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- 0:00All right guys, this is the next video up whether you like it or
- 0:02not I'm excited for wow forever. I saw some people complaining
- 0:08about this video from this guy Nixium talks not that I'm
- 0:13looking at it. He's 113 or he has 13,000
- 0:15subscribers with oh, I thought his views were higher.
- 0:19Oh it must be just like the wow the wow boost.
- 0:22I guess it's just like no, I don't know he's getting a lot of
- 0:24views for only 13,000 subscribers that's a little
- 0:26surprising, but I guess he makes longer form content.
- 0:28I don't know. It doesn't matter.
- 0:29I was just looking at that now I got distracted.
- 0:31Either way, I'm excited for it. I want to take a look at it.
- 0:34People were complaining that he had like a little bit of an anti
- 0:36woke take about the trailer. So I want to take a look at it.
- 0:40I might even agree with him on self stuff.
- 0:41I don't know. But it's called again, it's Nix
- 0:43Nixium talks or something. Nixium, I think yeah, you've got
- 0:46to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me
- 0:48right now. That's what I would say sounds
- 0:50so funny. That guy's telling me funny.
- 0:53Anyway, let's get let's just start charting.
- 0:55Watch. Whoa, a bear.
- 0:59That's the old school trailer. Who watched that and was like oh
- 1:04bro, Nah man flowers. Dude, dude.
- 1:10You know, he's, he's got a, a gentle side.
- 1:13Wow. I want to begin this video by
- 1:16saying that I'm recording it at the end of BlizzCon day one and
- 1:20if you're somebody that used. Chad, should I start going to
- 1:23BlizzCon? My tax person says I could write
- 1:25off some parts of trips if they're work trip.
- 1:28Oh, nyxium. Is his main channel.
- 1:31Oh that makes sense. That's why his channel is called
- 1:33the Nyxium talks 'cause he has a main channel called Nyxium,
- 1:38right? Does that make sense to me?
- 1:40OK. For Warcraft forever and you saw
- 1:43what was coming out and you're really hyped about it and you're
- 1:46really excited and you're full of.
- 1:47Joy. I'm pretty excited.
- 1:48Don't watch this video any further.
- 1:50Don't. Wait, does he have like an
- 1:51actual channel? I'm not seeing anything other
- 1:53than, oh, I have seen it. But if you're oh, yeah, that
- 1:55makes more sense. That makes more sense.
- 1:56Yeah. He has like a full channel.
- 1:58Looks like he makes other stuff. OK, cool.
- 2:04Buddy, that you watched all this and you sat there and thought,
- 2:08you know, something seems off, something seems wrong or maybe
- 2:11you felt a little disappointed by several things or many
- 2:15things. Maybe this video is for you
- 2:18because. Maybe I I do so this is the
- 2:20thing as I did post a video on I have a like on another channel.
- 2:23Oh guys, I have another channel, Papa Gut Bytes, where like I'll
- 2:25post like it's usually, you know, longer clips, we'll call
- 2:29them from the main segments to get like a taste of it to see if
- 2:31you want to watch the whole thing.
- 2:33I reacted to the trailer. I kind of just put that up on
- 2:35that Channel, the Papa Gut Bytes channel where I talked about the
- 2:38trailer. I did a live reacting to it.
- 2:44I'll just show you the channel here.
- 2:46Right. So it's down here somewhere.
- 2:49Yeah, it's well forever going to even be worth playing.
- 2:51It looks like it is. And I like, yeah, I had a little
- 2:54bit of an issue with the trailer too.
- 2:56I'm not going to lie. I felt like it was a little too
- 2:59girly. This isn't like a super anti
- 3:01woke thing. It's just that like, I'm like
- 3:05I'm I'm over it. It's not a big deal.
- 3:06I'm not going to not play the game.
- 3:07I'm excited for the game. My thing is, is that I'm looking
- 3:14forward to Classic forever because Classic Forever looks
- 3:18like it might finally do the right Classic Plus type of
- 3:21experience, which was try to capture the feeling that you had
- 3:24or that I had and we had playing Classic when we were that age
- 3:31and bring it into now and to capture that feeling.
- 3:33You can't present the same exact game, right When I was when I
- 3:38was young, my first boobs that I saw, you know, was great.
- 3:43I loved it. You know, if I seeing a pair of
- 3:45boobs now that I'm 36, it's not going to do as much for me.
- 3:49So I would need to like touch the boob or something, you know
- 3:51what I mean? To be able to have a similar
- 3:53feeling. And that's what classic is like,
- 3:55you know what I'm saying? So it's like I, I love the
- 3:56original God of War games. I love them because there was
- 3:59like an, you know, Kratos is basically like an angsty asshole
- 4:01killing people. And he was like full of rage.
- 4:03I was like a little 15 year old full of rage.
- 4:05Now I'm an adult. We're going to be a father soon.
- 4:07I like the new Kratos. He's like a guy with anger
- 4:09problems that's learning to like regulate his emotions and be a
- 4:11better or more productive man. So that's what I want classic
- 4:14Plus I wanted to have better features.
- 4:16I want there to be some quality of life things.
- 4:18I want there to be more questioning.
- 4:19I want all the classes and specs to be viable, right?
- 4:22I want a better like levelling process that you don't have to
- 4:25like super coordinate to maximize your XP gains because
- 4:27they didn't add enough quests into the game and you have to
- 4:30you have to spam run dungeons and like, I don't want to have
- 4:33to do that, right. But like back then the
- 4:36experience of wow, I were playing Final Fantasy 11.
- 4:39That game was a mega grind. So compared to Final Fantasy 11,
- 4:43classic wow was amazing, right. So now we need something that's
- 4:47like compared to classic wow, This new game has quality of
- 4:50life features and it seems like it's going to be that.
- 4:52And that all of that in saying is that the trailer didn't give
- 4:57me the same feeling that the game that I want the game to
- 5:00give me, which seems like it will give me, which is like,
- 5:02hey, the original World of Warcraft trailer is kind of this
- 5:06like really kind of cool experience where it's like, I
- 5:09think this is masculine. It's meaty.
- 5:12It's pretty like, you know, there's machismo in it.
- 5:14And then the new trailer is like, there's fucking like
- 5:16flowers and shit. And I was like, this doesn't
- 5:18match the same tone in an updated way.
- 5:20And again, it's not a game breaking thing, but like here's
- 5:22like kind of like the vibe of the of the original trailer, you
- 5:25know, it's like, yeah, It's like, oh, it's cool.
- 5:37And then like you're going to go on to like, everybody's like
- 5:39being cool and turn into a cat and stuff and like it's just
- 5:43cool. This one, you know, kind of
- 5:45starts off with a little bit of the same flow and then it kind
- 5:49of morphs. The music isn't quite there.
- 5:53And then and then there's a wisp and then your bears running
- 5:56around and he's playing in the sand and he's being a little
- 5:58these, you know, it's a little bit it's a little feminine, I
- 6:02guess, but it looks cool. Like again, I'm not like like
- 6:06this is cool, you know, and again, I get it.
- 6:08They they probably want to attract more of a female
- 6:09audience, which is a good idea. Girls play games now.
- 6:13And I think that like I'm already captured.
- 6:14I'm going to play this game. Even if this trailer looked like
- 6:16somebody took a hot shit all over a hot dog, I'm going to eat
- 6:18it anyway. So I get it.
- 6:20I'm just saying like I had like a similar like feeling to that.
- 6:23I I get it and rant. After the World of Warcraft
- 6:27Forever announcements were over, it's very clear that a lot of
- 6:30other people are very upset too. And are they?
- 6:34I'm going to be explaining as to why.
- 6:36So first and foremost, let's just talk about Classic Plus for
- 6:41a moment. Classic Plus is something that
- 6:43even Blizzard themselves talked about it.
- 6:46You can't really do it right, you know, Classic.
- 6:49Plus it's a really subjective thing.
- 6:51Some people like the idea of transmog being in classic, some
- 6:56people don't. Some people.
- 6:57I think it's a good I, I don't like transmog.
- 6:59I think it's a good idea to edit 'cause it I, it doesn't matter.
- 7:01I don't hate it. I think trans transmog doesn't
- 7:04impact the way that the game plays.
- 7:06I'm going to end. I can.
- 7:07I'm just going to turn it off and I'm going to make sure that
- 7:09people I play with, especially P, like I'm going to turn off
- 7:11her transmog and she's going to get upset because she's going to
- 7:14look terrible. But I like that.
- 7:15But yeah, I think it's a perfectly fine option.
- 7:17But like the idea of 10 and 20 man raids in classic wow.
- 7:21I don't think it's far enough. I think classic wow should have
- 7:23flex raids for 10 plus again, I the 40 man raids were really
- 7:27cool and epic back in the day. We're all adults now.
- 7:30This game is is scheme is for like adults now.
- 7:32I don't have the I don't want to sit down.
- 7:34There are things about the game that need to be removed.
- 7:38Waiting time to either like going through insane loops,
- 7:43hoops, jumping through insane hoops to be able to put together
- 7:45a 40 man raid is not something that I want to waste time on.
- 7:48If I have 3 hours to raid tonight, I don't want to spend
- 7:50an hour and a half of it trying to collect 40 different people.
- 7:53Whether it's like spending time almost like it's a job having
- 7:56like putting having a Guild manager and like having Guild
- 7:59officers to be able to teach you how to play your your, your
- 8:01class and your spec and every single boss and all these
- 8:05different things. I don't want to do it or
- 8:06pugging, that's not fun to me. I'd rather and if I have 13
- 8:11fucking friends, if there are only 13 of us, I don't want to
- 8:14have to go find 7 or cut three. I think that they're not going
- 8:17far enough with this, frankly. All right.
- 8:20The 40 man raids did not make classic Wow.
- 8:22What made classic Wow was the immersion was that like either
- 8:24classes had their more more class identity was that you
- 8:27couldn't just do whatever you want whenever you wanted to do
- 8:30it right, Like you now you can do dungeon Finder.
- 8:34You don't have to explore the world.
- 8:35You don't have to go anywhere. You don't have to experience
- 8:37like an actual world. You're just like, oh, I want to
- 8:38do this. OK, it's on cure for
- 8:40battleground. It's on.
- 8:41You know, it's nice to have to be able to explore the world a
- 8:43little bit. You know, those are the things
- 8:44that matter. Sitting together and like trying
- 8:47to create a a 40 man raid for an hour and a half is not part of
- 8:51it is not part of the experience that I ever valued.
- 8:53And like looking at it now, I don't think that people will
- 8:55necessarily value it either. So I think that they should go
- 8:58even farther with this, to be absolutely honest with you.
- 9:01Other people, they really prefer the forty man versions because
- 9:04it's bigger and epic. And they, they, they say that,
- 9:06but they're not, it's, it's like negligible.
- 9:08They might say that, but it's it's not.
- 9:10They don't care enough, not. Everybody has a different idea
- 9:13of what they would want Classic Plus to be, and so there's
- 9:17really no way to do Classic Plus right.
- 9:21But there most certainly is a way to do it wrong.
- 9:25And somehow Blizzard Entertainment, with World of
- 9:29Warcraft forever, they did some things right, but they did a lot
- 9:35of things. Wrong.
- 9:36I'd love to hear that. I so far, other than the trailer
- 9:40being a little cringe I guess it looks pretty good to me for
- 9:43everything I'm seeing. First thing to say is that many
- 9:47World of Warcraft players that are fans of Classic Wow, they
- 9:52for whatever reason, do not like the modern game they don't like.
- 9:56The modern game is just like too Coco melon.
- 9:57It's just it gives it's you you again.
