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Diante Lee on Tua Benching, Joe Burrow's unhappiness with the Bengals, Josh Allen's playoff pressure | 12.19 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
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  Speaker 1: a hater. It is Football Coach Friday with Deontay Lee
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  Speaker 1: of Durango. What's going on, my man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, man. I was just talking to parents last night,
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  Speaker 2: you know. you know, going through like that, that booster
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  Speaker 2: club process, trying to make sure everybody's got all their
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  Speaker 2: I's dotted and T's crossed and they know what I'm about, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to kind of get my feet set.
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  Speaker 2: So I can do this thing the right way.
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  Speaker 1: He's now a head coach, a high school head coach.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? You got to wear them
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  Speaker 1: polyester Daisy Dukes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to go that far.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to go that far.
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  Speaker 2: Why not, man?
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  Speaker 1: You try to have an old school squad, man. You
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  Speaker 1: get out there, you get them boys, them neck rolls,
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  Speaker 1: get some big face masks back out here.
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  Speaker 2: Show them y'all be invincible. That's my style right there.
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  Speaker 2: That's my style right there. The more bars, the better
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  Speaker 2: the player. That's how I used to think about it, right?
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  Speaker 2: On the face mask. So yeah, no, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I can do that just kind of based off
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  Speaker 2: of my dimensions physically with the polyester mask.
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  Speaker 1: Brother brother you act like the people who the ogs
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  Speaker 1: of this was out here looking like green gods they
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like that's fair whatever you're thinking about yourself that's
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  Speaker 1: what it's cut for what they call bike that was.
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  Speaker 2: The brand yeah yeah you're right you're right you're 100
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  Speaker 2: right i might have to go take a look at
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  Speaker 2: uh at aloe and all these other new sportswear spots
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  Speaker 2: see what i can find see if.
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  Speaker 1: They still make them and i'm trying i've always wondered
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  Speaker 1: about the coaching shorts was so what was it about
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  Speaker 1: coaching that required you to have special shorts That's.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm saying. Like, did you get this job because
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to have your ass out? Was that the
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  Speaker 2: gig he was after?
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  Speaker 1: But with the people, like, when they started making the shorts,
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  Speaker 1: who was the one that's like, I'm telling you, the
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  Speaker 1: market is there. Who had that idea? Who knew this?
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  Speaker 1: What do they allow you to do that you can't
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  Speaker 1: do otherwise?
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  Speaker 2: That's funny. That is hilarious. Yeah, no, I can't. I
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  Speaker 2: have no idea. And every time I saw my PE
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  Speaker 2: coaches back in that time, I was like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's the aesthetic that we going for today.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to resonate with Southeast
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  Speaker 2: San Diego preteens and teenagers. You know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I'm going to recreate that over here at Bonita, man,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm glad to have the spot that I've got.
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  Speaker 2: Just hoping to do this thing.
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  Speaker 1: The right way. Yeah, man. Well, congratulations to you. If
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  Speaker 1: you were the head coach of the Miami Dolphins right now,
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  Speaker 1: would you bench your quarterback? Because Mike McDaniel finally said,
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  Speaker 1: ya basta. and put that boy Tua on the pod?
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  Speaker 2: I think if I'm Mike McDaniel, I'm probably looking around
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  Speaker 2: and saying, if the GM that hired me is gone,
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  Speaker 2: I'm probably gone no matter what. And if I'm tired
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  Speaker 2: of looking at this, then yeah, I should probably go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and make a change and start updating that LinkedIn, right?
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  Speaker 2: This is when you put the new headshot up on
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  Speaker 2: the profile. Start updating, you know, spent four years over here.
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  Speaker 2: I worked on developing the X, Y, and Z thing.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's time. You know, I actually
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  Speaker 2: thought I thought we've been on a slow march towards this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember right after that blowout
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  Speaker 2: loss to open the season against Indianapolis, where Tua goes
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  Speaker 2: out post-game, and he's like, you know, guys show up
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  Speaker 2: for the players' film meetings, and they were here before
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  Speaker 2: the season started when everybody was feeling good. I want
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  Speaker 2: to see where everybody's commitment level is at. And then
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  Speaker 2: Mike McGinn followed up the very next day, like, that's
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  Speaker 2: a misguided representation of what's going on in film. And
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  Speaker 2: my thought then was... Even if that's true, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if now is the time for you to be
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  Speaker 2: undermining your quarterback after y'all just got run off the
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  Speaker 2: football field. I think that says a lot about where
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  Speaker 2: the relationships were. So I'm not surprised that we're here now.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, he seems like a very nice person that people
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  Speaker 1: don't like. Like, I got those same vibes off of
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  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, anytime I see Carson Wentz, it's like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really understand. Like, you knew what the problem was with
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  Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, right? It didn't take but five minutes to
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  Speaker 1: listen to Jay Cutler. And you'd be like, oh, hell no.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing this.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say the same with Derek Carr, right? Some of
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  Speaker 2: the things you hear about Derek Carr personality-wise, I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I can get how people in the locker room might
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  Speaker 2: be tired of this whole act.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. And you might love him deep down,
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  Speaker 1: but we can't keep doing this. Tua, then he started
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  Speaker 1: doing them press conferences, and it was like, hey, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: how do you manage? And he would say the wrong thing,
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  Speaker 1: but not... Not like you heard a glass break or
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  Speaker 1: like a needle scratch. He'd say the wrong thing. And
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  Speaker 1: then whatever he said would feel like a rock in
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  Speaker 1: your shoe. We like, Hey man, that that's still getting
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  Speaker 1: on my nerves.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, things like, you know, I can't always see
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  Speaker 2: when guys are coming open, right? I can't always work
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  Speaker 2: through this stuff in the offense. Things like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of self-denigrating at press conferences. Like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I got the arm to make certain kinds of throws.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, brother, I know we in a rough
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  Speaker 2: spot right now, but I don't know if I want
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  Speaker 2: to hear my starting quarterback talking this way before we
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  Speaker 2: go play these games.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man. Honesty is a thing for me, right? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's honestly, it's easier than the alternatives, but like,
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  Speaker 1: it's an important thing to me. And like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: don't nobody like a lion motherfucker, right? Like ain't nobody
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  Speaker 1: really got no perfect record, but you just can't be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you don't cast to just be out here lying.
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  Speaker 1: It's tricky with the in-between guys. That's when it just
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  Speaker 1: becomes like a matter of taste, but I'm not much
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  Speaker 1: for lying is the point that I'm making. However, at
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  Speaker 1: the ripe old age of 45, 100% truth yee, yee.
