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Listener Questions · United We Scan

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  The. Hey, welcome to the United We
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  Welcome back, everybody. What are we at Episode 151?
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  51. Yeah, yeah.
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  And guess what? You're getting 2 episodes out
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  within a week. And yeah.
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  Is it? What?
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  Is that 151 with the cardi? No, no, actually, I don't have
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  that on Malibu. We're good.
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  That's Malibu. Isn't Malibu 151 and pineapple
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  juice? I've never seen a Malibu 151
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  Bacardi yes and usually that that shot comes to you lit on
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  fire, but you can see where we're going today.
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  No no, we're not drinking. I think today is kind of we're
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  just going to take a little bit of a go back through our
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  listener questions and emails that we either haven't finished
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  addressing or haven't addressed or haven't answered.
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  And I apologize guys, because, you know, my life right now is
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  crazy. And so, yeah, I actually got
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  home in time today to actually do this.
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  So here we are. And so how has your your, your
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  time, your few days been there, Josh?
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  That was, what, Thursday? Yeah.
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  Pretty Thursday night, pretty Good Friday.
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  I was dragging ass because some people whose names I won't
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  mention kept me up way too late Thursday evening.
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  Whatever, I don't know what you're talking about.
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  How dare somebody didn't have to edit and upload either, so I
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  don't want to hear it. Yeah, exactly.
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  And had Thursday off. He had Thursday off.
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  I I did, you're right, Friday night, Friday and Saturday were
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  I had mic kind of days. I don't know for some of you
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  older listeners out there, you catch that reference.
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  I was done and home by what? What like 3:00 both days?
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  I think. So that was a beautiful thing.
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  Today. I just I really didn't do much,
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  just chilled on the couch or on the front porch most of the day.
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  Meow. How was your last few days?
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  Hopefully better than the beginning of your week.
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  Well, so Friday I had my I actually got my K day off
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  thankfully nice and so I kind of went a little brain dead, which
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  is good because I need a mental reset sometimes.
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  Saturday was not fun. We got hit pretty hard with the
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  Amazon parcels, which is a bittersweet almost like we it's
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  good to have the increase back in some of our parcels, but I
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  just wasn't expecting it so it was a little tiring.
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  I broke 200 scans so there was that.
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  And I had a WSH Mailer so that was a little rough there too.
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  And I filed 2 grievances so been getting all that stuff situated
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  just send to my steward. So there was that.
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  And then today was Easter and just been hanging out with my
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  kid today and trying to veg out but that is not the case.
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  So how have you been, Kristen? Well, after the very late night
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  Thursday and not being able to sleep, but I, I got up Friday
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  all right and worked and then came home and then left and
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  drove the 3 1/2 four hours to my mom's and hung out with my mom
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  this weekend until I drove home this afternoon and got home
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  about, I don't know, 4:45-ish. So it's it, it was an emotional
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  weekend as it usually is when I'm down there.
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  I just, I know it was coming to realize on my drive home.
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  Since January 24th, I have been at my mom's every weekend except
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  for my spring booster weekend. That was the only weekend I
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  didn't go to my mom's and I was really trying to get out of
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  going, but it didn't happen. So and I'll be going back down
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  again Thursday after work because mom has some
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  appointments coming up, but the end of the week and Friday and
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  Monday. So I'm tired.
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  That's just a normal. That's just a normal state for
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  me anymore is tired. The insomnia is horrible, Yeah.
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  And nothing seems to help it. So, you know, I deal with it.
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  That's just how it is. I got to make sure, Oh yeah, you
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  know, so I got to be to work on time Tuesday, Wednesday,
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  Thursday, because I'm doing OJT with my new RCA for my row.
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  So I got to make sure I get there on time, which is usually
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  an issue for me, even though I live around the corner.
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  It's again falling asleep then I'm not wanting to wake up in
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  time, but Wednesday I have to get up extra early because my my
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  puppy that we got back in November, my foster to adopt is
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  getting his his neuter done Wednesday and I either have to
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  be there by 4:00 PM Tuesday to drop him off which training a
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  brand new RCA. I don't know if that's going to
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  happen or not or he has to be there by 6:30 Wednesday morning
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  and it's like a 3540 minute drive.
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  So yeah. I, I I wish you luck on no mail
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  Wednesday. And, and because of all the
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  other Subs being scheduled on Wednesday, I mean, I'm used to
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  when I'm training somebody new on my route, the last couple
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  times that I've trained on my route, I mean, well, my old RCA,
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  we didn't really have any other RC as in the office.
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  So at that time that could help split the route.
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  So I just did it all day every day, which was fine.
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  If we were getting to be, oh, or, you know, we're, we're
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  lagging behind and we just switched seats and I, you know,
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  finish off the route quickly. And then before, when I was in
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  RCA training somebody on the route and I was actually
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  scheduled to cover the route those days, I just let him go
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  and the same thing. All right, let's just you know,
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  if we got a trade out, we will. If not, we're good, you know, so
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  but Tuesday and Thursday I do have an RCA taking half the
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  route for us. Wednesday I do not.
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  So I'm just going to let him go and see how it goes.
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  You know, if, if he wants to do the front half again on
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  Wednesday and into the 2nd and into the back half, great.
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  If he wants to wait and just ride along and then start the
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  back half, we can do that. I don't care.
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  However, you know, we, we'll, we'll work it out.
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  We'll, we'll do it. And I'm just, you know, all
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  about, you know, seeing what they can do.
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  So it really just depends. So I'm hoping Thursday will be
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  an easy day so we can get out and get back at a decent time.
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  So I can head back down to my mom's Thursday, right?
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  So yeah, that's, that's what I'm doing because I know tomorrow
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  will be a 10/11 hour day as Mondays are for me.
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  Been every Monday with the exception of one in the last
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  couple months, I always break 200.
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  I mean, I only had 216 this last Monday, but a couple Mondays ago
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  I had like 244. So that's crazy.
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  I know it is. I'm getting kind of, you know,
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  Mondays are, well, they're Mondays, Mondays and day after
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  Monday. Holidays are always fun, aren't
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  they? Yeah.
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  Oh yeah. Yeah, especially, you know, when
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  my seasonals are starting to come back rapidly.
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  The bulk of them will be back in May, but they're starting.
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  I've got quite a few that have actually cancelled their their
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  COAS early and coming back. So hey, I'm all about that.
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  It's like to see my people again after they come back from
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  wintering and warmer weather. But other than that, so we're
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  going to go over. Yeah, we're going to do listener
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  questions. I know we had that big long one
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  a few weeks ago that we started in on.
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  So I think we may finish that one up first.
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  We've had a couple other ones that popped up.
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  I know some of the questions on the big long one kind of tail
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  into a recent question, what we had and have a couple other
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  emails that I haven't been able to respond back to that we'll
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  touch on here. So.
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  So I'm going to go. Ahead, Josh.
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  Since I have it up, I'm going to read this e-mail as it is, and
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  if it's a question we've already answered, we don't have to go
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  into detail. We can just say yes, no or
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  other. Or are we?
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  And then we'll move on to the next one.
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  Yeah. Are we, you know, yes, and we've
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  covered the details of it. Let's see.
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  Well, you know, did we scan family?
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  Our office has come up with some questions we were hoping you
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  could answer on the pod to hopefully help us along with
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  other carriers route questions. Can any carrier get trained to
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  do mapping for the office? If so, can you explain the
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  process? Do you get paid?
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  We covered that one. Yeah, yes you can and we covered
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  that. You know the how to The load
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  truck feature is not available to the parent child routes after
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  calling AMS. It only works in the office you
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  start your day in. My route is rare and starts out
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  with the little portion of my route first, then goes to the
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  second office for my main volume of my route.
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  I feel I'm missing out on this feature big time with getting
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  100 plus packages a day. Will this ever change?
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  So the load truck feature from my understanding isn't what is
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  giving you the RX credit. Now the load truck feature can
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  help you sequence the parcels, which is a good tool.
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  But from my understanding of it, you, if you're, if you're
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  worried about making sure your route is receiving the proper
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  credit for all of the parcels that you are delivering, you can
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  request from management the product tracking report so that
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  it's or it's pack. I think it's a package tracking
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  report and it will show you all of the parcels that you
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  delivered for that day. You could also, you know, just
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  for Peace of Mind, if you really wanted to, you could make
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  yourself a little notebook and at the end of the day, you can
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  go in and you can review how many parcel scans that you have.
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  Now, keep in mind it'll have your certified on there as well.
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  And you won't necessarily get to see which what you delivered to
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  which location unless you really want to get real nitty gritty.
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  With it, and you'd have to write down every single one before you
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  switch. You'd have to look at it before
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  you switch to the other zone and then at the end and subtract
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  out. Yeah, you, you would have to
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  look per zone, but even if you're wanting to just see the
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  total, it'll show you the total with both zones.
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  I know that I've looked at my and I, I've looked at my total
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  after I've assisted on other routes.
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  It's specifically one that's in a different zip code and it, it
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  included both, both routes that I had my route and the route
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  that I had assisted on. So if you're wanting to verify
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  these sorts of things for Peace of Mind with RX management can
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  provide you that one report. You can go to the to the review
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  entries in the in the NDD and the in the scanner each day and
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  just kind of keep a notebook for yourself.
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  You can even write it on your trip sheet if you really wanted
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  to. I know there's some people who
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  have started doing that, but like I said again, just make
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  sure that you realize like you, you had certifieds too.
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  If you are somebody who does use the load truck feature and you
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  are also reviewing your scans at the end of the day, just keep in
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  mind you're going to need to divide that number most likely
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  in half because it will pick up the scan from you low trucking
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  it and from you delivering it. So some people I know, I've seen
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  it, I've seen it where it said they delivered 400 parcels and
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  it was like, no, you won't. You had 200 because you use low
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  truck. Right.
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  Well, and I don't know if they when she's saying the low truck
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  feature, if she's also talking about the package look ahead
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  which the two of them are tied together.
