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10-30-26 - JK Dobbins vs The Media/Broncos Defense vs Chiefs Offense/Nuggets @ Suns preview · The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane

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  Speaker 2: It's a Bud Light football Friday. Nelly in the holiday spirit.
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  Speaker 2: Little Ron Burgundy action going on over there.
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  Speaker 3: Go bleep yourself, Kansas City.
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  Speaker 2: See, Nelly has what, again, I don't know how you
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  Speaker 2: guys do it. I have facial hair. It's just a
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  Speaker 2: little breeze of a beard, we'll call it. Nelly can grow, like,
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  Speaker 2: if you wanted to, Viking-level.
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  Speaker 4: Beards.
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  Speaker 2: And your beard grows back in a day. so you're
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  Speaker 2: able to just shave everything off except the mustache. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: there's a jealousy that's in this.
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  Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I don't know if it's my dad's
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  Speaker 5: side of the family. It's funny you say Vikings. They're
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  Speaker 5: all a bunch of Norwegians, and you got to have
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  Speaker 5: a thick beard to survive the winter, so I assume
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  Speaker 5: that's where I got it from.
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  Speaker 2: Probably right, yes. So what's my excuse? I'm a Russian and...
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  Speaker 2: German and Irish. Not exactly warm.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Irish clearly won. Russia and Germany didn't even try, man.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I think I'm minusculely Irish. Like, just
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  Speaker 2: a little baby tint. But it all came through. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: as we get ready for the Halloween weekend, I do
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  Speaker 2: want to address... Something that happened yesterday. And Nelly, I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember if I sent this to you last night.
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  Speaker 2: It should be on somebody's board, though. And it was
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  Speaker 2: the entire J.K. Dobbins interview. J.K. Dobbins. I mentioned this Monday.
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  Speaker 2: He looked upset. He didn't speak to the media after
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 4: He.
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  Speaker 2: I've said that it looked like to me. That was
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  Speaker 2: a guy who witnessed his job being taken from him
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  Speaker 2: in real time. That he saw Jonah Coleman run and
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  Speaker 2: the plays that he made were just different than anything
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  Speaker 2: that a running back has done for the Broncos so
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  Speaker 2: far this year. And because of that, J.K. Dobbins, who
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  Speaker 2: he is going to push back against all of this
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  Speaker 2: in a minute, by the way, who I think for
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  Speaker 2: running back ages is a little bit older than He's
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  Speaker 2: been in the league now for, this is his sixth year. Seventh, actually.
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  Speaker 2: Got here in 2020. It just doesn't have the same
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  Speaker 2: burst as it did last year. Last year, I thought
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  Speaker 2: he was a really good running back until the injury.
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  Speaker 2: And now he just kind of looks like a guy
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  Speaker 2: who's been in the league for a while and has
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  Speaker 2: suffered a lot of injuries and just doesn't have the
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  Speaker 2: same oomph to his runs. Jonah Coleman in a limited
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  Speaker 2: sample size seems to have it. And so with that, J.K.
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  Speaker 2: Dobbins speaks to the media yesterday in a very, very
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  Speaker 2: defensive tone. And it went for a while. Talking about,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not old. He used the.
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  Speaker 2: And when you do find this, Nelly, you can just
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  Speaker 2: play it off your computer and we'll just start and
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  Speaker 2: stop because there's a lot that he's going to address
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  Speaker 2: that I'd like to address. But here's what he did
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  Speaker 2: back and forth with the media yesterday. This is how
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  Speaker 2: it started.
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  Speaker 4: You're used to being the top dog, right?
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  Speaker 2: How is it for you personally when the kids are
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  Speaker 2: running ahead of you as they did in the second
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  Speaker 2: half of the last game?
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  Speaker 4: Well, did you watch the game? Yeah. You watched the game?
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  Speaker 4: So what did I do in the first half? Your
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  Speaker 4: first two carries, 13 yards. Second carry had a nice hole,
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  Speaker 4: 5 yards. And not too much after that. But how
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  Speaker 4: many carries did I have in the first half? Four
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  Speaker 4: or five?
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  Speaker 1: Five?
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  Speaker 4: For how many yards? I think it was four. How
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  Speaker 4: many yards? How many yards? 23-something. Does that sound right?
