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S2 E10: Our Favorite Obi-Wan Moments from the Kenobi Series · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  It's most things Kenobi an. Elegant.
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  Podcast. For a more civilized fandom.
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  Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of Most Things Kenobi, a
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  podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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  I am your host, Leanne. And I'm your host, Lauren.
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  And this week we are talking about Obi Wan Kenobi in every
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  sense, because we're talking about Obi Wan in the Obi Wan
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  Kenobi series. Honestly, I'm so ready.
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  I feel like we've been away from Obi Wan for a long time,
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  especially since we're doing every other week now.
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  So it's been like months since we've talked about Obi Wan.
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  Too damn long, but we're back. Thank God.
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  Really having to go through and watch clips of the Kenobi series
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  again really, really made me love it all over again.
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  Like, there are some things that I remember loving and then I
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  rewatched them and I was like, oh, this is so good.
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  Why do people think that this is a bad show?
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  I don't understand. They're allowed to.
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  They're allowed. They're entitled to their
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  opinion. They're allowed to dislike it.
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  But like, I really like this show.
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  Yeah, I think maybe because you're just watching clips of
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  it, maybe because they're like I, I've rewatched the whole
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  thing in entirety now maybe two more times, and I like it less
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  each time. I.
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  Like it less each time. I do I like.
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  How interesting. I mean like Ewan is amazing and
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  the stuff that's good I feel like is so fucking good and the
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  stuff that's bad makes my cringe like factor go off real hard
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  and. There are some things that are a
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  little cringy. I will go with you on that,
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  yeah. Yeah, some of the bad guys are
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  not scary. No, no, I mean, when Vader's in
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  the show, who is going to top that, honestly?
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  And like he is like Oh my God the stuff with Vader and Obi
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  Wan. It's just so good.
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  Yes, thank God. And Bale, Oh my God, everything
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  with Bale. And that's so.
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  True, Yeah. I mean, there are some really
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  top notch things and like you said, some some cringy thing.
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  They're of the cringy moments. I can name like 3 off the top of
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  my head, you know. So there are, there are those.
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  It's in there. But I think that unlike some
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  other stuff in Star Wars that might be a little cringy, like
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  there's enough, I feel like counterbalance that's good to
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  make me want to keep watching the show and like come back to
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  the show because the stuff that's.
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  Good. Isn't that kind of All Star Wars
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  or something? Something cringy?
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  Yeah, that's we gotta keep our perspective here.
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  Good point, that's a really good point.
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  Even the original trilogy, there's plenty of stuff where
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  like you might after you've seen it skip skip on by it.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true.
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  Well, we're, we're talking about our favorite moments that made
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  us love Obi Wan Kenobi all over again as a Star Wars character,
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  as our favorite character. And we have not talked about it
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  yet. So I'm very curious to see what
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  you say. Because what I tried to do going
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  into this was pick something that I thought we wouldn't each
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  pick so that we would have something to talk about.
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  Because honestly, you and I love Obi Wan pretty equally.
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  Yeah. So I tried to pick something
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  that was not the most obvious thing, but not the most subtle
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  thing either, just just so we wouldn't have any overlap.
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  Interesting because I I did like my favorite in a runner up which
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  I assumed we would have overlap in that.
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  And then I have like quote honorable mentions which are
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  like those little Nuggets where I was like, ah, yes, yeah.
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  I mean I. I, I, I told you, the only thing
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  I said to her in a text last night was I had like a moment.
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  It is my favorite Obi Wan moment in the series, but I can't speak
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  on it for an entire episode. So I chose something else.
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  Now if we were talking about our favorite Vader moments in this
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  episode, Oh my God, I'd be here for a week.
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  I fucking forgot how fabulous all of that was it.
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  Is so good. The stuff on Mapuzzo between
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  them. I watched it like three times.
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  It's so good, that whole interaction, just to make sure,
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  and it does have to do with my moment that I'm going to talk
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  about. In this episode, oh great, you
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  know it made me realize how much I miss Netflix Party when you
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  and I used to watch Clone Wars episodes together.
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  But this is long before we had a podcast.
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  This was just our friendship and we would watch this.
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  Was like 20/17/2018 yeah when this shit existed.
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  It doesn't even exist anymore because corporations got
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  greedier and we would. We would like rewind stuff so
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  much we'd break the interface and have.
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  To have to restart it because we were that extra.
