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- 0:11[SPEAKER_02]: What's up everybody?
- 0:13[SPEAKER_02]: Another edition of Bears Overbears, but this one a little bit different playoff football Brian.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_02]: It's Ryan Drossie, Brian Oron, Chuck.
- 0:21[SPEAKER_02]: Brian, is this the first ever edition of Bears Overbears that talks playoff football?
- 0:25[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure because I can't remember when this podcast started.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh, it might be JB and EJ, you got to check us on that, but I think it might be because
- 0:40[SPEAKER_02]: is 20 and I don't think the show had started on a thing so either yeah well maybe there's some long-term bears overbears listeners I mean I used to listen to it too but I don't remember being on a 2020 I'm not positive though this may be the first ever bears overbears playoff edition as we get you ready for the Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers this Saturday at Soldier Field we also have a very special guest we're going to be bringing on here
- 1:05[SPEAKER_02]: and just a little bit that you're not going to want to miss and make sure you stay tuned in for that guys if you are in our chat tonight and you've brought a beverage it doesn't even have to be alcoholic but of course we like beer so if you're drinking let us know in the comments love to get you involved in the show super chats are open as always if you really want to support us and while you're here click that like button that helps us out a lot make sure you subscribe to the channel as well.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_02]: as we get you ready.
- 1:34[SPEAKER_02]: For something that Brian, we have been waiting a long time for the first home playoff game at Solzer Field in seven years.
- 1:44[SPEAKER_02]: Seven years Brian, we can finally get the double dunk out of our system this Saturday night.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel about this game just right up the bat and let me know what you drink tonight?
- 1:55[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I'm excited to share with you my drink, but I'm
- 2:02[SPEAKER_03]: yesterday of today, even early, about how I'm actually grateful.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited that we get the packers this week, because not only do we get to get our 97th win in the rivalry, try to even that record a little bit more.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_03]: But remember when Ben Johnson was hot, he said he really enjoyed
- 2:32[SPEAKER_03]: We've only beaten them once a year so far.
- 2:35[SPEAKER_03]: So this gives Ben an opportunity to make good on his word as well.
- 2:40[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm excited about that.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_03]: We need a little bit momentum in this rivalry.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_03]: This is going to give us that, right?
- 2:47[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people have been talking about the 2010 season when Jay got hurt.
- 2:52[SPEAKER_03]: BJ Raji had the pick six.
- 2:55[SPEAKER_03]: I believe it was Sam Shields sealed the game.
- 2:58[SPEAKER_03]: Not sure it might have been a different year either way.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_03]: That's the last time, and that was a whole game as well.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_03]: And FC Championship game, I believe, and, you know, bad taste in our mouth since then.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_03]: So these playoff rivalry games are next level.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_03]: And so, you know, what better opportunity to write the ship than with a playoff win?
- 3:20[SPEAKER_03]: So with that, I'll intro my beer.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_03]: I got special
- 3:27[SPEAKER_03]: local beer tonight, you're going to like this can or it might be better in person than it is on screen.
- 3:33[SPEAKER_03]: This is called burial brewery.
- 3:36[SPEAKER_03]: And this here, my man, is a skillet doughnut stout.
- 3:41[SPEAKER_03]: It's stout.
- 3:42[SPEAKER_03]: It's from burial.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_03]: And we will be celebrating the burial of 11, hopefully the cheese this weekend, the season, the 20, 25
- 3:58[SPEAKER_03]: for one team.
- 3:59[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm confident it's gonna be the season of Green Bay coming to a close, but with that, man, what do you got?
- 4:09[SPEAKER_02]: Where does I get?
- 4:10[SPEAKER_02]: Did you say skill it, don't it?
- 4:12[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, goodness.
- 4:15[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.
- 4:16[SPEAKER_02]: That is dark, I love it.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that is a great winter beer, right?
- 4:20[SPEAKER_02]: That is an excellent, excellent choice.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh, it's good.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_02]: Um, all right.
- 4:24[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I got.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_02]: This is a local one.
- 4:26[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's an all-time classic here in Eastern Iowa.
- 4:29[SPEAKER_02]: This is sold Chicago as well.
- 4:31[SPEAKER_02]: And it's from toppling Goliath brewing company.
- 4:36[SPEAKER_02]: King Sue, the double india pale ale by top and glith out of decor Iowa, you're an outdoorsy guy, Brian.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_02]: If you ever get into eastern Iowa, you're going to have to go up to decor, the bluffs of the Mississippi River.
- 4:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's a beautiful place.
- 4:49[SPEAKER_02]: They make great beers.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_02]: This is honestly one of the best breweries in the entire country.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_02]: And they started out their first kind of hit beer was called Sudo Su, which also had Su, the dinosaur on it, and then they got into some legal trouble because, of course, here's your Chicago connection, Su, the dinosaur, the field museum, right?
- 5:09[SPEAKER_02]: So now on the cans.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_02]: They got the Field Museum Chicago logo.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they have to give them some of the profits or what it says, brewing up history with the Field Museum.
- 5:19[SPEAKER_02]: And they serve this beer at the Field Museum.
- 5:22[SPEAKER_02]: Right, it's free from soldiers.
- 5:23[SPEAKER_03]: They'll be us and be at their collaboration right there.
- 5:26[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good collaboration.
- 5:28[SPEAKER_02]: It was their last summer, and I had, and I've had this beer for years.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I got a bio on that field museum.
- 5:34[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's a great collaboration.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, this is a double IPA.
- 5:39[SPEAKER_02]: It is, I'll just read you the description.
- 5:43[SPEAKER_02]: This full-bodied, hazy double IPA has notes of juicy mango, orange, and pineapple from the Citrohops and finishes with a grapefruit aroma.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_02]: It is,
- 5:54[SPEAKER_02]: It's delicious.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say it's like eight or nine percent eight point eight point two percent and yes indeed as I'm going to show you here.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_02]: Since I'm an eye when just like JB brood and beautiful.
- 6:05[SPEAKER_02]: The core Iowa.
- 6:07[SPEAKER_03]: Nice, yes, mine is eight percent as well, which is somewhat unusual for a stout usually they're a little bit lower, but yeah man cheers.
- 6:19[SPEAKER_02]: or this out.
- 6:20[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds delicious.
- 6:21[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds right at my alley.
- 6:22[SPEAKER_03]: A double IPA hazy with those citrus notes.
- 6:26[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it looks like orange juice.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that looks good.
- 6:30[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of stuff.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_02]: And our guests will be drinking with us as well.
- 6:33[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll have him do his beer when he comes out also.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_03]: Man, that's good.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
- 6:41[SPEAKER_03]: Cheers, indeed.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_02]: real quick story about this beer and then I promise we'll talk bears football, but I think the reason people like to show us we talk a little beer too.
- 6:51[SPEAKER_02]: So this beer used to be nearly impossible to get.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they sell it in tall boys now.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_02]: They used to only sell it in bomber bottles, like 22 ounce bottles.
- 6:59[SPEAKER_02]: And when this brewery started, it was so limited because it was small.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_02]: like the delivery truck to get a hold of it.
- 7:08[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't have a distributor, they would deliver it in this truck with their logo on the side and they'd come down like to where I live, which is about a hour and a half from Decora.
- 7:16[SPEAKER_02]: And if you saw, you better follow that truck to the liquor store to get it.
- 7:20[SPEAKER_02]: And King Sue, this one was ridiculously hard to get.
- 7:23[SPEAKER_02]: And one day, I was at their brewery with a few buddies.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_02]: And they brought in cases of King Sue and the bomber bottles while we were sitting there.
- 7:32[SPEAKER_02]: And at first we went up there and we bought like a couple of bottles because they were a little pricey back then and we had a couple more drinks and we're like, you know, you can go get a couple more by the time we left the brewery that day, we had all bought a case.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_02]: 22 outs king Sue bottles.
- 7:49[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very grateful I could just get in the liquor store now and it's made in plentiful amounts nice.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's fun.
- 7:55[SPEAKER_03]: We're trying that one next time our pads cross in person.
- 7:58[SPEAKER_02]: Carl in the chat.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_02]: Have you guys tried Patrick Mannelly's long snap or IPA?
- 8:02[SPEAKER_02]: I have.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_02]: We used to get it here.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't gotten a long time.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_02]: But the first time I saw it, I bought it from when I recall maybe like a little pioneer IPA for sure than this one.
- 8:14[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't like the golden kind of like orange juicy juicy IPA but definitely more a little more bitterness to it.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I liked it.
- 8:21[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was pretty good.
- 8:22[SPEAKER_03]: I like the pine notes, so Carl, you're going to have to hold one of those for me, man, tell me where to get him, might have to get Patrick on the show, the man to myth the mullet, got to get him on here, he's making IPAs in his name, and he's perfect for this crowd.
- 8:41[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
- 8:43[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's get back to this Packers game.
- 8:45[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about beer for long enough.
- 8:47[SPEAKER_02]: I think we got to talk bears, Packers.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of felt like we all just knew this was coming now for the last couple of weeks.
- 8:55[SPEAKER_02]: I almost felt like it was destined after we beat them on December 20th, which I don't think we did a show that week because obviously it was the holidays and that was one of the few weeks we have a done a show this season.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_02]: We never really
- 9:09[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so hopefully next week, we can celebrate a victory over the Packers on the show.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what happens, but it's definitely field destined ever since that moment in time.
- 9:19[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, the way this last weekend played out.
- 9:22[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously our predictions were wrong.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_02]: It was a bummer of a game against Detroit.
- 9:26[SPEAKER_02]: But then you're checking that score with the eagles, and you're like, well, it's still gonna happen.
- 9:32[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
- 9:33[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, man, what's going through your mind right now?
- 9:36[SPEAKER_02]: Because I mean, I'm sure just like me, you've been watching all the press conferences, and you've been watching all the podcast, you're in Second City, Gridiron, and elsewhere, just trying to buy your time for this weekend, but you also kind of have that nervous energy.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_02]: I feel, that's how I feel at least, how are you doing over there in North Carolina?
