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The Stuff We Probably Shouldn’t Say on the Internet · You Know What I Mean?

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  Welcome to the You Know what I Mean podcast by Kate and
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  Bethany. To keep up with us on the daily
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  Hello. Hi.
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  How are you? I'm.
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  Doing pretty good. How are you?
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  I'm good. I was just telling you I like
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  your hair. And what were you going to say?
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  I literally, so I had it down because it's snowing.
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  And so I had a winter hat on when I went down to the kennel
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  room. And then when I took it off, I'm
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  like, no, like I looked like AI put my finger in a light socket
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  and I looked like I had like a mushroom head.
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  So it went through it up and I'm like, Oh my gosh, are these
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  tendrils gonna look weird? I'm like, I'm not even gonna
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  know until we start recording. And I would just like tuck them
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  back. But the fact that you're like, I
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  like your hair. I'm like OK, cool.
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  I do I. Don't tempt me with a little
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  positive reinforcement. I was going to do, I was going
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  to put on like a beanie hat because it's not, I mean, I
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  don't know, it's not cold at all.
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  I would sweat outside with it on.
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  But just like hair wise, I'm not.
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  Last time I was like, I'm going to do my hair every single
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  podcast. I'm not.
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  Committing to that. Well.
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  That was so funny. The one time I showed up and my
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  hair was like, done. You're like, Oh my gosh, you're
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  like, what did you say you looked like?
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  Jlo. No, that you looked like.
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  Oh a Teletubby, Yes, I honestly have no reference for that.
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  It just popped into my head the. Last time I can't Unsee it.
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  The last time I thought of a Teletubby was when I was a
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  babysitter in like, I don't know, 6th grade?
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  Anyway, it's weird how things just pop in your head.
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  This is one thing I love playing this game around Casey.
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  Or I'll say just say whatever word comes to mind like.
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  It's the weirdest thing ever. It's the weirdest thing.
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  It's just a very weird little exercise.
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  But like it's the weirdest thing that comes to his mind that I
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  was thinking about. Reoccurring dreams.
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  I had a dream last night that was really weird.
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  It wasn't a reoccurring dream, but can you share your poop
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  nugget reoccurring dream with our friends here at The Pod?
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  With our many friends that should be know about my poop
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  dreams. Yeah, I mean with the millions
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  of streams we have, like everyone wants to know.
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  Well, by the way, I had another poop dream last week, but it
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  wasn't my poop, It was dog's poop.
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  That's even worse. Yeah, I don't know.
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  It was so bizarre. Oh, yeah, I have recurring poop
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  dreams. Well, mainly like one time.
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  OK, the amount of times we're going to say poop in this
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  episode is already intense, but I had a dream.
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  Really hit the limit. A poop nugget fell out of my
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  pants. I was just walking you.
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  Call it a poop nugget is what kills me.
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  People will know what I what I mean.
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  But you're just, it's just like falling out of your pants.
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  Yeah, that's usually if you're you're like dehydrated probably
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  or something. But anyway, so, but my other
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  like really recurring one about potty stuff is when for some
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  reason I'm around, I'm like, I have to go to the bathroom on a
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  toilet, but it's either in a stall that has no doors or
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  walls. So everyone's right next to each
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  other. And then the other thing is it
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  always overflows. And then it's that feeling of,
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  Oh my God, someone's going to know that I did something
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  terrible in here and it's just overflowing.
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  I can't stop it. That's what my dream is.
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  Oh my God, have you ever looked up what that is?
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  I'm sure it's. Something about anxiety or like
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  fear of something. I try not to look mine up
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  anymore because mine's always like my teeth are falling out
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  and I know that one's like an anxiety thing.
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  Yes. Have you had that one recently?
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  I had that one when we were in Florida.
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  Oh, that's right. Yeah, but no, I haven't had it
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  since. I had a weird dream last night
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  that I was telling cases. It's actually kind of terrible,
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  but also like, bizarre. So I'm driving in my car.
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  So my Forerunner, I'm in a car wash and I'm going to the
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  outside section. You know how you slow down and
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  it's like the dryer, like you're just in like 1 at a gas station
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  or something. So you go really, really slow
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  through it and there's usually like a car in front of you.
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  So the car in front of me was like a toy Jeep with three kids
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  driving it like 3. You know, those little toy Jeeps
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  that are plastic. And it was like little kids,
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  like 2-4 year olds maybe and like an infant and the infant
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  was driving it, but in like in their baby car seat.
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  And I have this dream sometimes that I can't like my brakes
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  aren't as like they, it doesn't fully stop.
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  I'm like pressing it as hard as I can.
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  And I'm just, I'm not going fast, but I'm just still tiny
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  bit rolling. So I'm coming up behind this
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  little toy Jeep in the in this car wash and I'm going literally
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  not even 5 miles an hour, but my car is not stopping.
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  It rolls over the toy Jeep with the children in it, and I get
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  out. I'm freaking out.
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  They're all alive and they're all just like, oh, what
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  happened? Like as if they just got like,
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  you know, I don't know, just like knocked over by someone on
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  a scooter. No, a forerunner felt like ran
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  over them and I get out and I immediately go to the infant and
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  she's kind of like doesn't look great.
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  And I pick her up and I'm like, Oh my gosh.
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  And like she was starts crying and she was fine.
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  The mom's in like a car right outside of it and I'm like, Oh
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  my gosh, like my car. I was hitting my brakes as hard
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  as I could. Mom's like, ah, they're fine.
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  I'm like, I'm like, can you please take my information?
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  Like, can you please take them? Just make sure they're OK like
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  this. Yeah, this was a dream that I
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  had. And then I woke up and I'm like,
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  that was bizarre. How did that dream make you
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  feel? Like actually no.
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  Like kind of funny because it's like everyone was like, but I'm
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  like, I almost felt like this is wild.
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  Like why would the mom not be so upset with me?
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  Like I I felt like I should be in trouble but the mom didn't
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  seem mad so and the kids seemed OK but I'm like why?
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  It was just like a bizarre dream.
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  Another one I've had a lot, not recently, but it was always
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  about Gators, which is so like cliche about Florida people, but
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  Gators and people in Florida. But it would be like they're
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  swimming underneath and like I'm in a little, little boat.
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  So I'm almost always stranded and like they're all around me.
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  I've had dreams like that, but mine are sharks.
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  That are not Gators, yeah. That's so funny.
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  My friend posted a story and about the snow and she's like,
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  well, we don't have hurricanes. We don't have, you know, many
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  tornadoes. We don't have alligators.
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  I responded back to her. I'm like, I'd much rather
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  alligators than the snow. Yeah, I mean, they don't come up
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  to you. Really.
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  Yeah. It's they're like deer here.
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  It's just like they see you and they run off if you even see
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  them. Yeah, but that's very like
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  cliche because someone at trainer and you, the last one
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  was like, do you see Gators all the time or something?
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  I was like. Considering now, did she say
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  something about like considering moving here?
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  But she's like, I don't know if that'll be like hard with the
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  dogs. No, she just like I think for
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  conversation purposes, she was just like, since she said it so
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  seriously, and I really like I like all of them.
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  But like she's it was funny where she just said it like a
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  normal conversation thing. Not trying to be funny or
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  whatever. Just you live in Florida.
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  Do you see Gators all the time? And I was like, no, I don't know
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  the last time. We to seek him out and when I
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  wanted to see him like the first couple times that we visited.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't believe you have a
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  snowstorm right now. That's wild.
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  FML. This is.
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  Made me want to move more than anything else.
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  But your summers are so great. I'm so sick of saying that, but
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  yeah. Well, we're coming up to our
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  summer. I can feel it like this week
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  tomorrow, 'cause we're probably, it was like when I told him you
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  have a snowstorm and he was like, did you tell them we're
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  getting a storm too? And I was like, no, it's not
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  really the same like. Sunny storm.
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  Well, it would be like a Thunder rainstorm.
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  It's just delightful though. I like sitting on the porch now,
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  but no summer. Storm is fine in January, but
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  two days before my birthday? This is like the audacity of
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  Wisconsin. I know, but it is what it is.
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  Whatever. I'm just, it's supposed to be 50
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  on my birthday, so I'm hoping that that's the case and then
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  things will melt. We were supposed to do this on
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  your birthday. I had a little plan planned.
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  Oh, I'm sorry. Two days before, by the way.
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  Yeah. It's gonna go out on our on my
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  birthday. This actually works out.
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  I hope it's OK with you 'cause this actually works out great
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  with us being like, we literally can't go anywhere today 'cause
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  it's just, Oh yeah, it's basically Blizzard condition.
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  Yeah. So yeah, I was like, well, I
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  might as well talk to my BFF and be happy if I'm gonna be stuck
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  inside. OK, can I tell you something?
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  I have this thing I wanna ask you so 'cause I have a.
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  List of things today. Whoa.
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  Nothing to do with dog training. All just things I wanna tell
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  you. OK, so I'm going to do 1 and
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  then I want to hear yours. OK, so I saw this it's like a
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  podcast or something from NPR where she does it's called wild
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  card and what she'll I saw an episode with Brené Brown because
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  I just love Brené Brown stuff so much.
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  And she picks up like these three cards and she'll ask 123
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  which one to pick and then it'll be a question.
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  OK, like, Oh my gosh, that's so cool.
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  So I looked up. I just ordered a pack of them.
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  Awesome. And then I also, because I put
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  it in a ChatGPT and it was like, would you like me to come up
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  with because I was saying to do on the podcast with you.
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  Yeah. You want me to come up with some
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  questions you can ask Kate in the next 1.
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  And I was like, yes. So.
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  OK, so. So I love this one and I've had
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  time to prepare. So I'm going to have to have you
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  like pick one for next time. I don't know.
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  Whatever. OK.
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  Oh, I want to answer this one about you first.
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  What's something about me that people probably wouldn't guess
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  from Instagram? OK, so am I answering that about
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  you and then you're answering it about me?
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  Or do we answer it about ourselves?
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  You are so you answered about me.
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  I answered about you. So I'm going to answer about you
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  first. OK, OK, so because the one thing
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  I think I don't know, I mean you like you sprinkle this into your
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  like Instagram stories and stuff.
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  I don't think people probably know how I don't.
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  I've never said the word wicked, but it's what I want to say.
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  Wicked sense of humor you have. Yeah.
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  Like you love a funny moment? Oh, I am a jokester.
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  OK, tell it 'cause I still think about the banana story and it
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  still haunts me sometimes. Oh oh I love also like pulling
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  kind of pranks on people. You're a pranky person.
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  Yeah, oh, for sure. So my poor best friend of so
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  when we moved to Wisconsin, I was in 4th grade and she was my
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  first friend that I made first friend that I met and we kind of
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  just were like those friends where we don't keep up as much
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  now we're still like very, very close like love her to death.
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  We're just in completely different seasons of our lives,
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  but so we've been friends over 20 years at this point, but we
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  were in middle school together, we went to high school together,
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  and then we actually went to college together.
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  So we were roommates in college and we both worked at a Tropical
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  Smoothie Cafe and I. Worked at one of those too,
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  which is so crazy. Yeah.
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  Insane. And so it opened up and it was
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  like definitely a new thing for the area.
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  Like I went to school in Green Bay, WI, so it was like the only
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  one that they had. And we started working there
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  when it's pretty new. So early on they were doing
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  stuff where they like, you know, lots of advertising and they had
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  these two suits. One was a smoothie and one was a
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  banana. Similarly, you'll see like
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  outside of, I don't know, I keep thinking car washes, but you
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  know, people out there like, well, come in, come get a car
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  wash where this was like, oh, come in a smoothie, you know.
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  So I told my friend, me and her were the only ones working.
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  It was really, really slow. And there's like cameras in the
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  shop that I know the owner constantly would check.
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  And so the phone rang and it was the owner.
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  And he was just like calling to ask me a question or something
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  like that. And I was like, OK, Dalton,
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  like, talk to you later. I hang up and I go, we call it.
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  Her nickname is Rack. I was like, Rack, that was
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  Dalton. He he said that you need to go
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  out into the banana suit and, you know, just go to go to try
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  to attract people to come and just like, are you kidding me?
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  Like I hate doing that. I do not want to do it.
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  I'm like, I don't call him like I made it So I was like, yeah,
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  give him a call like if you want to.
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  But he said he'd rather me stay in and you go out and and try to
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  attract some customers. So she's like, Dang it.
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  So she gets all dressed up. I take a picture of her and
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  everything. She's out there dancing in the
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  banana suit. I'm taking videos.
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  It's a drive through window. Probably like 20 minutes after I
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  have her in there. I was like, hey, Rack.
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  She's like, what? I'm like, just kidding.
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  She's like, what do you mean just kidding?
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  I'm like, Dalton didn't say you had to get in the banana suit.
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  She's like, are you kidding me, Kate?
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  The fact that she, she would believe me, she was such an easy
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  target. Still to this day, I'm like,
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  she's the only of like our closest friends.
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  That's a mom. She's 3 kids.
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  And I'm like, you're still so gullible.
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  I still can like she's one of those that's like easily
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  influenced with that kind of stuff.
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  I'm like, that was too easy. You love a prank.
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  I don't think people know that about you.
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  Yeah, and I feel like I used to do more of like sassy funny
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  reels and stuff like that. I don't do as many now but I
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  love a like let me act and like be the funny person or be the
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  jokester in it or like the goofy one.
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  OK, yeah, I can see that. I just saw this one person who I
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  started following her comedian. I was trying to describe the
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  reels to Bobby yesterday. It doesn't land like the same.
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  I just, I hate doing that where I'm like, oh, this is so funny.
