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Trump in China and the Strait of Hormuz · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's 6 Eastern, 3 o'clock Pacific, from coast to coast
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  Speaker 1: and around the world.
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  Speaker 2: The Democratic brand right now has about the appeal with
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  Speaker 2: the American voter as the Cracker Barrel rebrand has.
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  Speaker 1: From America Out Loud Talk Radio, it's time for Truth
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  Speaker 1: Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Speaker 3: President Donald Trump is in China to meet with Xi. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: the negotiation in Iran is going nowhere. And there were
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  Speaker 3: some fireworks on Capitol Hill on Tuesday. I'm Booker. This
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  Speaker 3: is The Truth Be Told. Thank you so much for
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  Speaker 3: joining us tonight and every night. Or if you found
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  Speaker 3: us later on the podcast, thank you very much for
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  Speaker 3: doing that. It's great to have you. Before I get
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  Speaker 3: into the meat of this first segment, I want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about gerrymandering real quick because there have been some
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  Speaker 3: developments with that. We know that Texas changed their maps.
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  Speaker 3: Florida did. Tennessee followed Texas. Louisiana and Alabama are coming.
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  Speaker 3: The Supreme Court made a decision this week that Alabama
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  Speaker 3: could go forward with their gerrymandering attempt there in the
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  Speaker 3: southern state. Now, to the east of there, in South Carolina,
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  Speaker 3: they have decided on their own that they will not
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina was another one of those states that said
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  Speaker 3: they were going to gerrymander to pick up another Republican seat,
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  Speaker 3: but they have now decided in their own assembly, General Assembly,
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  Speaker 3: that they will not do that. They're not going to
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  Speaker 3: take that vote. So it's unfortunate for Republicans there, but
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  Speaker 3: the Democrats get a little win out of South Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: That was one seat. In total, I believe the net
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  Speaker 3: is going to be somewhere between seven and ten Republican
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  Speaker 3: pickups from the gerrymander. But don't forget, that it is
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  Speaker 3: a net because California, Illinois, those states had already gerrymandered
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  Speaker 3: in the last year, in between the census. Typically, this
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  Speaker 3: was done every 10 years. Now they're just going to
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  Speaker 3: do it depending on who has power in the statehouse.
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  Speaker 3: Another reason for you to get out and vote in
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  Speaker 3: primaries and in general elections, because the statehouse is very important,
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  Speaker 3: and you're seeing why when it comes to gerrymandering. Well,
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  Speaker 3: President Donald Trump is in China right now. He is
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  Speaker 3: meeting with President Xi of China. And the meeting marks
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  Speaker 3: the first state visit to China since Donald Trump went
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  Speaker 3: in 2017, almost 10 years ago. And between China and
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  Speaker 3: America right now, there have been a lot of news stories.
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  Speaker 3: You have everything going on from the tariffs and the trade.
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  Speaker 3: all of that going on. And that's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a big subject here that Donald Trump is going to
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  Speaker 3: take on with Xi as they both look to come
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  Speaker 3: to some sort of agreement on trade. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: the inflation report came out and it was high. It
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  Speaker 3: was 3.8%. And prior to the Iranian war, it had
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  Speaker 3: been at about 1.7%. 3.8 is high. And that is
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  Speaker 3: a result of the higher gas prices. When those prices
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  Speaker 3: go up, Diesel goes up. Everything that we buy in
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  Speaker 3: stores is going to have to go up because of
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  Speaker 3: that price increase. So we're starting to feel that. And
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  Speaker 3: that's another reason why Donald Trump has to figure out
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  Speaker 3: a way to end this Iranian war. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: that here in a few minutes. But before we do,
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  Speaker 3: let's stay here in China and some things they're going
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  Speaker 3: to talk about. They're going to talk about Taiwan and
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  Speaker 3: whether China will reunify, as they call it. They say
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  Speaker 3: we're going to reunify with Taiwan. If you remember, it
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  Speaker 3: was Xi that told that directly to President Joe Biden
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  Speaker 3: back in February of 2024, that we will reunify with Taiwan.
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  Speaker 3: And I really thought that it would have come already.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that they were going to attempt that back
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  Speaker 3: in 2021, 22, when Joe Biden first came into office.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't happen then, and now who knows whether that
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  Speaker 3: will happen. Taiwan is very important because of semiconductors that
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  Speaker 3: are needed for artificial intelligence and other technology in this
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  Speaker 3: 21st century arms race. Other things that Xi and Trump
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  Speaker 3: are going to discuss... Is America in this Iranian war?
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  Speaker 3: China and Iran have shared a close economic, strategic, diplomatic,
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  Speaker 3: and security relationship. And Secretary of State Marco Rubio told
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  Speaker 3: reporters last week that he hoped China would persuade Iran
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  Speaker 3: to ease up on the straightforward moves. Quote, he said, quote,
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  Speaker 3: I hope the Chinese tell them what he needs to
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  Speaker 3: be told, Rubio said during a White House briefing referring
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  Speaker 3: to Iranian foreign minister Arachi. Quote, is that what you
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  Speaker 3: are doing in the Strait is causing you to be
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  Speaker 3: globally isolated. You're the bad guy in this, unquote. China,
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  Speaker 3: the largest buyer of Iranian oil, they've been hit pretty
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  Speaker 3: hard because of the Strait of Hormuz being closed. America
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  Speaker 3: is not really affected. We have our own oil. China
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  Speaker 3: needs a lot of it. Trump also said in an
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  Speaker 3: Oval Office meeting on Monday that Iran told him that
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  Speaker 3: only the U.S. and China were capable of retrieving Iran's uranium.
