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- 0:45Speaker 1: Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with I R Radio. Hello,
- 0:51Speaker 1: Ashley and I are together again in It Feels Nice.
- 0:55Speaker 1: What's Up? Bad? I did three episodes without you, Bet,
- 0:59Speaker 1: I talked a lot last week. I was gonna say,
- 1:02Speaker 1: that's not all my fault. You were in Tahoe just
- 1:06Speaker 1: pumping out episodes like crazy. Well, I also was gonna say,
- 1:09Speaker 1: you're gonna do three without me? At minimum because of
- 1:13Speaker 1: the honeymoon. Yeah, you can, but it's all good. We're
- 1:17Speaker 1: a team here. We've got to kind of be flexible.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I was in Switzerland, you were in Tahoe. Um, I
- 1:25Speaker 1: just think sometimes life gets in the way. How else,
- 1:28Speaker 1: what's your land? You know? I asked? It was awesome,
- 1:31Speaker 1: So Jessica, uh, and I went to play in, uh
- 1:35Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup Foundations golf tournament. And so what happens is, um,
- 1:41Speaker 1: Prince Albert of Monica every year, and my goodness, how cool.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Prison he's Grace Kelly's son. Yeah, right, is that wild? Um?
- 1:51Speaker 1: He invites twelve American celebrities and in twelve European celebrities.
- 1:56Speaker 1: So the question to playing this golf tournament against each
- 1:59Speaker 1: other for a week, and this time it was in Switzerland.
- 2:01Speaker 1: So here's the funny part about the whole thing, because
- 2:04Speaker 1: every time I say this, the follow up question is, then,
- 2:07Speaker 1: how in the world did you get celebrities? Twelve American
- 2:12Speaker 1: celebrities invited by Prince Albert and you're one of them.
- 2:14Speaker 1: It's pretty dark cool or it's really embarrassing. And let
- 2:19Speaker 1: me tell you why. Um, so obviously, Uh, anybody can
- 2:25Speaker 1: tell me. Oh wow, I'm really surprised that if twelve
- 2:28Speaker 1: celebrities you were invited, I would say, I agree with you.
- 2:32Speaker 1: I'm pretty shocked myself, and I don't view myself in
- 2:35Speaker 1: any way as relevant. Um, but I will take any affternion.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Get Here's what happened. Most of the time, it's football
- 2:42Speaker 1: players to get invited to this and this year, um soccer, soccer,
- 2:48Speaker 1: football like American football, like American football. But it's the
- 2:52Speaker 1: dates of this tournament got pushed back two weeks because
- 2:55Speaker 1: of some things happening in Switzerland, and so all of
- 2:59Speaker 1: the football players had to back out last minute. What
- 3:02Speaker 1: happens when yeah, training camp, So guess what happens when
- 3:05Speaker 1: a bunch of them back out. I get the phone
- 3:08Speaker 1: calls like your D team, Hey, it's that D team,
- 3:11Speaker 1: it's B team. And that still means that you were
- 3:13Speaker 1: one of twenty four people last Okay, that's really cool. Yeah,
- 3:18Speaker 1: it was awesome. It was so fun. Jess and I
- 3:21Speaker 1: had the coolest time. I mean we were in St. Marit, Switzerland,
- 3:25Speaker 1: which is one of the most beautiful places in the world,
- 3:27Speaker 1: at the Bedroots Resort. Anyway, it was great. Got to
- 3:31Speaker 1: meet some really cool people. Actually listen to this. I
- 3:34Speaker 1: got to meet somebody who owned a forty five thousand
- 3:38Speaker 1: acre vineyard in Chile. How cool would that be? Thousand acres?
- 3:43Speaker 1: How many miles is that? Yeah? His vineyard is the
- 3:50Speaker 1: VIC Vineyards. It was just a cool trip. A lot
- 3:52Speaker 1: of cool things happened. Um, but it's not as important
- 3:55Speaker 1: as as the stuff that's going on in your life.
- 3:58Speaker 1: You've got a wedding coming up. Well, I was say,
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- 6:02Speaker 1: I didn't get to talk about it too much because
- 6:04Speaker 1: I was away, and we've been getting a ton of
- 6:07Speaker 1: questions and emails and Twitter responses about this new Bachelor
- 6:11Speaker 1: Live deal. A lot of them are worried that this
- 6:14Speaker 1: podcast is gonna end when Bachelor Live begins. Actually, is
- 6:17Speaker 1: that true? No way, I can't even believe people thought
- 6:20Speaker 1: that was a legitimate concern. Of course it's not. You
- 6:23Speaker 1: do this remotely almost every year, every day, every week,
- 6:28Speaker 1: So you're just gonna be doing it remotely from a
- 6:29Speaker 1: tour bus wherever you are in America exactly. Yeah, we're
- 6:32Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Like, honestly, it's gonna be fun because
- 6:35Speaker 1: I think on the podcast I could see us breaking
- 6:38Speaker 1: down like some of the stories that are happening at
- 6:40Speaker 1: some of these live events. Oh yeah, that'll be really
- 6:42Speaker 1: really fun, And I will come and visit you on
- 6:44Speaker 1: the road for sure. Yeah. You know, I've also got
- 6:47Speaker 1: some questions about what Bachelor Live is. And let me
- 6:49Speaker 1: explain it for a second, because last week there was
- 6:52Speaker 1: just a lot going on and I couldn't dive in
- 6:55Speaker 1: but Bachelor Life is this. So the Bachelor Nation has
- 6:58Speaker 1: been so great to all of us. I mean, as
- 7:00Speaker 1: you know, I've had done this podcast for two years
- 7:01Speaker 1: with Bachelor Nation listeners listening, and we get asked all
- 7:05Speaker 1: the times kind of the behind the scenes stuff. You know,
- 7:07Speaker 1: there's this like fantasy world that's displayed on TV and
- 7:09Speaker 1: it's super romantic and there's it's drama filled and ultimately
- 7:13Speaker 1: at the end, we hope love exists and it comes
- 7:15Speaker 1: from it. Well that's a Bachelor lives is uh. You know,
- 7:18Speaker 1: Warner Brothers got together and they said, hey, what if
- 7:21Speaker 1: we just gave a thank you to Bachelor Nation and
- 7:23Speaker 1: made a tour that goes to a ton of different
- 7:26Speaker 1: cities across the US. We show up and we do
- 7:29Speaker 1: the Bachelor's show live in front of a live audience
- 7:34Speaker 1: where you have a live bachelor and the suitors they're dating.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation gets to come and vote on who gets
- 7:40Speaker 1: a rose and who doesn't. And you know, if you
- 7:43Speaker 1: want to come for drama, you can. If you want
- 7:45Speaker 1: to come for love that may exist from it as well,
- 7:48Speaker 1: and if you want to just come to see Ben
- 7:50Speaker 1: Higgins in real life, that's great too. Yeah, that's something special.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Let me tell you, um so, but yeah, the it's
- 7:59Speaker 1: that's what it is. I'm gonna be hosting. I'm super
- 8:01Speaker 1: jacked about it. It's gonna be really great. There's gonna
- 8:03Speaker 1: be other people from Vatchination showing up on the road
- 8:06Speaker 1: as well. But long story short, we're just hitting the road.
- 8:10Speaker 1: The Bachelor is coming to a city, New you. You've
- 8:12Speaker 1: got to check it out. I want to see you.
- 8:13Speaker 1: But this podcast is not ending in the process. We
- 8:18Speaker 1: do have other Bachelor news to discuss, so we're gonna
- 8:20Speaker 1: go down this rundown real quick before we get Luke
- 8:23Speaker 1: Pell on the line, Who's going to talk about his
- 8:25Speaker 1: feelings about Jed pursuing his music so hard on The Bachelorette.
- 8:31Speaker 1: It has been such a storyline for him, unlike we've
- 8:34Speaker 1: ever seen before. But there have been other musicians on
- 8:36Speaker 1: the show, and Luke is one of them, so we
- 8:38Speaker 1: can't get to get his opinion on Jed and if
- 8:42Speaker 1: he's ever really run into him around Nashville, because I
- 8:45Speaker 1: feel like they maybe they don't run in a similar circle.
- 8:47Speaker 1: But I do know that I don't know if you
- 8:50Speaker 1: know this, Ben, that Jed is good friends with James
- 8:54Speaker 1: Taylor of Jojo season. Oh wow, so I had no clue.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I'm no clue. Yeah, no, they are. So I wonder
- 9:04Speaker 1: what that says. Like, I wonder if we could ask
- 9:06Speaker 1: Luke a little bit about like, you know, typically who
- 9:09Speaker 1: you associate with friends is, you know, points to who
- 9:11Speaker 1: you are as a person. And we never got to
- 9:12Speaker 1: know James very well. He was never really I mean,
- 9:14Speaker 1: he was around for a while, but I can't really
- 9:16Speaker 1: remember much about him. Ums on social media, Yeah, he
- 9:23Speaker 1: has gotten himself in the triple fat And I don't think,
- 9:26Speaker 1: I mean from what I've seen or No, I don't
- 9:28Speaker 1: think James's career was necessarily benefited from the show. And
- 9:31Speaker 1: I don't think he's like has like a recording deal. Yeah,
- 9:35Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know what to anyways. Hey, um,
- 9:39Speaker 1: Rachel is having her Bachelorrette party right now. She's obviously
- 9:42Speaker 1: planning a wedding. She went down to Costa Rica to
- 9:45Speaker 1: the plane of Hollywood with Asterid, Alexis, Christina Whitney friends. Way,
- 9:49Speaker 1: they're hanging out, they're enjoying themselves. I mean, it's just
- 9:52Speaker 1: moost thing. They're having a good time. Is there anything
- 9:54Speaker 1: special going on here? Is it just a big celebration.
- 9:57Speaker 1: I think this is a big celebration. That's pretty When
- 10:00Speaker 1: is the wedding? Do I know this? Their weddings in
- 10:02Speaker 1: August as well? Is it on the same weekend as
- 10:04Speaker 1: you know? It is not? Is it? Is it anything like?
- 10:08Speaker 1: Are they doing their own wedding? Is the Bachelor? Like?
