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Golden Tempo’s Derby Win & Cherie DeVaux's Historic Moment · Height Differential

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  Give it to me. All right, y'all ready?
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  Let's do it. Derby week's over.
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  We're here to talk about it. It's the height differential.
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  We got the 66. Neil, how do I remember your
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  height? 5 foot 6.
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  Yep, you got it. The five foot 6 mat is back with
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  us in the four foot 10 Nick. It goes by quick, but man, what
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  a week, what a week. Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean,
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  around here, around around the city of Louisville, it's
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  probably, you know, most of our most of our favorite sports week
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  of the calendar year. I mean, we love our college
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  hoops around here and March Madness is great, but Derby
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  week, when there's something going on Tuesday through
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  Saturday, it's it's it's a blast.
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  So we're going to miss it for the next 360 days.
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  It but like we're there on Tuesday and then we went back on
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  Friday like it was a perfect two day separation to get you back
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  ready. Matt, you were there on Tuesday,
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  did you? Didn't make it back after
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  Tuesday. No, didn't make it back but
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  stayed in Louisville North. Ironically, the past couple
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  years Hannah and I have been out of town for Derby week so it was
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  good to be back around and just being in the city.
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  Definitely a buzz the whole week.
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  But I would say from Tuesday to Saturday, the two of us were
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  pretty much are the three of us were in communication pretty
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  much the whole time via text betting almost every single
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  race. You all, you all hit a couple.
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  I every once in a while I'd hit one.
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  Matt or Neil hit a pick 5. On what day was that?
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  Thursday, Thursday Thursday Pick.
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  Five listen to Christina on FanDuel TV took that home, got
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  him a pick 5. But it was it was a rough, rough
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  week for me. I do.
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  I still do not want to go back and look how many deposits I
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  have in twin Spires to see what my negative.
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  You'll be able to pay that mortgage this month.
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  It's it's going to be tight. It's going to be tight.
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  I need a couple more Louisville Kings games to come in town to
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  give me some extra cash there. You.
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  Go there. You go.
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  Oh. Shit.
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  So, but I think the main thing obviously we need to talk about
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  is what happened on Saturday. Golden Tempo.
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  We talked about it briefly, Neil.
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  Neil was more positive on him than than Matt and I where he
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  actually talked me into bringing him from being a toss to kind of
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  being somebody that can be late in that that try that Super
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  Sherry Devoe wins as a female trainer for the first time.
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  In her name correctly please. Sherry.
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  Sherry Devoe, it's not. Sherry's It's not cherry Coke
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  here. Cherry Devoe.
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  I didn't say Cherry. She made history.
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  She made Cherry. Tov speak on her name.
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  Cherie, maybe you just don't know what to hear.
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  I did not see Terry. I don't know.
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  Her name's not cherry. She's not a fruit.
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  That's what you sounded like. Well, it might have sounded like
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  it's not what I said You. Didn't say Cherie.
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  Cherie Devoe, pretty cool, like watching it and all the females
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  there like how did I not just bet on her?
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  The Ortiz wins back-to-back the Arad and Jose finished first and
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  second. Looking back, all these just
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  seem like so easy to pick out and we picked out zero of them.
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  But just your all's over. All thoughts from the race on
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  Saturday. Yeah, no, I mean, it was an
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  incredible, credible run by by Golden Tempo.
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  And we we talked about it and I was how he was a deep, deep
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  closer. And man, did he come from deep.
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  I mean, he was last the entire way.
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  And then not only that, you know, he he bid his time, saw
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  what everybody else was doing down the stretch and he made the
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  perfect move. He went all the way to the
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  outside and that horse had some gas in the tank and he just ran
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  everybody down. So it was a perfect ride.
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  I think by Jose Ortiz, who we mentioned, you know, with all
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  the the jockey changes and all these horses, Jose Ortiz is the
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  only one that's ever ridden Golden Tempo.
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  So the familiarity with that horse and the familiar between
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  the jockey and the trainer, I think it was it.
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  It played into their favor and it was just an absolute great
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  race. Yeah, I mean, personally,
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  Ocelli's dead to me because I, I, I'm going to say this.
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  If he doesn't do that bump on the final stretch, that gets a
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  do, that gets commandment, that gets Chief Wallaby, I think
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  Wallaby's winning that race because Wallaby's still coming.
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  Wallaby is coming along and maybe it's, you know, Alvarado
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  gave it a great trip. He was ready to go.
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  And maybe that was part of what they talked about the Florida
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  Derby was he had a lane. He didn't take it, didn't have
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  the speed. But if he doesn't get bumped,
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  that's my big my biggest what if from it was if Wallaby doesn't
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  get bumped, does he come up because he comes up on the
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  inside and finished third. He came in front of or already
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  finished fourth. He finished fourth.
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  Yeah. But I mean, it was a great race.
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  And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, four of the last five
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  derbies have been won by closures and Sierra Leone was
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  half a nose away from being five and five.
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  The the pace just falls apart in this race apparently.
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  And what did I say last week? I think I need to change my
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  mind. And I just don't like closers in
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  the Derby. And I was going to going to
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  mention that, but like, Ocelli also is a villain because you
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  didn't even get to know much about this horse.
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  Just he's kind of like kind of the rich strike variety, like
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  just kind of shows up and like he's not talked about like great
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  White was talked about a lot as he got in because he's was such
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  a big horse. So we we got to know him a
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  little bit. I don't even think we really got
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  to know that much about Ocelli. No, he finished.
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  We talked about the Wood Memorial and how slow that was
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  and how bad of a race it was, and he finished third in the
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  wood. Like there was no reason to talk
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  about this horse. He wasn't doing anything and
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  somehow in the biggest races of them all, he showed up.
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  But you, you, you talk about Wallaby and I was on commandment
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  and commandment had a rough trip, but coming down the
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  stretch, you see him moving a little bit and I'm like, all
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  right, here we go. And then Ocelli and whoever like
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  he gets bumped, goes backwards. And really he was just like, all
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  right, I'm done. Like this is this is this is too
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  much. So Ocelli took out a couple
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  horses and ruined everybody Super because I don't think too
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  many people had him. Like you talk about how far
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  Golden Tempo was out of it and at the half mile, if you go back
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  and listen to Travis Stone's call at the half mile mark, he
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  talks about how far back Renegade is.
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  He's 15 leaves back and then he like just kind of go and even
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  farther back. What his exact words so far
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  behind are Albus and then Golden Tempo and like go, he kind of
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  just followed like Jose kind of just followed.
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  I ran through traffic a little bit and when they got to the
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  wire he would I mean what how far out was HE78 wide?
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  I mean he. Was way out there.
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  He swung way wide. And like, and also I think
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  another horse, you got to give credit and I'm going to try to
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  say this right because y'all cussed me out last week.
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  Denon Bourbon. There we go.
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  That horse deserves some credit too, for being one of the few
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  frontrunners that was able to finish.
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  Now he didn't finish in in the money, but he still finished
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  fifth, which I think would see in the rest of that pace just
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  collapse. He deserves some credit for that
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  finish. Just look at where Danon Bourbon
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  finished and the horses that are around it.
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  Like it ran a great race. I think Neil, Neil, you were
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  kind of on him too, that like he was going to get out front.
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  Yeah, he. He was one of my draft picks I
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  liked. We'll get.
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  Into that. He was the one Japanese horse,
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  or I guess he's a Kentucky bred horse, but races in Japan.
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  He he ran the right direction. We were worried about that, that
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  he might go, he might go right instead of left, but he ran in
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  the right direction and he damn near almost won the thing.
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  So yeah. And.
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  He got the call from Larry Comas like he's leading the way.
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  But I one more thing with golden tempo, like there were a lot of
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  people that like Matt, you mentioned before the show that
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  Eddie Oltek had him in his like in his tries and and we I mean,
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  we all had him in our tries, in our supers.
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  We just none of us had him in in the front of that, right?
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  Yeah, none of us starting to win in our tries and supers, right?
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  No. I I have a good story about
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  this. We're 3-4 minutes away from
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  post. I've got a little bit left in
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  Twin Spires. And I'm thinking, you know,
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  we've been watching racing all day.
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  You've been trying to dissect everything.
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  And I just got scared about Bob Baffert.
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  And I was like, oh God, I got to get myself ready for patente
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  because who, who was it? Was it you or was it Neil that
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  said, like, are we just going to throw out Bob Baffert?
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  Yeah. And Neil and I were yeah, of
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  course. And I should have listened to
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  Wednesday Matt, because we were right.
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  But I got worried about Potente. So I put I put Potente on top
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  and I'm exacta and then did the main horses underneath.
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  So I did renegade, I did commandment, I did Wallaby
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  emerging market, further ado. I was going to do it.
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  I was like, do I do it for golden tempo as well?
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  And then I thought, well, I'm going to be pissed if Potente
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  wins. And like the non bourbon comes
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  in 2nd and I don't get anything. So I just did 5 on Potente to
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  win. Had I just did that with tempo,
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  I would have been covered. Yeah, yeah.
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  Because I had tempo, I had tempo in second on my exacta and then
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  third on my trifecta. But I didn't.
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  I didn't have them to win. Man, it's, it's always just so
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  easy looking back at it, isn't it?
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  I mean, like, I just keep going back like they were on fire the
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  whole week. The Ortiz brothers.
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  Oh yeah. It look, one thing was neither
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  one of them have won the Derby and we thought that was your
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  negative on Renegade is the fact that he had a ride on him.
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  That was the first time I ride finished in the money and he's
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  not his 10th Derby start, the first time he's ever finished in
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  the money. And honestly, he probably should
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  have won. I mean, do you want to talk
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  about the start for for Renegade, How he how he kept
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  Renegade up? I mean, he got body by got body
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  through the rail. I mean, that horse just went to
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  go smashing out of the gate. It.
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  Yeah, and like, you can't say he made a better run than Golden
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  Tippo because he didn't beat him.
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  But the ride that Renegade had, like I think in the end, what I
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  think he's might be the best horse in the field.
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  Would you all agree with that? Yes.
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  I think so. After dealing with what he had
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  to deal with the start and to where he ended up, absolutely.
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  I think so. But I for one more thing with
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  Golden Tippo, I want to give credit to Caitlin Benson at
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  Churchill and she's on the Twin Spires show.
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  And look, everybody's watching ABC like people are watching it
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  in venue, but they've got so many drinks by then at the track
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  that they're not even paying attention.
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  But this is word for word what she says on the broadcast about
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  Golden Tempo as they're in the pack.
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  Cherie, I said it correctly. Devoe turned out beautifully.
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  No wasted movement. When he walks, his neck is
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  bowed. I don't know what any of this
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  stuff means, but it means the horse must look pretty damn
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  good. He looks sensational.
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  I cannot understand that enough. The way the pace is going to
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  shake out, this horse is going to be rolling from way off.
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  One of the last true legit closer still left.
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  I love what I'm seeing from him. So put a little extra on golden
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  tempo. Verbatim what she said in the
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  back. OK, so you bring up pace.
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  I want to talk about the pace. It wasn't that hot like it was
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  46 1/2 around the first, like the first half, it wasn't like
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  crazy speed figures, but all of a sudden it just died down the
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  stretch. Would you think these horses
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  aren't as great as some of the horses we've seen in the past?
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  Because I know like as we started to get scratches and
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  more speed came in, I was expecting a faster pace.
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  And that's kind of why I wanted to get tempo involved because it
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  was just going to be a breakneck speed.
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  But I mean, I think Tempo, I think they, I saw somebody say
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  Tempo got a 95 buyer and it's the lowest buyer of a Derby
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  winner since they've been doing the buyer ratings in the 80s.
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  Yeah. So it's interesting that like it
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  wasn't that fast of a race, but a deep closer still won.
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  So like what happened? It you see, they were all they
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  were almost 5 wide and they're all together coming down the
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  stretch and it just was kind of chaotic, honestly.
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  And and then you just see all those five except for Dana
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  Danaan Bourbon, really, they all just start backpedaling.
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  And like, I just wonder, like maybe the quality of horses in
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  this field weren't as good. And I've seen some experts talk
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  about that afterwards thinking like, look, looking back, like
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  the favorites in this race probably weren't as good as we
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  let them to be. And my mistake was not putting
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  in a, even if I didn't love golden tempo, like he's 23 to 1
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  and he's going to be a closer. He has a chance to win this
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  thing. Like looking back, they're
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  saying the same thing we are, that they could have figured
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  this out. It's just you don't.