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  It's AI. Guess it's a good thing it
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  doesn't exist for the Kenobi series or we'd have broken the
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  Internet. We would have never got through
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  any of the episodes because we'd just still be rewinding to this
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  day. OK.
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  So do you want to say like your top moment, how do you want to
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  do it well? I'll talk about my favorite
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  moment because I can't talk about it all episodes, so I'll
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  just mention it here. And why like, like, it's not an
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  episode long discussion, really. But honest to God, I rewatched
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  it and I was like, yeah, I, I remember seeing this moment the
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  first time in the series, having an emotional reaction to it and
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  realizing like, This is why I like this man so much.
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  It's very simple. And it's very early in the
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  series. It's when he's working at that
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  meat shop, whatever the fuck that is, and he slices off a
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  piece of meat and wraps it and keeps it for his eopi and he
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  does it after every shift. And this is the thing about Obi
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  Wan Kenobi, right? He cares about creatures, he
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  cares about everyone. He's a kind person, he has a
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  full heart. He takes others into
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  consideration in everything he does.
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  And that is just such a simple detail that they added that I
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  thought was so appropriate because he's taking care of
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  another creature yet again. And we've seen this countless
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  times of him being kind to a creature, an animal or whatever
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  byproduct of the two. He's kind to children, he's kind
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  to other races, other humans, other.
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  He's just a kind hearted human. And I just love that little
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  moment. I thought it was a nice touch.
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  If we're talking about how it relates back to why we like Obi
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  Wan in the 1st place, I think it's a prime example of why I
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  like Obi Wan in the 1st place is because he's just truly kind.
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  I mean, there isn't. He's going to slice you in half
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  if he has to. Absolutely.
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  But, you know, not a cinnamon roll, but he's going to save
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  that little tiny piece of meat and wrap it up and bring it for
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  his little horse because he's a nice guy.
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  Even in the midst of like his own pain and you know, he's in
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  this terrible place mentally, emotionally at this time and he
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  still takes the extra time to care for the animal and be kind
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  to. Yeah, it's just a, it's just a
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  little. No, it's a little thing.
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  It's just a little moment, but I think it's a larger example of
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  the kind of person he is, and I love that.
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  But I also can't speak a whole episode on this one moment.
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  So just I had to. I had to add that though.
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  I like that too. And in that scene, there's
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  actually a lot going on because he takes a little extra for
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  himself. And then there's the the other
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  guy who's not getting paid the full amount and Obi Wan wants to
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  speak up. You see him about to speak up
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  and then he changes his mind and.
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  And we know why. Because this bitch lived through
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  Cadaver. He's not about to make the same
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  mistake again. He learned.
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  I know God. Even though it's in him, he
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  wants to help, he wants to say something, he wants to stick up
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  for the little guy, he wants to stick up for injustice.
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  But sometimes you're in a position where you just can't.
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  It's so symbolic to to see this person who always stood up for
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  somebody to have to crush like they have been crushed so much
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  that their instinct is now to second guess that.
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  Isn't that a shame? That's a shame.
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  It's really telling of where he is mentally and emotionally
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  after what happened on Mustafar. Yeah.
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  I wish like, oh, I really wish they had made more or any
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  references to Clone Wars in in this series because there's so
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  much for the character. Even like, Can you imagine in
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  his little like dream sequence if they had thrown in a flash of
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  live action Zygeria? Godly awesome.
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  Don't tease me with that. Oh my God.
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  It would have been just a snippet and even like they could
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  have thrown in, the lawless people would have lost their
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  fucking minds. Gone ape shit would have been
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  insane. Oh well.
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  And it would have. Been nice things it.
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  Would have been such a nice reward too to people who had
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  watched Clone Wars and like grown up with it to to keep
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  loving Star Wars. I don't know, I just feel like
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  they need to hire us to tie their loose ends together.
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  This is the theme of 2025, I guess.
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  Yeah, someday. Maybe.
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  Well, I I love that moment. It's classic Obi Wan.
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  It's just a little mini mini moment.
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  Do you have a bigger one? Do you have?
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  What is your main? One, my main one is kind of
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  obvious. I think it's it's from the very
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  end when he's fighting Vader and he blasts the basically from the
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  moment he like blasts all the rocks off of himself and jumps
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  up out of the the hole he's fallen into.
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  And then he fights Vader with this kind of renewed focus.
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  Like he was already ready when he said I will do what I must.