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  Speaker 3: And that is the important part, the sticking part of
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  Speaker 3: all the negotiations going on in Iran. And that is
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  Speaker 3: being done by the mediator of that, which is the
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  Speaker 3: country of Pakistan. I mentioned some fireworks on Capitol Hill.
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham was there questioning Pete Hegseth
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  Speaker 3: and also General Raising Kane, Dan Kane, General Dan Kane
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  Speaker 3: on Tuesday. Here's a little bit of that. Pakistan.
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  Speaker 4: Are you aware of reports that Pakistan are allowing their
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  Speaker 4: bases to be used to park Iranian aircraft, General Kane?
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  Speaker 3: Sir, I've seen one report on that. Was it accurate? Sir,
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  Speaker 3: I think based on the variety of classification matters.
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  Speaker 4: Let me just say, do you agree if it is accurate,
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  Speaker 4: that is sort of inconsistent with being a peace mediator?
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  Speaker 5: Sir, I wouldn't want to comment on that based on
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  Speaker 5: the ongoing negotiations.
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  Speaker 3: Based on the ongoing negotiations, which are going to go nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: the hard lines in the sand here, the Iranians say
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  Speaker 3: we're never giving up our right. They call it a
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  Speaker 3: right to make nuclear weapons and enrich uranium. On the
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  Speaker 3: other hand, president Donald Trump says, we're not going to
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  Speaker 3: do anything until you get rid of all of that capability.
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  Speaker 3: We get your uranium and it's no, it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to go anywhere. It doesn't really matter who mediates. And
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  Speaker 3: really Lindsey Graham is a war hawk. He is trying to, uh,
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  Speaker 3: He's trying to create the war again. He's trying to
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  Speaker 3: get Donald Trump to drop bombs on Iran. And really,
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump is looking for a way out of this himself.
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  Speaker 3: As I mentioned, the inflation is up. Gas prices are
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  Speaker 3: way up. None of that is going to help a midterm,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not helping the American people. And I really
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  Speaker 3: believe that Donald Trump wants to try to end this.
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  Speaker 3: He wants it to end. He's just looking for a
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  Speaker 3: way to do that. Here's a little more from Senator
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  Speaker 3: Lindsey Graham, this time with Pete Hexeth.
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  Speaker 4: Secretary Hexeth. If the mediator is allowing reconnaissance aircraft in
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  Speaker 4: Iran to be parked in Pakistani airbases, do you think
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  Speaker 4: that's consistent with being a fair mediator?
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  Speaker 1: Again, I wouldn't want to get in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: these negotiations. Well, I do.
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  Speaker 4: I want to get in the middle of these negotiations.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he does.
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  Speaker 4: I don't trust Pakistan as far as I can throw them.
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  Speaker 4: If they actually do have Iranian aircraft parked in Pakistan
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  Speaker 4: bases to protect Iranian military assets, that tells me we
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  Speaker 4: should be looking maybe for somebody else to mediate.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, who would you suggest, Lindsey Graham, who would you
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  Speaker 3: suggest mediate for this peace deal that is going nowhere?
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  Speaker 3: Is Donald Trump going to have to start blowing them
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  Speaker 3: up and wiping them off the face of the earth,
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  Speaker 3: as he said? Or is there some other way that
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  Speaker 3: America can get out of what is going on in Iran?
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  Speaker 3: What about Kash Patel? He's the director of the FBI.
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  Speaker 3: He was on Capitol Hill. He was facing questioning about
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  Speaker 3: his history of drinking, of drinking. There was a story
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  Speaker 3: in The Atlantic, I don't know, a month and a
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  Speaker 3: half ago. about Cash Patel drinking too much, drinking on
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  Speaker 3: the job, falling asleep. People can't find him. And it
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  Speaker 3: was discredited pretty quickly. But Senator Van Hollen of Maryland,
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  Speaker 3: he brought up that line of questioning. And just to
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  Speaker 3: remind you who this senator is, he is the senator
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  Speaker 3: that had margaritas. with the Maryland dad, Abrego Garcia, the
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  Speaker 3: Maryland dad that was deported. And then everybody in the
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  Speaker 3: country went nuts about Abrego Garcia. By the way, have
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  Speaker 3: you heard anything about him lately? And that's the way
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  Speaker 3: politics works. Everybody gets blown up about something right now,
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  Speaker 3: and then you never hear about it again. And who
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  Speaker 3: knows what happened to the story or if anything was
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  Speaker 3: actually resolved. Was there a solution to the problem? But
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  Speaker 3: here we go with Senator Van Hollen of Maryland.
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  Speaker 6: Multiple reports, including reporting by The Atlantic, have alleged episodes
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  Speaker 6: of excessive drinking.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, this Atlantic report, as he says,
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  Speaker 3: multiple reports, that just means that the one source for
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  Speaker 3: this story was The Atlantic. End of story. Period. End
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  Speaker 3: of it. Now, other sources picked up The Atlantic story
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  Speaker 3: and reported what The Atlantic reported. There are multiple sources
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  Speaker 3: of this It came from one piece, and that was
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  Speaker 3: a hit piece in the Atlantic.
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  Speaker 6: Explained absences and behavior that concern current and former FBI
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  Speaker 6: and DOJ officials. You have publicly denied those allegations and
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  Speaker 6: filed a defamation lawsuit. So today, as you testify before Congress,
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  Speaker 6: is it your testimony that those allegations are categorically false?
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  Speaker 7: Unequivocally categorically false.
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  Speaker 6: So there's... have been no occasions during your tenure when
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  Speaker 6: FBI personnel were unable to promptly reach you?
