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Can thunderstorms CAUSE paranormal activity to increase? Also, that one time Ben saw an alien in a mirror… · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  coming up i did see an alien in the mirror so
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  i still don't understand exactly what that means
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  a freaking adult i saw an alien okay we're gonna
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  start off with a quick rant you guys want a quick
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  rant not really but you're gonna give it to us
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  anyways okay we're gonna for the first time ever
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  on the podcast break the one rule we have one
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  rule and that's we don't call out any individuals
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  or like any specific businesses unless it's like
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  really important to the central point. Wait,
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  we're calling someone out? I am, yeah. I don't
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  really need to, but I saw this and I got triggered.
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  Been getting triggered? I got triggered. So we're
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  breaking the rule for the first time, okay? And
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  I gotta tell you guys, do not get your weather
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  from AccuWeather .com. They fucking suck. That's
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  what I'm calling out. That's what I'm calling
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  out. I thought it was going to be something paranormal.
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  I was like, let's call some people out. I don't
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  want to call out no app. I mean, I guess it isn't
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  really random. It's not. You know why? You know
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  what triggered me from AccuWeather .com? What?
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  And also, if you want to go down rabbit holes,
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  there's a lot of controversies about AccuWeather
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  .com, so you can do that later, but that's not
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  paranormal related. They posted in 2024, so pretty
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  recently, an article from what I can tell. This
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  is not part of their blog. It is not an opinion
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  piece. It is by a staff writer an article That
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  has a headline quote ghost hunter thunderstorms
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  cause an increase in paranormal activity and
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  Then the subtitle thunderstorms stir energy in
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  the atmosphere And according to those who research
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  paranormal activity, they may just stir the ghostly
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  manifestations of those long dead. Then they
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  go on and there's this whole article basically
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  framing as a known fact, as an actual article
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  by a staff writer of AccuWeather, that thunderstorms
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  do cause an increase in paranormal activity.
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  And you know what we say all the time? There
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  are no... experts in the paranormal how the does
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  accuweather .com have a staff writer that can
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  say with any level of certainty it's highly irresponsible
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  for them to be putting stuff like this that say
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  and i know i know they they say in the article
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  i am i i know they're covering their bust a little
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  bit in the actual article by saying according
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  to this may just but no with a headline like
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  that saying that thunderstorms cause an increase
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  in paranormal activity Most people are just reading
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  the headline and moving on. They're not reading
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  your little qualifiers here. And their qualifiers
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  don't really hold much weight either. They go
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  on and they say that apparitions need a source
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  of energy to manifest their presence and that
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  they could be drawing their energy from thunderstorms.
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  It's just... They go on and they say all these
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  things that have no basis in fact. And you know
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  what? I haven't seen any correlation myself with
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  thunderstorms and paranormal activity. But I
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  guess it's because I don't work at AccuWeather.
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  Ben, not an AccuWeather worker. No! So today
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  we're going to talk about thunderstorms and the
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  paranormal. If you haven't figured that out by
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  now. Welcome to our podcast where we take deep
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  dives looking at various topics through a paranormal
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  lens. We, where I live, have had the worst flooding
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  in forever. Like, literally, there's a dam just
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  farther east from me. And it's, like, eight feet
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  above the dam level. Or, like, the normal, like,
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  level. They had to open it up fully. There's
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  houses that are underwater. Like, yesterday.
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  Yeah. Well, all week. All week this is, like,
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  culminated. Like, it started on Monday because
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  it rained all day Sunday. and it like it literally
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  did not stop once and then we've had all the
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  snow still melting um and it's rained literally
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  every single day since sunday um a lot of people
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  have their like basements flooded and their sub
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  pumps are not working and um yeah just like Literally,
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  I've been going down to the river just about
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  every day, and the river and the parking lot
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  are connected. It's just water. There is none.
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  It's like the people don't have a neck. It's
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  like their head just turns into their shoulders.
