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- 0:50All right, yeah, there we go. All right, we were
- 0:52doing it. Yeah, finally. It's happening. Yeah.
- 0:54Yeah, dude, I'm happy. That's great, man. Thank
- 0:56you. I'm happy that it's finally. Thank you for...
- 0:58for being cool and patient and dealing with my
- 1:02craziness. It's all good, man. It's all good.
- 1:06Being here in Texas has kind of like taken me
- 1:11out of that New York, like go, go, go. Everything
- 1:14has to be on time. If it's not on time, that's
- 1:18a problem kind of mode. Yeah. So like living
- 1:21here, it's kind of like taken me out of it. It's
- 1:23like, okay, it's okay. Yeah, it's more go with
- 1:27the flow here. Go with the flow. And, you know,
- 1:30people have, you know, different cultures have
- 1:35different, you know, timings also. So not everyone.
- 1:41And the thing about living in New York is like
- 1:45New York in itself is its own country, kind of
- 1:49like culture. Yeah. And you kind of like move
- 1:52out of it. you're in a different world. You're
- 1:56like, okay, now I am the problem. Because I'm
- 2:01always on time. I'm always looking for efficiency.
- 2:04I'm always like, so in New York City, if you're
- 2:08on time, you're late. And if you're late, don't
- 2:12bother. And that actually means don't bother
- 2:15because there's a hundred people standing right
- 2:19after you. They're going to take your work. Yeah,
- 2:22pretty much. Did you, like, take the subway everywhere?
- 2:25Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cars, that's, you
- 2:30know, a different... Subways, walk, you walk
- 2:34everywhere. Yeah. But the thing about, like,
- 2:38timing... See, I grew up in Pakistan. Yeah. And
- 2:44Pakistan and southern part of America... Because
- 2:49they kind of like fall on a, on a very, uh, I
- 2:53believe on the same latitude. It's the same temperature
- 2:55line across the world. And it's kind of like
- 2:58producing the same kind of culture. And what
- 3:03I've. Like the temperature goes. Yeah. So a temperature
- 3:06produces a certain type of culture. Yeah. And
- 3:10what I've been noticing is like, yeah, that's,
- 3:13uh, so when I came. grew up in Pakistan and came
- 3:18to New York, you become efficient and then you
- 3:22kind of like move here and it's like, oh, I'm
- 3:25back into the same culture that I kind of grew
- 3:28up in because timing. When you left Pakistan,
- 3:32did you, did you go right to New York? I'm sorry.
- 3:35Okay, cool. So you went right to New York. And
- 3:37then, uh, so it wasn't like a culture shock.
- 3:39I feel like coming from Pakistan and going to
- 3:42New York would be like, kind of like, holy shit.
- 3:45It was a huge culture shock, but, um, my dad
- 3:49had been in New York since the early nineties
- 3:52and we were growing up in Pakistan and, uh, growing
- 3:57up there, you, because you have like a reference
- 4:02of New York city and. We would get clothes or
- 4:06occasionally snickers, sneakers and all the equipment,
- 4:10you know. I was like, snickers? No, snickers
- 4:12too. Snickers too. Snickers, Hershey's. So we
- 4:17kind of like had a little bit of a like input
- 4:21of like America and New York. And also you watch
- 4:24media and growing up under. Also went to English
- 4:32medium schools. So English kind of was like your
- 4:37second language. I wouldn't say second, but kind
- 4:40of like a first language. That's the first language
- 4:42you learn in school and your own language is
- 4:46your second language as a subject. Yeah. So that's
- 4:50how you kind of like, okay. It wasn't like, oh,
- 4:54I'm, when I'm coming to New York, it's like,
- 4:56oh, it's completely, I don't even know the language
- 4:59kind of a shock, but it was like, Oh, now I just
- 5:02have to adjust to this, to this pace. So in Pakistan,
- 5:10how would you describe, I guess, the pacing?
- 5:15Paint a picture of where you came from versus
- 5:19New York. So growing up in Pakistan, 80s and
- 5:2590s, It was seriously a third world country back
- 5:30then. And it was like, uh, poverty. Like you
- 5:34see it everywhere and very slow. So the things
- 5:40you kind of like see on the television, like
- 5:43go the poverty of India and Pakistan. That's
- 5:46kind of what it was, but it was growing by the
- 5:49early two thousands. It kind of like got a little
- 5:52bit of like a jolt and. mid nineties is also
- 5:59the history of Pakistan is kind of like has Islamic
- 6:04fundamentalists. They come in and go and they
- 6:06take charge and they go and then the moderates
- 6:09come in. And so every time there was a long period
- 6:14when we had like the Islamic So in that time,
- 6:19there was the media was like blocked or you would
- 6:22have just one state channel or one channel that.
- 6:27So our influence was from India. Growing up over
- 6:31like there, we would watch Indian media more
- 6:34than our own media because we didn't really have
- 6:37enough media. But early 2000s and mid 90s is
- 6:41when the satellite dishes came in. So the satellite
- 6:45dishes kind of brought. MTV and just like mid
- 6:4990s is when the you remember that show the grind
- 6:53on MTV. There was a show like house parties.
- 6:57Oh yeah. Like real world. Yeah. It was like,
- 7:00Oh, so then that's when you first time you kind
- 7:02of like, Oh, That's what happens. Wow. So how
- 7:06old were you like when you first saw like this
- 7:08MTV thing? 12, 13 maybe like something like that.
- 7:12Yeah. Did you ever watch Beavis and Butthead?
- 7:14Beavis and Butthead, of course. Yeah. So from
- 7:18that cable television, we would get Cartoon Network
- 7:22as well. Oh, hell yeah. So we were getting a
- 7:25lot of channels from like from that day, but
- 7:28we would have to have like a huge dish antenna
- 7:31on top of your house. And yeah, and then you
- 7:34would have to have a receiver and then, oh my
- 7:36God, it was kind of like a big deal. So this
- 7:40was like pretty exciting for y 'all to get this
- 7:43stuff. Yeah, we were getting like Nike shoes
- 7:47and clothings and we were like wearing all these,
- 7:51but that's kind of what was the difference was
- 7:55you're growing up in a third world country with
- 7:59a certain... I wouldn't call it privilege, but
- 8:02it was just a little bit of like, oh, I have
- 8:05my dad's in America. Oh, okay. Yeah. So was that
- 8:09like looked at like at in high regard? Well,
- 8:12in that society, it's, uh, well, yeah, you have
- 8:16a little bit more money than the rest of them.