- 10:11Speaker 1: Is it on TV? Is there anything like that going on? Nope,
- 10:14Speaker 1: it's exact same as ours. No TV involved. And I
- 10:17Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, but a couple of months
- 10:19Speaker 1: ago I was I talked about how Rachel actually came
- 10:22Speaker 1: to me to ask our date so that our weddings
- 10:24Speaker 1: wouldn't fall in the same weekend, which is very sweet
- 10:26Speaker 1: of her. That is getting married. I think it's in
- 10:31Speaker 1: the Caribbean. That sounds fun. I think that's what I think.
- 10:35Speaker 1: One day, you know you're doing a great thing. You
- 10:38Speaker 1: poured is awesome. I think I'm into the destination wedding
- 10:41Speaker 1: idea because the people that can't come won't come, But
- 10:44Speaker 1: then you're kind of away from fit friends and family
- 10:47Speaker 1: in your own home, so everybody's kind kind of feel
- 10:49Speaker 1: like they're on vacation. Do you like the idea that? Yeah,
- 10:51Speaker 1: I really like that. I think ours is like a
- 10:54Speaker 1: perfect medium, like you don't feel like you're going too
- 10:56Speaker 1: far because it's you know, in the country, but it's
- 10:59Speaker 1: still definitely a destination for a lot of people who
- 11:01Speaker 1: haven't been there before, and it's a very lovely summer spot.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Everybody I talked to you, um and I know you.
- 11:07Speaker 1: We've talked about your wedding a ton, which we should.
- 11:09Speaker 1: It's your big special day, Ashley. But anyway, everybody talked
- 11:12Speaker 1: to say that your wedding is going to be magnificent,
- 11:15Speaker 1: like just based on location and the time put in.
- 11:17Speaker 1: But hey, super pumped for Rachel, big for her. I
- 11:20Speaker 1: hope they're celebrating. Well, uh, we are gonna be following
- 11:24Speaker 1: that wedding as it comes up as well. Hey, h
- 11:27Speaker 1: Demmian Barnett one of our favorite people and one of
- 11:30Speaker 1: Bacchelin nations here people came on on Twitter and called
- 11:33Speaker 1: herself what I imagine is the queer queen. Correct. Oh yes,
- 11:37Speaker 1: because we see that we've seen the Bachelor Paradise premiere.
- 11:41Speaker 1: It seems like she has a same sex relationship or
- 11:44Speaker 1: is pursuing one. So she she loves us all can
- 11:48Speaker 1: She confirmed that basically on Twitter? Yeah, so I mean
- 11:52Speaker 1: kind of all right, like gay, but I'm assuming based
- 11:56Speaker 1: on the the Paradise review and promo she is she's
- 12:03Speaker 1: in a same sex relationship in Paradise. So the big
- 12:05Speaker 1: question that we don't know is, you know, was it
- 12:08Speaker 1: happening before? Doesn't last and it's you know, ultimately, like
- 12:11Speaker 1: everybody on the show, is she happy? So she came
- 12:13Speaker 1: on Twitter. This promo, by the way, has so many
- 12:16Speaker 1: different storylines. I'm so pumped to watch this season. Are
- 12:21Speaker 1: you worried about your friend Blake. I'm really worried about him.
- 12:28Speaker 1: I mean, I'm worried about him because Blake's a good dude,
- 12:31Speaker 1: and he's a good dude that probably has made some
- 12:34Speaker 1: really bad decisions. Uh, and ultimately we all have, right
- 12:37Speaker 1: and so the hope is that we learned from those
- 12:40Speaker 1: decisions as life goes. The problem though, is kind of,
- 12:45Speaker 1: you know, like we talked about with Luke p. Luke
- 12:47Speaker 1: P when he's made bad decision in the show, he's
- 12:49Speaker 1: just kind of doubled down and not admitted fault and
- 12:52Speaker 1: just said like, yeah, I'm above it all. I think,
- 12:55Speaker 1: knowing Blake, this is really going to wreck him, and
- 12:58Speaker 1: I bet he comes out of this the better and
- 13:00Speaker 1: because he's realized the mistakes he's made, and I think
- 13:02Speaker 1: he'll try to become a better man for it. So
- 13:04Speaker 1: that's my hope. But I am worried. It looks it
- 13:06Speaker 1: looks bad. Yeah, it does look does look bad. And
- 13:08Speaker 1: when we were down in Paradise for Crystal and Chris's wedding,
- 13:13Speaker 1: it didn't sound that great either. After storyline to watch, obviously,
- 13:19Speaker 1: we see a fight, like a legitimate fight. I'm I'm
- 13:22Speaker 1: wondering who that is. I don't think we ever got
- 13:24Speaker 1: any clue of who it was. Our buddies, our buddy
- 13:27Speaker 1: Dean's down there. This is a lot happened on Paradise.
- 13:30Speaker 1: It's gonna be a wild season. I expect huge ratings
- 13:33Speaker 1: for Paradise this year. Speaking of ratings, U Jojo and
- 13:36Speaker 1: Jordan's Cash pad Uh premiered this week. Did you watch
- 13:41Speaker 1: I dv R dint. I haven't watched it yet, but
- 13:43Speaker 1: it's all am I to do. Listen. I know the
- 13:44Speaker 1: second episode I think comes out tomorrow, so maybe I'll
- 13:47Speaker 1: just watch two in a row. It looks awesome. I
- 13:50Speaker 1: heard great things about it. My mom was like, oh
- 13:52Speaker 1: my god, Jojo and Jordan's are so amazing the next
- 13:54Speaker 1: Chip and Joanna. So I know the show is good.
- 13:59Speaker 1: So do we have any insight in have a ratings? Like?
- 14:01Speaker 1: Did it was a massive success? Was it? How to
- 14:04Speaker 1: it do? I don't know. I don't either. Um I
- 14:09Speaker 1: tried to find out before this podcast and I couldn't
- 14:11Speaker 1: find anything. Did you watch it? I did not. I
- 14:15Speaker 1: was totally away in Switzerland. So turning them back in
- 14:18Speaker 1: the state, I mean, they're gonna be great. I have
- 14:20Speaker 1: zero doubt that Joe, Joe and Jordan together doing this show,
- 14:23Speaker 1: they're going to be good. But even the best the
- 14:25Speaker 1: shows sometimes don't get viewers for whatever reason. And so
- 14:29Speaker 1: the real mark is like, hey, can are they able
- 14:31Speaker 1: to convert how good they are to viewership? But let's
- 14:34Speaker 1: be let's let's tell people what the show is about.
- 14:37Speaker 1: So it's not just like a home flipping show. What
- 14:40Speaker 1: it is is they go in they renovate houses like
- 14:44Speaker 1: guest houses and stuff like that, or not even guest houses.
- 14:47Speaker 1: They renovate places so they can become something like an airbnb.
- 14:52Speaker 1: So now people can make money off their spaces, hence
- 14:56Speaker 1: cash pad m. It is not as jokes it would.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Jordan's have a stake in the Airbnb as well, or
- 15:04Speaker 1: they just kind of flip it or clean it up
- 15:06Speaker 1: and leave, or they like investing into the Airbnb. Also, No,
- 15:09Speaker 1: I don't think so Okay, hey what I mean. I
- 15:12Speaker 1: think it's a good idea. Yeah, they're a fun couple
- 15:16Speaker 1: to watch. Good on them. Either way, we hope the
- 15:20Speaker 1: best success, uh, for everything they're doing. Hey, this is
- 15:24Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's birthday week. We love our good old host.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Everybody's celebrating him. I mean everybody from vast nation is
- 15:31Speaker 1: posting a picture with Chris Harrison. I was going to
- 15:33Speaker 1: and chose not to just because I felt like I
- 15:34Speaker 1: was following a crowd. Sometimes I don't like to follow
- 15:37Speaker 1: the crowd. Last piece of news I have is that
- 15:42Speaker 1: Jade still has the baby in her belly, which means
- 15:46Speaker 1: that we have very few days left for her to
- 15:49Speaker 1: be able to make the wedding. Uh. We brought her
- 15:52Speaker 1: a salad that apparently has put many people into labor.
- 15:57Speaker 1: The place that I got this salad from is in
- 15:59Speaker 1: studios to I forget how to say. The name is
- 16:02Speaker 1: like see Chow Pizza or something. Hilary Duff was spotted
- 16:08Speaker 1: going there to get a salad while she was pregnant.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Even Carson Daily had his wife eat the salad for
- 16:13Speaker 1: the first kid. It worked, and then she ordered a
- 16:16Speaker 1: bottle of the salad dressing to New York and chugged
- 16:19Speaker 1: the entire thing. And I do believe she went to
- 16:21Speaker 1: labor again that time. So it's a it's a it's
- 16:25Speaker 1: a famous salad to get people's delivery going. It doesn't
- 16:28Speaker 1: seem to have worked for jade Um produced. One of
- 16:33Speaker 1: our producer friends actually told me that his wife did it.
- 16:38Speaker 1: And it's the castor oil and it that gets things moving.
- 16:42Speaker 1: But sometimes it doesn't get the baby moving, it gets
- 16:44Speaker 1: your bowels moving. WHOA, that's always fun time. Yeah, speaking
- 16:52Speaker 1: of good time, Actually, we have so much to talk
- 16:55Speaker 1: about this podcast. Hit a Bat season is coming to
- 16:58Speaker 1: an end very soon, but it doesn't mean that the
- 17:01Speaker 1: drama and the storyline are finished. Hey, Pels gonna come
- 17:06Speaker 1: on and talk to us about what his thoughts are
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- 19:52Speaker 1: from Bachelor Winner Games, Luke Pell on the line if
- 19:56Speaker 1: you guys don't remember him and you're a new watcher
- 19:59Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation and Luke Pal served in Afghanistan during his
- 20:02Speaker 1: first five years with the U. S. Army. He grew
- 20:04Speaker 1: up in Texas. He moved to Nashville chasing his dream
- 20:08Speaker 1: of music. He has some amazing music out there on iTunes.