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  Yeah. And I mean, I think that that's
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  an unfortunate thing. I think there is, I mean, we
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  could go on a whole rant about parent child routes in general.
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  I mean there is. I've even still been digging and
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  looking at different things for the parent child route
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  specifically. And I think that the national
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  like meet the Union's pretty well aware of those sorts of
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  issues with it. But I, I, I would hope that they
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  could fuse maybe the AMS edit books together or maybe there is
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  a way that they could do one zone on one scanner and then for
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  the, the child portion, then you have another scanner.
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  And possibly, you know, that the tit for tat for both sides of
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  it, because that might make it a little bit easier for, for
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  people to keep track of, especially with, you know, then
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  the, then the AMS edit book can get downloaded.
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  The, the other thing that I, I am, and I'm not expert on this
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  by any means. I know that there has been
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  issues with the load truck in my office in the past and there was
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  like a reboot and a new download that needed to happen on the
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  docking stations for the scanners.
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  And so they had to do like a manual like restart of all the
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  scanners so that it would download the information again.
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  And I don't know if it's something along those lines for
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  it. That part I would have to get
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  back with after I did some digging on that.
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  All right. Can you explain in further
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  detail interlock pouch high and Interlock pouch low?
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  What qualifies the route, the high or low?
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  There has been a lot of confusion on this in our office.
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  I remember we talked about this. The main difference is if you
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  need a conveyance to load and unload at the from one office to
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  the other. Correct.
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  And and the way that you change that is inside of DPM there is a
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  one of the columns on the left hand side is about the lock
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  pouch or I think it says what was it it says?
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  Intermediate Office. Intermediate office, and that's
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  the same thing as that lock pouch.
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  So just use them interchangeably in that regard and it'll plot,
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  It'll make you plot where the the intermediate office is and
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  and confirm it in there. It will also show up on your
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  4241A and M on the, I believe it's on the right side of it.
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  It has its own square and it'll have a time standard in there.
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  I think it says like low or high and then it has the time
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  standard for the week in there. Been trying to map for 2 1/2
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  years and a couple times I got to the office my supervisor had
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  everything already done and wouldn't let me look at
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  anything. I know we talked about that.
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  That's something a conversation with your steward or Rep.
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  Yeah. And I'll just tell you like from
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  from my own personal experience, I've been pretty thorough with
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  my management that I need to be doing my mapping.
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  I've actually even offered to become a mapping facilitator
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  them because we're so the managers are just so short
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  handed on stuff. And I just, I, I was the initial
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  mapping facilitator for my office and on my most recent
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  eval, I noticed that there is a March date on there and I know
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  that I have not met my route and since the beginning of February
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  that I was there. So I knew management went in
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  there without me. I actually gave my managers a
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  physical piece of paper that said I am requesting to map
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  within the next few days that it was left open-ended, made them
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  sign it. I kept the copy and I again
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  asked them yesterday if I could map my route because I know that
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  they went in there without me and they said I don't know when
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  we can map. And I was like, I ended up
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  filing your grievance because of it because I know that they went
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  in there without me and I've given them the opportunity to
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  let me sit down with them and go through it.
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  And that's why I had my step one discussion.
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  I gave them the opportunity to correct the situation and they
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  didn't. So now I'm at grievance.
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  Fast forward to now, we have new management.
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  I tried scheduling mapping 7 times and she would cancel on me
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  every time for various excuses. I told her I know my mapping is
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  not right and I need to map for count is over or on filing.
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  She finally asked if I could come in on a Saturday.
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  Come to find out she has never done it before and didn't know
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  how to do it. I was there for three hours and
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  all we accomplished was putting in my 5 missing railroad
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  crossings and 27 missing stop signs.
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  I I would be filing for the sheer fact that management
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  normally is twirling their thumbs during the day when
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  carriers are gone anyway, so I'm not saying that they necessarily
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  are, but I've heard many stories that they are.
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  They could have time to sit down and watch that Zoom training
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  video on how to map. And I you could also request
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  that they give you AP day which means some they have a sub
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  carrier route and you sit down with them for the day in front
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  of the computer to do the mapping.
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  And if you're coming and if you are coming in on your relief day
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  to do the mapping, you are not doing that off the clock.
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  That should be a DACA Y and that would give you an X day.
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  Yes. The other thing too is that your
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  managers can also contact their rule delivery support
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  specialist. If they're also, they've looked
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  at the training, they're still having issues with the mapping
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  their rule. DSS can help them in their in
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  the district. The other thing I would
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  recommend for anybody who's listening to this and wants to
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  educate themselves on the mapping so that you know that
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  the managers aren't screwing it up is on the union website.
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  There is step by step videos, there's PowerPoints on there
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  that goes over the mapping so that you know that the manager,
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  if the manager is pushing you and rushing you through things,
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  then you at least have educated yourself to realize like, hey,
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  there's something wrong. There's a red flag here.
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  So I, I just seriously would encourage every single person
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  should be knowledgeable with the mapping.
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  Almost the same with management too, but that's a whole other
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  thing. The other part of this from what
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  she said that's also an alarm bell to me is that it sounds
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  like the traffic control points that possibly her footage, the
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  there's, it sounds like there's a lot of things that are in the
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  mapping that could be potential issues.
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  And I would recommend going through your 4241A and M and
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  making sure that all of those things are correct to your
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  route. And you possibly determining or
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  you're going to need to determine if those things are
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  correct. Like your hard items, like your
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  CBU groupings, your traffic control points, your the stop
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  sign sounds like they're good. But then the railroad crossings,
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  but I don't know about stoplights.
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  I don't know about footage. I don't know if, if all those
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  things are are incorrect, then you would need to do a dispute
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  for each of those items. And those are due on April 24th
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  and that will be separate then the grievance, you'll still need
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  to dispute those items to make sure that you're getting credit
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  now for what you are owed. But the grievance would be
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  taking care of the the immediate need for you to map and the
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  future need that management needs to be doing this on a
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  consistent basis and doing a schedule.
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  Well, I think this next paragraph also ties into that
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  what we just talked about. The plan was I was going to come
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  back the following week and finish mapping and make sure all
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  my addresses were correct and inactive were in and then in
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  quotes active form. She of course cancelled on me
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  and that was the week of court or of count.
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  Monday after count she handed me a list of the inactive
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  addresses. 64 addresses on that list are supposed to be active
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  and marked as inactive. Why does the edit book not match
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  up with the mapping? All these addresses are marked
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  correctly in my edit book and are active in capitals boxes.
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  Why would they show up as inactive on mapping?
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  I told my postmaster this and she was going to ask around in
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  quotes to see if she was doing something wrong.
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  The first question is, did she actually hit download AMS
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  download before they started the mapping?
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  That's exactly what I was going to say too.
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  Every time you go in, even if I know that my postmaster has gone
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  in and downloaded all the new updates for AMS before I go in
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  and map my route. And because I was trained to be
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  a mapping facilitator from the beginning, I do my mapping on my
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  own. I still when I go in there,
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  regardless if she's already downloaded it, I still hit that
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  download button. Yep, because.
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  I would say the only, the only time I would not download is if
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  I for whatever reason I started it this afternoon when I get
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  back and for whatever reason we don't finish and tomorrow
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  afternoon I go back in there to finish it up.
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  I'm not gonna re download it. We're just gonna because it was
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  downloaded yesterday. You're gonna keep continuing,
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  yeah? I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna keep
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  continuing and pick up where I left off.
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  And then she followed up with Makes me sick knowing how much
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  money I probably lost over the past three years.
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  Lessons learned the hard way on the importance of mapping every
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  month. 45 K before Rex, 43 J after the first RX built back up
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  to 42 K and now can't seem to move up any further.
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  Yes, I will, baby. It it also sounds like because
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  of the fact that that manager didn't understand that it took
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  her that long to even plot traffic control points that she
• 26:21
  really doesn't know to download the route.
• 26:24
  Like that manager is needs some educating some.
• 26:30
  Educating. Sounds like they skipped over
• 26:32
  the DPM and right went right to the LTM.
• 26:35
  Yeah, because they're probably on some list and then and like
• 26:38
  we're the the district was coming down hard and they're
• 26:42
  like, oh, we got to do this and not understanding the step by
• 26:45
  step process that they're supposed to do.
• 26:48
  You know, I, I honestly like, I still go back to the beginning
• 26:52
  of when we first went to start mapping and my postmaster at the
• 26:56
  time had was like, Oh, you guys need to focus on this.
• 27:01
  And just like ignored all the information regarding it.
• 27:05
  And I still like, I went back, I was like, no, every single
• 27:09
  manager in the office needs to know all of this because we're a
• 27:17
  rule route office. It's, it's like a, it's like I
• 27:21
  said before, like it's a living thing and you got to water it
• 27:26
  every month and you, you, it's just, you have to maintain it
• 27:32
  and the managers need to be educating themselves on it.
• 27:36
  But as AS rule carriers, go to the union website, watch the
• 27:40
  videos about DPM and LTM, the rule St. database information
• 27:45
  and educate yourself on that mapping.
• 27:49
  My edit book never matches up with my mapping.
• 27:51
  Addresses that should be active are being it are being inactive.
• 27:56
  How can this happen again? Sounds like they're not
• 27:59
  downloading the AMS edit book into the DPM program for any
• 28:05
  changes that might have happened.
• 28:07
  And if they are, then there's that's a whole another
• 28:12
  conversation and you might want to get your Rep involved so they
• 28:15
  can find out what's going on. Yeah, and and the AMS edit book
• 28:21
  gets downloaded into DPM, but if the if changes are made inside
• 28:26
  of DPM and they're they are not made in reverse.
• 28:31
  Yeah, it it's only a one way communication at this moment and
• 28:36
  I imagine that's for a while. That's just, it's how it's going
• 28:39
  to be because I mean, the antiquated software that the
• 28:43
  USPS uses. And that's only because I heard
• 28:47
  that AMS recently and I know I'm going a little off base here,
• 28:52
  but I know I've seen a lot of people complaining about new
• 28:55
  labels and the way that they've been printed out small, big, you
• 29:00
  know, funky, the edit sheets, completely different format now.
