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3 Guys Before The Game - Ross Hodge HELLO (Episode 628) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Alrighty, showtime in the University City. This is three Guys
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  Speaker 1: Before the Game, episode number. What number is this? Like?
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  Speaker 1: Six hundred and five, two hundred and seven?
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  Speaker 2: This is a realman numeral number.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure actually six twenty eight. You can do
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  Speaker 1: the Roman numeral and we'll figure that out later on
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  Speaker 1: the title of the show, Ross Hodge, Hello, Why should
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  Speaker 1: do that loter than that? Right? The title of the
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  Speaker 1: show is Ross Hodge, Hello. He's in very good Mountaineer's
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  Speaker 1: new basketball coach, twenty fourth coach in school history. We'll
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  Speaker 1: Tutor's Biscuit spreads on staff. We'll break into Ross Hodge
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  Speaker 1: beyond numbers. All right, so the search is complete for WUVU,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of what we thought. It wasn't extremely long
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  Speaker 1: by any stretch. WVU has named Ross Hodge as the
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  Speaker 1: school's new head basketball coach, effective pending a loss. So
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  Speaker 1: he's got to have his season come to an end
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  Speaker 1: at North Texas before you have the pomp and circumstance
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  Speaker 1: of a press conference, which will take place at some
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  Speaker 1: point next week. But as far as that goes, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of weird. You see this in football, you don't
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes see it in basketball. And football a coach will
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  Speaker 1: coach through the bowl game normally in basketball doesn't happen
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  Speaker 1: that way. But North Texas is in the NIT semi
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  Speaker 1: which take place next Tuesday. If they were to win,
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  Speaker 1: they would play again next Thursday in the championship game.
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  Speaker 1: So the press conference could take place next week. It
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  Speaker 1: could be Wednesday, it could be Thursday, it could be Friday,
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  Speaker 1: so something in that range. All right, we'll focus on
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  Speaker 1: who this guy is. Let's first off, start by his name.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty simple name. Okay, pretty simple name. But I gacked
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  Speaker 1: a tweet earlier. What that was? That was in my truck.
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  Speaker 2: You were tech dog driving.
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  Speaker 3: Don't be distracted texting. Just focus on what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I was in the parking lot. I was getting ready
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  Speaker 1: to go in the football practice.
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  Speaker 3: Let me guess you used a wrong vowel on accident.
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  Speaker 1: Well I was, wasn't paying attention. I put in Ross
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  Speaker 1: instead of Rock. Just hit the wrong button, I did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I went, yeah, I know. His name is Ross Hodge.
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  Speaker 1: So four letters for the first name, Ross, last name Hodge,
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  Speaker 1: not hodgees, no, S's just Ross Hodge. Just pretty straightforward. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: four on the first, four letters on the first, five
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  Speaker 1: on the second, and that's who he is. Dallas, Texas
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  Speaker 1: native forty four years of age, has coached junior college ranks.
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  Speaker 1: Has coached at the mid major ranks, with stops including
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  Speaker 1: Southern miss Colorado State, also Arkansas State, and then most
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  Speaker 1: recently at the University of North Texas. Yes, there is
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  Speaker 1: a relationship pre existing with wv's athletic director, Reren Baker.
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  Speaker 1: Hodge was an assistant at UNT when Ren was the AD.
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  Speaker 1: Hodge was an assistant to Grant McCaslin, who is now
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  Speaker 1: the head coach of course at Texas Tech. So that
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  Speaker 1: is the base, and we'll start from there and will
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  Speaker 1: jump on in and we begin I would think with
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  Speaker 1: Hoppy and some obvious observations, this.
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  Speaker 4: Is not on first inspection.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, it is not a while hire because you
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  Speaker 2: follow basketball and you're a Mountaineer fan, but how much
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  Speaker 2: do you really follow the AAC and how much do
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  Speaker 2: you follow in North Texas, So you might not be
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  Speaker 2: very familiar with him. I was thinking about let's say
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  Speaker 2: you're looking for a house and you're just driving through,
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  Speaker 2: driving through an area and you see a house and
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  Speaker 2: you go, Okay, I'm not sure what the curb appeal is.