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  And I tell it terribly. Yes.
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  But what she does is she goes on rants.
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  And I started like thinking the other night when I was going to
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  sleep, I was dreaming about like these different rants I could do
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  where it's just like you tap into to like a different part of
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  yourself. It's a part of yourself that's
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  like, I don't care, but is your life motto for these rants.
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  And there was something very exciting about that.
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  Just thinking about what I could do, like rant wise.
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  Anyway, well, it's so funny that you say that too, because like I
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  feel like that personality of me comes out a lot of the trainer
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  and you like I just have mine very but like they get to see
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  like I constantly break out into like the song of staring at the
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  blank page and like get my face going or start like a dance or
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  whatever, or like have no poker face.
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  Like if I'm feeling something, my face is like yes.
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  And I feel like I show that a ton in person with people.
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  Yeah, you do. I love like, I love making
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  people laugh. Like if so, I like, I really, I
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  like don't want to, you know, overdo it or oversell it.
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  So I try to keep it like I don't really care if you laugh, but.
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  But you really do. Oh, I love when people laugh at
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  me. Oh, yeah, it's so good.
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  OK, something about Bethany. See, I feel like you share more
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  just like about not even like about yourself.
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  Like I definitely come on as myself, but I feel like people
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  might see you as like a lot of your stuff is, you know, you get
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  excited about like your lemon tree and like the creative stuff
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  and like, but I don't think people would necessarily realize
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  the depth that you have as well, where it's like, I feel like you
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  are extremely grounded and like who you are.
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  But like, you probably are better at like having personal
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  boundaries for yourself than anyone I know.
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  Oh, wow, really. And I don't know that people
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  would necessarily think that about you.
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  Yeah. Like even even like, and I know
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  this took work and stuff, but like even something as simple as
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  like you even said yesterday and I could tell just because you're
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  usually quicker to respond to me.
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  But like even just boundaries with your phone, you're like
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  amazing at that. Or like if there's something you
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  do not want to do, like sometimes I'll I'll kind of like
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  appease people if it's something that it's like not going to
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  affect me negatively. But if like you don't want to do
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  something or you don't agree with what someone's saying, like
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  you won't just agree to agree. Oh, yeah, if that makes sense.
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  Yeah. I like how you said that
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  because, yeah, I feel like that's just been like kind of in
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  the last year, I guess maybe I felt that way because.
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  But I feel like when they get when people get to know you,
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  I've felt that about you like that there's a true depth in you
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  since I've known you. Oh.
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  That's so nice. I don't know that I would have
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  known that until we became really good friends.
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  OK. Because I did.
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  I I do, like always see you as like my rainbows and
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  butterflies, friend. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And like, you'll even say like
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  you, not in a weird way, but like, you do have like this
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  childlike essence in you. And I think that that's amazing.
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  And it's not like a weird, like immature kind of like thing.
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  It's just like. Like someone that's in the
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  Teletubbies or something that's not.
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  No, do anything like weird. You're just like you don't you
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  take life seriously, but not so seriously where it's like just
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  cuz you're 40, you shouldn't be doing something like Oh yeah,
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  you're not like that. Like you, you'll try anything
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  that's like, I don't know, it's so I feel like that balance of
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  your personality is not something that always comes
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  through on Instagram, but I think it's like super, it's
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  honestly probably one of your like, I think things that comes
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  through the strongest when you're actually friends with
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  you. Oh, I love that.
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  Thank you. I asked Bobby to answer it and
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  he said, well, he didn't say you're lazy, but he said like, I
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  think. Yeah, I I get one.
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  OK, keep. Going He was like, people on
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  Instagram probably think his time is so weird.
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  So it's like you have a guide and then you have a book or
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  you're working on something else and then you have something else
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  creative you're working on and you have all these ideas that
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  you like bring to life. Yeah, yeah.
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  And he was like, but you really love to just do nothing, which
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  is so. It is so true.
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  And I don't care. I I honestly totally fine.
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  Like I don't love like when we were talking, I forget who it
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  was at the rot era. I'm not like a rot person like I
• 18:28
  don't well. I questioned it.
• 18:31
  Because the porch a little okay so that.
• 18:34
  Porch seems a little rot era. We can have sections to our
• 18:37
  personality. That's the table section.
• 18:41
  Yeah. Can we say one thing that we
• 18:43
  don't think people would necessarily know on Instagram?
• 18:45
  That's maybe not the most positive thing about each other.
• 18:48
  Oh, sure. OK.
• 18:49
  OK. Do you have one for me?
• 18:50
  I have one for you. You go first.
• 18:53
  I would just say like, I don't think, especially with how like
• 18:56
  your creatives are and like little bits of like seeing
• 18:58
  what's behind you. You guys are cluttery people,
• 19:02
  you and Bobby. And I don't think people would.
• 19:05
  Yeah. And I just never like.
• 19:07
  Are you looking at like this is driving you crazy?
• 19:09
  Right now, no, what I'm saying is like behind you right now,
• 19:11
  like it looks like your your house is beautiful, like you see
• 19:14
  on Instagram your ferns hanging with like your chickens in the
• 19:18
  background and stuff. But like that's not looking at
• 19:22
  the other side of something that's like a pile of, you know,
• 19:25
  things. Yeah.
• 19:30
  So that was something that I actually I learned that the most
• 19:32
  this trip. Oh for sure, there was no hiding
• 19:35
  that. Also because I was really
• 19:37
  panicked because I had about 3 days to.
• 19:39
  We also ambushed your house. Yeah.
• 19:41
  So in my in my kitchen, it's I kind of have this thing of if I
• 19:46
  can't see it, it's not there, at least for.
• 19:48
  Now see it. Oh no, no, the kitchen cabinet,
• 19:52
  which I only go into like, I don't know, five times a day,
• 19:55
  but it's like for a second. So anyway, so that because I
• 19:58
  knew I'm thinking before you all come to stay with us.
• 20:01
  It was the first you were in the Airbnb, so I was like, OK, I
• 20:03
  have time to like. Living with us, yes.
• 20:07
  Yeah. But Oh my God, you've seen how
• 20:09
  quickly I ran into the house after we got back from putting
• 20:12
  stuff in our van from like, I was like, Bobby, we have to go
• 20:16
  home fast because I have to go into the kitchen.
• 20:18
  I have to clean that, but clean the cupboard that there's
• 20:21
  nowhere for them to put their snacks.
• 20:23
  Still, The funny thing about is your cupboard I would never
• 20:25
  think of like I would never look at that.
• 20:27
  It's just like it's a pantry that's full of stuff, you know,
• 20:29
  that's like similar to ours. It's more of the like little
• 20:33
  piles of things like on your kitchen island, how it's like
• 20:37
  always in conscious you it's Bobby too.
• 20:39
  This is. Not.
• 20:40
  Bethany thing? No, no, no.
• 20:42
  Yeah. So I don't know that people
• 20:43
  would necessarily know that or think that of you.
• 20:46
  No, I prefer to keep that secret, yeah.
• 20:49
  Well, it's out there now. Like, yeah, oh gosh, I can't
• 20:55
  think of anything negative really about you because that's.
• 20:58
  Not really, that's not. That's not, that's like, quirky.
• 21:00
  That's like, yeah, it's not a negative thing at all, but it's
• 21:04
  not like I wouldn't say that to anyone.
• 21:06
  Like you'd have to be my close friend to say like, hey, you're
• 21:08
  kind of cluttered. Like I'm not going to walk into
• 21:11
  someone's house that's actually very cluttered and be like, you
• 21:13
  guys are kind of cluttered. I'll judge internally.
• 21:16
  I don't ever want to. OK, that scares me more than
• 21:19
  anything. Is you judging internally, not
• 21:20
  you. I wouldn't judge you internally.
• 21:23
  You would do it outwardly I. Mean I I completely had you redo
• 21:28
  your porch. I know, but you, you, you.
• 21:31
  It's a roundabout way of telling me because what I think you'd
• 21:35
  really like to say was you said at one point kind of but nicely
• 21:38
  where you were like, did you think that we weren't going to
• 21:40
  like redo anything on your back porch before the trainer and
• 21:43
  you? Yeah, Yep.
• 21:45
  That was a real thought that came to mind.
• 21:47
  So it came out of my mouth. Well, this is how I posed it to
• 21:52
  you. I was like I said, like I think
• 21:54
  we could give it a little facelift, like feel like it
• 21:56
  would make you feel good. And whenever I say something
• 21:59
  like making you phrase, you're like, yeah, say less.
• 22:02
  Take me to target fine, I love it good well and I have this
• 22:05
  like weird fear. I don't ever.
• 22:07
  I love my mom so much so hopefully if she's listening she
• 22:09
  doesn't take. I don't know if I should say it
• 22:13
  Well, OK, so. I said something about my
• 22:16
  mother-in-law last one but not negative.
• 22:18
  It's again how people take it, but.
• 22:20
  OK, well, so whatever. You're comfortable with.
• 22:22
  My family was in town, we were over at my mom's house and my
• 22:25
  niece and nephew were over there.
• 22:27
  And I was, like, playing with them with this little toy
• 22:29
  basketball. And we were throwing it around
• 22:31
  in the family room where the TV is and whatever.
• 22:36
  And we're having so much fun. And they Jack or someone
• 22:40
  accidentally threw the ball and it, like, hit something.
• 22:42
  Nothing too crazy, but it just, like, potentially could hurt
• 22:45
  something in the living or break something.
• 22:47
  Yeah. And my mom kind of got upset
• 22:49
  with him. And I was like, Oh my God, like
• 22:52
  we only see them so many times. Like the last thing I want to be
• 22:55
  remembered for is someone who's like, don't hurt my lamp.
• 22:58
  Like to. Me, I I never want to come
• 23:01
  across as uptight, even though in my head part of me is
• 23:04
  slightly uptight with some things, obviously not my porch
• 23:07
  table, but like things where I don't want someone to think back
• 23:11
  and think like, whoa, like she was so uptight about that
• 23:14
  because in my mind I was thinking we can replace the lamp
• 23:17
  like totally. We're having so much fun with
• 23:19
  this little stupid ball. Like let's just.
• 23:21
  And then he ended up getting kind of upset with her because
• 23:24
  he was like in a new teen talk back kind of face.
• 23:28
  And I was like, Oh Jesus, I don't.
• 23:30
  Like OK. I'm not on that side of it.
• 23:33
  I'm the fun aunt that plays with the ball, Yeah.
• 23:36
  Literally. OK, come on, you got to think of
• 23:39
  something for me. I can think of plenty.
• 23:43
  Oh, because I don't think that you like being super tidy and
• 23:48
  clean. Freaky is bad.
• 23:50
  OK, that's good. OK.
• 23:52
  I don't think that's bad either. I was going to say something
• 23:54
  like, I don't care if you air my like I don't think people would
• 23:57
  know that I'm extremely comfortable with bodily
• 24:00
  functions around very close friends.
• 24:03
  That is true. Well, we talked about poop for
• 24:05
  like, what, 4 1/2 minutes straight almost.
• 24:07
  It felt like yeah. And I literally farted in front
• 24:09
  of Bobby twice. No, but you were in the you were
• 24:12
  in the kitchen and you tooted and it sounded kind of like not
• 24:16
  just like air. It was like, whoa, like what's?
• 24:20
  Going like do you need to go check your?
• 24:23
  I was having a little bit gut problems.
• 24:25
  And you were like, I have to get it out before Bobby comes out.
• 24:28
  Yes. And then it was like the final
• 24:30
  day on we're like biking. And I'm like, it's just is what
• 24:34
  it is. Oh, that's right, that.
• 24:37
  One was that just snuck out. Oh, and then you were like,
• 24:40
  oops, it just popped out and like what?
• 24:42
  Like you can't control it. Like I have to mentally think
• 24:45
  I'm clenching if I I didn't. Try that hard.
• 24:48
  I could have tried harder, yeah. OK, so that's something.
• 24:51
  Yeah. All right.
• 24:52
  I inspire to be the cleanly. I am clean.
• 24:55
  Let's just say that. But yeah, you're not dirty
• 24:57
  clutter. The table was dirty.
• 24:58
  You should see the table right now it's just like so cluttery
• 25:00
  it would make you crazy. How does that happen?
• 25:04
  I honestly, there's potential in everything that's in here.
• 25:07
  That's what. It is, yeah, I get that.
• 25:09
  I might need this over here. I might need this nail Polish
• 25:13
  that I used 1 1/2 weeks ago, but I might need it today.
• 25:17
  That's what happens. Yes.
• 25:19
  See, that's the type of stuff is like.
• 25:21
  If you get something out and you use it, it doesn't get put away.
• 25:24
  Yeah, that's it. Yeah, but that's Bobby too.
• 25:26
  That is not just sure. One thing that I will say is
• 25:28
  hilarious. I don't know if he's just so
• 25:31
  like, in this way, like Casey would probably say something to
• 25:34
  me is when we go into your garage gym and we, like, take
• 25:39
  stuff out. I'm like, oh, I should put
• 25:40
  everything back. You'll leave it all out.
• 25:43
  Oh, yeah. And then Bobby picks up after
• 25:46
  you. I'm like, you go, girl.
• 25:50
  Like he doesn't. Does he say anything?
• 25:53
  No, he's just very nice to me in that way.
• 25:56
  I mean, Case is very nice to me too, but like he would like, hey
• 25:59
  Hon, when you like take out your.
• 26:01
  I don't know if he would actually.
• 26:02
  I know I would. Well, it's even like little
• 26:04
  things. It's just weird.
• 26:06
  And your relationship works so well.
