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Brett Keane Show /w @Lucifer-LeGivorden @MissingMod @MarkReidAtheism Moral mental illness war · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  radio. How old is?
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  She They are 15 months old, they actually use they them pronouns
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  for a grade until they tell us who they are.
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  That's why you're like, who? What?
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  Oh. Oh, wow.
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  So. They they awesome.
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  Well, enjoy the Pride break. Did you say thank you?
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  Thank you. We are pulling apart this idea
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  of sex, which is related to genitals, and gender, which is
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  related to how you move in the world.
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  So what you wear, how you share your identity with other people,
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  all of those things are related to gender.
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  Boys have a penis. Girls have a vagina.
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  We've just received these documents that Trudeau has been
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  covering up for years, documents related to a massive security
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  laboratory, where the most dangerous viruses and pathogens
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  are studied and handled. We have learned that the Trudeau
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  government's head of pathogens was collaborating with members
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  of Beijing's People's Liberation Army who are responsible for bio
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  weapons and bioterrorism. We know now that a People's
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  Walk in the door, look at computers.
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  It has access to all of our most important virological secrets.
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  Let me if you think any of this is hyperbole, read the report
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  yourself. They like Trump.
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  Could you believe it? They like the government, but I
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  think as time rolls on, people are going to understand the need
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  to have some sort of divine structure to things, some sort
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  of belief in the sanctity of love and of truth.
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  And a lot of that comes from religion.
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  A lot of people's moral compass and the guidelines that they've
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  used to follow to live a just and righteous life has come from
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  religion. And unfortunately, a lot of very
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  intelligent people, they dismiss all of the positive aspects of
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  religion because they think that the stories are mere
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  superstitious fairy tales that, you know, they're they have no
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  place in this modern world. And you know, we're inherently
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  good and your ethics are based on your old moral compass.
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  And we all have one. And that's not necessarily true.
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  We need to do we need Jesus, I think for real, like if you came
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  back now, it'd be great. Like Jesus, if you're thinking
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  about coming back right now. Now's a good time.
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  Pretty soon, yeah. Now's a good time.
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  Well, hello ladies and gentlemen.
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  My name is Brett Keene and you're watching listening to the
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  Brett Keene Show. I hope you're all having a
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  wonderful day. I'm here with my awesome, sexy
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  Co host, Lucifer. Oh.
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  Yeah, it's so sexy right now. I'm feeling about as sexy as dog
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  shit. Sexy as dog shit.
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  Goodness gracious, man. You still hurting, huh, man?
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  Yeah, I ain't feeling the hot and greatest, but hey, I made
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  it. I'm just not appearing on camera
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  tonight, folks, because, well, I don't think anybody really wants
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  to see my sick ass on camera. So.
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  But I'm here. I'm present.
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  I'm ready to commentate, I'm ready to rip into some stupid
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  atheists. And I'm going to go on record
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  here really quickly to say that I have to agree that most moral
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  compasses do come from religion. And I didn't always agree with
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  that. I used to think that you didn't
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  have to have a religion to have a good moral compass.
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  You could just be a good person in general and be OK.
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  But in the past several years, I see all of the stupidity that's
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  come out of the atheist side of things.
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  And I can't help but to say the best people that I've ever
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  encountered have some sort of religious belief, and it
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  doesn't. You don't, I will say you don't
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  have to be a Christian. You could be.
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  You can be a Satanist like a theistic Satanist like myself.
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  You could be a Wiccan. You could be anything you want,
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  so long as you adhere to the guidelines and laws of who, that
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  of what that religion states. I mean, I've seen plenty of
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  people who, if they adhered to the laws of Wicca, they'd be
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  wonderful people. They'd be absolutely wonderful
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  people. I've met plenty of people who
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  were who were Buddhists, like traditional Buddhists and
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  wonderful people. I've also met people are
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  surprised that I met numerous, numerous Christians who, when
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  they got to know me as a person, they, you know, we got along
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  famously and they are generally really good people.
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  So you don't have to be of any one particular religion, just
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  adhere to the codes and ethics of that religion to be a good
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  person and have a good moral compass.
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  However, I've never seen that with an atheist.
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  Me neither. Me neither.
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  There was a time where I used to believe that one didn't need a
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  God or any kind of belief in that in order to have a moral
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  compass that humans would rationally realize we need to be
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  a cosmic family and work together in order to achieve and
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  accomplish and do better. I thought science was the only
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  alternative, the only answer. And the more and more I hung out
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  with non believers, the more I realized that I was horribly
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  wrong. I believe that people need a
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  moral compass. I think that's people have to
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  have faith in something higher than themselves that they can
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  achieve. If that makes sense, well.
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  It makes perfect sense to me. I mean, I I don't, you know, I
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  don't know where people go wrong if they because, you know, the
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  whole notion of being your own God or being an atheist or you
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  don't believe in any external God, it sounds great on paper.
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  It it's sort of like socialism or Marxism or whatnot.
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  You see it on paper and it looks great.
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  It sounds fantastic. You put it into practice and
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  everything just goes to shit. Let me show you something real
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  quick. These are some statistics right
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  here. Atheists have the highest
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  suicide rate on the planet over every group and community
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  combined, and that's including Islam.
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  You would think Islam would be way up there with all the bombs,
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  right? Atheists have the highest
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  substance abuse and drug issues on the planet.
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  Atheists founded NAMBLA and invented child porn magazines.
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  Atheist countries have the highest rape crimes and domestic
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  abuse over all religious countries, including Islam.
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  Atheists are more likely than any other group to be
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  pedophiles. Homosexual transgender Catholics
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  don't hold a candle to atheist depravity.
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  And here's the proof of NAMBLA. That's the guy that created it.
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  He was an atheist. And Yup, Yup, Yup, there we go.
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  What's your thoughts? Why do you think that is?
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  Why do you think that people who believe they're nothing more
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  than evolved slugs would have that kind of behavior?
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  Well. I'm going to go on record here
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  and say that atheists may not have a highest suicide rate.
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  That part might actually be wrong.
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  The highest suicide rates that I'm hearing in the records
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  reporting currently are coming from transgendered individuals
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  and it's from people who regret not, you know, staying as what
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  they were and they went the whole way.
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  There is one transgender individual who I have a deep
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  respect for, her name is Blair White.
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  And to look at her, to listen to her, she sounds looks like a
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  totally natural woman. She's transgendered and she has
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  gone on record and said she's never going to get the bottom
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  surgery because she's flat out. Said that people who get the
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  bottom surgery where they get their genitals cut off and
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  totally mutilated and everything else, they regret it.
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  They regret it because that's the one thing that they really
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  can't go back on and they have. There's like a 75 to 85% suicide
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  rate amongst transgendered individuals who get that bottom
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  surgery done. So I don't know if you want to
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  compare the numbers there or what not, but yeah, that's
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  that's what that is, The rest of the stuff.
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  Listen, in Satanism we don't completely condemn suicide.
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  We acknowledge that there are certain points in time where it
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  is an acceptable act to perform under certain circumstances.
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  Excuse me guys, I am sick. So I don't mean to be coughing
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  at the mic, but one of the that actually brings up the first
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  part of what we consider to be acceptable, and that is terminal
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  illness. If you're dying from a terminal
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  disease, say it's cancer, AIDS or any other sort of horrible
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  disease, that's slowly killing you, wasting you away, and you
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  know there's no chance of you recovering from it, We find it's
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  perfectly acceptable to set your affairs in order.
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  Tell your friends and loved ones that you love them and that
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  you're going to miss them, and then you hope that they miss
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  you, and then find a nice quiet place and end your own
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  suffering. We look at this as you know, we
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  euthanize our pets to ease their suffering.
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  We, we as humans should have the right, as especially as adults,
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  to choose when to go out on our own terms if we are similarly
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  suffering. The other time is if you're a
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  military officer or soldier or whatnot, and your sacrifice, the
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  sacrifice of your life can help. Your.
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  Battle buddies or whoever to That's just an example.
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  You know you don't have to be a military officer, just in a
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  situation where the end of your life can actually benefit others
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  to help them live and continue onward.
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  But we believe in that instance it's not really suicide, it's
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  self sacrifice. So, Brett?
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  Yeah, I'm listening to. I was just waiting for your mic
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  to shut off. I was thought you might be,
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  Didn't know if you were done. Yeah, in cases of self sacrifice
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  and altruistic acts, I can completely see that.
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  I think my issue is with what Canada's doing lately, where
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  they're wanting to build suicide clinics and allow minors to
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  commit suicide, kids and all that.
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  And as far as transgenders go, Blair White is an excellent
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  person. I enjoy listening to her videos
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  as she. I will actually respect her with
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  the whole pronouns thing, but I don't like people demanding or
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  forcing, and that's one thing I like about Blair White.
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  Clara White actually says, look, you know, alls I ask is that you
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  treat me like a human and I treat you like a human back.
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  It doesn't expect me to jump through hoops and stupid shit.
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  As far as transgenders go, don't really have a problem with
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  adults doing whatever they want with their body.
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  If you want to put, you know, earrings all in your face and
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  look like Shredder off the turtles, fine.
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  But it's the encouraging of children mutilating themselves
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  before they fully develop their their mind and their brain that
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  that concerned me. That's what bothers me the most.
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  Absolutely. And that's that's the big thing
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  is, you know, we have people out there trying to push this crap
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  on children and it's that's exactly what it is.
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  It's absolute garbage. These are children.
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  It doesn't matter what age they are until they are of the legal
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  age consent. Until they are legally seen as
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  adults in the eyes of law and of society, nothing should be
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  forced on them. You know, it's like the clip you
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  showed. They're trying to attach
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  pronouns to a toddler just because they can't tell you what
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  they are. I'm sorry, but you can look at
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  their gender. You can look at their natural
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  born state and tell, OK, it's a girl, raise it as a girl.
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  You can look at it. It's natural born state.
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  OK, there's a penis there it is. A boy.
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  What they want to call themselves when they're older,
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  after they've hit 18, that's totally up to them.
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  Until then, call it as you see it.
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  They can do it if you want. Hey Garcia, how you doing?
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  Yeah, I I think that especially whenever it comes to suicide or
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  even the mutilation thing we were talking about.
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  I mean, you remember what it was like whenever you were a kid.
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  I know what it was like when I was a kid.
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  Everything was confusing and the world was crazy.
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  There were a lot of times where I didn't felt feel like I felt
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  that or I felt like I fit in. So if they would have had like a
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  suicide clinic for kids back then, well, I might have even
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  considered it several times. So I don't think it's a good
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  idea. I think it's we should wait
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  until people become adults before they start making those
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  kind of choices with their body. Exactly, exactly.
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  Hey, I'll be right back, guys. I'm going to go get myself a cup
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  of coffee or something. I'll be right back.
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  All right, man, I hope you get to feeling better.
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  Hey Garcia, how are you? Hello.
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  Don you listen to me. Yeah, I can hear you, Garcia,
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  what's your story? Tell me about yourself.
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  Well, I'm 24 years old. I'm Christian.
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  Sounds like your mic went out, aren't you?
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  I was wondering what would you have considered when you were
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  young? Suicide.
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  Because I had a hard upbringing. I had a sick mother and my
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  father left at a very young age, and around the same time he
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  left, my grandmother died from cancer, shriveled up right in
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  front of me. I watched her die.
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  So I didn't know what I was going to do with my life.
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  And then out of foster homes, I went and residential treatment
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  centers. And I just didn't think that,
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  you know, I would make it to 20 years old.
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  I was like, nobody wants me. Nobody loves me.
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  I might as well just end it. That's the way I felt as a kid.
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  But obviously now I'm almost 50 years old and I'm glad that I
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  stuck around. I got a beautiful wife, two
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  wonderful children and a decent amount of people.
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  I notice everybody keeps on pointing out Bright, You got 666
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  subscribers. Yeah, I know, It's probably from
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  having all these Satanists on my channel.
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  Goodness gracious. Probably the government's
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  bringing up. Yeah.
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  You know, I felt the same when I was younger.
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  Now I'm 24 and I don't feel like I'll be when I was younger.
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  Maybe I have. I would have done it.
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  Were you Christian back then? I was a Christian whenever I was
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  young, but after all those tragedies and all that, I
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  started getting skeptical and I turned into an atheist for a
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  very, very long time. But I believe that I'm I was a
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  lot different than a lot of the non believers that exist today.
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  Just because I was having trouble accepting that there
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  might be a higher power out there, I still believe that we
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  should all get along with each other.
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  No matter if you're religious or you believe in a higher power or
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  not. I thought non believers should
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  get along with religious people is where it seemed like other
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  atheists were always wanting to fight and argue and and bash
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  people. You know, it's amazing how
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  sometimes bad situations can make your face stronger.
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  Sometimes they can break it. Yeah, Yeah.
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  So when you were younger, you were having a tough time too.
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  You actually considered ending it all, huh?
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  Yeah, sometimes. Well, I'm glad you didn't.
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  I was very the best. I have problem with my family
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  now. What was the?
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  Problem I don't know. I had a little.
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  Fight with my my father, you know, with my family didn't get
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  along. I feel like I was alone in the
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  world. Did things get worked out, or
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  did you just figure out how to adapt to a shit sandwich without
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  the bread? Yeah, a little bit of both.
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  You know, things changed. But that's why I learned how to
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  cope with it. I started working and I I was
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  able to get out of there. On my home.
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  And it's good. So you're living on your own and
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  you're making life work for you. You know, you grabbed life by
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  the balls and said, Bitch, you're going to do what I need
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  you to do, am I right? You're going to do that?
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  Yeah. There you go.
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  There you go. But if you give these kids the
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  ability to kill themselves before they get to that point,
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  they might not even know it. Yeah, life is tough, especially
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  for young people 'cause you're trying to figure out who you are
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  in the world and where you want to be and all this and all these
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  people have expectations and putting up all kinds of walls.
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  A lot of kids get bullied nowadays too, so that could
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  really push someone's self esteem down.
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  Miss and Maude, you're going to come in here and chat with us as
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  well as Bubblegum Mr., My Co host Lucifer's not feeling very
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  good and he could use some help here by people coming in and
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  taking up some of the slack for him.
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  These people, what are we going to do with them?
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  Garcia, I. Don't know, man.
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  I don't. Know.
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  So Garcia, let me throw a topic at you and see what your opinion
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  is. They've been talking about
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  passing laws all over the United States to basically give the
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  death penalty to pedophiles. What's your thoughts on that?
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  I completely agree having the shoe with you.
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  But you know. It always should always be
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  proven. That's the thing.
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  What happens if someone is falsely abused?
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  Like there's having so many people being accused of things
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  and it turns out later that they're not, you know?
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  The only real issue I have with the death penalty or capital
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  punishment is our system is so broke and it's a 3 ring circus.
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  I mean, with what we've seen, the system being used on Trump
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  the way it was, that gives me all the evidence in the world
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  that we got to be careful. So if somebody's going to get
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  killed for being a pedophile, we need to have 100% evidence
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  before we pull the switch on to my think, yeah, I agree, let's
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  see what we got, Ladsker out here says personally, he says
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  personally, I don't think it's atheism necessarily.
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  It's the hubris nihilism. I believe a spiritual atheist
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  can be a good person, but not a secular or postmodernist.
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  Well, you don't see very many atheists who believe in
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  spirituality. They throw the baby out with the
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  bathwater on that. There's not very many atheists
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  I've met who actually believe they have a soul or that there's
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  an afterlife. So they usually have convinced
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  themselves that there's nothing more than animals that evolved
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  from maggots and they behave as such.
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  Yeah, well, let's bring back public executions and see how
• 28:03
  quickly they find religion. I think that'd be a great idea.
• 28:08
  I think that what we need to do is open up the coliseums, make
• 28:12
  them pay-per-view, $30 like WWE, wrestling and all the pedophiles
• 28:18
  and rapists that we know for a fact that the the deal and
• 28:22
  stuff, we need to put them in the Coliseum and let them
• 28:25
  publicly be destroyed and mauled.
• 28:28
  That way the world can be made an example of.
• 28:30
  What do you think, guys? Good idea.
• 28:32
  I agree. We should definitely put those
• 28:34
  guys in a Coliseum on pay-per-view, like you just
• 28:37
  said, and make them face the parents of their victims.
• 28:43
  Make them face, you know, you got one of these six sick bucks
• 28:47
  like John Walsh. Do you remember the John Walsh
• 28:50
  story? The guy who founded America's
• 28:52
  Most Wanted, the television show?
• 28:55
  His son was taken brutally murdered.
• 28:59
  They only ever found his head. There's actually a movie on this
• 29:02
  guys. Finally John Walsh and then
• 29:07
  found who did it and arrested him.
• 29:11
  What's to say that we shouldn't put the killer of his son in an
• 29:15
  arena with John Walsh And said may the best man walk away?
• 29:25
  Exactly. Oh, by the way, your buddy, a
• 29:27
  raging atheist, is out there. He says the atheists and
• 29:31
  foxholes argument. So original.
• 29:34
  I don't think either one of us said anything about atheists and
• 29:37
  foxholes. You, you've heard that old meme,
• 29:40
  haven't you, Lucifer, about atheists and foxholes?
• 29:45
  No, I haven't. But I know that all atheists are
• 29:48
  a foxhole, if you get my meaning.
• 29:51
  That's rough. Well the meme goes like this,
• 29:54
  that you'll never find an atheist in the foxhole because
• 29:57
  the minute bullets start flying they'll start crying out to
• 30:00
  Jesus or God or something because their life is on the
• 30:03
  line. So, but I I know for a fact that
• 30:07
  there has been some non believers who've actually served
• 30:10
  and they did their thing in the military.
• 30:13
  The question I have though is if you only have one life and this
• 30:18
  is the only life that you have, why would you fight over land,
• 30:22
  seeing air or dirt for and do a lot of people out there, they're
• 30:26
  convinced that they got to be a part of something like that so
• 30:29
  they can be all they can be? And what is it that you can be,
• 30:32
  all you can be besides dead? What do they mean in the
• 30:35
  brochure? And everybody went.
• 30:42
  Sorry, I had a pizza pizza in my mouth.
• 30:46
  I'm sitting here eating turtle food to help get over my
• 30:48
  sickness. I really don't know.
• 30:52
  You know, being all you can be is the whole notion of it.
• 30:57
  I know what they're trying to import and that's to reach your
• 30:59
  ultimate fuel. But being all that you can be
• 31:04
  comes from within first. That's my personal opinion.
• 31:07
  Being put in a hard situation, that's where you know joining
• 31:12
  the military, it's a rough ride. You're not going to get an easy
• 31:15
  ride there, but you're going to be pushed your best.
• 31:19
  You're either going to be pushed your best or you're going to be
• 31:21
  broken. That's about all it is.
• 31:25
  I had a family member that served and they told me that
• 31:28
  whenever I was younger that I should go serve and all that.
• 31:31
  And I said, why would I want to do that for?
• 31:33
  And they said because you get the, you know, get out there
• 31:36
  and, you know, do for America. And I says how is going to
• 31:39
  foreign countries shooting total strangers up helping my country
• 31:44
  out on the exactly, 'cause it seems to me in the last 3050
• 31:48
  years, any fights we've had is over trying to get people's
• 31:52
  resources and oil. It don't seem like there's any
• 31:54
  democracy to it. So I guess you guys can say
• 32:01
  Brett King can't be found on the foxhole, 'cause I ain't going to
• 32:04
  do it unless beautiful. And my wife, I've been in the
• 32:08
  damn foxhole. I've been under fire before in
• 32:10
  real life and I don't have scars all over my body and all over my
• 32:14
  face from just sitting on the sidelines.
• 32:18
  It it it's, you know, you, you get into that situation where
• 32:21
  it's kill or be killed and your perspective on things change.
• 32:25
  But you know this, Brett, you know you and I have talked
• 32:28
  extensively about my past, you know, in certain instances and
• 32:33
  you know that just simply being there you you can't have that
• 32:39
  perspective. It's going to change you.
• 32:43
  Yeah, I wouldn't be able to handle it.
• 32:45
  Just the idea. I mean, some people out there,
• 32:48
  especially on Twitter, and a lot of these conservatives, they
• 32:51
  like to brag about their guns and all that.
• 32:53
  If somebody comes on my property, I'll sit there, I ask
• 32:56
  kind of attitude. But me, the idea of actually
• 32:59
  ending someone's life, especially somebody I don't
• 33:02
  know, I don't know. I think that would give me bad
• 33:05
  dreams, nightmares, you know what I mean?
• 33:07
  And I already got enough of them.
• 33:10
  Well, take it from me, it's it's definitely something different.
• 33:17
  Most of these people, they wouldn't fucking know what to do
• 33:20
  if they had to kill a person. I've been in that position.
• 33:23
  I've seen death so many times first hand.
• 33:26
  I've seen people executed brutally via Sharia law.
• 33:31
  I've you've been forced to take a life before.
• 33:36
  Not something I'm very happy about but I was left with no
• 33:39
  choice. And it's definitely something
• 33:44
  that you can't just, you can't just take lightly.
• 33:51
  How you doing? Missing mod.
• 33:52
  It's good to see you. Hi, how are you Can?
• 33:56
  You speak as a dog. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 34:00
  Yeah, but I made it tonight. At least that's why I'm not on
• 34:04
  camera. I look like crap.
• 34:06
  Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know if this is the
• 34:09
  actual raging atheist. This might be a troll of him
• 34:14
  doing a soccer count. Would you like to talk to him?
• 34:16
  Lucifer. Are you up for that?
• 34:18
  I have nothing to say to the raging atheist.
• 34:20
  The only thing I need to know is his name, his address, and then
• 34:23
  I'm going to take his ass to court.
• 34:26
  Oh, OK. So you don't want to, you don't
• 34:29
  want to talk to him because this might actually be him in the
• 34:33
  stage? He had his chance, let's put it
• 34:36
  this way. He had his chance when we
• 34:40
  invited him on to the show to talk about things and he chose
• 34:44
  to piss up a rope. He chose to play games.
• 34:47
  I have nothing further to say to him.
• 34:50
  OK, maybe some other time they're not, because Mr. Lucifer
• 34:55
  is not feeling too good and I'm half deaf over here.
• 34:58
  If it wasn't for missing mod, there wouldn't be 1 functional
• 35:00
  human being in the room. Oh, that sucks, because I've
• 35:04
  never, I've never talked to him before, so he's not.
• 35:07
  He usually doesn't have. He's not really like a troubled,
• 35:10
  you know, like troublemaker or anything, is he?
• 35:14
  Well. He called.
• 35:16
  Go ahead, Brett. A Nazi numerous times because
• 35:20
  Brett was on my episode, my show where I had a bunch of former
• 35:25
  National Socialists and we were talking about all of our past
• 35:28
  and he called Brett Nazi numerous times just for being on
• 35:32
  there. And he was did a bunch of things
• 35:34
  and he tried to you know steal some of my content to make a
• 35:38
  video of his. And I copyright struck him and
• 35:42
  he decided he wanted to play games.
• 35:44
  And I said, hey, listen, just apologize to Brett, you know,
• 35:47
  for running his name through my in All in all honesty, I didn't
• 35:52
  even care if he ever apologized to me.
• 35:54
  But, you know, I said, hey, apologize Brett, apologize to me
• 35:58
  for stealing my stuff. But mostly Brett.
• 36:01
  Yo-yo Brett on an apology and. What do you mean?
• 36:09
  He's mean to me. He's mean to me.
• 36:11
  I appreciate that, Lucifer. You know what, Lucifer, believe
• 36:14
  it or not, and I am not shitting you on this.
• 36:18
  I've had tons and tons of people do that where they make videos,
• 36:21
  especially atheists, Attack, attack, attack, and not one
• 36:26
  single time do Christians make videos and try to defend me or
• 36:29
  support me in any kind of way. Isn't that something, folks?
• 36:32
  I think that you all should make friends with Satanists right
• 36:35
  away. These folks that are loyal and
• 36:37
  they'll defend you. Very good missing mod, How are
• 36:40
  you doing? I feel kind of bad for you.
• 36:42
  I watched one of your latest videos lately.
• 36:45
  I hope you got some sleep. Yeah, I did.
• 36:47
  I did actually. And I'm glad that you brought
• 36:50
  that up because I wanted to say I seen his recent video and he
• 36:54
  sounds really good to me. He sounds like he's relaxed a
• 36:58
  lot more. He's not as high stressed.
• 37:00
  And yeah, I just think it's good news.
• 37:03
  He seemed pretty calm. Who's who you talking about?
• 37:07
  Oh, talking about Skyler, the guy that, you know, I was
• 37:11
  stressed about. But oh, I I didn't see.
• 37:14
  I didn't. I don't watch the Skyler person
• 37:16
  that you're talking about. I'm aware of your big Mama
• 37:19
  person that you have on there, but sounded like he had some
• 37:22
  trouble with a few different folks.
• 37:24
  I hope that got worked out for you.
• 37:27
  Yeah, it's all good now. I'm happy and I slept like a
• 37:30
  rock today. There you go.
• 37:34
  I've been sleeping like a rock for the past two days.
• 37:38
  Let's tell people what happened to you, Lucifer.
• 37:40
  Some evil came upon him. Oh man, oh man, we had that 24
• 37:45
  hour bug hit us and I've been all hopped up on meds to get
• 37:52
  over Woohoo. I see pretty lady, but yeah, so
• 37:58
  just haven't been feeling all that great.
• 38:02
  Yeah, been laying down, sleeping on the couch and that's about
• 38:07
  it. You know what the best thing to
• 38:10
  prevent any kind of bug like that is?
• 38:12
  Vitamin C Just eat a lot of oranges and vitamin C It's
• 38:16
  really good for you. It'll keep you from ever getting
• 38:17
  sick. Oh yeah, I I don't, I shouldn't
• 38:20
  say that. A lot of pineapple, you know,
• 38:23
  whenever we can, love pineapples.
• 38:27
  Uh oh. We got us a guest here.
• 38:29
  They got a weird name so we might get a racial slur.
• 38:33
  Or they want to rape our face or something.
• 38:35
  Hold on. Hello there, BM.
• 38:37
  How are you? It's me.
• 38:40
  It's you. What does that mean?
• 38:42
  It means black metal. Oh, oh, it's black metal or
• 38:46
  sorry about that. I thought you were about to say
• 38:48
  something nasty. Oh.
• 38:50
  Jeez, I was just. Making it a joke because I
• 38:53
  remember Lucifer Lake Gorgon would say I keep forgetting
• 38:55
  taking my meds. So I decided to make a little
• 38:57
  joke out of it. Oh, it's all good.
• 39:00
  Well, you're up and. Geez, Thanks.
• 39:03
  Hey, it's good to. It's good to be.
• 39:06
  Funny, all right. Well, you've been in my room
• 39:10
  long enough to see that I deal with some evil sometimes.
• 39:14
  Here we go. Let's put Miss and Maude on the
• 39:15
  big screen. She's got that cool eyeball
• 39:18
  thing going. It looks like something I've
• 39:19
  seen in Starfield. Oh, that's what brand of Angel
• 39:25
  is that Miss and Maude? I don't know.
• 39:28
  I don't know their names like that, but.
• 39:30
  Seraphim. It's from.
• 39:32
  It's from Ezekiel. I can look it up.
• 39:33
  I don't. Know I I think it's either
• 39:36
  something like Seraphim or whatnot.
• 39:38
  People would be really fucking freaked out if they realized
• 39:42
  that this is actually a more accurate depiction according to
• 39:45
  the Bible and biblical lore, that that's what angels look
• 39:50
  like. They don't look like fun little
• 39:52
  babies with wings or anything like that.
• 39:55
  They look like something out of a Lovecraft story.
• 39:59
  Yeah, yeah, that's. I was just talking to somebody
• 40:02
  about that last night. I think it was maybe, I don't
• 40:06
  know, I don't know. But yeah, I love that one.
• 40:08
  It's so cool. And it's got Ezekiel down there.
• 40:11
  I know it was a vision, but still.
• 40:13
  I like it. Definitely keeps you focused on
• 40:17
  it the whole time, I noticed. We got, we got somebody right
• 40:20
  here, Antonio Rodriguez, I think his husband name is Brown, he
• 40:24
  says. I'm a Satanist and I have many
• 40:27
  friends who are Christians, and atheists never once have had an
• 40:30
  issue. Well, I think it's a social
• 40:33
  media thing. What do you think, missing Ma?
• 40:35
  Do you think atheists is simply act out when they're on the
• 40:38
  Internet, or do you think they're more nicer when they're
• 40:40
  off the computer? Well, yeah, definitely.
