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Who will lead the team in tackles Sunday? | Jags Drive Time: Thursday, October 20 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Solo, John Oceans,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sex, Jags Drive Time when it starts right now,
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Speaker 1: and I was caught dancing to the music that never
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Speaker 1: happens with the jaguarys Drive Time on a Thursday morning. Ashlen,
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Speaker 1: Brian and John here with you on a crisp fall day.
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Speaker 1: John has cinnamon in his coffee. We're in a fantastic
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Speaker 1: mood getting ready for the Jaguars game against the Giants
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Did you want her to tell people? Then?
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Speaker 1: Brian and I were dance completely right a left. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we all dance and it's never on camera. Now a
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Speaker 1: great TV secret is revealed, crossed off the list, you'd
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Speaker 1: be careful who's back there? Directed Yes, the man that
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Speaker 1: controls the buttons has all the power. We've learned that absolutely.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into big things, shall we as
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Speaker 1: we get ready for Sunday's home game. Big Thing one
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Speaker 1: is a copycat lead. No secret here. The corners will
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Speaker 1: be targeted on Sunday against the Giants, especially with the
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Speaker 1: past defense struggling as bad as a dinner Indian for
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Speaker 1: list they put it on tape. We know the corners
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Speaker 1: will be targeted here on Sunday, giving up way too
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Speaker 1: many big plays last week, Coach Peterson, And how you
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Speaker 1: get the past defense fix quickly? Yeah, I think I
1:12
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit all that, quite honestly. Um,
1:15
Speaker 1: you know, if if we if we play man coverage,
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Speaker 1: we gotta play man coverage, right, we we can't, um,
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Speaker 1: we can't give so much free access sometimes, you know,
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Speaker 1: And now I'll say that to say this, that teams
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Speaker 1: scheme man coverage. Right, you're getting bunches, you're getting stacks.
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Speaker 1: It's a way to draw you know, picks and allow
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Speaker 1: guys to to get open. And now you're in a
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Speaker 1: trail position as a dB, and it's hard, it's extremely hard,
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Speaker 1: and and um, but to do the best you can
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Speaker 1: you can. Obviously you can mix you know, maybe some
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Speaker 1: zone in there, you know, from time to time. But
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Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, we we ask our
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Speaker 1: guys to do a lot. We challenge them, you know,
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Speaker 1: some of the veteran players, and and uh and somewhere
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Speaker 1: we gotta just make it play, you know, and and
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Speaker 1: and as coaches, you know, we gotta make sure we're
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Speaker 1: doing the right thing too, and and putting our players
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Speaker 1: in position to successful. Big thing to say. Kwon Barkeley
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Speaker 1: Swan is one of the best running backs in the league.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars the top three run defense right now, only
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Speaker 1: giving up on average eighty nine yards per game. But
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Speaker 1: Barkeley is a different running back throan the Jaguars have
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Speaker 1: seen so far this season. Listen, we need you know,
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Speaker 1: we need all hands on deck with with Sa Kwan.
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Speaker 1: I've watched this guy for you know, many years. Uh
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Speaker 1: run all over us. And you know he's one of
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Speaker 1: those backs where it's like you get two, you get three,
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Speaker 1: you get one lost maybe a lost artist place, and
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Speaker 1: then bank he'll hit you for fifty. I mean that's
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Speaker 1: just the type of back he is. He's in He's
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Speaker 1: an explosive running back. Um, he's a downhill guy. He's
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Speaker 1: got speed to circle the defense. I mean, he's just
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Speaker 1: a complete guy that you're seeing him, you know, out
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Speaker 1: of the backfield to make make plays there. So um,
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Speaker 1: having having some bigger guys, you know, I fully could go,
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Speaker 1: um just help you know, anchor in the in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the run defense and and uh, but with
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Speaker 1: a guy like you know, say and you got to
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Speaker 1: make sure you can get them on the ground and Finally,
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Speaker 1: big thing three is close. The Giants and the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: were in similar situations this offseason, both with new coaching
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Speaker 1: staffs and both not living up to expectations the past
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Speaker 1: couple of seasons. But there is one big difference between
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Speaker 1: a two win team and a five win team like
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Speaker 1: the Giants. There are a lot of similarities, you know,
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Speaker 1: when you look at the scoring, you know, you look
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Speaker 1: at scoring the quarter, there's a lot of a lot
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Speaker 1: of similarities. They're both teams. I think. I think the
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Speaker 1: number one thing that that we just have to focus
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Speaker 1: on is us, you know, and making sure that you know,
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Speaker 1: we make plays in fourth in the fourth quarter, and
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Speaker 1: we haven't done that well enough, you know this year,
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Speaker 1: were consistent enough, you know where where they are and
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Speaker 1: and um, you know they're they're making those plays. They're
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Speaker 1: in the right spot at the right time. And you know,
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of way this league goes. Sometimes the
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Speaker 1: ball bounces in your favor and and and give them credit,
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Speaker 1: they're they're in the right position to make those plays. Um.