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  That was pretty special. Sorry, you're phrasing Yes, but
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  then. The thing I love about the
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  sequence that from there moving forward, it's so Obi Wan in a
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  totally different way than like your example, his ability to
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  read an opponent and use their weaknesses against them
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  instinctively. It's amazing.
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  Like he he knows how Anakin fights and Obi Wan is proficient
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  in most forms he just chooses to use what is it form 3?
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  I can never remember the forms. Whatever expert Ataru or
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  whatever it is, Soreisu, I think that's Obi Wan's thing.
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  But he can fight in Anakin's style as well.
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  So he literally, you see him using Anakin's moves against
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  him. He does the windmill behind the
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  back and all. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. So yeah, he doesn't he switch
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  hands at one point. Yes, he.
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  Does and he does like a double hand with a reverse grip which I
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  have a theory that Ahsoka learned her reverse grip from
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  Obi Wan. You never see Anakin use it.
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  You do see Obi Wan use it. So that's a.
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  Fantastic theory and A and a smart one.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Realistic, yeah. You've seen it only with Obi Wan
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  when he has either 2 lightsabers or in the Kenobi series he uses
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  a lot of reverse grip you never see Anakin use.
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  Reverse group. No, no, no, no.
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  He's a he's very aggressive. Yeah, like straight on, head on.
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  And the reverse grip is a lot of like the shoto blade is the
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  defense, right? So like it makes sense that Obi
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  Wan would know how to use that. But any who's he also uses all
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  the racks, right? He picks them all up and smashes
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  Anakin. And it kind of like hit me this
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  time watching it that it yes, it's weakening Anakin, but it's
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  also enraging him. And when Anakin is angry, he
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  loses focus. Always.
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  Gets sloppy. He's always been sloppy when he
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  loses focus. Exactly.
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  So he's not only being super powerful, which is incredibly
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  sexy, but he's also using like he's being intelligent, also
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  like using Anakin's weaknesses against him.
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  And it's a. Thing about Obi Wan is his
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  intelligence. That is.
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  Pretty sexy. It's admirable.
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  Yeah. It's if you were an onlooker, an
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  innocent bystander, and you didn't know any better, you
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  would know that this guy is intelligent by the way that he
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  #1 sizes up an opponent, opponent #2 how he strategizes
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  his way through the fight. I mean, conserving energy where
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  is necessary, deflecting, doing the defensive where it's
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  necessary, offensive where necessary.
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  And you would think this guy is a seasoned warrior.
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  And his intelligence is what makes him very threatening
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  because intelligent people, intelligent fighters will say
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  are not in your face. Anakin style was in your face.
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  He's tall, he's broad, he has the eye, you know, the eye
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  contact. He never backed down.
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  He's right up in it in your face.
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  And he will overpower you. But then the person who's more
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  subtle and uses a more intelligent way of fighting,
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  it's less predictable and you can't read them as well as they
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  can read you. And I find that to be it's like
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  the Thrawn effect. Thrawn is always thinking and
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  he's really intelligent and he's scary as fuck because of it.
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  But he also has like that imposing his poise is scary.
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  Just his. Reserve is so, so reserved that
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  it's terrifying. But you know, it's in the same
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  line as like Obi Wan. He's intelligent and you can't,
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  you can't fuck with that because it's just not possible.
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  But he will fuck with you and that's awesome.
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  He's hot. It's so cool too because he he's
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  also getting like his feet knocked out from under him at
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  the beginning of the fight. Vader hits him with with racks
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  also and it's a really good example of how Obi Wan doesn't
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  let his emotions completely conquer him.
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  And that's what the whole show is about right?
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  Because his emotions have overwhelmed him.
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  He is defeated by it and then the ending is him releasing
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  himself from that. But that that's also condensed
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  down in that fight because he does a great job in the
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  beginning of the fight. He's not getting overwhelmed.
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  And then he literally gets crushed with rocks.
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  You know, like we've, we've talked about when we did our
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  whole episode just about this fight.
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  It's the symbol of him literally being crushed under the weight
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  of everything. Yes.
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  And even in that moment, even though he's like literally under
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  a pile of boulders, it doesn't consume him.
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  He still overcomes it, just as he overcomes his emotion.
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  Not that he's not emotional, but he doesn't let it get in the way
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  of what needs to be done, which is just.