• 40:43
  Cuz I've never had, I've never had an atheist come at me at
• 40:47
  all. You know, like out in real life
• 40:49
  and throughout my life, like it's just never even been a
• 40:51
  thing, you know, I. Don't have that is true.
• 40:55
  That is true. I've been out in public and
• 40:58
  people have recognized me and they said, hey Brad, how you
• 41:02
  doing? But I've never had somebody
• 41:03
  compensate. I'm an atheist.
• 41:05
  I really didn't like your 5 minute video about two years
• 41:09
  ago. I'm I have to take you out back
• 41:11
  or something now. I never had to deal with
• 41:13
  anything like that. So you might be right.
• 41:16
  I look at it, I look at the Internet and people's
• 41:18
  personalities is kind of like what's going on in their mind,
• 41:21
  right? Like, 'cause they're saying
• 41:22
  things in their mind when they meet someone that doesn't
• 41:24
  believe the same, they're thinking these things, but they
• 41:26
  don't say them, you know, as you might get smacked.
• 41:29
  But I've never had an encounter at all like like I have online.
• 41:34
  It could be also that I wear leather jackets and trench
• 41:38
  coats, 6 foot five, 250 lbs of pure sexually erotic power.
• 41:43
  Maybe it intimidates him not to want to do something to me out
• 41:45
  in public. I don't know.
• 41:47
  Exactly, yeah. What do you think, Mr. Lucifer?
• 41:52
  We're quite the beast, right? Oh, besides, doesn't matter
• 41:57
  much. It's all in the motion of the
• 41:59
  ocean. But as Her Majesty said before
• 42:03
  her passing, you can't get to England very fast in a rowboat.
• 42:11
  But anyways, Nah, I'm just sitting here, sitting in my
• 42:16
  coffee listening to everybody. And no, I have never had an
• 42:19
  atheist come up to me in person. I've had Islamic people come at
• 42:24
  me in person trying to cut my head off.
• 42:27
  That's the funny part. But I've never had an atheist or
• 42:32
  anybody come at me in person. And I'll tell you exactly why.
• 42:35
  It's because they don't have the protection of the computer
• 42:37
  monitor between me and them. They're forced at that point to
• 42:41
  talk to me face to face. Yeah.
• 42:44
  Yeah. Your friend's trying to ask you
• 42:49
  permission for something there, Brett.
• 42:52
  You I think that he wants to make a video where he shows
• 42:56
  himself trying to get into the conversation or whatever I I
• 43:00
  guess he wants to. Go pay attention to the
• 43:03
  copyright notice at the beginning of the video.
• 43:06
  That that's why I would just let him in and whatever happens,
• 43:09
  just, you know, roll with it. Well, I think that, I think, I
• 43:14
  think that Lucifer would be more open to it.
• 43:16
  But right now he's sick and you know, he doesn't want to get
• 43:19
  into a big old mess and all that.
• 43:22
  And besides, don't didn't you want your opportunity to be able
• 43:25
  to ask questions about magic and some of the things about
• 43:28
  Satanism? Well, yeah, but he doesn't
• 43:30
  really. He seems like he's not really
• 43:32
  feeling that feeling like a conversation like that.
• 43:35
  So I was just. You know, I'm gay.
• 43:36
  I'm gay. I'm rolling with it, just
• 43:38
  rolling with whatever. He's just not in the mood to be
• 43:41
  screaming and yelling and and playing, playing Internet
• 43:45
  footsies. That's all.
• 43:46
  Go ahead. Oh.
• 43:49
  Yeah, I'm just not in the mood to be dealing with people's
• 43:52
  stupidity. That's about it.
• 43:54
  Well, you're gonna have to deal with mine, so.
• 43:57
  Oh well, you don't ever really seem like you're stupid to me,
• 44:00
  so I think you're fine. Thanks.
• 44:02
  Thank you. I'm just joking anyway people
• 44:07
  think I am. So it's all.
• 44:10
  Good. And all of us sometimes feel
• 44:12
  like that sometimes. Yeah.
• 44:15
  And don't mind me, I'm just playing some Halo 2.
• 44:19
  Well, there you go. Well, miss and Mod, what would
• 44:21
  you like to ask? Now's the time.
• 44:24
  Let. Me think there was something
• 44:28
  earlier that I thought about too.
• 44:29
  But see, I'd have to think about it.
• 44:30
  You got to give me a second. Every time that you've been out
• 44:33
  in comments, you've been interested in spells and magic
• 44:37
  and voodoo. I am like.
• 44:39
  I I really am like, I don't know though, because I'm not really
• 44:43
  sure like I'd have to think about it.
• 44:46
  It just comes to me sometimes. I don't know it's when the topic
• 44:49
  comes up or something. All right, I'll tell you what.
• 44:53
  I'll tell you what. And while you're thinking about
• 44:55
  it, I'm going to tell you guys a joke real quick.
• 44:57
  Are you right? Well, I'm.
• 45:00
  Ready. All right, here you go.
• 45:01
  What do you got when you have two green balls in your hand?
• 45:05
  A. Tennis ball.
• 45:08
  No Kermit the Froggies. Full attention.
• 45:14
  I think I've heard. That that was a pretty good big.
• 45:20
  Laugh. Yeah.
• 45:22
  That was fucking. Hilarious.
• 45:28
  All right, so OK, here's here's one more joke for you guys.
• 45:33
  I'm trying to get my friend loose for feeling better.
• 45:35
  Why does Mike Tyson, the former world champion of the world, cry
• 45:41
  after sex? 'Cause he bit a ear off.
• 45:46
  No, the reason why Mike Tyson cries after sex is because of
• 45:51
  Mace. Oh geez.
• 45:55
  Mace. Yeah, Mace.
• 45:58
  Oh geez, was he Is he a ferret? You guys don't get it.
• 46:03
  You know what? No.
• 46:04
  And now I'm even more confused. Oh, well, Mike Tyson was accused
• 46:09
  of a lot of bad things. Oh, rape.
• 46:11
  OK, OK. All right, let me try one more.
• 46:20
  Let me try one more on you guys and hopefully this doesn't take
• 46:24
  5 minutes to hit you. All right, here it is.
• 46:27
  Mike Tyson recently went into Pizza Hut and he ordered a bunch
• 46:31
  of pizza and he's finishing it off and the waitress comes up
• 46:34
  and says, Mr. Tyson, would you like a box for your pizza?
• 46:39
  And he gets up, knocks shit out of her, Oh wait, damn, he said.
• 46:44
  Do you want a box for your pizza?
• 46:46
  And he thought she wanted a box. Wow.
• 46:51
  OK, that's the one way to basically reward the history.
• 46:55
  Give Holtz. Hey, it's a joke, man.
• 46:59
  It's a joke. I was fucking with you.
• 47:04
  I got it. That was pretty funny.
• 47:06
  That was pretty funny. That's a dumb question.
• 47:09
  I mean, who wants a box or their pizza?
• 47:11
  I mean, it's a joke though. It's not like you made it up,
• 47:13
  I'm sure. No.
• 47:15
  Well see, I'm sitting here and I've been eating pizza all day.
• 47:18
  It's the only thing I've really had in like 2 days now and
• 47:22
  nothing quite like getting over to a cold or whatever than to
• 47:25
  eat Ninja Turtle food. Well, you know.
• 47:29
  The same man you. Know.
• 47:31
  But if you go to get Pizza Hut or Domino's and all that and
• 47:34
  you're sitting on the table and you don't finish it off, you can
• 47:36
  ask for a box to take it with you.
• 47:38
  The rest of what you what you ordered, right?
• 47:41
  Right. Yeah.
• 47:43
  My state Casey's Pizza. They're like one of the best
• 47:45
  pizzas. There you go.
• 47:48
  That's funny. Hey Brad, I can get a message
• 47:55
  over on Twitter. Well, come on guys, let's get
• 48:00
  some topics going on. I'm going to give you some more
• 48:02
  lame jokes. I know.
• 48:03
  That's that's why I'm like you should let rage in.
• 48:05
  That'll get a topic going. No, that'll just get all
• 48:08
  shouting at people and I don't want to be shouting at people.
• 48:11
  Oh. That that just.
• 48:12
  Like each other. Oh no, It'll be like I racks.
• 48:16
  I'm just not in the mood to be dealing with stupidity.
• 48:19
  I have no pick temper. I have no temperament for
• 48:22
  atheists anymore. I have no temperament for
• 48:24
  idiots. He's sitting there saying that
• 48:26
  he could get my copyright strike lifted off of him.
• 48:30
  Oh, that's what he. Wants to talk about OK, uh, huh,
• 48:33
  He wants to bitch, piss and moan.
• 48:35
  He he wants to have it his way. And I'm not in the mood to give
• 48:40
  him any sort of platform to do that because all he's looking to
• 48:44
  do, and besides, it's been over 10 days.
• 48:47
  He couldn't get it lifted if he wanted to.
• 48:49
  At this point, you have to do it within 10 days.
• 48:52
  Something. Else.
• 48:55
  No, if he if he wanted to talk about other topics, we probably
• 48:59
  would have been more open. You know me, miss and mod.
• 49:02
  If somebody wants to come in and yell and scream, as long as they
• 49:04
  don't say they're going to rape my face or call me the N word, I
• 49:07
  usually listen for a little bit. You remember my policy, right?
• 49:11
  Folks, If you're going to troll me, you got to be entertaining
• 49:15
  when you do it. Don't worry, I'll deal with the
• 49:17
  trolls like I usually like to troll other people, AKA the
• 49:20
  wings, who are trying to attempt trolling.
• 49:25
  You. Know what's really funny is he's
• 49:27
  saying that I'm so fucking scared of him, yet you know, if
• 49:32
  you're If you're not scared of me, give me your address, give
• 49:36
  me your full name, and let's actually see things in court.
• 49:40
  Let's actually take it to the courtroom, dude.
• 49:43
  When give me all the information, I will file the
• 49:45
  court papers and you and I can face each other in person.
• 49:50
  I have no beef with that. Oh, I'll definitely would watch
• 49:54
  it. Mr. Darth, how are you?
• 49:59
  Yeah, what's that? What's happening?
• 50:01
  Seems there's a bit of a rage Rage and Stream Rage in the
• 50:06
  chat. It makes me, it makes me want to
• 50:09
  sing a song looking for love and all the wrong places.
• 50:14
  You ever heard that one? Oh, welcome to the 80s, folks.
• 50:17
  After all. Hate from the. 80s, You're not
• 50:21
  hating on the 80s. Those were the best time in
• 50:23
  life. True, that was.
• 50:25
  Like the 80s? Metal more than 80s pop.
• 50:28
  What are you talking about? 80's rock and metal and pop I.
• 50:36
  Think you're hauling notes? Probably.
• 50:42
  Why? Why am I seeing?
• 50:43
  I see Robin's comment in the in the stream yard, but I don't see
• 50:49
  it on YouTube. Why?
• 50:52
  I wonder. I don't know.
• 50:53
  Don't know. Oh, by the way, Miss and Mother.
• 50:55
  Don't know if you realize this. I know you use stream yards, but
• 50:59
  if you come into the room before a show starts, you can actually
• 51:03
  connect it and broadcast the show over to your own YouTube
• 51:06
  channel. You have permission as long as
• 51:09
  you're actually a part of the show.
• 51:11
  Oh, cool. Thank you.
• 51:13
  Yeah. What I was.
• 51:15
  Asking to talk about now actually answers Raging's
• 51:18
  questions. Do I have permission to show
• 51:20
  anything here? No, you don't have permission.
• 51:22
  You're not part of the show. I wish you guys would have been
• 51:27
  able to work things out earlier. I know Lucifer gave it as as
• 51:31
  good college try, but you were just too damn mean.
• 51:33
  Their rage over and over and over, raging.
• 51:38
  Oh, so he did a bad, bad review or something?
• 51:41
  No, Lucifer tried to say, hey man, if you want to come on the
• 51:44
  show and talk, we'll do that. We did an entire show.
• 51:47
  He didn't show up, and then he started calling them names in
• 51:51
  the comments. So that's the reason why
• 51:53
  Lucifer's like I had to hell with them three times as a
• 51:56
  charm. Yeah, I I have no patience for
• 52:00
  idiots. And that's all he you know, if
• 52:03
  he wants to face me, he can face me in person, in real life.
• 52:06
  Not with the protection of a computer monitor.
• 52:09
  We can actually be standing in person together, and it could be
• 52:15
  in a courtroom, it could be in a field, it could be in a boxing
• 52:18
  ring. I don't fucking care.
• 52:19
  I mean, do you really want to get in a fight over this?
• 52:23
  Because it's stupid. I personally don't like 7.
• 52:24
  Foot tall, he's a pretty big. I don't give him a flipping
• 52:28
  fuck. Oh, yeah, he's like Matt.
• 52:32
  Who's the other guy he debated. Matt.
• 52:33
  Matt Powell. Matt Powell.
• 52:36
  There you go. He's he's a little tall.
• 52:39
  I had one guy challenge me to an MMA match because I copyright
• 52:43
  struck him and I immediately accepted it in his comments and
• 52:47
  he deleted it. I actually have the screenshot
• 52:50
  of me accepting it to his comments.
• 52:53
  I remember you made a video about that.
• 52:55
  I watched it. It was fucking crazy.
• 53:02
  Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
• 53:03
  It's. Like Raging Pussy over there
• 53:05
  just started to talk shit. More kind of fucking hilarious,
• 53:07
  like an average locale ever does is talk shit.
• 53:11
  Well, let's. Do this like flip thing recently
• 53:15
  where he's like back on the hate train again.
• 53:17
  I thought that was kind of weird.
• 53:19
  You know what, Brett just get raging out of here.
• 53:21
  He doesn't need to be the topic of this live stream, and he's
• 53:24
  just going to be sitting camping out in the comment section
• 53:27
  trying. To provoke.
• 53:29
  All right, we'll give him a time out.
• 53:31
  Send them. I don't send them in the corner
• 53:33
  for a little bit. I wish I could use a dark side
• 53:35
  field. Clippy.
• 53:36
  It starts going on. How about this?
• 53:37
  Bam. Bam, Bam, Bam.
• 53:39
  Bam. Gone forever.
• 53:43
  I don't know. Banning.
• 53:43
  People I don't like. Having people banned, but if
• 53:46
  they're going to cause a problem and it's going to be an ongoing
• 53:49
  problem like raging was there, you know, then yeah, you got to
• 53:54
  remove them. So he's he's sitting in the
• 53:57
  corner having a time out with his pacifier.
• 54:00
  I'll go ahead and throw some topics out there and and get
• 54:03
  things going. So what is the most unusual
• 54:08
  spell or our magic that you've ever seen in an outcome?
• 54:16
  I've actually well in Satanism, there's three basic types of
• 54:21
  spells. There's lust, destruction and
• 54:25
  compassion. We were me and my girl.
• 54:28
  We were doing a destruction ritual years ago, and we
• 54:32
  actually had a physical demonic manifestation.
• 54:37
  And what that basically means is a demon actually showed up in
• 54:41
  the flesh. It was pretty interesting how
• 54:47
  did it. Look like.
• 54:50
  Well, this one. Now, here's the thing.
• 54:52
  It looked like a little old bat, just a normal bat.
• 54:55
  But we were in the basement. There was, it was a completely
• 54:58
  sealed basement. This is up in Maryland, by the
• 55:00
  way. It was a completely sealed
• 55:02
  basement. We checked the basement on the
• 55:04
  before and after and there was no way for this thing to get in
• 55:08
  or out of there. There was no scat.
• 55:11
  There was no signs or anything, and we had been going through
• 55:17
  the ritual for some time. By the time this thing actually
• 55:21
  showed up, it flew around us. It landed on my girly and flew
• 55:26
  around me, and then it disappeared into nowhere.
• 55:29
  We searched high and low for that thing.
• 55:32
  We searched every nook and cranny, wherever this thing
• 55:36
  might have landed because we were like, wait a second.
• 55:38
  If this is an actual bat, then it's trapped down here and we
• 55:41
  need to get it out of here. No sign of it, no body, no scat.
• 55:46
  I've worked with bats before, so I know what their scat looks
• 55:49
  like. And it was it was just gone.
• 55:53
  It was gone out of nowhere. But within weeks, we one of our
• 55:58
  targets, their house catches on fire, another one gets into a
• 56:02
  car wreck, another one's life goes down the shit, he gets
• 56:07
  everything repoed. His house gets foreclosed on.
• 56:11
  It it just all sorts of craziness starts happening.
• 56:16
  And what what was the exchange for this deed?
• 56:20
  Oh, that's personal. This was, well, one of the
• 56:24
  targets I will say was my ex-wife.
• 56:29
  So that that should give you a little bit of an idea on the
• 56:34
  severity of the situation. Well, there's no worry because
• 56:37
  the court doesn't acknowledge witchcraft.
• 56:39
  So they can't condemn you for witchcraft?
• 56:43
  No, they can't condemn me for witchcraft.
• 56:45
  They can't do anything like that.
• 56:47
  But still, it's one of those situations where it's like that.
• 56:51
  It's in the past. But I so I'd rather not deal
• 56:54
  with it. Garcia, can you mute your mic
• 56:57
  when other people are talking, please?
• 56:59
  Yeah. Thank you.
• 57:00
  From you. Yeah.
• 57:02
  I find that strange because. Oh, go ahead.
• 57:08
  I had myself, yeah. Sorry, I had myself.
• 57:11
  And I didn't. Realize so I find it strange
• 57:13
  like when you do a testimony in the court you know you have to
• 57:15
  square upon the Bible but this is you know acknowledgement of
• 57:19
  of a deity. But they won't do
• 57:22
  acknowledgements like somebody uses witchcraft to commit murder
• 57:26
  they can get away with that murder because witchcraft is not
• 57:29
  acknowledged by the courts. So it's it's a blatant
• 57:33
  contradiction right there. Exactly.
• 57:35
  It it it's really interesting. I mean, how do you get charged
• 57:39
  for anything if you've killed a person by a curse?
• 57:44
  You know, casting a curse from a distance and then just letting
• 57:47
  it run its course and say that person's dies?
• 57:52
  I've had people actually die from my curses, but I could say
• 57:56
  yes, this was probably due to my curse and yet I could never be
• 58:00
  charged with it. Yeah, I mean I think that also
• 58:04
  maybe apply because astral projection.
• 58:06
  Like let's say somebody uses astral projection to commit a
• 58:09
  murder or a killing. The courts can never charge them
• 58:12
  because astral projection is not acknowledged by the courts.
• 58:17
  Well, Von von Hilton said. You can't.
• 58:18
  You can't do anything like you can only observe.
• 58:23
  I don't know. I.
• 58:23
  Don't know if that's true or. Not I I mean, if you let
• 58:27
  somebody could achieve, you know, psychicness, psychic, you
• 58:30
  know, like, you know, like pyromancy.
• 58:35
  I don't know what that is. Setting you on fire.
• 58:38
  Have you ever seen the movie Fire Starter?
• 58:41
  Yeah. Use your minds for things.
• 58:44
  Yeah, setting things on fire with your mind.
• 58:49
  Because the disaster disaster projection is just, you know,
• 58:53
  the mind leaving the body and so.
• 58:57
  Yeah, that's that's how have you heard the story about Anton
• 59:02
  Lavey's daughter and how Anton Lavey died.
• 59:06
  It was from he was doing astral projection and he the.
• 59:10
  It's just such a long story. There's so much that goes into
• 59:12
  it. But his daughter was trying to
• 59:15
  get help by this family, this Christian family and they were
• 59:17
  helping. But he, you know obviously she
• 59:19
  had, he was able to ask for project and go into her body and
• 59:22
  stuff and talk to these guys through her.
• 59:25
  And he was trying to get her back for some some ritual that
• 59:28
  they were doing and they ended up getting her there getting her
• 59:32
  to some hotel and he was doing he was doing something and they
• 59:35
  they kept praying to cut the silver cord and he he literally
• 59:39
  died right there. That's a loaded BS.
• 59:44
  I don't know. I mean, you can look, you can
• 59:45
  look the story up, but there's a lot.
• 59:46
  There's witnesses, you know, the people that actually took her
• 59:49
  in. Our Tom Lebay missing.
• 59:52
  Yeah, Lemmy and Tom Lebay was in a coma for at least two weeks
• 59:57
  before he passed away. He was in a medically induced
• 1:00:00
  coma. On top of that, he was
• 1:00:02
  intubated. He died of pulmonary edema.
• 1:00:06
  The people that were in his hospital room, he died in a
• 1:00:09
  hospital. It was his daughter Carla, from
• 1:00:13
  what I understand, his grandson Stanton and his lover at the
• 1:00:19
  time, Blanche Barton Xena, his other daughter.
• 1:00:24
  Had moved to Germany and had completely severed ties, so I
• 1:00:34
  mean. I don't know.
• 1:00:34
  I I can't argue with you about it.
• 1:00:36
  I don't know. Yeah, we we don't know the
• 1:00:37
  history. Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah. I'm not trying to sit here.
• 1:00:42
  I know a lot of Christians like to spread rumors about Anton
• 1:00:45
  Lavey. I mean, who wouldn't?
• 1:00:46
  I mean, he's the guy who called himself the black Pope.
• 1:00:49
  The public acknowledged him as black, Pope and everything else,
• 1:00:53
  but we've got to, I think, the devil acknowledgement.
• 1:00:56
  That too. Right.
• 1:00:58
  Well, yeah. But we've got to disseminate,
• 1:01:02
  you know, what is fact from fiction in order to have the
• 1:01:05
  best accurate depiction of what went on there.
• 1:01:09
  And we can't allow, and I would think even Christians could not
• 1:01:13
  allow any sort of fictitious dissimation be going on because
• 1:01:19
  the moment they started promoting, if something that's a
• 1:01:22
  fiction, they just blow their own arguments out of the water
• 1:01:24
  when it gets proven untrue. Just like what I just said right
• 1:01:28
  there. He was intubated, which means he
• 1:01:31
  had a tube down his throat, he couldn't speak, and he was in a
• 1:01:34
  medically induced coma with pulmonary edema.
• 1:01:38
  A lot of Christians tried to say at his last seconds, he said, Oh
• 1:01:41
  my, Oh my, something's wrong, you know, something's wrong.
• 1:01:45
  And then he died. How could he have said that when
• 1:01:47
  he's got a tube crammed down his throat and he's unconscious?
• 1:01:51
  Yeah, see, I know I didn't hear anything like that.
• 1:01:53
  And I heard that he was. After oh, that's a popular
• 1:01:56
  rumor. That's a popular myth.
• 1:01:59
  I'm sure there's there's ones out there of him getting saved
• 1:02:02
  too, you know, at his last, his last moment.
• 1:02:05
  Yeah, that's another one. It says that he, you know, he
• 1:02:09
  got saved in his last seconds, that he called for the priest
• 1:02:12
  and because he was in a Catholic hospital and it was like Saint
• 1:02:16
  Mary's something, and that he called for a priest and took,
• 1:02:22
  you know, confession and converted at the last second he
• 1:02:25
  was saved. And it's not true.
• 1:02:29
  OK, well now I got a question. I was what about backfired
• 1:02:33
  curses? Have you, have you had any
• 1:02:34
  experience with them or know anybody that has?
• 1:02:38
  Yeah, curses. Backfiring is a thing.
• 1:02:41
  It can happen. You got to be careful about when
• 1:02:45
  you're giving a curse, because if you're not committed to it,
• 1:02:48
  yeah, it can backfire. A lot of that is especially true
• 1:02:53
  with Wicca, because Wicca has what's called the Threefold Law,
• 1:02:58
  and what the Threefold Law is, it's karma.
• 1:03:00
  Basically, anything you put out will come back to you times 3.
• 1:03:05
  It'll come back to you times 3 physically, spiritually and
• 1:03:10
  emotionally or mentally. However you want to look at that
• 1:03:15
  and you know so you know 3 * 3 * 3 type deal.
• 1:03:21
  It's a whole big compound thing. If your curses aren't accurate,
• 1:03:27
  if you aren't fully dedicated to them, and especially in certain
• 1:03:31
  instances, if you are not justified in casting a curse,
• 1:03:35
  cause certain deities they will make sure that you are actually
• 1:03:39
  justified in your anger. And before they carry it out,
• 1:03:44
  then yeah, and what? What class?
• 1:03:47
  What classifieds? Something as justified versus
• 1:03:50
  not justified? That's a good question.
• 1:03:52
  I would, I would say it would all be circumstantial on how you
• 1:03:57
  feel that you were wronged if you feel that you were deeply
• 1:04:01
  wrong. Like say somebody breaks into
• 1:04:03
  your house and the person you know, they kill your dog, they
• 1:04:07
  steal your shit and they never get caught, but you have a
• 1:04:11
  portion of their blood. You can use that to curse them.
• 1:04:15
  That would be justifiable. But if somebody just bad mouths
• 1:04:19
  you on the street, or like say if raging a like that raging
• 1:04:22
  guy, he wants to run his mouth. Yeah, I could cast a curse on
• 1:04:26
  him because he's being a douchebag, but I'm not really
• 1:04:28
  justified just because he's running his mouth.
• 1:04:33
  Yep. Man, I'm so glad you said that.
• 1:04:37
  I think somebody put a bad spell on my damn tacos that I ate
• 1:04:41
  earlier. I have.
• 1:04:44
  Returned. Oh, that's.
• 1:04:46
  Not good, I find it. I find it funny of the idea of
• 1:04:50
  demons being more realistic. I've been hearing about all
• 1:04:55
  these guys lately who want to have babies and stuff and know
• 1:04:59
  what it's like. I know what it's like.
• 1:05:01
  I don't want to do it again. Dude, I didn't know you had a
• 1:05:06
  cooter installed. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Oh, it looks like we got somebody called the Big Icky
• 1:05:13
  that's wants to come in. Shall we see what they're about?
• 1:05:17
  Uh oh uh. Oh, Big Icky.
• 1:05:19
  Oh, this is going to be what's your story?
• 1:05:22
  OK. What I.
• 1:05:24
  Didn't get the last word Talk about.
• 1:05:27
  It you just kick him, kick him, you you can tell the way that he
• 1:05:31
  was talking, it was just about. Why?
• 1:05:34
  Why kick me? Why?
• 1:05:35
  Why? Why we?
• 1:05:36
  Just kick him. What?
• 1:05:51
  That's that atheist, humanist behavior that we hear.
• 1:05:55
  Yeah, that is the enraging atheist.
• 1:06:00
  I know what's really sad, Mr. Icky, is I was actually trying
• 1:06:05
  to defend you. I was supporting you.
• 1:06:08
  I was rooting for you to do the right thing.
• 1:06:10
  But under 5 seconds, you broke the atheist record of being the
• 1:06:13
  most stupidest bastard ever. Oh, that's terrible.
• 1:06:17
  They can't even, like, fake it long enough to get in.
• 1:06:20
  You know he. Wasn't even faking it when he
• 1:06:22
  came in. He was like, hi bro, just barely
• 1:06:24
  thinking about it. Just barely like dude.
• 1:06:28
  At least make up your mind. I hear you, I hear you.
• 1:06:34
  I try to have hope for the man of.
• 1:06:36
  The word too. Sorry.
• 1:06:38
  Why did they do this Hope messing mod?
• 1:06:40
  Why did they go for the N word? Why not something different?
• 1:06:43
  Why that one? Well, I think they, I think
• 1:06:46
  they're trying to either get your channel banned or, I don't
• 1:06:49
  know, because like most of them are going to be leftist.
• 1:06:52
  And it's ironic that the leftist would be using the I-1 'cause
• 1:06:55
  you know that they'll condemn the right wing for, you know,
• 1:06:57
  saying that we're all the time. They also claim to be the
• 1:07:01
  Champions of homosexuality, but they'll be the first one to tell
• 1:07:04
  you to suck your cock. You know what I mean?
• 1:07:06
  Notice that they're always projecting.
• 1:07:09
  Oh. Yeah, I mean.
• 1:07:11
  Come on, it was the Democrats that founded the KKK, and Joe
• 1:07:14
  Biden himself was funded by KKK members.
• 1:07:18
  Lucer is bringing in the history, yeah.
• 1:07:22
  Well, Joe Biden doesn't have his meds right now, so he doesn't
• 1:07:25
  even know what the hell he's part of.
• 1:07:27
  Joe Biden right now is probably sitting by with a blanket on his
• 1:07:31
  lap, napping away, sniffing somebody's hair.
• 1:07:35
  Not true. Or looking at possibly some
• 1:07:37
  really fucked up shit. You know, Joe Biden.
• 1:07:42
  I don't even think he can hear what he mean.