• 29:06
  That's because AMS just recently updated their software from
• 29:12
  Windows 98 and on to the rest of the and on to the rest of the
• 29:18
  e-mail. Yeah.
• 29:22
  All right, a route came up for a route came up forbid in our
• 29:27
  office recently and I noticed the mail volume for the for my
• 29:31
  route seems really low compared to everyone else's.
• 29:35
  It was the lowest out of all all the routes and there are three
• 29:39
  routes smaller than mine. Could this be because my mapping
• 29:44
  has been wrong for essentially the past three years?
• 29:49
  Possibly. I mean, there's, there could be
• 29:51
  a lot of different factors. It's, I mean it's, it's, there's
• 29:55
  a, there's a lot of you know, on a blanket statement without
• 30:00
  looking at all of the data information of each of the
• 30:03
  routes. I mean, you know, mine and, and
• 30:07
  Josh's routes are we deliver about 900 addresses, but the
• 30:12
  makeup of his route is different than mine.
• 30:16
  You know, I have, I have more dismounts than he does.
• 30:18
  And he has a large business that gets like a one stop drop.
• 30:22
  And we both have apartments though.
• 30:25
  You know, it's anybody, he's a 48K and I'm A45K.
• 30:29
  You know, it's just, it just depends on, on multiple things.
• 30:33
  But you it's, we go back to what are the things that you can
• 30:37
  control and it is the mapping and ensuring that you're doing
• 30:40
  the scans properly when you can and being the keeper of your
• 30:46
  route and maintaining those sorts of things.
• 30:49
  If, like I said before, if you go through your 4241A and M and
• 30:54
  you notice there's some things that are incorrect, there's
• 30:56
  certain things on there that are specifically corrected in the
• 31:00
  mapping. So it just, it, it, it could be
• 31:03
  different things. You know, you could have a
• 31:05
  curbside route and they, they maybe they're off of like by a
• 31:11
  golf course and they're mansions and they get like 10 magazines
• 31:17
  per customer versus like maybe a per day each customer versus
• 31:24
  like maybe a like low income apartment complex who barely get
• 31:30
  anything. They have a lot of insufficient
• 31:32
  addresses, but they barely get anything.
• 31:35
  So you know, it just, it just depends on the makeup of a
• 31:38
  route. Yeah, it does.
• 31:39
  And like going you know, and I'm in the middle between Josh and
• 31:43
  Meow, I'm a 46 K and I have 825 boxes, 713 are curbside, 112 are
• 31:51
  centralized CB us. I mean, my volume factor is only
• 31:56
  1.46. My coverage of my regular boxes
• 32:00
  is 68% this last time around and my central coverage is pretty
• 32:04
  much still the same at 43%, but I'm a 46 K So yeah, there's a
• 32:08
  lot of different variances that could go into that mail volume
• 32:12
  wise customers, I mean that that's really.
• 32:15
  Parcels, Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like my route a little
• 32:21
  under 1000 boxes. I have 6 businesses, sorry, 7
• 32:25
  businesses about 250 curbside and the rest is CB us, whether
• 32:33
  it be townhouses, condos, apartments, you know, and what
• 32:37
  1234 different complexes you know.
• 32:41
  And as mail said, I have one, I have one business where I I drop
• 32:46
  it at the back door and there's sometimes their letter mail is
• 32:49
  more than my DPS count for the day.
• 32:54
  So it it all depends on what what you're getting for
• 32:59
  individual volume for your route versus the rest of the, you
• 33:03
  know, the other routes mapping could play into that.
• 33:08
  If you have a lot of boxes that says are inactive, that should
• 33:12
  be active might affect that some, but there's multiple
• 33:16
  things. All right, then I'm going to
• 33:18
  read the next two together, which were the two we talked
• 33:21
  about before we started recording.
• 33:25
  We've been told anyone can put up a box as long as they put up
• 33:30
  a box on our line of travel. The problem we are running into
• 33:34
  is people who are eligible for a free PO Box are on ebooks.
• 33:40
  The system is flagged, the system is flagging it and will
• 33:44
  not let them forward the their PO Box to the street address.
• 33:49
  We were then told to fill out form 4027 with the postmaster
• 33:56
  who then send it to the POOM to approve.
• 34:00
  Then sent to AMS to remove from ebooks and put in edit book.
• 34:06
  We tried this once and never heard back.
• 34:09
  Postmaster kept saying they never heard anything.
• 34:13
  Back to the point it just fizzled out.
• 34:16
  Has anyone done this before? Are we doing something wrong?
• 34:20
  That's the first part. The second part is we have a
• 34:24
  route that drives right past the business on their Direct Line of
• 34:29
  travel who does several package pickups a week who is on the 777
• 34:35
  list and we cannot get it fixed to where they are on the route.
• 34:41
  Actually they have several addresses on the 777 list that
• 34:46
  should not be. There are even addresses from
• 34:51
  completely other towns on the 777 list.
• 34:55
  Any ideas on how to fix this? AMS told us to fill out that
• 35:00
  4027 form, but nothing happens. And before you guys get into
• 35:05
  this, I know a lot of people are going to be like what's the 777
• 35:09
  list? So the one and two of you want.
• 35:11
  To. I got it right here.
• 35:13
  Explain that all. Right the 777 list.
• 35:17
  The UPS has recently clarified the meaning of a carrier route
• 35:20
  R777, also known as a phantom route.
• 35:24
  This code is used to flag physical addresses that exist
• 35:29
  but are not eligible for delivery.
• 35:32
  As straightforward as this may seem, these results do not
• 35:35
  follow the traditional guidelines used to identify
• 35:37
  undeliverable addresses, causing some confusion.
• 35:41
  With that said, let's see. Undeliverable addresses are
• 35:44
  currently identified. This has to do with the software
• 35:47
  stuff. It could be if the delivery
• 35:50
  points empty or the DPV confirmation is set to end and
• 35:53
  it's likely undeliverable. It's worth noting.
• 35:57
  Meaning the address is in a valid range but has not been
• 36:01
  assigned to a specific plus 4 zip code +4 or delivery point.
• 36:08
  The difference with these carrier route R77 returns is
• 36:11
  that they populate a return code field with a thread.
• 36:15
  Goes into technical language that none of us would understand
• 36:18
  anyways. Basically has to do with the zip
• 36:21
  coding from what it looks like it's not it always it's not
• 36:26
  receiving the 9 digit zip code. This is the way the records are
• 36:31
  marked in the Cass data. So yeah, that's address
• 36:37
  resolution system. So yeah, that's definitely
• 36:40
  having to do the 4027. If people are don't know what a
• 36:43
  4027 is, that is the petition to for change in a role delivery,
• 36:48
  whether they're looking for an extension or in this case going
• 36:54
  from ebooks to St. delivery or even the phantom 777 to show up
• 37:02
  in edit books for in in delivery and what not.
• 37:06
  The 4027 is the form that gets filled out with all the
• 37:09
  information name of out of family.
• 37:14
  Number of pieces of mail delivered Average distance from
• 37:17
  the nearest rural route highway contractor out post office
• 37:21
  office through which the service is now received.
• 37:24
  If it's could be you know if you might be one of those that's on
• 37:28
  a border of a couple different offices type things.
• 37:31
  They want one address as another or again this in this instance
• 37:35
  would be going from the ebooks to St. delivery.
• 37:40
  And basically that's the form that needs to get approved
• 37:43
  through management and work its way down so.
• 37:46
  Go up and then back down. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:50
  I would only my only follow up question in regards to this is
• 37:54
  for that business with the pickup, how is that pickup being
• 37:58
  handled now? Yeah, that would.
• 38:00
  Is that something that that carrier is picking up themselves
• 38:05
  or is that on a collection route or I know in my case?
• 38:10
  Are they taking it to the post office and dropping it at the
• 38:13
  back door? Yeah, or.
• 38:15
  If it's that large. Yeah.
• 38:17
  I mean, we have a couple businesses in town.
• 38:20
  They have, I know the one that would be on my route if they had
• 38:23
  St. delivery at they have APO box, our dispatch truck to say
• 38:29
  it easily. Actually before they come to the
• 38:32
  office, as they're coming up through town, before they go to
• 38:35
  the next office and make their way back, they actually stop and
• 38:38
  do the pickups. At least I know the one location
• 38:41
  that I pass by because I can gauge my time on what if I'm
• 38:45
  going to make the dispatch truck or not, If I see them at the at
• 38:50
  the business picking up. So, and that was something that
• 38:53
  was arranged many years ago by a former postmaster.
• 38:56
  But yeah, my thing is, is how is how is those packages getting
• 39:00
  picked up? Now?
• 39:01
  I definitely agree with that question.
• 39:03
  I mean, if, if the carrier on that route is the one picking
• 39:06
  them up, then yeah, they need to be on the horn.
• 39:08
  And again, if this is something that needs to get higher
• 39:11
  attention, then definitely be contacting.
• 39:14
  I would go to an ADRDR on it. Yeah.
• 39:18
  And then when we were discussing it earlier, like you said now,
• 39:21
  now earlier, I wouldn't you know, attempt delivering any of
• 39:26
  that now or doing that pick up if they're not in your edit book
• 39:30
  because you're not going to get credit for it.
• 39:32
  Yeah, everything needs to be properly credited in the edit
• 39:36
  book and established that way to establish the delivery, to
• 39:40
  establish the mapping, to establish the plot points so
• 39:44
  that the route is receiving credit.
• 39:46
  And if it's not, then that means that you're not receiving
• 39:50
  credit. So verifying those other pieces
• 39:54
  in place first are important. All right.
• 39:57
  Last question on this, Josh. The very last one, and I believe
• 40:03
  we touched on it, but I don't. I think we went into detail but
• 40:07
  I don't remember. Do you get, do you get the same
• 40:11
  amount of credit doing package pick up regardless of having the
• 40:15
  package pick up sheet or scan sheet or not?
