Latest / Diplomacy and International Relations / Summer 04: Theoretical Lenses for International Relations
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- 0:00You know, usually when we talk about a medical diagnosis, there
- 0:05is this very comforting expectation of precision, right?
- 0:08Like it feels almost like engineering.
- 0:10Yeah, absolutely. It's very mechanical.
- 0:12Right. If you take a bad fall on a ski
- 0:14slope and you know your arm swells up, you go get an X-ray
- 0:17and the image comes back and you see that jagged glowing white
- 0:21line across the radius bone. And the doctor just points at
- 0:24the screen and says, well, there it is.
- 0:27That is the problem. It's entirely binary.
- 0:30It's either broken or it isn't. Exactly.
- 0:32And I mean, that binary gives us a really profound sense of
- 0:36psychological security. We inherently crave a reality
- 0:39where problems are, you know, visible, neatly categorized, and
- 0:44therefore solvable with just a standard cast and six weeks of
- 0:47rest. Right.
- 0:47But then you step into the realm of international relations and
- 0:50you realize almost immediately that the X-ray machine is
- 0:53fundamentally broken. Or, well, maybe it was just
- 0:56never plugged in to begin with. Yeah, that's a great way to put
- 0:59it. We are looking at this global
- 1:00diagnostic landscape that just isn't a neat fracture.
- 1:05It's murky, it's chaotic, and it's overflowing with
- 1:08contradictory symptoms. I mean, we're watching wars
- 1:11breakout, trade agreements collapse, historical alliances
- 1:14fracture. And there is no single
- 1:16diagnostic tool that can just, you know, point to the screen
- 1:19and say, ah, yes, here's the clean break in the international
- 1:23system. No, it is the absolute
- 1:24definition of diagnostic Muddy Waters.
- 1:27The daily flow of global news is just a barrage of seemingly
- 1:31random, often terrifying and deeply complex events, and
- 1:36without a framework to process that information, it just looks
- 1:39like noise. Which brings us to the core of
- 1:41our discussion today. For those of you joining us for
- 1:43this 4th deep dive in our summer series on diplomacy and
- 1:45international relations, we are tackling a question that sits
- 1:48beneath every single news headline you read.
- 1:51With all this chaotic flow of daily events, why do we actually
- 1:55need theory to make sense of international politics?
- 1:57If you've been with us for the first 3 deep dives, you know
- 2:00we've laid some serious groundwork.
- 2:02We've traced the sweeping history of the modern world,
- 2:06unpacked the intricate, often hidden mechanics of diplomacy,
- 2:10and mapped out the massive cast of actors operating on the world
- 2:14stage. Yeah, we covered a lot of
- 2:15ground. It really did.
- 2:17But today we are talking about the toolkit you need to actually
- 2:21interpret how all those actors collide.
- 2:24Oh, and real quick, before we get into it, if you're enjoying
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- 2:40specifically focused on Danish politics, which is super helpful
- 2:44for applying these big ideas locally.
- 2:47Exactly. So, OK, back to theory.
- 2:49How do we even begin to define what theory is in this context?
- 2:53Well, I like to think of theory as the operating system for your
- 2:57geopolitical brain. OK, I like that.
- 2:59Because if you try to process every single diplomatic cable,
- 3:02every military movement, every economic shift as just raw data,
- 3:06you will crash. You know, theory gives you the
- 3:09algorithm to filter the noise and find the signal.
- 3:11Yeah, I often visualize it like a set of prescription glasses or
- 3:15maybe different camera filters on your phone.
- 3:17Oh, that's a good analogy. Right.
- 3:19Like you take a photo of a crowded city street.
- 3:21That is the raw data, the actual event.
- 3:24Now, if you apply a high contrast black and white filter,
- 3:28the image suddenly looks gritty, dangerous, bleak.
- 3:32Your eyes are drawn to the shadows and the isolation of the
- 3:34figures. But if you swipe and apply a
- 3:37warm vintage golden hour filter to the exact same photo, it
- 3:41suddenly looks cooperative, nostalgic, community oriented.
- 3:45Yeah, your focus totally shifts. Exactly.
- 3:47Your eyes are drawn to the people talking on the corner.
- 3:50The underlying picture hasn't changed by a single pixel, but
- 3:53the filter completely changes the focal point and the story
- 3:56you tell about that street. That is a phenomenal way to
- 3:59conceptualize it. The filter dictates the
- 4:01narrative, and our goal today, using some highly comprehensive
- 4:06academic source material on international relations theory,
- 4:09is to basically hand you those different filters, right?
- 4:11We want to show you how applying these different theoretical
- 4:14lenses completely alters your understanding of the exact same
- 4:18global events. And I want to pause here because
- 4:20looking through the sources, the first major hurdle for anyone
- 4:24getting into this is just understanding what we actually
- 4:27mean by theory in this context. Yeah, I can be intimidating.
- 4:31It really can. And the literature draws a very
- 4:34hard line between two types of theory, right?
- 4:37Empirical and normative. Let's break those down.
- 4:39Yeah, this distinction is crucial because it dictates the
- 4:42entire purpose of your analysis. So an empirical theory is
- 4:46strictly observational. It attempts to explain the world
- 4:49based on measurable historical experiences.
- 4:52So is looking at what's already there.
- 4:53Exactly. It is trying to describe how the
- 4:56world actually is. An empirical theorist will look
- 4:58at, say, a trade war and attempt to measure the tangible material
- 5:02factors. Like tariffs or supply chain
- 5:05disruptions that sort of. Thing right, Tariffs, domestic
- 5:07employment rates, things that caused it.
- 5:09They are looking purely for cause and effect.
- 5:12OK, so that's like the scientists just measuring the
- 5:13temperature of the water? Exactly.
- 5:15But then the normative theory comes in, and this feels, I
- 5:18don't know, much more like philosophy.
- 5:20To me, normative theories build on principles of how social
- 5:24interactions ought to be. Yes.
- 5:26They are prescriptive, not just descriptive.
- 5:28That's right. Normative theorists look at the
- 5:31international system and they evaluate it against a moral
- 5:35baseline. They might say, well, based on
- 5:37the universal value of human rights, this is the direction
- 5:40the international system should be moving.