- 9:58[SPEAKER_03]: definitely disappointed with our performance on Sunday against Detroit.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_03]: And that has left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
- 10:06[SPEAKER_03]: It's left me with a little concern.
- 10:09[SPEAKER_03]: We're guarding, especially our defense, but also our offense.
- 10:13[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I didn't feel like anybody played a particularly good game last week.
- 10:20[SPEAKER_03]: Anybody, really.
- 10:21[SPEAKER_03]: And so,
- 10:25[SPEAKER_03]: disappointed in that because we had obviously a big let down, it was a solid game, especially for the offense that we prior against San Francisco.
- 10:33[SPEAKER_03]: We're hoping to amend that loss at tough divisional loss with a winnable game against a winnable alliance hobbled alliance team.
- 10:44[SPEAKER_03]: And we
- 10:46[SPEAKER_03]: And so, you know, that has me a little bit concerned, the way that they, I mean, just simply picked us apart in the passing game, got what they wanted.
- 10:55[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't score, you know, what, but 19 points, but, you know, we couldn't do anything on them.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_03]: I think the game script got away from us a little bit, which we would ram more.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, there's all this talk, as you've heard, as everybody has heard about, you know, was he kind of holding his cards close to the best, not really showing anything, playing it.
- 11:16[SPEAKER_03]: And he even said he had a simple game plan.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_03]: Was that by design for, you know, in preparation of this week?
- 11:24[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
- 11:25[SPEAKER_03]: But what I do know is the effort from the players was disappointing, left something to be desired.
- 11:33[SPEAKER_03]: And so,
- 11:34[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we've been talking all season long, right?
- 11:38[SPEAKER_03]: And it took us a few weeks, but it soon turned around where we had confidence in the coaching staff, and how they would address the players, make corrections, and bounce back.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, shoot, the first line's a game we had.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_03]: The loss too straight, then we went on a run, just like, we had said we would.
- 11:59[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, this is different.
- 12:01[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm really excited to see how Ben has the players and the coaches prepared for a playoff game.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_03]: I love what he said about, like, you know, he told the team, if you, if you're ready for a vacation, you got your play, you just don't even come in, right?
- 12:18[SPEAKER_03]: They give you if you're looking forward to the offseason right now don't come in because we have a five week season right now that you have to be all in for it.
- 12:25[SPEAKER_03]: I believe he is all in.
- 12:28[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm I think this is going to get even ramp up a level of Ben and the staff and the players we've not seen yet.
- 12:36[SPEAKER_03]: So because of that I'm excited, but I'll tell you man that Detroit game has me a little bit nervous.
- 12:42[SPEAKER_02]: I know, like, you know, watching it was so disappointing.
- 12:45[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously the defensive performance horrendous.
- 12:48[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it just, it was like Jared golf was playing a nice, an easy game of catch with his receivers all day long.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_02]: And Jalen obviously coming back from a serious injury, but does not look like himself whatsoever.
- 13:01[SPEAKER_02]: Nation is very much a boomer bus to player.
- 13:04[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about it on the show all year.
- 13:06[SPEAKER_02]: He gets a lot of picks He's not great in coverage otherwise, and that's really been shown in the last couple of weeks.
- 13:12[SPEAKER_02]: He's definitely been targeted
- 13:14[SPEAKER_02]: And so, I mean, I'm worried about that, no question about it, but at the same time, you know, talk about Ben, but don't break.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_02]: They were able to clamp down in the red zone, which they have been decent at.
- 13:26[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think if you look at that point total, going into the game, if I told you that, you know, we were going to hold Detroit to, what was it, 19 points?
- 13:36[SPEAKER_02]: You would have thought the bear is going to win the game, because I think on the preview last week, we each had them, the bears in the thirties, and I think I had that, I think I had to try 17 points or something like that.
- 13:49[SPEAKER_02]: So it was right around what I expected in the score.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_02]: It was just that the offense, the Chicago offense didn't come through.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it's just, you think about this Packers game, you know, a lot's been written a lot has been said about how
- 14:06[SPEAKER_02]: And
- 14:08[SPEAKER_02]: And some ways it makes me nervous in other ways, I feel I want to look at it with the glass half full and say, well, but they also, they had just haven't put together a good game and they still could have swept them this year.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_02]: So what does that say, you know, if they can come out and I, if you look at the, was it the game was at the first game at Lambo or I think it was the December 20th game where the bears went right down the field on their opening drive, but then they had the parent snap.
- 14:37[SPEAKER_02]: And turned it over and you know that that basically derailed all the momentum.
- 14:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was in Chicago because you could feel the crowd kind of die after that.
- 14:46[SPEAKER_02]: I feel that if we can actually score an opening drive right away, take the lead, I think that crowd will be so amped up and that will carry through that that will carry the bears all the way through the game.
- 14:58[SPEAKER_02]: If they get behind in this game again, I'm going to be pretty worried to be quite honest with you, just given the performance of our defense.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yes, Green Bay is very banged up, but they still got a lot of talent to do as it can make place.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we could also talk about the forecast because that's gonna be a storyline going in this game, supposed to snow one Saturday.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_02]: I just checked the weather a little bit ago.
- 15:20[SPEAKER_02]: So it's snowing the morning and afternoon.
- 15:22[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure about evening, but there's gonna be snow on the ground.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, I can impact what this game looks like, whether it's a heavy run game or through the air.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_02]: So,
- 15:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree with you.
- 15:32[SPEAKER_02]: I was a little disappointed.
- 15:33[SPEAKER_02]: The bears got away from the run last week.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_02]: They just dominated the line of skirmish against the Packers in the second half up at Lambo in that first game this year.
- 15:43[SPEAKER_02]: So if they get heavily concentrated on that, push them around, no micoparsons get some scores early.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_02]: Then I'll be feeling pretty good.
- 15:51[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I still, the fan and me wants to be like, look, we haven't put together a good game against them.
- 15:57[SPEAKER_02]: Ben always talks about how we haven't put together a full game in any game this year.
- 16:01[SPEAKER_02]: And that's true, but especially so against Green Bay.
- 16:04[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we really did not perform well against them, and still somehow walked away splitting with them and almost sweeping them.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, no I.
- 16:14[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it's, man, it's, you know, we talked about last game and we, we jumped out, last game against the Packers, we jumped out with the momentum and it was just like a little play here, penalty there that extended one of their drives or or installed one of ours or drop pass, but we had the momentum starting the game.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_03]: and we were moving the ball.
- 16:37[SPEAKER_03]: And then that's the one with the air snap over my known guy.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know if you're talking about that one of the ones revoked their game.
- 16:43[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, that those little type of place where we kind of gave them back control.
- 16:50[SPEAKER_03]: And people like to conveniently talk about how.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_03]: Things bounce their way at the end of the game, we were lucky to have win, but they don't like to talk about how we had the momentum to start, and that was our game, the feel of it, offense and defense was ours, and we kind of gave it to them.
- 17:05[SPEAKER_03]: We can't do that this week.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're going to get most likely Zack Tom back their best offensive linemen, but they didn't have him last time we played them.
- 17:15[SPEAKER_03]: And they've got guys coming back healthy, Jordan loves you to be healthy.
- 17:18[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to leave Willis who I actually am more scared of but we'll not be playing.
- 17:22[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like thankfully, but you know, I want the packers to be a full strength when we beat them.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_03]: I like this is at the fan in me, the bitter, you know, just burned bears fan by the packers over the years, wants
- 17:38[SPEAKER_03]: to pay them back, you know, in this fashion with no excuses, you know, and I think smash mouth footballs were to do it.
- 17:47[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean, you said it, you know, Jalen didn't look healthy.
- 17:52[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about this off the air over the week.
- 17:54[SPEAKER_03]: We have some guys that have been coming back from injury.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_03]: like Tremaine Evans, even TJ didn't come back too long ago, who should be getting full strength.
- 18:04[SPEAKER_03]: And I was kind of disappointed, discouraged a bit by what Jaylen said, I think it was today.
- 18:09[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, yeah, I'm not going to be fully healthy until the office.
- 18:12[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, well, bro, if you can't, if you can't do your job, you shouldn't be in there.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_03]: get Ty Reak in there.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_03]: I will say, I don't know if you if you saw this in my game after day after notes, but I but I I loved what I saw from Jaylin for the first time I think maybe ever in run support.
- 18:30[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he came up and he set the edge, he had a couple stuffs, one on the third and short that was huge and he actually looked physical and better in run support.
- 18:38[SPEAKER_03]: But they just had those, you know, crossers and drags all day and man coverage that got open.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_03]: And then they had wide open zones to pick apart.
- 18:45[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't I don't know what we need to do differently.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_03]: What we can do differently rather to to close up some of those zones or tighten up our coverage.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_03]: But I do think Connor Gordon's going to help.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 18:59[SPEAKER_03]: You know him being back.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_03]: Again, he's not going to be a hundred percent full speed either, but you were at one of the games he played.
- 19:07[SPEAKER_03]: He only played three this year.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_03]: Can you believe that?
- 19:10[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 19:10[SPEAKER_03]: He only played crazy.
- 19:10[SPEAKER_03]: He games this year.
- 19:12[SPEAKER_03]: Washington, New Orleans, and Philly, and we want all three.
- 19:17[SPEAKER_03]: And his impact on defense is undeniable.
- 19:21[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm eager to see what he can bring, what element he could bring from a coverage standpoint and blitzing, but we know that CJ Garbage Johnson is an adequate blitzer in the same vein as Kyler as well.
- 19:35[SPEAKER_03]: So from a coverage standpoint, if he's healthy enough, I think he's going to add something to our team.
- 19:41[SPEAKER_03]: But we need some turnover's man, we need to run the ball.
- 19:45[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it's going to be a big, weak man.
