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When Your Exes Marry Each Other + Dorothy Wang Spills on Morgan Stewart · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: It's me, Heather McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it. There you go.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: You just got a snippet.
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  Speaker 3: Of my new song.
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  Speaker 2: I am a published pop star singer.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you to Drew Lewis, the incredible music producer, son
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  Speaker 1: of a dedicated Juicy Scooper Patreon member mom, who heard
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  Speaker 1: me say on a show a couple months ago that
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to have a hit pop song like so
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  Speaker 1: many housewives before me have paved the way. And I
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  Speaker 1: am a singer. And so this is my real voice.
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  Speaker 1: I really went in the studio. I really sang it.
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  Speaker 1: We wrote it together.
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  Speaker 2: We worked on it. We changed verses around.
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  Speaker 1: And the song is now available for you to listen
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  Speaker 1: to at all the platforms. Please download it.
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  Speaker 2: Please share it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's become the first podcasting comedian, mother of three, funny
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  Speaker 1: delight that has a hit single up there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it. I really would appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm so excited. So let's get into it. We
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  Speaker 1: have a great show. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a story I've talked about for
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  Speaker 1: a while, and I find it so juicy, and it's
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  Speaker 1: what we like to talk about, relationships, marriages, divorces, and affairs,
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  Speaker 1: and it's all rolled into this one breaking news story.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Hsu and Marilee Flebig, you're like, who are they, Heather? Well,
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  Speaker 1: they are the exes of TJ Holmes and Amy Robach.
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  Speaker 1: TJ and Amy Robach work together in TV. They had
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  Speaker 1: an affair. They were each married to those other people,
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  Speaker 1: Amy to Andrew Shue and TJ was married to Marilee.
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  Speaker 1: They had an affair. I can't remember what show they
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  Speaker 1: were on. I think it was the Today Show. They
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  Speaker 1: found out about it and they were both fired. They
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  Speaker 1: broke up and stayed together. They, of course, started their
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  Speaker 1: own podcast. I assume it's still going on. And a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the podcast was them talking about their relationship
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  Speaker 1: and making it better. And I was like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 1: is this going to last? I mean, if there's one
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  Speaker 1: way to break up, it's to have a podcast together.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems to have worked out. They just celebrated
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  Speaker 1: their nuptials. They're officially married. And today, the New York
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  Speaker 1: Post says, breaking news, that Andrew Hsu and Marilee, the
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  Speaker 1: exes of each, announced their engagement.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It might be the ultimate wife swap. It's great for
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  Speaker 1: all the kids involved because all your parents are in
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  Speaker 1: the same room. Like it's not some weird chick or
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  Speaker 1: some weird guy coming in. Um, maybe it's the most
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  Speaker 1: lovely situation. I don't know if the exes were there
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  Speaker 1: for the wedding. I'm assuming all their kids were there.
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  Speaker 1: I believe both sets have kids together. And I also
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  Speaker 1: want to say that there might be some stepkids between
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Hsu and Amy, and I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Totally sure on that. But it's fascinating. Good for them.
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  Speaker 1: Glad it all worked out. Glad there's no hard feelings.
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  Speaker 1: And that everybody's happier with their new spouse. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if they all become friends and somebody's having trouble, maybe
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  Speaker 1: Amy can go over to Mary Lou and be like,
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  Speaker 1: hey girl, what do I do when TJ starts doing
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  Speaker 1: this shit? And she'll go, girl, he started doing that
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  Speaker 1: around year six when we were together. And this is
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  Speaker 1: what I wish I would have done on year six.
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  Speaker 1: And you're on year six now. So this is what
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  Speaker 1: you should do. I mean, just think about it.
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  Speaker 2: You have like a blueprint. You have a history to
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  Speaker 2: go to.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're all friendly, you really might have fabulous
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  Speaker 1: second marriages with this scenario. So I'm all about the positivity.
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  Speaker 1: Let's all be lovely families together.
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  Speaker 2: Love it.
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  Speaker 1: Another classic story of this was Shania Twain and her husband,
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  Speaker 1: looks like we made it.
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  Speaker 2: And then they didn't make it.
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  Speaker 1: And then her best friend who was kind of working
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  Speaker 1: for her, she found out that he was seeing her.
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  Speaker 1: And so then she got divorced from her original husband of,
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  Speaker 1: looks like we made it.
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  Speaker 2: And you didn't. And then she got with that girl's husband.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what?
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  Speaker 1: I can only do so much research. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they're still together. Drake, Can you look up if
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  Speaker 1: Shania Twain is still with her ex-best friend's husband who
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  Speaker 1: her husband cheated with?
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot to figure out.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, and right now in the real housewives world, we're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with this with Kim Zolciak-Bierman. Kim Zolciak-Bierman is seeing
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  Speaker 1: a guy whose ex-wife.
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  Speaker 2: Is seeing Croy.
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  Speaker 1: They're all dating together. And yes, looks like they made it.
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  Speaker 1: My husband cheated with my best friend. I went to
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  Speaker 1: you and cried about it.
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  Speaker 2: You wiped my tears and we clist, clist, kissed. Now
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  Speaker 2: that it's been years.
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  Speaker 1: People like TJ Holmes and Amy Roebuck and Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: Hsu and Marilee are copying our love parody. All of
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  Speaker 2: this is improv, you guys.
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  Speaker 1: There's only so many people that can do this in
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  Speaker 1: this medium.
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  Speaker 2: And it's your girl, Heather MacDonald. Good for them. Happy, happy, happy.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people say I should be Shania Twain
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  Speaker 1: for Halloween. I just feel her look has changed so much.
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  Speaker 1: She's gone from like brown hair to long blonde to
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  Speaker 1: like a couple different facelifts.
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  Speaker 2: Still beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: I still love myself in a cowboy hat. So that's
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  Speaker 1: always a great look to go for. Lisa Barlow and
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  Speaker 1: Kyle did it when they didn't want to dress up
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  Speaker 1: too much. It's a lazy costume. It's a flattering costume.
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  Speaker 1: Go be a cowgirl or a cat this Halloween. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: getting back to Kim and Corey, we know all the
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  Speaker 1: trauma that's going on with their son. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: an update on any of that, but this came out
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  Speaker 1: that in their divorce proceedings, which they are not officially divorced, yes,
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  Speaker 1: Corey and Kim, they both blame each other for getting
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  Speaker 1: themselves in a horrible financial place.
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  Speaker 2: If you looked at the old.
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  Speaker 1: Episodes of the show, they were so about spending She spent,
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  Speaker 1: the wigs were apparently 7,000 and she'd wear them once
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  Speaker 1: and throw them away. I couldn't believe it. They built
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  Speaker 1: a whole glam room where there'd just be wigs everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: They always had label-y clothes and fancy furniture. And you
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  Speaker 1: were like, how much does this football player make? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we also saw her gambling. We also heard he also
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  Speaker 1: liked to gamble. But like, if you watch the RV
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  Speaker 1: show when it was like, tardy for the party, get
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  Speaker 1: on the RV. she'd be like, cry, cry, cry, cry.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta go.
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  Speaker 1: Just let me go into the, let me just go
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  Speaker 1: in this Indian casino, this Indian casino casino for like
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  Speaker 1: one minute, please, please. And so he is putting it
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  Speaker 1: out there in his divorce proceedings. And if this has
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  Speaker 1: been made public, I guess. Um, but they, he said
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  Speaker 1: throughout the marriage that she has spent $ 1. 5 million in gambling.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that she didn't get back. So she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a lucky gambler. Uh, There's unpaid back taxes and interest
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  Speaker 1: and penalties to the IRS.
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  Speaker 2: It is 1.1 million.