• 40:19
  I pick up packages daily for a business and he doesn't want to
• 40:24
  do it online because as orders come in throughout the day, he
• 40:29
  adds, he adds them to the outgoing tub that I pick up.
• 40:34
  He said if he does it online he has to put a number of packages
• 40:39
  in and it changes so much that he would excuse me.
• 40:45
  He would rather me scan every package.
• 40:49
  I don't mind either way, but my postmaster told me I'm not
• 40:54
  getting the proper credit for package pickups doing it this
• 40:58
  way and we were look we looked it up and I think we.
• 41:03
  I was gonna read it real quick. OK, alright.
• 41:08
  In the Rex Comprehensive Guide on Under Carrier Pickup page 79,
• 41:15
  the time standards for carrier pickup begin in the office with
• 41:20
  S026 Process Carrier Pickup event forms for carrier pickup
• 41:25
  request forms received by the carrier.
• 41:27
  The route is credited with .114 minutes or 6.84 seconds to
• 41:34
  handle and verify the form. The route will also be credited
• 41:37
  with the driving speed. Time and walking speed is
• 41:40
  appropriate for the address where the pickup occurs.
• 41:43
  Again, that goes back into your DPM mapping.
• 41:45
  For the driving and walking carrier, pick up a prepaid event
• 41:50
  includes the following actions and it is credited at 1.187
• 41:54
  minutes for each event. One check parcel manifest.
• 41:59
  Again this is the form. The carrier will retrieve the
• 42:01
  marker if applicable from their mail tray indicating an upcoming
• 42:04
  pickup 2. The carrier will locate,
• 42:07
  retrieve the pickup notification if provided to the carrier from
• 42:11
  its storage location and read the information provided before
• 42:14
  returning it to the storage location.
• 42:17
  Three, attempt to get attention. When appropriate, the carrier
• 42:20
  may lightly tap their horn to signal arrival at the customer's
• 42:22
  location. Again, this is the step by steps
• 42:24
  for the carrier pickup. For in cab activities, the
• 42:28
  carrier will follow the appropriate process for parking
• 42:31
  the vehicle in preparation for Exit 5.
• 42:33
  The carrier will retrieve the scanner and a copy of the thank
• 42:37
  you letter from its storage location.
• 42:39
  Though I never have seen a thank you letter but anyways. 6 The
• 42:44
  carrier will exit the vehicle to go to the pickup .7 manifest
• 42:48
  notification. The carrier will count the
• 42:50
  number of parcels and verify this against the pickup
• 42:52
  notification. 8 The carrier will scan the barcode and the pickup
• 42:56
  notification and make the appropriate selections for the
• 42:59
  shipment complete. 9 the carrier will look for customers form
• 43:03
  5630 and again complete the scanner options for the
• 43:07
  shipment. Complete the customers 5630 is
• 43:10
  the manifest if they have one. 10 The carrier will leave the
• 43:14
  customer's Form 5630 and the thank you letter at the pickup
• 43:18
  location. Again, I have never seen a thank
• 43:20
  you letter. 11 In cab activity, the carrier will return to the
• 43:24
  vehicle and either enter the cab no parcel or small enough to
• 43:28
  Stow in the cab area or first go to the rear of the vehicle to
• 43:30
  Stow a large parcel parcels before entering the cab. 12 The
• 43:35
  carrier will then follow the appropriate steps to continue
• 43:37
  the route if the carrier's required to scan the manifest.
• 43:40
  PS-5630, the time standard. Is. 6.06 seconds per piece
• 43:48
  scanned No no and then following and then the next one.
• 43:52
  Carrier pickup items and prepaid parcels over 2 lbs.
• 43:55
  The carrier pickup entry on the MDD is used to indicate a
• 44:00
  carrier pickup event and to indicate the total number of
• 44:03
  pieces collected. The panel mandated this method
• 44:05
  to ensure all CPU events are captured and because the Postal
• 44:09
  Service may change the number of pieces required to be scanned at
• 44:12
  each carrier pickup, ensure the carrier is credited with the
• 44:14
  correct number of pieces and scans each day, regardless
• 44:18
  whether there is a manifest issued.
• 44:20
  Carriers are credited with each item picked up as part of the
• 44:23
  carrier pickup event and each prepaid item over 2 lbs.
• 44:27
  In the same manner, Carrier pickup and prepaid items is
• 44:31
  credited at 9.55 seconds per piece and includes the following
• 44:36
  tasks. The carrier visually inspect
• 44:37
  each item, weight, labeling, postage, etcetera.
• 44:40
  Carrier will scan each item's barcode if applicable.
• 44:44
  The carrier will check the customs forms for proper
• 44:46
  completion and apply a DDD2 customs label for any
• 44:50
  international parcels that are not properly documented.
• 44:53
  The carrier will return to the vehicle with the appropriate
• 44:56
  items set aside Any rejected items at the vehicle.
• 44:59
  The carrier will load the items as follows.
• 45:01
  Through the cab, small items, through the rear door, large
• 45:04
  items in addition to the SO46 for each piece the route is
• 45:09
  credited with. The standard is 6.06 seconds per
• 45:15
  piece for either the manifest as above or the first piece
• 45:19
  scanned. If no manifest is utilized and
• 45:23
  it's applied. The S 071 partial scan is
• 45:26
  applied to any additional pieces scanned after the manifest or
• 45:29
  first piece. This credit is 1.34 seconds per
• 45:32
  piece. So basically if you're not
• 45:34
  getting the 5630 from the the prompt that you oh, hey, you
• 45:39
  have a package pick up at this address form that management
• 45:43
  comes around and gives you, you're really just losing out on
• 45:46
  that 6.84 seconds of have of handling that in the office from
• 45:52
  what I am. Reading which which boils down
• 45:55
  to 40 seconds a week if you do it six days a week.
• 46:00
  The, the other part to add is I know that the manager is saying
• 46:05
  that you're not receiving the the proper credit.
• 46:07
  You are. But the other thing that you can
• 46:11
  do is, you know, do everything that Kristen said, but when you
• 46:15
  return to the office and you're on that return to DU time and
• 46:18
  you're unloading those parcels, you can also hit prepaid
• 46:22
  acceptance and scan the remaining parcels other than the
• 46:25
  five initial ones that you had scanned so that the customer
• 46:29
  knows that the parcels made it to the delivery unit or to the
• 46:34
  office to go out for a shipment. And when you're on return to DU
• 46:39
  time, you're getting actual credit for handling those
• 46:41
  parcels and putting them in the location.
• 46:44
  So that's the only thing at all I'd add to it.
• 46:46
  But other than that, like you're just not getting credit for
• 46:50
  handling a piece of paper and scan.
• 46:54
  They follow that up with Thank you for taking the time to read
• 46:57
  the this e-mail. We all love the podcast and all
• 47:01
  the great information you guys put out.
• 47:03
  And we just want to say, and I, I hope I'm speaking for the two
• 47:06
  of you. Thank you and we appreciate you
• 47:10
  listening. Absolutely.
• 47:13
  Woohoo, woohoo. All right, so we finally got
• 47:16
  through that big long one, that one.
• 47:18
  Jumbo One. Yeah, on March 10th I had
• 47:22
  another. Apologize about the delay.
• 47:24
  Yeah, my life's been crazy guys, and it's just going to get
• 47:28
  crazy. It's just how it's going to be.
• 47:31
  I had another one that came in on March 19th.
• 47:33
  I had started to reply and then I didn't because I don't know
• 47:37
  what was going on at that time. But March 19th, it's hard to
• 47:41
  say. It was probably half asleep.
• 47:44
  Says I have a question. Can an RCA be scheduled to other
• 47:48
  offices? If a regular requested off
• 47:52
  management denied a carrier leave because our CAS were
• 47:55
  scheduled in other offices, isn't the Home Office supposed
• 47:58
  to take priority? What can be done?
• 48:02
  They can schedule them in other offices whether or not they.
• 48:09
  I'll let you take this one meow. I know I'm like processing here
• 48:14
  too, so it depends on when the leave was submitted from another
• 48:20
  office. Versus when the schedule went
• 48:24
  up. Yes.
• 48:26
  So if the RCA is already slated for this other office within 50
• 48:32
  miles, then yes. But in the same breath, then
• 48:39
  that also opens up that management should be looking at
• 48:45
  other Rcas within a 50 mile radius for approving your leave.
• 48:51
  So if management's going to use the Rcas from there, then they
• 48:56
  also need from your office for another office's leave, then
• 49:00
  they need to be doing the exact same thing for your office as
• 49:05
  well. And if it just depends on who
• 49:13
  submitted the leave first, if management already created the
• 49:15
  schedule, if you know, if, if there's another RCA available
• 49:20
  within 50 miles, you know, there's different situational
• 49:23
  things along those lines. If you think that there is an
• 49:28
  issue with it, then you should be contacting your steward and
• 49:31
  possibly filing your grievance if if you're if you're
• 49:34
  conflicted in there. But technically, yeah, the the
• 49:38
  RCA is now considered unavailable.
• 49:42
  The other thing they can do is they can have the RCA's if
• 49:47
  they're scheduled on an OX route, they can also, I hate to
• 49:53
  say this, the RCA's that are on an OX route can be utilized in
• 49:58
  another office after completing their OX route within 50 miles.
• 50:05
  They just cannot exceed over 12 hours and with two assignments.
• 50:11
  So I mean 50 mile rule says regular routes.
• 50:15
  So that that term like you might be on a 2 hour baby ox route and
• 50:21
  now you got a sub available. So there's there's different
• 50:25
  situational things that management can look into to
• 50:28
  accommodate for the leave. And like I said, if they're
• 50:33
  doing it for another office and they should be doing it for you
• 50:36
  as well. And I tell me if you disagree on
• 50:39
  this, I would argue that the commute time to and from your
• 50:44
  office to the other office should be included in that 12
• 50:47
  hours. Yes, but I think that the Step 4
• 50:50
  settlements don't, I don't know if they if they specifically say
• 50:54
  that, but I do agree with you that like, hey, I need the
• 50:59
  energy I have for for exceeding that 12 hours because you're
• 51:02
  getting compensated to go over there.