- 19:48[SPEAKER_03]: I hope it does, though, that's going to be fun.
- 19:50[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just as weird nervous energy because if they lose to Green Bay, you don't want it to like, derail how you feel about the bears.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_02]: You might for a little while, maybe for a 24 hours or so, but then if that happens, God forbid, I don't want that to happen, obviously.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_02]: But if that happens,
- 20:09[SPEAKER_02]: I think after some perspective people who I look, we're still kind of a year arriving a year early, we got on the playoffs, got some experience.
- 20:16[SPEAKER_02]: That'll all be good.
- 20:18[SPEAKER_02]: But dude, if we win this game and then we bow to a team like the Rams or the Niners or something, I'd just personally, it would feel so much better because it's just like, yeah, I mean, we didn't expect this really this year.
- 20:29[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't expect them to make the playoffs, at least you and I did, but we thought wild card, we didn't see division title.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_02]: It's just that it's the Packers and it's, you know, all the smack talk and stuff, all the social media takes, all the radio takes, obviously we want to get that win.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you mentioned that NFC title game back in the day.
- 20:47[SPEAKER_02]: Now, of course, side note, we didn't have our starting quarterback for half the game.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not sure accounts, according to Green Bay Packers fans, but.
- 20:57[SPEAKER_02]: Good Lord, man.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to go long time to get over using by seven at home with Caleb Haney playing half the game.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_02]: I will always feel we've taught us in the pot before I have always feel like the bears should have won the Super Bowl that year and if Jaden get hurt, they would have that's just such a frustrating one and I feel like this is the chance not just that game.
- 21:19[SPEAKER_02]: to finally get the taste of that out of my mouth, 15 years later, but also just to really signal that this rivalry is in a new position.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, we've split with them the last two years.
- 21:33[SPEAKER_02]: All the games have been very close.
- 21:35[SPEAKER_02]: Literally, like the last four games have all been decided based on the last play of the game, for two years, that's crazy.
- 21:41[SPEAKER_02]: How close these games have been.
- 21:42[SPEAKER_02]: So it is essentially a toss-up.
- 21:44[SPEAKER_02]: But if the bears walk away with this one, they take the series lead in the playoffs again because the teams are one and one in the playoffs right now, historically, and really it's just the fact that you can end their season, I think then the bears really are starting to have bragging rights again are being in the conversation of, look, you don't own us anymore, you know, so.
- 22:06[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_03]: No, absolutely.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's the way to do it.
- 22:09[SPEAKER_03]: This is a way to end the season to add to the rivalry, bring it back into our favor.
- 22:14[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we talk about momentum within games.
- 22:18[SPEAKER_03]: There's also momentum within rivalries.
- 22:20[SPEAKER_03]: And you could feel it shifting.
- 22:23[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it happened last year, last week of the season when we won in Green Bay.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_03]: You could feel it shifting.
- 22:30[SPEAKER_03]: You know, all of a sudden,
- 22:31[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're they're they're talking about us and to us fans are differently than they have past.
- 22:38[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, you see people talk about our quarterback.
- 22:40[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait, maybe he is legit.
- 22:42[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my gosh, maybe that coaches, but you know, other offensive line, this and that, um, and they start talking me as did you see that one comparison of Austin Booker, being just, I mean, like he, it was not nearly
- 22:59[SPEAKER_03]: as the packer on on the funky QV gym man back in the day was it Charles.
- 23:05[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, the Charles Martin hit.
- 23:07[SPEAKER_02]: And that's like arguably the dirtiest hit in the history of the NFL.
- 23:10[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was several seconds after he didn't have the ball anymore.
- 23:13[SPEAKER_02]: He had to hit list on his on his towel with number nine on it.
- 23:17[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the dirtiest plays ever.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_03]: He penned his arm in while he slammed his head on the on the on the cold hard old school turf.
- 23:24[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, the booker went in, his head was low, but his head was actually in the chest and we talked about this love lowered his head.
- 23:32[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, he lowered his head into the head.
- 23:34[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't there was clearly no intent on that hit, right?
- 23:37[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely not there's no question and you saw the Packers players talking about that hit this week.
- 23:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 23:43[SPEAKER_02]: It was not a dirty hit.
- 23:44[SPEAKER_02]: It sucks that it happened.
- 23:45[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to see Jordan love get hurt either.
- 23:47[SPEAKER_02]: It was not a dirty hit.
- 23:48[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're lying to yourself or you're making yourself look like you don't know ball if you think that that was a dirty hit.
- 23:53[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't a dirty hit whatsoever.
- 23:55[SPEAKER_02]: Who was the former player that was on Twitter after that talking about it?
- 23:59[SPEAKER_02]: Um, what was it?
- 24:01[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't a bear's, but yeah, that's, yeah, of St. J. Watt, right?
- 24:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 24:05[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, you whoever was complaining about it.
- 24:08[SPEAKER_02]: I can't clearly have never played football because there was nothing wrong with that hit.
- 24:12[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 24:14[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, anyways, some of the thrash talk going around, we got, I mean, finally some of this trash talk is is kicking in from the players.
- 24:22[SPEAKER_02]: We got today, Kishan Nixon, I didn't want anybody but the bears he said.
- 24:28[SPEAKER_02]: Christian Watson said, we have a chance to end the bear season.
- 24:31[SPEAKER_02]: That means a lot.
- 24:33[SPEAKER_02]: And then,
- 24:34[SPEAKER_02]: Josh Jacobs quote, I know a lot of guys took that hit that he took a little personal Jordan love it.
- 24:41[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not saying we're going to go out there and play dirty or nothing like that, but we definitely going to defend our brother.
- 24:47[SPEAKER_02]: Josh Jacobs is out to lunch.
- 24:48[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what this guy's talking about.
- 24:50[SPEAKER_02]: It was in a dirty hit.
- 24:51[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Kishan Nixon hit on DJ Moore was a far dirty or hit straight in the back.
- 24:58[SPEAKER_02]: No fine.
- 24:59[SPEAKER_02]: The best of my knowledge on that one either.
- 25:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so, um, I mean, this is what you expect, though.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_02]: This is what you want to see.
- 25:08[SPEAKER_02]: We want to see the trash talk.
- 25:09[SPEAKER_02]: I give the bears bolt and board material.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, in some ways, the bears lose in these last two games.
- 25:17[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to motivate him.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_02]: If you watch, if you have watched these press conferences this week, they're angry.
- 25:22[SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to be an advantage, I think.
- 25:25[SPEAKER_02]: You know, rather than going into the playoffs, feeling like you're on a roll and everything's good, I feel like they're refocused now.
- 25:31[SPEAKER_02]: They're angry.
- 25:32[SPEAKER_02]: They don't like the way that Detroit game went.
- 25:35[SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to take it out on Green Bay, Brian, or at least I hope so.
- 25:38[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was hoping for the same type of energy this past week against Detroit, but hopefully even more so this week.
- 25:47[SPEAKER_03]: And I do think the intensities will ratchet it up a little bit
- 25:54[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean, you want to you want to bring our guests in.
- 25:57[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it.
- 25:58[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a very, very special guest joining us right now.
- 26:02[SPEAKER_02]: Brian will help introduce him as well as Brian definitely set this up.
- 26:06[SPEAKER_02]: But I am familiar.
- 26:07[SPEAKER_02]: I read the article on Chicago Bears.com tonight about him.
- 26:11[SPEAKER_02]: But Jonathan on was awarded by the Bears, the 2025 Chicago Bears fan of the year.
- 26:19[SPEAKER_02]: And he joins us now on Bears Overbears.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan, how are you doing tonight?
- 26:24[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not standing right, how are you doing?
- 26:26[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good.
- 26:27[SPEAKER_02]: Very good, this beer's going down well, I'm feeling good.
- 26:29[SPEAKER_03]: I guess so.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_03]: So Jonathan, first of all, congratulations.
- 26:34[SPEAKER_03]: Living every fan's dream to be the fan of the year for the beloved clear that you have a nice little man cave set up, I actually had that poster back in the day.
- 26:47[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, nice.
- 26:47[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're about the same age of three of us.
- 26:49[SPEAKER_03]: I got to be about the same age.
- 26:52[SPEAKER_03]: We're on our 40s, I don't know about you,
- 26:54[SPEAKER_03]: 40 tail.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 26:55[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 26:56[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 26:56[SPEAKER_02]: Turn 42 next weekend.
- 26:58[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 26:58[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, the bears move on to the divisional playoffs that might be on my birth at the 17th.
- 27:03[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.
- 27:03[SPEAKER_02]: When they do.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 27:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 27:06[SPEAKER_02]: When they do.
- 27:06[SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
- 27:08[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, congrats on that man.
- 27:09[SPEAKER_03]: That's super exciting.
- 27:11[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I know you have a lot going on.
- 27:14[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I curious to hear your story.
- 27:17[SPEAKER_03]: How you got this honor.
- 27:20[SPEAKER_03]: So let's start there kind of intro yourself.
- 27:22[SPEAKER_03]: to our crew with your drink of choice for the evening if you don't mind sharing.
- 27:30[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
- 27:30[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
- 27:31[SPEAKER_00]: So I've already poured, I've been listening to the show.
- 27:35[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm originally from Michigan, just around the corridor area.
- 27:38[SPEAKER_00]: So I picked up a eastern market brewing company, winter blossom.
- 27:45[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 27:45[SPEAKER_00]: It's a blind ale.
- 27:48[SPEAKER_00]: fruit right down in the heart of Detroit.
- 27:51[SPEAKER_00]: So most people are wondering how the heck did Michiganer become bear span of a year.
- 27:57[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes I asked myself that question too, but the reality of this, I've been a bear span of a whole life here, rooted in lions country.
- 28:06[SPEAKER_00]: My parents are from Illinois, both of them are.
- 28:09[SPEAKER_00]: And I had a choice as a kid, and I clearly chose the bears.
