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#8 - Not Top 5 · All Balls, No Filter Podcast

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  Welcome to the All Balls No Filler podcast.
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  Live from the cabin Kitchen. I'm Zach.
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  He's Brad. Hello there and.
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  Behind the scenes, we have a man that once saved a stranded cat
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  that was stuck up a tree. He's researcher Cal.
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  Researcher Cal He's a man of the people, isn't he?
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  And a man of the kittens. He is indeed.
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  How are you doing today mate? All right mate, I'm all right.
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  It's it's been nice having a couple of days away from the old
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  full time job. So feeling refreshed, feeling
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  ready and raring to go. Yeah.
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  How about yourself? You good?
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  Yeah, long weekend mate. I'm not going to lie to you.
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  I had a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a long run on the old
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  shandies. I think it was.
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  That's what I'm putting it down to anyway.
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  But other than that, it was fun. Weird weekend.
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  There were no football, I must admit that, but as something
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  else kind of filled my film, a fix.
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  But we'll go into that a bit later on, mate.
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  We'll go into that a bit later on.
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  So what we got in store for today?
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  So it's our first ever episode without any NFL, although it's
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  still happening that, you know, the the train never stops, does
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  it? But yeah, so we're going to
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  we're going to visit the whole season.
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  We're going to review the season.
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  We're going to have a look at what went well for teams, what
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  didn't go so well for teams. Visit right the way back to the
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  draft of last year and see how those those guys got on.
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  And then of course, as always, we will have our all of the
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  balls. And a new segment today from
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  researcher Cali's is lined up. A nice one, and quite a
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  appropriately timed 1, but I'm looking forward to it just to
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  sort of visit back and look at what was quite a weird but
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  interesting season really for the NFL.
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  Yeah, it, it felt like one of them for me, where the season
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  just started and finished. I know it sounds really daft,
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  but I can't really remember it. It being like it over really
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  quickly is what I'm trying to say.
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  It just seemed to like all the opening weekends here and now
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  it's playoffs, the, the the whole season in the middle just
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  kind of disappeared to me. But it was an enjoyable season.
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  I'm looking back to, I'm looking forward to kind of going back
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  through it from the, the draft picks and, and, and the teams
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  and have a bit of a review and given our really professional
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  and accurate research and, and like, you know, views on, on
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  the, on the team big clubs. Very well educated analysis
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  you're going to get in this episode.
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  I think that's absolutely nothing from researcher Cal
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  because he he knows nothing, as we've discovered over the last
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  few years, last few weeks. Sorry, research Carl may be an
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  optimistic name there. I'm kidding.
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  He does a lot of great work in the background.
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  But of course, we are not analysts.
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  We do not pretend to be analysts.
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  But we'll, I'm sure we'll try and get stuck in the best we can
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  as we as we head back through the 2025 season, which is also
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  something that I've found really difficult to to get my head
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  around even still today. The fact that they call it 2025
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  season even though it finishes in 26 and like, I don't know,
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  it's a weird one. Yeah, it's when when trying to
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  find out and trying to do research and you type in the
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  2025, you always find yourself second guessing is this the
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  right season? Like, you know, I think, I think
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  what we're doing there when we did our Super Bowl night, I did
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  the Super Bowl quiz and I'm researching things.
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  I'm like 2025 MVP. But it's 2026 when he's awarded
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  like have I got the right 1? Double checking four or five
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  different outlets to find out which one if I'm making sure
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  it's right. But, you know, we got there in
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  the end and it's it's, you know, hopefully as accurate as it can
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  be. So how could all I mean to?
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  We're sorry. Go on mate.
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  Go on. We'll go on.
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  Last wait and see the latest is killing us again, right.
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  We're going to look into the draft picks to start off with
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  right. So we're going to have a look
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  through the the the notable draft picks from this year, see
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  where see where they were where they ended up.
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  Did they live up to expectation is the main one.
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  If you're if you listen to this, we have got it all on screen
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  now. We've got a few notable notable
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  names up on screen now, but with me and Brad are just going to go
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  through and give our kind of views on on these.
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  I think we have to start at the top and at pick one O 1 which
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  will become Ward. Now again, personal view on
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  things like this with with these players.
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  Did you live up to expectation? I'm going to say yes, but I
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  think the team let him down. Yeah, I mean, I I fully agree.
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  Like it's, it's always, it's like a blessing and a curse,
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  isn't it? As being that sort of first
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  drafted quarterback because you know you're going to a crap
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  team. Really, unless something weird
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  has happened, that season's just had a really off year.
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  You go into a team that's not great really.
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  The Titans is probably an an acceptable team to go to because
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  you've got you've got those bad teams that are just bad for
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  various reasons, whether it's like a poor GM or a poor head
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  coach or, you know, they're going to rebuild, for example.
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  But then there's some teams like where it's, it's just a bad
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  organisation to go to. Like you always see the Browns
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  up there, don't you? You know, they've had the odd
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  year where they're not, but you're just thinking not the
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  Browns, not the Browns, not the Browns.
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  So like, if I was a quarterback and I knew I was pretty much
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  guaranteed to be a first overall, I don't think the
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  Titans is a bad place to land. I think I agree with you really.
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  It was just for coaching, I think, because you saw, didn't
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  you, the second-half of the season, he really started to
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  show and he had moments like he had a pass in each game where
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  it's like, yeah, you can see. You can see that the skills
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  there and obviously the skills there, you can see it.
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  But obviously as he developed through the season and the
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  coaching change mid midway through like this started to
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  pick up a little bit and Cam Ward started to pick up.
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  So I think it'll be an interesting one next year.
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  You know, you've got Dabo who will be sort of running the
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  offence there, which I don't know, is he, is he overrated?
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  Is he not as a coach? I don't know.
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  He had success at the Bills, He had very little success at the
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  Giants. So was the Bills success down to
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  Josh Allen? Who knows, We'll see, but you'd
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  like to think they've got some quality coaching around the team
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  to maybe allow him to go on to see, you know, year two, season
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  2 and and show that progression hopefully and make that leap.
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  Yeah, I liked him. I think he showed a lot of
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  promise. I'm not going to lie.
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  I think he he would excite. He had a lot of like off the
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  cuff kind of plays within within the offence, and that's a bad
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  sign for the offence because they get like, you know, they're
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  allowing people to get through to him.
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  He's got to make these off the cuff plays, but at the same time
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  it's big. He shows a bit like that Caleb
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  Williams kind of esque of the mobility and the accuracy at the
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  same time while going through now, looking at his starts for
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  the year, he's done 3169 yards throughout the year.
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  That's only 1000 yards more than Jackson Dart, who was was not a
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  not a top ten pick. I don't, I don't believe and but
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  was, you know, he was quite a high profile name on that.
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  So it was it's nice. It's it's good to see and you
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  can see that kind of that, that potential there.
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  Now the issues with him is the turnovers that they were there
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  they had and I think he's still learning the NFL game.
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  And this goes back to what you said about, you know, if you
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  pick one O 1 in your QB, you're starting.
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  I think you could say that within any of the QBs in the top
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  32 picks. If you're picked as a QB in that
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  top 32 picks, you should be long gone are the days of like Aaron
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  Rodgers sitting in the Brett Favre for however many years to
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  learn the the game. You know, you are right.
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  We're drafting you now straight out of college.
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  You've got to learn a lot of them have never called plays
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  before. Like you've got to learn to play
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  call or not not call play, sorry, like call plays in the
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  huddle, shall I say. A lot of them have never like
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  read the plays out, especially when it's coming through the in
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  years and be able to read the defence at the same time, which
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  they need to. It's it's hard to see.
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  Look at Sam down on Baker May for the two prime examples of
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  coming out of college not really doing what they what they can do
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  because I think the pressure just got too and it was a bit
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  too much to begin with. And a couple of years in the
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  NFL, you're a Super Bowl champion.
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  So yeah, I, I, I agree. I think I think the potential's
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  there for him. But, well, only time will tell
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  with this, with this year 2 for sure.
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  Another big name within the draft was the dual threat man
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  himself. Where's he going to play wide
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  receiver? Where's he going to play DB?
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  What's he going to do? Mr Travis Hunter was arguably
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  one of the most exciting draft picks in my opinion, coming out
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  of the draft because of all that.
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  It was up there with the we don't know what to expect
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  because he's played so well in college on both sides of the
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  ball. We don't know what to expect.
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  I I've I've heard and read that next year they're kind of
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  focusing more as a wide receiver.
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  Is that correct? More more full time cornerback.
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  Sorry, thank you. Research Carl, then wide
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  receiver next year, which I'd I can see because he had some, he
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  had some good shutdown, shutdown things, shutdown plays going on.
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  But what were your view on Mr. Hunter this year?
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  I think he's a bit of a let down to be honest, if I'm just blunt,
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  but I don't think that's necessarily a reflection on him
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  as a player or him as a as an athlete.
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  I think it's just, I think it kind of comes with the territory
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  that if you're playing a bit of both you, you're splitting your
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  investment in that position. So like college is a very
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  different game to the NFL. You know that the offences that
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  they use a very different, the the defensive coverages that
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  they use a very different. I think what, what I read last
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  year was that they would essentially when he was at
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  college, they would essentially he was pretty much training wise
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  more of a full time cornerback, but then they would design
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  specific plays as a wide receiver, which is where he he,
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  he knew that limited number of plays that he was involved in
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  basically, and they would execute in that way.
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  And I think my gut probably says if you're going to capitalise on
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  him in the NFLI, don't think that's a bad way to go.
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  So I think focusing in more on cornerback is probably the right
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  way to do it. And then you've got some design
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  set plays and I think obviously some of those need to be some of
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  those need to be like almost decoy plays as well.
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  You know, Oh, right, Travis is in.
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  Let's double team him because it's a set play.
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  Oh no, it's not going to him. You know, that sort of stuff.
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  If you if you've got the smarts about you, which obviously the
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  NFL coaches do. But I think the promise is
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  there. The potential's there.
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  He's an athlete. Obviously, you know, he's you
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  don't go second overall for no reason and you don't have the
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  success that he had at college for no reason.
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  Obviously he had the injury which ruled him out for much of
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  the season, but I think even in the early games when he was on,
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  you could see there's something there again.
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  But I, I just don't think it was quite a play like that's going
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  to take a couple of years I think to really be that big
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  explosive player, I think. I agree and and going back to
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  the him doing both sides of the ball at college and and and the
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  plays that they designed for him.
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  I had the same thing as well, but and a lot of the team
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  meetings happened at the same time.
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  So if the offence in that offensive team meeting in the
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  NFL on the defence operating their team at the same time, it
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  can't be in both. So it's hard for you to learn
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  both sides of the ball. And you know, there's no, no
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  secret, no doubt about it that this guy is a stood and I
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  genuinely think that whichever direction he takes full time,
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  whether that is wide receiver or cornerback, he will be an All
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  Star player in that position. I genuinely think he's a he's a
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  phenomenal athlete. But I agree what you said last
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  year because he was splitting himself both ways.
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  He had some breakout plays, some good shutdowns and some decent
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  catches, some decent yards. But I don't think he'll ever be
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  the best player. But if he's playing both ways, I
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  think he does need to. It's nice in college to do in
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  college. You know, the level in college
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  you can be a * and being levels above the people you're playing
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  against. So you can kind of get away.
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  We're just jumping on for a couple of plays.
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  If you've got 10 plays that I designed for you as a wide
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  receiver, the NFL coach are going to pick up on this.
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  Then they go into turn around and go, well, it's one of 10
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  plays here. So we can, we can just manoeuvre
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  things about. So I think if they're smart with
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  how they do it next year. Yeah, the the injury did hurt
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  him, which is which is obviously obviously because an injury, but
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  the injury did hamper his his playing ability on the on the
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  field, putting him on the bench. It would be nice to see him
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  finish out the year and see where he actually finished off.
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  Only one touchdown probably kind of pushed you a bit more towards
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  that cornerback role. But yeah, it's it's, it's been
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  one of them, one of them for me with him.
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  I think he had to decide at the end of this year and the the
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  pushing towards the right direction in my, in my personal
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  opinion. Anyone stand out to you mate?
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  Over the top 2. So we've gone through the top 2
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  any any big ones for yourself that that I've kind of come out.
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  We've got a big list inside, obviously, but.
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  We have, yeah. And I think the ones for me, the
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  there's the big, the big name. If we're thinking right back to
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  the draft, I'm not necessarily thinking performance on field
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  here, but the big name before this draft was should have
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  Sanders, wasn't it? And I think he's, I'm sure we'll
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  get to, you know, some of the other guys and stuff, But that
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  whole scenario of where will he go?
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  When will he go? Who will he go to?
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  It was, it's probably one of the most odd draft scenarios that
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  I've sort of experienced in a long time.
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  And, and I don't know if that's because of his name.
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  I don't know if it's because of how he portrays himself.