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Speaker 1: And that's something that you know each week that we
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Speaker 1: we learned from ours and you know, try to be
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Speaker 1: in position we each week to you know, to come
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Speaker 1: up with the ball or to make them play that
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Speaker 1: that wins at the game, and they had it. Those
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Speaker 1: are big things. I thought Big Thing three was incredibly
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Speaker 1: interesting with Coach Peterson noticing that big difference. And we
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Speaker 1: talked to Evan Ingram in the locker room yesterday and
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Speaker 1: he can speak on experience of what the Giants went
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Speaker 1: through last year, but he said the exact same thing.
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Speaker 1: Coach Peterson said the Giants last year, we're losing those
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Speaker 1: annoyingly close games. And then Evan Ingram said, you could
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Speaker 1: feel it on the horizon they were going to at
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Speaker 1: some point go over the border and win the close games.
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Speaker 1: And that's what is happening this season. Well, and we
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Speaker 1: talked about it the other day. You know, you go
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Speaker 1: from losing big to losing small, two winning small, and
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Speaker 1: rarely in this league do you win big and sometimes
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Speaker 1: you tie. Maybe we'll get to that point Texans on
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Speaker 1: that one. But what the what the Giants have figured
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Speaker 1: out is how to win close games, and this team
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Speaker 1: still has not. I think too the Giants have a
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Speaker 1: elite m VP player on their team, and say Kwan
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Speaker 1: Barkley in the red zone. That helps a great deal.
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Speaker 1: You have to focus on him and either get him
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Speaker 1: the ball or you do something off of him. It
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Speaker 1: helps to have a big timereaker. I still think that's
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Speaker 1: what the Jaguars are trying to get to. And d
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is in his uh his fourth year. You know,
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Speaker 1: a little more experience at quarterback can help in those
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Speaker 1: big play, big game situations, and they've gotten breaks well.
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Speaker 1: And told us yesterday that the guy who's made the
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Speaker 1: difference is Jones is the one who's really figured it
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Speaker 1: out right. I mean, he's the guy who all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden understands how to be judicious with the ball
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Speaker 1: and not just chuck it up into the end zone.
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Speaker 1: He's being smart. He only has five touchdown passes, but
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Speaker 1: he also only has two interceptions. And here's the important part.
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Speaker 1: He's completing six of his passes, which means that he's
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Speaker 1: making good decisions, he's keeping drives alive, and they're finding
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Speaker 1: ways to score. So Barkley makes all of that happen. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: he's that star player, but he's a running back. You
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Speaker 1: knew he was going to be the quarterback. Jones, according
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Speaker 1: to people in New York, is the guy who's flipped
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Speaker 1: switch this year, and you're right, he was what the
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Speaker 1: eighth pick overall in so it's taking him a little
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Speaker 1: while to figure it out. And you know, he's got
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Speaker 1: a coach who has a reputation for developing young quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen, so they are a team that's kind
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Speaker 1: of figured things out. I want to go back up
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Speaker 1: to number one. And that is the issue at cornerback
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Speaker 1: this week because you know, look, Jack's want to crowd
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Speaker 1: the box, right, they want to make it tough to
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Speaker 1: find running room. So if you're the Giants, what do
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Speaker 1: you do. Let's spread them out right and let's go
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Speaker 1: to the quick, short passing game because they couldn't stop
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Speaker 1: it last week, which means you're gonna have to be
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Speaker 1: able to stop it. And Shack Griffin is on the
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Speaker 1: injury report with a back. Um, it would sure seem
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Speaker 1: to me like I'm ty hern is gonna be there
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. I mean just that that that you don't
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Speaker 1: have to read the tea lea, you can see this
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Speaker 1: one coming. Um. Now, Shaq has the highest salary cap
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Speaker 1: figure for this team this year. It's over sixteen million,
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Speaker 1: that number one. So it's not like you're going to
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Speaker 1: replace him for the rest of the season. Um, but this,
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Speaker 1: how he responds to this is going to be a story, right,
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Speaker 1: how Herndon does and how Griffin responds is going to
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Speaker 1: be a big story as to how this game goes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that the Giants are going to go
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Speaker 1: as I mean, they'll spread out in there and they'll test.