- 10:00And I'm going to reiterate this, and I think that it's hard to
- 10:02articulate why people like classic wow, but it's because
- 10:05classic Wow brings you down to its its pacing, whereas modern
- 10:08wow lets you take the pacing up to whatever degree you would
- 10:10want to. It's too over stimulating and
- 10:12it's frustrating and it's too over stimulating in a lot of
- 10:14different ways. But like classic Wow puts you in
- 10:17this like situation where like you log on and you go to play
- 10:20and you cannot go faster than the game will let you and it
- 10:23actually calms you down and it becomes such a soothing, fun
- 10:26experience. Sometimes it takes like 1/2 hour
- 10:27to get there. That's the positive of it.
- 10:29Whereas retail you just log in and you're boom, boom, boom,
- 10:32boom, boom. I'm going to get on my flying
- 10:34mounts. I'm where I need to be.
- 10:35I'm going to go do this. I'm going to go queue for a
- 10:36dungeon. I'm going to go view for this.
- 10:37I'm going to do this. And then when you're playing the
- 10:39game and like, I used to mythic raid, like I'm not like at a
- 10:42high level, but I can, I can, I'm capable of mythic rating.
- 10:46You have to hit so many fucking buttons.
- 10:47I don't want to do it anymore. I'm 36, my fingers hurt.
- 10:49I'm not even kidding. I, I fucking carpal tunnel.
- 10:51I, I don't, I don't like, only when I play Wow, I don't want to
- 10:54do it. I don't want 75 fucking
- 10:56abilities that I have to, you know, hit at key times.
- 10:58I want like 7 abilities that I have to hit, hit at the right
- 11:00times, you know what I mean? Like, I just don't want to do
- 11:02it. Doesn't matter if I can, I don't
- 11:03need to maximize my fucking potential, you know what I mean?
- 11:06Like, you know, just 'cause I can eat 7000 calories in a
- 11:09sitting doesn't mean I should every day.
- 11:10You know what I'm mean? That's what it is.
- 11:13So that's like a big part of what people are chasing.
- 11:16It's like the it's a better pacing for the game.
- 11:19Like the tone of it. They don't like the fact that
- 11:23the war has been taken out of Warcraft.
- 11:26Even Holly herself went on stage at BlizzCon and professed that
- 11:30Blizzard was trying to put the war back in Warcraft.
- 11:34So even Blizzard has hurt our. Critical.
- 11:37Also, it's kind of weird that you're the main character in the
- 11:38game. I would like to get rid of that
- 11:40as well. It's fun when you're
- 11:41experiencing the world instead of like you being the main
- 11:43character of the world. You know the.
- 11:44Systems of hey, where is the war in your game?
- 11:48Where is the war? The modern game play is full of
- 11:51these stories of people coming together, looking past their
- 11:55differences, whether it's the uniting of the elves or the
- 11:59Imani trolls and the Cinderai, looking past 7000 years of war,
- 12:04potentially as the story of midnight continues.
- 12:07We can pull a. I just don't like that they seem
- 12:09to have neutered the Lich game. That seems kind of stupid to me.
- 12:11Number of examples from individual quests or major
- 12:14storylines from the past few expansions of just how World of
- 12:17Warcraft is not a game about war and conflict and drawing lines
- 12:22in the sand and fighting over those lines.
- 12:25It's a game about destroying barriers and.
- 12:27I guess I don't. I mean like, maybe this is just
- 12:29an ignorant statement. I don't think that many people
- 12:31care about the storyline. Well, they do, I do.
- 12:35That does piss me off. I just said it before, but I
- 12:36feel like that's not like the main contender.
- 12:38But maybe I'm wrong. There probably are a lot of like
- 12:40like people who like this story a lot or don't like it.
- 12:42Coming together now and many classic wild players do not like
- 12:46that. They prefer the old version of
- 12:49World of Warcraft where these stories can exist like Tyrion
- 12:53Forge Ring and E Trig and whatnot.
- 12:55But they're very few. They're very far between.
- 12:57Because ultimately, at the end of the day, you can't have a
- 13:00World of Warcraft if war and conflict and violence isn't the
- 13:05beating heart of the game. And Blizzard themselves, you
- 13:07know, speaking through Holly, they seem to hear that feedback.
- 13:11But then they show us this. This is the World of Warcraft
- 13:16forever cinematic. And I'm going to be completely
- 13:18honest, in my opinion, this is the worst cinematic that
- 13:21Blizzard has ever produced that I have ever.
- 13:23I don't think it's that bad for. Watched because it is so to what
- 13:28the classic community would actually want out of World of
- 13:32Warcraft out of. AII don't think that that's
- 13:34true. I think that like the like the
- 13:39beginning to middle bit feels a little bit that way.
- 13:42But like after seeing the entirety of the trailer, I think
- 13:45that that that you would, if you like.
- 13:47When I first watched the trailer, this would be my knee
- 13:48gut reaction, kind of not as intense, 'cause I'm not like a
- 13:51baby. But then afterwards it's like,
- 13:54Oh no, it, it brings itself back around in the end.
- 13:57A. Kind of restored or new classic
- 14:00Wow cinematic. It is so absurdly tone deaf that
- 14:05I when I rewatched this for the second time.
- 14:09This guy, I think this guy's hating just to hate.
- 14:11I I was at a loss for words and I'm still at a loss for words
- 14:15now. And maybe it's just better if I
- 14:17just kind of go through it and show you, let's just watch for
- 14:21one second. One second.
- 14:25All right, so the very first line.
- 14:27I don't think the very first. Line is a big issue our home
- 14:30that's immediately not. Classic Wow.
- 14:33No, you're being ridiculous. The first line, the tone of the
- 14:37music may not feel epic enough. It may feel a little bit
- 14:43neutered, a little bit. But the first line is not a
- 14:47problem. Nobody.
- 14:49Nobody has an issue with the first line.
- 14:51Because Classic Wow is not a game where it's like, oh,
- 14:54Azeroth is all of our homes. Like I'm pretty sure the humans
- 14:59of Stormwind were not looking at the orcs when they were fighting
- 15:02them in the first war, the second war and so on and
- 15:05thinking oh, Azeroth is our home.
- 15:10I feel like that's exactly what they were thinking.
- 15:12Didn't they want to like, deport the fucking orcs?
- 15:14It's not like it is a land that is being fought over by many
- 15:18different people. Let's continue.
- 15:19Because they all feel like it's their home.
- 15:21The orcs feel like it's their home now they're trying to like
- 15:23take it over the like, what are you?
- 15:24What the fuck are you talking about?
- 15:25What? I feel like that's a fine
- 15:27remark. If anything, that's speaking to
- 15:29the viewer. And if you want to say that you
- 15:30feel like it's too like, what is it too community driven?
- 15:32I don't even understand your criticism.
- 15:34Azeroth. Her untold stories call to our
- 15:39hearts. Calling to our hearts.
- 15:43I mean, I don't like to use the word like Disney ification, but
- 15:45like. Is that like a big, is that like
- 15:47a big thing that people say in the Wow community?
- 15:49Because I keep hearing that. You know, listen to your heart.
- 15:52You know, it's like something. This is probably a reasonable
- 15:54criticism. The tone is a little off with
- 15:55that. The R Holmes thing just seemed
- 15:57like ridiculous to me. From Pocahontas or something
- 15:59anyway. It's.
- 16:01No big deal so far. Horizons.
- 16:03Whatever. And then this happens.
- 16:07We see the the dwarf from the original Classic Wow cinematic.
- 16:11There was something about this shot that immediately stood out
- 16:15to me and let me show. You well, so far, they're trying
- 16:17to like kind of back into the nostalgia here.
- 16:20I think it was like a decent direction to take it to almost
- 16:22revamp the original trailer. I I, I see the I see the, the
- 16:24vision. See what it is?
- 16:26Because look at his expression. You know what is?
- 16:30What is this expression reading? I don't.
- 16:33Know it seems very. I feel like that's the exact
- 16:34same expression as the original trailer.
- 16:36Am I fucking wrong? I guess he's not quite as angry.
- 16:40He looks similar. He kind of looks the same in a
- 16:42little bit. No, looks a bit.
- 16:46Whatever. Let's see what he has to say.
- 16:47I. Don't know, just thoughtfulness,
- 16:50thinking. Nothing really.
- 16:51Let's go look at the original Classic Wow cinematic and look
- 16:55at the dwarf. Do you see a difference by
- 16:57chance? I guess he looks angrier.
- 16:59Look at this expression. What do you see here?
- 17:02He has like this glower expression to him.
- 17:05He looks determined. He looks like something.
- 17:06Dude, this is what this is what happens.
- 17:08Dude, this is what happens. This is what happens when you're
- 17:11in the English class and the fucking book says like, oh,
- 17:13James likes flowers and the ego Caesar's like, what can we learn
- 17:16from this? What do you think James is
- 17:18really saying? I don't know that he likes
- 17:21flowers. No, I don't think so.
- 17:23I think James is using saying that he likes.
- 17:26I think the author is using James likes flowers as a way to
- 17:30express it. James actually feels more
- 17:31feminine inside of him that he really wishes that he can
- 17:35express that femininity through getting flowers.
- 17:37But it's not really culturally accepted for men to get flowers.
- 17:41I think that's what, you know what I mean?
- 17:42It's like, OK, you're going a little too crazy here.
- 17:44We haven't really gotten to a significant issue yet and you're
- 17:47fucking headache pretending that it's a significant issue.
- 17:49Someone you don't want to mess with and this, you know, just
- 17:52kind of look at the comparison, like, you know, the eyes are
- 17:55more narrowed in this cinematic. He's kind of.
- 17:59Yes, James is actually tranced like, you know what I mean?
- 18:01Like what are we doing here? What?
- 18:02Scowling a little bit. It seems yes, of course,
- 18:05scowling. Yes, I think that is true.
- 18:09Let's just keep watching for a moment.
- 18:11Again, you've got these narrowed eyes and he's looking into the
- 18:13horizon with this, almost like. Are you saying his beady little
- 18:16eyes? Is that racist?
- 18:17I don't know. Stoic like quality to him.
- 18:19They're racist to to the dwarven racing World of Warcraft.
- 18:23We go back to this cinematic and you don't see that, you know, he
- 18:27doesn't look like someone that you don't want to mess with.
- 18:31You know, something that I always love about old World of
- 18:33Warcraft, and I've talked about it many times with you all, and
- 18:35I appreciate that many of you show this opinion, but I love
- 18:38the fact that Blizzard used to be masters of visual
- 18:42storytelling back in the day. This character in this cinematic
- 18:45doesn't say a single word, and yet we know so much about him
- 18:51from the two scenes that he's in.
- 18:53I guess that he's a hardened, chilly dwarf guy.
- 18:56He looks badass. He looks hardened.
- 18:58He's a Mountaineer, a Mountaineer of Iron Forge.
- 19:01He's a hunter, and he has this bear pet.
- 19:04And what is he doing? Well, you know, it could just be
- 19:07a shot of him just walking around out in the snow.
- 19:10But then we realized later on in this.
- 19:13Again, this is not a good criticism because I think that
- 19:15the trailer communicates that. It's just that they have a
- 19:18different message they want to communicate.
- 19:20That's the issue. I feel like this guy doesn't
- 19:21really understand the problem he has with the game, right?
- 19:24Like my, the, my issue isn't that they do bad storytelling.
- 19:27My issue is that I don't necessarily like the, the, the
- 19:29micro story of this character. I wanted it to be a little bit
- 19:32more masculine, you know, And again, I want is the keyword is
- 19:36it is a want thing, right? It doesn't mean that I deserve
- 19:39it. It's just like what I want.