• 26:07
  Ours works really well. Different dynamics where like
• 26:10
  how you and Casey sometimes talk to each other, where you'll get
• 26:12
  on him for something, which is like, yeah, of course.
• 26:15
  And he's like, sure, honey. Or he'll even he'll say
• 26:19
  something where it's like he responds in a way that's like,
• 26:22
  OK, yeah, of course. Yeah.
• 26:23
  Where I do that to Bobby, No, it's just it's not okay.
• 26:28
  This is why you heard me say, hey sugar, a lot like it's very
• 26:32
  nice to each other. Yeah, I know exactly what you're
• 26:36
  talking about. So obviously we were staying in
• 26:38
  your small spare bedroom, which is great, but like we got to
• 26:42
  keep it organized if we're going to have three animals in there
• 26:45
  and two humans. So he did his laundry and like
• 26:49
  with me when I did, I don't care if at home you do your laundry
• 26:51
  and it sits for a day or two before you put it away.
• 26:54
  But there I'm like you, you cannot pile it on the couch.
• 26:57
  Like like it's just, we cannot. So we're going on like day 2 of
• 27:02
  me being like, hey, can you please like put your laundry
• 27:04
  away? So it was the third time I had
• 27:06
  asked. I was like, hey, I'm like you,
• 27:09
  you got to go put your laundry away.
• 27:11
  So I think he was like really nice about it cuz he's like, Oh
• 27:13
  my God, she's asked me now like really nicely twice.
• 27:17
  And then you're like, Oh my God, like if I told Bobby to put his
• 27:19
  laundry away. Yeah, it's just like little.
• 27:22
  Table. He would get annoyed.
• 27:24
  Well, it's like if I go in which in the hall bath, which is my
• 27:27
  favorite bathroom to use. Although I love my master
• 27:32
  bathroom, it's like barely a room, but because the new shower
• 27:36
  head, which I love so much. So but I go into the bathroom in
• 27:40
  this hallway and we've been married for a while.
• 27:42
  So like the doors open. His his office is directly in
• 27:46
  front of it or you can see it when you're like on the toilet.
• 27:49
  Yeah. And so his doors open.
• 27:51
  I'm just peeing, by the way. And so I look in clothes
• 27:54
  everywhere, clothes on the clothes on the couch, clothes on
• 27:57
  the floor, in the corners. And I am like, in my head, this
• 28:00
  is where I am like, oh, my God, that's so messy.
• 28:03
  Like, this is making me crazy. I just want to look over there
• 28:06
  and see cleanliness. Yes, because I can see it.
• 28:08
  It's like, yes, I go to the bathroom quite often, you know,
• 28:11
  whatever. So.
• 28:12
  But if I go in there and can we clean this up?
• 28:14
  Like, you can help you. Well, which is very annoying to
• 28:19
  him, but I feel like it softens it in the moment.
• 28:20
  It doesn't. Yeah, but can I like put some of
• 28:23
  your stuff away and I'll say it like that And he's like, he gets
• 28:25
  very annoyed. He's like, no, like I that's
• 28:29
  what he'll do. No, he's not even saying
• 28:33
  anything. I think he's probably listening
• 28:35
  right now. He's not even saying anything.
• 28:36
  But it's just like I'm like, so that's the thing.
• 28:40
  I wonder if there's something, a dynamic we could go deeper, I'm
• 28:44
  sure at some point, but on how they were raised or like how we
• 28:47
  were all raised with like confrontation.
• 28:49
  Yes, I know that I do have to watch like because I am very
• 28:53
  forward and blunt. And so when you're so
• 28:54
  comfortable with someone that can come off as like bitchy.
• 28:58
  And that's like not my, that's not my goal because I know that
• 29:02
  that is something that makes Casey very uncomfortable.
• 29:06
  It's like really like he loves my like forwardness and but he
• 29:11
  doesn't want me to be and I don't want to be like mothering
• 29:14
  to him. No, no, no, So I have to.
• 29:15
  But we are have a very different like that's where I have to work
• 29:20
  on it and I've I've gotten a ton better with it where he needs to
• 29:23
  work on. He knows this is the the thought
• 29:27
  went in and it left like you've seen that with him too, of like
• 29:32
  he will act like he hears me on something and then it's just
• 29:35
  like, where did that even go? So that's where my like third
• 29:39
  time of saying something, I have to literally take a deep breath.
• 29:41
  Like that's the way that I said in front of you, which still is
• 29:44
  probably forward. That was very nice to me.
• 29:47
  Because I'm being nice, but it's like you are being forward where
• 29:50
  it works really well for the two of you.
• 29:52
  Just the way he responds. And it still is.
• 29:54
  Like, you know, there's love underneath that, but like, and.
• 29:57
  Slight annoyance. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 30:00
  Totally annoying. It's not like it's gonna turn
• 30:02
  into like, an argument. No.
• 30:04
  Where. That's why Bobby and I, we love
• 30:06
  that we're really nice to each other.
• 30:07
  Like, I mean, where I mean, we have moments, of course, where
• 30:12
  we're annoyed and we'll say something.
• 30:14
  But we've even talked about this where I don't mind
• 30:17
  confrontation. I actually kind of like it in a
• 30:19
  way because it gets you over the hump.
• 30:21
  It's really messy, uncomfortable.
• 30:22
  And then the other side is almost always so much better.
• 30:25
  Yes it's just communication but mine sometimes can come off.
• 30:30
  I'm not a debater by any means and I would hate to like have to
• 30:33
  debate something and like I don't like like talking about a
• 30:38
  topic or defending myself in a way.
• 30:41
  But when I'm arguing with him, it's almost like I was born to
• 30:44
  do this. I feel I don't know what happens
• 30:48
  to me but. He's probably just like.
• 30:50
  He hates it, Yeah. So it's like trying to come up
• 30:53
  with, like, what to say or what not to say.
• 30:55
  And so he hates that kind of stuff.
• 30:57
  He's gotten better because he can also see that after it's
• 31:00
  uncomfortable, it's not the worst thing in the world.
• 31:02
  We'll get through it, like. But yeah, yeah.
• 31:04
  It's funny. Oh, we could just go through all
• 31:08
  of that of like, talking. About like a therapist or
• 31:11
  something. Childhood stuff and and things
• 31:14
  like that. Oh so much.
• 31:16
  Oh my gosh. And then it's almost like that
• 31:17
  almost needs to be like on a Patreon or something because
• 31:20
  it's like. That's personal.
• 31:21
  That's. Very personal.
• 31:22
  Yeah, you gotta pay us to hear about our childhood wounds.
• 31:25
  Seriously. Or us talking about our
• 31:28
  husbands? Jeez.
• 31:29
  Because I feel like there's more to impact there then.
• 31:33
  Yeah, yeah, we love our husbands.
• 31:34
  It's just real relatable. Oh my God.
• 31:37
  We could start a Patreon. Is that still a thing?
• 31:39
  Yeah, I mean, I have two podcasts that I pay for and
• 31:42
  listen to on there. I love listening to their
• 31:44
  personal stuff. Wow.
• 31:46
  Yeah, it's the one I was telling you about, the two best friends
• 31:48
  that like made me wanna do this podcast with you in this kind of
• 31:51
  way versus it just being a dog training account.
• 31:54
  Yeah, I pay 5 bucks a month to listen to their Patreon.
• 31:57
  But they did their they did their normal for a while.
• 32:00
  Yeah, for a while. Yeah.
• 32:01
  To. Oh, that makes sense.
• 32:02
  OK, Yeah. OK.
• 32:05
  I love those questions, by the way.
• 32:07
  Right. Yeah, you should bring one every
• 32:08
  time. OK, I have about 15 others, but
• 32:10
  go ahead with yours. OK, mine aren't really any like
• 32:13
  questions, but just like topics. Yeah.
• 32:15
  So I didn't get a chance to read it, but I saw your title on your
• 32:19
  e-mail today of you almost quit dog training this week.
• 32:21
  Anything you wanna unpack there? I really, well, you know, like
• 32:26
  when you feel burnt out, even though we talked about this last
• 32:28
  time and this is what I touched on in the e-mail, where why
• 32:31
  would I be burnt out? I have one training dog.
• 32:33
  I barely have any dogs on the schedule and that's the reality.
• 32:36
  My creative side is going pretty well, but I just, I am so happy
• 32:40
  I don't have a training dog. I almost say this daily to
• 32:42
  Bobby. And so I overcompensate by like,
• 32:44
  what do you want for lunch? What do you want me to make for
• 32:46
  dinner? I like really tap into my
• 32:48
  housewife role in a, in a way that's like fun and not like
• 32:53
  he's holding me down or anything.
• 32:54
  I don't know. Is that what people think when
• 32:55
  they hear housewife? I don't know.
• 32:57
  No, OK. No, especially like I don't hear
• 33:00
  that all if they know Bobby. No, he'd be more of the
• 33:04
  housewife than than you are. And she was.
• 33:09
  Pissing for me. What's that?
• 33:11
  Yeah, picking up after me and bringing me coffee in the
• 33:14
  morning. Picking my alarm.
• 33:16
  That I went just just in the gym, like putting some away.
• 33:19
  Yeah, no. OK, so.
• 33:22
  But yeah, I was literally thinking like, I could go on for
• 33:26
  a while not training dogs. That's how I'm, I'm currently
• 33:29
  feeling. And I think it's maybe from
• 33:31
  feeling overwhelmed with like life stuff that have has
• 33:34
  happened. But I'm literally like, and I
• 33:36
  would say this to Bobby when we were on the porch this morning
• 33:39
  and I was like, I'm sure this will like go away and in maybe a
• 33:42
  month or something I'll be excited about training a dog.
• 33:44
  But right now I'm like, I would like to do anything other than
• 33:47
  that. Yeah.
• 33:48
  Yeah. So that's how that's where that
• 33:49
  came from. And is that something that you
• 33:51
  guys feel comfortable with and can do?
• 33:54
  Yep. Well then, what's your best
• 33:57
  life? Well, I mean, because I like
• 33:59
  making money. So for me it's more leaning into
• 34:02
  the creative stuff. And it would have to like, I
• 34:05
  don't know, like I have a boarding dog in right now,
• 34:07
  Chester Golden Retriever, who is a dream.
• 34:11
  Like if every dog I worked with was like him, I would just be in
• 34:14
  heaven. So then there's that, like,
• 34:17
  those are little reminders where, you know, not all dogs
• 34:20
  are really challenging. Yeah.
• 34:22
  Yeah. But so right now it's totally
• 34:24
  fine. It's just it's nice Bobby has a
• 34:26
  job and all of that. But I also like feeling
• 34:31
  purposeful and like, so working on creative stuff is more what
• 34:36
  I'm doing. Yeah.
• 34:37
  Totally. All right, So you're not
• 34:38
  actually quitting, but like you're just, you just felt like
• 34:41
  in that moment and. That's why we just can't help
• 34:44
  but say things out loud that I'm thinking.
• 34:46
  And I was thinking about, you know, how Casey was like, which
• 34:48
  I still, I still think about and giggle to myself in a way that's
• 34:52
  very loving and not like laughing at him, but like you
• 34:55
  were like, you don't have to make an alert like it's OK,
• 34:59
  which I love. I, I realized I think sometimes
• 35:03
  some like for myself, sometimes when I say something out loud
• 35:06
  that maybe most people wouldn't one, I'm fighting against the
• 35:09
  version of myself that never shared anything and always
• 35:11
  wanted to come across a certain way or whatever.
• 35:16
  I'm like, I really want to fight that person and just like, I'm
• 35:19
  going to say whatever and if you don't like, you don't like it.
• 35:22
  Also, I'm not trying to be like the perfect dog trainer or
• 35:25
  anything like that. So that kind of helps with that
• 35:28
  storyline. And the other part is when I say
• 35:30
  something out loud, it kind of holds me to it.
• 35:32
  So I was thinking about him with like Instagram and I was like,
• 35:35
  Oh yeah, I mean, I've done that before with Dog trainer Creative
• 35:39
  where I'm like, I'm gonna post more or you look forward to
• 35:41
  seeing me here more often and then I don't.
• 35:43
  Show up. Oh I've totally done that as
• 35:45
  well. It's just hilarious.
• 35:47
  The thing about it is like obviously you have the 2 pages
• 35:50
  but like you are the most consistent of posting on walking
• 35:52
  dog like. It's.
• 35:54
  Rare that you're not posting. So like, if you were to post
• 35:59
  like I'm gonna be posting more on dog trainer creative, I'm
• 36:01
  like, that doesn't seem weird to me.
• 36:04
  But if he were to, he was going to make an actual reel, not even
• 36:06
  like in a story. We were making a reel to
• 36:09
  announce this. And to me, I'm like, OK, when
• 36:12
  when was the last time you posted a reel just like that was
• 36:16
  something that you created for your page that wasn't like, and
• 36:19
  again, it it's not his page is different from a standpoint of
• 36:23
  like he's doing a lot of creating for other people.
• 36:25
  So it's like if he's not posting it on his or whatever, that's
• 36:29
  fine, whatever. But yeah, I was just like, we
• 36:32
  don't need to like everyone that we're going to be posting more
• 36:35
  content, which we've not done. I.
• 36:38
  Just love that so much. There's so many moments where
• 36:40
  it's like you really want to do the thing or like I think right
• 36:45
  now I'm in, I don't know, like it's not a phase.
• 36:48
  It's just today this is how I'm feeling where I don't want to do
• 36:52
  things where I feel like I'm forcing it.
• 36:54
  Now there are times where if I have a training dog in, we know
• 36:56
  it's like not always easy and I'm not looking for easy.
