didn't previously have? Coaches find out
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: what players have in their bag that maybe we didn't
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: previously recognize. Let's explore to see how good we can get.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: And as a player, what that does is it frees
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: you up to not be so focused on making mistakes
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: but really trying to find ways to improve your game.
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: So every coach has a different message. You have to
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: have the right personality, but as his personality goes. It's
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: a lot more like optimistic and let's iplore what is possible.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
• 9:31
  Speaker 5: That's cool. I like that.
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: And you've got to be yourself right like some people,
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: some fans are like, man, I want more of a
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: hard ACA, but you gotta be yourself, no doubt about it.
• 9:39
  Speaker 5: JJ Jansen is with us.
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: They will report for training camp on Wednesday, and Panther
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: fans are pumped. We got to do some listener questions.
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: We got to do some ask JJ questions. So whether
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: they're you know, questions about JJ summer, or whether there's
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: their funniest things, or whether they're football questions, hit us up.
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: Seven oh four, five, seven oh nine, six ten. We
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: got to ask about this. This is from the bagel
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: guy that wants me to ask about what you said
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: about the Steelers. You've been hosting a lot of NFL
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: radio shows. The Steeler Depot posted a story that Panthers
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: long snapper JJ Jansen on NFL radio says we will
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: be uninteresting again and win nine or ten games.
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: Did you hear from some Steeler fans after that one, JJ.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: Well, the funny thing was I was doing I was
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: doing a show with old Panthers beat writer Jordan Rodrieg.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: She's out with the Athletic and the Rams. We talked
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: about all thirty two teams, and the only team that
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: apparently picked up on something that I said that was
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: bothered with the Steeler fans. So I have to laugh.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: We were doing for those that didn't see the show.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: We were doing tiers and they were all like gifts
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and at the bottom was a tier like
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Tier five, but it wasn't. It was just like uninteresting.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: And there was a bunch that we put like the
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Rounds and the Jets, and and I said the Steelers.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: I think I think Jordan had the Steelers in there too.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: Again nine and eight and uninteresting is, first of all,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: that's basically what they've been. So I didn't feel like
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: I was any sort of round groundbreaking or or saturing information.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: And most teams would prefer to be uninteresting. One of
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: the one of the categories was good team, they will
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: break your heart. I don't think you'd want to be
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: in that category. So I didn't actually even find it
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: to be the more offensive thing, but I did. But
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: I did get a few people say the only team
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: that seemed to be upset by what I said was
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: was the uh was the Steelers. I'm not trying to
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: start anything. I love Mike McCarthy, I played for him,
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: I played with Aaron Rodgers. I know a bunch of
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: guys over there. I just thought, hey, look that not
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: in eight not interesting is a pretty good, pretty good year.
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: But it's on I can only I can only imagine
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: that that will be played in the locker room during
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: Panther Steeler week.
• 11:55
  Speaker 5: Let's go out there this long start.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: I have a I'm believing sixteen weeks from now. I
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: think we played them at the end of the season.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: If my memory sir, that becomes the best Baltimore material.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: But if it does, we'll just we'll just have to
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: go and win. And you know, look, it'd be pretty
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: I think we playing like in week sixteen, so it'd
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: be pretty good if like we caused them to lose,
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: to like put their record at like eight and seven,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: and just like it's just sort of lining up. I
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see what happens. It is a long
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: way to go.
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: I would love it if they if they tried, if
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: McCarthy tried to get everybody.
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: Angry at the long snapper. I would love that one.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I legitimately admit no harm by it at all, but
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: that seemed to get picked.
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: Up on it this texture says. I don't know if
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: it applies now, but when JJ would go to Spartanburg,
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: where there guys that you knew, when you're hanging out
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: more with them, we're gonna be the funniest that We're
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: going to make camp fun. Who are some of the
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: funniest who the funniest camp dudes from your years?