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  Speaker 4: So what's the average of that?
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  Speaker 2: Four-something.
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  Speaker 1: Four?
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  Speaker 4: Five and a half. Five and a half. I'm a
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  Speaker 4: math guy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: So... All right, pause for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Four carries for five and a half yards per carry. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's a good number. The counter would be, well, what's
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  Speaker 2: your yards per carry on the season? Because you've had
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  Speaker 2: 87 of those, and the yards per carry is 3.4.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to beat up on J.K. Dobbins. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I like him. I like him as a human being, like, first.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's a very engaging person. Secondly, I think
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  Speaker 2: when he's healthy, he's a good football player. And he
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  Speaker 2: just hasn't been that good this year. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's okay to acknowledge this stuff. But it continues. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: I was going 5-23.
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  Speaker 6: Well, so then if you go to the second half,
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  Speaker 6: I had the touchdown run, which was one yard.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And then, like, we were winning pretty good.
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Weren't we? Yeah. And everybody's wanting me to play 17 games, correct? Correct?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So can you take that into account before you start
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  Speaker 6: saying stuff like that?
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  Speaker 4: Because coaches have a plan.
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  Speaker 2: I've wondered this, by the way. I wondered how much,
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  Speaker 2: and not even wonder, I knew. You know, when he's
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  Speaker 2: doing pinky promises with Andy Lindahl about staying healthy for
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  Speaker 2: 17 games, part of me thought, man, you can't force
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  Speaker 2: yourself to not get hurt. It's not how this works.
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  Speaker 2: And if your mindset is like, my goal is I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to play in every game this year and you're
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  Speaker 2: hell bent on that, then you can, I think you
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  Speaker 2: play differently. Maybe you don't take a risk in a
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  Speaker 2: place like burying your shoulder into somebody. Maybe you run
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  Speaker 2: out of bounds without taking contact. Maybe you, maybe you
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  Speaker 2: try and play through an injury that you shouldn't, that
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  Speaker 2: either hinders your play on the field or Or put
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  Speaker 2: you at risk for getting hurt further. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things on J.K. Dobbins' mind right now that I
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  Speaker 2: think he's prioritizing incorrectly. And if you ever needed an
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  Speaker 2: example of players saying, we don't listen to what you
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  Speaker 2: guys say, we don't read your newspapers, we don't listen
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  Speaker 2: to the TV shows or the radio shows, here's an
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  Speaker 2: example of why I think that's nonsense. Not to say like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we're super important, but if somebody's talking about you, you'll
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  Speaker 2: probably hear about it. Nelly, if I told you somebody
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  Speaker 2: made a 30-minute YouTube video about you, would you watch?
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  Speaker 3: Was it good stuff or bad stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Either way. I'd be curious.
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  Speaker 3: I would be curious.
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  Speaker 2: You would see some of it. You would get the
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  Speaker 2: tone of what they're saying about you. Look, man, I
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  Speaker 2: don't have a high, how do I put this? The
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  Speaker 2: way I feel about myself, it's a very low standard
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  Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say. This job isn't important.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not important, okay? I don't have some ego about me, truly.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very important.
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  Speaker 2: That's why when people say, like, I suck or something
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  Speaker 2: like that, whatever. Okay. But if you told me that
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  Speaker 2: somebody made an entire YouTube video about me, I'd probably
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  Speaker 2: go check it out for a couple of minutes and
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  Speaker 2: just be like, whoa, what are they saying? And if
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  Speaker 2: they rip me, I'd be like, oh, I guess that
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  Speaker 2: guy hates me. Okay, cool. But they know. The point
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  Speaker 2: in all this is they know. And you heard that.
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  Speaker 2: When J.K. Dobbins is going, you want me to play
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  Speaker 2: 17 games, right?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no clearer indication than that. But continue.
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  Speaker 6: Because the coaches have a plan. This organization has a
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  Speaker 6: plan for me. And I'm always there to coach my
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  Speaker 6: young guys. Like I've said this from the beginning, RJ
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  Speaker 6: is my rookie. You know, and then we got another
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  Speaker 6: rookie in Jonah. I'm coaching them to make their plays
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  Speaker 6: because I want to see them succeed.
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 4: We were up by a lot.