- 5:42OK. And here is how we engineer the
- 5:44institutions to actually get us there.
- 5:46Which perfectly explains why debates in international
- 5:50relations get so incredibly heated.
- 5:52Oh, completely. I mean, if I'm operating on an
- 5:54empirical level, just arguing about the math of a missile
- 5:57trajectory, and you are operating on a normative level,
- 6:01arguing about the morality of possessing the missile at all,
- 6:05we aren't even having the same conversation.
- 6:07No, you're talking past each other.
- 6:10And this is exactly why stepping into theory requires what the
- 6:13literature calls a paradigm shift.
- 6:15Right, Thomas Kuhn's concept. Yes, Thomas Kuhn, his concept of
- 6:19the paradigm chief, is foundational here.
- 6:22A paradigm is basically the accepted framework of basic
- 6:25concepts, assumptions, and practices within any discipline.
- 6:29Kuhn argued that scientific progress isn't just this slow,
- 6:33steady accumulation of facts. It happens in violent ruptures.
- 6:37The classic example being the shift from a geocentric universe
- 6:40where everyone absolutely knew the sun revolved around the
- 6:43earth to a heliocentric unit because you can't just take the
- 6:47new data about the earth moving and comfortably wedge it into
- 6:50your old earth centered model. The math literally breaks.
- 6:53It doesn't work you. Have to throw the entire old
- 6:55model out and start from scratch.
- 6:57And that process is deeply disorienting.
- 7:00I mean, it forces you to question your own fundamental
- 7:03baseline of reality. When you adopt A new theoretical
- 7:06paradigm in international relations, the actors change,
- 7:08the motives change, the definition of power changes.
- 7:12Wow, you are looking at the exact same planet, but the
- 7:15mechanics of how it operates have flipped.
- 7:18But OK, if these theories are just different filters, a way of
- 7:22managing data, I have a major reservation here.
- 7:24OK, what is? It looking at how political
- 7:26science is often practiced, doesn't picking a single filter
- 7:30and rigidly defending it create a massive blind spot?
- 7:34Oh, definitely. Because the source is warned
- 7:36about something called vertical drift.
- 7:38If I decide I'm a strict believer in one theory, won't I
- 7:42just cherry pick facts from the individual level, the state
- 7:45level, or the global level just to prove my filter is the right
- 7:48one while ignoring all the contradictory data?
- 7:51Yeah, you've identified the great trap of academia right
- 7:54there. Vertical drift is a pervasive
- 7:56issue. It happens when an analyst lacks
- 7:58a discipline framework and just randomly pulls facts from
- 8:01different levels of analysis to justify a pre-existing
- 8:03conclusion. However, theorists often
- 8:06fiercely defend their single paradigm because switching
- 8:09filters mid analysis destroys your logical consistency.
- 8:12Well, if you explain the outbreak of a war using the
- 8:15logic of, say, power competition, but then you try to
- 8:19explain the peace treaty using the logic of innate human
- 8:22goodness, your analysis just falls apart.
- 8:25Oh, I see. It's internally inconsistent.
- 8:27Exactly. A robust theory provides A rigid
- 8:30framework to test against reality.
- 8:32The best thinkers don't abandoned their filter, they
- 8:34simply acknowledge it's blind spots.
- 8:36All right, well, I want to start testing these frameworks against
- 8:39reality. The literature spends a
- 8:41significant amount of time on the two Titans of mainstream IR
- 8:45theory. Liberalism and realism.
- 8:46Exactly. These are the foundational
- 8:48paradigms that practically define the 20th century.
- 8:51I want to start with liberalism because honestly, reading its
- 8:54core tenets, it feels surprisingly optimistic for a
- 8:57discipline focused on geopolitics.
- 8:59It is fundamentally optimistic. Liberalism and international
- 9:02Relations operates on a very specific premise regarding human
- 9:06nature. It argues that humans are either
- 9:08innately good or at the very least capable of profound
- 9:11rational cooperation. Therefore, a lasting structural
- 9:14peace is not just some utopian dream, it is actually an
- 9:19achievable mechanical goal. And to understand the mechanics
- 9:23of this, the sources point us all the way back to the late
- 9:2618th century, to the philosopher Immanuel Kant.
- 9:29Yes, Kant is essential here. Kant laid the groundwork for
- 9:33what we now refer to as democratic peace theory, and I I
- 9:37found the logic here incredibly compelling.
- 9:39Kant essentially argued that the internal structure of a state
- 9:43dictates its external behavior. If you have a Liberal Democratic
- 9:47state, the citizens are the ones holding the power.
- 9:50And crucially, the citizens are the ones who bear the physical
- 9:53and economic costs of war. They're the ones getting
- 9:55drafted. They're the ones paying the
- 9:57taxes to fund the military. Exactly so.
- 10:00Kant's mechanistic argument is that if the people paying the
- 10:02blood price are actually in charge of the government through
- 10:04voting, they will rationally choose it's because.
- 10:08It hurts them directly. Yes.
- 10:10Therefore, if you can foster a world populated entirely by
- 10:13liberal democracies, they will inherently avoid going to war
- 10:17with each other. It is a profound shift from the
- 10:19reality of 18th century Europe. I mean, back then Europe was
- 10:23dominated by monarchs who could launch devastating territorial
- 10:26wars purely for personal glory. And they were completely
- 10:30insulated from the suffering of their subjects.
- 10:32Exactly. Liberalism suggests that
- 10:34democratization is the ultimate engine for global peace.
- 10:38Furthermore, liberals really emphasize economic
- 10:41interdependence. Like trade and supply chains?
- 10:43Yeah, if two democratic nations have deeply intertwined
- 10:47economies, if they rely on each other for energy, technology,
- 10:50consumer goods, the financial cost of going to war becomes
- 10:54utterly ruinous for both sides. War basically becomes
- 10:57economically irrational. We saw this theoretical optimism
- 11:01really attempt to manifest physically after the
- 11:04catastrophic trauma of First World War.
- 11:06Yes, we did. When you look at the devastation
- 11:08of trench warfare, the liberal response was, look, we must
- 11:11engineer a system where this never happens again.