• 51:05
  Now, if you're an office that has different stations, that
• 51:10
  that's a whole different story if you guys are under 1
• 51:13
  postmaster. So that's another layer to this.
• 51:17
  If you, if you're all under 1 postmaster, all under 1
• 51:20
  seniority list with, you know, three stations under that,
• 51:25
  that's a whole nother situation. Three how cute, sorry or what?
• 51:33
  I said 3. How cute.
• 51:36
  Yeah, I know. So I hey, I was going to say 2.
• 51:39
  All right, We're going to cover the last e-mail and then we'll
• 51:43
  jump back to that question we had on Spotify that came
• 51:48
  through. Yeah.
• 51:49
  But then it ties into the first e-mail.
• 51:51
  But this one we could probably fairly answer fairly quickly.
• 51:56
  This came in on Tuesday, March 24th.
• 51:59
  Can you cover route consolidation Section 12.5 Point
• 52:04
  B of the National Agreement, particularly in offices with at
• 52:08
  least one vacant route and route evaluations below 47 standard
• 52:13
  hours? Route consult.
• 52:16
  OK, So all right, hold on. Let me.
• 52:19
  Let me were you 12? What?
• 52:21
  My brain, my brain is also like mental.
• 52:25
  My file cabinets and my brain are all opening right now 12.5.
• 52:30
  Point B 12.5 Point. 212, 12/5 OK.
• 52:36
  B as in boy. And it's and it was specifically
• 52:39
  talking about the routes that are.
• 52:41
  Substandard below 47 standard hours.
• 52:45
  OK, which hold on 47. Because we're all opening up the
• 52:51
  tabs, yeah. Or grabbing my phone.
• 52:54
  I want to visually look at it before.
• 52:56
  It's safe but pooped in front of me.
• 52:59
  Oh, I have it on my phone. It lives right there on my home
• 53:02
  screen. It was open to other stuff.
• 53:06
  Oh, it was open to EMA because I was looking at the EMA stuff
• 53:08
  earlier. You said specifically routes
• 53:11
  that are below 47. 47 standard hours.
• 53:15
  All right, 40 A40K is 47, starts at 4724.
• 53:22
  OK, All right, so and then you and then they asked about 12
• 53:27
  what? 1212. 12.
• 53:29
  Five BG. 12B as in boy? OK. 5.
• 53:34
  Route Consolidations. OK, well and then.
• 53:38
  Well, and it also ties into the stuff ahead of it too.
• 53:43
  So, So all right, first situational thing here.
• 53:47
  You have a route that goes vacant inside of a zone and
• 53:52
  management, there's also contractual language not in this
• 53:57
  section, but let's say that management decided that they
• 54:02
  didn't want to post the route up forbid and they were going to
• 54:07
  dissolve the route and and use it to put into all the other
• 54:11
  routes. Management has to notify the
• 54:14
  union and do it within 60 days of the route going vacant.
• 54:19
  And if they need more time, they have to provide the union with
• 54:24
  that. We have not seen that situation
• 54:26
  happening very often lately because since RX.
• 54:30
  But management does have the ability if they choose to, to
• 54:35
  build routes up with that, which I have seen happen in the old
• 54:41
  mail count system. But currently right now the only
• 54:45
  contractual language that we have is, is that part of it.
• 54:50
  Now if a route, which is the part that's above this section
• 54:56
  in the contract, if a route is substandard and let's say that
• 55:01
  it is below 35 standard hours and it has been this way for a
• 55:09
  period of two years, then management will convert the
• 55:16
  route to an auxiliary route. Because now it is, it is, it is
• 55:21
  way under the table and it's it's way even under than what an
• 55:25
  ox route has to be to become. Now again, like I said,
• 55:30
  management has the choice in whether or not they want to
• 55:34
  dissolve an ox route and build your routes back up.
• 55:37
  But there is no obligation currently for that.
• 55:42
  And I could foresee some of that changing, but I'd like to use an
• 55:51
  example of this. We have a route that's a 2 hour
• 55:53
  baby ox route in my office. And we have been trying to get
• 56:00
  the district and my office and the post office to put the two
• 56:05
  hour baby ox route back on the other route.
• 56:08
  That's because it's only a two row route zip code.
• 56:12
  We're trying to get them to put that 2 hour baby ox route back
• 56:14
  on the route that it we used to be on, but she was a 47 K and
• 56:21
  that was like when we first got Amazon busted, they created the
• 56:25
  Sox route, but now she's gone down and this thing's barely a 2
• 56:28
  hour ox route. Like it's at like 11 hours for
• 56:31
  the week. So we're like just put it back
• 56:33
  on there. But there is cost analysis,
• 56:36
  things that the Postal Service does when they're doing route
• 56:39
  adjustments. And I think that their primary
• 56:42
  goal was focusing on the routes that are overburdened and going
• 56:48
  through that process. And now because we still have
• 56:52
  some overburdened routes, I think after they are done with
• 56:56
  that, then I think they're going to be turning their sights on
• 57:01
  possibly building some of those routes back up and giving them
• 57:06
  the ability to adjust. But I, I guess, don't hold your
• 57:12
  breath. We had a route that was a 25 H
• 57:21
  and it stayed that way for two years and then the route finally
• 57:27
  went vacant. Thankfully somebody took one for
• 57:30
  the team. Well, actually what the carrier
• 57:33
  ended up going into management so the route finally became
• 57:36
  vacant and we were like don't post it.
• 57:40
  And then when they did route adjustments, they actually
• 57:43
  merged the 2 OX routes together and created a full size route,
• 57:48
  again thankfully. So they have different abilities
• 57:52
  to do these things. It's just a matter of the
• 57:55
  timeline for them to do them and management has to make that
• 57:59
  decision in that 60 day window if a route is going vacant to do
• 58:04
  that. Now, I've seen paperwork that
• 58:08
  says that the goal is for most of the routes to be 43 case.
• 58:13
  That's like the sweet spot from what it looks like to me.
• 58:18
  That's what the language has said before.
• 58:20
  Now I in a perfect world, I wish that the the supervisors could
• 58:27
  square everybody up and probably make everybody equal, but it's
• 58:31
  not just as easy as snapping your fingers and squaring
• 58:37
  everything up. If your office has an
• 58:40
  overburdened route, that is typically where the managers are
• 58:44
  looking to build back up the other routes and or possibly
• 58:47
  creating an ox route. It just depends on the situation
• 58:50
  of the office. So but but keeping in mind that
• 58:54
  like 60 day rule and knowing if management is going to choose to
• 58:59
  dissolve a route, they have to dissolve it 100%.
• 59:02
  If management is choosing to dissolve a route and there is an
• 59:07
  ox route in the office, they have to dissolve both 100% and I
• 59:12
  can't remember exactly where it states that, but it says it.
• 59:17
  But you know, there's different territorial things that they're
• 59:21
  going to have to do. If management is adjusting 1
• 59:25
  route in a zip code and they're moving territory through, they
• 59:29
  have to leave them at the same base hour of what they're at or
• 59:33
  increase it. They cannot take away and not
• 59:36
  give them anything back to the minute.
• 59:39
  And if I were you, again, like I've said before, double check,
• 59:42
  verify, make sure all that stuff's good.
• 59:45
  But there's a lot of possibilities of things that
• 59:47
  could happen. And I think that there's people
• 59:50
  who have now gone down and possibly, you know, there's
• 59:53
  routes that are frozen. There's a lot of different
• 59:56
  scenarios out there in the field of things that could happen.
• 59:59
  And I think we're just kind of waiting to see because we're
• 1:00:02
  this we if there were one day into the new evals and things
• 1:00:07
  could change over the next few weeks.
• 1:00:09
  No, I just looking at 12 B. If you look at 12 B2, I'm
• 1:00:16
  thinking they might have had a typo and then 37 hours because
• 1:00:21
  it's that says consolidations of encumbered routes currently
• 1:00:26
  evaluating to less than 37 standard hours may be made if
• 1:00:32
  this causes an accessing situation which is not
• 1:00:36
  eliminated by bidding. I'm sorry, I'm using my phone
• 1:00:41
  because I don't know where my bifocals are.
• 1:00:44
  By bidding in accordance with Articles 123C1, reassignments
• 1:00:51
  will be made to offices with world vacancies in accordance
• 1:00:56
  with articles 125A1. So I'm not sure if that's what
• 1:01:01
  they were speaking about. OK.
• 1:01:04
  So in the situation in the situation where a route has been
• 1:01:10
  considered substandard for more than two years and the route
• 1:01:14
  wasn't vacant, then what'll happen is that a regular will
• 1:01:19
  become an unassigned regular and any route that becomes opened
• 1:01:25
  within a 50 mile radius that becomes vacant that they'll be
• 1:01:30
  reassigned. So typically when a route goes
• 1:01:33
  up forbid and there's a pre award process, one of the
• 1:01:37
  criterias in the pre award process is seeing if there is a
• 1:01:41
  excess rule carrier who's displaced due to due to certain
• 1:01:46
  situations and that is what the rule carrier will get.
• 1:01:51
  Now that rule carrier, that doesn't mean that they're just
• 1:01:54
  in exile for the rest of their life.
• 1:01:57
  It would also I I believe it would be the junior regular so
• 1:02:04
  there would be a shift in bidding and the junior regular
• 1:02:09
  either has the option to go back to be a it could become APTF
• 1:02:16
  provided there is 2K routes available or they're going to
• 1:02:19
  get whatever is leftover within a 50 mile radius.
• 1:02:22
  Now they also have retreat rights.
• 1:02:25
  So when another route becomes available again in their home,
• 1:02:29
  in their home Home Office, then they most likely will will be
• 1:02:34
  able to bid and and come back that way.
• 1:02:37
  So that's a situation that could happen.
• 1:02:41
  I had to look it up a while ago because of like I said, we had a
• 1:02:45
  25-H in my office and it was, I think it went down, it was like
• 1:02:50
  a 26 H and I think it finally and then it went down to a 25-H.