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 7: You can ask my entire workforce. They hear from me
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  Speaker 7: at every single hour of the day, as do these
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  Speaker 7: great gentlemen here, as do the men and women of
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  Speaker 7: the interagency in state and local law enforcement and the
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  Speaker 7: White House.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Van Hollen is not going to stop because he
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  Speaker 3: is trying to set up a perjury case. If you
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  Speaker 3: listen to him ask these questions, he thinks he knows
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  Speaker 3: something about Patel that Patel is not going to agree to.
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  Speaker 3: So he thinks he's getting Patel to lie here. That's
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  Speaker 3: where this is going eventually. He's hoping that when the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats have control and power again, he can do a
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  Speaker 3: criminal referral. for Kash Patel, but that's where this line
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  Speaker 3: of questioning is coming from.
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  Speaker 6: And so there have been no occasions when your security
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  Speaker 6: detail had difficulty waking or locating you, is that right?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's a total farce.
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  Speaker 7: I don't even know where you get this stuff, but
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  Speaker 7: it doesn't make it credible because you say so.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying it, Director Patel. It's been written and documented.
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  Speaker 3: You are literally saying it.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm saying that these are reports, Director Patel. Unlike
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  Speaker 2: your baseless reports... The only.
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  Speaker 7: Person that was slinging margaritas in El Salvador on the
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  Speaker 7: taxpayer dollar with a convicted gang-banging rapist was you.
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  Speaker 2: The only person that ran up a $ 7, 000 bar tab.
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  Speaker 1: In Washington, D.C.
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  Speaker 8: At the lobby of the car was you.
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  Speaker 2: So the only individual in this room that has been.
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  Speaker 7: Drinking on taxpayer dime during the day is you.
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  Speaker 6: Director Patel, come on. These are serious allegations that were
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  Speaker 6: made against you.
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  Speaker 8: Allegations are false. You drinking margaritas with a gangbanger.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, this goes to show you running a $ 7, 000 bar
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  Speaker 2: tab at the lobby bar has been filed by your
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  Speaker 2: own office.
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  Speaker 6: This goes to show.
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  Speaker 8: She's drinking during the day. That's you.
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  Speaker 3: And Van Hollen later on X actually confirmed that $ 7, 000
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  Speaker 3: that Cash Patel was talking about. It was for a party,
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  Speaker 3: he said. It was for catering for alcohol and food
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  Speaker 3: for a party that he threw. $ 7, 000 tab there. That
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  Speaker 3: would be your taxpayer money, by the way. Here's one
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  Speaker 3: more from that exchange.
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  Speaker 8: Not lied to Congress?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't ask you that.
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  Speaker 8: Not lied to Congress is you?
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  Speaker 4: Do you?
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  Speaker 6: I'm not testifying here, sir, and I don't lie.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe the next time you run up a $ 7, 000 bar tab,
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  Speaker 7: we can talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, there you go. Lying again, you suggested.
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  Speaker 8: In the FPC report, I'll post it right now.
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  Speaker 1: You suggested it was public.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't public money, as you know. That was for
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  Speaker 2: a 50-member staff party.
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  Speaker 8: So it was a $ 7, 000 bar tab.
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  Speaker 1: Mr. Patel, I'm glad.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just say in closing, Mr. Chairman. And Van Hollen,
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  Speaker 3: as I said, later confirmed that he did spend $ 7, 000
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  Speaker 3: for 50 people. Interesting. Let's go back to Pete Hegseth
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  Speaker 3: and his questioning on Tuesday. This is Democrat Senator Chris
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  Speaker 3: Coons of Delaware.
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  Speaker 9: You've achieved a series of tactical successes, but are on
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  Speaker 9: the verge of a strategic loss because we are now negotiating.
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  Speaker 3: Just think it's so foolish.
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  Speaker 9: Here we are in a committee in the United States Senate,
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  Speaker 9: 74 days in, and you're talking about strategic loss.
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  Speaker 3: They're talking about what's going on in Iran right now,
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  Speaker 3: 75 days roughly into this conflict. And Coons is saying
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  Speaker 3: you're losing. You had a great military success, but strategically
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  Speaker 3: you have lost. Do you agree to that? And Hegseth
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  Speaker 3: says no.
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  Speaker 9: We have the ability to defeat a 47-year threat of
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  Speaker 9: a pursuit of a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 3: We have more leverage than we've ever had. We've had
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  Speaker 3: incredible battlefield successes. And you're talking about a strategic loss? Mr.
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  Speaker 9: Secretary.
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  Speaker 10: Disingenuous questions.
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  Speaker 8: Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Secretary.
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  Speaker 9: This is how you undercut efforts that could otherwise and
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  Speaker 9: are otherwise being very effective. I am not your enemy, sir.
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  Speaker 9: I am not your adversary. I share your goal of
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  Speaker 9: preventing Iran from ever having a usable nuclear weapon. To
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  Speaker 9: finish my sentence, control of the Strait of Hormuz, the
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  Speaker 9: ability to degrade our partners and allies' gas and oil
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  Speaker 9: production capabilities through cheap drones, the ability to harass and
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  Speaker 9: harry commercial shipping remains in Iran's hands. And their demands
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  Speaker 9: are that we recognize sovereignty for them over the Strait
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  Speaker 9: of Hormuz, which I believe our president's rejected, you've rejected,
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  Speaker 9: I reject. But my question remains, how do we reopen
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  Speaker 9: the Strait of Hormuz to commercial shipping? If we control it,
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  Speaker 9: how do we reopen it? And your average American is
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  Speaker 9: seeing this at the gas pump every single day.
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  Speaker 3: And he's absolutely right there. The Democrat senator from Delaware
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  Speaker 3: asks a legitimate question. And I think that also is
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  Speaker 3: what Donald Trump is going to be talking to Chairman
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  Speaker 3: Xi about in China. We started the hour that way
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  Speaker 3: with one of the five things that Donald Trump will
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  Speaker 3: be discussing there in China. And that's one of them.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe China can help. Donald Trump said before he left
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  Speaker 3: from the White House on Tuesday that we don't need
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  Speaker 3: their help. I'm not going to ask for their help.