- 28:13[SPEAKER_00]: I got a lot of family in Illinois, and I said, drive back.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_00]: Quite a bit as a kid and visit the city and visit the greater Chicago area.
- 28:22[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was bears at early age, and I never looked back.
- 28:27[SPEAKER_00]: Very cool.
- 28:28[SPEAKER_02]: And you were, so you got the honors as Bears family year, and then they brought you to the game against the giants, was it?
- 28:34[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was really special.
- 28:37[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so part of being selected, you know, they looked at my whole history and I think big part of it was those in the military.
- 28:45[SPEAKER_00]: It was a submarine officer around the USS Michigan, served nine years in the Navy.
- 28:50[SPEAKER_00]: And so where am I, salute to service shirt here tonight?
- 28:54[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned that, I'll answer the question, but you answered that NFC championship game.
- 29:01[SPEAKER_00]: It was under water for that game.
- 29:02[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get to watch it.
- 29:04[SPEAKER_00]: We came up to Periscope Dab.
- 29:06[SPEAKER_00]: And we got the news at, like, Jake Huller had tours, I'm C.L.
- 29:09[SPEAKER_00]: or something, and then we lost.
- 29:12[SPEAKER_00]: And I just never got over that game.
- 29:15[SPEAKER_00]: I still haven't.
- 29:17[SPEAKER_00]: But that was part of it.
- 29:18[SPEAKER_00]: See, the beers brought me back to the Giants game.
- 29:22[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go with my oldest son, Raymond.
- 29:24[SPEAKER_00]: He's nine, just an incredible experience.
- 29:27[SPEAKER_00]: I'm field tickets, Colson Lovelin came up and gave us a little interaction.
- 29:34[SPEAKER_00]: Noah's soul came over and took a photo with my son.
- 29:38[SPEAKER_00]: It was just incredible access, it really was.
- 29:40[SPEAKER_00]: And the bears were just first class the whole way.
- 29:44[SPEAKER_00]: And then they announced me as the fan of the year on the field and gave us a super bowl ticket, which is hanging over on my right shoulder.
- 29:53[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, nice.
- 29:55[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
- 29:56[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
- 30:00[SPEAKER_01]: That's wild.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's super wild.
- 30:04[SPEAKER_03]: Gosh man, that makes me excited for this game that you're not underwater this weekend and you don't watch it, man.
- 30:12[SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be better.
- 30:13[SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be better than that experience.
- 30:14[SPEAKER_03]: I will say the first half was kind of like we said.
- 30:20[SPEAKER_03]: We controlled that game.
- 30:21[SPEAKER_03]: I'm confident we would one that game won the Super Bowl.
- 30:23[SPEAKER_03]: The way it was going in the first half.
- 30:25[SPEAKER_03]: No, it was kind of reminiscent of our last game against them.
- 30:27[SPEAKER_03]: Where we kind of had the momentum.
- 30:29[SPEAKER_03]: We did quite put them away.
- 30:31[SPEAKER_03]: like we should have.
- 30:32[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the thing that we need to amend this week.
- 30:35[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, you appreciate your service first and foremost.
- 30:40[SPEAKER_03]: And in your loyalty, my history is not from Detroit, from all over the Northeast Midwest, but my older brothers are a lion's fan.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_03]: So now I'm used to Barry Sanders running circles around Chris's or it's very mentor and all the guys
- 31:01[SPEAKER_03]: you know, growing up and, you know, having watching, you know, Brett Farv and then Aaron Rodgers and Randy Moss and all the greats doing great things, Adrian Peterson against us and then double-doinking our opportunity away or, or, you know, not giving it to Thomas Jones and just throwing it and putting it in Rex's hands in the, in the monsoon in Miami, you know, and it's about time we're back to where we, we ought to be.
- 31:29[SPEAKER_03]: So that's very
- 31:31[SPEAKER_03]: Um, tell me a little bit about some of your favorite players of all.
- 31:36[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 31:37[SPEAKER_00]: Faber player is over my left shoulder there, Brian or Lacker.
- 31:41[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we've established we're about the same age, but coming in in high school and just having that guy get drafted there and actually got to see him in Plattsville.
- 31:51[SPEAKER_00]: In 99, we went up there and went to training camp.
- 31:54[SPEAKER_00]: My dad took me, and that was really special.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_00]: And you could just see it early on.
- 31:58[SPEAKER_00]: This guy was different and then he proved it.
- 32:02[SPEAKER_00]: It was really, really fun.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, Brian or Lacker is my favorite.
- 32:05[SPEAKER_00]: My wife always jokes when we went to the Hall of Fame induction.
- 32:10[SPEAKER_00]: My dad and I were there as well.
- 32:12[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, my wife is a very pregnant for that.
- 32:15[SPEAKER_00]: And uh, I was in that window, you know, and she's like, you almost missed this first part.
- 32:20[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, but I, I really wanted to be there for his, you know, his induction, uh, subriner lacquer is my all-time favorite bear, you know, and I think this year, Colson Lovelin, you know, he announced me as bears fan of the year, which is of course special.
- 32:38[SPEAKER_00]: He played at
- 32:42[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so familiar with what he had done here in Ann Arbor, but the way he's playing and the interactions with him at this year has just been first class.
- 32:54[SPEAKER_00]: He's quickly becoming my favorite player.
- 32:56[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Caleb, we finally have our franchise quarterback.
- 32:59[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God.
- 33:01[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I finally do and we don't even need to talk about all the other guys, just great point out of this one.
- 33:08[SPEAKER_03]: So tell me your thoughts, kind of about this season so far, Jonathan, give the listeners kind of your take on, you know, because we mentioned earlier, whether or not we win this game, it shouldn't deter from or detract, from how successful of a season it has been.
- 33:31[SPEAKER_03]: I think Ryan is well, you lose twice the packers and they not get to play off.
- 33:36[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be a pretty tough pill to swallow, even on a great season.
- 33:40[SPEAKER_03]: So what are your thoughts?
- 33:42[SPEAKER_03]: You know, obviously going through this honor of yours and also curious to know what you think of that below.
- 33:49[SPEAKER_03]: Dale, you're drinking and did you name your son after Brian or a lacquer?
- 33:55[SPEAKER_00]: Let's three collections.
- 33:56[SPEAKER_00]: All right, um, let's see.
- 33:58[SPEAKER_00]: The seasons in chronicle, yeah.
- 34:00[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, let's be honest.
- 34:01[SPEAKER_00]: I said, there's very few seasons that we can go back and just say this has been special in it.
- 34:06[SPEAKER_00]: You just felt it early on, right?
- 34:08[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that that 06 season that are the old, really, it was that the old 102s with, um, with the Mike Brown and the returns.
- 34:16[SPEAKER_00]: That that was the first season I remember just being that that really hit home, you know.
- 34:22[SPEAKER_00]: And then, and then we got that magic bag at 06
- 34:26[SPEAKER_00]: I was tracking it from a far in 2000, a lab 2010, 2011, and then 2018 was fun for sure.
- 34:35[SPEAKER_00]: But this is just different and it's different because that you can tell the leadership is there, but you know the quarterback is there.
- 34:44[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so the answer to the question of,
- 34:47[SPEAKER_00]: How do you feel about this year?
- 34:49[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it's badass.
- 34:52[SPEAKER_00]: We finally have the right pieces.
- 34:55[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's not this year, which it's going to be this year, I'm talking to doing the existence, then it's going to be not too far in the horizon.
- 35:04[SPEAKER_00]: I really believe that.
- 35:06[SPEAKER_00]: The beer is good, kind of tastes like an overrun or maybe like a blue moon with a little bit of a citrus.
- 35:17[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 35:17[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of the notes I'm picking up on that.
- 35:20[SPEAKER_02]: You guys got great breweries in Michigan.
- 35:23[SPEAKER_02]: My uncle was in Grand Rapids.
- 35:25[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
- 35:25[SPEAKER_02]: And I went there one time, I went to founders, one of my favorite breweries.
- 35:29[SPEAKER_02]: The brewery in the Grand Rapids is super cool too, but I mean, yeah, Bell's, you mentioned the Oberon.
- 35:35[SPEAKER_02]: Just Michigan's a great craft beer stage in general.
- 35:37[SPEAKER_00]: It really is really spoiled here with the amount of different breweries and whatnot.
- 35:47[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I also picked up an odd side ails on.
- 35:49[SPEAKER_00]: If you've heard of them, they have some really cool beers.
- 35:51[SPEAKER_00]: One's called the Bean Flicker, which is hilarious, and then it's called, and it's fantastic.
- 35:58[SPEAKER_00]: So I picked that up.
- 35:59[SPEAKER_00]: That was my, that was on my, maybe, my two picked up, but that was the other one.
- 36:05[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've mentioned it as a great beer market.
- 36:08[SPEAKER_00]: And the last question, let's see, that was, sorry, what was it?
- 36:13[SPEAKER_00]: You're your son, did you name?
- 36:14[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, son, yeah, no, no, we did not name Brian, it was, uh...
- 36:20[SPEAKER_00]: We got a brahement, a Zach Arena Jacob, pretty much all family names.
- 36:25[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's got, he's got no dick and no butt kiss, so you guys take you for what it's worth.
- 36:30[SPEAKER_03]: You know, maybe just, you know, give him one vote for, for family year, not three for each child.
- 36:37[SPEAKER_02]: So you got three boys then?
- 36:39[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, three.
- 36:40[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 36:41[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 36:43[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun though.
- 36:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's been really good.
- 36:45[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 36:46[SPEAKER_02]: Brian has four girls and I have three girls.
- 36:47[SPEAKER_02]: So you're balancing out the girl that's here.
- 36:50[SPEAKER_00]: That's funny.
- 36:50[SPEAKER_00]: And typically, you know, um, submariners don't have girls.
- 36:54[SPEAKER_00]: I'm bucking the trend in that regard.
- 36:56[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone always kind of relates it to the radiation exposure, but um, you know, fairly bucking the trend on that.