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  Speaker 1: Luxury store shopping, 600,000 at Sac Chanel Versace between 2016
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  Speaker 1: and 2023. I'm going to say I don't think that's
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  Speaker 1: that much. I honestly don't. Like that's a lot of years.
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  Speaker 1: That's seven years. So that's like less than $ 100, 000 a
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  Speaker 1: year on like clothes and everything. And she did have
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  Speaker 1: six kids. So I don't know if that means it
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  Speaker 1: was only for her. If it's only for her, it's
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  Speaker 1: still extravagant, but okay. Bahamas gambling trip. They like to
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  Speaker 1: go to the Bahamas. And on one trip, which she
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  Speaker 1: admitted to Kim, she lost 250,000 gambling in the Bahamas.
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  Speaker 1: The Bahamas is kind of a fun place to gamble.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Not that I have, but I know they have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fancy casinos. That's where Atlantis is, which I
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  Speaker 1: performed out many years ago. I loved going down the
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  Speaker 1: water slide and I would like to go back. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. American Express, $ 215, 000.
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  Speaker 1: Bitcoin and lottery fund from 2021 was $ 161, 000 that was
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  Speaker 1: lost in that. Secondary IRS tax lien was $ 163, 000. Another
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  Speaker 1: 2022 Bitcoin and lottery fund was, this was also tracked
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  Speaker 1: in the divorce financial.
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  Speaker 3: Records, $ 65, 966.
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  Speaker 2: So it's basically, let's round it up to $ 66, 000.
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  Speaker 1: And lottery fund was, this was also tracked in the
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  Speaker 1: divorce financial records.
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  Speaker 2: $ 65, 966.
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  Speaker 1: So it's basically, let's round it up to 66 and
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  Speaker 1: Target credit card debt from Target. I mean, $ 2, 000, but
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  Speaker 1: I guess Target came after them. So I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: now in their case, they also are blaming each other
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  Speaker 1: for being an awful parent. And she has also gone
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  Speaker 1: on record, Kim, to say about Croy with cameras, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some of the paparazzi was there, with her new boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: standing next to her saying, I wouldn't want my daughters
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  Speaker 1: around Croy. I believe he has daughters with his wife, ex-wife,
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  Speaker 1: who is dating Croy. So she was sort of slinging
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  Speaker 1: shade like Croy shouldn't be trusted around the daughters. And
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  Speaker 1: that was before we were made aware of all the
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  Speaker 1: problems with their son, KJ Jr., So this is not
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  Speaker 1: a foursome that I'm for. This is something that I
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  Speaker 1: think if I was friends with either any of these people,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, I don't think this partner is who
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  Speaker 1: you should be with. That's, I would just be like,
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  Speaker 1: I would break free of this whole thing. I try
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  Speaker 1: to be a great single parent. I get my finances together.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be taking care of my kid. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: dating anybody, but we all know she is never alone. And,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's a mess. And if I was
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  Speaker 1: like a sister or a grandparent or something to the
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  Speaker 1: family that is now dating each of the Bermans, I
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  Speaker 1: would be like, are you fucking kidding me? Can you
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  Speaker 1: find a new boyfriend or a new girlfriend?
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Jay-Z, he decides who performs at the Super Bowl. And
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: TMZ said Jay-Z chose himself to be the 2027 Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl halftime show performer.
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  Speaker 2: I love Jay-Z music.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of controversy and conspiracy theories
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  Speaker 1: and shitty stories about Jay-Z from the elevator fight with
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  Speaker 1: But the guy has great music. And when you're watching
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  Speaker 1: And I think this will just be a great show.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it'll be a fabulous show. And because
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  Speaker 1: it's in LA and I'm an LA girl, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: about the entertainment. And I don't think there's anything wrong
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  Speaker 1: with choosing yourself. Let me tell you a little quick
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  Speaker 1: story about voting for yourself and why it's not the
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  Speaker 1: worst idea. In my Catholic school, there was a May procession.
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  Speaker 1: And everyone said, they said, vote for who you think
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  Speaker 1: should be Mary. And all the people that don't get
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  Speaker 1: to be Mary and have a few votes will get
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: but kind of be like a bridesmaid. And so I
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  Speaker 1: told all my good friends, cause everyone was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: And then the teacher was going through and counting them.
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  Speaker 1: And she was like, wow, I've never, and it was
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get to be one of them because I
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  Speaker 1: only voted for myself. And my other friends, they got
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  Speaker 1: behind my back and said, listen, do you want it
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  Speaker 1: a couple of my friends or maybe some of the
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  Speaker 1: guys voted for them. I can't remember if the guys
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  Speaker 1: voted or not.
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  Speaker 2: They probably did.
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  Speaker 1: we need to have as many eyes on it as possible.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: We need as many people.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Talking about it as possible.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: If some gorgeous model was wearing this bra that was
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: like Czechoslovakian or something, and we didn't know who she was,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: but she really is the most perfect specimen specimen.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: We wouldn't be talking about Victoria's Secret.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And Kylie looked great. And she, her sister, Kendall, was
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a Victoria's Secret model and wanted to be. And if
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you watch the old episodes of Kardashian, she wanted to
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: try to model too.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: And back then they weren't as famous.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't happening because Kylie wasn't as tall, doesn't
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: have that classic model body. And the reason models are
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: originally the classic model body, thin and tall, is because
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the fashion designers found that their clothes look the best
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: on thin, tall people. Not overly tall, not 6'2, 5'10.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: That's what their samples look the best on. And you
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: look at someone walking down and the trousers hang just
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: right and the shoulders are just right. And you go, wow,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I want to buy that. You don't realize that you're
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: 5'4 and, you know, not thin. And it probably won't
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: look like that on you, but it makes you want
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to look at it and try it on and buy it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That is why.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: However, the world has changed and the business has changed
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and we need influencers to sell our shit.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: And that's just the truth.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But my girl, Adrienne Curry, who was on Juicy Scoop,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: she's very outspoken. She was the main person from America's
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Top Model. She came from nothing. She became a model
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: because of that show. She was on many other reality
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: shows since that. She lives in Montana and she's really
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: great on social media. And she speaks the truth. And
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: oftentimes it's controversial in this day and age or It's
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: not totally politically correct. And so she talked about this
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and TMZ and all these people picked it up. And
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: this morning she, in the dark, she must've like woke
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: up and was like, I'm pissed. I'm going to talk
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: more about it. And she basically just said, look, I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: couldn't have been a Victoria's Secret model. I was not
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: at that level. And why is it that everybody has
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to be included in everything? Not everybody can be a quarterback.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I've said the same thing. Not everyone can be an astronaut,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that type of thing. Why can't we just have like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: this category of extremely good looking, tall, thin women still
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: be able to be supermodels in this day and age.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I think tall, thin, beautiful women will do fine in
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: this life. The industry has changed. I see what she's saying.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: But she just kind of was like, Kylie doesn't have
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: a model's body. She has a Carmen Electra body. Now,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: 15 years ago, you would say Carmen Electra is gorgeous,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: but you wouldn't say she is supermodel.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: She is fashion model material. But I feel like that's
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: gone away for a while.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: And also when girls really wanted to model and they
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: had the most beautiful face and they were only 5'6
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: or 5'7, it was unfortunate that they had to be
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: rejected from this. So now look 20 years later, that
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: beautiful girl who's 5'6, she can make money being an influencer.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: She can People will want her to wear their clothes
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: because she can literally sell it herself on her platform,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: social media platforms. So I appreciate Adrienne Curry's point of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: view and what she was getting across. And I also
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: can totally see by having Kylie, you got Timothee Chalamet
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in the audience. You've got Kris Jenner, you know, all
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of it. You have all of them supporting her. And
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I think it was all good. Also, Kim Kardashian showed
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: her Halloween costume, or one of them, and she dressed
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: up as North West with the blue hair and the grill,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and she was acting like her, going, ah, ah, ah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and doing that thing. And I really thought that's probably
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the best thing I've seen in her situation of mothering
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: a girl where she's being constantly criticized that this girl
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a childhood, that she shouldn't be out performing,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that she can't perform, that she has no rhythm. All
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the criticism and everything She is doing her thing. And
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a really great Halloween idea. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I would love to know how it came about. Back
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: in the day when I was friendly with Kim way
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: early on, they didn't even have the TV show yet.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And I was at her Dash store. Maybe the TV
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: show just started. And I said, Wonder Woman is the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: best Halloween costume. And she goes, oh my God, you're right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: And she opened up her side. It was like before