- 8:18Gotcha. And then you're going to English schools
- 8:21and you know, your parents are putting all their
- 8:24money into your education. So, so rest of the,
- 8:29um, rest of the people around you, you kind of
- 8:34like, okay, I really have to, I can't, you know,
- 8:38be, and, you know, I don't want to be showing
- 8:42off or this kind of, yeah. But that, that society,
- 8:49I was earlier, I was talking about how it's so
- 8:51similar to here and it's like the similarities
- 8:55are, and now I'm kind of like working on this
- 8:58entire like set of how many material around it,
- 9:01like, why does it make all sense? Yeah. And I
- 9:04think it's the heat, it produces a certain temperature
- 9:07where timing is all, you know, people are like,
- 9:12they're all, they're very polite. Here? Here.
- 9:16They're very polite here. Here, they're very
- 9:18polite in Pakistan. Everyone's that, what I'm
- 9:22saying is that temperature produces a very polite
- 9:25culture, but... Interesting. From that politeness,
- 9:30like you're always saying yes. Right. And you
- 9:34kind of like lose authenticity when you're like,
- 9:36okay, I said yes. Did I really mean it? Man,
- 9:39is that what it is? So from growing up in that
- 9:45culture, I come to New York City where it's like,
- 9:50you have, no one's going to give you any quarters
- 9:53if you... Flake or mistake or this. Mm -hmm.
- 9:57It's like you bring your hundred percent a game
- 10:00Or don't come at all. Yeah. Yeah, so that kind
- 10:06of like changes your a bit of a No, I have to
- 10:10be more authentic Sure, and when I say a yes,
- 10:14I should be there half an hour before Yeah, gotcha.
- 10:19So that's like your whole, like if you're on
- 10:21time, you're late kind of thing. That's where
- 10:23you get it is New York. But living in New York
- 10:27with that mentality does create a lot of stress
- 10:31too. Yeah. Yeah. So what was it in New York that
- 10:34you were doing that you figured out that, oh
- 10:37shit, being on time is going to be late? Was
- 10:40it like auditions and things like that? Like
- 10:42for... Everything, like functional utilities.
- 10:49everything will make you feel that you're slow.
- 10:53So it's literally like just life there. Everything.
- 10:57That the card that you swipe for subway, if you
- 11:00are swiping it too slow, it won't open and it
- 11:04will tell you you're swiping too slow. Okay.
- 11:07And you won't be able to go. And we're talking
- 11:09about the train, right? The train, yeah, the
- 11:11subway train. No, no, it's okay. My fat ass just
- 11:14went like $5 foot long, dude. Subway, when you
- 11:19go down the subway, you have to run a card and
- 11:22the card, if you don't swipe it fast enough,
- 11:27you won't be able to go. And it will tell you
- 11:30over, you're swiping too slow. Really? You don't
- 11:34even be like, dude, hurry up, bro. Yeah. So like
- 11:38last time after living here, I've been here three
- 11:41and a half years now. Last time I was back at
- 11:43home and I swiped the car to get into the subway
- 11:48and it's like, and it's like swiping too slow.
- 11:51I'm like, yo, Texas is getting to you. And I
- 11:55could see that, like that, that railing thing
- 11:57that stops you. It stops you right in your legs.
- 12:00And if you're like not... If you're moving too
- 12:03fast, like how New Yorkers are, it hits you really
- 12:06hard in your legs. And then you got people behind
- 12:08you like, hurry up, you bastard. So everything
- 12:11is like, get going, get moving. Get going, hurry
- 12:14up. And then here in Texas, it's just, it's a
- 12:16lot. It's like just whenever, man. It's like,
- 12:21it's a very Manana culture. I remember you saying
- 12:25that the other day and I was like, man, that's
- 12:26pretty good. I wish I could remember that. Yeah,
- 12:29it is. Well, see, Pakistani culture, Indian culture,
- 12:36same thing. We have a problem today. We'll think
- 12:41about thinking about it tomorrow. Yeah. And then
- 12:44tomorrow never comes. Have you ever been to Maine?
- 12:47Maine, I have not. Okay. Yeah. So I was in Maine
- 12:50and Maine is like even slower. Yeah. Like Maine
- 12:54is even more like, dude. We'll see it was next
- 12:57week, bro Island time or something. Yeah, I felt
- 13:03like Maine was like my like the way that I am
- 13:06as a person I felt like that that was a state.
- 13:09It's just like sub dude like just totally chill
- 13:13around Like but uh, but yes continue about New
- 13:17York. Yeah, New York, man. I came to New York
- 13:202006 2006. 2006. And well, growing up in Pakistan,
- 13:27I was, because we were going to good education,
- 13:31good schools. Yeah. You said some last time about
- 13:34Cambridge. Yeah. Cambridge university has, used
- 13:41to have, now I think they don't have it. All
- 13:43levels and A levels are like our grade nine,
- 13:4710 and 11 is all levels, ordinary levels. And
- 13:52A levels is advanced levels, 12 and 30. So that
- 13:55British education kind of like trains you to
- 14:00come to Ivy League universities in America. That's
- 14:03insane. Yeah. So all those schools are training
- 14:06these kids to get really good grades and come
- 14:10out here. So I was studying in that school, banking
- 14:14family, studying accounting, becoming a chartered
- 14:19accountant. So in the final year, final year
- 14:23of my education on grade 12, I was already studying
- 14:27accounting and I'm like, I can't do it. That's
- 14:29crazy. They had you studying that in accounting?
- 14:32Like, or in grade 12, accounting in grade 12?
- 14:36Yeah. Oh my God. And we had advanced mathematics.
- 14:38We were doing calculus. We were doing permutation.
- 14:42A lot of stuff that was. Whoa. College stuff
- 14:45that is. So when those kids who are coming from
- 14:49Pakistan and India, coming from that education
- 14:52system, when they come here, they're two years
- 14:55ahead. So when these tech bros, Indian tech bros
- 14:59are coming in or Pakistani tech folks are coming
- 15:02in, why are they so good? Because their foundation
- 15:05is laid in a better, because our exposure to
- 15:10calculus, our exposure to a lot of these hard
- 15:13subjects is in great nine and ten. Mm -hmm. Where
- 15:19this comes way later in, you know, the way, well,
- 15:26you know. Yeah, so it just basically like you,
- 15:29you just, you're more advanced. You learn a lot
- 15:31quicker. Yes. You know, and you learn a lot more,
- 15:34obviously, because, I mean. I just, I don't know,
- 15:37I could never see like a portion of my life ever
- 15:40dedicated to any kind of accounting. Like what
- 15:43so the fuck ever. Like I don't, I still use a
- 15:47calculator to count. Hey man, I am with you on
- 15:51that. And that was me, like a 14, 15 year old
- 15:55kid. I'm like, I cannot do this. No, you can't
- 15:58fucking do that. Like you don't want to do that.
- 15:59You want to be out like partying and having fun.
- 16:02Yeah, exactly. Back in the day, you know, so
- 16:10this is what happened. One day, I'm like sitting
- 16:16in the library and I'm balancing books, accounting.
- 16:20How old are you? 15, 16 years old. 14, 15, balancing
- 16:25books. I'm just imagining you with like a little
- 16:28big hat, just like balancing your little books.