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Speaker 1: I think a big factor in this game is going
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Speaker 1: to be Often when conference teams from other conferences play
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Speaker 1: each other, they stick to what they do because they
7:29
Speaker 1: haven't scouted the other team quite as much. I think
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Speaker 1: the Giants are a team that does what that is
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Speaker 1: going to do what they do. I think they will
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Speaker 1: pound the run. I don't know that they believe necessarily
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Speaker 1: that the Jaguars are a great run defense. I think
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Speaker 1: some of the Jaguars stats in the run defenses because
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Speaker 1: they were so far ahead and in there's two wins.
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Speaker 1: So I agree with Brian. They're gonna get tested. I
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Speaker 1: don't know Shack's gonna play or not. That's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a story to try and make you stop Barkley with
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Speaker 1: seven right when you want to stop him with eight,
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Speaker 1: And if they can effectively move the ball in the
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Speaker 1: short passing game. You gotta take a safety out, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's all it takes. You're jack taking away one guy
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Speaker 1: and it does sound like shat. Griffin most likely will
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Speaker 1: not play on Sunday. He said this back injury is
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Speaker 1: something he's had since training camp and has just been
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Speaker 1: nursing it. Yeah, it just seems like you were talking
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Speaker 1: about it anyway now with an injury. All right, Trey
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Speaker 1: hern And let's see what you can do this week.
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Speaker 1: Nothing permanent, but make it change. You've got to change
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Speaker 1: the result because that guy he hits you like Derrick Henry,
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Speaker 1: but he's got the wiggle and the explosiveness to get
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Speaker 1: through the hole like a Dalvin Cook. You need eight
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Speaker 1: guys in the box, absolutely right, and that is big
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Speaker 1: and his time for Around the Locker Room in there
8:58
Speaker 1: yesterday a lot going, honest. The Jaguars get ready for
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Speaker 1: the Giants of five and one team in Jacksonville on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: and a major storyline. The biggest storyline this week is
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Speaker 1: the struggle of Shack Griffin last week against the Colts
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Speaker 1: and what will the Jaguars do well. Shack Griffin, we
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Speaker 1: just found out, is dealing with an injury, so let's
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Speaker 1: hear from him in the law. Love that injury, says Camp.
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Speaker 1: So it's been a day days we do week talk
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Speaker 1: the process, so something we canna be worse than others,
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Speaker 1: but uh, you just gotta continue to learn how to
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Speaker 1: maintain the wind right so I can make it the
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Speaker 1: game day. All right. There you have it, dealing with
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Speaker 1: a back injury. It something we didn't know about since
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Speaker 1: training camp. But that's that's pretty common. Guys are nursing
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Speaker 1: things that just keep coming up and you move past
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Speaker 1: it week to week. But yeah, it sounds like this
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Speaker 1: is the reason that Chack Griffin will not play on
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Speaker 1: Sunday and Tray Hernan goes in good chance. I mean,
9:49
Speaker 1: it's it's it's certainly. It'sertainly seems that way. And I
9:52
Speaker 1: just to clarify, if a guy can practice, then he's
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Speaker 1: technically not injured according to the NFL. So why you
10:00
Speaker 1: often here guys talk about well, my knees this. But
10:03
Speaker 1: if they're practicing, if you listed every guy whose ankle
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Speaker 1: sort of hurt, you would have a fifty three man
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Speaker 1: injury port every week. So that's the reason for that.