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Black Bear. It was called like a side piece or something.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And you could write little things in it. No, it
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: was called like a side something. And it was like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a little, and she put that in there. And then
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: months later she was Wonder Woman for Halloween, but she
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: wore black tights with it. And I always thought that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: was a weird choice, but I'm saying they were into
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the costumes and I just want to know when did
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: she think of it?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: And I think that was great.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: This is, this is good news. I believe it's strange news.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Christina Applegate, fabulous actress, child actress, you know, um, funny, lovely.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: She just announced on her podcast, which just returned, so
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: she saved this juicy scoop for her podcast on its
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: first episode, which she does with Jamie Lynn Sigler, famous
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: from The Sopranos, that after years of believing that she
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: was suffering from multiple sclerosis, she has now shockingly revealed
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that she doesn't have the disease. The doctor that diagnosed
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: her was like, hey, you don't have it. And I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: don't know what that means. A lot of people in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the comments are like, Christina, be checked for Lyme.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: What is this? It's very, I mean, I find it
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: very strange. This disease has been around a long time.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I would assume that someone at her.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Level would have access to all the best doctors, would
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: have access to so many other people that are connected
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to the best doctors that would be like, Christina, my
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: sister has MS. I want you to see this incredible
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: person in Canada or whatever. And that for all those
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: people that she saw couldn't, took five years in 2026
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to figure this out. So there's a lot of speculation
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: about what is this? I, you know, I'm not saying
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it's anything.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Munchausen-ish or anything like that. Okay. Lisa Rinna, I'm not
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: saying that. Okay. Yolanda, I'm not saying that. I'm just
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: saying this is crazy.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And I hope that With this new non-diagnosis, she goes
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a different route and can live a healthier life because
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: she walks with a cane. And, you know, anybody that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: knows someone with MS, it can move very rapidly or
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it can move very slowly. Everyone has a different journey
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and it's, but it's very debilitating. It's hard and it's
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: painful and sad. So we'll see. Also, Selma Blair, who
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: has MS, as you know, she freaked out on an
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: airplane and And she also did an interview before this
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: airplane incident on Jenny McCarthy's show.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And she said, I.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Was drinking a lot to numb the pain that I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was feeling from MS, but I didn't know I had
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: MS at the time.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And I never.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So I maybe went longer without being diagnosed, which is
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: just kind of interesting. Now you're like, well, maybe do
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you really have it?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Because... And then in an update.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: To her freakout, just to remind you guys, this happened
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: October 11th. She was arrested at JFK after the Delta flight.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: She punched one flight attendant and bit another. Then she
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: kicked a Port Authority officer and a hospital nurse after
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the plane landed. She was charged with two felony counts
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and a second degree assault. She pleaded not guilty on
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: October 12th. Bail was set at $ 20, 000 and she was released.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And there's also an order of protection for the nurse.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: She's afraid that she's going to come, the nurse is
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: afraid she's going to come after her. And her defense
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: is that she missed several doses of medication for serious
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: neurological symptoms, then fell and hit her head, which left.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Her severely confused.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: So FBI is still investigating and her next date is
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: January 19th, 2027. So it kind of makes you wonder,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was she drinking? Does she still have a drinking issue?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: She said in this interview that she doesn't drink anymore,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: which was, again, shot before this incident with Jenny McCarthy.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: So again, I hope that she gets the proper help
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: she needs. I hope we actually find out the truth.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: There have been incidents where she has bit people in
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the past. She has joked about it in her book
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that she would be at a party and then just
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: take someone's hand and bite them or bite their arm.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: when she's not drunk or high. She also was arrested
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: for misbehavior on a plane in 2016. And also, Christina
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Applegate and Selma Blair were in a movie together called
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: The Sweetest Thing like 20 years ago.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: So, 25 years ago. So, that's interesting.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, on Dancing with Stars, some Dancing with Stars news.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron from The Bachelor, he and his fiancee Tate
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Madden revealed her pregnancy, they're pregnant, on Dancing with the Stars.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't understand what happened. He has a partner, they're dancing.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: It was like a dedication episode where they first honored
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: his mother who had passed and then they're dancing. And
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: then at the end, I guess they switched partners or something.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And then his fiance comes out and then she reveals
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: her tummy. So a lot of people like Caitlin Bristow,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: who I follow, who is a former bachelorette, they all
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: are like friends. was like crying tears of joy. So
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: people that are aware of their relationship are really happy
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: about this. They got engaged back in August. So they
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: must have known they were pregnant then because she looks
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: quite showing.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: But that was cool.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And then this happened last week where the Dancing With
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Stars pro, Val Chermakoski, he was suspended for a week.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And I didn't understand what the story was, and I'll
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: tell you what happened. So his.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: real wife, was also Dancing with the Stars person. So
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: essentially they're competing against each other. And she and her
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: partner did a lift where the guy, the non-famous dancer,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: lifted her. And Cariana Nava said, criticized that lift. He
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: went on Twitter, Val, and said, ooh, I didn't like that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I was ready.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You're lucky that Fresh Prince of Bel-Air didn't come out
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: on stage. He removed that tweet. on X, shortly after.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But she, Karen Onaba, felt that was a threat to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: her because it was interpreted as keep my wife's name.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I get it. I get the joke. Okay.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: He was saying, you better keep my wife's name out
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of your mouth, joking, or I'll be like the fresh
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Prince of Bel-Air. Well, to remind you, that's when Fresh
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Prince of Bel-Air, who is Will Smith, got angry at
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Chris Rock during the Oscars because he made fun of
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett's shaved head by saying, are you going to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: be in the next G.I.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Jane?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden he started screaming from
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: his seat saying, keep my wife's mother effing name out
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of your mouth or something. And he got up on
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: stage and he really slapped Chris Rock.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: This wasn't great.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Cause I was doing a live juicy scoop at the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: time and brand improv and people were getting alerts on
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: their phone. And then I was like, okay, I think
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I need to address this. I couldn't believe it was
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: real anyway. Um, those two weirdos are still together. Talk
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: about a narcissistic, strange relationship. Um, Will and Jada. But
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: so she then went to HR. They suspended him for
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: a week. He did a public apology. Never should have
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: joked about that. I think there's just something so interesting
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: about when do you have to realize, like, you know what?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Why don't you just stay off social media when you
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: have a paid big ABC, Hulu, whatever, Disney job? Why
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: don't you just stick it to photos and like funny things?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Why don't you not like anything? Why don't you keep
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: yourself commenting? Why don't you just say the minute you
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: have a real job in which somebody else is paying
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you on TV, I would just go, dude, take this
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: as an opportunity of having more time off and stay
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: off of social media.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: So that was what happened there.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, a little more info
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: about the gorgeous brand and model. Bitch of Bravo found
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: this photo. in which he did a modeling shoot.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: With Luann de Lesseps. Money can't buy a class.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: And so I really think it's interesting that he worked
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: with Luann before as like a model. He's currently working
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: with Khloe Kardashian as a model doing her perfume ad.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And he also found his way into dating Bronwyn. So
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: this guy gets around. I thought that was kind of interesting.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And also speaking of Mormons, yes, we knew this was coming.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: It has now been announced and we got to see
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: a fun trailer. It's coming out, I think, early November,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: but it is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives OC.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: So a couple of the girls, Jen Affleck is kind
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of leading it and she meets these other girls and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: there's From what I can tell, there's polyamorous or a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: threesome relationship where none of them are going to church anymore.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Probably one is.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But anyway, one girl is like, I love you to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: her husband. And then she turns to another beautiful, white, long,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: luscious locks of hair, freshly scrubbed face and kisses it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And okay, so she's got a girlfriend. And then, you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: crying or getting divorced or sad.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: It looks good. It looks juicy as fuck. So that's happening.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Also, there's rumors that there's a real housewife of Houston