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  Speaker 1: That's like 95, that's like 190 proof alcohol. You understand
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Hey, hey, hey. Sometimes you might need
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  Speaker 1: to step on it just a little bit. Don't put
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  Speaker 1: no impurities in it. Yeah, don't put no impurities in it,
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  Speaker 1: but you got to at least put some ice. So
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  Speaker 1: you're like, yo, so what happened on that throw? The
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  Speaker 1: answer can't be, look at me.
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  Speaker 2: Right. What'd you expect? You expect me to make this
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  Speaker 2: play in the NFL, right? There's a lot of that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that I think for him, probably that's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of looking at the writing on the wall.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually, I was really interested. I think this
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  Speaker 2: was a couple of years ago when he was on
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  Speaker 2: the Manning cast and the Manning brothers were asking him
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  Speaker 2: what's different about him now versus when he was in college.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought he was very forthcoming about ankle surgeries,
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  Speaker 2: a dislocated hip. I can't move like I used to.
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  Speaker 2: I think that that is the level of self-awareness that
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  Speaker 2: we are all great with. That crosses the threshold where
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  Speaker 2: we're comfortable. Saying things like, I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: got the arm strength to make this throw or make
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  Speaker 2: that throw that these other quarterbacks make. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to hear that. Even if we know it's true. Let
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  Speaker 2: me say that. Right. Let me say that from my seat.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to say that while you're at the
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  Speaker 2: press conference and at the facility.
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  Speaker 1: And look, there are other contexts in which that sort
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  Speaker 1: of self-deprecation, I think, is appreciated by the audience. For example, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you ain't about that gold wrapper. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Like, if you're honest with yourself about that fact,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it endears you to the people that you
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  Speaker 1: deal with under those contexts, under those circumstances. Right. But
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  Speaker 1: in this case, you just need to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We didn't make the throw. Right. Be
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  Speaker 1: a boxer.
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  Speaker 2: Right. hey if i go out there and i get
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  Speaker 2: and i land on my nose and that's just what
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  Speaker 2: it is but until that point happens i'm the greatest
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  Speaker 2: that the world's ever seen that's all you need to
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  Speaker 2: know about.
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  Speaker 1: Me i interviewed an undefeated boxer once and i tried
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  Speaker 1: to get him to talk about what if he was
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  Speaker 1: not here for it he was not here for it
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  Speaker 1: now don't get me wrong it was against klitschko and
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  Speaker 1: if the if came true And it just so happened
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  Speaker 1: by coincidence, buddy lived in my neighborhood. I had no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I flew to his training camp only to find out
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  Speaker 1: that he lived around the corner from me. And I
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  Speaker 1: saw him driving around in his Chrysler 300 and he
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  Speaker 1: had not considered the F. This had not dawned on him.
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  Speaker 1: And he was really struggling to cope with the realization
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  Speaker 1: of what had taken place.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I feel about, you know, not to totally
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  Speaker 2: derail us, but that's how I feel about guys like
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Joshua stepping in the ring with these Pauls. Why?
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  Speaker 2: I get the money. I understand the money. But why?
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to like what happens on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of this if this don't work out in your favor.
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  Speaker 2: It's one thing for Mike. Mike, you want to go
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  Speaker 2: get paid? Oh, man, I'm with it. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to watch, but I'm with it. More power to you.
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  Speaker 2: For someone like you trying to be a serious boxer,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way I would play with that just because
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  Speaker 2: of what's on the other side of that if. no
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  Speaker 2: matter how I feel about my own abilities.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man, let me tell you this. If I'm Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Joshua and I'm fighting Jake Paul, you know, I had
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  Speaker 1: fun interviewing Jake Paul that one time.
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  Speaker 2: One of my favorite pieces of content.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God, it was a wild day, man. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm fighting Jake Paul, brother, we ain't going to
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  Speaker 1: be here for long. At all. I'm not feeling him out.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't about strategy. One of us is going to sleep.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's either I'm putting you to sleep or we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to wave the white towel because I
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  Speaker 2: can't breathe no more. But I'm not stopping these punches
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  Speaker 2: until one of the two happen.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-uh, uh-uh. What is not about to happen is Jake
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  Speaker 1: Paul is not about to beat me on points.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. We ain't going to the cards here. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to hear what no judge got to say.
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  Speaker 1: No, I can't believe this shit is still going on,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. Like, now that you bring it up,
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe that this is still happening.
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  Speaker 2: Not only that, it's outpacing the actual sport. By magnitudes
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  Speaker 2: at this point. It's scary. We're in a scary spot.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let me tell you what that means. The fact
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  Speaker 1: that it's outpacing this, this tells me that kids don't
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  Speaker 1: fight enough in schools.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Because I feel like if you've been in some real fights,
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  Speaker 1: you got a whole different like the idea that fighting
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  Speaker 1: like that is just like Jake Paul fights feel like wrestling.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like they try to make it as real as possible.
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  Speaker 1: But in the end, they like wrestling. These kids was
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  Speaker 1: out here fighting for real. I don't think they would
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  Speaker 1: they would be satisfied with this right here. Like what
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  Speaker 1: I see people fight. I need some stakes. Some for
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  Speaker 1: real stakes. Jake Paul fighting against the people he fighting against.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was in true danger of going to sleep.
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  Speaker 2: Look, man, sometimes you don't even got to be a participant.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes just being close enough to see the real consequences
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  Speaker 2: that come from right punches is enough of an education
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  Speaker 2: to teach you how. real it is once you step
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  Speaker 2: into that ring or step into that octagon. So I
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  Speaker 2: totally get where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. But tell me this, though, about the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 1: So what do they do now? So you bench Tua.
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a great draft pick. It's not a
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  Speaker 1: great draft for quarterbacks. I'm curious your thoughts on this.
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying for all of these people, your move
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  Speaker 1: has to be to go kick the tires on Kyler Murray, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because people don't like Kyler Murray, but Kyler Murray is
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  Speaker 1: not bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's tricky. It's tricky for Miami. And I was actually,
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking a lot about this with Minnesota when
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't sure whether or not JJ McCarthy could be
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  Speaker 2: kept as a starter for longer than this year. You
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  Speaker 2: start looking at their cap situation and, They already traded
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey after they gave him a $ 72 million extension.