- 11:14And that brings us to U.S. President Woodrow Wilson and the
- 11:17creation of the League of Nations.
- 11:18The League of Nations was the ultimate normative liberal
- 11:21project. Wilson's vision was to replace
- 11:24the old secretive alliances of European empires with a
- 11:28transparent general association of nations.
- 11:31Right. The mechanism there was
- 11:33collective security. The idea was that all nations
- 11:36would agree to respect each other's territorial integrity.
- 11:39Sounds great on paper. Right.
- 11:41And if one nation became an aggressor, the entire rest of
- 11:43the international community would automatically unite to
- 11:46punish them economically or militarily.
- 11:49But the architecture of that project failed spectacularly.
- 11:52I mean, the League couldn't stop Japan from invading Manchuria.
- 11:56It couldn't stop Italy from invading Ethiopia, and it
- 11:59completely failed to prevent the rise of Nazi Germany and the
- 12:02outbreak of the Second World War.
- 12:03Completely failed. When I look at that failure, it
- 12:06seems like the liberal assumption of rational
- 12:08cooperation just completely collapsed under the weight of
- 12:11aggressive nationalism. If human beings are capable of
- 12:15engineering the Holocaust, how does liberal theory survive?
- 12:18Historically, in that specific moment, it didn't.
- 12:21The trauma of the Second World War shattered the dominance of
- 12:24liberal optimism in international relations.
- 12:27It just couldn't explain what happened.
- 12:28No, it couldn't. The failure of the League of
- 12:30Nations created a massive intellectual vacuum.
- 12:34Policy makers and scholars looked at the wreckage of Europe
- 12:36and realized that relying on the innate goodness of humanity or
- 12:40the deterrent power of international law was not just
- 12:43naive, it was lethally dangerous.
- 12:47And filling that vacuum was the reactionary, hard nosed paradigm
- 12:51of realism. OK, so if liberalism is that
- 12:54warm golden hour filter focusing on shared prosperity, realism is
- 12:59the high contrast black and white lens that just strips away
- 13:02all illusions. Yes, absolutely.
- 13:04It is cynical, it is gritty and it views the international arena
- 13:07as a brutal arena of survival. Realism fundamentally rejects
- 13:10the liberal premise of human nature.
- 13:12Drawing on the political philosophy of Thomas Hobbes,
- 13:15realists view human beings as inherently self interested,
- 13:18fearful, and driven by a desire for power.
- 13:21Hobbes described the hypothetical state of nature, a
- 13:24world before governments and laws, as war of all against all,
- 13:29where life is nasty, brutish and short.
- 13:32And the realist leap here is really fascinating.
- 13:34They say, look, we solved the Habesian state of nature inside
- 13:37our borders by creating a sovereign government right of
- 13:40monopoly on violence that enforces the law.
- 13:43But outside our borders, the realist argument is that the
- 13:46international system is currently stuck in that brutal
- 13:49state of nature. This is the defining concept of
- 13:52realism, which is international anarchy.
- 13:55Now, it's vital to understand that in IR theory, anarchy
- 13:58doesn't mean chaos or constant explosions.
- 14:01OK, what does it mean? Anarchy has a very specific
- 14:03structural definition. It simply means there is no
- 14:06overarching global sovereign. There is no world government, no
- 14:10ultimate police force. If a hostile nation rolls tanks
- 14:13across your border, there is no Global 911 you can call that is
- 14:16guaranteed to save you. Because even the UN, as we'll
- 14:19discuss later, doesn't have its own standing army.
- 14:22It relies entirely on the voluntary contributions of self
- 14:25interested states. So if we accept this premise of
- 14:29anarchy, the downstream effects are massive.
- 14:32Hans Morgenthau, one of the foundational thinkers of 20th
- 14:35century realism, argued that because of this anarchic
- 14:38environment, all politics is a struggle for power.
- 14:41It is a tragic, inescapable logic.
- 14:44In an anarchic system, your ultimate goal is simply
- 14:46survival, because you can never truly know the hidden intentions
- 14:51of your neighboring state. I mean, they might seem friendly
- 14:54today, but leadership changes, right?
- 14:57The only way to guarantee your survival is to accumulate more
- 15:00power than they have. You must build a stronger
- 15:02military, secure more resources, form strategic alliances.
- 15:06But wait, this creates A terrifying feedback loop.
- 15:08Let's look at the mechanics of this.
- 15:09Say I am a state and I feel insecure, so I build 10 new
- 15:13warships, right? My intention is purely
- 15:14defensive. I just want to protect my
- 15:16coastline, OK? But my neighbor sees those 10
- 15:19warships and thinks, wait, are they planning to attack me?
- 15:21Naturally. Hi, so to guarantee their
- 15:23survival they build 12 warships. Now I feel incredibly threatened
- 15:27so I build 20. Neither of us wanted a war, but
- 15:29the structure of anarchy forced us into a massive arms race.
- 15:32What you've just described is the security dilemma, and it is
- 15:35the beating heart of realist theory.
- 15:38It explains how rational security seeking actions by one
- 15:42state inherently decrease the security of another, leading to
- 15:45spiraling tensions. Like the Cold War?
- 15:47Perfectly. It perfectly explains the logic
- 15:50of the US Soviet nuclear arms race during the Cold War.
- 15:54The tragedy of realism is that states are trapped in this cycle
- 15:58regardless of their internal domestic politics.
- 16:00OK, I understand the internal logic, but I have to push back
- 16:03here. Sure, realism paints a picture
- 16:05of a perpetual paranoid cage match.
- 16:08It sounds like a geopolitical reality show where everyone is
- 16:11just sharpening knives behind their backs.
- 16:13A little bit, yeah. But if you look at the empirical
- 16:15data of the last 70 years, we haven't had a World War Three.
- 16:18We have long, sustained periods of peace, massive global trade
- 16:23and really complex diplomatic cooperation.
- 16:26How do realists justify their grim worldview when we are
- 16:29clearly capable of putting the knives down?
- 16:32Well, a realist would smile at that and say you are
- 16:34fundamentally misinterpreting the nature of peace.
- 16:37For a realist, peace is not an evolution of human morality, nor
- 16:42is it the triumph of international law.
