Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Douglas Hodgson – Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil

Transcript

Douglas Hodgson – Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

0:04
My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
0:10
fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and the crossroads at which they meet.
0:17
Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more with
0:22
fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to Destination Unlimited. What
0:34
may humanity learn from the near death experience that transcends the historical, scientific,
0:42
medical, religious, and philosophical aspects of the NDE. My guest this week
0:50
on Destination Unlimited, Douglas Hodgson, studied and collated more than five hundred and
0:56
DEE accounts, identifying the common observations and insights drawn from them. Douglas Hodgson
1:03
is a former dean and professor of law currently residing in Perth, Western Australia.
1:08
After retiring from his academic career, he began a personal study of comparative
1:14
religions and spiritual traditions that sparked his interest in the NDE. He joins me
1:22
this week to share his new groundbreaking book on ND's spiritual revelations from Beyond the
1:29
Veil, What humanity can learn from the Near Death Experience. Please join me
1:36
in welcoming to Destination Unlimited. Douglas Hodgson. Welcome Douglas, Thank you,
1:42
Victor, thank you very much for having me on your program to share my
1:46
research findings with you and your listeners. Please share with our listeners your early
1:52
path legal scholarship and how it led to your thirty five year career in higher
1:57
education in Canada, Australia and New Zealand as a teacher, researcher, scholar,
2:04
human rights advocate and university administrator lector. I'm a Canadian Australian dual citizen
2:13
and in nineteen eighty three I emigrated to Australia and took up a career in
2:19
higher education and I spent thirty five years in the university sector. And I
2:25
particularly was interested in researching the international human rights of children, and that led
2:34
me to publish a number of books and treatises on human rights, individual duty,
2:40
within the human rights discourse, to human rights, to education, and
2:46
the international human rights and justice. And I've also specialized in the law of
2:52
causation on the civil law side of things. And I also spent some time
2:58
as a dean and a university administrator. But after some thirty five years I
3:05
retired at the beginning of twenty eighteen, and for the first time in my
3:09
life, I found myself with plenty of time to do bobby and leisure reading.
3:16
Tell us about that law of causation? What is that about? Well,
3:22
I specialized on the topic of intervening causation, not your typical treatise on
3:29
causation, and very few people had written on it. So I looked at
3:35
the topic of intervening causation and it was written more for my students than anything
3:40
else, because intervening causation is a very difficult concept for law students to understand.
3:50
Can you give us for us no law students, just a quick example.
3:55
Well, when event A happens, which could lead to damage to a
4:02
third party, and after event A occurs, event B happens, which either
4:13
adds to the harm suffered by the third party or completely overwhelms event A.
4:19
And it's an apportionment of legal liability. Should both events A and B be
4:27
held legally accountable for the damage suffered by the victim? Or is event be
4:32
totally supervening in the sense that event A is not legally responsible and event B
4:40
is totally responsible for the damage typically in a car accident. So that's a
4:46
very basic example. So the lesson learned is don't allow event A or B
4:53
to take place to begin with, that's right out of prevention is worth a
4:58
pound of cure. As they say, your book, prior to your latest
5:01
book, Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil, was last year's Transcendental Spirituality,
5:08
Wisdom and Virtue, The Divine Virtues and Treasures of the Heart. What inspired
5:14
that book and what did you share with your readers. Well, I've had
5:18
a long held interest in comparative religion. I believe that there are many pathways
5:27
to God. And I looked at twelve of the mainstream world religions, the
5:32
Abrahamic religions today is some Christianity and Islam, Bahai and Zoroastriism from the Middle
5:42
East. I looked at the Eastern religions and philosophies from India, Hinduism and
5:48
Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism China. I looked at Confucianism and Taoism and Shintuism
5:58
from Japan. And I distilled some thirty six universal ethical principles or what I
6:08
call divine virtues. And I had a chapter devoted in this book to each
6:16
of these divine virtues, with a forward in each chapter or a commentary explaining
6:24
the nature of the divine virtue, followed by supporting scriptural references from these twelve
6:31
world religions. And it was meant to be a daily spiritual guide in order
6:38
to spiritually elevate our soul consciousness and to point out to us in our daily
6:46
lives where we could do better by following these divine virtues. I had the
6:53
blessing of attending an organization known as the New Seminary in the nineteen nineties.