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  Speaker 2: So you got $ 21 million just hanging out that you
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  Speaker 2: can't use. Tyreek Hill, whether he's going to retire in
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  Speaker 2: the offseason, are they going to have to cut him
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  Speaker 2: because he can't pass a physical? That's probably another $ 28,
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  Speaker 2: $ 29 million on your dead cap. What do you do
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  Speaker 2: with your roster when $ 50 million are allocated to two
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  Speaker 2: players that aren't there anymore? It's going to be really
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  Speaker 2: similar to where Denver was at after getting rid of
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  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. It's where Minnesota's at right now with all
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  Speaker 2: these vets that they're going to have to cut this
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  Speaker 2: upcoming offseason or ask to take pay cuts. There is
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  Speaker 2: a legitimate chance, even though I don't think it happens,
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  Speaker 2: there's a legitimate chance that Miami and whoever their next
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  Speaker 2: GM is going to be, they're going to have to
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  Speaker 2: sit around and say, Do we need to keep Tua
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  Speaker 2: as a $ 50 million backup for a little bit just
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  Speaker 2: to kind of help our books? Or are we going
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  Speaker 2: to have to cut this guy and have over like
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  Speaker 2: $ 70 million in dead cap trying to put together a
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  Speaker 2: competitive roster? I don't know where they go from here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Falcons did that with Kirk Cousins, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like a very similar thing. And is it possible that
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  Speaker 1: somebody will try to take what's left of him?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe because of where we're at with quarterbacks. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't get Fernando Mendoza, what are you about
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  Speaker 2: to do?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you get Fernando Mendoza, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. Yeah, your world's probably not saved unless you've
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  Speaker 2: got the roster of all rosters for him to step
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  Speaker 2: into or one of these wunderkind offensive coordinators. You can't
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  Speaker 2: feel like, all right, we just rolled the ball out
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  Speaker 2: with Fernando Mendoza and now we're about to be an
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  Speaker 2: 11-win organization.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think another level of this that for me
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  Speaker 1: would be tricky about this quarterback game is, We don't
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  Speaker 1: know if they're going to be like how many of
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  Speaker 1: these kids coming in the draft next year are actually
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  Speaker 1: going to be good, right? Cam Ward was the number
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  Speaker 1: one pick this year. They've been so bad. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: thought he's been bad from what I've seen, but they've
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  Speaker 1: been so bad that it's somewhat hard to tell. Shador
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  Speaker 1: Sanders has been better than it looked like it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be early, but his advanced metrics are awful.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's at the bottom of every stat just about
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  Speaker 1: the people. I just say all that to say that
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  Speaker 1: last year didn't really have quarterbacks. This year doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: have quarterbacks, but with the presence of NIL and the
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  Speaker 1: fact that these cats can make some bread and the
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  Speaker 1: revenue sharing is about to start. Take Ty Simpson at Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: where the highs are great, but the inconsistency is an
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  Speaker 1: obvious problem. Does he come into this draft because this
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  Speaker 1: draft is weak and he thinks somebody might take him?
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  Speaker 1: Or does he stay at Alabama, try to get better
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  Speaker 1: and get himself some more bread? Which is to say,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know how many of these quarterbacks that
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  Speaker 1: we think aren't that good are actually going to try
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  Speaker 1: to go in. Some are going to see a weak draft,
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  Speaker 1: but some are also going to be like, no, I
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  Speaker 1: think I can get paid to get better.
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  Speaker 2: See, and I think that the second factor you brought
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  Speaker 2: up to get better part, at least for a guy
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  Speaker 2: like Ty Simpson, right? Like, I think this has been
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  Speaker 2: a conversation for Garrett Nussmeyer last year, right? Is do
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  Speaker 2: I come out or do I take the extra year
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  Speaker 2: to try to develop? And that ended up going sideways
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  Speaker 2: for him at LSU. I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: more about if I can go get five, seven, $ 10 million, uh,
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  Speaker 2: to go hang out for an extra year, I'd probably
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  Speaker 2: rather do that than have to risk not being picked.
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  Speaker 2: I think that what we saw from the NFL last year,
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  Speaker 2: we saw it in the Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis
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  Speaker 2: draft is, I think these teams are getting a little
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  Speaker 2: bit wiser about not taking big swings. And I think
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  Speaker 2: the thing that probably really was the final nail in
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  Speaker 2: the coffin on this is Anthony Richardson. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that for a lot of these teams now, if they
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: are not certain, they are not going to play around
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: with a top 10 pick with a quarterback. Right. And
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: I think that if you're a Ty Simpson, I think
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Lenore Sellers was a big, it was a big conversation
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: point for him before he returned to South Carolina. You've
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: got to be real careful. I think if you're a
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: quarterback coming out of college right now, if people are
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: not over the moon about you, you're probably better off
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: getting in that portal. If you need to get to
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: an actual national title contender or sticking it out where
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: you're at, take your money, feel good about another year
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: at your college, and then go see what your draft
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: stock is after the fact.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Let me explain something to you, brother. And I, I
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: know what the money is in the NFL and what
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: the possibilities are, and you want to get the clock
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: started as soon as you can.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: I get all of that. You saying what I'm thinking.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: You saying what I'm thinking.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Brother, you going to give me millions of dollars to
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: be the man in college? Woo! Come on! I can't
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: imagine to be the million-dollar man in college.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Over going to be a grota? I was listening to
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: a podcast on the way home yesterday talking about Cincinnati
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: quarterback Brennan Soares being offered north of $ 4 million in
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: the portal. I could not pick that young man out
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: of a lineup, but I know who will be able
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: to once them contracts get signed. And it's going to
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: be a whole lot of people on whatever campus he
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: lands on next, right? And I'm saying if I'm 21,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: 22 years old, yeah, being the NFL quarterback is nice.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: But what's real cool right now is being able to
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: walk these halls and knowing that everybody's eyes is over here.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Come see about me.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Think about what it was when you ain't even have
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: no money. Right? Because that's the thing about it. You
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: ain't even got to have the money. You can just
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: take them to a nicer apartment. Now, young fellas, I'm
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: going to let you know, it's harder to get them
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: to leave. But, you know.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Being the man with the nice kitchen in your apartment
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: can go a long way. Being the man with the
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: biggest bedroom can go a long way.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Just having new unused furniture, right? Yes, a new couch.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Did you see that press conference that Pete Golden, the
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: new head coach at Ole Miss, did where he was like, hey, man, players,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: live about a country club right down the street from me.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: And I got to be honest with you, we got
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: to have an HOA meeting about this because no.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: They cannot.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine living down the hall from a football
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: player who got bread. Like, nah, y'all, I know it
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but you might want to stay on the yard,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: adjust the apartment complex. That's going to be more fun.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Because they're going to call the cops on you over here.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, if I'm a young black
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: player getting an NIL deal in Oxford, Mississippi, where I
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: don't want to be is where the rest of the
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Mississippi money is at. Keep me over here with my peers.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I do not want to run across the wrong one
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: while I'm out here because I'm trying to live large.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: in a country town out there in the South.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Not to mention with what you probably got to be
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: doing in Oxford, depending upon who you are. Hey, man,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: her daddy's friends don't need to know she over there
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: hanging out with you, partner.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Pops my smile in your face.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Uncles and homeboys and coworkers might not feel the same
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: way that dad is projecting me. I don't want to