- 16:44Peace is simply a balance of power.
- 16:46A temporary stalemate. Precisely IF2 rival alliances
- 16:51are relatively equal in military and economic strength, like NATO
- 16:54and the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War, they will not directly
- 16:58attack each other because the cost of doing so is mutual
- 17:00destruction. The peace you are experiencing
- 17:03is merely a pause. It's a period where states are
- 17:06consolidating resources and maneuvering for advantage.
- 17:09Wow. The moment that balance of power
- 17:11shifts, if one side develops A revolutionary new weapon or
- 17:15suffers an internal collapse, the systemic restraint vanishes
- 17:18and conflict becomes highly probable.
- 17:20So liberalism argues we are slowly building a permanent
- 17:23architecture of peace, while realism argues we were just
- 17:26catching our breath between inevitable wars.
- 17:29Pretty much. That is an enormous analytical
- 17:31chasm. Surely in the decades since
- 17:33these theories were formulated, someone has tried to find a
- 17:35middle ground. Yes, definitely.
- 17:37The rigid dichotomy between the liberal focus on institutions
- 17:41and the realist obsession with raw power left a lot of scholars
- 17:45dissatisfied, and this dissatisfaction birthed 2
- 17:48incredibly important frameworks, the English school and
- 17:52constructivism. Let's unpack the English school
- 17:54first, because it introduces a concept that sounds like a total
- 17:57oxymoron, the anarchical society popularized by Hadley Bull.
- 18:02How can you have a society if you've already conceded to the
- 18:05realists that the system is anarchic?
- 18:08Bulls intervention is brilliant because he accepts the realist
- 18:11premise. Yes, there is no global police
- 18:13force, the system is anarchic. However, he rejects the realist
- 18:17conclusion that anarchy inevitably results in a brutal
- 18:20Habesian war of all against all. Bull observed that states over
- 18:24centuries of interaction have formed a distinct International
- 18:28Society. Sounds like a gentlemen's club
- 18:29without a bouncer. Exactly.
- 18:30Even without an enforcer, states generally follow established
- 18:33rules. They respect diplomatic
- 18:35immunity, they don't generally assassinate each other's
- 18:37ambassadors, they negotiate treaties and usually adhere to
- 18:41them. They recognize each other's
- 18:42borders and sovereignty. Why?
- 18:45Not just because they are terrified of retaliation, but
- 18:48because it is mutually beneficial to have predictable
- 18:50rules of the game. They have formed a shared
- 18:53diplomatic culture. So the English school tempers
- 18:56the paranoia of realism with the practical, cooperative habits of
- 19:00liberalism. It's a very pragmatic middle
- 19:03ground. It is.
- 19:03But if we want to talk about how those habits are actually
- 19:05formed, we have to talk about constructivism.
- 19:09And this is where the theory gets profoundly interesting,
- 19:12because it moves away from material things like tanks and
- 19:15GDP and focuses entirely on the realm of human ideas.
- 19:19Constructivism is a true paradigm shift.
- 19:22The foundational quote here belongs to Alexander Wendt, who
- 19:24famously wrote Anarchy is What States Make of It.
- 19:27I thought that quite it's a great one.
- 19:28Realists treat anarchy like gravity, an inescapable material
- 19:32law of the universe that forces states to compete for power.
- 19:36Wendt argues that anarchy is empty.
- 19:38It has no inherent logic. Right.
- 19:40His argument is that if states are constantly preparing for
- 19:42war, it isn't because the system forced them to.
- 19:45It's because they constructed the culture of enmity.
- 19:48Exactly. Let's dive into the mechanics of
- 19:50constructivism. It argues that state identities,
- 19:54and therefore state interests, are socially constructed by
- 19:57shared ideas, norms and historical interactions.
- 20:00Let me give you a really concrete example. the United
- 20:03States has a massive nuclear arsenal. the United Kingdom has
- 20:07a smaller but highly legal nuclear arsenal.
- 20:10North Korea has a relatively tiny nuclear arsenal.
- 20:14A strict realist looking only at material power would say the US
- 20:18should be terrified of the UK's hundreds of warheads and barely
- 20:21concerned about North Korea's handful.
- 20:23The reality is the exact opposite.
- 20:26The US doesn't lose a second of sleep over British nukes, but
- 20:29views North Korean nukes as an existential crisis.
- 20:32Why? Because of shared ideas and
- 20:34identity. the US and the UK have a shared history, democratic
- 20:37norms and a constructed identity.
- 20:39As allies, their interaction is based on trust.
- 20:41The US and North Korea have a constructed history of enmity.
- 20:46Constructivists point out that material power means nothing
- 20:49without the social context that gives it meaning.
- 20:51And the deeply optimistic, almost revolutionary mechanic of
- 20:55constructivism is that if our reality is constructed by shared
- 20:59norms, then we are not trapped. Exactly.
- 21:02If the rules of the game are just ideas we all agreed upon, a
- 21:06critical mass of people could simply change their minds.
- 21:09We could construct a new norm. Look at formal imperialism 150
- 21:14years ago. Conquering another nation and
- 21:15stealing its resources was a globally accepted norm of
- 21:19statecraft. It was standard practice.
- 21:20Today it is a profound violation of international norms.
- 21:24The material world didn't change.
- 21:26Our ideas did. That is the power of
- 21:28constructivism. But, you know, it also opens a
- 21:30critical doorway. If reality is constructed by the
- 21:33dominant norms and ideas, we have to ask whose ideas, right?
- 21:36Who got to write the rules of this International Society?
- 21:39Yeah. And who was excluded from the
- 21:40room when those identities were being constructed?
- 21:42Which brings us perfectly into the realm of critical and
- 21:45alternative theories. Yeah, because if they look at
- 21:47mainstream IR realism, liberalism, even constructivism
- 21:51to an extent, it was largely built by white western male
- 21:55scholars analyzing the actions of powerful industrialized
- 21:59western states. Critical theories argue that
- 22:02this incredibly narrow lens actively hides massive
- 22:05structures of oppression. Critical theories share a
- 22:08unifying mission. They do not just want to explain
- 22:10the world as it is. They want to expose the hidden
- 22:13power dynamics of the system to emancipate the people crushed by
- 22:16it. They challenge the foundational
- 22:18assumptions we've been taking for granted.