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Well, on this team, one of the guys that does
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: that all the time is Nick Scott. He is as
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: funny as they come. It light and he oh yeah,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: he's really really smart. And usually the smart guys are
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: also the funny guys. And he keeps it light and
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: and he can hang out with really everybody on the
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: team and he can get as good as he can get.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: So he's a good one. Mike Tolbert was fantastic. The
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: toll Dozer was absolutely he had a great feel for
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: getting it light, especially kind of in the dog days down
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: there in Spartanburg. Everyone knows Gross and Khalil were among
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: the very best in terms of keeping it light. So
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: those are some of the ones that come to mind.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Certain position groups lend themselves more than others. Derek Anderson,
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Joe Webb, A couple of quarterbacks were always a hoot.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because the D line doesn't invite me
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: over all that much. The D line feels way more
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: serious during training camp. They're exhausted, they're frustrated and angry.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Linebackers just the same. So you kind of have to
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: lean into maybe the quarterbacks and the offensive lineman to
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: be your comedic humor, but comedic relief. But like Scott
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: for sure right now on our team is probably one
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: of one. There's a few other guys, but he's at
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: the top.
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: This is a good question from Lake Norman James about
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: now the camp's in Charlotte. Does anybody stay in a hotel?
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's young? Is it young guys in
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: a hotel?
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: How does that?
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Young guys?
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: How they do that?
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's some sort of cutoff. Trust to me,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I blew through the cutoff a decade and a half ago,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: but the cutoff usually around four or five years, and
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: I think a little bit of that is Ay, a
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: lot of the young guys, they don't have a place
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: to go, so they need a hotel right, like the first, second,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: maybe even third year guy. And then and then those
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: are the guys without families and without kids are the ones.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I've never been a big like curfew guy because my
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: feeling is in training camp, when you can't cost us
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: a game if you are, the whole point of the curfew,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: right is to keep you from going out and spending
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: late nights and drinking or whatever you know, whatever you
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: do at late at night. My point is I've always
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: SAWT on curfew. I get rid of curfew and training
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: ca because I want to know when there's no rules,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: which guys are going to hurt their own potential and
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: the teams when there's no consequences, so I wouldn't want
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: to hide them in the Yeah, yeah, basically exactly right.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: The irony, of course is there's a few there's a
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: few guys who are married with kids, but they just
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: happen to not be like to their fifth year and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I feel so bad for them, Like they go home
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: and kiss their wife and kids good night and then
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: drive all the way back to the team hotel. I
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: always feel like we need like special dispensation for those
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: guys like if if you've got multiple kids at home
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: in Charlotte, I feel like you should stay home.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: But although probably.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: Rare when they're young, I would love to skip some bedtimes.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: I get a lot to you. Those bedtimes got stressful.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: The problem the problem is usually is like ten thirty
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: or eleven, So you have to be home for bed time.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: It's not like you're missing all of that for bedtime
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: and then now you got to go get the reward
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: of sleep. Oh you gotta go back.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that does count up? All right.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Last we were I'll say this, we were joking in
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: the off season and in training camp. Nobody knows the
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: NFLPA rules on length of time and OTAs in training camp.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Then the wives and the children they are locking the rule.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: They know when Dad's supposed to be home and when.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: He's not, so they can't make up. Yeah, so they
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: can't get away with say it, I can't. Okay, good,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: last question the moms know. Last question is a great
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: one seven oh four number. Does JJ spend time JJ
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: and the specialists spend time in the off season coming
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: up with new lawn games and texting about it, or
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: do they show up and just kind of play?