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  Speaker 2: But then you go you look in the house and
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  Speaker 2: you take a closer look and say, oh, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good qualities here. And that's what you get
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  Speaker 2: once you just begin to open the door. To Ross Hodge,
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  Speaker 2: seven years as a head coach at different levels, he's
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  Speaker 2: one at each level where he's been a head coach.
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  Speaker 2: She's one, ninety two and forty seven. I know that
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  Speaker 2: Spreads will have more on his stats. Two years at
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  Speaker 2: UNT was nineteen and fifteen lost players they year, then
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  Speaker 2: was twenty seven and eight this year and semi finals
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  Speaker 2: of n IT. So he's he's won. He is defensive
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  Speaker 2: minded and that is important for a lot of different levels.
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  Speaker 2: As you guys say, defense, defense travels. You got to
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  Speaker 2: play defense in this league. North Texas one of the
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  Speaker 2: top defensive teams in the country for the last five years,
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  Speaker 2: been very good, and he's been This coach has been
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  Speaker 2: responsible for that, not only when he was a head coach,
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  Speaker 2: but when he was an assistant under McCaslin. So uh,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, Unt, I don't want to get into Brad zone.
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  Speaker 2: I think was average. I think, okay, I'll stop them.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, go ahead, no, no, not really obvious.
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  Speaker 2: He'll have defensive stats, but the defensive stats are there
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  Speaker 2: in Bradwell back that up and mccaslyn, who ren hired
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  Speaker 2: right at UNT and then went on to Extra SEC
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  Speaker 2: and mccaslyn described him as co head coach even though
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  Speaker 2: he was associated described as co head coach, and if
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  Speaker 2: you saw that video, mcaslyn gave a ringing endorsement of Hodge.
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  Speaker 2: And the third factor that I think weagh heavily for
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  Speaker 2: WVU is that he's a character guy. So he checks
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  Speaker 2: He checks a lot of them. He might not check
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  Speaker 2: the box of we know exactly who he is, but
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  Speaker 2: once you start to peel back the layers, he checks
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  Speaker 2: a lot of boxes. Now I know that there was
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  Speaker 2: a push within West Virginia and some alumnis, some influential
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  Speaker 2: people for Jared Calhoun at Utah State. But and Calhoun
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  Speaker 2: was on the list of who this this West Virginia
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  Speaker 2: was looking at. But I think Brad that Hodge was
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  Speaker 2: up pretty high all alone. And once it was evident
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  Speaker 2: that McCallum was going to go to Iowa, I think
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  Speaker 2: that that started things moving in a certain direction. And
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  Speaker 2: with McCallum, I'm going to go back to McCallum for
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  Speaker 2: a minute, guys, is that Iowa had to get McCallum.
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  Speaker 2: They had to get him, and West Virginia could not
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  Speaker 2: afford to get into a bidding war with mcallum and
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  Speaker 2: give McCallum a pay raise before he even takes a job.
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  Speaker 2: So that sort of took care of itself. And then
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  Speaker 2: I think from there, you know it was Hodge, it
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  Speaker 2: was it was Calhoun, it was maybe Patino, and the
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  Speaker 2: other guys kind of saw their handwriting on the wall
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  Speaker 2: and so they sort of did their own thing. And
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  Speaker 2: then West Virginia slid to fight with Hodge, and you
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  Speaker 2: may as well release it because it became a portly
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  Speaker 2: kept secret. So it wasn't going to hold anyway. For
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  Speaker 2: five days we would have been talking about Hodge. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that, as I said, when you go in
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  Speaker 2: the door and start looking around the rooms, you see
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  Speaker 2: a lot of significant qualities for this guy that fit
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  Speaker 2: a narrative in West Virginia, and you know, back to
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  Speaker 2: back to Calhoun and no offense to Calhoun. But in West
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  Speaker 2: Virginia sometimes we get obsessed by who's from here, who
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  Speaker 2: has connections here, and those things can be important, but
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  Speaker 2: the real test is not who is from here or
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  Speaker 2: who has connections here, but who really wants to be here,
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  Speaker 2: who wants to be here and sees the potential here.
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  Speaker 2: I like a don Neelan more so than what those
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  Speaker 2: connections are. Those are my obvious observations. Thank you, happy,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, happy, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of things I've said this throughout the year,
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  Speaker 3: and hop I get what you're saying there is you
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  Speaker 3: may not have known Ross Hodge, and then you dive
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  Speaker 3: in there and you peel back the layers and you
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  Speaker 3: see a lot of things you like. You know who
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  Speaker 3: didn't need to peel back the layers, Baker, Rent Breaker.