- 16:32Anyway, go on. So back then you had to draw,
- 16:36this is pre -Excel, it's like we were still drawing
- 16:42ledgers with hand and we had to write everything
- 16:45down and then balance it out. And I was fed up
- 16:47and I went out and I found like four books. There
- 16:52were only four books of arts, how to draw in
- 16:55the entire library. Wow. And I'm like, hey man,
- 16:58librarian, can I take these home? He's like,
- 17:00yeah. He looked at me, he's like, what are you
- 17:02doing? I took him home and I drew, started drawing
- 17:06and then I drew like a vase and some highlights
- 17:12and I'm like, I am not going back to accounting
- 17:17ever again. No, you get a drawing book. I wouldn't
- 17:20want to go back to ledgers either. No, and I
- 17:23gave it up and I gave it up and the whole...
- 17:28Like whole family and everyone, my school, everyone's
- 17:32like, yo, what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm
- 17:35taking up arts. And it was like a big shock.
- 17:40My teachers sat me down. They're like, are you
- 17:42sure you're not going to get a grade in arts?
- 17:44What are you going to do? I'm like, I don't know,
- 17:48but I know one thing. I don't want to balance
- 17:51these books. I'm very good at it. I'm very good
- 17:55at it. I'm sorry, forgive me for laughing. I
- 17:57was just like, of course, dude, of course. Like,
- 18:00yes, you don't want to fucking balance fucking
- 18:02books. Dude, the thought of that now like upsets
- 18:06me. And the thing is when you can't find an irregularity,
- 18:11you have to do the whole thing again. And if
- 18:15you're not right, you can't just put it into...
- 18:19So I was I couldn't do it man. Just yeah, you're
- 18:22just like fuck Yeah, we were your teachers like
- 18:25oh no, I can't believe we lost another one. Yeah,
- 18:27well The thing was that I was the only artist
- 18:31in the entire school. Everybody else was good
- 18:33with ledgers. Yeah, they were fine and Well,
- 18:37I don't even know it goes in a ledger. But anyway,
- 18:39well, there's a lot of expenses and the incomes
- 18:45that are coming in, the expenses. Oh yeah, we
- 18:47wanted to watch out. Yeah, I was like, we don't
- 18:49want to get into ledgers here, dude. I can explain
- 18:53the whole thing. I think there was like four
- 18:55car accidents that might have just happened,
- 18:57just in that sentence alone. They just probably
- 18:59just nodded off immediately. No, yeah, no. We
- 19:04don't want ledgers. Yeah. So by the time you
- 19:07get to New York and everything, like, are you
- 19:09like drawing like crazy in your art books now?
- 19:12So, uh, because becoming an artist, they gave
- 19:18me all the art projects and, and I'm like, okay.
- 19:25So one art project they gave me was like, Hey,
- 19:28you have to go out and make a music video. In
- 19:312002, Pakistan, in Pakistan. Okay. Just making
- 19:33sure I'm following. Yeah. So in Pakistan, so
- 19:37the coming to New York would, I would tell you
- 19:40like what brought me to New York. So, um, they're
- 19:45like, you have to make a music video. I'm like,
- 19:47all right. Oh yeah. Figure it out. So I took
- 19:50a audio slaves, um, show me how to live. And,
- 19:55uh, we hired a donkey. And we had him run around
- 20:01the city and we shot it, borrowed cameras, borrowed
- 20:06money for editing, but we got it done. We got
- 20:10that video done and we sent it to this international
- 20:14competition and won the first prize. Oh yeah.
- 20:18And I'm like, you know what? That's what I'm
- 20:23going to be doing in my life. Yeah. The creation.
- 20:26I don't know what I wanted to create, but I was
- 20:30still drawing, painting and all that, but that
- 20:32was okay. So now comes a time when everyone was
- 20:38leaving for their Ivy league universities and
- 20:40I was left behind in Pakistan. And I'm like,
- 20:43oh shit, what have I done? Fuck. Fuck. Right?
- 20:47Yeah. No school to go to. And I'm just like in
- 20:53a artist studio in a basement, like drawing and
- 20:58learning just line, like control line. We would
- 21:02sit there all day just drawing straight lines.
- 21:05Yeah, all day. But that was practice to control
- 21:09the hand and the line. So one school opened up
- 21:17and I kind of like walked into it and they had
- 21:19a liberal arts program, film television program.
- 21:23And I'm like, okay. I've never, I don't have
- 21:26grades, but I did make a music video, so would
- 21:29you consider that? The dean was like, yeah, sure,
- 21:32here, get some scholarship and. Yeah. Um, so
- 21:37three years film school, Pakistan. Hell yeah.
- 21:40Bro, it was one of the best times of my life.
- 21:42Cause, uh, it was a very small, it was just starting.
- 21:46So it was a very small education. Like we have
- 21:49a small group. So you're just like watching films
- 21:52all day and smoke. What kind of movies would
- 21:55you watch? So as a film student, it was like
- 22:01you have to watch international cinema as much
- 22:05as you can. Yeah. And so you're studying basically
- 22:09films. So for three years, I would say I would
- 22:12average a movie a day. Yeah. So it was just like
- 22:16just random movies or were they specific movies?
- 22:20So sometimes you would get So there was this
- 22:23one book in our library, a thousand films you
- 22:26must watch before you die. Oh, nice. So, and
- 22:32you would kind of like go through that book.
- 22:35And if you would find, this is DVD time, man.
- 22:38We had, we could find it VHS or DVD. That's early
- 22:442000s is what I'm talking about. Yeah. So any
- 22:48DVD we could find, we would watch it. a friend
- 22:52of mine had a huge collection of DVDs he'd been
- 22:55collecting. His, you know, grandparents were
- 22:59filmmakers in Pakistan, so he had a huge collection
- 23:02of, so we would watch like German cinema, Brazilian
- 23:07cinema, man, you name it, Chinese. There's everything.
- 23:11Everything. You're just like consuming all that
- 23:14input. And... Did you have a favorite movie?
- 23:19Favorite's kind of like... That was one of the
- 23:24things you kind of like have to, as a filmmaker,
- 23:26you kind of have to lose favorites. Of course,
- 23:29of course. Yeah, that's such a silly question.
- 23:31How was Only Bombs? Yeah, he just asked me my
- 23:33favorite movie every now and again. No, but learning
- 23:40from all that, you kind of like have a sense
- 23:43of like when you see something and you're like,
- 23:45hey, that's good. That's good, you know. That's
- 23:50a good movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah right now. I recently
- 23:53have been so impressed by Shogun Shogun is a
- 23:58those old like samurai kind of movies. It's a
- 24:00FX TV show Oh, it's a TV show and I think it's
- 24:04like a miniseries but Man, they did a great job
- 24:09with like everything. Oh, yeah, I like I don't
- 24:12watch shows but then like But I will. I'm not
- 24:17making a personal choice to be like, no, I'm
- 24:20not watching shows today. I get bored so easily.