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  I don't know if it was because he was being coached by his dad
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  where he, you know, Colorado and but that was just like the whole
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  big drama, wasn't it? And then there's the whole issue
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  of like, he was kind of blacklisted and it was
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  intentional to not draft him. And then obviously he fell so
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  far that a team basically had to do it.
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  And ironically, I mentioned the Browns.
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  That's where he ended up. But I don't know, like I just
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  think I mean at the time, what were your thoughts on like that
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  whole scenario? Obviously we know how the season
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  panned out and we know what happened there.
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  And you know, he he had a mixed rookie season when he actually
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  came in. I don't think he was atrocious.
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  I don't think he was brilliant. He was fine, I guess.
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  But the whole draft scenario around Shadur, like what was
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  your thoughts like leading up to the draft and like immediately
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  after the draft? Oh, for me, I don't have many
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  positive things to say about the guy.
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  Personally. I think he's arrogant.
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  I think he's arrogant is what let him down and got him got him
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  knocked down. So many, so many picks and so
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  many rounds. I think there were a rumour
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  going round or a news that I can go around that the Ravens
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  contacted him and say we're going to draft you next, Eddie
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  said. I said, Nah, I don't want to be
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  behind Lamar Jackson. Understandable, because he wants
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  to obviously get on the field and stuff.
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  But at the same time they're lucky for NFL team rings.
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  Me, I don't give a shit who is I'm going to be grateful.
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  I'm going to go out there and try and fight for, you know,
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  looking at the season that Lamar had, if it had put a decent
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  shift in at at quarterback, there could have been talk of
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  him of him potentially getting a couple of reps on that field if
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  he was hurt, as what the backroom staff are saying about
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  Lamar. So, you know, but you know, if
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  if but some maybes the the shadow thing for me more than
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  anything else is I think the moment the Browns took him, the
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  Browns were going to play him. The Browns had done the
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  organisation, had this name, had this media personality,
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  regardless to what he'd done on that field.
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  The moment he goes back on that field, he weren't getting
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  dropped because of that media personality.
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  Had it brought limelight to it brought a personality again to
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  it with a Johnny, the Johnny Football, the Johnny Manziel
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  vibe to to the Browns again, because he because of all this,
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  this big name coming in. And yeah, obviously Baker
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  Mayfield well as well, but I think there's just been been a
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  bit more because of shadows family and his and his I mean,
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  he were he were a good QB at Colorado, but you know, you take
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  his family away from him and that media away from him and he
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  he's a fifth. He's a fifth round pick in my
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  opinion. Like he's not the best QB in the
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  draft by a by a by a mile. I just think it was shown and
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  and his the media brought him to it.
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  And evidently that's why he got into pro ball, because of his
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  media side of things. It's an interesting one with the
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  Browns though, isn't it? It's like it's it's one of those
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  weird situations where you couldn't necessarily win that
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  situation. You couldn't necessarily lose.
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  And I probably don't say this about the Browns very well ever,
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  but I think the fact that they took him and where they took
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  him, like putting that aside, I think they kind of played it the
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  best way they could in a way. They didn't start Amy.
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  I think he was third string, wasn't it to begin with.
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  And then if I remember him rightly here, he ended up in the
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  first, he ended up starting because obviously they played
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  Dylan Gabriel. And then I'm sure obviously
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  who's who's drafted 2, excuse me, two rounds prior as as
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  research. Carl's just chiming in with SO2
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  rookies. They sitting behind Dylan
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  Gabriel and behind was it Flacco was starting at the time and
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  obviously Flacco, they moved on and that was the right thing to
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  do. I think they started the season
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  with the right guy and they moved him on and they had to
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  look at these two, two quarterbacks.
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  I think that was the right move then for them.
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  Obviously Gabriel picked up an injury and then Shadow was like
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  he was forced to start and as I say, he didn't set the world on
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  fire. He didn't have horrendous play
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  all of the time. He wasn't great, but it wasn't
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  like he was the worst quarterback to ever step on the
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  field. But it they they kind of played
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  it right where they've been able to see a bit of the two.
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  The only thing is now I think with Dylan Gabriel fit, they're
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  going to have that same media circus next season in the
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  offseason because it's going to be right.
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  Who's starting, what's happening?
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  It's. It's should have Stein, Dylan
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  Gabriel's never stepping foot on that field for the Brown, for
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  Browns again. And they've killed his career,
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  right? So he even needs to move on now
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  to a team that needs a QB that might be looking to off load and
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  get a cheap QB for the likes of Arizona getting getting Kyla and
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  just trying to maybe take in that cap that cap go or even
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  someone who's that's it sounds like Miami to get shot of tour
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  and they've got that cap it and they need a cheap QB.
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  They've got a second. They've got a third round draft
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  pick there going because I I can guarantee now the game at dirt
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  cheap to get him away. So they can put the focus in on
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  should they don't want that media circus again.
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  They don't want that who's starting.
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  They want to be able to focus A-Team around the.
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  Right and QB and to MetLife a bit easier than having to have
• 20:09
  this Hoo ha. We've got two young QBs.
• 20:12
  If you if you're Joe Flacco and shadow, then you got you can
• 20:15
  kind of back it where they're going to go with younger guy put
• 20:18
  some effort in. But they've got 2, two draft
• 20:21
  picks here, two young, young QBs here that are going to arguably
• 20:26
  fight for it, and they're just going to cause commotion when
• 20:28
  everyone knows the Browns are going to make the wrong
• 20:31
  decision, Choose to choose to choose Sanders because he's the
• 20:36
  media guy. Yeah, it's it's, it's just a
• 20:42
  Browns situation to be in, isn't it?
• 20:44
  Like it's definitely going to happen.
• 20:46
  I don't think they'll move on from from Dylan Gabriel.
• 20:50
  I don't. I think it's just going to be a
• 20:53
  a typical Browns media circus shambles of a pre season for
• 20:58
  them and then they'll just do something really strange like, I
• 21:02
  don't know, taking a free agent quarterback a week before the
• 21:05
  season start them instead. That's why wouldn't you Browns
• 21:09
  Exactly, but. Exactly.
• 21:11
  Looking at some other big names within there.
• 21:13
  Just want to ask you a question here regarding a couple of the
• 21:15
  players. We're not really touched on
• 21:16
  them, but we can do within this. If you're going to choose a
• 21:18
  rookie from the last year's draft to build your kind of team
• 21:21
  around, having seen what you've seen this year and you have
• 21:23
  Macmillan Gente and you have Cam Ward, who are you choosing and
• 21:27
  why? Oh, that's a tough one.
• 21:31
  You, you can't with a curveball. They're throwing Cam Ward in
• 21:35
  because your quarterbacks are so vital.
• 21:39
  I know, I know. Like, I think if it was McMillan
• 21:44
  or Jaunty, it will be McMillan. I think getting a big name wide
• 21:51
  receiver 1 is probably better and more important than having a
• 21:57
  big name running back #1 although they both make a vital
• 22:00
  difference. But we know through longevity of
• 22:02
  careers, typically receivers out last year, running backs.
• 22:05
  And equally it's that QB wide receiver relationship that's so
• 22:09
  important. Because if you don't have that
• 22:12
  and you know you're hammering the ball from the running back,
• 22:14
  they're just going to stuff the run.
• 22:15
  And then if you don't have that connection with the receiver,
• 22:17
  then what you're going to do? So I think I'd have gone on them
• 22:20
  to it's the Cam Ward thing that throws me.
• 22:22
  And I think quarterbacks are so volatile to see.
• 22:27
  I think if a wide receiver explodes in in the first year,
• 22:29
  which McMillan did, I thought it was outstanding.
• 22:34
  I think it, you know, I think he'll be a bit a solid receiver
• 22:37
  for his his whole career, but the quarterbacks are difficult
• 22:41
  to judge. I think it's probably one of the
• 22:44
  hardest positions to really sort of analyse and know what they're
• 22:52
  going to be when they come out college into the NFL and how
• 22:54
  that converts. And it's probably one of the
• 22:56
  hardest ones really. My gut says Cam Ward, I think
• 23:03
  just because he's a quarterback and he's definitely shown he can
• 23:05
  do it to a point. But I think it's so important
• 23:10
  that you get the right coaches around a quarterback, I think.
• 23:15
  Yeah, same question to you then. Yeah, it's tough.
• 23:19
  It's three different positions. Yeah, three different positions
• 23:23
  there, right? And I think I would go down the
• 23:25
  McMillan route personally. Now, not take anything away from
• 23:29
  Joe Flacco because he's a great quarterback, but he's not a
• 23:32
  young quarterback anymore. But look at what he did when he
• 23:34
  went to Cincinnati and he started moving the ball when Joe
• 23:37
  Burrow couldn't would be in the same offensive line.
• 23:40
  OK, now I understand he still got a hit and everything, but
• 23:42
  that's because he had two All Star receivers that he could
• 23:45
  guarantee throw that ball to under double triple coverage.
• 23:47
  Bring it down. Make the odds going forward.
• 23:49
  You can you can find someone like a Baker Mayfield or Sam
• 23:54
  down. I'm going to keep bringing these
• 23:55
  two because they are two prime examples of a round one QB year.
• 24:00
  One sometimes isn't the one. Now, obviously we we aren't
• 24:04
  going into the the specifics of Cam Ward.
• 24:07
  Is he right for your team type thing?
• 24:09
  And I get I'm not taking anything away from Cam Ward.
• 24:11
  I think is a phenomenal talent coming coming out of college.
• 24:14
  But I think there's a lot more work in there when you can pick
• 24:16
  up players that just didn't fit an organisation that can work
• 24:20
  with your guy. Like I think you take Marvin
• 24:24
  Harrison Junior, for instance, out of Arizona, you put him into
• 24:26
  a team with with a decent QB that time and and and he's going
• 24:30
  to be an All Star again. I think it's that fit.
• 24:32
  So for me, I like, I'd like to say find that wide receiver one
• 24:35
  and the longevity of it. For me it would be Macmillan.
• 24:39
  So who do you think, you know, thinking about back to the draft
• 24:43
  and look, I guess we'll look at the teams generally as as we
• 24:47
  move through this app. But do you think there's a team?
• 24:51
  Two questions actually, which team got a steal of the draft?
• 24:54
  So which team do you think you've got the best value if you
• 24:57
  like, you know who, who picks the best value at what point?
• 25:00
  I'm not saying it has to be a late round pick or anything like
• 25:02
  that, but who got the best bang for the buck?
• 25:05
  And then which team do you think had like the best draft overall,
• 25:12
  Like who? Who impressed you?
• 25:14
  Oh, so for me, I've got one guy that is my like steal of the
• 25:19
  draft. And I just think in this
• 25:22
  positions hard to come by someone that makes impact
• 25:25
  everywhere he goes. And that's Tyler Warren.
• 25:29
  I think Tyler Warren was a stud all year solid.
• 25:34
  He blocked well. He he he caught the ball well.
• 25:37
  He was just nearly 1000 yards receiving on a tight end in your
• 25:41
  rookie year. He's just great.
• 25:43
  And for me, I think he is that steal at the at the open.
• 25:47
  I mean, you could you could go like a camp scatter bow, for
• 25:49
  instance. But like Amy, I got injured.
• 25:51
  But for me, he's just like that boom.
• 25:57
  He made he made an impact all season.
• 26:01
  Who had the best draft? Oh God, now that's a tough one.
• 26:09
  That is a tough one. Who improved the most from the
• 26:13
  draft? God, you've caught me on there.
• 26:21
  It's a bit. Of a it's a bit of a loaded
• 26:23
  question. It's not loaded, but the only
• 26:26
  reason that I sort of linked those two questions for me is
• 26:30
  Kyle Manangai. Is that how I pronounce it?
• 26:32
  Kyle Manangai. So the bears picked him up and I
• 26:35
  think it was like round six or seven.
• 26:37
  I'm sure it's seven real late pick and he was just in fact, if
• 26:43
  my, my in depth analysis and research tells me he actually
• 26:48
  apparently led the rookie running backs in, in production
• 26:52
  from the line of scrimmage in terms of yards and impact,
• 26:56
  etcetera. I think he had five touchdowns.
• 27:00
  He had 700 plus yards, which you know we've got.
• 27:05
  We've got bigger stats than that.
• 27:08
  It's the impact that. Value.
• 27:10
  Yeah, that value in the 7th pick.
• 27:12
  And I think the reason I sort of had those two questions sort of
• 27:15
  come to my mind was that I think the Bears had a really, really
• 27:19
  solid draft. And we talk about organisations
• 27:23
  that like perpetually sort of show dysfunction, maybe not
• 27:27
  dysfunction, but they they haven't, they've not been a big
• 27:29
  name have they're in donkeys of years.
• 27:34
  But I think, you know, they they picked up Loveland, they picked
• 27:37
  up Luther Burden, they picked up Menangi.