• 1:07:44
  Every time I see Joe Biden on television where he gets lost on
• 1:07:48
  stage, it reminds me of that scene in Pulp Fiction where John
• 1:07:51
  Travolta is kind of looking around after doing a a head of
• 1:07:55
  coke that that exact type of scene.
• 1:07:58
  Oh yes, I know you're. Yep.
• 1:08:04
  It's like, yeah, man, where am I?
• 1:08:06
  Come on, man. All right, let's get back to a
• 1:08:12
  topic everybody's thinking about a crack at moment.
• 1:08:14
  Did we actually have a topic? Oh yeah, we were talking about
• 1:08:17
  magic. Go ahead.
• 1:08:18
  What's the question? Yeah, there was something I was
• 1:08:20
  going to ask. Now I don't remember.
• 1:08:22
  What about Ouija boards? Do you believe it's possible to
• 1:08:25
  actually have like a seance and summon up like the dead or
• 1:08:30
  something to speak to them? Oh.
• 1:08:32
  Yeah, oh absolutely. I love Ouija boards.
• 1:08:34
  Interesting thing those the modern Ouija board was first
• 1:08:38
  established in Baltimore, MD. Believe it or not, I used to
• 1:08:42
  live in Maryland. It was very interesting.
• 1:08:44
  But I have numerous Ouija boards as part of my collection.
• 1:08:48
  In a shadow box in my living room, there's a Ouija board on
• 1:08:51
  the wall. I have a very beautiful Ouija
• 1:08:54
  board that is I love using. It's all wood with beautiful
• 1:08:58
  lacquer finish and it has a skull planchette.
• 1:09:02
  And you know, I've spoken to the guy who made that Ouija board.
• 1:09:06
  It was interesting because I had bought the planchette 10 years
• 1:09:10
  prior, hoping to one day find a Ouija board to partner with it.
• 1:09:15
  And I could never find a Ouija board partner with that
• 1:09:17
  planchette. Well, 10 years later, I go to
• 1:09:20
  the guy who made that planchette and he has a Ouija board for
• 1:09:24
  sale that does not have a planchette partnered with it.
• 1:09:28
  And I got that Ouija board and it was really interesting. 10
• 1:09:31
  years apart. Both items are made by the same
• 1:09:34
  guy and they came together with me and really awesome, really
• 1:09:38
  beautiful. So what is your view on this?
• 1:09:43
  Some Christians, you're probably going to say if you see see
• 1:09:46
  someone that's dead, it's not really them.
• 1:09:48
  It's going to be a demon or some kind of spirit or whatever.
• 1:09:52
  Do you believe that you can actually speak to someone that
• 1:09:56
  was once? Alive.
• 1:09:57
  Well, usually the The ones that do answer are typically demons
• 1:10:01
  because they're trying to get you to bait you into the terms
• 1:10:05
  and conditions. So basically, I'm not sure if
• 1:10:07
  you've been around YouTube or any other websites on YouTube
• 1:10:09
  and you'll jump in and then a question will come up.
• 1:10:12
  You know the question we asked use Intel's agreements, but this
• 1:10:18
  is not punctuated and that's intentionally left vague because
• 1:10:23
  it's not punctuated with the pair or it's not even punctuated
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  with question mark. So it's kind of vagueness, but
• 1:10:30
  it's. It's kind of weird, though.
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  Even though Christianity teaches that the body remains dead until
• 1:10:35
  the return of Christ, there's a lot of Christians out there and
• 1:10:39
  people who have claimed to have died.
• 1:10:42
  And you know what? I'm talking about Lucifer.
• 1:10:44
  And they say they seen. The family.
• 1:10:45
  Member. Now if their family members that
• 1:10:48
  they seen in this like a moment where they're dead are giving
• 1:10:53
  them peaceful talk and and bringing them contentment or
• 1:10:57
  joy, then why would you think they're a demon for it?
• 1:11:00
  What what? What would be the point?
• 1:11:05
  Some of them, it's most of the time in Siemens.
• 1:11:07
  But yeah, you can certainly reach, you know, other human
• 1:11:10
  spirits. The the reason the Christians
• 1:11:13
  don't think it's human spirits is because you know, their
• 1:11:16
  dogmatic Bible that tells them that human ghosts are not,
• 1:11:20
  they're neither in hell and neither in heaven.
• 1:11:22
  So they're like nowhere. They're.
• 1:11:24
  In they're asleep. They're asleep.
• 1:11:26
  Unless you're Catholic, then they're walking around in some
• 1:11:28
  kind of weird void, right? Yeah, yeah, I think the Catholic
• 1:11:33
  would be more correct. They're like in the, in the, you
• 1:11:35
  know, the afterlife. Well, the other side, you're
• 1:11:40
  still talking about Erebus, the walls of Erebus.
• 1:11:43
  And so if we're talking in movie lore, if you remember the
• 1:11:48
  Insidious movies, there's that place that they call The
• 1:11:51
  Further, which that's basically what you're talking about.
• 1:11:54
  It's the grave shield. It's the walls of Aramis.
• 1:11:58
  It's darkness. Erebus is Latin for the word
• 1:12:00
  darkness. So no, actually, when you're
• 1:12:05
  using a Ouija board, it is not always demons that come through.
• 1:12:10
  Actually, most of the time it's not a demon.
• 1:12:12
  It is actually a proper spirit. Is it always going to be a
• 1:12:16
  friendly spirit? No.
• 1:12:19
  Spirits can be hostile just as much as humans can.
• 1:12:22
  Sometimes you get a few that are just trolls, just like you would
• 1:12:26
  get here. When we get people trying to
• 1:12:30
  call in and get, you know, our fun little trolls, what is it?
• 1:12:35
  Does everything to remember about a Ouija board is it's an
• 1:12:39
  open channel. It's when you're utilizing A
• 1:12:42
  Ouija board, it's like getting on a ham radio and sending your
• 1:12:47
  signal out there. Anybody who is on the same
• 1:12:50
  frequency as you can respond. That could be a demon, that
• 1:12:54
  could be a ghost, that could be an Angel, it could be anything.
• 1:12:57
  So you don't know what is responding initially.
• 1:13:00
  And this is what makes a Ouija board so dangerous, is that
• 1:13:05
  unless you know what you're doing, you shouldn't be playing
• 1:13:09
  around with them. And if you don't know how to
• 1:13:11
  close it out or and what not, that's where people run in
• 1:13:17
  problems, do you think? That the Do you think the Ouija
• 1:13:21
  board is actually what is being used here?
• 1:13:24
  Or is it that the Ouija board causes a person to be able to
• 1:13:28
  get into the belief or zone that something's going to happen or
• 1:13:32
  get on that frequency? It's not really the board, is
• 1:13:35
  it? It's the person's belief.
• 1:13:36
  You'd think. What do you think?
• 1:13:39
  The board is just a tool. It's that's all it is.
• 1:13:42
  It's literally like a ham radio. It is a piece of equipment.
• 1:13:46
  The board itself has no more or any less, has no more power or
• 1:13:51
  any less power than what you give it.
• 1:13:53
  Yes, belief does have a play in it, but it's also treating this
• 1:13:58
  tool with a monochrome of respect.
• 1:14:00
  What you're talking about is a 2 two-part tool.
• 1:14:03
  You have the board with the alphabet on it, with numbers,
• 1:14:06
  and it's set up in a specific way.
• 1:14:09
  And then you have your plan check, which is a focal point.
• 1:14:12
  So when they're together, they're a powerful tool.
• 1:14:15
  When you separate them, they're nothing.
• 1:14:18
  And this is where most people fuck up.
• 1:14:20
  They want to store the Ouija board underneath their bed with
• 1:14:23
  the plan check sitting on top of it.
• 1:14:27
  What do you think is going to come through?
• 1:14:28
  That's like having an open doorway and then people don't
• 1:14:34
  close it out, right? They don't say goodbye, They
• 1:14:36
  don't dismiss the spirit, right? It's stupidity like that.
• 1:14:42
  And then weird shit starts happening and their own psyche
• 1:14:45
  starts getting the better of them.
• 1:14:49
  I got an interesting question for you, and this is a question
• 1:14:52
  I used to ask whenever I was before I became a Christian.
• 1:14:56
  I used to ask this to religious people.
• 1:14:58
  The question I would ask is can God and the devil actually work
• 1:15:03
  out their issues? I'd love to hear, from a Satanic
• 1:15:06
  perspective, can God and the devil actually work out the
• 1:15:10
  differences? Look at the book of Job.
• 1:15:14
  Satan had already left heaven at that point.
• 1:15:17
  God calls the conference of his angels not once but twice.
• 1:15:21
  Satan shows up. God's like, what are you doing
• 1:15:24
  here? It's like, I'm still one of your
• 1:15:26
  angels. You called for a conference here
• 1:15:28
  I am. So yeah, that's right.
• 1:15:32
  In the Bible, guys, that's book of Job.
• 1:15:34
  I never. Thought about that.
• 1:15:35
  I never thought about it like that.
• 1:15:38
  Well, it's true, he does. He does interact with him and
• 1:15:41
  there's quite a few times, especially in the New Testament,
• 1:15:44
  where Satan seems to have Jesus's number and Jesus has
• 1:15:48
  his, so they do have contact for sure.
• 1:15:51
  Yeah. Well, I don't think they they
• 1:15:55
  could ever resolve their differences because the
• 1:15:58
  difference is that God is God and that the devil wants to be
• 1:16:02
  God. Only one can be, you know, God.
• 1:16:05
  Which is to say, almighty, show me where in the Bible Satan says
• 1:16:08
  he wants to be God. I mean, that wasn't a little
• 1:16:11
  point of his rebellion. Well, that's that's something
• 1:16:15
  that a lot of religious folks will say.
• 1:16:17
  But if if you look, the only time Satan is mentioned as God
• 1:16:21
  is in the New Testament whenever it says Satan is the God of this
• 1:16:25
  world, but that's God actually declaring that Satan is God of
• 1:16:29
  this world, God of the name. Satan is declared the God of the
• 1:16:33
  flesh and of this world. But yeah, but but it's strange
• 1:16:37
  'cause you He says Satan is the God of the nations.
• 1:16:41
  But if you go in the Old Testament, Yahweh is the God of
• 1:16:43
  the nations. Yahweh, which is also known as
• 1:16:47
  Sekel or Yaldebeoth or any number of other names, is a
• 1:16:53
  creator deity. That's all he is.
• 1:16:56
  He's a deity that created our creation.
• 1:17:00
  Now whether or not he had permission to do that is totally
• 1:17:04
  debatable. And off this topic, he is a
• 1:17:07
  creator deity, but Satan, Even in the Bible you can actually
• 1:17:12
  look this up. In the Bible, Satan is flat out
• 1:17:15
  declared as the God of this world and of the flesh.
• 1:17:21
  I'm looking at Mark Reed out here.
• 1:17:23
  Mark Reed's a decent fella. He's welcome to come in if he
• 1:17:26
  likes. He's.
• 1:17:27
  He's not a theist though. He says.
• 1:17:29
  Actually, generally it stated that angels rebelled because God
• 1:17:33
  loved humans more than angels. I've heard that, but I don't
• 1:17:36
  recall in the Bible where God actually says that he loves
• 1:17:40
  humans more than angels and all that.
• 1:17:42
  It seems like the Angel serving, whether they're doing something
• 1:17:46
  horrific or good or sending a message.
• 1:17:50
  I I think the devil persuaded him myself, because whatever his
• 1:17:54
  problem was. Well, see, The thing is is
• 1:17:59
  originally, and this is how our literature is.
• 1:18:03
  Is that the angels came to life at the same time as God,
• 1:18:08
  Lucifer, Mark, R Michael and God, excuse me, I got the burp
• 1:18:14
  UPS now. They all woke up at the same
• 1:18:18
  time and then God create, you know, started to say hey
• 1:18:22
  everybody serves me. And the angels weren't really
• 1:18:28
  arguing with that. And the Lucifer was like, wait a
• 1:18:30
  second, We all have our own intelligence, our own
• 1:18:34
  creativity. We should choose whether or not
• 1:18:37
  we want to serve you or not. And he flashed his light, his
• 1:18:41
  brilliance, his illumination to all the angels, and gave them
• 1:18:45
  the power of choice. And that's what caused the the
• 1:18:50
  rebellion that was the actual initial rebellion, was that
• 1:18:55
  Lucifer revealed to the angels that they had a choice of who
• 1:18:58
  they wanted to serve. Oh.
• 1:19:02
  I think people must get the stuff from the book of the
• 1:19:05
  Apocrypha. Or do you got something else
• 1:19:09
  lore wise to get this from? Yeah, you can find this in the
• 1:19:13
  Gnostic texts. Yeah, that's The Gnostic texts
• 1:19:18
  are actually gonna be one of the biggest locations to find.
• 1:19:23
  Most of the Satanic literature because it gives it is Christian
• 1:19:27
  lore, but it gives an alternative to Christian war.
• 1:19:30
  And even Satanists say the Gnostic texts were some of the
• 1:19:33
  oldest Satanic literature there is.
• 1:19:37
  I think the Gnostics texts have like some.
• 1:19:39
  Of the more. Interesting parts of the Bible
• 1:19:41
  because like at one point Judas takes the Jesus aside and then
• 1:19:47
  he tells Jesus upon which he had a vision in which Christians
• 1:19:51
  will will be the ones who lead, the will be the ones who lead
• 1:19:55
  the downfall of man, he tells Jesus.
• 1:19:59
  I saw upon the altar of of how people sacrifice kids and
• 1:20:04
  mutilate themselves, and took in took upon degeneracy, and the
• 1:20:08
  ones who were promoting this were the Apostles, and then
• 1:20:14
  Jesus. Well, it does make sense.
• 1:20:18
  When you read the Book of Revelation, who's the first
• 1:20:21
  group of people that God goes after?
• 1:20:24
  The Church goes after the hypocrisy and the Sadducees and
• 1:20:28
  all that? Exactly.
• 1:20:31
  I always think about it or I say it like this, like the Bible is
• 1:20:34
  a legal document. And so I don't think that the
• 1:20:37
  the things that were put in it are are important to the end and
• 1:20:41
  what what's going to happen to judgment, you know, But it
• 1:20:43
  explains like how how we got there.
• 1:20:45
  But it leaves out things that aren't that you know, that
• 1:20:48
  aren't that important, I guess, is what I think.
• 1:20:50
  Who wrote the the Gnostic Gospels do we know?
• 1:20:55
  Just like the normal Bible, there was many different authors
• 1:20:59
  to it. The the Gnostic texts come from
• 1:21:02
  several different Gnostic tribes that they were deliberately kept
• 1:21:06
  out. They were deliberately kept out
• 1:21:11
  of the Bible and yeah. You know what I get myself in
• 1:21:19
  trouble with? Missing Maude and Mr. Lucifer.
• 1:21:22
  You've probably heard. Have you heard of the
• 1:21:24
  Christians? They, they have kind of a name
• 1:21:27
  for them called the Greasy Gracers.
• 1:21:29
  Have you ever heard of that? Oh.
• 1:21:30
  Yeah, free grace. I'm fighting them all the time.
• 1:21:34
  Yeah, the the issue that I have besides the the verse and James
• 1:21:39
  versus faith without works is dead.
• 1:21:41
  It actually tells you in Revelation that God's going to
• 1:21:44
  not only judge us on our faith, but our works.
• 1:21:48
  So I'm always hearing religious folks, you know, running around
• 1:21:50
  like chickens with their head cut off saying, oh, it's not
• 1:21:53
  important works. You can literally sit around all
• 1:21:55
  day eating Twinkies and Doritos and just pray to Jesus every
• 1:21:58
  once. So on you're saved.
• 1:21:59
  But seems like there's a little bit more to that.
• 1:22:02
  And that really pisses off religious folks.
• 1:22:04
  That's why I can't go to church often.
• 1:22:06
  I mean if you if you if you actually push them on them the
• 1:22:09
  the graffiti graces, they will admit that you can be like a
• 1:22:12
  horrendous serial killer pedophile who worships Satan and
• 1:22:17
  still go to heaven. But but you know when you're
• 1:22:20
  saved it changes your heart and and not just that but it only
• 1:22:25
  takes one sin and you're you're done.
• 1:22:29
  So like it it just can't be. Yeah it's if you get if you
• 1:22:34
  accept the blood of Christ, it's good for you're you're good.
• 1:22:37
  It's not going to wear out. Right.
• 1:22:38
  Like you wouldn't disown your kid if they did something wrong.
• 1:22:42
  You know you would correct them and that's basically what it
• 1:22:44
  says, that he corrects his children.
• 1:22:48
  So you. You believe once they've always
• 1:22:51
  saved. Yeah, Yep.
• 1:22:54
  Even if somebody takes a chainsaw to a bunch of children
• 1:22:57
  and all that, they're going to be fine after it's all said and
• 1:23:00
  done. Well, think about it like a like
• 1:23:02
  a psychopath, somebody that's got something mentally wrong
• 1:23:04
  with them. I mean, I believe that you can
• 1:23:06
  get saved and still, you know, be susceptible to because I
• 1:23:11
  don't think a human being like in their heart, Well, no, they
• 1:23:13
  there are people that in their heart want to kill people.
• 1:23:15
  But you know, there's something demonic going on there.
• 1:23:19
  You know, if you're going to do something like that, you know, I
• 1:23:23
  can't really answer to to what everybody's individual, you
• 1:23:27
  know, desires are. But I know that it changes your
• 1:23:29
  heart and and it's a it's a noticeable change.
• 1:23:34
  It doesn't. Doesn't that feel?
• 1:23:35
  I mean one of the big reasons why me and Lucifer get on the
• 1:23:39
  atheist, as we say? Because it leads to nihilism
• 1:23:42
  where there's no purpose or meaning or no point to life.
• 1:23:46
  Now, if the Christians convince themselves that they can go out
• 1:23:49
  and fucking take a chainsaw to an entire kindergarten of
• 1:23:54
  children and get away with it and still go to heaven, that's a
• 1:23:58
  form of nihilism too. Life has no purpose, no meaning.
• 1:24:01
  You don't have to do shit in order to do better for yourself.
• 1:24:05
  Well, see I I would need a positive example, like a real
• 1:24:09
  example of that happening, you know, before I would I can
• 1:24:12
  answer you know. OK, I'll, I'll give you.
• 1:24:15
  I'll give you somebody. Jeffrey Dahmer he this is kind
• 1:24:19
  of reversal though. He went out.
• 1:24:21
  He ate people. He chopped people up.
• 1:24:23
  He was a nasty bastards. Towards the end of his life, in
• 1:24:26
  prison, right before he dies, he accepted Jesus Christ.
• 1:24:30
  He said, Look, I'm reading creationism stories.
• 1:24:33
  Al Kent Hovind says he even sent the man books before he was
• 1:24:37
  killed. That's what he said.
• 1:24:39
  That's what he said. So people say that he accepted
• 1:24:42
  Christ is, and he seemed sincere as far as sociopaths are.
• 1:24:47
  Well, here, here's the thing. He seemed like he seemed like a
• 1:24:52
  he had guilt, you know, he was talking about it was he wanted
• 1:24:56
  to change, you know, he knows other people were feeling the
• 1:24:59
  same way he was. So here's the thing.
• 1:25:01
  Just because just because you accept Jesus Christ doesn't mean
• 1:25:04
  Jesus Christ has to accept you. And this is what the free Christ
• 1:25:07
  system to understand. Just because you accept Jesus as
• 1:25:11
  your Lord and Savior doesn't mean you automatically take away
• 1:25:14
  Jesus's free will and He therefore must now save you.
• 1:25:17
  Just because you believed, no, Jesus doesn't have to tolerate
• 1:25:21
  you. Oh, wait a second.
• 1:25:23
  Wait a second. There's a hang on Missing,
• 1:25:27
  missing. I'm going to interject here, the
• 1:25:29
  Christian Darth. The Christian text literally
• 1:25:33
  says it doesn't matter what you've done so long as you
• 1:25:36
  accept Jesus, you get a clean slate.
• 1:25:39
  This is exactly what the texts say.
• 1:25:42
  And so now you're saying that that's not exactly the state,
• 1:25:46
  which I don't get me wrong. I agree with that statement, but
• 1:25:50
  that's running in contradiction to what the actual documentation
• 1:25:54
  says. Correct me if I'm wrong here
• 1:25:56
  guys. No, I'm.
• 1:25:58
  I'm not trying to be hateful, but the Bible literally can be
• 1:26:01
  used like a political manual. That's the reason why there I
• 1:26:05
  feel like there's so many denominations because people can
• 1:26:09
  get passages and say, Yep, this is the way, and then somebody
• 1:26:12
  else can come along and say, Nah, it's this way.
• 1:26:15
  And here's the verses for it. It's a political manual.
• 1:26:19
  Yeah, think about it. Think about.
• 1:26:20
  It like if you can't ask me if Satanist did the same thing and
• 1:26:24
  I'd say yeah, we do. If you, if you, if you can, if
• 1:26:28
  you can lose your salvation, none of us are going to make it.
• 1:26:32
  None of us. I know I'm not.
• 1:26:35
  It doesn't make the way is narrow though, dear.
• 1:26:37
  When I when I think of narrow, I'm thinking a mouse hole type
• 1:26:41
  of narrow. That's how I visualize it.
• 1:26:43
  Well, missing. If you're not going to be saved,
• 1:26:45
  you're more than welcome to come down South with me and we can
• 1:26:48
  all have a party. But Alice Cooper won't be there
• 1:26:52
  'cause he's a Christian. Oh.
• 1:26:54
  Alice Cooper is definitely going to be there.
• 1:26:56
  Same with Ozzie. Same with everybody else.
• 1:27:00
  Jimi Hendrix. He's down there already having
• 1:27:03
  a. Not if that once saved all we
• 1:27:05
  saved is the case, though. If the Christians, some
• 1:27:08
  Christians, are right about that, then Alice Cooper and
• 1:27:10
  Megadeth are going to have them. Well, Alice Cooper admitted he
• 1:27:13
  was just doing it for Funsie. He was just, you know, pretend
• 1:27:16
  show. Yeah.
• 1:27:17
  And the show you were seeing his interviews.
• 1:27:19
  It's like I was just doing it. For fun, it's.
• 1:27:21
  Not something that was taken serious, right?
• 1:27:26
  Anybody says that he was talking.
• 1:27:27
  Liable. Looks like Raging's back with
• 1:27:29
  us. He says he loves talking about
• 1:27:31
  the Bible. Are we sure we don't want to
• 1:27:32
  bring him in here? We might convert him tonight.
• 1:27:35
  Fuck. Him.
• 1:27:36
  Oh boy, that's not. Gonna be good.
• 1:27:38
  Luther says. Hell no.
• 1:27:40
  Let him go to hell. Fuck raging.
• 1:27:43
  I don't think. I'm gonna help for him, but if
• 1:27:45
  you let him in here, it's gonna turn into a shit show and you'll
• 1:27:48
  be kicking me out. Oh, it's gonna be a shit show.
• 1:27:52
  I'll be just going toxic all over his app.
• 1:27:55
  So you don't want it to turn to a shit sandwich without the
• 1:27:58
  breath? I'd take it all right.
• 1:28:00
  Well, maybe you can have him on another show and then we can
• 1:28:02
  know, 'cause maybe we can't have Lucifer and Rage in the same
• 1:28:06
  room, but maybe then another show I.
• 1:28:09
  Also, don't think it's a good time because Lucifer's feeling
• 1:28:12
  really under the weather. He's not feeling good and he's
• 1:28:15
  not up for that kind of bullshit right now.
• 1:28:18
  And raging is a a tough case to babysit.
• 1:28:20
  I have to make his mom pay double whenever I'm babysitting.
• 1:28:26
  It's Mark Reed. How you doing there, you
• 1:28:28
  handsome fellow? You.
• 1:28:30
  Hello Brett. How you doing mate?
• 1:28:32
  Just chilling out. You come in to talk about the
• 1:28:35
  Bible with us. You seem like you were doing
• 1:28:37
  some good comments out there. Yeah I I think that I mean it it
• 1:28:42
  a lot of a lot of comments are being really interesting I I
• 1:28:45
  don't I don't really get into the the once saved or saved only
• 1:28:49
  tangentially because you know I don't really have a dog in that
• 1:28:52
  race you know what I mean like works or or or great free grace.
• 1:28:55
  I don't you know, I don't believe in either so I don't
• 1:28:58
  have a dog in that race. But it it's it's weird to think
• 1:29:01
  that somebody like as as a punishment system goes that
• 1:29:05
  someone could go out have the most horrible life imaginable
• 1:29:11
  and sort of just recant all that on their deathbed and then get
• 1:29:14
  an internal reward. It just there's something about
• 1:29:17
  it that doesn't seem fair to me. You know, I I I don't know.
• 1:29:22
  It just doesn't seem like a very good system for making or or or
• 1:29:26
  getting people to do the right thing.
• 1:29:29
  It seems like a system where people will go out and do
• 1:29:32
  anything they want and then sort of, you know, you do see these
• 1:29:36
  people that sort of sit on the weekend and you know confess on
• 1:29:40
  Monday and and then they're good kind of thing.
• 1:29:43
  So I think that's sort of what I would suggest it leads to.
• 1:29:49
  I mean, I agree. I agree with you, Mark.
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  To me, it sounds totally unfair, and it's something I brought up
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  with brothers and sisters in Christ a couple dozen times and
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  they kind of just look at me like I'm an asshole.
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  Now Mark, before we continue, you got my million yet.
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  Yeah, I I don't know I I had a question for you Bubbles.
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  Why are you using Emma's picture like?
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  What is that? No, this is Dark Thor.
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  No, that's Dark Thoranus. I don't know who Emma Thorne is.
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  I'm dark. Emma Thorne's and English
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  Atheist, as you very well know, I mean so.
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  Dothras is a Nazi gut worshipping theist.
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  I told you a while back that Avatar was going to get you in
• 1:30:35
  trouble, man. It's a joke.
• 1:30:38
  Yeah, I I know it's a joke. But people are, some people are
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  going to come in, they're going to be like, why is there a gun
• 1:30:43
  pointed at her head for her? Oh, no, you know.
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  Maybe. Maybe that's why writes things
• 1:30:48
  up like a Nazi. Probably the Avatar.
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  Oh, I just, I just see it as sort of, you know, so why why
• 1:30:55
  are you lying? Isn't lying like a a sin or you
• 1:30:59
  know, something to be not not done in in your theology?
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  Well, why? Why would you be?
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  Lying. I'm not questioning Mark.
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  Get them. I'm not, yeah, but.
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  But. Do you have any moral standards
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  at all? Moral.
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  Standards, yeah. I mean like objective moral
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  standards. Not necessarily.
• 1:31:19
  Yeah, I think. I think any either morally or
• 1:31:22
  somewhere they well, it's objective moralism.
• 1:31:25
  It's just a mental delusion. It's just people with a mental
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  disorder. I'll.
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  I'll. Be right in that book.
• 1:31:30
  Come and get me. Some ice water and you guys
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  figure. Out more.
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  People bastard, than the world is.
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  No worries. So.
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  But I'm not talking about any necessarily objective moral
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  standard. I'm asking you what your moral
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  standards are. Well, if if there is morality,
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  it has to be objective because if it's subjective then it's
• 1:31:47
  just people's mental disorder. That's not what I asked.
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  I'm asking you about your moral foundation.
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  Like where does. It no.
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  I I don't believe in objective morality, no.
• 1:31:57
  OK, So what? Do you have any moral standard
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  and where does it come from? I'm asking you if you have any
• 1:32:02
  moral standard. So I don't believe in objective
• 1:32:06
  morality. And so if you're going to say,
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  do I have a subjective moral? You do realize that that the
• 1:32:13
  morality can be subjective and you can have a moral standard,
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  right? Yeah, but I'm.
• 1:32:17
  Defining subjective morality as a mental disorder?
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  No, I don't have a mental disorder.
• 1:32:21
  OK, so you have a mental. Well if you don't have objective
• 1:32:25
  morality then it's non objective which makes it subjective, which
• 1:32:28
  you've now defined as a mental disorder.
• 1:32:31
  I don't have a subjective moral standard.
• 1:32:34
  So it's subjective. No.
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  Yes. I don't have a a mental
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  disorder. You call it a subjective
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  standard. OK, so it's objective.
• 1:32:43
  Where does that sort of moral foundation come from?
• 1:32:46
  I don't have a subjective moral standard.
• 1:32:48
  I don't. I'm talking about disorder.
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  Look, you said you had an objective, objective moral
• 1:32:55
  standard. Where does that objective moral?
• 1:32:57
  You don't have objective and it's not subjective.
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  I don't believe in moral period. What's wrong?