- 22:20Let's begin with Marxism. Now, when most people hear
- 22:22Marxism, they immediately think of domestic politics.
- 22:25You know, unions, taxation, the Bolshevik revolution.
- 22:28But applying A Marxist lens to international relations entirely
- 22:31redraws the map. Mainstream theories are obsessed
- 22:34with the state as the primary actor.
- 22:37Marxism looks at the geopolitical map, takes an
- 22:39eraser to all the national borders, and redraws the world
- 22:42strictly along class lines. Yes, for a Marxist, the
- 22:46fundamental dividing line of humanity is not between the
- 22:48French and the Germans, or the Americans and the Chinese.
- 22:52The dividing line is between the bourgeoisie, the owners of
- 22:55capital, and the means of production, and the proletariat,
- 22:58the working class, who must sell their labor to survive.
- 23:01So when a realist looks at the expansion of an empire, they see
- 23:05a state maximizing its security. How does a Marxist
- 23:09mechanistically explain imperialism?
- 23:12Well, a Marxist views imperialism and the entire
- 23:14international state system as a mechanism for capital
- 23:17accumulation. As industrialized economies
- 23:20produce more goods than their domestic populations can
- 23:22consume, and as the rate of profit begins to fall at home,
- 23:25the capitalist class must expand outward.
- 23:28They use the machinery of the state, the military, to forcibly
- 23:31open new markets, extract cheap raw materials from the
- 23:33developing world and exploit foreign labor.
- 23:36So a Marxist would argue that a war between two nations isn't a
- 23:40tragic security dilemma. It is an engineered conflict
- 23:43where the wealthy elite in country A send the working poor
- 23:47of country A to slaughter the working poor of country B just
- 23:51to secure control over an oil field or a vital shipping lane,
- 23:55which just ends up enriching the elites of both nations.
- 23:58Exactly. The state is just a shell
- 24:00company for the bourgeoisie. That's a great way to put it.
- 24:03And this leads into dependency theory, which is a crucial
- 24:06branch of Marxist IR. It argues that the global
- 24:08economy is structurally rigged. How so?
- 24:11You have the core wealthy industrialized nations and the
- 24:14periphery developing nations. The core extracts cheap raw
- 24:18materials from the periphery, manufacturers them into high
- 24:20value technology and sells them back to the periphery.
- 24:24The periphery is structurally trapped in a cycle of debt and
- 24:27under development, constantly feeding the wealth of the core.
- 24:30Which flows seamlessly into our next critical framework, post
- 24:33colonialism. If Marxism focuses on class,
- 24:36post colonialism zeroes in on the lingering structural legacy
- 24:40of empire in race. It forces us to confront the
- 24:43reality that the international system wasn't formed by a bunch
- 24:47of equal states politely signing treaties.
- 24:50It was forged through brutal global colonization.
- 24:54The sources highlight the profound impact of Edward Said's
- 24:58concept of Orientalism. Here, Said demonstrated how
- 25:01Western scholars, writers, and politicians systematically
- 25:05constructed a false, generalized narrative about the Middle East
- 25:08and Asia. The Orient was depicted as
- 25:11exotic, backward, irrational, and inherently dangerous.
- 25:15Well, the West constructed its own identity as rational,
- 25:18progressive and civilized. Exactly.
- 25:21And this wasn't just bad literature, it was a mechanism
- 25:23of power. By establishing themselves as
- 25:26the rational adult in the room, Western empires legitimize their
- 25:29domination over the supposedly irrational, childlike East.
- 25:33Post Colonialism points out that this dynamic didn't just
- 25:36evaporate when colonies gain formal independence.
- 25:38Right. I mean, look at how national
- 25:40borders were drawn in the Middle East and Africa.
- 25:42Lines were drawn on maps by British and French diplomats in
- 25:44drawing rooms, completely ignoring complex ethnic,
- 25:47linguistic and historical realities on the ground.
- 25:50Oh, absolutely. A post colonialist points out
- 25:52that when we analyze a modern civil war in one of these
- 25:55regions, a realist might just see a failed state.
- 25:58But a post colonialist forces you to see the direct
- 26:01mechanistic result of artificial colonial borders designed to
- 26:06divide and rule. It demands that the voices of
- 26:08the global S are centered in our analysis, rather than being
- 26:12treated merely as the battlegrounds for great power
- 26:15competition. And if we are talking about
- 26:17marginalized voices, we absolutely must engage with
- 26:20feminist IR theory. Feminist theorists in the 1980s
- 26:23like Cynthia Enlow started asking a deceptively simple
- 26:27question that shattered the discipline, which was where are
- 26:29the women? When you look at the summits,
- 26:31the defense ministries and the UN Security Council, the actors
- 26:34making the decisions that shape the globe are overwhelmingly
- 26:37men. But the feminist critique goes
- 26:39far beyond just demanding a quota of women in the boardroom.
- 26:43It attacks the very conceptual foundation of IR.
- 26:46The sources bring up V Spike Peterson's concept of gender
- 26:49invisibility. Feminist theory argues that the
- 26:52core concepts of international relations, rationality, power,
- 26:55and especially security are fundamentally defined by
- 26:58masculine traits. Let's dissect the concept of
- 27:01security as an example. When a realist talks about
- 27:04national security, they're talking mechanistically about
- 27:07protecting the borders of the state from foreign military
- 27:09invasion. They measure security and
- 27:11fighter jets and missile defense systems.
- 27:13But feminist scholars argue this is a profoundly narrow,
- 27:17masculine definition of security.
- 27:19If a state has impenetrable borders and a massive army, the
- 27:22realist says the state is secure, right?
- 27:25But what if, within those borders, domestic violence rates
- 27:28are skyrocketing, women lack basic economic autonomy, and
- 27:32maternal mortality is soaring? From a human security
- 27:36perspective, half the population is intensely insecure.
- 27:39Feminism reveals that the state itself is not a neutral
- 27:42protector. It often enforces patriarchal
- 27:44structures that disproportionately harm women.