- 37:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's crazy.
- 37:04[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
- 37:05[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I've got one follow question.
- 37:07[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 37:07[SPEAKER_03]: And be as honest as you possibly can be, you mentioned, and I agree, we've got our quarterback.
- 37:15[SPEAKER_03]: When did you realize that that's the case?
- 37:18[SPEAKER_03]: How long have you felt that day one?
- 37:23[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I felt that I'll be honest with you.
- 37:25[SPEAKER_00]: I, and I'm not just saying this.
- 37:27[SPEAKER_00]: I, when when the Texans pulled off that miracle,
- 37:33[SPEAKER_00]: and Indy, I knew we had our quarterback.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_00]: I knew it, you know, you saw what he did in college and it's just a matter of time, right?
- 37:41[SPEAKER_00]: And even, you see some of the throws he had last year, even with all the interceptions and the low interception, number one, with all the sacks.
- 37:52[SPEAKER_00]: You just felt like he was,
- 37:55[SPEAKER_00]: you could see it, you just different the thinking, the throws, and then you pair that with the coaching in your life.
- 38:05[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is for real.
- 38:07[SPEAKER_00]: I don't say this to many people, but in my wife killed me at the time, but I went and bought one of those authentic helmets, and I don't like a big memorabilia guy, and it's a Caleb William signed authentic helmet, and she about killed me.
- 38:25[SPEAKER_00]: was I was I knew we finally had our franchise quarterback when they drafted them and and that's the way I felt once once that play half and we had the number once pick I knew they were going to take when I knew it was right back.
- 38:38[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's exciting.
- 38:39[SPEAKER_03]: That's really exciting.
- 38:41[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and we talked about this.
- 38:43[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think Ryan it was the first Packers game of the the pod leading up to that about various cubies records against the pack.
- 38:54[SPEAKER_03]: and we're not going to put you on the spot because we'd like you, but you might be surprised at the quarterbacks who are actually more successful against the Packers than others.
- 39:05[SPEAKER_03]: And Caleb has a chance to be one of the best, but obviously, you know, obviously from a record standpoint, you'll break the tie.
- 39:15[SPEAKER_03]: What's he now?
- 39:16[SPEAKER_03]: He's what?
- 39:17[SPEAKER_03]: Two and two right now, yeah.
- 39:25[SPEAKER_03]: play off.
- 39:27[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan, you said the teams are one and one, something small like that and play off games.
- 39:33[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the last one was what?
- 39:35[SPEAKER_02]: Like the 40s, 30s or 40s, the first time they played before the NFC title game?
- 39:39[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 39:41[SPEAKER_03]: How monumental would it be not only for the rivalry standpoint, but for the legacy standpoint of the quarterback that I agree with you, I believe in him from
- 39:54[SPEAKER_03]: We've been excited about him from day one and people can look at, you know, yards per attempt and all these advanced metrics from, from his stats is rookie year and his, his sacks and dropbacks, but if you watch the tape because and watch the game, we have watched all the quarterbacks 18 season.
- 40:14[SPEAKER_03]: We had your whiskey and you didn't say it, but that's what kind of made me not as confident in, in, in that season.
- 40:21[SPEAKER_03]: We had,
- 40:23[SPEAKER_03]: an amazing defense.
- 40:25[SPEAKER_03]: But our offense led by our quarterback, it was just, eh, wasn't quite sure about the limitations.
- 40:32[SPEAKER_03]: And even Jay, Jay, I think we could have won a suitable with, but he had his faults as well.
- 40:39[SPEAKER_03]: And, and, and Caleb, you know, he just, he doesn't turn the ball over.
- 40:43[SPEAKER_03]: He makes incredible plays with his arm and his legs, and he's a great leader, and,
- 40:49[SPEAKER_03]: And I think I think I love about him most.
- 40:51[SPEAKER_03]: So you saw it from his record breaking this year, leave leading six comebacks within the last two minutes, right?
- 41:00[SPEAKER_03]: He is clutch, like that clutch factor.
- 41:04[SPEAKER_03]: And so how does that run?
- 41:06[SPEAKER_03]: And how does that show up in the playoffs?
- 41:10[SPEAKER_03]: Because every second is clutching the playoffs.
- 41:14[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm excited to see that, but I'm with you, John, then I, excuse me, I was a believer from day one with this guy.
- 41:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the, so the very first time the Bears and Packers play in the playoffs, found the box score, looked it up.
- 41:28[SPEAKER_02]: It was the divisional round, trip to the NFL title game on the line.
- 41:32[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, Jonathan as a military guy, you'll appreciate this.
- 41:36[SPEAKER_02]: The game occurred on December 14th.
- 41:39[SPEAKER_02]: 1941.
- 41:39[SPEAKER_02]: Well, exactly one week after the Pearl Harbor attack.
- 41:44[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say week after Pearl Harbor.
- 41:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, wild.
- 41:47[SPEAKER_02]: And wow, I'm a US history teacher and, you know, obviously, you can World War II right now actually.
- 41:52[SPEAKER_02]: So when I saw that day, I was like, wow, week after that's why 33 to 14 bears won that one at Ridgly Field.
- 42:00[SPEAKER_02]: And then yeah, the NFC title game, 2010 season 21, 14 Packers.
- 42:04[SPEAKER_02]: So,
- 42:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got a chance, but yeah, to your guy's this point, I kind of felt too like we had the guy right when he got drafted some of this is definitely like the media and like the world we live in now even since when they had drafted Justin like when they drafted Justin fields he had been in some huge games right biggest games in college football.
- 42:26[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I still didn't feel the same about him.
- 42:29[SPEAKER_02]: It was different with Caleb.
- 42:30[SPEAKER_02]: Like he came in with some moxie about him.
- 42:32[SPEAKER_02]: He's already a superstar.
- 42:34[SPEAKER_02]: Some of that is the NIL and everything.
- 42:36[SPEAKER_02]: But I remember saying to some of my friends at the time who aren't Bear's fans.
- 42:40[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, this is super weird.
- 42:41[SPEAKER_02]: The Bear's just drafted guy who's already a superstar.
- 42:44[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna have celebrities at their games for this kid.
- 42:46[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't played a snap for the Bear's hit.
- 42:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a weird feeling.
- 42:50[SPEAKER_02]: And I was familiar with him.
- 42:51[SPEAKER_02]: I watched USC games, especially that last year, thinking it was possible the Bear's could draft him.
- 42:56[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, it's just something about his confidence, you know, when he talks about how he doesn't get nervous.
- 43:02[SPEAKER_02]: The only time we ever got nervous was I think the first game he played in high school or something.
- 43:07[SPEAKER_02]: I believe him when he says that, it's just he has this weird, cool factor about him where he just doesn't seem phase at all.
- 43:14[SPEAKER_02]: Every time they cut it to him on the sideline, doesn't look out of sorts at all.
- 43:18[SPEAKER_02]: He does seem angry right now, which I think is an advantage going into this game.
- 43:24[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I just, I don't, I never feel out of it with him.
- 43:27[SPEAKER_02]: And for him to be this early in his career, I just feel so good about where the next few years are going, especially while they still have him on a rookie deal, you know, to Jonathan's point, if it doesn't happen this year, I am also confident it's going to happen with him and that they will get to a Super Bowl within the next handful of years.
- 43:46[SPEAKER_02]: I think it will happen.
- 43:47[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like really confident in that.
- 43:49[SPEAKER_02]: The last time I was this confident about a Bears team advancing deep in the playoffs was before that O6 season, coming off of O5 when they had a great defense.
- 43:58[SPEAKER_02]: They lost the Panthers and the divisional round.
- 44:01[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like going into O6, they were going to go all the way.
- 44:04[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the NFC wasn't super strong.
- 44:06[SPEAKER_02]: The Bears looked dominant the year before.
- 44:09[SPEAKER_02]: I remember I went to family night at Soldier Field that year before the season started with my family.
- 44:14[SPEAKER_02]: And I was telling them all, like this is gonna be this team's going to the Super Bowl this year.
- 44:19[SPEAKER_02]: I took so many pictures of that night.
- 44:21[SPEAKER_02]: It could've been accurate.
- 44:22[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't win, but I sure got there and that was a heck of a memorable season.
- 44:26[SPEAKER_02]: And I definitely didn't have the confidence in the offense that I haven't this one.
- 44:31[SPEAKER_02]: I feel with, you know, they could get there this year.
- 44:33[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
- 44:34[SPEAKER_02]: I could feel, you know, I don't think it's the favorites as Bear's fans, obviously we feel like they could do it.
- 44:39[SPEAKER_02]: when they get grit by green bay I'll just join the language that you guys have been saying when they get by green bay you look at the way the playoffs could land here and you know I think it would be just crazy if the rams lost to Carolina but anything can happen didn't it they were lost to Carolina yeah yeah that's I mean to do it a second time would be wild but I mean it could I I mean certainly can happen they gotta go there they gotta go there again
- 45:07[SPEAKER_02]: So like, I mean, I could, I can envision a scenario in my head where bears be green bay.
- 45:14[SPEAKER_02]: And let's say they have to play the rams in the division around or something.
- 45:17[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like a snow storm as soldier field.
- 45:20[SPEAKER_02]: You know, LA's got to play in that.
- 45:21[SPEAKER_02]: They're already not as good outdoors in the cult.
- 45:24[SPEAKER_02]: Bears get by and then it's one game you just got to win one game and you know, and then let's say San Fran play Seattle and they I think that's this is the way it would go those two teams won San Fran like upset Seattle and then the bears are hosting the NFC title game it's another West Coast team that's played outside in the cold
- 45:43[SPEAKER_02]: advantage bearer.
- 45:44[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, there's scenarios where it could happen this year, but even beyond this year, I feel like man, we're going to address the defense in the offseason this year.
- 45:51[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about it on the shows in the offseason.