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  Speaker 3: So here's what I've said throughout the year. I knew
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  Speaker 3: before Darren DeVries got here that he was a really
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  Speaker 3: good coach. Right you could look at his resume, you
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  Speaker 3: could dive into it if you know people that knew him,
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  Speaker 3: you talked to basketball people. There was nobody that said,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure this guy can coach. But after being
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  Speaker 3: around him nearly daily for nine months, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I came to learn about Darren coach an elite coach.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I said on here many times. If you
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  Speaker 3: had a job opening, I don't care where you were
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  Speaker 3: in the country and didn't call him, you probably need
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  Speaker 3: a new ad was an elite coach because I saw
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  Speaker 3: it up close every day. You know, who Baker has
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  Speaker 3: seen up close a lot. Yes, Ross Hodge, and it
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  Speaker 3: does take you to a different level. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that's really important and valuable from a couple standpoints. One,
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  Speaker 3: going into a search, I think there's a perception out
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  Speaker 3: there among some that you were down into your fifth
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  Speaker 3: and sixth choice. That's not the case here. You talk
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  Speaker 3: to multiple people as an ad for a lot of reasons.
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  Speaker 3: One of them is you never know when you're going
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  Speaker 3: to do the next search, and if you're Rent Baker,
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  Speaker 3: you probably assume you're doing a search every week right
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  Speaker 3: at this point, so you better know who you're talking to. Also,
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  Speaker 3: for down the road, the more people you can talk
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  Speaker 3: to before you have to hire them, the better you are.
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  Speaker 3: This is a hard thing to do to identify coaches
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  Speaker 3: and get it right. There's a ton of guesswork involved,
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  Speaker 3: and you can get around it. But you're speed dating
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  Speaker 3: on this stuff, and you're trying to get a match
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  Speaker 3: with somebody that's really good and you're paying them millions
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  Speaker 3: of dollars, and there's a lot of variables and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of boxes you're trying to check, but you rarely
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  Speaker 3: get all of your boxes checked. So if you can
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  Speaker 3: check a bunch of those boxes. Because you know firsthand
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  Speaker 3: how somebody operates and how good they are. That is
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  Speaker 3: invaluable and I think you saw that in this search.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's really an an important thing to
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  Speaker 3: know about this, is that Ren has first hand experience.
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  Speaker 3: Then you start to move around and talk to basketball people,
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  Speaker 3: and I've had if I'm not in the double digits
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  Speaker 3: and conversations I'm close with basketball people about Ross Hodge.
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  Speaker 3: Since starting back this weekend, I haven't found one yet
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  Speaker 3: that says I don't know. I'm finding a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: people saying, dude's a really good coach, knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: Ran the defense for Mac mccoslin. As he has said.
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  Speaker 3: You've talked about the defensive numbers. We'll get into that.
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  Speaker 3: We talked in the last podcast the importance in this
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  Speaker 3: league of starting it. Starting your program, which you're basically
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  Speaker 3: starting your program again with defense, gives you the best
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  Speaker 3: chance to win. Then you grow it from there. Every
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  Speaker 3: one of these people has raved about his basketball ability,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's important. When you're talking to multiple
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  Speaker 3: people at different levels and they're all raving about that,
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  Speaker 3: that's a good starting point. Is it a guarantee you
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  Speaker 3: win a national championship, absolutely not. Is it guaranteed you
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  Speaker 3: can win a Big twelve championship? Absolutely not. Did you
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  Speaker 3: check a bunch of boxes on your list? I think
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  Speaker 3: you did in this search.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think rent always begins first and
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  Speaker 1: foremost that you have to have won as a head coach,
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  Speaker 1: And you go back to look at his JC days
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  Speaker 1: where he was over eighty percent, and you take a
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  Speaker 1: look at what he's done at UNT in his first
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  Speaker 1: two years nineteen and now twenty seven and still with
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  Speaker 1: at least one game left to go, that fills this thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I also think some of this was the way
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  Speaker 1: that Darren de Rees departed. Those two did not have
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  Speaker 1: an existing relationship before he hired him. And I do
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  Speaker 1: think to take what your two points are, there needs
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  Speaker 1: to be a level of comfort of knowing what it
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  Speaker 1: is that you get. And oftentimes when you make a
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  Speaker 1: coach and higher that doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 3: Really more times than not you don't totally know it.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't And so I think if you go back
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  Speaker 1: and you look at the Mark Kellogg higher, if you
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  Speaker 1: take a look at this hire that he knows day one,
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  Speaker 1: he has a better idea of what he's getting than
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  Speaker 1: he did in the past with the hiring of Darren Devrees.