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  Speaker 3: But however, if America can somehow sell China the oil
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  Speaker 3: that they need, then maybe that solves that problem altogether.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go back to inflation. I mentioned that
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  Speaker 3: inflation was up last month to 3.8%. Core inflation, which
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  Speaker 3: is really the tell because that's looking out into the future,
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  Speaker 3: it was only at 2.8%. So this little energy hit
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  Speaker 3: that is happening because of the Strait of Hormuz to
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  Speaker 3: the inflation is not going to be long lasting. This
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  Speaker 3: ends when this ends in Iran. And the prices are
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  Speaker 3: going to come back down. You have United Arab Emirates
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  Speaker 3: and Saudi Arabia running offensive military tactics and bombing inside
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  Speaker 3: of Iran now. And you have both of those countries
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of oil sitting on the sidelines. And
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  Speaker 3: when this comes to a conclusion, hopefully very soon, the
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  Speaker 3: prices on everything are going to come down quickly. I've
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  Speaker 3: said that for a long time. Matt Palumbo and I,
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  Speaker 3: we discussed it on Monday nights, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: stick to that. That's what will happen eventually. Good news
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  Speaker 3: from the economy. The April jobs numbers, the early numbers
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  Speaker 3: came out. That came out last Friday, and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people are talking about this. 115,000 new American jobs
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  Speaker 3: were created. Government jobs lost. 8,000 government jobs lost. So
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  Speaker 3: in reality, that number was even higher if you take
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  Speaker 3: away that negative government job number of 8,000. 115,000 jobs created.
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  Speaker 3: Last month, that's good news for the economy. That core
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  Speaker 3: inflation at 2.8, it's up just a tick, but not
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  Speaker 3: a lot. That also is good news if you look forward.
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  Speaker 3: If only now we can get this Iran conflict over with,
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  Speaker 3: things are going to start looking good for the American
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  Speaker 3: people and their checkbook at their kitchen table before we
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  Speaker 3: get to this midterm coming up in November.
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  Speaker 5: Thank him when it's falling, cause it brings a grain
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  Speaker 5: and a little bit of money. We put it back
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  Speaker 5: in a plate, I guess that's why they call it
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  Speaker 5: God's country.
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  Speaker 3: something a little bit different, something that I don't deal
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: with a lot on this program. I have some, but
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: this is going to be an interesting conversation. We have
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Rick Hill with us. We have Rick Hill with us now,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: and Rick is someone that was in serious trouble medically,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: and this was 50 years ago. But you know what?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: He didn't go through regular medicine. He decided to do
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: a holistic approach. And somehow, some way that worked. And
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: now for all of these years, he's been giving his
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: life to try to help people like you and other people.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: You know, cancer is something that absolutely touches every one
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: of our lives. And that's what we're going to have
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: this conversation about. Rick, welcome to the program. So good
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: to have you. And I'm glad you're joining us.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: Thank you, Booker. I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to this.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Well, let's go back 50 years ago. I think that's
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: where we start with your story, don't we? What was it, 1974?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And you have stage three carcinoma. It didn't look good
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: for you. You got a letter even.
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, this is just how handsome I was back then.
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: That's me with the gastro tube after eight and a
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: half hours of surgery. And they put me on morphine.
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: I was down to 120 pounds. and the chemotherapist came
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: in for the chat you know that the arm up
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: on the thing on the edge of the bed sure
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: just just to tell me how the cow's gonna eat
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: the cabbage and he said well You know, good thing
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: we asked you to bring your family into town a
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: week ago. We found cancer. We operate on your neck
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: up here. We found it in the lymphatic system. We
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: operate on the top of your feet. And when I'm
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: taking a shower every day, I look down and there
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: it is, this crazy scar, top of my feet, both
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: of them. And he said, we found cancer there too.
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: So as I measure real estate, you pretty much are
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: head to toe. And so we've got chemo, which will
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: start on Monday. Today is Friday. Take the weekend off.
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: I'm going to go home and relax. And he said,
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: we'll see you back here Monday. So that afternoon I
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: drove home and I got a, now, now here, if
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: I would, Booker, if I was going to do a screenplay,
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: here's act one, and here's the inciting incident. And unlike
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: the movies, this incident is not a bomb going off,
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: not diving off a high building, et cetera. This is
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: a 10-cent stamped letter that I got in the mail
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: that day on the Friday. Brought it to me. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: opened it. and read it. It said, dear Rick, if
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: you want to live, you're going to have to leave
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: the Mayo Clinic. John. Now, most rational people would have
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: torn that letter up, thrown it in the trash, and yelled,
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: mind your own business.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Sure. Why wouldn't you?
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: I don't know why it got everything shut off, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: that thing is just bugging me to death today.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I definitely would have thrown it away. I would have
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: put it in the trash, and I would have gone
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: back to Mayo Clinic on Monday morning.
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: Well, this guy's not a doctor, okay? Let's start there.
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: So I knew him. I was in seminary, and he
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: would come. He was a Baptist pastor. He'd speak in chapel.
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: But not your regular Baptist pastor. No. This guy was
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: a John Birch Society member.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: And if you don't know what that is, think about MAGA,
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: but on steroids, right? Real conservative. And he'd talk about
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: Jesus for the first 15 minutes of his sermon, and
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: he'd talk about getting out of the U.N.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: The last 15 minutes. I agree with John, by the way.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: In fact, let's not get out of the U.N., let's
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: get rid of the U.N., but keep going with your
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: letter from John.