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: beginning filming in which a comedian, Gary Owens, who is
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a big comedian, his wife, I believe it's his second wife,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: she's a very pretty girl. They recently got married that,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and I went to look at their wedding pictures and everything,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: that supposedly she's going to be one of those real housewives.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I think that would be really kind of fun.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: That's something I'd like to see and kind of watch
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: that world.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: There's also talk that there is a Real Housewives of
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Nashville beginning. And the people on that is Hannah Brown
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: from Bachelor Nation, Holly Woodward.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know who that is.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Jordan Washburn and Jesse Decker. that they're supposedly doing, and
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: they're all young and gorgeous and seem to all have
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: some type of already following. So that's Real Housewives of Nashville,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: which they've tried to do for years. I know Josh Wolfe,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: my comedian friend, his wife, she put together a show
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: with Nashville women before to try to make a TV show.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't this housewife type of stuff.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: It was really like women helping women and they, you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: finding their way in their careers, whether it was music
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: or whatever in Nashville. And I was so excited for it,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: but it didn't go. So I think they've been trying
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to do something in Nashville for a while. And I
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: think it's a pretty great idea. Yeah. Okay, we also, also,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: oh my God, remember when I talked about Office Romance
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: and I ripped on that movie? Well, Jennifer Lopez is
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: casually dating her Office Romance co-star, Brett Goldstein.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It's on TMZ.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: And I just feel like we haven't heard from her
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: for a while. And to put out like a, have
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a statement go that they're casually dating and it was
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: like six months ago that this movie came out.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just weird. Maybe they really are.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not that interesting. The Golden Life
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: premiered last Tuesday night. Everybody doesn't know where to watch it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: E is not part of Peacock anymore. And it comes
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: on E on regular TV at 10 p.m., which the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: people watching it don't want to watch it at 10 p.m.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: So nobody knows where they can watch the rerun.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Or what?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: And I think that's going to be a problem or
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it's going to be great because it's going to be
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: people clamoring for it so much that they're going to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: figure out a way to get us to see it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I only got to see clips and Ramona was Ramona
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Ng and I love it. She had some event at
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like a store and someone was like, oh, hi Ramona.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And she was like, you know what? I don't know
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: who you are. Okay. I don't know you.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: This is all my really good friends. And that's why
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: they're here to like have something that I like to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: be with people I know. I don't know you were filming.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I really think, I really think, I
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: don't mean to be rude.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Okay. But I think you have to leave.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my God. But she has
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: always said she does not like people walking up to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: her asking for autographs. She's always like, you know, I
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: had a really great date with like a great guy.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I don't like it when somebody walks up to me
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and is like, Ramona, can I talk to you?
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you know what? You really can't. Okay?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: You can't because I'm having a lovely dinner with a
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: lovely gentleman and I don't want that bothering me. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: don't even want him to know that I'm famous. So
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I need to find this show. Someone tell me where
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: we can watch it. And good for all of them.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Sometimes upgrading your routine doesn't mean changing everything. It's just
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• 40:01
  Speaker 1: this interview with Dorothy Wang, formerly of Rich Kids at
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: We talk about that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: We talk about her ending of her friendship with Morgan
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Stewart and why. We talk about her wedding, so many things,
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  Speaker 1: bling empire, where she is today, having a billionaire dad,
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• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Dorothy Wang.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I have Dorothy Wang. You know her from Rich Kids
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills, but her latest endeavor is becoming a mother.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: She's with child, but also she's a newlywed and you
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: get to see that on her own show, which is
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Dorothy's I Do. And I'm so excited to finally talk
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: to you on Juicy Scoop. We've run into each other
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: over the years and you've never been on the show.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: So welcome. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here finally.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're in the news a lot right now
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: because you really share a lot on this YouTube show,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but it's a professional reality show, about going through your wedding.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: And I always think Wedding Talk is really interesting because—
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: if we haven't been through it, you kind of have
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: a fantasy of what you want, what you want your
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: wedding to be, or you've attended weddings and everyone's so
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: opinionated about it.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: And you come from incredible wealth.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: So my first question is, did you even, did you
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: have a budget for this wedding?
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a budget.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: We do, you know, and I, you know, what was
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: interesting is that, you know, I know that during wedding time, like,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: you know, you kind of sometimes go over budget or
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like, you extend your budget a little bit.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I realize I actually like having restriction and through my
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: dress process and just kind of like when they say like,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: sky's the limit, what do you want to do? That
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: stresses me out. I like to have a little bit
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: of restriction, whether it's time, whether it's budget, whether it's service,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: something to kind, or else it's just, it's like you
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: really feel like you're just floating and you have.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Nothing grounding you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: So the most stressful for me was when, especially for
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: some of my dresses, they said, we can design anything
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: you want.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, anything?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Like, so I actually, even though they said that, I
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: preferred to kind of try on a bunch of existing
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: dresses and then took my favorite parts and pieces from
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: existing dresses and said, okay, let's work with this as
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: a base and then add on instead of kind of
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: like creating something from my dreams. Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to step back a little bit on,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you know, how you got on TV. And so you're,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: you know, your father's a billionaire and you grew up
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: at Beverly Hills. Were you, you were born here or
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you guys came when you were a child?
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: My parents both moved to the U.S. when they were
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: going to grad school and then they met in Los Angeles.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: But my sister and I were both born in Los Angeles.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: And so what was that like when friends would find
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: out that you're not just another kid with a nice
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: McMansion in Beverly Hills?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: The wealth is beyond that. And how do you manage that?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: The thing is that when.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: We were growing up. We didn't really talk about money.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: We never talked about figures. It would be like we're
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: going to dad's grand opening of his gigantic department store
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: in China. And like now he's opening a second and
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: now there's a third and there's a fourth. And now
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: there's a hotel. You know, it was more business oriented. Like, oh,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: we're opening all these things. We have all these businesses.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: But it was never business. talked about money was never
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: talked about. And my mom definitely like she would give
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: us grief if we didn't go and actually drink like
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: the milk that you ordered for us at school for
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: like the daily $ 2. 50. So we were very grounded growing up.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: We were not wasteful. We definitely were not taught like,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: you know, you guys are rich and, you know, can
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: do anything.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I did not know.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't We never put a number on anything until
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Forbes did, freshman year in college. And they released my
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: father on the world billionaire list.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: And that was the first time. And where were you
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: a freshman in college at?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I was at SMU in Dallas, Texas. Yes. I decided
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I wanted to leave LA for a little bit and
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: try something different.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: So I went to Dallas, Texas.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: And that is when the first time there was a
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: number placed there. And I remember, I guess I must
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: have gone home or it was during winter break or
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: something because I just remember my dad on the phone screaming,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: threatening to sue Forbes. He doesn't want to be part
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: of this. How can you print my name without my,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: you know, and I remember it's just all public information
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: and they said that. But, you know, it was not
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: something that... he really necessarily wanted out there. I think
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: since then now, you know, he speaks at a lot
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: of the four conferences and, you know, he's gotten involved
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: in that. But in the beginning, it was not real. Just,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: you know, having the number out there and being on
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: the list was actually not something that he wanted.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: So was that weird?