- 20:12Speaker 1: You should totally check it out. And um he appeared
- 20:16Speaker 1: on Joe Joe the twelfth season of the Bachelorette. Luke,
- 20:22Speaker 1: what's up, guys, thanks for having me on. Good Luke
- 20:24Speaker 1: you guys, how horrible is it to also be a
- 20:28Speaker 1: Luke Pe these days? Yeah, that's that's exciting. I've uh,
- 20:33Speaker 1: I've gotten a few misdirected tweets and d ms in Instagram,
- 20:37Speaker 1: um that were meant that were meant for somebody else,
- 20:40Speaker 1: and then twenty four hours later they're like, oh my god,
- 20:42Speaker 1: I apologize that's the wrong Luke P. It's so funny. Yeah,
- 20:47Speaker 1: I have seen what they intended to said, though, and
- 20:49Speaker 1: I feel bad for the kid, honestly. I mean there's
- 20:51Speaker 1: some rough dms out there. You know. What's interesting is
- 20:53Speaker 1: I feel that Bachelor nation alum have had more sympathy
- 20:58Speaker 1: empathy for Luke than anyone else out there. Whenever I'm
- 21:03Speaker 1: with a group of Bachelor peeps and we're like, you know,
- 21:07Speaker 1: off the mic, we're actually talking about how we feel
- 21:11Speaker 1: bad for him, not that he didn't screw up immensely,
- 21:14Speaker 1: but I guess there's just like a certain component of
- 21:17Speaker 1: the process and the scrutiny that comes with it that
- 21:20Speaker 1: we understand that a lot of people don't. Like we
- 21:22Speaker 1: were with Kendall and Joe this weekend and they were like,
- 21:25Speaker 1: I don't you know this is it's pretty crazy, and
- 21:28Speaker 1: then same with Jade and Tanner, and the same with
- 21:31Speaker 1: Tahoe crew Less last week. Sure, yeah, it's uh, it's
- 21:36Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. You know, everybody comes on the
- 21:39Speaker 1: show from different backgrounds, and everybody has a different level
- 21:42Speaker 1: of self awareness. Some people are very self aware when
- 21:44Speaker 1: they come on to the show and start filming, and others,
- 21:47Speaker 1: you know, they they don't see themselves to the same
- 21:50Speaker 1: lens as the rest of the world might in a
- 21:53Speaker 1: certain situation. And then of course, you know, the job
- 21:55Speaker 1: of the producers is to take that one direction or
- 21:58Speaker 1: the other, and uh, you know, help build some these
- 22:00Speaker 1: narrative if you will. So um that being said, I
- 22:03Speaker 1: don't condone anything that he did exactly you were up
- 22:08Speaker 1: front is like, you know, there is intention versus execution,
- 22:13Speaker 1: and he had poor execution of how I handled himself.
- 22:15Speaker 1: And I think, you know, a kid like that, he
- 22:18Speaker 1: can look back at his time during that filming and
- 22:20Speaker 1: probably although he has had a couple of chances to us,
- 22:24Speaker 1: you know, apologize to say I could have done things better,
- 22:27Speaker 1: but I think one day he'll look at it and say, hey,
- 22:29Speaker 1: I could have done something a little bit better and
- 22:31Speaker 1: had a little bit better positive attitude about how I
- 22:33Speaker 1: went through this and been more empathetic to other people
- 22:36Speaker 1: and more respectful of other people and their their opinions, uh,
- 22:39Speaker 1: and their outlook on life, even if it is different
- 22:42Speaker 1: than mine, you know, those type of things. I think
- 22:43Speaker 1: eventually surely he'll he'll he'll see it through those those lenses.
- 22:47Speaker 1: So well, we hope. So right now we're moving on
- 22:51Speaker 1: to like another formed villain kind of Jed. So Jed
- 22:58Speaker 1: was a front runner in the very beginning, ever, but
- 23:00Speaker 1: I loved him, and then this information about him having
- 23:02Speaker 1: a girlfriend, leaving the show with a girlfriend and saying
- 23:05Speaker 1: I Love you and going on vacation her beting. The
- 23:07Speaker 1: family like and all of us now can't stand Jet
- 23:10Speaker 1: and he's a musician, and it's gotten the whole show.
- 23:14Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you saw this past episode this
- 23:17Speaker 1: this episode, Luke, but this episode, the family concentrates a
- 23:22Speaker 1: lot on Jed's music career and how he can provide
- 23:27Speaker 1: for Hannah financially in the future. What do you think
- 23:32Speaker 1: about Jed right now? Yeah, well, I mean, first of all,
- 23:35Speaker 1: I'll preface with this. It's the interesting thing about this is,
- 23:40Speaker 1: you know we've kind of before the show has exposed
- 23:43Speaker 1: Jet uh you know, activity before he filmed, and all
- 23:48Speaker 1: this about the girlfriend back home that's not been out
- 23:50Speaker 1: yet in public. That's all been um in tabloids on
- 23:54Speaker 1: you know bloggers, reality see those types of people. And
- 23:58Speaker 1: it's been this whole Bachelor Nation underground type of borrow
- 24:01Speaker 1: narrative that hasn't even happened on the show yet. So um,
- 24:05Speaker 1: that's just gonna get start to unfold here at the
- 24:08Speaker 1: very end of of the episodes. But um, you know,
- 24:13Speaker 1: I think that these days, people they call it quote
- 24:16Speaker 1: unquote receipts and you know, a kid like him, I don't.
- 24:20Speaker 1: I don't know Jed. I've met Jed, I don't know
- 24:22Speaker 1: him personally other than just meeting briefly, and it's tough
- 24:26Speaker 1: to see, you know. I always want to give people
- 24:29Speaker 1: to benefit of doubts, say maybe they you know, they're
- 24:31Speaker 1: not inherently a bad person. Maybe they had good intentions,
- 24:35Speaker 1: because most of us do have good intentions. I mean,
- 24:38Speaker 1: who wants to go on to a TV show in
- 24:41Speaker 1: front of the nation and be a bad person and
- 24:45Speaker 1: be hated Like nobody goes on there knowingly says, well
- 24:49Speaker 1: just hate me, world, I'm completely good with it. Bringing on.
- 24:52Speaker 1: They go on there with intentions of thinking that what
- 24:54Speaker 1: they've done in the past, or who they've been up
- 24:56Speaker 1: to that point is okay, is morally and ethically okay
- 25:00Speaker 1: a or that if they have made mistakes, which a
- 25:03Speaker 1: lot of us have in different levels. You may all
- 25:05Speaker 1: of it's some kind of mistake you hope that you know,
- 25:07Speaker 1: maybe that's in your past. But as you know, in
- 25:10Speaker 1: vastelardation in the nation of social media and Twitter and
- 25:13Speaker 1: people pulling up old screenshots, if you have made mistakes
- 25:16Speaker 1: and you come into this type of environment, they will
- 25:19Speaker 1: come back to haunt you. You know, we've seen that
- 25:21Speaker 1: too many times. It happens every season now, and it's
- 25:23Speaker 1: it's like the big reveal of reality Steve and those
- 25:26Speaker 1: types of people is to say, oh, let's dig up
- 25:28Speaker 1: the dirt on these people's past. So you know, um,
- 25:31Speaker 1: you know, maybe there are people out there that have
- 25:33Speaker 1: a very clean past, they've never done or said anything
- 25:36Speaker 1: that they shouldn't have said, or or you know, um
- 25:40Speaker 1: come onto the show with with bad intentions and they're
- 25:43Speaker 1: trying to hide something and then they get found out.
- 25:46Speaker 1: So I just I feel bad um in a way.
- 25:49Speaker 1: But at the same time, when you see what somebody
- 25:52Speaker 1: like that actually did, you're like, man, even if you
- 25:55Speaker 1: had good intentions, what like, what were you thinking? Like?
- 25:57Speaker 1: It didn't it doesn't make sense. It's not it's not
- 26:00Speaker 1: right to the girl that you were dating before. However,
- 26:04Speaker 1: whatever the details are on that, we only see it
- 26:06Speaker 1: through certain lands, but there are receipts, as they say,
- 26:09Speaker 1: out there, so you're like, gosh, that was just it
- 26:13Speaker 1: just kind of makes you it's cringeworthy. I guess you
- 26:15Speaker 1: would say to see that kind of stuff, and so, um,
- 26:17Speaker 1: I guess now that that jet is going to come
- 26:20Speaker 1: out of contracts he'll be able to speak about it.
- 26:22Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen now, so maybe
- 26:25Speaker 1: you guys, you guys know what's gonna happen from here.
- 26:28Speaker 1: Have you heard anything? Well, we have an inside scoop
- 26:31Speaker 1: that says that no one knows what's going to happen. Yeah,
- 26:37Speaker 1: well it's gonna be interesting to say the least. Um, Yeah, Chris,
- 26:41Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's uh, definitely right on this one as far
- 26:45Speaker 1: as one up being the most dramatic ending ever. So
- 26:48Speaker 1: I feel like it's gearing up to be one of
- 26:50Speaker 1: those kind of kind of nights I have to ask. So,
- 26:53Speaker 1: I mean, we have to be aware. And I was
- 26:56Speaker 1: just thinking about this this week. He isn't the first,
- 26:59Speaker 1: nor will he be the last person to come on
- 27:01Speaker 1: this show man or or man or woman that have
- 27:05Speaker 1: a significant other when they come onto the show that
- 27:07Speaker 1: they break up right before the show starts, once they
- 27:09Speaker 1: find out they're going to be a part of the cast.
- 27:11Speaker 1: That's happened many times before. And so I was thinking,
- 27:15Speaker 1: tell me if you think I'm wrong, and listeners, please
- 27:18Speaker 1: email us at Ben and Ashley I hired media dot Com. Um,
- 27:24Speaker 1: I was thinking, what did Jed do? So wrong here,
- 27:26Speaker 1: like why was his the storyline that really upset us?
- 27:30Speaker 1: And I think there's two things he did wrong. One,
- 27:33Speaker 1: you know, we found out too well before that we
- 27:35Speaker 1: found out that Peter had a girlfriend going onto the
- 27:37Speaker 1: show as well, or they broke up five months before.
- 27:40Speaker 1: The thing that Jed did wrong was he sit text
- 27:43Speaker 1: as he was getting the plane saying, all, this is
- 27:45Speaker 1: gonna work out in the end, right, I'm gonna come
- 27:47Speaker 1: back to you. This is just to heighten my career.
- 27:50Speaker 1: He's not the first and he won't be the last
- 27:52Speaker 1: person to come on the show to heighten their career.
