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Chuck & Buck 2-19 Hour 2: Headlines, Dan Wilson and a catcher conversation. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: And that was a juicy rebound, good opportune. Let's see
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Speaker 1: if me these recounts become a sort what comes out
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Speaker 1: to Raymond? That's the stadt persuaden. Where's Raymond twent of
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Speaker 1: acrost stop.
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Speaker 2: Now, Twinn Hughes, we played three and a half minutes
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Speaker 2: and over time your sisto pistol.
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Speaker 1: When he's overs in the United States. That thanks lak
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Speaker 1: Ye in the semis. Never a doubt both America and Canada.
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Speaker 2: Who yeah, ah, that would have squashed the old US
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Speaker 2: Canada rematch.
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Speaker 1: That would have nipped it right in the bud.
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Speaker 3: You know, everybody was thinking, I mean not only fans,
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Speaker 3: but even you have to think the players to some
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Speaker 3: degree thinking about that.
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Speaker 2: Even Sweden was thinking it, Oh man, this is gonna
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Speaker 2: wreck TV ratings.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. They were hoping to wreck TV ratings.
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Speaker 1: Almost did.
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Speaker 2: NBC there on the call of the overtime winner from
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Speaker 2: Quinn Hughes, and the US team does defeat Sweden in
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Speaker 2: overtime to advance to the semifinals. They're still going to
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Speaker 2: the semifinals. They're not quite to the finals with that
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Speaker 2: show victory. Same thing with Canada. They won and overtime
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Speaker 2: as well, and that's where our headlines will start this seven.
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Speaker 1: O'clock hour live here from Peoria.
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Speaker 2: Mariner spring training coverage on Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 2: three KJRFM with your friends Bucky Jacobson, Chuck Powell and
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Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan with you and so US will take on
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Speaker 2: Slovakia Friday at noon. Canada, they will take on Finland
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Speaker 2: Friday at seven.
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Speaker 1: Forty a m.
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Speaker 2: And then if they win, the winners of those two
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Speaker 2: matches will advance to the gold medal around where the
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Speaker 2: women's match has already landed. So today at ten to ten,
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Speaker 2: it will be US versus Canada. So the ladies did
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Speaker 2: their job. They got to the gold medal match, and
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Speaker 2: so we will settle the score with Canada.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and your bacon. You're weird bacon Pom waked up.
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Speaker 3: But that's not change it whatever, Joe, dear Tay, Okay,
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Speaker 3: dress it up up.
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Speaker 1: Their dirt gravy goes on Turkey not French fries.
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Speaker 4: We disagree.
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Speaker 1: It's really.
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Speaker 4: Oh come on, guys, are you America? I mean that's true, yeah,
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Speaker 4: but also saved me some Uh, so yes.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna settle a score another score with
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Speaker 2: our neighbors to the north, and boy do you have
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Speaker 2: it coming.
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Speaker 1: So that's your Olympics.
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Speaker 2: Well else we got going on in our headlines college basketball.
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Speaker 2: Huge blow to the college basketball game, not just to
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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, but National Player of the Year candidate JT.
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Speaker 2: Toppin You might have seen him blow out his knee
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Speaker 2: in a game earlier this week. He's out for the season.
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Speaker 2: Of course, Texteck still pretty good team, but I would
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Speaker 2: think any hope of a national championship just went away.
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Speaker 2: So great, not good for the sport to lose one
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Speaker 2: of its best players at this stage in the process
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Speaker 2: or at any time. Alabama and Arkansas might have played
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Speaker 2: the game of the year last night out of the
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Speaker 2: SEC one seventeen to one fifteen and double overtime. Both
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Speaker 2: those teams are ranked and likely headed for the NCAA
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Speaker 2: Tournament here in Seattle or there in Seattle, as we're
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Speaker 2: here in Peoria. Thomas Hammock, the new running back coach
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Speaker 2: for the Seattle Seahawks, the former Northern Illinois head coach.
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Speaker 2: If you remember, you probably knew him for two things.
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Speaker 2: Number one beating Notre Dame the year they went to
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Speaker 2: the National championship game at Notre Dame. And the other
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Speaker 2: thing is that he was asked once by a reporter
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Speaker 2: about having to take a quick bathroom break on the
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Speaker 2: field before coming back and winning a huge game, and
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Speaker 2: he said, quote, probably the best dump of my career
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Speaker 2: end quote.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember that?
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Speaker 3: Yes, he's very well, there's times when they're better than others.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's true. Yeah, Oh, no doubt.
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Speaker 3: Then not all dumps are greedy.
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Speaker 1: There is no doubt about that.
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Speaker 2: The bigger news was the Seahawks sale, or the announcement
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Speaker 2: that the Seahawks are up for sale, So which billionaires
4:42
Speaker 2: are going to line up to try and buy our
4:45
Speaker 2: beloved Seattle Seahawks.
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Speaker 1: We actually are gonna have Hu Millin on our.
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Speaker 2: Set here today in Peoria, so we're certainly gonna pin
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Speaker 2: our QB one down to talk about that and a
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Speaker 2: couple of other things that our Seahawks related.
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Speaker 1: So we look forward to it.
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Speaker 2: But of course, our primary the objective here is to
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Speaker 2: cover Mariners spring training. Today is picture day, just the
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Speaker 2: wrong day if you're a backup catcher to have shown
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Speaker 2: up at the park with a ZiT terrible.
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Speaker 1: Just the timing of it is horrible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be bad if you wake up with
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Speaker 3: a big one or a smack dab on your nose.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that it would be unfortunate. Most of
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Speaker 3: these guys, I think are somewhat beyond that point. Not
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Speaker 3: all of them, though. We got some children up in
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Speaker 3: this piece.
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Speaker 1: That's true.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, grow up. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Cole Young can't even grow a mustache. I promise you
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Speaker 2: he can still grow az it, yeah, guaranteed. Meanwhile, speaking
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Speaker 2: of backup catchers, yesterday the Mariners announced that they have
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Speaker 2: re signed Mitch Garver to a minor league deal. So
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Speaker 2: we have not seen Mitch Garver here today, but yes,
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Speaker 2: he's still in the picture for backup catcher. I guess
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Speaker 2: he exhausted all avenues to try to find a big
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Speaker 2: league contract out there. And so Mitch Garver is back
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Speaker 2: in the fold and might very well win the backup job.