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  But yeah, so I'm like, oh yeah. You know what
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  we haven't talked about on this podcast is how...
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  Water and weather potentially affect paranormal
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  activity. So let me ask you, you go to the river
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  all the time. Have you noticed an increase in
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  paranormal activity this week? No. I mean, you
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  don't experience like anything on a baseline
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  level. So going from zero activity times 100
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  is still going to be zero. Yeah. Zero times anything
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  is still zero. See, my math has improved. In
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  two episodes. A little bit. Are you sure zero
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  times zero isn't 15? Yes. Are you saying I have
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  zero math skills, so an increase by anything
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  is still zero? Is that what you're trying to
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  say? I'm joking, I'm joking. I think that is
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  what she's trying to say, Ben. Wow. Well, I was
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  thinking back, and I'm like, have we had any
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  investigations where we have had to deal with
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  weather? and there is a couple that I could think
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  of. And one I wasn't there for, but you guys,
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  I think it was last year when you guys had the
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  tornado warning. Yeah, that's the only example
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  I could think of. And I feel like you guys did
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  have paranormal stuff happen and things amped
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  up. Am I wrong in saying that? Well, firstly,
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  let's set the scene. This was featured in our
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  short film Possession Tape. There was an incident
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  where Angela and I and some others were in Brighton,
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  Michigan, and we were on a hike at the recreation
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  area. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
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  literally out of nowhere, it wasn't like one
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  of those, like, it's going to be bad weather.
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  Why are we even going out? Out of nowhere, the
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  weather turned terrible. And then sirens, phones
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  going off, tornado. Tornado, not just a watch.
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  Warning, warning, warning. And we're in the middle
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  of nowhere, essentially. Our car is far clear,
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  and we have to, like, walk to even get to the
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  car. Plus, you don't want to be just in a car
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  during an active tornado. So we took shelter
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  in this random little, like, I don't know, they
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  have a couple, like, huts or whatever. Straw
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  -roofed hut. Straw roof. Yes. Literally a strong
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  root cut. Again, I don't recommend this. There
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  could have been better alternatives to taking
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  shelter. We were encouraged just to hang out
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  there because the vibes were immaculate. So we
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  were encouraged to stay there and take shelter.
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  And we actually saw a... well it was like a water
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  spout like it looked like a tornado but it was
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  just like a tornado it was a water sprout yeah
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  yeah it was from a distance we were like oh my
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  god there's a tornado right there then we go
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  it's still scary seeing that it's like tall swirling
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  water spout coming right at us uh extremely windy
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  um there was a mirror in there so again was encouraged
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  to do a trespass exercise, which we love to do,
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  where we just stare in a mirror and, like, watch
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  out for changes to happen, usually we do it at
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  haunted places. Here, it was just a case of,
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  we're bored, why not? Well, that's the night
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  I saw an alien. Didn't you thought you got touched
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  earlier before that? Like, that's another reason
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  why you decided to do it. Around the same time.
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  Yeah. Like, we were feeling an energy, and you
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  felt like you got touched, and we were like,
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  yeah, let's do a trespass exercise. Perfect timing,
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  especially with a storm. yeah i mean i tend to
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  think and this might be a theme in this i tend
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  to think like with severe storms especially like
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  that severe where there's a freaking water spout
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  coming out as winds like the door and the windows
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  of this hut were like banging and rattling the
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  whole time i think with storms it gets darker
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  um so you can't see as well it's noisy as heck
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  you can't hear as well um windy you have no sense
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  of, like, orientation, really, because you're
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  all thrown off and wind is coming at you here,
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  wind is coming at you there. It's very chaotic.
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  I don't really think you can trust your senses
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  during a storm to gauge accurately if paranormal
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  activity is happening. It might be just psychological.
