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Justice League vs. Teen Titans: Exploring Fandom Polarization · Systematic Geekology

• 1:10
  Would
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  you
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  rather
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  be
• 1:16
  on
• 1:16
  a
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  team
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  with
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  Batman
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  or
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  Starfire?
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  This
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  is
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  systematic
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  ecology.
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  We
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  are
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  the
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  priest
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  of
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  the
• 1:22
  geeks.
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  And
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  we
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  are
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  going
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  to
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  be
• 1:23
  taking
• 1:24
  a
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  look
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  at
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  this
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  question
• 1:25
  in
• 1:25
  more
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  in
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  a
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  very
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  special
• 1:26
  episode
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  today.
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  And
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  I
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  am
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  one
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  of
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  your
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  geekologists,
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  Kevin
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  Schaefer.
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  I
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  am
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  here
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  with
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  fellow
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  geekologist,
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  fellow
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  DC
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  superhero
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  nerd,
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  Christian
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  Ashley.
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  Pleasure
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  to
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  be
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  here
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  with
• 1:38
  you
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  today,
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  Christian.
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  Oh
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  yeah,
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  great
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  to
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  be
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  here
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  with
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  you,
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  Kevin.
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  So,
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  as
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  I
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  hinted
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  at
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  in
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  the
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  intro
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  question,
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  so
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  we
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  are
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  talking
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  about
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  Justice
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  League
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  versus
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  Teen
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  Titans.
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  And
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  so
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  this
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  is
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  part
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  of
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  our
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  Finding
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  the
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  Good
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  series
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  where
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  we
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  pivot
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  kind
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  of
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  two
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  fandoms,
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  two
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  opposing
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  fandoms
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  against
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  each
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  other.
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  And
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  you
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  know,
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  this
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  one,
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  I
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  think
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  this
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  is
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  actually
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  one
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  I
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  pitched
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  a
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  while
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  ago
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  when
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  we
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  were
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  planning
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  out
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  this
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  series.
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  And
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  you
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  know,
• 2:02
  I
• 2:02
  thought
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  this
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  would
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  be
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  a
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  fun
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  one
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  because
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  it's
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  not
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  technically
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  really
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  opposing
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  fandoms
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  here
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  in
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  that
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  it's
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  not
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  like
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  a
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  DC
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  versus
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  Marvel
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  thing
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  or
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  Star
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  Trek
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  versus
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  Star
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  wars,
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  thing.
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  These
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  are
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  two
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  superhero
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  teams
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  that
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  exist
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  in
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  the
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  same
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  universe
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  and
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  that
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  many
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  people
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  love.
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  But
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  there's
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  also,
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  you
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  know,
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  a
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  dedicated
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  passion
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  of
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  like,
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  oh,
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  I
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  really
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  like
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  this
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  one
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  or
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  I
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  really
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  like
• 2:22
  Teen
• 2:22
  Titans
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  or
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  I
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  really
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  like
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  Justice
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  League.
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  So
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  kind
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  of
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  get
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  into
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  that.
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  We're
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  going
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  to
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  explore
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  the
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  origins
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  of
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  both
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  of
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  these
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  teams.
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  I'm
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  really
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  excited
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  for
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  this
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  one,
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  Christian.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  know
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  you
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  and
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  I
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  are
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  both
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  big
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  DC
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  fans
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  and
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  particularly
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  with
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  the
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  animated
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  series
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  and
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  the
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  comics,
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  we
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  have
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  a
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  lot
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  today,
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  so
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  I'm
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  very
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  excited.
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  So
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  before
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  we
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  get
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  into
• 2:41
  that,
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  if
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  you
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  are,
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  this
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  is
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  an
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  audio
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  only
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  episode.
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  So
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  if
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  you're
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  listening
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  on
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  Pod
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  Chaser,
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  Spotify,
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  Apple
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  Podcasts,
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  please
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  rate
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  and
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  review
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  the
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  show.
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  It
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  really
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  helps
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  us
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  ton
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  and
• 2:54
  we
• 2:54
  really
• 2:54
  appreciate
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  your
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  support.
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  So.
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  And
• 2:57
  also,
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  you
• 2:58
  know
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  this
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  is
• 2:58
  an
• 2:58
  audio
• 2:59
  episode
• 2:59
  but
• 2:59
  remember
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  that
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  we
• 3:00
  do
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  have
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  a
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  YouTube
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  channel
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  as
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  well
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  that
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  where
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  you
• 3:02
  we
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  have
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  exclusive
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  content
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  on
• 3:04
  there.
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  So
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  head
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  over
• 3:06
  there
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  too.
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  If
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  you
• 3:06
  did
• 3:07
  not
• 3:07
  know
• 3:07
  that
• 3:07
  Systematic
• 3:08
  geekology
• 3:08
  is
• 3:08
  on
• 3:08
  YouTube,
• 3:09
  we
• 3:09
  have
• 3:09
  a
• 3:09
  lot
• 3:10
  of
• 3:10
  great
• 3:10
  stuff
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  on
• 3:10
  there
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  including
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  comic
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  book
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  ketchup,
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  manga,
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  mustard,
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  a
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  lot
• 3:14
  of
• 3:14
  special
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  features
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  and
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  a
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  lot
• 3:15
  of
• 3:15
  live
• 3:15
  shows
• 3:16
  there
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  too.
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  So
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  ton
• 3:17
  of
• 3:17
  fun.
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  But
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  thank
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  you
• 3:18
  all
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  your
• 3:19
  support.
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  Well,
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  Christian,
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  before
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  we
• 3:21
  get
• 3:21
  into
• 3:21
  the
• 3:21
  main
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  topic
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  today,
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  what
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  are
• 3:23
  you
• 3:23
  geeking
• 3:23
  out
• 3:23
  on
• 3:24
  lately?
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  Yeah,
• 3:25
  real
• 3:26
  quick,
• 3:28
  last
• 3:28
  night
• 3:29
  watched
• 3:29
  the
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  horror
• 3:30
  movie
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  2023
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  I
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  think
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  wild
• 3:33
  Eyed
• 3:33
  Wicked
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  and
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  I
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  am
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  not
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  a
• 3:36
  fan.
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  I
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  almost
• 3:37
  want
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  to
• 3:37
  see
• 3:37
  it
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  though
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  because
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  sometimes
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  I
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  love
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  a
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  good
• 3:39
  bad
• 3:39
  recommendation
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  Because
• 3:40
  I
• 3:41
  either
• 3:41
  I
• 3:41
  want
• 3:41
  to
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  see
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  if
• 3:42
  it's
• 3:42
  as
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  bad
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  as
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  the
• 3:43
  person
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  says
• 3:44
  or
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  if
• 3:44
  I
• 3:45
  may
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  have
• 3:45
  a
• 3:45
  different
• 3:45
  opinion.
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  But
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  sometimes
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  I
• 3:47
  love
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  a
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  good
• 3:47
  B
• 3:47
  movie
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  in
• 3:48
  the
• 3:48
  background,
• 3:48
  particularly
• 3:49
  in
• 3:49
  the
• 3:49
  horror
• 3:49
  genre.
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  They
• 3:50
  could
• 3:50
  be
• 3:50
  a
• 3:50
  ton
• 3:50
  of
• 3:50
  fun.
• 3:51
  Yeah,
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  I
• 3:52
  always
• 3:52
  like
• 3:52
  that.
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  And
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  now
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  do
• 3:53
  want
• 3:53
  to
• 3:54
  provide
• 3:54
  then
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  a
• 3:55
  recommendation
• 3:55
  for
• 3:55
  a
• 3:56
  good
• 3:56
  horror
• 3:56
  movie.
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  I
• 3:59
  saw.
• 3:59
  Yes,
• 3:59
  I
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  saw
• 4:00
  Weapons
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  on
• 4:01
  Friday
• 4:02
  Night,
• 4:02
  which
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  is
• 4:02
  from.
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  Yes.
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  Oh,
• 4:04
  so,
• 4:05
  so
• 4:05
  good.
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  I
• 4:06
  will
• 4:06
  be
• 4:06
  very
• 4:06
  surprised
• 4:07
  if
• 4:07
  you
• 4:07
  actually.
• 4:07
  If
• 4:07
  you
• 4:08
  don't
• 4:08
  like
• 4:08
  it
• 4:08
  because
• 4:09
  I
• 4:09
  thought
• 4:09
  it
• 4:09
  was
• 4:09
  like
• 4:10
  you
• 4:10
  saw
• 4:10
  Barbarian,
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  right?
• 4:11
  Yes,
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  that's
• 4:13
  on
• 4:13
  my
• 4:13
  list.
• 4:13
  I
• 4:13
  need
• 4:13
  to
• 4:13
  see
• 4:14
  that.
• 4:14
  I'm
• 4:14
  ready
• 4:14
  for
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  it.
• 4:15
  Okay.
• 4:15
  Okay.
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  So,
• 4:16
  yeah,
• 4:16
  like,
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  Barbarian,
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  I
• 4:18
  thought
• 4:18
  was
• 4:18
  excellent.
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  saw
• 4:19
  that
• 4:19
  years
• 4:19
  ago
• 4:19
  and
• 4:20
  that
• 4:20
  was
• 4:21
  Zack
• 4:21
  R's
• 4:22
  first
• 4:22
  feature
• 4:22
  film.
• 4:23
  He
• 4:23
  was
• 4:23
  in
• 4:23
  a
• 4:24
  sketch
• 4:24
  comedy
• 4:24
  series
• 4:25
  before
• 4:25
  that
• 4:25
  and
• 4:25
  now
• 4:26
  he's
• 4:27
  making
• 4:27
  features
• 4:28
  and
• 4:28
  Weapons,
• 4:29
  I
• 4:29
  think
• 4:29
  is
• 4:29
  there's
• 4:30
  already
• 4:30
  a
• 4:30
  ton
• 4:30
  of
• 4:31
  buzz
• 4:31
  about
• 4:31
  it.
• 4:31
  About
• 4:32
  what
• 4:32
  I.
• 4:32
  What
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  love
• 4:32
  about
• 4:33
  it
• 4:33
  is
• 4:33
  that
• 4:33
  it's
• 4:34
  not
• 4:34
  an
• 4:34
  easy
• 4:35
  one
• 4:35
  to
• 4:35
  pinpoint
• 4:35
  in
• 4:35
  terms
• 4:36
  of,
• 4:36
  like,
• 4:36
  what
• 4:37
  is
• 4:37
  it,
• 4:37
  you
• 4:37
  know,
• 4:37
  trying
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  say,
• 4:38
  what
• 4:38
  are
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  messages?
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  like
• 4:40
  movies
• 4:40
  like
• 4:40
  that.
• 4:40
  They
• 4:41
  can
• 4:41
  be
• 4:41
  interpreted
• 4:41
  in
• 4:41
  different
• 4:42
  ways.
• 4:43
  And
• 4:43
  also
• 4:43
  it's
• 4:44
  just
• 4:44
  really
• 4:44
  good
• 4:44
  storytelling.
• 4:45
  Much
• 4:46
  like
• 4:46
  in
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  sense
• 4:46
  of
• 4:46
  Barbarian
• 4:47
  is
• 4:47
  told
• 4:48
  from.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:49
  broken
• 4:49
  into
• 4:49
  three
• 4:49
  acts
• 4:50
  and
• 4:50
  pulled
• 4:50
  from
• 4:51
  different
• 4:51
  perspectives.
• 4:52
  This
• 4:52
  one
• 4:52
  also
• 4:52
  does
• 4:53
  even
• 4:53
  more
• 4:53
  characters.
• 4:54
  So
• 4:54
  it
• 4:55
  has
• 4:55
  overlapping
• 4:55
  story
• 4:56
  lines
• 4:56
  and.
• 4:57
  Or
• 4:57
  overlapping
• 4:59
  angles
• 4:59
  there
• 4:59
  and
• 5:00
  different
• 5:00
  character
• 5:01
  points
• 5:01
  of
• 5:01
  view.
• 5:01
  And
• 5:02
  I
• 5:02
  really
• 5:02
  liked
• 5:02
  how
• 5:02
  it
• 5:03
  all
• 5:03
  came
• 5:03
  together.
• 5:03
  It
• 5:03
  just.
• 5:04
  It
• 5:04
  was,
• 5:04
  I
• 5:05
  mean,
• 5:05
  perfect
• 5:05
  Friday
• 5:06
  night
• 5:06
  horror
• 5:07
  mystery
• 5:07
  it
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  last
• 5:08
  year.
• 5:09
  I
• 5:09
  mean,
• 5:09
  I'll
• 5:09
  say
• 5:09
  it's
• 5:10
  a
• 5:10
  movie
• 5:10
  about
• 5:11
  kids
• 5:11
  who
• 5:11
  go
• 5:11
  missing
• 5:12
  one
• 5:12
  night
• 5:12
  abruptly.
• 5:13
  Like
• 5:13
  they're
• 5:13
  not
• 5:14
  taken,
• 5:14
  but
• 5:14
  they're
• 5:15
  can
• 5:15
  see
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  trailer
• 5:16
  like
• 5:16
  they.
• 5:16
  They
• 5:17
  voluntary.
• 5:17
  Well,
• 5:18
  sort
• 5:18
  of
• 5:18
  voluntarily
• 5:19
  are
• 5:19
  a
• 5:19
  walk
• 5:19
  out
• 5:20
  of
• 5:20
  their
• 5:20
  homes
• 5:20
  one
• 5:20
  night.
• 5:21
  And
• 5:21
  we
• 5:22
  don't
• 5:22
  know
• 5:22
  why.
• 5:22
  That's
• 5:23
  all
• 5:23
  I'm
• 5:23
  gonna
• 5:23
  say.
• 5:24
  Because
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  less
• 5:24
  you
• 5:24
  know
• 5:25
  about
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  movie
• 5:25
  going
• 5:26
  in,
• 5:26
  the
• 5:26
  better.
• 5:26
  It's
• 5:27
  just
• 5:27
  one
• 5:27
  you
• 5:27
  have
• 5:27
  to
• 5:27
  experience.
• 5:28
  It's
• 5:29
  highly
• 5:29
  entertaining
• 5:31
  and,
• 5:31
  you
• 5:31
  know,
• 5:32
  wonderfully
• 5:32
  acted,
• 5:33
  wonderfully
• 5:33
  written,
• 5:33
  directed.
• 5:34
  So
• 5:34
  highly
• 5:35
  recommend
• 5:35
  that
• 5:35
  one.
• 5:36
  And
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  only
• 5:36
  other
• 5:37
  thing
• 5:37
  I'm
• 5:37
  gonna
• 5:37
  say,
• 5:38
  not
• 5:38
  my
• 5:38
  usual,
• 5:39
  like,
• 5:39
  thing,
• 5:39
  I
• 5:39
  guess,
• 5:40
  recommend
• 5:40
  on
• 5:40
  this
• 5:40
  show.
• 5:40
  I
• 5:41
  mean,
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  do
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  lot
• 5:41
  at
• 5:41
  watch
• 5:42
  like
• 5:42
  a
• 5:42
  fair
• 5:42
  amount
• 5:43
  of
• 5:43
  prestige
• 5:43
  tv.
• 5:44
  But
• 5:44
  I
• 5:44
  did
• 5:45
  finally
• 5:45
  watch
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  Pit
• 5:46
  on
• 5:46
  hbo,
• 5:47
  which
• 5:47
  I'm
• 5:48
  sure
• 5:48
  you've
• 5:48
  heard
• 5:48
  about.
• 5:49
  And
• 5:49
  I've
• 5:49
  never
• 5:49
  really
• 5:50
  even
• 5:50
  watched
• 5:50
  any
• 5:50
  medical
• 5:51
  dramas
• 5:51
  before
• 5:51
  this,
• 5:52
  but
• 5:52
  I
• 5:53
  heard
• 5:53
  all
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  buzz
• 5:53
  about
• 5:54
  it
• 5:54
  and
• 5:54
  I've
• 5:54
  actually
• 5:55
  watched
• 5:55
  a
• 5:55
  fair
• 5:55
  amount
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  Emmy
• 5:57
  nominations
• 5:57
  this
• 5:58
  year.
• 5:58
  So
• 5:58
  I
• 5:58
  Wanted
• 5:58
  to
• 5:59
  check
• 5:59
  it
• 5:59
  out.
• 5:59
  It
• 5:59
  is
• 6:00
  excellent.
• 6:00
  I
• 6:01
  mean,
• 6:01
  no,
• 6:01
  Wiley
• 6:02
  is
• 6:02
  phenomenal.
• 6:03
  The
• 6:03
  whole
• 6:03
  cast
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  great.
• 6:04
  It
• 6:04
  plays
• 6:05
  out
• 6:05
  in
• 6:05
  real
• 6:06
  time.
• 6:06
  So
• 6:06
  each
• 6:07
  episode
• 6:07
  is
• 6:08
  like
• 6:08
  an
• 6:08
  hour
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  shift
• 6:09
  at
• 6:10
  an
• 6:10
  ER
• 6:10
  center.
• 6:11
  Um,
• 6:12
  and,
• 6:12
  yeah,
• 6:12
  it's
• 6:13
  wonderfully
• 6:13
  made.
• 6:13
  It's
• 6:14
  from
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  same
• 6:14
  creators
• 6:15
  as
• 6:15
  er,
• 6:15
  which,
• 6:16
  like
• 6:16
  I
• 6:16
  said,
• 6:16
  I've
• 6:16
  never
• 6:16
  watched,
• 6:17
  but,
• 6:17
  you
• 6:18
  know,
• 6:18
  it.
• 6:18
  They
• 6:18
  were
• 6:18
  able
• 6:19
  to
• 6:19
  reunite
• 6:19
  for
• 6:19
  this
• 6:19
  and
• 6:20
  make
• 6:20
  a
• 6:20
  more.
• 6:20
  Even
• 6:21
  more
• 6:21
  realistic
• 6:22
  medical
• 6:22
  drama.
• 6:22
  So,
• 6:23
  you
• 6:23
  know,
• 6:23
  not
• 6:24
  light
• 6:24
  escapism,
• 6:24
  but
• 6:25
  if
• 6:25
  you're
• 6:25
  in
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  mood
• 6:25
  for
• 6:25
  that
• 6:26
  and
• 6:26
  you
• 6:26
  want
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  catch
• 6:26
  up
• 6:27
  on
• 6:27
  some
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  Emmy
• 6:27
  nominations
• 6:28
  before
• 6:28
  that,
• 6:29
  I
• 6:29
  highly
• 6:29
  recommend
• 6:30
  that.
• 6:30
  So
• 6:30
  that
• 6:31
  is.
• 6:31
  Those
• 6:31
  are
• 6:31
  my
• 6:32
  two
• 6:32
  peeking
• 6:32
  out
• 6:33
  lately.
• 6:35
  Awesome.
• 6:36
  Well,
• 6:36
  Christian,
• 6:36
  let's
• 6:37
  get
• 6:37
  into
• 6:38
  our
• 6:38
  main
• 6:38
  topic
• 6:38
  here.
• 6:40
  So
• 6:40
  very
• 6:41
  excited
• 6:41
  for
• 6:41
  this.
• 6:42
  So
• 6:43
  Justice
• 6:43
  League
• 6:43
  and
• 6:43
  Teen
• 6:44
  Titans
• 6:44
  are
• 6:44
  obviously
• 6:45
  huge
• 6:45
  superhero
• 6:46
  teams
• 6:46
  within
• 6:47
  the
• 6:47
  DC
• 6:47
  universe.
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  have
• 6:48
  a
• 6:48
  big
• 6:48
  background
• 6:49
  for
• 6:49
  them.
• 6:50
  Christian,
• 6:50
  you.
• 6:51
  If
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  want
• 6:51
  to
• 6:51
  start
• 6:52
  just
• 6:52
  talking
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  little
• 6:53
  bit
• 6:53
  about
• 6:53
  your
• 6:53
  background
• 6:54
  with
• 6:54
  each
• 6:54
  team
• 6:55
  when
• 6:55
  it
• 6:55
  comes
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  the
• 6:57
  comics,
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  animation,
• 6:58
  and
• 6:58
  I'll
• 6:58
  get
• 6:59
  into
• 6:59
  mine
• 6:59
  as
• 6:59
  well,
• 6:59
  and
• 6:59
  then
• 7:00
  we
• 7:00
  can
• 7:00
  kind
• 7:00
  of
• 7:00
  look
• 7:00
  at
• 7:00
  some
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  history
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  both
• 7:02
  of
• 7:02
  these.
• 7:03
  Yeah.
• 7:04
  My
• 7:04
  knowledge
• 7:05
  first
• 7:05
  comes
• 7:06
  from
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  dcau,
• 7:07
  but
• 7:07
  we've
• 7:07
  done
• 7:08
  multiple
• 7:08
  shows
• 7:08
  on
• 7:08
  it
• 7:08
  before.
• 7:09
  We're
• 7:09
  gonna
• 7:09
  do
• 7:09
  Justice
• 7:10
  League
• 7:10
  and
• 7:10
  Justice
• 7:10
  League
• 7:10
  Unlimited
• 7:11
  later
• 7:11
  on,
• 7:11
  more
• 7:12
  than
• 7:12
  likely.
• 7:13
  And
• 7:13
  of
• 7:13
  course,
• 7:13
  we
• 7:13
  have
• 7:14
  to
• 7:14
  do
• 7:14
  The
• 7:14
  Teen
• 7:14
  Titans
• 7:15
  2003
• 7:16
  later
• 7:16
  on,
• 7:16
  but
• 7:16
  that's
• 7:17
  its
• 7:17
  own
• 7:17
  thing.
• 7:19
  And
• 7:19
  it
• 7:19
  was
• 7:19
  like,
• 7:20
  because
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  knew
• 7:20
  New
• 7:21
  Superman,
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  knew
• 7:21
  Batman,
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  knew
• 7:22
  generally
• 7:23
  who
• 7:23
  these
• 7:23
  people
• 7:23
  were,
• 7:25
  but
• 7:25
  then
• 7:25
  actually
• 7:26
  seeing
• 7:26
  them
• 7:26
  on
• 7:26
  screen,
• 7:27
  seeing
• 7:28
  Wonder
• 7:28
  Woman,
• 7:28
  seeing
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  Martian
• 7:29
  Manhunter,
• 7:30
  Jon
• 7:30
  Stewart,
• 7:30
  who
• 7:31
  I
• 7:31
  was
• 7:31
  not
• 7:31
  familiar
• 7:31
  with,
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  knew
• 7:32
  my
• 7:33
  Kyle
• 7:33
  Rayner,
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  knew
• 7:36
  Hal
• 7:36
  Jordan.
• 7:37
  I
• 7:37
  even
• 7:38
  think
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  knew
• 7:38
  who
• 7:38
  Guy
• 7:38
  Gardner
• 7:39
  was,
• 7:39
  But
• 7:40
  being
• 7:40
  introduced
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  him
• 7:41
  was
• 7:41
  pretty
• 7:41
  great.
• 7:43
  Then.
• 7:44
  Then
• 7:45
  later
• 7:45
  on,
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  would
• 7:45
  get
• 7:45
  into
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  comics,
• 7:46
  but
• 7:46
  that
• 7:47
  would
• 7:47
  start
• 7:47
  because
• 7:47
  of
• 7:48
  the
• 7:48
  next
• 7:48
  One
• 7:48
  on
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  D.C.
• 7:49
  side
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  things,
• 7:50
  that
• 7:50
  being
• 7:50
  Teen
• 7:50
  Titans.
• 7:51
  And
• 7:51
  I
• 7:51
  was,
• 7:52
  of
• 7:52
  course,
• 7:52
  introduced
• 7:52
  to
• 7:53
  them
• 7:54
  primarily
• 7:55
  through
• 7:55
  the
• 7:56
  I
• 7:56
  think
• 7:56
  it's
• 7:56
  2003
• 7:57
  cartoon.
• 7:58
  Yeah,
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  think
• 7:58
  so.
• 7:59
  Yeah.
• 7:59
  Yeah.
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  think
• 8:00
  Justice
• 8:00
  League
• 8:00
  came
• 8:00
  out,
• 8:00
  like
• 8:01
  2000
• 8:01
  or
• 8:01
  2001.
• 8:02
  It
• 8:03
  was
• 8:03
  airing
• 8:04
  while
• 8:04
  Teen
• 8:04
  Titans
• 8:05
  started.
• 8:05
  Yeah.
• 8:06
  Then
• 8:06
  unlimited
• 8:07
  was
• 8:07
  like
• 8:07
  2004,
• 8:08
  I
• 8:08
  think.
• 8:09
  Yeah.
• 8:09
  Because
• 8:10
  there
• 8:10
  was
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  whole
• 8:10
  embargo
• 8:11
  thing
• 8:12
  where,
• 8:12
  like,
• 8:12
  certain
• 8:13
  characters,
• 8:13
  because
• 8:13
  of
• 8:13
  rights.
• 8:14
  Licensing
• 8:14
  rights.
• 8:15
  Licensing
• 8:16
  stuff.
• 8:16
  Nonsense.
• 8:17
  Right.
• 8:17
  Even
• 8:17
  though
• 8:17
  DC
• 8:18
  owned
• 8:18
  them,
• 8:18
  they
• 8:19
  couldn't
• 8:19
  show
• 8:19
  up
• 8:19
  on
• 8:20
  certain
• 8:20
  shows.
• 8:21
  It's
• 8:21
  its
• 8:21
  own
• 8:22
  thing,
• 8:22
  you
• 8:22
  know,
• 8:22
  politics,
• 8:23
  capitalism.
• 8:23
  Yeah,
• 8:24
  yeah,
• 8:24
  yeah,
• 8:25
  yeah.
• 8:26
  So
• 8:26
  that
• 8:27
  was
• 8:27
  outside
• 8:28
  of,
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  know,
• 8:28
  Dick
• 8:28
  Grayson.
• 8:29
  That
• 8:29
  was
• 8:29
  my
• 8:30
  introduction
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  all
• 8:30
  these
• 8:31
  people.
• 8:31
  And
• 8:32
  it's
• 8:32
  like,
• 8:32
  man,
• 8:32
  this
• 8:32
  is
• 8:32
  Amazing.
• 8:33
  My
• 8:33
  dad,
• 8:33
  being
• 8:34
  a
• 8:34
  comic
• 8:34
  collector
• 8:34
  that
• 8:35
  he
• 8:35
  is,
• 8:35
  says,
• 8:35
  well,
• 8:35
  I
• 8:35
  have
• 8:36
  the
• 8:36
  entire
• 8:36
  new
• 8:37
  Teen
• 8:37
  Titans
• 8:37
  run.
• 8:37
  You
• 8:38
  want
• 8:38
  to
• 8:38
  read
• 8:38
  that?
• 8:38
  It's
• 8:38
  like,
• 8:39
  yeah.