- 27:54Speaker 1: That happens too. We've all seen it, we know it,
- 27:57Speaker 1: and some of us have done in ourselves, Like I
- 27:59Speaker 1: think I have eight friends who came on the show
- 28:01Speaker 1: going it's gonna be really good for my life and
- 28:03Speaker 1: my lifestyle, and then all of a sudden they find
- 28:05Speaker 1: themselves falling in love and they go, oh crap, things
- 28:08Speaker 1: have changed. Um. The second, and to this, this is
- 28:11Speaker 1: what I think Jed did wrong, is while he was
- 28:14Speaker 1: falling in love with Hannah. If he really did fall
- 28:16Speaker 1: in love with Hannah, which I would assume he did,
- 28:19Speaker 1: he should have brought his ex onto the show or
- 28:22Speaker 1: called her or something and said, hey, I know I
- 28:25Speaker 1: went into this with the intention of coming back to you.
- 28:28Speaker 1: I know I went into this and I've already admitted
- 28:30Speaker 1: on the show to get famous, Like I know that
- 28:33Speaker 1: was my intention. But please know I'm now in love
- 28:37Speaker 1: with this Hannah, and I'm here for a whole different
- 28:40Speaker 1: reason than I ever expected. I think if he would
- 28:42Speaker 1: have done that, or if he still does that on
- 28:45Speaker 1: this last episode that we haven't seen yet, I don't
- 28:48Speaker 1: think we do, because, like Astley said, we have some
- 28:50Speaker 1: inside information that nobody, producers, nobody knows how this is
- 28:54Speaker 1: gonna end, which is gonna make the last episode so wild. Um,
- 28:58Speaker 1: I think we forgive him, and I think we say
- 28:59Speaker 1: it all makes sense. Let me clarify, we don't know
- 29:03Speaker 1: what's going to happen during the live show. The producers
- 29:05Speaker 1: don't happen. The producers have no idea what is going
- 29:08Speaker 1: to unfold the live show. That's like because of course
- 29:12Speaker 1: we know how, like the producers know how the last
- 29:15Speaker 1: recorded episode unfaults, but it's the live show where it's
- 29:19Speaker 1: like anything can happen. And to talk about what you
- 29:23Speaker 1: have mentioned, Ben, I think it was the combination of
- 29:26Speaker 1: having a girlfriend and then obviously being there for his career. Right, Yeah,
- 29:32Speaker 1: I think I definitely I agree. I mean, you hit
- 29:34Speaker 1: the nail on the head. That's the difference in in
- 29:37Speaker 1: the Twitter world, you know, Jury is out there saying
- 29:40Speaker 1: that that. You know, Peter's girlfriend came out and everybody's like, yeah,
- 29:44Speaker 1: well that's kind of a moot point. He broke up
- 29:46Speaker 1: with you at Christmas, and you admitted that yourself by
- 29:50Speaker 1: sex messages, and he said, hey, I don't want to
- 29:51Speaker 1: be in this relationship with you anymore. And he completely
- 29:54Speaker 1: has that right, and that's completely forthcoming and truthful and
- 29:59Speaker 1: of you months before they even start filming the next show.
- 30:02Speaker 1: So you know, herst was kind of an ill advised uh,
- 30:05Speaker 1: you know, alarm that she sounded. But then Jazz, on
- 30:08Speaker 1: the other hand, Yes, the intention was, Hey, i'm gonna
- 30:11Speaker 1: go on this show. I'm gonna be um, I guess
- 30:15Speaker 1: kind of I'm gonna be faithful to you one, which
- 30:17Speaker 1: was a lie. Uh, and then too, I'm going to
- 30:20Speaker 1: come I'm going to bambooz all the whole world and
- 30:23Speaker 1: kind of mislead the world and say I'm on this
- 30:27Speaker 1: show to be in love and and find love with Hannah,
- 30:29Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna come back to my real
- 30:31Speaker 1: girlfriend after and he had that intention the entire way through,
- 30:35Speaker 1: and so that's what is is just tough to look past.
- 30:39Speaker 1: You know, you're like, gosh, just you know, we've what
- 30:42Speaker 1: we've seen and what we have to judge that from
- 30:45Speaker 1: as far as evidence, so far as saying that is
- 30:48Speaker 1: just not the right way to go about it in
- 30:50Speaker 1: any sense. But there's more information to still come, and
- 30:53Speaker 1: there is like, like then said a couple of long
- 30:55Speaker 1: shots of scenarios, that this could work out in a
- 30:58Speaker 1: way where you would be like, okay, A that makes
- 31:01Speaker 1: a little bit more sense. It's sad, but you know,
- 31:03Speaker 1: I mean think of it like this. It's like we
- 31:05Speaker 1: look just at what Ari did on his season, right,
- 31:08Speaker 1: I mean Ari got engaged you know, uh the Sebecca
- 31:13Speaker 1: and then um and then completely and tells her I
- 31:16Speaker 1: want to spend the rest of my life with you
- 31:18Speaker 1: on Nashville TV. And then you know, a few weeks
- 31:21Speaker 1: later says wait a minute, Uh, there was this other
- 31:24Speaker 1: girl and her name is Lauren. I want to go
- 31:26Speaker 1: back to her. And so you know, so I mean
- 31:28Speaker 1: there is um in love. You know, it's kind of
- 31:30Speaker 1: all spair in love and war. It's kind of like
- 31:32Speaker 1: he he changed his mind, had to change his heart.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Now here he is. Um, they've had you know, they
- 31:37Speaker 1: started their family, They've got a happy life together, they're married,
- 31:40Speaker 1: and that was the right decision for him. Although it
- 31:42Speaker 1: looks very brutal to see what happened to Becca having
- 31:46Speaker 1: to break up with her um in the finale of
- 31:48Speaker 1: that of that season. So it's it's there's some predicaments
- 31:52Speaker 1: out there for sure, but um, yeah, oh that's what
- 31:57Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about now. The other thing with that's
- 32:00Speaker 1: just in the relationship world. UM, I will say this. Um,
- 32:05Speaker 1: you know, you guys know that I've I've um delved
- 32:08Speaker 1: into the music world. Song that's always been kind of
- 32:11Speaker 1: although it wasn't what I was on the show. I
- 32:12Speaker 1: didn't talk about it on the show at all. Um,
- 32:15Speaker 1: I was in the military, and that I was an
- 32:17Speaker 1: Army veteran was like my career when I was on
- 32:19Speaker 1: The Bachelor at with Jojo the first time, and so
- 32:23Speaker 1: you know after that, Um, you know, I've been living
- 32:26Speaker 1: in nashvill when it came out that oh he's he's
- 32:28Speaker 1: a songwriter, he's whatever. Uh and The thing is with
- 32:34Speaker 1: with with having to go on there. I don't think
- 32:36Speaker 1: you should go on there trying to boost your career,
- 32:40Speaker 1: you know. I think people should try to go in
- 32:42Speaker 1: there with an open mind. And I think that every
- 32:45Speaker 1: every person that applies to the show, they realized now
- 32:48Speaker 1: in the in the world of social media, that yes,
- 32:51Speaker 1: it can't whatever you're doing. If you're doing music and
- 32:54Speaker 1: you've been doing that for ten years or you decided
- 32:57Speaker 1: to do it tomorrow, it can boost it possibly can
- 32:59Speaker 1: boot that career. If you're you know, selling widgets on Instagram,
- 33:05Speaker 1: it can boost your career. You know, if you're in
- 33:06Speaker 1: a career that you don't like in the cubicle, some
- 33:09Speaker 1: type of career, you're selling insurance or something, and you
- 33:12Speaker 1: go on The Bachelor, then when you come off, most
- 33:14Speaker 1: people don't go back to selling insurance or whatever they've
- 33:17Speaker 1: been before. They leave that and then they'll do another
- 33:21Speaker 1: reality show or they'll you know, continue uh to start
- 33:25Speaker 1: another business in different things. And so I don't think that, um,
- 33:30Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with making those kind of parlays and
- 33:33Speaker 1: those segues into other parts of people's lives and what
- 33:36Speaker 1: they're passionate about. But I don't think they should come
- 33:38Speaker 1: on there with that sole intention, you know. And so
- 33:43Speaker 1: do you think it was weird that the producers concentrated
- 33:46Speaker 1: so much on the musicians storyline the entire season? Yeah,
- 33:52Speaker 1: I do. I just I think a lot of people
- 33:54Speaker 1: notice that, you know, every every time Jets on the screen,
- 33:57Speaker 1: he's like playing the piano, they're playing the guitar. And
- 33:59Speaker 1: then they went to this studio and then I think
- 34:01Speaker 1: his dad apparently was like a career musician as well,
- 34:04Speaker 1: or something to that effect. And I mean it was
- 34:07Speaker 1: completely his storyline, and so I think that, you know,
- 34:12Speaker 1: it's tough to see that that career. I'm trying to
- 34:17Speaker 1: think if there's any other ones, I mean, that career
- 34:18Speaker 1: of anything, because it acting, Yes, those coincidentally crossover in
- 34:25Speaker 1: terms of, Wow, your business is not just selling products,
- 34:28Speaker 1: but it's about how many fans and people you have
- 34:31Speaker 1: following you. And so if that's what it is before
- 34:35Speaker 1: the show, and then you come on the show and
- 34:36Speaker 1: then you increase your followers and YadA, YadA, YadA. The
- 34:39Speaker 1: the the part that people believe in is if then
- 34:43Speaker 1: if that's true, then they must be getting those followers
- 34:46Speaker 1: to increase their career. What else would they be on
- 34:48Speaker 1: there for. And so that's kind of the logic that's there,
- 34:51Speaker 1: and for some it is sadly true. But for others,
- 34:55Speaker 1: I don't think it should be an automatic indictment on
- 34:58Speaker 1: their intentions, you know what I'm saying. Am I mean?
- 35:00Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, what what should we do?
- 35:03Speaker 1: I think there's some people in bashing the world will
- 35:05Speaker 1: be like, yeah, well, the casting the producer should never
- 35:08Speaker 1: cast another anybody who's doing a musician or an actor
- 35:12Speaker 1: or anybody that is any type of career that might
- 35:14Speaker 1: possibly boost their quote unquote, you know, entertainment career or
- 35:17Speaker 1: whatever it is. They should never cast another one because
- 35:21Speaker 1: that's they're They're they're obviously there for their wrong attentions.
- 35:24Speaker 1: How could they be there for anything else, you know
- 35:26Speaker 1: what I mean? And so I feel like that's tough, um.