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  I mean, yeah, I would have liked to seen the Puma run because
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  that was my Derby pick. I think if he were hit run and
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  maybe something turns out differently.
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  So I think he was a quality horse that probably could have
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  won this thing. So hopefully we'll get to see
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  some Puma down the road, maybe the Beaumont or something like
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  that and see see what kind of quality horse he is.
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  But I. Think he's very similar horse to
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  Commandment I think and maybe ran a better race in the Florida
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  Derby but just got caught at the wire.
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  I don't, I mean, it could have changed the race, but I just, I
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  don't know if he's that much better to where it would have
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  changed the outcome of the Derby.
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  I would have liked to see him one more talented where it
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  starts for sure. There were too many scratches.
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  Kenny Mcpeek was not happy about it either, no.
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  Kenny Mcpeek Big mad. What was he about?
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  I didn't hear that. What was he mad about?
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  Just the horses are getting scratched when they shouldn't
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  get scratched. They're being overly cautious
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  with them. Overly cautious.
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  I mean, this is a topic of conversation we have every year
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  is the amount of horses that are running.
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  Like, you know, everybody's talking about health and safety
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  of horses and you're throwing 20 of them out there in one race.
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  This 1 ended up with 18, but is that too many?
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  I mean, it's not going to change.
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  I don't want it to change. I like seeing a big horse field
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  but. Overseas they run races like
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  this all the time, like we're one of the few countries that
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  this isn't the norm. Yeah, 'cause isn't like Royal
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  Ascot like 30 horses or something, Like it's like every
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  day. Tracks a lot wider they're.
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  Running, they're running a lot of just straight races without
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  turns. They're also primarily like a
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  lot of them are on turf too, which maybe is a little, I don't
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  know, easier on the horse. So they're able to have more
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  horses out there, but I don't, I mean, it's not going to happen.
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  They're not. They're not going to reduce the
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  the fields I. Don't want it to.
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  I don't. I don't think the trainers want
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  them to either. Owners obviously don't want them
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  to because you want to run the Derby.
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  But I mean, that's always, that always comes up.
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  I mean, this could be a good segue to talking about the
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  schedule. We were going to talk about the
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  schedule, right? Yeah, yeah.
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  So just obviously the big change this year results not going off
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  till what, 840? And dude, when you're pulling
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  up, we got there. What race three, race 4 about?
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  About 1:30, yeah. You're getting there for race
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  four and the Oaks is still 8 hours away almost and drinks are
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  free and they're just hand them to you everywhere you go.
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  Yeah, IA lot of people are saying that they noticed the
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  crowd being smaller at Oaks. They have videos of a lot of
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  people leaving. They have videos of a lot of
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  people at these at these parties around town watching it on on
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  TV's instead of being there. I mean it was a success for TV.
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  It was the most watched Oaks in history.
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  The Oaks got a record audience of 2.4 million.
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  I think that was more than 5 or 6 times the previous record. 4/4
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  times the previous record which was in 1997 when it was on ESP
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  back then. So it's not I I know a bunch of
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  people in our city are upset about it.
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  And look, I get why restaurants are upset about it, but after
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  they put up those numbers, we ain't going back.
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  No, we're not going back. And I I don't understand the
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  whole like, does it cut into the restaurant industry?
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  Maybe, but there's still. No, it there's no maybe it does
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  there's. No, people have people need to
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  eat dinner. There's still plenty of people
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  in this city. They're gonna go out to eat
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  dinner. They're gonna go out and watch
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  the oaks. Like stop crying about this.
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  Like there's people that just live in this city, just little
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  billions. And then you add in everybody
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  that's going to Derby, you're going to be fine.
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  There's people that are still going to come to your
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  restaurant. Stop crying about it.
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  But. There were restaurants that they
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  didn't even open for dinner, like like because.
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  They wanted to want to cry. They cried and they closed their
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  doors like little babies. Keep your doors open and guess
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  what? You probably have some people
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  roll through. They didn't even want to try it
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  that. They did the Notre Dame
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  football. They took their ball and went
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  home. They did one thing, they cried
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  about it and they whined about it is they didn't they?
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  Oh woo Hoo. They just decided not to even
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  try to open the doors. Why don't you keep your doors
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  open, see how it goes, and then maybe next year you make a
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  different decision. They need to try it.
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  I think it's a good point and but to be fair, everybody's not
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  maniacs like we are and heading to another bar as soon as
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  everything's over or heading to dinner, like that's a long day.
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  Most people are probably going home, but I I do agree with you.
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  Leave your doors open. Don't say we're closing because
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  we're pissed off and there's no chance for you to.
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  Come, but also like if you're coming from out of town, like
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  let's say you're coming from California, you're coming from
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  New York or I mean there's, there's people that come up from
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  overseas, they come from Britain or the Netherlands or whatever.
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  You're probably going, if you're at Oaks, you're probably going
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  to Derby too. So you're probably maybe don't
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  stick around for the 830 Oaks because not a lot of people
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  really care a lot about the Oaks like they do.
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  But it's not even anywhere as close to as big as the Derby.
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  And then the numbers show that when there's 24 million people
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  watching the Derby, there's only two million watching the Oaks.
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  So these people will probably go to the track.
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  They go to the track. 500,000, then 500,000 was the previous
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  high for watching it. Right.
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  So these people will go to the track at noon or 1:00 like we
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  did. They'll stay for a little while
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  and then they will leave and get on with their evening and come
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  back to the track the next day. So there's probably, I think
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  there was less people at Oaks that at at post at 8:30, but
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  that was to be expected. But I'm not buying the whole
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  restaurant industry boohooing and crying over it because
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  people will still leave and go to dinner.
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  I think that. Eating chicken fingers at at
• 19:23
  Oaks. No, I think the two people it
• 19:26
  affected the most to me are the people that are going to Oaks
• 19:31
  and going to Derby because that's a quick like the first.
• 19:34
  I mean you're, I mean you're probably not getting to 1st post
• 19:36
  for Derby, David, that's 11 AM and you have an 840 Oaks.
• 19:40
  And then the back don't matter when the time that's.
• 19:43
  Why I think they leave Oaks early.
• 19:44
  I think most people are the ones that are leaving early, which
• 19:46
  then they're going to dinner and they're going home or going to
• 19:48
  their hotels or their parties. The people going to the galas,
• 19:51
  it's the people that are doing the double and the people are
• 19:53
  going to the galas because yes, Oaks is a cool race, it's a
• 19:57
  great thing, but if you're paying thousands of dollars to
• 20:01
  be at these galas, you're going to go to the gap.
• 20:05
  Yeah, there is no doubt. But also if there's five times
• 20:08
  as many people watching it on television, doesn't that bring
• 20:12
  more awareness to it? And now more people might
• 20:15
  eventually go to the Oaks. But the number this year for the
• 20:18
  the attendance was 100 and 3290, which was up last year where it
• 20:22
  was just it was almost 101,000. But a year ago that was the
• 20:26
  smallest Oaks Day crowd this century.
• 20:29
  And the most ever at attendance was 2016 where it was almost
• 20:33
  125,000. So you're talking 20,000 less
• 20:36
  people than this year or 20,000 less than this year's attendance
• 20:43
  is the record. So I mean, if more people were
• 20:46
  watching on TV, will eventually more people start coming to the
• 20:49
  Oaks again? Like is that what they're hoping
• 20:51
  for or they just want the TV money?
• 20:53
  But I think. Yeah, I mean I think the problem
• 20:56
  is too when did, when did they implement mainly all inclusive
• 21:01
  for oaks? I feel like that prob because
• 21:03
  that probably priced the. Price, yeah, the price of Oaks,
• 21:06
  the price of Oaks is probably tripled or quadrupled since they
• 21:08
  did that, which I think 100% is going to hurt your attendance,
• 21:11
  there's no doubt about it. But.
• 21:13
  I mean, I don't know. I kind of personally, I kind of
• 21:15
  like it. I like going later time because
• 21:17
  we got out, we didn't get there. We got out there at 1130 and
• 21:20
  passed Oaks. First race is at 10:00 in the
• 21:23
  morning, like we'll be getting up with eight and you know, you
• 21:26
  rush into the track you're trying to get because those
• 21:28
  first couple of races, they put them real close together.
• 21:31
  I mean, race 123, they're they're running through them
• 21:33
  until you get to about race 4-5 or six and then they start
• 21:36
  spacing them out. But those early races, they
• 21:39
  start bunching them up and you're trying to get there to,
• 21:41
  you know, to see some horse racing.
• 21:43
  I don't think most people are like us though.
• 21:46
  What are most people up? Like I think most people would
• 21:49
  like to get there at like 11 and be not be there till 9:00.
• 21:53
  Like I think we're in the minority.
• 21:56
  We're maniacs. I think, like I'll say this from
• 21:59
  somebody who wasn't there, it looks great on TV.
• 22:02
  It got a good audience. My question is, is there a happy
• 22:06
  medium? Can we do?
• 22:07
  Can we? Can the NBC coverages start at 7
• 22:10
  and Oaks go at 7:40? Like because the end of the day
• 22:14
  NBC didn't come on the air till 8.
• 22:16
  It's not like they were on. The lights, and I think they
• 22:18
  wanted to be on their lights. Yeah, no.
• 22:24
  Wagering was up big time on Oaks day.
• 22:28
  I think it was up 18 percent $89,000,000 better on Oaks day.
• 22:37
  Here's my question was Oaks I mean it was a practice run to
• 22:43
  see how this worked in prime time for for Derby eventually is
• 22:48
  is there I. Don't think so.
• 22:51
  I'll tell you why in a second. No, but go ahead.
• 22:53
  OK, well is there a chance that they just wanted to practice it
• 22:58
  on Oaks? They'll move Derby to prime time
• 23:00
  and then eventually move Oaks back to where it was.
• 23:02
  Is 7 O 2 not prime time? What is prime time?
• 23:06
  It's 4. O'clock on the on the West
• 23:08
  Coast. So I'm going to go.
• 23:09
  But on Saturday, NBC always rolls into NBA playoffs or NHL
• 23:14
  and you're not pushing that back till 10:00.
• 23:16
  Well. I think that's that's another
• 23:19
  thing too I think we need to talk about is the way they
• 23:22
  quickly went to the NBA playoff game.
• 23:24
  When people have been watching Derby all day and you're cutting
• 23:27
  away that quick after the race where they want to.
• 23:30
  I think people want to see the the post game festivities.
• 23:33
  It's a big part of it. Do they do they switch it over
• 23:37
  to like NBC Sports? Yeah, I, I think.
• 23:40
  Probably on Peacock. Yeah, you're right.
• 23:43
  It's probably Peacock. But I yeah, we're doing that.
• 23:45
  There's just no way they're going to push Derby that late to
• 23:48
  to Oaks time of 8:30 or 8:40. I don't think Boo could say you
• 23:51
  know. What?
• 23:53
  It's going to ruin your program. It's going to like you can't
• 23:55
  play anything on after it. I think that like the NBC goes
• 24:01
  on air at 2:30 on Derby Day, they're on.
• 24:04
  And it felt like it was earlier this year.
• 24:06
  Did you? They were on 2:30 and post isn't
• 24:09
  until 7:00, so they're on for a long time.
• 24:11
  When you're only going on 40 minutes before the Oaks post,
• 24:14
  it's I think, I really don't think you're going to push Derby
• 24:18
  back because Neil's right. There's going to be a 73745 NBA
• 24:22
  game that they're going to go to.
• 24:25
  But if they're getting 24 and a half million at 7:00, you don't
• 24:30
  you don't think there's a chance that they want to see what they
• 24:32
  can get at 9:00? Not if there's a game seven
• 24:35
  Celtics and game seven Celtics and Sixers like.
• 24:41
  You you stay like you run the race at 9:00, you stay with post
• 24:44
  game till 10. They can do that.
• 24:46
  They can figure out content like the numbers right now for this
• 24:53
  horse race, which horse racing is declining across the country,
• 24:57
  and every other race except for this race, and it continues to
• 25:02
  grow. Even the Breeders Cup's
• 25:03
  declining. Yes, the the viewership for the
• 25:06
  Breeders Cup is declining. This, this is the Derby is an
• 25:10
  absolute outlier. But this race right now is it's
• 25:17
  getting more viewership than the college basketball title game,
• 25:22
  then the World Series, then the NBA playoffs, pretty much
• 25:27
  everything except for college football, the Super Bowl, the
• 25:31
  Olympics and other like one off events.