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: Last year's long games during training camp.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely show up and pick up where you
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: left off and play last year's long games, and then
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: inevitably there's something new, and it's a little bit like
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: it's like I'm watching this all though the people woke
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: up the soccer, Like, now there's inevitably MESSI will have
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: some play on the weekend where he's trying to drip.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: We'll through someone, it'll bounce off of two people and
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: it'll right back to his foot and all of a sudden,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: here comes across and it's like, well, that was a
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: cool move, and then people will like try to recreate it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit like that in long games. All
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, the ball bounces a weird way and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: we're like, huh, what if we make the rule that
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you have to do that and you just sort of
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: start changing the game as something random happens. That's kind
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: of how it goes. But in training camp also, I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: have to laugh. In training camp, we get out there
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: pretty early to do all of our work. They usually
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: kick us off the field. They're done, they're done with us.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: So we've had less time for long games because we're
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: out there early and then they're like, just just go
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: in and go lift. We try to get stronger. So
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: unfortunately we've had less we've had less free time of late,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: but we're all getting stronger. So maybe that's actually better.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, maybe that's good. Maybe that's a better use of
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: your time. All right, brother, Well, hey man, we'll see
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: you over there training camp. We're looking forward to it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: This could be a special year, man, so it'll be fun.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Thanks for all the summer hits, and we'll talk to
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: you a little bit looking forward.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Joe Panthers, Hey, happy New Year.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Happy you're still doing that one? All right, brother, be
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: good man. There you go.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: That is j. J.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Janssen, long snapper for your Carolina Panthers. We go from
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: one football stud to the next. Tom Lougan Bill ESPN
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: ACC Network covering ACC Kickoff. What does he think about
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Clemson and State and all these teams we're talking about, My.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: Friend to the shout out to our next guest, who
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: is dubbed the early morning Hours when you get stuff done,
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: the Champions Hours.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if a twenty five still qualifies
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: as the Champions Hours, but I know this man as
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: he prepares to cover another day of ACC kickoff here
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: in Charlotte, the final day of ACC Kickoff. I know
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: he rose early and got it going in the champions hours.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: It is great to catch up with our guy from
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: ESPN A Network, Tom Lougan Bill, who joins us here
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: on the Mac and Bone Show, Lugs.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: What's happening man, how you feeling.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I'm doing good, guys. It's good to be back on
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: with you. Hope you've had a great week.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Bone is in Nashville, by the way, So you were
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: getting You're getting, You're getting me, You're getting Fitty the
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Bone Man. Bone Man's proud of himself because he drived
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: from one time zone to another time zone yesterday.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: So does that make you a champion?
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Luke's well, what an accomplishment. I mean, always smokes. I'm
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: so proud of the young lad.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: It doesn't take much for Bone to celebrate, all right,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: But he was happy.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: The low bar.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: It is kind of like my wife has for me
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: at the house, a very low bar to clear and
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: thank God for that. Lukes was watching you guys yesterday
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: on the ACC Network. I hurt a little bit of
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: your radio stuff as well, so and I know you're
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: hyped up about this like we are. The fact that
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: we're getting a talking season, it means the real stuff.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: We'll be here before we know it. One team that
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: was talk in real bowl this week, I guess wasn't
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the team. It was Dave Dorn. It was quarterback CJ. Bailey,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: it was NC State. They were real. They were talking
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: about championships and Dorrian, Hey, I'm tired of being second
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: and all this stuff. There's more meat on the bone
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: for this program. What do you make of the of
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: the confidence and the way they talked like that and
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: the way Dorn talked and do you believe that they
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: could be better than people.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Think this year?
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: So, first of all, I love the aggressive approach in
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: terms of their narrative, because usually they're not like that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Usually they're kind of sitting back, lying in the weeds.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: And yes, I want to believe it. The problem is
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: that every time you start to believe it or you
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: start to tout it, they find a way to come
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: up empty handed. And so I've been real hesitating. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: told Roddy Jones I college Football, Yeah Live yesterday or
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: two days ago, we were talking about it. Dude, you
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: jinxed them, You jinxed them don't say it, don't talk
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: about them, let them get you know, sit off into
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: the background and then emerge as the season starts. But
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: you're right, it's a different approach to me. Clearly, they've
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: got a significant quarterback advantage, right, I mean CJ. Bailey
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: is an absolute difference maker. But they've also got a
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: lot of new faces around him. I think they feel
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: like they've got the right new faces. They love their
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: new receiving corps. Even though they lost Hollywood some bothers.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Thet'll get Duke Scott back, Davion Gobbs comes over through
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: the portal. I think their run game is going to
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: be going to be good. How much better can they
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: get rushing the passer? On defense? I think that's the question,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: you know, under DJ Elliott on the defensive side of
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the football. But I like him, and the thing I
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: like most about them is their schedule outside of outside
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: of Virginia who. I don't know who they paid off
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: or what, but that is the scheduling. God sprinkled schedule
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: dust on Virginia for two years in a row, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: NC State got a little bit of that dust too.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: So the schedule plays out well, you know, and they
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: go into that first game against Virginia, and you know
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Virginia is going to figure out is it both Privula?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Is that Eli Holstein? I think it'll be Privula coming
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: over from his But they've got a I mean, you're
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: talking about a roster of Virginia that's been totally overhauled
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: for the second year in a row, and can they
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: find that magic? So when you go into an opener
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: like that and you have a known commodity in a
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: damage at quarterback, I think it gives you an edge.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Clemson's another team obviously that we are talking about a
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: ton and I mean Dabbo. Dabo has talked so much
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: this offseason, and I give him credit, Lukes. He's been
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: very accountable about last year. He says is on me,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: he wasn't good enough. But he also I love when
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: he goes into reading off his resume mode just to
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: kind of remind him, hold on, do you remember I
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: did all these things? What's your gut feeling about this
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Clemson team? Will they be better than last year? And
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: if so, how much better?