- 24:27Me too, man. I'm with you, but that's what I'm
- 24:30saying. When you do catch, something catches
- 24:32your eye and you're like, no, I gotta watch that.
- 24:36There's another show, Pantheon, if you're into
- 24:40tech and all that. It's on Netflix. Pantheon
- 24:43is a... show about uploaded intelligence. Uploaded
- 24:47intelligence? Yes. Fuck, I need some of that
- 24:50shit, dude. Yes. There are some days I'm like,
- 24:55God, dude, I have nothing to download. You know,
- 24:59like, nothing today, man. I'm like, fuck, dude.
- 25:01It just, it gets like that. You know what I mean?
- 25:03Do you work a lot? Like - I do, yes. Yeah. It's
- 25:06just, so you know what I'm talking about. Like,
- 25:08basically, like, you work a lot. You're just,
- 25:09after a while, you're like, fuck. Yeah, I know,
- 25:12I know, I know. Like you just said, I don't want
- 25:15to fucking work. And then you don't know what
- 25:17to do on your day off, you know? Yeah, exactly.
- 25:19Yeah. So you get to New York and everything.
- 25:21Did you? So from film school, I was, you know,
- 25:28I was doing really good, man. Yeah. Like films
- 25:31from Dean's Honor List and films getting selected
- 25:36in India. So it was a lot of like things kind
- 25:40of like were upping. coming and I visit my dad
- 25:43in New York city and he's like, Hey, do you want
- 25:47to look into a school here? And I'm like, okay,
- 25:53now is my chance to audition to the Ivy league,
- 25:58you know, standard of education in acting. So
- 26:04I, even better, even better Stella Adler's acting
- 26:10studio. is where Marlon Brando studied, is where
- 26:14all Robert De Niro and they all study method
- 26:16acting. It's Stella Adler's studio of acting
- 26:19in New York City. And I go and I audition, man.
- 26:23And they're like, yeah, welcome. Two years master's
- 26:28program in acting. Man, that was one of the best
- 26:31times of my life. It was like, you really understand
- 26:39acting. And you're like, okay, now I, I get.
- 26:45Yeah. You're really getting into it. You're really
- 26:47getting it. You're like, okay, you get it. But
- 26:49it was like, I was 21 years old when I got out
- 26:52of school and New York city, just out of school.
- 26:58Yeah. And I'm like, oh shit, it's the financial
- 27:02crisis, 09. Yeah. So you're out, wait, I'm sorry.
- 27:05Like, so you're out of acting school now in 09?
- 27:0809 is acting school. When I get out from acting
- 27:12school and financial crisis were upon us. So
- 27:15I started auditioning. Everyone was on strike.
- 27:19Broadway was on strike. Everyone was on strike,
- 27:22man. So couldn't really find anything, any work
- 27:25anywhere. So like, so during the acting thing,
- 27:29is this like where you like kind of like fell
- 27:31in love with comedy? No. In stand -up comedy?
- 27:34No, you just kind of were like, you were just
- 27:36loving, just acting. So in Pakistan, being the
- 27:42only artist, I kind of was like the one who would
- 27:46organize all the welcome parties and farewell
- 27:49parties as well, right? Yeah. So you kind of
- 27:52like on the mic, and I would imitate our principle
- 27:56And our principal, he was like really big, fat,
- 28:01popping eyes out. But he would talk like, kind
- 28:04of like, that was his voice. And I would just
- 28:06go do his voice on the stage and everyone would
- 28:10be dying laughing. But I never thought that,
- 28:14you know, that's something that I want to do.
- 28:16I was more of like, I want to create films. I
- 28:18want to do this. I want to be an actor. And during
- 28:23acting school, I fell in love with Shakespeare,
- 28:25man. Yeah. Oh man. Naturally. Yeah. You kind
- 28:29of like have to fall in love with Shakespeare.
- 28:31Yeah. Because as a practice in school, there
- 28:34are two things you kind of like always have to,
- 28:38um, it's a sonnet and a monologue. You kind of
- 28:42like, that's your daily, you kind of have to
- 28:45practice your monologues daily. For us, it's
- 28:47like the Romeo and Juliet, you know, uh, and,
- 28:53um, But yeah that kind of like the Romeo and
- 28:57Juliet what the Prologue the prologue for a Romeo
- 29:02Juliet. That's like our exercise. Mm -hmm and
- 29:06You pick a sonnet that's your like sonnet for
- 29:11life kind of like as an actor you kind of like
- 29:14practice every day Yeah, and mine is like I think
- 29:18the sonnet 60 something sin of self -love. So
- 29:22you Do that as a vocal exercise as you pick that
- 29:25up. But that was kind of like my thing. But,
- 29:29um, who would you play? I'm sorry. I don't mean
- 29:32to keep interrupting. I'm just interested. I'm
- 29:34coming right to your point where who would I
- 29:38play? I wanted to play all the serious characters.
- 29:41I wanted to be like Tybalt. Uh, no, I actually
- 29:46wanted to be, um, Iago and I wanted to play serious
- 29:50character, Lear. I wanted to play, uh, Richard
- 29:53the third. That's like, uh, but they would cast
- 29:57me in, in comic roles. Uh, I think that I, yeah,
- 29:59I think that I was, uh, I was still hung up on
- 30:02the whole Romeo and Juliet thing. Oh, Romeo and
- 30:04Juliet. So when you said that, I was like...
- 30:06Oh, the serious ones? And like you wanted to
- 30:08be like Tibb, Alton, Romeo and Juliet? No, no,
- 30:10no, not Romeo and Juliet. But in Shakespeare,
- 30:14I wanted to play like hot spur, like the warrior
- 30:18characters and that. Mark Antony was one of my
- 30:22auditions, man. Mark Antony, Friends, Romans,
- 30:25Countrymen, that's like one of my... So not the
- 30:28popular singer? No, no. Mark Antony from Julius
- 30:32Caesar. Yeah. Sorry. When I kind of like start
- 30:36talking Shakespeare, I believe that everyone
- 30:39kind of like knows what I'm talking about. I
- 30:40can see you zoning out. I can see you like, wait,
- 30:43hold on. I was like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I
- 30:46know. I was like, if you, dude, if you whip out
- 30:47the word soliloquy right here, I swear. No, but
- 30:51that's a, no, that's really cool. So you would
- 30:53always get. You would always get chosen for like...
- 30:57For comic roles. For comic roles. Yeah. Like,
- 31:01no, you're playing village idiot. Village idiot.
- 31:04Yeah. So you're playing village idiot, you're
- 31:07Sylvius, you know, that's what you're doing.
- 31:11But I would do it so well that, you know, people
- 31:17would be laughing, falling out of their chairs.