6:58
It was one of the world's first interfaith seminaries, and one of the lessons
7:02
that I learned back then was that in virtually every faith and every religion,
7:09
there is some iteration of the golden rule. Do unto others as you'd have
7:13
them do unto you, Love thy neighbor as thyself. Can you imagine if
7:15
everyone embraced that and let everything else go. That's absolutely right, Victor.
7:20
In fact, I have a chapter on the so called Golden rule, and
7:26
jumping forward to my current book, one of the near death experiencers, and
7:31
I'm paraphrasing here, said that all religions are merely vain attempts to articulate one
7:39
simple rule, and that is the golden rule. Do unto others as you
7:45
would have them do unto you. Absolutely, what a world this would be
7:49
if we all followed that one rule, that simple rule, Amen, Amen
7:55
is correct. How did transcendental spirituality, wisdom and virtue spark your interest in
8:01
what doctor Raymond Moody called the NDE near death experience? Well, Victor,
8:07
I have to back up here. In nineteen ninety, when I was working
8:11
as a legal academic, I plucked out a book from the university library called
8:20
Life After Life by doctor Raymond Moody that was a previous edition and I read
8:26
it from cover to cover and was absolutely fascinated by what I read. But
8:33
being a busy academic, I had very little time for leisure or hobby reading.
8:39
But when I retired at the beginning of twenty eighteen, I went back
8:45
to the near death experience and I began reading another book by doctor Aban Alexander
8:52
called Proof of Heaven, A Neurosurgeon's Journey into the Afterlife, And once again
8:58
that kindled my interest in my awe and fascination with the so called nd and
9:07
at that point I began looking at the website of the International Association for Near
9:13
Death Studies, the acronym EANs, and I combed through their archives and I
9:22
started reading the individual written accounts of those people who have undergone an nd Some
9:30
of the accounts were quite sure, others were quite lengthy. But after a
9:35
while I detected that the Indie ears were essentially saying the same things and presenting
9:43
the same messaging themes, using slightly different wording and nuances. So, being
9:52
a good university academic, I started making copious notes, and I began collating
10:00
the information and the messaging under discrete chapter headings. But at that point I
10:05
wasn't quite sure whether there was still a book in this or not. But
10:09
what clinched it for me, what the light bulb moment was for me,
10:15
was that in a number of cases, the light or the being of light
10:22
told the nd ear, you must return to your earthly life. You have
10:28
now a mission. You must share the knowledge and the messages you have been
10:33
given at the Veil for the benefit of humanity. And I said, right,
10:41
I'm going to write this book Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil, as
10:46
a mouthpiece for some five hundred written NDE accounts to get the message out there.
10:54
How does this book differ from other books on this phenomenon, Now that's
10:58
a good question. Many books detail their individual experience. Other books look at
11:07
it from a religious perspective. I didn't do that with my book. I
11:15
tried to separate religion from spirituality, unlike my first book. Some of them
11:22
delve into the religion or the philosophical aspects of the nd others the scientific and
11:31
medical aspects. But I researched the literature, and very few books have actually
11:37
looked at what is the collective messaging of these NDE accounts, What should be
11:46
we should be learning from this experience and the messaging and in spiritual revelations from
11:54
beyond the Veil. You share numerous stories, as you say, by near
11:58
death experience answers on several fascinating and enlightening topics. You begin with reports of
12:03
their experience of God or source. What were some of those experiences and how
12:09
did they change their perspectives and beliefs. Well, for those who came from
12:16
a strict religious background, they said that after their experience, organized religion was
12:22
not so important to them. They felt that it's more important to be spiritual.
12:28
In other words, they felt it was very possible to be close to
12:33
God without the intervention of organized religion, and some of them became very close
12:41
with nature, almost became pantheistic in their outlook. On the other hand,
12:48
those who were agnostics or atheists beforehand, after their experience, they felt in
12:58
client well, they incline. They knew they now had certainty and proof of
13:03
an afterlife and of the existence of God. And they all described God as
13:11
light, as the essence. God is energy and vibrations. In fact,
13:18
one end the year described God with the acronym love. God is love,
13:26
unconditional love, oneness, vibrations, and energy. God is the essence of
13:35
the energy that runs through everything, that is to be found in every sub
13:43
atomic particle of the universe of the cosmos. And that love runs through,
13:50
animates and connects everything and everyone. And the word light is found in all
14:00
almost every one of those descriptions. Indeed, there is a bit of a
14:07
dichotomy. Some Indie years claim they communicated directly with the Light, which one
14:18
can assume is the presence of God. Other Indie years claimed in their accounts
14:26
that they were communicating with beings of light, which could be construed as guardian
14:33
angels or spirit guides. But in any event, they were communicating with the
14:39
light. And this definition of source or God, is that the creative energy
14:46
of the universe? It is? It is? And how do they relate
14:50
to the Source or the creator of all that is, the bestower of all
14:56
life, the creator of all things physical and non physical realms of existence?