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: So my gut feeling is that the best thing that
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: is happening to them right now is that nobody's talking
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: about yeah. I mean, think about it, over the last
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: eighteen years, how many times have we had a preseason
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: where they're not the focal point of not just the league,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: but college football. I mean, it's unbelievable. So I like
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: where they're at, lying in the weeds while everybody's discussing
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: everybody else, They're kind of doing their own thing. I
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: think that's maybe a positive reset for them. The whole
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: thing is going to come down to whether they made
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: the right choice at the quarterback position, because when you
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: start having those discussions about do we or do we
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: not go into the portal, you don't have those discussions lightly.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: And you're sitting down with a new offensive coordinator and
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Chad Morris, and you got to feel and I've talked
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: to a lot of coaches man that did not feel
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: like this was a great portal class at quarterback. Nobody
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: was overly excited about anybody. And so the small sample
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: size you got at Christmas in a and the true
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: freshman and Tate Reynolds coming in, they had to be
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: absolutely convinced that they had better options in house and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: didn't need to go out and spend or overspend in
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: the transfer portal. So We're going to find out if
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that's true. I mean that at the end of the day,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: because their offensive weapons are terrific. Chris Johnson Junior comes
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: over from SMU. He's an electrifying weapon on offense and
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: as a return man. Now they're going to have to
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: replenish some bodies obviously in the offensive and defensive line,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: but hell, who isn't and so But I love their
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: linebacking core. I think their secondary is going to be
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: just fine. We'll see what happens. I just think they're
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: in a healthier spot with the pressure off them a
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: little bit to kind of regroup, get back to the
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: drawing board and figure out a solution. I do think
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: they'll be better than they were a year ago.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Tom Lougan Bill ESPNACC Network covering ACC kickoff this week
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: final Day to Day, talking with us here on the
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Mac and Bone Show how to Text or Send a
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: question in this week, it says, Mac, you and Bone
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: been hyping up Miami so much as if we're the
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: only ones. Lukes, by the way, no one else talking
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: about Miami at all, he says.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: He says, would you bet are they?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Are you so convinced they're winning the conference, you would
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: take them over the field in the ACC? I think
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: wouldn't most people take them over the field? Or am
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I crazy? What do you think about that question?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I think on paper, have to right now, and you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: if you're going to sit there and you're a look
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: at concerns in relationship to Miami. I don't think they
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: are talent related. I don't think they are depth related.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I don't think their experience related. The biggest concern is
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: have you spent all off season reading your press clippings?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Have you been listening to the accolades, accepting the paths
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: on the back, you know that stuff. It's psychological, but
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: it matters and it happens. And you know, remember when
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: mac Brown had that great initial season with Sam Howe
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: and all of these expectations. They thought they were going
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: to just rip through the next year, and they stunk.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I think they went three to nine or something. I mean,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: it was unbelievable. And so that's where I get worried
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: about with Miami. I think they're going to be upgraded
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: at quarterback with Darian Menza coming over, the offensive weapons,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the running back Mark Fletcher, defensive secondary, and the linebacking corps.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Very strong. Obviously, you've got to replace a keem Mezadorn
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: and Ruben Baine on defense. But what Miami's done is
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: good a job, if not better than anybody in college
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: football will last two to three years. Is they have
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: been able to develop and retain their high school prospects
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: and get them engaged early as their foundation of their roster,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and then sprinkle in experienced, older transfer portal players to
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: supplement it and that blend. You know, they're not too
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: transfer portal heavy, They're not too young and inexperienced heavy.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: They kind of have that right mix right there in
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the middle.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Lukes, I would love for my Tar Heel fan friends
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: that listen. I would love for them to get it going,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: for Belichick and company to get it going. And I
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: do love Bobby Petrino coming in. But I'm reading the
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Phil Steel magazine and there they are. I'm looking at
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: toughest schedules thirteen toughest schedule in the country, hardest schedule
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: in the ACC.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: They had a cake one last year and won four games.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, is it like, can they handle that schedule
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: and have a better record than last year or no?