• 25:33
  Those are the only events that are getting more viewership than
• 25:36
  the Kentucky Derby. And it's ran at 7:00.
• 25:40
  I just after they saw the success of what it did with the
• 25:43
  Oaks. I just, I think it's the next
• 25:46
  step. But your biggest thing is
• 25:49
  Derby's on a Saturday. I don't think moving it back on
• 25:51
  an hour on Saturday is going to be.
• 25:53
  Why do you think there would be more people watching Derby at
• 25:55
  8:30 than there would be at 7:00?
• 26:00
  I I do so do you think they did the oaks just to see if they can
• 26:03
  get more like that was the only. Absolutely, that 1000%.
• 26:08
  See, I to me there's a part of like it's a test run for the
• 26:11
  Derby. No, it is, as Matt said, it's on
• 26:13
  a Saturday, like Derby. Like you're not 4:00 on the West
• 26:16
  Coast, who cares? Nobody's working.
• 26:18
  Like you're having a Derby party.
• 26:20
  I don't think. I think 7:00, that's seven O 2
• 26:23
  post time is the sweet spot on a Saturday.
• 26:25
  And. That could be the case.
• 26:27
  I just don't think you're going to get anymore.
• 26:29
  If if you get more, I think you might actually get less at 8:30,
• 26:33
  but I don't get anymore. It's not going to be a
• 26:35
  significant amount more. I wouldn't try to mess.
• 26:40
  I wouldn't try to. Mess with it at all.
• 26:41
  Don't mess. Don't mess with it.
• 26:43
  It's it's great. We just talked about how well
• 26:45
  it's doing. Don't mess with it, Yeah.
• 26:48
  I bet part of the reason why they went late on Friday was NBC
• 26:53
  said we can get you on NBC, but we can't start till 8.
• 26:57
  Like is they've got their nightly news and all that stuff.
• 26:59
  Like all that stuff. Yeah, like Saturday doesn't
• 27:03
  matter. NBCS on at 2:30 to for the Derby
• 27:06
  coverage. I guarantee you if NBC said that
• 27:08
  they could do it at 7, they'd probably do it at 7:00 on
• 27:11
  Friday. But NBC was like, we can't do it
• 27:13
  till late. And Churchill was like, sure.
• 27:15
  Yes, I agree 1000%. No, I, I mean, look, my, the
• 27:20
  thing that I laid out, is there a chance that the Oaks can move
• 27:23
  back and the Derby would move up?
• 27:24
  There's I, I do think eventually the Derby could go later.
• 27:28
  I I just think it's there's a possibility the Oaks is never
• 27:32
  moving again. The restaurant, I think we just
• 27:36
  have to get over it. You.
• 27:37
  You. Might move to like 8.
• 27:38
  You move it to 8 like they want it under.
• 27:41
  Lights, it's like. I mean, we were standing there.
• 27:44
  It really wasn't. It wasn't pitch dark at 8:40.
• 27:48
  No, it wasn't. No, no, it's not.
• 27:53
  I mean, if yeah, no, it's not going back.
• 27:55
  It'll never go back to 530 like it was.
• 27:59
  The Derby week handle, does anybody want did has anybody
• 28:03
  looked up the number for the week?
• 28:05
  What I said it was 89 for the for the Oaks day, Yeah, it was
• 28:10
  up 3 1/2 or 3% from last year, 487,000,000 this.
• 28:17
  Is the week or this is the week? That week.
• 28:20
  Is that Saturday to Saturday or is that Tuesday to Saturday?
• 28:22
  I think it's Tuesday to Saturday.
• 28:24
  OK, wow. Yeah, you contributed to get him
• 28:30
  out of that too. Didn't.
• 28:32
  You do what? Said you contributed a nice
• 28:34
  amount of. Took a change to that number
• 28:35
  now, didn't you? It's like you might.
• 28:37
  Be seeing me in a different location next week for the show
• 28:39
  you. Can sit in his car.
• 28:45
  The crowd under every day was 100 and 5415, which was up a
• 28:49
  little bit from the year before. I mean, heck, the the record for
• 28:53
  Derby's 170. So they're 20 off.
• 28:55
  I mean, they, I think they just priced some people out.
• 28:58
  I think you're all right. You're pricing people out of the
• 29:00
  infield now. I I can't imagine.
• 29:03
  I don't even know what the like. What is it?
• 29:04
  Back in our day it was 60-70 bucks.
• 29:06
  Now it's. It was. 40 It was 40.
• 29:09
  It, I think it's $1.60 now for the infield and you and you
• 29:12
  can't go to the paddock anymore. You shouldn't be able to go to
• 29:15
  the paddock. You can't.
• 29:15
  Go to the. You can't even do that well.
• 29:17
  Also, and everything's not all inclusive, so.
• 29:20
  It's not in the infield at all, yeah.
• 29:22
  Right. So you pay 160 and then you're
• 29:24
  buying drinks. Yeah.
• 29:27
  So you're spending like, I don't know what the cheapest taking
• 29:30
  you can get is to not be in the infield at the Derby, but I'd
• 29:34
  say at least 1000, right? 1000 Plus.
• 29:37
  They have. They have walk, they have
• 29:40
  paddock passes. Like when you have you, if you
• 29:42
  go to Costco, you see Costco for $699.
• 29:46
  You got a three day walk around pass for Derby Oaks and Derby.
• 29:49
  Which is basically include all inclusive it.
• 29:51
  Does yes. It got you to the the front side
• 29:53
  of the track. Like basically where the paddock
• 29:55
  is, you don't have a seat, so you're just basically walking
• 29:58
  around the track, but you're on the side that yes, you do get
• 30:00
  the food and the and the beverages.
• 30:01
  And I think down around the final turn, there's grandstands,
• 30:05
  there's not boxes. There are grandstands down there
• 30:08
  that I think they sell that it's still all inclusive.
• 30:11
  But you don't have like a, you don't have to get a box, you
• 30:13
  don't have to get 6 seats. Yeah.
• 30:14
  Yeah, you're probably looking at 300 bucks maybe, yeah.
• 30:19
  So I mean basically buying an info ticket is really just not
• 30:23
  that smart. No.
• 30:25
  To be honest, unless. Their kids are smarter and have
• 30:28
  come up with even more creative ways to sneak in booze like we
• 30:31
  did. Well, I think it's tougher.
• 30:33
  It's a lot tougher. And I mean, we, we had, we were
• 30:37
  creative with it. We were carving out holes in
• 30:40
  loaves and bread. Sandwiches.
• 30:43
  Girls were taking their Ziploc bags full of alcohol to their
• 30:48
  bodies. What else?
• 30:49
  Super gluing 2 liter tops. 2 liters back together.
• 30:55
  But I mean, back then we were able to bring tents in and and
• 30:58
  chairs. We'd get up there so early, we'd
• 30:59
  set up, we'd have our spot. Yeah.
• 31:02
  I mean, we, you looked at the infield on Friday, there's
• 31:05
  hardly nobody in there. No.
• 31:06
  And, and I mean, I'm sure it was pretty crowded for, for Derby
• 31:11
  day, but I mean, you just look at these numbers alone, like the
• 31:14
  financial, the smart thing to do financially is to just buy those
• 31:18
  three hundred $600.00 tickets that you are talking about and
• 31:20
  then you get free food and drink.
• 31:22
  Yeah, Yep. I just, I don't know, the week
• 31:28
  goes by fast, but I think the Tuesday, Friday strategy as far
• 31:31
  as going was perfect because it gives you 2 guys a rest and
• 31:35
  there was, there's no way in the world I was going to the on
• 31:39
  Saturday or I was going on Wednesday.
• 31:44
  Well, you talked about no other horse races really comparing and
• 31:47
  numbers are down except for the Derby.
• 31:49
  Like there's there's a pathway for the Preakness in Belmont to
• 31:54
  get big numbers and it requires these owners to run their damn
• 31:57
  horses. And that's what we're going to
• 31:59
  talk about is who's running the Preakness.
• 32:01
  We don't know, but you got to run the horses like people will
• 32:06
  TuneIn if Golden Tempo is running, If Golden Tempo is not
• 32:09
  running, guess what? Nobody's watching because nobody
• 32:12
  cares. And it's been a problem what for
• 32:13
  the last six years? 1000%.
• 32:17
  And we didn't even get into our draft.
• 32:20
  Do we even? Do we need to get into it?
• 32:22
  Like your top scratched, did you still win because of that?
• 32:27
  I don't know who did I have. I had a.
• 32:28
  Bunch of middle pack guys. I had the non bourbon.
• 32:34
  You had the non bourbon and wallaby.
• 32:36
  Chief, Yeah, I'd what? So if we just counted our top 2,
• 32:41
  if we just counted our top two, yeah, because Puma scratched,
• 32:44
  Yeah, I had renegaded second, but I mean, where did further do
• 32:51
  finish? Further back.
• 32:53
  Yeah, further back. And all three of mine were top
• 32:57
  ten because I had commandment market.
• 33:00
  Will there do finish 11th? Emerging market was 10th.
• 33:04
  And then Commandment Incredible was 167. 67.
• 33:09
  So I think if you do the top 2, Neil gets it.
• 33:12
  I You can't do all three because Neil had a last scratch.
• 33:16
  Yeah I agree and plus I got I had full effort to scratch too
• 33:20
  then I would replace it off air. But I mean renegade was second
• 33:24
  if you just have further ADO was what, a 11 further?
• 33:26
  Do finish 11th. So that's 13 for me if you
• 33:32
  wanted to do it that way. Yeah, I would see 9 would be
• 33:36
  mine combined. See, see how good our math is on
• 33:42
  on the spot? Do you?
• 33:43
  You don't beat that, do you, Matt?
• 33:44
  No, because I I'm 6-7, so I'm thirteen.
• 33:47
  Well. I'll take the victory.
• 33:49
  Yeah, we'll give it to Neil. Give them, give Neil the roses.
• 33:52
  We're I think. We're over here.
• 33:54
  I mean, he and he was the one that said golden tempo keep him
• 33:57
  around. So I I really do think that you
• 34:00
  can get tempo by proxy. Thank you.
• 34:03
  And I mean, and he was more on denial bourbon than the other
• 34:06
  two too, both of us. So all right, I'll give, I'll
• 34:10
  give respect when it's due. Thank you.
• 34:13
  And it is new. We talked about the Preakness.
• 34:17
  I said I want to let's before before we we totally go off the
• 34:22
  Derby. I am very pun intended.
• 34:26
  I am so happy that I was right about so happy.
• 34:30
  Everyone kept talking about so happy and I'm like why are we
• 34:34
  talking about this horse? And I think a lot.
• 34:37
  Of it was the sentimental story I really and and his name.
• 34:40
  And the name? Well, yeah, the name.
• 34:42
  People bet the name. I mean, I I was just like, I
• 34:47
  mean, keep throwing money on it. It's great.
• 34:48
  But I was like, there's no way. And and they were talking like
• 34:51
  they ran him like Mike Smith had him up front pretty much the
• 34:54
  whole race. And I don't that probably wasn't
• 34:57
  the smartest choice, but. But I that's what I think a lot
• 35:02
  of handicappers love about the Derby and these racist that are
• 35:07
  getting bet by people that don't normally bet is because stuff
• 35:10
  like that happens. I mean, what was Portnoy's horse
• 35:14
  in the in the lovely? Gray.
• 35:15
  Lovely Gray got way over bet, way over bet.
• 35:20
  And like if if you know even a little bit, you can take
• 35:23
  advantage of that and look, you were you were right on that.
• 35:26
  You just weren't right on other things and that's why you didn't
• 35:28
  hit. But being right on something
• 35:30
  helps you, yeah. Yes, I mean, Neil, I actually do
• 35:33
  think it helped that the Puma didn't run for you because if
• 35:36
  those rumors about Taylor Swift and Kelsey put owning stake in
• 35:40
  it, those would have hammered the odds.
• 35:42
  That's awful true. You're right.
• 35:43
  The Swifties. Would have been.
• 35:45
  A1 to one favorite. How does something like how does
• 35:48
  that rumor come to be? I don't know.
• 35:53
  Yeah, it just came out of nowhere too.