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I agree with him too now, by the by,
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: but not them. I was one of the illumined ones.
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: So me and the other boys that sit in the
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: back of chapel, and I go, all right, he's going
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: to get to the UN pretty quick. Are you ready?
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: It's coming. There it is. This guy would talk about
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: the UN and other things, Jekyll Island and all that
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: kind of thing. So I get this letter from him,
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: and he puts his phone number at the bottom. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: call him up. I said, John, if you weren't a
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: Baptist pastor, I'd ask you what you're smoking, and then
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: ask you if I could have some. What do you
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: mean leave the Mayo Clinic? It is the citadel of
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: modern medicine. He said, I agree. Well, why would I leave?
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: Where am I going to go? It's the best in
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: the world. He said, I agree it is the citadel
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: of modern medicine and surgery, but I don't think they
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: know squat about the human immune system. Oh, and where
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: did you learn this, John? At Central Seminary? I'm really
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: giving him a bad time. And he says, no, I
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: just read a lot and I talk to my friends.
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: And look at it this way, Rick. You're not doing
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: too well, I heard. I said, no. Okay. 120 pounds.
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: I'm on morphine. Seeing the pink elephants. Not my best
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: time of life. He said, I heard that. I knew that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: And he said, there are clinics around the world, maybe
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: some here in the States, but I haven't found out yet.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: And there are. And he said, but I know one
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: that really is getting good results. I said, okay, where
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: do I go? He said, you fly into San Diego.
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: I said, oh, I like San Diego. And then he said, yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: then you get on a bus and you go down
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: to Tijuana. I said, so I'm taking notes, John, help
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: me out. You want me to go to my family
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: and say, I'm leaving the Mayo Clinic, going to go
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: to TJ, huh? And John, what are they going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: do to me in Tijuana? He said, well, they have
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: a natural organic treatment. And what's it made out of
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: if it's natural and organic? He said, are you sitting down? Booker,
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: nothing good comes after that question ever from anybody. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: I said, all right, John, I'm sitting down.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: What?
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: He says, well, it's an extract. from the apricot plant
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: or apricot. Depending on what part of the world you
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: were born in.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I say apricot. What do you say? You say apricot? Okay.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah. And I said, well, here's why you're not thinking.
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: I eat every season when apricots are out in full.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: I eat lots of them. I like them. He said,
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: you're not eating them correctly. I said, you want me
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: to hold it in my left hand when I eat it?
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: What do you want me to do?
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: That is what you should be eating, bud. He said,
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: that's inside the pit. That's an apricot kernel. And it
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: is very high in what's called nitrilicide, which is a
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: bitter kind of amaretto finish. Bakers grind them up, use
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: them in muffins, all that. And I said, oh, man,
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: I can just hear it now if I take this
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: story back. He said, well, I got some phone numbers
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: here if you want to call some people. I said,
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to do that. I'll tell you what
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: I will do. I'll go see my chemotherapist this afternoon
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: and tell him what you told me. Wife takes me over,
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: get an emergency thing, sit down with him. I told
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: him what I just told you.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Okay. And this is Friday afternoon then, is that correct?
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Okay. So you go back to the Mayo Clinic, you
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: sit there with a doctor and you say, I just
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: got a letter from a guy named John from seminary
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: who doesn't like the United Nations and And he's kind
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: of wackadoodle in a lot of different ways. And he
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: tells me, I need apricot. And what did the doctor
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: say to you?
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: Pretty much accurate quotation. I wasn't as nice as I
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: would have told you. And I said, if you were me,
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: what would you do? And he leaned back in his
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: chair like this. And he goes, you know what, Rick?
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: It is warm in Tijuana this time of year.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Interesting answer.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: In other words, I don't think they're going to help you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: You know, whether you're going to shots of tequila.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: He knew they weren't going to help me. And he
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: didn't want to risk a 300,000 K job a year
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: by going run, get out of here. No. Just told
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: me it was warm there. He could say, we were
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: talking about the weather. I said, message delivered. Thank you
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: so much. Got up, went back home. We had dinner,
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: stood up, told my family. what I told you and
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: the chemotherapist. And to a person, they all went like that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: And I looked around the table, look at their friendly face. None.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: My brother, Sam, Sam Hill stood up and he said,
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: you know, Ricky, we always knew you were stupid. We
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: just didn't know how stupid you can be. And I
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: looked at everybody. I thought that's it. I'm sick. I
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: need some help.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: You mentioned your family there a couple of times. Who's there?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Who's your family at that time? Again, this is 1974,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: so you were much younger at that time. You were
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: a young man when this happened. How old were you
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: when this was happening?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: 24.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, so your family would be your brother and your
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: parents and maybe some other siblings?
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: Two brothers, one sister, parents. And my in-laws and my wife.
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: So I get, everybody's kind of silent. My wife is
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: just looking at her shoes.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: The consensus was you're crazy.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: We got my father-in-law, who's a big, burly, owns Caterpillar tractors.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: A piece of straw out of his mouth all day long.
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: And he stood up and he said, I like it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: I'll take him down there and I'll help pay for it. Well,
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: my family looked at their shoes. They didn't want this program.
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: And I said, deal. And two days later, this Detroit
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: greaser with the Fonz hairdo left for Tijuana, Mexico. And
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: I'm telling you, yeah, I went down the rabbit's hole.
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: I didn't know that world. Go ahead.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just going to say, so you're 24
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: years old. You hop on a plane. You do not
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: go to Mayo Clinic to get really the chemotherapy. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: don't know, radiation probably. A lot more drugs are going
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: to be coming your way. You're at stage three. It
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: doesn't look good. Did you feel like you had much
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: of a choice there? Did you feel like, okay, I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: have to go try this because I know my fate
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: if I stay here. What was your mind like at
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: that point?