- 45:54[SPEAKER_02]: But when they can really make that a lethal unit to, in addition, this offense that has so many key players who are so young, I'm going to beat this team when they get that side of the ball up to part two is super exciting, regardless of how this weekend goes.
- 46:11[SPEAKER_03]: So that's where I'm at.
- 46:13[SPEAKER_03]: I talked, we talked earlier, Ryan before John joined us, but to me, the X-factor that can win us this game and give me confidence moving forward is Kyler Gordon, we've been highlighting him all season
- 46:31[SPEAKER_03]: goodness gracious and he's only played three games.
- 46:34[SPEAKER_03]: But the importance that he's had, and Des Allen alluded to it this week in, I think today, in press conferences, about how, you know, they've not been able to have them on the field much this season.
- 46:44[SPEAKER_03]: But before this season, he was one of the guys that they really felt, you know, he'd in on and highlighted.
- 46:52[SPEAKER_03]: He's one of the guys Ben Johnson highlighted in his opening press conference.
- 46:57[SPEAKER_03]: Then Kyler Gordon, Jonathan,
- 47:02[SPEAKER_03]: He's only played three games this year, but we won all three.
- 47:05[SPEAKER_03]: He brings that ex-factor to our defense.
- 47:10[SPEAKER_03]: He's run-stopping ability, his coverage ability, especially from the slot, those quick in-breaking routes.
- 47:17[SPEAKER_03]: He's the guy that can get his hands on those balls and tip him up to a tremendous
- 47:31[SPEAKER_03]: I think we went hand and I think we have a chance to run all the way, but if he gets how old, you know, CJ is not back, if we have to play Nick and McCloud for a healthy dose of snaps, then we're going to be in trouble, but it's going to take somebody stepping up.
- 47:48[SPEAKER_03]: That's what we were texting each other back and forth last week.
- 47:51[SPEAKER_03]: Who's going to step up, who's going to step up and make a play on defense?
- 48:00[SPEAKER_03]: Declan Doyle and that offense, Cole some lovely talk about, I followed him in Michigan too, Jonathan, he's been a stud, underused in college, but the bears didn't pay attention to that.
- 48:12[SPEAKER_03]: They saw what he had to work with and they snagged him at 10, much of the shagrin of a lot of people.
- 48:18[SPEAKER_03]: But real ball-knowers know what he had, what he brought to the table and now they're starting to see it.
- 48:23[SPEAKER_03]: But I have confidence our offense suffice to say.
- 48:27[SPEAKER_03]: Our defense is my question mark.
- 48:29[SPEAKER_03]: And Kyler is that kind of that peg that we need.
- 48:34[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I agree with that.
- 48:35[SPEAKER_00]: And out at, you know, the history of these packer games and we've all lived this, it's going to be that third down play.
- 48:43[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, La Flur is going to just throw the bomb.
- 48:46[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to do it.
- 48:47[SPEAKER_00]: it's going to happen.
- 48:49[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the difference in this game is, do we actually cover it for the first time in our life?
- 48:55[SPEAKER_00]: And the answer is going to be, yeah, we are.
- 49:00[SPEAKER_00]: We have to, you know it's coming and we have to stop at third down bomb.
- 49:06[SPEAKER_00]: And as far as getting the ball, you know, on offense, if we've run it, then they're not stopping them.
- 49:13[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the bear's offense runs through that running game.
- 49:17[SPEAKER_00]: My non-guy and Swift have been studs behind that offensive line.
- 49:22[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really like what the lion's did, you know, running the ball with my gummering gives on that offensive line last five years.
- 49:32[SPEAKER_00]: If you can control the ball, which the bear's poor not able to do the last two games against the
- 49:43[SPEAKER_00]: I think it then dictates how the bears can control that game.
- 49:49[SPEAKER_00]: But I think the running game is going to be equally as important as stop and third down.
- 49:54[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 49:55[SPEAKER_03]: Now we got her on the ball.
- 49:56[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan and I talked about that before you hop down.
- 49:59[SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be a focal point.
- 50:01[SPEAKER_03]: And you know,
- 50:03[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you believe, I don't know if I believe the idea that Ben was playing vanilla and holding this car is not showing extra in that same vein you have to imagine maybe he wasn't running, I think they ran 18 runs last week.
- 50:20[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, each running back should get around 18 runs every game in my opinion.
- 50:26[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe that was to keep the offensive line and the running back's fresh because he's playing pound in the rock.
- 50:33[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't believe any of that because why would you play your starters if you weren't going to play him all the way?
- 50:38[SPEAKER_03]: But we do need to run the rock and we do need to see more decals in here, more decals popping off the Packers helmets from our guys running over them.
- 50:51[SPEAKER_03]: And we're big fans of both running backs, but Swift is the one that has gotten a lot more hate mailed than the Monongai over the past year.
- 51:00[SPEAKER_03]: But he loves beaten up on Packers too.
- 51:03[SPEAKER_03]: He's been a thorn in the packers side last few times we play them.
- 51:07[SPEAKER_03]: So run games going to be huge play action is going to be huge But that you said third down collar Gordon who's going to make a play and I can't wait.
- 51:18[SPEAKER_03]: Where do you watch your games Jonathan?
- 51:21[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, of late, I think it's fortunate not to go to Soldier Field the last few times.
- 51:28[SPEAKER_00]: So I befriended some friends at the tailgates and have been doing my best networking as I can.
- 51:37[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been able to go to Brown's game, the Giant's Game and the Lion's Game, which is really special.
- 51:42[SPEAKER_00]: Well, prior to that, it's been frankly years.
- 51:46[SPEAKER_00]: I did take my song, Raymond, you can see that was the,
- 51:50[SPEAKER_00]: Justin Fields game of their own game that was his first game so that was real special to do that.
- 51:59[SPEAKER_00]: But the answer to the question, usually it's just in my living room.
- 52:02[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm kind of one of those, um,
- 52:04[SPEAKER_00]: It's very few things that I love as much as the bears.
- 52:08[SPEAKER_00]: When the bears play, I kind of turn into a different person that has that word.
- 52:13[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes that's just best to be left alone.
- 52:16[SPEAKER_00]: So usually just watch it with my kids.
- 52:19[SPEAKER_00]: I understand.
- 52:20[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 52:22[SPEAKER_03]: If anybody understands, it's us too.
- 52:25[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 52:25[SPEAKER_03]: You get it.
- 52:26[SPEAKER_03]: And then, hey, can I just finish my last sip?
- 52:29[SPEAKER_03]: But can I just cheers to the two of you?
- 52:33[SPEAKER_03]: for being die-hards and still having a marriage.
- 52:37[SPEAKER_03]: Cheers, that's absolutely.
- 52:40[SPEAKER_02]: I'm texting Brian during the games and swearing, and just, yeah, yeah, well, my life.
- 52:47[SPEAKER_03]: We had some friends over last week.
- 52:49[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, cause it, maybe it's a week prior, cause it was prime time.
- 52:54[SPEAKER_03]: And my wife said to our French, she's like, wait, you've never seen football bride have you.
- 53:01[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what do you mean?
- 53:02[SPEAKER_01]: All right, be quiet.
- 53:05[SPEAKER_03]: I totally get it.
- 53:07[SPEAKER_03]: We all relate.
- 53:07[SPEAKER_03]: If you can relate in the chat, and give us a cheers emoji.
- 53:15[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that's where we're at.
- 53:17[SPEAKER_03]: I can't be in my living room, Jonathan, because I've got four verals, and they come and dear to the living room, television.
- 53:22[SPEAKER_03]: So I am now in my room, has become my man cave.
- 53:26[SPEAKER_03]: This is my office, not my same room.
- 53:30[SPEAKER_03]: But I think Ryan is the same way.
- 53:31[SPEAKER_03]: He's comforted up his home and winking guests.
- 53:35[SPEAKER_03]: He got to the, the Saint's game early this year.
- 53:36[SPEAKER_03]: I've not been in a number of years, but that's awesome, man.
- 53:41[SPEAKER_03]: And we're totally with you on that one.
- 53:43[SPEAKER_03]: Do any of your boys like to watch with you?
- 53:45[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, Raymond's completely cemented as a bear's fan, but, you know, taking them to that game that did it, everything this year has just been.
- 53:56[SPEAKER_00]: That's magic.
- 53:57[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's, it's, I'll share some photos after this with you, Brian, you can throw them up, but it's, it's honestly been.
- 54:05[SPEAKER_00]: If I really, really think about it, I start to get choked up.
- 54:08[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been really cool.
- 54:10[SPEAKER_00]: And then Zachary, he's seven.
- 54:12[SPEAKER_00]: He's really getting into it, too.
- 54:14[SPEAKER_00]: My four-year-olds interfere in Sam and whatever his four-year-olds are into, so he's too little for it.
- 54:22[SPEAKER_00]: And he'll sit and kind of just complain the fact that the TV's with the football, but the two older ones are definitely fair spans.
- 54:32[SPEAKER_00]: and it's it's not even close.
- 54:34[SPEAKER_00]: They're just really, really getting into it and it's really special.
- 54:38[SPEAKER_03]: That's a big deal.
- 54:41[SPEAKER_02]: How far of a drive is that for you when you go to the games?
- 54:43[SPEAKER_00]: It's four hours.
- 54:44[SPEAKER_00]: It's not too bad.
- 54:46[SPEAKER_00]: I got a figured out where to go, when to go.
- 54:49[SPEAKER_00]: My sister's on the Western suburbs and I still got cousins and
- 54:54[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of family out that way.
- 54:55[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, one of my best friends from the Navy, he was a submarine officer too.
- 55:00[SPEAKER_00]: He housed us when we did that night before the Giants.
- 55:05[SPEAKER_00]: And the bears have been first class with this whole thing.
- 55:07[SPEAKER_00]: They let us go to Halle's Hall and let they got the kids on the Walter Payton Center and got the practice and do a whole thing with the kids club.
- 55:18[SPEAKER_00]: You know, really, just really special, the memories that they've given me are things I'm just never going to forget, and aside from like, just things for me, just having the kids as you both know it's just so much more important.