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Like when you were suddenly like your college friends, were
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: you in a sorority, first of all?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I was not in a sorority.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: So were your college friends then? I think I tried
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: out for them. I don't think they understood me. And
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: I think at that time at SMU and in Texas,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I think people didn't understand, like, I'm this Asian girl,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: but grew up in Beverly Hills. And I'm Asian, but
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I like to go out. And it just wasn't, I
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: don't think they totally got me there. I eventually ended
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: up transferring to USC.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. And also, you know, I
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: know that now so many kids are going to Southern.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Schools and Texas schools. But even like 15 years ago,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it wasn't as common. And they even now it's like
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: my niece is at a Southern school with a big
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: sorority life. And I was like, well, you know, drop
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: that you. or an LA girl. And like, her aunt's
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: just me. Like, I'm like, and drop that, you know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: they can all stay at your house, you know, because
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: they live in La Quinta for Coachella.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Like I was like saying, and she was like, they
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: don't want LA people.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: They still want like the, oh, this girl went to
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: my high school and I know this person.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: And like, it's not like a coup at all.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: It's probably harder to break in there than if you,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: than at USC is my opinion. But, So eventually you left.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: So was it difficult, though, like with that news breaking out?
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Did you feel like there were like eyes on you
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: somehow or it didn't matter?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I don't... To be honest, I don't think anyone in
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Dallas was like.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: It seems like a very New York, L.A.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Kid.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone in Dallas was like checking
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: the Forbes 400 and seeing like which students' parents.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Were on there.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's more... prevalent I feel like in Beverly
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Hills that people found out and we knew or you
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: know were excited about it but I was always showing
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: things if that makes sense like department store opening new
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: bag new what you know what I mean so I
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: don't think it was like completely came out of nowhere
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I just think that we there was like a number
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: established to what people were seeing.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: And So when you then transferred to USC, were you
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: like in a beautiful apartment? I don't think you were
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: like living in a crowstorm with a random roommate. Like
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: what is it like for someone of that privilege when
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: you're in your 20s?
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Are you on a budget? Like how does that work?
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: I definitely was on a budget. It wasn't like my
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: parents were getting me an apartment at the Ritz, which,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: you know, later a lot of kids were doing. At
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: that time, the nicest apartment there was called the Tuscany.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: And it was a luxury style apartment. And I remember I,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: a girlfriend, we got a three bedroom apartment. My girlfriend
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: and I had two of the bedrooms. And then somehow
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: we were put into touch with little Romeo, who is
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: coming to play basketball next year.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He was our third roommate. How fun was that?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It was fun.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was very interesting. Sometimes we'd wake up
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: and Master P would be in our kitchen. We'd be like, oh, hi, P.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: And we'd go to class. But I think our apartment,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: we said, was pretty empty because we were LA kids
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: and we would always go home. But it was nice
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: for us to have the experience. And I know that
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: we would say, okay, this week, let's actually go to
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: the frats. Let's not go home. Let's go to the
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: football game. And once in a while, we still wanted
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: that experience, the college experience.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: But a lot of the times, you know.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: After school, we were going to Neiman's and Barney's and
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Jones on 3rd right away.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: And coming back to the city.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: And so when did the opportunity for Rich Kids of
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills come?
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: How old were you and how did it come about?
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: So when I was young, all through high school, I
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: was always very outgoing, very high-pitched voice, chitter-chatter, sharing everything
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: all the time. I think it started with Twitter. I
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: started tweeting things, and I noticed that people liked what.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I was tweeting.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: It would be like, Wednesdays are for diamond shopping with mother.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: It's like just random stuff and people just liked it.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: And then when Instagram came about and I got Instagram
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: and then there are now images with what I was
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: doing that got popular and they put me on this
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: site all the time called Rich Kids of Instagram that
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: was very popular then. So in my head, I was like, okay,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: like people seem there's interest there. And my whole life,
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I always, I watch reality shows. I always thought like, oh,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I could do that. Not that I was studying, but
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, like, okay, I have the, you know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: the life for that or the charisma for that.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: And so people always said, you should have a show,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: you should have a show.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: And then when I was in my senior year of college,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I got my real estate license. So I was actually
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: licensed at the agency with my best friend, Farrah.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. I didn't know that.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: So I was going to start working there. But at
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: the same time, I had been kind of selling... different
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: treatments and packages for shows to different networks and studios
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: and production companies. I remember for a while when it
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: was all about Ryan Seacrest Productions, I actually had pitched
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: a show to Ryan Seacrest Productions.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: And then they came back.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: And said they wanted us to be like assistants at
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: a pawn shop.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: And we're like, I don't think that really matches. So
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: then we moved on.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: And then eventually, actually, they were casting for a show
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: about kids in Los Angeles, or it was more like,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: I think it was more clubby, it was older than,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I think it was around 30s, we were only like mid-20s. And,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: but my friend actually was Justin Sylvester. He said, you know,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I heard they're casting for this, you should call in
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: and talk to them. And so- I joke now with
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: the casting director, Geron Ophir, that it took him seven
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: calls to finally call me back. Finally, I knocked his
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: door down. He called me back.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I was just like, hi, my name is Dorothy Wang.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I'm from Beverly Hills.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I have this friend who's dating this person secretly and
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: this and that. And he was just like, can you
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: guys come in tomorrow? So I created like a cast
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: out of my friends. Because I just knew kind of
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: what sold, what was interesting. So I knew which friends
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: had the personality, which ones had, you know, they had
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: a secret relationship no one knew about. They had history.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: So I put together my cast. I think originally my
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: show was called Lost Angeles because we were all 20-some-year-olds.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: exiting college, not sure what we're doing with our lives
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: and like being in Los Angeles and just kind of
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: floating around trying to figure it out.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And we went in for this casting. They put us
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: on tape.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: And I remember when I knew they were serious is
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: when they called us on Christmas Eve. Because if they're
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: working and looking at the tapes over a holiday and
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: they're not waiting until New Year's, like that means that,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: you know, they want to move on it.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Well, Los Angeles is a great name, but I also
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: know when I've like pitched things, how a city like
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills in the title and things like that, because
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world, when you say Beverly Hills,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: they immediately see that. And so it's a very good
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: marketing tool if it's in the title and things like that. So,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: but I do think Los Angeles could be... you know,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: a great title for a movie, a book, whatever.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: And I love the idea that you're in, it's, you know,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I always thought, I remember I wanted to like write
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: a movie called Six Years Out and it was six
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: years out from college.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Cause I felt like.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Around 28 is such like a pivotal time for a
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: group of friends of like.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Are you in the career that you want?
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Are you heading towards marriage, like, it's just kind of
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: an interesting time where it's like, are you still going
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: to the games every weekend or have you, like, moved
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: on or something?
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Transitional time.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: So, in pitching your group, was that, did you have
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Brendan Fitzpatrick and Morgan because they were already a couple,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Morgan Stewart?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: So, With Morgan, I had asked her because, you know,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: she had a big personality and she made it very
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: known she wants to be on TV.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: You also need to work with people who want to
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: do it. Right.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: And you can't really convince someone who's private to be
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: on something like this. So, yes, it was Morgan, me,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: and then I knew that Brendan and her were secretly dating.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I also was friends with Brendan for a long time.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Why were they secretly dating?