15:03
There are countless universes, according to the end of years, countless realms and
15:09
dimensions of existence, both seen and unseen, of vast complexity, some of
15:18
which interact with our own earthly realm. In the book, you share numerous
15:26
descriptions from the ears of Heaven. Is there a common theme in these descriptions?
15:33
And were any surprising or unexpected? Well? I can begin by saying
15:39
that you can classify the descriptions of heaven into three types. Fector number one.
15:48
You can describe Heaven from a spiritual frame of reference in which negative energy
15:58
is not permitted to enter. There is no anger, no hatred, no
16:03
aggression, no greed, no finding fault with other people, no violence or
16:11
harm. These types of negative energy are not permitted in the higher spiritual realms.
16:18
Only peace, unconditional love, joy, and unconditional acceptance and understanding.
16:32
Heaven can also be described as an emotional experience at the deepest level, one
16:41
of utter joy, of euphoria, bliss, complete understanding and connection with everything
16:51
and all that is. And there was a third group of endears who described
16:57
Heaven from the state point of sensory perception, particularly with the senses of sight
17:07
and sound, but not as we are used to experiencing them on Earth.
17:14
So with their eyes they saw beautiful rolling hills with carpets of wildflowers. They
17:22
saw streams and ponds and lakes with overhanging trees. They saw swans and the
17:32
geese gliding through the water. They saw buildings made of luminescent crystaline light with
17:40
walls but apparently no ceiling. They saw many types of birds, many beautiful
17:48
flowers, and unearthly colors that pulsated that were almost alive. And with their
17:56
ears they heard the most beautiful, indescribable symphony of music that they had never
18:06
heard of on earth, almost like it's been described as an anthem like music.
18:12
So Heaven was described from those three different viewpoints or standpoints. There were
18:22
also descriptions of hell but from a sensible awareness rather than a punitive nature.
18:32
Yes, and here again we have a dichotomy. Some people described hell as
18:41
simply an absence of the presence of God. Now that could be of the
18:48
choosing of the soul consciousness itself as one angel or being of light. Said
18:56
to an end, the ear souls choose not to accept the beauty of God.
19:04
They refuse to enter the tunnel of light, and they become trapped.
19:11
They are what the Asian people would call hungry ghosts, or what we might
19:18
call in the West earth bound spirits. They either do not accept the beauty
19:26
of God or are afraid to go down the tunnel of light. Or they
19:30
may be too attached to the earthly realm. They might be too attached to
19:37
their former home, or to precious treasures that they had, or to people,
19:44
or to other things. And there was a third category of in the
19:51
ears who described hell as a physical place of torment, of fear, anguish,
20:00
pain, suffering. And in fact, I remember one vivid NDE description
20:10
the being of Light escorted the sole consciousness to a so called hellish place,
20:18
and the soul consciousness viewed anguished souls who were part of a wall, and
20:29
their arms and face were sticking out of this wall, and they were in
20:33
pain and anguish, and they looked at the soul consciousness and it was quite
20:41
hard for the consciousness to absorb this. And the being of Light told the
20:48
soul consciousness, do not move out from under the protection of my light,
20:53
because if you do, you will never leave this place. So from these
21:00
three standpoints, hell has been thusly described by the near death experiencers. My
21:08
guest is Douglas Hodgson. His book is called Spiritual Revelations from Beyond Bavail What
21:15
Humanity can learn from the near death experience. Douglas, please share with our
21:19
listeners where they can get your books and find out more about you. Yes,
21:25
it's available on Amazon USA since January first. It's also on Kindle,
21:34
most online booksellers, Barnes and Noble, Indie Hive. Your listeners can visit
21:45
the publisher's website, zero books dot com, and it's in most bricks and
21:52
mortar local bookshops. And we'll be back with Moore after these words. On
21:57
the Own Times Radio Network, the best of the holistic, spiritual and conscious
22:03
world Ome Times Radio IOWMFM. Ome Times Magazine is one of the leading online
22:10
content providers of positivity, wellness, and personal empowerment. A philanthropic organization,
22:17
their net proceeds are funneled to support worldwide charity initiatives via Humanity Healing International.