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: play that game.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Don't need it. Don't need it. But you mentioned a
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati quarterback. You were talking about the college Cincinnati quarterback,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: that NFL Cincinnati quarterback, Joe Burrow. And I don't know
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: if you remember this. I feel like I'm going to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: meander a little bit on this, but I've been trying
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to talk to people about for years about what it
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: is at Alabama and what the pressures are and how
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Nick Saban has been so good that you haven't seen
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the monster get tested. I was watching get up on Thursday.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And they was up there talking about the idea of
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: DeBoer going to Michigan. They're like, what, are you saying
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: that Michigan has just world's lower standards than Alabama? Yes,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that is exactly what I'm saying. And you guys, it's
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: just been too long. You don't remember what it was, right?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: When Joe Burrow got drafted by the Bengals, a lot
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of us were like, hey, man, you don't have to
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: do this, right? You can get yourself to another place.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: And Bengals fans were obviously upset, didn't like the talk.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: all of this stuff. But in the end, we've been
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: here for a long time over here. We've seen what
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: this has been since 1988, okay? Now Joe Burrow, this
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: is what we was talking about. Now, I don't know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: maybe he's sad with the rest of his life, but
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: who was it that made a very, I think Stephen A.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Smith that made a, and others probably made this distinction
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: after the game where he said, they asked him if
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: he had a problem with, with the team. He's like
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: being a Cincinnati. He was like, I have no problem
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: with Cincinnati. He didn't say I have no problem with
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. Right. He said he had no problem
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: with Cincinnati. Jamar Chase said he needed to go hang
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: out at buddy house.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You know, saying kind of make sure that this guy,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you know, gets up, shaves in the morning, gets the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: teeth brushed, you know, puts gas in the car, the
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: whole thing. And it's funny. It's funny that you brought
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: up the college football program as an allegory because I
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: think about Joe Burrow maybe trying to be what Nick
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Saban was to LSU when he's sitting across from the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Brown family, right? where you walk in the building and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you say, Hey, I'm good enough to win here.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: But what's happening around the rest of me, it ain't
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: up to standards. Right. And we've seen them try to
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: swing that weight around. And I think that it's kind
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: of bitten them in the ass a bit. Right. It's
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: nice having two great wide receivers. It ain't so nice
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: having a defense giving up 30 points per game. Right.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And you got to make tough decisions as an organization.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And I think that burrows hearts in the right place.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: And I can totally understand the frustration. And if you're him, you're,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: You've also got to consider, man, like, where do you
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: go from here? Because the last place you want to
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: be is in Las Vegas. If Gino Smith retires and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll leaves and Tom Brady goes and gets you.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And now you're stuck with another with another owner who's
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: just now starting to get money and is not demonstrated
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that he knows what to do with it. Right. So
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I think if you're a borough, you just kind of
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: got to keep leaning on the Browns. probably keep leaning
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: on the bangles keep leaning on the browns family on
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the brown family and see if you can get more
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: gains to kind of build this thing out because otherwise
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: if you leave if you leave that owner to his
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: own devices you're still going to be wheeling out projector
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: screens to serve as podiums for your press conferences.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah but i also say this too um Burrow's a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: blessing and curse quarterback in that what he, his superpower
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: is the patience and the willingness to wait and move
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: until something happens. Right.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: But I referenced this. I've referenced this many times over
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the years. Sacks taken are a quarterback stat.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: And he takes a lot of sacks. Like I've seen
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: people try to make the comparison and be like, yo,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: He takes even more sex than Andrew Luck. Yeah, he
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: does because Andrew Luck got the ball out of there, right?
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Like those offensive lines weren't bad every year for him,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: but the key was, and that's the point, is that
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Andrew Luck figured out how to get the ball out.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Some of Joe Burrow's misery is self-induced, right? But he
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: ain't even played that much this year to be so sad.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Like I get why Jamar Chase is sad. He was
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: out there with Jake Browning and the ghost of Joe Flacco.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Right. Right, and I wonder for him what's happening behind
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: them walls to have him talking about, I need to
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: find my fun in football again. And some of this
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: is injuries, like you said. Some of that is kind
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: of self-induced with the way that he wants to play.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I think that he would probably benefit from borrowing a
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: little bit of what we've seen from Dak Prescott, right?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: After he broke his ankle, he came back and said,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: you know what I don't want to do? I don't
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: want to get hit. And if that means throwing a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: couple more interceptions to avoid that, then let's make sure
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: that we do that. I think that would probably be
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: best for him play style-wise. And, yeah, I think that
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: they probably just need to turn over a lot of
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: what's been going on in this organization. I think Duke
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Tobin has been there for a while. You probably don't
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: need to keep him around as GM. And I think
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: that they need to kind of find another defensive coordinator
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that can do for them what Lou Anarumo did in
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: 2021 and 2022.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Counterpoint. Who the hell trying to take them jobs, bro?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Not me. Not me. And if I was a defensive
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: coordinator on the rise, I probably don't want to be
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: in Cincinnati either because you know that the owner might
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: wake up one day and say, I don't really feel
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: like paying market price for the players. We need to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: be good at this.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: But also how, even if he did want to, how
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: are they supposed to do it? They put, look, they did.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: This is also Burrow has to own. You wanted both
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: of them boys to catch passes. You got them. Now
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: we don't have anybody to cover.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And they've spent on offensive line. trying to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: address that issue. I mean, it's a zero-sum game in
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: a salary cap sport, buddy. You know, every game that
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: we put forth for you on offense is going to
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: have a cost on the other end. And that's how
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: guys like Jesse Bates end up in Atlanta. That's how
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: DJ Reader ends up elsewhere. You know, that's how all
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: these guys end up leaving. And certainly, you know, after
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: a few years, you look up and it's like, man,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: what happened to the team that was forcing turnovers against
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Tennessee in the divisional round, right? What happened to the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: team that was beating Kansas City, you know, in a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: divisional round of a playoff game? It's really hard, I think,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: for them to kind of find a balance. And if
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you're Joe Burrow and you request a trade, I would
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: just be very, very careful. about what can land on
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: the other side of that. Because it ain't no guarantee
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: that it's Sean McVay who's going to be your next
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: head coach.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the other part, too. You go ask
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Mike Brown for a trade, and he'll be like, duly noted.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: All right. We've seen this game played out before.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. People in hell want ice water, baby. Like,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: what's that got to do with me? Okay? Like, no. Okay.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: He wants to play somewhere else. I don't fucking care.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: You want to go play somewhere else? This is where
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the NFL becomes the NFL, right? Carson Palmer sold his
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: house and still hadn't been traded. Right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Literally have to say, I am going home, home. No,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: not to my home in Cincinnati. I am going back
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: to Orange County, California, and you're going to have to
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: see me another time.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And he got lucky because the only reason that that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: trade happened was Al Davis died, and Hugh Jackson had