• 37:00
  But it is more like like 2 of my friends who are trainers who,
• 37:03
  you know, just asked me if I would take pictures for them for
• 37:08
  their website. And at first I was like, no.
• 37:12
  But then I thought, well it's gonna be fun like something
• 37:14
  different and why not? But I I don't like whenever I
• 37:19
  try to force something. Either it's a creative idea for
• 37:22
  like a guide or whatever or something I should be doing more
• 37:26
  often like dog trainer creative. I have a hard time sticking with
• 37:30
  it when it's like something I should be doing instead of
• 37:32
  something that I actually want to do.
• 37:35
  Yeah, yeah, I totally get that. OK, The other question or no,
• 37:41
  the other thing that I wanted to bring up that I was thinking
• 37:44
  about, so I don't know, something on my algorithm
• 37:47
  started giving me a bunch of Jersey Shore people again.
• 37:50
  Do you remember when Casey and I were like watching Jersey Shore
• 37:53
  back like all the seasons and we were like obsessed with it?
• 37:57
  Yes. OK, so I was thinking about
• 38:01
  because something on Pauly D came up on my feed the other day
• 38:05
  and I was literally geeking out thinking about the fact that you
• 38:08
  were saying that Bobby wears popped collars.
• 38:12
  Hate. But he doesn't.
• 38:15
  They are. I am so with Bobby on this one.
• 38:18
  No, they are the 1 you showed me.
• 38:20
  It's like they have cardboard inside the pop collar.
• 38:25
  Bobby's listening. He just walked by, smiled at me
• 38:28
  sideways. I'm I'm on Team Bobby for this
• 38:31
  one. No, I don't like it's.
• 38:32
  It's a collar that is popped upward instead of laying flat.
• 38:35
  Correct, but he's not wearing popped collars.
• 38:38
  I didn't know there was an actual term like.
• 38:41
  No. OK, so with it.
• 38:42
  So the no, the thing that I think about when you're like
• 38:45
  Bobby's been wearing popped collars.
• 38:47
  Like for instance, this is the type of shirt Bobby was wearing.
• 38:51
  Like it has this. Little.
• 38:52
  Yeah, so can you. It can pop it upward.
• 38:54
  This is like as much as it goes up, but like it's technically
• 38:56
  up. No, but I'm not popping my
• 38:58
  collar. He pops it.
• 39:01
  No, OK, but this is the way that I envisioned it.
• 39:04
  And I bet you people please comment and tell me what you
• 39:07
  think about. OK, When you think of a popped
• 39:09
  collar, I think of someone wearing like a button down shirt
• 39:14
  that has a collar that should be like down.
• 39:16
  You could put a tie under it or something.
• 39:18
  And that person pops it up and it's like a big popped collar
• 39:22
  around their neck. And it reminds me of like Pauly
• 39:25
  D because when they were younger, he used to like pop his
• 39:28
  collars when they're going out. Cap Zahia.
• 39:31
  And so then I'm thinking Bobby is wearing popped collars out in
• 39:38
  public with you like I. Know.
• 39:40
  Let's I know, but you're saying I know he's not doing.
• 39:44
  That, to me, he is. You guys.
• 39:46
  As this one hates a long sleeve top from lululemon where the
• 39:50
  collar should lay flat. Exactly.
• 39:52
  Athleisure. It's an it's not.
• 39:54
  OK, He points it towards the sky.
• 39:56
  I don't want OK, but it's more. So what his would be considered
• 40:01
  is more of like a mock collar. OK, well I hate a mock college.
• 40:05
  OK, there you go. I did not know that was a term,
• 40:08
  but here we are. All I'm thinking is literally
• 40:11
  Polly D and Bobby next to each other going out on the.
• 40:15
  Floor. I would cut those off at some
• 40:18
  point. I hate it and I've told him like
• 40:22
  25 times I don't like this and I, I know there's and also, but
• 40:26
  I tell him, but you can't tell me you don't like anything I'm
• 40:28
  wearing. By the way, this is whatever.
• 40:30
  But like like I have this one green sweater that I love
• 40:33
  because it is the perfect fit. It's not too long, not too
• 40:36
  short. It's light enough where I can
• 40:38
  wear it when it's not cold out. I'm not trying to protect myself
• 40:42
  from the weather, but it to me, it's cute to me in my mind.
• 40:46
  And he would have never told you about that Aunt Judy jacket.
• 40:50
  No, because he knows. Hearing about when you talk
• 40:52
  about jackets for the past nine days.
• 40:55
  Thank goodness I visited. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 40:58
  Which I do have a picture of me in it, but I don't want to post
• 41:00
  it because someone asks like did you see the you can't see the
• 41:03
  comments. I sent it to you, didn't I?
• 41:04
  Where she was like, I wish we could have a a like a showing of
• 41:08
  the jacket. Oh, I didn't see that comment.
• 41:11
  Oh and I agree if I post it like what if 10 people love it?
• 41:16
  I don't want to offend like let's just imagine what this.
• 41:19
  Jacket looks like it's not a bad jacket at all.
• 41:21
  No, it's just. It just wasn't.
• 41:22
  It was not you. And we're calling it Aunt Judy,
• 41:25
  just like my rings, Brenda. There's nothing against Brenda.
• 41:28
  There's nothing against Aunt Judy.
• 41:29
  OK, that's true. Yeah, like again, I don't.
• 41:32
  I don't care. I don't like a mock collar.
• 41:34
  I want it flat because I love when he wears the the long
• 41:37
  sleeve top where it's like no collar.
• 41:40
  It's great. I just, I have this like weird
• 41:42
  thing about guys that pop their collar.
• 41:44
  It's almost and I really hope you have no one in your life
• 41:47
  that drives this car. But I have a theory.
• 41:49
  OK. Do you know anyone that drives a
• 41:51
  Mustang? No.
• 41:52
  Oh good, thank God. OK, so my theory is anyone who
• 41:56
  drives a Mustang, especially guys, they're douches.
• 42:02
  They're just like they are trying to be way too flashy.
• 42:05
  Yeah, it doesn't mesh. It's like.
• 42:08
  Thank goodness Bobby has you, because he his dream car's a
• 42:11
  Porsche, right? And he wants it to be like a
• 42:12
  bright color. No, that's where I'm with you.
• 42:16
  Well, yeah, when he points out like a lime green portion, oh,
• 42:19
  look at that. I'm like bark nauseous.
• 42:22
  Yeah. Yeah, like that yellow
• 42:23
  Lamborghini going down Park Ave. Casey wants to go hang out
• 42:26
  there. I remember when we went by, it
• 42:29
  was this fancy car place, the Aston Martin car store, but we
• 42:33
  drove past you. I think Casey was sitting in the
• 42:36
  front seat with me and he was like, oh, that's a nice, I like
• 42:39
  blue in that and that or something.
• 42:41
  He was like, you were like, what?
• 42:42
  You want a sport? You like a sports car.
• 42:43
  You don't like sports cars. He was like, if I had a sports
• 42:46
  car, I'd want it in that color. And you were like, Oh my God.
• 42:49
  Thank goodness we're never getting a sports car.
• 42:51
  He's still driving his Subaru like Forster, which is nothing
• 42:53
  wrong with it, but like he's the least.
• 42:55
  That's one thing I will say, like, I think it's a funny thing
• 42:59
  and also like a very endearing quality of his is, you know,
• 43:02
  like some people, and I do see it like with men or like
• 43:05
  especially around here, like really like their trucks or, you
• 43:07
  know, are very particular about like what kind of car they
• 43:10
  drive. Casey could care less.
• 43:12
  He could. I mean, he could careless what
• 43:14
  phone he has. He does not need the latest and
• 43:16
  greatest of anything technology That's very different with like
• 43:19
  Bobby such a tech guy. Oh yeah.
• 43:21
  Where he wants like the new like Casey's literally like I, I
• 43:24
  could, I want a flip phone. Like genuinely, I think he would
• 43:27
  be so pleased to have a flip phone.
• 43:31
  Well, that's what makes it even more hilarious and wonderful
• 43:35
  when he put on that hat and he was in Park Ave. mode.
• 43:40
  He's. Wearing his canine hat that he
• 43:43
  wears all the time, but it's how he put it on his head then.
• 43:47
  It was popped up a. Little Oh yeah, he had it
• 43:49
  sitting a little higher, which is totally bro.
• 43:51
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah, he would probably look.
• 43:53
  I actually kind of like when he wears it like that, but like
• 43:55
  he's totally like looking like a bro.
• 43:58
  And it was all because vibes were going.
• 44:00
  That was the only reason we had it that way.
• 44:04
  It's so good. So much OK.
• 44:06
  One other story I had for you is, again, this has nothing to
• 44:09
  do with anything, and you don't even know these people, so I
• 44:11
  don't know if you'll think it's funny, but Casey told me it.
• 44:13
  So he got back from Phoenix late on Saturday night and he was
• 44:17
  telling me yesterday that he's like, Oh my gosh, I have a funny
• 44:22
  story. So his parents were flying
• 44:24
  somewhere and his dad has this jacket that he like won.
• 44:29
  And the brand is like Ariat. I don't know if you've ever seen
• 44:31
  it. It's like a no, it's Ariat.
• 44:36
  It's kind of like, I think it's like a hunting brand or
• 44:38
  something like that. I don't know.
• 44:39
  He just won the jacket. Like it's a nice enough jacket,
• 44:42
  but he wouldn't have like bought it.
• 44:43
  And it has a concealed carry area in it.
• 44:46
  It has like a little tag in it that like says something like
• 44:49
  concealed carry. His dad doesn't own a gun.
• 44:52
  He's the least like he's not a he's not concealed carry, but
• 44:56
  and it doesn't like you're not wearing the jacket and it looks
• 44:58
  like. Doesn't say like gun goes here.
• 45:01
  No, no, I would have never known.
• 45:03
  I've seen the jacket looks kind of like a North Face type, like
• 45:06
  lighter weight type jacket. But they're heading to somewhere
• 45:14
  and he goes to the bathroom on the plane.
• 45:16
  He comes out and the flight attendant's waiting right there.
• 45:18
  And he's like, Sir, do you have a gun?
• 45:20
  And Casey's dad's like, what? No.
• 45:26
  And so he's like, no, I don't have a gun.
• 45:29
  Like, I'm on an airplane. And the flight attendant is
• 45:32
  asking him if he has a gun. He must have when he got up the
• 45:37
  tag. That's like in the concealed
• 45:39
  carry thing fell out of his jacket and the flight attendant
• 45:43
  must have found it, said something like concealed carried
• 45:45
  and it came from him. Oh my God.
• 45:49
  So Caseys dad is like again, the reason it's so funny is like
• 45:54
  he's doesn't have a gun. Like he's not that kind of
• 45:57
  person, which I don't know what that kind of person is, but like
• 46:00
  he's just like the least likely on the plane to have a gun like
• 46:02
  a concealed carry and you're not even allowed to do concealed
• 46:05
  carry on an airplane like. Scan you for things.
• 46:08
  Right. So but the reason he's like, no,
• 46:10
  I don't have a gun. She's like, oh, OK.
• 46:12
  Like just sometimes we have air marshals on the flight and she's
• 46:15
  we didn't know if you were an air Marshall and I saw like your
• 46:17
  concealed carry thing fell out of your pocket.
• 46:20
  Bernie's just like, Nope, not an air Marshall.
• 46:23
  This jacket I won. Like I don't, I don't even have
• 46:25
  a gun. Like but like the so then he
• 46:29
  went back and sat next to Casey's mom and she was like,
• 46:31
  and he's like flight attendant asked me if I had a gun and
• 46:34
  she's like, what do you mean she asked you if you had a gun?
• 46:39
  Oh my God. I know, I thought that was so
• 46:40
  funny and like so random. The fact that that little tag
• 46:43
  fell out. That is so random Oh my God.
• 46:47
  His parents watch the farm show. Clarkson's Farm, Casey when they
• 46:53
  went there he had his parents and then his brother and her his
• 46:56
  fiance were there all Watch episode 1.
• 46:59
  Oh, really? Did I also tell you that Casey
• 47:01
  has us rewatching it because we finished, excuse me, season
• 47:04
  through season 4? He did.
• 47:07
  Now we're rewatching. Love.
• 47:09
  That yeah, but we're definitely gonna skip the Piglet episode.
• 47:12
  Oh yeah, skipped. That was.
• 47:15
  Rude to right? Season 2 or three, yeah.
• 47:18
  That was brutal. But it's interesting when you
• 47:19
  rewatch, which was this the second time you guys did rewatch
• 47:22
  with us or have you watched us a ton?
• 47:25
  How long has it been out? Oh my God I've watched it like
• 47:27
  17 times. Oh my gosh.
• 47:29
  OK. But so we're obviously only on
• 47:31
  the second time, but literally back-to-back rewatching it, we
• 47:34
  didn't even take a break. How many things that I've like
• 47:38
  missed or forgotten because now you know the characters so much
• 47:41
  even though they're real people. But so now like re watching it
• 47:44
  for the second time I'm like I feel like I'm re watching it for
• 47:47
  the first time I. Love that.
• 47:49
  Have you seen the mushroom part? Well yeah, cuz we which mushroom
• 47:53
  part? Where he has them, like in his
• 47:56
  little. Yes.
• 47:57
  Did you see the one where OK this is something no one would
• 48:00
  know about me and I'm I'm pretty sure I told you all but you
• 48:02
  might have misinterpreted it. I don't know cuz I made it sound
• 48:06
  like okay so anyway So what? So I think one of the most
• 48:10
  hilarious things in the entire world is when someone is about
• 48:13
  to vomit. You thought that with Casey, he
• 48:17
  was carsick. Yes, well, I felt bad kind of,
• 48:21
  though he didn't do like the heaving.