22:22
Through their commitment to creating community and providing conscious content, they aspire to uplift
22:27
humanity on a global scale. Home Times co creating a more conscious lifestyle.
22:33
Are you prepared for an emergency or disaster? Because it's not a matter of
22:37
if, but when. Don't find yourself saying I'll trust water bottles in a
22:41
flashlight to save the day, but I'll be proved wrong well a tornado approaching,
22:47
I'll realize that I like a wheelchair accessible shelter. When the floodwaters rise,
22:51
I'll be up in the attic with twenty cans of beans. It's a
22:53
recipe for disaster. Let's prepare so we all have a better story to tell.
22:57
Get started at Ready to gov Slash Older Adults Brought to you by FEMA
23:02
in the Head Council back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week is Douglas
23:15
Hodgson. His book is entitled Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil. What humanity
23:21
can learn from the near death experience. Douglas. A recurring theme from nd
23:29
ears is that there is no separation in the afterlife, only oneness. Is
23:34
there one in particular that you found personally moving, Yes, there was one
23:41
end to ear that said that, again I'm paraphrasing, when I left my
23:48
body, I left behind my ego or I I left behind my earthly identity,
23:57
and I found that in the world of spirit, I was everything and
24:03
everything was me. And that's consistent with what you can find in Hindu and
24:10
Buddhist scripture that on earth we live in a realm of separation and separateness,
24:18
in which the observer and the observed are two different vantage points. That is
24:26
not so. In the realm of spirit. We leave behind the so called
24:33
dualistic nature of our existence, and everything is an interconnected oneness. We are
24:41
everything, everything is us. We leave behind our earthly identity and our ego,
24:51
and in fact, some Eastern religions, such as Buddhism and Hinduism,
24:56
call that enlightenment or self realization. There was an old song lyric by the
25:06
Moody Blues from a song called the Eyes of a Child, and it said,
25:10
with the eyes of a child. You must come out and see that
25:14
your world spinning round and through life. You will be a small part of
25:18
a whole of a love that exists. With the eyes of a child,
25:22
you will see. It seems like the nd Ears are almost having a childlike
25:26
experience or rebirth. That's beautifully said Victor. It is important to be like
25:34
a child, and I've actually emphasized that in my first book, Transcendental Spirituality,
25:44
the divine virtues of simplicity, innocence, purity, and gentleness and quietude
25:53
and humility. And when Indie Ears return to their earthly body, they are
26:00
changed people. They have had a profound and life changing experience. They know
26:07
now what life is about, and they no longer fear death, and that
26:11
is like being a child. Children do not have fear, they have wonder
26:17
in awe and curiosity. And that's what happens to the Indie Years. And
26:23
in this idea of non separation of this oneness, does that also include oneness
26:30
with Creator or Source? Yes? Yes. Our ultimate goal vector, according
26:37
to the Indie Years, is to become one with the Source. And Hinduism,
26:45
for example, says that enlightenment is being totally absorbed into the light or
26:52
into God. But that's along an arduous road, is done through lifetime after
27:03
lifetime of the progressive evolution of the soul consciousness. And that doesn't happen overnight.
27:14
Well, it does, perhaps to some messengers or assented masters, but
27:19
for most of us that happens after thousands and thousands of incarnations and of learning
27:26
our life lessons. What did those you researched share about the nature of the
27:33
soul. The soul is the essence and energy of God. As the religions
27:45
say, God is imminent, The Kingdom of God is within you. And
27:52
our soul is our life force. It has energy and vibrations. It is
28:00
and what we truly are at the deepest foundational level. It is our mind,
28:07
our thoughts and emotions, which are felt much more deeply and richly in
28:14
the realm of spirit. And our soul consciousness, as I refer to it,
28:21
transcends our body. It survives the death of our body, the cessation
28:29
of our heart function and our brain. It is transcendental in nature and in
28:36
the spiritual realms. The connection with God is even more pronounced, and is
28:44
the soul eternal. It is the soul is eternal, it cannot be destroyed.