• 1:02:55
  It was brutal. So but the goal and I think that
• 1:03:00
  that's why we have that contractual language about
• 1:03:03
  management having the ability to post, either post the route or
• 1:03:07
  do a route adjustment with it and dissolve it is because you
• 1:03:12
  don't want that to happen. You don't want excess rule
• 1:03:15
  carriers and we shouldn't necessarily be like money
• 1:03:20
  grubbing and wanting to like dismantle everybody's routes
• 1:03:24
  either, You know, I don't ever want to see anybody displaced,
• 1:03:28
  you know, but it is a reality. And I think more about that sort
• 1:03:33
  of stuff happened as a result of DPS implementation and as a
• 1:03:41
  result of FSS implementation too.
• 1:03:44
  And I'd have to kind of go and research more of that again.
• 1:03:48
  But if management was wise and like let's say the office has a
• 1:03:54
  bunch of H routes and and like maybe 1 overburdened or one of
• 1:04:01
  the H routes come becomes vacant, then they should
• 1:04:04
  probably try and ask and hold it off so that they can dissolve it
• 1:04:09
  and put it into the other H routes.
• 1:04:11
  I would think. I mean, logistically speaking,
• 1:04:14
  like there's different and like I said, there's a cost analysis
• 1:04:17
  and there's different situations that they're going to have to
• 1:04:19
  look at with it. But if it wasn't a typo and it
• 1:04:23
  is 47 standard hours, which is roughly a 40K, they're not going
• 1:04:28
  to try and build those up because they're already #1
• 1:04:31
  they're already AK route or a 40 hour K route.
• 1:04:35
  So and as you know it is, it was already stated earlier going
• 1:04:40
  through with this right now districts are looking at the
• 1:04:45
  overburden routes as far as I know when it comes to any
• 1:04:48
  consolidation of anything that is pretty much off the table
• 1:04:53
  until the route cuts are fully complete across the country and
• 1:04:57
  fully implemented. And that being said, the
• 1:05:01
  adjustments are being assigned by higher headquarters in
• 1:05:07
  Washington DC. Yes, they're the ones that make
• 1:05:10
  the list and are sending it down to the different areas and
• 1:05:13
  districts to let them know which routes will be cut when.
• 1:05:19
  Well, and originally there was like 25,000 overburden routes or
• 1:05:24
  22,000 I want to say. And now we're down to 6200.
• 1:05:29
  So they might get it, they might get through it before October
• 1:05:32
  now. So we'll, we'll see what they
• 1:05:35
  end up doing. Oh well, they'll still be a few
• 1:05:39
  because there's some sorts of agents where they can't.
• 1:05:42
  Yeah. But the most?
• 1:05:43
  Part there you know that then that was you know initially with
• 1:05:47
  the seasonal wear outs and stuff and but even some of those at
• 1:05:51
  this point in time may still get the whack it yeah I mean that's
• 1:05:56
  something we don't know obviously for sure what you know
• 1:05:59
  how they're going to do it what what you know which ones that
• 1:06:03
  are off the table or whatnot cause.
• 1:06:06
  Well I would say for example my route the only reason I didn't
• 1:06:10
  get cut last year when the rest of my when the the other zip
• 1:06:14
  code of my station and the rest of my office as a whole got cut
• 1:06:20
  is I have 3 routes in my zone. I was the only one overburdened
• 1:06:25
  at the time. I don't have enough to cut to
• 1:06:28
  make an ox route and they couldn't put it on either the
• 1:06:31
  other two. Yeah, but but then.
• 1:06:33
  The same breath. There we had we had a, we had a
• 1:06:37
  two, we had a one rule around zip code.
• 1:06:40
  She was a 47 K. They barely had enough to cut
• 1:06:44
  her. They created the two hour baby
• 1:06:46
  ox route and it's still not at 2 hours.
• 1:06:49
  It's under a but they're going to pay him two hours and it
• 1:06:52
  still exists because the contract says if you're a 47 or
• 1:06:56
  48 K, you can be cut. So I mean, we could see like
• 1:07:01
  they could, they could decide right now is the time that the
• 1:07:03
  hammer's coming down and it's done and then they're going to
• 1:07:06
  go back. And then but, but typically, I
• 1:07:09
  mean, the zones that had some of these substandard routes you
• 1:07:13
  have, you could have enough territory in those overburn
• 1:07:16
  routes to build them back up, which we've had like in two of
• 1:07:20
  my zip codes over here, we have that ability.
• 1:07:22
  And thankfully, because one of the routes was like at 35 O
• 1:07:27
  five, it was like 5 minutes away from being a substate, like a
• 1:07:30
  true substandard route. And they built it up, back up
• 1:07:34
  with one of the 48 KS and now it's AJ.
• 1:07:37
  So with growth, it just depends and like, we'll just have to
• 1:07:42
  wait and see what's going to go on.
• 1:07:43
  But like if you're a 47 or A48K, you just should know that
• 1:07:49
  management could cut you and could there's contractually can
• 1:07:54
  they can cut you? Yep.
• 1:07:56
  Right. All right, And so a comment that
• 1:08:00
  popped up on Spotify 2 days ago going back to parent child
• 1:08:04
  routes, please go down again, which none of us have.
• 1:08:10
  So you know, we, we're, we're not speaking from personal
• 1:08:13
  experience. I personally have never ran one.
• 1:08:17
  I so I do not know first hand knowledge.
• 1:08:23
  Please go over how we do end of shift duties at second office in
• 1:08:27
  parent child routes that bounces back and forth zip codes.
• 1:08:31
  How are we getting credit for this?
• 1:08:33
  How do we record this? Fixing case labels, edit books,
• 1:08:37
  changes, etcetera. So one of the things that I did,
• 1:08:41
  I, I tried to look up some information about this a little
• 1:08:44
  bit and you just have to get really, really meta with it too.
• 1:08:50
  So the handling of the mail like let's say your soup from there
• 1:08:57
  the believe it was the PO6O3 states that for the intermediate
• 1:09:04
  office or the with the parent child route, you would take that
• 1:09:08
  mail with you to the Home Office and handle it on that return to
• 1:09:13
  DU time at your Home Office. So you would be getting credit
• 1:09:17
  for it there. Now the other part with case
• 1:09:21
  labels and that sort of thing, from my understanding of it, it
• 1:09:29
  looks like it would be miscellaneous time during the
• 1:09:33
  mini mail survey. Now I don't like that.
• 1:09:36
  Like I don't like that answer. Even me saying it, I'm like, I
• 1:09:40
  wish there was a miscellaneous time scan in the scanner, but
• 1:09:43
  there's not. But the other thing you could do
• 1:09:48
  is possibly prepare some of them on return to DU time at your
• 1:09:55
  Home Office. You could also ask management if
• 1:10:02
  you can go back to that office while you're on return to the EU
• 1:10:06
  time and do the case labels then and then you when you finally
• 1:10:11
  return to the Home Office, you clock out and you do that.
• 1:10:16
  That could also be a solution for it, but if management isn't
• 1:10:22
  willing to try to troubleshoot it and get you the credit that
• 1:10:29
  you're owed for those activities, then you need to be
• 1:10:33
  calling your union steward because you, you, there's
• 1:10:36
  something's got to give there. But the best one would probably
• 1:10:42
  be you being on return to the EU time at your Home Office and
• 1:10:47
  driving over there and then coming back.
• 1:10:49
  I could see them doing that because then you're at least
• 1:10:51
  getting, you know, the credit to go there.
• 1:10:54
  And I mean, it's not going to be a frequent thing, but I could
• 1:10:58
  see, you know, every once in a while, little things like that.
• 1:11:03
  I could see somebody trying to say load time, but I don't think
• 1:11:05
  that that's accurate per RX because it's not you technically
• 1:11:10
  loading. But yeah, that's probably that.
• 1:11:15
  The other thing I would do with the, what was it the parent
• 1:11:18
  child? And again, like I said, the mail
• 1:11:21
  would be handled at your Home Office and then you would return
• 1:11:25
  it to the other one. Now I would also make sure that
• 1:11:28
  you have your inner unit. What is it?
• 1:11:33
  The inner unit, post office, the lock pouch stuff.
• 1:11:37
  So there's probably going to be some of that that should be
• 1:11:40
  credited. I don't think it would be.
• 1:11:43
  Was it NPU, non personnel unit? I don't know if that.
• 1:11:47
  Yeah, 'cause I know. Yeah, in mapping wise, it's
• 1:11:51
  still under intermediate office, whether it's high, low.
• 1:11:55
  Yeah. And I would make sure that
• 1:11:57
  that's plotted correctly. It should be in your line of
• 1:12:00
  travel, but like you would plot it there and I'm assuming the
• 1:12:06
  mail, you're not bringing the mail with you.
• 1:12:08
  The mail's already at that other office.
• 1:12:11
  It just depends on the situation of the.
• 1:12:13
  Area, Yeah, I have no clue. I mean, you would think, and
• 1:12:17
  this is just my wholehearted opinion, completely my opinion,
• 1:12:22
  nobody else's, that you know, when you have offices that have
• 1:12:26
  numerous zip codes in them and then you have these parent child
• 1:12:31
  routes that have intermediate offices where they have to go
• 1:12:33
  case up the mail for the other zip code at the other office.
• 1:12:37
  Wouldn't there be a way, and wouldn't it be more cost
• 1:12:40
  effective to have that part of the route brought into the main
• 1:12:46
  office and cased up as one route in all the mail delivered to
• 1:12:52
  that office as one route? Wouldn't that be a solution for
• 1:12:57
  some of these parent child routes?
• 1:12:59
  Yeah, I mean it, it would and I think, but but I think that some
• 1:13:03
  of it is the way that the distribution zip code truck
• 1:13:08
  because it might be an intermediate office that only
• 1:13:11
  has one rule route and it's all city or its PO Boxes.
• 1:13:16
  And it's. Probably a.