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: The chemotherapist tipped me off. That man basically, unless I
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: read into it what I wanted to hear, said to me,
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: if you want to go, Then you just go. That's
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: all there is to it. All right. Shut off. Not
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: just the red button. Apologies. So I just felt like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: you know, I do have a theological background. I do
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: love the funny stories in the Bible. And what this
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: sounded like to me was Abraham getting a wife for
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: his daughter or for his son, Isaac.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: And I'll hurry. He sends the camels loaded down with
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: a jewelry dowry, 450 miles across the desert. He says,
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: now when you get there, there's going to be a
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: good looking woman at the well. Well, I don't care
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: how good looking she is. I'm not traveling 450 miles
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: in the desert on the back of a camel. But
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: he gets there. He says, my father Abraham sent me
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: down here. And he would like you to serve the
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: Lord our God as the wife of Isaac. We've got
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: your dowry here loaded on these camels. And when they
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: walk toward her, her eyes are blinking in the reflection
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: of gold. I mean, it was probably worth half a
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: million dollars. And so she looks at the camels. She
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: looks at him, looks at the camels. She goes, deal.
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: Just like my deal.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: And that's the way you felt. You said, okay, deal
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: with your father-in-law. Let's go. Let's get on the plane.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Tijuana.
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: Three things in a row that are really stupid happened
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: to me in one day. The letter, the chemotherapist, my father-in-law.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: You know, I just said, I don't know what I'm doing.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: I'm going.
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: And I went.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: And together, we went down there. First day, we go
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: to a health food store. If they had health food
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: stores in Detroit, I never saw one. And if they
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: had one, I wouldn't have gone in. I go in there,
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: and it's hug tree heaven. All the women are walking
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: around in wrinkled granny dresses, and I'm the only one
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: there wearing underwear. I mean, this place is stone ground.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: And I looked around. What's in the health store in Tijuana, Mexico?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: What's in there?
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: No, no, this was San Diego. I'm sorry.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're in San Diego. Okay.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm still in San Diego. And I didn't recognize
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: most of the food in there. I'd never eaten an avocado.
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: And they were serving little tastes of it. And it
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: looked like diaper stuff. I mean, it was horrible. And
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: these soups that just smelled like herbs and all this stuff.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: And I looked at my father-in-law and I went, I
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: want to go for a burger when this is over.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: And I just said, but here's the lesson. I didn't blend.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: And your listeners don't have to either. I didn't have
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: to believe. I mean, you hear these guys in the seminar,
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: unless you believe. Nope. You really think I thought a
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: little corner clinic in TJ was going to do as
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: well as a Mayo Clinic to help me? I wasn't sure.
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: My wife gets on the plane to say goodbye. Do
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: that back then. I'm crying. She's crying. And I said
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: to her, sweetie, I think it's a one-way ticket. So
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: the next day we go to the clinic and I
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: meet the doctor. He says, I only have one question.
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: Are you willing to do what we asked you to do?
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: And I'm thinking, oh, I don't know you from Adam, doc.
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: I don't know what you do here. He says, well,
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: I'm a real MD. I actually worked at Children's Hospital
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: in Boston. And he said, but I own the clinic
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: that you're in now. And I'm telling you, this stuff
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: is amazing to me. But you have to help. Are
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: you going to change your diet? Are you going to
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: do the healthy things we ask you to do? And
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: are you going to do them for the rest of
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: your life? I'm going to miss beer.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: We're going to continue on with this conversation here in
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: just a minute. We're up against a break, Rick. You're
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: listening to Rick Hill. He survived cancer and you're hearing
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: how he did it. We're going to go with him
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: to Tijuana, Mexico. and continue this conversation that started back
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: in 1974 for Rick Hill. You're going to hear about
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: it next.
• 35:41
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  Speaker 3: Coming up tonight at 7 o'clock Eastern Time, it is
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• 36:50
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• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I'm Booker Scott. Thank you for joining us tonight. We
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: are visiting with Rick Hill. He's telling the story about
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: going to Tijuana, Mexico in 1974. He was down to
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: 120 pounds, stage 3 cancer. He leaves the Mayo Clinic. Rick,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I think we're caught up. Let's keep going with your story.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: All right, from here, it moves pretty fast because we're
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: in act two. In act two, the doctor says, I mean,
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: here's why people don't think it works. It is so simple.
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: It's not complex. First of all, they start giving me
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: these pro-enzymes. Now, what are enzymes? They're designed to digest protein,
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: among other things. You take them with meals. They'll digest
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: the protein you had with your meal, like a steak.
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: If you take them between meals, like I do, at
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock, because I'm an old guy,
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: that's how we take our meds, they digest the protein
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: that may be covering cancer cells. That's how they hide. Now,
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: this isn't my idea. This was the 1920s. A doctor
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: named John Beard, by the way, for your listeners, I'll
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: give them the most scholarly book on all this for free.
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: You don't even have to have a credit card to
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: get it to come to you. You simply log on
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: to myworldwithoutcancer.com, myworldwithoutcancer.com, and we will send you G. Edward
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: Griffin's scholarly treatise on what is Laetrile, what is vitamin B17,
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: and why did our government shut it down? I can't
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: think of a question you can come up with that
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: isn't covered in that really good book. And it's yours
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: for free, a PDF copy, electronic. And it's 300 pages,
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: all right? So they start giving me lots of these enzymes.
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: By the way, you had a lot of them when
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: you were about two months old. Yeah, that's right. You
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: had trophoblast cells in your body, in your mother's pancreas,
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: kicks out this stuff called chymotrypsin to protect you and
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: your mom. And it takes the protein off so your
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: immune system, the mother's immune system, can see what's going
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: on and protect. Well, at 24 years old, where's my mom?