• 27:42
  Like they were just, they just had a, for me, a solid draft and
• 27:46
  then that sort of reflected with picking up the right coach and a
• 27:52
  second year quarterback. And then they had the success
• 27:55
  they did this year, probably ahead of schedule as I spoke
• 27:58
  right in previous episodes, but I thought they were absolutely
• 28:01
  solid generally. So for me, my team would be and
• 28:06
  it's a curveball on this one a bit a bit Giants.
• 28:08
  I think for me who had the best draft in terms of the players
• 28:12
  that came through taking Jackson down and come Scott bow in in
• 28:16
  particular to move forward. You got two players.
• 28:19
  They if providing the providing they can keep fit and I think
• 28:24
  they've got the right coach now to go into next year and they
• 28:26
  can keep fit, keep helping. Stop making stupid decisions.
• 28:31
  There could be two decent players there to kind of base
• 28:34
  your your your team around. So with that being said, before
• 28:39
  we move on to like the teams and his his view on the teams final
• 28:42
  one for the the the draft itself.
• 28:45
  Which rookie then in your opinion will have the best year
• 28:48
  2? That is that's a tough one.
• 28:56
  I think in terms of sort of progress from year one to two,
• 29:01
  like maybe I don't know, it's so hard to say what the best year 2
• 29:05
  would be as a player, but I think in terms of progress made
• 29:08
  the leap that they make, I'm really quite excited if you
• 29:13
  know, thinking big names. I'm I'm quite looking forward to
• 29:16
  seeing Jhansi at at Raiders. I think the Clint Kubiakaya is
• 29:23
  exciting. I think, you know, you saw the
• 29:28
  the impacts the Walker made at Seahawks and I think if you've
• 29:34
  got the right coaching set up around him and you've got the
• 29:38
  right, you know, the draft well again this year.
• 29:42
  And I think they're also going to have to rely on him a little
• 29:44
  bit more. Well, maybe not more, but odds
• 29:49
  on how they're going to take they're going to take Mendoza
• 29:51
  first overall. So what's the best way to set up
• 29:54
  a rookie quarterback for success is to have a running back that
• 29:58
  you can rely on and a run game that you can rely on.
• 30:01
  And I think having him there, you know, he had a right a
• 30:03
  massive impact from the get go anyway, didn't he?
• 30:05
  Like he's 3 down back. He you know, he he the run
• 30:10
  game's been inconsistent for years and he took that upper
• 30:13
  level. Was he the best running back in
• 30:16
  the NFL? No, he wasn't.
• 30:18
  Does he have the potential to be?
• 30:19
  I think he does. We won't even get into a stance.
• 30:24
  I'm not even going to entertain that conversation.
• 30:27
  We all saw the the comments and the memes about, oh, he's in
• 30:30
  this stance now and look what he's done.
• 30:31
  It's a load of crap, but I think he's got the potential to make a
• 30:36
  huge, huge leap in Year 2. Yeah, yeah, I've been, I've been
• 30:41
  inclined to agree with you there.
• 30:43
  It's a strong position to have. If you've got a good running
• 30:45
  back, one that you can you can rely on going forward.
• 30:48
  For me, it's Cam Ward. I think Cam Ward is just going
• 30:50
  to he's, he's going to excel in year 2.
• 30:52
  I think he's going to be is exciting enough to excel.
• 30:54
  I think he has that, that potential to have that, that,
• 30:59
  that follow up footsteps of the Caleb Williams year one to year
• 31:03
  2 and and have that exciting year.
• 31:05
  And I think if it does, it will make the just the, the, the
• 31:08
  league and the the season a lot more exciting to have with a lot
• 31:11
  more of these QBs in. So moving on to the teams now,
• 31:14
  mate of what we saw this year and talking purely from a farm
• 31:19
  point of view, we're taking the taking the stats kind of kind of
• 31:22
  out of it for the time being. Teams from, you know, start of
• 31:27
  the year. Who did you prove?
• 31:28
  Who do you think we're going to get to the Super Bowl?
• 31:30
  Who Who didn't live up to the expectations and who surprised
• 31:34
  you more than anything else? I think the big surprise for me
• 31:38
  and and I'll go out and say it from the get go because I've
• 31:41
  given them some hammer over the years, over the weeks we've been
• 31:43
  doing this. Sorry, I've said years instead
• 31:45
  of weeks about three times on this episode.
• 31:49
  The surprise to me was the Patriots, like they, you know,
• 31:52
  one of one of a few. I'd say the Patriots, the Hawks
• 31:56
  and the bears were probably the three for me that jumped out a
• 32:01
  lot more than I expected them to.
• 32:05
  I think there was always a bit of promise for the Bears.
• 32:08
  I think there was like a lot of expectation around the Ben
• 32:13
  Johnson thing, jumping up and sort of elevating the team if
• 32:19
  you like. But for me, the Patriots had a
• 32:22
  really solid season. They they excelled what they
• 32:27
  were expected to do and obviously reached the biggest
• 32:31
  game of the year. And what more can you ask from a
• 32:35
  team really at that point? I've just found out Instagram
• 32:38
  clip for for next week a dolphins fan saying the patriots
• 32:44
  up there. But yeah, it's I I would a would
• 32:50
  agree. And on that for me, the Kansas
• 32:57
  City didn't the hills city chiefs didn't live with the
• 32:59
  delivery to expectations from what they're doing in the past.
• 33:04
  I think they were one of the biggest let downs for me
• 33:08
  watching like the the year they've always had this kind of
• 33:14
  like how many more years have they got left of this dynasty
• 33:17
  run that they're having? And it was always going to come
• 33:19
  to end at some point. But I didn't think it would come
• 33:22
  to kind of as an abrupt. They just didn't seem to look
• 33:25
  like in my opinion anyway, like they were getting going now as a
• 33:28
  surprise team to who did well, the Bears.
• 33:32
  The bears from me from start to finish all year.
• 33:35
  Obviously they lost a few games to begin with, but like every
• 33:39
  every year was just a every year I've done you, I've just done AU
• 33:48
  every week was a surprise as well as what I was trying to
• 33:51
  say. It was exciting to watch.
• 33:55
  Keep improving, keep improving and it were good.
• 33:58
  Now, don't get me wrong, the Patriots, I agree with you are
• 34:00
  also we're also ahead of schedule was what we like to
• 34:04
  say. We're also good to kind of see
• 34:06
  him get going. But for me the the the most
• 34:09
  improved team for the year was was was the Bears.
• 34:13
  It'll be interesting to see where they go next season.
• 34:17
  Obviously it'll be it'll be year three of a rookie quarterback,
• 34:20
  which is normally the year that you see the big, big leap.
• 34:27
  And for Ben Johnson, who he came to the Bears with high
• 34:34
  expectations, but I think he sort of excelled them quite
• 34:37
  quickly, didn't he? And he and he took that offence
• 34:40
  to that next level. And obviously, like we've just
• 34:42
  said, they they drafted really well and they executed well on
• 34:47
  the field. And Williams looked the real
• 34:50
  deal this season. He had some absolutely beautiful
• 34:53
  throws, like some absolutely absolute Dimes.
• 34:57
  And I think it's just a lot of right pieces, right place, right
• 35:04
  time, sort of thing all coming together.
• 35:07
  It's funny you mentioned the Chiefs though, because it it was
• 35:09
  kind of a nice season generally, wasn't it with the teams this
• 35:12
  this year that were in the mix, like the Bears that they
• 35:17
  obviously they made the play offs.
• 35:18
  I think they won their division and it's nice to see some
• 35:24
  different teams in the mix. Chiefs had a less people on a
• 35:28
  crap year. Like it was really, really poor
• 35:30
  from their recent recent success.
• 35:34
  But it was nice to see. It was kind of nice to see.
• 35:37
  And that's not me bashing the Chiefs.
• 35:39
  It was just nice to see different teams in the mix.
• 35:42
  And I'll bash the chiefs. I'll bash them all day long.
• 35:47
  Yeah, I will bash them all down. They they were, they were ass
• 35:50
  and it and it showed like they they were nice because Mahomes
• 35:55
  just he's a fraud. It's not really he's really
• 35:59
  good, but it was just frustrating from a patriots
• 36:01
  point of view, watching someone take the dynasty to the dynasty
• 36:04
  lead. But I I would I would agree.
• 36:08
  I would agree from that guy going as as what a what a
• 36:13
  research coach brought a nice little factor in there for his
• 36:15
  gone from 11 and O1 score games in 2024 to O and 9 now.
• 36:19
  That's just not that's not an overnight turn around.
• 36:21
  Like it's kind of rare to see something happen now.
• 36:25
  Does the Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift media have something to do
• 36:32
  with it because he's a key part of the offence and was it was
• 36:37
  the off field, the life that he's living?
• 36:40
  I don't. I don't think so.
• 36:44
  Because like you, you heard it a lot.
• 36:46
  So this is year 2 of him being involved with Taylor and you
• 36:54
  heard it in the first season, you heard it in the first season
• 36:58
  that always he's been distracted, blah, blah, blah,
• 37:01
  blah, blah. But then in the second season
• 37:03
  leading up to it, it was, you know, it's fully invested, it's
• 37:08
  full pre season, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 37:11
  So I don't know, like ultimately the professional athletes aren't
• 37:15
  there. We've been in relationships
• 37:17
  before. I think they're making a big
• 37:19
  song and dance about the fact that it's Taylor Swift.
• 37:21
  I think the year before, you know, she had a massive tour
• 37:23
  that he was attending and cameo in and stuff like that.
• 37:26
  So I think there's elements to it, but I don't know, it's an
• 37:31
  interesting one to see what happens next year.
• 37:37
  Obviously, if I'm if my research is right, he's a free agent
• 37:42
  technically. So it'll be interesting to see
• 37:46
  what happens. He's not said he's retiring.
• 37:49
  I'd assume that a bit of big song and dance about that.
• 37:51
  I think he's probably too arrogant to want to go out on a
• 37:53
  season like they had. I think that's probably the
• 37:55
  reason he didn't go out the season before and hoped he could
• 37:58
  sort of run it back. Does he retire a chief I?
• 38:02
  Don't think he's got to, I think.
• 38:07
  Yeah, because I think like when Gronkowski didn't like initially
• 38:10
  retire as a Patriot, I think I think he should have done.
• 38:14
  Obviously I could see why he went and then why he wouldn't
• 38:16
  have gone anywhere. I could suck he went elsewhere
• 38:24
  as such, but I don't know. I think I agree.
• 38:26
  I think he does. I think he retired as a chief.
• 38:28
  I think he's got nothing else to do.
• 38:30
  I mean, he could do a Philip Rivers thing, couldn't he?
• 38:32
  And go to another team and then retire with the team he wanted
• 38:37
  to retire with. And then go back to that team
• 38:41
  again three years after like. Could you imagine?
• 38:44
  That retiring a Chargers thing was just stupid, wasn't it?
• 38:47
  So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if Kelsey did something stupid
• 38:49
  like that. But.
• 38:50
  No, so you we mentioned the Bears and you mentioned the
• 38:54
  Patriots in terms of surprising you how well they did this year.
• 38:59
  Who's ahead of their rebuild schedule then?
• 39:02
  Now we can we can kind of take the Patriots getting to the
• 39:07
  Super Bowl away because of the schedule and the Bears had a
• 39:11
  tougher schedule. So let's just talk like to what
• 39:15
  we've seen so far, who had that kind of impact this year?
• 39:21
  Who's who do you think ahead of their their rebuild as such?
• 39:27
  It's a difficult one because like the Colts were a really
• 39:34
  weird team at the beginning of the season and they they shocked
• 39:38
  me at first. I was thinking, oh, God, these,
• 39:40
  these are really, these are really showing something here.
• 39:43
  These are going to have a good go.
• 39:44
  They've got Danny Dimes and you know, a few nice pieces and, and
• 39:47
  they started so strong. I think it was like A7 on one
• 39:51
  start and then you know, I mean even more so.
• 39:56
  I remember sat in a local pub that we spoke about a few times.
• 40:00
  I remember watching the Colts absolutely dismantle the
• 40:04
  Dolphins on the 1st Sunday and I was like this is atrocious.
• 40:10
  We've been absolutely smashed a bit by the Colts.
• 40:13
  And then they had a real strong start to the season, like
• 40:14
  alright, OK, it makes me feel a little bit better actually.
• 40:16
  We've been smashed by a team that's good.
• 40:18
  And then it took that like 7 straight losses, I think it was.
• 40:21
  And, but I think they've potentially got some promise for
• 40:26
  future seasons. I think the Bears, I know we
• 40:31
  spoke quite a fair bit. The Bears are the team that
• 40:33
  stand out to me. Is that being ahead of the
• 40:35
  curve? It's definitely, definitely
• 40:37
  there for them. They're the they're the name,
• 40:41
  but I don't know, there wasn't many teams that jumped out to me
• 40:46
  this season of, of who'd gone through that big rebuild.