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  Speaker 6: I want to win the game. And I also want
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  Speaker 6: to win in the playoffs and eventually, you know, get
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  Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl. So to say, oh, no, we're
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  Speaker 6: winning the game. You keep calling me a vet.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not old.
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  Speaker 6: I'm 27 years old. Not old, not 30, not even
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  Speaker 6: close to 30.
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  Speaker 4: So let's be smart about it.
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  Speaker 2: Pause again. I don't know how else to say this.
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  Speaker 2: Unless you're really, really special at that position. He'll be
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  Speaker 2: 28 in a month and a half. It's pretty old
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  Speaker 2: for a running back. It just is. Unless you are
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  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, Jonathan Taylor level good. 27, 28 years old,
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  Speaker 2: especially with the injuries that he suffered. It's pretty old
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  Speaker 2: for that position specifically. Everything else I would kind of agree.
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  Speaker 2: Until you hit, it's this and corners. Those are the
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  Speaker 2: two positions. that just age super quickly in this league.
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  Speaker 2: Corners because you have to be as fast as possible
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  Speaker 2: and as agile as possible to keep up with different
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  Speaker 2: route combinations that you're, if you're in one-on-one coverage, all
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  Speaker 2: it takes is one step and it's a 50-yard play.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. And that's why you see like, you ever
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  Speaker 2: notice how the best cornerback in the league crown usually
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  Speaker 2: lasts for like two years for a guy, unless you
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  Speaker 2: get generational people like Sertan or Darrell Revis or someone
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  Speaker 2: like that. But remember when like Josh Norman was the
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  Speaker 2: best corner in the NFL for like a year and
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  Speaker 2: a half and then poof, he was like, was unplayably
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  Speaker 2: bad or Richard Sherman when he was on top for
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. And then it was like, he was gone forever.
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  Speaker 2: That happens in the snap of a finger for corners.
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  Speaker 2: And the same thing happens for running backs. Unless you're
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  Speaker 2: incredibly special. And so he can say, I'm not old.
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  Speaker 2: I would tell JK Dobbins, you kind of look like
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  Speaker 2: it when you're playing. And again, I don't say this
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  Speaker 2: to be mean. I like JK Dobbins, but I'm just,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to say the truth here. I mean, we're,
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  Speaker 2: Seven games into the season, the longest run he's had
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  Speaker 2: all year is 17 yards, and it came in week
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  Speaker 2: one against Kansas City where he got his doors blown off.
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  Speaker 2: So go ahead. Let's finish this off.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? And that's what it was,
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  Speaker 4: I believe. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 6: You guys might make something bigger than what it is,
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  Speaker 6: but I'm just here to support my teammates. And I
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  Speaker 6: love my teammates, and I think they love me too,
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  Speaker 6: you know? So there's your answer to that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that he's here for his teammates. I
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  Speaker 2: think to deflect and say.
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  Speaker 2: He's deflecting his own personal anger, I think. That was
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  Speaker 2: the equivalent. How long was that clip in its entirety?
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  Speaker 2: I know we started.
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  Speaker 3: It was about 2 minutes, 18 seconds.
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  Speaker 2: All right, not 2 minutes, 18 seconds. That was a
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  Speaker 2: 2 minute and 18 second clip of you asking your
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  Speaker 2: wife after you made her mad, are you okay? And
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  Speaker 2: she drops, I'm fine. That's her saying, I'm fine for
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  Speaker 2: two minutes and 18 seconds. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm looking after my kids. I'm fine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine. I'm not old. I'm fine. It was two
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  Speaker 2: minutes and 18 seconds of I'm fine. And you're like, um,
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  Speaker 2: I know that you're not fine.
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  Speaker 5: I think my personal favorite part of that though, is
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  Speaker 5: when he goes, he goes, I'm 27. I'm not 30.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not even close to 30. Yeah, I remember playing
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  Speaker 5: that game, JK.
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  Speaker 3: I remember that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm 28. I'm still a spring chicken. 30 may
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  Speaker 5: as well be a century away. I remember that, JK.
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  Speaker 5: I've been there, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Nelly, my birthday's in December, okay? It's right around his birthday.
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  Speaker 2: I'm 36. I'll be 37. Guess what? I'm 40, okay?