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: What do you think? Well?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of that's going to depend on
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: whether or not they get the quarterback position right this
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: time around, whether that's Billy Edwards, whether that's Texas A
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: and M transfer Miles zone deal, or even the freshman
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Travis Burgess, who I know Bobby Petrino does not want
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: to play with the freshman. You Right, the schedule is different,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and while I think they're probably going to be improved,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: are they going to be improved enough? Because you're talking
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: about having to get into the fourth quarter and get
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: into one score matchups with a lot of the teams
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: on that schedule that they're not as talented as. So
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I think that's you know, a pretty tall order. The
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: thing that's interesting, nobody really wanted to acknowledge it, but
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: down the stretch, when you consider how abysmal they were
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: on offense, a defense actually held up good, played really good.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I mean think about it. They were zero to eight
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: when the defense gave up fifteen points to more. Well,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: what does that tell you about your offense?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: So they you know, I think if they can get
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: any help from the offensive side of the football, they're gone.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, now, listen, there's a lot of new faces
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: on defense, don't get me wrong. Most of their best
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: players went off to somewhere else in the transfer portal.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: But the interesting note on offense is they when they
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: were in for one hundred and forty five yards or
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: more last year, they were three and zero five a
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Patrino at Arkansas last year. The only two teams they
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: didn't rush for one hundred and five forty five yards
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: of more against were Auburn and I want to say Missouri.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: So they're gonna they're gonna want to run the football.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: But can the quarterback make the plays in the passing
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: game and make them better?
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: It's a big question, no doubt about it. All right,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: So we have a Texter that's a nole stand so
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: let's let's humor this guy. He wants to know do
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: we get can we get eight wins this year? But
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: then he also asked, or will Norvell be fired by
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: by week five? What's your projection for Florida State?
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. I think their offensive skill, the
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: running back position, the tight end position, the two receivers,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: and Micah Dancy and Deuce Robinson are really really good.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: But until you figure out the solution at quarterback and
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: in the offensive line, They're gonna have five new starters
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: in the offensive line, all out of the transfer portal,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: no developed guys that they brought in, all somebody else's guys.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: And then Ashton Daniels. You know, he might be an
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: upgrade over Tommy Cascellanas, certainly an upgrade over dj Uianola.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: But how much of an upgrade is he is he?
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Is he a guy that won't screw it up? Or
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: is he a guy that can win games for you?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: It's an absolute difference maker. I don't know if I
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: believe he's a difference maker now. Defensively, they showed some
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: promise last year, and they made some strides under Tony White.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I think in year two they'll get better in that regard.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: But man, the schedule that you know, back to back
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: weeks with SMU in Alabama. The schedules not overly forgiving,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: and hey, listen, the heat is on in Tallahassee. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Mike Norvel knows that it's just been frustrated to watch
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: them because if they are the example in college football
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: that when you make the right choices in the transfer portal,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: you look like a genius. When you make the wrong
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: ones right, you're an absolute idiot. And that's just the
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: perception that comes. That's the perception that comes because people,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: for they don't realize that that twenty twenty three team,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: every star on that team, including the quarterback, was a transfer,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: every one of them. The receivers, the tight end, the
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: running back to the quarterback, Bradon TIFs, the defensive end. The
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: defense event on the other side is playing for the
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Rams right now. All of those guys are transfers. And
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: then they went what two consecutive cycles and we'll see
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: if it's three where they made all the wrong decisions
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: in the portal. Then we saw the results on.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: The variance there was crazy. Same people evaluating that was
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: that was crazy. Man, it's not. But it's not an
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: exact science. You evaluate for a living, right you evaluate
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: these recruits. Yeah, I guess it's tough.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: It's tough.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I guess you can't do it right every time. I'll
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: just say this, though, if you evaluated my one year
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: of pee wee football tape, I will say this that you,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: without certainty would say that that guy is not a player.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I know that you would not mess up that about it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: I was the guy that played basketball my whole life.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Tried football one year to play with my friends and
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: asked my dad Lukes if I could quit by week
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: five and told it said and it said, hell no, Hell,
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: you guys are crazy playing that sport.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Bro, crazy, I love but it was a good dab.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: But didn't let you quit.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: No, taught me a lesson, Mann, But uh, I love
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: watching y'all. But man, that support is for me to watch,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: you know, except great to watch brother. Although you play quarterbacks.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like you were into trenches though, but you
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: had to take a hit though, you know exactly.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I depended on those trenches.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't want to act like you're like you're
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: not a tough guy. All right, brother, Hey, it's good
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: to talk to you.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Hope to talk to you a couple of times once
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: things get going. Great seeing you on TV yesterday. To
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: keep up the.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Good work, brother, All right, we'll do thanks man.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: There you go, Tom Lougan Bell watch him and everybody
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: on ACC network for the coverage. We've got coverage here today,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: right Wes and Walker p Man in the afternoon, Gonna
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: be over there at ACC kickoff. Fiddy, give us a
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: real quick British open update because I realized we hadn't
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: done it in a minute here, let us know what's
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: going on over there at Royal Birkdale. Sir, it's all
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: right to be a little a little hometown or a
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: big old city. Might as well shared, might as well smile.