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  So if I feel like something comes up on me, I'm
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  just stating that out loud, not necessarily saying
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  I think that's a ghost, because it could have
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  just been... The wind coming through the half
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  -open window that keeps banging at a weird angle
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  that didn't replicate at that angle because the
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  window keeps banging non -stop and it just hit
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  the right time, if that makes any sense. Yep.
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  Yeah, absolutely. But I did see it. We're not
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  going to brush back. I did see an alien in the
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  mirror. I still don't understand exactly what
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  that means, but it's fascinating. I saw an alien.
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  Like, what does an alien look like? so what would
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  it look like i was looking in the mirror yeah
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  don't you dare say you saw an alien because that's
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  not no description i'm i'm describing the alien
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  okay okay my two eyes disappeared and a third
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  eye appeared right in the middle of my forehead
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  and then my entire face disappeared it was just
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  black like a shadow but a third eye which is
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  now the only eye started glowing And then, a
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  different face that looked like a stereotypical,
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  like, you know, a thing like a megamind. Big
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  -headed alien? Yeah, yeah, and it was blue. Like
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  a little gray alien? Yeah, but it was blue. It
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  was blue. It was blue. Big head. And it appeared
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  right where my face was, and then everything
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  started, like, glowing in the room, and it felt
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  like, I don't know, like E .T. or something.
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  probably more accurately like uh close encounters
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  it felt like everything was like i could hear
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  like a frequency like and it was just weird it
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  was like an alien head and then just it just
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  faded away repeat that frequency real quick so
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  anyways um but again would that have happened
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  without the storm i don't know Because we haven't
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  been back, you know, without one at that location.
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  And I was thinking, because I wasn't there for
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  that experience. And I was trying to think of,
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  well, have I ever had any investigations where
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  I've come across, like, weather anomaly while
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  we're doing an investigation? And the only one
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  I can think of is when we had went to the cemetery
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  over in Charlotte. maple hill yeah it was at
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  maple hill and we had done like it was a daytime
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  it was daytime we had done like kind of a daytime
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  investigation there were vibes there were things
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  happening but there was a storm rolling in so
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  we were trying to wrap things up um and i needed
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  to drive home um two hours away and didn't want
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  to drive in a storm happened anyways full downpour
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  was terrible But we could see the storm coming
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  in. We could see the lightning, hear the thunder,
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  could see the rolling clouds. And with all, like,
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  you could feel it in the air. You could feel
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  that there was a shift. And I vividly remember
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  that. It's like, oh, there's a shift in the energy
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  here in the cemetery. And I swear, I saw something.
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  I saw something move like down near there's a
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  pond there. And I swear I saw like a dark shadow
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  go across the walkway. And I'm like, I think
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  it's time to leave. But just that shift in the
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  energy because of the storm that was rolling
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  and like it was palpable. You could feel it.
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  Did we do an investigation? No. There's a thunderstorm.
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  In a cemetery. It's hard to film in thunderstorms.
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  Yeah, it's hard to do anything in a thunderstorm.
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  Unless you're, like, in a building. You know
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  what's funny is, like, when we first started
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  in college, like, freshman year in college, we
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  would go out in, like, blizzards, in, like, negative
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  degree temperatures, in thunderstorms, just because,
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  like, you know. Sounds fun. sounds fun now we're
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  older and it's like no i'm staying home i don't
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  want to do that i'm really not fun anymore i'm
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  still in that phase of i want to go i want to
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  do that yeah um i'm like i'm good like i don't
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  think i've ever been game for going out in a
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  blizzard or a rainstorm or anything like I'm
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  good. If we're indoors, that's a different scenario.
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  Yeah, and storm chasing is a very reckless and
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  dangerous activity that I don't ever care to
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  do. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's reckless. I guess
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  it is reckless. You made it sound like it's a
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  terrible thing to do by saying reckless. I just
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  don't want anyone listening to this thinking,
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  I'm going to go chase a storm to... get a really
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  great paranormal experience out of it. They had
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  one around a severe thunderstorm and a tornado.