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  Speaker 1: You learn things when someone is totally fresh and new.
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  Speaker 1: As time goes on, you know things when you hire
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  Speaker 1: someone that you already know. So he fits that bill
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  Speaker 1: of having one at a really high level, and all
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  Speaker 1: indications are that he will continue to win. Now to
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  Speaker 1: your point in regard to sexy higher and winning the
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  Speaker 1: press conference, yeah, probably probably doesn't happen. You probably aren't
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  Speaker 1: going to walk out of there slapping your knee and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: that was a great one liner or that was a
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  Speaker 1: great zinger or something like that. But we all know
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  Speaker 1: that over a period of time that really doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that really truly matters is this is
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  Speaker 1: a this is a zero sum game. Only thing that
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  Speaker 1: matters is victories. And while there may be some folks
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  Speaker 1: right now who are scratching their head as to Okay,
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  Speaker 1: why is it this guy or why wasn't it this guy,
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  Speaker 1: that probably doesn't go away for a period of time.
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  Speaker 1: It will it will start to turn when they start
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  Speaker 1: to win, which looks like that will happen. And they
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  Speaker 1: also think this and this is nothing against him being
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  Speaker 1: ross Hodge because he had nothing to do with the
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  Speaker 1: departure of Darren Devrees. But the way that that ended,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna take even longer than it normally would because
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  Speaker 1: people are hurt, people are upset, people are bummed out.
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  Speaker 1: So again, nothing to do with him, but it's going
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  Speaker 1: to take a longer period of time. I think ultimately
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  Speaker 1: he wins. But I've said this before. When you hire
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  Speaker 1: a coach, unless it's Saban in football or like one
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  Speaker 1: of very very few guys in basketball, you're flipping a coin.
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  Speaker 1: You hope, but you're not sure. But at least he
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  Speaker 1: has a background that he has won, and he has
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  Speaker 1: won consistently, and this new world that we're in in
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  Speaker 1: basketball of reshuffling your roster every year is no big
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  Speaker 1: deal for him because that's how junior colleges work. They
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  Speaker 1: change their roster every single year. So this is not
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  Speaker 1: a stress point where for some guys that have been
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  Speaker 1: in this business a long time it might stress them out.
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  Speaker 1: I think these JC guys, he's kind of flipped their
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  Speaker 1: shoulders and go like, Okay, not a problem.
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  Speaker 2: I go get guys, and he's already had to do it.
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  Speaker 2: North Texas, North Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has seven transfers on this year's team and
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  Speaker 1: three freshmen, so basically it's a rebuild and that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of what I think this is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: So coaching searches are so much about guys. There's so
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  Speaker 3: much about eliminating questions and unknowns. You know, it's almost
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  Speaker 3: a work backward in the process type of list because
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  Speaker 3: very rarely are you in a situation and just go
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  Speaker 3: back a couple of higears ago. What would people have
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  Speaker 3: said about John Beeline if you had more access to
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  Speaker 3: what everybody thought when you hire John Beelin, people didn't
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  Speaker 3: know who John Beelin was. Worked out okay, right, a
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  Speaker 3: guy that had won in a lot of places as
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  Speaker 3: a smaller school. That translated up. You rarely go from
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  Speaker 3: John Beeline, who's going to be in the Hall of
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  Speaker 3: Fame into a known entity in Bob Huggins.
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  Speaker 4: Who ended up in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: That was a rare, unique situation that you had a
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  Speaker 3: highly successful guy that wanted to come back to his
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  Speaker 3: alma mater and you knew what you were getting there
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  Speaker 3: weren't a lot of questions with Hugs. That was a
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  Speaker 3: okay Beeline left, go get Bob Huggins were done.
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  Speaker 4: We move forward.