- 35:28Speaker 1: But also I do feel like the producers know that,
- 35:31Speaker 1: and that's a storyline that you know, a guy like
- 35:35Speaker 1: Jed can come on there and I think his intentions
- 35:39Speaker 1: were probably realized during the casting process, and you can
- 35:42Speaker 1: you can you know, borderline. I'm not saying they did
- 35:45Speaker 1: or they didn't, but you could exploit that if you
- 35:47Speaker 1: wanted to and you could say, yeah, look, this guy
- 35:50Speaker 1: always always just out here just trying to like to
- 35:52Speaker 1: his own horn. He's you know, uh, he hasn't had
- 35:56Speaker 1: any legitimate music industry success. He's not signed a record label,
- 36:01Speaker 1: any of those things. Uh, he's not on the radio, YadA, YadA, YadA.
- 36:05Speaker 1: So it's gonna look kind of like he's just clinging
- 36:08Speaker 1: for some success because of this TV show. Uh. And so,
- 36:13Speaker 1: I mean it's sad to see that. And so, I
- 36:16Speaker 1: mean I think at this point, if there was somebody
- 36:19Speaker 1: who was getting castine for this show right now and
- 36:22Speaker 1: they were saying and they told me what their career was,
- 36:24Speaker 1: you know, I would say, look, if you're in the
- 36:27Speaker 1: music industry or whatever, you should probably you know, think
- 36:30Speaker 1: twice about doing this, because, um, you know what, first
- 36:35Speaker 1: of all, be true to yourself. What are your intentions
- 36:37Speaker 1: on going on the show. Are you open to a
- 36:38Speaker 1: relationship and being fully vulnerable in that way? And secondly,
- 36:42Speaker 1: even if your intentions are good, what's the world gonna
- 36:46Speaker 1: think about you, um, because of your career? And that's
- 36:50Speaker 1: just I think the truth, the kind of the truth
- 36:51Speaker 1: of the matter in the situation as it is now. So, Luke,
- 36:55Speaker 1: if so you're you're telling us honestly that you didn't
- 36:58Speaker 1: go on for any sort of music career, and I
- 37:01Speaker 1: know you fell in love with Jojo. Are you that
- 37:03Speaker 1: instance though that you were just talking about where it's like,
- 37:07Speaker 1: maybe you went on to gain a following for your
- 37:10Speaker 1: music career, but then you did end up falling in
- 37:12Speaker 1: love with Jojo and making you know at the end
- 37:15Speaker 1: of the day, it was the right reasons. Yeah, I
- 37:17Speaker 1: think you know. For me, I try to be as
- 37:21Speaker 1: honest with myself as possible and I'm not gonna say
- 37:24Speaker 1: it went on. They're unaware that, you know, it could
- 37:28Speaker 1: maybe help. But at the same time, here's the reality
- 37:31Speaker 1: of it. I canna say this three years later is
- 37:33Speaker 1: what I didn't know it was. It was much uncertainty
- 37:36Speaker 1: because that was a conversation I had with myself and
- 37:39Speaker 1: even some people that um, you know and we're mentors
- 37:43Speaker 1: in my life and stuff outside of that world before
- 37:45Speaker 1: it's like, well, if I did go on this show, uh,
- 37:49Speaker 1: who knows, Like it may hurt my music career because
- 37:54Speaker 1: because now I've got a bunch of reality TV fans
- 37:56Speaker 1: that see my image in this in this certain way,
- 37:59Speaker 1: and they'll never be able to see me again as
- 38:01Speaker 1: a legitimate like, oh, he's an all authentic guy from
- 38:05Speaker 1: Texas who just drinks beer in the quintessential country music image.
- 38:10Speaker 1: Because then it will be burned in their mind or
- 38:12Speaker 1: in you know, millions of people's mind that he's the
- 38:15Speaker 1: he's the Bachelor TV guy, you know what I mean.
- 38:17Speaker 1: And so it could be the nail in your coffin
- 38:19Speaker 1: of a music career too, And so that was a
- 38:21Speaker 1: thought that I had. I was like, I don't know
- 38:23Speaker 1: what it what it's going to be for a career wise,
- 38:27Speaker 1: for a career implication. But I went on there thinking, well,
- 38:30Speaker 1: it's kind of like why not. At the end of
- 38:32Speaker 1: the day, I was like, well, this is like the
- 38:35Speaker 1: most exciting thing that's come up in my life in
- 38:37Speaker 1: a long time. I haven't dated anybody literally, and like
- 38:40Speaker 1: it had been two or three years at that at
- 38:42Speaker 1: that point before I've been in a relations serious relationship
- 38:45Speaker 1: of any time. UM, And I was like, well, it
- 38:48Speaker 1: won't surely it won't hurt. We'll just try it. We'll
- 38:51Speaker 1: see maybe I don't know, but you know, there was
- 38:54Speaker 1: no um I thought that. And and obviously when you
- 38:58Speaker 1: come off of it, you see that that hey, when
- 39:00Speaker 1: you come off the show. I'm not I'm not getting
- 39:03Speaker 1: a Grammy or anything. You know, you're not surrounded by
- 39:06Speaker 1: multi million dollar music producers, and all of a sudden
- 39:09Speaker 1: things are just like popping for you. You know, you can. Yes,
- 39:12Speaker 1: there are a lot of people. There are a lot
- 39:13Speaker 1: of fans from the TV show that crossed over for
- 39:15Speaker 1: a little while, and like, some of them will like
- 39:18Speaker 1: your music. Other ones will hate it and say you
- 39:20Speaker 1: suck and I'm not into I hate country music. And like,
- 39:23Speaker 1: you've got this whole, this conglomerate of fans and they're
- 39:25Speaker 1: not necessarily like music fans. So to go on there
- 39:28Speaker 1: and I think that your career is going to be
- 39:34Speaker 1: just help and and and and you know, propelled forward.
- 39:37Speaker 1: Um it's it didn't and it and it wasn't It
- 39:41Speaker 1: wasn't really about that. It was just I mean it
- 39:43Speaker 1: was I was passionate about music. And maybe it helps
- 39:47Speaker 1: my career, maybe it hurts my career. I don't know.
- 39:49Speaker 1: But it's an opportunity to just kind of go do
- 39:51Speaker 1: something different, meet two new friends, see the world, maybe
- 39:55Speaker 1: fall in love. You know one and thirty chances of
- 39:58Speaker 1: falling in love and let's go try it and That's
- 40:00Speaker 1: kind of what it was to me at the end
- 40:01Speaker 1: of the day. If you if you're a musician and
- 40:04Speaker 1: you want to go on a reality show to get fans,
- 40:06Speaker 1: why wouldn't you just go on The Voice or American Idol.
- 40:08Speaker 1: You know, well, there's that, yes, But now that these
- 40:13Speaker 1: days from what I hear and Nashville and people that
- 40:16Speaker 1: have been on it, it's it's that's a very watered
- 40:19Speaker 1: down place to make your music career work now because
- 40:24Speaker 1: you've got you know, there's so many of those shows,
- 40:26Speaker 1: so many seasons have happened. It's oversaturated, I guess, and
- 40:30Speaker 1: so you know, Terry Underwood made it, maybe Miranda Lambert
- 40:34Speaker 1: made it, do another show. There's a couple here and there,
- 40:37Speaker 1: But for the most part, those people have very mediocre careers. Now,
- 40:41Speaker 1: you know, the the other ninety percent of the people
- 40:44Speaker 1: that come off those shows, their actual music careers don't
- 40:47Speaker 1: segue at all. So um, it's it's it's a tough world.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Entertainment business is about art, it's about it's very subjective.
- 40:56Speaker 1: It's about what people like at the time. It's about
- 40:58Speaker 1: how much hype and how much of a team that
- 41:00Speaker 1: you have around you. In the industry, how much money
- 41:03Speaker 1: has pumped into the name and image as a as
- 41:06Speaker 1: a whole. It's a very complex industry to to have
- 41:10Speaker 1: quote unquote you know success or radio success or hundreds
- 41:14Speaker 1: of millions of streams, or to be the aspiring edge
- 41:18Speaker 1: shearing of the world or you know what what what
- 41:20Speaker 1: is success in the music industry is very subjective, you know,
- 41:23Speaker 1: so um anyway, for me, music is a passion. It's
- 41:28Speaker 1: something that I loved, I wanted to do it, and
- 41:30Speaker 1: I'll continue being involved in it with my entire life.
- 41:32Speaker 1: But like my pedigree or like my my background is
- 41:36Speaker 1: in like was was leading soldiers in the military for
- 41:39Speaker 1: ten years, was I was in business and and you know,
- 41:42Speaker 1: being a small business owner. And that's that's what I've
- 41:45Speaker 1: gone back to now as well. And that's that's started
- 41:47Speaker 1: a couple of businesses back here in Nashville, one in Kentucky.
- 41:50Speaker 1: And those are the things that despite you know, how
- 41:54Speaker 1: many followers I have or how many TV shows I
- 41:57Speaker 1: was on, that won't matter. That's just like of life stuff.
- 42:00Speaker 1: And and you continue moving forward with your life and
- 42:03Speaker 1: the people that are around you, and and and eventually
- 42:06Speaker 1: you have to come to terms with the fact that hey,
- 42:10Speaker 1: whatever intentions or however much type came from being on
- 42:13Speaker 1: one season The Bachelor at or six seasons of the
- 42:15Speaker 1: Bachelor spin off or whatever it is, that will eventually
- 42:18Speaker 1: kind of fade, you know what I mean, you have
- 42:20Speaker 1: to figure out recenting yourself and say what's important in
- 42:23Speaker 1: my life? What's my purpose in my life as a person.
- 42:26Speaker 1: And I think that that would be my advice to
- 42:28Speaker 1: these young guys that are just doing their first their
- 42:31Speaker 1: first season and maybe they've got to you know, been
- 42:33Speaker 1: the villain, or maybe they're going to be the next Bachelor,
- 42:36Speaker 1: whatever it is. Like, You've got to just be true
- 42:38Speaker 1: to yourself at the end of the day and decide
- 42:41Speaker 1: however good or bad this turns out for you. You
- 42:43Speaker 1: have to always stay centered and know this is me.