28:53
It is infinite, and when it leaves the physical body, it expands.
29:00
It enjoys elevated awareness and perception. The mind has elevated levels of acuity
29:10
or sharpness. It can understand very complex concepts such as the law of physics,
29:19
which on Earth would take us much much longer to absorb and understand.
29:26
And in the realm of spirit, there is no such thing as a question
29:33
without an accompanying answer. And I found that to be very reassuring that even
29:40
before the thought question is formulated, you receive an answer from the light.
29:47
So you do have elevated levels of omniscience. Not complete omniscience, but elevated
29:55
levels. That's fascinating that every question is answered before the question can even be
30:03
uttered. Yes, and not only that it is answered clearly, completely,
30:11
fully, and unlike Planet Earth, nothing is lost in translation. There is
30:18
no risk of misinterpretation or misconstruing, no ambiguity. No, it is communication
30:29
of a quasi telepathic nature from the deepest level of the soul consciousness to that
30:36
of the other. That's fascinating. Do we have Do we make soul agreements
30:45
according to the end to years? We do, however, with the caveat
30:51
that I only identified about twelve Indi years out of some five hundred that actually
30:59
refer to the soul agreement or something similar. And you certainly have a counterpart
31:06
in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which I also researched. But essentially
31:11
between incarnations, after we have had our life review in which our soul is
31:18
cleansed or purged of whatever we brought onto ourselves in the previous incarnation, we
31:30
sit down with our guardian angels and our spirit guides and we map out the
31:37
direction or the overarching life plan of the next incarnation. So, for example,
31:47
which continent we are going to be born on, which family, and
31:52
in which circumstances we are to be born into the length of our life on
31:59
earth, and what we are to achieve. Each of us in our earthly
32:05
incarnation has a unique and tailored mission, and we must fulfill that mission in
32:14
order to progress or evolve our soul consciousness. So all of those things are
32:22
agreed to prior to our birth on earth. But once we are born into
32:30
the earthly realm, we of course have free will to determine the overall direction
32:38
of our human life, and when we reach the proverbial fork in the road,
32:45
which fork we are going to take? And it is tricky because sometimes
32:50
we choose a fork that takes us away from our life mission and draws us
32:57
into negative energy, where sometimes we take a fork that helps us to achieve
33:06
our life mission. It actually draws the positive energy of the enter of the
33:12
universe to us. But whatever choices we make in life, God respects and
33:22
honors those choices, but we do remain responsible and accountable for those choices at
33:30
the soul level. I don't know if any of the ndars ever shared this,
33:37
but my life has been blessed with what I would refer to as a
33:40
series of what Carl Jung referred to as synchronicities meaningful coincidences without causal connection.
33:47
And it seems like every time I've had a fork in the road, the
33:51
one you were talking about, the fork in the road, I'd be presented
33:53
with a situation and I had three choices. I could say no and dismiss
33:59
it out of hand. I could say, you know, that's interesting,
34:00
but I'll pursue it later. Where I could say, yes, this is
34:04
really where my path is heading. I will embrace this and move forward.
34:07
And with every big yes, with that capital y, the next one would
34:12
come, and the next one would come, and I feel very blessed in
34:14
that regard. Did anybody reflect anything like that, That's interesting, Victor.
34:21
No. I can't recall any of the end of Years referring to synchronicity,
34:25
but I do recall some of them saying that at important junctures in their life,
34:32
they were assisted after their NDE by the intervention of their spirit guides or
34:39
guardian angels. And they also said I remember one End of Year saying that
34:45
after my ND, I didn't realise much on reason and logic and relied more
34:52
on my own intuition, because she said that inexplicable knowing that we have have
35:00
We don't know how we know it, but we know that we know it.
35:05
The Indie Years said that comes from your time in the world of spirit,
35:09
because in the world of spirit you have heightened levels of awareness and knowledge.
35:16
You've always known these things, but when we are born into the earthly
35:22
plane, someone hits the delete button and we have to figure all of this
35:27
out for ourselves. But sometimes we are aided by that. If I can
35:32
call it extraterrestrial intuition, which you have always known but temporarily forgotten on Earth.