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  Let me go hang out around all these tornadoes.
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  I wouldn't necessarily think it's the best idea
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  to go out and chase a big, ginormous tornado
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  just for the paranormal. So how do you prove
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  it? How do you prove that? Um... Happenstance?
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  Yeah, being in the right place at the right time,
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  I guess. But also you have to have previous experience
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  or prior to it to have that baseline of what
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  that place is like with versus without. That's
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  why I say right place, right time. But that kind
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  of brings me to that other thought of whether
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  it kind of melds into the aspect of the flowing
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  of water and, like, water bringing energy to
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  places. Because that's something that you always
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  hear from people, like, every single paranormal
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  investigator TV show forever has said, like,
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  water holds energy, like, flowing water, whatever,
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  brings more energy to a location. Why? Like...
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  It kind of falls under that same umbrella of,
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  like, energy being brought to a location. Well,
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  you even said yourself that when that big thunderstorm
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  rolled in, you can feel the shift. That had nothing
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  to do with, like, you felt ghosts, you felt the
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  storm. People can even, like, smell when it's
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  going to rain and stuff. Petrichor. What? Petrichor.
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  Is that what it's called? Yeah, that's what it's
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  called. I didn't know that. I can't even smell
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  rain. Can you smell rain? Yeah. Yeah. Who can't
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  smell rain? You can't smell rain? Like, not like
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  psychically. That's not how that works, Ben.
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  Oh. Not a psychic thing. Sorry. I wasn't trying
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  to rain on your parade. Yeah, yes you are. You're
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  ruining everything, Ben. Gosh dang it. How do
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  you not be able to smell rain? I can't smell
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  it. My point is that you can feel these shifts
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  in energy regardless of the paranormal activity.
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  So if you're already feeling that energized shift,
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  that spike in energy, are you then priming yourself
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  to have a paranormal experience if you might
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  not otherwise? Like if you're already amped up
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  and you're already kind of feeling different
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  than you did a few minutes ago? Let's say you're
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  on investigation. Yeah. You know, I see your
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  point. Um, but also like I've been saying, I've
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  been saying a lot against, um, like, Oh, these
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  things don't do that. But also at the same time,
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  if you're thinking about it as like a storm coming
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  in or water flowing, it is. in a sense creating
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  energy in the environment like we said we can
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  feel that and what theoretically can increase
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  a spirit's activities or an entity's activities
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  like you go to a location and you're doing a
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  ghost hunt and your batteries are drained and
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  something happens it could it not still have
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  the same effect like if you're putting all of
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  this energy into the air into the area from a
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  storm or flowing water or whatever it is can
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  a spirit draw from that and use that environmental
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  energy i was gonna say that's such a fair point
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  what i was thinking do you this might not go
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  along with like the running water necessarily
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  but for the storm aspect you know yeah how mindset
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  has a has a big impact well that's what i believe
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  and you guys believe at least yeah what happens
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  if the storm is putting you in the same mindset
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  because of everything that's happening especially
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  with a really intense storm you know it's putting
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  you in the same mindset as if you're doing like
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  preparing for a ritual or getting scared in a
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  paranormal investigation or location or something
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  like that i'm just wondering if it's like Putting
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  you in the same mindset because of the activity
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  in the scariness of a storm, if that makes sense.