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Um.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Because, I don't.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Know, I think they came from two different friend groups. Oh, okay.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: And so no one had known that they had crossed
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: over into each other for a little bit.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Um, it was just early on. I think they hadn't
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: like gone public yet.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: And my friend Johnny Drew Bell, the only one from
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: the original Rich Kids cast that was not from me
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: was Roxy because Roxy and I actually went to USC
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: together and spring break senior year, we got into this
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: like massive fight. So I originally didn't want her to
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: be on. So I think when the producers knew that,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: they're like, let's call this girl. But she obviously was,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: you know, a great addition. Very, like, Beverly Hills, sparkly,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: fun girl. Um, and also then eventually came EJ. I
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: met EJ at a club.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: EJ Johnson, Magic Johnson's child.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Magic's son. And we met at Bootsy Bellows and he
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: was always fun. And one day I was in the club.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'm talking to E. He's like,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to E. I was like, should we like
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: mix shows? And then he said he agreed to come
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: on to our show.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. And so how many seasons did that do on E?
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: So that was four seasons. And why did it end?
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: You know, I think at the time, it's one of
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: those things where I felt like we were very maybe
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: underappreciated at the time. It was weird because I feel
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: like with the title, first of all, we had a
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: very kind of hot topic title that we hated. So
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: it was called The Rich Kids Part. Rich Kids of
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills. I remember when they announced the show title
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: to us, the first thing I said was, well, isn't
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: that redundant? Why do we have to put Rich and
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills in the same sentence? It's, you know, we're
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: stuffing it in their faces. So when you come out
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: with a title like that, people, you know, we did
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: have targets on our backs. I remember the first year
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: of press that we did, or, you know, I think
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: it was before the first season came out.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: It was rough. It was tough.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: And we just kept having to say, like, just watch
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: the show. You know, it wasn't about us flaunting our
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: wealth every day. Like, it was in the background. Like, oh,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: we're pulling up in this car. We're going here. But
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: we're not, like, sitting down talking about. And I think
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: it took, I saw a turn after the third episode.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: People were like, oh, these kids are funny. Like, oh, like,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I relate to them. They could be my friend. So,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: you know, we saw a turn in the tide. But
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: the first couple weeks were very difficult. And the show,
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: you know, I think in the beginning, it was really
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: marketed and supposed to be a bubbly buddy comedy where
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: it was like me and Morgan kind of buddy comedy
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: and ensemble cast fun and light.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: And I think.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Where it changed was then VH1 was doing these shows
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: that were a little bit darker and then they thought
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: maybe we should start doing stuff like that. And then,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: you know, of course, if part of the buddy comedy
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to film scenes and be a buddy comedy
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: with you anymore, like dynamics change, they want to bring
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: in new people. There's, you know, so I think it
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: just kind of lost its initial DNA.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: And at the time, I think the official reasoning from E!
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: was that, you know, the show was doing well. At
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: that point, we were ranked second after the Kardashians. And
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: they said that they had invested in a group of
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: girls who cost less than us and are willing to
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: do more. So they banked on this other show.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: What was that? It was called Wags. Oh, yeah, Wags.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: And they banked on that being a franchise. They wanted
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: that to be like Real Housewives.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: They thought that had a big longevity and it could
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: be in every city.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I can see.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: That that's very typical and also makes sense when.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: You're trying to. It's a business. It's called show business
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: for a reason, you know.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: And for us, what was a detriment to us was
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: that they did try to franchise Rich Kids at Beverly
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Hills in different locations. There was like a Miami. I
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: think they did a whole pilot presentation. But I mean,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: they did come back and just say it's not like
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: the original. And they tried to do it in the
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: UK and it didn't pan out. And I think, you know,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: they were really looking for something they could franchise. And
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: for some reason, Rich Kids was they just couldn't find
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: the right people or the right chemistry. and that ended
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: up you know, hurting us.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can totally that makes a lot of sense.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: So with Morgan, so you guys were good for a while.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: You were good.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: On the show that it was like, I mean, not
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: always there were you watch season I forgot season four,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: there was a revelation that.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Came out that she had spoken poorly of you.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she was referring to me as a racial
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: slur on set around, you.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Know, everyone. And that was true?
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, so then how did you address that with her?
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, we brought it up.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Obviously, everything gets bleeped out and censored. And at the time,
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: I think it was, how do you know or who
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: told you this? And I think, you know, and I
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: watch it back. And a lot of times when I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: watch things back at that age, my biggest dream is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: to go back in time to when I maybe wasn't
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: as confident or wasn't as strong. Because I do feel
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: like when you're on a show with big personalities who
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: can scream louder than you and be a little bit
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: more vicious than you, you're a little scared. You know,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: I was always tiptoeing around. I didn't know, you know,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: how they were going to react. So I brought it
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: up on the show and, you know, I think that she,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: she apologized and we tried to move on. And I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: know at the time she had her wedding coming up,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: I had a lot of pressure, unfortunately, from networks and producers,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: you know, a bunch of white people telling me like,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: move on and get over it. We have another show
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: to finish, you know, network wants you at that wedding. So,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: you know, I tried my best to move on. And
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: then there obviously is always like a, oh, but you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: can't say it's racist because that's so awkward for them,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: So I.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Think a lot of it kind of got demoted to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: a mean comment, not a racial comment.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: And it just, you know, and at the time, I think.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: It's interesting because what I've learned with filming is in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: the time, maybe the people around you trying to make
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: you feel something or you're overreacting. But when things air
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: and the public comments and they're like, what?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Not that you feel validated, but you feel like, wow,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: maybe I didn't overreact.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Or maybe I.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Actually wasn't allowed to.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: React how I should have or taken it as seriously
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: as it should, I should have. So that was kind
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: of always glazed over and like, are you going to
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: be at the wedding?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: And, you know, if.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Let's try to, you know, gloss over and tie it
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: up in a pretty ribbon at the end.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: So somehow you guys made it back. You were heading
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: towards your wedding. You were planning on including her. And
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: then you had this like very awkward dinner. And I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: think this is such an interesting subject to talk about
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: and very relatable because your wedding is, whether you have
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: a huge budget or a small budget, you hope that
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: it's only going to be your one wedding, right?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: And you want it to be great and you want
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the vibes to be perfect. And so can you just
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: sort of explain what made you go, I don't think
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: this is where it's at.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: And you chose to not invite her.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think starting when I had to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: gloss over things and forgive and, you know, be the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: bigger person, I think I kind of took that role.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: And over time, you know, obviously there are other things
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: leading up and I just always, you know, was the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: bigger person. Don't overthink it, you know, move on, move on,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: move on, move forward, move forward. And And, you know,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: then you hear other things and this and that. And
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: so there's already things brewing. And then two weeks before
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: the wedding, the last time you see them before the wedding,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: something else happens. And it's just, you know, the end
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: So was it like she thought she was going and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: she was there at like the pre-parties?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I gave notice. I gave notice after.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: No, I think it maybe was like two weeks, which
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: is short. But that was, you know, when after a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: bad experience occurred. So I just, you know, when it's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: your wedding, and I say this all the time, when
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: it's supposed to be the happiest moment in your life,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: you can really tell who's so happy for you.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: And you can just feel it.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: And the people who are not and the people that
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: don't have genuine intentions for you, they start acting weird.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Like they kind of show themselves. You know what I mean?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: They just, it sticks out like a sore thumb. You
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: feel the energy is off. They start maybe being extra
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: shy and extra mean to you and extra, you know,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: and then at a certain point, you know, for me,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: I think that I was, also with my culture and
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: just everything, just, you know, move on, be the bigger person,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: don't make a big deal out of it.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: But at a certain point- So how, what was it?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Was it like an email or a text or did
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: you pick up the phone?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, I sent a very long email, a very long,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: thorough email because I did feel like we do have history.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, some people say, you know, you should have
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: just been like, bye, you're not invited.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: But for me, I.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Felt like, you know, more was owed than just that.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: And I needed to kind of explain and, you know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: and it's not just this one night, but just over
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: time how it's been for the last 15 or maybe
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: 12 years.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: So, you know, I had something interesting like that happen
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: where a very good friend of mine, we just stopped
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: talking during COVID. It was over something dumb, but it
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: had been so many years since. And the fact that
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: neither of us ever picked up the phone again, I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: was like, huh. And then time kept going. And then
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: within the group, sometimes I would be part of a
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: group text or something. And then she got engaged and
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I did reach out. I was like, congratulations and everything.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: And then there were a couple little conversations here or there,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: funny about like, you know, sex in the city or,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and just like that or something. And I had a mutual,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: you know, some mutual friends that were like, you... you know,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: you guys need to make this better, like, because her