• 35:54
  Like leading up to the like. Yeah, I hadn't really heard
• 35:58
  anything about it until a few days before the race.
• 36:00
  Well, because the drama was up until he scratched was who was
• 36:04
  going to walk, who's going to walk with the horse?
• 36:07
  Because I think they might have owned enough of a share where
• 36:11
  they're making the walk rather than the actual owners.
• 36:15
  So it it? Yeah, it would.
• 36:18
  Have. Been nuts, but I think for
• 36:22
  Neil's sake I mean it it those I would have loved to see what the
• 36:25
  odds would have been because if so happy can get to 5 to 1 a
• 36:30
  swift he wants my. Yeah, I.
• 36:32
  Think he would have been? Yeah.
• 36:33
  I think he probably was Renegade post time.
• 36:38
  Was it renegade 5 to 1? 4 1/2. 1. 4 1/2.
• 36:43
  Renegade commandment. So happy we're all just right
• 36:46
  there. Like, yeah, I.
• 36:47
  Think the Puma would have been right there with him, yeah.
• 36:52
  And you know, one other thing we got to do before we go to
• 36:55
  Preakness is it's the second time in three years that the
• 36:57
  same jockey has won the Oaks and the Derby as the Jose Ortiz did
• 37:02
  it with Always a Runner and obviously Golden Tempo.
• 37:09
  I mean, Brian Hernandez did it just two years ago with Torpedo
• 37:11
  Anna and and Mystic Dance. So before that, it had been all
• 37:15
  the way back to 2009 when Calvin Bow Rail rode the rail with
• 37:19
  Rachel Alexandra and Mind That Bird.
• 37:25
  So that's another thing, too. Like, just bet who won the Oaks
• 37:29
  and you win this race. Yeah.
• 37:31
  There's just so many. Angles.
• 37:32
  Sound, strategy, sounds, There's so many angles.
• 37:35
  I mean, if you like, imagine thinking about having your top
• 37:39
  three horses that are ridden by Jose Ortiz, Irad Ortiz and Tyler
• 37:43
  Gafflione and it paid out what, 5000 to 1 or whatever it was
• 37:48
  like those 3 jockeys coming 123 paid out that much?
• 37:52
  Yeah, and Gathleone didn't have a ride, right?
• 37:57
  Like he picked up that ride late.
• 37:58
  Oh yeah, yeah, right. Who?
• 38:00
  Who was he on? Was he on?
• 38:02
  I think he was on full effort. He was on full effort.
• 38:06
  Yeah, I don't know, Like there's just like, and my dad does this
• 38:11
  pool where he has like 20 people where they all pick three horses
• 38:15
  and then they throw these supers, these tries together
• 38:17
  with five horses. They do a bunch of like $24.00
• 38:20
  bets with me and him without even talking to each other.
• 38:23
  We're the only ones that put Golden Tempo in our tickets.
• 38:26
  And I did it because of Neil and I was like, he might hit the try
• 38:30
  and he's got, he's a number and we never even talked about it
• 38:33
  until afterwards. He's like, you know, we were the
• 38:35
  only two that even mentioned Golden Tempo.
• 38:37
  I was like, well, why didn't we talk about that?
• 38:39
  We probably could have bet on him just.
• 38:42
  My wife, well, my wife was smart enough to buy Golden Zip.
• 38:47
  My wife was smart enough to buy Golden Tempo in the Andrew Storm
• 38:50
  Derby Party auction for her share.
• 38:54
  She was, she put in 13 bucks. She split it.
• 38:56
  So they bought the horse for 26 and won 790 bucks out of it.
• 39:01
  So like, what's the favorite going for that in that?
• 39:04
  The favorite so Renegade was bought solo by Adam Field for
• 39:09
  like 80. OK.
• 39:11
  Dean, commandment, Adam, Joe, Joe and I split commandment.
• 39:15
  We we went in for 80 something on commandment but we split it
• 39:19
  so 40 something each. So you're talking about 1/4 of
• 39:21
  the price, almost third of the price.
• 39:24
  Yeah, but yeah, the overall overall pool was 700 and it was
• 39:30
  like 790. So her her share of $15 ended up
• 39:34
  paying 3370 something. So all because the as you recall
• 39:41
  her cherry Devoe, the females wanted to buy the female trainer
• 39:45
  and it paid off work. It worked for him.
• 39:47
  Yeah, well, I'm glad some females did that because.
• 39:50
  No, I I've got a story there too.
• 39:53
  I like. I was locked in on all the
• 39:55
  preparations this year. I was tuned into all of them.
• 39:58
  I didn't get anything. Hannah's like, I like the
• 40:00
  storyline. I'm putting a couple bucks on
• 40:02
  Golden Tempo so. So at least your family wants
• 40:07
  some money, yeah? Yes, we won't be homeless.
• 40:10
  We won't be homeless like both. Of y'all, I just I got an often,
• 40:17
  I got an often and I am I am not betting until Preakness day.
• 40:22
  Yeah, I, I did. I remember last year I bet the
• 40:25
  Black Eyed Susan day and it was just awful odds, like the whole
• 40:29
  day. There's a lot of 1 to 1/4 to 5/3
• 40:31
  to five. It just was.
• 40:33
  Yeah, I might bet the I might do the Black Eyed Susan race and
• 40:36
  then bet on breaking this day. Yeah, well, I probably actually
• 40:40
  will do that, but. I do have $35.00 of wagering
• 40:44
  bonuses I need to use in the next week so I'm going to see if
• 40:46
  I can try and keep that stuff alive.
• 40:48
  I don't even. Have any of those?
• 40:49
  And like normally I'm betting the last two races on Churchill,
• 40:54
  I don't even, I don't even look. I was just, I was done.
• 40:59
  I was done. I had four straight 2nd place
• 41:02
  finishes in the middle of on Saturday, like the the middle of
• 41:06
  the stakes races, I was just second place, second place,
• 41:08
  second place, second place. Do we do we need to talk about
• 41:12
  these caws real quick? Yes, the TO Elvis thing is wild.
• 41:18
  So, Neil, or do you know about this?
• 41:21
  Yeah, those are the basically the computers that come in last
• 41:24
  minute and put a bunch of money on it and drive the odds down
• 41:26
  right after. Basically, the gates are
• 41:29
  opening. Yeah.
• 41:30
  So there's one specific race on Saturday then, Matt, the TO
• 41:34
  Elvis race. I don't remember what race
• 41:36
  number it was. I think it was race 8.
• 41:38
  I think it was race 8. But he was like a 30 to 1
• 41:40
  morning line, right? 31 morning line they were
• 41:44
  walking into the gates and I want to say it was Randy Moss or
• 41:48
  what one of the guys said hey TOL this is pretty live you're
• 41:51
  getting a good price 12 to one and then comes through and
• 41:54
  finishes and then I think it was Tarika right away goes whoa 5 to
• 41:59
  1 what happened there and then they started talking about it
• 42:01
  just live on the air be like Oh yeah it's a big topic of
• 42:04
  conversation and Nick you sent the screenshot it was what 3 or
• 42:09
  300 or 400,000 that was bet in that last second or.
• 42:12
  Something like that right before you can't.
• 42:14
  You know how you bet you've been late before and it's just like,
• 42:18
  Nope, too late bro. But these computers know exactly
• 42:22
  what to pounce and they've got it set and they put 300,000 plus
• 42:29
  on this horse at the last second.
• 42:32
  And Churchill's giving them a bunch of rebates and stuff.
• 42:34
  They're they're incentivizing them to do this.
• 42:37
  And it's just crushing us normal people like you actually get
• 42:40
  one, right? You think at a $10 bet, you
• 42:42
  think you're about to make over 120 bucks and instead you're
• 42:46
  making just over 50. There is a law that that they've
• 42:50
  been talking about that it has passed in Kentucky and I think
• 42:53
  we're the 5th state to do it. That will go into effect in July
• 42:56
  of locked odds, like fixed odds. So whatever you bet it at it.
• 43:01
  It gets lots like sports betting.
• 43:03
  So if you're betting something that you're taking the Sixers at
• 43:06
  6 1/2 in the line moves, you're still getting them at 6 1/2.
• 43:10
  So that's the same with with horse racing that will
• 43:12
  eventually go in. So something like this won't
• 43:15
  happen. Like you'll get, and also if you
• 43:17
  want to compete with sports betting, which everybody's used
• 43:19
  to their odds being once they get them, that's what they got.
• 43:22
  And you want people to bet horse racing that aren't really that
• 43:26
  familiar with it and they bet a horse that's 12 to one when it
• 43:28
  leaves the gate and then you you get your final is 5 to 1.
• 43:33
  There's going to be a lot of people.
• 43:34
  Well, I'm done with that. Yeah, it was changing.
• 43:38
  I mean, just think about it. And and Neil, you could, you had
• 43:41
  to pick 5 this week. Imagine if you had that in your
• 43:44
  pick five and how much of a difference that would have made
• 43:47
  in your payout going from 12:00 to 1:00 to 5:00 to 1:00 in a
• 43:50
  pick 5. Like, yeah, come on.
• 43:53
  Huge difference. Yeah, and I mean, I don't know
• 43:56
  like the insurance and outs of it.
• 43:57
  I think it affects like single race wagers more than it does
• 44:01
  like you're exotic, like you're your pick fours and your pick
• 44:05
  fives, but they it still has to affect them a little bit.
• 44:08
  The the biggest thing it affects are the exactives I've seen.
• 44:11
  I I I saw a bunch of people because I clicked on a couple on
• 44:14
  my 4U page and now they're all over the place of how it it
• 44:17
  nukes some exactives by like 5060% which is crazy.
• 44:23
  Yeah, I mean, that's stupid. It's it's it's already
• 44:26
  impossible to win. And then when you actually get
• 44:30
  one right and you just see your winnings drop more than half
• 44:34
  after the gates are opened, that's just that's a tough one
• 44:39
  and it's going to turn a lot of people off on the game maybe
• 44:42
  forever. I mean it, it is.
• 44:43
  I mean the, the, the common, the the money bet by the common
• 44:47
  person is going down. Which is why Churchill wants
• 44:49
  these caws. I mean what?
• 44:52
  Into the pool. You saw you went, let's go back
• 44:55
  to Tuesday when we were all there.
• 44:56
  Those, there were not really great odds in those races at
• 44:59
  all. No, Yeah, yeah, all that too,
• 45:04
  because the Caws are just knocking them down.
• 45:07
  So even if you think you get something at 3:00 to 2:00, it's
• 45:09
  going off at 3:00 to 5:00 and you're like, well, I won couple
• 45:13
  bucks. Yeah.
• 45:14
  No, I mean, look, there's a strategy to it and I want to be
• 45:18
  good at it, which is why I love doing it and why I can I can
• 45:23
  handle losing a couple 100 if I have to during during the week,
• 45:26
  just because I enjoy it and I want to try to solve the puzzle.
• 45:29
  Like it's different than like in watching other sports, you don't
• 45:33
  get all these numbers on a page and try to figure out who's
• 45:36
  going to win, right. So that's that's a part of it I
• 45:39
  enjoy, but I don't think it's like everybody's like that.
• 45:42
  And you just don't want simple things like that that are going
• 45:45
  to turn people away when betting is so accessible for everything
• 45:50
  now. Like it's not just horse racing.
• 45:53
  Almost pretty much everybody in the country can bet on whatever
• 45:54
  they want, whenever they want. And I horse racing, obviously
• 46:01
  the numbers wagered for Derby week heard fine, but it's the
• 46:05
  other 51 weeks of the year that are dropping pretty
• 46:10
  exponentially. And I do think fixed odds will
• 46:12
  help that. Yes.
• 46:14
  Yeah, because if you know you can lock in your price, it'll
• 46:18
  keep the casuals around and you don't have to worry about what
• 46:22
  what it's going to go off at if the caws get on it.
• 46:25
  Yeah. Will we see any horses that ran
• 46:30
  into every run in the Preakness? Nope.
• 46:34
  Nope, because I think there's a good chance we won't.
• 46:38
  You don't think tempo runs? No, this is probably a really
• 46:42
  dumb question. Is Preakness just a little bit
• 46:44
  shorter than the Derby, or is it the same length as a bit shorter
• 46:47
  3? 36 eights, yeah, OK.