- 19:43Whereas he's just like, oh, see, they're not communicating well
- 19:46with his eyes because like, what?
- 19:47You're what what I think that they are.
- 19:49It's just not the we just don't like that story.
- 19:51Cinematic near the end that, you know, as a Mountaineer, he's
- 19:55defending Dunbaro. That's his job as a soldier of
- 19:59Iron Forge, as a protector of this shot, which shows his
- 20:03country, his land, his people, like where they occupy and he is
- 20:08their protector. And then later on in the
- 20:10cinematic, we see that this dwarf, he stumbles across a
- 20:14Turin. This Turin, for whatever reason,
- 20:17is in Dunbaro. Sometimes you get lost trying to
- 20:20get to the fucking. Sometimes you get lost, man.
- 20:24Sometimes you get lost exploring.
- 20:26In the land of the bronze beard, I.
- 20:29Remember, I've done that before back in classic.
- 20:31I was exploring so much I got lost in like a tears fall as
- 20:36like a fucking dwarf paladin. Dwarfs.
- 20:38And how does this dwarf react? He fires this like a.
- 20:41Bullet out of the bear it. Roars with fury, charging
- 20:45towards the Turin. And what a badass shot.
- 20:48Is this the Turin wielding one of his totems that we see from
- 20:52like Warcraft 3 and whatnot? He swings it and absolutely
- 20:56shatters the spine of this bear, probably killing it instantly.
- 21:02Holy crap, we see this not only with the dwarf, but you know, we
- 21:06see, you know, the mage like arcane magic fighting against
- 21:09fell magic. We remember.
- 21:11The Infernals from Warcraft 3, so true.
- 21:14Again, I like the addition of that.
- 21:15I felt like it had a more like a heavier focus on like the
- 21:18battling aspect of it. That's a good criticism, but
- 21:21it's, I don't know if you're articulating that criticism.
- 21:23Either this conflict is still continuing, we see, you know,
- 21:27the orc fighting against the night elves.
- 21:29So you know this conflict between the orcs and the night
- 21:32elves is still going on. Remember Graham?
- 21:34Hell scream, he was he's the one that killed Sonarius.
- 21:37And you know, the night elves probably have a great grudge,
- 21:40you know, ever since then. I mean, the scenarios was one of
- 21:42their great demigods after all. And like we see in this
- 21:46cinematic that we have a world, Callumdor, the Eastern Kingdoms.
- 21:52And then we see the people of this world, be it the Dwarf, the
- 21:57Night elf, we see the Forsaken. I, I understand what you're
- 22:01saying, but we're kind of getting off the point.
- 22:02The original point that you were trying to make is that they did
- 22:05a bad job with like the the communication through the the
- 22:09eyes and you're going off into a tangent at this point.
- 22:11The Tor and the orc and then we see them in this all out
- 22:15conflict with each other. Even the cinematic begins with
- 22:20the narration saying the drums of War Thunder once again and
- 22:26immediately the cinematic establishes that this is a world
- 22:31of conflict. This is a world at war.
- 22:35All the these different people fighting over Azeroth, fighting
- 22:39for like just survival or for whatever reason that like makes
- 22:43them pick up their swords and conjure their spells.
- 22:46This cinematic immediately communicates that you are about
- 22:50to fall into a world of conflict.
- 22:54I don't even think we really got to the the point of contention
- 22:58yet in the actual trailer. We just feel like he's just
- 23:01unlocking himself. He has a lot to say, but he
- 23:03doesn't know when to say it. I think that's really the
- 23:05problem, you know what I mean? Like he because he already
- 23:08watched him do like a live react to it.
- 23:09So you're not really getting his feelings processed in real time.
- 23:11You're like, he has a lot to say and we haven't even gotten to
- 23:13the point where it's valid to say it yet.
- 23:15A World of Warcraft. Now let's go back to the
- 23:18cinematic. See the dwarf?
- 23:21You know he's just on top of the mountain.
- 23:23And not playing the music is also, I think a Big L because I
- 23:26think that big part of it is like the community.
- 23:28The music communication is off because the music isn't as epic.
- 23:31Just looking around, breathing in the fresh air, you know, it's
- 23:34almost like kind of tranquil. He steps forward and then this
- 23:38little wisp appears and he stops and he like, it's like, oh,
- 23:41like, what's this? The wisp flies in front of the
- 23:44bear. He sniffs it, does a little
- 23:46sneeze, licks its nose, almost like smiles and then looks back
- 23:51towards his owner. So owners like, yeah, like,
- 23:53let's go. And then they kind of just go
- 23:55off on this happy adventure across Azeroth where this music
- 24:01is playing. That is so you.
- 24:03Just listen to it it it doesn't. Ironically, I will say not to be
- 24:11a stereotype, The music does sound like Disney and I know
- 24:13because I my wife and I would go to Disney pretty regularly
- 24:18before we got pregnant. We were going like once a year.
- 24:21So it sounds, it sounds like it sounds like a fucking, you know,
- 24:24music you would hear entering Tomorrowland or something in
- 24:27Disney World, you know, you. Get this shot of this dwarven
- 24:32Mountaineer who just put a bullet into the body of a tauren
- 24:36in the previous cinematic. Now he's picking a flower while
- 24:40like his bear is rolling around in the grass.
- 24:45Dog. Oh my goodness, the bears
- 24:47rolling around in the grass. Well, you want to know what
- 24:50guys? You know where you can roll
- 24:51around? You can roll around in Pop a gut
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- 24:55I'm going to show them to you in a SEC.
- 24:57Funny enough, by the time this video's up, I'm going to have a
- 24:59brand new members only video about classic Wow.
- 25:03Isn't that incredible? Isn't that beautiful or Wow
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- 25:08have access to small gut, gives you full access to the discord,
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- 25:15For $5 a month you get a tremendous amount of members
- 25:18only content. Look at all this.
- 25:19Look at all of that. If you, you could also do it on
- 25:23Patreon, same exact rewards. And if you're going to do it,
- 25:25which you don't have to, you should probably do it through
- 25:26the desktop so it doesn't add any additional mobile fees.
- 25:29Also, Robin did podcast with my wife, has a lot of fun with my
- 25:32wife and I. We're having a baby.
- 25:33We, we talk about it and we got stickers here.
- 25:37That's not the sheet I wanted to show you.
- 25:38We got stickers here, so everything's in description.
- 25:41All right, let's get back to the video.
- 25:43It always sucks when I forget to do the plug.
- 25:44I got to do the plug, guys. I got to do the plug.
- 25:46Playing with the wisp like the language.
- 25:49Ever living hell approved this shot, who was like, oh, let's
- 25:53look at the the Iron Forge Mountaineer like like Oh my
- 25:57like. I think it would have been, to
- 25:59me, it would have made more sense if they led with some of
- 26:01the more fighting stuff and then they ended with it because it
- 26:04would have been, I think better if they led like, again, they
- 26:07led with like the fighting and the masculinity.
- 26:09I'm using that for just lack of a better term, right?
- 26:12And then they showed the that they, that the dwarf hunter had
- 26:15a more feminine side as well. That I think could have been
- 26:18good, you know, rather than kind of like just making them a
- 26:21little bit of a silly boy. They do get into more fighting
- 26:23and violence and cool stuff like later, which I think matches
- 26:25much more of the tone in the video.
- 26:28But I do wish that they kind of lead with something a little bit
- 26:30more reminiscent of a more like a traditional experience on it.
- 26:34I'm really not trying to be like an anti woke guy like I I am
- 26:37fine with some some femininity and stuff.
- 26:39I just got this is like, you know, supposed to be like a
- 26:41revamp. Give me a little bit more, give
- 26:43me a little more cool shit, you know?
- 26:45But again, I'm still going to play.
- 26:47The game looks pretty good. It's not, I'm not going to
- 26:49fucking have a like a fucking asthma gold GTA6 meltdown like,
- 26:52oh, they pussify the game. Like no, it's just like 1 aspect
- 26:54that's like a little annoying, but it's fine.
- 26:55Not going to ruin the entire experience.
- 26:57I'm not a five year old child so I I have the ability to parse
- 26:59through my emotions. Watch Wow.
- 27:06True. Who's hell?
- 27:08Who watched that and was like oh bro, they're.
- 27:11That sort of master who watched that.
- 27:13He's not just about war and fighting, you know, he's, he's
- 27:17got a, a gentle side. That is fine, it's just I wish
- 27:20they showed the war in fighting. You know, like he likes to pick
- 27:24flowers. And yeah, his bear was depicted
- 27:26all like savage and stuff in the original cinematic.
- 27:29But no, let's have the bear playing with the wisp in the
- 27:32background, like, you know, pawing at it and stuff.
- 27:34Who the hell like. I don't you know what?
- 27:41Here's my thing. I don't understand why they
- 27:43people have this much energy over this where they have like a
- 27:45like absolute fucking meltdowns. This is one of the things that
- 27:48bothers me about the Internet. I think more than anything else
- 27:50is that everybody online feels like they need to have an
- 27:53insanely strong opinion about everything that they do and
- 27:55everything that they talk about. The normal opinion on the
- 27:57classic or the Wow forever trailer is like, hey, listen, I
- 28:00wish it was it matched a little bit more of the tone of the
- 28:03original classic Wow trailer or the original release of the Wow
- 28:06trailer. You know what I'm talking about
- 28:08because that one was like very kind of like gritty and
- 28:10masculine and it focused more on like the fighting and violence.
- 28:13And I thought that was cool. And that's like a take that I
- 28:15generally have. The music in the new one is a
- 28:17little bit like, you know, a little bit more feminine.
- 28:20And I think it would be fine to add femininity, but I think you
- 28:22should start with a masculine shit and then show me the soft
- 28:24side. You know that that's cool to me
- 28:27and that's what I said and that's how I felt about it.
- 28:29I'm still going to buy it. I think that the trailer's still
- 28:30pretty good, especially towards the end.
- 28:31It gets into more of the fighting, which really appeals
- 28:33to me. But to me like that, that's my
- 28:35take. And like, I'm I'm not like
- 28:36coming myself. I'm not, I'm not this guy's
- 28:39masturbating his penis. He's coming all over himself.
- 28:42He's so offended by this trailer after he's taking it all in and
- 28:48he has such a struggle. I can't believe they they're
- 28:53trying to pull more women into wow.
- 28:54You know, I'm going to buy the game.
- 28:56I'm fucking I'm a fat neckbeard and so is this guy where we
- 28:58bought the game. Like I said, they could shit in
- 29:00a fucking hot dog bun and you're going to buy classic wow because
- 29:04you're trying to chase that. So they're trying to pull a new
- 29:05audience. I get it.
- 29:07But like everybody feels like they have to have such a strong
- 29:09fucking opinion on everything. Like you could have like a, you
- 29:12don't have to like have a massively strong opinion on
- 29:15everything just because you're online.
- 29:16But everybody feels it needs to be so fucking exaggerated about
- 29:18everything that they say, they feel, they think.
- 29:20Has to be strong, has to be intense, has to be this.
- 29:23Just be like, yeah, I wish it was.
- 29:24I, I, I wish it was a little bit more reminiscent of the classic.
- 29:26You don't have to have like a fucking anti woke meltdown.
- 29:34You know what I mean? Like you don't have to have a
- 29:35fucking like an anti woke meltdown where you're fucking
- 29:38ranting for 11 minutes about the first 3 seconds of the video.
- 29:41It's kind of ridiculous. Anyway, let's keep going.
- 29:44Bear is, you know, running after the wisp playing with it.
- 29:49Still, some of these shots are cool though, like I'm I'm not
- 29:52knocking everything like this shots great.