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the keys and was like, all right, let's go ahead.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And looking back, it only worked out so well, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it was probably the right decision.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: If in this day and age you traded two first-round
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: picks For even though that was not the best version
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of Carson Palmer, but at that time, yeah, that version
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of Carson Palmer, two first round picks in this day
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and age, we're not really tripping on you doing that. Okay.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But otherwise he'd have been right there. Mike Brown, Mike
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Brown don't care about losing.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: At all. Clearly. Clearly, he ain't tripping about no losing
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: because he ain't done nothing to change it when they lose.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: No, no. It doesn't offend him in the least. Again,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: people are going to find out. This is not... Like,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: if I'm Joe... Look, man. Do what you got to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: do to put on a happy face, brother. Like, I'm
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: not saying I don't care how you feel, but I'm
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: saying don't nobody else.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, look inward, okay? That's all I can tell you.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Look inward, all right?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: But think about this. The other level of it is,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Right now, I don't think we expected this so much.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And I do think that it's probably the case that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the Ravens are a little bit of a blip this
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: year and what's happening with them. But that division is down.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Like the idea that we are at once talking about,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: should you fire Mike Tomlin? And the Steelers are probably
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: going to win this division. And those are reconcilable thoughts, right?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Like they can go together, but that tells you what's
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: going on with that division. We're winning it. does not
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: mean anything to a savvy eye.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Right, and I think that, you know, that probably informs
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: how Joe Burrow feels. I'm sure that Lamar Jackson probably
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: feels the same way. What do you mean the one
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: year that Kansas City is not the behemoth that has
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: been for the entirety of our careers, we don't have
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: any access to go compete at that level, right? We
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: can't be Josh Allen right now where you just feel like, man,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: just get me in a dance. I'll probably get us
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: to the AFC Championship game just on the sheer force
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of my greatness. I think if you're Burrow, you've got
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: to feel like, Man, the moment the 15 gets back
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: in Kansas City, even if we try to get this
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: thing upright, we're going to be chasing up this exact
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: same hill all over again.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: First of all, Josh Allen better get this done this year. Otherwise,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: it's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: This is one of them, I don't want to hear
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it type seasons.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I know the defense is bad. I know you ain't
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: got no number one receiver. Guess what, buddy? I don't
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: want to hear it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: My buddy Nick makes the point, and he's right about this,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that the Josh Allen, the legend of Josh Allen in
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the postseason has been padded by the seventh playoff team.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: they've they've been two and they get the seven at
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: home and they be wearing their asses out yep and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: then the other games it doesn't quite go this way
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: but all in a world where people feel like it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: quarterback versus quarterback the rest of the quarterbacks are out
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of here they're not there this is this is the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: time but for the bangles also before we go into
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: breaking the same thing we said about two apply to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: them joe burrow think that they could trade and then
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: go do what And then go get.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: What's waiting on you on the other side of this?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: That's my thing.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Look, they already did the thing that most people would advise,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and it didn't work out badly for them, which is
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they took the serviceable second-round pick quarterback, and they rode
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that for about a decade, and the ceiling for those teams,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you could claim that ceiling was Marvin Lewis. It wasn't.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: The ceiling was Andy Dalton, and we all know that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the ceiling was Andy Dalton, right? Then they got Joe Burrow,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and they went to a... They went to a... And
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: an AFC championship game. I want to be traded.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, buddy.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They'll be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I hear you. Look, I'm going to call you back, okay?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Exactly. What happened?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Joke, joke, joke, joke, talking crazy.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: He ain't going a damn place. We ain't going nowhere.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, not with us. But coming up next,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: we got some pretty good games here on the week,
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  Speaker 1: So we're at this place now, right? It's the interesting
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: time of the NFL season with Deontay Lee. No need
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to talk about the Cowboys anymore. Right. No need to
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: talk about the Chiefs anymore. We're supposed to talk about
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. I don't know what the hell they've
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: been doing over there. I just know they might go
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to the postseason, right? Even America's team, the Detroit Lions,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: they might, you know, they got a big game against Pittsburgh.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: That one matters. The Ravens, I mean, I guess we
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: can keep talking about them and them playing against the Patriots.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: is going to tell us a lot. But Jacksonville, Denver.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. We can talk.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: This one is interesting because Trevor Lawrence looked great last week,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: but they were playing against your team. And when I
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: say your team, I mean the high school team that
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: you coach. I mean, they were the Jets, but it's
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: about the same thing. On the other side, and you
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: follow the quarterbacks closely, it looks like Bo Nix was
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: really good against Green Bay.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I think we're kind of getting to that Jalen Hurts-esque place. Oh!
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Where you can feel how you want to feel about
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: him most of the season. And I've heard it from
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Broncos fans who have been real frustrated with me kind
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: of not bending the knee with the way that this
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: offense operates. And then you get that game against the Packers.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And I feel like, oh, this is going to be
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a let's see the truth about Mo Nix game. And
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: then he goes out and he balls out and leads
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: his team to win in the second half of that one.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And you kind of just got to sit back and
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: accept what it is that we're looking at. I think
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: that this week for him and really the rest of
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the run through the season, it's kind of cruise control, man.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like because the Broncos have already kind of
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: locked up their spot in the playoffs, they were more
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: likely to not end up getting the one season. Kansas
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: City isn't going to have their starting quarterback. And I
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: think they're going to have more talent than the Chargers
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: will in week 18. And it might be in the Chargers'
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: best interest if they've locked up a wildcard spot to
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: go ahead and take their quarterback off the field to
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: make sure nothing bad happens to him. I think if
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you're Bo Nix now, you're good. I'm about to go
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: lean on this defense. What I'm most interested in is,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: and this is for all the AFC teams and not
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: just for Denver, what's going to happen if Houston keeps
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: rolling the way that they are? That's the team I
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: look at and I'm like. Look, man, I try not
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: to invoke, you know, those great teams from when I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: was growing up. When I started thinking about the O2,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: those O2 bucks, where it was, we're going to force
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: a bunch of turnovers. We're going to make every play hurt.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: And by the end of the game, we're just going
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: to outlast you. I look at Houston and I say,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: even if you're Jacksonville, even if you are Denver, especially
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: if you're New England, You got to be looking at
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the bracket and saying, let's make sure we end up
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: on the opposite side of whatever's happening down there in Texas.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Well, they're also the sort of team that the dorks
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and the somewhat dork inclined. And I add I am
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: in one of those groups. The record caught up. to
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: what the numbers in film seem to say to people, right?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: They also did a decent bit of time where their
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: quarterback was not playing. And he is interesting because he
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: was so good, C.J. Stroud, that is, so good as
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: a rookie. I don't know exactly what the ceiling is.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I think we talked to somebody earlier this week where
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he's a guy that could win an MVP,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: but I mean that like Matt Ryan could win an MVP, right?