- 27:47Furthermore, in times of war, mainstream analysis focuses on
- 27:50the battlefield. Troop movements and casualties.
- 27:53Exactly. But feminist analysis brings
- 27:56visibility to the hidden economy of war, the exploitation of
- 28:00female labor to sustain the war effort, the use of sexual
- 28:03violence as a systematic weapon of ethnic cleansing, and the
- 28:07burden placed on women as refugees keeping families alive.
- 28:10By making gender visible, you realize the entire architecture
- 28:14of global politics is skewed. OK, we have one final critical
- 28:18theory to explore, and I will admit this is the one that bends
- 28:21my brain the most. Post Structuralism.
- 28:23Post Structuralism, this framework takes aim at the very
- 28:27language we use to construct reality.
- 28:30They utilize the philosopher Jacques Derrida's concept of
- 28:32deconstruction. Yeah, Post structuralism argues
- 28:35that there is no objective truth outside of discourse.
- 28:38The language we use doesn't just describe reality, it creates it.
- 28:41OK. That's heavy.
- 28:42They look at binary oppositions, good versus evil, developed
- 28:45versus underdeveloped, civilized versus barbaric, and show how
- 28:48these linguistic pairings are always hierarchical, one term is
- 28:51always dominant, and the powerful use this language to
- 28:54legitimize their actions. Let me try to break this down
- 28:56mechanically with a concrete example.
- 28:58Let's look at military language. When a Western military drops a
- 29:02bomb that accidentally kills a family in a war zone, the
- 29:06military press briefing refers to it as collateral damage.
- 29:09A textbook example of discourse. When you deconstruct that
- 29:12phrase, collateral damage sounds clinical, mathematical,
- 29:15unavoidable, sounds like an accounting error.
- 29:18But if an insurgent group detonates a bomb that kills a
- 29:21family, the press calls it a barbaric slaughter of innocent
- 29:25civilians. The physical reality on the
- 29:27ground is identical. A family is dead, but the
- 29:30discourse completely shifts the moral responsibility.
- 29:34The language of collateral damage sanitizes state violence
- 29:37and maintains the state's legitimacy, while the language
- 29:39of barbarism delegitimizes the non state actor.
- 29:42That is exactly how deconstruction works.
- 29:44It exposes how language is weaponized.
- 29:47OK, but here's my major pushback.
- 29:49I completely understand the intellectual exercise of
- 29:51deconstructing a press briefing, but how does this accomplish
- 29:55anything practical in the brutal reality of global politics?
- 29:58It's a fair question. If a hostile nation has amassed
- 30:01100,000 troops on your border and their tanks are rolling
- 30:05forward, deconstructing the linguistic origins of the word
- 30:08sovereignty isn't going to stop the tank treads.
- 30:12Isn't this just academic word play while Rome burns?
- 30:16It is the most common and potent critique of post structuralism.
- 30:19It can feel deeply detached from material urgency, but the
- 30:23counter argument is that you cannot fight a system of power
- 30:27until you understand how it justifies itself.
- 30:29What? Do you mean?
- 30:30Dictators don't just roll tanks. They construct elaborate
- 30:33historical and linguistic narratives to justify why those
- 30:37tanks belong there, claiming historical sovereignty or
- 30:40framing the invasion as a peacekeeping operation to
- 30:43protect ethnic minorities. Right, controlling the
- 30:45narrative. If you can dismantle the
- 30:47language they use to justify the violence, you strip away their
- 30:51domestic and international legitimacy.
- 30:53You make it vastly easier for the international community to
- 30:56unite against them with sanctions and support for the
- 30:58victim. You don't stop the tank with a
- 31:00dictionary, but you shatter the narrative that allows the tank
- 31:03to operate unopposed. That makes a lot of sense.
- 31:06It is about breaking the spell of propaganda.
- 31:09OK, we have laid out an incredible array of lenses
- 31:12today. Liberalism, realism, the English
- 31:14school, constructivism, Marxism, post colonialism, feminism and
- 31:19post structuralism. It's a full toolbox.
- 31:21Now I want to take these abstract concepts and anchor
- 31:23them to physical brick and mortar.
- 31:25Let's apply these theories to the most prominent institution
- 31:28in global politics, the United Nations, specifically the UN
- 31:33Security Council. The UN Security Council is the
- 31:35ultimate Crucible for IR theory to set the baseline.
- 31:38The council has 15 members, but the true geopolitical gravity
- 31:42lies with the five permanent members, the US, Russia, China,
- 31:45France and the UK, right? And crucially, each of these
- 31:48five holds an absolute veto power over any substantive
- 31:52resolution. Which essentially freezes the
- 31:54power dynamics of 1945 in amber. Let's walk into the UN building
- 31:57and look through our different theoretical windows.
- 31:59If I put on my liberal glasses, how do I interpret this
- 32:02institution? A liberal looks at the UN and
- 32:05sees the greatest triumph of institutionalized diplomacy in
- 32:08human history. They don't pretend it's perfect,
- 32:11but they see a vital forum where states can resolve disputes
- 32:14through dialogue rather than artillery.
- 32:17The very existence of the UN creates a habit of cooperation.
- 32:21It establishes international law, and it coordinates massive
- 32:25logistical efforts for human rights and global health.
- 32:27OK, I take the liberal glasses off and snap on my realist
- 32:31lenses. The warm glow of cooperation
- 32:33vanishes. How does a realist explain the
- 32:36UN Security Council? A realist looks at the UN and
- 32:39sees a theater where hard power goes to put on a suit.
- 32:43They argue that the UN only functions when its actions align
- 32:45perfectly with the national interests of the great powers.
- 32:48So the veto is central for them. Absolutely.
- 32:51To a realist, the veto power isn't a flaw in the system, it
- 32:54is the only reason the great powers agreed to show up in the
- 32:561st place. The veto guarantees they can
- 32:58never be restrained by the majority.
- 33:00And the defining historical proof of this is the 2003 US
- 33:04invasion of Iraq. the US went to the Security Council, asked for
- 33:08authorization to invade, and failed to get it.
- 33:11And what did the US do? It simply bypassed the UN and
- 33:14invaded anyway, along with a coalition of the willing.