- 29:54You know, Dollaron opening up and revealing the city within
- 29:57like this is neat. I mean, granted, I mean, if I
- 30:00remember correctly from the the BlizzCon panels, they, they said
- 30:04that this version of classic wow, it takes place a year after
- 30:09the events of Warcraft 3. So maybe I'm wrong about that.
- 30:11But you know, the the mages of Dollaron, they rebuilt this city
- 30:16pretty damn fast, at least most of it.
- 30:18We get these shots of the characters looking around with
- 30:21these, like, big eyes and, you know, oh, like a wonder this is.
- 30:25Maybe since Dalaran's a Magic City, it exists in like a
- 30:27different, on a different time plane or something.
- 30:31And it's going to have like a significant like it's going to
- 30:33be a little bit different to, I don't know, have some kind of
- 30:35war establishment. Like, yeah, they opened it up
- 30:37really quick, but they have like some kind of connection to the
- 30:41to the retail world of classic or something, if that makes any
- 30:44sense. I have no idea.
- 30:44This is like a shot that Blizzard just loves to do.
- 30:48They love to do this shot in their cinematics, like, you
- 30:51know, Winston when he's looking out the window at the moon and
- 30:55stuff like the, you know, almost like childlike wonder at, like
- 31:00what they're beholding. And anyway, this is the only
- 31:03part of the cinematic that actually feels like classic Wow.
- 31:08The only part I get, maybe I don't think that that's true.
- 31:10I think that once the music shifts about right at the middle
- 31:12mark, that's when it starts to become more like even the
- 31:15Daleron part feels like classic Wow.
- 31:20Maybe it does feel a little Disney.
- 31:21OK, I guess he's actually maybe he's right now that's where it
- 31:25gets a little violent. I generally agree with that.
- 31:27And then it that they also tease like the, the fight, there's a
- 31:29little bit of fighting and they choose the on that paladin
- 31:32because, you know, we need, hey, we need everybody to play a
- 31:36Paladin. You know, I'm probably not going
- 31:38to play it now only because there's going to be so many
- 31:40fucking people playing it. They're going to be so
- 31:41overloaded. The wisp, for whatever reason, I
- 31:43think he's right here. You think he's right here
- 31:44though, just to be. Clear.
- 31:45He goes underground and there is this undead paladin.
- 31:48He puts his foot down. It's just like the Warlock, you
- 31:50know? And I like it is a good moment
- 31:52the. Dark magic spread out.
- 31:53He puts his foot down, but it's holy magic.
- 31:55He's consecrating the ground. This looks awesome.
- 31:59I see people saying like wouldn't he hurt himself because
- 32:01he's like whatever, but it's like wouldn't priests hurt
- 32:03themselves too? Like lore wise it makes sense to
- 32:05me. I I don't even know the lore,
- 32:06but it seems like they can make it work.
- 32:07And also what happened to the rule of cool?
- 32:10Do the rule of cool, you know what I mean?
- 32:13Do it. It's.
- 32:13Great, he's got the Horde symbol on his chest.
- 32:16And then he turns and the dwarf, without hesitation, he's like,
- 32:19what a bitch. And then dude, the bear charges
- 32:22and the dwarf fires a bullet. Blizzard just cannot decide on a
- 32:25tone. They cannot decide on an
- 32:27audience. One second they're showing the
- 32:31dwarf picking flowers and his bear is playing and being all
- 32:35silly in the background, and the next the dwarf is underground
- 32:39with his bear like roaring all ferociously and they're putting
- 32:44or trying to at least put a bullet into like the skull of
- 32:47this undead bro. Yeah, I I don't think that
- 32:50they're again, like, this is like one of those things where
- 32:52like, he doesn't quite understand.
- 32:53I feel like they, they can't pick an audience.
- 32:55Like, no, they're trying to appeal to multiple audiences.
- 32:57That's the point. Like, I understand what they're
- 32:59doing. I think most people do.
- 33:01Again, I feel like they should have maybe LED with a little bit
- 33:03more of like a masculine energy and they, they should have ended
- 33:05with some more feminine energy. That's how I would have
- 33:07appreciated it. But like, girls do be playing
- 33:10hunters. Girls do be liking pets, right?
- 33:15And boys do be liking cool undead shit.
- 33:17And that's kind of what it comes down to.
- 33:18And I think that for me, from my understanding, the way that I
- 33:21look at this, is that like classic Wow or excuse me, Wow
- 33:24forever is hey, World of Warcraft is dying in general.
- 33:28It's been dying, but it's probably much closer to dying
- 33:31now than it ever really has been before.
- 33:34And we have a large female audience because of a lot of the
- 33:36things that we added into Wow, you know, like transmag and
- 33:39stuff. And we want to, we also want to
- 33:42have a potential light transition from people playing
- 33:45retail to potentially playing Wow forever so that we can
- 33:48maintain success in this in in this thing, for lack of a better
- 33:55term. And so we and we know a lot of
- 33:57the guys are going to play it already.
- 33:58So let's appeal to women and gay people.
- 34:01And it makes sense to me from a marketing perspective.
- 34:03I totally get it. You know, the bigger part of The
- 34:05thing is I don't think it's a bad trailer.
- 34:07I think that it was, it wasn't, wasn't made for me,
- 34:10unfortunately. And it feels like it should be a
- 34:12little bit more. I have no problem with them
- 34:14adding a little more femininity to it.
- 34:16I just wish it LED with a little bit more of like, hey, I want
- 34:18you to play this like you're the guy who played the game when you
- 34:20were a kid. You know, that's it.
- 34:23But it's not that big of a deal. Yeah.
- 34:26Oh like it feels like 2 like two different teams like made the
- 34:30same cinematic right there like just choose a damn tone.
- 34:34This should have been the whole damn cinematic.
- 34:37Then there's the shot again, like look at the bear, like the
- 34:41big wonder filled eyes and oh you know, what am I looking at?
- 34:45Like oh it's so beautiful and this shot is awesome.
- 34:49Like to be fair, this this shot and the undead paladin are the
- 34:52two best things. That's right, women and gays do
- 34:55be spending money. In the cinematic because seeing
- 34:57Arcaman's corpse in the roots of Mount Haigel like Nordressel
- 35:02rather that that's awesome, but then immediately like the wisp
- 35:06shows up the bear my webcam things in the way.
- 35:10Let me turn it off for a second. The bear literally smiles like
- 35:14what am I watching? This is what I'm talking about.
- 35:16I feel like he's having too much of A meltdown over it.
- 35:19You have literal smiling animals in your cinematic.
- 35:23What in the ever? I'm going back to it.
- 35:29This is what I'm talking about. This is This is why I feel like
- 35:31this is like a little too like anti woke.
- 35:33You know what I mean? Like this is the problem is that
- 35:36like saying that the whole trailer should have been like
- 35:39just this like the classic trailer, you know, and some of
- 35:43these criticisms are like a little overboard to me.
- 35:45Like I said, like there is room for femininity in World of
- 35:47Warcraft. I just, I would have just liked
- 35:50to see more of the masculinity leading with in this situation
- 35:53to appeal to, you know, the player base.
- 35:55Now, maybe, you know, in this guy's defense, I was really
- 35:58excited when I saw that they're doing Undid Paladins because
- 36:00it's about fucking time. And so maybe that's part of it.
- 36:04So like that maybe I got so fucking enamoured with that that
- 36:06I was like, whoa. And like, I've overly focused on
- 36:08that, But I really don't think so.
- 36:09I think some people are just like a little too like I think
- 36:14they're a little too sensationalized, little too anti
- 36:16woke brained. Like I don't think this guy is
- 36:18like a fucking Nazi or anything. I'm not saying, you know, I'm
- 36:20just, I'm just saying like it just seems a little excessive to
- 36:23be this, to say that this trailer should have all been
- 36:26this one thing. It's just like it doesn't make
- 36:27any sense from a marketing perspective at all.
- 36:40Oh. Smiling Bear kind of reminds me
- 36:43of Freddy Fazbear. True dude.
- 36:44There you go. Wait, hold on, we need some
- 36:46smiling animals in there, we need like singing Bunny rabbits
- 36:50and we need to pick some flowers that would make this cinema.
- 36:53Who bro? Who?
- 36:57In the ever living hell approved to this.
- 37:02It's not that, but you heard that.
- 37:04He sounds like asthma gold here. Bro, chill out.
- 37:06You don't have to. You don't have to have a fucking
- 37:08like a goober headed meltdown over this.
- 37:09It's not that deep. It really isn't like you don't
- 37:12have to perform online for views and that's what it is.
- 37:14People are really locked into it.
- 37:15A lot of content creators are locked into having an insanely
- 37:19strong takes on topics. They're really locked into it
- 37:24because they feel like that's what you have to do.
- 37:25And maybe you do have to do that, but it feels so
- 37:27exaggerated, like it's like there's no room for breathing
- 37:30here. This is like the most intense
- 37:32take about it, you know? Anyway, dwarf bowels to the
- 37:35wisp. For some reason the bear and the
- 37:38dwarf look all happily up at the wisps as they go up into, you
- 37:43know, the the branches of Nordra cell or whatever.
- 37:46Then we get this shot of, you know, this new zone no one's
- 37:50seen before. And then we get, and we're going
- 37:53to talk about it. Don't worry, we get.
- 37:55Isn't that just the same fucking sky zone that we saw in like
- 37:58Cataclysm or something? I don't know.
- 38:00The blue blood elf. Who the hell thought it was a
- 38:03good idea of like, oh hey, let's have the dwarf from the original
- 38:08classic Wow cinematic. He's chilling with his bear and
- 38:12then he gets a freaking whiff of like a magic pussy fart from
- 38:18like this bitch up in the clouds.
- 38:21I mean, let me tell you something, if I I would sniff on
- 38:23that fucking. What are you talking about?
- 38:25Were you gay? This guy's gay as hell.
- 38:27Mr. Bear gets a whiff of it too, as you can see.
- 38:31And then Bear and dude are like, oh damn, we got to figure out
- 38:34where that came from. And they just go on this
- 38:35adventure across the world trying to find like, who the
- 38:39hell? Well, I mean, since you're
- 38:40saying it like that, you know, they leading with like, hey,
- 38:42we're bringing the adventure back to World of Warcraft might
- 38:45have been the tone that they were going with.
- 38:47They might have. And and I think that that makes
- 38:48sense to me because the adventure in World of Warcraft
- 38:51is kind of dead. Like, again, you can just fly
- 38:52everywhere. You can instantly teleport
- 38:54places, you battleground queues, ungen queues, S queue, raid
- 38:57Finder queues. And so maybe that maybe that was
- 39:01their intention. Maybe their intention is to say
- 39:02like, hey, we want to bring the adventure back to World of
- 39:04Warcraft. That's probably what they wanted
- 39:06to do. And that actually makes sense
- 39:07after exploring, after we just had our fucking teacher do a
- 39:10like some kind of a literacy message here.
- 39:11Yeah, that makes sense to me. Prove this so stupid.
- 39:16So remember at the beginning when I said.
- 39:18Also, like, I don't understand what the problem is with the
- 39:20with That's the thing too. I don't particularly care for
- 39:22the aesthetic of night elves or any of that.
- 39:25But like, you know, blood elves are like elves do be big people
- 39:30like elves a lot. And I was, you know, actually
- 39:33it's funny enough, I was talking to P who loves his game a lot,
- 39:38and she was mentioning that like back in the day there was like
- 39:41a, you know, 60% split on an Alliance, then 40 on Horde.
- 39:45And then after they released blood elves, that kind of
- 39:47shifted in the opposite direction.