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: wedding's coming up. And I really said, listen, it's her
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: first wedding. She's an older bride. This is her wedding.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: And I feel like if I reach out now to
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: push to go, and it's me, and I've got the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: big personality, I'm a little bit famous, whatever. I'm like,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: maybe that's not the element she wants that day. And
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: maybe she's somewhat relieved that we are no longer close.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But I think she is the bride.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: She'd be the one that leads it.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: And I just didn't want anything to be coming back
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: on me that I pushed and I went.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: And that's very mature and thoughtful and kind of you
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: to do to kind of recognize that and how she
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: might be feeling. Yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: And it's been a few years since. And now we're
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: friendly within the group. We're never going to be what
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: we were. which I think is okay for both of us.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes friendships have, they say, a reason, a season,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: a lifetime. But I also feel that's a little too
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: cut and dry. I do think that there's times like
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a marriage that you're so close with your girlfriend and
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: you talk on the phone every day, every day, every day.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: And then when there's a break, you're like, wow, did
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: both of our lives just.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Improve during that break? Maybe we weren't good for each other.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe we all the talking was sort of a toxic
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: thing and it was neither one's fault, but like it
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't good. And maybe, you know, as long as it's like,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: you know, done in a classy way, maybe it will
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: take years and maybe it will be, you'll have a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: chuckle at, A dinner, you know, you'll be seen the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: next day and you'll have a great fucking time laughing
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: at this dinner three years from now.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: But you also won't call each other the next day.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: And it won't pick up again. But you can have.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: And I think that's something that not enough women discuss
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: because it is.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Very, you know, I mean, people get more.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Women, too, are more fascinated by best friends, especially somebody
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: that we see best friends on TV, you know, or
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: housewife best friends. People are more fascinated with celebrity female
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: best friends breaking up sometimes and why.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: And they're like, who did what and who said?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Then someone ending the marriage of 25 years with their
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: father or their four kids, they're like.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: You kick him to the curb, girl. Good for you.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: But when it's about women, they're like, what? How did
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: this happen? Yeah, what happened? And you're like, you know what?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Life happened. Life happened. And I realized like this.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: situation the way it is now is just not serving
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: either one of us to the best of our lives
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: going forward.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: And that's what I had put in my email as well. And,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: you know, it was very difficult and hard for me
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: because we had this public relationship, obviously. And part of
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: me doesn't want to let down the OG Rich Kids
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: fans who think that we're like besties and everything's good.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: But at a certain point, it just, you know, and
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: I hope and I said, I hope that one day
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: we could, you know, move forward authentically and genuinely. And
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: I wish her all the best. But I think we,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: you know, it's just, At some point, I had to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: take a stand. And I think going into a wedding,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: starting a life, now starting a family, you know, it
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: just at a certain point, like you're kind of left
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: with no. So much has happened that you're left with,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: you know, no other choice than to finally stick up
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: for yourself after all these years.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: And then when you did that and did that, when
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: you press send. Did you have more anxiety or like
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: a relief?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was anxious.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: No, it's scary. It's scary, obviously, to cut the cord
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: with someone, especially someone like that, I guess. And yeah,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: and you don't know. And you know that there's going
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: to be repercussions and it's going to make life more difficult.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: And people are going to be like, quote, stuck in
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: the middle and you're going to lose other friends because
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: of this. And now, you know. now instead of having
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: a secret enemy, you have a public enemy, I guess.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: That's also very interesting, too, when you reflect on something
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: like that. You're like, were you my frenemy?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Were you my frenemy?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: You enjoyed my personality and you found me funny, but
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: did you secretly resent and hate me? All that goes on,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa, what was the truth? And then
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: you're kind of like, but do I want to sit
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: down and find out the truth? I don't know that
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: I do. I don't think I do want to know
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: the truth. I think I just want to be free.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: And what I said is that, you know, a lot
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: of time to just feel you, it's as if I'm
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: a burden. And if I'm a burden onto someone, I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: have other things I can be doing. I don't need
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: to be burdening you with my personality and my time
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: and my efforts and my energy.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: So what was the response back, and how quickly did
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: it come back?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: There was no response back, which is kind of what
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: I expected, because I just know how she is, and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: there's not a lot of, I want to say, like,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: what would she respond back? Like, this is how I feel.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: You know, instead of responding back, actually, that week was spent...
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: grilling all of our mutual friends, asking who leaked what
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: to Dorothy?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: What does she know?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Because instead of, I guess, you could, how I feel
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: is if it was genuine and maybe it was a
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: misunderstanding and they are so confused what happened.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, how much can you tell me what the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: crux of it was?
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: You reach out.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: You would reach out and just be like, what happened?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: What was the crux of what you heard that was
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: such a turnoff?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: It was just the final straw of everything. It was
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: being mistreated in person. Well, I say on the show,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: you know, Months before, they invite me to a dinner
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: that happens to be two weeks before the wedding and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: asked me to, you know, oh, I'll send you product, blah, blah, blah,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: all this stuff. I wear the product. I go. And
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: it was very clear they wanted me there.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: For certain things.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: But then when it came to sit down, and there
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: are only four influencers there, you know, public people there,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: I was sat in the corner very far away from
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: everyone else that she didn't, they didn't want me to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: maybe be around or have also be associated with.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: And it just, you know, we know how these doors are.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: That happens too in Hollywood where it's like, they kind
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: of don't want you to connect with their people because
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: then opportunities and things could come for you.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: And I was also, I was friends with these people.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: But they wanted to invite them and become friends with them.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: And so curiously, I'm not, you know, it wasn't like
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Anna Wintour was there and I'm crying because I.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Was three seats over. You know what I mean?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Like, I know what would have been my natural seat,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: you know, and it was an empty seats and four
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: over from that. Yeah. You know, and then so then
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: it's and it's here's the thing. It's not the biggest
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: thing in the world, but it was just the final thing.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Right. For me.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: And, and just wanting me there for the, but then
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: also keeping me away, keeping me in my place and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: that whole thing. It just also like you, I don't know.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: I also think that I've been in New York for
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: four years and people here do not play these fake
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: LA games like that. If you like someone, you invite them.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: If you like someone, you see them. So my relationships
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: since I've moved here have been very honest, very direct,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: very intentional. Because people here are busy. They have no
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: time to be playing these things. If they make time
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: to see you, they actually want you there. I feel like, no,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: I don't want to generalize everyone in LA, but I
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: find it's a little bit more LA of a characteristic
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: to be a little bit more facade-y and want to
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: keep a connection without actually liking the person or wanting
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: to be around them.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: So true.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Really true. Really true.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: And I mean, what did you think when you heard
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: the news of Brendan Fitzpatrick and his the lawsuit involving
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: accusing of an $ 80 million Ponzi scheme.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: I was shocked.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: I was not to sound mean, but I'm out. I'm
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: shocked who would invest $ 80 million with that was mine.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: How did he find so many people to give him an,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: to give him investments?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like I, I, It's
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: a couple different things.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: There's the $ 80 million Ponzi scheme. Then there's like this
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Greek hotel.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a $ 280 million thing. So from my experience
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: with Brendan, he was always very nice, very funny, kind, silly.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: I did not.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Know him to be a businessman.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: I did not know him to be someone who I
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: would invest money in or take financial advice or, you know.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: So I'm surprised, honestly, that these figures are so large
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: and he was able to find so many people to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: invest with him.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always very fast.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: I feel like this person that I, you know, read
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: about now is not the Brendan. I was very close
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: with Brendan for my 20s before, you know, in my
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: early 20s, probably for 10 years. And then obviously when,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: you know, they divorced and then he got remarried and
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: he moved, you know, we kind of felt. But you
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: still feel like, you know, the person would be the
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: same person. But to me, what I'm reading now is crazy. Yes.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: So how did you meet your husband? I met Brandon.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Now I'm saying Brandon. Oh, my God.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: I met Brandon yesterday.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: In New York, my first Halloween in the city.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: So I moved into January and I met him in
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: October of 2022, I believe.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: I'm really bad with years. So yeah, 2022, I think.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: And we met at a Halloween party, but he was
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: always friends with some of my girlfriends. I would hear
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: his name. They'd say, oh, I wonder what Brandon's doing tonight.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: And I've never met him before. And what was cute
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: was that we were all going to be together upstairs,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: but him and I actually met on our own first
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: going up the elevators. And I didn't know that was
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: my friend's friend, Brandon. And he didn't know that that
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: was his friend's friend, Dorothy. And we kind of connected
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: and he asked me if I wanted a drink and
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: we were getting a drink. And then all of our
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: mutual friends came over and said, how did you guys
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: know each other? And I said, how did you know?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: How do you know this random man I just met downstairs?