• 40:49
  I think if you look at teams that maybe over performed
• 40:51
  expectations, you know, the Panthers who won their division,
• 40:56
  although they won it with a losing record.
• 40:59
  I think the top three teams in there were Panthers books and
• 41:02
  Falcons all on an 8 and 9 record.
• 41:05
  Yeah. So they kind of they they're a
• 41:08
  bit mixed because they they stand out because they were in
• 41:10
  the play offs, but they're still a losing record.
• 41:13
  Also, the Bears was mentioned. The Broncos, I think have kind
• 41:18
  of overachieved. I think, you know, the the Bonex
• 41:23
  in his second year, absolutely smashing it.
• 41:29
  But, and I only saw this the other day, Zach and this'll,
• 41:32
  this'll make you happy a little bit.
• 41:34
  OK. In terms of strength and
• 41:35
  schedule, so I've hammered Patriots for it the entire time
• 41:38
  we've been doing this podcast. It's in its infancy, but the
• 41:42
  second easiest strength of schedule was Denver Broncos.
• 41:49
  So I don't know if you knew that or not, but I, I.
• 41:54
  Saw it the other day. So you got these two teams who
• 41:57
  were battling out for the AFC and obviously had the easiest
• 42:02
  schedules. The Texans, however, had one of
• 42:06
  the tougher ones, if I remember rightly.
• 42:08
  Now, don't quote me on this. You know, we said it's not going
• 42:11
  to be absolute balls to the wall analysis, but I'm sure the
• 42:14
  Texans had one of the harder strength of schedules, but
• 42:17
  actually still performed at 12:00 and 5:00.
• 42:20
  And I think they've got so much potential to be really, really
• 42:24
  dominant next year. So if you're looking at those
• 42:26
  teams that maybe are ahead of schedule, I don't know if that's
• 42:30
  the right phrase for Houston, but I think they they they
• 42:34
  definitely exceeded expectations and I think they've got the
• 42:38
  potential to maintain that next year as well.
• 42:41
  I think if, if my, my backing would be Houston on this just
• 42:46
  just before I go into my backing would be huge on this and the
• 42:49
  reasons why. And I agree with everything you
• 42:50
  said about the other teams. And there's there's teams that I
• 42:54
  think the Colts are in serious trouble in the next two years
• 42:58
  because I've got a lot of players on contracts and they're
• 43:02
  going to want pain. Taylor's going to be one of them
• 43:04
  that's going to take up a lot of their carpet.
• 43:06
  If they don't pay him, they're losing a big chunk of their they
• 43:09
  can they afford Taylor under QB. Now that's, that's a different
• 43:12
  story. I think the Colts are either
• 43:14
  going to go, if they don't play this correctly, they're going to
• 43:17
  be up Creek without a paddle within the next two years.
• 43:19
  Personally for me, the Houston Texans though, are one of the
• 43:23
  most dangerous teams within the next two years, within the next
• 43:27
  five years, if they haven't won a Super Bowl, I'll show me ours
• 43:29
  because they are. They have to.
• 43:31
  They have one side of the ball we need to work on now.
• 43:34
  They have recruited so well, signed so well, drafted so well
• 43:38
  in that in that defensive front that they don't have to worry
• 43:42
  about our defence now for the foreseeable and they can just
• 43:44
  worry about signing offensive players really.
• 43:47
  Now you look at other teams, let's take the Patriots, for
• 43:50
  instance, who, yes, are above their quote unquote schedule.
• 43:55
  Yes, they you know, they did really well this year, but they
• 43:58
  have areas on both sides of the ball that they need to work on
• 44:03
  going forward. Whereas like the Texans have one
• 44:06
  side of their ball kind of lockdown and it's quite an
• 44:09
  important side of the ball. Taking their schedule in to talk
• 44:12
  where they, you know, quote, UN quote, have one of the most had
• 44:16
  one of the one of the toughest schedules this year and still
• 44:20
  finished twelve and five with that defence just says, you know
• 44:22
  what, boys, I'm going to leave you all up to do what you're
• 44:25
  doing and I'm going to focus on this offensive side thing.
• 44:28
  Look at CJ Stroud as either man that's going to take us to a
• 44:30
  Super Bowl, probably not having a couple of years now.
• 44:34
  I don't think he is. I think he's a good QB, but I
• 44:36
  don't think he's elite QB. And then just looking around the
• 44:39
  other offence and seeing what else they can kind of pick up
• 44:42
  the free agents, which we'll get into soon, see what's available
• 44:45
  and go from there. So I think genuinely Houston,
• 44:47
  Texans could be a force to be reckoned with within the next
• 44:51
  two years minimum. But do you think?
• 44:53
  Do you think that the not the CJ not been elite?
• 44:58
  Do you think that really matters?
• 45:00
  Like I think I think I touched on it even last week or the week
• 45:03
  before and you know, if they've got an absolute solid defence,
• 45:08
  which they have, like that's a really solid defence.
• 45:13
  I'm you know, is that is Donald elite?
• 45:15
  Like I wouldn't say so. I thought he had an absolutely
• 45:17
  outstanding year, but I don't think he's elite.
• 45:20
  Is Drake may elite? No, not yet.
• 45:24
  He's got the potential. He's got the potential to be a
• 45:27
  real good quarterback. But did he show that he's elite
• 45:29
  so far? No, he showed he's a solid
• 45:32
  quarterback. He can run, but he did not look
• 45:35
  elite in the Super Bowl. CJ did look elite in Year 1.
• 45:40
  He looked he looked brilliant and there was so much hype about
• 45:43
  that. And I think it was just one of
• 45:44
  those seasons where he overachieved Season 1, So then
• 45:47
  season 2 and three, he looks poor.
• 45:50
  But if he's solid, if he's he's enough and his defence is elite
• 45:55
  and he's got a few good pieces around him like I think they
• 45:58
  could, I think they could go all the way.
• 46:01
  Yeah, maybe so and I think I think I think if you just get
• 46:05
  dead screwed up a bit more with this pressure like obviously,
• 46:07
  you know, the patriots crumble under pressure in the Super
• 46:11
  Bowl, but it's pot, you know, pot got a block and all that.
• 46:14
  But I think C JS big issue, especially in the offseason
• 46:17
  while in that postseason. Sorry was and the pressure, I
• 46:20
  think the pressure got to him. I just didn't think he'd made
• 46:22
  the right decisions that he should have done that he'd been
• 46:25
  doing all year round. And like you say, yeah, he's not
• 46:27
  elite. Thinking back here sumdial's not
• 46:29
  elite, but he got then he absolutely dominated and and he
• 46:33
  smashed it and he did really well.
• 46:34
  I think it's what you have around you.
• 46:36
  And again, yeah, I think if we just matures up a little bit
• 46:39
  again, that Houston Texans team is going to be something
• 46:44
  something to be to be now teams that should be good and are good
• 46:50
  but crumble. Are the Buffalo Bills really
• 46:53
  going to be a Super Bowl contender within the next 12 to
• 46:57
  24 months or not with the with the likes of the Texans kind of
• 47:02
  making that uprising, the Seahawks making that uprising
• 47:05
  the you know, the Buffalo Bills were at one point their team to
• 47:08
  be in and they couldn't get to the Super Bowl.
• 47:10
  I feel like now there's a lot of teams catching them up in that
• 47:13
  regular season level and that postseason level and that are
• 47:16
  just going to get there before them again.
• 47:19
  But are the are the basically the Bills are Super Bowl
• 47:22
  contender. I have this real like annoyance
• 47:27
  with the bills that and I know you'll say it's biassed but you
• 47:31
  know you're you're fandom is in the same division.
• 47:34
  I just always feel like the bills are it sounds mad
• 47:38
  considering where they get. I feel like they're overrated
• 47:41
  and I know that sounds crazy to say because they get the record
• 47:43
  they do and they've they're always in the play offs and
• 47:46
  they're always like up there in the play offs, but I just I just
• 47:50
  can't see it. They never feel like that
• 47:52
  complete team. You know, even just this most
• 47:56
  recent season. I'm I'm going to my own fandom
• 47:58
  like Miami, like took it to them big style Miami this season,
• 48:05
  like really, really took it. And on the flip side, though,
• 48:11
  they also the bills. This is reached the playoffs and
• 48:16
  and got to where they did. But I just don't I don't see
• 48:20
  them winning a Super Bowl. I don't see Josh Allen ever
• 48:23
  winning a super Super Bowl. I think he has potential, but I
• 48:28
  don't think he is the player that he's always made out to be.
• 48:32
  I don't think he deserved MVP last year.
• 48:34
  I think he's a brilliant quarterback.
• 48:35
  Would I take him at the Dolphins?
• 48:36
  Yes, I would right now, absolutely.
• 48:39
  But I don't think he is. I don't think he's a top five
• 48:44
  quarterback, personally. Not about that one.
• 48:48
  And I know, I know, I know that's bold, but I just, I don't
• 48:52
  think he changes. No, I'm probably saying this
• 48:58
  wrong. He does change the team, but I
• 48:59
  don't think he is someone who could go walk into any other
• 49:02
  team and be that deciding factor.
• 49:07
  I just think I think he's just so up and down.
• 49:12
  You can have those games where he's absolutely lights out and
• 49:14
  he is top five and he it's top two, top one, you know, but then
• 49:18
  he has them absolute stinker games where he is atrocious.
• 49:24
  And I know if you you know, we'll compare him to Brady,
• 49:26
  who's without a doubt the greatest of all time.
• 49:29
  If anyone wants to say he's not the mad until proven otherwise.
• 49:33
  But I never really remember him and I'm I'm sure there will be
• 49:36
  odd ones but I never really remember him having those
• 49:39
  absolutely stinker games. Like he might have averaged
• 49:44
  games you know? But I can't.
• 49:47
  I can't ever remember like remember him absolutely shit in
• 49:50
  the bed and completely basically losing his team the game.
• 49:55
  Whereas I have seen Josh Allen lose games for the Bills.
• 49:59
  For me, Josh Allen's, he's he's an established QB now.
• 50:01
  He's no longer the new guy. He's an established QB now.
• 50:03
  And I think the Bills for me are consistently above average in a,
• 50:11
  in a polite way to the Bills, like they're a good, they're a
• 50:13
  good team. And if they if the Bills beat
• 50:16
  you, they beat you. But at the same time they can be
• 50:18
  beaten and then, you know, researched, calculating clutch.
• 50:21
  They're the second worst rushing defence in the NFL, right?
• 50:25
  And teams picked up on that and team just ran against them and
• 50:29
  they just didn't know how to stop it.
• 50:30
  Now it's not all about Josh Allen.
• 50:31
  It's about the entire team. I get that.
• 50:33
  But at the same time, it's you kind of come as a collective,
• 50:37
  don't you? And I just, I feel like it gets
• 50:40
  to week 5 and it's, oh, the Bills of the Bills are on form
• 50:45
  now. The Bills are going to be
• 50:46
  getting to the Super Bowl, the Bills this, the Bills that.
• 50:48
  And then they just crumble and they just start looking a bit
• 50:50
  more mediocre. And how many years do you get of
• 50:55
  with the Bills being the Bills and like, don't run.
• 50:58
  They're a good team and they're a good organisation and you can
• 51:01
  only play what's in front of you.
• 51:03
  But that being said, do they keep balling it?
• 51:07
  Did they bottle it? When it comes to the bigger, the
• 51:09
  bigger stage and it gets to the latter end of the of the season
• 51:11
  when the need to put them them points in the bar.
• 51:15
  And I just I just don't think they do.
• 51:17
  I think they're a bit lot lost at times.
• 51:18
  And now in particular, they've they've had a they've had a bit
• 51:26
  of that coaching turn around. I think I'm, I keep using this
• 51:30
  two year kind of what where the team have been two year type
• 51:33
  thing, because I think 24 a month within in the NFL can be
• 51:35
  massive for a team. Look at the bears, for instance.
• 51:39
  Where will they be in two years time with this new coaching
• 51:42
  setup? Like, I don't know, I I I don't
• 51:46
  see it from there. But you mentioned the Miami
• 51:49
  Dolphins and putting it to the Bills, your Fins this year, I'm
• 51:56
  not going to lie to you, did exactly what I thought they were
• 51:58
  going to do. I thought they were just a bit
• 52:01
  meh. But then show the light, the
• 52:03
  opposite of the Bills. They're consistently below
• 52:06
  average in my opinion. But when they're above, when
• 52:08
  they play well, they absolutely dominate.
• 52:10
  And I'm just pointing that out. Like when they win, their win
• 52:12
  games good, but they were just a bit below average.
• 52:15
  What about your Fins? What were you view this year on
• 52:18
  your boys? It's so hard, isn't it?