• 8:40
  And
• 8:40
  got
• 8:40
  into
• 8:41
  that.
• 8:41
  So
• 8:42
  that's
• 8:42
  why
• 8:43
  I
• 8:43
  came
• 8:43
  into
• 8:43
  this
• 8:43
  mess.
• 9:28
  It
• 9:28
  was
• 9:28
  very
• 9:29
  similar
• 9:29
  for
• 9:29
  me.
• 9:29
  I
• 9:30
  know
• 9:30
  if
• 9:30
  you've
• 9:31
  listened
• 9:31
  to
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  show,
• 9:31
  you've
• 9:32
  heard
• 9:32
  me
• 9:32
  and
• 9:32
  Christian
• 9:32
  talk
• 9:32
  about
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  DCAU
• 9:34
  multiple
• 9:34
  times.
• 9:35
  We
• 9:35
  did
• 9:35
  an
• 9:36
  episode
• 9:36
  on
• 9:36
  Superman,
• 9:36
  the
• 9:37
  Animated
• 9:37
  Series
• 9:37
  recently.
• 9:39
  Game
• 9:39
  for
• 9:39
  me,
• 9:39
  it
• 9:39
  was
• 9:40
  my
• 9:40
  bread
• 9:40
  and
• 9:40
  butter.
• 9:41
  Batman,
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  Animated
• 9:42
  Series,
• 9:42
  Justice
• 9:42
  League,
• 9:42
  Justice
• 9:43
  League
• 9:43
  Unlimited.
• 9:44
  I
• 9:44
  cannot
• 9:44
  tell
• 9:44
  you
• 9:44
  how
• 9:44
  many
• 9:45
  times
• 9:45
  I've
• 9:45
  watched
• 9:45
  those.
• 9:46
  And
• 9:46
  then,
• 9:46
  of
• 9:46
  course,
• 9:46
  Teen
• 9:46
  Titans,
• 9:47
  which,
• 9:47
  like
• 9:47
  you
• 9:47
  said,
• 9:48
  was
• 9:48
  its
• 9:48
  own
• 9:48
  universe.
• 9:49
  But
• 9:50
  I
• 9:50
  was
• 9:50
  also
• 9:51
  a
• 9:51
  devout
• 9:52
  fan
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  that
• 9:52
  show.
• 9:52
  And
• 9:53
  I
• 9:53
  even
• 9:53
  had
• 9:53
  one.
• 9:54
  One
• 9:54
  of
• 9:54
  my
• 9:54
  favorite
• 9:54
  toys
• 9:55
  as
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  kid
• 9:56
  was,
• 9:56
  like,
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  Titan's
• 9:57
  Power.
• 9:57
  So
• 9:57
  it
• 9:57
  came
• 9:58
  with,
• 9:58
  like,
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  figures,
• 9:59
  and
• 9:59
  it
• 9:59
  was.
• 9:59
  It
• 10:00
  was
• 10:00
  great.
• 10:00
  It
• 10:00
  was
• 10:00
  from
• 10:00
  that
• 10:00
  animated
• 10:01
  series.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:02
  so
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  was
• 10:02
  my
• 10:02
  introduction
• 10:03
  to
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  lot
• 10:03
  of
• 10:03
  those
• 10:04
  characters.
• 10:05
  Obviously,
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  knew
• 10:05
  Robin,
• 10:06
  but
• 10:06
  then
• 10:06
  that
• 10:06
  was
• 10:06
  my
• 10:06
  introduction
• 10:07
  to
• 10:07
  Cyborg,
• 10:08
  Beast
• 10:08
  Boy,
• 10:09
  Starfire,
• 10:09
  and,
• 10:10
  like
• 10:10
  you.
• 10:11
  Like
• 10:11
  you
• 10:11
  as
• 10:11
  well.
• 10:12
  Those
• 10:13
  shows
• 10:13
  were,
• 10:13
  like,
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  catalyst
• 10:14
  for
• 10:14
  me
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  get
• 10:15
  into
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  comics
• 10:16
  later.
• 10:16
  You
• 10:17
  know,
• 10:17
  I.
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  wasn't,
• 10:17
  you
• 10:18
  know,
• 10:18
  probably
• 10:19
  didn't
• 10:19
  start
• 10:19
  reading
• 10:19
  comics
• 10:20
  as
• 10:20
  well.
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  didn't
• 10:21
  really
• 10:21
  start
• 10:21
  collecting
• 10:22
  regularly
• 10:23
  until,
• 10:23
  like,
• 10:24
  late
• 10:24
  high
• 10:24
  school,
• 10:25
  when
• 10:25
  New
• 10:25
  52
• 10:26
  started,
• 10:26
  because
• 10:27
  at
• 10:27
  that
• 10:27
  point,
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  was
• 10:28
  starting
• 10:28
  to
• 10:28
  get
• 10:28
  some
• 10:28
  money.
• 10:29
  But
• 10:29
  I,
• 10:30
  you
• 10:30
  know,
• 10:30
  before
• 10:30
  that,
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  would
• 10:31
  get
• 10:31
  mainly
• 10:32
  graphic
• 10:32
  novels
• 10:33
  and,
• 10:34
  like,
• 10:34
  on
• 10:34
  birthdays,
• 10:35
  Christmases
• 10:35
  and
• 10:35
  stuff
• 10:36
  like
• 10:36
  that
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  here
• 10:36
  and
• 10:37
  there
• 10:37
  and
• 10:37
  so.
• 10:38
  And
• 10:38
  then
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  also
• 10:38
  rented
• 10:39
  a
• 10:39
  lot
• 10:39
  from
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  libraries
• 10:40
  when
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  could,
• 10:41
  so
• 10:41
  it
• 10:41
  was
• 10:41
  mainly
• 10:42
  like,
• 10:42
  you
• 10:42
  know,
• 10:42
  collected
• 10:43
  editions
• 10:43
  here
• 10:43
  and
• 10:44
  there.
• 10:44
  But
• 10:45
  then
• 10:45
  I
• 10:45
  was
• 10:45
  collecting
• 10:46
  regularly
• 10:46
  once
• 10:46
  New52
• 10:47
  started.
• 10:48
  But
• 10:48
  I
• 10:48
  was
• 10:48
  already
• 10:49
  very
• 10:49
  familiar
• 10:50
  with
• 10:50
  these
• 10:50
  characters
• 10:50
  from
• 10:51
  all
• 10:51
  the
• 10:52
  cartoons
• 10:52
  and,
• 10:53
  you
• 10:53
  know,
• 10:53
  different
• 10:53
  forms
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  media.
• 10:54
  So,
• 10:55
  you
• 10:55
  know,
• 10:55
  both
• 10:55
  Justice
• 10:56
  League
• 10:56
  and
• 10:56
  Teen
• 10:56
  Titans
• 10:57
  were
• 10:58
  instrumental
• 10:59
  parts
• 10:59
  of
• 10:59
  my
• 10:59
  childhood.
• 11:00
  I,
• 11:00
  you
• 11:00
  know,
• 11:00
  I
• 11:00
  think
• 11:01
  with
• 11:01
  Justice
• 11:02
  League,
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  mean,
• 11:02
  it
• 11:03
  fit
• 11:03
  into
• 11:03
  that
• 11:04
  DCAU
• 11:04
  canon.
• 11:05
  So
• 11:05
  it
• 11:06
  was
• 11:06
  this
• 11:06
  rich
• 11:07
  universe
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  rich
• 11:08
  mythology,
• 11:08
  and
• 11:09
  especially,
• 11:09
  you
• 11:10
  know,
• 11:10
  like,
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  love
• 11:10
  the
• 11:11
  main
• 11:11
  Justice
• 11:12
  League
• 11:12
  series,
• 11:12
  but
• 11:12
  I
• 11:13
  think
• 11:13
  I
• 11:13
  liked
• 11:13
  Unlimited
• 11:14
  even
• 11:14
  more
• 11:14
  because
• 11:14
  you
• 11:15
  got
• 11:15
  all
• 11:15
  these
• 11:15
  other
• 11:16
  characters,
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  they
• 11:17
  did
• 11:17
  them
• 11:17
  so
• 11:17
  well.
• 11:17
  You
• 11:18
  would
• 11:18
  have
• 11:18
  an
• 11:18
  entire
• 11:18
  episode
• 11:19
  just
• 11:19
  about
• 11:20
  Green
• 11:20
  Arrow
• 11:21
  or
• 11:21
  Hawk
• 11:21
  and
• 11:22
  Dove
• 11:22
  and
• 11:22
  all
• 11:22
  these
• 11:23
  characters
• 11:23
  that
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  got
• 11:24
  to
• 11:24
  know.
• 11:24
  And
• 11:25
  that
• 11:25
  was
• 11:25
  fascinating
• 11:25
  because,
• 11:26
  I
• 11:26
  mean,
• 11:26
  you
• 11:26
  know,
• 11:26
  I
• 11:27
  was.
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  loved
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  film
• 11:28
  building
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  relationships
• 11:30
  with,
• 11:30
  like,
• 11:30
  you
• 11:30
  said,
• 11:31
  John
• 11:31
  Stewart,
• 11:31
  Green
• 11:31
  Lantern
• 11:32
  and
• 11:32
  Flash,
• 11:33
  Wally
• 11:33
  west
• 11:33
  and
• 11:34
  Superman,
• 11:34
  Batman,
• 11:35
  Wonder
• 11:35
  Woman,
• 11:35
  Hawk
• 11:36
  Girl.
• 11:36
  But
• 11:37
  then
• 11:37
  once
• 11:37
  they
• 11:37
  expanded
• 11:38
  it,
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  was
• 11:38
  just,
• 11:38
  you
• 11:39
  know,
• 11:39
  mesmerized
• 11:40
  by
• 11:41
  just
• 11:41
  how
• 11:41
  vast
• 11:42
  this
• 11:42
  universe
• 11:42
  was
• 11:43
  and
• 11:43
  how
• 11:43
  many
• 11:43
  characters
• 11:44
  there
• 11:44
  were.
• 11:44
  And
• 11:44
  we
• 11:44
  were
• 11:45
  getting
• 11:45
  so
• 11:45
  many
• 11:45
  more
• 11:46
  of
• 11:46
  those.
• 11:46
  And
• 11:47
  then
• 11:48
  in
• 11:48
  any
• 11:49
  other
• 11:49
  kind
• 11:49
  of
• 11:50
  medium
• 11:50
  because
• 11:50
  at
• 11:50
  that
• 11:50
  point,
• 11:51
  you
• 11:51
  know,
• 11:51
  it
• 11:51
  was
• 11:52
  pre
• 11:52
  mcu,
• 11:53
  there
• 11:53
  weren't,
• 11:53
  you
• 11:54
  know,
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  ton
• 11:54
  of
• 11:54
  superhero
• 11:55
  movies
• 11:55
  yet.
• 11:56
  That
• 11:56
  really
• 11:56
  started
• 11:57
  when
• 11:57
  I
• 11:57
  was,
• 11:58
  you
• 11:58
  know,
• 11:58
  late
• 11:58
  middle
• 11:59
  school.
• 11:59
  That
• 11:59
  2008
• 12:00
  was
• 12:00
  Iron
• 12:01
  man
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  Dark
• 12:01
  Knight.
• 12:02
  So
• 12:02
  that
• 12:02
  was,
• 12:02
  you
• 12:02
  know,
• 12:03
  when
• 12:03
  it
• 12:03
  started
• 12:03
  to
• 12:03
  really
• 12:04
  take
• 12:04
  off.
• 12:04
  But
• 12:04
  before
• 12:05
  that,
• 12:05
  you
• 12:05
  would
• 12:05
  have
• 12:06
  a
• 12:06
  superhero
• 12:06
  movie
• 12:06
  here
• 12:06
  and
• 12:07
  there.
• 12:07
  But
• 12:07
  I
• 12:07
  was
• 12:08
  mainly
• 12:08
  devouring
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  animated
• 12:09
  shows
• 12:10
  and
• 12:10
  so
• 12:10
  those
• 12:11
  were
• 12:11
  huge
• 12:11
  for
• 12:11
  me.
• 12:12
  And
• 12:12
  then
• 12:12
  Teen
• 12:12
  Titans
• 12:13
  was
• 12:13
  really
• 12:14
  fascinating
• 12:14
  because
• 12:15
  again,
• 12:16
  this
• 12:16
  is
• 12:16
  separate
• 12:17
  from
• 12:17
  that
• 12:17
  canon.
• 12:18
  It's
• 12:18
  its
• 12:18
  own
• 12:18
  universe.
• 12:19
  There
• 12:19
  was
• 12:19
  never
• 12:19
  really
• 12:19
  any
• 12:20
  tie
• 12:20
  ins.
• 12:20
  But
• 12:21
  it
• 12:21
  was
• 12:22
  really
• 12:22
  interesting
• 12:23
  from
• 12:23
  an
• 12:23
  aesthetic
• 12:23
  standpoint
• 12:24
  because
• 12:24
  it
• 12:25
  had
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  lot
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  anime
• 12:26
  influence.
• 12:26
  It
• 12:27
  wasn't
• 12:27
  an
• 12:27
  anime,
• 12:27
  but
• 12:28
  it
• 12:28
  had
• 12:28
  a
• 12:28
  very
• 12:28
  much
• 12:28
  an
• 12:29
  anime
• 12:29
  influence,
• 12:30
  much
• 12:30
  like
• 12:30
  Avatar
• 12:31
  Last
• 12:31
  Airbender
• 12:32
  did,
• 12:32
  which
• 12:32
  I'm
• 12:33
  also
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  huge
• 12:33
  fan
• 12:33
  of
• 12:34
  and
• 12:34
  also
• 12:34
  grew
• 12:34
  up
• 12:34
  on.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  so
• 12:35
  Teen
• 12:36
  Titans,
• 12:37
  what
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  loved
• 12:37
  about
• 12:38
  it
• 12:38
  most
• 12:38
  was
• 12:38
  that
• 12:39
  these,
• 12:39
  you
• 12:40
  know,
• 12:40
  Justice
• 12:40
  League,
• 12:41
  you
• 12:41
  viewed
• 12:42
  them
• 12:42
  as
• 12:42
  godlike
• 12:43
  beings.
• 12:43
  Like,
• 12:44
  these
• 12:44
  are
• 12:44
  adult
• 12:45
  superheroes.
• 12:46
  They're,
• 12:46
  you
• 12:46
  know,
• 12:47
  know,
• 12:47
  literally
• 12:48
  watching
• 12:48
  over
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  world
• 12:49
  from
• 12:50
  a
• 12:50
  watchtower
• 12:51
  in
• 12:51
  space
• 12:51
  there.
• 12:52
  You
• 12:52
  know,
• 12:52
  it
• 12:53
  was
• 12:53
  so
• 12:53
  fantastical,
• 12:54
  so
• 12:54
  mesmerizing
• 12:55
  with
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  Teen
• 12:55
  Titans.
• 12:56
  These
• 12:56
  characters
• 12:57
  felt
• 12:57
  more
• 12:58
  like
• 12:58
  me
• 12:59
  at
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  time.
• 12:59
  These
• 13:00
  were
• 13:00
  teenagers
• 13:00
  that
• 13:01
  were
• 13:01
  dealing,
• 13:02
  you
• 13:02
  know,
• 13:02
  while
• 13:02
  they
• 13:03
  had
• 13:03
  superpowers,
• 13:04
  they
• 13:04
  had
• 13:04
  more
• 13:04
  of
• 13:05
  a
• 13:05
  Spider
• 13:05
  man
• 13:05
  connection
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  them
• 13:06
  in
• 13:07
  that
• 13:07
  they
• 13:07
  were,
• 13:08
  you
• 13:08
  know,
• 13:08
  just
• 13:08
  these
• 13:09
  outsiders
• 13:09
  were
• 13:09
  superpowers.
• 13:10
  And
• 13:10
  they
• 13:11
  were
• 13:11
  also
• 13:11
  teenagers
• 13:12
  who
• 13:12
  loved
• 13:12
  eating
• 13:12
  pizza
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  playing
• 13:13
  video
• 13:13
  games
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  hanging
• 13:14
  out
• 13:14
  with
• 13:14
  each
• 13:14
  other.
• 13:15
  And
• 13:15
  so
• 13:15
  I
• 13:16
  was
• 13:16
  very
• 13:16
  much
• 13:16
  drawn
• 13:17
  to
• 13:17
  that.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:17
  I
• 13:18
  was
• 13:18
  really
• 13:18
  drawn
• 13:19
  to
• 13:19
  the
• 13:20
  diversity
• 13:21
  of
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  characters
• 13:22
  here
• 13:22
  because
• 13:22
  you're
• 13:23
  not
• 13:23
  just
• 13:23
  in
• 13:23
  terms
• 13:23
  of
• 13:24
  powers,
• 13:24
  but
• 13:24
  just
• 13:24
  in
• 13:24
  terms
• 13:25
  of
• 13:25
  personalities,
• 13:26
  backgrounds.
• 13:27
  You
• 13:27
  know,
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  have
• 13:27
  obviously
• 13:28
  Robin,
• 13:28
  who's
• 13:29
  the,
• 13:29
  you
• 13:29
  know,
• 13:29
  kind
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  like
• 13:30
  every
• 13:31
  man,
• 13:31
  straight
• 13:32
  man
• 13:32
  leader
• 13:32
  of
• 13:33
  the
• 13:33
  group,
• 13:33
  trying
• 13:34
  to
• 13:34
  hold
• 13:34
  her
• 13:34
  all
• 13:34
  together.
• 13:35
  You
• 13:35
  had
• 13:35
  Cyborg
• 13:36
  and
• 13:36
  who
• 13:36
  was
• 13:37
  one
• 13:37
  of
• 13:37
  my
• 13:37
  favorites.
• 13:38
  I
• 13:38
  would
• 13:38
  say
• 13:38
  Raven
• 13:39
  is
• 13:39
  probably
• 13:39
  my
• 13:39
  absolute
• 13:40
  favorite,
• 13:40
  but
• 13:41
  I
• 13:41
  love
• 13:41
  them
• 13:41
  all
• 13:41
  for
• 13:41
  different
• 13:41
  reasons.
• 13:42
  Cyborg
• 13:43
  is
• 13:43
  this,
• 13:43
  you
• 13:44
  know,
• 13:44
  big
• 13:44
  personality
• 13:45
  of
• 13:45
  a
• 13:45
  dude
• 13:46
  who
• 13:46
  has
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  robot
• 13:47
  body
• 13:48
  and,
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  know,
• 13:49
  he
• 13:49
  says
• 13:49
  booyah
• 13:50
  a
• 13:50
  lot.
• 13:50
  Yeah,
• 13:50
  you
• 13:50
  know,
• 13:50
  he
• 13:51
  has.
• 13:51
  You
• 13:51
  know,
• 13:51
  what
• 13:51
  I
• 13:52
  like
• 13:52
  about
• 13:52
  Cyborg
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  lot
• 13:53
  is
• 13:53
  that
• 13:53
  he
• 13:53
  has
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  blend
• 13:54
  between
• 13:55
  humor
• 13:56
  and
• 13:57
  serious.
• 13:57
  He
• 13:57
  could
• 13:58
  be
• 13:58
  really
• 13:58
  serious,
• 13:58
  but
• 13:58
  he
• 13:58
  could
• 13:59
  also
• 13:59
  be
• 13:59
  really
• 13:59
  humorous.
• 14:00
  Beast
• 14:00
  Boy
• 14:01
  was
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  total
• 14:01
  class
• 14:02
  clown.
• 14:03
  Starfire.
• 14:04
  Really
• 14:04
  perky
• 14:05
  and,
• 14:06
  you
• 14:06
  know,
• 14:06
  and,
• 14:06
  you
• 14:07
  know,
• 14:07
  kind
• 14:07
  of
• 14:07
  like
• 14:07
  the,
• 14:08
  I
• 14:08
  would
• 14:08
  say,
• 14:09
  like,
• 14:09
  if
• 14:09
  you're
• 14:09
  comparing
• 14:10
  these
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  like
• 14:10
  Breakfast
• 14:10
  Club
• 14:11
  pet
• 14:11
  type
• 14:12
  characters.
• 14:12
  She's
• 14:13
  like
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  Molly
• 14:13
  Ringwald,
• 14:15
  like
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  cheerleader.
• 14:16
  And
• 14:16
  then
• 14:17
  Raven
• 14:17
  is
• 14:18
  very
• 14:18
  much
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  emo
• 14:19
  of
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  group
• 14:19
  who
• 14:20
  has
• 14:20
  this
• 14:21
  really
• 14:21
  dark
• 14:21
  origin,
• 14:22
  but
• 14:23
  is
• 14:23
  also
• 14:24
  able
• 14:24
  to
• 14:25
  establish
• 14:25
  friendships
• 14:26
  with
• 14:26
  the
• 14:26
  others
• 14:27
  in
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  group.
• 14:27
  So
• 14:27
  I
• 14:28
  love
• 14:28
  Teen
• 14:28
  Titans.
• 14:29
  And
• 14:29
  you
• 14:30
  know,
• 14:30
  that
• 14:30
  cartoon
• 14:30
  was
• 14:31
  very
• 14:31
  formative
• 14:31
  for
• 14:31
  me
• 14:32
  and
• 14:32
  like
• 14:32
  ou
• 14:33
  as
• 14:33
  well.
• 14:33
  I
• 14:34
  later
• 14:34
  got
• 14:35
  into
• 14:35
  the
• 14:36
  Marv
• 14:36
  Wolfman
• 14:37
  and
• 14:38
  George
• 14:38
  Perez
• 14:39
  run,
• 14:39
  which
• 14:39
  is
• 14:39
  one
• 14:39
  of
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  most,
• 14:40
  if
• 14:40
  not
• 14:40
  the
• 14:41
  definitive
• 14:41
  run
• 14:41
  of
• 14:42
  Teen
• 14:42
  Titans.
• 14:42
  It
• 14:43
  certainly
• 14:43
  redefined
• 14:44
  the
• 14:44
  characters
• 14:44
  and
• 14:45
  is
• 14:45
  really
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  reason
• 14:46
  that
• 14:46
  they've
• 14:46
  endured
• 14:47
  for
• 14:47
  so
• 14:47
  long.
• 14:48
  So
• 14:48
  that
• 14:48
  was
• 14:48
  a
• 14:49
  fun
• 14:49
  fact
• 14:50
  too.
• 14:50
  I
• 14:50
  also
• 14:50
  got
• 14:50
  to
• 14:50
  interview
• 14:51
  Marv
• 14:51
  Wolfman
• 14:52
  years
• 14:52
  ago
• 14:52
  at
• 14:52
  NC
• 14:53
  Comic
• 14:53
  Con.
• 14:53
  That
• 14:53
  was
• 14:53
  a
• 14:54
  really
• 14:54
  big
• 14:54
  moment
• 14:55
  for
• 14:55
  me.
• 14:56
  Yeah,
• 14:56
  that
• 14:57
  was
• 14:57
  pretty
• 14:57
  awesome.
• 14:57
  I
• 14:58
  was
• 14:58
  interviewing
• 14:58
  him
• 14:59
  specifically
• 14:59
  about
• 15:00
  Superman
• 15:01
  book
• 15:01
  that
• 15:01
  he
• 15:01
  did
• 15:01
  at
• 15:01
  the
• 15:02
  time
• 15:02
  called
• 15:02
  man
• 15:02
  and
• 15:03
  Superman.
• 15:04
  But
• 15:04
  you
• 15:04
  know,
• 15:04
  we
• 15:05
  were
• 15:05
  able
• 15:05
  to
• 15:05
  talk
• 15:05
  about
• 15:05
  some
• 15:06
  of
• 15:06
  his
• 15:06
  other
• 15:06
  works
• 15:06
  as
• 15:06
  well.
• 15:07
  So
• 15:07
  that
• 15:07
  was
• 15:08
  huge.
• 15:09
  But
• 15:09
  yeah,
• 15:10
  so
• 15:10
  that's
• 15:10
  also
• 15:10
  my
• 15:11
  background
• 15:11
  with
• 15:11
  both
• 15:12
  of
• 15:12
  these
• 14:28
  teams
• 15:12
  and
• 15:13
  before
• 15:13
  we
• 15:13
  get
• 15:14
  into
• 15:14
  kind
• 15:14
  of,
• 15:14
  you
• 15:14
  know,
• 15:15
  taking
• 15:15
  sides
• 15:15
  here.
• 15:17
  So
• 15:17
  in
• 15:18
  terms
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  history
• 15:19
  of
• 15:19
  these
• 15:19
  teams.
• 15:20
  So
• 15:21
  Teen
• 15:21
  Titans,
• 15:22
  like
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  said,
• 15:23
  they.
• 15:23
  So
• 15:24
  they
• 15:24
  debuted
• 15:24
  in
• 15:25
  1964
• 15:26
  and
• 15:26
  an
• 15:27
  issue
• 15:27
  of
• 15:27
  Brave
• 15:27
  and
• 15:27
  the
• 15:28
  Bold,
• 15:28
  but
• 15:29
  for
• 15:29
  a
• 15:29
  long
• 15:30
  time
• 15:30
  they
• 15:30
  really
• 15:30
  weren't,
• 15:31
  you
• 15:31
  know,
• 15:31
  as
• 15:31
  iconic.
• 15:32
  They
• 15:32
  were
• 15:33
  the.
• 15:33
  The
• 15:33
  sidekick
• 15:34
  team,
• 15:34
  right.
• 15:35
  So
• 15:35
  all
• 15:35
  the
• 15:36
  sidekicks
• 15:36
  of
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  Justice
• 15:37
  League,
• 15:37
  so
• 15:38
  Kid
• 15:38
  Flash
• 15:38
  and
• 15:39
  Robin
• 15:39
  and
• 15:41
  Wonder
• 15:41
  Girl.
• 15:42
  So.
• 15:42
  And
• 15:42
  you
• 15:43
  know,
• 15:43
  typically
• 15:43
  they,
• 15:43
  they
• 15:43
  even,
• 15:44
  even
• 15:44
  their
• 15:44
  names
• 15:45
  signify,
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  know,
• 15:46
  like,
• 15:46
  oh,
• 15:47
  not
• 15:47
  Wonder
• 15:47
  Woman,
• 15:47
  Wonder
• 15:48
  Girl
• 15:48
  or
• 15:49
  you
• 15:49
  know,
• 15:49
  not
• 15:49
  Flash,
• 15:50
  but
• 15:50
  Kid
• 15:50
  Flash.
• 15:50
  So
• 15:51
  they
• 15:51
  were
• 15:51
  just
• 15:52
  kind
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  the
• 15:53
  sideline
• 15:53
  sidekick
• 15:54
  heroes
• 15:55
  that,
• 15:55
  you
• 15:55
  know,
• 15:55
  really
• 15:56
  didn't
• 15:57
  take
• 15:57
  off
• 15:57
  initially.