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Speaker 2: Is familiarity with the players. They do seem to like him,
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Speaker 2: and so we'll see. Andrew Kissner was signed in the
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Speaker 2: off season to be Col's backup. But there's a little competition.
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Speaker 2: Oh you got to love that competition. And Mitch Garver
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Speaker 2: is going to be a part of it. I know
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Speaker 2: you're happy.
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Speaker 3: Haven't been happier about anything in my life? Yeah, really
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Speaker 3: pumped about that.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought I was over that whole experiment.
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Speaker 3: Never, Oh my god, it's like he's stocking me. Can
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Speaker 3: I put a restraining order on him? Is it possible
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Speaker 3: to keep him five hundred feet away from my favorite team?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 3: Apparently it's not, because I mean, I mean, he's not
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Speaker 3: going to be thrust into any big role. Obviously we
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Speaker 3: know that as far as the you know dh Roll
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Speaker 3: and what he failed miserably at the last couple of years.
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Speaker 3: But last year he was even just solely a backup guy,
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Speaker 3: and he had a few ox here and there. It
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Speaker 3: just is so hard for me to watch the approach,
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Speaker 3: just so hard for me to watch the way in
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Speaker 3: which he goes about it. I think that in the
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Speaker 3: clubhouse he's very well liked and respected.
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Speaker 1: I think that when he.
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Speaker 3: Does give calib breather, I think the pitchers don't mind
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Speaker 3: throwing to him. So, I mean, there's something there beyond
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Speaker 3: just the things that I don't like, and I recognize that.
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Speaker 3: But the thing that I don't like is so strong, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that it just kind of outweighs the things that he
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Speaker 3: brings to the table. I think he's probably a really
7:28
Speaker 3: good dude. Well, I'm probably a good dude in the clubhouse,
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Speaker 3: but I can't stand watching him anymore.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably no reason to slap a restraining order on
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Speaker 2: him or throw it his way, because he'll probably take
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Speaker 2: it for a strike. All right, coming up next, And
7:41
Speaker 2: I know we're breaking a little bit early to breaking
7:43
Speaker 2: up the clock. We normally don't do this out of headlines,
7:46
Speaker 2: but we're doing it for a very good reason. The
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Speaker 2: man himself, the manager of your Seattle Mariners, Dan Wilson,
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Speaker 2: is expected to join us right here at our set
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Speaker 1: Yes it did.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big fan of Delta as well. I mean,
8:27
Speaker 3: you got upgraded to the comfort class and I did not,
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Speaker 3: and yet I was still was quite comfortable. You don't
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Speaker 3: even have to be in comfort or first class and
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Speaker 3: you can be comfortable.
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Speaker 2: I thought I wasn't sure. There was some confusion. I
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Speaker 2: thought maybe I was heading to first class. There's a
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Speaker 2: big difference in comfort class and first class.
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Speaker 1: Oh really, Yeah, I got a little more leg room.
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Speaker 1: That's about it. Yeah, that's about it. So anyway, good
8:51
Speaker 1: morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Here we are at our set, day number four of
8:55
Speaker 2: our five days covering Mariners spring training for you and
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Speaker 2: the man himself. Wilson expected to join us here any
9:03
Speaker 2: moment now at ours set. We cleared the runway for
9:06
Speaker 2: him to land, and so we'll be chatting with him,
9:09
Speaker 2: I'm sure momentarily here as the place is now going
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Speaker 2: from picture day into practice. We actually have some guys
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Speaker 2: doing some baseball activities right now as the pictures are
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Speaker 2: wrapping up.
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Speaker 1: You know, Dan, you know, probably making sure shres hair
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Speaker 1: is perfect for picture day. Yeah, very vain that Dan Wilson.
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Speaker 1: He probably thinks the song is about him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he vote most certainly does he most certainly does.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if there's one thing I know about Dan,
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Speaker 3: he is very concerned about his looks. So picture day,
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Speaker 3: probably real nervous. He's probably real nervous, like how do
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Speaker 3: I look? Hey, can you get my good side? A
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Speaker 3: lot of that out of Dan Wilson here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean he's got a lot of decisions
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Speaker 2: to make too, obviously coming up on his plate, you know,
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Speaker 2: not just decisions to make roster wise, but also he
10:02
Speaker 2: has some decisions to make on how I can't wait
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Speaker 2: to ask him about the strategy for the Challenge system
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Speaker 2: and how he's going to let players operate with all
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Speaker 2: of that. So always Baseball adjust things and we really
10:17
Speaker 2: don't know how they're going to play out.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of fun, Like even the pitchclock. I wasn't
10:21
Speaker 1: sure how the pitch clock was going.
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Speaker 2: To affect the game and how pitchers went about it,
10:29
Speaker 2: or how managers went about it with their and and
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Speaker 2: it really went off seamlessly. I'm not so sure what
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Speaker 2: this Challenge system has in store for us all, but
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Speaker 2: it's one of the things, one of the many things
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Speaker 2: we're gonna sit and chat with with Dan Wilson here
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Speaker 2: today here live from Spring training.
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Speaker 1: And look who it is.
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Speaker 2: It's a catching legend and now manager of your Seattle Mariners.
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Speaker 2: Dan Wilson now joins us right here in Peoria. Good
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Speaker 2: morning to you, sir.
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Speaker 1: Morning guys.
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Speaker 2: How are you Are you running from another meeting? You're
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Speaker 2: having a lot of meetings here, Dan Wilson.
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Speaker 1: It's that time of year.
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Speaker 3: If, as you know, I was just throwing you under
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Speaker 3: the bus, I said it was because the picture day
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Speaker 3: you were.
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Speaker 1: Completely off the air. So we apologize to our listeners.
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Speaker 2: We apologize to Dan Wilson, who has joined us here
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Speaker 2: at our set. You missed the great Bucky joke about
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Speaker 2: how Dan's was a little bit late because he was
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Speaker 2: worried about his hair.