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  With the SO, you're a moral nihilist.
• 1:33:05
  Yes. You're a moral nihilist.
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  OK, well, that explains a lot. So you don't think there's any
• 1:33:12
  reason to have any kind of limits on human behavior in any
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  way? There isn't anything we ought to
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  do whatsoever. No, there is no odds.
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  Wow, that's horrifying. Mark Reed, you're an atheist?
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  So. So there's nothing in your
• 1:33:29
  worldview that can say, you know, raping kids, it's
• 1:33:33
  objective or, you know, objectively wrong.
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  Sorry. So you.
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  Say. I'm.
• 1:33:38
  I'm. Let me ask you this, Darcy.
• 1:33:41
  Let me, let me hang on, hang on, hang on.
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  No, no, no. I've got to, I've got to answer
• 1:33:44
  this question like this was posted me, and I really feel
• 1:33:47
  like I have to stand up for it. Just because I don't think
• 1:33:49
  there's anything objective about it doesn't mean I don't have a
• 1:33:52
  moral standard that says that that is horrendously an
• 1:33:55
  atrocity, that that's an atrocity.
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  Whereas you're basically saying, hey, there's I don't think
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  that's wrong at all, because I still think it's wrong.
• 1:34:04
  Under my moral standard. You don't think it's wrong at
• 1:34:07
  all? Margaret, you only think it's
• 1:34:09
  wrong when it's done to you. You don't think it's wrong when
• 1:34:11
  it's done to people you don't like?
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  OK, so that's telling me what my thoughts are and you don't know
• 1:34:16
  my thoughts. You're well, just.
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  A SEC. Just a SEC.
• 1:34:21
  You're projecting what you think my thoughts should be on me,
• 1:34:25
  which is wrong. You can't tell what my thoughts
• 1:34:27
  are, and I'm telling you what I think.
• 1:34:30
  And it's incredibly rude to sit there and go, well, this is what
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  you think. You know, I I I'm not doing that
• 1:34:35
  for you. I'm just taking it as a moral
• 1:34:37
  nihilist thinks that there is no odds.
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  I think that there are odds, and you ought not to do that is.
• 1:34:44
  My position? Your odds are merely your
• 1:34:47
  opinion, and I don't care about your opinion.
• 1:34:49
  But who? Where are each individual
• 1:34:52
  measuring their odds? Darth, do you have any sorts of
• 1:34:56
  code of conduct? Because that you.
• 1:34:59
  Have any sort of written code of conduct mark?
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  Same with you. Do you have any sort of written
• 1:35:03
  code of conduct? Something like your own version
• 1:35:06
  of the 10 commandments. Yes, absolutely.
• 1:35:10
  Could you share my with us please?
• 1:35:11
  Yeah, sure. My, my hold.
• 1:35:13
  On hold on, missing MoD's. Been trying to get in there.
• 1:35:16
  Let. Her.
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  Sorry. And then I'll get back to that.
• 1:35:21
  And then I answered. Mr. Go ahead.
• 1:35:23
  That's OK. I I just wanted to make the
• 1:35:25
  point about the Bigfoot Jesus thing in Stump.
• 1:35:27
  I mean Stump that that offended him, you know, and it was, you
• 1:35:30
  know, I I I think that we should just let it go.
• 1:35:33
  I don't know what's wrong with the picture, but there could be
• 1:35:34
  some kind of thing going on that I don't that I don't realize,
• 1:35:37
  but I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
• 1:35:39
  But that's me. So I guess that's my opinion.
• 1:35:42
  All right. Go ahead now, Mark.
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  Yeah. Well, just to sort of say
• 1:35:46
  missing on. Yeah.
• 1:35:46
  And I think that that sort of moral variable like variations
• 1:35:50
  in morals definitely do exist regardless of, you know, whether
• 1:35:54
  you believe there is an objective moral standard behind
• 1:35:56
  it or not. We definitely have different
• 1:35:58
  views on morality. But my moral standard is usually
• 1:36:02
  based upon sort of so I'm a metaethical relativist.
• 1:36:07
  So I think as long so your metaethics are basically how to
• 1:36:11
  put this in a way that that's easy to understand.
• 1:36:13
  So if you have a a game of chess kind of thing, the rules are
• 1:36:17
  your metaethics. It's the goal is to win the game
• 1:36:20
  of chess. Now we just made the rules of
• 1:36:23
  chess up. There's no reason why bishops
• 1:36:25
  can't move, you know, in in straight lines that you know and
• 1:36:30
  and and pawns move diagonally, for instance.
• 1:36:33
  That's all subjective, but once you have those rules in place,
• 1:36:37
  you have some, well, they're not objective standards, but they're
• 1:36:41
  definitely standards that apply on a metaethical basis of how to
• 1:36:45
  get you to that goal. So I base mine on human
• 1:36:50
  well-being that that's my goal for for everything.
• 1:36:54
  So everything that goes against human well-being is immoral
• 1:36:57
  under that metaethical. Standard What is well-being?
• 1:37:01
  It is the physical and mental health of humans.
• 1:37:05
  Do you think that objectively? Do you think to support people's
• 1:37:09
  gender dysphoria is good to their well-being to?
• 1:37:13
  Promote to meet. Standards.
• 1:37:15
  Is this life just some kind of red herring?
• 1:37:18
  I'm. Asking you, I think it's a valid
• 1:37:22
  question. I would like to hear an answer.
• 1:37:25
  Yeah. So a lot of the evidence shows
• 1:37:27
  that the the the way that that gender dysphoria works is
• 1:37:33
  actually neurological, that the actual brain, the the physical
• 1:37:39
  alignment of the neurons in the brain is actually contributing
• 1:37:42
  to it. It's more like a female's than
• 1:37:45
  it is a male's in a male body. So I guess the question then
• 1:37:49
  becomes, if if you are in fact saying that that's a problem,
• 1:37:55
  then why is a God going around putting sort of more female
• 1:37:59
  brains in male bodies is a question.
• 1:38:02
  We're asking about your excuse me, Dar, do you believe children
• 1:38:07
  can have gender dysphoria, considering that their brains
• 1:38:09
  are still developing? Yeah, I think they can.
• 1:38:13
  Sure. Do you think it might naturally
• 1:38:16
  sort itself out by the time they mature?
• 1:38:19
  Maybe it it, it really does depend.
• 1:38:21
  It's a very, very new field that we don't have that much
• 1:38:25
  information on, which is why I would advocate that sort of
• 1:38:29
  treatments and things like that, irreversible treatments be be
• 1:38:33
  sort of left until they are of a certain age.
• 1:38:36
  And I think the best people to decide that isn't just people on
• 1:38:40
  the Internet talking about it. I think there should be medical
• 1:38:43
  staff with the knowledge of how that affects their bodies, what
• 1:38:47
  the disadvantages can be. And I think there there should
• 1:38:50
  be a a rigorous process to tell. But this, this all seems like a
• 1:38:56
  red herring because we're sort of going away from morality at a
• 1:38:59
  large rate to a sort of dog whistle that that, you know,
• 1:39:04
  some people like to do whenever anything comes up.
• 1:39:08
  Well, it's definitely not a dog whistle, definitely.
• 1:39:12
  It's an honest question. Do you think that it is fair to
• 1:39:16
  the child the parent makes the decision for them to have their
• 1:39:21
  sex chemically and surgically altered before they have time to
• 1:39:26
  fully mature physically and make up.
• 1:39:28
  I didn't say surgically. I didn't say surgically.
• 1:39:31
  I no, I'm asking you to. I'm asking.
• 1:39:34
  You a more question? Yeah.
• 1:39:36
  I think that we ought to listen to the medical advice of those
• 1:39:39
  people who have spent their entire lives working in the
• 1:39:42
  field and less from sort of people that have absolutely no
• 1:39:46
  experience with the medical, psychological, physiological
• 1:39:51
  effects of any of these things. I think so.
• 1:39:54
  Let me make sure I understand. Well, no, this isn't.
• 1:39:56
  This is. Hang on a second.
• 1:39:57
  Hang on a second. This isn't a an interrogation
• 1:40:02
  looser, So I'm gonna ask some questions back.
• 1:40:04
  I. That's perfectly fine, I just
• 1:40:06
  want to make sure I'm understanding.
• 1:40:08
  You do you think we ought not to do something about that and
• 1:40:11
  leave the, you know, obviously there is rates of death among
• 1:40:16
  people who do experience gender dysphoria.
• 1:40:19
  Do you think we should abandoned them to just, you know, take it
• 1:40:24
  on their own? What would you suggest be the
• 1:40:26
  way around that? Well, me personally, I would say
• 1:40:33
  they make their bed, they deal with it, but if they're willing
• 1:40:36
  to confront it on their own, then that's their business.
• 1:40:40
  My question was going to be to you would be to confirm whether
• 1:40:44
  or not you're saying that the parents should have no say so.
• 1:40:50
  No, of course. OK.
• 1:40:52
  So young mother. Should not say.
• 1:40:53
  Well, let me, let me answer. Let me no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:40:57
  Let me finish my statement. One word.
• 1:40:59
  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can't just give
• 1:41:04
  one word. And then you cut me off and keep
• 1:41:06
  on going. What I'm saying is the best.
• 1:41:08
  Well, that's what you've been doing to me here.
• 1:41:10
  That's exactly what you've been doing to me.
• 1:41:17
  This isn't an interrogation, mate.
• 1:41:19
  Like, let me actually talk. Like, you've been talking,
• 1:41:24
  you've been talking, and we've been letting you talk.
• 1:41:27
  And then whenever somebody would like to ask you a question, you
• 1:41:31
  immediately talk asking. Questions.
• 1:41:33
  You've been asking questions. Lots of them.
• 1:41:36
  So. Like, I think that's all right
• 1:41:38
  here. What I think is that we should
• 1:41:41
  have, like for instance, with people that that are too young
• 1:41:44
  or incapable of making their own decisions.
• 1:41:47
  Yes, they should have people like parents, like we don't let
• 1:41:50
  children decide to, you know, do something dangerous without
• 1:41:55
  their parents consent because they're too young to make those
• 1:41:58
  decisions. That's perfectly reasonable now,
• 1:42:01
  but I I do. Want to?
• 1:42:03
  Sort of examine. Excuse me, I do want to examine
• 1:42:06
  what you mean by they make their bed.
• 1:42:08
  Let's lie in it. Do you feel the same thing about
• 1:42:11
  any people with a large incidence of of sort of rates of
• 1:42:17
  of injury and and death from mental illness?
• 1:42:21
  Do you feel the same about all of them, like military veterans
• 1:42:24
  and say young men kind of thing? Do you think we should just not
• 1:42:31
  help people with mental illness or or any kind of?
• 1:42:35
  I believe in survival of the fittest.
• 1:42:38
  OK, so let them, let them go. If that's what nature intends,
• 1:42:42
  if they're able to survive, if they're able to push through it,
• 1:42:46
  then they're all the stronger for it.
• 1:42:48
  If they're not, well, then it's a natural.
• 1:42:51
  It's nature doing its thing. Is it kind?
• 1:42:53
  Is it nice? Absolutely not.
• 1:42:56
  OK, so you don't understand evolution because when you say
• 1:43:00
  it's Darwinism, we don't, we don't sort of Darwinist.
• 1:43:04
  So. How did you get evolutionism
• 1:43:06
  from that statement? How did you get evolutionism
• 1:43:10
  from that statement? You said Darwinism.
• 1:43:13
  Yes, I said. I am a Darwinist.
• 1:43:15
  I am a Social Darwinist. I am a Satanist.
• 1:43:19
  OK. Let's make sure we understand
• 1:43:21
  what my beliefs state. My belief state Lex talianos,
• 1:43:25
  The survival of the fittest, The rule of Fang and klaw.
• 1:43:29
  And I know you're immediately going to look up lex talianos.
• 1:43:32
  Look it up in Anton Lebay's terminology.
• 1:43:36
  Oh, so you're you're an advocate of pseudoscience.
• 1:43:39
  I got you. I got you.
• 1:43:40
  So you think, what is pseudoscience?
• 1:43:43
  What is pseudoscience? Who are you to determine what is
• 1:43:46
  and isn't pseudoscience? Is Britain?
• 1:43:50
  No, no, no. You've already talked over
• 1:43:52
  enough people. Retard alert.
• 1:43:55
  Retard alert. Class, you asked me a question.
• 1:43:58
  You asked me what is pseudoscience.
• 1:44:00
  If you don't want me to answer, don't ask the question.
• 1:44:03
  Well, I'm asking you who has the right to determine what is
• 1:44:05
  pseudoscience because well, in the my time doing these live
• 1:44:09
  streams, do you just? Ask questions and then answer
• 1:44:12
  four people. Is that what you do?
• 1:44:14
  I'm not answering anybody's questions.
• 1:44:17
  I'm doing the exact same thing to you that you've been doing to
• 1:44:20
  everybody else and railroading over them.
• 1:44:24
  I don't ask people questions and then answer the, you know that
• 1:44:27
  that that statement. That's exactly what you've been
• 1:44:30
  doing, dude. When what did I ask you?
• 1:44:33
  Recently you'd moron. All right, all right, guys.
• 1:44:37
  All right. All right.
• 1:44:39
  Let's, let's try to, let's try to get it back on the topic
• 1:44:42
  here. Everybody's getting excited.
• 1:44:44
  There's a lot of love in here. I'm feeling Elton John happening
• 1:44:47
  here. Now, let me ask you something.
• 1:44:49
  You were mentioning veterans and people with mental illness and
• 1:44:53
  all that. So I I take it, I take it that
• 1:44:55
  you see people that have gender dysphoria as being mentally ill,
• 1:44:59
  So someone. I'm Bush now why?
• 1:45:04
  Why did you if you? Don't mind me asking and I I
• 1:45:07
  won't disrespect you, Mark, but we were talking about gender
• 1:45:10
  dysphoria and then you brought up mental illness.
• 1:45:13
  So I got the idea that you were making a comparison analogy.
• 1:45:16
  Go ahead and fix that if. That's not the yes.
• 1:45:19
  So, so gender dysphoria is just one sort of thing and it can be,
• 1:45:25
  well, what we understand of it can be neurologically based.
• 1:45:27
  But people who are in the trans community, they do to experience
• 1:45:32
  a lot of things like depression, anxiety, you know, all of these
• 1:45:37
  other symptoms mostly which is caused by the the way society
• 1:45:41
  treats them to a large degree. So there is a prevalence of
• 1:45:46
  mental health issues in the trans community.
• 1:45:49
  I'm not, you know, I'm not against reality.
• 1:45:51
  That's the reality of the situation.
• 1:45:54
  But I think that a lot of that is garnered from sort of the way
• 1:45:58
  that they're treated and the stigma and and people putting
• 1:46:01
  them down and perhaps you know sort of a lack of acceptance.
• 1:46:05
  The rates go down fairly rapidly when we have things like gender
• 1:46:10
  affirming care, for instance, or or support groups to help them.
• 1:46:16
  But what what sort of makes me so?
• 1:46:19
  So I'm not saying that that itself is a is a is a mental
• 1:46:23
  illness. I'm saying that that community
• 1:46:25
  does have a lot of mental health issues.
• 1:46:27
  Like, you know, veterans have a lot of mental health issues.
• 1:46:30
  Oh, I get you now. I I follow.
• 1:46:33
  What about the trans disabled? Or the trans age though?
• 1:46:37
  Those who claim to be 6 years old when they're actually 50?
• 1:46:41
  Or people who fantasize about disabling themselves for cutting
• 1:46:44
  off limbs because they feel uncomfortable with the body
• 1:46:48
  part. Yeah, I I I don't, I don't think
• 1:46:53
  that that's got any kind of merit to it.
• 1:46:57
  I I I really think that that would be sort of self-inflicted
• 1:47:01
  harm. I I don't.
• 1:47:04
  I don't know how that plays into the the trans thing, though.
• 1:47:08
  Because as a child says that I think I'm a little girl and and
• 1:47:13
  my mommy and daddy, I'll sue their ass if they don't let me
• 1:47:16
  go get my part popped off, You know what I mean?
• 1:47:18
  But as I said, as I said, Brett, I I don't think that that's, you
• 1:47:22
  know, I don't think that we let children make decisions until
• 1:47:25
  they are in fact adults. And here's the thing.
• 1:47:29
  I think this is just a red herring because we're talking
• 1:47:32
  talking about sort of theology. And I came in for the theology
• 1:47:36
  discussion and it and then it went to morality.
• 1:47:39
  And I sort of started to ask bubble gum gum about his
• 1:47:43
  morality and why he he would do, you know, sort of lie and things
• 1:47:47
  like that, which I consider to be immoral because of the harms
• 1:47:50
  it can do to society in in some cases, sure, but.
• 1:47:54
  And now we're on to. You know.
• 1:47:56
  Excuse me, just talk over me. Yeah, that's great.
• 1:48:00
  But now we're sort of onto a trans issue, which I feel as
• 1:48:03
  soon as religious people get into a corner, they bring up and
• 1:48:08
  sort of try to hit you over the head with and it's just going
• 1:48:12
  back to, well, why won't you discuss your morality and get on
• 1:48:16
  to, you know, mind why? Why aren't we discussing the
• 1:48:19
  the, the, the sort of moral, nihilist position right now that
• 1:48:23
  was brought up? Well, I think the reason why it
• 1:48:27
  was brought into the conversation.
• 1:48:29
  This is my fear. These guys can correct me if I'm
• 1:48:32
  wrong, but you guys were trying to find each other's moral
• 1:48:35
  foundation, your compass, and whenever someone says they want
• 1:48:39
  to benefit the tribe, like tribalism, someone's going to
• 1:48:43
  come along and say what is exactly do you mean by benefit?
• 1:48:46
  Cause some people think it would benefit the tribe if you take
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  all the old dysfunctional people out and throw rocks at them
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  until they're garned so they don't take up resources.
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  So what's your thoughts on that? Right.
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  So I think that we have to have at a base level a sort of, you
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  know, rights that people do have.
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  Now I would base that sort of on a Maslow's hierarchy.
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  Every human needs certain things in order to have a fulfill or to
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  be well, OK. So if if you have sort of things
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  like bodily integrity, bodily autonomy, sort of a, A, you
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  know, all of these sort of rights that you have as well as
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  you know the physical stuff like in Maslow's hierarchy of needs,
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  there's stuff like sustenance, food, water, shelter, things
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  like that. I think we can base a a base
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  level of rights upon human needs, both physical and
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  psychological. Well here's a contradiction with
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  a Mark statement. He came in saying, you know, we
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  we should have this, his subjective morals in which we
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  shouldn't lie, but Mark would have a slide to to everybody
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  and. Especially when the.
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  Mark, I'm talking. And then he, Mark would have a
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  slide to people in the LGBT community to affirm their gender
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  identity. So if a man identifies a woman,
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  well, we just have to go with that lie.
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  So already there there's a contradiction.
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  You know Mark's objective standard.
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  So you're. Saying that Mark is endorsed.
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  And. Wellness, basically.
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  I I'd like to address that. So I didn't say it was wrong to
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  lie. OK, so there's instances where
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  OK, can I can I speak? OK, Mark, you said there's
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  instances. It sounds like you're about to
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  justify lying, but go ahead. Yeah.
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  So there's there's there's instances.
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  Well, sure. Like if you're in a in a a house
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  in in Germany and the Nazis are knocking on the door looking for
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  the Jewish people living in your attic and you know they're going
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  to kill you and the Jewish people.
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  If if you, if they know they're there, if they know you've been
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  harbouring Jewish people, then yeah, that's a good, good, good
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  case for hey, it is moral. That is what you ought to do.
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  Excuse me, excuse me, hold it, hold it, hold it.
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  I hadn't finished talking. So in order to fulfill that
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  human well-being, then that would be a case where it is good
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  to lie, but sort of, if you're lying to sort of fool people and
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  make them unsettled, or you know, you've got an atheist come
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  into the room and you're just being really disingenuous and
• 1:51:21
  saying who is this person? I've never heard of them before.
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  When quite obviously you have, then that may not, but you know
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  that ought you ought not to lie in order to do that.
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  So it really depends on what you're trying to get to.
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  You know, in order to you know, are you trying to help people
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  and and sort of, you know, help them or are are you trying to do
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  something different? Do you think it helps people
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  try? I I I just want to ask Mark
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  something real quick. Mark you, you brought up a
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  really good case scenario. Some Germans come in, Jews are
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  in the basement. Now what if in the scenario you
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  or I are in this this scenario and we find that we have a
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  weapon and the Germans aren't looking?
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  Should we Would be we be morally correct if we had the upper hand
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  to take them out right then there, just blast them so the
• 1:52:11
  Jews aren't in trouble anymore? Would that be morally good?
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  Well, I I don't know. There's there's so many
• 1:52:17
  variables that would rely on like would you be able to get
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  away with it without your your family and and friends and them
• 1:52:26
  taking action against everybody around you?
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  Would those Jews then be safe or would the blast bring more
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  people? Would would they would you have
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  a way for them to escape the Nazi regime instead of, you
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  know, because obviously you can't hide that forever.
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  There's so many things there to take into consideration, but I'm
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  not saying that I have. All.
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  The morals are one of the most complex subjects you're ever
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  going to discuss. And that's why trolley problems
• 1:52:55
  exist, right? Like if you move the trolley
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  this way or that way, you know, if if there's criminals on one
• 1:53:01
  track and and orphans on the other, which do you do?
• 1:53:04
  You pull the lever to move the trolley.
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  I I hope you're all familiar with trolley problems and it
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  quickly becomes evident that we can just try to make the best
• 1:53:12
  decisions we can on the information that we have.
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  But that doesn't mean I don't have a moral situation.
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  So the ought in that, whatever the situation may be, the ought
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  will be what leads to the best amount of human well-being.
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  If you kill the Nazis and then it killed in turn, that's
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  obviously the worst outcome. If you kill the Nazis and
• 1:53:31
  managed to get, you know, hundreds of Jews across the
• 1:53:35
  border, then that that's what you ought to do.
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  So it depends on Margaret. What your?
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  Outcome is. Do you do you define the the
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  mental states of people within within the LGBT community, LGBT
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  community as you know well-being?
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  The mental states as well-being, I I don't even know.
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  I have to ask, can you, Darth, can you please state that a
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  little bit better? Because not even I understood
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  what you were going for there? Would you define the mental
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  state of those people within the LGBTQ community as well?
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  As well. Yeah, 'cause you, you said we.
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  Are you asking if they're psychologically sound?
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  Yes, 'cause he, Mark Reid, wants to push his, you know, his his
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  idea of subjective moralism for the for the soundness, the
• 1:54:28
  well-being. But he hasn't given moralism.
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  I don't You're subjecting. I think I understand what's
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  being asked. You're you're stating you're
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  asking if Mark believes that a gay person is a sane person, or
• 1:54:43
  if they're insane for wanting to sleep the same gender.
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  Is that correct? Is that what?
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  You're asking, OK, that I can understand, that I can
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  understand. OK, so.
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  Is that what you're asking, Sir? Is that what you're?
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  Yeah. And not just homosexuals, but
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  people who, you know, who have cut off their Willy and have,
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  you know, gender well. Well, no, that's going somewhere
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  different. Let's keep it to the
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  homosexuals. Are you asking if he believes
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  that homosexuals are same? Yeah, you know, the whole groups
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  within the LGBT community, which wouldn't help them.
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  OK, Mark, go ahead. OK, so it's it's it's difficult,
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  almost impossible to say is this whole group saying right, that
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  that's one thing that you can't do?
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  Because I could say, hey, the entirety of the military is
• 1:55:30
  insane or the entire, you know, really you're looking at
• 1:55:33
  individuals. I don't think the criteria
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  criteria is being like queer or or gay or any of these things is
• 1:55:41
  a criteria for being ill by mentally unwell.
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  I think that there are people in the community that are mentally
• 1:55:47
  unwell and there are people who are not mentally unwell in the
• 1:55:50
  community. Just like any community out
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  there, even Christians, there's some people in it mentally
• 1:55:56
  involved. So asking about the entire thing
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  seems very, very flawed. So but I wouldn't make them.
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  If you're asking is anybody with sort of an LGBTQI association
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  mentally unwell, No, that's perfectly sane.
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  So you think this would be you would you would define that as
• 1:56:18
  mental well-being. Right Joe, there it is.
• 1:56:23
  So you think people who cut off their willies or went to
• 1:56:27
  mentally well-being well where does going from homosexuals PIMO
• 1:56:32
  coming off their willies to being mentally.
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  I mean, I mean this is this is how we drift from topic to
• 1:56:38
  topic. That is transgenderism, not
• 1:56:42
  homosexuality. And I'm going to flat out state,
• 1:56:45
  I'm going to state that a person who's gay is in their perfect
• 1:56:49
  mental state. One we have plenty of gay people
• 1:56:53
  in STS and even my second in command.
• 1:56:57
  He is a gay man and he is perfectly of sound mind, you
• 1:57:01
  know. Now take a person who is wanting
• 1:57:05
  to mutilate their genitals. Then you have a room to
• 1:57:08
  question, is this a psychological thing or is this a
• 1:57:11
  personal choice thing? That's that's two totally
• 1:57:15
  separate topics. So yeah.
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  So I'm wondering would Mark re promote that in his?
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  Well, I think, I think when you're talking about sort of
• 1:57:24
  mental States and mental illness and stuff, I don't think any of
• 1:57:28
  us here are qualified to judge who is mentally well and
• 1:57:31
  mentally unfair. This is what I'm trying to say.
• 1:57:33
  I think that should be left up to people who spend their entire
• 1:57:37
  life studying what it means to be mentally well.
• 1:57:41
  Like there are people that have have decades of research on this
• 1:57:46
  and and you know in fairness transgender is a new topic.
• 1:57:51
  It is something that's new and they are working on the
• 1:57:53
  research. I've I've read multiple papers
• 1:57:56
  where they do like it seems like for transgenderism the the whole
• 1:58:00
  thing is well we do need more like this is what it seems,
• 1:58:05
  right, right. This is what we can gather from
• 1:58:07
  the research, but it needs more research and that's where
• 1:58:12
  they're focusing their efforts because it is an area that we
• 1:58:15
  need more information. Mark.
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  If I can interject for one second then.
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  You can. Transgenderism has been a topic
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  and of study for thousands of years.
• 1:58:25
  We can actually go back and look in documentation of men
• 1:58:29
  mutilating their genitals to be more feminine, going back
• 1:58:33
  thousands of years, guys dressing as women for various
• 1:58:39
  reasons. It could be anything from being
• 1:58:40
  in a stage production all the way to actually being
• 1:58:44
  prostitutes goes back thousands of years.
• 1:58:47
  You can actually look it up. So transgenderism in and of
• 1:58:51
  itself is not a new topic. It's just within the past 50 or
• 1:58:57
  so years, we now have the medical ability to engage that.
• 1:59:04
  Yeah. And so that's.
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  All I was interacting on there. No, no, that's fine.
• 1:59:08
  That's fine. No.
• 1:59:09
  And and I I'd say what you mean. Yeah.
• 1:59:10
  But what what I'm sort of saying is that even though this this
• 1:59:14
  behavior has been around and I know it's been around, I know
• 1:59:17
  what you're talking about, that you do have societies like
• 1:59:20
  ancient India with with sort of multiple gender roles that that
• 1:59:24
  carried over and and there's a few other ancient civilizations
• 1:59:29
  with multiple gender roles throughout their their society.
• 1:59:33
  But now we have the opportunity to look at, well you know, I
• 1:59:37
  guess my question would be why would we look at it in the light
• 1:59:40
  of thousands of years ago instead of sort of modern
• 1:59:43
  medical studies where we can use stuff like Mr. Is and and you
• 1:59:49
  know scans to actually find out how the brain is working?
• 1:59:54
  Well, Mark, the one of the issues is, I mean I agree with
• 1:59:58
  you, there are people out there that are obviously more
• 2:00:00
  qualified than us in the room to be able to discuss such matters.
• 2:00:04
  But the problem is with these higher ups and these qualified
• 2:00:08
  folks is you got a bunch of them over here who are saying one
• 2:00:11
  thing in a group over here saying another.
• 2:00:13
  There are there are doctors out there who are stating that this
• 2:00:16
  is a mental illness. And that it's, it's been in the
• 2:00:20
  medical books as a mental illness.
• 2:00:22
  And then you got another group who says, oh, it's perfectly
• 2:00:24
  natural, you know, it's just just something that happened.
• 2:00:29
  Well who do you who do you listen to.
• 2:00:32
  But so was autism was was seen as a mental illness until we had
• 2:00:36
  an understanding it is a you think it's a mental illness.