- 55:34[SPEAKER_00]: You know, once you involve your children, it just takes it to a different level and they've done that for me.
- 55:39[SPEAKER_03]: So who was your?
- 55:42[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned some family and she can nail an eye when you were growing up in Detroit.
- 55:48[SPEAKER_03]: Who is your kind of not mentor, but the one that paved the way for you to be a bearous fan?
- 55:55[SPEAKER_03]: Who is that for you?
- 55:56[SPEAKER_00]: What's my dad?
- 55:58[SPEAKER_00]: You know, am I dad a big bearous fan?
- 56:02[SPEAKER_00]: And I was, you know, I was what,
- 56:06[SPEAKER_00]: two and a half almost three when the bears won the Super Bowl, if my math is right, really young, well, that's one of my first memories.
- 56:16[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean that legitimately, I just remember the house being chaotic that day.
- 56:25[SPEAKER_00]: And it's one of those first core memories was the bears in the Super Bowl, because that never happened.
- 56:31[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but my dad was just a die-hard bear span, you know, Monday night drawing a pillow at the TV.
- 56:37[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I got an older brother who's eight years older and, you know, you always look up to your older brother, that's just how it goes.
- 56:46[SPEAKER_00]: So my brother Todd, he's a bear's fan too, and so, you know, he was very instrumental.
- 56:53[SPEAKER_00]: His favorite play was Walter Payton, but, you know, being eight years older, he lived it, right?
- 56:58[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but yeah, those are the two that were most instrumental in me becoming a bear's fan.
- 57:05[SPEAKER_00]: Very cool.
- 57:06[SPEAKER_00]: Are you, are you going to the game this weekend?
- 57:08[SPEAKER_00]: I should ask you that.
- 57:09[SPEAKER_02]: Are you all in there?
- 57:10[SPEAKER_00]: I wish.
- 57:11[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 57:12[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I, I had, I have offers in
- 57:17[SPEAKER_00]: Everything, you know, life's a balance, you know, and we'd already talked about the being a super fan and, you know, but to be frank, I really want to watch this game with my kids, um, they haven't, they were Raymond was to when the bears, the double-doinck and Zach, everybody was a few months old.
- 57:37[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so.
- 57:39[SPEAKER_00]: I really just want to experience it with them.
- 57:42[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that sounds kind of crazy.
- 57:44[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe to some people like what you don't want to go to the game.
- 57:47[SPEAKER_00]: Of course I want to go to the game.
- 57:48[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go to the tailgate.
- 57:49[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get my name out there.
- 57:50[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still trying to become an NFL fan of the year.
- 57:53[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing everything I can to do that.
- 57:55[SPEAKER_00]: But some things are just important, right?
- 57:58[SPEAKER_00]: And that time and watching those games, which you and I both know, don't come up that often, maybe more so in the future.
- 58:06[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to mess that up, particularly with the boys.
- 58:07[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 58:08[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, our kids are going to be spoiled day.
- 58:11[SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to have to live what we live through guys.
- 58:13[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a good thing.
- 58:15[SPEAKER_03]: It is a good thing.
- 58:15[SPEAKER_03]: You want that for your children.
- 58:17[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm with you.
- 58:18[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's special.
- 58:20[SPEAKER_03]: And so in that vein.
- 58:22[SPEAKER_03]: I'm grateful that it's a Saturday night game.
- 58:24[SPEAKER_03]: It's a Sunday night before school, because a little harder to convince mom to let them stay up past half time on these Sunday night games, especially on the East Coast for on that.
- 58:36[SPEAKER_03]: But that's awesome, man.
- 58:38[SPEAKER_03]: John, it's been great to meet you.
- 58:42[SPEAKER_03]: We will share the link to vote.
- 58:44[SPEAKER_03]: I have voted for the Walter, I'm not Walter Peyton, for the NFL fan of the year award.
- 58:51[SPEAKER_03]: It's on NFL.com.
- 58:53[SPEAKER_03]: All you gotta do is enter an email address you can vote as many times as you want.
- 58:58[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, if you're stored resonates or Jonathan's stored resonates with you as far as bears fan in your family, your bloodline.
- 59:12[SPEAKER_03]: Having the house shake when the Super Bowl happened back in the 86 and, you know, living through
- 59:20[SPEAKER_03]: the love of years, the one stack years before that, obviously, did cut and, and, and, and, and, trust men and naggy, and here we are with Ben Johnson, who, by the way, Jonathan is, is, from right up the street from me right now.
- 59:38[SPEAKER_03]: Not wrong from, but where I am now, Ben Johnson played his high school ball.
- 59:51[SPEAKER_00]: If I don't mind sharing his, uh, he actually, um, is that my kid's school?
- 59:58[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and he, you know, not gonna be weird about it.
- 1:00:03[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
- 1:00:03[SPEAKER_00]: He just comes in and gets his kids.
- 1:00:05[SPEAKER_00]: And you see the Johnson's.
- 1:00:07[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the way it is, right?
- 1:00:09[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not a lion's fan anyway.
- 1:00:11[SPEAKER_00]: Some boys wear my bare stuff regardless.
- 1:00:13[SPEAKER_00]: But there was one day when he looked at me and we just crossed, we didn't say word.
- 1:00:21[SPEAKER_00]: That's where, like, I'm taking that, and I'm like, there's a chance, there is a chance.
- 1:00:28[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, that was, that was pretty awesome.
- 1:00:31[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a true story.
- 1:00:33[SPEAKER_03]: Have you heard the interview that our Bill Zimmerman had this past summer with Ben's agent?
- 1:00:43[SPEAKER_03]: I did not catch that interview.
- 1:00:45[SPEAKER_03]: You got to check right in.
- 1:00:47[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 1:00:47[SPEAKER_03]: That is just some exceptional stuff behind the scenes.
- 1:00:52[SPEAKER_03]: You know, either there are so many rumors about him.
- 1:00:54[SPEAKER_03]: One of the raiders he didn't want the bears.
- 1:00:56[SPEAKER_03]: There was this in that.
- 1:00:57[SPEAKER_03]: And, and, and, and, and, and build our, our guy on this channel.
- 1:01:02[SPEAKER_03]: He got first access to any events people.
- 1:01:06[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, right after it happened, wasn't it?
- 1:01:08[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's pretty close.
- 1:01:09[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 1:01:09[SPEAKER_03]: all the inside scoop even from Thanksgiving like you talked about Thanksgiving weekend context stuff like it.
- 1:01:19[SPEAKER_03]: So that you got to check that out.
- 1:01:21[SPEAKER_03]: That's some really cool stuff.
- 1:01:23[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely well, though.
- 1:01:25[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, this is new leadership ladies and gentlemen from from the front office to the coaching staff to the captains and the quarterback, new leadership in Chicago.
- 1:01:39[SPEAKER_02]: That interview, at least it was on the YouTube page, on January 24th.
- 1:01:44[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was like days after he hit, because they hired him, I'm like the 18th or 20th or 20th.
- 1:01:51[SPEAKER_02]: It was like within the week that he got hired, Bill had his agent on his show.
- 1:01:55[SPEAKER_02]: And as you can imagine, that was like the most downloaded episode in the history of second city for the internet was, it's a great, super insightful.
- 1:02:02[SPEAKER_00]: Well until tonight.
- 1:02:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, until tonight.
- 1:02:05[SPEAKER_02]: And we got the bears fan of the years.
- 1:02:07[SPEAKER_03]: So now we're doing like this, but first.
- 1:02:10[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's a reason.
- 1:02:13[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:02:14[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
- 1:02:15[SPEAKER_02]: That's very cool.
- 1:02:16[SPEAKER_02]: Very cool.
- 1:02:17[SPEAKER_02]: We got to keep in contact.
- 1:02:17[SPEAKER_02]: This has been a great conversation.
- 1:02:19[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I really appreciate the time to platform.
- 1:02:22[SPEAKER_00]: Let me share some of my stories.
- 1:02:25[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the fans voting.
- 1:02:27[SPEAKER_00]: My wife's
- 1:02:31[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be happy when this is over.
- 1:02:32[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like you're running for a can.
- 1:02:34[SPEAKER_00]: Like a can of the sea or something.
- 1:02:36[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you know, if you're going to do it, you're going to do it.
- 1:02:39[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I tell my cubscult, right?
- 1:02:41[SPEAKER_00]: Cubscult layer.
- 1:02:43[SPEAKER_00]: Cubscult models do your best.
- 1:02:46[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want anyone who interacts with me during this whole thing to be like, that guy did his best.
- 1:02:51[SPEAKER_00]: He tried his hardest to get voted.
- 1:02:53[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's all I'm doing.
- 1:02:54[SPEAKER_00]: And I appreciate the platform, Ryan and Brian.
- 1:02:57[SPEAKER_00]: I really appreciate you guys giving me the time.
- 1:03:00[SPEAKER_00]: This has been a lot of fun.
- 1:03:02[SPEAKER_00]: I look forward to talking to you guys.
- 1:03:05[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we can meet up in Chicago and go to a game when that be fun.
- 1:03:10[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, heck yeah.
- 1:03:11[SPEAKER_02]: I'm 100%.
- 1:03:15[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll talk Brian in the making the drive.
- 1:03:17[SPEAKER_02]: He can do it.
- 1:03:18[SPEAKER_03]: He's a little bit further than about 11, 12 hours for me.
- 1:03:22[SPEAKER_02]: Well, crashing the ice.
- 1:03:23[SPEAKER_02]: Crowdfunding, not often.
- 1:03:24[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
- 1:03:25[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was awesome.
- 1:03:26[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:03:26[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks Jonathan.
- 1:03:27[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.
- 1:03:28[SPEAKER_02]: See you.
- 1:03:30[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we will put the link to vote for Jonathan right here in the broadcast description.
- 1:03:34[SPEAKER_02]: Make it really easy for all the listeners.