• 15:59
  They
• 15:59
  weren't
• 15:59
  nearly
• 16:00
  as
• 16:00
  popular.
• 16:00
  And
• 16:01
  I
• 16:01
  don't
• 16:01
  think
• 16:01
  a
• 16:01
  lot
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  creators
• 16:02
  really
• 16:02
  wanted
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  work
• 16:03
  on
• 16:03
  them.
• 16:03
  They
• 16:03
  were
• 16:03
  getting
• 16:04
  even
• 16:04
  Marv
• 16:04
  Wolfman
• 16:05
  when
• 16:05
  he
• 16:05
  got
• 16:05
  assigned
• 16:06
  new
• 16:06
  the
• 16:07
  new
• 16:07
  10
• 16:07
  Titans
• 16:07
  run,
• 16:08
  he
• 16:08
  was
• 16:08
  initially
• 16:09
  reluctant
• 16:10
  to
• 16:10
  take
• 16:10
  on
• 16:10
  this
• 16:10
  book.
• 16:11
  I
• 16:11
  think
• 16:11
  part
• 16:12
  of
• 16:12
  it
• 16:12
  was
• 16:12
  the,
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  kid
• 16:14
  sidekick
• 16:15
  aspect.
• 16:15
  But
• 16:16
  also
• 16:16
  he
• 16:16
  wasn't
• 16:17
  sure
• 16:17
  if
• 16:17
  he
• 16:18
  wanted
• 16:18
  to
• 16:18
  take
• 16:18
  on
• 16:18
  a
• 16:18
  big
• 16:18
  team
• 16:19
  book
• 16:19
  like
• 16:19
  that
• 16:20
  Little
• 16:20
  data,
• 16:21
  you
• 16:21
  know,
• 16:21
  I'm
• 16:22
  glad
• 16:22
  he
• 16:22
  did
• 16:22
  because
• 16:23
  both
• 16:23
  him
• 16:23
  and
• 16:24
  Perez
• 16:24
  redefined
• 16:25
  these
• 16:25
  characters.
• 16:26
  Introduced
• 16:27
  Cyborg,
• 16:27
  Starfire,
• 16:28
  Raven,
• 16:28
  some
• 16:29
  of
• 16:29
  the
• 16:29
  greatest
• 16:29
  comic
• 16:29
  characters
• 16:30
  of
• 16:30
  all
• 16:30
  time,
• 16:30
  and
• 16:31
  really
• 16:32
  solidified
• 16:33
  them
• 16:33
  as
• 16:34
  a
• 16:34
  superhero
• 16:35
  team
• 16:35
  of
• 16:35
  their
• 16:35
  own,
• 16:36
  not
• 16:36
  just
• 16:36
  the
• 16:37
  kid
• 16:37
  sidekicks.
• 16:38
  So
• 16:39
  that
• 16:39
  was
• 16:39
  really
• 16:39
  a
• 16:39
  turning
• 16:40
  point
• 16:40
  for
• 16:41
  Teen
• 16:41
  titans
• 16:42
  was
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  1980s
• 16:43
  run
• 16:43
  of
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  New
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  New
• 16:44
  Teens
• 16:45
  by
• 16:45
  Wolf
• 16:45
  Mendel
• 16:46
  Perez.
• 16:46
  And
• 16:46
  it
• 16:47
  really
• 16:47
  culminated
• 16:48
  with
• 16:48
  the
• 16:49
  continue
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  All
• 16:51
  Star
• 16:51
  arc
• 16:51
  that
• 16:52
  is
• 16:52
  the
• 16:52
  Judas
• 16:53
  Contract,
• 16:53
  that
• 16:53
  was
• 16:54
  a,
• 16:54
  you
• 16:54
  know,
• 16:54
  critically
• 16:55
  acclaimed
• 16:55
  and
• 16:56
  commercial
• 16:56
  storyline
• 16:56
  that
• 16:57
  is
• 16:57
  still
• 16:57
  revered
• 16:58
  today,
• 16:58
  has
• 16:58
  been
• 16:58
  adapted
• 16:59
  both.
• 17:00
  It's.
• 17:00
  I
• 17:00
  still
• 17:01
  am
• 17:01
  kind
• 17:01
  of
• 17:01
  amazed
• 17:01
  it
• 17:01
  was
• 17:02
  adapted
• 17:02
  in
• 17:02
  the
• 17:03
  Animated
• 17:04
  Series
• 17:04
  because
• 17:05
  it
• 17:05
  is
• 17:05
  a
• 17:05
  dark
• 17:06
  one,
• 17:06
  to
• 17:07
  say
• 17:07
  the
• 17:07
  least.
• 17:08
  Changed
• 17:08
  a
• 17:08
  lot.
• 17:09
  Oof.
• 17:10
  Like,
• 17:10
  I
• 17:10
  mean.
• 17:11
  I
• 17:11
  mean,
• 17:12
  we've
• 17:12
  talked
• 17:12
  about
• 17:12
  it
• 17:12
  before,
• 17:13
  but,
• 17:13
  you
• 17:13
  know,
• 17:14
  with
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  DCAU
• 17:15
  and
• 17:15
  other
• 17:16
  cartoons
• 17:16
  at
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  time,
• 17:16
  they
• 17:17
  did
• 17:17
  not
• 17:17
  hold
• 17:17
  back.
• 17:18
  I
• 17:18
  mean,
• 17:18
  these
• 17:18
  were,
• 17:18
  like,
• 17:19
  shows
• 17:20
  aimed
• 17:20
  at
• 17:20
  kids,
• 17:20
  but
• 17:21
  they
• 17:22
  dealt
• 17:22
  with
• 17:22
  some
• 17:22
  of
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  most
• 17:23
  mature
• 17:23
  and
• 17:24
  dark
• 17:24
  storytelling
• 17:25
  that
• 17:25
  I
• 17:26
  really.
• 17:26
  I've
• 17:26
  seen
• 17:26
  throughout
• 17:27
  my
• 17:27
  life.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:27
  I've
• 17:27
  seen
• 17:27
  a
• 17:28
  lot
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  horror
• 17:28
  movies.
• 17:28
  So,
• 17:29
  you
• 17:29
  know,
• 17:30
  I
• 17:30
  mean,
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  Judas
• 17:31
  Contract
• 17:31
  and
• 17:32
  then,
• 17:32
  you
• 17:32
  know,
• 17:32
  you
• 17:33
  know,
• 17:33
  a
• 17:33
  lot
• 17:33
  throughout
• 17:34
  Justice
• 17:34
  League
• 17:34
  too,
• 17:35
  there
• 17:35
  were,
• 17:35
  you
• 17:35
  know,
• 17:36
  so
• 17:36
  many
• 17:36
  storylines
• 17:37
  that
• 17:37
  really
• 17:38
  were
• 17:38
  questionable
• 17:39
  for
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  young
• 17:40
  audience.
• 17:41
  But
• 17:41
  I.
• 17:41
  I
• 17:42
  guess
• 17:42
  Christian
• 17:42
  and
• 17:42
  I
• 17:43
  turned
• 17:43
  out,
• 17:43
  I
• 17:43
  guess,
• 17:43
  remotely
• 17:44
  okay.
• 17:44
  I
• 17:44
  don't
• 17:45
  know
• 17:46
  enough.
• 17:47
  You
• 17:47
  know,
• 17:47
  I
• 17:48
  got
• 17:48
  a
• 17:48
  Master's
• 17:48
  of
• 17:48
  Divinity
• 17:49
  now.
• 17:49
  I
• 17:49
  mean,
• 17:49
  maybe
• 17:50
  I'm
• 17:50
  okay.
• 17:51
  Exactly.
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  have
• 17:52
  a
• 17:52
  college
• 17:52
  degree
• 17:53
  as
• 17:53
  well.
• 17:53
  I
• 17:53
  am
• 17:53
  employed.
• 17:54
  So
• 17:54
  I,
• 17:55
  you
• 17:55
  know,
• 17:55
  I.
• 17:55
  I
• 17:55
  think
• 17:56
  we
• 17:56
  turn
• 17:56
  out
• 17:56
  okay.
• 17:57
  But
• 17:57
  no
• 17:57
  jail
• 17:58
  time.
• 17:59
  No,
• 17:59
  no,
• 17:59
  no.
• 18:00
  But
• 18:00
  that.
• 18:01
  And.
• 18:01
  And
• 18:01
  also
• 18:02
  the
• 18:02
  Batman
• 18:02
  Beyond
• 18:02
  Return
• 18:03
  of
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  Joker
• 18:04
  traumatized
• 18:05
  me
• 18:05
  as
• 18:05
  a
• 18:05
  kid
• 18:05
  in
• 18:05
  probably
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  best
• 18:06
  way
• 18:06
  possible.
• 18:07
  Again,
• 18:07
  brilliant
• 18:07
  storytelling,
• 18:08
  but,
• 18:09
  oh,
• 18:09
  my
• 18:09
  gosh,
• 18:10
  that
• 18:10
  was.
• 18:10
  That
• 18:10
  was
• 18:11
  something.
• 18:11
  So.
• 18:12
  But
• 18:12
  yeah,
• 18:13
  so
• 18:13
  New
• 18:13
  Tea
• 18:14
  Titans
• 18:14
  was
• 18:14
  a
• 18:14
  big
• 18:14
  turning
• 18:15
  point.
• 18:15
  And
• 18:16
  then
• 18:16
  from
• 18:16
  that
• 18:16
  point
• 18:17
  on,
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  think
• 18:17
  they
• 18:17
  were
• 18:17
  really
• 18:18
  a
• 18:19
  cultural
• 18:19
  touchstone
• 18:20
  and
• 18:20
  that's
• 18:20
  what
• 18:20
  led
• 18:20
  to
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  Animated
• 18:21
  Series,
• 18:22
  other
• 18:22
  adaptations.
• 18:23
  There's
• 18:23
  also
• 18:23
  the
• 18:23
  live
• 18:24
  action
• 18:24
  show
• 18:24
  Titans,
• 18:25
  which,
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  mean,
• 18:26
  we
• 18:26
  could.
• 18:26
  We
• 18:26
  could
• 18:26
  do
• 18:26
  a
• 18:26
  whole
• 18:27
  episode
• 18:27
  on
• 18:27
  that.
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  don't
• 18:27
  know.
• 18:27
  Did
• 18:28
  you
• 18:28
  ever
• 18:28
  watch
• 18:28
  it?
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  tried.
• 18:31
  I.
• 18:31
  I
• 18:31
  couldn't
• 18:32
  do
• 18:32
  it.
• 18:32
  It
• 18:33
  just.
• 18:34
  It's
• 18:34
  not
• 18:34
  edgy
• 18:35
  nonsense.
• 18:36
  Yeah,
• 18:36
  yeah,
• 18:36
  yeah,
• 18:37
  yeah.
• 18:37
  It's
• 18:38
  edgy
• 18:38
  adjacent
• 18:39
  nonsense.
• 18:40
  Yeah.
• 18:40
  Yeah,
• 18:41
  that's
• 18:41
  fair.
• 18:42
  You
• 18:42
  know,
• 18:42
  that
• 18:42
  one
• 18:42
  is
• 18:42
  really
• 18:43
  interesting
• 18:43
  just
• 18:44
  because,
• 18:44
  like,
• 18:44
  I
• 18:45
  remember
• 18:45
  when
• 18:45
  it
• 18:46
  came
• 18:46
  out,
• 18:46
  like,
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  was.
• 18:47
  I
• 18:47
  don't
• 18:47
  know
• 18:47
  if
• 18:47
  you
• 18:47
  subscribe
• 18:48
  to
• 18:48
  the
• 18:48
  DC
• 18:49
  app
• 18:49
  back
• 18:49
  when
• 18:49
  that
• 18:50
  was
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  thing.
• 18:51
  Like,
• 18:51
  that
• 18:51
  was
• 18:52
  like,
• 18:52
  I.
• 18:53
  So.
• 18:53
  I
• 18:53
  know,
• 18:53
  but,
• 18:54
  like,
• 18:54
  I
• 18:54
  held
• 18:55
  on
• 18:55
  to
• 18:55
  that
• 18:55
  as
• 18:55
  long
• 18:55
  as
• 18:55
  I
• 18:56
  knew
• 18:56
  it
• 18:56
  wasn't
• 18:56
  going
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  last.
• 18:57
  But
• 18:57
  I
• 18:57
  held
• 18:57
  onto
• 18:57
  it
• 18:57
  as
• 18:58
  long
• 18:58
  as
• 18:58
  I
• 18:58
  could
• 18:58
  because
• 18:59
  I
• 18:59
  love
• 18:59
  the
• 19:00
  comics
• 19:00
  and
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  TV
• 19:00
  and
• 19:00
  the
• 19:01
  movies
• 19:01
  were
• 19:01
  all
• 19:01
  in
• 19:01
  one
• 19:02
  place
• 19:03
  and
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  really
• 19:03
  enjoyed
• 19:04
  it.
• 19:04
  And
• 19:04
  it
• 19:04
  was
• 19:04
  a.
• 19:05
  I'm
• 19:05
  glad
• 19:06
  it
• 19:06
  at
• 19:06
  least
• 19:06
  lasted
• 19:07
  2020,
• 19:07
  because
• 19:08
  that
• 19:08
  was
• 19:08
  a
• 19:08
  huge
• 19:09
  Covid
• 19:09
  comfort
• 19:09
  for
• 19:10
  me.
• 19:10
  But,
• 19:11
  you
• 19:11
  know,
• 19:11
  I.
• 19:11
  I
• 19:12
  remember
• 19:12
  when
• 19:12
  Titans
• 19:13
  came
• 19:13
  out,
• 19:13
  when
• 19:13
  the
• 19:13
  trailer
• 19:14
  dropped,
• 19:14
  I
• 19:14
  thought
• 19:15
  it
• 19:15
  looked
• 19:15
  awful
• 19:16
  when
• 19:17
  that.
• 19:17
  It
• 19:18
  exactly
• 19:18
  it
• 19:19
  looked
• 19:19
  like
• 19:19
  edgy
• 19:21
  fan
• 19:21
  fiction.
• 19:21
  You
• 19:22
  know,
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  was
• 19:22
  like,
• 19:23
  this
• 19:23
  is
• 19:23
  gonna
• 19:23
  be
• 19:23
  awful.
• 19:23
  Then
• 19:24
  I
• 19:24
  watched
• 19:24
  the
• 19:24
  first
• 19:25
  season,
• 19:25
  and
• 19:25
  I'm
• 19:25
  like,
• 19:26
  okay,
• 19:26
  this
• 19:26
  is
• 19:27
  not,
• 19:27
  you
• 19:27
  know,
• 19:27
  terrible.
• 19:28
  I
• 19:28
  mean,
• 19:28
  it's.
• 19:28
  It
• 19:29
  has
• 19:29
  some
• 19:29
  bad
• 19:29
  parts,
• 19:29
  but
• 19:30
  it
• 19:30
  was
• 19:30
  interesting
• 19:30
  enough.
• 19:31
  It's,
• 19:31
  you
• 19:31
  know,
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  mean,
• 19:32
  yes,
• 19:32
  there
• 19:32
  are
• 19:33
  much
• 19:33
  better
• 19:34
  Titans
• 19:34
  adaptations.
• 19:35
  I.
• 19:35
  I
• 19:35
  think
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  show
• 19:36
  kind
• 19:36
  of
• 19:36
  went
• 19:36
  off
• 19:36
  the
• 19:37
  hills
• 19:37
  after
• 19:38
  that.
• 19:38
  But
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  first
• 19:38
  season,
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  don't
• 19:40
  think
• 19:40
  is
• 19:40
  that
• 19:40
  bad.
• 19:40
  It's,
• 19:41
  you
• 19:41
  know,
• 19:41
  they
• 19:42
  had
• 19:42
  some
• 19:42
  interesting
• 19:42
  ideas,
• 19:43
  and
• 19:43
  I
• 19:43
  like
• 19:43
  the
• 19:43
  cast
• 19:44
  overall.
• 19:45
  So
• 19:45
  it's,
• 19:46
  you
• 19:46
  know,
• 19:46
  it's
• 19:46
  something.
• 19:47
  It's
• 19:47
  not
• 19:47
  the
• 19:47
  Teen
• 19:47
  Titans
• 19:48
  cartoon,
• 19:48
  but
• 19:49
  it.
• 19:49
  But
• 19:49
  it
• 19:49
  was
• 19:49
  an
• 19:49
  interesting
• 19:50
  adaptation.
• 19:51
  So.
• 19:51
  So
• 19:52
  that's
• 19:52
  got
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  little
• 19:52
  bit
• 19:52
  about
• 19:52
  Teen
• 19:53
  Titans.
• 19:53
  Christian,
• 19:54
  do
• 19:54
  you
• 19:54
  want
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  give
• 19:54
  just
• 19:55
  a
• 19:55
  little
• 19:55
  bit
• 19:55
  about
• 19:56
  kind
• 19:56
  of
• 19:56
  how
• 19:56
  Justice
• 19:57
  League
• 19:57
  came
• 19:57
  into
• 19:57
  play
• 19:58
  and,
• 19:58
  you
• 19:59
  know,
• 19:59
  know
• 19:59
  any
• 19:59
  kind
• 19:59
  of
• 19:59
  key
• 20:00
  points
• 20:00
  from
• 20:00
  that
• 20:01
  team's
• 20:01
  history?
• 20:02
  Yeah,
• 20:03
  Justice
• 20:04
  League
• 20:04
  has
• 20:04
  a
• 20:04
  huge
• 20:04
  history
• 20:04
  across
• 20:05
  dc,
• 20:06
  obviously.
• 20:07
  What
• 20:07
  do
• 20:07
  you
• 20:07
  do
• 20:07
  when
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  have
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  bunch
• 20:08
  of
• 20:08
  superheroes
• 20:09
  together
• 20:09
  and
• 20:10
  you
• 20:10
  want
• 20:10
  to
• 20:10
  make
• 20:10
  more
• 20:10
  money?
• 20:11
  Well,
• 20:11
  you
• 20:11
  have
• 20:12
  them
• 20:12
  cross
• 20:12
  over
• 20:12
  with
• 20:13
  each
• 20:13
  other
• 20:13
  in
• 20:13
  their
• 20:13
  own,
• 20:14
  you
• 20:14
  know,
• 20:14
  comics.
• 20:15
  But
• 20:15
  then
• 20:15
  you
• 20:15
  want
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  make
• 20:16
  even
• 20:16
  more
• 20:16
  money,
• 20:17
  have
• 20:17
  them
• 20:17
  keep
• 20:18
  doing
• 20:18
  it,
• 20:18
  but
• 20:18
  as
• 20:19
  a
• 20:19
  team.
• 20:20
  So
• 20:20
  we
• 20:21
  have
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  Justice
• 20:22
  Society,
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  think,
• 20:23
  comes
• 20:23
  first
• 20:24
  in
• 20:24
  D.C.
• 20:25
  history.
• 20:25
  Yeah,
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  haven't
• 20:27
  read
• 20:27
  much
• 20:28
  of
• 20:28
  the
• 20:28
  40s
• 20:28
  and
• 20:28
  50s
• 20:29
  stuff
• 20:29
  because,
• 20:30
  well,
• 20:30
  I
• 20:31
  don't
• 20:31
  have
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  money
• 20:31
  for
• 20:32
  it.
• 20:32
  And,
• 20:34
  yeah,
• 20:34
  that's
• 20:35
  its
• 20:35
  own
• 20:35
  separate
• 20:35
  issue.
• 20:36
  But
• 20:36
  then,
• 20:36
  you
• 20:37
  know,
• 20:37
  have
• 20:37
  everyone
• 20:37
  come
• 20:38
  together.
• 20:38
  You
• 20:38
  know,
• 20:38
  it's
• 20:38
  a
• 20:39
  simpler
• 20:39
  time.
• 20:39
  So
• 20:40
  the
• 20:40
  stories,
• 20:40
  you
• 20:40
  know,
• 20:41
  aren't
• 20:41
  going
• 20:41
  to
• 20:41
  be
• 20:41
  as
• 20:41
  what
• 20:42
  we
• 20:42
  would
• 20:42
  expect
• 20:42
  of
• 20:42
  today.
• 20:43
  But,
• 20:43
  you
• 20:43
  know,
• 20:43
  they're
• 20:43
  okay.
• 20:44
  They
• 20:44
  are
• 20:44
  what
• 20:45
  they
• 20:45
  are.
• 20:45
  It's
• 20:45
  one
• 20:45
  of
• 20:45
  those
• 20:46
  things
• 20:46
  that
• 20:46
  they
• 20:46
  needed
• 20:47
  to
• 20:47
  walk
• 20:47
  so
• 20:47
  they
• 20:48
  could
• 20:48
  run
• 20:48
  later
• 20:48
  on.
• 20:49
  And
• 20:49
  then,
• 20:50
  you
• 20:50
  know,
• 20:50
  through
• 20:51
  what
• 20:51
  happens
• 20:51
  with
• 20:52
  D.C.
• 20:52
  in
• 20:53
  the
• 20:53
  50s,
• 20:53
  they,
• 20:54
  you
• 20:54
  know,
• 20:54
  remain
• 20:55
  more
• 20:55
  on
• 20:55
  top
• 20:55
  of
• 20:55
  the
• 20:56
  superhero
• 20:56
  scene
• 20:56
  compared
• 20:57
  to
• 20:57
  Marvel.
• 20:57
  Then
• 20:58
  Marvel
• 20:58
  comes
• 20:58
  in
• 20:59
  and
• 20:59
  the
• 21:00
  early
• 21:00
  60s,
• 21:01
  Lee
• 21:01
  Kirby,
• 21:02
  Ditko,
• 21:02
  all
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  tremendous
• 21:03
  stuff
• 21:04
  they
• 21:04
  create,
• 21:04
  and
• 21:04
  he's
• 21:04
  just
• 21:05
  like,
• 21:05
  okay,
• 21:05
  we
• 21:05
  gotta,
• 21:05
  like,
• 21:06
  revamp
• 21:06
  things
• 21:06
  a
• 21:06
  little
• 21:07
  bit
• 21:07
  more
• 21:07
  here
• 21:07
  so
• 21:07
  we
• 21:08
  can
• 21:08
  compete
• 21:08
  better.
• 21:09
  Because
• 21:09
  I
• 21:09
  think
• 21:09
  they
• 21:10
  were
• 21:10
  still
• 21:10
  in
• 21:10
  the
• 21:10
  lead
• 21:10
  for
• 21:11
  the
• 21:11
  most
• 21:11
  part,
• 21:11
  but
• 21:12
  there
• 21:12
  was
• 21:12
  enough
• 21:12
  that
• 21:12
  they
• 21:12
  got
• 21:12
  a
• 21:13
  little
• 21:13
  scared.
• 21:13
  And
• 21:14
  so
• 21:14
  they
• 21:14
  give
• 21:14
  the
• 21:14
  Justice
• 21:15
  League
• 21:15
  back,
• 21:16
  even
• 21:16
  though
• 21:16
  they
• 21:16
  hadn't
• 21:17
  really
• 21:17
  left.
• 21:18
  If
• 21:18
  I
• 21:18
  remember
• 21:18
  correctly,
• 21:19
  it
• 21:19
  was
• 21:19
  like,
• 21:19
  okay,
• 21:19
  this,
• 21:19
  like,
• 21:20
  give
• 21:20
  them
• 21:20
  an
• 21:20
  origin
• 21:21
  story
• 21:21
  for
• 21:21
  how
• 21:21
  they
• 21:21
  form
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  team.
• 21:23
  We
• 21:23
  got
• 21:23
  good
• 21:24
  old
• 21:24
  Starro
• 21:24
  the
• 21:25
  Conqueror
• 21:25
  here.
• 21:26
  One
• 21:26
  of
• 21:26
  the
• 21:27
  greatest
• 21:27
  covers
• 21:27
  of
• 21:28
  all
• 21:28
  time
• 21:29
  of
• 21:29
  them
• 21:30
  going
• 21:30
  it
• 21:30
  down
• 21:31
  at
• 21:31
  the
• 21:32
  face
• 21:32
  to
• 21:32
  this
• 21:32
  giant
• 21:33
  starfish
• 21:33
  creature.
• 21:34
  With
• 21:34
  an
• 21:34
  eye.
• 21:35
  Typical
• 21:36
  goofy
• 21:36
  science
• 21:36
  fiction
• 21:37
  superhero
• 21:38
  stuff.
• 21:38
  But
• 21:38
  you
• 21:38
  know
• 21:38
  what?
• 21:38
  It
• 21:38
  works.
• 21:40
  Then
• 21:41
  later
• 21:41
  on,
• 21:41
  as
• 21:42
  they're
• 21:42
  revamping
• 21:42
  things,
• 21:44
  Friends
• 21:44
  are
• 21:44
  changing.
• 21:46
  We
• 21:46
  get
• 21:46
  to
• 21:46
  the
• 21:47
  80s
• 21:47
  and
• 21:48
  we
• 21:48
  have
• 21:48
  Justice
• 21:49
  League
• 21:49
  Detroit,
• 21:50
  which
• 21:50
  outside
• 21:51
  of,
• 21:52
  I
• 21:52
  think
• 21:52
  Martian
• 21:53
  Manhunter
• 21:53
  joins
• 21:54
  initially.
• 21:54
  Other
• 21:55
  than
• 21:55
  that,
• 21:55
  it's
• 21:55
  like
• 21:55
  all
• 21:55
  these
• 21:56
  hip
• 21:56
  new
• 21:56
  young
• 21:56
  characters
• 21:57
  that
• 21:58
  some
• 21:58
  of
• 21:59
  which
• 21:59
  have
• 21:59
  names
• 21:59
  we
• 21:59
  probably
• 22:00
  shouldn't
• 22:00
  be
• 22:00
  using.
• 22:01
  And
• 22:02
  it
• 22:03
  is
• 22:03
  what
• 22:03
  it
• 22:03
  is.
• 22:03
  Then
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  have,
• 22:04
  like,
• 22:04
  Justice
• 22:05
  League
• 22:05
  International,
• 22:06
  where
• 22:06
  you've
• 22:07
  got
• 22:08
  all
• 22:08
  these
• 22:08
  other
• 22:09
  characters
• 22:09
  that
• 22:09
  have
• 22:10
  more
• 22:10
  fit
• 22:10
  the
• 22:10
  Justice
• 22:11
  League
• 22:11
  kind
• 22:11
  of
• 22:11
  mold.
• 22:12
  You
• 22:12
  know,
• 22:12
  your
• 22:12
  Batman's,
• 22:13
  you
• 22:13
  know,
• 22:14
  Captain
• 22:14
  Marvel,
• 22:14
  Shazam.
• 22:15
  Now,
• 22:15
  because
• 22:15
  of
• 22:16
  licensing
• 22:17
  nonsense,
• 22:18
  Martian
• 22:18
  Manhunter.