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  Speaker 3: There wasn't all of this questions and these that doesn't happen,
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  Speaker 3: and that doesn't happen in these situations very often. So
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  Speaker 3: you've got to just try and eliminate all the questions
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  Speaker 3: you have. And that's what you do when you go
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  Speaker 3: into one of these searches. And I think you've done that.
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  Speaker 3: Eliminate every question you have? No, absolutely not. Have you
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  Speaker 3: eliminated a bunch I think you have to the best
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  Speaker 3: of your ability when you hire somebody.
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  Speaker 4: I think you have. And we'll get into some of those.
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  Speaker 2: And he checks the three along with knowing who he is,
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  Speaker 2: which is vitally important, not that he's hiring his boy,
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  Speaker 2: but that he knows him. He knows him, which is
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  Speaker 2: quite important. The three most important things were has he
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  Speaker 2: coached in one at multiple levels?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Does he coach good defense? Yes? Is he a character guy?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Three biggest things that mattered in this search that fit Hodge?
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if you could double up on that, Like,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, I'm sure Ross Hodge first day on
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? By about ten minutes?
• 19:25
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• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Did you have it but didn't go with it? Yeah
• 19:32
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes down, It comes down hobby it I
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• 19:37
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• 19:39
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• 19:49
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• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Here's a deal, dude, You got the new president of
• 20:21
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• 20:24
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• 20:27
  Speaker 1: enjoy your pound of flesh. All right, let's dive deep
• 20:30
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  Speaker 1: So you spent a good chunk of time diving into
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Ross Hodge. Did you have any moments where you went like, hmmm,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that's intriguing.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Sorry, still trying to get some head to be on
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the defensive site Intel. There's were coming down the stretch. Okay,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: still working on some things. All right, let's start here
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: a couple of these numbers you said, And I think
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: the important thing to know is the eighty percent winning
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: percentage as a head coach through the junior college ranks.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: That was a really difficult junior college circuit. He was
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: in as well, so that's not just oh, he's out
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: there in a rect league win in some games one
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: at a high level.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: There.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: You mentioned the seventy percent winning percentage at North Texas.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how many times I've set on here
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: throughout the last however long it's been years. So I
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: think there's a ton of outstanding coaches in college basketball
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: outside of Power four. I think there's a lot of
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: outstanding coaches outside of Division IE as well. And I
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: think that's important now because the way the game and
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: the basketball world has changed. I'll get into this here
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: in just a minute, and I think when you look
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: at these JUCO guys and even the Division two guys,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: and you hit on this earlier, Tony, and it was
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: my first point on here, because I think it's applicable now.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Those guys look at the D one guys that are
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: losing their mind about the portal and just say, you're
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: forkidding me. This is our existence D two and JUCO
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: has done this every year throughout their history. That's what
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: they had to do at those levels. So I think
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: now that the world has changed in recruiting and you
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: don't have to come to West Virginia with recruiting ties
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: in Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York to be successful. I think
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: this is more valuable than it's ever been. Guys that
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: know how to walk in say okay, I need thirteen
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: new guys. Let's go go get thirteen new guys.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: No big deal.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: He did this last year at North Texas had less
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: than twenty percent of his returning production back led him
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: to twenty seven wins with an entirely new roster. What's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: he had four guys go on and play at the
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: high major level this year. So I was told by
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: somebody in the business an elite recruiter, an elite recruiter
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: coming out of the JUCO in the mid ranger ranks
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: is different than what it used to mean for the
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: power for level. But I think perfect for right now
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and perfect for West Virginia. From this standpoint, West Virginia's
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: got to find guys that fit in the system that
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: you're running and guys that maybe were a little bit
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: undervalued at other places, and you've got to make sure
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: you go get them and plug them in. And I
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: think that's easier hobby. If you're an elite recruiter, that
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: means you can identify what you want to run your stuff,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and that's super important one. And now the advent of nil.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You have a budget here that's competitive and you can
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: go out and get your guys. So I think this
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: JUCO route, this Division two as you're seeing, iowall go
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: with Ben McCollum. I mean, it's not like McCollum has
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: a huge track record this level. He won one year
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: at Drake at a mid major level, a good what
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Darren turned into a good job, and boom, he had
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: multiple power fors after him. So I think ads are
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: recognized that that as well, that you can There's great