- 1:03:35[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we would appreciate it.
- 1:03:37[SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan would appreciate it.
- 1:03:38[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys can go on there, get a vote in for him.
- 1:03:42[SPEAKER_02]: So.
- 1:03:43[SPEAKER_02]: Ryan, did you want to real quick before we go off the air?
- 1:03:46[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to revisit our predictions?
- 1:03:48[SPEAKER_02]: We did it at the beginning of the show.
- 1:03:50[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're out of the beginning of the season.
- 1:03:51[SPEAKER_02]: I got it ready.
- 1:03:53[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, please.
- 1:03:54[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it.
- 1:03:55[SPEAKER_02]: All right, because, you know, we did the the show the night the schedules were revealed.
- 1:04:00[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we hadn't had much of the offseason.
- 1:04:03[SPEAKER_02]: We had no training camp yet, no preseason, of course.
- 1:04:07[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, Brian, me, Jacob and Fonte.
- 1:04:11[SPEAKER_02]: This is a little weird because we got all these pictures right next to where they old pictures, but we're over here still.
- 1:04:17[SPEAKER_02]: We did the season predictions, that night.
- 1:04:20[SPEAKER_02]: And here is how our predictions went.
- 1:04:23[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, we got it.
- 1:04:25[SPEAKER_02]: Brian and myself both had the bears that night at May at 11 and 6.
- 1:04:30[SPEAKER_02]: And my goodness, that is what they ended at 11 and 6.
- 1:04:38[SPEAKER_02]: We were pretty dang close, so Jacob went first.
- 1:04:42[SPEAKER_02]: So as you look after, I know for the podcast listeners, it's gonna be difficult, but if you're on the YouTube page, I got the screenshot up.
- 1:04:50[SPEAKER_02]: I'll try to talk through some of this.
- 1:04:52[SPEAKER_02]: But as you're seeing the game by game, as we predicted that night, the first WRL was Jacob, he went first, then the second WRL on each game was Brian and then I went third.
- 1:05:05[SPEAKER_02]: And as you look through this, I mean, we did not get too many wrong Brian.
- 1:05:11[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we got the Lions game wrong.
- 1:05:13[SPEAKER_02]: We thought they were going to lose in Detroit, but when in Chicago, we all had them lose in at San Francisco and that Eagles.
- 1:05:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was one that they pulled off obviously, but I mean, overall, there's just only like a couple of them.
- 1:05:28[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't get just crazy.
- 1:05:31[SPEAKER_02]: We did pretty well.
- 1:05:32[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm saying is when the next year schedule is revealed, long after this super bowl of run, of course you guys, you're gonna want to tune into this broadcast because we were putting on for those older listeners, the old Karnak, the magnificent hat, like Johnny Carson used to do, and it looks like we had.
- 1:05:48[SPEAKER_02]: And a pretty good time, right?
- 1:05:50[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, man, that's, you guys, we flipped the Packers games.
- 1:05:56[SPEAKER_03]: You guys got the correct guesses, predictions, then I did not.
- 1:06:01[SPEAKER_03]: But, but man, yeah, to end at 11 and 6, both of us, that's impressive.
- 1:06:06[SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations to you on that.
- 1:06:08[SPEAKER_02]: You as well.
- 1:06:10[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
- 1:06:11[SPEAKER_02]: Bears overbears.
- 1:06:12[SPEAKER_02]: Smart a show on the internet.
- 1:06:15[SPEAKER_02]: Who's to say not?
- 1:06:16[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, in that vein, bro, what's your prediction for this Saturday?
- 1:06:22[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, here we go.
- 1:06:26[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going bears.
- 1:06:27[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not picking against the bears in the playoffs.
- 1:06:29[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like it's got to come down right to the end almost, but then the same time like one of these games has got to break
- 1:06:40[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say, I'm going to say bears 24 to 21 24 21 bears, what do you got, right?
- 1:06:55[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going 27 17 bears.
- 1:06:59[SPEAKER_03]: 2017 you you made me want to go like 27 23 27 20 but my initial prediction in my head was 2017.
- 1:07:07[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what I'm going with.
- 1:07:10[SPEAKER_02]: Very nice.
- 1:07:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean the weather's going to be really interesting to follow because that's going to impact the kicking game obviously.
- 1:07:16[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of thinking that in the back of my head as well.
- 1:07:18[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say Cairo heats like a pretty short one early in the game and all the rest of touchdowns.
- 1:07:24[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say the bears lead bell to bell, though.
- 1:07:27[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to come down at the end until we get a little nervous, you know, the green base got a shot, but I think Jordan loves going to throw some interceptions in this game.
- 1:07:35[SPEAKER_02]: At least one, I was looking through his history and the playoffs, Brian.
- 1:07:40[SPEAKER_02]: Five touchdowns, five interceptions, and three playoff games.
- 1:07:43[SPEAKER_02]: his last two playoff games last year, course at Philadelphia, zero touchdowns three interceptions.
- 1:07:49[SPEAKER_02]: This is a real bad game for Jordan.
- 1:07:51[SPEAKER_02]: Game before that, at San Francisco, two touchdowns two interceptions.
- 1:07:56[SPEAKER_02]: His best playoff game at Dallas two years ago, three TDs, zero pick.
- 1:08:00[SPEAKER_02]: But the last two, multiple interceptions, I'm gonna say this boomer bust bears defense, gets at least one.
- 1:08:08[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna call it Kevin Byrd, why not let the league and interceptions this year.
- 1:08:13[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I'm going to say two interceptions.
- 1:08:15[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say nation and Kevin buyer.
- 1:08:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think in this game.
- 1:08:20[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
- 1:08:21[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think we do get two picks as well.
- 1:08:24[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to remain and brisk her.
- 1:08:26[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 1:08:28[SPEAKER_03]: I love the way brisk her play last week.
- 1:08:30[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he was one of our best players last week.
- 1:08:33[SPEAKER_03]: And I think her name is going to bounce back this week.
- 1:08:35[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.
- 1:08:38[SPEAKER_02]: I like the brusker pick.
- 1:08:39[SPEAKER_02]: I think maybe brusker is about to pick the nation has struggled a bit of light.
- 1:08:44[SPEAKER_03]: I think bruskers only have one all year.
- 1:08:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:08:47[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, I picked the more obvious ones.
- 1:08:50[SPEAKER_02]: The guys have led the league and interceptions.
- 1:08:53[SPEAKER_02]: No, different points this year.
- 1:08:55[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like man, buyers, but such a good veteran back there.
- 1:08:58[SPEAKER_02]: He just always seems to be around the ball like he was against the short getting that pick.
- 1:09:02[SPEAKER_02]: Feel like he's just gonna show up and get one.
- 1:09:05[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 1:09:08[SPEAKER_03]: what we would want to do for an offseason standpoint.
- 1:09:12[SPEAKER_03]: That's for another show.
- 1:09:13[SPEAKER_02]: That's for another show.
- 1:09:14[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see that.
- 1:09:15[SPEAKER_03]: Byrd has been an absolute gem and deserves every accolade he gets this year has looked extremely solid.
- 1:09:26[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm really impressed with Briskar last couple weeks.
- 1:09:30[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's going to step up this week as well.
- 1:09:32[SPEAKER_03]: So, and I liked what Byrd said.
- 1:09:35[SPEAKER_03]: He said, something on the lines of, you know, you got to get close to the line, but not jump over it.
- 1:09:43[SPEAKER_03]: It close the cliff or something like that and just not jump over it.
- 1:09:47[SPEAKER_03]: And I think we need to bring that mentality.
- 1:09:50[SPEAKER_03]: And I think they're referring to the penalties that kept the drive alive, the drives alive are really against the packers last time because we had that momentum.
- 1:10:00[SPEAKER_03]: You got to be got a harness that energy, but not let it harness you.
- 1:10:06[SPEAKER_03]: And I think brisker has been doing that lately.
- 1:10:09[SPEAKER_03]: And the environment is obviously a pros pro.
- 1:10:11[SPEAKER_03]: We just need our guys to step up.
- 1:10:13[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, hopefully, Gordon can be healthy.
- 1:10:14[SPEAKER_03]: But we will be watching Ryan and I will be texting.
- 1:10:22[SPEAKER_03]: And if you follow us on Twitter, you'll see some sporadic tweets here and there.
- 1:10:29[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to try to rain it in.
- 1:10:31[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to try to keep my phone away for me because I'm going to be so stressed.
- 1:10:34[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say stuff that I'm going to end up deleting.
- 1:10:36[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll have a few tweets here and there, but I know with the playoff games can be amplified because usually in the regular games, I got to stop myself here and there from tweet stuff.
- 1:10:44[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to be more restrained, but there will be a few.
- 1:10:49[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we'll be texting regardless.
- 1:10:51[SPEAKER_02]: We will be texting and they will not be school age appropriate.
- 1:10:55[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sir.
- 1:10:56[SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe they will be.
- 1:10:57[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, you know, if the bears are pulling away in the game, they're probably still not going to be school age appropriate.
- 1:11:02[SPEAKER_02]: Because we'll be so excited that we'll be some colorful language.
- 1:11:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
- 1:11:08[SPEAKER_03]: But I do hope we get ball first.
- 1:11:10[SPEAKER_02]: Same.
- 1:11:11[SPEAKER_02]: I think if they win the toss, they got to take the ball score right away.
- 1:11:14[SPEAKER_02]: That's the way.
- 1:11:15[SPEAKER_02]: That is the way.
- 1:11:17[SPEAKER_02]: All right, guys.
- 1:11:17[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, this has been a ton of fun.
- 1:11:19[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed this.
- 1:11:21[SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan was great Brian.
- 1:11:23[SPEAKER_02]: You're great.
- 1:11:23[SPEAKER_02]: As always, I hope the listeners enjoyed this.
- 1:11:25[SPEAKER_02]: We'll definitely be back next week.
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