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  It does. It can increase your adrenaline. I was
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  just going to say, Brenna mentions adrenaline
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  all the time. I mention adrenaline all the time
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  because adrenaline can make you feel and sometimes
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  see things that aren't necessarily there. also
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  can potentially make you more open to seeing
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  things i don't know yeah well what what if a
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  storm comes in all of a sudden we're talking
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  in a sudden instance which both of our anecdotes
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  mine and yours both were a sudden storm so suddenly
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  the environment feels different suddenly you
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  are a little more amped up you can feel some
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  electricity in the air that is a sudden difference
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  in how your body is perceiving the environment
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  and then even if you settle back into calm observant
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  you suddenly thunder boom then you kind of jump
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  oh that was big thunder lightning you're always
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  snapped right back into storm mode so i think
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  it has a lot to do mentally whether you're opening
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  yourself up to an experience by being in this
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  altered mindset, or you're just tricking yourself
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  into having experiences. I think it more has
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  to do with psychologically, as opposed to the
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  storm itself. But that is a good point, Bree,
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  about the energy. But, you know, what if you're
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  in a building? The lightning isn't entering the
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  building. I agree, a bolt of lightning in the
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  air? theoretically could disperse energy but
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  like how would how does that affect when you're
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  in a building i mean but you can still like you
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  you're still in it yeah and i i mean when i'm
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  in there's a thunderstorm that happens at my
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  house i can feel that energy still in my house
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  like whether that's like i said the adrenaline
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  of there being a storm or the fact that i can
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  feel that there's the energy from the storm.
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  I don't know. It's hard to say, but I don't think
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  it changes. So here's potentially a dumb question,
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  but you know a lot of places are abandoned places
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  before they get turned into haunted places people
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  can tour? Yeah. Often, when people buy a haunted
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  location to open up to investigators, they will
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  install electricity, heat, and whatnot in a formerly
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  abandoned location. Yeah. actually installing
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  electricity into a building increase activity?
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  That's a great question. That's a good question.
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  That is also what I was going to say with the
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  water thing, too, is you can never technically
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  remove a body of water from an instance of a
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  haunted body of water. It's always going to be
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  there. Is it still going to be haunted without
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  the water? Residual hauntings, right? Is it less
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  stone tape and more water tape? Water tape. Does
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  the water hold memories? Yeah. You know, that's
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  a good question. I do think that that's a big
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  reason. I was talking with our friends at Malice
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  in the Mitten about this a while ago. But they
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  were like, why do you think Michigan is so haunted?
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  Could it be because of the Great Lakes? Because
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  of all the water? And I was like, yeah. It sounds
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  like a... decently good theory right there. I
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  mean, if you want to extrapolate this whole area,
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  the amount of water could be why Michigan is
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  often cited as one of the most haunted states.
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  I would count Ohio as more haunted than Michigan.
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  Ohio is more haunted than Michigan? I'm just
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  saying, I would consider Ohio to be more haunted.
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  Honestly, I might also, but also I don't want
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  to say it because I hate Ohio. Yeah, say it again.
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  We hate Ohio. Ohio isn't haunted, it's just cursed.
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  It's not the most haunted. It's just cursed.
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  Okay, I can get behind that. But, man, Ohio is
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  more haunted than Michigan. And also, I never
• 24:31
  said Michigan is the most haunted. It's one of.
• 24:34
  Whatever. So, Ohio is cursed, huh? Yes. I can
• 24:42
  count how many times I've had a good experience
• 24:45
  in Ohio on one finger. Was it all at Madison
• 24:51
  Seminary? Yeah. Okay. And you know what? That
• 25:03
  does remind me. There was a really crazy story.
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  One of the few that stand out from Madison Seminary.
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  I remember Adam, the owner was Adam Kimmel. He
• 25:14
  was telling us about this when he did a tour.
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  Took us around the place and telling us some
• 25:19
  stories. One of the first flashlight tours. That
• 25:24
  he did there. There was a thunderstorm. And do
• 25:29
  you remember this one? There was a thunderstorm.
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  And in the lightning. You could see. It illuminated
• 25:36
  the hallway. Because there was a big open window.
• 25:39
  And in the lightning. He saw the silhouette of
• 25:42
  a person. In just one flash. And then another
• 25:45
  flash. That would be so cool. I would be so terrified.