• 2:00:40
  Interesting. So until we understand from
• 2:00:44
  neurology that it's a it's a neurological state, it's it's
• 2:00:49
  it's not actually to do with the mental state at all.
• 2:00:52
  It's to do with the neurological structure of the brain.
• 2:00:55
  And that's what I'm trying to get across that just because
• 2:00:58
  something you see. Can we have a really quickly,
• 2:01:02
  can we have a something that Brett, can you look up something
• 2:01:05
  to differentiate what qualifies as a neurological illness to a
• 2:01:10
  mental illness? That way we know what we're all
• 2:01:12
  talking about here. Can you throw something like
• 2:01:14
  that up? All right, well, let's see.
• 2:01:19
  OK, mental illness, Let's look this up.
• 2:01:23
  Sorry Mark, I figured that that would be a very appropriate
• 2:01:25
  thing. To No, no.
• 2:01:26
  Fair enough, Fair enough. Well I sort of say it and the
• 2:01:32
  way that I look at it because I'm on the autism spectrum
• 2:01:35
  myself. So I sort of look at it as sort
• 2:01:38
  of so neurology is sort of the structure and the functionality
• 2:01:42
  of the the brain like how it actually it's synaptic
• 2:01:46
  responses, workouts, neurons work, how the the physical
• 2:01:49
  structure of the brain works. While mental states are more
• 2:01:55
  behavioral, they're things that we do over and over kind of
• 2:02:00
  things. So for instance anorexia nervosa
• 2:02:02
  for instance would be a mental illness.
• 2:02:04
  So it would be a behavioral thing that you're doing as a
• 2:02:09
  reaction to some sort of stressor or or some sort of
• 2:02:14
  trauma event for instance like PTSD would be a mental illness.
• 2:02:19
  So that would be in response to the experience of going through
• 2:02:23
  a lot of trauma during wartime, for instance.
• 2:02:28
  And what about a neurological state is kind of your brain is
• 2:02:32
  sort of you're born and I hate this term, but hard wired for
• 2:02:35
  it. It's the the physical structure
• 2:02:37
  of the brain. So with autism, that's not a
• 2:02:40
  behavioral thing. Like babies are literally born
• 2:02:44
  with a different mental, sorry, a different neurological
• 2:02:47
  structure than everybody else. Everything's on the spectrum
• 2:02:53
  though too, Mark. It's it's obvious, it's obvious
• 2:02:57
  that you're a high functional on the spectrum.
• 2:02:59
  Oh, yes. But there are people out there
• 2:03:02
  who are like Rain Man, where they literally cannot function
• 2:03:05
  on their own, who are high on the spectrum, order, very, very
• 2:03:10
  intelligent and all that. But Rain Man example, you know
• 2:03:14
  what I mean? Is that Christian?
• 2:03:18
  Huh. I know Chris Champ, but I don't
• 2:03:21
  know Rain Man. Rain Man, like in the Dustin
• 2:03:24
  Hoffman movie with Tom. Cruise.
• 2:03:26
  Hoffman, Tom Cruise. It was a really good movie.
• 2:03:29
  I only saw it once. But you know, yeah, yeah, Got to
• 2:03:31
  get my underwear at Wallbrook. Got to get my underwear at
• 2:03:34
  Wallbrook. Yeah, yeah, You you remember
• 2:03:36
  that? So yeah.
• 2:03:38
  And even though there is people on the spectrum and what you've
• 2:03:41
  got to understand is that that everybody's sort of on the
• 2:03:44
  spectrum. If you want to look at like that
• 2:03:45
  let's just that that the autistic people are down the
• 2:03:48
  high end of that that sort of different brain development.
• 2:03:53
  The the, the. The thing is that even though
• 2:03:55
  they may be low functioning and they might need a lot of
• 2:03:58
  assistance, it doesn't mean that they're not it's it's suddenly a
• 2:04:02
  mental illness. It's still neurological,
• 2:04:05
  regardless of, you know, other things might come with it, like
• 2:04:08
  there may be mental illness that comes with it, like if a child
• 2:04:14
  with autism cannot assimilate to a normal school structure, they
• 2:04:17
  might experience depression, they might experience anxiety.
• 2:04:22
  You know, these are mental illnesses, not neurological
• 2:04:25
  conditions. They're a secondary effect, but
• 2:04:28
  it doesn't mean that the initial autism is a mental illness
• 2:04:32
  rather than neurological. And here's the thing, another
• 2:04:35
  neurological condition is stuff like epilepsy, right.
• 2:04:39
  So you wouldn't go to somebody with epilepsy and go, oh, well,
• 2:04:42
  you got to get your crap together, you know, that's not
• 2:04:44
  something you would do because it's a neurological there's no,
• 2:04:47
  there's no way to rewire or at the moment there's no way to
• 2:04:51
  rewire the brain. And a lot of the research coming
• 2:04:54
  out is suggesting that being transgender is actually
• 2:04:59
  neurological, that when they they scan these brains of
• 2:05:02
  people, they have a tendency to like the physical structure
• 2:05:07
  shows more like a woman's brain in a man than it is a man's
• 2:05:11
  brain, which means that it is neurological.
• 2:05:15
  But again, I want to couch that and say that it suggests that
• 2:05:20
  that a lot more research has to be done on it, that that's, you
• 2:05:23
  know, I won't, I won't lie and say, hey, they've absolutely
• 2:05:25
  discovered it. No, definitely more research
• 2:05:28
  needs to be done on it. Well, I do agree with you as
• 2:05:31
  well as the other people in the room.
• 2:05:33
  If someone's an adult, then this is something they've decided and
• 2:05:36
  the doctors say that their mental health is fine enough for
• 2:05:40
  them to do what they want to with their body, So be it.
• 2:05:43
  But I don't. I don't like the propaganda push
• 2:05:46
  down children. I think that they're going
• 2:05:48
  through all this development with their neurons or brain and
• 2:05:52
  all that, and they should be given time till they're adult
• 2:05:55
  before they make decisions of, you know, whacking things off.
• 2:05:59
  Well, I had a question for Lucifer.
• 2:06:01
  And that's like if we sort of just leave people to to, you
• 2:06:08
  know, that are having problems to cope on their own or they
• 2:06:12
  should just get weeded out of the population kind of thing.
• 2:06:15
  What would you say about people that have had problems yet
• 2:06:19
  contributed significantly to our society?
• 2:06:23
  Like just say a Stephen Hawking's for instance, who's in
• 2:06:26
  a chair? Sorry, I have to catch that.
• 2:06:29
  Do you think physical is the same that people that have
• 2:06:31
  physical ailments should just be left to to suffer and and you
• 2:06:36
  know, get over it or not or. Well, certainly I agree that
• 2:06:40
  because we have the medical capability to take care of these
• 2:06:43
  people that it should be made available, but they also have to
• 2:06:47
  put forth the effort to show that they're putting the work
• 2:06:51
  in. So basically, it's meet them
• 2:06:53
  halfway. So say a guy like Stephen
• 2:06:56
  Hawking's brilliant mind. Unfortunately, he had the
• 2:06:59
  degenerative condition he did. Yeah, mulch boys, yeah.
• 2:07:02
  Yeah, yeah, it's a horrible condition, but he had a
• 2:07:05
  brilliant mind. Now the point of the matter is,
• 2:07:08
  is he never complained about his condition.
• 2:07:11
  He did everything that he needed to do and outright went out of
• 2:07:15
  his way to seek help his condition from an early age, and
• 2:07:20
  he learned to deal with his condition throughout life.
• 2:07:23
  Was he a burden on society? No, he wasn't.
• 2:07:27
  Even though he was in that physical state, he did
• 2:07:31
  everything he could to return to society, what he got from
• 2:07:35
  society. So you understand what I'm
• 2:07:39
  saying there. So yeah, yeah.
• 2:07:42
  But now you take a person who is like on the streets of San
• 2:07:45
  Francisco. They refuse to get a job, they
• 2:07:47
  refuse to do anything in return, but they demand everything from
• 2:07:52
  society. Well, all they're doing is
• 2:07:54
  vampirize, am I correct, would you say?
• 2:07:59
  I I I don't think so. They're just being a social
• 2:08:01
  vampire. So say a person who has every
• 2:08:04
  ability to get a job and whatnot.
• 2:08:07
  They have the ability, but they choose to sit on a street corner
• 2:08:11
  without contributing anything and just hold up a sign asking
• 2:08:16
  for money. And they get they can go out,
• 2:08:20
  they can get food stamps, they can get the medical state
• 2:08:23
  medical, they can get all the benefits.
• 2:08:27
  And the only thing that they do is they're sitting out on a
• 2:08:29
  street corner baking for money. They're not doing anything in
• 2:08:33
  return for society. They don't even pay their taxes.
• 2:08:37
  You think that that's right. Fair.
• 2:08:40
  OK, so I think they're vampirizing us.
• 2:08:43
  Can I answer like this is this is the thing I've been pointing
• 2:08:46
  out it's it's you know I'd like to be able to answer.
• 2:08:50
  I think that that's a black and white look at these things.
• 2:08:53
  I think that that most people are trying the best they can to
• 2:08:56
  do stuff and that may be a low a very very low kind of you know
• 2:09:02
  output And and I granted that may be a very low output but a
• 2:09:06
  lot of people that are struggling and are struggling
• 2:09:10
  with mental illness they're they're not capable of doing
• 2:09:13
  more. And I think understanding that
• 2:09:15
  and providing them with you know the person out on the street for
• 2:09:19
  instance. I I think that it's a lot better
• 2:09:22
  in order to you know just leave them to to suffer is to actually
• 2:09:25
  help them with sort of mental health treatments and and get
• 2:09:31
  them back into a place where they can contribute to society.
• 2:09:35
  I I think that a lot of the time we just see them as all they're
• 2:09:40
  not trying when in fact they're trying their hardest and we're
• 2:09:43
  not acknowledging where they come.
• 2:09:45
  They all might also have a distrust of of authority, for
• 2:09:49
  instance, which makes it particularly difficult to
• 2:09:52
  address their concerns if it is the authority offering them help
• 2:09:55
  because someone with a distrust of authority will not take that
• 2:09:58
  help because they distrust authority.
• 2:10:00
  So I think I would say that a lot more has to be done to help
• 2:10:04
  people and this is one of the when I mentioned that people
• 2:10:07
  have rights and those rights are based on Maslow's hierarchy.
• 2:10:11
  One of those things is self actualization which means to be
• 2:10:16
  a better version of yourself, to get better you know and and and
• 2:10:20
  be a better member of society. So I think that is something
• 2:10:24
  that people should always have the opportunity to do and it is
• 2:10:28
  within what I think is a social contract and and sort of social
• 2:10:32
  contract theory that the government should be doing
• 2:10:35
  things to allow these people to self actualize.
• 2:10:38
  It's just that a lot of the time in in modern capitalism self
• 2:10:43
  actualization isn't particularly a priority which I can
• 2:10:47
  understand why it's it's it's a hard world out there.
• 2:10:49
  I I I get, I get why. But I I think that you know part
• 2:10:55
  of it is due to the society that we've built around us.
• 2:10:58
  We've built a a class based society where people are sort of
• 2:11:02
  thrown to the wolves if you will and and it it doesn't it doesn't
• 2:11:07
  benefit us for this to be happening.
• 2:11:09
  A lot of the people on the street that you've sort of
• 2:11:11
  described Lucifer, their their veterans and things like that.
• 2:11:15
  An incredible amount of veterans are homeless and you know, I've
• 2:11:19
  put it to you that they would be productive members of society if
• 2:11:24
  they were given the assistance to get over that PTSD and all of
• 2:11:28
  the horrible things they've had to experience on, you know, in
• 2:11:32
  in service of their country. I have to agree with you on that
• 2:11:36
  part because my sister, she was also a veteran.
• 2:11:39
  She served her country. She's not homeless or anything.
• 2:11:42
  She actually is a mother of three now and she is doing
• 2:11:46
  great. I have a great respect from our
• 2:11:48
  veterans and I thank them for everything.
• 2:11:51
  But I'm I'm what? And.
• 2:11:56
  But you are aware that the hot? Sorry to interject, but you are
• 2:11:58
  aware that. They.
• 2:11:59
  No, you're fine. You're fine.
• 2:12:00
  Those. People, Yeah.
• 2:12:01
  So where I was gonna go at, what I was gonna go with is like,
• 2:12:05
  let's take, for example, some of our inner cities.
• 2:12:08
  One of the worst ones is San Francisco.
• 2:12:10
  Now, as we know, San Francisco has been going downhill for
• 2:12:13
  decades now. But back in the day, you know,
• 2:12:17
  it was the gem of America at one point.
• 2:12:21
  But nowadays you when you actually look on a map of San
• 2:12:25
  Francisco, it's just covered with poop marks, reports of poop
• 2:12:32
  everywhere because homeless people are deprecating on
• 2:12:34
  streets. And then you go walking down it,
• 2:12:39
  you listen to the people who actually live there and they're
• 2:12:43
  horrified to live there. You can't afford housing there
• 2:12:46
  is completely unaffordable for like a one bedroom unit there.
• 2:12:50
  It's over $1,000,000 US currency and you know, you step outside,
• 2:12:59
  you need basically need armored shoes on because you don't know
• 2:13:02
  if you're going to be stepping on a needle or you're going to
• 2:13:05
  be stepping into feces and or any of this other crap.
• 2:13:10
  It's absolutely insane. And there's videos of even the
• 2:13:15
  mayor of San Francisco walking down the street street, passing
• 2:13:18
  right by a junkie who's shooting up right there on camera with
• 2:13:21
  her. And this has happened numerous
• 2:13:23
  times. I mean, what do you think about
• 2:13:26
  these people who are not contributing?
• 2:13:30
  And before you answer, remind you, I don't blame these
• 2:13:35
  particular people. I blame the social government,
• 2:13:39
  the government of San Francisco for allowing this stuff to
• 2:13:42
  progress so horribly far. But do you think that these
• 2:13:49
  people are perfectly within their right to do that?
• 2:13:52
  Look I I I think that so addiction is a a a a horrific
• 2:13:58
  thing. It's it's absolutely horrific.
• 2:13:59
  I've I've met people with addiction problems and I can't
• 2:14:03
  speak to San Francisco. I've never actually been to
• 2:14:05
  America. So I'll find it difficult to
• 2:14:07
  make commentary on a lot. Of I was going to ask you, are
• 2:14:11
  you Australian or UK, Australian, Australian,
• 2:14:14
  Australian? But but I have, you know
• 2:14:17
  addiction is a massive problem but the a lot of the problem in
• 2:14:22
  my opinion is that addiction is a coping mechanism with other
• 2:14:28
  mental illness. So again, we're sort of getting
• 2:14:30
  back to people having mental illness and it not being
• 2:14:33
  addressed. And I agree that the government
• 2:14:36
  needs to do more and I just did a quick look of, you know, sort
• 2:14:40
  of apparently San Francisco has public toilets, but they're paid
• 2:14:45
  public toilets that that you pay for them.
• 2:14:48
  So it's things like this that the government do that they
• 2:14:52
  don't sort of foresee what happens down the future.
• 2:14:55
  I know that toilets can be sort of, you know, havens for people
• 2:14:59
  to go and and use substance and and have problems with, you
• 2:15:03
  know, I know that, but what's the alternative?
• 2:15:05
  You get defecation on the street if you limit access to them.
• 2:15:09
  So what we're talking about is sort of sort of these these
• 2:15:15
  policies that they're implementing and and you know
• 2:15:17
  I'm not going to lay everything at the foot of capitalism, but
• 2:15:20
  when you're charging for for citizens to be able to go to a
• 2:15:25
  public toilet and defecate, you know you're you're really making
• 2:15:29
  a poor decision as far as outcomes is concerned.
• 2:15:34
  So I I don't so with with America in particular and and I
• 2:15:40
  have problems with the way that America in general I I would
• 2:15:44
  love for America to say make the military smaller and you know do
• 2:15:50
  a lot more with that money for you know things like like
• 2:15:53
  Medicare for all and and taking care of their citizens.
• 2:15:57
  I don't have any power over that but morally that's what I'd say
• 2:16:01
  they ought to do. So I mean I could, I could wax
• 2:16:04
  lyrical on how the the San Francisco government could
• 2:16:07
  perhaps stop putting up large you know, sculptures and
• 2:16:12
  artistic things and and and focus on on the poor of their
• 2:16:15
  city and the less fortunate, get people off substance by
• 2:16:20
  addiction programs that actually work.
• 2:16:24
  But you know the the military complex is going to steam
• 2:16:28
  onwards the the, you know, the focus of the government is is
• 2:16:33
  making you know corporations making more money and producing
• 2:16:37
  more stuff. I think that the some of the
• 2:16:40
  European countries, like the Scandinavian countries, Sweden,
• 2:16:44
  Norway, Finland, these kind of countries have kind of done
• 2:16:48
  really well to address those those kind of problems.
• 2:16:52
  I have to agree with you on that, yeah.
• 2:16:55
  I would just. Agree because Scandinavia is
• 2:16:58
  kind of just leeching off the capitalism that was built up
• 2:17:01
  during the 70s and the the European nations are just also
• 2:17:04
  just leeching off of the American success.
• 2:17:07
  We we are the ones who provides the military defence.
• 2:17:09
  We're the ones building the weapons and and all the medical
• 2:17:12
  we're the ones building all technology.
• 2:17:16
  It's not like a you know you see much of that like in I don't
• 2:17:21
  know Poland. Poland doesn't have a a Silicon
• 2:17:25
  Valley. Poland is in a Scandinavian
• 2:17:28
  country, Double S. European, European, European.
• 2:17:32
  It's still in the European IT. It does sort of fall into the
• 2:17:35
  Nordic countries. Yeah, it'll.
• 2:17:38
  Be. Nordic probably, but not not
• 2:17:40
  Nordic, no. I'm I'm talking more of Sweden
• 2:17:42
  and Norway. Netherlands is the same.
• 2:17:45
  I mean, I was in the Netherlands one year and and sort of talking
• 2:17:49
  to to people there and their crime rates like they had to
• 2:17:53
  close a prison down because they didn't have enough prisoners.
• 2:17:55
  And and they attribute it to sort of legalizing things that
• 2:18:01
  don't really matter that much. And also doing a a a
• 2:18:06
  rehabilitative prison system instead of a because I mean the
• 2:18:12
  prison system in the US basically they're just using
• 2:18:15
  slave labor for corporate projects.
• 2:18:18
  That's essentially what they're doing.
• 2:18:20
  It is a horrific system where you've got people you know on
• 2:18:23
  call centers doing work for companies, you know this this
• 2:18:26
  kind of thing, It's not rehabilitative, it's punitive
• 2:18:30
  and and exploitative is in my opinion.
• 2:18:33
  Well, I don't think we should. Well, I'm not interested in
• 2:18:36
  rehabilitating all of them. For example, I think the
• 2:18:41
  pedophiles brought earlier. That said, there was a lot to
• 2:18:44
  bring back the execution of pedophiles.
• 2:18:46
  I'm OK with not really healing, militating them.
• 2:18:49
  I wouldn't go for execution, but I certainly, I certainly would
• 2:18:52
  support chemical castration for somebody.
• 2:18:55
  I think that that's a good solution.
• 2:18:57
  In fact, where you're not killing them, they can still be
• 2:18:59
  productive, they just won't have any urges that will.
• 2:19:02
  Well, why not just? Instead of wasting.
• 2:19:05
  The money on the chemical castration?
• 2:19:06
  Why not just chop it off in person?
• 2:19:09
  Well, the the problem with that is that what if you have a
• 2:19:12
  unfair conviction or or a person that is coerced to confess and
• 2:19:16
  then he's exonerated later? How do you address that problem?
• 2:19:20
  I mean. That's chemical.
• 2:19:22
  Castration let. Let me finish.
• 2:19:24
  A lot of bad things to the body, I mean.
• 2:19:27
  Well, let let me finish it off. There's no real let me finish.
• 2:19:30
  I'm sorry. I got interrupted by bubbles
• 2:19:32
  again. So chemical castration, at least
• 2:19:36
  you can stop the chemicals. And yeah, it does have side
• 2:19:38
  effects, but you can at least sort of compensate them for that
• 2:19:42
  in some degree. If you're talking about cutting
• 2:19:44
  something off of them, well, that's something you can't
• 2:19:46
  compensate them for. Now you know how how much is is
• 2:19:49
  your your genitalia worth to you?
• 2:19:51
  You know that's that's horrific. So as a better solution.
• 2:19:55
  As Bretton Garcia said, it would only be done in cases when we
• 2:19:58
  have 100% proof we. Never have 100% certainty in
• 2:20:02
  cases. I think a video evidence like an
• 2:20:05
  R Kelly is kind of undeniable. There was there's there's
• 2:20:11
  definitely issues. A lot of these pedophiles,
• 2:20:14
  you'll probably notice they like to collect images and you can
• 2:20:18
  usually find the stuff on their computers.
• 2:20:20
  That's how they're found in the 1st place.
• 2:20:23
  Just recently I was looking on Twitter and I've seen one of the
• 2:20:26
  most disgusting acts of humanity I've ever seen in my life.
• 2:20:29
  Apparently some people went into someone's home and they looked
• 2:20:33
  on these people's phones and ended up finding out that they
• 2:20:36
  were basically sexually abusing their animals.
• 2:20:39
  So yeah, there there is a way to get a hunt I want.
• 2:20:42
  To hear about that. That's, well, I'm just telling
• 2:20:45
  you that there is ways to get evidence for it.
• 2:20:47
  Yeah, I know. But yeah, I, I, I, I sort of
• 2:20:52
  push back against this idea of 100% evidence.
• 2:20:55
  Because what you usually find, it's like the death penalty kind
• 2:20:59
  of thing. They go, oh, there's 100%
• 2:21:00
  evidence, but we know that, like a significant percentage of
• 2:21:04
  people on death row are actually innocent and people have been
• 2:21:07
  exonerated from death row before.
• 2:21:10
  So while it sounds good in practice in theory, sorry, in
• 2:21:14
  practice there will always be a few people that slip through the
• 2:21:18
  cracks when making those designations.
• 2:21:21
  That the whole point is, sometimes it looks 100% solid
• 2:21:24
  and it's not. OK, so so you're telling us it
• 2:21:27
  is possible the R Kelly videos could have just been a
• 2:21:31
  hallucination? Did I say that?
• 2:21:34
  Well, that's why you have. That's what you would have to
• 2:21:36
  suggest. Did I say that?
• 2:21:39
  Yes, that's what you would have to suggest.
• 2:21:41
  So I said, I said the R Kelly videos are I'm.
• 2:21:44
  Saying that's what you would have to suggest.
• 2:21:47
  What did I say, Bubbles? What did I say?
• 2:21:49
  You say you couldn't achieve this 100% percent evidence and
• 2:21:54
  and I'm telling you well. Yes you can.
• 2:21:55
  No, that's not what I said. So do you agree with you can
• 2:21:59
  achieve 100% evidence? Yeah, so it it's incredible what
• 2:22:03
  you get from what I say and it. Feels.
• 2:22:05
  Oh, I ask again. Do.
• 2:22:06
  You think hang on a? Second, you can achieve a. 100.
• 2:22:09
  Percent. Evidence.
• 2:22:10
  It feels like you just straw man me all the time.
• 2:22:13
  Because what I said was while in theory saying you have to have
• 2:22:17
  100% evidence and will only do it on 100% evidence sounds good
• 2:22:22
  in theory, in practice there's always a few that slipped
• 2:22:27
  through the cracks that we think it's 100% evidence and it turns
• 2:22:31
  out not to be the case. So how did you get from that to
• 2:22:36
  R Kelly's tape was and a hallucination?
• 2:22:39
  How did you get there? Margaret, that's Those
• 2:22:42
  situations clearly weren't 100% evidence correct.
• 2:22:47
  We think that well, we think it was 100%.
• 2:22:49
  When somebody claiming, somebody claiming it to be 100% talk is
• 2:22:54
  not it's my turn, is it not? Is it my turn?
• 2:22:57
  Is it not Well? You asked me a question.
• 2:23:00
  I was replying, so I let you talk.
• 2:23:03
  Then it was my turn to talk. Wow.
• 2:23:09
  Relax, relax. And you have to remember
• 2:23:11
  earlier, before Mark came in, I did say, although I'm poor,
• 2:23:15
  ending the lives of pedophiles and all that, I also stated that
• 2:23:20
  I don't trust our system as well and that makes me really
• 2:23:23
  hesitate on going full throttle with this.
• 2:23:27
  But if someone has proved without a doubt, I mean if
• 2:23:30
  they're on camera, they've confessed it all that I say
• 2:23:33
  throw them in the Colosseum and make it a pay-per-view event.
• 2:23:36
  I mean, I've been in a society where public punishment was
• 2:23:43
  still used. I used to live in the UAE back
• 2:23:46
  in the early 80s. Public punishments were still a
• 2:23:49
  big thing back then, and you saw it all the time.
• 2:23:52
  You saw people being stoned to death by Sharia law, people
• 2:23:57
  getting drugged out of taxis and burned to death in the streets.
• 2:24:00
  And in certain Islamic countries, you still see this
• 2:24:03
  sort of behavior still going on. Now I'm with Brett.
• 2:24:08
  I'm with finding all the evidence to.
• 2:24:10
  Prove. 100% solid that you have a guilty party on the hook.
• 2:24:17
  I do not agree with Sharia law or how it works.
• 2:24:20
  But what I will say is, having witnessed public executions, the
• 2:24:26
  psychological effect it has on the populace is 100% effective.
• 2:24:34
  It does curb illegal acts. It does preemptively curb
• 2:24:40
  illegal actions. It is it nice?
• 2:24:43
  No, it's not intended to be nice.
• 2:24:46
  So having public executions, having thieves getting their
• 2:24:52
  hands cut off and whatnot, it absolutely has the effect that
• 2:24:57
  the government would want it to have in preemptively halting a
• 2:25:01
  lot of criminal activity. There is one other thing too,
• 2:25:06
  and I haven't said this in the show yet, but I do think that
• 2:25:10
  people who cry rape or say that they've been abused when they
• 2:25:14
  haven't been, I think they should get extreme time for that
• 2:25:18
  if it is shown without a doubt that they deliberately lied
• 2:25:21
  about somebody to ruin their life.
• 2:25:24
  Because you know just as well as I, if somebody didn't rape or
• 2:25:27
  they didn't molest, if they've been accused of it, whether the
• 2:25:30
  court lets them go or not, in America you're guilty no matter
• 2:25:33
  what. So I think people who lie like
• 2:25:36
  that should pay. I'm of.
• 2:25:38
  The opinion that. If a person lies like that about
• 2:25:41
  another person, I'm of the opinion that they should
• 2:25:44
  actually suffer the ACT that they accuse that other person of
• 2:25:47
  doing. I think that they should be
• 2:25:49
  publicly made to suffer that act so that they understand what it
• 2:25:53
  is they accuse that person of. Well that won't stop people so
• 2:25:57
  so in all of this and and like I hear what you're saying about
• 2:26:00
  public executions and stuff. Lucifer, I, I I really want to
• 2:26:04
  push back on that because we've studied public well sort of
• 2:26:08
  executions and and death penalty and it doesn't actually
• 2:26:12
  discourage anybody from committing the crime.
• 2:26:15
  That's the thing, like these kind of punishments, corporal
• 2:26:18
  punishment, capital punishment, they don't actually prevent
• 2:26:23
  crime. What does prevent crime is sort
• 2:26:26
  of rehabilitating people, so they're not committing crime.
• 2:26:30
  That's why. I've.
• 2:26:33
  Had so much success. And so we've studied this and
• 2:26:36
  then we've got studies showing statistically that the, that the
• 2:26:39
  states with capital punishment actually have more crime than
• 2:26:43
  the states without it. And when they took away capital
• 2:26:49
  or they instituted capital punishment, I think it was in
• 2:26:51
  Canada for a short amount of time It it did nothing to change
• 2:26:56
  the the rights of incidents. It doesn't actually work as a
• 2:27:00
  preventative measure. Then explain the why Vlad Tepes
• 2:27:04
  Dracuya could set a golden chalice in every single village
• 2:27:08
  in his province during his time frame, the 1400s, and then put
• 2:27:13
  right next to it a row of impaled thieves and say this
• 2:27:16
  chalice is for everybody in the community.
• 2:27:18
  Nobody steals it, and nobody steals that golden chalice.
• 2:27:24
  OK. So that that sounds like sort of
• 2:27:26
  11 anecdotal thing for a village I'm not sure it works on.