- 31:19You see in the audience, you're like, what the
- 31:21hell? Right. But you're in character so much
- 31:24that the script and everything is doing its job.
- 31:26It just starts to become you, right? Yeah. Yeah.
- 31:29So from drama school, I found work at a bar as
- 31:38a bar back and slowly worked my way up to managing
- 31:44partner. Managing partner? Yeah. What was the
- 31:47managing part? Like at a bar? Like you became
- 31:50the manager of the bar? This bar was a huge club
- 31:52in downtown Manhattan, a place called M -15.
- 31:55It's gone now. Oh. And it was a 5 ,000 square
- 31:59foot club in Tribeca on Walker Street. And...
- 32:05You give a lot of detail. I think it's just so
- 32:10funny cause I'm sitting next to you and I'm like,
- 32:12wait, hold on. I was just there. I was like,
- 32:14is this that Cambridge thing where you explain
- 32:18something and you're just like, yeah, I was drinking
- 32:20out of a bottle. Yes, the bottle was plastic.
- 32:23Just to let you know. There was a screw top.
- 32:27I had a choice between a screw top and a... I'm
- 32:31like sitting there, can you drink the fucking
- 32:32water? You drink the fucking water. No, no, no.
- 32:35But no, that's really... cool that you could
- 32:37recall so much stuff like that. I could tell
- 32:40that like, like that your, your sense of observation
- 32:43is already extremely keen, you know, which kind
- 32:46of like, to me, like, you know, I feel like when
- 32:49you write your comedy and things like that, I
- 32:51could, I could feel like that you would have
- 32:53a lot of material because you took everything.
- 32:55Do you feel the same way? Yes. Yeah. That's where
- 32:58the stage is right now where I am, where I'm
- 33:00like, all this observation. And with cultural
- 33:04differences and all this, it's like comedies
- 33:06are coming up. Yeah. So this is where it comes
- 33:10from studying accounting, man. You kind of like
- 33:14have to go deep down into find out the irregularity,
- 33:19right? Yeah, I guess. In accounting? In accounting,
- 33:23when you were balancing anything, you have to
- 33:25kind of like go in everything, deep down in the
- 33:30rabbit holes to find what the problem is. So
- 33:33when that mentality, you take it into arts, into
- 33:37film, into anything, you're like, okay, I'm going
- 33:42deep. Wow. Interesting. I've never really thought
- 33:45about it like that before. So when I took it
- 33:47to acting, it was the same thing. I'm going Shakespeare,
- 33:49I'm going deep. Yeah, you're just going real,
- 33:51real deep. Right? So like, how long was it before
- 33:55you, I guess, from acting until you actually
- 33:59got up on stage at like an open mic? The bar
- 34:05kind of like took me. And that lifestyle, that
- 34:09nightlife, New York City just takes over. You're
- 34:13just like, I'm in my early twenties and I got
- 34:17the keys to a huge club in New York City. Man,
- 34:21I made it to the top of the world. That's pretty
- 34:23crazy. Bro, it was the best. It was like, you
- 34:27have all the attention and as an actor, you were...
- 34:30You know, you got the charm going. I think that
- 34:34was charm school for me because I learned so
- 34:37much about human psychology and people coming,
- 34:40talking to you, just having, you know, drunk
- 34:43conversations and all that. You kind of like
- 34:47soak it in as a human character. Oh, that character,
- 34:50that guy. You kind of like soak in because New
- 34:52York city, man, everyone in the world is there.
- 34:56You kind of like absorb all that. But that. takes
- 35:00a toll on you to that lifestyle. So I had turned
- 35:04into a 300 plus pound bottle down alcoholic man.
- 35:09It was puking my guts out every morning. It was
- 35:12that bad. It sucks. Yeah. It sucks really bad.
- 35:14I know, I know what you mean. How long have you,
- 35:16are you sober now? Yes. Yeah. How long have you
- 35:18been sober for? Uh, it's going to be five years
- 35:20now. 2021. Wow. So the pandemic kind of woke
- 35:26me up and uh, brought me back to zero. I was
- 35:32pumping gas at a gas station in Jersey during
- 35:34the pandemic and night shift, nothing to do and
- 35:39on Joe Rogan's podcast. And I'm like, okay, I
- 35:43can turn my life around first with health. And
- 35:48once I saw like Kill Tony when they moved out
- 35:56here. and they were giving Hans him a chance
- 36:01and Hans kind of like was coming up. That moment
- 36:07was like, hey, maybe that's my way back to arts
- 36:13and the life, the things that I went to school
- 36:16for. Maybe that's my way back to the stage or,
- 36:22you know, because... You know, you see Joe does
- 36:24it a lot for a lot of comedians. Yeah, like the
- 36:28stand -up comedy thing? For stand -up comedy.
- 36:29And I'm like, hey, the comics also do it for
- 36:32other comics. So you just, you know, start somewhere.
- 36:37And so this flat fat blob at the gas station
- 36:41kind of like thinking like, hey, man, maybe you
- 36:44got to get on Keltoni. Really? 2020 is when I'm
- 36:48like, I got to start preparing for Keltoni. because
- 36:52that's my way back to stage. And I kind of like
- 36:55realized, man, you always got casted in the comic
- 36:58role, but you wanted to play serious characters.
- 37:02Just lean into this comedy and see where it takes
- 37:05you. Yeah. Yeah. So that's when I shifted, when
- 37:10I'm like, okay, now I'm concentrating on comedy,
- 37:14stand -up comedy as an art form. Before that,
- 37:18I... I wouldn't even go to comedy shows in New
- 37:21York City. No, that was not even the question
- 37:24of like, oh, I want to be a comedian or stand
- 37:27up comic. No. And it was, it was like, okay.
- 37:33But that, that path of recovery from alcoholism
- 37:39and, you know, getting out of those addictions
- 37:42and learning your own patterns and learning all
- 37:44those things. A lot of these lessons kind of
- 37:47like, kind of like you learn and you want to
- 37:51tell your friends and your brothers and your
- 37:54sisters and be like, Hey, this is kind of like
- 37:57a lesson I learned. I see you in this predicament.
- 38:00I kind of came out of this in this way, but when
- 38:06you tell them they don't want to listen. And
- 38:10it's like a very like, Oh, who are you to tell
- 38:12us? So you're like, okay, how? Can I transfer
- 38:17this information without getting, you know, without
- 38:23making someone upset? So that's when I'm like,
- 38:27oh, maybe standup comedy is your tool to take
- 38:35a subject that's very hard to swallow and turn
- 38:39it into digestible. laughable material so you
- 38:46can transfer this information. So that was like,
- 38:48okay, now you have a purpose. Start from walking
- 38:53around the palms, man, getting turned by a whole
- 38:55gas station into a gym. There was a cement bag
- 39:01that was left in the rain and become like a rock.