• 22:19
  And
• 22:19
  it's
• 22:19
  more
• 22:20
  of
• 22:20
  a
• 22:20
  comedy
• 22:20
  thing,
• 22:20
  but
• 22:21
  it's
• 22:21
  also
• 22:21
  bringing
• 22:21
  our
• 22:22
  superheroes
• 22:22
  together
• 22:22
  again.
• 22:23
  To
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  point
• 22:24
  in
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  90s,
• 22:25
  the
• 22:26
  Justice
• 22:26
  League
• 22:26
  itself
• 22:26
  was
• 22:27
  kind
• 22:27
  of
• 22:27
  seen
• 22:27
  more
• 22:27
  as
• 22:27
  like
• 22:27
  a
• 22:28
  joke.
• 22:29
  It
• 22:30
  was
• 22:30
  like,
• 22:30
  do
• 22:30
  you
• 22:30
  remember
• 22:30
  the
• 22:31
  Detroit
• 22:31
  run?
• 22:31
  You
• 22:31
  remember
• 22:32
  when
• 22:32
  we
• 22:32
  were
• 22:32
  making.
• 22:32
  It
• 22:33
  was
• 22:33
  a
• 22:33
  critically
• 22:33
  acclaimed
• 22:34
  series.
• 22:34
  But,
• 22:34
  like,
• 22:34
  oh,
• 22:34
  they're
• 22:35
  just
• 22:35
  having
• 22:35
  fun
• 22:35
  together.
• 22:35
  It's
• 22:36
  no,
• 22:36
  like,
• 22:36
  serious
• 22:37
  story.
• 22:37
  Even
• 22:37
  though
• 22:37
  that's
• 22:38
  a
• 22:38
  gross
• 22:39
  exaggeration
• 22:40
  of
• 22:40
  what
• 22:40
  actually
• 22:40
  happened
• 22:41
  in
• 22:41
  the
• 22:41
  jli.
• 22:42
  We
• 22:43
  get
• 22:43
  into
• 22:43
  Grant
• 22:44
  Morrison
• 22:44
  and
• 22:44
  what
• 22:45
  Morrison
• 22:45
  decides
• 22:45
  to
• 22:46
  do
• 22:46
  is
• 22:46
  he
• 22:46
  wants.
• 22:46
  Sorry,
• 22:47
  they
• 22:47
  want
• 22:48
  to
• 22:50
  bring
• 22:50
  everyone
• 22:51
  together
• 22:52
  again.
• 22:53
  Our
• 22:53
  trinity.
• 22:54
  The
• 22:54
  main
• 22:54
  characters,
• 22:55
  Flash,
• 22:56
  you
• 22:57
  know,
• 22:58
  Green
• 22:58
  Lantern,
• 22:59
  Wonder
• 22:59
  Woman,
• 22:59
  Superman,
• 23:00
  Batman
• 23:01
  and
• 23:01
  more.
• 23:02
  And
• 23:02
  have
• 23:02
  them
• 23:03
  face
• 23:03
  against
• 23:03
  super
• 23:03
  threats
• 23:04
  again.
• 23:04
  And
• 23:04
  that's
• 23:04
  exactly
• 23:05
  what
• 23:05
  they
• 23:05
  do.
• 23:06
  Great
• 23:06
  critically
• 23:07
  acclaimed
• 23:07
  series
• 23:08
  that
• 23:08
  runs
• 23:08
  for
• 23:08
  a
• 23:08
  very
• 23:09
  long
• 23:09
  time
• 23:10
  and
• 23:11
  then
• 23:11
  brings
• 23:12
  more
• 23:12
  street
• 23:12
  cred
• 23:12
  back
• 23:13
  to
• 23:13
  the
• 23:13
  Justice
• 23:14
  League's
• 23:14
  name.
• 23:15
  And
• 23:16
  I
• 23:16
  am
• 23:16
  not
• 23:17
  as.
• 23:17
  I
• 23:18
  left
• 23:18
  D.C.
• 23:18
  for
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  bit
• 23:19
  because
• 23:19
  my
• 23:19
  dad
• 23:20
  stopped
• 23:20
  buying
• 23:20
  them
• 23:20
  in,
• 23:21
  like,
• 23:21
  the
• 23:21
  90s
• 23:22
  because
• 23:22
  he
• 23:22
  wasn't
• 23:22
  big
• 23:22
  on
• 23:23
  the
• 23:23
  art
• 23:23
  and
• 23:23
  everything
• 23:23
  as
• 23:24
  things
• 23:24
  were
• 23:24
  changing.
• 23:25
  So
• 23:26
  I
• 23:26
  know,
• 23:26
  you
• 23:26
  know,
• 23:26
  different
• 23:27
  teams
• 23:28
  come
• 23:28
  in
• 23:28
  for
• 23:28
  them.
• 23:30
  There's.
• 23:31
  Goodness
• 23:31
  gracious.
• 23:32
  Dwayne
• 23:32
  McDuffie
• 23:33
  did
• 23:33
  a
• 23:33
  run.
• 23:34
  I'm
• 23:34
  fairly
• 23:34
  soon.
• 23:35
  Yes,
• 23:36
  Dwayne
• 23:36
  McDuffie.
• 23:37
  And
• 23:37
  he
• 23:38
  was
• 23:38
  also
• 23:39
  a
• 23:39
  key
• 23:39
  creator
• 23:40
  on
• 23:40
  the
• 23:40
  Animated
• 23:40
  Series.
• 23:41
  Yeah.
• 23:42
  Yes.
• 23:43
  So
• 23:43
  I
• 23:43
  enjoyed
• 23:44
  some
• 23:44
  of
• 23:44
  what
• 23:44
  I
• 23:44
  read
• 23:44
  that
• 23:45
  he
• 23:45
  did.
• 23:45
  And
• 23:46
  currently
• 23:47
  I
• 23:47
  am
• 23:47
  not
• 23:48
  caught
• 23:48
  up
• 23:48
  to
• 23:48
  the
• 23:49
  Justice
• 23:49
  League,
• 23:50
  but
• 23:50
  they
• 23:51
  just
• 23:51
  had
• 23:51
  Justice
• 23:51
  League
• 23:51
  Unlimited
• 23:52
  book.
• 23:52
  And
• 23:53
  is
• 23:53
  there
• 23:53
  there
• 23:54
  another
• 23:54
  one
• 23:54
  I'm
• 23:55
  barely
• 23:55
  getting
• 23:55
  in.
• 23:57
  They.
• 23:57
  Well,
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  was
• 23:58
  telling
• 23:59
  Andy
• 23:59
  on
• 23:59
  combo
• 23:59
  ketchup
• 24:00
  last
• 24:00
  week,
• 24:00
  like
• 24:01
  a
• 24:01
  lot
• 24:01
  of
• 24:01
  the
• 24:02
  main
• 24:02
  DC
• 24:02
  Marvel
• 24:03
  continuity
• 24:03
  I
• 24:03
  really
• 24:03
  haven't
• 24:04
  kept
• 24:04
  up
• 24:04
  with
• 24:04
  at
• 24:04
  all.
• 24:05
  I.
• 24:05
  There's
• 24:06
  like
• 24:06
  some.
• 24:06
  I.
• 24:06
  But
• 24:07
  I've
• 24:07
  really
• 24:07
  much
• 24:08
  more
• 24:08
  been
• 24:08
  enjoying
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  absolute
• 24:10
  universe
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  the
• 24:11
  Ultimate
• 24:11
  Universe.
• 24:11
  So
• 24:12
  I'm
• 24:12
  also.
• 24:12
  I
• 24:13
  do
• 24:13
  know
• 24:13
  that
• 24:13
  I've
• 24:14
  seen
• 24:14
  there's
• 24:14
  been
• 24:14
  an
• 24:14
  unlimited
• 24:15
  book.
• 24:15
  You
• 24:15
  Know,
• 24:16
  and
• 24:16
  I
• 24:16
  guess
• 24:17
  the
• 24:17
  other
• 24:17
  big
• 24:17
  thing
• 24:18
  was,
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  know,
• 24:18
  I
• 24:18
  mentioned
• 24:19
  new
• 24:19
  52
• 24:19
  earlier.
• 24:20
  That
• 24:20
  was
• 24:20
  a
• 24:20
  big
• 24:21
  one
• 24:21
  where
• 24:21
  Jeff
• 24:22
  Johns
• 24:22
  was
• 24:22
  writing
• 24:23
  Justice
• 24:23
  League
• 24:23
  again,
• 24:24
  so.
• 24:24
  Oh,
• 24:24
  yeah,
• 24:25
  that
• 24:25
  was
• 24:25
  a
• 24:25
  big
• 24:25
  one.
• 24:26
  That
• 24:26
  was
• 24:26
  like.
• 24:26
  I
• 24:27
  mean,
• 24:27
  I've
• 24:27
  got
• 24:27
  the
• 24:27
  team
• 24:28
  from
• 24:28
  that
• 24:28
  on
• 24:28
  my
• 24:29
  shelf
• 24:29
  in
• 24:29
  figures
• 24:30
  behind
• 24:30
  me.
• 24:31
  And
• 24:32
  so,
• 24:32
  you
• 24:32
  know,
• 24:32
  that
• 24:33
  was
• 24:33
  a
• 24:33
  big
• 24:33
  one.
• 24:33
  But.
• 24:33
  But
• 24:34
  yes.
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  mean,
• 24:34
  there
• 24:35
  was.
• 24:35
  There's
• 24:35
  a
• 24:36
  lot
• 24:36
  of
• 24:36
  gaps
• 24:36
  there
• 24:36
  where.
• 24:37
  Okay,
• 24:37
  yeah,
• 24:37
  it's
• 24:37
  still
• 24:38
  ongoing,
• 24:38
  but
• 24:38
  there's
• 24:38
  not
• 24:39
  that
• 24:39
  much
• 24:39
  of
• 24:39
  note.
• 24:40
  Graham
• 24:40
  Morrison
• 24:40
  and
• 24:41
  Dwayne
• 24:41
  McDuffie
• 24:42
  were
• 24:42
  kind
• 24:42
  of
• 24:42
  the
• 24:42
  big
• 24:42
  runs
• 24:43
  from
• 24:43
  early
• 24:44
  2000s,
• 24:44
  though.
• 24:45
  Yeah.
• 24:45
  The
• 24:45
  New
• 24:46
  52
• 24:46
  team
• 24:46
  I'm
• 24:46
  more
• 24:47
  familiar
• 24:47
  of
• 24:47
  because
• 24:47
  of
• 24:48
  the
• 24:48
  animated
• 24:48
  movies
• 24:49
  they
• 24:49
  made.
• 24:49
  Yes,
• 24:50
  yes,
• 24:50
  exactly.
• 24:51
  You
• 24:51
  want
• 24:51
  to
• 24:51
  talk
• 24:51
  about
• 24:51
  some
• 24:52
  edgy
• 24:52
  nonsense
• 24:53
  that
• 24:53
  can
• 24:53
  happen
• 24:53
  in
• 24:53
  some
• 24:54
  of
• 24:54
  those.
• 24:54
  Some
• 24:55
  of
• 24:55
  those.
• 24:55
  Bring
• 24:55
  some
• 24:55
  edgy
• 24:56
  nonsense
• 24:56
  in.
• 24:57
  Hey,
• 24:57
  it's
• 24:57
  fine.
• 24:57
  I'm
• 24:58
  actually
• 24:58
  gonna.
• 24:58
  There's
• 24:59
  one
• 24:59
  I'm
• 24:59
  gonna
• 24:59
  recommend
• 25:00
  at
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  end
• 25:00
  of
• 25:00
  this
• 25:00
  episode.
• 25:01
  So
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  little
• 25:01
  teaser
• 25:01
  there,
• 25:02
  but.
• 25:02
  Because,
• 25:03
  like.
• 25:03
  Oh,
• 25:03
  there.
• 25:04
  I
• 25:04
  mean,
• 25:04
  they're.
• 25:05
  Those
• 25:05
  are.
• 25:05
  I
• 25:05
  mean,
• 25:05
  that.
• 25:06
  The
• 25:06
  New
• 25:06
  52
• 25:07
  was
• 25:07
  really
• 25:07
  interesting
• 25:08
  because
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  know
• 25:09
  there
• 25:09
  were
• 25:09
  people
• 25:10
  who
• 25:10
  absolutely
• 25:10
  hated
• 25:11
  it
• 25:11
  from
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  start
• 25:12
  and
• 25:12
  couldn't
• 25:13
  declare
• 25:13
  it,
• 25:13
  but
• 25:13
  for
• 25:14
  me,
• 25:14
  I
• 25:14
  mean,
• 25:14
  again,
• 25:15
  that
• 25:15
  was
• 25:15
  when
• 25:15
  I
• 25:16
  was
• 25:16
  actually
• 25:16
  getting
• 25:16
  into
• 25:16
  collecting
• 25:17
  comics
• 25:17
  single
• 25:18
  issues
• 25:18
  regularly.
• 25:19
  And
• 25:19
  so
• 25:20
  I
• 25:20
  was
• 25:20
  jumping
• 25:20
  on
• 25:21
  at
• 25:21
  that
• 25:21
  point.
• 25:21
  And
• 25:21
  that
• 25:22
  was
• 25:22
  a
• 25:22
  really
• 25:22
  cool
• 25:22
  time
• 25:22
  because
• 25:23
  that
• 25:23
  was
• 25:23
  around
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  time
• 25:24
  when
• 25:24
  Saga
• 25:25
  launched
• 25:25
  and
• 25:25
  Mark
• 25:26
  Wade's
• 25:26
  Daredevil.
• 25:26
  It
• 25:26
  was.
• 25:27
  I.
• 25:27
  That
• 25:27
  was
• 25:27
  a
• 25:27
  really
• 25:28
  cool
• 25:28
  time
• 25:28
  for
• 25:28
  comics.
• 25:29
  So.
• 25:29
  And.
• 25:30
  But
• 25:30
  new
• 25:30
  52,
• 25:31
  it
• 25:31
  was
• 25:31
  a
• 25:31
  very
• 25:31
  much
• 25:32
  more
• 25:32
  edgy
• 25:32
  tone
• 25:33
  overall.
• 25:33
  And,
• 25:34
  yes,
• 25:34
  I
• 25:34
  like
• 25:34
  Rebirth
• 25:35
  much
• 25:35
  better.
• 25:35
  But
• 25:36
  New52
• 25:37
  also
• 25:37
  gave
• 25:37
  us
• 25:38
  Scott
• 25:38
  Snyder's
• 25:38
  Batman.
• 25:39
  And,
• 25:40
  you
• 25:40
  know,
• 25:41
  let's
• 25:41
  see,
• 25:41
  that
• 25:42
  was
• 25:42
  who
• 25:43
  Wonder
• 25:43
  Woman
• 25:44
  was.
• 25:44
  Brian
• 25:44
  Azzarello.
• 25:46
  And
• 25:46
  then
• 25:46
  there
• 25:46
  was.
• 25:47
  And
• 25:47
  I
• 25:47
  thought,
• 25:48
  yeah,
• 25:48
  Jeff
• 25:48
  John,
• 25:48
  Justice
• 25:49
  League,
• 25:50
  I
• 25:50
  thought,
• 25:50
  started
• 25:51
  off,
• 25:51
  you
• 25:51
  know,
• 25:51
  at
• 25:51
  least
• 25:52
  pretty
• 25:52
  decent.
• 25:53
  And.
• 25:53
  And
• 25:53
  then
• 25:53
  there
• 25:53
  was,
• 25:54
  you
• 25:54
  know,
• 25:54
  his
• 25:55
  Green
• 25:55
  Lantern
• 25:55
  ended.
• 25:56
  Robert
• 25:57
  Vendy
• 25:57
  took
• 25:57
  over
• 25:58
  after
• 25:58
  that.
• 25:58
  There
• 25:58
  was
• 25:58
  some
• 25:58
  cool
• 25:59
  stuff
• 25:59
  that
• 25:59
  came
• 25:59
  out
• 25:59
  of
• 25:59
  it.
• 26:00
  So
• 26:00
  I,
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  know,
• 26:00
  I'm.
• 26:01
  That.
• 26:01
  That's
• 26:01
  why
• 26:02
  I
• 26:02
  hesitate
• 26:02
  to,
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  know,
• 26:03
  just
• 26:03
  write
• 26:03
  off
• 26:04
  new
• 26:04
  52
• 26:04
  as
• 26:05
  one,
• 26:05
  you
• 26:05
  know,
• 26:06
  thing
• 26:06
  one
• 26:06
  way
• 26:06
  or
• 26:06
  another.
• 26:07
  Because
• 26:07
  there's.
• 26:07
  I
• 26:08
  mean,
• 26:08
  there
• 26:08
  were
• 26:08
  a
• 26:08
  lot
• 26:08
  of
• 26:09
  books
• 26:09
  in
• 26:09
  there,
• 26:09
  and
• 26:09
  there
• 26:10
  were
• 26:10
  some
• 26:10
  better
• 26:10
  than
• 26:10
  others,
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  I
• 26:11
  think
• 26:11
  there
• 26:11
  were
• 26:11
  some
• 26:12
  that
• 26:12
  were
• 26:12
  pretty
• 26:12
  great,
• 26:12
  you
• 26:12
  know,
• 26:14
  And.
• 26:14
  And
• 26:14
  it
• 26:14
  also
• 26:15
  had
• 26:15
  a
• 26:15
  prominent
• 26:16
  influence
• 26:16
  on.
• 26:16
  Yes.
• 26:17
  The
• 26:17
  animated
• 26:17
  movies
• 26:18
  and
• 26:18
  also
• 26:19
  the
• 26:19
  dc.
• 26:20
  Let's
• 26:21
  see,
• 26:21
  what
• 26:21
  is
• 26:21
  it
• 26:22
  eu.
• 26:22
  For
• 26:23
  that?
• 26:23
  I
• 26:23
  get
• 26:24
  mixed
• 26:24
  up.
• 26:24
  Yeah,
• 26:24
  yeah.
• 26:24
  Like,
• 26:25
  trying
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  get
• 26:26
  to
• 26:26
  title
• 26:27
  all
• 26:27
  the
• 26:27
  different
• 26:28
  Cinematic
• 26:28
  universes
• 26:29
  of
• 26:29
  dc,
• 26:30
  both
• 26:30
  in
• 26:30
  animation
• 26:31
  and
• 26:31
  live
• 26:31
  action.
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  have
• 26:32
  to
• 26:32
  remember
• 26:32
  which
• 26:33
  letter
• 26:33
  did
• 26:33
  they
• 26:33
  put
• 26:34
  there
• 26:34
  is
• 26:34
  like
• 26:34
  dcau,
• 26:35
  dceu,
• 26:36
  DCU
• 26:36
  now,
• 26:36
  you
• 26:37
  know,
• 26:37
  it's
• 26:37
  a
• 26:37
  madman's.
• 26:38
  Game
• 26:38
  and
• 26:38
  no
• 26:38
  one
• 26:39
  wins.
• 26:39
  No,
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  will
• 26:40
  say,
• 26:41
  at
• 26:41
  least
• 26:41
  with
• 26:41
  Marvel,
• 26:42
  I
• 26:42
  know
• 26:42
  the
• 26:43
  MCU
• 26:43
  has
• 26:43
  had
• 26:43
  its
• 26:43
  ups
• 26:44
  and
• 26:44
  downs
• 26:44
  over
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  years,
• 26:44
  but
• 26:44
  at
• 26:44
  least
• 26:45
  it's
• 26:45
  always
• 26:45
  been
• 26:45
  mcu,
• 26:46
  you
• 26:46
  know,
• 26:46
  from
• 26:47
  the.
• 26:48
  Anyway,
• 26:49
  DC
• 26:49
  does
• 26:49
  the
• 26:50
  better
• 26:50
  game
• 26:50
  when
• 26:50
  it
• 26:50
  comes
• 26:50
  to
• 26:51
  the
• 26:51
  animated
• 26:51
  movie
• 26:51
  side
• 26:52
  of
• 26:52
  things.
• 26:52
  Marvel
• 26:53
  is
• 26:53
  really
• 26:53
  like
• 26:54
  cutting
• 26:55
  themselves
• 26:55
  short
• 26:55
  by
• 26:56
  not
• 26:56
  getting
• 26:56
  into
• 26:56
  that
• 26:57
  media.
• 26:58
  I
• 26:59
  could
• 26:59
  do
• 26:59
  a
• 26:59
  whole
• 27:00
  episode
• 27:00
  on
• 27:01
  that.
• 27:01
  And,
• 27:01
  and
• 27:02
  it
• 27:02
  is
• 27:02
  wild
• 27:03
  because
• 27:03
  they,
• 27:03
  they
• 27:03
  have
• 27:04
  done
• 27:04
  some
• 27:04
  good
• 27:04
  animation,
• 27:05
  like
• 27:05
  what
• 27:05
  if?
• 27:05
  And
• 27:05
  stuff.
• 27:06
  But
• 27:06
  yeah,
• 27:06
  it,
• 27:07
  it
• 27:07
  does,
• 27:07
  it
• 27:07
  is
• 27:08
  a
• 27:08
  little
• 27:08
  mind
• 27:08
  boggling
• 27:08
  that
• 27:09
  they
• 27:09
  don't,
• 27:09
  you
• 27:09
  know,
• 27:10
  put
• 27:10
  some
• 27:11
  resources
• 27:11
  for
• 27:11
  that.
• 27:11
  But
• 27:12
  that
• 27:13
  is
• 27:13
  another.
• 27:13
  I
• 27:13
  digress.
• 27:14
  But,
• 27:14
  but
• 27:15
  I
• 27:15
  do
• 27:15
  agree
• 27:15
  there.
• 27:17
  So,
• 27:17
  yeah.
• 27:17
  So,
• 27:17
  you
• 27:18
  know,
• 27:18
  Justice
• 27:18
  League
• 27:18
  also
• 27:18
  has
• 27:19
  really
• 27:19
  interesting
• 27:20
  history.
• 27:20
  Again,
• 27:20
  there
• 27:20
  are
• 27:21
  characters
• 27:21
  who
• 27:21
  have
• 27:21
  come
• 27:21
  and
• 27:22
  gone
• 27:22
  over
• 27:22
  the
• 27:23
  years
• 27:23
  and
• 27:23
  you
• 27:23
  know,
• 27:24
  I,
• 27:24
  I,
• 27:25
  One
• 27:25
  of
• 27:25
  the
• 27:25
  really
• 27:26
  interesting
• 27:26
  things
• 27:26
  is
• 27:28
  for
• 27:28
  better
• 27:28
  or
• 27:28
  worse.
• 27:28
  I
• 27:29
  know
• 27:29
  some
• 27:29
  people
• 27:29
  hate
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  system,
• 27:30
  others
• 27:30
  are
• 27:31
  like,
• 27:31
  yeah,
• 27:31
  that's
• 27:31
  kind
• 27:31
  of
• 27:31
  cool.
• 27:32
  But
• 27:32
  in
• 27:32
  the
• 27:33
  new
• 27:33
  52
• 27:34
  run,
• 27:35
  they
• 27:35
  introduced
• 27:35
  Cyborg
• 27:36
  as,
• 27:37
  they
• 27:37
  reworked
• 27:37
  him
• 27:38
  as
• 27:38
  a
• 27:38
  member
• 27:38
  of
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  Justice
• 27:39
  League
• 27:39
  instead
• 27:39
  of
• 27:39
  Teen
• 27:40
  Titans.
• 27:40
  So
• 27:40
  that
• 27:41
  was
• 27:41
  a
• 27:41
  really
• 27:41
  big
• 27:41
  step.
• 27:42
  And,
• 27:42
  and
• 27:43
  he's
• 27:43
  remained
• 27:43
  a
• 27:44
  prominent
• 27:44
  league
• 27:44
  member
• 27:44
  ever
• 27:45
  since
• 27:45
  then.
• 27:46
  So,
• 27:46
  you
• 27:46
  know,
• 27:46
  that's
• 27:47
  been.
• 27:47
  The
• 27:47
  interesting
• 27:48
  thing
• 27:48
  is
• 27:48
  that
• 27:48
  because
• 27:49
  both
• 27:49
  of
• 27:49
  these
• 27:49
  teams
• 27:50
  have
• 27:50
  a
• 27:50
  lot
• 27:50
  of
• 27:50
  history
• 27:51
  and
• 27:51
  a
• 27:51
  lot
• 27:51
  of,
• 27:52
  you
• 27:52
  know,
• 27:52
  decades
• 27:52
  they've
• 27:52
  been.
• 27:53
  Well,
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  have
• 27:53
  to
• 27:53
  consider
• 27:54
  Teen
• 27:54
  Titans.
• 27:55
  Those
• 27:55
  characters
• 27:56
  are
• 27:56
  always,
• 27:56
  not
• 27:56
  always
• 27:57
  going
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  be
• 27:57
  teenagers.
• 27:58
  So
• 27:58
  do
• 27:58
  they
• 27:58
  go
• 27:59
  on
• 27:59
  to
• 27:59
  the
• 27:59
  adult
• 28:00
  team,
• 28:00
  which
• 28:00
  is
• 28:00
  called
• 28:01
  Titans,
• 28:01
  or
• 28:01
  do
• 28:01
  they
• 28:02
  join
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  Justice
• 28:02
  League?
• 28:02
  You
• 28:03
  know,
• 28:03
  and
• 28:03
  so
• 28:03
  it
• 28:04
  adds
• 28:04
  a
• 28:04
  really
• 28:04
  interesting
• 28:04
  dynamic.
• 28:05
  And
• 28:05
  I,
• 28:06
  that's
• 28:06
  what
• 28:06
  I
• 28:06
  really
• 28:07
  do
• 28:07
  like
• 28:07
  about
• 28:07
  the
• 28:07
  Teen
• 28:08
  Titans
• 28:08
  is
• 28:09
  being
• 28:09
  able
• 28:09
  to
• 28:09
  grow
• 28:09
  up
• 28:09
  with
• 28:10
  them
• 28:10
  and
• 28:10
  really
• 28:10
  see
• 28:10
  them
• 28:10
  evolve
• 28:11
  has
• 28:11
  been
• 28:11
  really
• 28:12
  interesting.
• 28:13
  So,
• 28:14
  yeah.
• 28:14
  So
• 28:15
  excellent
• 28:15
  overview
• 28:16
  there.
• 28:17
  Well,
• 28:17
  Christian,
• 28:17
  now
• 28:18
  we
• 28:18
  get
• 28:18
  into
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  fun
• 28:19
  part
• 28:19
  of
• 28:19
  the
• 28:19
  show
• 28:19
  where
• 28:20
  again,
• 28:20
  I,
• 28:20
  I
• 28:20
  know
• 28:21
  both
• 28:21
  of
• 28:21
  us
• 28:21
  are
• 28:21
  big
• 28:22
  fans
• 28:22
  of
• 28:22
  both
• 28:22
  of
• 28:22
  these
• 28:23
  teams.