35:42
Absolutely, do we ever incarnate someplace other than Earth? Yes, we
35:49
do. According to the Indie Years, you can reincarnate either into a material
35:58
or physical realm such as Earth, and many have had many lifetimes on Earth,
36:05
but you can also become part of an unseen, non physical or non
36:10
material realm, a realm of light and energy in which you don't have a
36:17
physical body. You may have a spirit that looks like it has a humanoid
36:24
form, but you are spirit your energy. And in fact, one end
36:30
a Year related in their account that some of the life reviews actually include previous
36:44
existences, not on Earth, but in other realms, and how you went
36:50
during those existences, and how your soul has progressed. Because after each life
36:55
or incarnation or existence, all of this is recorded and played back to the
37:01
soul consciousness, so you can get a continuity of progression or elevation. So
37:08
each life has been described like a chapter in a book, and you keep
37:13
adding chapters to your book as your soul progresses eventually to complete communion with the
37:21
Light. I love that. Thank you for sharing that. That's absolutely beautiful.
37:25
Thank you my pleasure. I wonder we read about in different religions different
37:32
levels of their perception of heaven. Are there multiple levels of heaven? Reported,
37:38
Well, that's a terrific question, Victory. I'm glad you raise that,
37:43
because I did have one end a year say that there is just not
37:46
one heaven. There are many levels to heaven. And when I read that,
37:52
I nearly fell off my chair because in my research from my previous book,
38:00
for example, in Islam for Muslims, there are seven heavens. And
38:08
if you look at Indian religion, specifically the Jain faith, they believe in
38:15
the concept of ascending heavens. And in fact, I almost called my first
38:21
book Pathway to the Ascending Heavens, but my publisher encouraged me to change the
38:27
title. But that is fascinating. You have corroboration of the Holy scriptures that
38:34
there's just not one level of heaven. There are different levels to heaven,
38:38
almost like ascending, like you're graduating as your soul consciousness progresses and elevates,
38:46
if I can put it that way. And I must say that I read
38:51
something similar in doctor Abe and Alexander's book Proof of Heaven. He refers to
38:58
the core and he refers to the gateway, and it may be that doctor
39:05
Alexander, by referring to the gateway, is we're referring to a preliminary stage
39:13
of heaven before you reach the core. So that is a great question in
39:19
the matter that perhaps is a good research topic for further researchers. His book
39:27
is entitled Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil What Humanity can learn from the near
39:32
death Experience. We'll be back with more of Douglas Hodgson after these words on
39:37
the Old Times Radio network. Own Times Magazine is one of the leading online
39:43
content providers of positivity, wellness, and personal empowerment. A philanthropic organization,
39:49
their net proceeds are finaled to support worldwide charity initiatives via Humanity Healing International.
39:54
Through their commitment to creating community and providing conscious content, they aspired to uplift
40:00
humanity on a global scale. Home Times co creating a more conscious lifestyle.
40:07
Imagine yourself being transported to India, to the banks of the Ganga and an
40:13
ashram in Rishikesh. Visualize that you are welcome to Satsan with an American Sanyas
40:20
who shares the wisdom of her Guru, your visualization has manifested. Joined Sadfi
40:25
Bagawati Saraswati for inspiration and transformation Every Thursday at eleven a m. Eastern on
40:32
Old Times Radio. Hello, I'm Sandy Sedgeby, a host of Home Times
40:38
Magazine's flagship radio show What is going On? My passion is sifting through information,
40:45
research and innovations from new thought teachers, speakers and researchers, pushing back
40:50
the boundaries of what we know about life, energy, metaphysics, and the
40:53
universe. I love shifting perceptions about who we are, why we're here,
40:59
and how impossible becomes normal when we open our minds, expand our awareness,
41:04
and accept that the only limits that exist are those we place upon ourselves.
41:08
So if you're the kind of forward thinking, eager investigator of what lies beyond
41:14
the current reality that most perceive, why not make a date to come play
41:17
with me in the Field of Possibilities at four pm Pacific time seven pm Eastern
41:22
Time every Thursday, and together we can discover what's really going on. So
41:29
I'm a cat and I just moved in with this new human and she's got
41:32
this little toy she's always playing with all day long. Tap tap tap tap,
41:37
blue bloop. She can't put it down there it is Oh and get
41:40
this. She even talks to it. Last week she asked it for Chinese
41:45
and guess what. Eggrel showed up Like magic, humans have cool toys.