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: Moves on.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Wow, all right, Mac.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: Want to let you know this update is brought to
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: you by H and S Rufagain, Gutner Company. Don't for
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: a small problem to become a big one. Call H
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: and S Roof Again Gutter Company today. Fray for yestimate
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: seven zero four three three four nine nine three four.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: That is seven zero four three three four nine nine
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: three four seven zero four three three four nine to
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: nine three four. I'm pulling up the leaderboard right now.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Lucas Herbert has emerged as the leader. He is nine
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: under through sixteen. Jackson's Super is in second place. He
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: is six hunder Colin morit Cowa he is in third
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: place at five under our guy Bud Cawley is four
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: under through sixteen. Patrick Reid four under, Cameron Youngung is
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: for under, Francesco Willonari is three under, and Bryson.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: De Shambo three under.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: He'll tee off a little after ten o'clock, So will
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Scotti Scheffler.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: He'll tee off Lotter tenn same group.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Once again as well today. So got some unfamiliar names
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: that are at the top of the leader board. But
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: the big boys, the heavy hitters teaming up on an
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: hour and a half or something spect them to make
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: a run.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: On day two at the Open Championship.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Told the big news is Rory actually made a three
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: foot put today.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: It was amazing.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: He missed like three of those yesterday. It was wild.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: All right, we're going to take a breather. Here we
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: come back, y'all. We gotta do sounds of the acc
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Dabo addressed the haters. You had James Franklin wait to
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: hear what he declared, and we got to talk about
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: the celebrity who is playing a college football twenty seven
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: dynasty with the Tar Heels. It's not going well. Fitny's
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Dynasty's better than miss with the Heels. Sports Radio ninety
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: two to seven WFNZ Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: mackin bone with you.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: I think it needs to be stated.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Piggybacking off of Fitties update where he gave the British
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Open leaderboard I think it needs to be stated. Lucas
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Herbert not only is the leader Day two at Royal
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Birkdale at nine under by three shots right now, although
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: he is in a little trouble right now on seventeen.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: He is nine under for today, nine under while playing seventeen.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: He putting good recovery shots. So he's got like a
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: ten footer, maybe a twelve footer to try to say
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: par there. He is flirting with the course record. The
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: course record is a sixty two to eight under par.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: He's nine under right now playing seven. Are you kidding me?
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: And he's the ninety seventh ranked golfer in the world.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: He's an aussee, he's ranked ninety seven in the world,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: and he's playing like this absolutely crazy man. All right anyway,
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: and d Shamba, guys, I'd like to see get in
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: this thing. To Shambo and Scheffler, they better bring it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: They better bring it when the at off shortly after
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: ten o'clock our time, because this dude is running right
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: now with it. All right, let's do some sounds of
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: college football. Sounds of the ACC, specifically Dabbo and James
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Franklin were definitely the stars yesterday of ACC kickoff today
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: here for us locally, well nationally, SMU is kind of
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: you know, will be a focus today. But North Carolina
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, does he bring Jordan with him? You know
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: what does he say? These will be the questions you have,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: WAYC and Douke. So got some interesting local teams today,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: but yesterday obviously I think Dabbo Jeff Brom too, but
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Dabbo and Franklin probably the two biggest names Dabo, but
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: wanted to make sure he acknowledged he knows what the
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: haters have been saying this year.