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Speaker 1: It was a fantastic comedy exchange between the two of you,
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Speaker 1: really was it really was?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I can make fun of people that
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Speaker 3: look better than me because it's making fun of myself.
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Speaker 1: And you fit the bill there, skip, You fit the bill?
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's get into some baseball stuff. We were talking
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Speaker 2: on your way over about the Challenge system and that's
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Speaker 2: like first and foremost on my mind.
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Speaker 1: How are you going to utilize it this year?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, definitely a different twist of the season,
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Speaker 5: so to speak. You know, but in some ways, a
11:56
Speaker 5: lot of guys, especially the younger ones that have come
11:58
Speaker 5: up through the minor leagues, have seen it in triple A,
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Speaker 5: so not totally unfamiliar. We had, uh, you know, a
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Speaker 5: run with it last spring training, so our guys were
12:07
Speaker 5: able to get some experience with it too. So it's
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Speaker 5: it's something that uh, you know, we will talk about
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Speaker 5: here as games start tomorrow, you know, getting an idea
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Speaker 5: of how we want to approach it as a team
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Speaker 5: and what we want to uh, you know, what we
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Speaker 5: want to do in.
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Speaker 1: Terms of challenges.
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Speaker 5: You get two challenges, and we we've learned over the
12:26
Speaker 5: course of a couple of you know, you know, conversations
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Speaker 5: we've had about it. We've we've sort of garnered some
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Speaker 5: of the information around it. And and you guys would
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Speaker 5: be surprised, of course if the catchers are the best
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Speaker 5: at it, how about that. So but uh, you know,
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Speaker 5: we'll kind of see how it all shakes out here
12:46
Speaker 5: in spring training and and uh as we get into
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Speaker 5: games and we kind of see how it works and
12:50
Speaker 5: see how it, uh you know, works with the flow
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Speaker 5: of the game and whatnot, then we'll begin to develop
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Speaker 5: some strategy around it.
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Speaker 3: I would imagine, yeah, you just, hey, Cal, one more thing,
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Speaker 3: by the way, you're now in charge of that too.
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Speaker 3: But then again, I mean he's going to be the
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Speaker 3: one that's gonna be the best back there with it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess speaking of Cal, with all of
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Speaker 3: the things that that guy does, I mean last year historic.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll die on the hill that he's the MVP.
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Speaker 1: But it is what it is.
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Speaker 3: A time turn the page and go go out there
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Speaker 3: and do it again. But I mean, what is it
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Speaker 3: about this guy? Because beyond just his baseball stuff, the
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Speaker 3: between the years thing and the fact that he's a leader,
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Speaker 3: and I mean, it's pretty pretty amazing. And I'm sure
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Speaker 3: you're proud of him because he is a catcher. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean it is pretty phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, seeing him play on a daily basis,
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Speaker 5: seeing what he did last year, pretty phenomenal work. And
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Speaker 5: as I've said before, to do what he does defensively,
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Speaker 5: and then to stack on top of that, you know,
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Speaker 5: all the things he did for us offensively. It's an
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Speaker 5: incredible season and I agree as an MVP season.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think again, as.
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Speaker 5: We look forward to what's ahead of us this year,
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Speaker 5: a great season, and and you speak about the leadership
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Speaker 5: that's going to play large as we go forward here
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Speaker 5: and and he has so much respect throughout the game,
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Speaker 5: obviously in our clubhouse. And and he is a guy
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Speaker 5: that all of that, you know, all that desire, all
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Speaker 5: the leadership that he has really comes out of this,
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Speaker 5: you know, strong intensity to win inside of him. And
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Speaker 5: and we've got a lot of guys in that clubhouse
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Speaker 5: that want to win, and that's what you need. And
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Speaker 5: and as we get down here to spring training now,
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Speaker 5: our focus turns to preparation and getting ready for the
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Speaker 5: season that's ahead of us. And and you know, I
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Speaker 5: think it's really important for us to understand that's what
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Speaker 5: we need to be focused on. That's what we can
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Speaker 5: control at this moment is our preparation. And and uh,
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Speaker 5: you know, once we get to the season March twenty six,
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Speaker 5: we'll be ready to roll.
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Speaker 2: Dan Wilson is whether it's right here on Chuck and
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Speaker 2: Buck as we talk from spring training. Your first year,
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Speaker 2: it was your first year as a man manager, first
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Speaker 2: full season as a manager.
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Speaker 1: What about the year kind of caught you off guard?
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Speaker 2: That you feel like, man, you know, I got better
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Speaker 2: by the end of the season, and I'm gonna keep
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Speaker 2: getting better at this as I now get more comfortable
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Speaker 2: in the roles.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think, Uh, I get asked this
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Speaker 5: a lot, and and my answer really is, you know,
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Speaker 5: even from when I took over in August of the
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Speaker 5: year before.
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Speaker 1: And never having been in this role before, you.
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Speaker 5: Just realize how quickly, very quickly, how important it is
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Speaker 5: to have tremendous people around you and what a group
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Speaker 5: effort this really is. And you know, I can't be
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Speaker 5: more thankful for the staff that that we have at
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Speaker 5: the big league level. Uh, it's a tremendous organization in
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Speaker 5: terms of the staff that it that it has and
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Speaker 5: the staff that you know, continues to develop and do
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Speaker 5: such a great job at what they do, whether it's
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Speaker 5: on the pitching side, whether it's on the hitting side. Defensively,
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Speaker 5: We've got so much experience and and they've had a
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Speaker 5: ton of success and doing what they've done. So it's
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Speaker 5: an incredible staff. You know, you take it on into
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Speaker 5: the minor leagues. And when we got caught off, we
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Speaker 5: were talking about you know, being aligned organizationally. I think
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Speaker 5: that's very important and we have a chance to do
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Speaker 5: that down here in spring training with some of the
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Speaker 5: minor league staff as well, who are tremendous people and
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Speaker 5: tremendous baseball minds also, And so it takes all of that.
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Speaker 1: It takes a ton of work.