41:50
A person is the best thing to happen to. A shelter PAT be that
41:52
person. Adopt. Brought to you by the AD counsul and the Shelter Patproject
41:57
dot org. I could be you and you could be me for just one
42:01
hour if you can find a way to get inside each other's mind. Walk
42:07
a mile in my shoes. Walk a mile in my shoes. Walk a
42:10
mile in my shoes. We've all felt left out, and for some that
42:15
feeling lasts more than a moment. We can change that. Learn how it
42:20
belonging begins with us. Dot org. Brought to you by the ad Council.
42:23
Welcome mile in the shoes. My simple solution to the problem was remove
42:32
people from the scene and help them feel safer. In response to attacks against
42:37
Asian Americans, Maddie Park raised over two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to donate
42:43
cab rights to the Asian community. There is so much more work to be
42:45
done. We really need to come together and tackle this issue as a community,
42:51
support the Asian community, learn how a Love Has No Labels dot com
42:55
brought to you by Love has No Labels and the AD Council Billmark. I
43:00
can find humor in almost anything, but one thing I never laugh about.
43:04
It is cruelty to animals. If you don't get the joke either, right,
43:07
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals five on one Front Street in Norfolk,
43:10
Virginia two three five one oh back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this
43:22
week is Douglas Hodgson. His book is entitled Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil
43:29
What Humanity can learn from the near death experience. So in the last segment
43:32
we were talking about reincarnation. Do we ever finish reincarnating? I can't recall
43:40
reading a specific Ende account that answers that question, but my educated guest Victor,
43:45
would be that we do that eventually. We cease to reincarnate when our
43:54
soul is ready for communion with the Light, and Eastern religions would call that
44:04
total absorption in the light of God or Brahman or Nirvana or the Buddhists,
44:13
but all of us will reach that point. That is the divine plan.
44:20
We are each of our soul consciousnesses. We are unique to the cosmos,
44:27
but we are on the same spiritual pathway to God. Some of us are
44:32
ahead of others, some of us lagging behind, but we're all treading the
44:37
same path, and we will all get there eventually. And when we do,
44:44
we will no longer have to reincarnate. And that indeed happened to the
44:47
Buddha in his first sermon to his disciples, he said to them, this
44:53
is my last incarnation. It's almost as if we graduate school absolutely Victor.
45:02
Many of the d Years referred to earthly life as our university. We are
45:09
sent here to learn. If I can quote from a Taois proverb from chapter
45:16
twenty one of the Tao te Ching, life is a venturing forth. Death
45:23
is a returning home that encapsulates the essence of the near death experience. Our
45:32
individual experience is on earth that we create for ourselves through our free will,
45:39
the gift of free will. Those individual experiences are our classroom, and eventually
45:47
we ascend in the university of life to higher levels until we get that PhD
45:54
in spirituality or total communion with the Light, and as you shared earlier,
46:02
every question that we could possibly formulate, according to the ndears is answered before
46:08
they can even iterate the question. Well that's what I found so profound and
46:15
mind blowing, because I've always been a curious person and I tend to get
46:21
a bit frustrated or agitated if I can't find the answers to something. So
46:27
when I read this Indie accounts, I felt, oh, this is marvelous.
46:31
You know, when I'm in the world of spirit, all of my
46:36
questions are going to be answered, and there's no question without an accompanying answer.
46:42
So with the assistance of the Light, I will have omniscience, as
46:47
will all other soul consciousnesses. This is something really to look forward to.
46:53
I agree with you one percent. I'm looking forward to that for sure.
46:59
What lessons are shared about love and compassion, and especially love and compassion for
47:05
self, Well, it's important to love ourselves in these times. Many do
47:13
that, but in a narcissistic manner. But that's not what the End of
47:16
Years are saying. By loving yourself, you are to respect yourself and not
47:23
be judgmental or to condemn yourself. We are all human, we all make
47:30
mistakes, but if we keep dredging up the past and beating ourselves up over
47:36
it, we will not be able to let the light and love into our
47:43
lives, into our souls, and it will be much harder for us to
47:49
extend unconditional love and caring to other people. So that is the lesson there.
47:59
We are here really to learn what is unconditional love and have we manifested
48:08
it towards others? And one of the questions that we will be asked in
48:15
any life review is what did you do that was not motivated or actuated by
48:22
the prospect of personal gain? How did you love or care for others?