• 1:13:18
  Contractor that's dropping off the mail to that office for that
• 1:13:22
  for for that route as opposed to coming on the big truck at the
• 1:13:27
  main office or however it's done.
• 1:13:29
  I get that I I do just because. We have smaller.
• 1:13:34
  Offices in our area. I mean, I went and helped out
• 1:13:36
  one office back into my RCA days whose mail didn't come from the
• 1:13:41
  truck. You know, the mail got dropped
• 1:13:43
  off at another office and a contractor came with their van
• 1:13:46
  and grabbed the mail for these smaller offices and dropped them
• 1:13:49
  off. So I mean, I get that.
• 1:13:52
  But to me, I, I would think with all the issues, especially with
• 1:13:56
  RX coming in with, with that we've had with these parent
• 1:14:00
  child routes, to me figuring out a system and a way to just have
• 1:14:04
  them all under one roof, it seemed to me like I would now be
• 1:14:08
  more efficient, but more cost effective and a lot easier on
• 1:14:12
  the carriers. But again, that's my opinion.
• 1:14:15
  Yeah. And the other part of it too
• 1:14:17
  that's really interesting to me is like I was saying about that
• 1:14:21
  one route that became overburdened and they created
• 1:14:23
  that 2 hour baby ox route. We almost had a parent child
• 1:14:27
  route here and my district specifically said we will not
• 1:14:31
  create any more 2 zip code. It was called like it was 2 Kip.
• 1:14:36
  2 zip code routes is what they called it.
• 1:14:39
  And I kind of foresee that maybe being a thing too.
• 1:14:42
  But I know that there's already routes out there.
• 1:14:45
  There's a lot that exists that are those parent child routes.
• 1:14:48
  And honestly, like, that's probably like one of the worst
• 1:14:53
  things with RX. I.
• 1:14:54
  Agree. Like those are the people.
• 1:14:55
  That, yeah, it just seems to be vision.
• 1:14:59
  Go ahead, Josh, I would. Say I, I agree with what you're
• 1:15:04
  saying in your opinion. However, as you mentioned
• 1:15:07
  earlier with one of the other questions, we were talking about
• 1:15:10
  the antiquated systems that the Postal Service uses right now.
• 1:15:17
  They probably can't merge more than one ZIP code at a time.
• 1:15:22
  Yeah. I mean to me.
• 1:15:24
  So they have. To run each each individual zip,
• 1:15:27
  yes, you could potentially put it in the edit book and put it
• 1:15:32
  it's going to kick it back because it's not the same zip
• 1:15:34
  code. Potentially that's one two,
• 1:15:39
  you're talking DPS now or AMS flats.
• 1:15:44
  But any working mall, any working mail, raw or otherwise,
• 1:15:50
  is going to be sent to that other office anyway because of
• 1:15:53
  the zip code. The the difference in zip code.
• 1:15:57
  No, I see what you're saying it. Yeah, definitely, you know, but
• 1:16:00
  that's again like I said, that was my opinion on how to me
• 1:16:05
  would be, you know, down the road possibly more cost
• 1:16:09
  effective. But then again, it may not be,
• 1:16:11
  you know, and if you're going to that or all their office to case
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  up the mail means, you know, that's a second set of labels is
• 1:16:18
  the second edit book. So yeah, you want to get credit
• 1:16:21
  for doing those properly. And yeah, parent child routes
• 1:16:26
  right now are are a headache. They are.
• 1:16:31
  I mean, and that's the number one questions I've seen across,
• 1:16:36
  especially with the implementation of our Rex is the
• 1:16:39
  parent child routes because I think those are suffering more
• 1:16:42
  than anybody any other route because of the of the so many
• 1:16:47
  different variables to deal with them and getting the proper
• 1:16:50
  credits to handle essentially two different routes, even
• 1:16:54
  though it's all one fun times. Oh, I know.
• 1:16:59
  Wait a minute. Was that one say oh, that.
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  Was yeah, I mean that's. The cost of service also OK.
• 1:17:04
  If the Postal Service is able to, to do some of the SNDC stuff
• 1:17:10
  and shift zip code distribution that way there, there's got to
• 1:17:14
  be a way for them to, to fix that situation.
• 1:17:18
  You know, and I, I'm not, I know that there's antiquated
• 1:17:20
  software, but we're not necessarily asking them to
• 1:17:23
  rezone a zip code. I mean, they, they could, that
• 1:17:27
  might be a solution that, you know, maybe you we, this is
• 1:17:32
  crazy. They changed the zip codes in
• 1:17:34
  some areas. We actually had a route in my
• 1:17:38
  old office that was technically could have been a parent child
• 1:17:46
  route, but the way this route was put together was it's all
• 1:17:50
  one route. If you wanted St. delivery, you
• 1:17:53
  had the main city zip code address.
• 1:17:58
  If you wanted APO box and it was an RMPO that just had PO Boxes
• 1:18:04
  and you wanted APO box near your house closer than you had the
• 1:18:10
  other zip code and and and town address for the PO Box.
• 1:18:16
  But if you wanted St. delivery, you were Gaylord.
• 1:18:19
  If you wanted PO Box, you were Waters.
• 1:18:21
  And yeah, I mean, I delivered that route so I understand how
• 1:18:25
  that one worked. It it just weird on how that you
• 1:18:29
  know what I'm saying? Yeah.
• 1:18:31
  Yeah. Yeah, and there's different
• 1:18:33
  situations for them, the real true, true rule.
• 1:18:37
  And I, I, I wish I would, I would, I could see, you know,
• 1:18:42
  that routes evaluation, but it's like it's confusing.
• 1:18:46
  It's like it, it confuses us. And we, you know, we try and
• 1:18:51
  educate ourselves with it too. So like I could only imagine, I
• 1:18:55
  just you, you got to be in communication with, with your
• 1:18:58
  union steward for a lot of it and and you got to try and keep
• 1:19:02
  as much data that you have. And, and I think even on this
• 1:19:06
  level, especially with parent child routes, you're better off.
• 1:19:09
  I mean, if you you know, going to, if you have a local steward,
• 1:19:12
  yeah, definitely ask them. But I think it might be
• 1:19:14
  something that still may be out of the scope of their realm and
• 1:19:17
  going up to your ADRDR even. Yeah, because they're going to
• 1:19:22
  have a little bit more knowledge on this type of stuff than what
• 1:19:27
  the local steward would have. Yeah.
• 1:19:30
  And if that don't work, well, then you just take it up the
• 1:19:32
  chain anyways. But yeah, parent child routes
• 1:19:36
  are really they're they're a headache.
• 1:19:39
  I mean, not just for the carriers that are running them
• 1:19:41
  now under wrecks, but for people that are even trying to, you
• 1:19:44
  know, with questions and like, how am I supposed to get credit
• 1:19:46
  for this? Because obviously management
• 1:19:48
  doesn't even understand it either.
• 1:19:50
  And which you don't not going to expect them to anyways.
• 1:19:54
  But yeah, it's getting the proper credits for parent child
• 1:19:58
  routes is it's still one of those variables that I don't
• 1:20:03
  think anybody really has a true, true answer for even going all
• 1:20:08
  the way up the chain of command. I mean, in the past, I know at
• 1:20:13
  conferences and conventions when questions come about with child
• 1:20:16
  parent routes, it's still. Well, it should be done this
• 1:20:20
  way, but yeah, they're working on it, yeah.
• 1:20:25
  Well, and some of them are there's, there's so many
• 1:20:28
  different, there's the RMPOS, there's the NPU, the non
• 1:20:34
  personnel units, there's like lock pouches or or just the
• 1:20:41
  inner intermediate office part of it too.
• 1:20:45
  And some routes have multiple of those situations, some have
• 1:20:50
  none. Yeah.
• 1:20:51
  We we've got, you know. 2 routes in our office that that have and
• 1:20:55
  they're two different zip codes and they're two different zip
• 1:20:57
  codes away from our main zip code and you know they're both
• 1:21:01
  lock pouches where they take the PO Box mail and they drop it off
• 1:21:06
  during their route yeah I mean so though that part I understand
• 1:21:10
  because I've personally, you know done that yeah but as a but
• 1:21:16
  with the parent child routes again, I personally don't have
• 1:21:19
  an experience with it and I'm pretty sure neither one of you
• 1:21:22
  guys do either so. Yeah, no, not parent child.
• 1:21:26
  Yeah, the PO. Box intermediate stuff.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah, that I have experience with, but not the actual parent
• 1:21:32
  child routes. And the only route I know of in
• 1:21:35
  the area that would be considered like a parent child
• 1:21:40
  route, it's actually in out of another office and it's actually
• 1:21:45
  a highway contract route that covers two different zip codes.
• 1:21:49
  And so that, you know, isn't even, yeah, I, I, it's not even
• 1:21:52
  a carrier that I could, you know, call up and say, hey,
• 1:21:56
  because it's a highway contract route.
• 1:21:57
  So that is completely out of our scope.
• 1:22:00
  Of Hwy. contract, yeah. That's a that's a whole another
• 1:22:04
  beast. Yeah.
• 1:22:05
  And I know that one's like 100 and 3500.
• 1:22:10
  It's ridiculous how many miles long it is.
• 1:22:12
  And you know, it's it, it they they case up, you know, they
• 1:22:17
  come out of one office, yet they deliver mail out of two other
• 1:22:23
  zip codes and have to stop. I don't even know.
• 1:22:25
  I think they stop out of the think they stop at the two other
• 1:22:29
  offices. I'm not quite sure.
• 1:22:30
  I could be wrong. I know they stop at one of them.
• 1:22:33
  But yeah, it, it's, it's crazy. But again, highway contract
• 1:22:38
  completely out of our scope and you know, but.
• 1:22:42
  Yeah, you imagine that having to go to two different offices
• 1:22:46
  other than your Home Office. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:51
  That just as a whole nother can of worms.
• 1:22:55
  Yeah, exactly. Hence probably why it's a
• 1:22:57
  highway contract. Yeah.