- 39:04I taped it. That was like my weight. You couldn't
- 39:08find weights in early pandemic. So I had rudimentary
- 39:13weight. So I was working out at the gas station,
- 39:15man. It was like a Rocky movie. People were honking,
- 39:20passing by. I was running. And all my regular
- 39:24people who would come get gas trucks and everything,
- 39:28they would be like cheering me on. So every,
- 39:31you know, it took me a year to get sober, but
- 39:34once I got sober, it was game. And so your whole
- 39:37reason for sobriety was essentially to just get
- 39:41in the standup. Well, to get on stage. The school
- 39:47that I went to, and the whole sobriety time that
- 39:58it took me three, four years to like rewire myself,
- 40:04I had to study a lot of like ancient religion.
- 40:07So one thing happened to me and The one saying
- 40:12about New York City, if you can make it there,
- 40:14you can make it anywhere. The city will give
- 40:17you that. It will make you come to the top of
- 40:21the world. And you were able to feel that loneliness
- 40:26too. The loneliness at the top of the pyramid.
- 40:30It is very lonely. And I felt that. I'm like,
- 40:33I have everything. Thousand people dancing around
- 40:36me. I have lifestyle. I have. But there was no
- 40:41inner satisfaction that really was not, I was
- 40:45balancing books. Right. At the club. And yeah,
- 40:49and you were wanting to get up on stage. Or be
- 40:53creative in a way. So in that process of recovery,
- 40:58I learned from a lot of religions and all, they
- 41:02all kind of like bring you down into like living
- 41:10in the present, present moment. So art and all
- 41:17this kind of like brings you into what, did you
- 41:22have a question or so? No, no. Are we just. Yeah.
- 41:25Well, the question that I was asking was like,
- 41:28uh, from like New York, like when you get to
- 41:31New York and everything, like to stand up comedy.
- 41:36How'd you connect the dots to getting on stage
- 41:38as a standup comedian? So the thing was like,
- 41:42the reason that became standup was like, so I
- 41:45have all these lessons that I've learned. I need
- 41:48to transfer them to standup. And to, so, so Kill
- 41:58Tony, I'm like, okay. I'm going to go do or die
- 42:02on Keltoni. And if they give me a thumbs up,
- 42:06I'll continue with standup or see how it goes.
- 42:10Oh, okay. So, so you weren't really a standup
- 42:12comedian? No, I was not. Oh, okay. Gotcha. I
- 42:15was like, I'm going to go, I'm going to survive
- 42:17the minute and I'm going to bring material for
- 42:20the interview. But that was also just me. I had
- 42:25to get my confidence up, man. Cause like imagine
- 42:28300 pounds, you kind of like slowly, slowly you're
- 42:31building yourself back up. You're reducing your
- 42:34weight down and kill Tony first time. Yeah. I
- 42:38get on, they're like, pretty good, man. Yeah.
- 42:42Like you did all right. Yeah. Yeah. We'll survive
- 42:44the minute. And then interview was great. Did
- 42:47some Shakespeare too. I saw that. Yeah. Yeah,
- 42:50that was pretty good. That was Romeo and Juliet,
- 42:54right? And I was like, wow, that was pretty interesting.
- 42:56Like you got up there and did that and everything.
- 43:00Yeah, I don't remember I'm asking you how long
- 43:02you were doing stand -up for. Do you do like
- 43:05a lot like now? Are you like an open mic or anything?
- 43:09So stand -up comedy, so when that, when? Kill
- 43:15Tony kind of like gave me that boost and then
- 43:17second boost. I got on two times in the same
- 43:21year, a few months apart. Wow, that's crazy.
- 43:24And the second time it was the same thing. The
- 43:26interview was great, but that's when Tony and
- 43:29them were like, Hey, you have to take this seriously.
- 43:33Right. You have to go open mics, figure this
- 43:37out. Cause you know, you're good. Both interviews,
- 43:44hilarious, like we're dying laughing. He's like,
- 43:47how long you been doing comedy? I'm like, two,
- 43:49three months. Like, no, go do open mics workout.
- 43:52So I started doing a lot of open mics, 2023 is
- 43:57when I came out here. So first year, a lot of
- 44:00open mics and podcasting too. So I was like,
- 44:05hey, I'm going to get in the mix. I'm going to
- 44:07understand this, figure this all stand up comedy
- 44:09out. You get back in your ledger. Back in my,
- 44:12you know, all my, you know, so it being in that
- 44:18earlier, I was saying that staying present kind
- 44:22of is the root of all religions and sobriety
- 44:27kind of like taught me that take stay here. Yeah.
- 44:30So that brings me a lot of opportunities and
- 44:34everything in front of me. So stand up is kind
- 44:39of like has also another thing that I do want
- 44:44to, the whole idea of making it, I don't have
- 44:50that anymore. Kind of made it to the top of the
- 44:53world in New York city. So now with the whole
- 44:56idea of like, I have to make it in stand up,
- 45:01that drive is not that prominent anymore. It's
- 45:04more like let the process unfold on its own because
- 45:09it takes you 10 years to get it and you just
- 45:12started. You're three years old. Don't jump ahead.
- 45:17Don't let the process happen on its own. Yeah.
- 45:22So now I do a lot of writing. So this is my third
- 45:30year, fourth year in standup. And I've been starting
- 45:33to doing a lot of performances, but first year
- 45:37it was a lot of open mics. It was just like grind,
- 45:41grind, grind, this mic, that mic. What are you
- 45:44talking about? What are you talking about? Yeah.
- 45:47So like what's your writing been like lately?
- 45:52So recently it's like, we were talking about
- 45:56observation. So now I'm like observing things
- 46:00that are very, Like around here in Austin. Yeah.
- 46:06And cultural differences from New York city.
- 46:09And then you have, you see the patterns of this
- 46:13culture, like Texans in the South and you see
- 46:17all these patterns and you start like, okay,
- 46:20this is the material that I want to talk about.
- 46:23Like when the politeness is just on the face
- 46:27and when you do get back in my Uber and you start.
- 46:31taking a shit on your host, man. And I'm like,
- 46:35why would you be doing that, right? People are
- 46:39coming out of these parties and they're saying
- 46:43bye, love you, and they get in my car. And they're
- 46:46just immediately shitting on the host. On the
- 46:48host. Oh, okay, yeah. I'm not saying anything.
- 46:52I'm just observing. You're just listening. I'm
- 46:53just listening. I'm like, why is this happening,
- 46:58right? But now the comedy is like, you want to
- 47:05talk about these things? How are you going to
- 47:07make these jokes? Yeah. Do you, so do you just
- 47:11take it and I just kind of go write like with
- 47:13it or? So with writing, my writing process is
- 47:16more like, uh, if I write something down, it
- 47:22kind of like doesn't work for me. It kind of
- 47:26like binds me or something like that. Oh, okay.