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Like he's a guy that could maybe get that done,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: but he's definitely good enough if you got a monster defense.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that you can do something with it and they come
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: in for you, Jack. Yeah.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: And I mean, after watching how they play Buffalo and
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: then watching how they play Kansas city, I'm like, I,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: if I'm a quarterback, man, please, please just not them.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Anybody but them. I'd rather see Denver's defense than see
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Houston's defense. And you don't really want to deal with
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the Broncos either on that side of the ball. But
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I am fascinated to see kind of how this thing
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: all shakes out. Cause right now Jacksonville sitting as a
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: three seat in the AFC, which is just not a
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: place that I thought that we'd be when we're trying
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to project out who can win this conference. And it
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: comes back to what we said about Josh Allen. We
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: covered it with Houston. And I think if you're Denver,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you've got to be looking and saying as the one seed,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: we probably get the worst of these teams. Maybe we
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: see a, Maybe we see Pittsburgh in the second round.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: We might be kind of skating to the AFC championship game.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And it's entirely possible we get to February and we
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: still haven't answered the question for how much Bo Nix
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: is doing for this team's Super Bowl odds.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: But see, this is you are correct, right? Like the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: odds are there for them and you'll get them at altitude.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: That is not an insignificant factor, right?
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I have only been to Denver once, right? But I
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't like running around and stuff like that. But hey, man,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: playing at a mile off the ground, it's a thing.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: It is. It's absolutely a thing.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: We're still waiting on Bo Nix to have a good
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: playoff game. He's only played in one, and he was
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: awful in the one that he played against. Yeah, and so...
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask, man. And like we've seen,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: we saw Lamar Jackson, how long, I mean, we don't
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: even know if he's actually there, like how long it
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: took him to like settle down and be able to
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: play decent football in the playoffs. Like this is, I'm
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: trying to think, the AFC, I mean, the Chiefs have
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: been in the championship game every year for what, the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: last eight? Yeah.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Since Mahomes has been a starter, yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what we got here that makes this interesting
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: is we have mystery. over there in this side of it. Everybody's,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: even Aaron Rodgers counts as a mystery because he's never
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: done this at 57 years old.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Right. I don't know if you're watching the Monday night game,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: but I have to commend, you know, Troy Aikman and
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Joe Buck trying to make that game sound a lot
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: more compelling from Aaron Rodgers than what it is. It
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: feels very 2015 Broncos offense. Not 2015 Broncos defense from Pittsburgh,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: but it feels very much three yards in a cloud
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: of dust in the passing game, which is not really
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: how you want to live.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, let me tell you right now, partner, I don't
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: think I'm going to be watching the Monday Night Football
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: game this week because I'm not going to just keep
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: watching until I see Phillip Rivers die. You understand what
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? I don't want to hear. I'll be very
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: curious to hear Troy Aikman try to find a way
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: to guilt that lily up.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And the one thing I will give him credit for,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: when he don't like how you play in the position,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: he does not miss words about it. He is going
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: to say in no uncertain terms that he is not
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: enjoying what he's seeing from quarterbacks. And based on what
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: we saw with Indianapolis against Seattle, I don't think he's
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: going to be very happy with all them bubble screens
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: and little short hitch routes and slants that Indianapolis is
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: going to be trying to run.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I have always found Aikman to be an unremarkable broadcaster.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: He's been doing it forever now. But I had always
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: found him to be unremarkable. But as I get older,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I have a value for him being like, no, dawg.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: this ain't it. And he doesn't raise his voice. Like
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: he never sounds like he's enjoying himself watching any of the,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: he doesn't ever sound like he's enjoying himself ever. I'm
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: trying to think of what I've seen Troy Aikman laughing
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and smiling about anything, including a Superbowl. You know what?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I think I'm sure you've had this experience, right? He
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: is the professor that is going to tell you you're
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: dumb for what you put on this paper without actually
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: saying it. Right. Yeah, I was looking at your argument
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: and I thought you tried to dress it up well, right?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: And I see you went and got this empirical evidence.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: The only problem with your argument is it's the worst
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: thing I've ever read. It is not coherent in X, Y,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: or Z fashion.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I had a professor in graduate school and like, let's
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: just say that there's a spectrum. You understand me? Mm-hmm.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: He's somewhere on it. Mm-hmm. Right? And not like, not
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: on the fringes of it either. Okay? Right. And I
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: asked him some question about a homework problem. Cause like
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: when you do a PhD econ stuff, you get a
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: homework problem. One problem take you all week, like literally. Okay.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: And so I went to office hours to ask him
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: a question. He wouldn't even look at me.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: And I didn't think it was personal. Like I just,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: you know, like I say, the spectrum, he's somewhere on it.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: And I was explaining to myself. And that man said
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to me, you are only off on one thing. And
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: that one thing is everything.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Listen, been there, okay? Took some constitutional law. We're trying
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to work through, you know, how this had a precedent
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: for XYZ, give them all the legal analysis. And my
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: professor handed it back to me and was like, I'm
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: giving you a B minus for your vigor and commitment
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to your own understanding for how you wrote this out.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: But this is absolutely not what was being argued in
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the courtroom on that day.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, man, after he said that to me,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I looked at him, he didn't look at me, but
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I looked at him and was like, So what I'm
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: supposed to do with that? Like, I didn't, I didn't,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: this isn't, I'm awful at one thing and that one
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: thing is everything. Well, get me on one thing.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: One thing, right? Give me anything.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Troy Aikman's just like, I can't believe it's 11
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: o'clock at night and I'm out here watching this. Can
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you believe that? Like, can you believe this is what
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I'm doing? But so, also, we got Pittsburgh and the Lions. Like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: my Lions, I don't, it doesn't look too good, right? But,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: they get it at home. Like, I think they win
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: this one.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I do think that they win this one. I think
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: if you're Detroit, the only thing that you're kicking yourself
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: over is that game against Minnesota. You go and you
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: win that game against Minnesota a few weeks ago, and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: now you kind of control your own destiny into the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: playoffs because it would be a little bit safer in
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: terms of win-loss. I think that they will probably kick
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: around Pittsburgh's defense. The issue for them is you're just
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: going to need help the rest of the way. You
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: couldn't have possibly forecasted that Chicago would be as good
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: as fast as they've been. And I think that that's
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: really complicated, their picture, in terms of trying to get
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: into the postseason. Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Now, this is the game, though. Green Bay is just
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Saturday night. Green Bay and Chicago. It's going to be
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: really cold.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And boys got throwing arms, though. Like, they will be
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: whipping it through the Hulk. The Hulk will be there.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: It will be going. Where are you on the Bears?