10:15
Speaker 1: If people are wondering, yes, he did not practice yesterday,
10:17
Speaker 1: was working off to the side. We'll see if he's
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Speaker 1: practicing today. But yeah, a lot of questions at that
10:21
Speaker 1: cornerback position. Maybe this is the answer, Brian Well, it
10:25
Speaker 1: has to There has to be something, you know, And
10:27
Speaker 1: I remember on Monday night Brandon's daily put eighty two
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Speaker 1: and a half million dollars and four games, right, that's
10:34
Speaker 1: all j C. Jackson played on the side link. It's
10:36
Speaker 1: not gonna be there all year long. You don't make
10:38
Speaker 1: that kind of investment in bail in four games. But
10:41
Speaker 1: he made it, and he told the media in Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles he did because he had to change the trajectory
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Speaker 1: of the defense. It was so on the down hill slide.
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Speaker 1: He changed it. It worked. We'll see how it works there.
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Speaker 1: I think that's what Doug Peterson and Mike Caldwell have
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Speaker 1: to discuss this week is can we change the way
10:58
Speaker 1: we're playing If we put thirty seventy and he stay
11:01
Speaker 1: of twenty six this week, A lot of questions, A
11:03
Speaker 1: big storyline this week. Another big storyline is always going
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Speaker 1: to beat Quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Coming off a game where
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Speaker 1: he put up twenty seven points and lead a fourth
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Speaker 1: quarter drive. His confidence is growing. That is clear. I've
11:14
Speaker 1: had all these opportunities for a reason, and you know,
11:17
Speaker 1: I feel really confident in that and just that's what's
11:20
Speaker 1: That's what's helped me keep pressing forward, whether it's you know,
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Speaker 1: great game, really bad game, great season, bad season, um,
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Speaker 1: just continuing to be myself and and just trust that.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of helped me whether the
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Speaker 1: storm a little bit because honestly, I haven't been challenged
11:34
Speaker 1: too much as far as my confidence until really get
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Speaker 1: into the NFL. Things have gone pretty smoothly in my career.
11:39
Speaker 1: I've had some a little a few bumps in the road,
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Speaker 1: but um, really last year was was challenging. So I
11:45
Speaker 1: think from that experience it's helped me a lot. You know,
11:47
Speaker 1: we started, you know right now we're two and four.
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Speaker 1: I think we're a really good team, um, and we've
11:53
Speaker 1: lost a lot of games that we're that close, we're
11:55
Speaker 1: that close to being a five and one even possibly
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Speaker 1: a six and o team and just understanding that and
12:00
Speaker 1: that doesn't really matter to anyone else but for us,
12:02
Speaker 1: I mean, we have confidence in who we can be
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Speaker 1: and um, we just got to go make those plays
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Speaker 1: to finish those games. But we we have a lot
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Speaker 1: of confidence. And I guess my point was going through
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Speaker 1: the year like last year, he gives me a great
12:15
Speaker 1: perspective when how we started this season kind of ups
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Speaker 1: and the downs. We've had some games where he played great,
12:20
Speaker 1: some games where we haven't played great, and just being
12:22
Speaker 1: able to stay locked in laser focused on the next
12:25
Speaker 1: week and realizing we still have eleven more games and
12:28
Speaker 1: all the opportunities in front of us to do what
12:29
Speaker 1: we want to do. Quarterback Trevor Lawrence on his confidence.
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Speaker 1: That was really one of the first times he opened
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Speaker 1: up about the struggles of last year John and how
12:38
Speaker 1: it's helping him right now in this season. Yeah. I
12:40
Speaker 1: kind of laughed. He used the old my point and
12:42
Speaker 1: I do have one, uh old Ellen. He was an
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Speaker 1: Ellen I generous line. Um, I think he deserves some
12:50
Speaker 1: credit for last Sunday that maybe people I know we're
12:53
Speaker 1: talking about it. I got to know his own email
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Speaker 1: saying well, they mostly ran on that drive. Why does
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Speaker 1: he credit for that last drive? He ran for three
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Speaker 1: of those well, and because he would have gotten blamed
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Speaker 1: if he's thrown a pick. You know, if he gets
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Speaker 1: the blame for not scoring, then the quarterback. I thought
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Speaker 1: he was composed in that. I thought a lot of
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Speaker 1: things came together in terms of his leadership. When you
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Speaker 1: talk to guys who were in the huddle, they talked
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Speaker 1: about that element that matters very much in those situations.