- 47:30For me, it's more like, I have an idea and I'm
- 47:33just going to like, keep exploring it and talk
- 47:36to someone about it. Talk to one of my passengers
- 47:39about it. Oh, cool. How do you explore it? So
- 47:42this, um, um, politeness, like. Politeness? Politeness
- 47:52is a, is a subject like, um, people are very
- 47:56polite on, you know, Well, I keep saying yes
- 48:01in politeness. Like I want to make you comfortable.
- 48:04I'm going to say yes. Right. But I don't really
- 48:07mean it. Interesting. So now this subject, when
- 48:11I have passengers who are like Texans and all
- 48:15that, I raise this subject with them and we kind
- 48:18of like have a conversation like, Hey, from there
- 48:22you start like building like, okay, I'm going
- 48:26to take this, these, these things, and I'm going
- 48:30to incorporate into a joke that's going to come
- 48:34out of it. How it's going to come out of it is
- 48:38like, I don't know, but the universe kind of
- 48:44like provides every day you kind of like, oh,
- 48:47this, oh, this, but then a bit on its own starts
- 48:53to get crafted and it gets crafted in my head.
- 48:56And it gets solidified in my head. Yeah. And
- 49:00every time I start talking about it, it comes
- 49:03out the same way. It comes out the same way.
- 49:07Same way. So you're able to say the same thing
- 49:09over and over and over again. So it's like, yeah,
- 49:12it becomes like a belief on stage. Yeah. Like
- 49:14right now I've been working on this bit, like
- 49:17how a city of Austin is like your drunk friend
- 49:22who hasn't got his shit together. His house is
- 49:25a mess. There's dog hair everywhere You know,
- 49:29mm -hmm. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, this is very
- 49:32true. Yeah fucking HEB People bringing her goddamn
- 49:36dogs in all the time. I have dogs. I love dogs.
- 49:39Don't get me wrong Yeah, that's like kind of
- 49:41like bringing like bringing your dog over to
- 49:44somebody's house uninvited You know what I mean?
- 49:46No, I love dogs too. I do that been taking care
- 49:49of my friends dogs Don't fucking bring your dog
- 49:51over uninvited Anyway, sorry. No, I got booed
- 49:57on for kill Tony and talking about dogs. I'm
- 49:59like, I don't know. People are very sensitive
- 50:01about dogs. Yeah. Cause uh, yeah. Cause it's
- 50:05kind of like, I don't want to talk any shit about
- 50:07on kill Tony was like, Hey, you'd hate dogs.
- 50:10I'm like, no, I don't hate dogs. I'm just, you
- 50:13know, this obsession of people with dogs is,
- 50:17and then I got booed. I'm like, Oh, I think like
- 50:20people. Don't know like I get it. I get it because
- 50:23when I was younger I got bit by a dog. Mm -hmm.
- 50:25So I say younger Fucking like 20 years ago and
- 50:29I was still 19. Well, but anyway Yeah, no, so
- 50:33I I got bit by a dog back then and then I stopped
- 50:38liking dogs Like I started hating them. Oh, no
- 50:41for like a long time And so like I really wasn't
- 50:45very like friendly with them. Okay, but then
- 50:48but then I sort of like You know, basically met
- 50:52my girlfriend's dog and her dog kind of changed.
- 50:55Changed, yeah. Yeah, everything. And now I love
- 50:57dogs, but like, yeah, you're right. Like, you
- 51:01know, people like, you know, the, the people
- 51:03look at them, like they're like dog, like they're
- 51:06their pets, like, but, uh, but people look at
- 51:08them like they're like real, like they're human
- 51:11babies. You know what I mean? There's a girl
- 51:14who brings her. dog at the creek and she holds
- 51:18that dog in a way that I'm like, bro, what are
- 51:22you doing? It's like, I like it. I get it. I
- 51:26get it. I get it. But at the same time, I'm kind
- 51:27of like, like I just, I don't know. I can't find
- 51:30myself going to that like extreme, but, but I
- 51:34do get it because it's not like, they're not
- 51:36like dogs aren't like, like hamsters and they're
- 51:40not like livestock, you know, like they actually
- 51:43have. Like to me, like dogs have more of a personality
- 51:46than like cats do. Like I can see a dog, but
- 51:52like when it comes to like cats, for some reason
- 51:54I'm like, I just, I just feel like they just
- 51:58want to kill me. Like they only want me to die.
- 52:01Cats are very mean. Yeah. Yeah. Like, but you
- 52:04know, I don't know. Like I tried to be like a
- 52:06cat person, you know, back in the day, but good.
- 52:09I couldn't pull it off. It was just that fucking
- 52:11reconsider all the litter. Like, I fucking hate
- 52:15litter. You know, I'm just not a pet guy. I'm
- 52:18just not a big pet guy. I think that's really
- 52:19what it is. I think that's what it boils down
- 52:21to. Are you a big pet guy? Do you like iguanas?
- 52:24I grew up with pets. Like, in Pakistan too, we
- 52:27had dogs, cats around all the time. So it wasn't
- 52:32really like, I don't mind pets at all. Yeah.
- 52:36I live in a studio apartment, so... Having a
- 52:39pet in a studio apartment, I wouldn't want to
- 52:42leave the pet. No, I wouldn't. I don't want that.
- 52:45No way. No. There is no fucking way. No. I like,
- 52:52I had trouble. Like we have a, we have a fairly
- 52:54big apartment. I say, I have trouble having the
- 52:56fucking dogs in here. No, one of the reasons
- 53:01of coming out to Texas was like getting to the
- 53:04land man. COVID woke us up. in New York City
- 53:08and I was like, hey man, you don't know anything
- 53:11about anything growing or anything. So go to
- 53:14Texas, start stand -up, start your career in
- 53:18arts. Now I'm back into everything that I went
- 53:21to school for. Yeah. Would you say that you have
- 53:24a love for comedy or is it just like, you know,
- 53:27this is fun? See, the more I've been learning
- 53:32about it, the more I'm admiring and I'm loving
- 53:35it. the process, it's like, I didn't start it
- 53:41as like, Oh, I love standup comedy. I'm going
- 53:44to go learn it. No, it was like, Hey, standup
- 53:47comedy is your way back to stage and your it's
- 53:52your tool for you to whatever, you know, things
- 53:57that you have learned in your life. You want
- 54:00to transfer this material to the next generation.
- 54:04That's a good way. Stand up. And I, you know,
- 54:09for me growing up, George Carlin was the inspiration
- 54:13for stand up. Like it was like, the first time
- 54:18I saw George Carlin, I'm like, that is amazing.