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: Ain't none of y'all gonna pick us. Ain't none of
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: y'all gonna say anything good about us?
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It would?
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: You know, I'm I'm I've been dead, I'm gone. I
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: think I'm still here, all right. But it's not about
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: that either. It never has been. If it was about
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: what people predicted, I'd have been gone a long time ago.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: It's about what you do, That's what it's about. And
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: you know, we didn't do the football stuff well enough
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: last year. And you know, we got everything we need.
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: We don't have to make any excuses, and so we're
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: gonna get what we earned this year. And so that's
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: what we're focused on, doing what it takes to earn
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: the results that we want. And so, uh, these guys
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: have been, you know, working toward that. But you know
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: it's it's it's not about what we say, and it's
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: you know, haters hate, right. Uh they said there's a
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: bunch of hate. I don't know who wrote that song,
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: but you know the one thing about haters, when you
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: win it it don't matter what they say, and when
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: you lose, it don't matter.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: What you say.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Very interesting, So what song do we think he was
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: talking about? Was he talking about Taylor Swift? I know
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: there's a bunch of songs about hate and haters, but
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: was he talking about shaking off Hater's gonna hate hate
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: hate hate hate players Gonna play Play, Play, play play.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite Teyte songs right there?
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Is that what he or you think he was talking about?
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Another one? What in Dabo's world? What song is he
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: thinking about?
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: That was the song that first popped into my mind.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: But I don't picture Dabbo being up to stuff on
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Taylor Swift's.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: So what music is he up on? Maybe country? Is
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: there a country song about the haters? I can't imagine.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine. That's a big theme of country music.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Mack I always thinking about his beer, trucks and kissing
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: your cousin, Oh my god, and no particular.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Word losing your woman right, your woman, leaving you, your dog,
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: running away, or getting hit by a truck.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know are these things that are in country music?
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: I just gave you the catalog.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Why'd you change? I was just seeing if I could
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: throw a couple of more in there and away. Anybody
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: know what song Dabo? What song could Dabbo be aware of?
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: About haters? Panther Bo says, Dabo stick is so exhausting.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: This dude says, does anybody think Dabo's funny anymore?
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: It's played out? It's one thing when you're Saban's peer.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I'm still amused by him, but I will say this,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: He's done a lot of talking this offseason. It's time
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: for football and it's time for him to show that
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: we're going to bounce back. That last year was the
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: aberration he is claiming it is. James Franklin also made
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: some headlines with one of his comments yesterday at Media Day.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Listen to the proclamation the new Virginia Tech head coach made.
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: We've been able to hit the ground running. We are bigger,
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: we are stronger, we are faster than we have been.
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: There's no doubt about that, and I think our depth
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: is in a position to be able to compete. So
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: from an expectation, from a standards, from a culture standpoint,
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: I think we're in a really good place. Again, we
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: feel like we have won the off season. All that's great.
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: That sounds good in a press conference, it's a great SoundBite.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: The reality is, we got to make sure all.
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: Those things translate to the season and go out and
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: play a style and a brand that is going to
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: make coach Beemer proud.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: So we won the off season, fitty, what exactly does
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: First of all, I'm glad he backed that up with saying,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: now we got to get on the field and now
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: we got to back it up because winning the offseason
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: means squad douche. I mean seriously, like that was weird
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: to me that he proclaims we won. And what does
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: he mean by that is he's talking like nationally we
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: were the winners.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: Of the off season. Just in the ACC.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't expect to hear any coach proclaim we won
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: the off season, because again, that doesn't even matter ultimately
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: if you don't do it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: I hope he meant just within the conference, because they've
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: been the school maybe outside of Miami, and we've talked
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: about the most and just because of what we think
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: James Franklo can do at Virginia techatary he did accomplish
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: at Vanderbilt, what he did accomplish at Penn State, he
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: had them in the final four just two years ago.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Combined with the influx of money that's just been committed
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: to to football, Like you can tell that Virginia Tech
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: is putting their money where their mouth is and and
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: and and that and in that day and then this
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: day and age mac that gives you a chance, Like
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: if you've got the financial commitment, that's the first that's
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: just as big as the recruiting. That's just as big
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: as your coaching. Yeah, let's they had an amazing offseason.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: If you're a hockey fan, you're probably sitting there saying, dude,
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: I do feel like we won the off season. This
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: is the most excited they've been since the last time
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: they won the ACC titles.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: And ages because what they added coach like James Franklin
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: and like you said the money piece. Not to mention,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: they were top five in the ACC and transfer class
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: and high school recruiting class, so it was an interesting
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: proclamation to make. But yeah, when you break it down,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: they had a hell of a damn off season. Uh,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: let's see what some of them in the text are.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I love this. We play these these serious football quotes,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: and we've got so many silly fun techts coming in
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: about him seven oh four, five, seven oh nine, six ten.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: If you want to weigh in here this, let's see
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: shag and Wagon says, how is it that he quotes
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: a song? All of us immediately think of Taylor Swift?