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  If only I could be that way. I was just sitting here thinking
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  like, damn it, he's a good example of what I wish I could
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  do every single day and fail miserably at.
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  Controlling your emotions is really hard.
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  Yeah, it is. It's really hard, and that's the
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  sign of an enlightened person is someone who can.
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  Yeah damn Obi Wan is so good I. Know I love him so much.
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  I love him, God. Did you have a runner up?
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  Oh yeah, so honest to God, I could talk for like years on end
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  about his very last scene with Leia where he talks about her
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  mom and dad. Yes, Oh my God.
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  It goes back to the kindness factor he levels with her,
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  literally down to her level and gives her the truth about her
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  parents, you know, in a way that she can handle.
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  But while I could, that is obviously one of my favorite
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  moments, but I'm going to go with something a little
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  different. It made me real.
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  I really fucking admire Obi Wan Kenobi.
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  So my main moment is when they're on.
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  OK, so him and the woman and Leia, who's what's her
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  character's name again? Tala.
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  Tala. I was going to say not that, but
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  so it's it's him, Tala and Leia and they're hiding and Vader is
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  going to come down the street. Right.
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  Fucking iconic. It's so fucking iconic.
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  Here's why I like this scene and why I like Obi Wan Kenobi in a
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  larger sense. But he's obviously protecting
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  Leia and Tala to an extent. He tells them to get going, like
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  get out of here, go, because he knows what the fuck's about to
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  happen. And I think earlier in this
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  episode, it was revealed to him that Anakin was alive.
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  And he's putting it together right, That Anakin is the guy in
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  the suit and he's going to get his first fucking glimpse of
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  what used to be his best friend. And of course this like the
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  runway is set for for the diva to come walking down in his Cape
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  and his boots, not Chanel, but but Dolce and Gabbana.
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  And here he comes. The whole thing is so fucking
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  frightening. And you have Vader out in the
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  open and you have Obi Wan enclosed, and there's that bar
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  of light over his eyes because he's looking out through the
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  slats of whatever that is. Yeah, like in a prison.
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  Yes, yes. And Vader knows he's there.
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  He just doesn't know where. And Vader uses that kindness I
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  spoke about to draw him out. He starts killing innocent
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  people for no reason, horrifically snapping necks,
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  dragging him out of the the the windows, dragging a woman down
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  the street, crying. That's me just pulling innocent
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  people out because he knows that's going to drive Obi Wan
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  Kenobi nuts. Yeah.
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  And it kind of works because he's got to draw Vader away from
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  Tala and and Leia at the same time, and he knows what's
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  happening. So if he goes out, maybe Vader
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  will stop. They sense each other and it's
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  the the Vader snap head turn. Yeah, the like a horror film
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  moment. Yes, they love every second of
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  that. And it's all the sound goes out
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  and you know, they, they sense each other.
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  During this moment, there's a lot of emphasis on Ewan's face,
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  his eyes, his the fear. I mean, Ewan does a fantastic
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  job. He can't believe what he sees.
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  And he he's fascinated by what he sees because in his head, you
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  know, he's putting it together like, I can't.
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  This used to be. And This is why I love Obi Wan.
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  For fucking years, he was that man's best friend.
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  They were like brothers. They, they shared so many things
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  together. Think of it like your best
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  friend turns into the epitome of darkness.
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  Head to toe in black stands for everything that he used to fight
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  against. The complete opposite in in
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  visual and in in like internal. Obi Wan is afraid.
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  There has to be something in his brain thinking like this can't
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  be real. How can this how like
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  physically, how did he live through this?
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  How did it come to this to even be able to move past that alone?
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  And this is early on in the series before he really connects
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  with the force in full. He's not ready yet.
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  And that's the point of their fight scene is that it answers
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  the question, why does Vader say in Episode 4, you know, when we
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  last met, I was, but you know, all this stuff and this, that
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  and the other thing, the whole, the whole thing.
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  And then, you know, he gets drawn through broken fire glass.
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  But that's besides the point. The point is psychologically,
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  Obi Wan is not prepared to face a person who has completely
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  changed so much. And yet he does.
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  He's not mentally there yet, but he has to because of Leia and
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  Tala. Yeah.
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  This is a man who continuously faces his fears, mentally,
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  physically, everything in between, and does it out of the
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  love of someone else. Leia.
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  He does it out of facing shit from his past.
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  His failures. He thinks that are his failures.