- 39:48Now, part of that probably had a lot to do with the fact that
- 39:50paladins were also being introduced to the Horde and, and
- 39:53what not, but like, yeah, elves are a pull.
- 39:57So it makes sense to have like a like to have a specifically the
- 40:00blood elves and that's like it's just a blue blood elf model.
- 40:04A blue blood Elf model, that's probably a nice pull for both
- 40:07factions. So this way people can play
- 40:08whatever that they want to, whatever they want to play,
- 40:11still have that aesthetic of that elf, you know, So it makes
- 40:14sense. That you know, it's not really a
- 40:16correct I'm. Not really understanding like
- 40:17what your issue is with the addition of it.
- 40:19I feel like I personally think it like seems a little weird now
- 40:21to play it but like whatever I get it.
- 40:22Like I understand the marketing side of it and like Wow forever
- 40:25isn't going to last forever in less than unless more than just
- 40:30I am happy. You know what I mean?
- 40:32Like, you know what I mean? Like I I want the franchise to
- 40:34be successful. I'm going to have to give things
- 40:36up. Like I'm going to have to see
- 40:37more elves in the game. Oh no, you know what I mean?
- 40:40Like, OK, there you go. Correct way to do classic plus,
- 40:44but there are ways to do classic plus wrong.
- 40:47You know what one of those ways are?
- 40:49I don't know what you tell me, Ben.
- 40:51That is not capturing the tone of Classic Wow and not
- 40:57understanding the tone of Classic Wow.
- 41:00This feels like it was made by a children's CGI movie company.
- 41:08The classic wow cinematic feels like it was made by a bunch of
- 41:12bad ass game developers that were making a game.
- 41:15Probably men, Am I right? About a world out war full of
- 41:18different peoples, different classes, different ideologies,
- 41:22different religions, different whatever all of that is.
- 41:25About the religion thing, but like yes there was a little bit
- 41:28more variety in the original 2 when it came to showing off more
- 41:30classes. I agree with that.
- 41:32Communicated in the, not. Only of those elves laser
- 41:34risking. They also got 30 bucks a walk.
- 41:36I don't care. I, I again, like, I don't care.
- 41:39I don't care about that. It's not like a pay to win
- 41:40feature. If they want to charge 30 extra
- 41:41dollars so you can play their magical new fucking race, I
- 41:43don't give a shit. You know what I mean?
- 41:44Like I, that's The thing is that like I don't really care about
- 41:46them having things cost money in the video game.
- 41:49I don't give a shit if they want to make some money by doing
- 41:53that. I think that's perfectly fine.
- 41:54Things have kind of shifted in the way that you make money and
- 41:57really in all forms of media subscriptions just aren't like
- 42:00necessarily all you can do nowadays.
- 42:03You kind of have to figure out a way to like monetize a little
- 42:05bit more for the people who are willing to want to spend and
- 42:07want to spend more. I really have no issue with it.
- 42:09Frankly, I personally, and they probably won't add this, I would
- 42:11have no problem with them doing buying gold, which sounds
- 42:16stupid, but I remember like you had to buy like a lot of times
- 42:18you ended up buying gold. Even when you played like like
- 42:20the re release classic, you would just buy it from fucking
- 42:22Chinese people, gold farmers because like you didn't have
- 42:25time to get all your fucking potions anyway, You know what I
- 42:27mean? Like I don't give a shit about
- 42:28that. They probably shouldn't add
- 42:30that. They probably just make it a
- 42:32little more accessible and not have to do, you know, some other
- 42:34things. But like, I, I don't care about
- 42:36that. I don't care that they wanted to
- 42:37do that. Like it doesn't mean a singular
- 42:39fucking thing to me That doesn't I don't care about that.
- 42:41You know what I mean? Like whatever they want to, they
- 42:43need to make some money. They want to make some money.
- 42:44I don't give a shit. It's it's stupid to me.
- 42:46The original classic Wow cinematic.
- 42:49From the Torin with his shamanistic look to the dwarf
- 42:52and his rifle, to the night elf out in the woods, it will
- 42:55transform into. A trans night elves?
- 42:58What the fuck? At because of her connection to
- 43:01the should you be a druid of many different peoples, of many
- 43:05different ideas of why? Is it so weirdly poetic it's
- 43:07kind of gay? The different beliefs and so on.
- 43:10A world at conflict with itself. This cinematic does not
- 43:14communicate that at all. The closest that we get is that
- 43:17scene right there with the dwarf firing a bullet real fast in an
- 43:21undead paladin. But the other 95% of the
- 43:23cinematic? Not at all.
- 43:25This cinema. I feel like I, I feel like Asma
- 43:27Gold did like a a real big number on the fucking gaming
- 43:30community. Like holy fuck.
- 43:33Matic was garbage. Cinematic wasn't garbage, it
- 43:37just didn't it didn't really appeal to me the way that I felt
- 43:39like it should have. That's it.
- 43:41It wasn't garbage, It just wasn't for me.
- 43:43And that's one of the things that's like a sign of I think,
- 43:44you know, like that's this, this is 2.
- 43:48What the fuck? That was crazy stutter.
- 43:49This is two different arguments here, that it being the tone not
- 43:53being for me or more classic, you know, oriented like or more
- 43:57masculine, I guess whatever is different from it's garbage.
- 44:00I don't think it was garbage. I just understand that it wasn't
- 44:02for me. And I feel like it would have
- 44:03been nice if it was a little bit more appealing to to like the
- 44:06more, you know, classic audience.
- 44:08But yeah, I mean, relax, you know, to adventure.
- 44:15The fact that she even says to home like bro like.
- 44:20Well, I think that she's trying to say, hey guys, we're going
- 44:22home to classic Wow. I think that's all that she's
- 44:24trying to say, Like, hey, we're getting back to the I'm going to
- 44:26fucking die right at the end. Here, like this dumb sounding
- 44:29vernacular that has snuck its way into my Warcraft.
- 44:32It's our home. Yeah, it's good from the
- 44:35perspective of the company, but we are not the company.
- 44:36We're the consumer of the products described as a very
- 44:38much anti consumer. No, yes and no, not really.
- 44:41Like I don't think I agree with you with that.
- 44:43Like you have to understand that there has to be a certain amount
- 44:45of consumerism that they advocate for in order to operate
- 44:47the, to like to, to break their bottom line.
- 44:50Like that's just like a reality of the world.
- 44:52Like they need to do certain things to make certain things
- 44:54successful. And like I said, like marketing
- 44:56models have shifted. Wow.
- 44:57I don't even think it's increased in price since the,
- 44:59the beginning. Like World of Warcraft has been
- 45:01$15.00 a month since the release of World of Warcraft.
- 45:03I think that you have to understand that that makes
- 45:06absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever in any capacity.
- 45:09So yeah, so back in 2004, Classic Wow cost $15.00 a month
- 45:14and it still does today. So that means it used to cost
- 45:16$26 a month. Basically, if according to
- 45:18inflation, they haven't raised the price whatsoever.
- 45:21And so like they could raise the price, everybody would bitch and
- 45:23complain about it 'cause they feel like it should still be
- 45:24$15.00 a month, even though it probably should be like $25.00 a
- 45:27month, right? So what they end, I understand
- 45:30that technology gets more efficient, but there are more
- 45:32people playing and consuming and there are a lot of costs and
- 45:34there are different things and people want like a very new big
- 45:36different things. There's a lot of different
- 45:38things that go into it. And so I understand what you're
- 45:40saying, but at the end of the day, if they don't monetize the
- 45:43game properly, they're not going to be able to output content and
- 45:46make something for people. So the fact that the trailer is
- 45:49a little bit gay and more appealing to women makes sense
- 45:51to me because with that, that's a whole other audience that
- 45:53they've captured pretty well in retail.
- 45:54And if they can capture it into Wow forever, especially as
- 45:57retail falls off, it'll keep the game going longer, which is what
- 46:01I want. That's why there's transmoga in
- 46:03the game. That's why there's more fucking
- 46:04elves in the game, because they want to keep the game going
- 46:06longer. So implementing different
- 46:08monetization schemes to be able to make more money to make the
- 46:12game successful. As long as they don't like super
- 46:14get in the way, I think it's fine.
- 46:16I'm really, I'm really OK with it.
- 46:18I'm OK with them charging $30.00 for this fuck ass elf model.
- 46:21I don't give a shit. I would be OK if they sold Wow
- 46:24gold because again, like I, I just don't I don't I don't care.
- 46:28They don't necessarily care about that.
- 46:30I would care if they did like a pay to win.
- 46:32This is an aesthetic. You don't need to play blue
- 46:34girl. You know, blue girl.
- 46:36Then you came to see her fucking feet in the fucking trailer.
- 46:38Oh, what the hell is that about? You know, level boosting.
- 46:42I would have more of a problem with that.
- 46:44That would be an issue with me paid level boosting.
- 46:47I have an issue with or something like that.
- 46:50But like aesthetic shit. I, I, I don't really give a fuck
- 46:52about. I just don't care, you know, so
- 47:01I don't care that they want to make money and that they're
- 47:03charging extra for this like blue girl.
- 47:05It it means fucking nothing to me.
- 47:07But you have to keep that in mind when it comes down to
- 47:10stuff, you know. Oh yeah.
- 47:14That's another thing is wow forever is technically like it's
- 47:17basically free. I mean, it's, you don't have to
- 47:20get like the base game comes with any Wow Subs.
- 47:22So they're not even, they don't necessarily make like front
- 47:24loaded money. That's another aspect like I'm
- 47:26looking at like here you go, you already have the base game for
- 47:28free. It's just a $15.00 a month
- 47:31thing. It doesn't really matter to me.
- 47:33So yeah, 30 extra bucks, you get this, you get the, the fucking,
- 47:36the blue people. You get some kind of mount, you
- 47:39get some kind of transmog, you get like some kind of veteran's
- 47:42adventure sack backpack transmog, you get a toy, you get
- 47:46the core for your house and you get to do wow early, like name
- 47:50reservation for 30 bucks. Like it makes sense to me.
- 47:54Hey, we invested A tremendous amount of time into this.
- 47:56The game is free, but if you want to pay more, we got a
- 47:59couple of things for you. If you want to do the 60, you
- 48:01get the beta access, you get the ground mount, you get like, you
- 48:05know, transmog mount, transmog pets, transmogs, Hubbard's, you
- 48:10get Wow game time for $59.00. So I guess that's basically
- 48:14like, you know, what is it 45 bucks?
- 48:16Like OK. And then if you pay way too much
- 48:18money for it, you get the entirety of Warcraft 3 reforged
- 48:21with the expansion pack and you get like some kind of fucking
- 48:25decor. It really fucked up on reforged
- 48:28by the way, but it seems like they have a new thing coming
- 48:30out, so whatever. So and then you have like invite
- 48:35friend launch codes. I don't see an issue with this.
- 48:38I just don't fucking pay for it. Like I'm not going to do early
- 48:42access to the beta, I'm just going to play the game when it
- 48:44comes out. Just fucking be patient, don't
- 48:46pay for it, don't give a shit. It's everything is fucking
- 48:48optional. The game is basically free so
- 48:50they don't have a guaranteed way to monetize in the front end and
- 48:57like that's usually what the games do.
- 48:58The same is fucking this game is basically $15.00 a month without
- 49:01any extras and all the extras are extra if you decide to do
- 49:05it. So like having monetization in
- 49:06it isn't a fucking problem. Like what do they want to like I
- 49:08don't care that they're asking for 30 bucks dollars.
- 49:10Is it worth it? Probably not.