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: So it's sweet that we, you know, kind of met
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: on our own.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: And so I think it's great that we get to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: watch your wedding and the ups and the downs and
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: the things that didn't work out. I want people to
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: go watch it because I do think it's very entertaining
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: and I think you did it well. And, you know,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: in between Rich Kids and Dorothy, I Do, which is
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: your own production, you were part of Netflix's Bling, what's
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: it called?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Empire Bling. Wait, Bling Empire.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: They started off in L.A. and then you kind of
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: joined the New York version. And how was that experience?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: That experience was very different for me than Rich Kids.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: I think being with E! and NBC and our production company,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: I always appreciated the production company, but I really didn't.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: When joining something like Bling Empire, I realized how much
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: our production team really cared and how much the network cared.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: I think with Netflix, they are a big company with
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: many shows. They're more of like a content hub that
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: they're just cranking out content. So it was a different experience.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: It's like six weeks filming and this and that. You
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: don't really meet the executives. It's just kind of like
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: churned out. So it was very fast paced. And it
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: was a little bit different of an experience for me.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: So So you were glad it ended or you're okay
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: with it ending? No, I think.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: With Netflix, the viewership is, you know, undeniable.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: And way more, even more international than E. Yes, yes.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: And I think with E, you know, we were used to,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: you know, they wanted to create something that went on
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: for a longer time. I think Netflix, they don't actually
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: want you to go back and watch it again.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: They want you to move on to the next thing.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: So it's very like when it's your when it's your
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: week to debut, you like hear from them. And but
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: after that, it's like, you know, there's not a lot of.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the biggest the biggest difference between your
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: two reality show things, too, is it was week to week.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Like you said, you had to wait another week. What's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: going to happen next on E!, And with the Hulu
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: shows and the Netflix reality show, like Secret Lives and whatnot,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: we get it all to binge. And sometimes as someone
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: who covers things, I don't really like that because I
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: like to cover something and I like to have it
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: piecemeal and I like to kind of go, what's going
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: to happen next? And so it's like, if I get
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: really into it, And it's hard for me to find,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: you know, seven hours to binge a whole thing.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Yes. And then it is over.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: And then you're it's sort of out of the zeitgeist
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: about two weeks out.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: So it's a very different like press cycle, social media
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: cycle for the reality star.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: So for Dorothy's I Do, which we put on YouTube,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: we actually did two episodes and each episode is like
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: 30 minutes or so.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: We released two episodes.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Next Sunday, two episodes and then finale episode the following Sunday.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: So we had like a three week little run, but
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: we released two episodes per week until the finale.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: And how was that process? Did you enjoy it?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Do you want to share more of your life being
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: that now you are pregnant.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Congrats. Thank you.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: So for this project, you know, I've always been just
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: talent for hire.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I would be very involved in production.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: By the end of the day, I had no control,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: no ownership, no say really. So for this, you know,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: my husband, he actually is very private. I think he
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: probably would have never guessed that he would sign off
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: to be part of this or, you know, partnering to
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: produce this. But, he would see that, you know, people,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: when we were walking around in Soho, everyone would be.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Like, Dorothy, we miss you.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: Give us something. And, you know, he did, after we
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: got engaged and were planning the wedding, he said, you know,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: is this something that you would like to document and
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: share with everyone.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, you never ask. But like,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: But, you know, he said, let's do it in the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: right way. Let's create it ourselves. We can start our
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: own production company.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: You know, we....
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: Wanted to be on YouTube because, first of all, I've
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: been in this game for long enough where I know
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: if we had approached a network and said, oh, we're
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: doing a wedding show, they're going to say, okay, we
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: need three fights, your mom seven times, who's going to
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: be your co-star?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of mandates, right?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: That for this, we didn't really want to feel forced or,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: you know, have.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: Too many opinions and things we had to do.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Because this is also, it's our wedding. It's sacred to us.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: We want to.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: Tell it how it actually happens and not have this,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of like falsified manufactured production. Because for
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: me with the reality shows, I hated the fighting.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: It was not my forte.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: I hated doing it. And it just, you know, is
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: not me.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: That is something that we felt that, you know, was missing.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's really interesting that you said that. Like,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: I knew if I went to a production company that
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: those would be the mandates. And I think as people
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: that are connoisseurs of reality TV, not just television, people
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: have worked in television, but a lot of the audience
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: is getting kind of tired of that formula. And I
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: think there is going to be a move to something
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: a little different. Real drama is real drama is very
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: interesting when a marriage breaks up or when two girlfriends
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: no longer are on the same page.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Things like that are very compelling, very real life.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: But when you're watching something and you're like fighting about,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: When you're at a big dinner table and someone stirs
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: the pot and spills the tea.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: And someone has to say, well, so and so said
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: that you said this in the car ride over.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: And you're like, we know why.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: You split the four, you know, four people into two
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: different cars just for this.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: And it just feels like, ugh. So I love that
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: you did this. Thank you so much for coming on
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoop. How far along are you?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: I am 17 weeks.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: So I think that's a little bit over three and
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: a half months. And when was your actual wedding day?
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: My actual wedding was a little bit over a year ago.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: So it was October 11, 2025.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: So you did marry as a virgin. This pregnancy came
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: after the wedding day.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: That's what we need for sure. Do you know what you're,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: have you told us what you're having or that's all
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: a secret? We actually, our goal, we filmed something for YouTube.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, good.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: So you know. You know.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: I know. Yes.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool. We just did it. We just found out.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, well, tell everybody where they can
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: follow you and all of that.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: So Dorothy's I Do, our five-part wedding special is on YouTube.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: And I'm on Instagram and TikTok. Oh, and Threads recently.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: Just your name, Dorothy Wang. Yeah. Perfect.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: This was so fun. Thank you for being so frank
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: and honest. I feel like I'm just excited for your future.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: And it was really great to finally get to have
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: this moment to.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: Talk to you. Thank you. Long overdue. Yes. Thank you.
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