- 54:21Right. Yeah. And if a person can do that, he
- 54:25kind of like changed my perspective. That's when
- 54:27I came to America and when I saw him, it's only
- 54:30after he had died, I found out about him and
- 54:33I went in and, you know, looked into a little
- 54:37bit of his comedy, but I never wanted to be a
- 54:40stand -up comedian. No, but now the more I learn
- 54:45about it, the more I'm into it, the more I go
- 54:48on shows, the more I see my friends who are like
- 54:52stand -up comics that are like doing like from
- 54:55one step to another when they're like, oh, he
- 54:58was doing this bit six months earlier and now
- 55:00look, this bit has come out this way. That admiration
- 55:03is like, the love is just growing. It's like,
- 55:07oh man, I love it now. And now it's more like,
- 55:12I want to be on stage. I want to transfer. I
- 55:15want to talk about it. And now, you know, I've
- 55:18been doing shows here and there. So it's like,
- 55:21hey, you know, it's coming along. It's like,
- 55:24oh, I can go talk about, you know, how, you know,
- 55:28New York and... North and South, the differences
- 55:33between that I've been finding out, I can go
- 55:35talk about it and have fun about it. And that's
- 55:39kind of like, oh, let's talk about some things
- 55:42that we don't really talk about in real life.
- 55:45Let's talk about it on stage and see how that.
- 55:50And also sobriety, all that. staying present
- 56:00and being a servant to the muse is like whatever
- 56:04universe is going to give you in the moment,
- 56:08just have that and you know, live in that. So
- 56:13we had the other day, one of the cameras kind
- 56:19of stopped working and I was like, Hey, that's
- 56:23okay. The universe took me from here. to my friend's
- 56:28house and we were able to record something over
- 56:31there. Yeah. And that recording had been delayed
- 56:35for weeks. Look at that. And I'm like, see, that's
- 56:39how... This is how it goes, man. You gotta like
- 56:43let the flow take over. And once it takes over,
- 56:48it's like... So now the challenge is how to keep
- 56:53in the flow and trust the flow. Yeah. and not
- 56:57be that, oh, I need to control this. I need to
- 56:59control that. I need to do this open mic. I need
- 57:02to go do that. I need this much stage time. I
- 57:05need that much stage time. And also management
- 57:08of attention, man. That's another thing I'm been
- 57:11working on is like when you do get attention.
- 57:16The last time I was on Kill Tony, man, I got
- 57:18so much attention, like viral clips. People were
- 57:22sending me viral clips. I'm like, People were
- 57:26cutting clips post. I'm like, okay. I stopped
- 57:30for like six months. I didn't sign up. I'm like,
- 57:33you need to manage this attention. Cause there's
- 57:35a lot of comics that you see get attention and
- 57:39then you don't hear from them. So that attention
- 57:45management is something that I was kind of was
- 57:47like, okay, you need to be very careful with.
- 57:51Cause there's an energy. So as an actor. Uh,
- 57:57when you do go up on stage, there's a lot of
- 58:01energy that you transfer. Yeah. And all that
- 58:05transfer of energy depletes your energy. This
- 58:10is very true. Yes. So that how to manage that
- 58:15is the thing that I'm like very concentrated
- 58:19on. That's why I've been doing a lot of archery,
- 58:22hikes, spending time in nature. Oh, hell yeah.
- 58:26Just, you know, sitting, looking at the water
- 58:29and forcing myself to be like, hey, stop that
- 58:33crazy New Yorker. Go, go, go. Why aren't you
- 58:35making money? Why aren't you doing this? Why
- 58:37aren't you doing that? Yeah, you're trying to
- 58:38slow down a little bit. Yeah. And when you slow
- 58:41down, you listen to what the muse has to say.
- 58:44Oh, yeah. What are your goals for comedy? Like,
- 58:48do you have any or? So, for comedy, As of right
- 58:51now, this is my fourth year and I kind of like
- 58:54was treating it as a college program. So like
- 58:57give four years. Yeah. So first year and this
- 59:03is fourth year and now, um, you know, start doing
- 59:06shows and stand up filmmaking, all this in hand.
- 59:15It's all so. When you were asking me, do I have
- 59:19like, when I see a future plan for comedy, this
- 59:23is something that I was talking about before
- 59:26too is like, I've given up on like what the future
- 59:31is going to hold or what's going to, let me do
- 59:35this today. And I'm bringing my tool. I'm trained
- 59:40in film, television, theater. I'm training. I'm
- 59:45bringing my tool in the present fully. Let the
- 59:48universe use me how it wants to use me in that
- 59:53day. So from there, there will be something coming
- 59:58out of it. But what I do want eventually to have
- 1:00:03is a comedy cowboys is my channel on YouTube.
- 1:00:09Oh, yeah. So Comedy Cowboys has been the podcast
- 1:00:13and now it's turned into a production, Comedy
- 1:00:17Cowboys Productions. So, which the idea is we
- 1:00:23did a live show as well. People who had been
- 1:00:25on the podcast, we did a showcase last year.
- 1:00:30And so these are the things like, okay, I could
- 1:00:34build this up slowly, slowly, slowly. Don't rush
- 1:00:37it. Don't force it. Because there have been times
- 1:00:41that I tried to force the podcast. They've been
- 1:00:44tried to force the show. It doesn't work. It
- 1:00:48creates a huge mess. So I'm like in the flow
- 1:00:51of like, okay, when it's going to happen. But
- 1:00:54every day you take a step towards it. Like, okay,
- 1:00:57what can I do for my show today? Oh, I can do,
- 1:01:00I've started doing these a day in the life of
- 1:01:04little programs. giving comedians, my friends
- 1:01:09highlights like, Hey, day in the life of Blazing
- 1:01:12Nana, day in the life of Nick Devlin, Tommy Tickles
- 1:01:17and see, you know, so that's kind of like my
- 1:01:19filmmakers, um, um, exercise as well. So getting
- 1:01:26that production house and also having comedy
- 1:01:30cowboys as a live show that we already have done.
- 1:01:35As like a recurring one. Yeah, as a recurring
- 1:01:38one. Man, that sounds fantastic. Yeah, but it's
- 1:01:40gonna be, it's gonna take its time, so no rush.
- 1:01:43Yeah, yeah. Every seed takes a minute to grow,
- 1:01:46I guess, right? Well, dude, thank you so much,
- 1:01:50man, for coming on. I appreciate it, man. Thank
- 1:01:51you so much. And thank you for your patience.
- 1:01:54Oh, of course. You know, like having to deal
- 1:01:55with my craziness, you know. Man, I'm telling
- 1:01:57you, staying in the present, whatever the universe
- 1:02:02brings, whatever. You know, we have days. That's
- 1:02:07what's up, my dude. That's what's up. Hey, thank
- 1:02:08you, Solomon. Appreciate you, man. Thank you
- 1:02:10so much for coming on. Thank you. Thank you.
- 1:02:11Thank you, of course. My pleasure. And that's
- 1:02:15it, man. That's a wrap. Thank you. All right,
- 1:02:19buddy. Hell yeah.