- 49:12That's not the point though. It's like I understand that you
- 49:14don't feel like it's worth it. I don't really think that's is a
- 49:16big deal. You could just not do it, but
- 49:21like they're trying to try to get some of their money in the
- 49:23front. It's like again, like it's like
- 49:25me having YouTube membership, like if I, if I just existed off
- 49:27of ad revenue, like I'd probably be fucked, right?
- 49:30So I have like some membership stuff where I give like some
- 49:32members only content out and I hope people feel like it's worth
- 49:34it. I give a good amount of members
- 49:35only content out, but like that's this, this is what this
- 49:37is. This is their members only
- 49:38content. This is like front loading.
- 49:39Hey, you want some extra stuff? I mean, it may not necessarily
- 49:42be worth it, but if you really like our stuff and you want to
- 49:44support us, you could do this. That's what it seems like to me.
- 49:48You know, I don't think it's a huge deal.
- 49:51I don't think it's a big deal at all.
- 49:53Like I, I, I just don't think it's a big deal.
- 49:55Oh, it calls to our hearts, you know, like, huh.
- 49:59It's so lame. Any.
- 50:00True, I don't know, I already reacted to this like a couple of
- 50:04minutes of this because I fucking forgot to put the video
- 50:06up. Wait.
- 50:07Forgot to put the video up. All right, now we're over on the
- 50:12gameplay trailer. You know what the second thing
- 50:14is that you can mess up? It's this.
- 50:17Let me let me explain one thing beforehand.
- 50:20Blizzard could have had such an easy win.
- 50:23All they had to do if they wanted to do a successful
- 50:26classic plus is re release classic wow.
- 50:29Do do these updated graphics talk about the like the level
- 50:34cap will always be at 60. You're going to keep releasing
- 50:37content for the world. You're going to keep the world,
- 50:39the main character, maybe put a new PvP system in, like, you
- 50:43know, a new honor system or whatever, and some new dungeons
- 50:46and new raids and a couple. That's what they're doing.
- 50:48Pull a new zones and you know what?
- 50:50That would be classic Plus and that would I.
- 50:52Mean they're doing all of that. Be that'd be good cool, like,
- 50:54you know. I, I just, I don't think that he
- 50:55has a good idea of like classic plug, what people actually want,
- 50:58classic plus without balancing the classes out.
- 51:01I think that's silly. That's what it really boils down
- 51:03to. People want to be able to play
- 51:04everything viably. That's really what like people
- 51:06want that people want to be able to play a shadow priest or a
- 51:09Rhett paladin or, you know, these different things.
- 51:11They want, they actively want to be able to have more viability
- 51:14when they play games. So like the fact that you're,
- 51:17you're, you're missing out on that, like, which I think is the
- 51:20biggest thing. It's silly to me.
- 51:23I, I don't understand, you know, that's, that's a big part of it.
- 51:27They want to feel the way that they felt back in the day for
- 51:30Classic. And like back then, Wow had a
- 51:32lot more customization compared to other games and it was really
- 51:35cool. But it was like unpolished and
- 51:37people are looking for a more polished look now.
- 51:40They would and that's how you recapture the feeling that you
- 51:43got back then. Wow comparatively back then was
- 51:45kind of a pussy game where it was quick to level up and there
- 51:48were a lot of different options. Nowadays that doesn't 100% stand
- 51:52true. So compare like, so comparing
- 51:55Wow like virginal Wow to like Final Fantasy 11, it seemed like
- 51:59a big quality of life upgrade. So now people want a nice
- 52:01quality of life upgrade from the classic Wow to now without going
- 52:04too far, right. And part of that means like
- 52:07they're adding more quests in there.
- 52:08I don't think that they're reducing the level cap or,
- 52:10excuse me, I don't think that they're making it.
- 52:13I don't think they're doing any experience gains or reducing the
- 52:16amount of experience that you get.
- 52:17But they're like reducing experience in dungeons or adding
- 52:19more quests, especially in dungeons, so that the experience
- 52:22is more streamlined so you don't have to like run around looking
- 52:23for quests. So they're trying to make, you
- 52:25know what it's like. That's what people want.
- 52:26What are you talking? About You've created some new
- 52:28content for us to explore, but you know, you got to throw a
- 52:30surprise in there. You got to throw in something
- 52:32new, something unexpected, because the one thing about
- 52:36Classic Plus is that everyone expects a new zones, everyone
- 52:40expects some new dungeons and new raids and you know,
- 52:43whatever. But you got to do something
- 52:46really different, something that's going to make people say
- 52:50that is unique to Classic Plus that the modern game doesn't
- 52:54have. And it's got to be something
- 52:56big, something major. It can't just be like, oh, you
- 52:59can disable or enable transmogs like Ascension Wow did like
- 53:04forever ago. No, it's got to be something
- 53:06bigger than that. That's why I've always advocated
- 53:08for like, oh, like put the Necromancer class in Classic
- 53:12Plus. It was one of the originally
- 53:14planned classes for Classic Wow back in the day.
- 53:16Why would they do that on the release again?
- 53:19I maybe I'm just like being too generous and understanding of
- 53:21the company. My understanding is that they
- 53:22have plans to put nagas in the game, Ogres in the game.
- 53:26They're talking about new classes.
- 53:27They should add a Demon Hunter because that was like the Demon
- 53:29Hunter death Knights necromancer.
- 53:31Add an engineering class. I'd love to see that slowly
- 53:33being implemented. Why would you release that on
- 53:36release? What makes the most sense from a
- 53:38business strategy is to release the game with some extra content
- 53:41and a nice streamlined experience, and then six months
- 53:43down the line of release a new race.
- 53:44Or release a new class and race at the same time to incentivize
- 53:47people to like level again and to keep the levelling zones
- 53:50fresh so that when you want to reroll a character, even if it's
- 53:52not the new class in race, guess what?
- 53:54There's going to be people levelling still.
- 53:57There's a lot of moving parts to this that people don't consider
- 54:00or don't want to consider. One of those things is like,
- 54:03hey, how do we, how do we make sure that there's still a
- 54:07relevant levelling experience six months from now when
- 54:10everybody's Max level and they're on like content farm,
- 54:12Especially since we're not going to increase the level cap, What
- 54:15do we do? We do things like incentivize
- 54:18you to want to reroll characters by adding new classes, by adding
- 54:21new races, by adding some like things that make it a little bit
- 54:23faster after you already have a level 60 character so that you
- 54:26can have a little bit better of an experience, right?
- 54:29You, you can't, you can't just like go off the cuff with like
- 54:31new this new that new everything else.
- 54:33That's a that's a nightmare. It's also a lot of like
- 54:35financial investment to something that they don't
- 54:36necessarily know is going to be successful.
- 54:39Put it in classic plus you know modern game doesn't have the
- 54:41necromancer. Doesn't have to be that class.
- 54:43So it could be a tinker, it could be a witch doctor, or
- 54:46maybe a new race, a race that is unique to Classic Plus.
- 54:50Maybe, you know, people have been asking for years for ogres.
- 54:54Like there's tons of races in World of Warcraft that people
- 54:58have been asking for for years that you could put in Classic
- 55:00Plus that we've never played House before, and that'll be
- 55:03cool. The point is like, you want to
- 55:04do something surprising, You want to do something really
- 55:08unique. They they kind of did that with
- 55:11like the undead paladin. It was a little surprising, you
- 55:14know, and also I'm not a big fan of having to like forcefully do
- 55:17unique again. I understand the business and
- 55:18content strategy. I want the scheme to last like a
- 55:20longer than like a fucking three months.
- 55:22So I understand what they're doing.
- 55:23Something really special. But you know what Blizzard did?
- 55:27Like they gave us a lot of cool stuff.
- 55:29Like, you know, we got the new zones, that's great.
- 55:32We got the new raids, We got some new dungeons, we got the
- 55:35new race and class combos. Like, OK, stuff we've seen on
- 55:39like even your most basic attempt at a classic plus
- 55:42private server. Also, I know that he's trying to
- 55:44say that that's like a slur. Again, I don't see it that way.
- 55:48Like World of Warcraft. For a very long time Blizzard
- 55:50has let people operate private servers and they still do.
- 55:53They do start taking them down once they want to release a
- 55:56product. Similar.
- 55:57Right? Like I remember the whole thing,
- 55:58what is it called? Was it like Night Haven or
- 55:59whatever the fuck the server was right?
- 56:02But like people deciding to make a classic experience for a
- 56:04decade and then I'm going, OK, we're going to release our own
- 56:07classic experience. So you have to take your game
- 56:08down. It sounds like an equal trade,
- 56:11if any. Like the those other servers got
- 56:13to operate without, with doing whatever they wanted, with all
- 56:17these new features, without any meaningful contestant.
- 56:21And then you know what? They gave them ideas, people.
- 56:23People like the ideas. Like, yeah, let's use it.
- 56:24Why would they stay away from you?
- 56:25You know what I mean? Like it makes perfect sense to
- 56:27me. But then they give us this
- 56:29another elf race. Makes perfect sense.
- 56:31It's a it's a blood elf race. It's a blood elf reskin with
- 56:34blue yes. It makes perfect sense again,
- 56:36Pete, to get more people to play the game, yes.
- 56:38It it's literally a blood elf. Yep, it makes perfect sense.
- 56:41Some Blizzard developer opened up the skin file and applied ACC
- 56:46toner to it and shifted it from like Peach skin to blue.
- 56:51We've Yeah. Well, no.
- 56:52This is a Blood Elf model. This isn't a Night Elf model,
- 56:54but. Got blood elves and night elves
- 56:59and night born and void. Yeah, there are a lot of elves.
- 57:02Even trolls are like descendants around elves, yes.
- 57:04Elves. And now we have these guys.
- 57:08We've got the sky born elf. Yeah, there are a lot of elves.
- 57:11I hope they don't go elf crazy. Two different types of elves are
- 57:14in this classic game right now. So like whatever they again,
- 57:17people like people, people like it.
- 57:20And it was like, I think, I think the blood elf might be the
- 57:22most successful race they ever implemented into, into World of
- 57:25Warcraft. I, I would, I would almost bet
- 57:28on it. Oh, look who's right.
- 57:31Blood elf number one, this is apparently this is like the
- 57:34statistics of people Blood elf, then night elf then, and then
- 57:37it's a pretty substantial drop off at human, orc, void elf.
- 57:41I guess these elves didn't do as well.
- 57:42Dorf torn blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
- 57:45blah blah blah. You get the point.
- 57:47This makes sense to me. This is all levels.
- 57:49I wonder if it changes at Max level.
- 57:52Oh, it does. It's just more night elves.
- 57:55This makes sense to me. And again, like if you're
- 57:57thinking of this game as like I wanted to be successful, you
- 58:00would understand why they're adding a like a reskin to blood
- 58:03elf to the game so that more people are likely to play it.
- 58:06It is that deep. People like their RP.
- 58:08They like to look a certain way. I'm going to play.
- 58:10I want to play an undead. Let's see how popular the undead
- 58:13are. I mean, I'm fucking illiterate,
- 58:16so I can't even find them. They're right here. 3% They're,
- 58:19they're, they're 1/5 as popular as a blood elf and night elves.
- 58:24If I want to be able to play my undead, we need to have more gay
- 58:26elves. We need more gay fucking elves
- 58:29to be inside of this game because that pulls people into
- 58:33playing the game. And if I want a game that is
- 58:36solid with a community of people to play with that's diverse or
- 58:40whatever, and that's not a bunch of sweaty toxic fucks that piss
- 58:42me off because I that pisses me off more than bad players.
- 58:47We need to have more gay little elves.
- 58:49That's it. That's how the game works.