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  Speaker 2: I'll be 37.
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  Speaker 4: I'm 40, okay?
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  Speaker 2: I am a 40-year-old way before I would be a 30-year-old.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a 50-year-old is what I feel like before I'd
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  Speaker 2: be a 30-year-old. But you're very clearly upset about something,
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  Speaker 2: and we all know what it is, because we saw it.
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  Speaker 2: And I can tell in the way that you're speaking.
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  Speaker 2: I also feel bad. I think that when he looks
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  Speaker 2: back on what his career has been, He is just
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  Speaker 2: going to have a giant what if thing. And that's
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  Speaker 2: where I feel really bad for him. It's what if
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get hurt? What if the knee didn't go?
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  Speaker 2: What if this didn't happen? What if I didn't get
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  Speaker 2: the Liz Frank last year? What if I didn't? It's
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  Speaker 2: just going to be a lot of that. And again,
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  Speaker 2: I like J.K. Dobbins a lot. I thought last year
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  Speaker 2: he was sort of a linchpin. Like if he was
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  Speaker 2: playing in the AFC championship game, even with Jared Stidham in,
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  Speaker 2: I think you had a much better shot. At making
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. But I think we all know that
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  Speaker 2: your feature back is now going to be Jonah Coleman.
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  Speaker 2: So 303-504-0925 against a Bud Light football Friday back after this.
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  Speaker 2: This song always confuses me. Why did people make a
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  Speaker 2: song about Mo Bamba again? What happened there?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Who's Sheck Wes? What was his deal with Mo Bamba?
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  Speaker 2: Because Mo Bamba, he was like a really big prospect
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  Speaker 2: at Texas, right?
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  Speaker 4: And then.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of one of those freakish guys, seven-footer, you know, huge,
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  Speaker 2: made a song about him because he was like super cool.
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  Speaker 2: He was a Texas kid. I just, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how this song got so big. Anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and also, I'll tell you what, if you're Mo Bamba,
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  Speaker 5: you owe Shaq West a few soda pops because- let's
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  Speaker 5: be real. That's the only reason I know who Mo
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  Speaker 5: Bamba is, is because this song blew up, I think,
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  Speaker 5: right after I got out of college, and it was everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: Marching bands were playing it in the stands, and everybody goes, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 5: I guess I gotta remember Mo Bamba. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: don't think his NBA career was, still is, as noteworthy
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  Speaker 5: as you would expect from how hyped he was as
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  Speaker 5: a prospect, right?
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  Speaker 2: A very underwhelming NBA career, yes, but he's still in
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  Speaker 2: the league. I mean, he's playing for Utah right now. Um,
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  Speaker 2: But yes, very unremarkable for sure. Now, I, heading into
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  Speaker 2: this game, am almost uncomfortable with a confidence that I
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  Speaker 2: feel in this weekend. And I don't want it to
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  Speaker 2: be like some sort of disrespect to Kansas City because
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  Speaker 2: that's not it. it's a combo of how I feel
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  Speaker 2: about the Broncos defense going against their offense. Now, the
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  Speaker 2: one thing that I don't know, because we, we never
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  Speaker 2: know is what, what is the Broncos offense going to do?
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  Speaker 2: And I want to believe that last week was sort
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  Speaker 2: of turning a bit of a corner. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I can't guarantee that's the case. Um, if you tell
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  Speaker 2: me that Bo Nix looks more comfortable this week, I
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  Speaker 2: feel really good about it. You know, the, the big
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  Speaker 2: factors here are who's going to be in and out
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  Speaker 2: of the lineup, whether it's Zach Allen and Jalen Waddle
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  Speaker 2: and guys like that, they're going to be the difference
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  Speaker 2: makers in this game. If you tell me that Zach
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  Speaker 2: Allen can't go that, that throws a sort of gigantic, um,
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  Speaker 2: wrench in how I feel about this game. Now, the
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  Speaker 2: good news is Jalen Waddle and Zach Allen went from
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  Speaker 2: did not practice on Wednesday to at least limited on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: There's no guarantee of anything. Hufang is still going to
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  Speaker 2: be out. Sertan's got back-to-back full practice days. I would
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  Speaker 2: assume that he's going to be a go. RJ Harvey
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  Speaker 2: showing up on the injury report yesterday with a knee injury.