• 46:50
  And Belmont, it's Belmont's still Derby, but but we're still
• 46:55
  at Saratoga, right? We're still at Saratoga and oh,
• 46:58
  are we at Laurel this year. We're at Laurel Park in front of
• 47:01
  4800 people for the. Oh, I forgot about that. 4800
• 47:05
  people Preakness is a joke. So is the Preakness or do they
• 47:10
  keep the three sixteenths even at low I think.
• 47:13
  They're keeping the 36. Because I because I know when
• 47:16
  Belmont's been at Saratoga, it's the Derby line.
• 47:19
  It's the Derby Line Mile. And a quarter, yeah.
• 47:21
  Yeah, it hasn't been the mile which.
• 47:22
  Honestly, I kind of hate that. Oh yeah.
• 47:25
  Because. Well.
• 47:26
  They don't run mile and 1/2 at Saratoga, so they don't, yeah.
• 47:30
  Well, well, if you think about it last year, if if you were at
• 47:35
  Belmont, Baeza would be a perfect horse at a mile and a
• 47:38
  half the way Baeza was coming at the end like, but it's a perfect
• 47:41
  Belmont horse. But they're at Saratoga.
• 47:44
  Yeah, it's annoyed me the last couple.
• 47:46
  Like, I love it being in Saratoga, and I want to,
• 47:48
  obviously it's one of the most historic tracks in the country.
• 47:52
  I want to go there, but it changes it to me because it
• 47:55
  changes the distance. Like it's just not.
• 47:56
  It's not the same and it's already not the same because
• 47:59
  it's not a Belmont, but at least make the distance the same.
• 48:02
  Yeah, yeah. I would agree.
• 48:05
  But I dude, I think there's a really good and not just the
• 48:10
  Derby winner like nobody, like usually there's at least two or
• 48:12
  three horses that make the quick turn around and get there in two
• 48:17
  weeks. Like I think Great White is
• 48:20
  pointing there. Which makes sense.
• 48:23
  After it scratched. I have my previous winner
• 48:28
  already. Who is it?
• 48:31
  Crude velocity. It's Baffert's favorite 3 year
• 48:34
  old horse. Well, that horse just ran right
• 48:38
  on the weekend, too. But he didn't run the Derby, ran
• 48:40
  in the path day mile, right? But there's still the two weeks.
• 48:44
  It's the same damn two weeks. Yeah, but running the path day
• 48:48
  mile on the turf? I guess it's less strenuous.
• 48:51
  It's less strenuous than the Derby and Baffert was talking
• 48:54
  that horse up like crazy, so I'm assuming it's going to run.
• 48:57
  Maybe it's not going to run, but if crude velocities in the
• 48:59
  Preakness put in your tickets because it ran away from
• 49:03
  Kingsman and Kingsman is a really good horse.
• 49:07
  Well also if nobody's going from the Derby then just send Golden
• 49:13
  Tempo and go win the damn thing when there's nobody that good in
• 49:17
  the field. Yeah, I had to just go.
• 49:21
  Run. Just go win the damn thing.
• 49:23
  Yeah. Is it I mean y'all, we have to
• 49:29
  change like I get it, it's history, right, it's the way
• 49:32
  it's been, but do we have like they're going to change it here
• 49:35
  in a was it? It's won't go into place next
• 49:38
  year, right? I thought it was going next
• 49:40
  year. I thought it was next year.
• 49:42
  Yeah, Churchill, like this is a lot.
• 49:43
  Yeah, Churchill bought it. And starting for next year,
• 49:46
  yeah. So then we would move it to
• 49:47
  what, the first Saturday in June?
• 49:50
  No, I think it just moves back one more week.
• 49:53
  OK, one week. But I think I saw this tweet.
• 49:56
  Beaumont. I think.
• 49:57
  I think you also move it the same you have.
• 49:59
  To push it back too, because then you'd be in the same
• 50:02
  situation. Right, because you go from three
• 50:04
  weeks to two weeks instead of two weeks to three weeks, right?
• 50:08
  I saw this tweet and I love it. I feel like, and again because
• 50:12
  all the old timers are going to say well if you win the Triple
• 50:14
  Crown it's not going to be the same anymore.
• 50:15
  But if no one run to the Triple Crown who cares?
• 50:18
  I think you should have the major races to start every
• 50:20
  month. Derby's the first week of May
• 50:23
  Preakness is the first week of June.
• 50:25
  July is the Belmont. Well, July 4th weekend for the
• 50:28
  Belmont. I mean, come.
• 50:31
  On then July weekend at the for the Belmont, Hell yeah.
• 50:35
  I mean. To figure out a way to get the
• 50:38
  horses that people are familiar with in these races.
• 50:41
  Yes, yeah. Yeah, because if you do, if you
• 50:44
  do that, then you can have Breeders' Cup preps in August
• 50:48
  and then Travers don't have it the last week of August, Have it
• 50:51
  Labor Day weekend. You're telling me you could have
• 50:54
  Belmont 4th of July weekend, traverse Labor Day weekend and
• 50:57
  like, it gets more people into horse racing because, you know,
• 51:00
  oh, it's the first weekend of the month.
• 51:02
  We got a big horse, we got a big race going on.
• 51:04
  Where are we at? What are we doing?
• 51:06
  You imagine like having your buddies over, you have a little
• 51:08
  4th of July cookout, everybody's having a good time, little pool
• 51:10
  party and a Triple Crowns on the line.
• 51:13
  Everybody's going to be tuned into that.
• 51:16
  Well, and but here's the thing too.
• 51:18
  Like if say Renegade and go to tip O ran in the Preakness and
• 51:24
  Renegade wins this time. But even if even then, if you're
• 51:28
  bringing them back for Belmont and you're seeing them run for
• 51:30
  part three, yeah, like you can win.
• 51:32
  Like that's still gonna bring people like you need these
• 51:35
  horses to run in all three legs. Yes, And if you did it a month
• 51:39
  apart, I think they would do that.
• 51:42
  And I used to be one of these people that said, yeah, you
• 51:44
  can't screw it. Screw the history.
• 51:46
  Like it's boring. Nobody wants to watch this
• 51:48
  Preakness race with nobody in it at Laurel Park.
• 51:51
  Let's get these, let's get these tracks fixed and get them ready.
• 51:56
  And once Pimlico is good to go, once Belmont is good to go, I'm
• 52:00
  100% on board with Matt's idea. Let's go first week of May, 1st
• 52:04
  week of June, 1st week of July and let's do this forever.
• 52:07
  You're telling me the? New Belmont with all the sweets
• 52:12
  and all everything and you tell them it's a 4th of July weekend
• 52:15
  and a big firework show after. I mean come on, it's a no
• 52:18
  brainer. Let's see.
• 52:20
  The Belmont is so reliant on the fact that they need a Triple
• 52:23
  Crown effort like that's. They're obviously their big
• 52:27
  sell, but if you've got all the horses running in all the races,
• 52:30
  you're not going to need that as much.
• 52:31
  Like it would still help obviously, if you've got that
• 52:34
  chance I. Would argue the Preakness needs
• 52:36
  it more. Who gives a crap about the
• 52:38
  Preakness if you don't have a Triple Crown runner?
• 52:40
  Like, well, that used to never be a problem, but now it's a
• 52:44
  problem every single year. Yeah.
• 52:46
  You know, it's more of a problem for the Preakness because a lot
• 52:48
  of these horses could come. I mean, we've seen in the past
• 52:51
  couple years, though, they skipped the Preakness and just
• 52:52
  go straight to the Belmont. It's like, didn't didn't
• 52:55
  sovereignty win the Belmont last year?
• 52:58
  Yeah. If the Preakness came back to
• 52:59
  the Beaumont. Yeah.
• 53:00
  So I mean, like, I would, I would expect to see some of
• 53:03
  these horses in that Belmont race.
• 53:06
  But like you said, the Preakness is just going to be dead.
• 53:08
  Because didn't I think Commandment Wallaby already
• 53:10
  shipped up to Saratoga, right? I think I saw that or some of
• 53:13
  the I think some horses have already gone straight to
• 53:15
  Saratoga. Already ready to go, God?
• 53:19
  Well, I mean, they're here 4 weeks prior to the Derby getting
• 53:23
  ready. Yeah, you know, I just, dude, if
• 53:28
  there's not a single Derby horse running at Laurel Park.
• 53:31
  That's so bad. Like what is the viewership
• 53:34
  going to be on NBC for that one? I don't know, but now that
• 53:38
  Churchill's got control of it, I think going into next year
• 53:40
  they're going to fix it. Will I Here's here's Will it be
• 53:44
  fewer than the Oaks NBC numbers on Friday night?
• 53:50
  No, I. Mean there's no pageantry.
• 53:53
  It's a completely different track.
• 53:55
  Like you don't have any runners running that are in the Derby.
• 53:58
  Do you think there's no chance that it's smaller?
• 54:00
  I think it's still a Saturday. I think you've got enough people
• 54:03
  that even if you're just like, because I think the biggest
• 54:07
  thing of like, if you have it on a weekend, people will turn it
• 54:10
  on their TV. They might not be actively
• 54:12
  watching, but they'll turn it on.
• 54:14
  Whereas like Friday nights you're out doing like you're
• 54:17
  more likely to be out on a Friday than you are on a
• 54:19
  Saturday. And that'll yeah, it'll get
• 54:22
  more. I I think it probably will, but,
• 54:27
  and it is, the numbers aren't going to be good.
• 54:29
  No, I forgot it was at Laurel Park.
• 54:33
  Oh my gosh. 4800 people. It's already sold out. 4800
• 54:37
  people. I would hope it's sold out.
• 54:39
  If it's not sold out, we got problems.
• 54:41
  Like you're going from 150,000 or whatever we called it, the
• 54:43
  Derby to 4800. Dude, there's more people at
• 54:47
  Louisville Kings games. That's a fact, not opinion.
• 54:50
  It's more people at Louisville Bats games on weekends.
• 54:55
  Maybe it? Might be a stretch.
• 54:56
  When they had the Louisville humidity jerseys will be out
• 54:59
  there. They'll be they'll be 4800
• 55:00
  people out there. No.
• 55:01
  Are they go on Fridays and Saturdays?
• 55:02
  Yes, Yeah, there's more but I've 40.
• 55:07
  Are tickets expensive like like secondary market like like do
• 55:11
  people even care like? Let me is there even an infield?
• 55:17
  I don't know. I don't.
• 55:18
  Know let me see what's on. Is it just there?
• 55:19
  One year. I hope so.
• 55:22
  I think so. Now, this year we were supposed
• 55:25
  to be at Belmont, right? And they needed another year to
• 55:28
  fit, like it wasn't going to be ready in time because I it was
• 55:31
  only supposed to be at Saratoga for two, right?
• 55:32
  And this I think the third year, yeah.
• 55:34
  You got pushed back and it'll be back at Belmont next year.
• 55:37
  Yeah. I mean, aren't you sick?
• 55:40
  And see in Belmont at the Big A. Yes.
• 55:46
  Like the quick call it, but it's just Aqueduct.
• 55:49
  Yeah, it's actually like I did it.
• 55:50
  It's Belmont meat, but. All right, so there's like 5
• 55:57
  sections that you could be in. According to Ticket to a a
• 56:01
  StubHub. Right now your cheapest tickets
• 56:04
  are $497.00 in the section called Apron 1.
• 56:12
  Garland. Apron One.
• 56:14
  Apron one, you're in the apron and then there's Tycoons level 1
• 56:18
  which is about 1000. Awful what?
• 56:24
  Is how far? It's 30 minutes away from
• 56:26
  Baltimore. Screw it.
• 56:28
  Just like what? Right back at Churchill.
• 56:31
  Right. Like if you're only going to get
• 56:34
  4000 people in there, like what's the point?
• 56:38
  Like do it at Churchill and split it 5050 between what?
• 56:42
  Like, you know, whatever Baltimore Racing Association in
• 56:45
  church, like, you know, split the pot.
• 56:47
  If Churchill would have bought the Preakness prior to this
• 56:50
  already happened in Laurel, that this probably would have
• 56:53
  happened. Hey.
• 56:54
  Put in a Keeneland before you put it in Laurel Park.
• 56:58
  That would actually be awesome. That's what they should have
• 57:02
  done was put in a Keeneland. Maybe, maybe if Keeneland was an
• 57:06
  Oaths Breeders' Cup. Not that it really, not that
• 57:08
  it's close, but like, I mean, that would have been great.
• 57:11
  I love Keeneland. But you and we talk about how
• 57:14
  horse racing is struggling everywhere except for the Derby.