- 33:16Exactly. The realist points to that and
- 33:18says, see, when push comes to shove, material military power
- 33:23completely ignores international institutions.
- 33:25But if we swap to constructivist glasses and look at that exact
- 33:29same 2003 invasion, the analysis shifts entirely.
- 33:32How so? A constructivist agrees the US
- 33:34bypassed the UN, but they focus on the cost of doing so because
- 33:38the UN holds immense normative power.
- 33:40The idea that the UN confers international legitimacy
- 33:43bypassing it severely damaged American soft power.
- 33:46Oh interesting. Alienator allies fueled global
- 33:48anti American sentiment and made the subsequent occupation vastly
- 33:52more difficult. The US proved it had the hard
- 33:54power to ignore the UN, but the Constructivist points out a
- 33:56massive reputational damage of violating a global norm.
- 34:00That is a brilliant distinction. Let's keep moving.
- 34:02If I put on my Marxist glasses, I look at the UN and see a
- 34:05Capitalist Management Committee. It's a forum for the core
- 34:09wealthy states to manage the global economy, regulate trade
- 34:13to their advantage, and occasionally dispense
- 34:15humanitarian aid to the periphery just to prevent a
- 34:19total proletarian revolution that would disrupt global supply
- 34:23chains. Spot on.
- 34:24And if you view it through a feminist lens, you look at the
- 34:27history of the Security Council, the body authorized to dictate
- 34:30global security, and see an institution that has been almost
- 34:33exclusively run by men, right? You analyze UN peacekeeping and
- 34:38question why traditional mandates focus purely on
- 34:41separating armies while entirely ignoring the epidemic of sexual
- 34:45violence against women in those conflict zones, treating it as a
- 34:48secondary domestic issue rather than a core security threat.
- 34:51And finally, a post colonialist walks into the Security Council
- 34:54chamber, looks at the five permanent veto wielding members
- 34:58and points out a staggering geographical and racial reality.
- 35:03There is no permanent representation for the entire
- 35:05continent of Africa, nor for Latin America, nor for India,
- 35:09which represents over a billion people.
- 35:12It's. Glaring.
- 35:13A post colonialist sees an archaic structure designed to
- 35:16perpetuate the global hegemony of the former colonial powers,
- 35:20keeping the global South in a state of permanent political
- 35:24subordination. It is genuinely remarkable.
- 35:27By simply changing your theoretical lens, the United
- 35:30Nations transfers from a beacon of hope to a cynical tool of
- 35:34power to a theater of norms, to a mechanism of gendered and
- 35:37colonial oppression. None of these lenses are lying.
- 35:40They're just illuminating different structural realities.
- 35:43This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt why you cannot rely on
- 35:46just one theory. And to bring this home, I want
- 35:49to move out of the classroom and into the war.
- 35:50Room. OK, let's do.
- 35:51It we'll put this to a practical test, let's do a thought
- 35:53experiment. Imagine you are sitting in
- 35:55Christiansburg Palace advising the Danish Prime Minister.
- 35:59A crisis has just broken out. A highly radicalized
- 36:02transnational terrorist group has seized significant territory
- 36:06in a fragile state in North Africa, relatively close to the
- 36:09borders of the European Union. OK, serious situation.
- 36:12This is triggering a massive wave of displaced persons moving
- 36:15toward the Mediterranean, and there is intelligence suggesting
- 36:18the group plans to strike European targets.
- 36:22Walk me through how you brief the Prime Minister on this exact
- 36:24same scenario, first using a realist lens and then a
- 36:27constructivist lens. It is a highly complex, very
- 36:31realistic scenario. Let's start with the realist
- 36:33briefing. I walk into the Prime Minister's
- 36:35office and my sole focus is the material security of the Danish
- 36:38state and the stability of the European balance of power.
- 36:42I define the terrorist group strictly as a kinetic physical
- 36:45threat to our borders. So purely a military problem.
- 36:48Yes, my briefing explains that the fragile North African state
- 36:52has lost its monopoly on violence, creating a power
- 36:55vacuum that threatens regional stability.
- 36:57My recommendation is entirely reliant on hard power.
- 37:00I advise the Prime Minister to aggressively fund and arm the
- 37:04remnants of the host nation's military to crush the
- 37:07insurgency. Or direct intervention.
- 37:08Exactly. Alternatively, I advocate for a
- 37:11coordinated NATO military intervention, airstrikes, and
- 37:15special forces to decapitate the group's leadership and destroy
- 37:18their training camps. Regarding the migrants, I view
- 37:21them primarily through a security paradigm.
- 37:24They are a potential vector for instability that must be
- 37:26contained through hardened border enforcement and naval
- 37:29blockades. The.
- 37:30Classic muscular hardline response.
- 37:32Eliminate the physical capability of the threat.
- 37:34OK, step out of the room, take a breath and walk back in.
- 37:37As a constructivist, the intelligence on the desk is the
- 37:39exact same. How does your briefing change?
- 37:42The briefing changes radically because my definition of the
- 37:45threat has changed. I tell the Prime Minister that
- 37:47dropping bombs might destroy physical infrastructure, but it
- 37:51will absolutely fail to destroy the idea that fuels this
- 37:54insurgency. Because it's an ideology.
- 37:56Right. In fact, if a coalition of
- 37:58Western militaries begins bombing North Africa, we are
- 38:01playing directly into the terrorist group's narrative.
- 38:04We are validating their constructed identity of the West
- 38:07as a hostile imperialist crusader, which will serve as
- 38:11their greatest recruitment tool. Wow, so bombing actually makes
- 38:14us less secure in this view? Exactly.
- 38:17My recommendation focuses on norms and ideology.
- 38:20I advise that we must counter the narrative.
- 38:22We need to invest heavily in diplomatic engagement, counter
- 38:25radicalization programs, and economic support for local civil
- 38:29society organizations that provide an alternative peaceful
- 38:32identity for disenfranchised youth.
- 38:34And what about the migration crisis?
- 38:36Well, I emphasize that how Denmark and the EU treat these
- 38:39refugees will define our normative identity on the global
- 38:43stage. If we militarize the border and
- 38:45abandoned them, we erode the very liberal human rights norms
- 38:49that the EU claims as its foundational identity,
- 38:52fundamentally weakening our soft power globally.