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  This is the embodiment of darkness and what's wrong with
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  the Galaxy. And it used to be his best
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  friend. Shit went down on Mustafar.
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  Yeah. And I just respect the fucking
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  hell out of Obi Wan because do you know how many times I would
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  say I'm not No, I'm not ready, I'll catch you next time.
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  I tiptoe away. I would tiptoe the fuck away.
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  But he does it anyway. And he continually does this and
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  then it ends up this giant beautiful scene between him and
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  Anakin in the fight that you described it we described in our
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  episode. But and then he apologizes for
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  everything that happened. But in that moment, he's so
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  scared and he's so Can you imagine being that fucking
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  confused? Oh.
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  My God, he's got a lot going on there.
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  There's so much that is revealed to him in so little time.
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  Andy has Leia, Andy has Talla, and he's got a street full of
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  people that are just dying left and right because Anakin wants
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  to draw him out. Do you know the overwhelming
• 22:23
  amount of sensations? Seriously.
• 22:27
  Info overload. It would paralyze some people.
• 22:30
  It would destroy some people. But he just walks right out and
• 22:34
  faces it. I just respect the hell out of
• 22:36
  him. And I love that about Obo.
• 22:37
  I always have. We've talked about this so many
• 22:40
  times, about how in the face of like the most horrific shit, he
• 22:45
  still finds a way to rise to the occasion.
• 22:48
  And it's the same like even in Phantom Menace he makes promise
• 22:53
  to Qui Gon and protects Anakin. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:56
  Just like in this, he is protecting Anakin's daughter
• 22:59
  from Anakin. That's insane.
• 23:01
  That's the that's the other thing.
• 23:03
  He has all this knowledge that none of no one else does.
• 23:06
  Yeah. You know, not even Anakin.
• 23:07
  Anakin doesn't know he has a daughter.
• 23:09
  Right. You're right.
• 23:10
  Yeah, it's. Fucking crazy.
• 23:12
  And and the scenes before this. So the scenes leading up to it,
• 23:15
  he's literally on his knees in a prayer position asking Qui Gon
• 23:20
  for help because he knows what he has to do.
• 23:21
  He doesn't want to do it. He's afraid to do it.
• 23:23
  How how many of us have faced something that we have to do but
• 23:28
  we're deathly afraid of, and we ask for help or guidance or give
• 23:32
  me the courage to just do this. I just can't imagine.
• 23:35
  There's so much history there, and I just give him so much
• 23:39
  respect. And I just think it was so well
• 23:42
  done in that instance where they focus on his eyes because a lot
• 23:45
  of it is seeing him for the first time, understanding that
• 23:49
  this man in black, this machine is the remnants of your best
• 23:55
  friend in the last 30-40 years of your life.
• 23:59
  Yeah, it's fucked up, man. It's too.
• 24:00
  It's too much, but it's beautiful.
• 24:03
  It's beautiful because that's Star Wars.
• 24:06
  Luke has to do it. Luke is exactly the same, is in
• 24:10
  the same position. Even actually, when Obi Wan is
• 24:13
  on his knees asking for help and reliving things, he's hearing
• 24:17
  the voice of Yoda, which is not a coincidence.
• 24:20
  There's just a lot. There's a lot.
• 24:22
  It's Star Wars. It's so I just.
• 24:29
  Really appreciate everyone's performance in all of that.
• 24:33
  Yes, and like how they take it seriously.
• 24:38
  I, I, I really enjoyed this show in a way that I didn't enjoy the
• 24:43
  prequels in a sense because, and this is really a George Lucas
• 24:47
  thing. He wants to keep it like a
• 24:49
  Saturday afternoon movie. So even in well, I was in A New
• 24:54
  Hope when Luke comes back and finds his family burned to a
• 24:58
  crisp on the ground. Mark Hamill wanted to play it
• 25:01
  realistically, like he was like, I think I'd be pretty upset.
• 25:04
  And George Lucas is like, I don't want you to cry.
• 25:06
  Like I don't want it to get too emotional.
• 25:09
  We need to stay in like fairy land a little bit.
• 25:11
  This show really allowed you in to kind of dive into the real
• 25:16
  pain. Whereas you know, in Revenge of
• 25:20
  the Sith, we get it right in the end of their, you know, when he
• 25:24
  cuts his legs off and leaves him there to die and you get the you
• 25:27
  were my brother Anakin like that, like that is it.