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: What does that say about us? This dude, says Mac.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: There's seven gazillion rap songs that talk about Hayten and haters,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: but you thought of Taylor Swift.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Lame. I don't know, I don't probably don't know. The
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: rap songs don't.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Unless you go back to like the eighties, you go
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: back to the Little Fat Boys or Little Houdini or
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Little Run dmc baby. All of a sudden, to mac
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: mahon was a hip hop machine. But I can't do
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: anything right now. Unless I go ask Walker Mail for
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: the answers to the test. Uh, let's see this is
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: this dude says it's not a stick when you do
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: this for over ten years.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Now, that's who Dabbo it is who.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's Yeah, that's who he is, for
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: better or worse right. Some people love him, some people
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: hate him. He's fun man. He creates conversation. I'll give
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: him that. Yeah, you know, he definitely don't. People are
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: asking who the celebrity is that is playing a Dynasty
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: with the Heels. So it's Big Cat from Barstool. He
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: has this alter ego, right Coach Dougs his coaching persona
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: when he does a Dynasty on the college football video game.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: So he is playing with the Heels and in game
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: two of his season, he lost to Akron and it
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: was hilarious to watch it happen and watch him react
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: to this happening. Fitty, Please tell me, Fitty, you do
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: not have any losses like that on your Heels dynasty
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: resume right now, not.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Yet, give it time.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: What's your record?
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Well, actually restarted by dynasty.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: I bet you did, because they're supposed to be.
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: They sent a big update out I think yesterday a
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: big patch. So I just kind of went back and restarted,
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: still trying to get familiar with the game. What's interesting
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: is they just put a clip up a little bit
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: while ago. They've now gotten to the Orange Bowl and
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: they were playing bowling Green. But it appears that he's
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: playing the offense and Zach is playing the defense. Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: because when he turned the ball over, when he turned
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: the ball over on downs or whenever he had hend
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: the controller off.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: So if this is a their tag team in this dynasty.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, so he's turned it around a little bit though,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: he turned he turned things around.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're playing bowling Green in the Orange Bowl, not
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: bowling Green getting the Oarge Bowl.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Now the bowling Green fighting Nick Wilson's in the damn
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Orange Ball?
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Is that Nick Wilson school is right?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Ivy on the walls because you didn't hear Oh my goodness,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: all right, Uh, Steve's text are cracking. We got to
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: read these texts later at the show. Y'all are cracking
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: me up. All right, I gotta play the game. Uh
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: little Mac has it or Max Junior? I guess I'm
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: call him now because he's gonna He's turned seventeen today,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: by the way, Happy birthday, Aiden, Happy birthday. But he's
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: been playing the heck out of the college football game.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: He loves it. He was doing a I talked about
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the other day. He was doing like the player Road
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: to Glory now, Yeah, which I can never get into.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Plug.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Do you like that now? Dynasty mode?
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: I like Plug running the whole kind of team and
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: pro you know, stuff like that. All right, I need
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: to that out. But I will be on fiefa to
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: night everybody. That's that's where I will be. All Right,
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: we gotta take a break when we come back. As
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: you say, we're talking about Dabbo a lot. All right,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: let me double down on this chapel. Fowler covers Clemson
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: for the State newspaper. He's at ACC media Days this week.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: What does he think of the way Dabbo is talking
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: about things right now? Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