• 48:23
  It's when someone is like. Yeah, yeah, I think.
• 48:26
  That is the funniest. Thing.
• 48:27
  Oh my God, yes. So the one I don't like when
• 48:30
  someone actually vomits. That's disgusting.
• 48:32
  That would be like. A whole other thing, no?
• 48:34
  I agree. It was, yeah.
• 48:37
  The one in with the mushrooms where he like goes in and he
• 48:40
  looks in the tube and he almost throws up in his mask.
• 48:43
  Yeah, we were both case and they were both cracking up on that.
• 48:47
  That's the difference. It's like he was legitimately
• 48:49
  like gagging. Like when someone, Oh my God,
• 48:51
  it's similar if someone's like opening up a diaper or a garbage
• 48:54
  bag and they're like, it's like so funny.
• 48:57
  Have anyone seen the show? Have you seen the show Friends
• 48:59
  from College? That's really funny.
• 49:02
  I like the humor in it. But there's this one episode
• 49:06
  where they they see like a skunk in the forest, so it does the
• 49:11
  air thing or whatever, the stinky stuff, and then they all
• 49:13
  almost automatically start like peeving and like they all do at
• 49:17
  the same time. And then one actually throws up
• 49:19
  for two of them. But I rewound and watched it 10
• 49:21
  times because it was so hilarious.
• 49:23
  Well, it. Was kind of similar, which just
• 49:24
  wasn't them kind of gagging, but the chili when they were making
• 49:27
  the salsa or whatever. Oh.
• 49:29
  Yes, that was so fun. They're all like gasping for
• 49:32
  air, which sounds so mean to say.
• 49:33
  That's funny, but it's hilarious.
• 49:36
  When they were cooking it and then they all start coughing.
• 49:38
  Yes, yes. Oh my gosh.
• 49:41
  Can we ask you another question? Sure.
• 49:42
  And I also have a follow up from I got to pull it up.
• 49:47
  So the Q&A episode that we did where we had a lot of questions
• 49:50
  from other trainers. Oh, yes.
• 49:53
  OK. So do you remember the one
• 49:54
  asking us about the red flags with clients, the one with the
• 50:01
  two dogs where she ended up rehoming one of them?
• 50:05
  OK, so she ended up responding to me on Instagram and this was
• 50:10
  her feedback. So she said I came this was you
• 50:15
  know before actually bringing the dogs on for the board and
• 50:17
  train. She said I came out and did 2
• 50:19
  sessions prior to the board and trains because she was really
• 50:21
  struggling and could barely wait the six weeks to start.
• 50:24
  So I gave her homework and management tips.
• 50:26
  She didn't listen or do any of it and on drop off she told me I
• 50:31
  wanted you to be the bad guy first by giving them some rules
• 50:33
  prior. Oh, red flag.
• 50:35
  Red flag. Yeah, and she goes then during
• 50:37
  the board and train. So she's still.
• 50:39
  Again, this is nothing against the trainer.
• 50:41
  Whatever. But like that would have been no
• 50:43
  right? Like I would not have been
• 50:45
  trained the dogs and then then during the board and train she
• 50:48
  made comments on how they look sad and they weren't playing
• 50:51
  outside but that's because it was -4° outside and they were
• 50:54
  not. They were cold and not outside
• 50:55
  long enough to play. She didn't seem to care about
• 50:58
  tools much or crate or structure.
• 50:59
  But she did not like that I said no bed or blankets in the crate
• 51:03
  because they kept destroying one and would poop and pee on it.
• 51:06
  So yeah, handful of odd comments.
• 51:08
  In hindsight, it's better, but, well, no.
• 51:11
  I'm always hopeful owners will see the benefits and stick with
• 51:13
  it. Yeah, so that reminds me of
• 51:15
  that. You're such a fool owner I
• 51:16
  worked with. Yes, Yep.
• 51:18
  Like, OK, wow, OK, well that gives a much clearer picture.
• 51:21
  Yes, so I was glad that she gave that context too, because that's
• 51:26
  one of those things where again, I get the concept of like
• 51:29
  wanting to help and stuff like that, but you can't help with
• 51:32
  what doesn't want to be helped. Like she didn't, she didn't want
• 51:35
  help. She wanted a fix and she wanted
• 51:39
  someone to be the bad. Like that's where it's like that
• 51:43
  mentality of training means you have to be bad and like mean to
• 51:48
  your to your dog is ridiculous. And that doesn't mean that
• 51:54
  there's always easy moments that are the easiest, even for the
• 51:57
  human or us as a trainer to have to follow through on.
• 51:59
  But like if being mean means that they don't get a blanket in
• 52:04
  their crate, I can't. No, I think that's just like so
• 52:08
  many people. I don't because I don't think
• 52:10
  there's anything wrong with viewing your dogs as like your
• 52:12
  kids or what. I think that's like context.
• 52:15
  Sure, I think of Johnny as my little baby Angel, but he's also
• 52:18
  a dog. And you also have no problem
• 52:20
  with him sleeping on a Primo pad in a crate.
• 52:23
  No, no, no. Yeah.
• 52:24
  So I just think some people are way to that side.
• 52:28
  I mean. Oh my God, I would say I have
• 52:32
  phenomenal owners and I would even say a lot of my owners baby
• 52:35
  their dogs way too much, Way, way, way too much.
• 52:38
  But like I'm gonna pick my battles like it's the craziness.
• 52:42
  I will say is like, and I get it, my dogs both Rhodie is and
• 52:46
  again, it's a different, it's not the same.
• 52:50
  He's like truly needs warmth for him to be comfortable and like
• 52:55
  he's got health stuff. So like he can't have anything
• 52:58
  without a blanket, but he doesn't poop on stuff.
• 53:02
  He doesn't tear things up. He doesn't do anything naughty
• 53:06
  anymore. Does he have his little moments
• 53:08
  of being like, I still got that dog in me?
• 53:10
  Yes. But also it's like stop it.
• 53:12
  Like don't do that. I don't even need to justify
• 53:15
  that. I don't even.
• 53:16
  Need to no I I have no. Complaint to him, my dog.
• 53:19
  Barked when he was here. What's that?
• 53:21
  I was proud of him when he barked.
• 53:22
  It was kind of like when I see Johnny barked and I'm like, Oh
• 53:25
  my God, that's so cute because it's in relation to what
• 53:27
  actually is going on. It's kind of like if he's.
• 53:30
  Laying on his side barking at the pool man.
• 53:34
  I'm like, it's not like our dogs don't listen to us.
• 53:37
  I think that's the biggest thing.
• 53:38
  Like where I'd it's if your dog is being pushy with you, let's
• 53:43
  say on the walk with something, then life will look a little bit
• 53:48
  different than it does for an owner who is not struggling with
• 53:50
  their dog, whose dog is actually listening to them.
• 53:52
  Like it's so interesting where I don't know what when it was, I
• 53:55
  think it was when I got Johnny where I started sharing more of
• 53:59
  him on the couch. Where before that as a trainer
• 54:01
  on what I share on social media, I was very careful about what I
• 54:04
  shared because I didn't want to send the message of everyone
• 54:06
  should have their dog on the couch and all of that.
• 54:09
  Where I think it's it's not always the same for every single
• 54:15
  person and it's not always going to be super structured for every
• 54:18
  single dog, but some dogs, they really need it.
• 54:21
  It's helpful. They yes, genuinely need it and
• 54:25
  like, thrive on it, even if it doesn't necessarily seem that
• 54:28
  way right off the bat. Yeah, one example that I thought
• 54:31
  was so fascinating and it's just kind of points to how training
• 54:35
  doesn't equal your being mean or whatever, like at the trainer
• 54:38
  and you when you were doing the hands on stuff with Johnny and
• 54:42
  how he actually liked you more. He was obsessed with me after
• 54:46
  that. Yes, after you did a session
• 54:48
  with him of getting him on to place, saying no, getting him
• 54:50
  off when he'd get off or when he'd try to come to me.
• 54:53
  Yes, that was the biggest thing is I removed his comfort zone of
• 54:57
  access to you and all I did when I say I'm removed, that is he
• 55:00
  wanted to kind of like scurry over and pull up to Bethany and
• 55:03
  I disagreed with that and had him come back over by me.
• 55:07
  And after that like that was like, yeah, he once in a while,
• 55:11
  especially if Casey came out with me, would kind of look at
• 55:13
  like, oh, who are you? But after that it was like
• 55:15
  Jenny. And then he would like wiggle
• 55:17
  butt over by me or want to sit with me on the couch or zoomy
• 55:20
  with me like and that was all post that.
• 55:23
  It's like dogs crave leadership and it doesn't have to be like
• 55:26
  an alpha thing. It's just.
• 55:28
  They also crave like steady, like the what's the word I'm
• 55:33
  looking for? It's like that to me was not an
• 55:36
  emotional response to him. I, I, I had no feeling of
• 55:39
  because I knew I was not doing anything negative to him.
• 55:41
  He might have felt like that in that moment.
• 55:43
  It felt a little negative of like I can't access my mom, but
• 55:46
  like it was just so confidently no, no, bud, we're not going to
• 55:50
  go over there right now. And then he's like, OK.
• 55:52
  She seems pretty comfy. And even even though Louis each
• 55:55
  time has gotten more comfortable even after that of me working
• 55:58
  with her in the crate stuff and not letting her access Bobby at
• 56:01
  that one point, she was obsessed with me after that too.
• 56:04
  I. Know it's so fun like I just I
• 56:07
  know a lot of owners think I know this is what it is because
• 56:11
  it's kind of like if I start doing something different
• 56:14
  nutritional, why Like when I was working with a personal trainer
• 56:17
  a while ago and he wanted me to eat a certain way and I was very
• 56:20
  skeptical like, no, I've heard so many things online that I
• 56:24
  should not be eating this way or you don't really know how a
• 56:26
  woman's body works or all these like little voices where I.
• 56:31
  And I think I was probably right but I could have tried it to see
• 56:35
  what happened. But I think a lot of owners they
• 56:38
  have those voices in their head of like if you tell your dog no
• 56:41
  then they're not going to love you anymore.
• 56:43
  Where we see all the time that it's just the total opposite.
• 56:46
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:47
  And then there's just like some dogs that it's like, I almost
• 56:51
  want to shake certain owners of like, I feel like they are
• 56:54
  genuinely like, and I say, I say this in a way that I'm actually
• 57:00
  really feeling for the owner is their dog.
• 57:04
  They care way more about their dog than their dog cares about
• 57:07
  them. And I don't say that to be a
• 57:09
  jerk. That doesn't mean your dog
• 57:10
  didn't love you. But like you are putting way
• 57:14
  more value on like my dog has three blankets in their crate.
• 57:19
  I'm getting them a treat every single time I go out somewhere.
• 57:23
  They're giving me bare minimum effort.
• 57:25
  And I'm still saying like, good job and then I will handle a dog
• 57:31
  or something. And they're giving me 10 times
• 57:33
  more effort. They are talk about.
• 57:35
  What that looks like? Can you like?
• 57:37
  Yeah, So how I see it with an owner is First off, I don't even
• 57:43
  talk need to talk about my own dogs.
• 57:44
  I'm not even going to say that because I'm going to say like my
• 57:46
  dogs live a cushy life, but they also can be totally fine without
• 57:50
  having a cushy life, if that makes sense.
• 57:53
  Is I see like dogs in homes that revolve around their every
• 57:59
  moment. That doesn't always mean like
• 58:00
  that the owners constantly entertaining them like that
• 58:03
  might mean that the owners doing place halves them in their
• 58:07
  crates, but it's literally like the crate is their castle and
• 58:13
  it's done up so and again, I don't care if a dog is
• 58:16
  comfortable. That's not I, I want them to be
• 58:18
  comfortable, but they don't need every little thing you can
• 58:20
  possibly think of or every single time we get done with
• 58:23
  something we need to like give them a treat for it.
• 58:26
  Or you're on place and Oh my gosh, you've been on place for
• 58:29
  an hour and a half. So let me make sure you have a
• 58:31
  nice chew toy or something to lick or like just giving,
• 58:36
  giving, giving and the dog gives no effort back.
• 58:40
  OK, So what do you mean by that? Like getting out of the car and
• 58:45
  they're immediately trying to like put pressure and drag on
• 58:47
  the leash. Or they're in the car and they
• 58:49
  know that they need to be in a down and they're popping up and
• 58:51
  their owner's asking for the down and they're like, make me.
• 58:54
  Like being pushy. Yes, being pushy about
• 58:56
  everything and but then this owner this is.
• 59:01
  I see this a lot. I'm not talking about one
• 59:03
  specific owner, but literally gives this dog way too much time
• 59:07
  a day. Above and beyond.
• 59:09
  A way and above and beyond in a way that's slightly toxic of
• 59:12
  like this, your dog is never going to take it seriously when
• 59:15
  they literally don't have to want for anything.
• 59:19
  They don't need to want for your affection.
• 59:20
  They don't need to want for any sort of attention.
• 59:23
  And I'm not saying make them want for something in a creepy
• 59:25
  way of like withhold their food or anything like that, but like,
• 59:28
  yeah, give them a little less of you like make them work for
• 59:32
  your. When I have dogs come in that
• 59:33
  are that kind of MO, I'm not cuddling with those dogs.
• 59:37
  I'm giving them good. I might give you a little
• 59:40
  scratch into the chin or while I'm putting your E collar on a
• 59:42
  little rub on the ears. But like you also need to earn.