• 1:23:01
  So all right guys, anything else for tonight?
• 1:23:04
  Otherwise, we're going to wrap this puppy up.
• 1:23:07
  I was just going to ask. I was just going to ask if there
• 1:23:09
  was any any others? Nope, I pretty much I went
• 1:23:13
  through it. I haven't logged on to the other
• 1:23:14
  platforms to see if there was questions on there, but I know
• 1:23:18
  that one popped out and I checked the e-mail routinely.
• 1:23:21
  So again, guys, if you send an e-mail and you don't get a
• 1:23:25
  response right away, life is crazy for me, as everybody
• 1:23:29
  knows. And you know if if we.
• 1:23:33
  If you were the best you can. I am, I am.
• 1:23:36
  And if they're really good questions, I tend to try and,
• 1:23:40
  you know, share them with the other two here and say, all
• 1:23:43
  right. And we know if it's something
• 1:23:44
  that we're going to cover on air or if it's something that we can
• 1:23:48
  just type up and reply. Even if one types up the answer
• 1:23:51
  and I copy and paste it to reply, I mean it, you know, we,
• 1:23:55
  we do what we can. We're just carriers.
• 1:23:58
  That's all we are. We're just carriers that are
• 1:24:01
  trying to help the rest of our carriers family and you know.
• 1:24:07
  For entertainment. Yes, for yeah, we, we try to be
• 1:24:11
  entertaining too. We try.
• 1:24:18
  So, you know, that's just, you know, the main goal is to help
• 1:24:21
  in whatever way we can without getting in trouble as much.
• 1:24:26
  But you know it happens once in a while.
• 1:24:31
  Are you not entertained? I are not.
• 1:24:37
  I don't like mud slinging, so I don't, I, I try not to sling.
• 1:24:40
  We, we don't sling mud. We don't, you know, it's like,
• 1:24:43
  hey, here's this question. This is what we looked up.
• 1:24:46
  This is where we found it. You know, if you have any
• 1:24:50
  further questions, we highly recommend that you reach out to
• 1:24:54
  your reps. That's what they're there for.
• 1:24:56
  Yep, that's what they're supposed to be there for.
• 1:25:00
  And you know, and if it's a question, they may not know the
• 1:25:02
  answer, they have a chain of command to go up and find it
• 1:25:05
  too. So that's, you know, I highly
• 1:25:08
  recommend, you know, following the chain if you can.
• 1:25:12
  And if you're not getting the answers out of 1, you know, move
• 1:25:15
  on up the line. I mean, definitely, you know, I
• 1:25:17
  don't mind having questions come at us.
• 1:25:19
  We, we, we don't mind at all. And we try to at least point you
• 1:25:23
  in that right direction. I mean, to find those and to get
• 1:25:26
  those answers and to help you and to make things life easier
• 1:25:30
  for you. Your route, your office, you
• 1:25:33
  know, it's none of our offices are perfect.
• 1:25:35
  I mean, there's some Unicorn offices out there.
• 1:25:38
  I've had Unicorn management in the past.
• 1:25:41
  I wish I still I I missed that. Yeah, I really do.
• 1:25:46
  But you know, it's we're just carriers trying to help carriers
• 1:25:51
  and go from there. So.
• 1:25:54
  But all right, your final words for tonight, Josh.
• 1:25:58
  The weather's starting to change.
• 1:25:59
  It's still ugly and nasty in some areas and warm and
• 1:26:05
  intolerable in others. Hydrate, wear layers if need be.
• 1:26:11
  Do what you got to do. Don't get overwhelmed, at least
• 1:26:16
  try not to. But if you do, take a step back,
• 1:26:19
  take a deep breath and step back in.
• 1:26:22
  Have a good week, we'll catch you as soon as we can.
• 1:26:26
  Meow well. Thank you guys I hope that
• 1:26:29
  helped those people and others. What was I going to say?
• 1:26:33
  Oh my God, sorry I'm tired it's been a long day.
• 1:26:37
  I was like all sugared up on the candy with my kid but now I'm
• 1:26:40
  like crashing. But my parting words today, make
• 1:26:44
  sure that your contact information and your address for
• 1:26:50
  the Postal Service and for the union are up to date.
• 1:26:55
  And if they're not, go on the light blue and change your
• 1:26:59
  address on there. If your address is incorrect
• 1:27:03
  with the union, please contact your state secretary, treasurer
• 1:27:06
  and update that stuff that you can find their contact
• 1:27:10
  information on the union website.
• 1:27:13
  And just so that you know that you're getting all of your
• 1:27:17
  ballot information for national delegates, your magazines,
• 1:27:22
  you'll be notified for for union meetings, all those sorts of
• 1:27:27
  things so that it's not getting returned to sender and you're
• 1:27:31
  receiving everything you should be receiving.
• 1:27:33
  But have a good week, everybody. I'm glad that we got we got two
• 1:27:37
  out here. So talk to you all's later.
• 1:27:40
  So Kristen. Yes, thank you guys.
• 1:27:43
  And part of the, you know, we did this one tonight because I
• 1:27:47
  will not be available next weekend as I will be at mom's.
• 1:27:51
  And next Sunday, I'm actually going to a concert too.
• 1:27:53
  So, but I'll be a be a mom. I, I'm, you know, I'm still
• 1:28:00
  trying to do my normal stuff that I do for me and, and the
• 1:28:05
  stuff, you know, union stuff as well.
• 1:28:08
  It's difficult at times, but I, I'm trying to figure out a way
• 1:28:12
  to make it all work, you know, go in it with Josh speaking
• 1:28:16
  about the weather being crazy. You know, I went down to mom's
• 1:28:20
  and if anybody know Midwest or would consider what like a
• 1:28:23
  Michigan basement is, it's not a finished basement.
• 1:28:27
  I mean, there's, but my parents basement actually has two small
• 1:28:32
  rooms that used to be coal rooms from when the old original
• 1:28:36
  furnace was coal before it switched over to natural gas.
• 1:28:41
  And Saturday morning I had to print out a return label for
• 1:28:46
  Amazon for my daughter and I ran down to look for packaging tape
• 1:28:51
  and discovered water on the basement floor, which I can't
• 1:28:56
  remember in the 45 years that my parents had this House of having
• 1:29:02
  water on the floor from rain. No sump pump.
• 1:29:07
  This house is well over 100 years old, approaching 150 ish.
• 1:29:11
  So I was glad I went down there and yeah, that was my Saturday
• 1:29:19
  of luckily wasn't too bad and I was able to move the things I
• 1:29:26
  had to move. And my dad was an avid model car
• 1:29:33
  collector and builder. He won awards back in the day
• 1:29:37
  going to the county fairs. I mean, very, very detailed,
• 1:29:40
  right down to the wires and the engines and paint booths and
• 1:29:44
  everything. And the one room that had some
• 1:29:48
  water on the floor also had just the carpet that was put over the
• 1:29:51
  cement. And most of everything was
• 1:29:54
  raised a little bit off the floor.
• 1:29:56
  But I had four stacks, 4 stacks of car models that were directly
• 1:29:59
  on the floor. So I'm going into instant mode
• 1:30:02
  of Oh my gosh, thank God these ones on the bottom are still
• 1:30:05
  wrapped in plastic. So I could relocate these four
• 1:30:08
  stacks and try and clean up water between shop vac and
• 1:30:11
  carpet cleaner, extractor and dehumidifier and fans.
• 1:30:16
  And yeah, that was it. Lots of flooding in Central
• 1:30:22
  Michigan this past weekend, South Central.
• 1:30:25
  So yeah, definitely take care. I mean, especially if you're in
• 1:30:30
  areas that were affected like that, you know, there's many
• 1:30:33
  sinkholes and roads washed out and flooding and whatnot.
• 1:30:37
  And so just be observant of that.
• 1:30:41
  Don't try to drive through standing water on a road because
• 1:30:45
  you really don't know how deep that's going to be, especially
• 1:30:49
  in government vehicles and PO VS you know, you don't want to risk
• 1:30:54
  that and you don't want to risk, you know, sinkholes because you
• 1:30:56
  don't know you could have standing water and it could be
• 1:30:58
  washed away underneath. You don't know.
• 1:31:01
  Or it could be. Or it could be so weak if you
• 1:31:03
  tried to drive through it, a sinkhole opens up.
• 1:31:06
  So please, you know, be very vigilant on that, especially if
• 1:31:10
  you're in areas affected by that and, you know, just, you know,
• 1:31:16
  take care of yourself out there for sure.
• 1:31:19
  Yeah. Those weather is crazy still.
• 1:31:22
  Snow in areas. Torrential rain.
• 1:31:25
  I mean there was some tornado warnings and and watches in
• 1:31:30
  areas. It's just it, it's springtime.
• 1:31:34
  It's that transition period where you never know what Mother
• 1:31:38
  Nature's going to throw at you from one minute to the next.
• 1:31:41
  So, you know, just take care of yourself.
• 1:31:44
  Don't do anything that's going to put yourself into danger when
• 1:31:49
  you're out on the road and you know, safety is your call.
• 1:31:54
  Once you hit that street, that safety is your call.
• 1:31:57
  So if you're not feeling safe, there's no way to go around.
• 1:32:01
  You know, you don't have a way that you could deviate around
• 1:32:05
  standing water or Rd. wash out. You know that.
• 1:32:09
  Just remember that that's your call on that.
• 1:32:12
  So you do what you got to do to take care of yourself and be
• 1:32:17
  safe when you're out there. You know, the mail, it can
• 1:32:20
  always be delivered on another day if necessary or finding a
• 1:32:24
  different route or way to get stuff.
• 1:32:26
  I know with some of these roll routes that may be difficult to
• 1:32:28
  do so. But on that note, guys, we are.
• 1:32:34
  Yeah, it'll probably be a couple more weeks before we put out
• 1:32:36
  another episode, so take care of yourself.
• 1:32:40
  And again, disputes are due by the 24th of April.
• 1:32:45
  And we will. We'll talk with you next time.
• 1:32:50
  Bye.