- 42:47Speaker 1: What will my life be in ten years when all
- 42:48Speaker 1: this fades away, good or bad? You know? So So, Luke,
- 42:53Speaker 1: what is your purpose today? Yeah? You know, my purpose
- 42:57Speaker 1: today is um working on building a life for my
- 43:02Speaker 1: family that I don't have yet. Um, but that is
- 43:07Speaker 1: that's in the back of my mind. I mean, I
- 43:08Speaker 1: want to build a life for uh. You know, I'm
- 43:11Speaker 1: preparing kind of um myself to to raise a family
- 43:16Speaker 1: to build the college fund, to build a house, have
- 43:20Speaker 1: a farm with kids, can run around on um you know,
- 43:24Speaker 1: And and I'm giving back to my military charities, which
- 43:28Speaker 1: you know, for a time I kind of got away
- 43:31Speaker 1: from that. I was kind of glad to get out
- 43:33Speaker 1: of the military for a few years. And then now
- 43:35Speaker 1: I'm at a point where I was like, well, that
- 43:36Speaker 1: was like a very formidable time in my life. And
- 43:39Speaker 1: I'm at some of the best people and and really
- 43:42Speaker 1: had some of the best learning experiences and some of
- 43:44Speaker 1: the best relationships in my entire life were in the military.
- 43:47Speaker 1: And and so now you know, I work with five
- 43:49Speaker 1: or six military charities very closely every day to find
- 43:54Speaker 1: ways to give back, raising awareness for what they do,
- 43:56Speaker 1: use whatever platform that has come from this TV time
- 44:00Speaker 1: time and and and give back to those military charities
- 44:03Speaker 1: from Wounded Warrior Projects, Homes for Heroes UM to Creative Vets,
- 44:08Speaker 1: which is the music related charity we work with here
- 44:12Speaker 1: in Nashville, UM uh to the Comfort Crew down in Austin, Texas.
- 44:16Speaker 1: And there's just the list goes on and on. And
- 44:19Speaker 1: that's that's the passion of mine. And uh I just
- 44:22Speaker 1: I just want to love people and and just and
- 44:25Speaker 1: just be a good friend, to stay centered and and
- 44:27Speaker 1: be a value of value added to whoever is life
- 44:30Speaker 1: that I'm in. I want to say that I'm value
- 44:33Speaker 1: to them as a friend, as a as a boss,
- 44:36Speaker 1: as a husband, as a father, or whatever. I want
- 44:38Speaker 1: to add value to people's lives. So that's that's that's
- 44:41Speaker 1: what I'm living for now. We love you, I love you,
- 44:46Speaker 1: got Luke. We really started for you guys. Actually, the wedding,
- 44:50Speaker 1: the wedding planning coming. It's pretty stressful, but it's coming
- 44:53Speaker 1: to a wine down. Thanks for You're sore. You're so close.
- 44:58Speaker 1: It's like, what is it a month away? Jeez, that's
- 45:03Speaker 1: so exciting. Yeah, it is. It's really great. We're excited.
- 45:06Speaker 1: It's it's to get into that real excitement phase where
- 45:08Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, a matter of days and
- 45:10Speaker 1: you like the countdowns really on. It's pretty cool. I
- 45:14Speaker 1: can't imagine, Ben, are you coming to Nashville. You're gonna
- 45:17Speaker 1: come your your girlfriend lives here, right? Yeah? Man, she
- 45:22Speaker 1: lives she lives over by Vanderbilt. Um. I don't come
- 45:26Speaker 1: to Nashville as much as I'd like to, but honestly,
- 45:30Speaker 1: I need to start coming more. Yeah, it's a great city.
- 45:34Speaker 1: My favorite restaurant I've had in a while is uh
- 45:37Speaker 1: it's called City House. It's over there, Nashville. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 45:42Speaker 1: I love that. Have you been They have great pizza, Yeah, Amanda.
- 45:47Speaker 1: Amanda's told me about it, but I haven't been there.
- 45:51Speaker 1: You gotta check it out. We've had some nice days there.
- 45:53Speaker 1: But yeah, Jess lives there. Her family's in Franklin and
- 45:56Speaker 1: uh so yeah, the life's good, man, life really good. Hey,
- 46:00Speaker 1: that's liking. That's that's great to hear it. Let me
- 46:04Speaker 1: know you. Yeah, you're in town. I'm always here and uh,
- 46:08Speaker 1: I'd love to thank you guys to dinner or something
- 46:10Speaker 1: and catch up. Dude, I'd love to do you have
- 46:12Speaker 1: a girlfriend, yeah, Amanda, Yeah, for a year now. Luke,
- 46:20Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, Thanks for being an expert in
- 46:22Speaker 1: everything a boatlor. We love talking to you. Uh. We
- 46:25Speaker 1: hope life is going well. And uh, congrats in the
- 46:28Speaker 1: sex with the charities uh and the music uh and
- 46:33Speaker 1: unlike some you came on this show to not enhance
- 46:35Speaker 1: your music career, but gosh, Darnett, we really hope it
- 46:38Speaker 1: is enhanced in your life today. Luke. Thanks, Hey, thank
- 46:42Speaker 1: you guys so much I'll have a great week, Hi, Luke.
- 46:45Speaker 1: And if you guys are interested in Luke's music, he
- 46:47Speaker 1: has a new single out right now called Remember These Words.
- 46:50Speaker 1: And I know that when you listen to that, when
- 46:53Speaker 1: you're gonna probably download the rest of his stuff too.
- 46:55Speaker 1: It's really good, all right, Ben, Let's move on to
- 46:58Speaker 1: another topic like um, Blue Apron. I love Blue Apron
- 47:02Speaker 1: so much. It's been too long, Blue Apron, and I
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- 48:47Speaker 1: you know, Actuley, Let's I want to dive into the episode.
- 48:49Speaker 1: Like you said, there isn't a lot to dive into.
- 48:51Speaker 1: You know, I think we've we've covered a bunch of topics.
- 48:54Speaker 1: But you had a lot of strong opinions early on
- 48:58Speaker 1: this season about Peter Key's now obviously gone, and I
- 49:01Speaker 1: want to hear from you. Are you surprised, are you saddened?
- 49:04Speaker 1: Or was this expected? I think it was pretty darn expected.
- 49:08Speaker 1: Like I said, I think last week, I feel like,
- 49:11Speaker 1: of all the moments in each episode, the last moment
- 49:16Speaker 1: I would think of would be Peter's date or Peter's time.
- 49:19Speaker 1: I'm like, I know that they they obviously got along
- 49:22Speaker 1: really well. They had some immense physical chemistry, but it
- 49:26Speaker 1: seemed like every time I went to recap the episode,
- 49:29Speaker 1: Peter was the last thing I thought of. Yeah, you know,
- 49:33Speaker 1: it's true. I thought about that last week or I
- 49:35Speaker 1: think it was two weeks ago when I was last
- 49:37Speaker 1: podcast with you, you had mentioned that theory. I agree,
- 49:40Speaker 1: he's now gone. So we moved into the family dates,
- 49:45Speaker 1: which I remember this week for me when my parents
- 49:48Speaker 1: showed up, This was the most stressful week of the
- 49:50Speaker 1: whole season for me, So I was like, really confused.
- 49:53Speaker 1: She kept saying my parents, my parents. She didn't say
- 49:55Speaker 1: anything about her brother, and then we show up and
- 49:58Speaker 1: there's her brother, and then like another couple which her
- 50:03Speaker 1: aunt uncle who knows, but we were never introduced, but
- 50:06Speaker 1: to anyone other than her two parents, who's kind of weird.
- 50:10Speaker 1: It feels weird, right, They're just like, why would you
- 50:12Speaker 1: bring people down? Why would they come if they're not
- 50:15Speaker 1: gonna be a part of it? And I mean, I
- 50:17Speaker 1: know from my parents experience, it's a big commitment, right,
- 50:20Speaker 1: You're nervous. You're meeting these people who will potentially be
- 50:24Speaker 1: engaged to your son or daughter, and you're meeting them.
- 50:27Speaker 1: It takes all day. Like it's not like it's like
- 50:30Speaker 1: a fifteen twenty minute talk. It's four hours of conversation.
- 50:36Speaker 1: It's a long time. And so like, why would you
- 50:40Speaker 1: ask a brother or sister and uncle to come down
- 50:42Speaker 1: if they're not even gonna be introduced. I know they
- 50:45Speaker 1: took the trip from grit to Greece, super super weird
- 50:49Speaker 1: that they just didn't introduce them, because I felt like
- 50:51Speaker 1: we were sitting in a room with a couple of
- 50:53Speaker 1: strangers there. How long is the conversations with like each
- 50:58Speaker 1: each one on one conversation. I mean, so this is
- 51:01Speaker 1: how it typically works. It was a little different with me, right,
- 51:04Speaker 1: because there's only three of us, Like it's my parents,
- 51:06Speaker 1: and I I was nervous because your parents don't sign
- 51:10Speaker 1: up this whole thing, and so they're gonna get thrown
- 51:12Speaker 1: into this world. All of a sudden, they're meeting these
- 51:14Speaker 1: two women who, for me like they're like, well, he's
- 51:17Speaker 1: obviously in love. This seems to be a good thing.
- 51:20Speaker 1: I have no clue about any of them, and now
- 51:22Speaker 1: I'm going to be on national television trying to, like,
- 51:24Speaker 1: in you know, a short amount of time, figure out
- 51:27Speaker 1: what's best for my son. It's a lot, and I'm
- 51:30Speaker 1: sure everybody stressed out. Every family stresses out about this.
- 51:33Speaker 1: But the mom or dad or both probably have like
- 51:37Speaker 1: an hour conversation. So if you have four people to
- 51:40Speaker 1: talk to you, you're there four hours. And then then
- 51:43Speaker 1: the bachelor bachelorrette talks to their parents for a good hour.
- 51:46Speaker 1: I mean, again, it's an all day adventure. Do you
- 51:49Speaker 1: think that they legitimately preferred Tyler over Jed that much
- 51:54Speaker 1: or that was a lot of just what we saw
- 51:59Speaker 1: I think. Oh, I mean here's another thing, and we've
- 52:02Speaker 1: seen it season over season over season. This is one
- 52:05Speaker 1: of those consistent storylines that you know, it just happens.