• 59:45
  Like I'm not going to be babying you and coddling and comforting
• 59:51
  you when I know every, even if a dog struggles with something,
• 59:55
  they come from a space of having like insecurities around other
• 59:58
  dogs on the leash or fearfulness of something.
• 1:00:01
  Like if you are not giving effort, I am not giving you any
• 1:00:06
  extra except for clear direction.
• 1:00:09
  And that's where we're ending. It is like you're getting clear
• 1:00:12
  direction from me. I'm not.
• 1:00:14
  I'm not doing extra. I'm going to make sure all of
• 1:00:16
  your needs are met. Does that make?
• 1:00:17
  Sense. Oh yeah, it's like a reciprocal
• 1:00:20
  relationship, which I do not think people think of what I
• 1:00:22
  think of having a dog. There are so many toxic dynamics
• 1:00:25
  between dogs and owners, and I don't think it's just an owner
• 1:00:29
  thing. And again, a dog's not looking
• 1:00:30
  at it that way. Like, let me manipulate this
• 1:00:32
  person. They just look as I can.
• 1:00:34
  Well, you know, 11 saying I don't know if it was you or
• 1:00:38
  another trainer. I think it was you because I'm
• 1:00:40
  pretty sure, I think it was when I called you about when I was
• 1:00:42
  working with years ago, this little Jack Russell terrier.
• 1:00:47
  And I was really struggling with her in the back of the car being
• 1:00:51
  super whiny. And so you were helping give
• 1:00:53
  advice on what to do. And something you mentioned was,
• 1:00:58
  well, The thing is either you said or someone else, you know,
• 1:01:02
  she's like being really pushy, right?
• 1:01:04
  Or something like that. Where it was kind of, it flipped
• 1:01:06
  my perspective where I think I was thinking more like an owner
• 1:01:09
  where it's, I mean, we're, we're soft with dogs, we're loving and
• 1:01:12
  all of that. But there's also a piece of us
• 1:01:14
  that's like we see things in dogs that owners don't where
• 1:01:19
  it's little things where if an owner sees a dog in the car,
• 1:01:22
  like not laying down when I asked or something, or I think
• 1:01:26
  some owners think it's something they're doing wrong where it's,
• 1:01:30
  I mean, that really changed a lot for me when I started to
• 1:01:32
  look at situations like, Oh no, the dog is being really pushy
• 1:01:35
  where I was saying that to an owner not too long ago on a
• 1:01:38
  virtual call where she was describing the situation in a
• 1:01:41
  very like emotional way. Always.
• 1:01:44
  And so when you are coming from that place, it's really hard to
• 1:01:47
  say no to certain things or be super structured when you're
• 1:01:50
  coming from an emotional space. When I was like, I was hearing
• 1:01:53
  everything she was saying and I was like, you know, Jeffrey, I
• 1:01:56
  don't know that was being, he's being really pushy.
• 1:02:00
  And I think that it will help you to look at that situation in
• 1:02:03
  that way so you can really come at it from a more practical
• 1:02:07
  mindset of you don't have to like coddle him to get him to be
• 1:02:11
  better. But it's more looking at it
• 1:02:12
  like, no, he's just being really pushy and.
• 1:02:14
  Super clear in that moment. Yes, I think it makes it a
• 1:02:17
  little easier to be clear when you can see it from that
• 1:02:19
  standpoint, because I think when you have a dog and or I do and
• 1:02:23
  we see certain things, we're like, oh, he's being so pushy.
• 1:02:26
  It helps us go at it from a different angle than an owner.
• 1:02:30
  And I think I see it quite often too, because I do my pack walks.
• 1:02:33
  Yeah. And again, all the pack, all the
• 1:02:35
  owners that come for pack walks are the ones that try so
• 1:02:37
  freaking hard. Yes.
• 1:02:39
  And I see, we'll see certain dogs.
• 1:02:40
  And the dogs are actually pissing me off because I'm like,
• 1:02:42
  I know you are much more capable and the owners trying really
• 1:02:46
  hard and they're giving their owner a hell of a time.
• 1:02:49
  Yeah. And those are the ones that I'm
• 1:02:50
  like, you guys like that. I want to say it's like those
• 1:02:55
  little dogs that I'm like, I swear they're in their head.
• 1:02:57
  Like I can manipulate this person even though they're not.
• 1:02:59
  That's, you know, humanizing the situation.
• 1:03:01
  But yeah, it's just, it's wild. And it's always funny too
• 1:03:06
  because like, I obviously spend majority of the time with the
• 1:03:08
  dogs when they're here. But like, Casey does all the
• 1:03:10
  first and last outs. And so he really gets to know
• 1:03:12
  the personalities. But it's kind of nice because he
• 1:03:14
  gets to interact with them in the ways that it's going to be
• 1:03:17
  like the typical daily routines for dogs and owners, like seeing
• 1:03:22
  them first thing in the morning, seeing them, you know, last
• 1:03:25
  thing at night. And he will, he knows it.
• 1:03:28
  He's like that dog's me, really pushy at home or that they're
• 1:03:30
  going to struggle with us at home.
• 1:03:32
  And Georgia, the Great Dane is one of those of like she when
• 1:03:35
  she's out of her crate and doing stuff, she's the easiest to work
• 1:03:39
  without of the crew that I have right now.
• 1:03:41
  She loves it. She's sweet as pie.
• 1:03:43
  She's so fun. But with Casey, he told me this
• 1:03:46
  last night and I didn't realize this.
• 1:03:48
  She doesn't do this with me if he doesn't have her E collar on
• 1:03:52
  because this crew, I will say like if we're just going out for
• 1:03:54
  potty breaks and stuff, I can just pop them out there without
• 1:03:56
  their E collars on right now and they're listening beautifully.
• 1:03:59
  If he doesn't have the E collar on her to come in for last outs,
• 1:04:03
  she will come in, but then she won't go to her crate.
• 1:04:06
  She'll look at him like, no, I'm not going.
• 1:04:08
  She tried running upstairs to the upstairs portion of the
• 1:04:10
  kennel room. So Casey's like, so I had to
• 1:04:12
  walk up there and he's like, I'm not going to just keep yelling
• 1:04:14
  and like her not come. So went and leashed her up and
• 1:04:18
  brought her down and he's like, so now what do I do?
• 1:04:19
  Every single time I put her on her E collar so I can hold her
• 1:04:23
  accountable. And I'm like, it's funny because
• 1:04:25
  she doesn't do that with me. Like I can put her right into
• 1:04:28
  the kennel, but that's because I'm having every interaction
• 1:04:31
  with her daily. She's giving me any sort of like
• 1:04:33
  pushback or whatever. I'm staying consistent and clear
• 1:04:35
  with it and it's no big deal. Yeah, that's like an owner I
• 1:04:41
  worked with Hazel's owner who you were here when Hazel was
• 1:04:43
  here part of the time. And she mentioned something
• 1:04:47
  about because I did a episode on different podcasts and she was
• 1:04:53
  like, oh, this is helpful to hear because Hazel's been
• 1:04:57
  barking and not listening to recall when she's in the
• 1:04:59
  backyard. And I was like, OK, yeah.
• 1:05:01
  I mean, I totally see that. I don't know if the E collars on
• 1:05:06
  in these moments like stuff like that where I think it's just
• 1:05:09
  like Casey going up, getting the leash, putting her back in and
• 1:05:12
  knowing OK, from now on I got to put the E collar on it's.
• 1:05:14
  One extra step that we need to take, which is not that big of a
• 1:05:16
  deal. Yes, I think.
• 1:05:18
  And she had to get corrected for it, he said.
• 1:05:20
  I had to correct her pretty high the first time.
• 1:05:22
  She and then has not had an issue since.
• 1:05:24
  Yes, it's really simple. Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  Even like with a dog like Hazel. Well, then it's not just going
• 1:05:30
  to be easy with like, letting a dog off in the backyard, not
• 1:05:33
  having a leash on. Like you need to set it up so
• 1:05:36
  that when she doesn't recall to you, you can provide a
• 1:05:39
  correction for that, add clarity, and then it will just
• 1:05:42
  feel so different. I just think a lot of people try
• 1:05:44
  to get from A-Z, even though sometimes I think especially
• 1:05:49
  after a board and train, it can feel very kind of easier because
• 1:05:52
  the dog is listening. They're in that routine and then
• 1:05:54
  the loosey goosey stuff happens in small ways and then a dog
• 1:05:58
  isn't listening for some stuff and then you have to go back to
• 1:06:01
  B. And the thing I start seeing a
• 1:06:02
  lot, I don't know if you do, and I think it's again because I
• 1:06:06
  have more like the pack walks and stuff like that.
• 1:06:08
  I see a lot of my owners consistently and I do a lot of
• 1:06:12
  boarding, but is I find that we run into a lot of almost making
• 1:06:20
  excuses for their dog of like, so let's just use this example.
• 1:06:24
  I'm not even saying that this happened.
• 1:06:25
  The dog's not Downing in the backseat.
• 1:06:28
  The the dog knows they literally every single time they were in
• 1:06:30
  my car, they were in a down. They they're never sitting up in
• 1:06:33
  my car just because I like to practice that.
• 1:06:35
  Do I care if long term dogs are sitting and not causing any
• 1:06:38
  issues for their owners? No, but a lot of times that's
• 1:06:41
  not that. That's not the thing.
• 1:06:42
  So it's like, Oh well, they must have not wanted to lay down on
• 1:06:46
  this thing. Stop.
• 1:06:48
  Like why? OK, you're not asking to lay
• 1:06:52
  down on lava. Like once there's a bag they
• 1:06:54
  have to maneuver around like no, that I see a lot of like.
• 1:06:59
  Making. Little excuses for their dogs
• 1:07:01
  or, you know, say the dog didn't want to get his nails done that
• 1:07:05
  day or something like that. Oh, you know, maybe it's just
• 1:07:08
  because, you know, they needed to go outside and go potty.
• 1:07:11
  And I'm like, come, come on. I think this is something where,
• 1:07:16
  like, it depends on what people are prioritizing and
• 1:07:19
  unfortunately we know that those little things add up.
• 1:07:22
  And also it can be annoying 'cause it's like, you know how
• 1:07:24
  to do this. Like yes, don't be pushy in this
• 1:07:26
  moment. Yes, where an owner they let
• 1:07:29
  that slide and it's just like it's just not that important to
• 1:07:32
  me until something bad happens and they reach out for help and
• 1:07:36
  it's like, but it's it doesn't always have to get to that
• 1:07:39
  point. Like it's where an owner is
• 1:07:40
  coming to see me Friday. I'm really excited to hang out
• 1:07:44
  with her and her dog. I know it's going to be a lot of
• 1:07:48
  talking kind of like it's a therapy session, which is fine.
• 1:07:51
  Like I think a lot of times owners need that and I don't
• 1:07:56
  mind that. But it's how many times do you
• 1:07:58
  have to hear that to actually get it?
• 1:08:01
  And again, we can be there. I don't mind being there for her
• 1:08:04
  and I've gotten on phone calls with her and she's such a great
• 1:08:07
  owner and super supportive me and everything I do.
• 1:08:11
  But it'll be interesting to hear like after something happened
• 1:08:14
  before where her dog bit someone, how is the conversation
• 1:08:18
  going to go? Because that's more a situation
• 1:08:20
  like that makes it way more black and white.
• 1:08:22
  Then I don't work with dogs who are biting people.
• 1:08:25
  I don't work with human aggressive dogs.
• 1:08:27
  But I feel like that's going to kind of shift how serious the
• 1:08:31
  conversation is and more like little things are a big deal.
• 1:08:36
  You know, and we can't, like we can't continue to because I
• 1:08:42
  think you said that this dog was also one that bit for the second
• 1:08:45
  time. Like that's where sometimes we
• 1:08:47
  have to look in the mirror of like, or if I get certain owners
• 1:08:51
  or it's like my dog bit my child.
• 1:08:54
  Like I'm way less patient about something than like my dog
• 1:08:57
  reacted on the leash. Well, reactivity is it can truly
• 1:09:00
  be a super tough journey. Yeah.
• 1:09:02
  But like my question is how? Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  How? Uh huh.
• 1:09:08
  And that answer is hard to give. Like I know it's hard for an
• 1:09:13
  owner to have to say, but I think sometimes it's important
• 1:09:15
  for them to have a space to say it out loud where it's like, I'm
• 1:09:21
  not judging. I am questioning how because
• 1:09:24
  like I get we're all human. We all have, you know, so many
• 1:09:29
  things going on besides just making sure that we're doing
• 1:09:32
  right by our dogs training. Like I get that.
• 1:09:36
  But if there is a dog in a situation using kids, it's like,
• 1:09:41
  why are they not kenneled then if they if they need
• 1:09:44
  supervision? And I think every dog around a
• 1:09:46
  child should have supervision. And that's just me coming from a
• 1:09:49
  space of I have two dogs, even birdie that I would not have
• 1:09:53
  unattended around. She's not used to kids like I'm
• 1:09:55
  I just wouldn't that like that there would be no.
• 1:10:00
  How did that happen? Even if it meant that my dog had
• 1:10:03
  to get, you know, more kennel time than what they're used to
• 1:10:05
  or something like that. I think that that's something
• 1:10:08
  that we could like drill all day of some of the things where it's
• 1:10:11
  like we, we truly mean when we say you don't have to be perfect
• 1:10:15
  to get to a really great space with your dog.