- 58:51Like you guys, like you guys don't see the you guys just
- 58:54don't even want to see it like that.
- 58:57Yeah, playing undead because my power fantasy is being skinny.
- 58:59Yes. No, I don't know.
- 59:00I like them. I guarantee you ogres wouldn't
- 59:02be that much more popular. I feel like a new ogre being new
- 59:06would be popular, but it would fall off and it would be less
- 59:08popular than humans and orcs. It'd probably be down here more
- 59:11towards the drain eye. I would say the aesthetics
- 59:14matter. And like, if you want a
- 59:15successful game, you have to understand some of the things
- 59:17that have to be implemented into World of Warcraft and like
- 59:19concessions that you have to make as a as a player.
- 59:21And the concession is seeing something gay.
- 59:23It's like, OK, whoa, shit. It's not a big of a deal.
- 59:26I don't mind it. I think it's perfectly fine.
- 59:28You know, I think it's perfectly fine, honestly.
- 59:32It's not even a unique race in the way that they look, it's
- 59:36just a blood elf and the skin is blue.
- 59:39Makes perfect sense to me. I'm all again like, I don't
- 59:41think they have to do something drastic to try to pull in
- 59:42people's attention. I think they look a massive like
- 59:45holy fuck, this is so crazy and different.
- 59:47No, it's something small. It's just a new.
- 59:48It's a reskin of something that was very successful and it
- 59:50works. Cool.
- 59:52Could they could they have just done blood elves more wise?
- 59:54I have no idea, but maybe I don't know, who cares?
- 59:56I don't give a shit. They're making a blue elf, blue
- 59:57blood elf. Cool.
- 59:58OK, I got it. That's like use your old assets.
- 1:00:01I don't. Know that is their big surprise.
- 1:00:05The big thing to make Classic Plus truly unique is just a blue
- 1:00:10skinned. And you know what else?
- 1:00:13That's not even the worst part, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:00:16Most of you didn't see this because maybe you weren't
- 1:00:18following Wowhead and whatnot during BlizzCon.
- 1:00:20Yeah, well I try not to ruin games for myself by like,
- 1:00:24already knowing everything about them before they come out. $30
- 1:00:28who? Cares.
- 1:00:29I don't. Again, I already talked about
- 1:00:30this. I don't care.
- 1:00:31The game's free, you know, Classic Plus you get the new
- 1:00:34dungeons and the world and the new zones and whatnot.
- 1:00:36Yeah, you can play that totally for free, but you want to just
- 1:00:39play a reskinned like recolored Blood Elf model $30.00 please.
- 1:00:44I think I just, I just think he doesn't really understand what
- 1:00:47he's saying. Like what he's saying is like,
- 1:00:49look, they're charging you $30.00 for this.
- 1:00:51You get other stuff too. They're charging you $30.00 for
- 1:00:54this, for this Sky born race. Isn't that crazy?
- 1:00:56The game, he literally even just said it.
- 1:00:57The game's free. You can just play the game for
- 1:00:59free. You don't have to buy this, but
- 1:01:01it's $30. What they're doing here is
- 1:01:03they're saying we're making this product for you.
- 1:01:05That's a massive revamp of Classic, which cost them a lot
- 1:01:08of time, energy, and effort. We're doing this for free.
- 1:01:10You just have to do the subscription.
- 1:01:11That hasn't changed in like 22 fucking years, which should be
- 1:01:14$25 if you just for inflation now.
- 1:01:16But guess what? We're charging $30.00 for this
- 1:01:19optional race that you don't need to play as a way to
- 1:01:23accumulate some money. That's it.
- 1:01:25It makes sense. It makes sense.
- 1:01:27I feel like people would be complaining if they're if they
- 1:01:30re released Wow forever with like oh hey we're going to
- 1:01:33charge $30.00 for it or 20 bucks for it or something.
- 1:01:36They would complain about it because it makes sense to not
- 1:01:38charge it before it. So instead they're just trying
- 1:01:40to do like kind of like optional things.
- 1:01:43That's it. It makes perfect sense.
- 1:01:46Like you're focusing on this in the most negative way that you
- 1:01:49possibly can. They're doing this so they can
- 1:01:51make the game free to accumulate some of their money back.
- 1:01:53They still have to make changes. They're still spending time,
- 1:01:57energy and effort into, like doing some of the lore and some
- 1:01:59of the obviously, like the implementation of visuals,
- 1:02:02changing the different classes, the different races, the
- 1:02:04different animations, giving you options of doing it.
- 1:02:06Like, yeah, OK, cool. You know what I mean?
- 1:02:10Like people don't. Yeah.
- 1:02:11It's just think about these things, man.
- 1:02:16Yeah. I don't know.
- 1:02:17You're so negative about it. All you had to do Blizzard was
- 1:02:21just some new race and class combos, some new zones, some new
- 1:02:24dungeons, some new raids. Maybe throw a new class in there
- 1:02:27or some unique race like Ogre or whatever and you would have had
- 1:02:31a huge win. He already they already did have
- 1:02:33a huge win. The game looks good and like
- 1:02:35again, he's just begging for every bit of content to be early
- 1:02:38since and then, like I said before, he doesn't he doesn't
- 1:02:40get it. This guy doesn't get it.
- 1:02:41He's like, I don't mean to be rude.
- 1:02:42This is what happens like when you're an adult that got popular
- 1:02:46when you were a kid and you don't have like any concept of
- 1:02:47the world around you. If if they release all these new
- 1:02:50classes and racial combinations and all these different things
- 1:02:53like the ogre and the this class and like the fucking poopy, the
- 1:02:55poopy we bought boy class. How do they, how do they get you
- 1:02:58to like, how do they do the levelling experience six months
- 1:03:02from now to get people to incentivize them to level so
- 1:03:04that there are still people available to play dungeons with?
- 1:03:06Don't. That's why they're waiting for
- 1:03:08it and makes perfect sense. They also want to see if it's a
- 1:03:10success. What if this flops?
- 1:03:11It probably won't, but what if it flops?
- 1:03:12Why would they invest so much time, energy and effort into it?
- 1:03:15The strategy makes perfect sense.
- 1:03:16They're optimizing the release strategy for long term success
- 1:03:19of this game. That's what it's about.
- 1:03:22Like you got like you guys might think that I'm jerking off the
- 1:03:24company I want. Like I it makes sense to me to
- 1:03:27have longevity in their game. I usually make more like I'm
- 1:03:30going to hit Max level and maybe I'll get bored and want to re
- 1:03:32roll. We're going to play by myself.
- 1:03:38Do you understand what are the difference between orcs and
- 1:03:40ogres? Ogres are much bigger.
- 1:03:42They are much larger, bigger wieners.
- 1:03:45But instead, you decided to, for whatever reason, completely
- 1:03:50changed the you're sitting there going on stage before you
- 1:03:54announce anything. Like Holly's up there talking
- 1:03:56about putting the war back in Warcraft.
- 1:03:58Oh, we've heard your feedback. And you know, the world is the
- 1:04:01main character and we understand.
- 1:04:03Like, we've been listening. And then they play the cinematic
- 1:04:06and you got this like this childlike silly, like the the
- 1:04:14damn bear is smiling. And I didn't even notice he was
- 1:04:17smiling in this shot. He got this silly thing that
- 1:04:20looks nothing like classic Wow. Then after that, one of your big
- 1:04:24surprises is like, oh, you've got just reskin blood elves and
- 1:04:27then you're going to charge everybody 30 bucks for it.
- 1:04:29You don't have to pay for it. So not everybody will get
- 1:04:31charged for it. Bro.
- 1:04:33I don't know, man. I feel like again, this is and I
- 1:04:36think this is the big difference between myself and other
- 1:04:38influencers or whatever the fuck you want to call them.
- 1:04:40And I'm trying to jerk. I'm not trying to jerk myself
- 1:04:41off here. I'll do that later.
- 1:04:43Probably not. I did it before I got on the
- 1:04:45stream. But anyway, is that like I
- 1:04:47understand that not everything is made for me, That's it.
- 1:04:51And like I understand the optics.
- 1:04:53I understand what they need to do to be successful in the
- 1:04:55future. These people just want
- 1:04:56everything that they think that they want immediately without
- 1:04:58understanding the potential repercussions.
- 1:05:00You know what you think that they would learn after watching
- 1:05:02Obsession? He wished for Nikki to love her,
- 1:05:05him, whatever. So it makes sense why they would
- 1:05:09take their time. You've got an understanding of,
- 1:05:11like, the different player bases and people's, you know, how they
- 1:05:14play games. Yeah.
- 1:05:16They should make a minion class. I'd love that.
- 1:05:18Yeah. He's so worked up about it.
- 1:05:27And it's so. And, you know, he doesn't really
- 1:05:28care that much. Like he's probably like, yeah, I
- 1:05:30wish they did this, but he's like, let's fucking ruin the
- 1:05:32fucking trailer for me. All they had to do to make a
- 1:05:34successful game is is everything.
- 1:05:37And like he everything he names they've already done except for
- 1:05:39this one thing. But I went, what happened?
- 1:05:41If they added that one thing, would he have another problem
- 1:05:43with something else, you know? It was such an easy when
- 1:05:47Blizzard's Classic Plus was never going to have as much
- 1:05:50content in it as like Ascension Wow or Turtle Wow or whatever.
- 1:05:53We all. Why the fuck would it have that
- 1:05:54much content when it comes to release?
- 1:05:56Like who cares what? Knew that, you know, we could be
- 1:05:58forgiving. You know, it's a new project for
- 1:06:00Blizzard. They got to start somewhere,
- 1:06:01just like, you know, this private service did.
- 1:06:03Now they started somewhere too, and we understood that all you
- 1:06:06had to do was the bare minimum new zone.
- 1:06:09The bare minimum. He's about to ask for a
- 1:06:11tremendous amount. New dungeons, new rates, and
- 1:06:14then just give us one big surprise, you know, not adding
- 1:06:16an EMB shader to classic Wow. OK, cool.
- 1:06:20Like I play with those things on Skyrim all the time, like you
- 1:06:23know, the God rays and whatnot. Great.
- 1:06:25You put a shader in classic Wow, that's not a big surprise.
- 1:06:29That's not. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- 1:06:31You know, you guys remember that simple little changes sometimes
- 1:06:34can be very, very beneficial. Anyone that's installed a Skyrim
- 1:06:38Lighting mod is not going to be impressed by that you got.
- 1:06:41Like that's what hey, make it entirely new elf aesthetic.
- 1:06:44Like I know they need to add they need to add another elf
- 1:06:47that's available for both factions in order to incentivize
- 1:06:50people more people playing the game and playing horror.
- 1:06:52This is another thing. And he's not and he doesn't
- 1:06:53think he's not thinking about this.
- 1:06:55He's not thinking in like a meaningful capacity about this
- 1:06:58and and in any capacity. OK, like I said, there was an
- 1:07:01issue with the distribution of people playing certain races in
- 1:07:08Classic Wow. Again, part of them is going to
- 1:07:10be the racial skills of 1000%. Part of them's the racials.
- 1:07:14Some people didn't really understand the racial, so I
- 1:07:16don't know how like tremendous that is, but part of them's the
- 1:07:19racials. Like in Classic Wow, humans had
- 1:07:21like better hits, like better hit with like the I think it was
- 1:07:23bases and fucking swords, which is insane.
- 1:07:28So you would have like a higher chance of wanting to play a
- 1:07:30human because it makes it easier to hit cap if you're playing
- 1:07:32like a warrior or something. It's like very it's very good
- 1:07:34and I understand all that stuff. But people also just I don't
- 1:07:38think that the fucking night elf nowadays that doesn't exist.