• 52:24
  As a fan, you never want to see your team end that way that they
• 52:27
  did. And and like I'm I'm openly up
• 52:30
  being a Tua fan, but I think it's I think it's time for a
• 52:35
  change and I think it's come at the right time.
• 52:37
  And I might be Daniel fan. I think he's a great coach.
• 52:42
  It's a great mind. Is he a head coach?
• 52:48
  You know what I mean? Look at Tua with with Flo before
• 52:53
  and he was just woeful because he had a coach who didn't
• 52:57
  believe in him. And then you bring Mike McDaniel
• 52:59
  in and the impacts they had. I mean, that 2023 season, I
• 53:05
  think it was was absolutely unreal.
• 53:09
  You know, the Dolphins should have the record for the biggest
• 53:13
  victory against another team. And the only reason they didn't
• 53:16
  is because Mike McDaniels is a good guy and didn't put another
• 53:19
  couple of touchdowns on the Broncos.
• 53:21
  Like he went for a field goal when he could have just, I think
• 53:24
  it was, I mean, what was it like it was like a third down or
• 53:27
  something. He went for a field goal instead
• 53:29
  of like putting more points on him.
• 53:30
  Basically something stupid like that.
• 53:34
  But it just hit, it hit a wall, I think.
• 53:39
  And I know this could never work in the NFL, but what would have
• 53:42
  been amazing is to see someone come in like an established head
• 53:46
  coach, bring them in and keep Mike McDaniel as a offensive
• 53:51
  coordinator. Like I'd have absolutely loved
• 53:54
  that. And I know that won't work.
• 53:56
  And I know why you'd never do that.
• 53:58
  It's it's a weird scenario to be in, but like, I don't know this
• 54:02
  this year was it needed to happen.
• 54:05
  We had a strong finish like which was good to see that, you
• 54:08
  know, strong for the quality of the team.
• 54:11
  And obviously we've as, as will have been seeing since about the
• 54:15
  only NFL news has been this week really, we're we're starting to
• 54:21
  sell house and get rid and chop the dead ward and the biggest
• 54:25
  name of them. Obviously, I mean, obviously
• 54:26
  Chubb's been caught, which I'll be honest is frustrating, but
• 54:29
  also shows, not that he's been caught, but it shows the
• 54:34
  situation the Dolphins were dealing with last season.
• 54:37
  We had offers for Chubb before the trade deadline last year and
• 54:40
  we could have shipped him off, but now we've cut him for
• 54:43
  absolutely nothing. So, you know, take a sixth round
• 54:46
  or a fifth round or whatever it is you could get take it because
• 54:48
  the season was done. So why didn't you do that?
• 54:50
  It's so stupid. Caught.
• 54:53
  Him, but the big name obviously is Tyreke, isn't it?
• 54:56
  Tyreke's gone. It was expected and he he's for
• 55:03
  him. It's going to be interesting to
• 55:04
  see what's next for Tyreke. I think it was almost a given
• 55:07
  that he wasn't going to be here this next season and I think the
• 55:13
  there weren't. The rumour was he was going to
• 55:15
  be traded and then obviously he did.
• 55:17
  His knee, dislocated knee, multiple ligaments, he might not
• 55:20
  even be fit for the start of next season.
• 55:22
  It's that significant of an injury is is in his early 30s
• 55:26
  now as a receiver, as a speedster, It's a knee injury.
• 55:30
  I think he's still going to be a good pick up for somebody and
• 55:35
  it. Strikes me like those it strikes
• 55:38
  like the the the DeAndre Hopkins, you know, when he's in
• 55:40
  his prime, then just kind of slowed down a lot that went to a
• 55:42
  team and just became. But I think I think Hills got
• 55:45
  too much of A personality and too which we need to go to do
• 55:47
  this Now. I've got a bit of a set, not a
• 55:50
  sentimental value, but I don't know, a bit of a love hate
• 55:53
  relationship with with him at the moment.
• 55:54
  And I know players don't like they don't like this view when
• 55:57
  it comes down to it. But fantasy football, I've
• 56:00
  traded for the guy the week of it happening, a trader from the
• 56:03
  week of it happening. So I want him to come back.
• 56:06
  I want to come back as a wide receiver when I want to also
• 56:07
  dominate. But I, yeah, I just don't see
• 56:10
  it. But on the tube situation and
• 56:12
  and you get in the offers now, hindsight's a wonderful thing.
• 56:15
  And at the time, you didn't know where you were going to be.
• 56:18
  Matt, me and Matt McDonough was your, was your, he was your head
• 56:20
  coach. He was, you know, he, you were
• 56:24
  going to get a fight at the end of the season when when this was
• 56:26
  happening. I think you can take a positive
• 56:29
  from this. Whereas, yes, you could turn
• 56:33
  around and go, oh, well, you know, we could, we could have
• 56:35
  got this for him. So we'll just keep him because
• 56:36
  he's a good player and people value him.
• 56:38
  No, he's not right for this team now.
• 56:40
  And the ownership and the leadership from the top are
• 56:43
  going, yeah, we had an offer for you the right time on there.
• 56:46
  We're going to try and get one now off you Pop releasing you
• 56:50
  like they're good. They're going to be taking some
• 56:52
  sort of hit, right? They're going to be taking some
• 56:54
  sort of hit on his cap for his wages for that.
• 56:56
  Yeah, you know. Yeah, there will be I.
• 56:58
  Think, I think, I think it's Nope, I think, I think it's, I
• 57:05
  think it's a positive you could take from it on a if you're
• 57:08
  looking for one somewhere, I do think there's a positive in
• 57:10
  there. You could you could take me from
• 57:12
  a organisation point of view is what I'm trying to get it there.
• 57:16
  I think they're doing the absolute right thing.
• 57:17
  Like I'm really excited for next season.
• 57:20
  Well, no, I'm not really excited for next season at all.
• 57:22
  Actually. I'm excited for the season after
• 57:24
  because it's going to be a rough all season.
• 57:27
  And what appears to be happening and it's, it's the two of
• 57:31
  contracts that's hanging over it now.
• 57:33
  And to see what they do with this, that'll be the that's the
• 57:36
  jigsaw piece that's missing that we need to see where it falls.
• 57:39
  But they are basically from the look of it saying we're going to
• 57:43
  take these cap hits now and basically in a position to reset
• 57:48
  for 2027 and almost have a fresh cap to use.
• 57:51
  So they've got rid of the big the big contract.
• 57:53
  Well, you know, they've got rid of Reek, they've got rid of
• 57:55
  Chubb, you know, a couple of other guys there as well and not
• 58:00
  significantly as significant on the cap hits.
• 58:04
  But obviously when Tua, when the decisions made with Tua and you
• 58:08
  see all sorts of reporting and it's all a load of crap because
• 58:11
  no one, I mean, people have sources, but who really knows
• 58:13
  what's going on because you're not going to deal all your
• 58:15
  cards. There's there's rumours that
• 58:17
  they are trying to offload him as a trade, but take some of the
• 58:23
  cap hit to sweeten the deal and things.
• 58:26
  And I think it'd be interesting if they do cut him.
• 58:30
  They've got some flexibility depending when they cut to.
• 58:33
  I think it's a post June 1st cut.
• 58:37
  I forgot that date, right? They can split the contract
• 58:41
  across two years now. I think if I'm honest, I'd just,
• 58:44
  I'd just take the hit this year, right, 2026 off.
• 58:48
  I know you can never publicly say that and do that as an
• 58:51
  organisation, but you know, they've got AGM and a head coach
• 58:55
  who are in lockstep and if the organisation on board with it,
• 58:59
  Stephen Ross is pretty good for standing by guys.
• 59:01
  He doesn't fire easily. To be fair, they write 2026 off,
• 59:07
  take the full hit onto his contract.
• 59:11
  I know that might not be quite fully possible and they might
• 59:14
  need to cut some of the guys and it's cracks.
• 59:15
  It's their jobs, it's their livelihood.
• 59:17
  But as an organisation do that and then 2027 you start and you
• 59:21
  hit fresh and like go for it, go for it.
• 59:25
  Then like all Hog, then what we've been doing for so many
• 59:28
  years is just patching holes with that's and you need that
• 59:32
  mix of rookies and vets, but. You know Packers have done it.
• 59:35
  Well, they've drafted really well.
• 59:37
  Where do you pick this year? Well, what What you're?
• 59:41
  Just outside the top. We're just outside the top 10.
• 59:44
  So realistically, you're not going to get a great QB in this
• 59:46
  draft anyway. So like you said, do you?
• 59:49
  No, and I don't think there is one outside of Mendoza.
• 59:52
  No, no. Do you, do you keep hold of tour
• 59:56
  for another year under a new head coach?
• 59:57
  Shall you get on with it? See.
• 1:00:00
  I don't know. Well.
• 1:00:00
  This is this is what I've been like playing with in my head.
• 1:00:02
  I'm like, why, why do we cut him now?
• 1:00:05
  Because you could still keep him and just see what happens.
• 1:00:09
  But it's, it's then the the drama, isn't it?
• 1:00:14
  And it's the politics and it's all that sort of stuff.
• 1:00:16
  And so like, I don't know, and this might just be my non
• 1:00:21
  knowledgeable head here, like what benefit do we get out of
• 1:00:24
  cutting him and taking the full hit on his cap out of just
• 1:00:28
  keeping him other than. You're paying the same kind.
• 1:00:32
  Of stuff. Yeah, you're paying the same and
• 1:00:34
  and I think you, you know, if he sits down with two and goes
• 1:00:38
  right, you've got one season to kind of show us what you're what
• 1:00:43
  you're doing. I don't know.
• 1:00:45
  I don't know. It's for them and I can see
• 1:00:48
  obviously you said you you guys have been struggling as such
• 1:00:52
  this year and you've got that kind of offseason kind of locker
• 1:00:55
  room stuff to to to go to go with with it.
• 1:00:59
  Who, who in your mind you should kind of wrap up the team
• 1:01:02
  situation here. We might touch on more teams
• 1:01:05
  next week because there's a lot of teams to go through.
• 1:01:06
  There's a lot of talking to go through with it as well.
• 1:01:08
  But like, who in your head here is one kind of offseason away
• 1:01:19
  from being like there, if that makes sense?
• 1:01:25
  Not like super bombs. I'm not talking like Super Bowl,
• 1:01:28
  but like who's one offseason away from being that contender
• 1:01:33
  when it comes to the playoffs and pushing a bit for like
• 1:01:36
  Denver were this year round, if I may say they they are that one
• 1:01:39
  offseason to make them get to where they were.
• 1:01:43
  I think there's the team that's always sort of there on the cusp
• 1:01:47
  and the get there somewhere because they're arguably one of
• 1:01:53
  the most consistent teams in the league.
• 1:01:54
  And it's the 49ers for me. They they have some unlucky
• 1:02:00
  stuff. They have some unlucky like
• 1:02:03
  injury situations, don't they over the years and they've got
• 1:02:07
  Shanahan who's he's the coach who's like it's just been out of
• 1:02:13
  reach that Super Bowl. It's just been out of reach and
• 1:02:15
  getting it. But he's arguably one of the
• 1:02:17
  best coaches in the league. He's got his own tree, but he
• 1:02:21
  doesn't have the Super Bowls, unless I'm completely mistaken
• 1:02:24
  there. But it's it's the Niners just
• 1:02:30
  and I don't even I couldn't even sit here and tell you what they
• 1:02:33
  need because they they seem there.
• 1:02:38
  But they could just it could be the given year then and they
• 1:02:43
  make it and they do it and they get over that hump and then they
• 1:02:46
  bring it in. I have my own thoughts on Purdy.
• 1:02:49
  I think Purdy's overrated. I think he's fine.
• 1:02:53
  I think he's he's a solid starting quarterback, but I
• 1:02:57
  think he's definitely middle of the pack.
• 1:02:58
  I think he was hyped up something chronic because of the
• 1:03:03
  success of the ad as Mr Irrelevant, like absolutely
• 1:03:06
  deserves the credit, but I don't think he's this top tier
• 1:03:10
  quarterback at all. And I think you hear the media
• 1:03:13
  starting to come round to that same narrative now.
• 1:03:16
  Not saying that I'm an Oracle or anything, but you know, and I
• 1:03:21
  you know what, you know, what worries me actually is someone
• 1:03:23
  like Tua going to the 49ers and you have someone like Shanahan
• 1:03:29
  with getting his hands on him and winning the Super Bowl like
• 1:03:34
  a Sund Arnold's Jets fan sort of scenario, right?
• 1:03:39
  But I could see it though, honestly, when when there's been
• 1:03:41
  talks with him, either been cut or traded over this last year or
• 1:03:45
  so, that's that's the one I always think, God, if you go to
• 1:03:48
  the Niners and I just feel like someone like him with Shanahan
• 1:03:53
  and the offence they've got and and the DS solid, like I just
• 1:03:58
  think, yeah, I think they're they're so close.
• 1:04:02
  They're so close. But they're just.