• 25:51
  But like. That would be so cool. Yeah. And that
• 25:57
  was the same area that Angela... I mean, not
• 25:59
  the same night, obviously, but on a different
• 26:01
  investigation. Also not a thunderstorm. Angela
• 26:04
  saw a shadow figure. That's the one time I can
• 26:07
  say I've clearly seen a shadow figure. And I
• 26:11
  don't stand by that. Dude, it was so clear. It
• 26:15
  was like... It wasn't like a fuzzy black. It
• 26:18
  was like peer -shaped, body -shaped, just...
• 26:22
  black of a head just going like this out of a
• 26:27
  doorway just peeking out it's like it's not it's
• 26:31
  like it didn't even have like hair it didn't
• 26:33
  have the outline of hair it was just like the
• 26:34
  outline of a shadow of a shape of a head and
• 26:37
  the shoulders or whatever was peeking around
• 26:39
  the corner and i can't and how many i i can't
• 26:42
  even say that i've ever seen that i have i've
• 26:45
  seen like shadows and like I've only ever seen
• 26:51
  one solid black mass, but I was just a mass.
• 26:56
  It didn't look like a figure. What was that?
• 26:58
  I've never... Rosevear. Rosevear Park, yeah,
• 27:03
  that's right. But I've never seen a human -shaped...
• 27:10
  shadow figure no it was weird i just really wish
• 27:13
  i didn't get creeped out because right when i
• 27:14
  saw it i just turned around and entered the room
• 27:16
  where you guys were at and it was just like i
• 27:19
  literally made it sound like you guys good you
• 27:25
  good and i explained what it was but i really
• 27:28
  wish i didn't turn around and i just faced it
• 27:32
  and see what would have happened I think I probably
• 27:38
  would have done the same thing in that circumstance.
• 27:40
  Or instead of, like, turning around and going
• 27:43
  to the room with you guys, if I just walked towards
• 27:47
  it. See what would have happened. Instead of
• 27:51
  running away. I could never. I would probably.
• 27:54
  I would cry. Instincts? I don't think my body
• 27:59
  would allow me to do that in the moment. But
• 28:02
  I just wish. my body would allow me to do that.
• 28:05
  So I need to train my body to be able to do that
• 28:10
  stuff more. Yeah. But I feel like we all still
• 28:14
  have the same consensus on like, do storms or
• 28:17
  water actually do anything to paranormal activity?
• 28:23
  The water water's up in the air for me. I do
• 28:26
  like the idea of like, residual energy component,
• 28:30
  like the stone tape theory, but it makes sense
• 28:32
  that water holds onto stuff. I'm out on storms.
• 28:38
  I like the idea. I like the thought that storms
• 28:41
  bringing energy into a place can amp up activity
• 28:46
  because you're putting all that energy into the
• 28:48
  air. But I don't know if it's true. Like... You
• 28:54
  know, I... Great way of putting how I actually
• 28:58
  feel. I think it's a good thought. I think it's
• 29:00
  a good thought. It's a great thought. It has,
• 29:03
  it's a great theory. But I don't think you should
• 29:06
  say it as fact. Like, oh, and even us, if there's
• 29:10
  a thunderstorm. If we're trying to plan an investigation
• 29:13
  over the course of three days, you can kind of
• 29:17
  gauge if there's going to be storms within a
• 29:20
  couple days or whatever. If we're like, hey,
• 29:22
  let's investigate this weekend. Friday is clear
• 29:24
  weather. Saturday is going to be severe thunderstorms.
• 29:27
  I'm picking Friday to investigate. I'm not investigating
• 29:30
  during a storm. Yeah. Unless we're indoors. But
• 29:35
  even then, I'd prefer clear weather. What about
• 29:37
  a snowstorm, Ben? We investigated in a... Really
• 29:41
  bad snowstorm one. We got stranded. Snowstorm
• 29:46
  versus a rainstorm. Or a thunderstorm. What about
• 29:52
  a thunder snowstorm? Rare, but it happens. We
• 29:57
  had one this winter. I remember you telling us
• 30:00
  that. It was weird. I think that's more paranormal
• 30:07
  than any ghost you might see. Honestly, yeah.