• 57:18
  But Caitlin sells out every single day.
• 57:19
  Inland spring me was great. I kept seeing folks.
• 57:22
  Racing's not dead in Keeneland. Yeah, it.
• 57:25
  Sells out every single day. Yeah.
• 57:27
  I mean, Churchill doesn't do that.
• 57:28
  They don't try. No, they this is their week.
• 57:31
  This is where they're trying to sell it out.
• 57:33
  It's impossible to sell out Churchill unless it's yeah.
• 57:35
  No, I get that it is. So massive.
• 57:38
  But still, outside of Derby Week, Keeneland's average
• 57:40
  attendance is is higher than Churchill's, so I don't anything
• 57:48
  else on the ponies. No, just remember.
• 57:53
  Remember crude velocity if it runs in the Preakness.
• 57:56
  Crude. Do you, we were going to talk a
• 57:58
  little bit about expansion being official, going to 76 teams.
• 58:02
  Do you want to stay out here and talk about that, or you're too
• 58:06
  close to it but you don't really feel like you should?
• 58:08
  No I, no I I think I can talk about it accurately enough.
• 58:13
  Yeah. We all agree it's terrible,
• 58:17
  yeah. It's awful.
• 58:19
  Like, so they're on the men's side.
• 58:22
  These are the games we would have saw last year if we even
• 58:24
  expanded. Arizona State versus California.
• 58:28
  Bobby Hurley got fired because they were terrible.
• 58:31
  Oklahoma State versus Virginia Tech, Indiana versus Oklahoma,
• 58:35
  Indiana couldn't win a game the last two months of the year,
• 58:39
  Auburn, San Diego State and then smooth Miami and the the two
• 58:44
  that actually did happen. And then they're going to make
• 58:48
  it to where all sixteens have to play to see a one, which Neil
• 58:52
  and I have talked repeatedly about how much we hate sixteens
• 58:56
  have to play another 16 to to get the face of blue blood.
• 58:58
  So. There's going to be more of
• 58:59
  that. Yeah, there's all four.
• 59:02
  Every single one of the sixteens are going to play each other.
• 59:04
  Wow. And then there's going to be
• 59:06
  even 22 fifteens that I think have to play each other to play
• 59:09
  it too. No, no.
• 59:12
  Those are your conference champions.
• 59:13
  They're in. You don't have to play each
• 59:15
  other. Don't screw.
• 59:16
  Them over. We we couldn't agree more like.
• 59:21
  If if you're going to if you're going to do this, it needs to be
• 59:23
  bubble teams and bubble teams only.
• 59:26
  Like 100%. Miami of Ohio, Miami of Ohio
• 59:29
  versus Auburn. Like just have it like that.
• 59:31
  Like the teams that are barely getting in.
• 59:33
  If you're a conference champion, you should be playing in the
• 59:36
  round of 64 and no sooner than. 1000 I agree 1000% and they've
• 59:42
  earned the the right for that but also I don't think people
• 59:47
  really want to watch 26 teams play each other.
• 59:50
  No. No, I was sorry to say that.
• 59:53
  But they don't, No. So nobody wants to watch it and
• 59:58
  they've already earned their way in the tournament.
• 1:00:00
  Let them play Duke. Yes.
• 1:00:03
  Let them like, let them play Michigan and Arizona.
• 1:00:07
  Yeah, it's like the thrill of a lifetime for these kids to like
• 1:00:09
  to play in those those games against Dukes and Michigan
• 1:00:12
  States and Louisville's and Kentucky's and Carolinas, like
• 1:00:17
  think they've earned it, but like they they're not getting
• 1:00:19
  the full tournament experience. A. 100% they're not on the court
• 1:00:24
  with those guys. They're even like the pregame
• 1:00:26
  stuff that they get to be a part of with the one on the other
• 1:00:29
  side is just stuff they'll remember forever.
• 1:00:33
  That's what like, you didn't do this when you're in, when you're
• 1:00:36
  at conference tournament to play another 16.
• 1:00:39
  And now all four of them are going to have to win a game.
• 1:00:42
  Like, yeah, everybody's like, well, they get to win a game.
• 1:00:46
  Well, one of them does, the other one doesn't.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah. And are you taking, are you
• 1:00:54
  going to be excited to watch Arizona State, California play
• 1:00:57
  basketball? No.
• 1:01:00
  No, no, no. It's, it's not going to be good.
• 1:01:05
  It's just not. It's just like it's all TV, man.
• 1:01:11
  It's the same thing as with with the Oaks at 8:40 it's it's all
• 1:01:17
  TV and they don't care if the game sucks because they get more
• 1:01:21
  advent inventory. Yeah, because all all you're
• 1:01:24
  doing is you're going to be going from complaining about
• 1:01:27
  team 68 versus 69, then you're going to be complaining about
• 1:01:30
  team 6076 and 77 and you're going to say, oh, 77 got
• 1:01:34
  screwed. There's going to be teams with
• 1:01:37
  losing records, yeah, at some point there's.
• 1:01:39
  Going to have to be. At some point, there's going to
• 1:01:41
  be teams losing records in this tournament.
• 1:01:43
  There's definitely going to be teams with losing records in
• 1:01:45
  conference. And I I think you should be at
• 1:01:49
  500 or higher to make it. I'm sorry.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah. Like conference.
• 1:01:51
  Like a conference. Record.
• 1:01:52
  Yeah, like, like if you're a conference champion, like you
• 1:01:56
  win your tournament and you have a losing record, you get in.
• 1:01:58
  But it should be like a bowl game.
• 1:02:00
  If you're not six and six, you don't go to a bowl.
• 1:02:03
  If you're not 500, you're not getting into the tournament.
• 1:02:07
  No, because what was it 2 years ago when you had like 6 and 12
• 1:02:10
  Oklahoma in the SEC and they made it look, there's no way.
• 1:02:15
  There's no way I. Mean Auburn was under 600 or
• 1:02:21
  under 500 in the SEC. They won't.
• 1:02:23
  They would have got in here. I mean, we watched smooth play.
• 1:02:27
  How bad did they look like? They did not deserve to be in
• 1:02:29
  the postseason, no. They were dealing.
• 1:02:31
  With the injuries that they were dealing with, yeah.
• 1:02:34
  They just were not a tournament team, no.
• 1:02:37
  And now they're it easy. Yeah.
• 1:02:41
  There's there's 6 clear What? Maybe we're not.
• 1:02:45
  What's 8 clear? Yeah, they're 8 clear.
• 1:02:50
  Good to go. Not even not even nervous on
• 1:02:52
  Selection Sunday. Good.
• 1:02:54
  Whore. Is this the last time or does it
• 1:02:59
  keep getting bigger? I don't know if you can, because
• 1:03:04
  then you have to change the format.
• 1:03:05
  Like there's only so many games you can play early, right?
• 1:03:10
  Like I've like, because you have to play these games on what,
• 1:03:14
  Tuesday or Wednesday? Like you have to.
• 1:03:17
  So like, how many games can you play on Tuesday and Wednesday
• 1:03:19
  before you're changing the format of the whole?
• 1:03:21
  Yeah. Well, right now we have 4,
• 1:03:24
  right? There's two on Tuesday too.
• 1:03:26
  On Wednesday. Yeah.
• 1:03:28
  So what does it expand to now? Now you're going to have.
• 1:03:31
  Some both in it you're going to. Have these six with that larges
• 1:03:37
  your 4 sixteens and then your two fifteens, Yeah, so.
• 1:03:44
  You're 6 games on Tuesday, 6 games on Wednesday.
• 1:03:47
  Well, they're not all going to be in Dayton anymore.
• 1:03:49
  Yeah, I think there's. Going to be a West Coast site.
• 1:03:51
  I think it's one on the one in Dayton.
• 1:03:53
  Dayton for sure still going to host, but I think there's going
• 1:03:55
  to be a West Coast site like maybe Vegas or something.
• 1:03:58
  If there is one positive, hopefully the West Coast game is
• 1:04:03
  where they like, whoever wins those goes to their West Coast.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, because the the the stories about winning the last
• 1:04:09
  game at Dayton at midnight and then having to go out to
• 1:04:12
  Portland OR LA, like that's crazy.
• 1:04:15
  Yeah, they always go on a run though.
• 1:04:17
  I know, which is wild. They those teams find a way.
• 1:04:20
  They hope there's always a team from Dayton that goes on a run.
• 1:04:24
  Did they both lose in the first round this year?
• 1:04:29
  I know Miami of Ohio did. No, who was the other game was
• 1:04:34
  Texas, Texas. Texas.
• 1:04:35
  Oh, Texas. Yeah, Texas is going wrong.
• 1:04:37
  Yeah, Texas went on the run. Yeah, they sure did.
• 1:04:41
  On a buzzer, I think. When this starts the run stop.
• 1:04:46
  Yeah, you're not going to see that anymore by hot tech.
• 1:04:50
  Not even one of these teams. I don't want to happen but.
• 1:04:55
  Like I could still see the Texas going on a run.
• 1:04:59
  You're not going to get the California's going on and run,
• 1:05:01
  but you might still get the Texas going on and run.
• 1:05:03
  Well, they, yeah. They have no business playing a
• 1:05:05
  game like it's. We've been dreading this for how
• 1:05:11
  many years? And we escaped by this year
• 1:05:14
  because we all thought it was going to be this year.
• 1:05:17
  Yeah. And I mean, to be honest, you
• 1:05:21
  can be a bad basketball team and make the NCAA Tournament, which
• 1:05:26
  kind of sucks. And like these schools like
• 1:05:31
  Arizona State, Oklahoma State, they don't have a ton of
• 1:05:34
  basketball tradition. Guarantee it's going up in the
• 1:05:36
  rafters. 20262027. We're one of what is it 6?
• 1:05:47
  Is it 76 teams now? Because they're adding eight,
• 1:05:51
  right? Yeah.
• 1:05:52
  The eight at largest. I don't know.
• 1:05:55
  I hate it, Matt. You're wearing a mat hat.
• 1:05:59
  What's what's that all about? It is a bar in Omaha.
• 1:06:04
  It is called the Mattress Factory, but it is just the mat.
• 1:06:08
  And I was like, I feel like I need to buy this hat.
• 1:06:10
  And I love how it doesn't have anything else on there because
• 1:06:12
  people probably think I bought a hat with just my name on it, but
• 1:06:15
  it's an establishment in Omaha. I love it.
• 1:06:19
  So my, you're, you're a Northeastern sports fan, right,
• 1:06:22
  Patriots? And are you a Celtics fan?
• 1:06:25
  So I I will be honest with this. I am not the biggest Celtics
• 1:06:30
  fan. I'll obviously TuneIn for the
• 1:06:32
  playoffs if I'm given a choice. I'm more of a hockey fan than a
• 1:06:36
  basketball fan. So I'll watch a regular season
• 1:06:39
  Bruins game before I watch a regular season Celtics game.
• 1:06:43
  Well, your thoughts on Jaylen Brown's favorite season of his
• 1:06:47
  life? Playing without Jayson Tatum and
• 1:06:50
  getting bounced in the first round.
• 1:06:52
  So essentially on top of my Derby and Oaks unsuccessful
• 1:06:58
  weekend, I had my hockey team have their season end Friday
• 1:07:02
  night, I had my basketball team and their season Saturday.
• 1:07:06
  And you could say the Red Sox season ended too because they're
• 1:07:08
  just hot garbage right now. So I literally just waiting till
• 1:07:12
  training camp right now. But Jaylen Brown, very good
• 1:07:16
  player, had a good season. Maybe don't say it's your
• 1:07:21
  favorite season ever when you won a title in your Finals MVP
• 1:07:25
  one year. What's the dude?
• 1:07:28
  Why does he hate? Does he hate Tatum?
• 1:07:29
  Didn't even play. Does he hate Tatum?
• 1:07:33
  I don't know if he hates Tatum, but I think he likes being the
• 1:07:37
  alpha number one option, which again, anybody would like that.
• 1:07:41
  But it's really hard to say that a first round exit when you blew
• 1:07:45
  the I want to say it's the Celtics first ever time they've
• 1:07:49
  lost the three one series lead in franchise history in the
• 1:07:53
  playoffs. I said well prior to that it
• 1:07:55
  only happened 13 times in NBA history and it's happened twice
• 1:07:58
  in the last two days. But yeah, it's not very often.