• 1:04:04
  They're almost like the bills of the NFC, like they're so close
• 1:04:07
  and they're constantly there, but just not quite getting over
• 1:04:09
  that hurdle. Yeah, I, I, I'm inclined to
• 1:04:13
  agree with you on that. I've got a the, the Raiders for
• 1:04:17
  me, I think are an offseason or two to this offseason that
• 1:04:23
  could, they could go on a one of two ways.
• 1:04:25
  I know that sounds kind of like cliche with it, but let's say
• 1:04:28
  they get Mendoza, which they're going to do right and he's
• 1:04:31
  starting QB and is as good as what it looked like he's in
• 1:04:33
  college. They've got gently background.
• 1:04:35
  If they can kind of bring in some decent free agents because
• 1:04:38
  they've got a a desirable location now, like, you know,
• 1:04:44
  got new coaching staff coming in.
• 1:04:46
  They've got the exciting QB look like looking like he's going to
• 1:04:49
  come in. They've already got some
• 1:04:51
  established players there. Can they build on that?
• 1:04:53
  Can they go from that? But the flip side to is
• 1:04:55
  sometimes too much change is not not a good thing for a team.
• 1:04:59
  But I think the Raiders out too. I think the Raiders out too far
• 1:05:02
  away from it, to be fair. I think they just, I think they
• 1:05:04
  just had, I think this year was a lot of poor coaching.
• 1:05:09
  I just, I think it wasn't the right scheme and the right style
• 1:05:11
  of football for what Raiders personality and Raiders players
• 1:05:15
  are to be fair to. Yeah.
• 1:05:18
  And I'd agree. I think I'd say they're probably
• 1:05:21
  more than a season away. I think they've got a few pieces
• 1:05:23
  they need to do and I think, you know, it's kind of going to be
• 1:05:27
  like the Bear. I think they've got a potential.
• 1:05:29
  I don't think they're quite going to reach the potential
• 1:05:31
  where the Bears did, but I think they've got that potential to
• 1:05:35
  make a big shift overnight. But then I think year 2 when
• 1:05:38
  they've got a second year quarterbacks, we know how
• 1:05:41
  difficult the league is and a rookie quarterback, it's very
• 1:05:45
  rare they have super, super success.
• 1:05:48
  But I think 2 years with Mendoza, it's three years with
• 1:05:53
  Jaunty. It'd be interesting to see what
• 1:05:56
  happens with the Max Crosby and. You.
• 1:06:02
  Know a coach who's had a year and then another year after that
• 1:06:05
  to push it. I think year two of the Kubiak
• 1:06:08
  experiment for better words would be would be the point for
• 1:06:12
  Raiders for me and also the next year.
• 1:06:14
  But I think they've definitely got all the potential in the
• 1:06:16
  world to to make a leap next year.
• 1:06:19
  That's it. And looking now again, guys, if
• 1:06:22
  you are listening to this while without the visuals up, if you
• 1:06:25
  are safe to do so, you want to watch the visuals, we're on
• 1:06:28
  screen now. We have a list of the notable
• 1:06:30
  free agents going into the 2026 season.
• 1:06:32
  Now, the teams that could kind of look up at who they're going
• 1:06:35
  to be potentially picking up some really big names on there
• 1:06:39
  that especially if you don't get the the tags anyway or or re
• 1:06:42
  sign, for instance, Trey Hendrickson being one of them.
• 1:06:44
  He could be an absolute storm. I think he leaves and goes
• 1:06:48
  somewhere else just because the Bengals aren't going to get back
• 1:06:50
  to the Super Bowl anytime soon. Looking out.
• 1:06:52
  They're looking and they'll want that success, But there's some
• 1:06:55
  definite, noticeable notable names on this list and that
• 1:06:59
  strike out to you and where their landing spots could be.
• 1:07:03
  Yeah, I think there's a few that that obviously George Pickens is
• 1:07:06
  a big name. Be interested to see what
• 1:07:09
  happens there. I thought he had a a solid year
• 1:07:11
  at Dallas. You know, they could quite
• 1:07:12
  easily re sign him. Malik Willis is one that stands
• 1:07:16
  out to me just as a Dolphins fan.
• 1:07:18
  There's a lot of talk about him coming to the Dolphins.
• 1:07:20
  He, you know, he had some solid time on the field at the Packers
• 1:07:26
  and obviously we've got a lot of Packers that have come our way.
• 1:07:28
  So I could see that happening as well.
• 1:07:32
  Obviously the biggest name on there probably has to be Kenneth
• 1:07:35
  Walker, obviously Super Bowl MVP.
• 1:07:39
  He's now a free agent and the reporting I've seen today is
• 1:07:41
  that he's not going to be franchise tagged.
• 1:07:43
  So that'll be really interesting one to see what happens there.
• 1:07:47
  Like how often is it that you get a Super Bowl MVP then hit
• 1:07:51
  the free agency market the very next week?
• 1:07:55
  Oh, well, it's a month and it technically it's March, so
• 1:07:57
  they're officially free agents. But obviously one not on that
• 1:08:01
  list is Tyree Kill. I think he's probably one of the
• 1:08:04
  the more interesting stories, but you've got a few good
• 1:08:06
  running backs hitting resol. Agency this year.
• 1:08:11
  Yeah. He's he's exciting and I don't
• 1:08:15
  think I think his mindsets always been I'm at The Jets.
• 1:08:18
  So like I think put him in a in a decent team or a good team or,
• 1:08:24
  you know, a good organisation, should I say.
• 1:08:26
  I think that I think he could be a genuinely really, really good
• 1:08:31
  running back and putting him with that team where they did,
• 1:08:34
  where they need not powerhouse without speeds.
• 1:08:36
  There's a running back of that, you know, in particular good
• 1:08:39
  kind of Walker, again, like you said, is a name that I'm
• 1:08:42
  surprised I'm seeing on there. Etienne as well there, Travis
• 1:08:46
  Etienne from from the Jags, the running back there some for me,
• 1:08:49
  there's three decent potentially game team breaking running backs
• 1:08:54
  if they're in the right scheme. And it's I think I think it
• 1:08:58
  should be an exciting 1. You got Mike Evans on there as
• 1:09:01
  well. Buccaneers wide receiver who's
• 1:09:03
  up until this year, how many 1000 yard seasons did they have
• 1:09:07
  on the bounce up until this year before getting, you know, having
• 1:09:09
  a bit of an injury, which medicine can't do anymore, but
• 1:09:13
  it will. It's, it's just it should, I
• 1:09:18
  think it should be exciting. It's going to be exciting to.
• 1:09:21
  See, Mike Evans could be a really interesting signing for
• 1:09:24
  one of those teams. It's like almost there and just
• 1:09:26
  needs it. It's like, you know, like the
• 1:09:29
  DeAndre Hopkins signing that, you know, referred to earlier, I
• 1:09:33
  think. And like, it's that type of big
• 1:09:36
  body, big name called the Patriots maker on an offence.
• 1:09:40
  Yeah, the Patriots need someone like Mike Evans.
• 1:09:42
  He's a veteran. He's got, he's a veteran that
• 1:09:44
  can still do it, maybe not to the level that he could do prior
• 1:09:47
  to his injury a couple of years ago.
• 1:09:49
  And he's not going to be at the level of like CD lamp, for
• 1:09:51
  instance, nowhere near that level.
• 1:09:52
  But he's he's experienced, so he can help the locker room.
• 1:09:56
  He's tall, he's big, he can throw it up in the air.
• 1:09:58
  He can catch the pole, the Patriots receivers, the small,
• 1:10:01
  the nimble, the fast. You we need someone else like
• 1:10:04
  him on the outside that him and digs together.
• 1:10:07
  Jesus, that'd be so good to see as we've got a slot on a wide
• 1:10:11
  out together will be really nice to see.
• 1:10:14
  But it's where does he go? And yeah, but like I said,
• 1:10:17
  there's some, there's some big names on there, some big, big
• 1:10:20
  names on there for me. Yeah.
• 1:10:24
  Will you? Let's move on, shall we?
• 1:10:27
  We've got a bit of a chat about the teams.
• 1:10:28
  We've got a bit of a chat about the players so far for this
• 1:10:31
  year. I think it's time to move on to
• 1:10:36
  all the balls. What do you reckon mate?
• 1:10:40
  Let's do it. Right, All other balls is here,
• 1:10:47
  right? Do you just want to tell the
• 1:10:48
  people what all the balls is? I shall.
• 1:10:53
  So all of the balls is the segment where we discuss other
• 1:10:58
  sports from around the globe. The irony this week is that
• 1:11:04
  we're actually gonna discuss the exact same spots that we
• 1:11:07
  discussed last week. And there's some significant
• 1:11:13
  happenings in the world of sports at the minute in terms of
• 1:11:16
  the Winter Olympics are happening and I'm a little bit
• 1:11:19
  low key obsessed with them at the minute for various reasons
• 1:11:22
  that we won't discuss. Research in college?
• 1:11:24
  Nodded his head in the background there.
• 1:11:28
  But also obviously it was the start this year of the rugby
• 1:11:31
  league season following on from the Challenge Cup that was
• 1:11:33
  discussed last week. So we'll touch on that as well.
• 1:11:37
  But Zach, shall we get into the wonderful, wonderful Winter
• 1:11:42
  Olympics? Yes, the wonderful Winter
• 1:11:45
  Olympics, finally here and Team GB.
• 1:11:48
  This is why he's so excited in it, Brad.
• 1:11:49
  Because Team GB have finally got gold medals.
• 1:11:53
  That's for sole reason. Finally got gold medals,
• 1:11:58
  Individual skeleton, mixed skeleton, skeleton and the team
• 1:12:02
  snowboard cross taking gold across all three of them.
• 1:12:07
  Now I saw something online and I don't know if this is true or
• 1:12:12
  not so I could be talking absolute balls right now, but
• 1:12:16
  it's not actually a skeleton track made of ice in the UK that
• 1:12:19
  people can that they can run tests on.
• 1:12:22
  It's made of concrete in I believe it seemed like Lee or
• 1:12:25
  somewhere. Again, could be could be major
• 1:12:28
  balls there, but the closest ones abroad somewhere and
• 1:12:33
  research college come in and save me clutch here.
• 1:12:34
  They only practise 2 to 3 hours a year on ice and they've gone.
• 1:12:40
  I'm bloody one of gold credit credit 2 golds, 2 golds like
• 1:12:45
  that is like I I admittedly, I haven't watched as much of the
• 1:12:50
  Olympics as I would have liked it.
• 1:12:51
  Normally I prefer the Winter Olympics to the normal like
• 1:12:55
  Summer Olympics and I do. There's just something about it
• 1:12:57
  I real like, but just this year, my schedule just it just hasn't
• 1:13:01
  aligned where I've watched a lot of it.
• 1:13:02
  I've just been trying to keep up where I can go from there.
• 1:13:07
  So I'm a bit behind on it, but when I saw that we've got some
• 1:13:12
  goals, it's good to see. It's good to see.
• 1:13:17
  I'm guessing you've been watching it though.
• 1:13:19
  Yeah, it's great. Like I saw, I saw Matt Weston, I
• 1:13:22
  think I'm pretty sure he was our first gold in the individual
• 1:13:26
  skeleton. And I saw that.
• 1:13:28
  I didn't watch it live, but I saw it that evening and it was
• 1:13:34
  just one of those runs where I mean, I know nothing about the
• 1:13:37
  skeleton. Like I know nothing.
• 1:13:39
  I'm also like slightly confused by once you've done your run and
• 1:13:42
  you're on the whatever they call it, the sledge, the sledge,
• 1:13:46
  whatever. Like what do you actually do
• 1:13:48
  after that point? Now, I'm sure there is some
• 1:13:50
  stuff like weight distribution and all that malarkey, but you
• 1:13:54
  could just you just saw from the get go the way he ran, the way
• 1:13:57
  he got on it and he was just like, it was just you just
• 1:14:00
  looked at it and you're like, this is good.
• 1:14:02
  This, this is this is a solid performance and like he took
• 1:14:07
  gold, he took gold. He's a former Taekwondo athlete,
• 1:14:13
  he's a former rugby union player and he took gold from Germany by
• 1:14:19
  making up a nought .3 second gap researcher.
• 1:14:23
  Carl's telling us if that's wrong, blame him.
• 1:14:25
  And it's just absolutely insane and the performance was unreal.
• 1:14:32
  But then he's like he's doubled it himself by going, you know
• 1:14:35
  what, I'll go on this mixed, this mixed gender one, and I'll
• 1:14:43
  take gold again on the mixed colour.
• 1:14:47
  Unreal. Yeah, unreal.
• 1:14:49
  There's some sports in the Olympics, whether it's summer or
• 1:14:52
  winter looking. I just think I want to did this
• 1:14:56
  get like this? Did this become a sport?