- 52:10Speaker 1: I don't know why, but it feels like the family
- 52:13Speaker 1: is never in favor of the person that is kind
- 52:16Speaker 1: of her the favorite in her heart. And I think
- 52:18Speaker 1: it's like the front runner, and like, as Hannah said,
- 52:22Speaker 1: you know, Jed the nissance beginning, and Tyler is kind
- 52:24Speaker 1: of this new thing for her. Who knows if at
- 52:26Speaker 1: the end, you know, she ends up continuing this thing
- 52:29Speaker 1: with Tyler or not. But we've all known Jed for
- 52:32Speaker 1: a while now, and if we didn't have this information
- 52:35Speaker 1: about his ex girlfriend released, I bet we're all pretty
- 52:38Speaker 1: big Jed fans at this point. And and when this
- 52:42Speaker 1: was being filmed, you know, Jed was the front runner
- 52:45Speaker 1: and like and kind of, like the dad said to Hannah,
- 52:48Speaker 1: Jed was answering these questions well, like he was kind
- 52:51Speaker 1: of dancing around the answers, and his answers kind of
- 52:54Speaker 1: pointed to like what is your dream, you know, support
- 52:57Speaker 1: a family? And he's like, well, I want to support
- 52:59Speaker 1: my family one day, have multiple ways of income. It's like,
- 53:01Speaker 1: well everybody wants multiple ways of income. Like how how
- 53:05Speaker 1: are you going to get there? Jaed? Like, be a man,
- 53:07Speaker 1: how are you going to get there? How? What are
- 53:09Speaker 1: you what are you doing now to further your career?
- 53:13Speaker 1: In your foundation for the future. And his response was,
- 53:16Speaker 1: you know, he got this gig with a dog food company.
- 53:19Speaker 1: I don't know anything about jingles, Like, I don't know
- 53:21Speaker 1: how like it was portrayed as if it was they
- 53:25Speaker 1: were kind of demeaning him, like the dog food jingle.
- 53:28Speaker 1: But honestly, a dog food jingle like for arms, could
- 53:30Speaker 1: be like a really big deal blue Buffalo. I mean
- 53:33Speaker 1: like it could be like a big deal, so it's
- 53:35Speaker 1: something to be little. However, it definitely came across that way.
- 53:40Speaker 1: You know what it reminds me of. I mean, Charlie
- 53:42Speaker 1: sheen On to DApp men made a really good living
- 53:46Speaker 1: doing jingles the best. He had a house on the
- 53:49Speaker 1: Pacific Coast Highway or something exactly. So I can't hate
- 53:55Speaker 1: on a man for doing jingles. But the family was
- 53:58Speaker 1: definitely concerned because I think they saw, well a lot
- 54:01Speaker 1: of us have seen this season, that Jed doesn't necessarily
- 54:05Speaker 1: have a foundation that he's building on right now, and
- 54:08Speaker 1: he's throwing a lot of his eggs in the music basket. Right.
- 54:12Speaker 1: Can we talk about how it was seemed super obvious
- 54:15Speaker 1: that Jed was the front runner in Hannah's heart when
- 54:19Speaker 1: she got angry at her mom being like, I knew
- 54:22Speaker 1: you guys were going to do this. I knew you
- 54:23Speaker 1: were going to say this about him. Yeah. She she
- 54:26Speaker 1: definitely showed her true colors, right, like we know who
- 54:31Speaker 1: her favorite is. She was very protective of Jed, and
- 54:36Speaker 1: you know, I mean good for her in a sense.
- 54:39Speaker 1: But also, you know, when when I do with my family,
- 54:43Speaker 1: they know a lot, and you should listen to their
- 54:46Speaker 1: opinion because they can see things that you don't see
- 54:49Speaker 1: because you've been so entranced in this world for so long.
- 54:53Speaker 1: And I think it's easy to get defensive because you
- 54:55Speaker 1: can say, you know it's your parents. Oh, you just
- 54:57Speaker 1: don't know the full story. But that could be to
- 55:00Speaker 1: their benefit. And I think Hannah's parents are pretty spot
- 55:04Speaker 1: on so far on what they're seeing. Do you agree, Yeah? Yeah,
- 55:09Speaker 1: And I think that Tyler is obviously going to be
- 55:11Speaker 1: the guy who's like more warm and masculine and seems
- 55:16Speaker 1: like more of a protector. I think he's definitely going
- 55:19Speaker 1: to be like most parents favorite based on the first impression. Ben,
- 55:24Speaker 1: don't mean to get awkward here, but didn't your parents
- 55:28Speaker 1: quote prefer Jojo? Yeah? I mean that's how Yeah, And
- 55:34Speaker 1: so I talked to him afterwards, and this was the
- 55:37Speaker 1: response I got from them, right, because it's obviously going
- 55:39Speaker 1: to be shown like you support one side or together.
- 55:42Speaker 1: And my mom is very opinionated and she loves her
- 55:46Speaker 1: son very much, and so she had very strong opinions
- 55:49Speaker 1: about who I was going to propose to. Hey, call
- 55:52Speaker 1: her crazy, but I think every parents should have an
- 55:55Speaker 1: opinion on who, you know, who their kids falling love with.
- 55:58Speaker 1: And as she explained it to me, because I didn't
- 56:00Speaker 1: get to see the whole thing, she said, yeah, I
- 56:02Speaker 1: voiced opinions positive and negative about both, and obviously I
- 56:07Speaker 1: couldn't like saying who my favorite was because I didn't
- 56:10Speaker 1: know these girls. So like it came off as like
- 56:13Speaker 1: she was super you know, supportive of Jojo, and she's like,
- 56:17Speaker 1: at the time, all I knew is that Joejo and
- 56:19Speaker 1: I had a great conversation. It seemed fun, She seemed fun,
- 56:23Speaker 1: and she seemed to really care about you because I
- 56:25Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of negative to say about either
- 56:26Speaker 1: of them because I didn't know either of them. So like,
- 56:29Speaker 1: you're gonna sit there and go, you know, who's your
- 56:31Speaker 1: favorite at this point, and it's kind of like throwing
- 56:33Speaker 1: darts with a you know, a blindfold on. It's like, well,
- 56:35Speaker 1: I don't know which one, like both of them they
- 56:37Speaker 1: seem fine, like this is this is whatever. So the show,
- 56:41Speaker 1: this is the one part of the show that I
- 56:44Speaker 1: get pretty sensitive about because they did, you know, show
- 56:47Speaker 1: my mother supporting Joejoe more and after talking to her,
- 56:50Speaker 1: she's like, I didn't support either of them more. And
- 56:52Speaker 1: then you watch it backseason or season and I just
- 56:54Speaker 1: know how much it affects the family and the relationship afterwards. Yeah,
- 57:00Speaker 1: so what do you think that Hannah is going to
- 57:02Speaker 1: feel with her family after this is awesome? I think
- 57:05Speaker 1: she's gonna I mean, we'll have to wait once again.
- 57:07Speaker 1: I mean, actually, this is one of the craziest seasons
- 57:10Speaker 1: because we don't know how this is gonna end. We
- 57:12Speaker 1: know that there's this episode, we know that there's like
- 57:15Speaker 1: this ends obviously somehow. But if Hannah is like super
- 57:20Speaker 1: relieved that this information about Jed came out so that
- 57:23Speaker 1: she sees the truth, then she's probably gonna be appreciative
- 57:26Speaker 1: of her parents for carry now. If they're together and
- 57:29Speaker 1: they're trying to make this thing work, this episode is
- 57:31Speaker 1: gonna be pretty hard for them. The watch. Yeah, that's
- 57:34Speaker 1: so true. Well, let's talk a little bit about how
- 57:37Speaker 1: we have no we have no idea what's going to
- 57:41Speaker 1: happen tomorrow. So this episode was like, it wasn't bland.
- 57:46Speaker 1: It was a good episode, But the most dramatic parts
- 57:50Speaker 1: of it were Hannah's issue with Hannah's family's issue with Jed,
- 57:56Speaker 1: and then seeing her with Jed by the water and
- 58:01Speaker 1: talking about how she she just kind of straight up
- 58:04Speaker 1: told Jed she was like they like Tyler Moore. You know,
- 58:08Speaker 1: that was the most dramatic part. But I also have
- 58:11Speaker 1: to say that, based on watching this episode, I think
- 58:14Speaker 1: that there's a connection with Jed that she doesn't have
- 58:17Speaker 1: with Tyler. I think she wants to be connected with
- 58:20Speaker 1: Tyler the way she's with Jed. I think she wants
- 58:23Speaker 1: to pick Tyler, but she knows that she has something
- 58:25Speaker 1: more unspoken and unspoken connection with Jed. Can we also
- 58:30Speaker 1: comment that Jed and Hannah's hometown dates and family meeting
- 58:34Speaker 1: dates have just gone really I mean, like really bad.
- 58:39Speaker 1: They've both been pretty awful. But do you feel me
- 58:42Speaker 1: when you say when I say that I think the
- 58:45Speaker 1: connection was stronger with Jed. They like have real conversations.
- 58:49Speaker 1: It's not just fluff. I do feel like with Tyler
- 58:51Speaker 1: it's a lot of fluff. Yeah, I mean I do,
- 58:55Speaker 1: because Tyler has that like one liner communication style where
- 58:58Speaker 1: he comes in he goes, I'm in love with Hannah
- 59:01Speaker 1: Brown and you know, he you see and you like it.
- 59:06Speaker 1: It works, but like, I don't think it like cultivates
- 59:08Speaker 1: the deepest like back and forth conversation. And I think,
- 59:12Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's a little bit at ease
- 59:14Speaker 1: with Jed too. I mean she I think she's into
- 59:15Speaker 1: him both, but Jed, I don't know how this is
- 59:18Speaker 1: going to come up. Jed doesn't really intimidate her, meaning
- 59:21Speaker 1: like not in like a good way. Like I think
- 59:24Speaker 1: when she's around Tyler, she's like a little anxious and
- 59:27Speaker 1: nervous still, But I think Jed brings her to ease,
- 59:30Speaker 1: like makes her just like be yourself. And I don't
- 59:32Speaker 1: know if Tyler is like because how much she just
- 59:36Speaker 1: is like blown away by who he is as a human.
- 59:39Speaker 1: She's still a little nervous and so she's not fully relaxed. Oh,
- 59:42Speaker 1: I don't know if I can interpret it like that.
- 59:44Speaker 1: I just feel like Tyler doesn't challenge her, and she
- 59:46Speaker 1: feels more challenged by Jed. I have a perfect analogy here.