• 25:30
  And I think that's kind of why it hit so hard because it was
• 25:32
  like, wow, we've never seen emotion like this out of Homa,
• 25:36
  said Ewan McGregor. I meant Obi Wan Kobe.
• 25:39
  They just like melted in my mind.
• 25:42
  Exactly. But to get to then let a
• 25:47
  character who's always kind of cracking jokes and being snarky
• 25:51
  and not taking, I mean, he takes it seriously.
• 25:53
  It's not like he's not taking it seriously, but.
• 25:55
  Like there's a person in there who's always ready with the
• 25:58
  snark. That's his personality.
• 26:00
  Yeah, but he shelves it when he needs to and then puts it out at
• 26:03
  any given time. Like this actually segues really
• 26:06
  nicely into my my runner up because.
• 26:08
  Yeah. What is it?
• 26:10
  Well, so much of Obi Wan is repressing real heavy dark
• 26:17
  things. I mean, like we said, he rises
• 26:20
  to the occasion and like kind of moves beyond the Super emotional
• 26:23
  stuff in a way that's frighteningly efficient
• 26:25
  sometimes. The Lawless.
• 26:29
  Yes, I was thinking that too. You know, Vader's pulling people
• 26:33
  out and snapping necks and stuff.
• 26:34
  That's not that had to have raised some kind of emotional.
• 26:38
  Yeah. Trauma from Satine being held
• 26:41
  there and then just boop. Done.
• 26:43
  Yeah. Oh my gosh, I never even put
• 26:45
  that together. You're so right.
• 26:46
  That was. Well, it's not like we got it in
• 26:48
  the show, but in in. All we.
• 26:50
  Know that this has already happened to him.
• 26:53
  Poor woman. Right.
• 26:54
  Right in front of him. Anywho.
• 26:56
  Anywho, your your your moment. So that's why I love this scene
• 27:00
  between Obi Wan and Leia in the back of the truck which is back
• 27:04
  of the. Truck, yes.
• 27:06
  Probably no surprise to anybody that that's like on my list
• 27:09
  because it is one of my favorite moments of Obi Wan ever I think.
• 27:14
  It's so good. It's very good.
• 27:16
  Well done all over I. Think it's so special because he
• 27:20
  is so human in that scene and we're so used to seeing the hero
• 27:26
  or like we said, the general who's kind of snarky and we know
• 27:31
  he can fight really well and takes everything very seriously.
• 27:34
  But that moment is just a man talking to his best friend's
• 27:39
  daughter, like trying to connect with her and comfort her in a
• 27:44
  way that we not even with like Pneuma, because even then he was
• 27:48
  still true Ben back, back to the fight, fellas.
• 27:52
  Like it was never getting too connected to anybody.
• 27:55
  He always kind of kept the teen at arm's length.
• 27:57
  He was very rarely gentle with Anakin even.
• 28:03
  And that's why I love this moment, because he turns to her
• 28:06
  and then the cinematography is very close.
• 28:09
  It's just the close-ups of their faces, which implies like
• 28:11
  intimacy in in, not in like a romantic way.
• 28:14
  It means like emotional intimacy between people.
• 28:17
  It's very important for her to ask these questions and put him
• 28:21
  on the spot in a way, and for him to respond calmly and kindly
• 28:25
  and then make reference to his parents and his brother and a
• 28:32
  past that he has never spoken of ever under any circumstances
• 28:37
  before, I thought was really interesting and well.
• 28:41
  It's beautiful because he felt safe with her already.
• 28:43
  It felt like to me it was the first time seeing the real Obi
• 28:48
  Wan, you know what I mean? Like he is a general and a Jedi
• 28:53
  and a diplomat and on the hollow net or whatever is a hero of the
• 28:57
  Galaxy. This was like just Obi Wan.
• 29:02
  This was just like a man and and I really liked it because I like
• 29:06
  craved this the whole time during Clone wars.
• 29:10
  I love the hero. But the thing I think that,
• 29:13
  like, really makes good storytelling is when you kind of
• 29:16
  crack that every now and then and you see, oh, he's a human
• 29:20
  being also. He's a good human being, damn.
• 29:25
  He is, but to see someone who's strong have vulnerability, I
• 29:30
  think it's important for the audience because it's like a
• 29:33
  reflection of ourselves that it's not necessarily
• 29:37
  unattainable to be a strong person, even though we might be
• 29:41
  feeling weak or vulnerable. It's like, well, your hero also
• 29:44
  have moments where they're weak and vulnerable.