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Speaker 1: It feels like this team believes in him, and they
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Speaker 1: now believe in him in a different situation. He's my
13:31
Speaker 1: h three, as we call it around here. I want
13:33
Speaker 1: completely burn it. But yeah, I I wrote that was
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Speaker 1: the reason why I left that game with such optimism. Look,
13:39
Speaker 1: I mean three and three would be so much better
13:41
Speaker 1: for the franchise to be able to sell the game
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Speaker 1: that's coming up the next week and build all the energy.
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Speaker 1: But it's bummed out as you are about the way
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Speaker 1: that it ended to watch that eight fourth quarter right
13:53
Speaker 1: go back first drive at the third quarter. They had
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Speaker 1: given up ten points at the end of the half.
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Speaker 1: They needed something to re establish themselves right down the field,
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Speaker 1: right and he runs it in then fourth quarter. You're
14:04
Speaker 1: you're in a position where you need a score, and
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Speaker 1: you go and get one, and it takes eighteen plays
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Speaker 1: and ten minutes off the clock. You know why he
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Speaker 1: deserves credit. He was five or five with a couple
14:15
Speaker 1: of really nice throws on there, one in particular to
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Speaker 1: say Jones, and he ran three times for three first downs.
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Speaker 1: He deserves the credit for that drive. And then he
14:23
Speaker 1: finished it off. Um to me, that was a turning
14:26
Speaker 1: point in this season. I believe that we'll see if
14:29
Speaker 1: it plays out in the next couple of weeks, but
14:31
Speaker 1: I think we'll go back to that eighteen play drive
14:34
Speaker 1: over and over, not just this year, but next year ago.
14:36
Speaker 1: That's where it changed. Yeah, and now and now the
14:38
Speaker 1: question is the consistency, right, because we've seen these drives before,
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Speaker 1: and then we've seen a game the next week where
14:43
Speaker 1: he struggles and thest that back and forth that can
14:45
Speaker 1: drive you crazy. So now for the Giants on Sunday,
14:47
Speaker 1: I don't want to say you want to see him
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Speaker 1: do that again, but you'd like to see something close, right.
14:50
Speaker 1: You don't want to have to see him have an
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Speaker 1: eight team play fourth quarter drive, come from behind three
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Speaker 1: three three. I just say one more time. It's all
15:02
Speaker 1: about you. I think that's the moment. We always go
15:04
Speaker 1: back and look at that nineties six team and we
15:06
Speaker 1: talk about the game in Baltimore, Um that they won
15:09
Speaker 1: that started the winning street there seven game winning streak. Um.
15:11
Speaker 1: I don't know that this starts a seven game winning streak,
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Speaker 1: but this is where things turn all right, tight tight,
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Speaker 1: and Evan Ingram in the locker room speaking of experience
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Speaker 1: on how the Giants shifted from a losing team to
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Speaker 1: a five and one team this season and how the
15:23
Speaker 1: Jaguars can get there. You're really on team Uh, and
15:27
Speaker 1: there's there's growing things. We have such a high expectation
15:31
Speaker 1: for ourselves and our team, and we expect ourselves to
15:33
Speaker 1: get there now. But reality is we're two and four
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Speaker 1: and we dropped someone that we know that we should
15:38
Speaker 1: have had, so UM. It's learning is growing um, and
15:41
Speaker 1: then you know there's there's gonna come a point in
15:43
Speaker 1: the time when we've learned enough and we all come
15:45
Speaker 1: together and we make a complete team win. You got
15:48
Speaker 1: that vibe from talking to players. That's been the mest
15:50
Speaker 1: of the past couple of weeks. As we're learning, we're growing,
15:52
Speaker 1: we have lessons to learn this week, multiple players said,
15:55
Speaker 1: all right, we've learned enough. It's time to go over
15:57
Speaker 1: the hump. We've got learned the lessons of the losses.
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Speaker 1: Time to move on. I really like talking to Evan Ingram.
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Speaker 1: He has such a calm demeanor and such a thorough
16:04
Speaker 1: understanding not just of of the offense, but of the
16:08
Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah. Sure, and he's got great perspective. He's right,
16:12
Speaker 1: he's a little fired up this week too. Everybody he's
16:15
Speaker 1: getting a phone call, yeah, he will, He will certainly
16:20
Speaker 1: be getting a letter. Yes, But I will say we
16:22
Speaker 1: asked e An Ingram, um about this, this rematch game,
16:24
Speaker 1: this rivalry game against the Giants, are you all fired up?