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's less consensus on the Bears than
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: just about any team you could imagine being 10-4.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I think I believe in what they will be. I
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: do not believe all the way in what I'm watching
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: right now. And some of that probably is me still
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: being married to some of my preconceived notions of their
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: offensive line, some of the stuff that Caleb Williams has
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: struggled with in his first year and early in this season,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: their defense, which is really not that impressive outside of
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the turnovers that they force. But I watch every week
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: and we get to the second half and it's like, oh,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: there goes Ben Johnson calling a good Ben Johnson plays again.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: You know, there's Caleb Williams escaping pressure and ripping the ball.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: You know, you kind of spoke to it about it
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: being cold and windy. People talk about how arm strength
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: is overrated. You should go watch how Caleb Williams was
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: throwing in the cold against Cleveland last week. That's what
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: arm talent will do for you because it certainly didn't
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: look like that ball was losing any velocity. I think
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: that I think they're a legitimate playoff team because we
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: just got this parody in the league. I do not
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: think that what we watch is actually reflective of a
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: 10 plus win team. And I don't think that they're
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: as talented as Green Bay. All that said, it's entirely
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: possible that we're going to get to the end of
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: that game and Ben Johnson will have schemed them up
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: and they end up winning by 10 or so points, right?
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I think that that's in the realm of possibility. I
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: just don't think this is a team that's actually competing
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to get into the NFC championship game.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Are the Packers?
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Before Michael Parsons tore his ACL, I would have said yes.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But I feel like we felt pretty good about them
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: before they got him, right?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair. You know what? To me, this
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: is a lot of this is Oklahoma City before Shea
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Gilgis Alexander became Shea Gilgis Alexander. And we keep waiting
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: for Jordan Love to take that leap. Right. And I
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: think that this game, as well as last week against Denver,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: is where we keep kind of say, all right, buddy,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: real defenses. Right. High stakes games. We've seen this thing falter.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Now's your time to go put that big arm. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: all that ambition with throwing the ball deep downfield, this
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: is where we need you to turn the corner. And
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: it's just been mixed results, right? And I think that
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: for him, he's in that same place. So he's in
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: a similar place to where we are with like a
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, right? Where Jackson is the MVP, right? So
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit different context in terms of the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: national conversation. But we keep waiting for these guys that
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: we want to crown as potential champions, being in the
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: top five quarterback conversation. And we just have not gotten
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: over the hump in the way that we need to
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: in these high leverage moments.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, the thing about top five is it only
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: got five.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Exactly. All right. Somebody got to be seven. Somebody got
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: to be nine.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Somebody's got to be there. Right. Did the Eagles fool
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: you last week? They went out there. They also destroyed
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: your team, your high school team that you coach. I mean,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't think the Raiders are going to be this bad.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, OK, got Gino, got Pete. Like there
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: could be. They are awful. And I feel like good
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: for you. Eagles means nothing.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: It means absolutely nothing. Man, I've been we've been around
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: football too long. I know that game. I know that
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: game like the back of my hand, man. I watch
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: college football. I know this game. You go and you
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: lose your top 25 matchup. And then you've got, you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you've got the sisters of the traveling poor coming in
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: the next week. We about to go ahead and just
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: kick the hell out of them to feel a little
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: bit better about ourselves. But that don't mean that we're
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: going to be champions. If they were going to fix
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: what they needed to fix to be a real team,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: we would have seen it much earlier. Right. And I
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: think that their defense, similar to Denver, right, they can
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: get hot. and end up shutting down enough teams maybe
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: to get deep in the playoffs. But in terms of
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: what we've seen offensively, there's no way. We would have
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: seen it already if they had it, and they clearly
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: don't have it. And that's going to put, I think,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni in the exact position he was in after 2023,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: which is where he don't like to be. where he's
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: winning all these games in the regular season and nobody
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: knows what you do and whether or not you're valuable.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I'm trying not to let it jump out of me, Bo.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I'm trying not to let it jump out of me.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is more clear on the I
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: don't see what's going on with this guy that you
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: are about Sirianni. And I admit, I don't know what's
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: going on with them either. They just win a lot
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: of games. But when they're not good, they're not good
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: in ways that speak to coaching. When they are good,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I don't give him any credit for that. None. And
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: that feels horribly unfair.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Look, man, I'm in the high school ranks. We've seen
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: those high school hoops teams, O-A-A-U hoops teams, where you
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: got one set and we're running flex. We're running motion.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: And all motion really means is pass it to Will, right?
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: That's the whole offense. And with them, when they do
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the things that are obvious, get the ball to A.J. Brown,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: get the ball to Devontae Smith, right? Run the ball
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: behind the offensive line that has taken a step back
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: this year. I will say that that is a complicating
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: factor that they might not have anticipated. All that stuff
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: is stuff anybody can do. You don't got to hire
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Sean McVay to go put together an offense for A.J.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Brown and Devontae Smith. But if you can't get an
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: offense with those guys and you were an offensive coach
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: before you became a head coach, I think it's fair
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: for us to ask, what exactly is it that we
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: are doing with you that's adding value to this operation?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what coach they need to hire? It's
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: another coach that's won a championship with that exact roster.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Kirby Smart.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Man, we can make, man. That would be a hilarious combination.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to consider what Kirby Smart would be with
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia Media.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, Kirby will handle that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: That would be very Buddy Ryan-esque, I would think.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I think Kirby could navigate that. I'm just saying, don't
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: nobody know that roster better than Kirby. It's all his guys.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: All his guys are out there. Gunner Stockton will be
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: their quarterback in a year or two. Whatever their quarterback is,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: it'll be some white guy with two last names.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: You want to try to go get George Pickens, right?