• 1:08:02
  No, you you don't want to be saying that.
• 1:08:06
  No, it's just it's it's a stupid thing to say.
• 1:08:09
  Yeah, it's you get bounced and like, even if you want to be
• 1:08:13
  that guy, you don't say that when the best player in your
• 1:08:18
  team, like he Tatum's better than Jalen Brown.
• 1:08:21
  Yeah, yeah, he's. Your best player, and when he's
• 1:08:25
  not on your team because he's hurt, you can't.
• 1:08:27
  You can't. You just can't say that.
• 1:08:29
  This is my favorite year. And it's tough too, because
• 1:08:31
  Jalen played so well during the regular season.
• 1:08:34
  Like the reason the Celtics fans expectations got higher was
• 1:08:37
  because of how well Jalen played, how the other role
• 1:08:39
  player stepped up and everyone was looking fondly like, oh man,
• 1:08:43
  this guy can do it. And it was basically thrown away
• 1:08:46
  in this last week when like we were coming back from Orlando.
• 1:08:49
  We're watching the Orlando airport.
• 1:08:51
  Tatum hits that three in Philly with like 20 seconds left.
• 1:08:55
  They go up three one. I'm like, all right, let's move
• 1:08:57
  on to the next series and to blow A31 series lead.
• 1:09:01
  I mean, like you can say, oh, well, Tatum wasn't out there.
• 1:09:03
  I go, will you play? They play with their food.
• 1:09:05
  They lost Game 5 when they should have won at home.
• 1:09:07
  The crazy part about Boston sports is the Celtics won game
• 1:09:10
  one in the Garden. The Bruins went over three in
• 1:09:12
  the Garden in their series, and the Celtics lost their last
• 1:09:15
  three. So both teams went one and six
• 1:09:17
  at home. Not good.
• 1:09:20
  Not good. Not good.
• 1:09:22
  I mean, I have no rooting interest, but I ain't a lot like
• 1:09:25
  I was pulling against him. Like, I don't know, Like I don't
• 1:09:31
  know. And they don't even play
• 1:09:33
  Vucevic. Like what did they get him for
• 1:09:36
  playing Game 7? There, there was a lot of
• 1:09:38
  criticism of that of like, you know, if you're going to trade
• 1:09:41
  for the guy, why is he not playing in Game 7?
• 1:09:44
  And like, couldn't Anthony Simon's have helped you in that
• 1:09:46
  spot? Probably, I don't know, but
• 1:09:51
  dude, I tried to jump on the Tampa Bay Lightning bandwagon
• 1:09:53
  because I need a hockey team and like after the Olympics I'm like
• 1:09:56
  all right, let's go. They lose Game 7 allowing and
• 1:10:01
  like the Canadians had the fewest amount of shots on goal
• 1:10:04
  in the history of the NHLI. Just start watching it and
• 1:10:07
  that's how my team gets bounced in Game 7.
• 1:10:08
  Nine shots. Nine shots and they won a game.
• 1:10:13
  Seven Game 7 on the road. And did you see how the third go
• 1:10:17
  or the second go went in or it was 1/3?
• 1:10:20
  Second, because it was. 2 to one, right?
• 1:10:22
  It's 2 to one, yeah. 2 to one it from behind Neil like he's
• 1:10:26
  behind the goal and it hits the back of the goalie from behind
• 1:10:29
  and and what just bounces in. It's all about angles.
• 1:10:32
  It's all about angles. That's why I'm I'm one of the
• 1:10:36
  guys that yells, that yells shoot the puck all the time
• 1:10:39
  because you never know what's going to happen.
• 1:10:40
  Just get the puck on the net. Just never get.
• 1:10:42
  The clocks there. So it's your fault.
• 1:10:45
  It's. Your fault they that they're
• 1:10:47
  bounced right well. They've been bounced in the
• 1:10:49
  first round several years in a row despite being a higher suit,
• 1:10:52
  so I don't think it's all my fault, but their record was
• 1:10:57
  pretty severely worse after I jumped on board, I will say
• 1:11:00
  that. The in the hot, but I even.
• 1:11:03
  Know like a few players now, like I'm going to try to
• 1:11:06
  continue this next year. Hockey's fun.
• 1:11:09
  It's a good time. Why are Canadian hockey teams so
• 1:11:11
  bad in playoffs? One of them's not because they
• 1:11:14
  just bounced my squad. No, but like they haven't.
• 1:11:17
  Nobody. No team from Canada's won a
• 1:11:19
  Stanley Cup since 93. That is for being a big hockey
• 1:11:22
  country. And as much as they care about
• 1:11:24
  hockey up there and all the support that they get, why do
• 1:11:27
  they all suck? It's a wonderful question, but
• 1:11:30
  it's great to always bring. Up because I agree.
• 1:11:34
  It it's. They never won another one.
• 1:11:36
  Yeah, I mean, the Bruins beat Vancouver game seven in
• 1:11:40
  Vancouver back in 2011. That was the closest the
• 1:11:44
  Canadian team has gotten. I think they've only had one
• 1:11:47
  other team make the final three. The.
• 1:11:48
  Flames might have made Didn't the Flames make the Stanley Cup
• 1:11:50
  one year like in the 2000s? Yeah, Oh well, I guess, I guess
• 1:11:54
  Edmonton made it in back-to-back years with McDavid and they lost
• 1:11:57
  the band. Oh yeah, so you had.
• 1:11:58
  Edmonton in there. The Canadians made it in the
• 1:12:01
  COVID year where they played. I forgot.
• 1:12:05
  Well, they had the all Canadian the the playoffs.
• 1:12:08
  It was the all Canadian teams and somehow the Canadians made
• 1:12:10
  it to the finals but lost to your lightning.
• 1:12:12
  Nick, you're, you know, big Lightning fan lost to the I was.
• 1:12:15
  There I was big. It was it was an exciting moment
• 1:12:18
  in my life. How are the Reds doing?
• 1:12:23
  How are the Reds doing? How are the Reds?
• 1:12:25
  Not a not a great weekend. No, we got swept by the pirates.
• 1:12:29
  Watching tonight was good for a while.
• 1:12:31
  We were up 3 nothing and then say it Suzuki just hit a three
• 1:12:34
  run bottom to tie it in the 4th. So we're tied 3 three against
• 1:12:37
  the Cubs. Atlanta Braves off to the best
• 1:12:40
  start in franchise history since like 18, nineties, 25 and 10.
• 1:12:46
  They were the Boston Bean Eaters.
• 1:12:51
  But Ronald Cunha did just pull his handbase on the eye off for
• 1:12:54
  a little bit and Strider did. Still does not look like old
• 1:12:58
  Strider yesterday. Does he not have the velocity
• 1:13:01
  anymore? I'm I'm getting worried about
• 1:13:04
  it. Because he's all speed.
• 1:13:06
  If he doesn't have the speed on his fastball, he's he doesn't
• 1:13:09
  have secondary pitchers that can help you.
• 1:13:11
  Out. I mean, it also helps the
• 1:13:13
  Braves. They're playing.
• 1:13:14
  You're in the worst division in baseball.
• 1:13:16
  The Phillies and the bats are trash.
• 1:13:18
  Yeah, they're playing to the 4th and the 5th highest payrolls in
• 1:13:21
  in baseball. And also helpful two of the.
• 1:13:23
  Worst records, and they're awful and they're awful the.
• 1:13:26
  Red Sox are like 6th in payroll and they have the worst record.
• 1:13:29
  That's great. And Roman Anthony got hurt
• 1:13:31
  tonight. They won the Roman Anthony got
• 1:13:33
  hurt. So Rangers.
• 1:13:34
  Suarez left his start early yesterday.
• 1:13:36
  Roman Anthony just got her crochets on the IL Sunny Gray's
• 1:13:39
  on the IL. It's awesome over here.
• 1:13:41
  I love it. We we got any other sports we
• 1:13:45
  got to talk about before you want to do this, We'll just
• 1:13:47
  leave you on here. You're going to you're going to
• 1:13:48
  play. What would Joe do?
• 1:13:49
  You know whether you like it or not.
• 1:13:51
  I'm in. We have a Thing song for What
• 1:13:53
  Would Joe Do yet? I got to write 1.
• 1:13:55
  I got to get in the I got to get in the booth.
• 1:13:58
  We we are playing our buddy juice like we used to play this
• 1:14:01
  game Matt with him at work where we predict what he was bringing
• 1:14:04
  to lunch and what he would eat. We.
• 1:14:06
  Would call it what's in Juice's lunch pail.
• 1:14:08
  What's his Juice's lunch pail? And I would sing the Jingle and
• 1:14:12
  it would go What's in Juice's lunch pail?
• 1:14:16
  And then we would say Juice has three items in his lunch pail
• 1:14:21
  and you would have to guess item 1 by 1 and you would like ham
• 1:14:24
  sandwich and juice would look at you and go.
• 1:14:26
  And and then he hated it. And then yeah, he did hate it.
• 1:14:31
  We tried to get him to do it on the show, but he just he's
• 1:14:35
  Juice. But I needed what?
• 1:14:37
  So Joe's our buddy that comes up with these either or things.
• 1:14:41
  So I need a what would Joe think?
• 1:14:44
  What would Joe do? Theme song.
• 1:14:46
  This one is You must pick one or the other for the rest of your
• 1:14:50
  life. Never taste food again.
• 1:14:55
  All food is tasteless. You still have to eat for
• 1:14:58
  nourishment, but you can't taste it or never hear music again.
• 1:15:03
  Anytime music is playing, all you hear is silence.
• 1:15:12
  I think it's to me. I think it's easy.
• 1:15:14
  I got a clear one. Yeah, I.
• 1:15:16
  Think I've got a clear one too. I would rather not hear music
• 1:15:19
  again. Yep.
• 1:15:21
  There's way there's there is way more good food in this world
• 1:15:25
  than there is good music. I went the other way.
• 1:15:27
  Oh, that's bad. I'm going to be, I'm going to be
• 1:15:30
  healthy as hell because like, I'm not tasting it anyways.
• 1:15:35
  I'm going to be like kale, green sardines, the healthiest food
• 1:15:41
  ever. And then I'm going to go jam out
• 1:15:43
  at some concerts and listen to music in the car.
• 1:15:47
  I just think you're eating food more in your life than you're
• 1:15:50
  listening to music. There's no doubt, there's no
• 1:15:54
  doubt. But there are many times in my
• 1:15:56
  life where I'm like, I'm hungry, but I don't know what the hell
• 1:15:58
  to eat. And if I could just take a pill
• 1:16:01
  and be full, I would be, I'd be fine with it.
• 1:16:05
  There are times where like, look, I enjoy eating.
• 1:16:10
  I knew you all were both going to say give up music so I'm
• 1:16:14
  trying to go alternate route. And like I do think that there
• 1:16:18
  would be benefits to food being tasteless.
• 1:16:22
  Like you really would eat healthy?
• 1:16:25
  You would. Like, and I mean, I could still
• 1:16:29
  drink, I can still drink for flavour, right?
• 1:16:35
  Is that cheating? I mean, this says food like I I
• 1:16:39
  don't think I'd be able to do like a smoothie.
• 1:16:43
  Yeah, because, well, there's there's a lot of straight.
• 1:16:46
  A straight liquid. I think I can still drink beer.
• 1:16:49
  Well, yeah, OK. What?
• 1:16:51
  What about a milkshake? Does milkshake count?
• 1:16:53
  Like, is that food? I would go milkshakes, probably
• 1:16:56
  in the smoothie category because I can't eat ice cream.
• 1:17:02
  I don't know. There's just a lot more good
• 1:17:04
  food in the world than there is good music.
• 1:17:05
  Like what? You might go to one concert a
• 1:17:07
  year. So going to live music, not a
• 1:17:09
  big deal. And then if you're in the car,
• 1:17:11
  just flip on some sports talk radio.
• 1:17:12
  Yeah, well. Podcasts, there's so many
• 1:17:16
  things. You can sports, talk radio,
• 1:17:19
  whatever. That's the odd, like the obvious
• 1:17:21
  answer is, look, I'm just going to listen to pods and.
• 1:17:26
  You do anyway, just not. Just not go to concerts.
• 1:17:29
  But there's also the thing about this.
• 1:17:31
  How many songs do you love that you never can listen to again?