• 1:14:58
  But it's so exciting seeing, like you say, when you're when
• 1:15:00
  honestly going down. Obviously it's weight
• 1:15:02
  distribution, the, the Turley. Like I don't really insult
• 1:15:06
  people because it's must be a really hard sport to, to take
• 1:15:09
  part in. But once you're going down,
• 1:15:11
  you're going down at you and it's really fast.
• 1:15:13
  I think it's all about the aerodynamics and you start and
• 1:15:15
  everything. But you know, credit where
• 1:15:16
  credit's due puts Team GB up to 13 now with the three golds, no
• 1:15:22
  bronzes, no silvers yet, but three goes I believe as well.
• 1:15:25
  We've come forth like quite a few times while we've just been
• 1:15:28
  on that ball line of getting their medal.
• 1:15:29
  So credit where credit's due. We're we're at that point now
• 1:15:33
  13th on there. Norway still out in front with
• 1:15:36
  with 14 medals in total, 14 golds in total, so 31 medals.
• 1:15:43
  So they're going to take some catching up, but just as from a
• 1:15:46
  Winter Olympics side of things, from AGB side, getting medals is
• 1:15:51
  a big thing because we don't have that access to that real
• 1:15:55
  kind of environment, let's say. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's
• 1:16:00
  hard, isn't it? And there's I was looking at
• 1:16:02
  something earlier that the way the medal chart works in the
• 1:16:08
  Olympics, which I want to actually have a discussion with
• 1:16:10
  you about in a second. But you know where we're in 13th
• 1:16:15
  place, but we've only got 3 medals total and all three of
• 1:16:20
  those are gold. So like you say, we've had a few
• 1:16:22
  fourth places which has been got in to miss out on the medals.
• 1:16:24
  We've got no bronze, no silver, 3 golds.
• 1:16:27
  Obviously Matt taking two of those.
• 1:16:31
  So obviously nailing his solo run and then making up that gap
• 1:16:37
  from Tabby's run to take that gold for the mix.
• 1:16:41
  But then you've got Charlotte Banks and Hugh Nightingale who
• 1:16:44
  took, if I'm right, I'm sure I saw this from Callum earlier is
• 1:16:49
  the first gold medal for GB on snow, which is like mega all the
• 1:16:56
  better that it's snowboarding like, you know, love it.
• 1:17:02
  But for the fact that we as a country don't have those
• 1:17:05
  facilities. Like if you look at the top end
• 1:17:06
  of that chart, you've got Norway, you've got Italy, you've
• 1:17:09
  got US. All three of those obviously
• 1:17:12
  have access to that quite easily.
• 1:17:16
  Netherlands and Germany not so much.
• 1:17:19
  But right next door they do with Austrian 6, France, Sweden,
• 1:17:23
  Switzerland, you know, all of those that top sort of 789 teams
• 1:17:28
  of all the access and where they just, we're just then on the
• 1:17:31
  outside of that along with Australia, really with, I mean,
• 1:17:36
  Australia do have snowy mountains to be fair, but just
• 1:17:41
  outside that without the facilities.
• 1:17:42
  So to be there, to be competing at that level, like imagine
• 1:17:46
  running on concrete in the skeleton to then go, you know
• 1:17:49
  what, we'll do it on ice this time and we'll just smash it and
• 1:17:51
  hold out. Oh, you know what?
• 1:17:53
  I'll do it within an 8 again, just for laughs.
• 1:17:55
  It's just. It is, it is wild, yeah.
• 1:17:59
  It is wild to think and and it goes to show doesn't it like
• 1:18:04
  that anything can happen when it comes down to it and put you put
• 1:18:09
  your mind and solve to it. And I think it's that is it
• 1:18:12
  perception style things when they when they when the training
• 1:18:15
  on the concrete or whatever kind of sled it is, I'll slope it is
• 1:18:19
  at the training and actually before they go onto the ice,
• 1:18:21
  it's the visualising the ice. Then when you come onto the ice,
• 1:18:25
  it's not much of A shock to obviously these guys will have
• 1:18:28
  done it before. So they kind of know what it's
• 1:18:29
  like. But I don't know what the
• 1:18:31
  differences are on the tweets that I need to make, but to go
• 1:18:33
  and practise like 2 to 3 hours a week a year.
• 1:18:36
  Sorry on ice to then go smash out of gold is phenomenal like
• 1:18:43
  that is textbook. We're coming here to do a job
• 1:18:46
  and we'd build we believe it in ourselves, like we're absolutely
• 1:18:49
  believing in ourselves for us to go out there and and do it.
• 1:18:52
  And it's that belief that can go and and and help you out on
• 1:18:56
  that. DC is getting involved medals.
• 1:19:02
  It's so hard to tell, like it's it's unbelievably difficult to
• 1:19:07
  get a gold like and I know that's that's obvious to say,
• 1:19:12
  isn't it? But there's 4th place.
• 1:19:16
  We've been so close to a good few bronzers and I just don't
• 1:19:22
  think, I don't know, I think we'll struggle.
• 1:19:24
  I can't see us continuing to push.
• 1:19:27
  I can't. That skeleton was like a Oh my
• 1:19:30
  God moment. And then the snowboarding
• 1:19:33
  obviously wasn't necessarily expected as far as I'm aware.
• 1:19:36
  I don't, I love watching the Winter Olympics.
• 1:19:39
  I don't pretend I can't speak. I don't pretend to be like fully
• 1:19:44
  in tune and invested in all the lead up to it.
• 1:19:47
  But I think when you're competing with those nations
• 1:19:52
  that have got access to the facilities that they do, then
• 1:19:56
  you're always going to struggle to a point.
• 1:19:58
  Are you like, we're definitely more of a Summer Olympics
• 1:20:00
  nation. But I think it's been good.
• 1:20:05
  It's been definitely interesting.
• 1:20:08
  I know Callum was digging up some interesting facts earlier
• 1:20:11
  today, wasn't it? Dirty little dog picking up on
• 1:20:15
  the facts that the Olympic villages run out of condoms.
• 1:20:19
  Oh really? Oh wonder I found that out.
• 1:20:21
  Yeah, Callum was very yeah, he was very invested in that story.
• 1:20:24
  Was Callum researcher Cal So. But I mean, I get it.
• 1:20:29
  I get it. You know, you've got to think
• 1:20:31
  like these are top athletes who are like building up all this
• 1:20:35
  testosterone and you know, you hear about stuff, don't you, in
• 1:20:39
  in all sports about not doing things before the big game and
• 1:20:42
  stuff like that. So, you know, how long have they
• 1:20:45
  not been doing things? And then you're in this village
• 1:20:47
  with, you know, bang, average looking men and women and it's.
• 1:20:53
  Yeah, So what is one of those with this talk, with this
• 1:20:56
  talking Olympics now? And we're going to reorder
• 1:20:59
  something a little bit here, but if you don't mind, we're going
• 1:21:01
  to we're going to just put the next all the ball story on hold
• 1:21:04
  for a second because Carl with research Carl has actually made
• 1:21:08
  us a little bit of a a game, let's just say.
• 1:21:11
  So we have the, the defeat that we've run before, you know the,
• 1:21:13
  the stats that sound fake where research Carl put 3 stats out
• 1:21:17
  that all sound fake and one of them is real.
• 1:21:20
  Well, research called this week has done something a little bit
• 1:21:23
  different for us based around the Olympics.
• 1:21:26
  So we're going to do sports that sound fake.
• 1:21:31
  Now, these are winter Olympic sports or sport, right?
• 1:21:36
  There's three spots on the screen and I'm going to read
• 1:21:39
  them out in just a second. And we have to guess which is
• 1:21:42
  the real or was the real winter Olympic sport.
• 1:21:46
  So guess the real winter Olympic sport.
• 1:21:48
  And the three options are dog sledding, snowball fighting, and
• 1:21:52
  reindeer racing. So this was, as far as I'm
• 1:21:56
  aware, research guy can correct me if I'm wrong here.
• 1:21:58
  This was a Olympic sport, no longer an Olympic sport.
• 1:22:01
  I don't know when it stopped, but one of these 3 was an
• 1:22:06
  Olympic sport. There's one obvious one to me.
• 1:22:09
  I don't think it's that. Yeah, I think, I'm guessing
• 1:22:14
  you're thinking dog sledding. Yes, I don't think it's that
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  you. Think of the you think of the
• 1:22:20
  Huskies and mushy and all that monarchy but like I just can't
• 1:22:25
  fathom out a snowball fight Sounds just ridiculous like
• 1:22:29
  unless you like adjudicating it like dodgeball or something.
• 1:22:32
  That's it. Like reindeer racing is just
• 1:22:38
  stupid. That's sure.
• 1:22:40
  That's not. But so for me, reindeer racing
• 1:22:44
  could be like chariot racing. You know, they had that.
• 1:22:47
  The chariot racing is big in France, right?
• 1:22:48
  Where they'll be sat on like the little little cart thing back at
• 1:22:52
  horses, right? France.
• 1:22:54
  Yeah, it's big in France's chariot racing.
• 1:22:56
  Like it's like you're like Speedway circuits in the UK and
• 1:22:59
  the motorbikes, just like the ovals chariot race is big in
• 1:23:02
  France where they just sit on like the like this like horse
• 1:23:05
  racing. Not Greece.
• 1:23:08
  No, no, in France, Like I don't condone gambling, but when I've
• 1:23:13
  had where I've been looking on Sky Bet for something to do when
• 1:23:17
  I've got like $0.03 in my camera.
• 1:23:18
  Get on this please. Please get on this.
• 1:23:20
  This sounds ludicrous. Yeah, it is.
• 1:23:24
  Chariot racing is big in France, right?
• 1:23:26
  But anyway I. Triumph on the roundabout in
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  Paris. It's usually it's usually like
• 1:23:33
  at all weather like like a sandy kind of thing and the car the
• 1:23:37
  car Sprint either the car gallop jet racing in France is
• 1:23:43
  primarily features a high octane live.
• 1:23:45
  He's just played. Just put a little Google there
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  for us. But yeah, sorry, it's it's
• 1:23:50
  broke, I mean. I would have just thought like
• 1:23:52
  Greece or like Italy, like Rome and stuff like that.
• 1:23:56
  Like, Oh my. That's so.
• 1:23:59
  Stupid. But that's what for me, what
• 1:24:02
  could have been another red, the reindeer racing side of things.
• 1:24:05
  But I actually think the dodgeball you nailed on the head
• 1:24:09
  there for me, snowball fighting dodgeball could be the one, you
• 1:24:14
  know? I think I'm going to go, I'm
• 1:24:16
  just going to go with the obvious because why wouldn't it
• 1:24:19
  be dog sledding? Why it's got to be dog sledding,
• 1:24:24
  Cal, can you just start typing that answer in the real in the
• 1:24:28
  in the? So you're going dog sledding?
• 1:24:31
  I'm going snowball fighting researcher Cal.
• 1:24:34
  What is the answer? And the answer is just take
• 1:24:39
  typing. It's a long one.
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  Great for an audio here Cal just the answer would be great.
• 1:24:45
  Yeah, it is dog sledding. It was in the 1932 Games.
• 1:24:51
  I thought it was just too obvious, but hey, look, well
• 1:24:54
  done. So the real Olympic sport there
• 1:24:56
  was the dog sledding. So there are three days.
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  So there we go We'll keep you up to date with the Olympics as and
• 1:25:04
  when we can do when we're when we're around, hopefully.
• 1:25:07
  Sure, I'll try and watch some more so I can sound a bit more
• 1:25:10
  knowledgeable when it comes down to it, but we'll we'll keep your
• 1:25:13
  data without that. Now moving on to star #2 which
• 1:25:18
  is our all the balls #2 but I think, but I want to throw a bit
• 1:25:22
  of a suggestion because the season started again and we're
• 1:25:25
  going to be talking rugby league a little bit more because we're
• 1:25:27
  both fans of it. I think we make it its own
• 1:25:30
  little section. I think for those that know, I
• 1:25:34
  think we can't speak. I think the rugby league
• 1:25:38
  section, the rugby league section is here and and for
• 1:25:42
  sports fans in the UK, especially the north of England,
• 1:25:45
  rugby league is in as blood. If you don't know what rugby
• 1:25:48
  league is and you've never, never seen it, I, I beg you go
• 1:25:52
  watch it because it's a phenomenal, absolutely great
• 1:25:55
  sport. We spoke about it last week, but
• 1:25:57
  the weekend this weekend just gone kicked off the season and
• 1:26:01
  let me tell you now there was some shocking results.
• 1:26:05
  And by shocking, I mean good shocking results this weekend
• 1:26:10
  when it came down to the scores and the big, big one for me was
• 1:26:16
  the York Hulke R score, the drop goal to win it.