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Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, yeah, I don't care about
16:28
Speaker 1: that guy. He's a cool guy, but he's fired up
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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, but he's not going to go publicize it,
16:34
Speaker 1: make it all about him, that guy. I asked him
16:37
Speaker 1: a question back in training camp about his comfort level
16:39
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Um, you know, small market, big market. All
16:42
Speaker 1: of the things that were critiques of him up there,
16:45
Speaker 1: that he a small town guy, that he didn't handle
16:47
Speaker 1: the pressure of being in a big city. He was,
16:49
Speaker 1: you know, I learned a lot there. I loved my
16:50
Speaker 1: time there. It was great to be drafted and played
16:52
Speaker 1: by the Giants. Now I'm really happy to be here.
16:55
Speaker 1: You know, this is an opportunity for me to to
16:56
Speaker 1: grow my career and to build my financial future. I
17:00
Speaker 1: He's just he's a consummate pro. Yeah. I mean, it's
17:03
Speaker 1: easy to see why they wanted him in this locker
17:05
Speaker 1: room for sure. And that is around the locker room.
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Speaker 1: he won't he might? For Sunday's game against the Giants, Brian,
17:37
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? Give me strong safety ray Sean Jenkins,
17:39
Speaker 1: who will lead the team in tackles on Sunday, which
17:43
Speaker 1: is an important number because he's going to be going downhill.
17:46
Speaker 1: He's going to be the guy tasked with making sure
17:49
Speaker 1: to clean up Sae Kwon Barkley. Right, he knows that
17:52
Speaker 1: Barkley's coming downhill, He's gonna come downhill. He will be
17:57
Speaker 1: this team's leading tackler. You'd like it to be a
17:59
Speaker 1: linebacker generally, but I think this guy's gonna be playing
18:01
Speaker 1: closer to the line of scrimmage, which means he's a
18:03
Speaker 1: de facto linebacker. He won't stop talking. If you saw
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Speaker 1: him make up last week, his energy level was just
18:09
Speaker 1: it was like a spill over a damn. I mean,
18:11
Speaker 1: just kept coming and coming and coming. Um, And he
18:14
Speaker 1: had the energy in the locker room yesterday. He won't
18:16
Speaker 1: stop talking. It fuels him, and I think it fuels
18:19
Speaker 1: some of his teammates as well. Um and he might
18:22
Speaker 1: be the perfect guy to have a locker across from
18:25
Speaker 1: Shaq Griffin because I asked him in the locker room yesterday, Hey,
18:28
Speaker 1: your buddy is hurting, right, I mean, this is the
18:30
Speaker 1: guy you came into this situation with, you grew up with.
18:33
Speaker 1: How do you help him? He goes, Man, don't worry
18:35
Speaker 1: about him. I got him. I loved it. I mean
18:38
Speaker 1: I just I was so impressed this week with the
18:40
Speaker 1: way Shaq handled himself, and I told him that in
18:42
Speaker 1: the locker room. I said, you know, I mean I
18:44
Speaker 1: was critical of you, said, but you stood there and
18:46
Speaker 1: you took it. And he was appreciative. And then to
18:48
Speaker 1: see his his teammate, you know, stand up for him,
18:51
Speaker 1: I really liked it. I think that there's a chance
18:54
Speaker 1: that if he's healthy, he can get back on the
18:56
Speaker 1: field and contribute. Even though I think this week you
18:58
Speaker 1: gotta change it up, Um, he might be the perfect
19:01
Speaker 1: guy in that secondary to help Shack get back on
19:03
Speaker 1: his feet. All right, I like it. Gray shown is
19:05
Speaker 1: also maybe the most improved player on the defense in
19:07
Speaker 1: terms of impact play that on one year to the next.
19:10
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's playing that much better because
19:12
Speaker 1: it's always hard to tell, but in terms of impact plays,
19:15
Speaker 1: he's making many more than he did last season. Uh,
19:18
Speaker 1: drum ROLLI Lonie might is Trevor Lawrence, the quarterback to
19:23
Speaker 1: Jaguars starting quarterback. Um, he will have an opportunity this
19:29
Speaker 1: week to do something he hasn't done, which is be
19:33
Speaker 1: the guy to bring them back or to make a
19:36
Speaker 1: play in a clutch situation and do it at home.