• 1:10:18
  I truly believe that. But if you do find that it's
• 1:10:22
  like struggle after struggle after struggle and you know that
• 1:10:28
  your dog is capable and you've seen the capabilities of them to
• 1:10:31
  not struggle every single moment of the day or every walk or
• 1:10:37
  every like interaction. Then you have to check in like
• 1:10:41
  you have to check in with yourself and you have to check
• 1:10:43
  in with your lifestyle with your dog because there's something
• 1:10:47
  not clicking and it's not just your dog and it's not just you.
• 1:10:52
  It's, I'm sure combo of both of them.
• 1:10:56
  But yeah, I just feel like it's something where it's like we
• 1:10:59
  could talk about this until we're blue in the face and we'll
• 1:11:04
  still have job security. I need our help.
• 1:11:07
  Yeah, well, and I, I'm actually really looking forward to her
• 1:11:10
  coming here on Friday 1 because I really like her and she has
• 1:11:12
  mentioned before plenty of times like she knows it's her.
• 1:11:16
  So I think even just having a space where she can feel
• 1:11:19
  supported and reassured with it could be little things like I, I
• 1:11:23
  am excited. I feel like we are such nice
• 1:11:25
  people, by the way. I think so too.
• 1:11:28
  Why? Because I think there are
• 1:11:29
  trainers out there who would not be as supportive because the one
• 1:11:34
  thing like we're doing this podcast was because we want to
• 1:11:36
  keep in touch and literally my favorite day of the week now.
• 1:11:40
  And so, but another part is we do want to help owners.
• 1:11:43
  And I think this is the piece of it where separate from the dog
• 1:11:47
  training, there is that like emotional piece of it that I
• 1:11:51
  don't think we can talk about enough.
• 1:11:53
  And so it's kind of like with this owner on Friday, I can meet
• 1:11:57
  with her as many times as possible or get on the phone
• 1:12:00
  call or it's kind of like sharing stuff on Instagram.
• 1:12:03
  We can say the same things over and over and still some people
• 1:12:06
  still need to hear it. And I think that's just kind of
• 1:12:08
  how it is. Can I ask you a question before
• 1:12:10
  we get off? OK, What time?
• 1:12:12
  Oh, it's 111. Make a wish.
• 1:12:14
  OK, let's see. I have.
• 1:12:21
  OK. What's something you still feel
• 1:12:23
  insecure about as a trainer and. We answered this about
• 1:12:27
  ourselves, correct? Yes.
• 1:12:30
  OK. God, I have so many.
• 1:12:33
  Well, I guess I could answer it in multiple ways.
• 1:12:38
  Something that I can feel it and it'll be kind of like a, you
• 1:12:45
  know, dependent on the dog. But when I will have a situation
• 1:12:49
  with a dog that I feel like should be kind of like
• 1:12:52
  relatively straightforward and easy and it's just like they're
• 1:12:56
  not getting it. Like they're like still being
• 1:12:59
  really pushy on heel even though they're not like a pushy dog or
• 1:13:02
  they're like still breaking out of their downs.
• 1:13:04
  When I'm like, Oh my God, we've done this a bazillion time.
• 1:13:07
  So then I'll start to be like, what I do differently with this
• 1:13:09
  dog? Am I not mentally there?
• 1:13:11
  Am I not like giving them the same sort of like clarity and
• 1:13:14
  context? I actually have one dog in right
• 1:13:16
  now who's he's made such great progress, but he's making me a
• 1:13:19
  little insecure because he's an 8 month old golden.
• 1:13:21
  And I'm like his owner, I when I talked to her on the phone and
• 1:13:24
  stuff was like, yeah, I definitely didn't like see him
• 1:13:27
  as like insecure. And I, he's like one of the most
• 1:13:30
  insecure 8 month old like Golden's I've ever worked with,
• 1:13:33
  like afraid of everything and like she didn't like experience
• 1:13:38
  him that way. So me, I'm like, Oh my gosh,
• 1:13:40
  like that kind of can make me insecure.
• 1:13:42
  It's like an owner sees it so differently than what we do.
• 1:13:45
  So I'm really curious this week. I'll see them her Wednesday and
• 1:13:49
  then the full go home is on Thursday.
• 1:13:51
  Like if that'll bring out something different in him.
• 1:13:55
  And again, he's sweet as pie, but like so insecure.
• 1:13:57
  So that can make me insecure of like I'm experiencing a dog
• 1:14:01
  completely different than their owner and kind of in a negative
• 1:14:04
  way, if that makes sense. So we'll get some dogs that like
• 1:14:06
  don't react with us at all. And the owner's like, Oh my
• 1:14:09
  gosh, it's clearly me. And like the dog's doing amazing
• 1:14:12
  and so good. And then another dog will come
• 1:14:15
  in. It's like 8 month old golden,
• 1:14:17
  you know, I'm thinking easy peasy lemon squeezy.
• 1:14:20
  And I'm like, Oh my God. Like he's tougher to work with
• 1:14:25
  than like his 4 1/2 year old brother who I thought would be
• 1:14:27
  kind of stuck in his ways and like a need a little bit more.
• 1:14:32
  No, it's the complete opposite. So that can make me a little
• 1:14:34
  insecure sometimes of like, what am I doing that you're not
• 1:14:38
  getting it like that? You're not getting on.
• 1:14:40
  And then I have a lot of people, not a lot, but like I like even
• 1:14:43
  today, most of my virtual coaching sessions of recent have
• 1:14:46
  been with other trainers. So like even today I had one
• 1:14:51
  where they were talking about something like very behavioral
• 1:14:53
  that I was working on them through.
• 1:14:55
  And I'm like, so then I'll get in my head.
• 1:14:56
  I'm like, I have people paying me to give them advice.
• 1:14:59
  And it's like, there's still things I struggle with which
• 1:15:02
  you're going to, but I can get a little bit like in my head about
• 1:15:05
  that sometimes. Oh yeah.
• 1:15:06
  But honestly, I I can also talk myself through it of like, this
• 1:15:10
  is a different living being every single time we're handling
• 1:15:13
  a dog. Yeah, I love that.
• 1:15:15
  I like hearing about things you struggle with.
• 1:15:18
  Good and I'm definitely insecure when it comes to like on the
• 1:15:22
  social media side. I will say like I don't get
• 1:15:26
  super fixated on like followers or anything like that anymore.
• 1:15:30
  But like my engagement used to be and I think it was also
• 1:15:33
  because way less people were posting, you know, six years
• 1:15:36
  ago. But like all of my reels used to
• 1:15:38
  get at least 10,000 views and that sounds like, you know,
• 1:15:41
  bragging or but I'm I'm not. So it's like sometimes I'm like,
• 1:15:45
  what's the point of you been doing them when I'm like
• 1:15:47
  people's not people aren't seeing them.
• 1:15:49
  It's like, well, that's just also not true, but.
• 1:15:53
  I loved your graphic today. Thanks.
• 1:15:55
  Your sister did that. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:57
  So I've been having her do a lot of like old posts, the
• 1:16:00
  repurposing type thing of like give it a fresh vibe and fresh
• 1:16:03
  look and everything. So that muzzle one was one that
• 1:16:06
  I send to like all owners that are gonna have to muzzle
• 1:16:10
  condition prior. And there was also just like a
• 1:16:12
  popular one that I did probably about a year and a half ago.
• 1:16:15
  So yeah, she gave a nice fresh look and it looks so good.
• 1:16:18
  Love it. We should do some like collab
• 1:16:21
  reels. Yeah, I feel the same way about
• 1:16:23
  reels. I just don't like them.
• 1:16:24
  I love doing our collabs. So fun.
• 1:16:26
  I have an idea. Actually we could do one.
• 1:16:28
  Awesome. We have some cool stuff too that
• 1:16:30
  we're going to do. Casey has some ideas.
• 1:16:33
  So. OK.
• 1:16:35
  We'll see how and I get to like kind of lean into a little bit
• 1:16:37
  more of my I love being an actor.
• 1:16:40
  That's so fun. I might do some rants and I, I
• 1:16:43
  think I might encourage you to do some similar things where
• 1:16:46
  it's just kind of like. On board of the rant.
• 1:16:48
  OK, cuz if you think about it like I when I am scrolling
• 1:16:51
  sometimes I am very drawn to specific things.
• 1:16:55
  So I think about that like what am I drawn to and why?
• 1:16:58
  And like the rants are great because they seem very real and
• 1:17:01
  in a world that can feel kind of like fake and AI and like all
• 1:17:04
  that stuff. I, the thing I'm most drawn to
• 1:17:07
  is things that are different. And so that's also sometimes
• 1:17:10
  hard because it is so different. And so it can feel like, will
• 1:17:12
  anyone like this or. But I think if we give ourselves
• 1:17:17
  like a creative challenge, which I can come up with and we can
• 1:17:19
  do, and then it's a little more fun that way.
• 1:17:22
  Totally OK. What are you insecure about when
• 1:17:25
  it comes? To the list is long, not the
• 1:17:29
  creative side. That's my favorite.
• 1:17:32
  I think I'm a little insecure about right now how my waiting
• 1:17:40
  lists non existent. So I think that's something in
• 1:17:42
  the past I've always like correlated with well, I'm not a
• 1:17:45
  good dog trainer if I don't have a wait list or compared to other
• 1:17:49
  trainers. I mean, one of the first times
• 1:17:51
  we met and I had a panic attack that I didn't have a wait
• 1:17:53
  waiting list. So I think part of that where I
• 1:17:59
  kind of wish that I like when I'm talking with you and I'll be
• 1:18:04
  totally honest, where I know you're super supportive of me
• 1:18:07
  and whatever. But I'm a little self-conscious
• 1:18:10
  about the fact that I don't have to like hustle with board and
• 1:18:13
  train dogs or that I can send home a board and train dog and
• 1:18:17
  that I don't have another dog on the schedule until a few months
• 1:18:20
  from now. And that doesn't bother me.
• 1:18:22
  I kind of wish, part of me feels a little guilty about that, that
• 1:18:27
  I wish I did have that like, I don't know, like the the board
• 1:18:33
  and trains right now just to kind of back up the trainer part
• 1:18:37
  of me, even though I'm really loving leaning into the like
• 1:18:41
  books and whatever on like the trainery, but not the physical
• 1:18:46
  working with dogs. I think that's my biggest
• 1:18:48
  insecurity for sure. It's interesting because it's
• 1:18:50
  like a big insecurity, but also like what you wanna be doing
• 1:18:54
  also. Yes.
• 1:18:55
  So that's. Probably like conflicting in
• 1:18:57
  your own brain. Yes, 'cause I feel like it's,
• 1:19:01
  yeah, I feel like I should be having more dogs.
• 1:19:04
  But then the other part of me is like, I'm really happy not and
• 1:19:06
  there are still things I'm working on.
• 1:19:08
  Yeah, yeah, that's something that it's like a conflict.
• 1:19:12
  Totally. Yes.
• 1:19:12
  In my head. That's fair, yeah.
• 1:19:15
  That's cool. Well, I feel like we covered a
• 1:19:17
  lot of ground. Yes, one hour and 19 minutes.
• 1:19:22
  OK. All righty.
• 1:19:24
  Well, I'm going to go try to survive the the snowstorm, the
• 1:19:27
  apocalypse. OK, you know what I mean.
• 1:19:33
  We should maybe just give up on that and just end it with our
• 1:19:35
  like, I don't know how. Just end it.
• 1:19:39
  All right, talk to you soon. Oh, no, what?
• 1:19:42
  Never mind. I just got it.
• 1:19:45
  I just. It's not Wednesday.
• 1:19:46
  Never mind. Did you have a brain wave?
• 1:19:48
  What? Brain wave yes, No, never mind.
• 1:19:51
  I will talk to are you going to, you're going to post this for
• 1:19:53
  Wednesday though, right? Yeah, on Wednesday.
• 1:19:55
  OK, awesome. And your birthday.
• 1:19:57
  Yay 34. Happy early 34.
• 1:20:00
  Do you feel older? It's actually weird because on
• 1:20:03
  my notes we didn't get about get to it, I wrote feeling weird
• 1:20:07
  about your 34. Are you really so we can?
• 1:20:10
  Say that real quick. What?
• 1:20:11
  I just, I just, it feels like, and I mentioned this to you,
• 1:20:14
  like there's a lot of things that like, I don't know why 34
• 1:20:18
  going to 35 ish, you know, is making me put a lot of like
• 1:20:21
  thoughts and like what do I want in my personal life?
• 1:20:24
  What do I want in my business life?
• 1:20:25
  And I not, I don't know why this number is.
• 1:20:27
  And I think it's probably just like a biological clock is like,
• 1:20:29
  do I want a kid like that is like stressing me out And I'm
• 1:20:34
  like, I I feel like I shouldn't be putting that kind of stress
• 1:20:40
  on it. Then it's like doesn't even make
• 1:20:42
  the idea of thinking about it fun.
• 1:20:43
  I so like that's been like a big.
• 1:20:46
  Why you had that dream? That I ran over a top.
• 1:20:49
  I was going. To say that at the beginning,
• 1:20:51
  but I didn't know if you wanted to like.
• 1:20:52
  Yeah, no, that's OK. I just don't want like from a
• 1:20:55
  standpoint of, you know, I don't want opinions from people of
• 1:20:59
  like. Oh, you should or you shouldn't.
• 1:21:01
  Or why? Yeah.
• 1:21:02
  And if people have like stuff of like, you know, they relate or
• 1:21:06
  they've been there that, you know, that's different.