• 29:47
  I think it's it's just a really beautiful scene.
• 29:49
  It's one of my favorites. It's so beautifully acted by the
• 29:52
  two actors and it's. Insane how good it is with such
• 29:56
  a young actress too. Yeah, and and a seasoned vet
• 30:00
  like Ewan, I mean, it's just. Yeah.
• 30:03
  It's very beautiful. Again, like I think Ewan has
• 30:06
  matured so much as an actor. When he was younger he was good,
• 30:09
  but I sometimes kind of felt like I could see through it a
• 30:12
  little bit. And now basically in the last 10
• 30:16
  years, he's done projects where he took risks in ways he didn't
• 30:20
  when he was younger. You know, he was always like
• 30:22
  naked and everything when he was younger and like a. 100%.
• 30:27
  Really put himself out there, like literally.
• 30:30
  And now I feel like he takes more emotional risks now where
• 30:34
  you see, I don't even know how to describe it.
• 30:37
  It's more existential because before, like even in like young
• 30:41
  Adam, which I cannot bear to watch, that movie is so
• 30:43
  upsetting. Oh my.
• 30:43
  God, I know, I know. It's it's like, yeah, OK, you're
• 30:47
  being gritty, but like, EW. It's so true.
• 30:53
  Like, I never want to see that again.
• 30:56
  And the stuff he's made more recently, it's like, wow, I
• 31:00
  would never have expected you to make a movie like that.
• 31:02
  It's very interesting. Though.
• 31:04
  Yeah, I love it. Yeah.
• 31:06
  And I, and to have this is my desire always to bring that
• 31:10
  sophistication into Star Wars and let the actors really act
• 31:16
  and not be hammy because it's just like, it adds so much to it
• 31:22
  when you allow them to do what they do best.
• 31:25
  And that's. I always feel that.
• 31:28
  And the last time I saw, like Returning the Jedi on the big
• 31:30
  screen, even though Mark Hamill is having to ham it up, there
• 31:35
  are moments where he's really acting the shit out of a scene.
• 31:39
  And to see it on the big screen, it was like, I had no idea he
• 31:43
  was actually crying. In that last scene with Vader,
• 31:46
  when Vader dies on the floor, you can't see it on the TV.
• 31:50
  On the big screen, you can see it.
• 31:51
  I was just like, holy shit. That's why that seems so good.
• 31:56
  And it's underplayed. It's very subtle.
• 31:59
  He never overacted it. And that's what Ewan does so
• 32:02
  beautifully as well. It's not hammy, it's perfect.
• 32:07
  No ham involved in this. It's a ham sandwich.
• 32:13
  I I agree with everything you just said.
• 32:16
  I'm sitting over here shaking my head the whole time trying not
• 32:18
  to interrupt you with my yeah. That's how I felt with with your
• 32:25
  last one day I was just like nodding really hard.
• 32:30
  He's a really great character. This is a really great show full
• 32:33
  of great moments. Yeah.
• 32:35
  And we could do this for another 4 hours probably, no problem.
• 32:42
  But we're going to revisit more favorite Obi Wan moments.
• 32:45
  We're just going to randomly pick stuff in the future, like
• 32:48
  from this episode of Clone Wars or this or this part of this
• 32:52
  Return of the Jedi or I'm not Revenge of the Sith, is what I
• 32:55
  meant to say, But whatever. Yeah, I do.
• 32:59
  I have to say too. I have like some little
• 33:02
  honorable mentions and let's go when Leia falls off the roof.
• 33:06
  Oh yeah. I love that scene so much.
• 33:08
  Oh my God, Because they do this hyper close up, right?
• 33:12
  Which is they do they only use that when it's supposed to be
• 33:15
  super intense emotion, right? And he's panicking, like legit
• 33:19
  panicking. They close up on his eyes and he
• 33:22
  they're like looking everywhere and he doesn't know what to do.
• 33:24
  And he's like, Oh my God, just hold on.
• 33:26
  And he's looking for someone else to help.
• 33:28
  And you never see Obi Wan Kenobi do that ever.
• 33:34
  I loved it so much. And then he, it forces him like
• 33:38
  you're the only one. You're the only one there.
• 33:40
  You have to do it and he has to do it.