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Speaker 5: I give Jerry and Justin a ton of credit to
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Speaker 5: for for putting this all together and as well as
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Speaker 5: an incredible roster. And so you know, you put all
16:31
Speaker 5: these things together and you realize it takes a lot
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Speaker 5: of people to get it right.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just grateful for the people that
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Speaker 1: we have around us, Dan.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going to stick to that. I mean,
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Speaker 3: we're going to get to a bunch of topics of
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Speaker 3: the club that you actually manage and the individuals and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: But I actually did want to ask one more along
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Speaker 3: the lines of just you and kind of your managing style, right,
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Speaker 3: I mean, when you end up getting the job to me,
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking perfect blend of you know, you've been around
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Speaker 3: the game since you were done playing, and you've understood
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Speaker 3: and picked up with all of the new you know,
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Speaker 3: metrics and all of the different stuff that has changed
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Speaker 3: since back in the aughts when you and I were
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Speaker 3: playing and yet so you kind of have the understanding
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Speaker 3: of the old school the understanding of the new school,
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Speaker 3: and we've always talked about the best way is to
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Speaker 3: kind of figure out a way to blend them. Would
17:21
Speaker 3: you say that that is the I don't know them
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Speaker 3: or the philosophy that you bring to the table, because
17:27
Speaker 3: you know, there's obvious things that back when you were playing,
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Speaker 3: you just didn't take a starting picture out when they're
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Speaker 3: in the fifth inning, You're like, nope, they can go more,
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Speaker 3: We'll just keep going. And yet you you know, data
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Speaker 3: gives you different information. So what is your philosophy as
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Speaker 3: far as I go, Yeah, great question.
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Speaker 5: And I think you know baseball, as you know, as
17:45
Speaker 5: a game of adjustments, and so you're always adjusting, uh,
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Speaker 5: you know, one way or the other. I think, you know,
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Speaker 5: I think this is at the end of the day,
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Speaker 5: as a people business and and uh, it comes down
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Speaker 5: to people. And so when it is with people, there's
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Speaker 5: a lot of feel involved in the there's a lot
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Speaker 5: of things that you have to do in terms of that.
18:03
Speaker 5: But I do also think that in the game today
18:06
Speaker 5: there is information and that information can inform decisions, you know,
18:10
Speaker 5: not only about what's happening in a game, but maybe
18:12
Speaker 5: someone's swing or someone's delivery on the mound, or their
18:15
Speaker 5: defensive stance.
18:16
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, there is information that can help. So
18:19
Speaker 1: you do have to blend the two. And I think you're.
18:21
Speaker 5: Absolutely right, and you know, what that balance looks like
18:25
Speaker 5: can be completely different on a completely different situation.
18:28
Speaker 1: So you just have to weigh everything, you take it
18:30
Speaker 1: all in.
18:30
Speaker 5: But I do think blending the two is important in
18:33
Speaker 5: today's game, and you know, these players are smart and
18:37
Speaker 5: they are incredibly dialed into a lot of that information,
18:40
Speaker 5: So you can't just not speak it, and so you've
18:44
Speaker 5: got to understand it.
18:45
Speaker 1: You've got to know it.
18:46
Speaker 5: But you also have to understand at the end of
18:48
Speaker 5: the day, as we've said, and we've talked about, like,
18:49
Speaker 5: these are people and there's emotions involved and you've got
18:52
Speaker 5: to have a handle on that as well, and so
18:54
Speaker 5: being able to balance both of them is important.
18:56
Speaker 2: Dan Wilson with us right here on Chuck and Buck
18:59
Speaker 2: is our coverage Spring training continues. We were talking about
19:02
Speaker 2: this earlier in the show, and it was really the
19:03
Speaker 2: first time we really sunk our teeth into it as.
19:05
Speaker 1: Talk show hosts.
19:06
Speaker 2: Your outfield situation, I would imagine Julio's locked in Penn
19:10
Speaker 2: and center field. That's the obvious thing. But how does
19:14
Speaker 2: the rest of this work? May have a couple of
19:16
Speaker 2: platoons between the outfield positions and the DH. Is a
19:19
Speaker 2: rose arena gonna spend some DH. How are you going
19:22
Speaker 2: to align it?
19:22
Speaker 1: Do you think? Yeah? I mean I think in some
19:24
Speaker 1: ways this is this is a luxury to have.
19:27
Speaker 5: We've got a lot of great, you know, players out
19:30
Speaker 5: in the outfield that that can play outfield, that can
19:32
Speaker 5: swing the bat, that can DH for you. So it's
19:36
Speaker 5: you know, it's gonna be a mix and match as
19:38
Speaker 5: we go. You know, you look at can Zone, you
19:42
Speaker 5: look at Roth Sneyder, who we picked up, who's a
19:44
Speaker 5: tremendous bat. Luke Raally coming back from from some injuries
19:47
Speaker 5: and he's ready to go. Vic Roebliss also coming back
19:51
Speaker 5: from his injuries. He's ready to go. Randy and corson
19:53
Speaker 5: left that has been such a solid anchor for us
19:56
Speaker 5: out there. You know, all these guys are most of
19:59
Speaker 5: the those guys, a big chunk of them are going
20:01
Speaker 5: to the WBC, So you know they're they're kind of
20:04
Speaker 5: ramping up here early on. So that they're ready to
20:06
Speaker 5: go a little bit earlier than everybody else. So but
20:09
Speaker 5: it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be a mix
20:12
Speaker 5: and match as we look at that situation going forward.
20:15
Speaker 5: And and uh but uh, I think that the good
20:17
Speaker 5: news is that you can't go wrong either way. I mean,
20:20
Speaker 5: it's just left handed bats, right handed to bats, you know,
20:24
Speaker 5: and guys that can play this game know how to hit.
20:27
Speaker 1: Uh.
20:27
Speaker 5: So we're in a good spot, I think in terms
20:29
Speaker 5: of the outfield, and and we'll just kind of see
20:31
Speaker 5: how it goes as as we get into it.
20:33
Speaker 3: A full season of Josh Naylor, I think everybody in
20:35
Speaker 3: Seattle's looking forward to that.
20:36
Speaker 1: You got to be looking forward to that.