• 28:23
  We're
• 28:23
  big
• 28:23
  D.C.
• 28:23
  fans.
• 28:24
  So
• 28:24
  it
• 28:24
  is
• 28:24
  a
• 28:25
  little
• 28:25
  hard
• 28:25
  to
• 28:25
  pick
• 28:25
  a
• 28:26
  side
• 28:26
  here.
• 28:26
  But
• 28:27
  if
• 28:27
  we're
• 28:27
  gonna
• 28:27
  have
• 28:28
  to,
• 28:28
  because
• 28:28
  that's
• 28:28
  what
• 28:28
  we're
• 28:28
  required
• 28:29
  to
• 28:29
  do
• 28:29
  with
• 28:29
  this
• 28:30
  series.
• 28:30
  And
• 28:30
  it's
• 28:31
  kind
• 28:31
  of
• 28:31
  fun.
• 28:31
  We're
• 28:32
  gonna
• 28:32
  take
• 28:32
  sides
• 28:32
  here
• 28:33
  and
• 28:33
  kind
• 28:33
  of,
• 28:33
  you
• 28:34
  know,
• 28:34
  say
• 28:34
  share
• 28:34
  our
• 28:34
  points,
• 28:35
  of
• 28:35
  which,
• 28:35
  you
• 28:36
  know,
• 28:36
  superhero
• 28:36
  team
• 28:37
  we
• 28:37
  think
• 28:37
  is,
• 28:38
  I
• 28:38
  guess,
• 28:38
  superior,
• 28:39
  which
• 28:39
  when
• 28:40
  we,
• 28:40
  you
• 28:41
  know,
• 28:41
  we
• 28:41
  kind
• 28:41
  of
• 28:42
  are
• 28:42
  gonna
• 28:43
  root
• 28:43
  for
• 28:44
  in
• 28:44
  this
• 28:44
  discussion.
• 28:45
  So
• 28:45
  I
• 28:46
  am
• 28:46
  going
• 28:46
  to
• 28:46
  take
• 28:46
  the
• 28:46
  side
• 28:47
  of
• 28:47
  Teen
• 28:47
  Titans.
• 28:48
  Christian,
• 28:49
  you're
• 28:49
  going
• 28:49
  to
• 28:49
  take
• 28:49
  the
• 28:49
  side
• 28:49
  of
• 28:50
  Justice
• 28:50
  League.
• 28:50
  So
• 28:51
  do
• 28:51
  you
• 28:51
  want
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  start?
• 28:53
  Kevin?
• 28:54
  He
• 28:54
  didn't
• 28:55
  just
• 28:55
  assign
• 28:55
  me
• 28:55
  that
• 28:55
  role.
• 28:56
  We
• 28:56
  talked
• 28:57
  about
• 28:57
  this
• 28:57
  beforehand.
• 28:58
  Like,
• 28:58
  he's
• 28:59
  not
• 28:59
  lording
• 28:59
  over
• 28:59
  me
• 29:00
  in
• 29:00
  any
• 29:00
  way.
• 29:01
  That's
• 29:01
  true,
• 29:01
  that's
• 29:01
  true.
• 29:02
  I.
• 29:02
  I'm
• 29:02
  not
• 29:03
  like
• 29:04
  that
• 29:04
  about
• 29:05
  you,
• 29:05
  and
• 29:06
  I'm
• 29:06
  not,
• 29:06
  like,
• 29:06
  putting
• 29:06
  that
• 29:06
  on
• 29:07
  you
• 29:07
  right
• 29:07
  now,
• 29:07
  too.
• 29:07
  So,
• 29:08
  like,
• 29:08
  hey,
• 29:08
  by
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  way,
• 29:08
  you're
• 29:09
  going
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  take
• 29:09
  this
• 29:09
  side
• 29:09
  right
• 29:10
  now.
• 29:10
  You
• 29:10
  have
• 29:10
  no
• 29:10
  time
• 29:10
  to
• 29:11
  prepare.
• 29:11
  Go.
• 29:12
  That
• 29:12
  would
• 29:13
  be
• 29:13
  kind
• 29:13
  of
• 29:13
  interesting,
• 29:13
  though,
• 29:14
  if
• 29:14
  we
• 29:14
  did
• 29:14
  that.
• 29:14
  It's
• 29:14
  a.
• 29:15
  That'd
• 29:15
  be
• 29:15
  an
• 29:15
  experiment.
• 29:16
  Oh,
• 29:16
  I
• 29:16
  guess
• 29:17
  I
• 29:17
  have
• 29:17
  to
• 29:17
  defend
• 29:17
  this
• 29:17
  now.
• 29:18
  Yes.
• 29:19
  But,
• 29:19
  yes,
• 29:19
  we
• 29:19
  did
• 29:20
  talk
• 29:20
  about
• 29:20
  this
• 29:20
  before
• 29:21
  the
• 29:21
  show
• 29:21
  and
• 29:21
  kind
• 29:22
  of
• 29:22
  decided
• 29:22
  what
• 29:23
  we're
• 29:23
  on.
• 29:23
  So,
• 29:23
  yeah,
• 29:24
  Christian,
• 29:24
  I'm
• 29:24
  here.
• 29:24
  So
• 29:25
  if
• 29:25
  you
• 29:25
  had
• 29:25
  to
• 29:26
  find
• 29:27
  why
• 29:27
  Justice
• 29:28
  League
• 29:29
  is
• 29:29
  the
• 29:30
  better
• 29:30
  of
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  super
• 29:30
  teams,
• 29:31
  what.
• 29:31
  What
• 29:31
  would
• 29:32
  you
• 29:32
  say?
• 29:33
  Well,
• 29:34
  without
• 29:35
  me,
• 29:36
  you
• 29:36
  don't
• 29:36
  exist.
• 29:38
  None
• 29:38
  of
• 29:38
  you
• 29:38
  exist
• 29:39
  because
• 29:39
  you
• 29:40
  need
• 29:40
  me.
• 29:40
  I'm
• 29:41
  the
• 29:41
  og.
• 29:41
  We
• 29:42
  came
• 29:42
  here,
• 29:42
  we
• 29:43
  established
• 29:43
  a
• 29:43
  footwork
• 29:44
  that
• 29:44
  you
• 29:44
  can
• 29:45
  plan
• 29:45
  to
• 29:45
  sandbox
• 29:46
  in.
• 29:46
  But
• 29:46
  remember
• 29:47
  who
• 29:47
  built
• 29:47
  the
• 29:47
  sandbox,
• 29:48
  who
• 29:48
  made
• 29:48
  things
• 29:49
  the
• 29:49
  way
• 29:49
  they
• 29:49
  are?
• 29:50
  You
• 29:50
  know
• 29:50
  what?
• 29:51
  I'm
• 29:51
  all
• 29:51
  for
• 29:51
  young
• 29:51
  heroes,
• 29:52
  you
• 29:52
  know,
• 29:52
  learning
• 29:53
  along
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  way,
• 29:53
  but
• 29:54
  it's
• 29:54
  time
• 29:54
  to
• 29:54
  grow
• 29:54
  up.
• 29:54
  At
• 29:54
  a
• 29:55
  certain
• 29:55
  point
• 29:55
  in
• 29:55
  time,
• 29:56
  Spider
• 29:56
  man
• 29:56
  is
• 29:56
  great,
• 29:57
  but
• 29:57
  he
• 29:57
  shouldn't
• 29:58
  always
• 29:58
  remain,
• 29:58
  you
• 29:59
  know,
• 29:59
  in
• 29:59
  high
• 29:59
  school.
• 30:00
  He's
• 30:00
  got
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  go
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  college.
• 30:01
  He's
• 30:01
  got
• 30:01
  to,
• 30:01
  you
• 30:01
  know,
• 30:02
  graduate
• 30:02
  eventually
• 30:03
  with
• 30:03
  a
• 30:03
  degree,
• 30:04
  eventually
• 30:05
  Marvel.
• 30:05
  But
• 30:06
  you
• 30:07
  know
• 30:07
  what?
• 30:07
  It's
• 30:08
  its
• 30:08
  own
• 30:08
  thing.
• 30:09
  And,
• 30:09
  like,
• 30:10
  it's
• 30:10
  building
• 30:10
  off
• 30:10
  of
• 30:11
  a
• 30:11
  great
• 30:11
  history,
• 30:12
  and
• 30:12
  you've
• 30:12
  got
• 30:13
  the
• 30:13
  trinity.
• 30:13
  I
• 30:14
  mean,
• 30:14
  there's
• 30:14
  a
• 30:14
  reason
• 30:14
  that
• 30:14
  term
• 30:15
  is
• 30:15
  thrown
• 30:15
  around
• 30:15
  here,
• 30:16
  because
• 30:17
  Superman,
• 30:18
  Batman,
• 30:18
  Wonder
• 30:18
  Woman,
• 30:19
  they
• 30:19
  bring
• 30:19
  so
• 30:20
  much.
• 30:20
  You
• 30:20
  remove
• 30:21
  them
• 30:21
  and
• 30:21
  their
• 30:21
  influence
• 30:22
  from
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  dc.
• 30:23
  You
• 30:23
  don't
• 30:23
  have
• 30:23
  what
• 30:23
  happens.
• 30:24
  You're
• 30:25
  not
• 30:25
  going
• 30:25
  to
• 30:25
  have
• 30:25
  a
• 30:25
  Rob,
• 30:25
  you're
• 30:26
  not
• 30:26
  going
• 30:26
  to
• 30:26
  have
• 30:26
  a
• 30:26
  Wonder
• 30:26
  Girl,
• 30:27
  and
• 30:28
  so
• 30:28
  much
• 30:29
  more.
• 30:29
  Hey,
• 30:29
  you're
• 30:30
  not
• 30:30
  even
• 30:30
  going
• 30:30
  to
• 30:30
  have
• 30:30
  Young
• 30:30
  justice
• 30:31
  later
• 30:31
  on.
• 30:32
  But
• 30:33
  what
• 30:34
  needs
• 30:34
  to
• 30:34
  be
• 30:34
  done
• 30:34
  is,
• 30:35
  yeah,
• 30:35
  they
• 30:35
  started
• 30:35
  off
• 30:36
  rough.
• 30:36
  They
• 30:36
  were
• 30:36
  figuring
• 30:37
  things
• 30:37
  out,
• 30:37
  and
• 30:38
  obviously,
• 30:38
  with
• 30:39
  80
• 30:39
  plus
• 30:39
  years
• 30:39
  of
• 30:40
  continuity,
• 30:40
  you're
• 30:41
  going
• 30:41
  to
• 30:41
  have
• 30:41
  different
• 30:41
  authors
• 30:42
  doing
• 30:42
  different
• 30:42
  things.
• 30:42
  But,
• 30:43
  like,
• 30:43
  the
• 30:43
  collective
• 30:44
  idea
• 30:44
  of
• 30:44
  who
• 30:45
  these
• 30:45
  characters
• 30:45
  represent
• 30:46
  are
• 30:46
  so
• 30:47
  important
• 30:47
  to
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  fabric
• 30:48
  of
• 30:48
  DC
• 30:48
  as
• 30:49
  a
• 30:49
  whole
• 30:49
  that
• 30:50
  we
• 30:50
  need
• 30:50
  to
• 30:51
  look
• 30:51
  at
• 30:51
  them
• 30:51
  first.
• 30:52
  Not
• 30:52
  only
• 30:52
  just
• 30:53
  because
• 30:53
  they
• 30:53
  came
• 30:53
  first.
• 30:54
  I
• 30:54
  mean,
• 30:54
  that's
• 30:54
  a
• 30:54
  stupid
• 30:55
  reason
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  care,
• 30:55
  but
• 30:56
  to
• 30:57
  see
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  impact
• 30:57
  that
• 30:58
  they
• 30:58
  have
• 30:58
  on
• 30:59
  everything.
• 30:59
  That.
• 31:00
  When
• 31:01
  Nightwing
• 31:01
  is
• 31:02
  having
• 31:02
  an
• 31:02
  issue,
• 31:02
  what
• 31:03
  does
• 31:03
  he
• 31:03
  Think
• 31:03
  what
• 31:03
  would
• 31:04
  Bruce
• 31:04
  do?
• 31:04
  What
• 31:04
  would
• 31:04
  Batman
• 31:05
  do?
• 31:05
  What
• 31:05
  would
• 31:06
  Clark
• 31:06
  do?
• 31:07
  Because
• 31:07
  he
• 31:08
  spent
• 31:08
  time
• 31:08
  around
• 31:09
  them,
• 31:09
  seen
• 31:09
  how
• 31:09
  they've
• 31:10
  done
• 31:10
  things
• 31:10
  and
• 31:10
  say,
• 31:11
  how
• 31:11
  would
• 31:11
  I
• 31:11
  do
• 31:11
  things
• 31:11
  better?
• 31:12
  How
• 31:12
  would
• 31:12
  I
• 31:12
  do
• 31:12
  things
• 31:13
  my
• 31:13
  way?
• 31:14
  That
• 31:14
  you
• 31:15
  can't
• 31:15
  have
• 31:15
  without
• 31:15
  them
• 31:16
  being
• 31:16
  taught
• 31:17
  by
• 31:17
  an
• 31:17
  older
• 31:17
  generation
• 31:18
  who
• 31:19
  made
• 31:19
  a
• 31:19
  couple
• 31:19
  mistakes
• 31:20
  and
• 31:20
  has
• 31:20
  learned
• 31:21
  along
• 31:21
  the
• 31:21
  way
• 31:22
  how
• 31:22
  to
• 31:22
  do
• 31:22
  things
• 31:22
  so
• 31:22
  that
• 31:22
  next,
• 31:23
  the
• 31:23
  next
• 31:23
  generation
• 31:24
  comes
• 31:24
  in,
• 31:25
  they
• 31:25
  look,
• 31:25
  avoid
• 31:25
  this,
• 31:26
  do
• 31:26
  this
• 31:26
  instead.
• 31:27
  That's
• 31:27
  what
• 31:27
  a
• 31:27
  good
• 31:27
  teacher
• 31:28
  should
• 31:28
  do.
• 31:28
  And
• 31:29
  when
• 31:29
  they're
• 31:29
  being
• 31:29
  written
• 31:30
  competently,
• 31:30
  the
• 31:31
  JLA
• 31:32
  will
• 31:32
  be
• 31:32
  good
• 31:33
  teachers
• 31:34
  to
• 31:35
  younger
• 31:36
  generations.
• 31:36
  Not
• 31:37
  because
• 31:37
  they're
• 31:37
  lesser,
• 31:38
  but
• 31:38
  because
• 31:38
  they,
• 31:38
  they
• 31:39
  need
• 31:39
  the
• 31:39
  influence
• 31:40
  of
• 31:40
  those
• 31:40
  who
• 31:40
  came
• 31:40
  before.
• 31:41
  Very,
• 31:41
  very
• 31:41
  points.
• 31:42
  Yeah.
• 31:42
  And
• 31:43
  again,
• 31:43
  it's,
• 31:43
  this
• 31:44
  is
• 31:44
  what
• 31:44
  it's
• 31:45
  hard
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  argue
• 31:45
  because
• 31:45
  again,
• 31:46
  I
• 31:46
  do
• 31:46
  love
• 31:46
  both
• 31:46
  these
• 31:47
  teams,
• 31:47
  but
• 31:47
  again,
• 31:47
  if
• 31:48
  I'm
• 31:48
  gonna
• 31:48
  have
• 31:48
  to
• 31:48
  pick
• 31:48
  a
• 31:48
  side,
• 31:49
  what,
• 31:50
  what
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  think
• 31:50
  defines
• 31:51
  Teen
• 31:51
  Titans
• 31:52
  and
• 31:52
  what
• 31:52
  I
• 31:52
  think
• 31:52
  that
• 31:52
  makes
• 31:53
  them
• 31:53
  really,
• 31:54
  what's
• 31:54
  their
• 31:54
  greatest
• 31:55
  strength
• 31:55
  is
• 31:56
  the
• 31:56
  family
• 31:56
  dynamics
• 31:57
  between
• 31:57
  them.
• 31:57
  Because
• 31:58
  when
• 31:58
  I
• 31:58
  think
• 31:58
  about
• 31:58
  Justice
• 31:59
  League,
• 31:59
  as
• 31:59
  much
• 32:00
  as
• 32:00
  I
• 32:00
  love
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  team,
• 32:00
  I
• 32:01
  think
• 32:01
  for
• 32:01
  them
• 32:01
  more
• 32:02
  as
• 32:02
  reluctant
• 32:02
  co
• 32:03
  workers
• 32:03
  and
• 32:03
  they,
• 32:04
  you
• 32:04
  know,
• 32:04
  do
• 32:05
  what
• 32:05
  they
• 32:05
  have
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  to
• 32:06
  get
• 32:06
  the
• 32:06
  job
• 32:06
  done.
• 32:06
  But
• 32:07
  they're
• 32:07
  not
• 32:07
  necessarily,
• 32:08
  some
• 32:08
  are
• 32:09
  going
• 32:09
  to
• 32:09
  be
• 32:09
  more
• 32:09
  friends,
• 32:10
  but
• 32:10
  a
• 32:10
  lot
• 32:10
  of
• 32:11
  times
• 32:11
  they
• 32:11
  go
• 32:11
  do
• 32:12
  jobs
• 32:12
  together,
• 32:12
  they
• 32:12
  go
• 32:13
  see
• 32:13
  the
• 32:13
  world
• 32:13
  and
• 32:13
  then
• 32:13
  they
• 32:14
  go
• 32:14
  about
• 32:14
  their
• 32:14
  own
• 32:14
  separate
• 32:15
  business.
• 32:15
  The
• 32:15
  Teen
• 32:15
  Titans,
• 32:16
  they
• 32:16
  live
• 32:17
  together,
• 32:17
  they
• 32:18
  do
• 32:18
  life
• 32:18
  together.
• 32:19
  They're
• 32:19
  the
• 32:20
  ideal
• 32:20
  family
• 32:21
  where
• 32:22
  it's
• 32:22
  not
• 32:22
  only
• 32:23
  they
• 32:23
  have
• 32:23
  a
• 32:23
  job
• 32:23
  to
• 32:24
  do,
• 32:24
  but
• 32:24
  they
• 32:25
  are
• 32:25
  there
• 32:25
  for
• 32:26
  each
• 32:26
  other,
• 32:27
  you
• 32:27
  know,
• 32:28
  in
• 32:28
  and
• 32:28
  outside
• 32:28
  of
• 32:29
  work.
• 32:29
  And
• 32:29
  they,
• 32:30
  I
• 32:30
  love
• 32:30
  that
• 32:30
  that
• 32:31
  family
• 32:31
  dynamic
• 32:31
  is
• 32:32
  their
• 32:32
  greatest
• 32:32
  strength.
• 32:32
  And
• 32:33
  again
• 32:33
  I
• 32:33
  mentioned
• 32:33
  earlier,
• 32:34
  like
• 32:34
  I
• 32:34
  had
• 32:34
  the,
• 32:34
  the
• 32:34
  Teen
• 32:35
  Titans
• 32:35
  Tower
• 32:36
  playset
• 32:36
  as
• 32:37
  a
• 32:37
  kid
• 32:37
  and
• 32:37
  that
• 32:38
  was,
• 32:38
  you
• 32:38
  know,
• 32:38
  such
• 32:38
  a
• 32:38
  prominent
• 32:39
  feature
• 32:39
  of
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  show
• 32:40
  and
• 32:40
  the
• 32:40
  comics
• 32:40
  and
• 32:41
  it,
• 32:41
  I
• 32:41
  just
• 32:42
  love
• 32:42
  that,
• 32:42
  that
• 32:43
  really
• 32:43
  instilled
• 32:44
  in
• 32:44
  me
• 32:44
  the
• 32:45
  idea
• 32:45
  that,
• 32:46
  you
• 32:46
  know,
• 32:46
  you
• 32:47
  don't
• 32:47
  have
• 32:47
  to
• 32:47
  just,
• 32:48
  you
• 32:48
  know,
• 32:49
  do
• 32:49
  things,
• 32:50
  be
• 32:50
  out
• 32:50
  of
• 32:50
  obligation,
• 32:51
  you
• 32:51
  do
• 32:52
  things
• 32:52
  out
• 32:52
  of
• 32:52
  love
• 32:52
  for
• 32:53
  each
• 32:53
  other
• 32:53
  and
• 32:54
  to
• 32:54
  support
• 32:54
  each
• 32:54
  other.
• 32:55
  And
• 32:55
  I
• 32:55
  love
• 32:55
  seeing
• 32:56
  the
• 32:56
  Titans
• 32:57
  go
• 32:57
  through
• 32:58
  all
• 32:58
  these
• 32:58
  struggles
• 32:59
  together
• 32:59
  and
• 32:59
  work
• 32:59
  together
• 33:00
  and
• 33:00
  you
• 33:00
  know,
• 33:00
  we
• 33:00
  brought
• 33:01
  up
• 33:01
  Judas
• 33:01
  Contract
• 33:01
  earlier.
• 33:02
  So
• 33:02
  for
• 33:03
  those
• 33:03
  you
• 33:03
  don't
• 33:03
  know,
• 33:03
  and
• 33:04
  I'm
• 33:04
  not
• 33:04
  going
• 33:04
  to
• 33:04
  spoil
• 33:04
  the
• 33:04
  whole
• 33:04
  story,
• 33:05
  but
• 33:05
  it's
• 33:05
  about
• 33:06
  one
• 33:06
  of
• 33:06
  the
• 33:07
  Titans
• 33:07
  who
• 33:07
  betrays
• 33:08
  them.
• 33:08
  And
• 33:08
  it's
• 33:09
  this
• 33:09
  like
• 33:09
  heart
• 33:09
  wrenching
• 33:10
  story.
• 33:10
  And
• 33:11
  you
• 33:11
  know,
• 33:11
  Tara
• 33:12
  is,
• 33:12
  you
• 33:13
  know,
• 33:13
  affiliated
• 33:14
  now
• 33:14
  with,
• 33:14
  with
• 33:15
  their
• 33:15
  greatest
• 33:15
  nemesis,
• 33:16
  Deathstroke.
• 33:17
  And
• 33:18
  it's
• 33:18
  a
• 33:18
  heartbreaking
• 33:19
  story.
• 33:19
  But
• 33:20
  even
• 33:20
  through
• 33:20
  all
• 33:21
  that,
• 33:21
  Beast
• 33:21
  Boy
• 33:22
  and
• 33:22
  the
• 33:22
  others
• 33:23
  still
• 33:23
  have
• 33:23
  this
• 33:24
  love
• 33:24
  and
• 33:24
  Compassion
• 33:25
  for
• 33:25
  Tara.
• 33:25
  And
• 33:25
  they
• 33:26
  are
• 33:26
  doing
• 33:26
  everything
• 33:26
  they
• 33:27
  can
• 33:27
  to
• 33:27
  try
• 33:27
  to
• 33:27
  save
• 33:28
  her
• 33:28
  and
• 33:28
  try
• 33:28
  to,
• 33:28
  you
• 33:28
  know,
• 33:28
  and
• 33:29
  as
• 33:29
  much
• 33:29
  as
• 33:29
  they
• 33:30
  feel
• 33:30
  betrayal,
• 33:31
  that's
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  thing
• 33:31
  that
• 33:31
  guides
• 33:32
  them
• 33:32
  throughout,
• 33:33
  is
• 33:33
  they're
• 33:34
  always
• 33:34
  a
• 33:35
  family,
• 33:35
  no
• 33:35
  matter
• 33:35
  what,
• 33:36
  and
• 33:36
  they're
• 33:37
  going
• 33:37
  to
• 33:37
  be
• 33:37
  there
• 33:37
  for
• 33:37
  each
• 33:38
  other,
• 33:38
  and
• 33:38
  they're
• 33:38
  going
• 33:38
  to
• 33:38
  be
• 33:38
  fighting
• 33:39
  for
• 33:39
  each
• 33:39
  other.
• 33:39
  I
• 33:40
  also
• 33:40
  have
• 33:40
  to
• 33:40
  say
• 33:41
  Teen
• 33:41
  Titans
• 33:41
  have
• 33:41
  some
• 33:41
  of
• 33:42
  the.
• 33:42
  Not
• 33:42
  that
• 33:42
  just,
• 33:42
  like,
• 33:42
  doesn't
• 33:43
  have
• 33:43
  great
• 33:43
  villains,
• 33:43
  too,
• 33:43
  but
• 33:44
  Teen
• 33:44
  Titans
• 33:44
  have
• 33:45
  Deathstroke,
• 33:46
  Trigon.
• 33:46
  Trigon
• 33:47
  being
• 33:47
  the
• 33:48
  father
• 33:48
  of
• 33:48
  one
• 33:48
  of
• 33:49
  the
• 33:49
  Titans.
• 33:49
  And
• 33:50
  that
• 33:50
  was
• 33:50
  such
• 33:51
  a
• 33:51
  personal
• 33:51
  connection
• 33:52
  there,
• 33:52
  where
• 33:53
  you.
• 33:53
  You
• 33:53
  know,
• 33:53
  particularly
• 33:54
  in
• 33:54
  the
• 33:54
  Teen
• 33:55
  Titans
• 33:55
  cartoon,
• 33:56
  you
• 33:56
  knew,
• 33:56
  like
• 33:57
  I
• 33:57
  said,
• 33:57
  Raven
• 33:57
  is
• 33:58
  kind
• 33:58
  of
• 33:58
  the.
• 33:58
  The
• 33:58
  emo,
• 33:59
  you
• 34:00
  know,
• 34:00
  like,
• 34:01
  likes
• 34:01
  to
• 34:01
  be
• 34:01
  more
• 34:01
  of
• 34:01
  a
• 34:02
  loner.
• 34:02
  Has
• 34:02
  trouble
• 34:03
  initially
• 34:04
  forming
• 34:05
  a
• 34:05
  team
• 34:05
  dynamic,
• 34:06
  but
• 34:06
  we
• 34:06
  later
• 34:07
  learn
• 34:07
  that
• 34:07
  that
• 34:07
  is
• 34:08
  because
• 34:08
  she
• 34:08
  has
• 34:08
  a
• 34:08
  very
• 34:08
  tragic
• 34:09
  origin
• 34:09
  where
• 34:09
  she
• 34:09
  is
• 34:10
  literally
• 34:10
  the
• 34:10
  daughter
• 34:11
  of
• 34:11
  a
• 34:11
  demon.
• 34:12
  And
• 34:12
  she
• 34:13
  has
• 34:13
  this
• 34:14
  destiny
• 34:14
  that
• 34:15
  she's
• 34:15
  trying
• 34:15
  to
• 34:15
  avoid
• 34:16
  of
• 34:16
  being
• 34:17
  basically
• 34:17
  the
• 34:18
  bringer
• 34:19
  of
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  apocalypse.