• 1:26:20
  Paul McShane get a man at match. Are we are we back in like 2021
• 1:26:25
  or whatever? It was like when we were at cast
• 1:26:28
  like, wow, what a game. That what I in fact, I made the,
• 1:26:33
  I turned it off when it was like, well, it's 16-6 or
• 1:26:36
  something with, with 20 minutes to go.
• 1:26:38
  And I was like, OK, I've won this.
• 1:26:41
  I won it off for time being. And then I, I looked and I
• 1:26:45
  opened my flash cards up on my phone and it was 18 and I'm
• 1:26:48
  like, Nah, so I'm running back and I turned it back on TV.
• 1:26:51
  What an ending. What a game as well.
• 1:26:55
  But it was, yeah, I mean, it was brilliant.
• 1:26:57
  Like I think it's, it's interesting because obviously
• 1:27:01
  Paul McShane was a Castleford for a good while.
• 1:27:04
  So listeners and and people who who know us will know a
• 1:27:07
  Castleford fans. But like, it's do you think when
• 1:27:14
  he went to York, he ever thought it'd be them playing in Super
• 1:27:17
  League again? And then he's in Super League
• 1:27:20
  winning the game, you know, man of the match against the Super
• 1:27:24
  League champions Hall KR, who were about to play in Las Vegas
• 1:27:27
  in the the World Club Challenge game.
• 1:27:29
  And I thought, you know what, I just thought the weekend as a
• 1:27:32
  whole was actually like a really good public, sort of like
• 1:27:39
  showing of what rugby league is. So we've spoke about it last
• 1:27:43
  week about how much of an electric sport it can be.
• 1:27:45
  But when you look at the scores, there's no game that was more
• 1:27:51
  than I think 16 points difference I think was the
• 1:27:54
  biggest difference. I'm just looking and that was
• 1:27:58
  between Catalans and Huddersfield, who Huddersfield
• 1:28:00
  were down in the doldrums last year outside of Salford.
• 1:28:04
  But you had some really competitive games like York
• 1:28:08
  beating Hulke Hour was huge, probably obviously the hugest
• 1:28:10
  story of the weekend. But not only that, you also had
• 1:28:13
  to lose who are new in the in the the league beating Wakefield
• 1:28:18
  and you didn't have Bradford getting the victory, but they
• 1:28:24
  did come close to seven points in it.
• 1:28:26
  You know, which for the fact that the seven points shows that
• 1:28:30
  Hull FC felt concerned about it. So if you don't know rugby
• 1:28:34
  league, it's it's all even numbers.
• 1:28:36
  Basically it's four points or two points for whatever.
• 1:28:39
  You know, your tries and your kicks.
• 1:28:41
  It's a drop goal. It's one point.
• 1:28:42
  So if you've got an odd number in there, you know, someone's
• 1:28:44
  put a drop goal over for some strange reason because they were
• 1:28:47
  worried and like, you know, 3 brand new teams in Super League,
• 1:28:51
  two of the three winning, the other team coming close to
• 1:28:54
  giving him a gate, you know, getting that victory.
• 1:28:58
  I think it's, it's just a really good, a really good showing for
• 1:29:02
  rugby league and what the sport is.
• 1:29:04
  It's really exciting. I think you're best it could
• 1:29:07
  have been in terms of like exciting games and the scores
• 1:29:10
  themselves were all quite close. And I mean the big the biggest
• 1:29:13
  shock for me were the warrant in Saint Alan's score being 2414.
• 1:29:16
  The the difference in that more than anything else.
• 1:29:18
  I thought that would be more of a tighter game, more of 14, all
• 1:29:21
  kind of game. Well, maybe 1514 with the drop
• 1:29:23
  goal. Now I went to the cast game at
• 1:29:25
  the weekend I were looking to go and I watched the game live as
• 1:29:30
  such and it were a 2616 game from a spectator watching.
• 1:29:35
  Obviously I'm a biassed cast fan and I always will be in I
• 1:29:39
  believe like an amber. But they play that first half
• 1:29:42
  they played unreal. It felt like we had so many
• 1:29:45
  defensive stops within our own half, within our own quarter at
• 1:29:48
  one point. And we we did we did the typical
• 1:29:52
  casting, which better sells. At one point we were just doing
• 1:29:54
  stupid mistakes that gave the wig and the ball back.
• 1:29:56
  And there's only so many times in rugby league, you know, when
• 1:29:59
  I was predominantly an American football podcast, but every
• 1:30:03
  league you don't have an offence and a defence that coming off
• 1:30:05
  the field. You have one team that's on the
• 1:30:06
  field. And when you're defending,
• 1:30:09
  defending, defending, defending, defending, defending against
• 1:30:11
  some of these units that are the the forwards, for instance, that
• 1:30:15
  are running, that are running that ball, running that, but it
• 1:30:17
  takes it out of you. So then your offensive drives,
• 1:30:19
  you near, you're attacking sets, you've got no, you've got no gas
• 1:30:23
  in the tank to have these exciting plays.
• 1:30:25
  So it would just one-dimensional, here's the ball
• 1:30:28
  inside ball, we've run it forward, inside ball and we just
• 1:30:30
  couldn't get anything going. But we saw a lot of, I saw a lot
• 1:30:34
  of promise in that game. I really did.
• 1:30:38
  I saw a lot of promise in that game you had.
• 1:30:41
  A brand new team, literally a brand new team.
• 1:30:45
  You know, almost the entire starting line that in starting
• 1:30:48
  line up, sorry, was brand new. There's a few players in there
• 1:30:52
  that have been with us before and but all of them together
• 1:30:58
  playing was really promising. First start, I think it was over
• 1:31:03
  10 minutes. They defended their 20 and 10
• 1:31:08
  metre line and and they were outstanding that first half and
• 1:31:12
  it shows organisation. I'm really excited as a cast fan
• 1:31:15
  for this season. Ryan Carl looks solid coach like
• 1:31:18
  you've said, a lot of the media stuff, he looks solid and to go
• 1:31:21
  against Wigan who were top 123 team year on year and a big
• 1:31:27
  team, you know a hard hitting team, they they did themselves
• 1:31:32
  proud last year. That would have been a 60 plus
• 1:31:35
  something score. But it's, it's not all sunshine
• 1:31:39
  rainbows, mate. I mean, we lost, which is not
• 1:31:41
  great, but we also took a major, major loss in terms of a player
• 1:31:46
  personnel on that day as well. Blake Taffy, I believe his
• 1:31:49
  surname is pronounced or Taff as it has been pronounced by the
• 1:31:54
  the compare the announced, shall I say, took a ACL injury, which
• 1:31:59
  puts him out for the rest of the year.
• 1:32:01
  And I was there. I watched the game live and me
• 1:32:04
  and Brad were speaking prior to the podcast starting and I
• 1:32:06
  didn't even see it happen live. And the guy continued to play
• 1:32:10
  throughout the entire throughout the rest of the game.
• 1:32:13
  Sorry of a but now being ruled out for the rest of the season
• 1:32:17
  with an ACLT And he's one of our new recruits, one of our more
• 1:32:20
  exciting new recruits as well. A little bit good on that.
• 1:32:24
  I'm not going to lie to you. It's a bit of a kicking teeth
• 1:32:27
  isn't it really, from a calf point of view?
• 1:32:29
  It's a big loss. I was I was texting another
• 1:32:31
  friend who wasn't at the game. So we were texting quite a bit
• 1:32:36
  watching it on TV and I was saying, you know, our 167 spine
• 1:32:41
  looks really solid. Say it was the first time the
• 1:32:43
  three of them have played together.
• 1:32:44
  He searched you full back, you half back in your scrum half.
• 1:32:47
  So they're basically the guys for those that don't follow
• 1:32:49
  sport that that control the team really and dictate as a as a
• 1:32:56
  threesome. They're almost like the
• 1:32:57
  quarterback, but of the team. They dictate how what's
• 1:33:00
  happening. They link up and they set the
• 1:33:02
  players up and stuff like that. Obviously you won you full back
• 1:33:05
  controls, the defensive side of things.
• 1:33:09
  And I thought they looked really, really promising for the
• 1:33:11
  first game. I was I was really excited.
• 1:33:13
  And now 1/3 of that spine's gone.
• 1:33:15
  So it'd be interesting to see what happens here.
• 1:33:19
  You know, there's other peak, other players come through but.
• 1:33:23
  Rooney, I think Rooney will step up and take that, take that slot
• 1:33:26
  and hopefully progress there, but only time will tell them.
• 1:33:30
  And like I say, going forward, I think we're going to focus a
• 1:33:32
  little bit more on the rugby league side of things week in,
• 1:33:34
  week out. Like that is probably not as in
• 1:33:36
  depth as what we do with the NFL.
• 1:33:37
  But you guys let us know what you want to hear as well.
• 1:33:39
  By the way, we get into the offseason with the NFL now.
• 1:33:42
  What do you want to hear when it comes down to the pods
• 1:33:44
  themselves? Is there anything in particular
• 1:33:45
  you want us to give really average takes on?
• 1:33:48
  Let us know in the comments below.
• 1:33:49
  Please feel free to do so. But yeah, that's a little touch
• 1:33:53
  upon the opening weekend for the rugby league and I must admit
• 1:33:57
  I'm excited for this week. Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
• 1:33:59
  Sunday, all for the game. So I'm excited to go from there.
• 1:34:03
  Now Brad, before we wrap up, we have our most consistent feature
• 1:34:09
  on the pod and that is a Carl's Conundrum.
• 1:34:13
  OK, so Carl's conundrum last week was a tough one, and I've
• 1:34:19
  got a little bone to pick because this slide that is now
• 1:34:22
  appearing on the screen is different to the one that I read
• 1:34:26
  out last week. Let's see if we can spot the
• 1:34:29
  difference here. Which four players are tied?
• 1:34:32
  I'll repeat that. Which four players are tied?
• 1:34:35
  How many most signing? Which four players are tied for
• 1:34:40
  the for the most sacks in a single Super Bowl game?
• 1:34:44
  Now, if I'm correct, the question wasn't which far
• 1:34:47
  players, Brad, It wasn't. Wasn't Mr Researcher Carl
• 1:34:53
  correct? Yeah.
• 1:34:56
  Oh, yeah, We do the pod again. This is the third week on the
• 1:35:01
  bounces. We're going to start calling him
• 1:35:03
  Apprentice Carl. I think he's going to be called
• 1:35:06
  Apprentice Carl. Jeez, killing us, Carl.
• 1:35:09
  You're killing us. Anyway.
• 1:35:10
  Which four players are tied for the most sacked in the Super
• 1:35:13
  Bowl season? Actually in a Super Bowl, single
• 1:35:16
  Super Bowl, and it was Reggie White, Darnell Docket, Coney
• 1:35:20
  Ely, and Grady Janet. So if you got them, well done.
• 1:35:24
  If you took part, thank you very much.
• 1:35:26
  And we're going to get into the next week's, next week's Carl's
• 1:35:30
  Conundrum. And please feel free to take
• 1:35:32
  part in this. You can take part by heading
• 1:35:34
  over to any of our socials at ABNF Pod, wherever you go on
• 1:35:39
  your social media. I got it right this time.
• 1:35:42
  And as well, if you're listening to this on YouTube or Spotify
• 1:35:45
  with the video, you can offer a comment there and let us know
• 1:35:47
  what you think, right? Carl's Conundrum for next week
• 1:35:52
  In terms of average value, which NFL player signed the biggest
• 1:35:57
  free agent contract in NFL history?
• 1:36:01
  So in terms of average, sorry. In terms of average annual
• 1:36:04
  value? So in terms of average annual
• 1:36:08
  value, which NFL player signed the biggest free agent contract
• 1:36:13
  in the NFL history? I like a bunch of doc reading
• 1:36:18
  that out. I ain't got a clue.
• 1:36:20
  Yeah, you did. You did, babe.
• 1:36:21
  But it's. All good.
• 1:36:22
  Yeah, there's a lot of words. There's a lot of words there.
• 1:36:26
  So anyway, guys, feel free to take part in that.
• 1:36:28
  Let us know what you think with it, and that'd be fantastic to
• 1:36:31
  do So wow, it's been a long one. I'm not going to lie.
• 1:36:34
  If you're still here. Thank you by the way.
• 1:36:37
  Thank you. We're going to wrap up now.
• 1:36:40
  So if you're if you're listening, go watch it.
• 1:36:43
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• 1:36:45
  Wherever you're listening, wherever you're watching, like
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  subscribe, follow, comment, share, tell your friends and get
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  involved. Brad, anything from you?
• 1:36:54
  No, it's been a pleasure. I'm looking forward to the off
• 1:36:56
  season. It'll be an interesting, we've
• 1:36:58
  got some exciting things planned.
• 1:36:59
  So stick around and and thank you as ever for tuning in and
• 1:37:03
  let us know what you think. Perfect.
• 1:37:07
  Thank you very much. Good night.
• 1:37:08
  God bless and we'll see you later.
• 1:37:32
  Music.