20:38
Speaker 3: The addition of Brendan Donovan, I think in us just
20:41
Speaker 3: talking to him, getting to know him a little bit,
20:43
Speaker 3: seems like he kind of is another guy fits that
20:45
Speaker 3: gritty ballplayer mold cayl Rawly obviously there. I mean you
20:49
Speaker 3: you have a handful of guys now that if that's
20:53
Speaker 3: the word bubble above their head, it's grit and the
20:55
Speaker 3: way they play. Is this the grittiest team that you
20:58
Speaker 3: can remember? And Mariner stry for a while, Yeah, I
21:01
Speaker 3: mean I think You're right, this is this is a team.
21:03
Speaker 3: And you got to love the term gamer and and
21:06
Speaker 3: everybody kind of understands what that means. And and we
21:08
Speaker 3: have some gamers on this club, no question.
21:10
Speaker 5: And uh uh you got to love to see that
21:13
Speaker 5: a lot of grit and uh, you know, I think
21:16
Speaker 5: that that looms very large when you when you run
21:18
Speaker 5: into tough stretches in the season, you've got to be
21:20
Speaker 5: able to reach down and and push through those stretches.
21:22
Speaker 5: And you know, I think that's what some of these
21:25
Speaker 5: guys will bring. And and uh, you know, getting Brendan Donovan, uh,
21:29
Speaker 5: you know, kind of completes that lineup. Obviously, losing Polo
21:32
Speaker 5: was a tough was a tough blow. Uh, but uh,
21:35
Speaker 5: you know, being able to pick up uh you know
21:37
Speaker 5: Brendan Donovan, Rob Refsnyder as well, you know, a veteran
21:40
Speaker 5: presence and then a younger guy.
21:42
Speaker 2: Uh.
21:42
Speaker 5: Both of those guys very gritty and and ready to play.
21:45
Speaker 5: So uh, I think we're in a great spot. I
21:48
Speaker 5: think this this roster really has come together very well.
21:52
Speaker 5: Again cross credit to Jerry and Justin for doing such
21:54
Speaker 5: a great job. But at the end of the day,
21:56
Speaker 5: I really think it's about the team dynamic and and
21:58
Speaker 5: what these guys feel in the clubhouse together. Uh, And
22:01
Speaker 5: it's such a great nucleus of players, and getting these
22:04
Speaker 5: new guys in and and bringing them in the fold
22:07
Speaker 5: has been fairly seamless here so far. And those guys
22:10
Speaker 5: love playing together. They love you know, competing together and
22:13
Speaker 5: fighting together. And that's what takes in one hundred and
22:15
Speaker 5: sixty two game season.
22:16
Speaker 1: And I know they have their job and you have
22:18
Speaker 1: their your job.
22:20
Speaker 2: But obviously, you know, Jerry's got opinions on who should
22:23
Speaker 2: be playing and where, and Justin does as well. And
22:26
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've got an opinion on what kind of
22:28
Speaker 2: players you want on your roster. So how much of it,
22:30
Speaker 2: how much did you throw in? I need a guy
22:32
Speaker 2: like Donovan. I want those grit players because that kind
22:34
Speaker 2: of feels like the type of guy Dan Wilson.
22:36
Speaker 1: Would have wanted to play with. Yeah, I mean, you know,
22:38
Speaker 1: this is why we have meetings. Oh see, we got
22:43
Speaker 1: to come full circle here, right, It's not all about
22:45
Speaker 1: make up. Okay, No, No, I.
22:49
Speaker 5: Think you're you know, it's a it's a great point.
22:51
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think again, there's communication here. There's things
22:56
Speaker 5: that we talk about a lot, and you know, the
22:57
Speaker 5: off season we're able to do that and uh, you know,
23:01
Speaker 5: identify things that that we you know, we like to
23:03
Speaker 5: see in players. And again, Mariner has been able to
23:06
Speaker 5: go out and do that and execute on that. And
23:08
Speaker 5: you know, getting nails early, getting ref Snyder, in getting
23:13
Speaker 5: Brendan Donovan, in getting for Rare and in the bullpen,
23:16
Speaker 5: just huge acquisitions for us and and sets us up
23:19
Speaker 5: to a pretty good spot here going forward.
23:20
Speaker 2: Donovan, I mean, all the mock up lineups that everybody's
23:24
Speaker 2: making for you across the country has him leading off.
23:28
Speaker 1: And playing third base.
23:29
Speaker 2: Is that kind of where you are with it or uh,
23:33
Speaker 2: you know without I mean we got we're just getting
23:35
Speaker 2: started in the process of having camp battles.
23:38
Speaker 1: But a couple of these young kids gonna possibly shake
23:41
Speaker 1: things up down here. Yeah, I mean, we're looking at everything.
23:44
Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna limit ourselves to any one
23:45
Speaker 5: particular lineup at this moment. We're looking at a lot
23:48
Speaker 5: of different scenarios. We've got a lot of different pieces.
23:52
Speaker 5: I think that's one of the things that sets our
23:53
Speaker 5: team apart.
23:54
Speaker 1: We have some versatility, which is great.
23:57
Speaker 5: You know, I think a guy like Donovan can complete
23:59
Speaker 5: your lineup, no question about it. And where that is, well,
24:01
Speaker 5: we'll continue to look at throughout the spring. But we've
24:04
Speaker 5: got talented players up and down our lineup, and and uh,
24:08
Speaker 5: it's that's that's a real luxury to have and that's.
24:11
Speaker 1: The exciting part.
24:11
Speaker 5: And again with WBC on the horizon, things are a
24:15
Speaker 5: little bit wonky as as we go forward here in
24:17
Speaker 5: the first week or so. Uh, but uh, you know,
24:20
Speaker 5: I'm excited to actually to see those guys compete and
24:23
Speaker 5: play in the WBC. I think it'll be tremendous fun
24:26
Speaker 5: to watch those guys. And and back here in camp,
24:29
Speaker 5: there'll be a lot of spots, you know, where guys
24:31
Speaker 5: are going to be able to have some opportunities to
24:33
Speaker 5: show what they can do.
24:34
Speaker 1: And and that's going to be exciting.