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  Speaker 2: Him being limited is a little bit cause for concern.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the Chiefs are pretty much dealing with
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  Speaker 2: a full deck now. I don't know if they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have really anybody that's out of the lineup in
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  Speaker 2: this game. But let's just work under the assumption that
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  Speaker 2: Zach Allen's going to be a go. I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like the Broncos, are first of all going to tackle
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  Speaker 2: way better than they did in the first game because
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  Speaker 2: they can't do any worse. But they'll be able to
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  Speaker 2: limit a Kenneth Walker lead rushing attack. I think that
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  Speaker 2: Vance Joseph, who if you guys missed it, he has
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  Speaker 2: been showing clip after clip after clip to that Broncos
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  Speaker 2: defense from the first week, trying to get them almost
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed with their performance. At least that's what Nick Benito said.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, B.J.
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  Speaker 3: Was like the main one.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, he's still like, damn near wants to throw
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  Speaker 7: up every time he has to look back at that
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  Speaker 7: week one film.
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  Speaker 2: And it's because he knows that's.
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  Speaker 7: Not our type of football that he's used to seeing.
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  Speaker 7: He wants us to be as prepared as possible, whether
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  Speaker 7: it's tackling this week and being able to get our
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  Speaker 7: bodies on guys in practice. And I think he'll have
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  Speaker 7: us ready to play for sure.
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  Speaker 5: What was that debrief like after week.
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  Speaker 7: One with B.J.? It wasn't good, I'll tell you that much.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's like... X's and O's, he gets it.
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  Speaker 7: But when it comes to just physicality and putting your
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  Speaker 7: body on somebody, he's not letting that go. And I
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: don't think he will be until we're able to show
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: that against his team this week.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: So I think they're going to come out incredibly motivated. Now,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I would tell you that I think the entire key
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: to winning this game rests on the defense. Even if
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the Broncos' offense is turned a corner, Kansas City's defense
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: is fine. They'll be able to limit some things that
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you want to do. And the Broncos haven't shown that
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: they're good enough to overcome really anybody defensively. They sort
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of did it last week against Arizona, but even still,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that was just by NFL standards in okay performance. This
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: game is going to have to be won with your
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: defense showing up and balling out. And I think that
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: they have every capability to do it. I think that
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the math changes if Zach Allen doesn't go, but let's
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: just assume that he does for argument's sake. I think
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: VJ is going to have a game plan that will
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: stop much in the same way that Seattle did the
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: rushing attack, or at least limit that. from Kenneth Walker.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's not 14 carries for 36 yards, but it's
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: like under 100. And I think as long as you
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: do that, and as weird as this is to say
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: out loud, you force Kansas City to throw the football,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: even though they have Patrick Mahomes, I don't think they
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: have the requisite weapons outside of him to make enough
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: plays to win this game. Especially going against a secondary
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that's one of the best, if not the best in
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Sertan being back changes that math a lot.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Moss is having a great year. I know that people
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: still have like PTSD about Travis Kelsey. I don't think
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: that Travis Kelsey is athletic enough to really hurt you.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: But he had a 50-yard catch in the first game. Yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: so what? You couldn't tackle. Like, have you guys watched
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey run this year? It hurts me to watch him.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: It looks like his entire body hurts with every step
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: that he takes. Every step you take. I need stem
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and ice. That's him.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I think it was you who said he reminds you
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: of Jason Witten when he came back from Cowboys for
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: one year.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: You were like, oh, God, man.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: You know that bit that Shane Gillis has about seeing
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a 14-year-old dog walking into the room? Your buddy's a