- 38:55Wow, 2 completely divergent strategies, both deeply logical
- 38:59within their own paradigms. Let's do one more walk in as a
- 39:02post colonialist. As a post colonialist, I tell
- 39:04the Prime Minister that we cannot manage this crisis
- 39:07without understanding how Europe's past created it.
- 39:10I explained that this terrorist group did not materialize out of
- 39:12thin air. They are capitalizing on deep
- 39:15systemic resentments fueled by decades of economic exploitation
- 39:19and artificial borders drawn by European empires.
- 39:22So the historical context is everything.
- 39:24Everything. My recommendation is that any
- 39:26direct western military intervention will immediately be
- 39:29viewed correctly by many locals as an act of neo imperialism.
- 39:33I advise that the solution must be locally driven, not dictated
- 39:36by Christians, Board or Brussels.
- 39:38We must examine our own structural complicity.
- 39:41Like trade policies? Yeah, our European trade
- 39:43policies and agricultural subsidies destroying the local
- 39:46economy in that region, driving youth into radicalism.
- 39:50And on the issue of migration, I shift the moral framework
- 39:53entirely. I remind the Prime Minister that
- 39:56the vast wealth of Europe was built in part on the historical
- 39:59extraction of resources from the very regions these people are
- 40:03now fleeing. Which completely flips the
- 40:05script on Asylum. It does.
- 40:07Therefore, offering asylum is not an act of optional charity,
- 40:11it is a structural moral obligation grounded in
- 40:14historical debt. You've just laid out three
- 40:16completely contradictory paths of action.
- 40:19One says bomb them, one says diffuse the narrative, and one
- 40:22says look at our own historical complicity.
- 40:24If I am the Prime Minister, how do I know which lens is the
- 40:27correct one to base a multibillion dollar life and
- 40:30death policy on? That is the ultimate secret of
- 40:32the discipline. No single theory is the correct
- 40:35one. To believe that one paradigm
- 40:37holds the absolute truth is to deliberately blind yourself.
- 40:40You need them all. The most effective visionary
- 40:43policy makers are those who can synthesize multiple theories to
- 40:46expose their own blind spots. You use realism to understand
- 40:50and neutralize the immediate physical threat.
- 40:53You use constructivism to fight the ideological battle and
- 40:56maintain your soft power. And you use post colonialism to
- 41:00understand the deep historical context, ensuring you don't
- 41:03repeat the arrogant mistakes of the past that fueled the
- 41:05resentment in the first place. A robust foreign policy requires
- 41:09the integration of all these perspectives.
- 41:11That is incredibly illuminating. It clearly demonstrates that
- 41:14theory isn't just academic navel gazing for professors, it is the
- 41:18literal framework that dictates the life and death policy
- 41:21decisions shaping our world. Absolutely, and pulling all of
- 41:24this dense material together leads us directly into our key
- 41:27takeaways for this deep dive. Let's synthesize this journey
- 41:30into 3 clear, actionable insights for you to take with
- 41:33you #1 Theory is completely unavoidable.
- 41:37Whether you realize it or not, you are already using Siri.
- 41:40When you watch the Evening News and form an opinion about why a
- 41:44trade war started or why a ceasefire failed, you are
- 41:47implicitly applying a theoretical framework.
- 41:51The goal of studying IR is simply to become conscious of
- 41:55the filter you are using so it doesn't control you blindly.
- 41:58Exactly which brings us to #2 highlighting different aspects.
- 42:02Each theory we discussed, from realism's cold focus on the
- 42:06mechanics of power and survival to feminism's vital exposure of
- 42:10marginalized voices and invisible gender structures,
- 42:13illuminates a fundamentally different aspect of world
- 42:15politics. None of them show the whole
- 42:17picture, but layered together they provide a three-dimensional
- 42:20map of the international. And #3 conscious application.
- 42:25You can actively use these theories in your daily life,
- 42:28whether you are studying for a political science degree,
- 42:30teaching a high school class, or just listening to your Morning
- 42:33News briefing. Try a mental exercise.
- 42:35Swap your glasses. Just ask yourself, how would a
- 42:38Marxist read this headline about the supply chain?
- 42:40Exactly. Or what would a constructivist
- 42:43say about this new climate treaty?
- 42:46It is the single best intellectual habit to avoid
- 42:49being trapped in a narrow echo chamber perspective.
- 42:53And if you want to keep practicing that conscious
- 42:55application and see how these grand theories apply directly to
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- 43:14It's a fantastic way to watch these theories operate in real
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- 43:23have you be a part of it. Now, as we wrap up our time
- 43:25together, we always like to leave you with a final
- 43:28provocative thought to Mull over.
- 43:29Let's loop back to Thomas Kuhn and the concept of the paradigm
- 43:32shift. Kuhn noted that human beings
- 43:35once firmly, absolutely accepted the Flat Earth and the
- 43:38geocentric universe as unquestionable scientific facts.
- 43:42The smartest minds of the era built institutions around those
- 43:45beliefs. They thought they had it all
- 43:47figured out. Exactly.
- 43:48Today we accept the existence of the sovereign nation state, the
- 43:52concept of national security, and the rigid international
- 43:55borders that divide our map as absolute, unquestionable facts
- 43:59of reality. But the theories we explore
- 44:02today remind us that these are just concepts we have socially
- 44:05agreed upon. Right?
- 44:06So the thought I leave you with is this If our reality is
- 44:10constructed by the ideas we accept, what current absolute
- 44:13truths about our international system might future generations
- 44:17look back on as archaic, outdated, Flat Earth illusions?
- 44:21What a phenomenal question to end on.
- 44:24Think about that the next time you look at a globe.
- 44:26It might just be a temporary draft of human organization.
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- 44:55international law. Is it possible to have binding
- 44:58laws without a global police force to arrest the rule
- 45:01Breakers? We are going to find out.
- 45:03Until then, remember that the X-ray machine of global politics
- 45:06might be broken. But if you know how to swap your
- 45:08lenses, the Muddy Waters of international relations start to
- 45:11make a whole lot of sense. See you next time.