• 1:21:08
  But like everyone tells me, well, you'd never regret having
• 1:21:12
  one. Of course not like of course I
• 1:21:14
  wouldn't regret my child. Like I'm sure I would be
• 1:21:17
  obsessed, but there's certain aspects of my life I look at
• 1:21:20
  that I'm like, am I? It just makes me my thoughts are
• 1:21:24
  consumed by that of recent and it's almost.
• 1:21:27
  Decision. I know.
• 1:21:28
  And so then to me, I'm like, if there's so much that I'm like, I
• 1:21:32
  don't know, like do I? You know?
• 1:21:34
  So that's where I don't even know if I can get pregnant
• 1:21:35
  either. We've never tried.
• 1:21:37
  It's obviously very personal, but I don't care.
• 1:21:39
  It's my thing to share. And also I'm kind of like, if we
• 1:21:43
  did try and we didn't, I'd also be OK with that.
• 1:21:45
  Yeah. So I don't know.
• 1:21:47
  So that's where like going to year 34.
• 1:21:49
  I know that a lot of women do have children even later in life
• 1:21:53
  than that. But Casey and I will be married
• 1:21:55
  this year, 10 years. Like, I'm sure I've already had
• 1:21:58
  people be like, oh, I'm surprised you guys don't have
• 1:21:59
  kids yet. I'm sure there's like,
• 1:22:01
  assumptions of maybe we can't. Maybe, you know, we just haven't
• 1:22:05
  had the major urge at this point.
• 1:22:08
  So that's where it's like I've been feeling just I'm going to
• 1:22:12
  be 34. Oh my gosh.
• 1:22:14
  Like my biological clock is ticking.
• 1:22:16
  And yes, yeah. So that's.
• 1:22:19
  A big, big thing. So that makes sense why it would
• 1:22:21
  one show up in your dreams, which I'm pretty sure that's
• 1:22:23
  what that was. Well, then I even think about
• 1:22:25
  like, you know, doing the trainer news.
• 1:22:27
  It's like, you know, I know, you know, we could do daycare or
• 1:22:31
  whatever. I even think about like some of
• 1:22:33
  the moms coming to it and it's like such a big thought that
• 1:22:35
  they have to like put into coming to something like that is
• 1:22:40
  like, you know, they have a child now and it's like, you
• 1:22:44
  know. A lot of different side streets.
• 1:22:48
  Yes, yeah, yeah. And then also like Casey and
• 1:22:52
  I've kind of talked, I don't know if it would even actually
• 1:22:54
  really do it, but like actually talked about do we even want to
• 1:22:57
  live here anymore? Of like in of course I would
• 1:23:01
  love to be able to afford and maybe we could, I don't know,
• 1:23:03
  like a home in one area and keeping this house as well for
• 1:23:07
  like, you know, half and half time.
• 1:23:10
  But then I'm like, Oh, I don't want to leave like my sister and
• 1:23:12
  Elouise and my parents. And so just I had a lot of like
• 1:23:18
  usually my thoughts and stuff were what do I want to do with
• 1:23:22
  my business next? Such a space.
• 1:23:24
  And that's where I feel very like thankful and confident that
• 1:23:27
  I'm like, that's not where I'm at right now.
• 1:23:29
  Like I've got plenty on the schedule.
• 1:23:31
  I've got creative stuff I'm doing.
• 1:23:32
  I've got things I love, like the trainer and you I love looking
• 1:23:35
  forward to. So it's, those are much easier
• 1:23:38
  decisions for me to make because I'm very confident in like the
• 1:23:42
  business side of things of me. But it's more of like the
• 1:23:44
  personal stuff that I'm like, Oh my gosh, like, yeah, it'll
• 1:23:48
  impact me more than, yes, my business is how we make money.
• 1:23:52
  But like if we needed to change course tomorrow, we would figure
• 1:23:56
  that out. Yeah, from a business aspect,
• 1:23:58
  but from a personal, I don't know, I just feel like there's
• 1:24:01
  so much more weight in those decisions.
• 1:24:03
  It's like a whole new phase. Yeah, so 34 is doing something
• 1:24:08
  to me. And I don't know if other people
• 1:24:09
  have experienced this, but I'm not afraid of getting older.
• 1:24:11
  I think it's a privilege to get older.
• 1:24:13
  I think, you know, same. I, I feel so blessed to have
• 1:24:17
  another year. It's just 34 is still very
• 1:24:21
  young, but it feels like teetering on the side of like
• 1:24:24
  for a woman, it just feels not super young.
• 1:24:27
  Yes, a clock is ticking. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:31
  Wow. That's it.
• 1:24:32
  That's a whole other episode. We.
• 1:24:34
  Ended on that. We started talking about this.
• 1:24:36
  I want to talk more, but you know, we're not trying to go to
• 1:24:39
  a 2 hour podcast episode. Next but.
• 1:24:42
  That's like, that's very relatable.
• 1:24:43
  Yeah, it's just so many things. And it's just so interesting how
• 1:24:46
  it's all these different things that you're thinking of that
• 1:24:49
  doesn't have to do with. Even talking it's like I know
• 1:24:54
  like it what it does, it would change everything.
• 1:24:57
  But like, I even think like I don't want that to change our
• 1:24:58
  friendship, like, you know what I mean?
• 1:25:01
  But like, just like I love being able to go and we can visit you
• 1:25:03
  guys for three weeks and we can jump on bikes and go do whatever
• 1:25:07
  we want. We can, you know, it would be
• 1:25:09
  like if we're visiting you with a kid, it's like, sorry guys, we
• 1:25:12
  need to come back for nap time. Like, and I know a friend like
• 1:25:14
  you'd be like, cool, can I take a nap?
• 1:25:16
  Like, yes, I want to do nap time.
• 1:25:18
  But yeah, it's just stuff like that that I'm like, I think I'm
• 1:25:21
  putting too much pressure on the thoughts around it that it's
• 1:25:24
  like, that's just me. And I know that that's how I am.
• 1:25:28
  I think about I overanalyze things and but I'm also a risk
• 1:25:33
  taker. But you can't feel like a risk
• 1:25:34
  taker of having a child. Well, maybe some people are.
• 1:25:37
  I that's yeah, I can't. Well, I feel like everything
• 1:25:41
  with your life and your friendships and your family, it
• 1:25:44
  would all fall into place how it's supposed to.
• 1:25:46
  Like I think if I was in my 20s and a friend had a baby, it
• 1:25:49
  would be a little weird because I'm like, oh, Thursday I'm going
• 1:25:51
  to ladies night. And so next, the next day I'm
• 1:25:53
  going to be hungover or something where I know for me
• 1:25:56
  when you all were here and I think I told you when you
• 1:25:58
  brought the kids stuff that I like kind of before you even
• 1:26:01
  brought that up, I was like envisioning cause Casey is so
• 1:26:03
  cute with like how he talks to the dogs and it's the most
• 1:26:07
  adorable thing ever. And it's almost like.
• 1:26:10
  Oh, I think he would be like literally the best dad on earth.
• 1:26:13
  The best. Yeah.
• 1:26:14
  And I think I'd be a really. Yeah, I think I'd be it's it's
• 1:26:17
  less about like, I know we would kill it.
• 1:26:19
  Like that's that's not what, but like.
• 1:26:22
  Lifestyle stuff and things. Around Yeah and like, you know,
• 1:26:25
  hear so many people talk about like how moms like lose
• 1:26:28
  themselves and like I love that I can like go to my workout
• 1:26:32
  classes whenever I want. I can, you know, do those things
• 1:26:35
  that it's like for me that I think I'd think having a kid and
• 1:26:40
  like being pregnant is the least scary part.
• 1:26:42
  It's like thinking about like postpartum of like even just I I
• 1:26:47
  just would be, I know that I would be very sensitive to that,
• 1:26:50
  but I'm also a go getter. So you.
• 1:26:52
  Really, I don't know. I don't know, see this could be
• 1:26:55
  a whole other. I'm sure other people are
• 1:26:56
  listening to this and either feeling like I've been there or
• 1:26:59
  they are there or I don't know. But that's where my brain has
• 1:27:03
  been putting way too much thoughts.
• 1:27:07
  I like. I think about it every single
• 1:27:08
  day. Well, I would be excited to fly
• 1:27:11
  up and visit. I know.
• 1:27:15
  Is it weird that I thought the other day I literally thought
• 1:27:17
  this yesterday I was like, because we were watching a show
• 1:27:19
  where some they were in the delivery room and I was thinking
• 1:27:23
  like, Oh my God, if Kate go to the delivery, can I sit in the
• 1:27:26
  waiting room? Is that too much?
• 1:27:27
  Would her family be like, hey, this is family time?
• 1:27:30
  Not their call. What?
• 1:27:32
  Not their call. OK, well so I isn't that weird.
• 1:27:34
  I thought of that like I haven't talked to you about kid stuff
• 1:27:37
  since you were here. I know you, I know would be like
• 1:27:40
  the best Auntie Bethany ever. Like I don't even question that.
• 1:27:44
  And I know you would support me and like be whatever I need in
• 1:27:48
  that as well. I think the biggest thing is I,
• 1:27:52
  I don't know if I'd be a person that would have a hard time
• 1:27:53
  asking people to help me because I do.
• 1:27:57
  I, I, I don't know, I have no idea.
• 1:27:59
  Oh, see, I wouldn't picture you as that.
• 1:28:02
  Yeah, I don't know. And I feel like maybe it's
• 1:28:03
  because I'm also a little control freakish of like I would
• 1:28:09
  ask someone to help me with something but then to.
• 1:28:12
  Do it a certain. Way, yeah.
• 1:28:13
  And so then I'd have to. I'm sure that that changed.
• 1:28:16
  But when you're thinking about like a tiny human that you're
• 1:28:18
  like, you don't want to mess up. I don't want to mess up a kid.
• 1:28:22
  No. So I don't know, OK.
• 1:28:25
  We need to pick this back up. Seriously.
• 1:28:27
  Well, and then I think about Casey.
• 1:28:28
  This is also a whole nother thing again.
• 1:28:29
  He would be such an awesome dad, but he's such a worrywart about
• 1:28:32
  like health stuff in general, which is understandable.
• 1:28:36
  But it's like, I wouldn't want to feel like, you know, those
• 1:28:39
  types of things I'm like doing on my own or taking on.
• 1:28:42
  And I know moms already take on so much mental load that it's
• 1:28:47
  like, I don't know, I just, I wouldn't want it to.
• 1:28:51
  It wouldn't ruin a dynamic, but change a dynamic in a way that I
• 1:28:54
  really feel like is a really good dynamic.
• 1:28:56
  Yeah, well, I feel like the great thing about you 2 is you
• 1:28:59
  communicate really well. We try to.
• 1:29:01
  We have our moments of it not being good communication.
• 1:29:04
  Well, I think it's better when it's some kind of communication.
• 1:29:07
  There's always communication like.
• 1:29:08
  When I went to which, by the way, this book should not be
• 1:29:10
  sitting on this chair, this table.
• 1:29:12
  For you're gonna organize once we hang up.
• 1:29:15
  This book the cost of quiet So when we were at the boomers
• 1:29:18
  house and we were leaving so nice.
• 1:29:20
  She was like, are you 2 readers? Do you like self personal
• 1:29:24
  development was like, yes. She was like, OK, here's this
• 1:29:27
  book. It saved our marriage.
• 1:29:28
  And that was like the the cost of quiet.
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  How to have the hard conversations that create
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  secure, lasting love. And I handed it to Bobby because
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  I was like, I don't need this. By the way, I have no problem
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  talking about hard stuff. I really don't.
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  Well it's like that silent treatment thing is way worse
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  than even like yelling. I have done that love.
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  That's terrible. I've done that as well too, but
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  it's like that and I I see it in certain relationships and I'm
• 1:29:52
  like, that is like that's. Really uncomfortable, like I
• 1:29:56
  almost did that after pickleball when y'all were here with Bobby
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  because he really upset me because he was mean to me.
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  I don't know what he did. This is what I'm saying.
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  We're so nice to each other. So when any of us.
• 1:30:04
  Is eating and it that's OK that it's he didn't it wasn't like
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  super mean, but it felt like a. Brief wasn't like calling me
• 1:30:12
  names, but he like yelled at me during pickleball and I was
• 1:30:15
  like, oh, I don't, don't do that to me.
• 1:30:18
  Yeah. So I shunned him to the car and
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  then. Which I'm glad you didn't like.
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  Try to unpack it in the car while we're in there.
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  No, but I was also like, oh Jesus.
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  Like I can't just silent treat him with two people here.
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  Yeah, that's not fair to them. So anyway.
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  But yeah, you OK? Wow, a lot of things.
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  Yeah, we have. We apparently I came in a funk
• 1:30:39
  last week and we still have things to talk about.
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  But this one, I'm annoyed with the snow, but it is what it is.
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  But I'm not in a funk. I've just had no apparently a
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  lot to talk about and we haven't.
• 1:30:47
  It hasn't even been a week. Oh my gosh.
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  Apparently. We should have two.
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  We should just do them when we feel like doing them.
• 1:30:55
  I would love that so much. We.
• 1:30:56
  Need to have our set, but it's something that we feel yeah, we
• 1:31:00
  need to have our set because I just know how we both operate
• 1:31:02
  myself. I need to have it on the
• 1:31:03
  schedule. That is where you might get busy
• 1:31:06
  baking and doing nothing, gardening and doing gardening
• 1:31:09
  and doing nothing. But yeah, if we need to do
• 1:31:11
  another one later in the week, I'm.
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  Telling you because sometimes Wednesday.
• 1:31:14
  Is the rules around here? Yeah, just We do.
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  We do. I don't care about.
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  You know what I mean? OK, talk to you later, OK?
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  Bye.