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: 14-year-old dog. You're like, oh, there he is. Yeah. Hey, buddy.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: How are you? That's how I felt watching Jason Witten.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That's how I feel watching Travis Kelsey. I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: there's that really good tight end.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Ow. That looks like everything hurts you. You've seen it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: You've seen people just at the grocery store that walk,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and you can tell they're walking in pain, and you
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: have this, like, pity. that you feel like, gosh, that
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: looks terrible. That's how I feel watching Travis Kelsey. Don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: give me some sort of like, give me a highlight
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: from Travis Kelsey this year where he's just running. And
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I want you all to look at Travis Kelsey and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: be like, tell me that does not look like an
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: old man who needs years of physical therapy to fix himself.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: He just can't move like he used to. And he
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: was in much the same way. You know, Gronk got
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: this way towards the end of his career in Tampa, too,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: under Tom Brady. Like, those guys take a lot of hits.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And they're big bodies. But there was an explosiveness to
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs offense that was centered around Travis Kelsey. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: if you guys remember, when they had that thing really
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: humming with him and Tyreek Hill and then Tyreek Leaves,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And everybody's like, well, how are you going to deal
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: with not having the explosive Tyreek Hill in this offense anymore?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: The answer was always and will always be, well, we
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: have one of the best tight ends in the history
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: of the league. That's how. Because that is the thing
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: that makes that go. Tom Brady went through Julian Edelman's
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and Danny Amendola's and who was the rugby dude? Chris Hogan's.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: It didn't matter who was playing wide receiver. Wes Welker,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Deion Branch, Troy Brown, didn't matter who was playing wide receiver.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Because the tight end was the only thing that mattered.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: As long as Gronk was there, and before all the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: craziness happened with Aaron Hernandez, when you had both of them,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: that was the Patriots' offense. Running backs interchangeable. Wide receivers interchangeable.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: You get Randy Moss for a couple of years. Yeah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that thing takes off because finally you got a wide
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: out that's legit. But still, it centers around, man, this
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: tight end's impossible to stop. And as Travis Kelsey has aged,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs offense has aged. And I think you've seen
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: it on full display. The Chiefs are 5-1. I want
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: you to, if you've been watching some Chiefs games this year,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: look at the demeanor of Patrick Mahomes on the sideline.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: He's been upset a lot. A lot. And I think
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it's because he knows that they can't get this passing
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: game going the way they want to. I feel like
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I'm better than Patrick Mahomes. You are not, Daryl Doucette.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: You certainly are not. If you remove, how about this, man?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: If they did not acquire Kenneth Walker this offseason and
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: they ran it back with the guys that they had
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: last year that were, who was it? Was Kareem Hunt
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: their leading rusher last year? Let me see real quick.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: So last year, their leading rusher was Kareem Hunt. After
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that is Isaiah Pacheco. They had a guy called Brashard
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Smith that had 44 carries. If they had that rushing
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: attack last season, I think the Chiefs are legitimately a
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: sub 500 team. Like they are being carried right now
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: by a star running back. And if teams with good
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: secondaries like the Broncos have can figure out a way
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: to entirely limit him, basically sell out to stop the run,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And say, so if you guys throw the ball, who
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: are you throwing it to? Is it Xavier Worthy, who
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: has done nothing since he's gotten in this league? Is
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: it Cyrus Allen? Jalen? Literally, I'm going to say some names.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: You tell me which names I've made up. Cyrus Allen.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You heard him?
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I went to see you with a Cyrus Allen. He's
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: a producer at Nine News right now. Is that the
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: guy you're talking about?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Might be. They're looking for wideouts. How about Jalen Royals?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: You heard of him?
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Is that a name Scott Hastings would talk about? That
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Jalen's Royals over there.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: How about Austin Johnson? You heard of him, Nelly?