- 59:51Speaker 1: For all of you guys who have seen the movie Enchanted?
- 59:54Speaker 1: Do you remember Enchanted? Do you remember? Don't say? Are
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: you kidding me? It's a fantastic movie. Are you king
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: you've never seen Enchanted with Adams? No? Okay, well we
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: got people in here giving you the furry eyebrow. Okay,
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: um okay. In the movie Enchanted, for all you guys
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: who've seen it, um, what's his what's his name? What? James? Okay?
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: So in the movie Amy Adams is like a princess.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: I don't need to give you the synopsis. This is
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: really only for people who have seen the movie and Chanted. Um,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: Jed is Patrick Dempsey. He's like that flawed, real human character.
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: He's kind of cynical. That's Jed. She never thought she
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: would end up with anyone like that. She thought she
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: was going to end up with like this charming prince
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: who said the most wonderful pleasant things. And that was
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: James Marson's character. And I think James Marsin's character is Tyler.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I want to like him, but
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: why am I so drawn to this like grouchier version.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: This is more guy. She ends up like finding herself
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: more drawn to the rougher conversations that she has with
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: Patrick Dempsey ak Jed than she does with the fluffy
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: fairy tale convos that she has with James Marriston. I mean,
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that was a good analogy. I
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: have zero idea, But hey, Ashley, we gotta take a
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: second and take a break and talk about one of
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- 1:01:38Speaker 1: an amazing analogy on a movie I've never seen about
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: how Hannah's in the Jed over Tyler. I'm sure it
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: was great. Please email us once again if you thought
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: she was right or wrong. Actually, um, I I cut
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: you off to talk about some of our sponsors. Um,
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: but what are your final thoughts on this episode? It
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: wasn't super exciting in my opinion, and it just is
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: leading up to something that I think will blow our minds.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: I agree. So I think in conclusion, she wants to
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: like Tyler. She does like Tyler, but I don't think
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: she loves him. I don't think she sees a future
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: with him. Um. I think that even when she says
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: certain things about him in her in her interview like
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: I could see being in his arms forever. It's almost
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: a little forced, and I have Tori here in the
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: studio nodding in a grants. It's almost like the producers
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: were like, well, can you see being with him forever?
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: And then she's like, I can see being in his
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: arms forever. Like I've been able. I've said I haven't
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: really like lied or anything in the I T M Room,
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: but there are certain things that you end up like
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: trying to act, to say with certainty when you definitely
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: don't feel certain about them. But you're like, I'm gonna
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: get through this line because I know I want to
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: get out of here, and I just feel like that's
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: how she's been talking about Tyler, which I know is
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: shocking to all of America. He has one point one
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: million followers, and that is unprecedented for a male UH contestant.
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: I don't think any contestant has ever gotten that from
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: one season, one point one million followers. He has Gigi
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Hadid following him on Instagram. This man is wanted, but
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: I don't know how much he's wanted by Hannah Uh. Conversely,
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: the Jed Day was messy, not just the family component,
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: but also the boat component in which Hannah was super
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: ce sick or just sick in general over the decision
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: that she had to make. But it's the one that
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: she connects. He's the guy that she connects with the most.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: And I just feel like, I don't know, it's it's
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: there between the two of them, And even though it's there,
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: I still don't think that's her husband. I don't even
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: think Hannah thinks that either of these guys are her husband.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: The more that I watch her, like the all the
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: little nuances in these episodes, I didn't even know that
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: she's like referring to husband, She's referring to an engagement,
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: but she's not saying like this is my forever guy.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: So if this, if she ends up picking Jed, and
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: the whole girlfriend thing, uh continues to just make this
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: whole situation even sloppier. I feel like I see her
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: being like, you know what, at the end of the day,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: I didn't even see myself marrying him and being single.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: That's my prediction for what could happen tomorrow if she
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: ends up picking Jed. But like I said, like we
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: have inside sources saying looks as if even the producers
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: don't know what's going to go down tomorrow's live episode,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: so that is pretty juicy. It is definitely, it's funny,
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: and this is one of those seasons. Actually, I've got
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: to admit, we went into it and I was critical
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: of Hannah. You weren't. You're super supportive of her, like
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: this is a great choice, and then it hit me like, yeah, Okay,
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun she's gonna be awkward, she's
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: gonna be funny. But how are they really going to
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: do anything different with her season as they have in
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: the past, And somehow, some way they pulled off once
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: again where this season will have an ending unlike anything
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: we've seen before. I'm telling you, we're gonna be here
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: talking about it though. The almost famous podcast is going
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: no meat where. No matter what we do, we're gonna
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: be here talking. So we're gonna have an episode after
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: the final finale as well. It's gonna be great, it's
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: gonna be wild, We're gonna have fun with it. Uh,
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: and just holding onto your seats. We're gonna have a
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: special guest who who's that? We can't even say. I
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: don't even know if it's confirmed for us. I don't
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: even know if they're giving us a name yet, but
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: we are give being given a special guest. They're not
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: telling us who it is, but we know it's special
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: and it's a man, and it's even more special than
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- 1:07:49Speaker 1: favorite time in the podcast. Yeah, we've got to. I mean,
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: that's the coolest thing is when we have time in
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: a podcast to do a few emails. Um, and I
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: think there's a few on here that we should definitely highlight.
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: Here's here's the here's the question. Okay, from Tallia, We've
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: just been talking about Paradise a lot. The question she
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: has is can Luke P redeem himself? Something said on
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: this week's pod really stood out to me. It was
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: a disgusting discussion on whether Luke P could ever redeem
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: himself or going batchel on Paradise. From what I understood
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: the group consists was that he could not redeem himself.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: This made me think of Chris ran Done, who was
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: somewhat of villain on Becca season. However, Chris ended up
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: finding love with Crystal, who was the villain on our season.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: Maybe if Luke went on Paradise and found love not engage,
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: everyone's perception of him would shift. What do you both
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: think of this? Would a good love story? Undo or
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: rewrite the narrative of a villain's nightmare? Wow? Great email?
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: Tell you you really make me consider I think it would.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: I think if Luke P went on to Paradise and
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: kind of humbled, humbled himself and didn't take such a
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: stance like he was always right and that everybody else
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: in the world had to be wrong because he had
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: you know, got on his side then, and and maybe
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: he opened his heart up to actually falling in love
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: and being vulnerable. I think we would all say good
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: on you. I think Talia, what we were talking about
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: as the group in Tahoe was that we're concerned that,
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: based on mental all, that he is at the point
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: yet where he could redeem himself. I think we're still
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: like a little bit worried that he hasn't learned enough yet,
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: especially back when UM filming started for Paradise, which was
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: in early June. That would have meant that he only
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: got off Hannah season about a month earlier. But I'm
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: not saying that it's impossible and that he can't. I
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: think that we don't see him in previous or Paradise,
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: and I think he's The likelihood of him being there
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: is UM not high. But I do think it'd be
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: a great thing for him to do to try to
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: redeem himself next summer for Paradise, and then it'll give
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: people the audience some time to cool down on their
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: feelings about Luke anyway. Yeah, yeah, I mean know, I
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: think honestly he's going to kind of fade out and
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: and it will no longer be a thing. He and
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: I got into it on Twitter last week. Pretty good brother,
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: I guess his brother. Yeah, I heard about the thing. Yeah,
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: It's just frustrating to me, and I'm done with it.
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes it's it's like a clinging gong. It
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: just can't get anything to like, you can't even converse
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: and when you know, the one thing that I just
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: really upsets me about people is when they dismiss other
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: people completely and they don't even want to have a conversation.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: And and this thing there's this like idea Ashley and
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: and it's happened for years, and it's one of the
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: biggest problems with with Christianity and the church is once
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: you have a topic that your stand firm on and
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: you have and anybody disagrees with you, you just go
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: to this thing of like, well, of course the world
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: is gonna do agree with me because I'm not of
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: the world. And that's always a comment that you hear,
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: is like, I'm not of the world, so the world
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: is going to disagree with me. They won't be on
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: my side. And it's such a b S way to
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: just dismiss any type of like good debate or conversation
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: into seed to come to truth and that was what's happening.
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: So I'm done with it. I'm not good. I'm I'm
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: no longer participating in the loop P story. All right,
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: then let's move on to another email. This one is
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: from Bailey. It's about my sister's speech at the wedding.
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: Instead of doing the super nerve racking speeches in front
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: of everyone, we had the maid of honor best man's
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: siblings pre record of video speeches and then we had
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: them all compiled onto one DVD and had it played
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: on a projector at the reception. And doing this, we
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: now have copies of the speeches and it's fun to
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: go back and watch some time to time. Uh, I
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: don't know how I feel. I mean, like, this is
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: great for you guys. I'm glad that you did this
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: because you you like the way it turned out. I
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: think we're going to have the speeches on tape from
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: the videographers anyway. I like uh an in person speech,
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: but I did tell my sister that I would prefer
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: her to record her speech on video like you guys did,
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: then have her not do a speech at all, or
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: have her speech done at the rehearsal dinner. So thank
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: you for this suggestion. It's definitely something I've considered. I
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: wouldn't do it for everyone. I like the in person speeches,
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: but if my sister is truly that nervous, then I'm
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: fine with her doing a video. I told I was
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: joking on my I don't get a podcast, that the
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: best case scenario for her would be if we had
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: um what are they called a hologram, A hologram of
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: Lauren just all of a sudden, she goes for and
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: she pops up it as a twin version next to herself,
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: and she gives the space that way. Yeah, you're just
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: a few you're just a few years too early getting
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: married in I know. I was like, Lauren, you could
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: lip sync it. I was like, well, the DJ play it,
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: you just have to memorize it so you can lip
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: sync it. Uh, that's awesome. Hey, Ashley, you're the best.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: So pumped for you and Jerry coming up soon. We're
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: gonna keep talking about your wedding, even though you feel
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: like we're over talked it. I know that the world
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: is so I don't know. Pretty sure they're tired of it.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: Pretty sure they're tired of it. We'll see. Hey, uh,
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: we have another episode coming out after the finale. Until then,
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: hold onto your cease, Bachelor Nation, because the word we
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: hit is that nobody knows how this thing can end.
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: But make sure you tune in because we'll be breaking
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: it down with you. With that I've been been Ashley,
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: See you later, next episode tomorrow. Follow the Benn and
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