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  Like it's not just new music, like there's songs that mean a
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  lot to you, I'm sure. Right, we'll never be able to
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  sing games. Have a lot of meaning in your
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  life and you're never going to be able to hear them again.
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  We'll never be able to sing Gangsters Paradise together
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  again. Yeah, How are we going to get
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  chicks in Florida on vacation? We're not.
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  I mean, that was a big strategy. That was a big strategy.
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  Paris, we were up on the stage like it was an actual concert,
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  an elevated floor, like we're 4 feet up on the stage and had
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  just like crowd around us. Like it felt like we were
• 1:18:10
  actually like. I will say though, my answer
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  probably would change if I was a single guy.
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  OK, well, I'm assuming. Because like, you can bond over
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  music. I mean, you can bond over food
• 1:18:21
  too, I guess. But like, you can bond over
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  music. You go on a date.
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  Like when you go on a date and go out somewhere, there's
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  probably going to be music involved somewhere.
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  Also, look, if if your wife or your girlfriend can't cook, you
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  don't even have to say anything. It's like this is delicious.
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  That's a great. Now let's go listen.
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  Let's go listen to some some music.
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  That's a great point. Right.
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  She burns. She burns the casserole.
• 1:18:46
  Oh, it looks delicious, Hun. Crush it.
• 1:18:49
  That's a good point. And then go bump some Parker
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  McCullum or some George Strait or some M.
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  Are you? Are you changing sides?
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  I'm coming way out. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm.
• 1:19:04
  I'm starting to drift into the other lane here.
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  Are you holding strong, Matt? Oh yeah, 100%.
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  Look at me, I need to eat food. Like, I'll be honest, there's
• 1:19:15
  very few times in my life where I eat something and I'm just
• 1:19:19
  like, damn, that was delicious. Like it just, I don't know, it's
• 1:19:22
  just. Huh.
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  There's a lot of times. Yeah, I I don't do that a lot.
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  Lamb chop Give me no lamb chop steak.
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  Seafood. I would miss my mom's cooking
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  honestly more than anything. Like I don't know, when I go to
• 1:19:37
  restaurants I'm never just like that was out of this world.
• 1:19:39
  I can't wait till I do it again. It very rarely happens.
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  Well, it's because you guys have an IHOP with an Applebee's touch
• 1:19:45
  to it on the Dixie Highway. So you're calling the options on
• 1:19:47
  the Dixie are not exactly the greatest thing ever.
• 1:19:50
  So like, what are we driving? To the East End for your ass
• 1:19:53
  once or twice a week. You.
• 1:19:55
  Got an IHOP connected to a Applebee's and you're going to
• 1:19:58
  sit there and say that, oh, it's not really like, well, no shit.
• 1:20:01
  Well. You're just all of our friends
• 1:20:03
  where Neil's favorite place to go is.
• 1:20:06
  And guess what they're going to say?
• 1:20:07
  Applebee's. It's not.
• 1:20:09
  And now he's on here. It's.
• 1:20:10
  Straight crushing. It I've been to an Applebee's in
• 1:20:13
  legit 10 years. But to be honest, did you, you
• 1:20:15
  said, oh, I love Applebee's. Applebee's was great back in the
• 1:20:18
  day. Dollar dollar beers and boneless
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  wings for like 5 bucks yeah. I I mean, here's the thing, when
• 1:20:25
  you're, if you're going to Hoops or Twin Peaks, they're not going
• 1:20:28
  to it's not a high cuisine type place, but the amount of times
• 1:20:31
  I'm going to a really nice restaurant and then like that
• 1:20:34
  meal was fantastic is more than of man, that song's really good.
• 1:20:39
  I don't see. I don't.
• 1:20:41
  I just, that's why I'm picking this, because even when I go to
• 1:20:45
  Ruth, Chris or somewhere like that, it was like, yeah, it was
• 1:20:47
  good, but I just, they didn't blow me away.
• 1:20:50
  You don't. You have a children's palette
• 1:20:53
  then. I mean some people like to eat
• 1:20:57
  more than others. Also like I get full fast so I'm
• 1:21:01
  just not crushing. Like I hate the feeling of being
• 1:21:03
  full. I hate it.
• 1:21:06
  I've seen you crush some Funyuns before.
• 1:21:08
  Dill Tailgate. Dude, now look, you're at you're
• 1:21:11
  at a tailgate. Those snacks you can get whole
• 1:21:13
  bag, you're good to go. And I would miss the Funyuns at
• 1:21:17
  the tailgate, but I could sacrifice a steak.
• 1:21:24
  I'm still going with the food. What?
• 1:21:25
  Was in mom's home cooking would be the the hardest part, but at
• 1:21:33
  least I'd still be able to karaoke and do my best to try to
• 1:21:37
  pick up some chicks because my other stuff ain't working.
• 1:21:45
  Good luck. Yeah, Godspeed.
• 1:21:47
  That was a good one though. Was one of Joe's better?
• 1:21:52
  The last one we just straightened.
• 1:21:53
  The last one was how many 10 year olds could you beat up at
• 1:21:56
  once? And Matt, I'm like, ah, maybe 0
• 1:22:00
  if the dudes, if it's a big 10 year old.
• 1:22:06
  Oh yeah, you you would have to be how many unathletic 10 year
• 1:22:09
  olds for you? Bill Bill said he could maybe
• 1:22:12
  get 10 give. Me, a whole class of 10 year
• 1:22:15
  olds. I mean, I was just watching them
• 1:22:18
  play kid pitch earlier today and I was, as they came up to the
• 1:22:24
  plane, I was like, should I take him or could I, could I not take
• 1:22:28
  Heath? Also, we've talked about your,
• 1:22:32
  your kiddos and running track and my nieces and nephews
• 1:22:35
  running track. Kid pitch at 9 and 10 might be
• 1:22:38
  even worse to watch than that, where you're just watching the
• 1:22:41
  carousel of walks and everybody's still in second.
• 1:22:44
  It's just it's, it's tough. That sounds awful.
• 1:22:48
  It's tough now, once you once you get to All Stars, it's fine,
• 1:22:53
  which my nephew will will play All Stars that the the quality
• 1:22:56
  of baseball, but the regular season games are just they're
• 1:22:59
  tough to watch. Yeah, that sounds awful.
• 1:23:04
  And then you see the kid barely get hit by a pitch and and it's
• 1:23:07
  then it's a 5 minute, it's a 5 minute delay every single time
• 1:23:11
  where he got hit by a 45 mile an hour fastball.
• 1:23:13
  Oh my God. I mean, you never know what
• 1:23:20
  you're going to. You could always end this show
• 1:23:22
  just crushing down and 10 year olds playing Kid Fitch baseball.
• 1:23:25
  You don't know how the show's going to end.
• 1:23:27
  Well, in a week, will we even have a pre like a pre this to
• 1:23:33
  preview? Like what are we even going to
• 1:23:35
  talk about if none of the horses are in the Derby?
• 1:23:37
  What? Is the most position draw.
• 1:23:41
  It's not. I don't know.
• 1:23:42
  Tuesday or Wednesday, I think. We'll do, We'll do.
• 1:23:45
  If we're going to talk Preakness, we'll do the show
• 1:23:46
  next Wednesday, Yeah. Great mass post draw it is.
• 1:23:56
  The post draw is actually Monday at 5:00.
• 1:23:58
  Next Monday at 5:00. OK, I still say Wednesday, as
• 1:24:03
  you get closer, let's see people scratch out.
• 1:24:08
  It's kind of turned into a horse racing pod and I'm not even that
• 1:24:10
  mad about it. I mean, I'm not going to sit
• 1:24:15
  here and break down the NBA and NHL playoffs for an hour.
• 1:24:20
  Maybe we can get some right Preakness weekend.
• 1:24:26
  Yeah, I'll, I'll look, I'll get the the balls to look at my
• 1:24:31
  account to see how much I actually lost by then too.
• 1:24:33
  And I'll, I'll give you all the official number you have.
• 1:24:38
  Got anything else? Nope.
• 1:24:40
  No, just it's kind of sad it's over, isn't it?
• 1:24:42
  You wait for it all year and it goes by really fast.
• 1:24:47
  Did. You end up eating the leftover
• 1:24:49
  frozen pizza that was sitting uncovered in your fridge.
• 1:24:52
  What do you think? I'm going to say now, if you
• 1:24:57
  did, then maybe you really don't taste food.
• 1:25:01
  Crushed it. Yeah.
• 1:25:02
  Oh my God, yeah. Now look all the leftover.
• 1:25:06
  So everybody came over my house on Tuesday, Matt, and they left
• 1:25:10
  a box of doughnuts, a box of blueberry muffins, a box of
• 1:25:13
  smoochy moochies, whatever Coral made.
• 1:25:18
  Oh, the whoopie pies. Yeah, the whoopie pies, that was
• 1:25:21
  close. Did not touch one of those.
• 1:25:27
  Did not touch them. What do you have?
• 1:25:28
  Against in blueberry muffins. Huh.
• 1:25:31
  What? Do you have against doughnuts
• 1:25:32
  and blueberry muffins? I just.
• 1:25:34
  I just I don't know I have noticed I'm not a big don't have
• 1:25:37
  big sweet tooth. What 5?
• 1:25:38
  Day old pizza you ate. Yeah, because I had to eat food
• 1:25:41
  at that moment and it was there. Frozen Digiorno Red Baron pizza
• 1:25:46
  uncovered. I'm just bare naked in your
• 1:25:48
  refrigerator. It's in the.
• 1:25:50
  Refrigerator. It's not bare naked, it's in.
• 1:25:52
  The fridge days old. It's in the fridge.
• 1:25:55
  No, it had no clothes on. It had no wrapping.
• 1:25:56
  It was not in any Tupperware. It was butt naked in your
• 1:25:59
  refrigerator. I.
• 1:26:00
  Mean that is true. And you ate it.
• 1:26:02
  Five days later you got problems.
• 1:26:06
  I didn't eat it, but I gave all the sweets away.
• 1:26:08
  And we sit here and wonder why you can't get chicks your five
• 1:26:12
  day old Digiorno pizza. I I crushed the Chick-fil-A
• 1:26:15
  minis that were left though those.
• 1:26:16
  Are good. Those weren't those weren't
• 1:26:18
  going to waste. Now, I did eat them just as
• 1:26:20
  chicken Nuggets. I got rid of the bread and then
• 1:26:22
  dipped them in like some leftover like you keep the
• 1:26:25
  sauce, you keep the sauces that you have extra when you go to
• 1:26:28
  like McDonald's, Chick-fil-A, right?
• 1:26:30
  I think that's so, yeah, with one of those out and dipped them
• 1:26:32
  and that was like a almost had Chick-fil-A one day.
• 1:26:36
  That's. All right.
• 1:26:37
  We really, we really need to get out of here.
• 1:26:39
  Yeah. But Matt, thanks again for doing
• 1:26:42
  this. It'd be hard to talk a race with
• 1:26:45
  just two people when we're also just not very smart to talk
• 1:26:48
  about the race. So having somebody that's a
• 1:26:50
  little more smarter than us is. Draft, What are you talking?
• 1:26:54
  You're still an idiot. You're still an idiot.
• 1:26:56
  You're an idiot. You got lucky.
• 1:26:58
  I mean, she got lucky once. How many drafts have we done?
• 1:27:04
  It's the first one he's won, Matt so.
• 1:27:06
  I'm excited for the Preakness draft.
• 1:27:09
  I am too like we'll. That one we might only have to
• 1:27:12
  do 2 horses. I think we probably will
• 1:27:15
  definitely. Only.
• 1:27:15
  Only an 8 horse field, yeah. Which is eight horses for 4600
• 1:27:21
  people that gives you what? I'm not 5.
• 1:27:29
  People per horse. OK.
• 1:27:35
  All right, I'm I'm I'm into this shenanigans for the 56 Matt, the
• 1:27:41
  66 Neil, I'm the 410 neck. We appreciate y'all listening to
• 1:27:44
  our Derby breakdown. We will be here again next week
• 1:27:48
  to talk freak this and also remember, if you haven't liked
• 1:27:50
  or subscribe, do that and then follow us at the height
• 1:27:53
  differential. We'll talk to you next week.
• 1:27:58
  Yep. 1 and it was just, that's how I lost everything.
• 1:28:11
  Like if they were in the lead, they faltered.
• 1:28:14
  If they were behind, they couldn't get there.
• 1:28:15
  It was that was the story of my week.