19:38
Speaker 1: If you think about it, they've only won three games
19:42
Speaker 1: at home with him a quarterback, the Bills game and
19:45
Speaker 1: the two Colts games. The Bills game was close, but
19:48
Speaker 1: it really wasn't his game. You never get a feeling that,
19:51
Speaker 1: you know, so, um, I think you'll have that chance
19:54
Speaker 1: this week. Uh, he won't a fold under that. I
19:58
Speaker 1: think he's going to handle it fine. And I don't
20:00
Speaker 1: think he's going to revert, you know, and get a
20:02
Speaker 1: good game last week. I don't think he's going to
20:05
Speaker 1: get back to throwing red zone interceptions. I don't think. Uh.
20:11
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to have a problem handling
20:14
Speaker 1: the moment, because he might. I think this might be
20:18
Speaker 1: the game where that happens for him, where where he's
20:22
Speaker 1: walking off the field and he's looking at the crowd
20:24
Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, I've done it here. This was you know,
20:28
Speaker 1: he won't say this, but the feeling of this was
20:31
Speaker 1: my game. I came through in the big moment. I think.
20:34
Speaker 1: I think the game is gonna be tight if they win.
20:37
Speaker 1: I think it'll be that sort of game for Trevor Lawrence.
20:39
Speaker 1: So uh, I think it's gonna happen for him. The
20:43
Speaker 1: sooner it happens, the more it will happen in the
20:46
Speaker 1: better chance this team has of getting that five or
20:48
Speaker 1: six wins more to get to seven or eight. I
20:52
Speaker 1: think it has a chance to happen this week. Yeah,
20:54
Speaker 1: you can sense this week is is the pivotal all Right,
20:57
Speaker 1: we're done learning, let's move past this, Let's win a game. Well,
21:00
Speaker 1: it's a big game. If it happens, then all of
21:03
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's one of the four or five stories
21:06
Speaker 1: in the league this week because you're beating the Giant.
21:08
Speaker 1: So it has a chance to be that moment. I
21:11
Speaker 1: think it's a huge storyline this way. Go back to
21:13
Speaker 1: the Texans postgame interview, and even though he stood there,
21:17
Speaker 1: you could tell he didn't want to be there. Uh
21:19
Speaker 1: he had that long look in his face, like, man,
21:22
Speaker 1: I hate where I am right now. And even though
21:24
Speaker 1: they lost in Indianapolis, he had a degree turn. I
21:27
Speaker 1: mean it was like, look, I know I can do this.
21:30
Speaker 1: I know do this. So I mean what John's point
21:33
Speaker 1: is is that is that he finally capitalizes on that,
21:36
Speaker 1: and then it really becomes a level of Okay, I
21:39
Speaker 1: got this for sure. Al Right, Mike, he will he
21:41
Speaker 1: won't he might is Tyson Campbell? He will not talk
21:45
Speaker 1: about this but right now he is rated as one
21:47
Speaker 1: of the top ten cornerbacks in the NFL. He has
21:49
Speaker 1: raided a number nine right now. He hit a ninety
21:51
Speaker 1: one point three coverage grade last week against the Colts,
21:55
Speaker 1: two pass breakups. He won't hear about him, and that's
21:59
Speaker 1: a great thing. That means the cornerback is doing his job.