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: Where's my umbilical cord? I don't have it. So I
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: took my umbilical cord, those enzymes, at the clinic. Secondly,
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: there's a backup plan, and it's called B17. You can
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: get it in the pills, and I didn't start taking
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: these for almost a year afterwards. But this, an ampule, laetrile, amygdalin,
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: They just put the needle in there. And then Monday
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: to Thursday, they gave me three grams right here. And
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: then on Friday, they gave me six grams, an amount
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: which our government says will kill any adult.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: So the American government, the American government says that.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: The Mexican government thought, well, it's working for these guys.
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: Let's leave them alone.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned earlier that the doctor said there are
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: some clinics in America back in 1974. You didn't know
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: exactly where those were. Are there clinics now here in
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: America that are doing holistic healing like this for cancer?
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: There really are. In fact, if somebody wanted to get
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: a hold of me, remember, I don't practice medicine. I
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: will never tell your listeners what to do. I will
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: tell them what I did. If they think that's a
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: good idea, I can tell them to get the stuff,
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: where to get the stuff I had. And then if
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: they're in stage three and four, my recommendation is they
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: find a holistic licensed medical doctor to help. And, and,
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: and that's important. I mean, I'm not crazy. Although my
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: family thinks I was, uh, Well, Rick, you.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Said that back then that the American government, the amount
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: that you were using that they were giving you in Tijuana,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: the American government wouldn't allow that. Does the American government
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: allow that now as part of?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: They do, and I'll tell you how. We got smarter.
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: They kind of forgot about it because they drove us
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: so deep underground that we stayed underground. But the guy
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: I work for is named John Richardson. His father was
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: an MD, and he wrote Laetro case histories, 60-some, 62
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: case histories about people who were stage four, did exactly
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: what I did, and got their health back. Well, once
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: that book was published, they came blaring into his offices,
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: guns drawn, arrested him, arrested his nurse, put them both
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: in the hooscow, and took away his medical license for
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: a food product. Why? Because it really worked well. And
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: chemo doesn't work that well.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Pharmaceutical companies don't like that, do they?
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: Ah, they've got a really bad attitude about losing money.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: We've got that going on right now in Washington, D.C., too,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: with RFK Jr. and the CDC, FDA.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: Did you see the The hearing a couple of days ago.
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: Holy cow. They did everything but beat him over the
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: head with a chair.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: All those politicians are getting paid, obviously, from the pharmaceutical companies.
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: Big money. Yeah, he told Pocahontas how much.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: She didn't like that much.
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: So it's just three products. And then they gave me
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: a diet sheet. Then the nurse comes in the next
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: day and goes, today? we are going to start your detox.
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: I said, good. What's a detox? And she's carrying this
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: bag with a hose. And she says, well, did you
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: ever change the water in the radiator of your car?
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: And I said, oh, yeah. I got a 57 Ford,
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: slick tires, first floor shift, handling it. She goes, good.
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: And I said, good? Where does that hose go? I
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: learned what a colonic is. Now, before you throw something
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: at me, Elvis, when he died, they said he had
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: over 50 pounds of undigested matter in his large coat.
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: 50 pounds. And they told me, we want you so
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: clean that you squeak when you walk. Get that poison
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: out of you. Get good nutritious food into you. and
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: give your immune system the ability to see cancer cells
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: and fight cancer cells. That's the program. We sell it
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: at rncstore.com as an adjunct, like high-dose vitamin C, like
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: Myers cocktails for hangovers. In other words, it's a food
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: product just to get you buffed up. And that's how
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: we market it. We don't say that we're doing, now
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: it helped me, but I never told anybody, I'll guarantee
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: you this will work. I've never said those things. So
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: simple program, low cost, government irritated. Just recently, we've come
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: out of the groundwork to help.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Well, Rick, let's go back to you real quick. Let's
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: go to Tijuana. I interrupted you when you were going
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: to get cleaned out. So that was another part of
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: the treatment from there. What happened? I guess diet came
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: into it as well.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: And the diet is real simple too. 80% raw and
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: uncooked fruits and vegetables. You can have some meat as
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: long as it's broiled and organic and you only eat
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: about four ounces of it. Not because meat was cursed
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: by the devil, but because meat is high protein and
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: And you've got a plan for the protein in your body.
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: I did, I should say. And that is you want
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: it gone. So your immune system, the T cells, killer cells, macrophages,
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: they can see the cancer then and they go after it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: Cancer cells want to survive just like every other cell
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: in your body. It's part of the human process. So
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: I'm eating these squishy meals. I'm taking the colonics every
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: few days. I'm hoping no one finds out, not in Detroit.
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: We beat people up for that kind of thing. I'm
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: doing it. Yeah. So that basically is, I mean, I
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: don't want to cut you short and pretend that it
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: was simple when it wasn't, but that was it. I
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: was there three weeks.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: So in three weeks, you were healed. You go back
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: home to Detroit. Do you go back to the Mayo
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Clinic at that point?
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: I did, but let me clear something up. I don't
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: think I was healed. That's why today you heard my
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: alarm go off, and I apologize. But my alarm was
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: to remind me that at 4 o'clock, I'm taking some
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: of these enzymes because I think these cancer cells are probably,
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: you know, the name for them are probably in everybody.
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: And it depends on outside forces, whether they get irritated
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: enough to shut the immune system down. When that happens,
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: now they grow like crazy and we need help. We
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: got to take, we're not an umbilical cord recipient at
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: that point.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: So when you go back to the doctor, do they,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I guess they run tests, they would have to, Are
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: you cancer-free at that point, or is there a longer
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: period of time before you become cancer-free, or did you
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: become cancer-free? I guess that's a bunch of questions there.