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he was like a friend on Full
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: House or something. He sounds like a generic sitcom actor.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that's funny because I made his name up because
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who we're talking about.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: If they get Rasheed Rice back this week, maybe that
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: makes it a little bit different. The point is they
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: have nothing in the pass game to throw to. And that's,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I guarantee, why Patrick Mahomes is frustrated this year. Completions
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: to wide receivers this season, they have one wide receiver
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: who's gotten more than 13 catches. And that's Xavier Worthy
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: with 24. You can sell out to stop the run
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: like the Seahawks did and dare them to throw the
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: ball to Andrew Armstrong, which is not a name that
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I made up. Dare them. You have one of the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: best defenses in the NFL. You have the best secondary
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. Even without Hufanga. Pat Sertan is back.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: One side of the field is completely shut down. Like,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I cannot wait for the matchup between the Chiefs offense
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and the Broncos defense. Because I think that Vance Joseph
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: is going to do a number on this team. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm so confident. As much as I have
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: no idea what the Broncos offense is going to do
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: this week, I have full faith that the Broncos defense
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: is going to put on a show. Now, fingers crossed,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Zach Allen's a part of that because if he's not,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: it does change the math. But either way, I think
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: that Vance Joseph is going to have something dialed up
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: for this Chiefs offense that is just going to throw
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: him for a loop. So a texture says, so when
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Kansas City comes in and beats Denver 24-10 because our
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: offense sucks, come Monday, you suck.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Look, I can only tell you what I think, okay?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: These are my opinions. I'm not saying I'm right on everything.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: It's what I think. And I just have full faith
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that this Broncos defense is like not... The first game
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: of the year was.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: It was so bizarre that there's literally nothing I take
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: away from that game.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Nothing.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Because none of it was real. I'm convinced. It was
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: a glitch in the matrix. It was somebody, if we're
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: in somebody's video game, well, somebody had the controller and
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: they were like reaching over and messing with the guy's
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: hand or something like that, that entire game when they're
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: playing on defense. That was it. But I take nothing,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: nothing from that opening game because I just, there's nothing to,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: there's nothing from that film that applies to this. Because
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: that week was a mirage. Or I'm sorry, as DMACC
• 29:52
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• 30:27
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• 30:41
  Speaker 2: All right, Nuggets and Suns tonight. I think for the Nuggets,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: we don't know what the statuses are for some of
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: these players in this game. I don't know what the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: health status is for Cam Johnson or Spencer Jones or
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Alpha Diallo or whoever. Strother's going to be out for
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: a while. Those guys all seem to be sort of
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: game to game right now. But the Nuggets taking on
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the Suns later tonight at 8 o'clock. I think the
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: strategy for them should be the same thing that it
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: was in the last game. And I kind of like,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you know, Vic pointed this out yesterday, and I think
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: he's right about this. Defensively, they've had like two good
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: defensive games and two bad defensive games. What they did
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: in the last matchup against the Pelicans was You kind
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: of shadowed Joker whenever he was on the floor with
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: somebody else that was big and athletic, whether that is
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Trevin Brazil or that's Marvin Bagley or whoever. And I
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: think what that did, it gave you a lot more
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: of a presence at the rim. A big problem for
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the Nuggets is that people just, you don't have perimeter
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: defenders that can stay in front of guys and not
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: allow drives to the rack. And when that happens... Joker
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: is put in a bad position of he's not a
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: rim protector, so he either needs to go up and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: attempt to get in the way of the guy and
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: risk getting in foul trouble, as he did in that
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: last game. He had three fouls like midway through the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: second quarter.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Or he.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Just kind of gives him a blow by and it's like, yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I'll get my hands up, but I'm not really going
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: to get in the way and concede an easy layup.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: You just put him in a very tough position. Now,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: if you have somebody like a Trevin Brazil or Marvin Bagley,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: that's also down low that can help in situations like that,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: it changes it. And I think it makes it a
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: lot more viable for defense at the rim. And it's
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: something they should continue to do. Like part of this is,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I think that you keep Trevin Brazil in the starting lineup.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And if he continues to play the way that he's
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: been playing, when Cam Johnson does come back, Cam Johnson
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: maybe becomes a shooter that comes off the bench. Maybe
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: that's now his role. Because I like the way that
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: it's set up having help for Joker, especially around the rim.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: And look, the Phoenix Suns are a mess. The season's
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: just started and they're having inner turmoil stuff already. You know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: that's a team that just a couple of years ago
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: had Devin Booker and Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal and
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: all these different guys, and that's been totally flipped. Booker's
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the only one still there. Now, they got Jalen Green
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: in the trade, but Jalen Green, good player. Three-point shooting
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: hasn't been great for him really throughout his NBA career.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: They got Miles Bridges. They got Dylan Brooks. Like, they