48:29
From a completely altruistic viewpoint, did you extend material and spiritual charity and caring
48:39
for others? And often we grizzle in life that we face so many challenges
48:46
and problems, but that's the way it's intended to be. And as one
48:52
end year said, when you have problems and challenges in your life, consider
49:00
it as an opportunity to discern what particular life lessons you were sent here to
49:07
absorb. Are these challenges to teach me to become a more loving and caring
49:14
person, to be more patient, to be more forgiving and so forth.
49:22
So that is also a very important lesson from the Indie Ears. It almost
49:29
sounds like a contemplation that would be related to karma. Yes, some of
49:38
the Indie Ears did refer to karma loosely called the law of cause and effect.
49:45
But if I can borrow from a biblical metaphor, they all say that
49:51
it is true what we reap, we sew, what we send forth into
49:59
the universe will be ultimately returned to us, for good or for bad.
50:07
So that was another universal law that was specifically identified by the End of Years,
50:15
the law of karma. Were there any other overarching themes about the nature
50:22
of energy, Well, energy connects us all, and actually, yes,
50:34
if I can borrow from an analogy from nature, many of the Indie Years
50:42
said that energy or consciousness runs through everything, all living things. So not
50:52
only do human beings have energy or consciousness, so do animals, so do
51:00
trees and plants, and that connects us all. And in fact, some
51:05
of the Indie Years said that they recalled running through heaven with their childhood dogs
51:13
beside them. Energy connects everything, and in fact, some of the Indie
51:19
Years said that Earth is our mother. It is our living organism. It
51:25
also has energy, and we must love and study nature closely and respect it.
51:34
And that another universal law is that all life, all consciousness, is
51:42
sacred and precious and must not be harmed, and that we must not take
51:49
from nature more than our basic needs require that can sustainably be produced. If
51:59
we don't that universal law, we do so humanity at our own peril.
52:07
How would that affect the beliefs about not consuming animal flesh, Well, that
52:15
is a very individual choice or decision and something that we should stay well away
52:23
from in terms of condemnation or being judgmental. It's very much a personal choice.
52:30
But my reading of the NDE accounts is that we should do not do
52:38
violence or harm to other sentient beings. That is a form of negative energy,
52:45
and if we do, we are bringing on a bit of negative energy
52:50
to us. But myself, I don't eat meat, but I'm a pesco
52:55
vegetarian. I do eat fish. It could well be that by doing so,
53:01
I lower my energy or vibration somewhat in doing so, and meat eaters
53:07
likewise, but that's a matter of speculation. But reading the NDE accounts,
53:15
that seems to be implied, but without any condemnation or judgment. What would
53:22
you like readers to take away from spiritual revelations from Beyond the Veil A number
53:29
of points, Victor. First of all, the NDI ears are unanimous that
53:37
physical death of our body is not to be feared. Our sole consciousness is
53:44
eternal and survives the death of our body in an absolutely beautiful after life awaits
53:54
us beautiful beyond description. Another Indie Year beautifully said, make a difference in
54:05
your life on earth. Give to the world more than you receive from it.
54:12
And finally, another Indie Year wisely said that what we regard on earth
54:22
as important, our material wealth, fame, these things are considered superficial,
54:30
irrelevant, and insignificant in the spiritual realms, and what we consider relatively minor
54:40
on earth, minor acts of kindness like opening a door for an elderly person,
54:47
we're feeding a stray cat. That these are considered in the spiritual realms
54:54
to be profound manifestations of love. So my message to your viewers would be
55:01
try to detach somewhat from worldly things and engage in doing small kindnesses to others.
55:12
Absolutely small acts of kindness go so far in this world of ours,
55:16
my guest Douglas Hodgson. His book is entitled Spiritual Revelations from Beyond the Veil
55:23
What Humanity can learn from the near death experience. Douglas, one more time,
55:29
please share with our listeners where they can get your books and find out
55:31
more about you. Yes, my book is available on Amazon USA, zero
55:39
books, dot Com, five Indie, virtually every online bookseller. Also should
55:50
be in several of the bricks and water bookshops Walmart included. I believe so
55:58
your listeners should have no difficulty purchasing it. Douglas. My gratitude to you
56:02
for this work that you've done and bringing it to our listeners into the world.
56:07
You're most welcome, Victor. It's been an absolute pleasure, and thank
56:10
you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor, the voice Furman of
56:16
a wonderful week.