• 33:42
  Rises to the occasion. And it's so fucking satisfying.
• 33:45
  My God it. Is it is really satisfying.
• 33:50
  I think it's fantastic that Leia is the one that that brought it
• 33:53
  out of him. I think that is extremely on
• 33:56
  point for if he's going to do it, it's going to be for one of
• 34:00
  those kids. Yeah, and I love that it was for
• 34:03
  her. I I know some people didn't like
• 34:05
  that it was Leia. I loved that they brought Leia
• 34:08
  into the story because I think they did it well.
• 34:10
  They really I do too. And Vivian is, she was so great
• 34:14
  and I have no complaints. 00. Then I also just really love
• 34:21
  anytime he punches someone. Yes, we've been over this
• 34:26
  before. It's so great.
• 34:29
  It really is. We need more physical force.
• 34:32
  Seriously, like I love when you know, we've talked about how hot
• 34:35
  it is when Jedi just use the force, but also when Obi Wan who
• 34:38
  can use the force, chooses to use his fists.
• 34:42
  I'm just ready to see Obi Wan bitch slap someone like straight
• 34:45
  up backhand. I would love to see that.
• 34:49
  And I honestly think it's deserving of I can't even say
• 34:54
  it. I feel like if Obi Wan were to
• 34:59
  ever backhand somebody, it would be his buddy there with the
• 35:04
  tattoo, the thing over his nose. The Jedi Quinlan.
• 35:12
  He would backhand Quinlan. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:17
  Or mall just to get a rise out of him.
• 35:19
  Oh, that would be great, yeah. That would be cruel.
• 35:25
  Did you have any other honorable mentions?
• 35:27
  Just basically like the well, especially the first time he
• 35:31
  turns his lightsaber on. Oh, yeah.
• 35:33
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that is like, we've been
• 35:35
  waiting for him for so long and he immediately has that like
• 35:38
  powerful stance, even though he's like not ready to fight
• 35:41
  that muscle. Memories still there and
• 35:44
  anything in the Inquisitor Fortress when he's like slowly
• 35:46
  getting his mojo back. It was just like I.
• 35:49
  Actually, I actually wanted to mention the Inquisitor Fortress.
• 35:53
  Yep. That was that.
• 35:54
  There's a lot of good that went on in there.
• 35:56
  Yeah, yeah. And, and not only that, he's in
• 35:58
  a hallway. He's got like this odd essence
• 36:01
  of Luke in the hallway and Ray in the hallway.
• 36:04
  There's always like the hallway in Star Wars, you know, there's
• 36:08
  that moment. Yeah.
• 36:10
  There's a lot of good shit. And distracting the guards.
• 36:13
  It's very. And then there's that beautiful
• 36:14
  moment, even with him and Leia, where it's a reflection of
• 36:18
  Empire Strikes Back, where she's lit all red and he says I know
• 36:23
  to her. Just like Honda, it's true.
• 36:25
  Great scene. It's true.
• 36:27
  Oh, my. Good.
• 36:29
  Yeah. I could go on and on.
• 36:30
  We can stop here. But like, yeah.
• 36:34
  I guess it comes without saying we do love Obi Wan Kenobi, yeah.
• 36:38
  Can't help it. I mean comes with a name.
• 36:41
  Yeah. All right, our question for you
• 36:49
  this week is obviously, what is your favorite Obi Wan Kenobi
• 36:53
  moment in the Kenobi series? If you had to pick just one, you
• 36:57
  can say a couple. But, you know, if you had to
• 36:59
  narrow it down to one, please let us know because we're
• 37:02
  curious, as always. And you know us, we're bad at
• 37:05
  narrowing things down to. Always.
• 37:07
  Yeah, we always have runner ups and stuff.
• 37:12
  All right, join us back for our next episode.
• 37:14
  We have something very different that we're going to talk about,
• 37:17
  and Leanne is being very kind to humor me with this.
• 37:23
  We're going to talk about something called the New
• 37:25
  Hollywood movement and how Star Wars does and doesn't fit into
• 37:29
  that. It was a cinematic period in
• 37:32
  history from the late or the mid 1960s to the 1980s.
• 37:36
  It was a specific kind of cinema happening at that time.
• 37:40
  And we're just gonna discuss how original Star Wars, A New Hope
• 37:45
  in particular, does and doesn't fit into that genre.
• 37:48
  So join us back next time for that.
• 37:52
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