• 30:11
  Ghost thunder. Maybe not paranormal, but definitely
• 30:15
  abnormal. I feel bad for the first people in
• 30:18
  this world to ever experience a thundersnow.
• 30:21
  They must have been so confused. Yeah. I feel
• 30:25
  bad for the first people to experience thunder.
• 30:28
  Can you imagine just living your life? Bad in
• 30:30
  general. So, any final thoughts on weather? I
• 30:36
  think this is one of those... touchstone topics
• 30:38
  where like i think i would love to hear if any
• 30:42
  of our viewers listeners have ever had like that
• 30:48
  sort of experience where they've done an investigation
• 30:50
  during a storm that they've investigated before
• 30:56
  and have noticed a noticeable difference like
• 31:00
  i wanna i wanna hear from you guys like a really
• 31:03
  noticeable difference Because if it was just,
• 31:07
  like, a medium or a small difference, that could
• 31:10
  just be your mind -playing trick. So we need,
• 31:12
  like, a full -on, like... But how do you quantify
• 31:15
  that? What's a major difference? I mean, that's
• 31:17
  true. That's true. We've investigated places
• 31:20
  multiple times. People's extremes is a range.
• 31:23
  Yeah. Well, take Stimson Hospital. We've investigated
• 31:26
  there. We go there every year. Never, I don't
• 31:30
  think, during a severe storm. And even then there's
• 31:33
  a difference in activity. It depends on the date.
• 31:36
  It depends on your energy you're bringing. It
• 31:38
  depends on prior investigations, you know, within
• 31:42
  the week span. Yeah. I mean, every investigation
• 31:46
  we've had at Stimson has been different. Yeah.
• 31:50
  Like, we've never had one that's like, they've
• 31:53
  never been consistently the same in activity.
• 31:58
  So let's say we go back to Simpson and there's
• 32:01
  a severe thunderstorm. How do we know that it's
• 32:05
  a thunderstorm that's the cause for the increase
• 32:07
  in activity? Yeah. How can we even, what would
• 32:10
  it take to even do an investigation in Simpson
• 32:13
  Hospital, which is their most frequented location?
• 32:17
  What would it even take for us to be like, yeah,
• 32:20
  there's an increase tonight? Yeah. Like we've
• 32:22
  been there so often. How do you quantify increase
• 32:25
  in activity? Yeah, that's hard to say. Because,
• 32:28
  like, you really can't quantify haunted locations
• 32:32
  unless you're literally there every single day
• 32:35
  and you're taking in your accounts and other
• 32:37
  people's accounts exactly what's happening. Like,
• 32:41
  it's, you can't, you really can't quantify it.
• 32:46
  But I'd love to hear from other people if they
• 32:50
  think, what their thoughts are. Do they think
• 32:53
  that... Like, I mean, like we said, it's just
• 32:56
  a theory. There's really no way to actually say
• 33:01
  it's true or not. So I think you get a theory.
• 33:05
  That's a good first step. We all agree it's a
• 33:07
  good thought. I just don't think you can say
• 33:09
  that there's a correlation between the two yet.
• 33:12
  If we get enough anecdotes of like, it's like
• 33:15
  the story of like seeing a shadow figure in a
• 33:18
  lightning. you know, illumination. The lightning
• 33:21
  illuminates the shadow. That, I think, is a direct
• 33:23
  link from an experience, and the storm, you would
• 33:28
  not have seen, or he would not have seen that
• 33:31
  shadow figure if it was not for the lightning,
• 33:33
  for the storm. So that's a good example of something
• 33:37
  that's, like, the two are linked. So if we can
• 33:40
  get enough anecdotal links, I think we can kind
• 33:43
  of see a clearer picture. Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Anything
• 33:49
  to add, Ange? No. Agree? Nope. I think we've
• 33:55
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