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go bring back my old headache.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I think he might be like, nah, dog. I've, I've, I've,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I've written this one as far as it'll go. It's
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: funny that you mentioned that with Pickens, because I think
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: you and I have talked about this, but I talked
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: about this with somebody else to me, even it's going
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to go a little bit under the radar, but the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: biggest surprise of this NFL season for me personally, is
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: that Brian Schottenheimer appears to be a good NFL coach.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And again, I have felt that Dak Prescott is a
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: very good quarterback with not a low ceiling, but an
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: apparent ceiling. But that is not what he has looked
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: like this year at all. At all. He's looked like
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a top four dude.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I'm about about five weeks into the season. I was
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: sitting there listening to Brian Schottenheimer talking to postgame conference.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, God damn it. Do I like this man?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: What's happening right now? This sounds like a really good
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: football coach. This is not how I felt about this
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: man in Seattle. This is not how I felt about
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: him as an offensive coordinator in Dallas.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And Georgia or any of these other places he's been.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, I never thought that he was terrible. Right.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I think that he's taking a lot of blame. Maybe
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: outside of Georgia. The Georgia time there was real, was
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: real rough. what the expectations were.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that he got the offense where
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: he needed it to be there. But as far as
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: being in the NFL, I feel like everywhere he's been,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: he's probably added value. Maybe this is him inheriting some
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: of how I feel about his daddy. Right. And that
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: is kind of tainted the way that I look at
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: the Schottenheimer last name. But he's been great with Dak.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And it's a shame that he's got to play for
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the owner that he's got. Because if they would have
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: had a serious roster going in with the way that
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's been playing, he could have been in the
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: MVP race. And this team absolutely could have been competing
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: to win the NFC.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Hey, also this man, his father, no matter what anybody
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: ever says, was an excellent coach. One game away from
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: being in the Hall of Fame. It's one of those
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: John Elway games. he's probably like john elway game the
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: drive in january 1987 if the browns win that one
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: yeah marty schottenheimer probably makes if ernest beiner doesn't fumble
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: in 1988 he probably does and then i am assuming
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that you did the charges thing i don't think people
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: talk nearly enough and i forget what the play was
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: i mean who the player was but you know what
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: i'm talking about mccree Okay, it was Ronald McCree. Yes,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: it was. Interception to ice that game against the Patriots,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: and then they gave up the booty and it went
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: back the other way.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: And that's the LT MVP. year where he looked like
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: one of the best players.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: He had like 27 touchdowns.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Yes. You know, that's when you got Antonio Gates at
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: the peak of his powers. You got a young Phillip Rivers,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Sean Merriman, Sean Phillips. That team was stacked. That team
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: was pretty loaded. And if you go and look at
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: what the rest of the AFC playoff bracket was, And
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: how the Chargers were playing them at that point in time,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: they 100% if they beat New England, at least get
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: to the AFC title game and very likely could have
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: gone to the Super Bowl. And I would have taken
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: my chances with that offense against any team they would
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: have seen coming out of the NFC. So yeah, I
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: think if Marty Schottenheimer gets over the hump there, even
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: if it is that late in his career in 2006,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: he probably does reclaim enough of those failures to be
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: able to get himself in the hall.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look here, man. because they only had two losing
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: seasons ever. I'm certain of this.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Almost never had a bad offense either.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: No, just never a great one, right? Except for what
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about. But they would have beaten
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the 06 Colts because if there's anything that Peyton Manning
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: did not need to see is a stacked 3-4 defense. Hell,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: they beat them in the playoffs before. They were the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: exact sort of team to give Peyton Manning fits and
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: then they would have gone out there and played against
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the Rex Grossman, Chicago Bears.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, if I'll go outside
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: right now and just yell out 2006 outside my complex,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get cussed out on my balcony, okay?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Because nobody here wants to think about it, talk about it,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: or see about it, okay?
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Y'all still might have had a team today that won
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: that game.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: You're not lying. You're not lying. And now all these
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: poor Chargers fans that have been adrift have now all
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: kind of adopted the Padres. which is just inheriting a
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: whole lot of the same kind of heartbreak.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, but at least the Padres are spending money.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're still doing it now that
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Buddy passed away. Rest in peace. But they was throwing
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: that bread around, though.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: And it looks nice. I mean, going to Petco was
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: one of the nicest parks you can be at in
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: the majors, right? So everybody feels good when they go.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I think they're probably a couple pieces away. And like
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: you said, now the ownership is obviously going to be
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: going in transition. We'll see what that roster looks like
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: because it probably ain't going to be as nice as
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: it was in 2022 and 2023.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine living in San Diego and my job
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: is to be intense. Because how am I supposed to
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: do that?
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I got to get myself out of bed early enough
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: to get there every day. It's hard to be mad, man.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: It is hard to have an attitude. I cannot lie
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: to you. It is hard to have an attitude.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: 70 degrees again? Right.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: How poor old me. As a matter of fact, if
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: anybody can identify, it's Mr. Pissing Off Cleveland for three
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: straight winners. Yes. So I know you can identify with that. God,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: But see, the difference is Miami can get super hot
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: on you. Miami gets rain on you. Hurricane type situation.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: San Diego is just like, what if it was the
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: same great day every day?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: That's why I can't even talk weather with my buddies.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I start complaining about how it's 55 degrees and people
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: want to throw me out the group chat because nobody
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: want to hear that shit.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Well, my problem when I was in Miami was ain't
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: nobody want to share in my joy. Everybody was just
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: all wrapped up in themselves. Ain't nobody want to share
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: in my joy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: You know, misery, you know what misery seeks. And if
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: you ain't got none of it, they don't want you around.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Let me tell you, I don't, I
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: don't ever miss Miami, but I do miss the weather
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: in my, like you miss things about Miami. But that January, February, boy,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: that was, I remember, but I tell you this though,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: 50 degrees there, it's cold, it's the same in San Diego.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: The 50 that you get is different than the 50
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: that you get in other places. Exactly.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: They don't know that. They don't understand. They can't understand
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: what it's like coming off the coast.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? They ain't
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: never had to rough it like we done had to
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: rough it.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: See, and I wish, I wish for more of our
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: American public that they got to experience that so that
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: way they'd have a deeper appreciation of for what it
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: is that they have, right? That's really what it is.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: That's right. You know what I'm saying? It's me and
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Deontay Lee from the ring. And we teach y'all about appreciation,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: the head coach. We got to come up with something
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: like a sister nickname for you in the center. I'll
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: start calling you coach. Like I do my high school
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: coach called him coach of the day he died. You
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like, this is just what it is.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: You're going to be coached forever to them young boys.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I got coaches that I had in
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: high school now that I'm in my 30s and they
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: were in their 30s and they were coaching me and
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: their kids now are in high school and it's never
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: going to change. But I'm also forever coaches, coaches forever.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm also trying to imagine you hollering at them boys.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: It's kind of hard for me to grasp.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I'll see. And that's something we, if I'm ever in
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: New York and we get a chance to cross paths, right?
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I think that you got to hear some personal reference
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: on that, right?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Because how I.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Project as a media member is 100% different than what's
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: happening once I step out on the turf.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Hey man, I appreciate you, brother.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: All right, man. I appreciate being on.
• 54:12
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