• 34:20
  And
• 34:20
  she's
• 34:20
  trying
• 34:20
  to
• 34:20
  run
• 34:21
  away
• 34:21
  from
• 34:21
  that.
• 34:21
  And
• 34:21
  it's
• 34:22
  really
• 34:22
  the
• 34:23
  love
• 34:23
  she
• 34:24
  finds
• 34:24
  with
• 34:24
  the
• 34:24
  other
• 34:25
  Titans
• 34:25
  that
• 34:25
  help
• 34:25
  save
• 34:26
  her
• 34:26
  from
• 34:26
  that.
• 34:26
  And
• 34:27
  I
• 34:27
  love
• 34:27
  that
• 34:28
  that
• 34:28
  that's
• 34:29
  the
• 34:29
  core
• 34:29
  of
• 34:29
  who
• 34:29
  the
• 34:29
  Titans
• 34:30
  are.
• 34:30
  So
• 34:30
  if
• 34:31
  I
• 34:31
  had
• 34:31
  to,
• 34:32
  you
• 34:32
  know,
• 34:32
  looking
• 34:32
  at,
• 34:33
  you
• 34:33
  know,
• 34:33
  while
• 34:33
  the.
• 34:34
  The
• 34:34
  Justice
• 34:34
  League
• 34:34
  saves
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  world
• 34:35
  plenty
• 34:35
  of
• 34:35
  times,
• 34:35
  yes,
• 34:36
  they
• 34:36
  were
• 34:36
  there
• 34:36
  first.
• 34:37
  But
• 34:38
  when
• 34:38
  I
• 34:38
  think
• 34:38
  about
• 34:39
  which
• 34:39
  is
• 34:39
  a
• 34:39
  stronger
• 34:40
  team
• 34:41
  in
• 34:41
  terms
• 34:41
  of,
• 34:42
  you
• 34:42
  know,
• 34:43
  what
• 34:43
  really
• 34:44
  empowers
• 34:45
  them,
• 34:45
  I
• 34:45
  think
• 34:45
  it's
• 34:45
  the
• 34:46
  Titans,
• 34:46
  because
• 34:47
  they
• 34:47
  are,
• 34:48
  you
• 34:48
  know,
• 34:49
  bonded
• 34:49
  to
• 34:49
  each
• 34:50
  other
• 34:50
  out
• 34:50
  of
• 34:51
  love,
• 34:51
  out
• 34:51
  of
• 34:51
  family,
• 34:51
  out
• 34:52
  of
• 34:52
  loyalty.
• 34:53
  And
• 34:53
  the
• 34:54
  fact
• 34:54
  that
• 34:54
  they,
• 34:54
  you
• 34:55
  know,
• 34:55
  hang
• 34:55
  out
• 34:55
  together
• 34:56
  and
• 34:56
  do
• 34:56
  life
• 34:56
  together
• 34:57
  outside
• 34:57
  of
• 34:58
  just
• 34:58
  saving
• 34:58
  the
• 34:58
  world.
• 34:59
  That
• 34:59
  really
• 35:00
  spoke
• 35:00
  to
• 35:00
  me
• 35:00
  as
• 35:01
  a
• 35:01
  kid
• 35:01
  and
• 35:01
  really
• 35:01
  made
• 35:02
  me
• 35:02
  fall
• 35:02
  in
• 35:02
  love
• 35:02
  with
• 35:02
  them.
• 35:03
  You
• 35:03
  want
• 35:03
  to
• 35:04
  talk
• 35:04
  villains
• 35:05
  and
• 35:05
  you
• 35:05
  want
• 35:05
  to
• 35:06
  go
• 35:06
  in
• 35:06
  a
• 35:06
  fight
• 35:06
  between
• 35:06
  the
• 35:07
  Justice
• 35:07
  League
• 35:07
  and
• 35:07
  the
• 35:07
  Teen
• 35:08
  Titans,
• 35:08
  my
• 35:08
  friend,
• 35:09
  we
• 35:09
  talking.
• 35:10
  We're
• 35:10
  talking
• 35:10
  Darkseid,
• 35:11
  we're
• 35:11
  talking
• 35:12
  Eclipso,
• 35:13
  we're
• 35:13
  talking
• 35:14
  the
• 35:14
  Key,
• 35:14
  which
• 35:17
  we're
• 35:18
  talking.
• 35:19
  We're
• 35:20
  talking
• 35:20
  about
• 35:20
  Rachel
• 35:21
  Ghoul.
• 35:21
  Lex
• 35:22
  Luthor.
• 35:22
  Batman
• 35:23
  is
• 35:23
  his
• 35:23
  own
• 35:23
  worst
• 35:24
  enemy
• 35:24
  and
• 35:24
  his
• 35:25
  worst
• 35:25
  best
• 35:25
  friend.
• 35:26
  He
• 35:26
  almost
• 35:26
  brings
• 35:26
  down
• 35:27
  the
• 35:27
  entire
• 35:27
  Justice
• 35:27
  League
• 35:27
  because
• 35:28
  of
• 35:28
  Rachel
• 35:28
  Ghoul
• 35:29
  coming
• 35:29
  in
• 35:30
  and
• 35:30
  almost
• 35:30
  taking
• 35:30
  them
• 35:30
  down.
• 35:31
  You
• 35:31
  got
• 35:31
  the
• 35:31
  Queen
• 35:32
  of
• 35:32
  fables,
• 35:32
  you
• 35:32
  got
• 35:33
  D.C.
• 35:33
  editorial
• 35:34
  fighting
• 35:34
  against
• 35:35
  the
• 35:35
  Justice
• 35:35
  League
• 35:35
  itself,
• 35:36
  and
• 35:36
  yet
• 35:36
  they
• 35:36
  came
• 35:37
  out
• 35:37
  on
• 35:37
  top.
• 35:38
  You
• 35:38
  want
• 35:38
  to
• 35:38
  come
• 35:38
  with
• 35:39
  villains?
• 35:39
  Okay,
• 35:40
  sure.
• 35:40
  Yeah.
• 35:40
  The
• 35:40
  Titans
• 35:41
  are
• 35:41
  the
• 35:41
  winners
• 35:41
  here.
• 35:43
  I
• 35:43
  love
• 35:43
  that
• 35:43
  you
• 35:43
  just
• 35:43
  named
• 35:44
  DC
• 35:44
  Editorial
• 35:45
  as
• 35:45
  a
• 35:45
  villain.
• 35:45
  That's.
• 35:46
  That's
• 35:46
  pretty
• 35:46
  great.
• 35:46
  Yes.
• 35:47
  Yeah.
• 35:47
  No,
• 35:48
  I
• 35:48
  understand.
• 35:48
  Like
• 35:49
  I.
• 35:49
  That
• 35:50
  was
• 35:50
  a
• 35:50
  one.
• 35:51
  There
• 35:51
  are
• 35:51
  some
• 35:51
  great
• 35:51
  villains
• 35:52
  here,
• 35:52
  but.
• 35:53
  But
• 35:53
  it's
• 35:53
  like
• 35:54
  with
• 35:54
  Dragon
• 35:55
  with.
• 35:55
  And
• 35:56
  then
• 35:56
  with
• 35:56
  Destro
• 35:56
  taking
• 35:57
  Tara
• 35:58
  on
• 35:58
  as
• 35:59
  is
• 35:59
  as
• 36:00
  his
• 36:00
  apprentice,
• 36:01
  it's
• 36:01
  again,
• 36:01
  it
• 36:02
  adds
• 36:02
  such
• 36:02
  an
• 36:02
  emotional
• 36:03
  catharsis
• 36:04
  to
• 36:04
  it.
• 36:04
  Yes,
• 36:04
  Justice
• 36:05
  League
• 36:05
  has
• 36:05
  some
• 36:05
  big
• 36:05
  baddies
• 36:06
  out
• 36:06
  there,
• 36:06
  but
• 36:07
  a
• 36:07
  lot
• 36:07
  of
• 36:07
  times,
• 36:08
  okay,
• 36:08
  they're
• 36:08
  just
• 36:08
  big
• 36:09
  bads.
• 36:09
  There's
• 36:09
  not
• 36:09
  that
• 36:10
  like,
• 36:10
  you
• 36:10
  know,
• 36:11
  it's
• 36:11
  not
• 36:11
  like
• 36:11
  Dark
• 36:12
  side
• 36:12
  is
• 36:12
  Superman's
• 36:12
  father
• 36:13
  or,
• 36:14
  you
• 36:14
  know,
• 36:14
  one
• 36:14
  of
• 36:14
  them
• 36:15
  has
• 36:15
  like
• 36:15
  this
• 36:15
  deep
• 36:16
  rooted
• 36:16
  connection
• 36:16
  to
• 36:16
  them.
• 36:17
  I
• 36:17
  think
• 36:17
  it
• 36:17
  makes
• 36:17
  it
• 36:17
  more
• 36:17
  tragic
• 36:18
  and
• 36:18
  again
• 36:19
  makes
• 36:19
  the
• 36:20
  team
• 36:20
  more
• 36:20
  powerful.
• 36:21
  That
• 36:21
  they
• 36:21
  can
• 36:21
  come
• 36:21
  through
• 36:22
  that
• 36:22
  when
• 36:22
  Trigon
• 36:23
  is
• 36:24
  Raven's
• 36:24
  father
• 36:25
  and
• 36:25
  they
• 36:25
  have
• 36:25
  to
• 36:25
  help
• 36:26
  her,
• 36:27
  you
• 36:27
  know,
• 36:27
  work
• 36:27
  through
• 36:27
  that
• 36:28
  and
• 36:28
  they
• 36:28
  tell
• 36:29
  her
• 36:29
  that
• 36:29
  you
• 36:30
  are
• 36:30
  not
• 36:30
  your
• 36:30
  father.
• 36:31
  You're
• 36:31
  not,
• 36:31
  you
• 36:32
  know,
• 36:32
  the
• 36:32
  destiny
• 36:32
  that
• 36:33
  he's
• 36:33
  laid
• 36:33
  out
• 36:33
  for
• 36:33
  you.
• 36:33
  You
• 36:34
  could
• 36:34
  be
• 36:34
  your
• 36:34
  own
• 36:35
  hero.
• 36:36
  And
• 36:36
  she
• 36:36
  chooses
• 36:36
  that.
• 36:37
  And
• 36:37
  it's
• 36:37
  beautiful.
• 36:37
  So
• 36:38
  I.
• 36:38
  That's
• 36:39
  where
• 36:39
  it's.
• 36:39
  It's
• 36:40
  the
• 36:40
  emotional
• 36:40
  catharsis
• 36:41
  of
• 36:41
  their
• 36:42
  battles
• 36:42
  that
• 36:42
  I
• 36:42
  think
• 36:42
  makes
• 36:43
  it
• 36:43
  even
• 36:43
  stronger.
• 36:44
  I
• 36:44
  will
• 36:44
  say
• 36:46
  you
• 36:46
  made
• 36:46
  me
• 36:46
  think
• 36:47
  I
• 36:47
  got
• 36:47
  traumatized
• 36:48
  twice
• 36:48
  by
• 36:48
  the
• 36:49
  whole
• 36:49
  terror
• 36:49
  thing.
• 36:51
  You
• 36:51
  know,
• 36:51
  my
• 36:52
  number
• 36:52
  one
• 36:52
  Crush
• 36:52
  is
• 36:53
  in
• 36:53
  D.C.
• 36:53
  has
• 36:54
  always
• 36:54
  been
• 36:54
  Starfire.
• 36:54
  But
• 36:55
  like,
• 36:55
  Tara
• 36:55
  was
• 36:55
  pretty
• 36:56
  close.
• 36:56
  And
• 36:57
  then
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  betrayal.
• 36:58
  Yeah,
• 36:58
  it
• 36:59
  should
• 36:59
  have
• 36:59
  been
• 36:59
  built
• 36:59
  up
• 36:59
  a
• 36:59
  little
• 37:00
  better
• 37:00
  in
• 37:00
  the
• 37:00
  TV
• 37:01
  show.
• 37:01
  You
• 37:01
  know,
• 37:01
  that's
• 37:02
  its
• 37:02
  own
• 37:02
  separate
• 37:02
  thing.
• 37:03
  But
• 37:03
  I
• 37:03
  can
• 37:04
  see
• 37:04
  that
• 37:04
  looking
• 37:04
  back
• 37:05
  at
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  moment,
• 37:05
  it's
• 37:05
  like,
• 37:06
  no.
• 37:06
  Why?
• 37:06
  You
• 37:07
  and
• 37:07
  Beast
• 37:07
  Boy
• 37:07
  were
• 37:07
  like,
• 37:07
  getting
• 37:08
  along.
• 37:08
  Like
• 37:08
  you
• 37:08
  wouldn't
• 37:09
  love,
• 37:09
  right?
• 37:09
  It's
• 37:09
  like,
• 37:10
  no,
• 37:10
  it's
• 37:10
  just
• 37:10
  part
• 37:10
  of
• 37:10
  the.
• 37:11
  Part
• 37:11
  of
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  Griff.
• 37:12
  And
• 37:13
  then
• 37:13
  I
• 37:13
  was
• 37:14
  like.
• 37:14
  When
• 37:14
  I
• 37:14
  reread
• 37:15
  for
• 37:15
  the
• 37:15
  first
• 37:15
  time
• 37:16
  the
• 37:16
  new
• 37:16
  Teen
• 37:16
  Titans
• 37:16
  series,
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  was
• 37:17
  like,
• 37:17
  okay,
• 37:18
  well,
• 37:18
  surely
• 37:19
  they
• 37:19
  wouldn't
• 37:19
  make
• 37:19
  it
• 37:19
  happen
• 37:19
  here
• 37:20
  too,
• 37:20
  because
• 37:20
  I
• 37:20
  was
• 37:20
  young
• 37:20
  and
• 37:21
  dumb
• 37:21
  and.
• 37:22
  And
• 37:22
  they
• 37:22
  broke
• 37:23
  my
• 37:23
  heart
• 37:23
  yet
• 37:23
  again.
• 37:24
  It's
• 37:25
  like,
• 37:25
  oh,
• 37:25
  how
• 37:25
  could
• 37:25
  you
• 37:26
  do
• 37:26
  that
• 37:26
  to
• 37:26
  me?
• 37:27
  And
• 37:27
  I'm
• 37:27
  trying
• 37:27
  to
• 37:27
  think
• 37:28
  of,
• 37:28
  is
• 37:28
  there
• 37:28
  a
• 37:28
  Justice
• 37:29
  League
• 37:29
  story
• 37:30
  where
• 37:31
  that
• 37:31
  has
• 37:31
  happened
• 37:32
  to
• 37:32
  me?
• 37:35
  Not.
• 37:36
  I
• 37:36
  mean,
• 37:36
  there
• 37:37
  are
• 37:37
  parts
• 37:37
  of
• 37:37
  like
• 37:37
  the
• 37:37
  Cadmus
• 37:38
  arc
• 37:38
  where
• 37:38
  it's
• 37:39
  kind
• 37:39
  of,
• 37:39
  you
• 37:39
  know,
• 37:39
  like,
• 37:40
  is
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  team
• 37:40
  gonna
• 37:41
  break
• 37:41
  up
• 37:41
  or
• 37:41
  anything
• 37:42
  like
• 37:42
  that?
• 37:42
  And
• 37:42
  you
• 37:42
  don't
• 37:42
  want
• 37:42
  that
• 37:43
  to
• 37:43
  happen.
• 37:43
  But
• 37:43
  I
• 37:44
  can't
• 37:44
  really
• 37:44
  think
• 37:44
  of
• 37:44
  a
• 37:45
  comics
• 37:46
  run
• 37:47
  once.
• 37:47
  Once
• 37:47
  again
• 37:48
  without.
• 37:48
  I'm
• 37:48
  not
• 37:48
  the
• 37:48
  most
• 37:49
  extensive
• 37:49
  in
• 37:50
  my
• 37:50
  DC
• 37:51
  JLA
• 37:51
  lore,
• 37:52
  so
• 37:52
  maybe
• 37:52
  there's
• 37:52
  something
• 37:53
  I
• 37:53
  forget
• 37:53
  about.
• 37:53
  A
• 37:53
  Tower
• 37:54
  of
• 37:54
  Babel.
• 37:54
  I'll
• 37:54
  put
• 37:54
  that
• 37:54
  one
• 37:55
  out
• 37:55
  there.
• 37:56
  Yeah,
• 37:56
  yeah.
• 37:57
  As
• 37:58
  like
• 37:58
  something
• 37:58
  that
• 37:58
  could
• 37:58
  have
• 37:59
  legitimately
• 37:59
  destroyed
• 38:00
  everyone's
• 38:00
  friendship
• 38:01
  forever
• 38:01
  if
• 38:01
  we
• 38:01
  were
• 38:02
  actually
• 38:02
  not
• 38:02
  in
• 38:03
  a
• 38:03
  continuity
• 38:03
  where
• 38:03
  a
• 38:04
  new
• 38:04
  writer
• 38:04
  can
• 38:04
  come
• 38:04
  in
• 38:04
  and,
• 38:05
  you
• 38:05
  know,
• 38:05
  fix
• 38:06
  things
• 38:06
  up.
• 38:06
  And
• 38:06
  I'm
• 38:07
  not
• 38:07
  saying
• 38:07
  that
• 38:07
  as
• 38:07
  a
• 38:07
  bad
• 38:07
  thing.
• 38:08
  I'm
• 38:08
  saying,
• 38:08
  like,
• 38:09
  if
• 38:09
  they
• 38:09
  just
• 38:09
  kept
• 38:09
  going
• 38:10
  based
• 38:10
  off
• 38:10
  of
• 38:10
  that,
• 38:11
  why
• 38:11
  would
• 38:11
  these
• 38:11
  people
• 38:11
  stay
• 38:12
  friends?
• 38:13
  You
• 38:13
  can
• 38:13
  rebuild
• 38:13
  the
• 38:13
  relationships,
• 38:14
  and
• 38:14
  I'm
• 38:14
  glad
• 38:14
  they
• 38:14
  do
• 38:15
  because
• 38:15
  I
• 38:15
  don't
• 38:15
  want
• 38:15
  them
• 38:15
  to
• 38:15
  stay
• 38:16
  hating
• 38:16
  each
• 38:16
  other
• 38:16
  forever.
• 38:17
  But
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  idea
• 38:18
  that
• 38:19
  you
• 38:19
  have
• 38:19
  someone
• 38:20
  who
• 38:20
  does
• 38:20
  legitimately
• 38:21
  love
• 38:21
  you
• 38:21
  as
• 38:21
  a
• 38:21
  friend,
• 38:22
  but
• 38:22
  also
• 38:22
  knows
• 38:23
  what
• 38:23
  you
• 38:23
  can
• 38:23
  do
• 38:24
  and
• 38:25
  has
• 38:25
  plans
• 38:26
  to
• 38:26
  take
• 38:26
  you
• 38:27
  out,
• 38:27
  knowing
• 38:28
  what
• 38:28
  could
• 38:28
  happen
• 38:28
  if
• 38:29
  you
• 38:29
  go
• 38:29
  bad
• 38:30
  or,
• 38:30
  you
• 38:31
  know,
• 38:31
  someone
• 38:31
  mind
• 38:31
  controls
• 38:32
  you
• 38:32
  and
• 38:32
  there's
• 38:32
  no
• 38:32
  way
• 38:32
  to
• 38:32
  get
• 38:33
  rid
• 38:33
  of
• 38:33
  it.
• 38:33
  And
• 38:33
  then
• 38:34
  the
• 38:34
  villain
• 38:34
  comes
• 38:34
  in,
• 38:35
  takes
• 38:35
  those
• 38:35
  plans
• 38:35
  for
• 38:36
  his
• 38:36
  own
• 38:36
  ends,
• 38:36
  and
• 38:37
  almost
• 38:37
  kills
• 38:37
  you
• 38:37
  all.
• 38:38
  Like,
• 38:39
  that's
• 38:39
  a
• 38:39
  huge.
• 38:41
  Just.
• 38:42
  What's.
• 38:42
  What
• 38:42
  I'm
• 38:42
  looking
• 38:42
  for.
• 38:43
  Just
• 38:43
  like
• 38:43
  a
• 38:43
  grief
• 38:44
  that
• 38:44
  comes
• 38:44
  from
• 38:44
  something
• 38:45
  like
• 38:45
  that.
• 38:45
  You
• 38:45
  know,
• 38:45
  both
• 38:45
  as
• 38:46
  the
• 38:46
  characters
• 38:46
  in
• 38:47
  there,
• 38:47
  but
• 38:47
  as
• 38:47
  a
• 38:47
  reader,
• 38:48
  too,
• 38:48
  also.
• 38:48
  I
• 38:49
  know
• 38:49
  I'm
• 38:49
  kind
• 38:49
  of
• 38:49
  helping
• 38:49
  your
• 38:50
  argument
• 38:50
  here,
• 38:50
  but
• 38:50
  the.
• 38:51
  The
• 38:51
  just,
• 38:51
  like,
• 38:52
  storyline
• 38:52
  that
• 38:52
  really
• 38:52
  broke
• 38:53
  me.
• 38:53
  Not
• 38:53
  from
• 38:53
  the
• 38:53
  comics,
• 38:53
  but.
• 38:54
  But
• 38:54
  in
• 38:55
  the
• 38:55
  Animated
• 38:55
  series,
• 38:55
  the
• 38:56
  way
• 38:56
  that
• 38:56
  the
• 38:56
  original
• 38:57
  one
• 38:57
  ended
• 38:58
  with
• 38:58
  Hawk
• 38:59
  Girl's
• 38:59
  betrayal
• 39:00
  initially
• 39:01
  bringing,
• 39:02
  oh,
• 39:03
  the
• 39:03
  whole
• 39:03
  Star
• 39:04
  Crossed
• 39:05
  series
• 39:05
  there.
• 39:05
  It
• 39:05
  was
• 39:06
  like,
• 39:06
  three
• 39:06
  episodes.
• 39:07
  That
• 39:07
  is
• 39:07
  some
• 39:07
  of
• 39:07
  the
• 39:08
  most
• 39:08
  beautiful
• 39:09
  TV
• 39:09
  in
• 39:10
  the
• 39:10
  DC
• 39:10
  universe
• 39:10
  you'll
• 39:10
  ever
• 39:11
  see.
• 39:11
  Thankfully,
• 39:12
  they
• 39:12
  were
• 39:12
  able
• 39:13
  to
• 39:13
  continue
• 39:13
  that
• 39:14
  story,
• 39:14
  not
• 39:14
  leave
• 39:14
  it
• 39:15
  on
• 39:15
  that
• 39:15
  thread
• 39:16
  in
• 39:16
  Justice
• 39:16
  League
• 39:16
  Unlimited,
• 39:17
  but
• 39:17
  still
• 39:17
  that
• 39:18
  you
• 39:18
  know,
• 39:18
  that
• 39:19
  Jon
• 39:19
  Stewart
• 39:20
  and
• 39:20
  Hawker
• 39:20
  all
• 39:20
  had
• 39:20
  this
• 39:21
  relationship
• 39:21
  and
• 39:21
  then
• 39:21
  that
• 39:22
  was
• 39:22
  a
• 39:22
  gut
• 39:22
  punch.
• 39:22
  So.
• 39:23
  I
• 39:23
  know,
• 39:23
  I
• 39:23
  know
• 39:23
  I'm
• 39:24
  helping
• 39:24
  your
• 39:24
  argument
• 39:24
  there,
• 39:25
  but
• 39:25
  I
• 39:25
  did
• 39:25
  have
• 39:25
  to
• 39:25
  point
• 39:26
  that
• 39:26
  one
• 39:26
  out
• 39:26
  because
• 39:26
  it
• 39:26
  is
• 39:26
  a
• 39:26
  great
• 39:27
  story.
• 39:29
  We
• 39:29
  both
• 39:29
  love
• 39:29
  these
• 39:29
  teams.
• 39:31
  Like,
• 39:31
  I
• 39:32
  think
• 39:32
  the
• 39:32
  wrestling
• 39:32
  term
• 39:32
  is
• 39:32
  gayfabe.
• 39:33
  We're
• 39:34
  gonna
• 39:34
  break
• 39:34
  it.
• 39:34
  Like,
• 39:34
  we
• 39:35
  love
• 39:35
  both
• 39:35
  these
• 39:35
  games.
• 39:36
  We
• 39:36
  do.
• 39:36
  No.
• 39:37
  And
• 39:37
  that.
• 39:37
  Well,
• 39:37
  it's
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  thing
• 39:38
  about
• 39:38
  this
• 39:38
  whole
• 39:39
  series,
• 39:39
  we're
• 39:39
  doing,
• 39:40
  like,
• 39:40
  yes,
• 39:40
  again,
• 39:41
  we're
• 39:41
  kind
• 39:41
  of
• 39:41
  picking
• 39:42
  sides
• 39:42
  for
• 39:42
  the
• 39:42
  fun
• 39:42
  of
• 39:42
  it.
• 39:43
  But
• 39:43
  the
• 39:43
  reality
• 39:44
  is
• 39:44
  that
• 39:44
  these
• 39:45
  are
• 39:45
  all
• 39:45
  fandoms
• 39:45
  we
• 39:46
  really
• 39:46
  embrace.
• 39:46
  It's
• 39:47
  not
• 39:47
  like
• 39:47
  there's
• 39:48
  one
• 39:48
  we're
• 39:48
  just,
• 39:49
  like,
• 39:49
  trying
• 39:49
  to
• 39:49
  take
• 39:50
  down
• 39:50
  where,
• 39:50
  you
• 39:50
  know,
• 39:51
  we're
• 39:51
  still
• 39:51
  finding
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  good
• 39:52
  in
• 39:52
  it
• 39:52
  all.
• 39:52
  Yeah.
• 41:07
  I
• 41:07
  also,
• 41:07
  you
• 41:07
  know,
• 41:07
  I
• 41:07
  know
• 41:08
  we're
• 41:08
  talking
• 41:08
  with
• 41:08
  Teen
• 41:08
  Titans
• 41:09
  a
• 41:09
  lot
• 41:09
  about,
• 41:09
  you
• 41:10
  know,
• 41:10
  the
• 41:10
  classic
• 41:11
  team
• 41:11
  of
• 41:11
  Starfire,
• 41:11
  Cyborg,
• 41:12
  Raven,
• 41:13
  Beast
• 41:13
  Boy,
• 41:14
  Robin.
• 41:14
  But
• 41:15
  another
• 41:16
  run
• 41:16
  that
• 41:16
  I
• 41:17
  really
• 41:17
  love
• 41:17
  is
• 41:17
  the
• 41:18
  Def
• 41:18
  Johns
• 41:19
  one
• 41:19
  from
• 41:19
  the
• 41:19
  early
• 41:19
  2000s.