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: Well, I had an oncologist measure my tumor markers, cancer markers,
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: and at one point they pronounced me in remission, which
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: incidentally is the most dangerous time in the life of
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: a cancer patient.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Why is that?
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: Because usually they go, well, I dodged that bullet. Good
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: to go, man. And they go back to the Diet
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: Coke and the burgers and the fried foods and the
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: long hours with no sleep, all of the above. And
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: then six months to nine months later, you see them
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: on Facebook going, you got to pray for me. It's back.
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: My liver's full of cancer. It's spreading to my spine.
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: I don't know what to do. Yeah, that never happened
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: to me because I was either didn't want to see Jesus,
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: wasn't in a hurry, or it's not that big. It's
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: not expensive. It's not that big a deal for me
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: to set my alarm and take some of these pills
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: during the day. It's no big deal. So I did
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: go back to the Mayo Clinic to answer your point blank. question.
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: Made an appointment about a year after I'd been to Tijuana. Came,
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: I'm shortening this, but I came through the door and
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: he went and he held his hand up to stop.
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: And so I stopped. I was walking toward his desk
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: and he said, I want you to know before we
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: start this conversation that nothing you did in Tijuana could
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: have had anything to do with this apparent recovery that
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: you've had.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: What was it? Was it Jesus? Is that what he
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: was thinking? Was it a miracle?
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: I asked him because any normal person would go with that.
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: I said, so what do you think happened to me, Doc?
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: I don't look like I did when I was here.
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: Do I? He said, no, no, you sure don't. He said,
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: you had what we call a natural remission. In other words,
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: without provocation, not from us, not from them, your cancer
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: decided to leave your body.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: The doctor was not willing to hear anything that you
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: had done in Tijuana. He didn't want to hear about it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: There had to be another explanation. It couldn't be the
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: things that you did.
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: So I said, well, how come I didn't naturally remit
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: when I was in Tijuana? I was in Rochester longer
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: than I was in Tijuana. And I just got worse
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: and worse and worse here. You said that yourself. And
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: there I got better and better and better. Now, you
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: don't see the correlation. He said, it's absolutely not possible.
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: I said, well, I know Tijuana. I know something about you, Doc.
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: You look like a bright guy, but looks can be deceiving.
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: Because if you were a real healer, you know what
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: you'd say? I don't know. But sit down and tell
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: me what the heck you did. I'll take notes and
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: then I'll do some research because something happened to you.
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: And I said, well, I'm not going to stick around
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: for that. I walked out the door because he wasn't interested.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Just like you did earlier in 1974.
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: That's exactly it. And today, we are no further ahead.
• 51:16
  Speaker 10: None.
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: We still use the same chemos, 5-FU, different kinds. 5-FU
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: is partially owned by the American Cancer Society. Do you
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: think our senators are the only people taking the piece
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: of the pie?
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Of course not. It's a huge... It is a huge
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: financial windfall for hospitals, for doctors. There's a huge market
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: there for cancer treatment.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Billions.
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: Or as our from Vermont would say, billions.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about what you do today to remain healthy,
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: to stay cancer free. You have now retired and retired.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: It's crazy, but you ended up in San Diego where
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: you took that flight to start your journey to Tijuana.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: What do you do now?
• 52:14
  Speaker 8: My kids are here, and I'm working with a company
• 52:17
  Speaker 8: called Richardson Nutritional Center, rnc.com. And we sell these three
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: things and some other things. We even have pop rocks
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: that are infused with B-17. Yeah, I know. We're all crazy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: So those are the three. You can go on there
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: and type in the search bar, Rick, and they'll offer
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: you a special deal for these. And then they'll offer
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: you a free book, which guess who wrote that? I did.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: And the name of that book is Too Young to Die, correct?
• 52:52
  Speaker 8: Look how thick it is. There's a scholar you have
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: on your show today. I mean, it's thin, man. And
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: big print and pictures.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: But here's the deal.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: That's my kind of book.
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to teach people math and science, but
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: I'll tell them stories. I'll make them laugh. I'll make
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: them see the ridiculousness of what we have turned our
• 53:18
  Speaker 8: backs on and in favor of what, you know? And
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: if they order that free book, the big thick 300 pager,
• 53:26
  Speaker 8: and they're willing, and that's on books on tape, I
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: think it's called. So if you're going to take a
• 53:31
  Speaker 8: long trip, at least buy that and kill the time
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: But tell you what, I've never had chemo. I've never
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: had radiation. Look at me. And I've never relapsed in 50,
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: almost 50. October is my 51st year. And you think
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: I haven't been paid a thousand times for the way
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: I've lived? I'm almost 75. I weigh 160 pounds. And
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: I don't take any prescriptions. I'm not doing this. I'm
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: saying I just did what they told me, and now
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: I'm reaping the benefits.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: And here we are 50 years later. We're talking to
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Rick Hall here tonight. Rick, thank you so much for
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: joining us. Give us the website again. The name of
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: his book is Too Young to Die. And give us
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: that Richardson Nutritional Center website one more time before you leave.
• 54:27
  Speaker 8: Thank you, sir. rncstore.com.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: That big book is there as well?
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: That's there, but not for free. If they want to
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: order it online at myworldwithoutcancer.com, we'll send them the PDF,
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: electronic form.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Got it, got it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: If they want the paper book, that one they got
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: to pay about $ 35 for.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Well, Rick, thank you for coming on the program. We're
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: glad you're here 50-plus years later. Congratulations to that. Thank
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: you for telling your story. It's an incredible story. Thank
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: you for being on the program tonight.
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: You're welcome, and thank you for having me, sir.
• 55:04
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