22:01
Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell, we really haven't talked much about because teams
22:04
Speaker 1: aren't throwing to him. You don't hearing about him making
22:06
Speaker 1: plays because he's become at this point almost a lockdown
22:09
Speaker 1: corner where teams are not throwing to his side of
22:12
Speaker 1: the field, and all the drama on the other side
22:15
Speaker 1: of the field that we've talked to great length about
22:17
Speaker 1: about Shaquille Griffin, you're not really hearing about Tyson Campbell,
22:20
Speaker 1: and that means, yeah, he's doing his job. And I
22:22
Speaker 1: know we just talked about ray Sean Jenkins being the
22:24
Speaker 1: most improved player on the defense, and I certainly think
22:27
Speaker 1: he is close. If you go back to this point's
22:29
Speaker 1: last season for Tyson Campbell, we talked about this a
22:32
Speaker 1: ton last year when he shifted. I think Tyson Campbell's
22:35
Speaker 1: most improved player on defense from this point last year
22:38
Speaker 1: to where he is right now, a top ten cornerback
22:40
Speaker 1: in the league. Are you kidding? This is a guy
22:42
Speaker 1: at this point last season in October we were asking
22:44
Speaker 1: could he play in this league? And a year later
22:46
Speaker 1: look at him. Now. There's still another level for him. Right,
22:48
Speaker 1: So when he's getting beat, it's because it's contested balls
22:53
Speaker 1: and he's just not getting there, right, He's not getting
22:55
Speaker 1: the ball loose, he's not taking it away. That's the
22:58
Speaker 1: next level for him. When he gets to the ball
23:00
Speaker 1: and either gets the past defense or gets the interceptions,
23:04
Speaker 1: there is plenty of room for him to go from
23:06
Speaker 1: being in the top ten to the top five. He's
23:08
Speaker 1: a very, very gifted athlete. Yeah, he's got a world
23:12
Speaker 1: of ability, and I think it's crucial how he plays
23:16
Speaker 1: in the last eleven games. It's eleven, right, yeah, eleven games? Um,
23:21
Speaker 1: because I think because of shacks cap number, it's probably
23:25
Speaker 1: not realistic that he's back. He's a thirteen and a
23:27
Speaker 1: half million dollar savings next year and you're eleven million
23:30
Speaker 1: over the cap, so you figure it out. Yeah, And
23:32
Speaker 1: I say that probably no matter how well Shocked plays
23:36
Speaker 1: that number point of career, all that stuff in the NFL,
23:38
Speaker 1: probably low chance he's back. Um, So what the team
23:41
Speaker 1: needs to figure out is is Tyson a lockdown guy?
23:46
Speaker 1: Is he our guy at the position, or is he
23:49
Speaker 1: a really good player at the position and we need
23:52
Speaker 1: a guy. It will affect how they look at building
23:54
Speaker 1: the roster going forward for sure, and that is he
23:56
Speaker 1: will he won't. He might present it by setteth when
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Speaker 1: Headlines Today. Predicting the outcome of Sunday's game Giants and
24:34
Speaker 1: Jaguars here in Jacksonville. What we don't talk about Monday morning.
24:38
Speaker 1: You think big right as not as in giant big,
24:42
Speaker 1: meaning it's big that Jags get a win. So just
24:45
Speaker 1: b I G is on the front page big big,
24:47
Speaker 1: not big teal, nothing like that. Just big in bold
24:51
Speaker 1: big and bold right big. Playing off the giant theme
24:54
Speaker 1: because they need one at three in a row. It
24:57
Speaker 1: would be big. Do you think you're not gonna like
24:59
Speaker 1: its fi? Oh my god, no, I I hope I'm wrong,
25:04
Speaker 1: but I'm a You just said Trevor Lawrence is gonna
25:06
Speaker 1: do all these great things in your Heat three. I said,
25:09
Speaker 1: it's his chance. That was that was for he three,
25:14
Speaker 1: so so so so so so so so so so
25:17
Speaker 1: so close. But right now they still have to prove
25:21
Speaker 1: it to me to get it done. So at some
25:26
Speaker 1: point they're going to I do think this thing turns around.
25:29
Speaker 1: I believe in what they are doing. Uh, the Giants
25:32
Speaker 1: right now, a team that wins these games. The Jaguars
25:35
Speaker 1: have fair point, all right? Fair enough? While I was
25:37
Speaker 1: talking to the lovely Joe Fortunato before the show, and
25:39
Speaker 1: I said I need help or the headline, and he
25:41
Speaker 1: just looks at me and said, Vegas, baby, like, you're
25:44
Speaker 1: so right. We're talking about on Monday, how the Jaguars
25:47
Speaker 1: are favorite against the Giants this week in this game
25:50
Speaker 1: by three points. I was surprised by that, but hey,
25:53
Speaker 1: Vegas doesn't get this wrong. If Vegas thinks the Jaguars
25:55
Speaker 1: are gonna win, the Jaguars will win because Vegas knows everything.
26:00
Speaker 1: It might be a bit of an egg aggeration, but whatever.
26:03
Speaker 1: I tend to do that at times. However, Vegas Baby,
26:06
Speaker 1: we'll be on the Monday headline calling it right now. Okay, John, Okay?
26:10
Speaker 1: With that, I hope, so, I hope. I'm sitting in
26:13
Speaker 1: here with coffee on my head on Monday, and that
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