• 41:20
  So
• 41:20
  that
• 41:20
  had
• 41:21
  Connor
• 41:21
  Kent,
• 41:22
  Super
• 41:22
  Boy.
• 41:23
  It
• 41:23
  had
• 41:24
  Tim
• 41:24
  Drake
• 41:24
  as
• 41:24
  Robin,
• 41:26
  Cassie
• 41:27
  as
• 41:27
  Wonder
• 41:27
  Girl.
• 41:29
  Who
• 41:29
  else
• 41:29
  was
• 41:29
  in
• 41:29
  There,
• 41:30
  like,
• 41:31
  Cyborg
• 41:31
  and
• 41:31
  Starfire
• 41:32
  were
• 41:32
  kind
• 41:32
  of
• 41:32
  like
• 41:32
  leaders
• 41:32
  at
• 41:33
  that
• 41:33
  point.
• 41:34
  And
• 41:34
  then
• 41:35
  Impulse
• 41:35
  was
• 41:35
  also
• 41:36
  there
• 41:36
  as
• 41:37
  good
• 41:37
  fly.
• 41:37
  And
• 41:37
  so,
• 41:38
  you
• 41:38
  know,
• 41:38
  that.
• 41:38
  That
• 41:38
  was
• 41:38
  another
• 41:39
  one
• 41:39
  of
• 41:39
  my
• 41:39
  favorite
• 41:39
  ones.
• 41:39
  Again,
• 41:40
  what
• 41:40
  I
• 41:40
  like
• 41:40
  about
• 41:40
  the
• 41:40
  Titans
• 41:41
  is
• 41:41
  that
• 41:42
  they
• 41:42
  allow
• 41:42
  them
• 41:42
  to
• 41:43
  grow
• 41:43
  up.
• 41:43
  And
• 41:43
  so,
• 41:44
  you
• 41:44
  know,
• 41:44
  the,
• 41:45
  like,
• 41:45
  at
• 41:45
  that
• 41:45
  time,
• 41:46
  it's
• 41:46
  like,
• 41:46
  okay,
• 41:46
  the
• 41:47
  original
• 41:47
  ones
• 41:47
  from.
• 41:48
  Well,
• 41:48
  not
• 41:48
  original,
• 41:49
  but
• 41:49
  the
• 41:49
  new
• 41:49
  Teen
• 41:49
  titans
• 41:49
  from
• 41:50
  the
• 41:50
  80s
• 41:50
  had
• 41:50
  grown
• 41:51
  up
• 41:51
  and
• 41:51
  become
• 41:51
  adults.
• 41:51
  So
• 41:52
  they're
• 41:52
  either
• 41:52
  their
• 41:53
  leaders
• 41:53
  for
• 41:55
  the
• 41:55
  Titans
• 41:55
  or
• 41:56
  Nightwings
• 41:56
  doing
• 41:56
  his
• 41:56
  own
• 41:57
  thing.
• 41:57
  And
• 41:57
  now
• 41:57
  there's
• 41:57
  this
• 41:58
  new
• 41:58
  generation
• 41:58
  of
• 41:58
  Teen
• 41:58
  Titans,
• 41:59
  and
• 42:00
  it
• 42:00
  ultimately
• 42:01
  makes
• 42:01
  me,
• 42:01
  you
• 42:02
  know,
• 42:02
  wish
• 42:02
  there
• 42:02
  was.
• 42:03
  I
• 42:03
  mean,
• 42:03
  I
• 42:03
  guess
• 42:03
  there
• 42:04
  are
• 42:04
  versions,
• 42:04
  but
• 42:04
  I
• 42:04
  want
• 42:05
  to
• 42:05
  see,
• 42:05
  like,
• 42:05
  a
• 42:05
  Justice
• 42:05
  League
• 42:06
  book
• 42:06
  where
• 42:06
  you
• 42:07
  have,
• 42:07
  like,
• 42:08
  you
• 42:08
  know,
• 42:08
  all
• 42:08
  the
• 42:09
  originals
• 42:09
  as
• 42:10
  senior
• 42:10
  citizens
• 42:11
  and,
• 42:11
  like,
• 42:11
  advisors,
• 42:12
  and
• 42:12
  then.
• 42:12
  And
• 42:13
  then
• 42:13
  they're
• 42:13
  advising
• 42:14
  that.
• 42:14
  So,
• 42:14
  you
• 42:14
  know,
• 42:15
  have
• 42:15
  Wally
• 42:15
  become
• 42:16
  like,
• 42:16
  you
• 42:16
  know,
• 42:16
  the
• 42:16
  Flash
• 42:17
  of
• 42:17
  the
• 42:17
  Justice
• 42:17
  League?
• 42:17
  I
• 42:17
  mean,
• 42:18
  I
• 42:18
  know
• 42:18
  obviously
• 42:18
  he
• 42:18
  has
• 42:18
  in
• 42:19
  points,
• 42:19
  but
• 42:20
  let
• 42:20
  Barry
• 42:20
  become
• 42:21
  a
• 42:21
  senior
• 42:21
  citizen.
• 42:21
  Because
• 42:22
  it
• 42:22
  seems
• 42:22
  like
• 42:22
  every
• 42:23
  time
• 42:23
  they
• 42:23
  do
• 42:23
  a
• 42:24
  cartoon,
• 42:24
  a
• 42:24
  comic.
• 42:25
  Yeah.
• 42:25
  The
• 42:25
  Titans
• 42:26
  grow
• 42:26
  up,
• 42:27
  but
• 42:27
  then
• 42:27
  the
• 42:27
  Justice
• 42:28
  League
• 42:28
  always
• 42:28
  remains
• 42:28
  stagnant.
• 42:29
  Like,
• 42:29
  they're
• 42:29
  always
• 42:30
  in
• 42:30
  their
• 42:30
  30s
• 42:31
  and
• 42:31
  40s.
• 42:32
  So
• 42:32
  I
• 42:32
  kind
• 42:32
  of
• 42:32
  want
• 42:32
  them
• 42:33
  to
• 42:33
  see
• 42:33
  that.
• 42:33
  To
• 42:33
  see
• 42:34
  that
• 42:34
  happen
• 42:34
  as
• 42:34
  an
• 42:34
  experiment.
• 42:35
  See,
• 42:35
  like,
• 42:36
  you
• 42:36
  know,
• 42:36
  yeah,
• 42:36
  Justice
• 42:37
  League
• 42:37
  retired
• 42:37
  and
• 42:38
  then
• 42:38
  New
• 42:38
  Justice
• 42:38
  League
• 42:39
  and
• 42:39
  see
• 42:39
  what
• 42:39
  that
• 42:39
  would
• 42:39
  look
• 42:40
  like.
• 42:40
  Yeah,
• 42:41
  I
• 42:41
  mean,
• 42:41
  I
• 42:41
  get
• 42:41
  it.
• 42:41
  You
• 42:42
  always
• 42:42
  have
• 42:42
  to
• 42:42
  have
• 42:42
  the
• 42:42
  trinity
• 42:43
  there.
• 42:43
  But
• 42:43
  if
• 42:44
  they
• 42:44
  wanted
• 42:44
  to
• 42:44
  do
• 42:44
  something
• 42:44
  interesting,
• 42:45
  I
• 42:45
  think
• 42:45
  that
• 42:45
  would
• 42:45
  be
• 42:46
  a
• 42:46
  really
• 42:46
  cool
• 42:46
  idea.
• 42:48
  That's
• 42:48
  just
• 42:48
  dealing
• 42:48
  with
• 42:48
  comic
• 42:49
  books
• 42:49
  in
• 42:49
  general.
• 42:49
  You
• 42:50
  have
• 42:50
  comic
• 42:50
  book
• 42:50
  time.
• 42:51
  Like,
• 42:52
  I
• 42:52
  think
• 42:53
  on
• 42:53
  the
• 42:53
  Marvel
• 42:53
  side
• 42:53
  of
• 42:53
  things,
• 42:54
  the
• 42:55
  status
• 42:55
  quo
• 42:55
  now.
• 42:55
  It's.
• 42:55
  It's
• 42:56
  always
• 42:56
  been
• 42:56
  like
• 42:56
  13
• 42:57
  years,
• 42:57
  I
• 42:57
  think,
• 42:58
  since
• 42:58
  the
• 42:59
  Fantastic
• 42:59
  Four
• 42:59
  first
• 43:00
  came
• 43:00
  on
• 43:00
  the
• 43:00
  scene
• 43:01
  is
• 43:01
  their
• 43:01
  thing.
• 43:02
  And.
• 43:02
  And
• 43:02
  I
• 43:02
  think
• 43:02
  for
• 43:03
  New
• 43:03
  52,
• 43:03
  the
• 43:04
  idea
• 43:04
  was
• 43:04
  that
• 43:04
  Batman
• 43:05
  had
• 43:05
  been
• 43:05
  active
• 43:06
  for
• 43:06
  five
• 43:06
  years.
• 43:07
  Yeah,
• 43:07
  that
• 43:08
  makes
• 43:08
  sense.
• 43:08
  Yeah.
• 43:08
  Yeah,
• 43:09
  yeah.
• 43:10
  So
• 43:11
  it
• 43:11
  is
• 43:11
  what
• 43:11
  it
• 43:12
  is.
• 43:12
  Once
• 43:12
  again,
• 43:13
  80
• 43:13
  plus
• 43:13
  years
• 43:13
  of
• 43:14
  continuity.
• 43:15
  You're
• 43:15
  gonna
• 43:15
  have
• 43:15
  to
• 43:15
  accept
• 43:16
  the
• 43:16
  fact
• 43:16
  that
• 43:17
  that's
• 43:17
  a
• 43:17
  thing,
• 43:17
  or
• 43:18
  you
• 43:18
  don't
• 43:18
  aboard.
• 43:19
  You
• 43:19
  kind
• 43:19
  of
• 43:19
  do
• 43:19
  what
• 43:20
  Young
• 43:20
  justice
• 43:20
  did
• 43:21
  as
• 43:21
  a
• 43:21
  series
• 43:21
  where
• 43:22
  both
• 43:22
  grew
• 43:22
  up
• 43:23
  together.
• 43:24
  Like,
• 43:24
  you
• 43:24
  show
• 43:24
  them
• 43:25
  aging
• 43:25
  a
• 43:25
  little
• 43:25
  more
• 43:25
  in
• 43:26
  different
• 43:26
  ways,
• 43:26
  and
• 43:26
  that's
• 43:27
  what
• 43:27
  you
• 43:27
  can
• 43:27
  do
• 43:27
  in
• 43:27
  your
• 43:27
  own
• 43:27
  separate
• 43:28
  continuity.
• 43:29
  But
• 43:29
  comics
• 43:30
  proper,
• 43:30
  it's
• 43:30
  a
• 43:30
  lot
• 43:31
  harder
• 43:31
  to
• 43:31
  do
• 43:31
  that.
• 43:32
  So
• 43:32
  I
• 43:32
  get
• 43:32
  it.
• 43:33
  It
• 43:33
  would
• 43:33
  be
• 43:34
  really
• 43:34
  interesting
• 43:34
  to
• 43:34
  see,
• 43:35
  you
• 43:35
  know,
• 43:35
  and
• 43:35
  like,
• 43:36
  again,
• 43:36
  it
• 43:36
  could
• 43:36
  be
• 43:36
  in
• 43:36
  an
• 43:36
  animated
• 43:37
  series
• 43:37
  being
• 43:37
  its
• 43:38
  own
• 43:38
  thing.
• 43:38
  But,
• 43:38
  yeah,
• 43:38
  I.
• 43:39
  I
• 43:39
  want
• 43:39
  to
• 43:39
  see
• 43:39
  that,
• 43:39
  like,
• 43:40
  you
• 43:40
  know,
• 43:40
  Superman
• 43:41
  about
• 43:41
  Man
• 43:41
  Wonder
• 43:41
  Woman
• 43:41
  hanging
• 43:42
  out
• 43:42
  in
• 43:42
  a
• 43:42
  retirement
• 43:43
  home
• 43:43
  and
• 43:43
  advising
• 43:44
  this
• 43:44
  that,
• 43:44
  you
• 43:44
  know,
• 43:45
  the,
• 43:45
  the,
• 43:45
  like
• 43:45
  original
• 43:46
  Titans
• 43:46
  are
• 43:46
  now
• 43:46
  the
• 43:47
  Justice
• 43:47
  League
• 43:47
  and
• 43:48
  then
• 43:48
  there's
• 43:48
  new
• 43:48
  generation
• 43:49
  two
• 43:49
  Titans.
• 43:49
  I
• 43:49
  just,
• 43:49
  I
• 43:50
  want
• 43:50
  to
• 43:50
  see
• 43:50
  that
• 43:50
  happen.
• 43:51
  Even
• 43:51
  if
• 43:51
  it's
• 43:51
  a
• 43:52
  one
• 43:52
  off
• 43:52
  movie
• 43:52
  or
• 43:52
  something.
• 43:53
  I
• 43:53
  know
• 43:54
  we're
• 43:54
  giving
• 43:54
  James
• 43:54
  Gunn
• 43:55
  Kingdom
• 43:55
  Gum
• 43:55
  sequel
• 43:56
  winner.
• 43:57
  Right,
• 43:57
  right.
• 43:58
  We're
• 43:58
  giving
• 43:58
  James
• 43:58
  Gunn
• 43:59
  plenty
• 43:59
  of
• 43:59
  ideas
• 43:59
  because
• 44:00
  I'm
• 44:00
  sure
• 44:00
  he
• 44:00
  listens
• 44:01
  to
• 44:01
  our
• 44:01
  podcast
• 44:01
  and.
• 44:02
  Well,
• 44:02
  you
• 44:02
  know,
• 44:02
  I
• 44:03
  want
• 44:03
  to
• 44:03
  see
• 44:03
  that
• 44:03
  happen.
• 44:04
  Oh,
• 44:04
  yes,
• 44:04
  absolutely.
• 44:05
  Speaking
• 44:06
  of,
• 44:06
  they
• 44:06
  are
• 44:06
  developing
• 44:07
  Teen
• 44:08
  Titans
• 44:08
  live
• 44:08
  action
• 44:08
  movie
• 44:09
  in
• 44:10
  that
• 44:10
  universe
• 44:10
  as
• 44:10
  well,
• 44:10
  which
• 44:11
  I'm
• 44:11
  really,
• 44:11
  I.
• 44:12
  I'm
• 44:12
  really
• 44:12
  hopeful
• 44:13
  for.
• 44:13
  I
• 44:13
  think,
• 44:13
  I
• 44:13
  believe
• 44:14
  it's.
• 44:14
  The
• 44:14
  writer
• 44:14
  of
• 44:15
  the
• 44:15
  upcoming
• 44:15
  Supergirl
• 44:16
  movie
• 44:16
  is
• 44:17
  writing
• 44:17
  that
• 44:17
  as
• 44:17
  well.
• 44:18
  And
• 44:18
  that
• 44:18
  was
• 44:18
  one
• 44:18
  that
• 44:19
  James
• 44:19
  Gunn
• 44:19
  loved
• 44:20
  the
• 44:20
  script
• 44:20
  so
• 44:20
  much
• 44:20
  for
• 44:21
  Supergirl
• 44:22
  that,
• 44:22
  you
• 44:22
  know,
• 44:22
  he.
• 44:23
  I
• 44:23
  immediately
• 44:24
  greenlit
• 44:24
  her
• 44:25
  for
• 44:25
  other
• 44:25
  projects.
• 44:26
  So
• 44:26
  that's
• 44:26
  really
• 44:26
  exciting.
• 44:27
  Yeah,
• 44:28
  very
• 44:28
  cool.
• 44:29
  But
• 44:29
  yeah,
• 44:30
  so
• 44:30
  I
• 44:31
  was
• 44:31
  trying
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  think,
• 44:31
  and
• 44:31
  you
• 44:32
  probably
• 44:32
  know
• 44:32
  a
• 44:32
  little
• 44:32
  more
• 44:32
  than
• 44:32
  I.
• 44:33
  Actual
• 44:34
  fights
• 44:34
  between
• 44:35
  the
• 44:35
  teams,
• 44:35
  you
• 44:35
  know,
• 44:36
  taking
• 44:36
  the
• 44:37
  verses
• 44:37
  literally.
• 44:38
  I
• 44:38
  can
• 44:38
  think
• 44:39
  of
• 44:39
  one
• 44:40
  in
• 44:40
  the
• 44:40
  Wolfman
• 44:41
  Perez
• 44:41
  run,
• 44:41
  which
• 44:42
  is
• 44:42
  way
• 44:42
  early
• 44:42
  on,
• 44:43
  where
• 44:44
  I
• 44:44
  think
• 44:44
  it's
• 44:44
  when
• 44:44
  Raven
• 44:45
  is
• 44:45
  revealing
• 44:46
  a
• 44:46
  little
• 44:46
  more
• 44:46
  about
• 44:46
  herself,
• 44:47
  but
• 44:47
  she
• 44:47
  goes
• 44:47
  to
• 44:47
  the
• 44:47
  Justice
• 44:48
  League.
• 44:49
  It's
• 44:49
  been
• 44:49
  like
• 44:49
  15
• 44:50
  years
• 44:50
  since
• 44:50
  I
• 44:50
  read
• 44:51
  this.
• 44:51
  That's
• 44:51
  been
• 44:51
  a
• 44:51
  long
• 44:52
  time.
• 44:52
  But
• 44:52
  yeah,
• 44:52
  yeah,
• 44:52
  yeah,
• 44:53
  they
• 44:53
  do
• 44:53
  that.
• 44:53
  There
• 44:54
  is
• 44:54
  also.
• 44:54
  Oh,
• 44:55
  God.
• 44:56
  And
• 44:56
  then
• 44:56
  it's
• 44:57
  like
• 44:57
  because
• 44:57
  of
• 44:57
  the
• 44:57
  influence
• 44:58
  of
• 44:58
  Trigon,
• 44:58
  the
• 44:59
  Justice
• 44:59
  League
• 44:59
  is
• 44:59
  taken
• 45:00
  out
• 45:00
  a
• 45:00
  little
• 45:00
  bit
• 45:00
  and
• 45:00
  then
• 45:01
  sort
• 45:01
  of
• 45:01
  Titans
• 45:01
  can
• 45:02
  save
• 45:02
  the
• 45:02
  day.
• 45:03
  Yeah,
• 45:03
  I
• 45:03
  think
• 45:03
  I
• 45:04
  remember
• 45:04
  that
• 45:04
  story
• 45:04
  correctly.
• 45:05
  Exactly.
• 45:06
  So
• 45:06
  they,
• 45:07
  I
• 45:07
  was,
• 45:07
  I
• 45:07
  was
• 45:07
  going
• 45:07
  to
• 45:07
  bring
• 45:07
  it
• 45:08
  up
• 45:08
  too,
• 45:08
  because
• 45:08
  you
• 45:08
  mentioned
• 45:08
  the
• 45:09
  like,
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  know,
• 45:10
  new
• 45:10
  52
• 45:11
  inspired
• 45:11
  animated
• 45:12
  universe
• 45:12
  earlier.
• 45:12
  So
• 45:13
  they
• 45:13
  did
• 45:13
  make
• 45:13
  a
• 45:13
  movie
• 45:14
  that
• 45:14
  I
• 45:14
  rewatched
• 45:15
  the
• 45:15
  other
• 45:15
  night
• 45:15
  that
• 45:15
  it's
• 45:16
  actually,
• 45:16
  it's
• 45:16
  pretty
• 45:17
  fun,
• 45:17
  but
• 45:17
  it
• 45:17
  does
• 45:17
  adapt
• 45:18
  that
• 45:18
  storyline
• 45:18
  loosely.
• 45:19
  And,
• 45:19
  and
• 45:19
  it's
• 45:19
  called
• 45:19
  Justice
• 45:20
  League
• 45:20
  versus
• 45:20
  Teen
• 45:21
  Titans.
• 45:22
  I
• 45:22
  mean,
• 45:22
  the
• 45:22
  title
• 45:23
  is
• 45:23
  a
• 45:23
  little
• 45:24
  loose
• 45:24
  because
• 45:24
  it's
• 45:24
  not
• 45:25
  like
• 45:25
  they're
• 45:25
  fighting
• 45:26
  the
• 45:26
  whole
• 45:26
  time,
• 45:26
  but
• 45:26
  they
• 45:27
  do
• 45:27
  adapt
• 45:27
  that
• 45:27
  storyline
• 45:28
  where
• 45:28
  exactly
• 45:29
  it's.
• 45:29
  That
• 45:29
  it's
• 45:29
  Trigon,
• 45:30
  you
• 45:30
  know,
• 45:31
  taking
• 45:31
  over
• 45:31
  the
• 45:31
  Justice
• 45:32
  League
• 45:32
  and
• 45:32
  pivoting
• 45:33
  them
• 45:33
  against
• 45:33
  the
• 45:33
  Titans.
• 45:34
  And
• 45:34
  so
• 45:35
  it
• 45:35
  would
• 45:35
  actually.
• 45:36
  I
• 45:36
  do.
• 45:36
  I
• 45:36
  know,
• 45:37
  yeah.
• 45:37
  We
• 45:37
  could
• 45:37
  get
• 45:38
  into
• 45:38
  all
• 45:38
  the,
• 45:39
  the
• 45:39
  like,
• 45:40
  ups
• 45:40
  and
• 45:40
  downs
• 45:41
  of
• 45:41
  that
• 45:41
  animated
• 45:42
  universe
• 45:42
  specifically.
• 45:43
  But
• 45:43
  I,
• 45:43
  I
• 45:43
  don't
• 45:43
  know.
• 45:43
  I
• 45:44
  rewatched
• 45:44
  that
• 45:44
  one
• 45:44
  the
• 45:44
  other
• 45:45
  night.
• 45:45
  It's
• 45:45
  not
• 45:45
  bad.
• 45:46
  I
• 45:46
  thought
• 45:46
  it
• 45:46
  was,
• 45:46
  it
• 45:47
  was
• 45:47
  a
• 45:47
  pretty
• 45:47
  fun
• 45:47
  time.
• 45:47
  And
• 45:48
  it
• 45:48
  was,
• 45:48
  it,
• 45:48
  it's
• 45:49
  like,
• 45:49
  it's
• 45:51
  Damien
• 45:52
  Wayne
• 45:52
  becoming
• 45:53
  first
• 45:53
  Becoming
• 45:53
  part
• 45:54
  of
• 45:54
  the
• 45:54
  Titans,
• 45:54
  which
• 45:54
  you
• 45:55
  can
• 45:55
  imagine
• 45:56
  he
• 45:57
  hates
• 45:57
  doing
• 45:57
  because
• 45:58
  he
• 45:58
  is
• 45:58
  the
• 45:59
  most
• 45:59
  anti
• 45:59
  team
• 46:00
  player
• 46:00
  there
• 46:00
  is.
• 46:01
  And
• 46:01
  then
• 46:01
  you
• 46:02
  have,
• 46:02
  like,
• 46:02
  Jaime
• 46:03
  Blue
• 46:03
  Beetle
• 46:04
  on
• 46:04
  there.
• 46:04
  Starfire
• 46:05
  is
• 46:05
  the
• 46:05
  team
• 46:06
  leader.
• 46:07
  Raven
• 46:08
  and
• 46:08
  Beast
• 46:08
  Boy
• 46:09
  are
• 46:09
  all
• 46:09
  there.
• 46:09
  And
• 46:10
  then,
• 46:10
  you
• 46:10
  know,
• 46:11
  like
• 46:11
  I
• 46:11
  said,
• 46:11
  Cyborg
• 46:12
  in
• 46:12
  this
• 46:12
  universe
• 46:12
  is
• 46:13
  on
• 46:13
  the
• 46:13
  Justice
• 46:13
  League.
• 46:14
  And
• 46:14
  then.
• 46:15
  Yeah,
• 46:16
  it's
• 46:16
  a
• 46:16
  pretty
• 46:17
  fun
• 46:17
  time.
• 46:17
  I
• 46:17
  also.
• 46:18
  I
• 46:18
  was
• 46:18
  watching
• 46:18
  the
• 46:18
  credits
• 46:19
  too,
• 46:19
  and
• 46:19
  John
• 46:19
  Bernthal
• 46:20
  voiced
• 46:21
  Trigon
• 46:21
  in
• 46:21
  that,
• 46:22
  so
• 46:22
  that
• 46:22
  was
• 46:22
  pretty
• 46:22
  cool.
• 46:23
  But
• 46:23
  it's.
• 46:23
  Yeah.
• 46:25
  Before
• 46:25
  he
• 46:26
  was
• 46:26
  in
• 46:26
  every
• 46:26
  Hollywood
• 46:27
  movie
• 46:27
  imaginable,
• 46:28
  I
• 46:28
  guess
• 46:28
  he
• 46:28
  had
• 46:28
  more
• 46:29
  time
• 46:29
  back
• 46:29
  then
• 46:29
  to
• 46:29
  do
• 46:30
  some
• 46:30
  DC
• 46:30
  animation,
• 46:31
  so
• 46:31
  that's
• 46:31
  pretty
• 46:32
  cool.
• 46:33
  But
• 46:34
  yeah,
• 46:35
  there's
• 46:35
  one.
• 46:35
  It's
• 46:36
  not
• 46:36
  really
• 46:36
  a
• 46:36
  Justice
• 46:37
  League
• 46:37
  versus
• 46:37
  Titans,
• 46:38
  but
• 46:38
  it's
• 46:38
  kind
• 46:38
  of
• 46:38
  sort
• 46:38
  of
• 46:38
  one.
• 46:39
  I
• 46:39
  remember
• 46:40
  reading
• 46:41
  the
• 46:41
  early
• 46:42
  comics
• 46:42
  and
• 46:43
  the.
• 46:43
  The
• 46:43
  Titans
• 46:44
  revival
• 46:44
  in
• 46:44
  the
• 46:45
  90s.
• 46:45
  I
• 46:45
  don't
• 46:46
  think
• 46:46
  97
• 46:46
  is
• 46:47
  when
• 46:47
  it
• 46:47
  came
• 46:47
  out.
• 46:48
  I
• 46:48
  think
• 46:48
  it's
• 46:48
  issue
• 46:48
  two.
• 46:49
  Yeah.
• 46:50
  We
• 46:50
  have
• 46:50
  pretty
• 46:50
  much
• 46:51
  like
• 46:51
  every
• 46:51
  Titan
• 46:52
  ever
• 46:52
  on
• 46:53
  the
• 46:53
  team
• 46:53
  at
• 46:53
  this
• 46:53
  point
• 46:54
  in
• 46:54
  time
• 46:54
  because
• 46:54
  they're
• 46:54
  kind
• 46:54
  of
• 46:55
  pulling
• 46:55
  what
• 46:55
  they
• 46:55
  did
• 46:56
  with
• 46:57
  Goodness
• 46:58
  Gracious
• 46:59
  Perez.