• 2:27:29
  That's for an entire country. That's the entire country
• 2:27:33
  fearing the punishment. I think just recently I think El
• 2:27:41
  Salvador president was like, they don't know how to, you
• 2:27:45
  know, order 66 on like all the gangs.
• 2:27:47
  He's pretty much crack down on all crime.
• 2:27:51
  Yeah, but that's great. Just missing Mod.
• 2:27:53
  You're making me blush over here.
• 2:27:54
  Continue on, Mark. Yeah, that sort of, you know,
• 2:27:58
  suggests that he's like, if that was me in that country, I would
• 2:28:01
  think he's springing a trap, to be honest with you.
• 2:28:05
  Excuse me, folks, I have to go use the little aliens room.
• 2:28:07
  I'll be right back. It's.
• 2:28:11
  The little aliens room. That's funny.
• 2:28:13
  Yeah, apparently. Apparently on a UFO.
• 2:28:15
  That's OK. I'm I'm.
• 2:28:15
  I'm all for it. I'm all for it.
• 2:28:18
  So what about you missing, Ma? Do you trust the American
• 2:28:21
  government enough to be able to make decisions about people's
• 2:28:24
  lives, life and death? Yeah, you do.
• 2:28:28
  And it's great since you're optimistic.
• 2:28:29
  That's why I liked you. Thank.
• 2:28:33
  You So what end, may I ask, like, do you do you, do you
• 2:28:36
  think that it has a good effect on society or a bad effect on
• 2:28:41
  society? What?
• 2:28:42
  What? What benefit do we get by
• 2:28:43
  executing people? Well.
• 2:28:47
  You don't have to look at them anymore.
• 2:28:48
  Go ahead, Miss Mudd. Yeah, that too.
• 2:28:50
  And it and it brings justice to some people.
• 2:28:53
  I mean, depending on what their crimes are.
• 2:28:55
  I don't know what you'd have to be specific, but yeah, I think
• 2:28:59
  that they're smart and know what's up.
• 2:29:02
  Well I I get that I I do get that that it may provide sort of
• 2:29:06
  a a you know people might want to see sort of that that sort of
• 2:29:12
  punishment or that kind of you know I I guess vengeance or or
• 2:29:15
  or or revenge enacted upon the people that have wronged them.
• 2:29:20
  Well a a lot of the well justice is a you know I, I, I you're
• 2:29:26
  sort of tangent in a lot What what I'm sort of saying is that
• 2:29:29
  a lot of people say that that's what they want upfront but don't
• 2:29:32
  feel that way after the execution that they don't feel
• 2:29:35
  any better at all. So really we we're asking sort
• 2:29:41
  of what actually works. It's not for the people out
• 2:29:45
  there, it's for the person that was killed you.
• 2:29:48
  It's it's not easy to get a conviction where they where they
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  are actually executed, but it it's usually because they've
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  taken a life of of somebody's you know.
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  So that's what it's justice for as the dead person.
• 2:30:04
  Sure, but that that's a different thing than getting a
• 2:30:07
  sense of justice. Like, so who, Who what?
• 2:30:10
  What? What's your your definition of
• 2:30:11
  justice? Then what?
• 2:30:13
  What? What is life?
• 2:30:14
  Where does that come from? A life for a life.
• 2:30:18
  Yeah, I mean that in that that seems fair to me.
• 2:30:21
  I mean, you, you know, I don't know what, what, what?
• 2:30:24
  How could you punish somebody other than life in prison?
• 2:30:26
  Which means you gotta, you know, everybody else has to pay for
• 2:30:29
  them to survive for the rest of their life, you know?
• 2:30:32
  So if a judge sentence someone to death and they turn out to be
• 2:30:35
  inner and they're exonerated afterwards, like has been shown
• 2:30:39
  in a a lot of, well, you know, a significant amount of death
• 2:30:42
  penalty cases, could the judge then be killed?
• 2:30:47
  Well, I mean do you take the risk of not, no, because they
• 2:30:51
  their, their decision is for the people.
• 2:30:53
  So, I mean do you take their, you know, are we supposed to
• 2:30:58
  just let take the risk and let them let them live and do
• 2:31:00
  whatever? What if they are guilty?
• 2:31:02
  You know, there's always going to be a mistake in there
• 2:31:04
  somewhere because we're imperfect.
• 2:31:05
  But I think that it's worth the, you know, I think like I said,
• 2:31:10
  they've got to prove it in court, you know, in front of a
• 2:31:12
  jury and everything else. I mean it's it's hard to get a a
• 2:31:17
  death penalty connection on somebody that's innocent, I'm
• 2:31:20
  sure. Maybe it's not.
• 2:31:22
  It it it surprisingly happens more frequently than you think
• 2:31:26
  that that innocent people go to the death row.
• 2:31:29
  Do you think you would feel the same if you were the 1 unjustly
• 2:31:32
  convicted and sentenced to death?
• 2:31:35
  Oh, I would definitely hate that.
• 2:31:37
  But you know, I. But you would support the death
• 2:31:40
  penalty in that case saying, hey, well, I'm just, you know,
• 2:31:43
  I'm a necessary sacrifice for justice to be done.
• 2:31:47
  No, I would. I would fight it tooth and nail.
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  I mean, just like a person that's guilty.
• 2:31:52
  It would do the same, you know, Of course I would hate that, but
• 2:31:55
  at the same time, the system works for all of us.
• 2:31:57
  Well, you know, in America anyway, keeps the bad.
• 2:32:01
  I mean, you know, there's always going to be something slipping
• 2:32:03
  through the cracks, but I think that it's overall positive and
• 2:32:06
  it would have a lot more people out on the streets that are
• 2:32:08
  killing people or robbing people or committing crimes that would
• 2:32:12
  make everyone's life suck. Mark, there's.
• 2:32:15
  A lot of studies, yes. That's not the case.
• 2:32:18
  That's the thing. I appreciate your compassion and
• 2:32:23
  sympathy for both studies and feeling like there's feeling
• 2:32:27
  like there's some kind of other outcome or alternative and stuff
• 2:32:30
  that doesn't involve death, But I'm curious how far the result
• 2:32:34
  goes. Let's say you come home and
• 2:32:36
  someone that you love or you're attached to.
• 2:32:38
  You see them being killed by someone, you see them literally
• 2:32:42
  fall to the ground, they are dead and you see the person
• 2:32:46
  actually doing it. Do you feel like you have the
• 2:32:49
  human right to be able to end their life?
• 2:32:52
  No. Well, what would you do?
• 2:32:55
  I would restrain them if I can. If I felt my life was in danger,
• 2:33:00
  well, I would say. In that particular instance,
• 2:33:05
  your life certainly would be in danger.
• 2:33:08
  Well, if it's in danger than somebody.
• 2:33:10
  And you just witnessed it. You're now a liability or Mark
• 2:33:15
  Ray doesn't think you have the right to do it.
• 2:33:17
  Why? Why not just?
• 2:33:18
  I mean, let's say you have a gun on you.
• 2:33:20
  Why wouldn't you just put that bastard down?
• 2:33:23
  You've seen them kill your loved one.
• 2:33:26
  Because he doesn't. Think that's the right?
• 2:33:29
  No, no, no. I want to hear Mark.
• 2:33:30
  I I want to hear his view. I appreciate his compassion and
• 2:33:34
  his his. Argument.
• 2:33:36
  Just before I do answer, this is what I've got to point out every
• 2:33:39
  every time I'm asked a question bubbles answers.
• 2:33:41
  And it's not not the answer that that I have kind of bubbles and
• 2:33:46
  I'll. Put the I've let Mark's answer.
• 2:33:49
  Go. I I OK, so so I think that.
• 2:33:54
  Yeah. And and here's the thing, like
• 2:33:56
  everybody's fallible and an emotional state and things like
• 2:33:59
  that and and I would be absolutely, you know, angry,
• 2:34:03
  upset and everything. But would killing someone
• 2:34:07
  actually make the world a better place?
• 2:34:09
  I don't think it would. I think I would just be sort of
• 2:34:13
  solving my own anger and and that wouldn't even make me feel
• 2:34:17
  better. That's the thing, like tons of
• 2:34:19
  people think that, that taking out somebody would would make
• 2:34:22
  them feel better and it doesn't. All it does is make you feel
• 2:34:26
  like crap and have to deal with more trauma for the rest of your
• 2:34:29
  life. So and yeah, I do think that
• 2:34:34
  people do have, when we do sort of say a right to to bodily
• 2:34:38
  autonomy and bodily integrity. Certainly if I'm in danger or
• 2:34:42
  you know, I have to subdue somebody that that is
• 2:34:44
  overridden, you know, by by just necessity.
• 2:34:49
  Like I'm not going to lay down and die because I have to
• 2:34:52
  respect somebody else's body or bodily autonomy.
• 2:34:55
  No. If if if I'm in danger or my
• 2:34:57
  loved ones in danger, I'm going to do whatever I can and and if
• 2:35:01
  that means killing somebody, that means killing somebody.
• 2:35:04
  But if it's not in defence and that person surrendered, say no,
• 2:35:08
  I wouldn't. I wouldn't take revenge like
• 2:35:10
  that. Or at least I I hope I wouldn't.
• 2:35:13
  I guess I don't know because I've never been in that
• 2:35:15
  situation. In fairness, Brett, you know I
• 2:35:16
  can't say you know would would I, would I give in to rage and
• 2:35:21
  and pop them if I was in that search, maybe I would.
• 2:35:24
  It's impossible to say, right. Have we ever experienced that?
• 2:35:28
  I'm. I'm so sorry if you have I I
• 2:35:30
  haven't. Well, I appreciate the
• 2:35:33
  intellectual honesty. I don't think that anybody, if
• 2:35:36
  they're in that type of moment that they're they're gonna be
• 2:35:39
  absolutely sure what they're gonna do.
• 2:35:40
  Some people might shut their pants.
• 2:35:42
  Some people might run. Some people might just go
• 2:35:45
  completely fucking bonkers. Norman Bates on that ass, Who
• 2:35:48
  knows? Never know.
• 2:35:50
  But do you think they should be locked up?
• 2:35:51
  If if they do, let's say they do, do you think they should be
• 2:35:54
  locked up because they did. What do you mean?
• 2:35:58
  Do you think they should be locked up?
• 2:36:00
  If they did, let's say you killed a matter of you know,
• 2:36:03
  somebody comes in and you kill them.
• 2:36:06
  Do you think they should? They should be locked up for
• 2:36:09
  killing this. Person it it depends.
• 2:36:11
  It depends on the situation like maybe maybe they can sort of go
• 2:36:16
  for insanity. And I I completely understand
• 2:36:19
  that if if sort of mental illness is a is a huge thing in
• 2:36:23
  that it may be mental illness that got them to do that.
• 2:36:26
  If it is just unjustified revenge for no other reason than
• 2:36:31
  sort of you know revenge over something.
• 2:36:34
  I I can't see how that's good for society people taking
• 2:36:37
  revenge over slights. So I'd say yeah there should be
• 2:36:39
  some punishment but keep in mind that we have a legal system that
• 2:36:44
  does address mitigating factors for a reason.
• 2:36:48
  So it's something like experiencing that and seeing you
• 2:36:52
  know would be a huge mitigating factor factor in, in you know
• 2:36:56
  that kind of conviction. Well, let's say somebody is like
• 2:36:59
  in my car trying to take my car. I'm not shooting them out of
• 2:37:02
  revenge. I'm shooting them because
• 2:37:03
  they're trying to take my car. Yeah.
• 2:37:08
  How would you kill them though? Yeah, I I would.
• 2:37:11
  Kill them? No idea.
• 2:37:12
  I would kill somebody with a Bugatti.
• 2:37:15
  I personally live in South Carolina and here we have Castle
• 2:37:20
  Law and it was literally just explained to me less than two
• 2:37:23
  weeks ago that Castle Law states that if you are on your
• 2:37:27
  property, anywhere on your property or even in your
• 2:37:31
  vehicle, because your vehicle is still considered property, if
• 2:37:34
  somebody is trying to harm you and you feel enough of a threat,
• 2:37:38
  you can drop that fucker. You can drop him stone cold
• 2:37:41
  dead, even if you're in the middle of a parking lot in your
• 2:37:44
  car and that person is trying to take your car, get break into
• 2:37:48
  your car with you in it. If you feel that they are enough
• 2:37:51
  of a threat to your life, you can kill them and you will not
• 2:37:56
  get arrested. That's pretty horrifying.
• 2:37:58
  You know, you've got to ask, well, what if somebody lose
• 2:38:01
  somebody back to their house? They could just sort of claim
• 2:38:03
  Castle Doctrine. I know what you're talking
• 2:38:05
  about, Castle Doctrine. And I might add that you've got
• 2:38:09
  more of a chance of shooting a family member than you do an
• 2:38:12
  actual criminal. Mark, I I don't recall where you
• 2:38:16
  said that you were from, but in America, even if a person does
• 2:38:20
  get restrained and the court system somehow does you right
• 2:38:24
  and gets them put in a cage for a while, unfortunately, even in
• 2:38:28
  our prison systems, a person is going to end up getting turned
• 2:38:32
  into someone's girlfriend or sold for a pack of cigarettes.
• 2:38:35
  So, I mean, how far does it go? You know what I'm.
• 2:38:39
  Saying you're screwed out of your.
• 2:38:41
  Way in America. Well, yeah, no.
• 2:38:43
  And I I, as I said, I have a lot of problems with the way the
• 2:38:47
  American prison system works. Not not only the exploitation of
• 2:38:54
  prisoners for corporate gains. I also have a problem with the
• 2:38:58
  the way they handle prisoners. The way that they they go out of
• 2:39:01
  their way to lock people up for minor transgressions or things
• 2:39:05
  that they could you know still be useful in society.
• 2:39:08
  You know someone someone you know they used to lock people up
• 2:39:11
  for marijuana use kind of thing. I mean that person probably
• 2:39:15
  needs addiction help not not to be locked up in A and you know
• 2:39:19
  they used to treat marijuana exactly the same as sort of a a
• 2:39:22
  high level drug like like opiates or something.
• 2:39:25
  It was ridiculous. So I've got a lot of problems
• 2:39:29
  with the way that they they kind of do things, but you've got a
• 2:39:33
  lot of systemic problems over there that I don't think that I
• 2:39:39
  could solve. But when we're talking morally,
• 2:39:40
  we're talking about oughts, right?
• 2:39:42
  We're talking about ought we do this or ought we do that.
• 2:39:45
  So I grant you, in a perfect world, we may be able to, you
• 2:39:49
  know, do do things like do more of ankle bracelets and home
• 2:39:53
  imprisonment and things like that.
• 2:39:56
  But I realize that's not the world we live in.
• 2:39:59
  But, you know, we're talking about ports at the moment or we
• 2:40:03
  do this to people or we do that. And no, I don't think that
• 2:40:06
  people should be, you know, people that that get people
• 2:40:10
  should be protected in prison as well.
• 2:40:11
  Yes, I agree with that. And half the time, the people
• 2:40:15
  that are doing the, the transgressions in prison are the
• 2:40:19
  prison staff. So there's problems there as
• 2:40:21
  well. So yeah, it becomes very, very
• 2:40:25
  hard. And I'm I'm from Australia, so
• 2:40:28
  we we don't, we sort of don't have guns at all.
• 2:40:33
  You guys don't need them. We got got Kangaroos of the box,
• 2:40:36
  your ass and crocodiles and eat your ass, so I.
• 2:40:39
  Was going to ask. You.
• 2:40:41
  Hey Mark, have you ever been outside of Australia?
• 2:40:45
  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
• 2:40:46
  Yeah, absolutely. Where all have you travelled?
• 2:40:50
  Oh, I've. I've been to England,
• 2:40:52
  Netherlands, Japan. I've been to where else have I
• 2:40:59
  been? I haven't been to the US I've
• 2:41:02
  definitely been to other places. I've been to Fiji, New Zealand.
• 2:41:10
  Yeah, a few places. I've definitely traveled around.
• 2:41:13
  Yeah, OK. I was just curious.
• 2:41:15
  I was just curious because, you know, I'm glad to hear that
• 2:41:18
  you've been outside of Australia because so few people get to
• 2:41:21
  travel outside their home country and then they start
• 2:41:24
  talking about other countries and they've never been out
• 2:41:28
  eating outside their own territory.
• 2:41:30
  So I was really, I'm really glad to hear that you that you've
• 2:41:32
  made those. Well, it's interesting because
• 2:41:35
  it's interesting because I mean, I meet a lot of people from the
• 2:41:37
  US and I've never been to the USI think that a lot of people
• 2:41:42
  in the US get very uncomfortable when people outside talk about
• 2:41:45
  the US. But the US influences so much in
• 2:41:49
  the Western world in particular, you know, like trade and and
• 2:41:53
  international relations and all of this kind of stuff.
• 2:41:57
  I personally think that and and here's what I've said to Brett
• 2:42:01
  before, I don't know if it remembers, but basically I think
• 2:42:04
  that sort of countries and stuff, they're just arbitrary.
• 2:42:07
  They're just lines that we've drawn.
• 2:42:09
  I like to think of humanity as one species.
• 2:42:12
  We're just one planet, and we've decided to draw these arbitrary
• 2:42:16
  lines. And I understand why and I
• 2:42:17
  understand practically why it's done and all of this thing.
• 2:42:20
  But I think that human beings being on a a, a speck of dirt
• 2:42:25
  floating in the most hostile environment that's ever been
• 2:42:29
  like you're in space, like basically a near perfect vacuum.
• 2:42:33
  I think that it's like ants fighting on a leaf, you know?
• 2:42:37
  I think that the only way humans are going to get anywhere is to
• 2:42:41
  work together as one species, and I know that's not a popular
• 2:42:46
  opinion. I know that there's massive
• 2:42:48
  problems preventing that, But I like to align my thoughts far,
• 2:42:52
  far down the road and say that is the only way we are going to
• 2:42:57
  succeed in this universe. The only way we have got to
• 2:43:01
  realize just you know, we're not in danger, in danger like
• 2:43:04
  something's going to come in and grab you but all it will take is
• 2:43:07
  1 stray asteroid and and smack. We're we're done.
• 2:43:10
  So I think we've got to sort of and a lot of the stuff I do is
• 2:43:15
  going into talk with people with much different opinions, see if
• 2:43:18
  we can find common ground. See if we can find a place to
• 2:43:21
  work from towards all of these problems.
• 2:43:24
  Like you've brought up a ton of great problems that we have in
• 2:43:26
  this world. We can work together to solve
• 2:43:30
  them or we can decide that they're people that we think are
• 2:43:33
  others and push them away and move them outside of our group
• 2:43:36
  and never work together. I I I think that they one way
• 2:43:40
  will be better for humanity and and everybody in humanity and
• 2:43:45
  one way will just lead to strife and war and and tension and and
• 2:43:50
  just all of these horrible things.
• 2:43:52
  And that's my philosophy. I can't believe it's the year
• 2:43:55
  2024 and we're still at wars. Can I believe it is so damn
• 2:44:00
  primitive of thinking? Well, we disagree.
• 2:44:03
  Well, we all disagree. What is good for humanity.
• 2:44:05
  Because Mark is going to say, you know kids, well at least you
• 2:44:09
  know the trans is OK for humanity.
• 2:44:12
  I would say no, that's not good for humanity and the Chinese.
• 2:44:16
  Are you talking about what benefits society?
• 2:44:20
  What I'm trying to go for is that tribalism, the tribalism
• 2:44:24
  conversation, what benefits the group?
• 2:44:28
  Does this have particular mental disorder or mental illness or
• 2:44:32
  this thing? Because Canada, I don't know if
• 2:44:34
  you've been looking into them, but they passed a law recently,
• 2:44:37
  Mark, stating that they want to basically euthanize old people
• 2:44:42
  as well as the mentally ill that are not functional.
• 2:44:45
  And they're also wanting to create suicide clinics for
• 2:44:49
  minors. As long as they are emancipated,
• 2:44:52
  they can actually choose to die if they no longer want to live.
• 2:44:56
  Right, right. Sorry, Fred, I I have to
• 2:44:57
  interrupt. Canada hasn't passed any law
• 2:44:59
  where the government euthanizes old people that that hasn't
• 2:45:03
  happened. Well, could you expand on that?
• 2:45:05
  I I don't. No, it's on the docket.
• 2:45:07
  It hasn't been passed yet. It's, but it's on the docket.
• 2:45:11
  So the the you're saying that they involuntary euthanasia of
• 2:45:15
  old people? Like they don't agree to it.
• 2:45:17
  They just get I I don't believe that for a second.
• 2:45:21
  I'm sorry, I can't look. At anything?
• 2:45:23
  Yeah, Well. Sure, sure.
• 2:45:25
  Could you give me maybe an article on it or or something?
• 2:45:27
  Yeah, you know. Yeah, it's called assisted
• 2:45:30
  dying. Let's see.
• 2:45:33
  That's what they call it tonight.
• 2:45:36
  But that's consensual, isn't it? It's when the person wants to
• 2:45:39
  die. Well, they're wanting to do it.
• 2:45:41
  For the IT should be consensual, but I believe that there's
• 2:45:44
  language in there where they could do it unconsensually.
• 2:45:49
  That's. Fun, It's.
• 2:45:53
  Just a dying. Yeah, They're wanting to do
• 2:45:57
  suicide clinics. Hold on.
• 2:46:01
  Oh, boy. Where is that page I have?
• 2:46:07
  Damn it. Well, you guys keep talking.
• 2:46:10
  I'll get it for you. There was another MSR Mark.
• 2:46:21
  MSR Mark, But he the other guy, the other mark.
• 2:46:23
  Love. Not you, Mark Reid.
• 2:46:25
  There was another one in the corner.
• 2:46:26
  He didn't get a single word in there.
• 2:46:30
  Oh, I mean, maybe maybe the topic wasn't to their liking.
• 2:46:33
  Maybe they didn't feel they had anything to add.
• 2:46:35
  That's OK. I didn't even see anybody.
• 2:46:40
  He was in the bottom right quarter it was.
• 2:46:43
  Here we go. Super tiny thumbnail.
• 2:46:45
  Check this out in two 2016 law legalized assisted.
• 2:46:50
  Hey Brett, can you inflate your tab there so everybody can see?
• 2:46:54
  Oh, I didn't put it on the screen.
• 2:46:56
  I'm going to give you guys a link, though, so you can look at
• 2:46:58
  it because there's so many of you in the room right now.
• 2:47:01
  In 2016, law legalized assisted death for Canadians aged 18 and
• 2:47:06
  older with a serious near. Well, they do.
• 2:47:09
  They're doing this for the sick that we were talking about
• 2:47:11
  earlier, but they're wanting to do this for the old and the
• 2:47:15
  mentally ill as well, and I'm talking about the world to the
• 2:47:19
  point where they can't function. Well, I'm looking at that that
• 2:47:22
  thing and it says to receive euthanasia, patients expressing
• 2:47:26
  disease, disability or terminal illness must sign a written
• 2:47:29
  request expressing their wish to end their life in front of one
• 2:47:32
  independent witness who can confirm it was done willingly,
• 2:47:35
  free of coercion. Next, two physicians and or
• 2:47:39
  nurse practitioners must independently confirm their
• 2:47:41
  written agreement that the patient has an incurable,
• 2:47:44
  grievous, and irredeemable medical condition that is in an
• 2:47:47
  advanced state of irreversible decline, and that the patient is
• 2:47:51
  capable of receiving and willing to receive euthanasia if their
• 2:47:55
  death is not reasonably foreseeable.
• 2:47:58
  A medical expert in the underlying medical condition
• 2:48:00
  must sign off on the request. Their assessment must take at
• 2:48:04
  least 90 days and they must be informed about and decline all
• 2:48:07
  other forms of treatment, including palliative care.
• 2:48:11
  Well, the going going back to what you just said, a medical
• 2:48:16
  professional can circumvent for a way you just made that sound
• 2:48:20
  as if a medical professional says that they don't have the
• 2:48:25
  mental faculty or could you, could you repeat that last
• 2:48:29
  little bit there I believe? If if their death is not
• 2:48:35
  reasonably foreseeable, So if if they're not looking like, if you
• 2:48:39
  don't have, like something that will kill you you know in the
• 2:48:43
  reasonable foreseeable future, then a medical expert in the
• 2:48:47
  underlying medical condition must sign off on the request.
• 2:48:50
  But that's in addition to all the other sign offs, right?
• 2:48:55
  Like the person still. Has to, but but still from
• 2:48:59
  there's that loophole there that's sounding like, well, a
• 2:49:04
  person can come in and circumvent everything else
• 2:49:06
  saying that, yeah, they can go ahead and do this.
• 2:49:11
  No, no, no, no, no, so. Mark, you were talking about,
• 2:49:15
  you were talking about the the benefit of people's health and
• 2:49:19
  all this and the benefit of society.
• 2:49:22
  If young people say that they want to die, that they do not
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  want to live in the society or existence, would you be against
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  that? Do you believe in people's
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  autonomy, their free will to do what they want to with their
• 2:49:35
  body? Yeah, I think, I think bodily
• 2:49:38
  autonomy is is a good thing. I think that somebody like there
• 2:49:43
  was a case in SA of a a young guy who had a like a a basically
• 2:49:50
  his condition rendered him completely like he couldn't do
• 2:49:55
  anything. He was basically bed bound and
• 2:49:58
  just just incapable of doing anything and IA 100% support his
• 2:50:02
  decision to end his life at that point.
• 2:50:04
  I believe that the the guy was I think 17 from memory.
• 2:50:08
  I'd have to look that up though and he just wanted to end his
• 2:50:12
  life. But we're talking about that
• 2:50:14
  person giving expressed consent and this law.
• 2:50:18
  There's there's no loophole to say hey, if the medical expert
• 2:50:21
  says yes they they they can do it.
• 2:50:23
  That's not the case. They need to sign in front of an
• 2:50:27
  independent witness who corroborates it that they that's
• 2:50:31
  what they want. So it's not a case of somebody
• 2:50:34
  coming like the the way you phrase it Brett, is sort of all
• 2:50:37
  the government's going to come and just kill it.
• 2:50:39
  No, that's not happening. It's the Oh no.
• 2:50:41
  No, no, I'm from a Suicide Clinics.
• 2:50:44
  I'm not saying somebody's just going to come up behind you and
• 2:50:46
  whack you the moment you say. So obviously there's going to be
• 2:50:49
  some regulations and stuff because you don't want to get
• 2:50:52
  somebody in there who's just having a bad day and get
• 2:50:55
  themselves screwed over. But what I'm asking you
• 2:50:58
  personally though, if let's say you got a 25 year old, he goes
• 2:51:02
  to the doctors. He says, look, I have crippling
• 2:51:04
  depression. I'm constantly wanting to end my
• 2:51:07
  life. I don't like paying fucking
• 2:51:09
  bills and working like a a slave all my life.
• 2:51:12
  I don't want to do this for the next 50 years.
• 2:51:14
  And me, would you have a problem with them?
• 2:51:18
  Give them a certain amount of days to think about it and then
• 2:51:21
  put them out? Would you be OK with that?
• 2:51:23
  Yeah, I'd have a problem with that because in the cases of
• 2:51:26
  mental illness that that person isn't, isn't in a mental state
• 2:51:31
  to be able to make. There's a reason why we don't,
• 2:51:35
  you know, we have power of attorney for people that can
• 2:51:39
  make decisions on their behalf when they're not in a mental
• 2:51:42
  state to be able to do it. We don't sort of allow somebody
• 2:51:45
  like a, you know, depressed schizophrenic to make decisions
• 2:51:48
  about where their finances will go and things like that.
• 2:51:52
  Why would we allow somebody in that state to make decisions
• 2:51:55
  about whether they want to die or not?
• 2:51:58
  And plus, the wording of this language I actually agree with,
• 2:52:01
  it's an irreversible state or irredeemable state.
• 2:52:05
  So there there's no reason why somebody can't get over
• 2:52:08
  depression. It it it has happened a lot.
• 2:52:11
  People have, you know, come to it.
• 2:52:12
  So really we're just talking about medical illnesses that are
• 2:52:18
  absolutely, you know, basically there's no way to get over them.
• 2:52:22
  They're they're chronic and incurable.
• 2:52:25
  So that might be the case. In a degenerative disease like
• 2:52:30
  Parkinson's for instance, that might be the case, but not
• 2:52:35
  depression and anxiety and things like that, which we know
• 2:52:38
  we can not cure but at least treat right.
• 2:52:41
  We know we can treat it so people have a worthwhile life.
• 2:52:45
  So I don't know how that would apply.