24:35
Speaker 3: Also, what I mean, your main objective obviously is the
24:39
Speaker 3: guys that you're going to be breaking camp with at
24:41
Speaker 3: twenty six and yet yeah, there's some some stuff still
24:45
Speaker 3: in in flux when it comes to that, and and
24:48
Speaker 3: then beyond that, even got guys the Ryan Sloan's and
24:51
Speaker 3: Kate Anderson's guys that you you know, and you're getting
24:54
Speaker 3: to watch for the first time or or you know,
24:56
Speaker 3: a little bit more than than the first time. But
24:59
Speaker 3: I mean, how how hard is it for you to
25:00
Speaker 3: just be kind of focused on that when you're actually
25:02
Speaker 3: seeing even a larger picture your forty man roster and beyond.
25:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how much talent.
25:07
Speaker 5: There is there too, That's a great question, you know,
25:10
Speaker 5: and I think you know that's what another great part
25:13
Speaker 5: about spring training is you get it's kind of an
25:14
Speaker 5: organizational check and where you're at.
25:16
Speaker 1: And I'm here to say this is a healthy organization.
25:19
Speaker 5: And we do have some incredible talent in the minor leagues,
25:23
Speaker 5: guys that are knocking on the door and you know,
25:25
Speaker 5: just wanting those opportunities that WBC will afford some of
25:28
Speaker 5: those guys those opportunities in these games here at the
25:31
Speaker 5: major league level, which is great to see. But yes,
25:34
Speaker 5: we you know, again, putting rosters together, getting organizational.
25:39
Speaker 1: Depth is super important.
25:40
Speaker 5: You know, the twenty six guys that we go north
25:42
Speaker 5: with is never the twenty six guys that you end
25:45
Speaker 5: the season with. And in between there, uh, there are
25:47
Speaker 5: a lot of different moves and things that need to happen,
25:50
Speaker 5: and and so you need everybody, you need that that depth,
25:53
Speaker 5: and this is where you get a chance to see
25:56
Speaker 5: what that depth looks looks like, and I'm looking forward
25:58
Speaker 5: to seeing that out on the field.
26:00
Speaker 2: We'll close with this because you've brought it up now
26:02
Speaker 2: three times the WBC, and I wanted to bring that up.
26:05
Speaker 2: I mean, are you on the horn with DeRosa and
26:07
Speaker 2: all the other managers, like this is how you're going
26:10
Speaker 2: to use my players? And I don't want to hear
26:12
Speaker 2: any pushback.
26:13
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think there's there is a little
26:15
Speaker 5: bit of that, sure, you know, I think it's important.
26:17
Speaker 5: I think that's that's the number one concern of any
26:20
Speaker 5: manager that that you know, has players going to participate,
26:23
Speaker 5: you know, is health and staying injury free and and
26:26
Speaker 5: not pushing past the point of what they're ready for.
26:29
Speaker 5: Obviously we're going to do our best to prepare them
26:32
Speaker 5: to be ready, but it also is quite an honor
26:35
Speaker 5: to be able to participate in this and represent your
26:38
Speaker 5: own country and and and these games are you know,
26:41
Speaker 5: from what I understand, I've never experienced it myself, but
26:44
Speaker 5: this is playoff type atmosphere, and anytime you can get
26:48
Speaker 5: experience in that kind of a setting, I think as
26:50
Speaker 5: a really positive thing.
26:51
Speaker 1: So uh, I get like I said, before.
26:53
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to watching the games and seeing these
26:55
Speaker 5: guys compete, and we just hope they all come back
26:58
Speaker 5: and they're healthy and ready to go.
26:59
Speaker 2: I know, you got to it's a job and meetings
27:02
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff, but it's still got to
27:04
Speaker 2: be a lot of fun just to show up, play
27:07
Speaker 2: ball for an entire year, hang out with your good
27:09
Speaker 2: buddy Edgar.
27:10
Speaker 1: Martinez all year long.
27:11
Speaker 2: Jay Muner is still in the organization playing grab ass
27:14
Speaker 2: behind the behind the scenes. I mean, as much as
27:17
Speaker 2: it is just I'm the boss of things around here,
27:19
Speaker 2: it's still got to be just it's still got to
27:22
Speaker 2: tap into that. Dan Wilson, I want to play baseball
27:24
Speaker 2: for a living kid, right.
27:26
Speaker 1: No doubt. I mean this is a this is a
27:28
Speaker 1: kid's game. And yeah, we all have fun.
27:30
Speaker 5: And I always say that that's why you see grown
27:32
Speaker 5: men jumping around the field after they win the World Series,
27:35
Speaker 5: because that's what it feels like.
27:36
Speaker 1: It feels like you're twelve years old again.
27:37
Speaker 5: And and uh, that's what this game is all about,
27:40
Speaker 5: and it is fun and and having uh, clearly the
27:44
Speaker 5: guys that that I was here with as a player,
27:46
Speaker 5: having those guys around the organization's tremendous and Edgar, what
27:50
Speaker 5: he's done with the offense here has been unbelievable, and
27:54
Speaker 5: it's just a it is an honor, it's a privilege.
27:56
Speaker 5: I'm very grateful for this opportunity and and uh, but
28:00
Speaker 5: you know, we're about getting back to where we want
28:01
Speaker 5: to be and that starts down here.
28:03
Speaker 1: Well, I sure hope at the end of the year.
28:05
Speaker 1: I'm calling you world champ.
28:06
Speaker 2: Very the best of luck to you, Thank you, thank
28:09
Speaker 2: you very much, gentlemen, Thanks for your patience.
28:11
Speaker 1: Sorry to break the machine early.
28:13
Speaker 2: That's two years in a row. Wilson, Dan Wilson joining
28:17
Speaker 2: us right here on Chuck and Buck. We'll continue from
28:20
Speaker 2: Peoria and next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
28:31
Speaker 1: All right, Chuck a buck with you.
28:33
Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Appreciate Dan, We'll
28:36
Speaker 2: see if a busy man. They are having a lot
28:38
Speaker 2: of meetings and uh, and he had a race out
28:40
Speaker 2: of here when he was done, so we appreciate him
28:42
Speaker 2: him giving us some time about twenty minutes, twenty five
28:45
Speaker 2: minutes of his time on a busy Thursday morning, and
28:48
Speaker 2: then we had a little technical difficulty in there, and
28:50
Speaker 2: he was patient through it. He didn't once throw a
28:52
Speaker 2: punch at you or I no appreciate that. No, it
28:56
Speaker 2: wouldn't be Dan the Man's style.