• 46:59
  And
• 47:00
  Was
• 47:00
  it
• 47:00
  Jeff
• 47:01
  Johns
• 47:02
  in
• 47:02
  avengers
• 47:03
  in
• 47:03
  the
• 47:03
  90s?
• 47:06
  It
• 47:06
  might
• 47:06
  be.
• 47:06
  I'd
• 47:07
  have
• 47:07
  to
• 47:07
  look
• 47:07
  it
• 47:07
  up,
• 47:07
  though.
• 47:07
  Yeah,
• 47:08
  I
• 47:08
  think
• 47:08
  I
• 47:08
  got.
• 47:08
  I
• 47:08
  definitely
• 47:09
  got
• 47:09
  one
• 47:09
  of
• 47:09
  those
• 47:09
  names
• 47:09
  wrong.
• 47:10
  Yeah.
• 47:11
  Where
• 47:11
  like,
• 47:12
  every
• 47:12
  Avenger
• 47:12
  ever
• 47:13
  for,
• 47:13
  like,
• 47:13
  the
• 47:13
  first
• 47:13
  three
• 47:13
  issues.
• 47:14
  And
• 47:14
  I
• 47:14
  think
• 47:14
  they
• 47:14
  kind
• 47:14
  of
• 47:14
  like,
• 47:15
  condensed
• 47:15
  it
• 47:15
  after
• 47:15
  that,
• 47:16
  but
• 47:16
  there's
• 47:16
  a
• 47:17
  great.
• 47:17
  I
• 47:17
  think
• 47:18
  they're
• 47:18
  fighting
• 47:18
  against
• 47:18
  HIVE
• 47:19
  once
• 47:19
  again.
• 47:19
  It's
• 47:19
  been
• 47:19
  a
• 47:20
  while
• 47:20
  since
• 47:20
  I've
• 47:20
  read
• 47:20
  this,
• 47:20
  so
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  apologize
• 47:21
  if
• 47:21
  I
• 47:21
  get
• 47:21
  anything
• 47:22
  wrong.
• 47:22
  And
• 47:22
  Superman
• 47:23
  shows
• 47:23
  up
• 47:23
  to
• 47:23
  help
• 47:24
  him
• 47:24
  out.
• 47:25
  And
• 47:25
  Nightwing,
• 47:26
  the
• 47:26
  whole
• 47:26
  time,
• 47:27
  sees,
• 47:27
  like,
• 47:27
  every
• 47:27
  one
• 47:27
  of
• 47:28
  them
• 47:28
  looking
• 47:28
  up
• 47:28
  the
• 47:28
  Superman.
• 47:29
  And
• 47:29
  he's
• 47:29
  supposed
• 47:29
  to
• 47:29
  be
• 47:29
  in
• 47:29
  charge
• 47:30
  of
• 47:30
  the
• 47:30
  team,
• 47:30
  so
• 47:30
  what
• 47:30
  does
• 47:30
  he
• 47:31
  do?
• 47:31
  He
• 47:32
  doesn't,
• 47:32
  like,
• 47:32
  confront
• 47:33
  Superman
• 47:33
  about
• 47:34
  it
• 47:34
  or
• 47:34
  anything.
• 47:34
  And
• 47:34
  instead
• 47:35
  he
• 47:35
  hides
• 47:36
  away,
• 47:37
  like
• 47:37
  still
• 47:37
  taking
• 47:38
  out
• 47:38
  some
• 47:38
  bad
• 47:38
  guys
• 47:38
  along
• 47:39
  the
• 47:39
  way,
• 47:39
  but
• 47:39
  where
• 47:39
  only
• 47:40
  Superman
• 47:40
  can
• 47:41
  hear
• 47:41
  him
• 47:41
  with
• 47:42
  super
• 47:42
  hearing.
• 47:42
  He's
• 47:43
  like,
• 47:43
  look,
• 47:43
  I
• 47:43
  appreciate
• 47:44
  you
• 47:44
  being
• 47:44
  here.
• 47:45
  You're
• 47:45
  a
• 47:45
  great
• 47:45
  guy.
• 47:46
  But
• 47:46
  I
• 47:46
  need
• 47:46
  these
• 47:46
  people
• 47:47
  to
• 47:47
  look
• 47:47
  up
• 47:47
  to
• 47:47
  me
• 47:47
  as
• 47:48
  their
• 47:48
  leader.
• 47:48
  So
• 47:49
  can
• 47:49
  you
• 47:49
  buzz
• 47:49
  off?
• 47:50
  Is
• 47:50
  essentially
• 47:51
  what
• 47:51
  he
• 47:51
  says,
• 47:52
  and
• 47:52
  in
• 47:52
  a.
• 47:52
  In
• 47:53
  a
• 47:53
  nicer
• 47:53
  way
• 47:53
  than
• 47:53
  I
• 47:54
  put
• 47:54
  it.
• 47:54
  And
• 47:54
  Superman
• 47:55
  hearing
• 47:56
  the
• 47:56
  wisdom
• 47:56
  in
• 47:56
  that,
• 47:57
  then
• 47:57
  as
• 47:57
  a
• 47:57
  good
• 47:58
  mentor,
• 47:58
  flies
• 47:59
  away.
• 47:59
  And
• 48:00
  what
• 48:00
  the
• 48:00
  other
• 48:00
  Titans
• 48:01
  see
• 48:01
  is
• 48:01
  Superman
• 48:01
  flying
• 48:02
  away.
• 48:02
  It's
• 48:02
  like,
• 48:02
  oh,
• 48:02
  well,
• 48:02
  he's
• 48:03
  not
• 48:03
  doing
• 48:03
  it
• 48:03
  because
• 48:03
  we're
• 48:03
  overwhelmed.
• 48:04
  He's
• 48:04
  doing
• 48:04
  it.
• 48:04
  Oh,
• 48:05
  he
• 48:05
  knows
• 48:05
  we
• 48:05
  have
• 48:05
  this
• 48:06
  covered.
• 48:06
  He
• 48:06
  trusts
• 48:07
  us
• 48:07
  that
• 48:07
  much.
• 48:08
  So
• 48:08
  it's
• 48:09
  a
• 48:09
  great
• 48:09
  moment
• 48:09
  of
• 48:10
  understanding
• 48:10
  between
• 48:11
  the
• 48:11
  two
• 48:11
  of
• 48:11
  them.
• 48:11
  So
• 48:12
  it's
• 48:12
  not
• 48:13
  really
• 48:13
  good
• 48:13
  for
• 48:13
  a
• 48:13
  Versus
• 48:14
  episode,
• 48:14
  but
• 48:14
  it's
• 48:14
  a
• 48:14
  good
• 48:14
  moment
• 48:15
  of
• 48:15
  showing
• 48:16
  love
• 48:17
  for
• 48:17
  each
• 48:17
  other
• 48:18
  in
• 48:18
  different
• 48:18
  ways
• 48:18
  for
• 48:18
  the
• 48:19
  team.
• 48:19
  And
• 48:19
  I
• 48:19
  don't
• 48:20
  know
• 48:20
  how
• 48:20
  that
• 48:20
  Titans
• 48:20
  run
• 48:20
  in.
• 48:21
  I
• 48:21
  only
• 48:21
  read
• 48:21
  a
• 48:21
  couple
• 48:22
  issues
• 48:22
  of
• 48:22
  it,
• 48:22
  but
• 48:22
  that
• 48:22
  was
• 48:23
  a
• 48:23
  pretty
• 48:23
  good
• 48:23
  one.
• 48:23
  Yeah,
• 48:23
  yeah,
• 48:24
  yeah,
• 48:24
  yeah.
• 48:25
  Well,
• 48:25
  and
• 48:25
  I
• 48:25
  think
• 48:25
  it's
• 48:26
  kind
• 48:26
  of
• 48:26
  like
• 48:28
  the.
• 48:28
  Having
• 48:29
  Trigon
• 48:29
  take
• 48:30
  over
• 48:30
  the
• 48:30
  league
• 48:30
  is
• 48:30
  really
• 48:31
  the
• 48:31
  only
• 48:31
  way
• 48:31
  you
• 48:31
  can
• 48:31
  do
• 48:32
  really,
• 48:32
  an
• 48:33
  actual,
• 48:33
  like,
• 48:33
  battle
• 48:34
  between
• 48:34
  the
• 48:34
  League
• 48:34
  of
• 48:35
  the
• 48:35
  Titans.
• 48:35
  Because
• 48:35
  I'm
• 48:36
  all.
• 48:36
  I
• 48:36
  mean,
• 48:36
  I'm.
• 48:37
  I.
• 48:37
  When
• 48:38
  it's
• 48:38
  superheroes
• 48:39
  fighting
• 48:39
  each
• 48:39
  other,
• 48:39
  I
• 48:40
  think
• 48:40
  if
• 48:40
  there's
• 48:40
  a
• 48:40
  reason
• 48:41
  to,
• 48:41
  like,
• 48:41
  civil
• 48:42
  war,
• 48:42
  let's
• 48:42
  say
• 48:42
  all
• 48:43
  that,
• 48:43
  then
• 48:43
  it's
• 48:43
  justified.
• 48:44
  But
• 48:44
  if
• 48:44
  you're
• 48:44
  doing
• 48:45
  it
• 48:45
  just
• 48:45
  because,
• 48:46
  hey,
• 48:46
  what
• 48:46
  it
• 48:46
  would
• 48:46
  be
• 48:47
  like,
• 48:47
  it
• 48:47
  would
• 48:47
  be
• 48:47
  dumb.
• 48:47
  I
• 48:47
  mean,
• 48:48
  there's
• 48:48
  not
• 48:48
  going
• 48:48
  to
• 48:48
  be
• 48:49
  any
• 48:49
  scenario,
• 48:50
  I
• 48:50
  think,
• 48:50
  where
• 48:51
  Superman,
• 48:51
  Batman,
• 48:52
  Wonder
• 48:52
  Woman
• 48:52
  are
• 48:53
  intentionally
• 48:53
  gonna
• 48:53
  beat
• 48:54
  up
• 48:54
  the
• 48:54
  Teen
• 48:54
  Titans
• 48:55
  or,
• 48:55
  you
• 48:55
  know,
• 48:55
  go
• 48:55
  like,
• 48:56
  edit
• 48:56
  with
• 48:57
  them.
• 48:57
  It
• 48:57
  would
• 48:57
  just
• 48:57
  be
• 48:57
  dumb.
• 48:57
  So
• 48:58
  I.
• 48:58
  I
• 48:58
  like,
• 48:59
  that
• 48:59
  was
• 48:59
  a
• 48:59
  more
• 49:00
  interesting
• 49:00
  angle
• 49:00
  to
• 49:00
  have
• 49:01
  Trigon
• 49:01
  take
• 49:02
  them
• 49:02
  over
• 49:02
  and
• 49:02
  then,
• 49:03
  you
• 49:03
  know,
• 49:03
  the
• 49:03
  Titans
• 49:03
  have
• 49:04
  to
• 49:04
  figure
• 49:04
  out
• 49:05
  how
• 49:05
  to
• 49:05
  work
• 49:06
  around
• 49:06
  that
• 49:06
  and
• 49:06
  defeat
• 49:07
  them
• 49:07
  and
• 49:07
  defeat
• 49:07
  Trigon.
• 49:08
  That
• 49:08
  makes
• 49:08
  it
• 49:08
  really
• 49:09
  fun.
• 49:10
  But.
• 49:10
  Yeah.
• 49:10
  So
• 49:11
  you
• 49:11
  can
• 49:11
  stop
• 49:11
  typing,
• 49:12
  everyone.
• 49:13
  It's
• 49:13
  Kurt
• 49:14
  Busick
• 49:14
  and
• 49:14
  George
• 49:15
  Perez.
• 49:15
  Ah,
• 49:16
  okay.
• 49:16
  Yeah,
• 49:16
  yeah,
• 49:16
  yeah,
• 49:17
  that
• 49:17
  makes
• 49:17
  sense.
• 49:18
  Was
• 49:18
  on
• 49:18
  the
• 49:18
  title
• 49:19
  a
• 49:20
  little
• 49:20
  bit
• 49:20
  later
• 49:20
  on,
• 49:21
  so,
• 49:22
  you
• 49:22
  know,
• 49:22
  keeping
• 49:23
  all
• 49:23
  these
• 49:23
  things
• 49:23
  consistent.
• 49:24
  Who
• 49:24
  knows,
• 49:24
  man?
• 49:25
  Well,
• 49:25
  I
• 49:26
  mean,
• 49:26
  I
• 49:26
  said
• 49:26
  90s.
• 49:27
  Like,
• 49:27
  yeah,
• 49:27
  there's
• 49:28
  not
• 49:28
  a
• 49:28
  lot
• 49:28
  of
• 49:28
  runs.
• 49:29
  I
• 49:29
  know
• 49:29
  at
• 49:29
  that
• 49:30
  time
• 49:30
  that
• 49:30
  it
• 49:30
  was
• 49:30
  more
• 49:31
  early
• 49:31
  2000s
• 49:32
  and
• 49:32
  stuff,
• 49:32
  but.
• 49:32
  Yeah,
• 49:33
  but,
• 49:33
  yeah,
• 49:34
  very
• 49:35
  cool.
• 49:36
  Awesome.
• 49:36
  Well.
• 49:36
  Oh,
• 49:37
  well,
• 49:37
  this
• 49:37
  is.
• 49:38
  Oh,
• 49:38
  this
• 49:38
  has
• 49:38
  been
• 49:38
  a
• 49:38
  blast.
• 49:39
  I
• 49:39
  know
• 49:40
  with
• 49:40
  these,
• 49:40
  it's
• 49:41
  kind
• 49:41
  of
• 49:41
  hard
• 49:41
  to
• 49:41
  come
• 49:41
  up
• 49:41
  to
• 49:41
  do
• 49:42
  a
• 49:42
  definitive.
• 49:42
  And
• 49:42
  we're
• 49:43
  not
• 49:43
  really
• 49:43
  trying
• 49:43
  to
• 49:44
  in
• 49:44
  terms
• 49:44
  of,
• 49:44
  like,
• 49:45
  which
• 49:45
  is
• 49:45
  better.
• 49:45
  We
• 49:45
  just
• 49:46
  kind
• 49:46
  of,
• 49:46
  like,
• 49:46
  want
• 49:46
  to
• 49:47
  really
• 49:47
  highlight
• 49:47
  the
• 49:47
  strengths
• 49:48
  of
• 49:48
  both.
• 49:48
  And
• 49:49
  again,
• 49:49
  we
• 49:49
  love
• 49:50
  both
• 49:50
  of
• 49:50
  these
• 49:50
  teams.
• 49:51
  We
• 49:51
  love
• 49:51
  the
• 49:51
  DC
• 49:51
  universe.
• 49:52
  And,
• 49:52
  you
• 49:53
  know,
• 49:53
  there
• 49:53
  are
• 49:53
  so
• 49:53
  many
• 49:54
  great
• 49:54
  runs
• 49:55
  from
• 49:55
  the
• 49:55
  comics
• 49:56
  and
• 49:56
  animated
• 49:57
  shows
• 49:57
  and
• 49:57
  movies.
• 49:58
  Well,
• 49:58
  I
• 49:58
  guess
• 49:59
  less
• 49:59
  movies
• 49:59
  in
• 50:00
  this
• 50:00
  regarding
• 50:01
  these
• 50:01
  properties
• 50:01
  that
• 50:01
  we
• 50:02
  can
• 50:02
  recommend
• 50:03
  because
• 50:04
  they're
• 50:04
  there.
• 50:05
  There's
• 50:05
  a
• 50:05
  Justice
• 50:05
  League
• 50:06
  movie,
• 50:06
  but
• 50:06
  I
• 50:06
  don't
• 50:06
  know.
• 50:07
  We
• 50:07
  don't
• 50:07
  really
• 50:07
  talk
• 50:07
  about
• 50:07
  that
• 50:08
  that
• 50:08
  much.
• 50:09
  But,
• 50:09
  you
• 50:10
  know.
• 50:11
  Yeah,
• 50:11
  that's
• 50:11
  a
• 50:12
  whole
• 50:12
  another.
• 50:12
  You
• 50:12
  can
• 50:12
  get
• 50:12
  into
• 50:13
  the
• 50:13
  theatrical
• 50:14
  one,
• 50:14
  specifically,
• 50:15
  the
• 50:15
  Snyder
• 50:15
  one
• 50:15
  is
• 50:15
  its
• 50:16
  own
• 50:16
  thing,
• 50:16
  but
• 50:16
  the
• 50:17
  theatrical
• 50:17
  movie,
• 50:18
  that
• 50:18
  is.
• 50:19
  Yeah,
• 50:19
  that's.
• 50:19
  That.
• 50:20
  That's
• 50:20
  the
• 50:20
  thing
• 50:20
  that
• 50:20
  exists.
• 50:22
  But.
• 50:22
  But
• 50:23
  anyway,
• 50:23
  you
• 50:23
  know,
• 50:24
  so
• 50:24
  many
• 50:24
  great
• 50:24
  stories
• 50:25
  with
• 50:25
  both
• 50:25
  these
• 50:26
  characters.
• 50:26
  We
• 50:26
  love
• 50:26
  them.
• 50:26
  We
• 50:27
  love
• 50:27
  these
• 50:27
  characters.
• 50:28
  And
• 50:28
  yeah.
• 50:29
  So
• 50:29
  this
• 50:29
  has
• 50:29
  been
• 50:29
  a
• 50:30
  blast
• 50:30
  talking
• 50:30
  about
• 50:31
  this
• 50:31
  with
• 50:31
  you,
• 50:31
  Christian.
• 50:32
  Absolutely,
• 50:33
  Kevin.
• 50:33
  I
• 50:33
  had
• 50:33
  a
• 50:33
  ton
• 50:34
  of
• 50:34
  fun
• 50:34
  with
• 50:34
  this
• 50:34
  one.
• 50:34
  Yes,
• 50:35
  absolutely.
• 50:36
  And
• 50:36
  before
• 50:36
  we
• 50:37
  get
• 50:37
  into,
• 50:37
  we
• 50:37
  are
• 50:38
  going
• 50:38
  to
• 50:38
  do
• 50:38
  a
• 50:38
  bonus
• 50:38
  question
• 50:40
  for
• 50:40
  our
• 50:40
  Patreon
• 50:40
  subscribers.
• 50:41
  So
• 50:42
  if
• 50:42
  you
• 50:42
  are
• 50:42
  a
• 50:42
  Patreon
• 50:43
  subscriber,
• 50:43
  you
• 50:43
  can
• 50:43
  stick
• 50:44
  around
• 50:44
  for
• 50:44
  that.
• 50:45
  But
• 50:45
  before
• 50:45
  we
• 50:45
  get,
• 50:46
  you
• 50:46
  know,
• 50:46
  close
• 50:46
  out
• 50:46
  and
• 50:46
  wrap
• 50:47
  up
• 50:47
  here,
• 50:48
  what
• 50:48
  do
• 50:49
  you
• 50:49
  have
• 50:49
  a
• 50:49
  recommendation
• 50:50
  either
• 50:51
  tied
• 50:51
  to
• 50:52
  either
• 50:52
  of
• 50:52
  these
• 50:52
  properties
• 50:53
  or
• 50:53
  it
• 50:53
  could
• 50:53
  be
• 50:53
  really
• 50:54
  something
• 50:54
  different
• 50:54
  that
• 50:54
  you
• 50:55
  want
• 50:55
  to
• 50:55
  share?
• 50:56
  Yeah.
• 50:57
  I
• 50:58
  have
• 50:58
  been
• 50:58
  out
• 50:58
  thrifting
• 51:00
  with
• 51:00
  my
• 51:01
  father
• 51:01
  and
• 51:01
  grandmother
• 51:02
  and
• 51:02
  I
• 51:02
  happened
• 51:02
  upon
• 51:04
  one
• 51:04
  of
• 51:04
  the
• 51:05
  books
• 51:05
  in
• 51:05
  the
• 51:05
  Artemis
• 51:05
  Fowl
• 51:06
  series
• 51:06
  I've
• 51:06
  never
• 51:06
  read,
• 51:06
  which
• 51:07
  was
• 51:07
  the
• 51:07
  Time
• 51:07
  Paradox.
• 51:07
  So
• 51:08
  I'm
• 51:08
  just
• 51:08
  going
• 51:08
  to
• 51:08
  recommend
• 51:08
  Artemis
• 51:09
  Fowl.
• 51:09
  I
• 51:10
  really
• 51:10
  enjoyed
• 51:10
  reading
• 51:11
  that
• 51:11
  way
• 51:11
  back
• 51:11
  in
• 51:11
  the
• 51:11
  day.
• 51:12
  So.
• 51:13
  Yeah.
• 51:13
  Oh,
• 51:14
  that's
• 51:14
  a
• 51:14
  good.
• 51:14
  I
• 51:15
  need
• 51:15
  to
• 51:15
  reread
• 51:15
  those.
• 51:16
  I
• 51:16
  also,
• 51:16
  I
• 51:17
  don't
• 51:17
  think
• 51:17
  I
• 51:17
  ever
• 51:17
  read
• 51:17
  like
• 51:18
  the
• 51:18
  later
• 51:18
  ones,
• 51:18
  but
• 51:19
  that
• 51:19
  was
• 51:19
  one
• 51:20
  of
• 51:20
  my
• 51:20
  favorites
• 51:20
  in
• 51:21
  like
• 51:21
  middle
• 51:21
  and
• 51:21
  high
• 51:22
  school.
• 51:22
  I
• 51:22
  love
• 51:23
  that
• 51:23
  series,
• 51:23
  but
• 51:23
  it's
• 51:23
  been
• 51:24
  a
• 51:24
  long
• 51:24
  time,
• 51:24
  so
• 51:24
  I
• 51:25
  Excellent
• 51:25
  recommendation.
• 51:26
  I
• 51:26
  think
• 51:26
  I'll,
• 51:27
  I'll
• 51:27
  get
• 51:28
  those
• 51:28
  soon.
• 51:28
  Yeah.
• 51:29
  Very
• 51:29
  cool.
• 51:30
  Yeah.
• 51:31
  And
• 51:31
  I
• 51:31
  would
• 51:31
  say
• 51:32
  I
• 51:32
  was
• 51:32
  going
• 51:33
  to
• 51:33
  recommend
• 51:33
  the
• 51:33
  The
• 51:33
  Justice
• 51:34
  League
• 51:34
  vs.
• 51:34
  Teen
• 51:34
  Titans
• 51:35
  movie
• 51:35
  just
• 51:35
  because
• 51:35
  like,
• 51:35
  you
• 51:35
  know,
• 51:36
  streaming
• 51:36
  rewatch
• 51:36
  that
• 51:36
  the
• 51:36
  night
• 51:37
  and
• 51:37
  then
• 51:37
  it
• 51:37
  fits
• 51:37
  in
• 51:37
  perfectly
• 51:38
  with
• 51:38
  this
• 51:38
  topic.
• 51:38
  But
• 51:38
  I
• 51:38
  also,
• 51:39
  I
• 51:39
  really
• 51:39
  want
• 51:39
  to
• 51:39
  recommend
• 51:40
  that
• 51:40
  Jeff
• 51:40
  Johns
• 51:41
  and
• 51:41
  Mike
• 51:41
  McConaughey
• 51:42
  run
• 51:43
  of
• 51:43
  Teen
• 51:43
  Titans
• 51:44
  from
• 51:44
  the
• 51:44
  early
• 51:44
  2000s
• 51:45
  again,
• 51:45
  that
• 51:45
  has
• 51:46
  a
• 51:46
  really
• 51:46
  great
• 51:47
  lineup
• 51:47
  with
• 51:48
  Superboy,
• 51:48
  Tim
• 51:49
  Drake,
• 51:49
  Robin,
• 51:51
  Cassie,
• 51:51
  Wonder
• 51:52
  Girl,
• 51:53
  Impulse,
• 51:54
  Bart
• 51:54
  Allen
• 51:55
  and
• 51:55
  Cyborg.
• 51:56
  So,
• 51:56
  and
• 51:56
  Cyborg's
• 51:57
  more
• 51:57
  in
• 51:57
  a
• 51:57
  leadership
• 51:58
  role
• 51:58
  at
• 51:58
  that
• 51:58
  point.
• 51:59
  Nightwing's
• 52:00
  also
• 52:00
  in
• 52:00
  there
• 52:01
  at
• 52:01
  different
• 52:01
  points
• 52:02
  and
• 52:02
  know
• 52:02
  that
• 52:03
  one.
• 52:03
  I
• 52:03
  love
• 52:03
  the
• 52:03
  art
• 52:04
  in
• 52:04
  it.
• 52:04
  I,
• 52:04
  it
• 52:05
  really
• 52:05
  had
• 52:05
  a
• 52:05
  big
• 52:05
  influence
• 52:06
  on
• 52:06
  the
• 52:06
  Young
• 52:06
  justice
• 52:07
  animated
• 52:07
  series.
• 52:08
  So
• 52:08
  definitely
• 52:09
  check
• 52:09
  out
• 52:09
  that
• 52:09
  one.
• 52:10
  If
• 52:10
  you
• 52:10
  haven't,
• 52:10
  you
• 52:10
  can
• 52:10
  get
• 52:11
  the
• 52:11
  trades
• 52:11
  or,
• 52:12
  you
• 52:12
  know,
• 52:12
  you
• 52:12
  can
• 52:12
  buy
• 52:12
  that
• 52:13
  on
• 52:13
  the
• 52:13
  DC
• 52:14
  Infinite
• 52:14
  app.
• 52:15
  So
• 52:16
  that's
• 52:16
  one
• 52:16
  I
• 52:17
  highly
• 52:17
  recommend.
• 52:19
  Awesome.
• 52:20
  Well,
• 52:20
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• 52:21
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• 52:21
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• 52:22
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• 52:34
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• 52:35
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• 52:36
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• 52:42
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• 52:42
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• 52:42
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• 52:43
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• 52:43
  I,
• 52:43
  if
• 52:44
  I'm
• 52:44
  switching
• 52:45
  off
• 52:45
  to
• 52:45
  this
• 52:45
  sign
• 52:46
  off
• 52:46
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• 52:46
  because
• 52:46
  I
• 52:46
  think
• 52:46
  it's
• 52:47
  cool
• 52:47
  we
• 52:47
  started
• 52:47
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• 52:47
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• 52:48
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• 52:48
  Dr.
• 52:48
  Tastic
• 52:49
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• 52:49
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• 52:50
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• 52:50
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• 52:50
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• 52:51
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• 52:52
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• 52:53
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• 52:53
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• 52:56
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