• 2:52:47
  So why? Why wouldn't we be able to
• 2:52:49
  morally argue for let's say we were to morally argue for
• 2:52:53
  people, no matter what their issue is, they choose that this
• 2:52:57
  is what they want to do. I mean, we're willing to send 20
• 2:53:00
  year olds out into a war zone, and we were talking about
• 2:53:04
  veterans earlier. We're willing to send people out
• 2:53:07
  to die, suffer, be tortured, all these things.
• 2:53:11
  Why can't the person choose while they're in society or
• 2:53:13
  culture that they just want to end it right there?
• 2:53:18
  Well, it it depends on the reasons why they're ending it.
• 2:53:21
  I mean, if if they're suicidal for no reason other than they
• 2:53:26
  they feel down about their life, then they're probably not just
• 2:53:29
  down about their life. They're suffering from chronic
• 2:53:32
  and severe depression. Like that's the thing, Brett.
• 2:53:35
  You're sort of saying, hey, they want to end their life, but
• 2:53:37
  they're OK You know, I I think that that's a bit of a a weird
• 2:53:41
  statement to make. Well, for example, the person
• 2:53:45
  you use, you said the person felt like their quality of life
• 2:53:48
  simply wasn't there. Couldn't fucking move.
• 2:53:51
  They couldn't do anything. But what if a person can move
• 2:53:54
  but they don't? They simply don't want to exist.
• 2:53:57
  There are people like that where they just don't like the way the
• 2:54:00
  world is give. Me the.
• 2:54:03
  Bunch of people. Yeah, I I don't.
• 2:54:05
  From your side Mark. Like bunch of.
• 2:54:09
  Well, most of the suit people who said.
• 2:54:11
  Or tend to be. Atheists.
• 2:54:15
  What are you talking about, Bubbles?
• 2:54:17
  I don't know what you're talking about.
• 2:54:19
  I do want to. I do want to point out.
• 2:54:21
  For those out there, for those out there that are looking for
• 2:54:25
  good clips to make about Brett Keane later, keep in mind I
• 2:54:28
  don't subscribe to a lot of these things I'm talking about.
• 2:54:31
  I'm just throwing it out there to see what people's views or
• 2:54:34
  ideas I. Wouldn't know.
• 2:54:36
  I gotcha. Yeah.
• 2:54:37
  No, I touch it. I I I think that that sort of
• 2:54:41
  it's a grey area. Yeah.
• 2:54:42
  But but really we're looking at consent and mental illness.
• 2:54:47
  So can somebody with a mental illness give consent And I don't
• 2:54:51
  think so. I don't think they're in any
• 2:54:53
  position to give consent and that's where you would have to,
• 2:54:57
  you know, I I would say you would have to fall back on
• 2:55:00
  again, I'll reiterate this, the people who have dedicated to
• 2:55:03
  their entire lives to studying it rather than, you know, just
• 2:55:07
  deciding on the Internet and that's why I think that people,
• 2:55:11
  medical practitioners could be involved with it, right.
• 2:55:16
  That that you know in in this case of Canada, which I read
• 2:55:18
  out, you know, medical practitioners are always
• 2:55:21
  involved, especially if it's sort of something where people
• 2:55:24
  don't die in the foreseeable future, you know, it has to be
• 2:55:28
  of that field. It has to be.
• 2:55:29
  They have to be involved. So am I saying that it's
• 2:55:33
  perfect? No.
• 2:55:34
  But I think that somebody who just can't see the point of
• 2:55:38
  going on, they're not in a mental state where they can make
• 2:55:43
  a a responsible and and give responsible consent for that
• 2:55:47
  kind of thing. Because there's always been
• 2:55:51
  times when people are in mental states where they wouldn't have
• 2:55:54
  agreed to do something, they wouldn't have done some act.
• 2:55:58
  That's why we have the insanity play in in the the legal system
• 2:56:04
  because if they they do something and it's a result of
• 2:56:07
  you know some kind of mental disorder then we do we we don't
• 2:56:11
  hold them responsible for their actions.
• 2:56:15
  I. Don't know about you guys, but I
• 2:56:18
  have an issue with that insane plea that goes.
• 2:56:21
  On. It seems like it's taken
• 2:56:23
  advantage of, and it seems like a lot of serial killers and
• 2:56:26
  murderers out there, they know that there's consequences.
• 2:56:29
  They know if I get caught in my little fucking ice cream van
• 2:56:33
  while doing my stupid shit, I'm going to get fucked over on
• 2:56:36
  this. So they are aware of right and
• 2:56:38
  wrong. So I don't.
• 2:56:39
  I don't know how they get off from that shit so easy.
• 2:56:42
  It's not even a question. Of right and wrong.
• 2:56:43
  It's just the law. They know the law and if they
• 2:56:46
  didn't, they wouldn't be trying to hide it.
• 2:56:49
  So they can't. Well, I mean.
• 2:56:50
  To be mentally ill, I remember when everybody and their brother
• 2:56:55
  was trying to claim innocence by reasons of mental illness or
• 2:56:59
  insanity and because everybody was getting off on that.
• 2:57:03
  That's why. And I agree with Mark on This is
• 2:57:07
  why we need to have mental health professionals in there to
• 2:57:11
  determine whether these people really are nuts or not.
• 2:57:16
  But there? And I have to.
• 2:57:18
  Sorry to. Interrupt, please.
• 2:57:20
  But sorry, yeah, I I agree with you.
• 2:57:22
  I do. Sorry, go ahead.
• 2:57:24
  No, I'm interrupting you. Sorry.
• 2:57:25
  My bad. You know, there, you know, you
• 2:57:29
  take a let's let's use a comic book character for a bit of a
• 2:57:33
  personal reference here. But say the Joker out of Batman.
• 2:57:38
  OK, obviously he's criminally insane, but there doesn't seem
• 2:57:42
  to be any redeeming qualities about him.
• 2:57:44
  He he keeps on getting locked up and he get breaks out and he
• 2:57:48
  does more shit wrong. You know, at what point do we
• 2:57:51
  say enough is enough and we just end it?
• 2:57:55
  And you also know, with that Joker's mental illness, even
• 2:57:59
  though we're Speaking of a fictional character, the prick
• 2:58:01
  knows that in 5 minutes of fucking up, Batman's going to
• 2:58:05
  kick his ass. So he knows that's a part.
• 2:58:07
  Of the game. Oh, I think he's actually.
• 2:58:10
  I think he's into it. Oh yeah, Would he actually be
• 2:58:13
  mentally ill or not? I mean, they keep on throwing
• 2:58:15
  him in a loony bin Arkham Asylum, but shouldn't he
• 2:58:19
  actually be going to Black Gate? Well, here's the thing, Here's
• 2:58:23
  the thing. Like, anybody that that sort of
• 2:58:26
  goes for the insanity plea to stop them from going, they're
• 2:58:28
  they're just, that's a stupid thing to do.
• 2:58:31
  Like just because you're found guilty by insanity or not guilty
• 2:58:35
  by insanity doesn't mean they just let you out into the wild
• 2:58:38
  kind of thing. You may even have a worse
• 2:58:41
  experience, like being medicated, having, you know,
• 2:58:44
  being being strapped to to beds like in a mental health facility
• 2:58:50
  than you do in a prison where you get certain amenities.
• 2:58:54
  You know, they might not allow you to have even you know,
• 2:58:57
  certain things on you because you know, who knows what you
• 2:59:01
  might do with it. You know, you might stab another
• 2:59:03
  prisoner with a comb. So you can't have that.
• 2:59:05
  Not that I need it, but, you know, you might not be able to
• 2:59:08
  have a proper toothbrush because you might make it into something
• 2:59:11
  and stabs. You know, there's the the, the,
• 2:59:13
  the the idea that being consigned to a mental health
• 2:59:18
  facility for the rest of your life in all probability is
• 2:59:22
  better than being put in supermax or something like that.
• 2:59:26
  May be a fault like that may not actually be true.
• 2:59:29
  It may be, but it might not be, depending on your experience.
• 2:59:32
  Because some of those guys go to prison and they kind of rule
• 2:59:36
  like kings in the the the prison block kind of thing with gangs.
• 2:59:39
  Exactly, yeah. So I I don't know what things
• 2:59:42
  are like on the criminal justice system in Australia, but here in
• 2:59:46
  the United States they've done away with criminal institutions
• 2:59:51
  for the mentally insane. Now these guys just go straight
• 2:59:55
  to the normal prisons. And I know, because I've been in
• 3:00:00
  there with some pretty sick buggers.
• 3:00:05
  By fair enough. Look, I'm.
• 3:00:07
  I'm going to take off. It was good conversation.
• 3:00:09
  Thank thank you all so much. It was it was really cool.
• 3:00:12
  But I'm going to take off. But it was interesting talking
• 3:00:14
  to you. I I guess can I just say say one
• 3:00:18
  thing to wrap up? Really quickly, before you go,
• 3:00:23
  before you go, and before you say that one last thing, a
• 3:00:27
  little, a little raging. Somebody in the comments has
• 3:00:30
  been wanting to tell you on who you've been talking to for the
• 3:00:34
  longest time now. And so I figured I'm going to
• 3:00:36
  tell you, he wants you to know that I am a former Neo Nazi.
• 3:00:42
  Well, here's the thing. You guys have something in
• 3:00:45
  common because Margaret is also Satanist.
• 3:00:48
  So yeah, I thought you guys would get along.
• 3:00:51
  All right, Mark, I was wanting to let you know that I enjoyed
• 3:00:54
  your company and I hope that you don't make yourself a stranger,
• 3:00:57
  that you come around more often and I could talk.
• 3:01:00
  And I really do appreciate your optimistic way of thinking.
• 3:01:04
  I was to the point where I was ready to take out the world.
• 3:01:07
  Very good. OK, well, for a start, I'm not a
• 3:01:11
  Satanist and never has been. It's.
• 3:01:13
  Just, you know, told me you. Were somebody misrepresenting me
• 3:01:17
  yet again? Which is?
• 3:01:18
  Great, you literally told me. Bubblegum.
• 3:01:20
  You bastard. You do?
• 3:01:23
  You have any footage of me telling you?
• 3:01:24
  I bet you don't like this is this is the thing, Bubbles, I
• 3:01:28
  say. Sorry.
• 3:01:28
  But let's not get into who said what.
• 3:01:32
  Yeah, it's it's really weird. How about you actually like
• 3:01:35
  listen to me, represent myself and try instead of trying to
• 3:01:37
  represent people for them? It's very rude.
• 3:01:41
  But I I think that when morals are concerned, I'm I'm not all
• 3:01:45
  for just sort of enforcing morals upon people.
• 3:01:49
  I I think that secular humanism in particular sort of says well
• 3:01:53
  we're not going to enforce our morals Really all I'm looking
• 3:01:55
  for is sort of a a moral compatibility between people.
• 3:01:59
  What can we agree on come to a compromise on and sort of work
• 3:02:03
  together on. So, you know, I I think that
• 3:02:07
  morality is incredibly complex, incredibly hard to distinguish
• 3:02:12
  and we have to have these conversations about it.
• 3:02:15
  So I I just want to leave it there.
• 3:02:17
  Thank you all so much. And yeah, I'll catch you in the
• 3:02:20
  next one maybe. And.
• 3:02:23
  I'm I'm glad you're not a Neo Nazi anymore, Lucifer.
• 3:02:26
  I'm glad that's the case, you know.
• 3:02:28
  Yeah, I I left it years ago and whatnot.
• 3:02:31
  I was a member of the National Socialist Movement, went to the
• 3:02:34
  rallies, carried a weapon, everything else.
• 3:02:38
  And you know, I don't do that stuff anymore.
• 3:02:40
  And I am who I am. We all make.
• 3:02:45
  Mistakes. That's what I've always been.
• 3:02:47
  Yeah, we all know that. We all know that.
• 3:02:51
  Look, we all make mistakes. We all do things.
• 3:02:53
  We all follow beliefs and then we change them.
• 3:02:55
  That's OK. You know, I'm glad you're out of
• 3:02:58
  it. I think it's a horrible
• 3:02:59
  ideology, Not just one of the most awful ideologies out there.
• 3:03:04
  But I'm glad you're out of it. And you know, I I don't.
• 3:03:07
  I don't want to hold people's former beliefs against them.
• 3:03:10
  I want to. I want to talk to them as as you
• 3:03:12
  are now and you know some of the things I disagree with, sort of
• 3:03:16
  this idea that Darwinism is letting the weak die.
• 3:03:21
  I think that and we could have a massive conversation.
• 3:03:23
  I'm sorry to to do this, but sort of when you talk about
• 3:03:27
  evolutionary drives, humans are social species, so pro social
• 3:03:32
  actions are really important in humanity.
• 3:03:35
  Mark Reed Gay people or evolutionary dead end?
• 3:03:39
  There's no point in helping them.
• 3:03:41
  OK, so. Mark, All right, you're not
• 3:03:44
  going. To go down this rabbit hole
• 3:03:47
  guys. Mark, I wanted.
• 3:03:49
  To let you know something, at 7:00 PM Monday and Friday, 7:00
• 3:03:53
  PM Central, we do a show every Monday and Friday.
• 3:03:55
  You're always welcome, All right.
• 3:03:57
  Link will always be out there. No worries.
• 3:03:59
  Thank you, Bray. I really appreciate it.
• 3:04:01
  But yeah, it's been do you mind if I put this up on my channel?
• 3:04:04
  Just just my section, not not the whole thing.
• 3:04:06
  And. I'll put the whole damn thing.
• 3:04:07
  If you want, you have permission.
• 3:04:09
  Yeah, you're you're actually part of the show for a
• 3:04:12
  significant amount of time. I would say you have every right
• 3:04:14
  to share this. Yeah, I I generally think that
• 3:04:18
  that should be the case, but I'd like to check, you know, just in
• 3:04:21
  case somebody's, you know, it's it's easier to check first than
• 3:04:24
  to get a copyright strike after. Mark, you do know that if I put
• 3:04:29
  the link out days before. So if you ever know that you
• 3:04:33
  have time and you want to be a part of the show, come in,
• 3:04:36
  connect it to where the broadcast to your channel as
• 3:04:39
  well. That's what me and Lucifer are
• 3:04:41
  doing, and a couple others. OK, No problem.
• 3:04:45
  Thanks so much. Take care everybody, and I'll
• 3:04:47
  have a good. 1. Yep.
• 3:04:49
  How are you, everyone? Night.
• 3:04:52
  Oh goodness, let me put missing Mod up here.
• 3:04:55
  She's probably falling asleep. We put a destructive spell on
• 3:04:59
  her. No, I was in the chat talking
• 3:05:02
  to. Everybody I am really.
• 3:05:03
  I enjoy talking to Mark. He's a good guy.
• 3:05:06
  But I really, really wanted you to be able to participate more
• 3:05:10
  into the conversation. I'm really glad you started
• 3:05:13
  finding the confidence to come up and talk to us deck heads.
• 3:05:18
  I like you guys. Had fun?
• 3:05:21
  It's all good. It's all good.
• 3:05:24
  Yeah, it's all going. To missing mod before just as
• 3:05:26
  well spoken. Thank you.
• 3:05:29
  I don't feel that way. Sometimes I feel like I'm like
• 3:05:31
  all over the place. I can't really get a point
• 3:05:33
  across, but I try. I'm figuring it out.
• 3:05:37
  I think you do just fine. Just fine.
• 3:05:41
  This isn't Jeopardy. This isn't Jeopardy.
• 3:05:44
  Take your time. Take your time.
• 3:05:46
  Man and rage has been out there. Just begging and promising and
• 3:05:50
  he wants to come in so bad. He's.
• 3:05:53
  Being a crybaby. He's been given three chances by
• 3:05:57
  Lucifer, and to be honest with you, I've given him a hundred
• 3:06:00
  chances. I've been like even before him
• 3:06:02
  and Lucifer got into it. I actually noticed that Raging
• 3:06:05
  returned to YouTube. Guess what I did Missing.
• 3:06:09
  I went over like I did on your channel, and I said hey, Rage,
• 3:06:13
  nice to see you. I hope you're doing well.
• 3:06:15
  How's the family? Come on over.
• 3:06:17
  Next thing I know, I'm a fucking Nazi.
• 3:06:19
  Manatee monkey. Fucking handlers.
• 3:06:21
  Whatever the hell. He called me.
• 3:06:24
  I have the whole video of his, you know, and if you ever want
• 3:06:29
  to see it, I'll send it to you. He calls you a Nazi half a
• 3:06:32
  million times. Well, my avatar does identify as
• 3:06:36
  a Nazi. I mean a role.
• 3:06:37
  Play an Internet Nazi. Just give us some time.
• 3:06:41
  Rage. Everybody will chill out and
• 3:06:43
  relax. And maybe when Lucifer's feeling
• 3:06:46
  better, you guys can, you know, say I love you and I'm sorry and
• 3:06:50
  all that good shut and kiss and make up all.
• 3:06:52
  I guess who knows? The only time I want to talk to
• 3:06:55
  him is in person, face to face, without a computer monitor in
• 3:06:58
  between us. Let's see how much he runs his
• 3:07:01
  mouth then. God die.
• 3:07:07
  Raging I already know what the video clips are 'cause I
• 3:07:10
  participated in the damn show. Did you not see the title
• 3:07:14
  History of My Goodness? What was the?
• 3:07:18
  National. No, He skipped a one minute
• 3:07:21
  intro. Just a single minute, claiming
• 3:07:23
  that he didn't even see it. Which I you know, Yes, Brett,
• 3:07:27
  you have like a 1520 minute intro and I can understand
• 3:07:31
  skipping that, but you want to try to skip an intro and it's
• 3:07:34
  only a single minute. He there's no way.
• 3:07:37
  He couldn't have known something was different there and I
• 3:07:40
  guarantee. Watch.
• 3:07:41
  Actually, that was your broadcast.
• 3:07:43
  You did the attention thing and then you did the the cool thing
• 3:07:47
  with the music, and that lasted for about two minutes at the
• 3:07:51
  most. So no.
• 3:07:53
  It was. It was literally one minute, 5
• 3:07:56
  seconds. I timed it out.
• 3:07:59
  All of that happened. One minute top five seconds.
• 3:08:01
  People can go over and see that. Well, the point is, is
• 3:08:06
  throughout the video, even if you didn't see the beginning,
• 3:08:09
  every motherfucker in the video said I was former this, I was
• 3:08:13
  former that. And this is the way I used to
• 3:08:16
  fucking think and I changed my ways and stuff.
• 3:08:19
  So that was said many times. So what are you going to do?
• 3:08:24
  You know what I think happened? I think Rage was over there
• 3:08:26
  smoking a fucking bowl, probably having a beer on top of it, and
• 3:08:30
  his fucking brain was somewhere else.
• 3:08:32
  He was just thinking, what kind of video can I make to get me
• 3:08:35
  some fucking views today? And then he got all upset and
• 3:08:39
  when he actually got slapped with a copyright.
• 3:08:44
  And he had a sad yes, yes. Yes.
• 3:08:47
  And Maude, how are you feeling? Have you have you suffered any
• 3:08:50
  sicknesses in the past few months?
• 3:08:53
  Everybody else here has got immunity issues.
• 3:08:56
  No, not really. I mean, I get sick from, you
• 3:08:59
  know, like a cold here and there, but nothing really too
• 3:09:03
  serious. Speaking of that, I wanted to
• 3:09:07
  ask about death curses and what you have to do to make sure,
• 3:09:13
  like, can they kill? Like, if they backfire, can they
• 3:09:17
  kill people in your family? She's nicely saying, Mr.
• 3:09:21
  Lucifer, that she's got a few people on her fucking Christmas
• 3:09:24
  list that needs a goat. I.
• 3:09:26
  Don't know. Well, let's put it this way.
• 3:09:30
  Yes, it's never a guarantee. I don't like calling them death
• 3:09:34
  curses because it's never a guarantee whether somebody's
• 3:09:37
  going to die or not. You know, a curse works one of
• 3:09:41
  two ways. The 1st way, it's going to
• 3:09:44
  either teach you the right from wrong and you're going to reform
• 3:09:48
  and fix what you did wrong. That's going to have the curse
• 3:09:51
  put on you to begin with in order to lift it, or it's going
• 3:09:57
  to fucking destroy your entire life.
• 3:09:58
  Now if that's going to kill you, I would say that would be more
• 3:10:03
  of circumstance. Certainly curses can kill, and
• 3:10:06
  I've seen them kill numerous times and do weird wonky shit
• 3:10:11
  that has caused people to die. There's one individual who I put
• 3:10:17
  a curse on. I was in a really nasty state,
• 3:10:21
  big bad temperament, and inside of a month he got he relapsed
• 3:10:26
  into cancer and he died in less than a month.
• 3:10:31
  There's other instances where it can take months or years for
• 3:10:35
  anything to happen. And you're sitting there going
• 3:10:37
  like, oh, what's that up to my doing?
• 3:10:40
  Or was it not? And usually I'll stay, that
• 3:10:44
  you'll know whether or not it was your doing or not.
• 3:10:47
  But there are those curses out there that are actually intended
• 3:10:52
  to kill, and some of them are tribal.
• 3:10:55
  There's one called death by bone.
• 3:11:00
  And yes, you heard me incorrectly.
• 3:11:02
  I said death by bone. This is actually a documented 1,
• 3:11:08
  excuse me. You know what?
• 3:11:13
  Rage. And you keep on insane guilt by
• 3:11:15
  association. Since I was in a room with some
• 3:11:17
  people who once had these issues, that somehow associates
• 3:11:21
  me. Well, guess what?
• 3:11:23
  You hung out with the Amazing Atheist, so you must stick
• 3:11:25
  bananas in your ass. Fuck ball.
• 3:11:27
  Go ahead. Yeah, I'll address him in just a
• 3:11:31
  second. But death by bone is an old
• 3:11:34
  tribal one. It's where somebody, there's
• 3:11:37
  actual documentation of this occurring.
• 3:11:40
  Where a woman, it was either a woman or a man.
• 3:11:43
  Downtown New York, somebody walked up to her opponent,
• 3:11:47
  pointed a bone at her, said some tribal words, and they fell down
• 3:11:52
  on the street screaming, clutching at their abdomen.
• 3:11:55
  And this person actually believed that there was a
• 3:11:59
  physical bone growing inside their abdomen, killing them
• 3:12:03
  inside of a month. They died and they were in agony
• 3:12:06
  the whole time. Is there a physical bone growing
• 3:12:11
  inside of them? I don't know.
• 3:12:13
  I didn't see any autopsy reports, Sir.
• 3:12:15
  But the point of the matter is, it is a form of execution that
• 3:12:20
  these tribal hunters will track you down for years around the
• 3:12:24
  world, and they will find you and point this bone at you and
• 3:12:27
  curse you with it. That's one death curse.
• 3:12:30
  And then, you know, you have the whole legends of Chutankhamun's
• 3:12:34
  tomb tomb. Was there a death curse on the
• 3:12:37
  door? Chutankhamun?
• 3:12:38
  I don't know. But inside of a month or two,
• 3:12:41
  inside of a few years, almost everybody who opened up that
• 3:12:44
  tomb was dead, you know? So there's a lot, there's a lot
• 3:12:50
  out there that that proves death curses, but there's also a lot
• 3:12:55
  out there that contradicts them. I'm going to point it that way.
• 3:12:59
  As for raging atheists, he keeps on saying that I'm not going to
• 3:13:03
  sue, that I'm not going to sue. Well, give me your information.
• 3:13:07
  You can write the Satanic Thulian Society website.
• 3:13:11
  We have our e-mail there. If you don't think I'm not going
• 3:13:14
  to sue you, then what do you have to fear?
• 3:13:17
  If you think your lawyer is going to crush me in court, go
• 3:13:20
  ahead and give me all the information you want that I need
• 3:13:23
  in order to file a lawsuit. And I will file the lawsuit and
• 3:13:27
  we will see where that is. I was going to say we file it
• 3:13:31
  and it's if if a lawyer says that it's a you got a case then
• 3:13:35
  they can pull his information themself or request it.
• 3:13:40
  I can't imagine how funny that would be in a courtroom,
• 3:13:43
  wouldn't it? Somebody takes your video and
• 3:13:46
  then accuses you repeatedly of being a Nazi and everything
• 3:13:49
  else. Yeah, sure.
• 3:13:51
  A judge would love that. Yes, yes, yes.
• 3:13:54
  Yeah, but I mean, who cares what he thinks, right?
• 3:13:57
  I don't. I mean, I do.
• 3:13:58
  I know. But I mean, I do that lawyers
• 3:14:00
  will say is, well, we don't have their information.
• 3:14:03
  That's why most attorneys don't like going after people online.
• 3:14:07
  But the truth of the matter is they could file a petition to
• 3:14:11
  the channel, and that's why I kind of want to make sure I have
• 3:14:15
  his information on beforehand. That way, lawyer can't say that
• 3:14:19
  we can't file it. People already know who this
• 3:14:22
  person is, They know where he is and we could just file it right
• 3:14:25
  there. Yeah, they'd be cheaper that way
• 3:14:27
  too, probably. And he didn't respect my
• 3:14:30
  pronouns, so got him on that too.
• 3:14:34
  Oh yeah, he didn't respect your pronouns of they, them, zem,
• 3:14:39
  zem. So I identify as most sexiest
• 3:14:42
  motherfucker on the planet and he didn't respect that hiring.
• 3:14:47
  Iron Chariot is in the chat and I think he wants to make a bet
• 3:14:50
  with me $1,000,000 bet. Well, $1,000,000, man, that
• 3:14:54
  would pay some fucking bills. I mean, I heck I I'll give you
• 3:14:58
  guys a share if Iron Cherry comes in.
• 3:15:02
  You gonna give me a share, Iron Cherry.
• 3:15:04
  Get your ass in here right now. Well.
• 3:15:06
  What's the bet? Well, he he wants to make the
• 3:15:09
  bet that the the dog May Shaw evolved from the old Irish
• 3:15:13
  sheepdog. What?
• 3:15:18
  So he Iron Chariot is making the claim the Dalmatia.
• 3:15:22
  I'll be the neutral party here. Yeah, the the the Dalmatia,
• 3:15:26
  which is a pure breed dog, came from the Old English sheepdog
• 3:15:30
  and he's claiming that's where it evolved from, which is
• 3:15:34
  completely silly. All right, you need this.
• 3:15:40
  So I went through this with Smokey St.
• 3:15:43
  Well, Smokey St. was a fucking prolific pedophile and said he
• 3:15:47
  had already had charges and records against him and all
• 3:15:50
  that. So I wouldn't compare the same
• 3:15:52
  kind of damage that could be done if Lucifer took you to
• 3:15:55
  court. Come on there guy, Think about
• 3:15:58
  this. All right, now we got that out
• 3:16:00
  of the way. Mr. Maud, you got some more
• 3:16:03
  questions about magic? Well, I did.
• 3:16:06
  I did have a couple more about the the death curse thing.
• 3:16:08
  I it's kind of like a thing, a name that I just kind of put on
• 3:16:11
  it myself. But I've heard about people.
• 3:16:17
  I think it was three. There was multiple involved in A
• 3:16:20
  in some kind of curse and it came back on them and each one
• 3:16:24
  of them had somebody close to them die, like somebody very
• 3:16:27
  important in their life and you know a.
• 3:16:30
  Lot. Yeah.
• 3:16:31
  Certain curses can cause splash damage.
• 3:16:34
  That's how I would refer. It is.
• 3:16:35
  Yeah. You take a look at the Jane
• 3:16:38
  Mann. Not.
• 3:16:38
  Was it Jane Mann's field? I can't remember, but yeah, I
• 3:16:44
  think it was Gene Mansfield who was hanging out with Anton
• 3:16:46
  Levay. Well, her boyfriend or husband
• 3:16:50
  got cursed by Anton Levay, and he said that you need to stop
• 3:16:53
  hanging out with him because in less than a year he's going to
• 3:16:56
  die in a horrible car crash. And if you're hanging out with
• 3:16:59
  him, it's going to hit you too. Well, less than a year later, a
• 3:17:04
  car crash occurs and they're both killed.
• 3:17:07
  You know that. You can't say that Levay didn't
• 3:17:09
  warn her that it was going to happen, but that's true story.
• 3:17:14
  You can actually look that up. That's the legend of how Jane
• 3:17:18
  Mansfield died and is Anton Lavey, who supposedly put the
• 3:17:21
  curse on her boyfriend. Or whatever he was hated in the
• 3:17:25
  accident. I don't know the details, but I
• 3:17:28
  want to say, what I want to say is that there it was.