28:58
Speaker 1: Yeah he did, god.
29:01
Speaker 5: That.
29:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he did kind of side like really, yeah,
29:06
Speaker 3: you guys.
29:06
Speaker 1: What kind of operation you two running around here? Well,
29:10
Speaker 1: that's the kind we do. Yeah, that's kind we do.
29:12
Speaker 3: We make fun of you about your makeup and you've
29:14
Speaker 3: shown up late, and then we lose Yeah, then we
29:18
Speaker 3: lose connection.
29:19
Speaker 2: So then he's like, we didn't even get to hear
29:22
Speaker 2: that funny exchange on the air that was outstanding, and
29:24
Speaker 2: we in the audience didn't even get to hear it. Yeah,
29:27
Speaker 2: damn it, damn it. But it seems like we're back online.
29:30
Speaker 2: I think the internet just went out around here because
29:32
Speaker 2: there was nothing else, uh that took place. But we
29:35
Speaker 2: move on from it, and certainly we hope we've got
29:38
Speaker 2: a strong signal again because coming up at the top
29:40
Speaker 2: of the hour, the Dumper himself will be joining us
29:43
Speaker 2: cal Raleigh right here in Peoria.
29:46
Speaker 1: So uh, yes, we've been.
29:47
Speaker 2: Kind of building up to the moment to talk to
29:50
Speaker 2: Seattle's new superstar, Cal Raleigh, and so that's coming up
29:54
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. So I think it
29:56
Speaker 2: seems weird to talk about anything but catchers to go
29:58
Speaker 2: from Dan Wilson, and then we have this bridge segment
30:02
Speaker 2: to talk about cal Raley. Once we got off the air,
30:05
Speaker 2: I just asked Dan one other thing, because I really
30:07
Speaker 2: did want to ask him.
30:08
Speaker 1: What the idea was.
30:10
Speaker 2: Obviously, it was supposed to be a little bit of
30:13
Speaker 2: a different catching scenario right this year, where we were
30:17
Speaker 2: going to go to a more traditional, just straight up
30:20
Speaker 2: backup catcher. I think that's what Andrew Kissner and some
30:23
Speaker 2: of the other guys are here for to compete for.
30:26
Speaker 2: But then the re signing of Mitch Garver yesterday to
30:29
Speaker 2: a minor league deal, and we know that he played
30:32
Speaker 2: a little bit more than your traditional backup catcher role,
30:35
Speaker 2: and then you happen to have the best catcher in
30:37
Speaker 2: the world in your organization who wants to catch every
30:40
Speaker 2: single day. So I just asked him off the air,
30:43
Speaker 2: what is the plan with how often cal will catch?
30:46
Speaker 2: Dan didn't commit anything. He said, I don't know. We'll
30:48
Speaker 2: see how the season goes and how he feels. But
30:51
Speaker 2: what did he catche hundred and twenty five games last year.
30:53
Speaker 2: That's probably a good ballpark for how many times he'll
30:56
Speaker 2: catch this year and the rest of the time he'll
30:58
Speaker 2: obviously DH.
31:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you want his bat in the lineup.
31:02
Speaker 3: I think that it feels it felt like towards the
31:05
Speaker 3: end of the year and in the playoffs, it felt like,
31:08
Speaker 3: I mean, cal it felt like it. He might have
31:11
Speaker 3: been getting a little bit tired, right, I mean, you
31:13
Speaker 3: have to protect a guy from himself to some extent.
31:15
Speaker 3: He's a young, strong dude, and he wants to go
31:19
Speaker 3: out there and play every day. He would like to
31:20
Speaker 3: catch every single game, so to. I think at this
31:23
Speaker 3: point in his career, when you're d hing him, that's
31:26
Speaker 3: his day off for him because he didn't have to
31:28
Speaker 3: go back and take foul tips and squat down and
31:31
Speaker 3: catch one hundred and fifty balls and all that kind
31:32
Speaker 3: of stuff.
31:33
Speaker 1: But I think that there's gonna have to be times.
31:36
Speaker 3: Hopefully they can play themselves into a position wins and
31:40
Speaker 3: losses and in the standings wise to where maybe coming
31:44
Speaker 3: down the stretch, you can offer him a couple more
31:47
Speaker 3: days off, like legitimate days off, like you just don't
31:51
Speaker 3: have to do anything except for maybe we use you
31:54
Speaker 3: to pinch hit if we need it.
31:55
Speaker 1: Even then, he's got to be ready.
31:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's you you just got I mean, he's
32:00
Speaker 3: gonna be ready every day if you get a day off.
32:01
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know what, I literally have caught
32:03
Speaker 3: for five straight games or seven straight games, and I've
32:06
Speaker 3: DHD every single game in and around that for the
32:09
Speaker 3: last three weeks. Then when I wasn't catching, to have
32:12
Speaker 3: a day where it's like, I'm not gonna take VP,
32:14
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take round balls, I'm not gonna take
32:16
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do anything except for.
32:17
Speaker 1: Get a little bit of treatment and relax.
32:19
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, seventh inning, you go down,
32:22
Speaker 3: take a couple of hacks off the tee in case
32:24
Speaker 3: you're gonna be called upon to come in there and
32:26
Speaker 3: jack one to win the ball game for your team
32:28
Speaker 3: or whatever. That's not a work day. That doesn't feel
32:32
Speaker 3: like a work day as far as your body's concerned.
32:34
Speaker 3: So to me, I would like to hopefully see where
32:37
Speaker 3: there's a way in which they can do that. But again,
32:39
Speaker 3: it's it's a catch twenty two because he doesn't He
32:41
Speaker 3: just flat out doesn't want to not be in the lineup.
32:43
Speaker 3: He wants to go out there and compete with his boys.
32:45
Speaker 3: At the same time, he's gonna have to realize, Yeah,
32:48
Speaker 3: but I want to be the best version of myself,
32:50
Speaker 3: as as good as I can possibly be at the
32:52
Speaker 3: end of catching an entire season and getting those DH reps.