- 1:07:41And I don't think that like night owls have a magical
- 1:07:43special fucking racial or blood elves.
- 1:07:45It's just that they're night owls and blood elves.
- 1:07:46They look cool. People like the visuals, right?
- 1:07:49And so like they want to make sure you can play an elf even if
- 1:07:52you're on the Horde. They don't want a massive issue
- 1:07:54because this is one of the things that they have a problem
- 1:07:55with. They're doing one massive
- 1:07:56server. So if you're, if you're doing
- 1:07:58PvP, you want to have like a 5050 ish server instead of it
- 1:08:02being like so lopsided. So what's the, what do you do?
- 1:08:05What do you do? You make sure that both sides
- 1:08:08have elves. That's it.
- 1:08:11And since it's a $30 elf, you can have it on both sides.
- 1:08:16So you get that one on both sides.
- 1:08:17It all makes sense. But there are so many different
- 1:08:19things that this guy is not considering whatsoever that like
- 1:08:23he just is not going to be able to have a fair and balanced
- 1:08:26opinion because his entire, his entire thought process is me,
- 1:08:29me, me, me, me. What do I specifically want?
- 1:08:31Like without thinking of the without thinking of like what's
- 1:08:36going on in the surrounding aspects of it.
- 1:08:38That's a problem. Like you need to have an
- 1:08:40understanding of like the different things that are going
- 1:08:42on. You need to understand the
- 1:08:44sidelines of the conversation. How?
- 1:08:45To do something more impressive. New race, new class.
- 1:08:47It couldn't even do that like you did, but you couldn't even
- 1:08:50do it right anyway. This guy was going to complain
- 1:08:53regardless so it doesn't really. Matter It is the end of day one
- 1:08:56of BlizzCon. I'll be I, I got a friend coming
- 1:08:59over from the United Kingdom tomorrow, so I don't think I'm
- 1:09:01going to be able to watch BlizzCon Day 2.
- 1:09:03Yeah, it's like typical anti woke babbling.
- 1:09:05I don't think this guy is like an explicitly anti fuck
- 1:09:07explicitly anti woke or anything, but like obviously the
- 1:09:10the fucking brain rot from these people.
- 1:09:12Like the asthma goal, asthma gold like fucking brain routed
- 1:09:14and like destroy these guys fucking ability to think and
- 1:09:17process information. Obviously that's what that's
- 1:09:20what I think happened. Like he's destroyed the these
- 1:09:23people feel too comfortable being like very selfish and like
- 1:09:26not understanding and like they, they don't, they're not even
- 1:09:28selfish correctly. Like I guess I'm selfish too,
- 1:09:29but I understand the optics or I understand like the the
- 1:09:32manifestation of the situation. So I understand why they're
- 1:09:34making certain decisions for the overall health of the game.
- 1:09:36They don't get it, but just don't.
- 1:09:38They don't understand. It I will stay up to speed with
- 1:09:40things and I'll probably be away for a week, just a heads up, but
- 1:09:44I'll be making content as soon as possible.
- 1:09:46I'll be talking about Blizzard and I'm going to actually be
- 1:09:48returning to Twitch streaming after a week.
- 1:09:51I've not streamed in a very long time.
- 1:09:53I've missed you guys. I will be playing Warcraft
- 1:09:55forever. I'll check it out.
- 1:09:57I mean, it's free, you know, if you got World of Warcraft, like
- 1:09:59you can play it. So I'll check it out.
- 1:10:01And you know, actually now I think about it, you know what
- 1:10:04Blizzard could have done, it would have been so easy if they
- 1:10:07wanted to add, like if they really wanted to add, you know,
- 1:10:10a dumb blood elf race to World of Warcraft.
- 1:10:12You know what they should have done?
- 1:10:13I'll tell you, they should have had a new playable race and it
- 1:10:17was the high elves. And what happens is you go
- 1:10:21through an instant starting zone just like.
- 1:10:24I don't know if that would work, Correct me if I'm wrong.
- 1:10:28High elves hate humans because humans used to like enslave
- 1:10:31them. So why would the high elves play
- 1:10:36with the Alliance? I might, I might.
- 1:10:39I think I'm right about that. I'm pretty sure they did that.
- 1:10:42So. You know, in miss of Pandaria
- 1:10:45with the Pandarin, you know, it's a neutral faction and stuff
- 1:10:48and you know, you go through this quest line it you know,
- 1:10:51quote the loss has been ravaged by the scourge, everything has
- 1:10:55been destroyed and two ideologies.
- 1:10:57And why? And then also didn't the fucking
- 1:10:59didn't the trolls hate high elves?
- 1:11:00Didn't they have constant fights?
- 1:11:02So why would they join the horde?
- 1:11:05Does this make any? Sense have appeared because the
- 1:11:07blood elves, you know, they're addicted to magic.
- 1:11:09The sun well has been polluted and corrupted.
- 1:11:12Their people are withering and dying out.
- 1:11:14They need their source of magic. And you've got some high elves
- 1:11:17that are turning to the Alliance, you know, their former
- 1:11:20allies and saying, hey, maybe we should reconnect with like
- 1:11:24Stormwind and all these people. And maybe they could like, find
- 1:11:28a way for us to like our magical thirst to be sated or whatever.
- 1:11:33Like maybe our allies can help us some way.
- 1:11:36But then you got other people that are saying.
- 1:11:37Maybe they didn't enslave them, but they felt unappreciated and
- 1:11:40blamed human leadership for border broader damage.
- 1:11:44I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:11:47No. Yeah, that.
- 1:11:48But I I think that everything aside, this makes perfect sense
- 1:11:52now. This makes perfect sense Why?
- 1:11:55Like they did something and this guy has to have a problem with
- 1:11:58it, right? Like what if they just did a
- 1:12:00different ELF? OK, but you have a problem with
- 1:12:03them doing a reskinned elf so it doesn't matter what they fucking
- 1:12:07do, you're going to complain about it.
- 1:12:08That's the proof in the pudding here.
- 1:12:09You're going to complain about it regardless.
- 1:12:11Jesus Christ. Like there's opportunity in the
- 1:12:14Horde, like we should meddle with fell magic and whatnot.
- 1:12:17This is exactly what blood elves did in TBC.
- 1:12:19So you're asked a question. Are you someone that you're
- 1:12:22willing to turn to? More wicked and nefarious
- 1:12:25sources of magic like Fell? Or do you want to turn to the
- 1:12:29Alliance like, you know, your former allies and seek the help
- 1:12:33of the Kirin Tor and the mages of Stormwind and whatnot?
- 1:12:37You make that choice, all right. If you choose Horde, you become
- 1:12:41pretty much a blood elf. You're a high elf, but you got
- 1:12:43the green fell fire eyes and stuff.
- 1:12:46If you choose the Alliance, you remain a high elf with your blue
- 1:12:49eyes. And then what happens is once
- 1:12:51you go to Stormwind or Orgrimmar or whatever, you go through like
- 1:12:55a racial quest. It would have been great if
- 1:12:57Blizzard put racial quests into Classic plus, like, oh, these
- 1:13:01are quests that are unique only to these races, you know?
- 1:13:05And it's like a whole. I guess they could have done
- 1:13:06that and they might have been too busy just adding quests for
- 1:13:11everybody in general, so they make the experience a little
- 1:13:14more streamlined and what if they did this really niche
- 1:13:16thing? They could have I guess.
- 1:13:19I think they only have so much time but OK.
- 1:13:21Chain that you can follow as you level up.
- 1:13:23Like you know, what happens to the High Elves that go to
- 1:13:26Stormwind like seeking a solution to their magical
- 1:13:29addiction? What happens to the High Elves
- 1:13:31that turn to fell magic and end up joining with the Horde
- 1:13:34because their former allies would be a little turned against
- 1:13:37them? What happens?
- 1:13:38What happens with the Forsaken having, you know, just found a
- 1:13:41foothold in Mordor on like you could have had?
- 1:13:43What happens if this game releases a year from now because
- 1:13:46of everything you want to implement?
- 1:13:48Like what? That what happens then I don't
- 1:13:50know what happens if this game doesn't come out for another
- 1:13:52fucking year Like they need to add a new race.
- 1:13:57They need to add they need to add a new race.
- 1:13:59They need to add a new class. So far this is a complaint.
- 1:14:02A brand new race, a brand new class.
- 1:14:04If they do a new race, they need to do animations.
- 1:14:05OK, you have to understand something like let's say they
- 1:14:07decided to add implement like ogres.
- 1:14:10That's a new race. They have to update the model.
- 1:14:11They have to update the rigging. They have to make sure that the
- 1:14:14armor sits on the character comfortably and looks good, all
- 1:14:17right. Now they have to also add racial
- 1:14:18quests for this new race, plus the other eight races that
- 1:14:21already exist. They need to add a new class, so
- 1:14:25they have to balance that class across a bunch of different like
- 1:14:28everything. They have to create new gear for
- 1:14:29the class potentially. All these different things that
- 1:14:31have to happen. They have to talent, they have
- 1:14:33to test it, they have to balance it.
- 1:14:34They have to do all these different things, all this shit
- 1:14:35that has to happen, all these things.
- 1:14:37But also by the way, I'm going to complain if it doesn't come
- 1:14:40out on November 4th, you know what I mean?
- 1:14:42Like, that's what's going to come out.
- 1:14:44You just you just want everything.
- 1:14:45It's like, OK, I yeah, I get it. That'd be cool.
- 1:14:47Like, that's what it is. I'd be cool.
- 1:14:48But like, to him, it's not just that'd be cool.
- 1:14:50Like, that should be like a mandatory for the success of
- 1:14:52this game. Like he thinks that that needs
- 1:14:54to exist for this game to be successful.
- 1:14:56He's not happy with what they're releasing in the game.
- 1:15:00It's not enough to him. Fuck no.
- 1:15:04Just like I'm not having another die here.
- 1:15:06Racial class so it been so cool Anyway that's just an idea off
- 1:15:08the top of my head just a random idea and guess what Blizzard,
- 1:15:11you would have had your dumb elf race, which I think you
- 1:15:13shouldn't do a dumb elf race in my opinion but so.
- 1:15:17I don't understand what the differences between these two
- 1:15:19ELF. Races.
- 1:15:19But it had your dumb elf race, it would have been High Elves,
- 1:15:21which is what people have been wanting for a very, very long
- 1:15:23time. And.
- 1:15:24I mean, it wouldn't have been a huge win, but at least it would
- 1:15:27have been somewhat. Of a win.
- 1:15:28Well, the High Elves turned to Blood Elves, so they got that.
- 1:15:30What? That's all I got from the
- 1:15:31classic plus thing, man. Like, we'll see what the
- 1:15:33gameplay is like once we're actually.
- 1:15:35About not this guy. This needs to die.
- 1:15:36I'm getting fucking. I'm getting absolutely rocked
- 1:15:38right now. We'll hop in and play it because
- 1:15:40obviously a cinematic isn't going to determine how good or
- 1:15:42bad the gameplay is, but I don't know, man.
- 1:15:45It was a bit disappointing to say the least, and I guess
- 1:15:49we'll. You just ranted for 26 minutes,
- 1:15:5122 seconds, but how bad do you think the game's going to be?
- 1:15:52And now you're ending with like, Nah, I don't think it's a big
- 1:15:54deal. Like, OK, cool stuff, man.
- 1:15:55Like definitely definitely authentic.
- 1:15:57We'll see where it's going to go from here.
- 1:15:59All right, cool stuff. Perfect timing.
- 1:16:00I lost my game is what it is.