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: got guys who are okay. But there's something that's off
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: chemistry-wise with that team. You should be able to take
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: full advantage of them. They're 1-2 to start the year.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: They lost to the Blazers and the Thunder, but they
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: did beat the Warriors. The game tonight, as the Nuggets
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: go on the road, they're 4.5-point favorites. This should be
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: fully expected, I think, for the Nuggets to get a win,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: but I want to see them continue what they did
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: in their last game against the Pelicans and have some
• 34:33
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  Speaker 2: be a game in which I think they take care
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: of business, and it shouldn't look like it's going to
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: take too much exertion in doing so. Texture says we
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: need shooters in the starting five. Brazil is a bench guy.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: We're giving him too much praise at this point. Here's
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the thing. I'm not saying that Trevin Brazil is the
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: second coming of whoever, okay? Like, there's a lot that
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: that guy still has to prove. There's one thing that's
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: for certain through four games with Trevin Brazil. Unquestionable. Trevin
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Brazil is a pogo stick. He's 6'10, with a 41-inch vertical,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and that, on the defensive side of the basketball, is
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: an amazing thing to have. In some ways, it's a
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: better version of what Peyton Watson was on the defensive side.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: You know how P. Watt, when he was here last year,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: last couple years, would do that thing where somebody's open
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: for a corner three, and he would take one step, jump,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and extend his hand out and barely get a fingertip
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: on it. And you're like, how in the world did
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: he get a hand on that basketball? Now, imagine a
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: couple inches higher with even more of a vertical. Because
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that's what Trevon Brazil is. And I think this team,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: this is the realization I've come to. They led the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: league in offense last year. You got bounced in the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: first round. Didn't matter. This team plays its best when
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: they're focused on the defensive side. And whatever you thought
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: about Mike Malone, that is what he preached. They could
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: win a game 135 to 131 and Mike Malone would
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: be pissed because he's like, we aren't giving up 130 points.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: The focus of this team, they won a championship with
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: not being able to shoot the basketball. They won multiple
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: playoff games during their championship run a few years ago
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: where they made like three threes because they dominated on
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the defensive side and they're a really good mid-range to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: at-the-rim team. And the core of that has not changed.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: It's still what they are. The ancillary pieces around them,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: talking strictly offense here, Okay, Michael Porter Jr. gets subbed
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: out for Cam Johnson. Largely the same type of player.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stand on the outside at the perimeter,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: wait for a dribble drive, kick out, I hit the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: open three. Like, that's how they were built then. It
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: looks like it's how they're built now. I would sacrifice
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: that part of it in the starting five if you
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: told me that you get a defensive boost and help
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: in the interior of your defense and help for Joker
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: defensively With a Trevin Brazil roaming around or a Marvin Bagley,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: guys with size and athleticism. The focus for this team
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: should be defensively. We're going to focus on that first
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: because a lot of times with this Nuggets team, defense
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: leads to offense. It's why Christian Brown got paid a
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: big contract. When you play good defense and you got
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: out in transition, he was a monster in transition. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I just, over the last few years, people have been
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: talking about they need to find three-point shooting. This is
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: a three-point shooting league. I'm like, why? They won plenty
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: of basketball games playing their style of basketball that suited
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: them best. Why not just double down on that? Yes,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: you need to hit threes, but it'll come. And I've
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: seen them win plenty of games where they can't shoot
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: because they played good defense and they dominated the interior
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: on the offensive side. So, that game's at 8 o'clock tonight. Pre-game, 7.30,
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• 39:33
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• 39:39
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• 39:40
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• 39:43
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• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I I'm, Almost scared. I'm almost terrified to do this.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: But I actually think CU, who's a pick-em right now
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: with Kansas State, Kansas State doesn't have a quarterback. Avery
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Johnson is not going to play. Kansas State has had
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: a hard enough time scoring this year, even with a
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: healthy Avery Johnson. I think with Deion's back against the wall,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: with his program's back against the wall, Do I dare?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Even though it's a pick-em. I'm going to call this
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the underdog of the week. I think I'm going to
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: take CU to win. I don't think that Kansas State
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: has a guy who can move the ball forward at quarterback.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I really don't. And at least CU has some guys.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: You know, Williams at wide receiver. He's got 640 yards
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: this year. I think he can get it done. And
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: then I'll go to the NFL for a favorite this weekend.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: It's tough to find games like this that I really like,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: but I think, do I dare? Two teams that have
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: completely underwhelmed this season between the Chargers and the Rams.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: The Rams are six and a half point favorites. I'm
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: going to assume that the Rams are going to be
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: out for blood against their team that shares the town
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: with them. I think the Rams win this game by
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. So you get the Rams and God forbid.
• 41:18
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• 41:18
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