32:55
Speaker 3: I want to be strong. I want to feel fresh,
32:58
Speaker 3: as fresh as I possibly can come till no doubt.
33:01
Speaker 2: And yet there's also the component of, hey, I realize
33:06
Speaker 2: that it's all about a championship and that's what we
33:08
Speaker 2: play for. But there's also an element of we would
33:12
Speaker 2: like to have the best catcher in baseball for a
33:15
Speaker 2: number of years. It's not just about twenty twenty six, like, who,
33:21
Speaker 2: how can we have cal Rally at his best in
33:23
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. I mean, he's signed to a pretty
33:25
Speaker 2: long term deal at this stage, and you are kind
33:29
Speaker 2: of protecting him for the long game as well as
33:32
Speaker 2: the short game as well. So if he sits a
33:35
Speaker 2: little bit more than what he feels he should sit
33:40
Speaker 2: or that fans feel he should sit, and I'm just
33:42
Speaker 2: talking about dching, I'm not talking about taking him out
33:44
Speaker 2: of the lineup. But if he's daching more than what
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Speaker 2: he feels, I don't need to DH today. I can
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Speaker 2: catch today. There's also an element of we're protecting you
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Speaker 2: also for the long term and not just for your
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Speaker 2: good for your long term career, but for our.
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Speaker 1: Long term plan. I mean we would, we would, We
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Speaker 1: will still.
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Speaker 2: Want Cal Rawley to be thirty five years old and
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Speaker 2: be a productive player, like said Salvador Perez Is and
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Speaker 2: and if we don't want to risk like.
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Speaker 1: Possibly burning out your knees, burning you out with too
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Speaker 1: much on the plate.
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Speaker 2: So I'm all for one hundred and twenty five games,
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Speaker 2: and I know Cal wants to catch one sixty two,
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Speaker 2: but I'm all for that number one twenty five two,
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Speaker 2: like two three full days off and then the rest
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Speaker 2: of the time you dh to me, that strikes a
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Speaker 2: really good balance of of this year and then years
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Speaker 2: to come as well.
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Speaker 3: The idea of keeping him, keeping him to where he's
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Speaker 3: he's capable of being a contributor on this team for
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Speaker 3: the long haul is obviously something you have to take
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Speaker 3: into account. It's just gonna be it's gonna be really
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Speaker 3: hard to do with a guy that has so much
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Speaker 3: to do between the years and the prep preparing his
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Speaker 3: his his pitchers, understanding the bullpen, understanding the position players,
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Speaker 3: the hitters that he's going to be going up against
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Speaker 3: He just wants to be in that right, He wants
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Speaker 3: to be in that entire thing. And yet you're right,
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Speaker 3: the idea of being able to not just say, wow,
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Speaker 3: we basically blew through that candle as a catcher in
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Speaker 3: as short a period of time as you possibly could.
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Speaker 3: But that's fine. He could be a first basement for
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Speaker 3: a little bit. Well, the second you start having to
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Speaker 3: go down that road, you go quickly to a first basement,
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Speaker 3: and then next thing you know, you're a dh and
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Speaker 3: next thing you know, you're done. Your body's not capable
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Speaker 3: of kind of doing it. There's no other position in
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Speaker 3: baseball that takes the beating. And so yeah, the idea
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Speaker 3: of trying to get him to understand what you can do,
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Speaker 3: what you can't do, and at times you just need
35:43
Speaker 3: to do what you should do, even though you could
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Speaker 3: do more like you could catch, but just just let
35:49
Speaker 3: us kind of let us kind of baby this thing
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Speaker 3: a little bit. Let's take care of this thing so
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Speaker 3: that you're in a better position at the end of
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Speaker 3: the year and for years to come. I think that's
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Speaker 3: definitely something in a conversation you want to have with him.
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Speaker 3: I just think, right now good luck getting that over
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Speaker 3: with him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he also leads the league and I don't
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Speaker 2: know why, and like foul balls hitting off of his
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Speaker 2: body parts, I mean, he just takes a beating, it
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Speaker 2: feels like to me more than any catcher every single
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Speaker 2: night that we play.
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Speaker 1: A game. And so, but there are examples.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Carlton Fisk was a big guy like Cal
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Speaker 2: and he caught almost every game and he played into
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Speaker 2: his forties. And Salvador Perez is a big guy like
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Speaker 2: col who's caught almost every game in his career. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's dhing a lot more now, but he's in his
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Speaker 2: mid thirties at least, and he's still a productive player.
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Speaker 2: So there are examples. And he does have that big frame,
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Speaker 2: so maybe he can weather more of the storms just
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Speaker 2: quickly in thirty seconds, you know, the backup catcher. The
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Speaker 2: idea that Kissner could be more of your classic backup catcher,
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Speaker 2: I think was the idea. But all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: Mitch Garver, you know, putting all of your you know,
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Speaker 2: pitch take aside.
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Speaker 1: With Mitch Garver.
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Speaker 2: I think him knowing the pitching staff suddenly has changed
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Speaker 2: things a little bit. As they signed him yesterday to
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Speaker 2: a minor league deal.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he he.
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Speaker 3: Brings more danger offensively than does oh for sure. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but I mean I mean does he because yeah, he's
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Speaker 3: capable when he swings the bat of being more dangerous
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Speaker 3: than Andrew Kisner is, but he likes to try to
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Speaker 3: walk and so yes, I don't know what the hell
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Speaker 3: they're thinking. I mean, it's one of those we didn't
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Speaker 3: use that that option, right, we denied the option that
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Speaker 3: created a free agency. He went out there obviously no
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Speaker 3: one was offering him a big league deal. He might
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Speaker 3: have said, Mariners, you were the first team that I
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Speaker 3: want to come back to on a minor league deal,
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Speaker 3: and they said, boom, here we go, let's do it.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know what they're thinking that. I thought
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Speaker 3: that experiment was over, but it is not.
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Speaker 4: It is not.
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Speaker 2: And we haven't seen him yet a camp didn't expect
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Speaker 2: to really today, but maybe we'll see him.
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Speaker 1: Be happy to know before the end of the week.
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Speaker 2: We're on a catcher's roll right now, so we might
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Speaker 2: as well talk to Cal Rawley. That is coming up
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