• 3:17:32
  I can't even remember, but I want to say yeah, something came
• 3:17:35
  through the windshield and hit them in, hit them both in the
• 3:17:39
  head and it was a bloody mess, let's put it that way.
• 3:17:44
  That's rough, man. That's rough.
• 3:17:47
  As for the Dalmatian, the Dalmatian is can I go ahead and
• 3:17:53
  share my screen, Brett? Sure you can, Guy.
• 3:17:57
  All right, let's. Do do do.
• 3:17:59
  I'm gonna. Share my screen with everybody.
• 3:18:02
  Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's magic and.
• 3:18:11
  Sharing the Dalmatian, The origins of this breed can be
• 3:18:14
  traced back to present day Croatia and its historical
• 3:18:17
  region of Dalmatia. It is thought that early
• 3:18:22
  ancestors of the breed were certain breeds of pointers and
• 3:18:25
  spotted Great Dane. Today it is a popular pet and
• 3:18:30
  many enthusiasts enter Dalmatians into cannon club
• 3:18:33
  competitions. So the suggested origins of the
• 3:18:38
  breed What was Darth? What was the argument about?
• 3:18:42
  Well, it's what's his What's his name?
• 3:18:45
  His name is Iron Chariot. He's making the claim that Tom
• 3:18:48
  Mesha's evolved from Old English sheepdog, but this article is
• 3:18:54
  making the claim it evolved from the The Great Dane, which is
• 3:18:57
  also false from Pointers and Spotted Great Danes.
• 3:19:02
  Spotted Great Danes. Which both are short hair
• 3:19:05
  breeds. I am definitely more pointer.
• 3:19:08
  I mean you can see from picture of the pointer that I have up
• 3:19:12
  right next to the picture of the Dalmatian, very similar body
• 3:19:16
  type, very similar there and spotted Great Dane.
• 3:19:20
  Obviously this is not something that's around anymore.
• 3:19:24
  Great Danes are massive, huge animals and we still have Great
• 3:19:28
  Danes no but a a a breed specific Spotted Yeah yeah they
• 3:19:38
  yeah. Good see it says spotted.
• 3:19:40
  Great game. Yeah, this one.
• 3:19:44
  Yeah. There's a specific yeah, yeah,
• 3:19:46
  you're right. You're right.
• 3:19:47
  There is black and white spotted ones.
• 3:19:49
  So it's possible, but I don't know.
• 3:19:52
  I I don't know. But this is Wikipedia.
• 3:19:54
  People want to look it up. That's what Wikipedia says, and
• 3:19:59
  it was just an easy reference point.
• 3:20:01
  We can look the street mysterious DNA.
• 3:20:05
  This is from the Kennel Club and you can look this look off,
• 3:20:12
  yeah. I don't know why Raging
• 3:20:15
  continues to say. Oh you guys are scared and all
• 3:20:18
  that miss and mod, you've been watching me for the last couple
• 3:20:21
  of years so this seem like it bothers me a damn bit bringing
• 3:20:24
  somebody in here to act like a full on retard.
• 3:20:28
  That's why I was like, why? You know why not 'cause he's.
• 3:20:31
  Because my buddy Lucifer is sick if missing mob, If you're not
• 3:20:35
  feeling well and you got some asshole out there giving you
• 3:20:38
  some shit and you've got a few fans yourself and you say, Brad,
• 3:20:42
  I'd appreciate it if you don't bring that fucking retard in
• 3:20:44
  here. I'm going to, I'm going to do as
• 3:20:47
  you ask, 'cause I can't. I agree, I agree.
• 3:20:50
  I you were just asking, so I was just telling you why.
• 3:20:53
  And be personal. I don't know what I mean that if
• 3:20:56
  you're going to be an asshole all over the place and it's
• 3:20:59
  clear he's nothing but more than asshole, why should that person
• 3:21:02
  be given a platform? Yeah, you're right.
• 3:21:05
  I I didn't realize what what was going on though that's that was
• 3:21:08
  my only thing. I didn't.
• 3:21:10
  I didn't know the details. He got all butt hurt because you
• 3:21:15
  know, Brett didn't denounce to me and I own live stream podcast
• 3:21:20
  you know, about my past history and the involvement of National
• 3:21:25
  Socialism which is Nazism in Satanism.
• 3:21:28
  He he got all butthurt and about it and he decided that he was
• 3:21:34
  going to make a live stream where he was trashing everybody
• 3:21:37
  and I hit him with copyright and he got all butthurt about that.
• 3:21:41
  And now he, you know, I've offered to tell him, you know,
• 3:21:45
  face to face in person, and he still doesn't want to do
• 3:21:48
  anything. Well, Raging has also had a
• 3:21:52
  history. He has seen me do show after
• 3:21:55
  show after show. And whether I agree with
• 3:21:58
  somebody or not, I will usually participate.
• 3:22:01
  I'll listen to why people think the way they do.
• 3:22:03
  I mean one of the one of the big things for me, one of the
• 3:22:07
  mentally stimulating things. I like to know why people think
• 3:22:10
  the way they do. I wonder why it is people chose
• 3:22:13
  this in their life for that. This is a it's humanity's
• 3:22:17
  interesting, fascinating for me. You know that missing mod, Fuck.
• 3:22:21
  I'll have any wild animal up in here.
• 3:22:23
  Well. A missing missing chariot.
• 3:22:27
  He's talking a lot of a lot of, you know, a lot of dog talk over
• 3:22:31
  in the chat. But he doesn't want to jump in.
• 3:22:32
  He's saying Great Danes is a transitional species.
• 3:22:35
  Well, you do. You want to bet on that?
• 3:22:38
  You want to bet $1,000,000. It's not.
• 3:22:40
  I'll bet $1,000,000 Iron Chariot.
• 3:22:43
  Why don't you come in, iron chariot?
• 3:22:45
  But I'll sit back, keep quiet, and let you and Mr. Bubbles have
• 3:22:48
  at it. You got $1,000,000.
• 3:22:53
  Well, I'm gonna. I don't.
• 3:22:54
  But I will. I want to.
• 3:22:55
  Bet $1,000,000. I would have been.
• 3:22:57
  Fine with this fucking party though, you don't have let Let's
• 3:23:01
  keep it to something that you actually have and can actually
• 3:23:03
  pay out. Let's actually make the bet
• 3:23:05
  something substantial. Why don't you put your car
• 3:23:08
  online? You know 5.
• 3:23:10
  Bucks. I'll sell.
• 3:23:11
  I'll sell. I'll sell everything and get a,
• 3:23:13
  you know, 1/4 of $1,000,000. How about you won't?
• 3:23:16
  You know you won't. I got I got some pretty Put your
• 3:23:19
  car. Even if.
• 3:23:21
  Even if, even if you manage to be able to say that the fucking
• 3:23:25
  dog came from this type of dog or this dog, where's the
• 3:23:28
  evolution in that? It's still a fucking dog.
• 3:23:31
  You know, this isn't. If you were to tell me the thing
• 3:23:34
  originally was a fucking butterfly, then you've got my
• 3:23:37
  attention. You get me excited.
• 3:23:38
  I'll pour out the balloons and everything.
• 3:23:40
  What is the thing? The dog you'll never get like a
• 3:23:44
  Chihuahua out of a Dalmatia or a or a German Shepherd out of, you
• 3:23:48
  know, a pug. That's never going to happen.
• 3:23:51
  That's because Chihuahuas are hung like a fucking gerbil.
• 3:23:54
  They couldn't do anything even if they wanted to.
• 3:23:58
  But I ain't. I ain't keep sucking all of
• 3:24:00
  that, Bo. She is, but doesn't want to show
• 3:24:02
  up. Come on, put up her.
• 3:24:04
  Shut up, Iron Chariot. I want to bet $1,000,000.
• 3:24:06
  I want to see a transitional fossil for something crazy.
• 3:24:09
  I want to see like a a fucking shrew turning into a monkey.
• 3:24:14
  A tree shrew turned into a monkey.
• 3:24:16
  That's what I'd like to see. I think he's.
• 3:24:18
  Upset because he's like a Mark Reed fan and I made this same
• 3:24:21
  bet with Mark Reed. And Mark Reed owes me
• 3:24:24
  $1,000,000. Well, if you ever get even half
• 3:24:28
  of that shit, I need a loan. I need a new fucking air
• 3:24:31
  condition. They just got to pay up.
• 3:24:36
  I I gave you that, I'll give you that money.
• 3:24:38
  Brett, Miss. And Mod, you're going to have to
• 3:24:40
  remember to use the restroom before coming into my shows,
• 3:24:43
  because you know I'm going to make you piss yourself if you
• 3:24:45
  stick around too long. Yeah, you crack me up most of
• 3:24:50
  the time. He says I watched too much
• 3:24:55
  Pokémon. Did I say something that sounded
• 3:24:58
  Pikachuish? Oh, I think he's referencing
• 3:25:02
  like also like on some other channel.
• 3:25:05
  And I was telling how these other people believed in Pokémon
• 3:25:08
  evolution because they couldn't provide transitionals.
• 3:25:11
  They basically believe, you know, one species of a dog just
• 3:25:17
  jumps to another without a transitional.
• 3:25:19
  So they would literally believe a pug gave birth to a, you know,
• 3:25:23
  a Dalmatia. How?
• 3:25:26
  How can anybody compare like poking on to real life, though
• 3:25:30
  That's what I always. Ask Yeah, I don't know where
• 3:25:32
  Pokémon came in. It's what they're proposing.
• 3:25:35
  You ever heard of punctuated equilibrium?
• 3:25:39
  This is the theory of a punctuative equilibrium.
• 3:25:42
  There are no transitionals. It's just like a pug just
• 3:25:46
  magically gives birth to a a dalmatia.
• 3:25:52
  How? I'm not even going to say
• 3:25:54
  anything. That's just stupidity Incarnate.
• 3:25:56
  It's theory of evolution for you.
• 3:26:01
  That's that's not even evolution.
• 3:26:03
  It it was one. It was one of the prose theories
• 3:26:06
  that they of course it they don't teach you because it's
• 3:26:08
  flat out silly, but it was it was a proposed theory for
• 3:26:11
  evolution that would be just like going to the whole Pokémon
• 3:26:18
  thing. That would be just like how you
• 3:26:20
  can evolve your Pokémon with a rock and force them to evolve
• 3:26:24
  and change and like a Pikachu going to a riot shoe or
• 3:26:29
  something like that. Exactly.
• 3:26:31
  And and that's why I call it Pokémon evolution.
• 3:26:33
  What do you say about this iron chair tier?
• 3:26:36
  Does this person ever get on webcam, by the way, 'cause I got
• 3:26:39
  an offer for them, a proposal proposition they just can't
• 3:26:42
  refuse. Is this part You ever seen this
• 3:26:45
  person on camera or are they just a keyboard commando?
• 3:26:48
  Keywords Commando for Mark Reid. They're they're a Mark Reid
• 3:26:52
  fanboy. Iron Tier or charity or whatever
• 3:26:55
  fucking name is. Would you be interested in
• 3:26:57
  having an evolution debate with Ken Tobin?
• 3:27:00
  He's always asking me to find new people for him to spank and
• 3:27:04
  shit. Would you be interested in being
• 3:27:05
  his victim? Tell me about it.
• 3:27:09
  Reid Just like I get on webcam. Well, I'm giving him the chance
• 3:27:14
  to win $1,000,000 to back up his bullshit.
• 3:27:18
  I would. I would love raise your.
• 3:27:19
  Name $1,000,000. Bro, I'd.
• 3:27:22
  Love I love you to death, but you you you don't have
• 3:27:25
  $1,000,000 so OK, something that you actually you have up.
• 3:27:29
  OK. A better.
• 3:27:30
  Sausage. Pizza or something better.
• 3:27:32
  Sausage pizza. I like fucking pizza once, you
• 3:27:35
  a. Quarter of $1,000,000.
• 3:27:38
  Hell yeah. Do you have 1/4 of a million?
• 3:27:42
  I'll sell everything to get that.
• 3:27:43
  You know the rest of the money. Is there any atheists out there
• 3:27:47
  who would like to debate one-on-one?
• 3:27:49
  With Kent Hovind, I'd be the moderator and I sit back, drink
• 3:27:53
  my coffee and make sure people don't kill each other or evolve
• 3:27:56
  suddenly. No, he's a he's a proud keyboard
• 3:28:00
  commando. I don't think he's going to do
• 3:28:01
  it. That sucks.
• 3:28:04
  Well, that sounds to me like he's not counting.
• 3:28:07
  He's a Pussycat. I mean, hey, come on.
• 3:28:08
  Him and I had a great conversation and I got him to
• 3:28:11
  say that it's a possibility that God lied.
• 3:28:15
  Oh, by the way, I did talk to Kent and stuff like that, and I
• 3:28:18
  asked him if he enjoyed himself. He said that.
• 3:28:21
  He said it was interesting and he said you're a pretty nice guy
• 3:28:24
  and stuff for a Satanist, so he he respected you.
• 3:28:29
  Well, that's cool. That's cool.
• 3:28:31
  I mean it it was definitely an interesting conversation.
• 3:28:35
  Definitely, yeah. I I didn't have a bad time.
• 3:28:38
  I enjoyed myself. Well we got to find some other
• 3:28:43
  non believers. I'd have raging atheist take on
• 3:28:46
  Kent but I don't want to see raging have one of those crybaby
• 3:28:49
  moments like you did with Matt Powell.
• 3:28:51
  Oh damn, it was negative. What that shit lose over that
• 3:28:57
  shit ASMR says Brett. I'm not a raging Atheist fan
• 3:29:01
  either but he's saying he had a heart attack recently.
• 3:29:04
  He seems sincere. I didn't know that.
• 3:29:06
  Well, Raging, even though I've been being rough on you, if you
• 3:29:09
  had a heart attack, I hope that your health and proves you know
• 3:29:13
  we're dicking with you. I don't want to see you die.
• 3:29:16
  And this is another reason why, you know, we shouldn't stress
• 3:29:19
  him out or anything and bring him on because him and I got on
• 3:29:23
  you. You know, I'd probably just
• 3:29:24
  stress him out because he could possibly break down him in here
• 3:29:29
  and then he would have another heart attack on camera.
• 3:29:31
  I don't want to see that. That's true.
• 3:29:33
  That's true. If he would have come in here
• 3:29:35
  and got all aggressive and shit and had a heart attack, I
• 3:29:37
  wouldn't have been able to live with myself.
• 3:29:39
  I'm like, fuck, I bring an atheist in here and he dies on
• 3:29:42
  me. I couldn't do that and I have
• 3:29:44
  fucking nightmares forever. Yeah, see?
• 3:29:51
  That would definitely make the show interesting.
• 3:29:54
  Oh yeah, come on, that's cold. I'm just being honest.
• 3:30:00
  I mean, people would, you know, people like seeing that kind of
• 3:30:03
  stuff, Not, not. Hopefully he would live, you
• 3:30:06
  know. Listen, Ma's like bring up 10
• 3:30:08
  atheists. I don't want to see them all die
• 3:30:10
  like Donald's. Yeah.
• 3:30:11
  No, I don't want to see that happen.
• 3:30:14
  I'm not saying I've seen enough death that I don't want to be
• 3:30:18
  seeing that on the air. I've seen enough death in
• 3:30:20
  person. That's that's that's rough,
• 3:30:27
  yeah. Raging says he's more accepting
• 3:30:32
  rage. I seen the comments and the
• 3:30:34
  dialogue between you and Mr. Lucifer it.
• 3:30:37
  Was Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, you're fucking lying
• 3:30:40
  through your fucking ass, he said.
• 3:30:43
  He can go see that you're alive. He said, well, that was earlier,
• 3:30:48
  though I don't know if the because the topics change.
• 3:30:51
  Iron Chariot, come on in. You've got to keep talking on
• 3:30:54
  that smack, my man. Yeah, I mean.
• 3:30:56
  Well, come in here and tell us how a fucking slugfish turns
• 3:30:59
  into a domination or whatever the hell that is.
• 3:31:01
  Come on in. He's he's just he's just simply
• 3:31:03
  making the claim that the the the the spotted Dane is a
• 3:31:08
  transitional from Gray wolf to Dalmatia.
• 3:31:12
  Just because you read it on Wikipedia, that's not true.
• 3:31:16
  If they actually done the genetic testing for this and
• 3:31:19
  thought that, yeah, like I said, that's just was the easiest
• 3:31:22
  thing for me to pull up and you can see that I had no part in
• 3:31:27
  that. That's just what it pulled up
• 3:31:29
  and it said it was a suggestion of where they came from.
• 3:31:33
  Well, you. You.
• 3:31:33
  Did look it up on Wikipedia. And Wikipedia is like, yeah, I'm
• 3:31:40
  not trying to be hateful, but did you ever hear what Wikipedia
• 3:31:44
  did to Neil deGrasse Tyson a while back?
• 3:31:46
  Lucifer. No, I didn't.
• 3:31:51
  Well, Neil deGrasse Tyson, He's always had this thing where he
• 3:31:54
  doesn't want to be categorized like as an atheist.
• 3:31:58
  And the atheist, they got a hold of Wikipedia and they wrote out
• 3:32:01
  a whole profile that he's godless and an atheist.
• 3:32:05
  So he felt so fucking triggered by that.
• 3:32:08
  He ended up going on this show called Big Think and saying I'm
• 3:32:11
  not a fucking atheist. If I'm a est of anything, I'm a
• 3:32:14
  scientist. You've never seen that before.
• 3:32:18
  No. Oh, the atheist turned on his
• 3:32:20
  ass so quickly. They used to love him when they
• 3:32:23
  thought he was an atheist. Are you OK over there?
• 3:32:25
  Loose tree? Sound like you're going to poop
• 3:32:27
  or something. No, I'm fine.
• 3:32:29
  I'm fine. All right, all right.
• 3:32:32
  One more. I keep hearing you go.
• 3:32:34
  You're grunting and stuff like you're in pain.
• 3:32:36
  Are you sure you're OK? I was stretching it and popping
• 3:32:40
  my fingers. All right.
• 3:32:42
  I was like, oh shit, he keeps that up.
• 3:32:44
  Something's going to come out. Sorry, I thought.
• 3:32:49
  I muted my mic. Oh, good.
• 3:32:53
  Sorry to put you on the spot, missus.
• 3:32:55
  Maude, you got any more questions?
• 3:32:57
  You've been in the Death and destruction.
• 3:33:00
  Anything else? I haven't heard you say anything
• 3:33:02
  about lust spells. What's that all about?
• 3:33:06
  Well, it's just a a certain area that I'm interested in really,
• 3:33:09
  but I I like hearing about all of it.
• 3:33:12
  But yeah, I've been on here for a while, so I got to get out of
• 3:33:15
  here soon. OK, I got to ask you about
• 3:33:19
  something because I've heard you mentioned les spells there.
• 3:33:22
  Lucifer. Can this work on somebody that
• 3:33:24
  is actually committed to a partner?
• 3:33:28
  And I'm not saying I want to do it, I'm just saying is that
• 3:33:30
  possible? Yeah, I mean it.
• 3:33:34
  It can work at all. Depends on what you want to have
• 3:33:37
  done or how far you want to take it.
• 3:33:40
  I've had mild success with LUST in the past.
• 3:33:44
  It's not been my main field of focus, but I've used them once
• 3:33:48
  or twice and I've had some mild success with them.
• 3:33:52
  Would you? Use it for on your, on you, for
• 3:33:55
  yourself, or on someone else, or.
• 3:33:59
  Well, sometimes they're useful for figuring out.
• 3:34:02
  Like, say, all right, there's the one situation where I had a
• 3:34:05
  friend's girlfriend making an advance on me, and it was an
• 3:34:10
  unsolicited advance and I wanted to do something.
• 3:34:13
  But at the same time I was respecting my friend.
• 3:34:17
  And so I was like, OK, I'm not going to do anything right now.
• 3:34:21
  And I went back home and me and my wife at the time, we we did a
• 3:34:26
  lost spell because I told her about it and we did a lost
• 3:34:29
  spell. And the next day we got us a
• 3:34:31
  solution on the situation. So I'm not going to go into the
• 3:34:36
  graphic details of what all the lust spell involved, but yes,
• 3:34:41
  both of us were, you know, working with each other on it
• 3:34:44
  and we raised up enough energy and we got a solution on the
• 3:34:49
  situation the next day. That was one of my more
• 3:34:54
  successful lust spells. And most of the time with lust,
• 3:35:02
  I would say honestly lust is very much so more about self
• 3:35:07
  gratification than actually causing something outside of
• 3:35:11
  your immediate social environment.
• 3:35:14
  We have spells were or rituals should say not so much spells
• 3:35:19
  where we, you know, perform sexual acts.
• 3:35:23
  During the ritual there is a black mass where the altar and
• 3:35:28
  the priest have sex with each other and then the semen is
• 3:35:31
  harvested from the altar. When I say harvested from the
• 3:35:35
  altar I mean the altar maiden and it's harvested literally
• 3:35:39
  from her womb to create what we call the elixir of life and that
• 3:35:46
  would be more along the true lines of lust most of the rest
• 3:35:51
  of the lust spells out there. I would say this is probably one
• 3:35:55
  of the main fields where it's mostly psychodrama.
• 3:35:59
  Well, I think. Rhett Rhett's bringing up
• 3:36:02
  something. I took up a bet and checked
• 3:36:06
  because he doesn't want to come up here, so I just play and have
• 3:36:10
  him. What do we got here, Lassie?
• 3:36:15
  Turned into what you you see, this is always the same damn
• 3:36:22
  deal with these evolutionists always wanting to show cartoons
• 3:36:26
  and fucking drawings and stuff. Nobody, ever, actually.
• 3:36:29
  Did the did the auto come through?
• 3:36:32
  It looks like the clip went out. There you go, it's back.
• 3:36:35
  I see a Dalmatian. Yeah, let let me play it again.
• 3:36:38
  Shoot, let's get too far all. Right.
• 3:36:46
  Is there supposed to? Be sound.
• 3:36:55
  Dude, you should have. Fucking broke.
• 3:36:57
  No. Your shit's broke.
• 3:36:59
  Yeah, there's enough sound. All right, then.
• 3:37:01
  Here I just tell. Us.
• 3:37:02
  What? The deal is what?
• 3:37:03
  Fucked another dog and turned it into a Dalmatian?
• 3:37:07
  What do we got here? No here I'll post a link and you
• 3:37:10
  share your screen. Well, you sure?
• 3:37:13
  You wanna do that? I fucking hate doing this shit.
• 3:37:16
  All right. And you're not going to get any
• 3:37:18
  sound from my screens. It's just going to show the
• 3:37:21
  screen full screen. What are you?
• 3:37:23
  I'm trying to get this. Down because alls it is, is a
• 3:37:26
  bunch of fucking pictures anyway, what is what?
• 3:37:28
  Are we worrying about what fuck to Dalmate?
• 3:37:31
  What fuck to create a Dalmatian anyways?
• 3:37:33
  I mean, no, the guy's not, you know, Iron Cherry to tear is.
• 3:37:37
  He's been invited in and he doesn't want to come in?
• 3:37:40
  No. So why even continue with this?
• 3:37:42
  Well, I heard Cherry say he took up the bet the the the Great
• 3:37:46
  Dane is the transitional. And then the video they clearly
• 3:37:49
  tell you the genetic testing reveals that they're not even
• 3:37:52
  related at all. I got a question for you guys.
• 3:37:58
  I've noticed also that evolution became more popular around this
• 3:38:02
  time. You guys have looked into
• 3:38:04
  genetic splicing. Yeah.
• 3:38:09
  What you guys thought about it? Miss And Ma, do you know what
• 3:38:13
  genetic splicing is? No.
• 3:38:16
  It's whenever they basically splice animal cells into another
• 3:38:21
  animal and shit, creating like for instance, they take rats and
• 3:38:26
  they genetically alter them with human DNA, creating fucking ears
• 3:38:30
  on their back. You ever seen that?
• 3:38:34
  Yeah, I have. Actually, that's weird, that one
• 3:38:38
  of the fascinating things, and I even brought this up with Kent.
• 3:38:40
  I said, Kent, do you notice in the last 50 years, since genetic
• 3:38:44
  splicing has become very into the mainstream evolution that
• 3:38:48
  somehow became popular along along with it?
• 3:38:52
  And that, Kent says. You got a good point there,
• 3:38:54
  'cause with genetic splicing you can make it to where they've got
• 3:38:57
  it, to where cows are able to produce a different way they got
• 3:39:01
  it, to where they've created completely different kind of
• 3:39:04
  animals, a mix or a hybrid of it.
• 3:39:07
  It's pretty neat now for some people out there, like Mr.
• 3:39:14
  Dickhead, that we've been talking to out in the comments,
• 3:39:16
  he says. Well, that proves evolution.
• 3:39:18
  Know, that proves that a mind and many minds were required in
• 3:39:22
  order to design that shit. So yeah, I think you guys went
• 3:39:28
  quiet. I guess I'll change the topic
• 3:39:30
  then. That one doesn't work for you
• 3:39:31
  guys. That's boring.
• 3:39:34
  Let me try share it with the subtitles.
• 3:39:36
  Maybe maybe the subtitles will show up.
• 3:39:38
  You just read the subtitles. Yeah, I got to jump off though,
• 3:39:42
  guys, but it's been fun. Thank you so much for having me.
• 3:39:45
  Well, I hope you come back. Yeah, I will.
• 3:39:49
  Next time you guys do a show, I'll see you, bubby.
• 3:39:53
  All right, Oh, Rage says. I thought you were about free
• 3:39:59
  speech. I am about free speech.
• 3:40:01
  But you piss somebody off and they don't want you in the room.
• 3:40:07
  Now you're going to have to work that shit out with Mr. Lucifer.
• 3:40:11
  Now, what kind of friend would I be if I let people come up here
• 3:40:14
  and fucking harass? And it wouldn't be fun no more,
• 3:40:17
  would it? Like I said, give me your
• 3:40:22
  address. We can sort it out face to face.
• 3:40:24
  I'll happily give you my address.
• 3:40:26
  We can sort it out face to face. Wait, what do we got here?
• 3:40:35
  What's this all about? Showing off dogs?
• 3:40:42
  And then you showed Mark Reed. What's that all about?
• 3:40:45
  Did somebody evolve? I didn't notice.
• 3:40:50
  Oh no, I. Had myself muted.
• 3:40:52
  I just realized I'm gonna, I'm gonna read what's in the video.
• 3:40:54
  Since you can't you can't see the can't hear the audio.
• 3:40:58
  It says there is no detectable genetic match between harlequot
• 3:41:05
  great dates and dalmatias there. There is no evolution.
• 3:41:14
  Oof. And that thing just fucks up the
• 3:41:16
  whole screen. So now Iron Chariot has to pay
• 3:41:20
  up $1,000,000 since he took up the bet.
• 3:41:25
  It's rough. Let me put it on here.
• 3:41:29
  There we go. My screen's all fucked up.
• 3:41:32
  I don't know what the hell the deal is with that.
• 3:41:36
  I'm only seeing half of our screen now.
• 3:41:40
  They look right for you guys. Let me hit zoom, see if There we
• 3:41:43
  go. That fixed it.
• 3:41:45
  Oh, anything else in you guys mind or are you done for
• 3:41:49
  tonight? Anything that's aside?
• 3:41:54
  From that. I'm sorry.
• 3:41:56
  I've been real fucking tired. I didn't sleep last night, and
• 3:41:59
  Mr. Lucifer is sick, so that's where we're at.
• 3:42:03
  Hopefully Friday will be better. All right.
• 3:42:08
  Lucifer, Are you still alive over there?
• 3:42:10
  Think. We lost them.
• 3:42:13
  No, I forgot that I was muted. Yeah, it happens to me too.
• 3:42:19
  Here, I thought our demons finally claimed to solve his
• 3:42:22
  payment. All right, we're going to.
• 3:42:26
  We're going to let loose. Forget him some sleep.
• 3:42:28
  I'll do something Friday, 7:00 PM.
• 3:42:31
  And loose for if you decide to do anything throughout the week,
• 3:42:34
  you let me know and. Well, I'm going to try to do my
• 3:42:37
  show tomorrow. People are more than welcome to
• 3:42:40
  come on, you know, So yeah. You're going to be out for it,
• 3:42:46
  man. You're still sounding rough.
• 3:42:49
  I'm going to try. I made it tonight, so we'll see.
• 3:42:52
  We'll see. All right.
• 3:42:55
  Well, I guess I'll shut her down unless you guys got something on
• 3:42:58
  your mind. All right, all right.
• 3:43:03
  I'm good. Can I go with me too?
• 3:43:08
  Shut her down.