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: coaches all over this country at different levels. So I
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: think that's the hope is that's the case here with
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Ross Hodge. He goes out this season, has another really
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: good year and is still playing, which I think is
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: important to see too. A guy that's one at a
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: high level. Let's go through some other guys. The Grant
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: McCaslin comparison is one that you're gonna hear a lot
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: because he worked for him. What did McCaslin do came
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: up through the JUCO ranks one one at Arkansas State,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: one at North Texas. Translated that now into a Power
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: four level at Texas Tech, competed for a Big twelve title.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: They're still playing the six Sweet sixteen. It's not too
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: dissimilar from Chris Beard. How many people in the basketball
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: business rave about Chris Beard? Where did he make his bones?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Juco ranks? Then came up Arkansas Little Rock before he
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: got his shot to go? And is what is Chris
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Beer doing having a lot of success now at Ole Miss,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: previously at Texas Tech, previously at Texas So those are
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: a couple of guys that we've seen in this world.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: We talked on the last episode, Ren was likely looking
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: for a defensive minded head coach. And the reason for
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: that is if you look at the blueprint throughout this
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: league and teams that are having success now, they started defensively.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Let me repeat some numbers from the last episode. Nine
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: of the top thirty seven defensive teams in the country
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: this year played in the Big Twelve, and I'm going
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: off defensive efficiency. That's almost what one fourth in essence,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: twenty five percent of the best defensive teams in the
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: country played in this particular league. That was Houston, Texas Tech,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: and Arizona all still alive in the Sweet sixteen. West
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Virginia in KSE State the only two of those nine
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: that didn't make the NCAA tournament. And as we know,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: were it not for an all time screwjob, West Virginia
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: would have been in that list as well, and it
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: would have been left with in case State. Thanks screw Joe,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: thank you. So defense can win in this league. Defense
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: wins in this league. So let's start with Ross Hodge
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and his defense. Hoppy, you gave a couple of numbers
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: right there, but let's get into a few more. Here's
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: North Texas third nationally this season in points allowed per
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: game at just fifty nine point nine, forty second nationally,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: defensive efficiency out of three hundred and what do I
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: always say, three sixty four, three sixty seven, keep or
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: take forty second nationally twenty six and opponent effective field
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: goal percentage seventeenth and opponent three point percentage thirty eighth,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: in steel percentage seventieth percentile nationally, and points per chance
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: off live ball turnovers, but top seven percent nationally when
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: it came to conference games. And if you listen to
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: this show regularly, the reason I'm putting that stat in there,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you know that that was something West Virginia did a
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: great job of this year.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: A group that was.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Limited offensively, So how did it get points defensively? Live
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: ball turnovers convert those. Ross's team at North Texas this
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: past year was very good. If you watch the NIT
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: game the other night, you saw that ESPN graphic that
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: pointed out North Texas points per game defense second nationally
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: over the last what three years, only behind Houston. Hello,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: good company to be in. I was told by somebody
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: in the basketball business, this guy's a defensive savant and
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: it's not just about it's not just about toughness and
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: going over screens. We saw Darren's group was very good
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: at that. The toughness was instilled from day one. I'm
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: told this guy has elite level toughness as well and
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: gets it out of his guys.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: But that his scheme.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: The schematics defensively are outstanding. They're confusing, they're difficult to
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: play against, and when you get the right guys in place,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: it's a beast, as evidenced by their numbers right there.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: So something to keep in mind as we move forward offensively.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Here's what I think would surprise some folks. Second in
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: the AAC and offensive efficiency fourth and effective field goal
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: percentage third in the league.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: In free throw.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Attempt rate, I have a team that gets the line hoppy.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if the officials agree with that,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: and they'll get any calls. I don't know if you get
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: screwed on every call like you did this last year.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: A team that gets to the free throw line and then, oh,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: by the way, makes it when they get there first
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: in free throw percentage. Now, again, that's just group at
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: North Texas. It'll be a whole new team at West Virginia,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: so we'll see. But I think that's a misnomer out
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: there that the offense isn't any good. What it is
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: is a very slow paced group, at least he's been
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: at North Texas. But let's get into that a little bit.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: We saw that with West Virginia this past year. You
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: hung your hat on defense and hoppy. Theoretically, if you
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: have an elite defense and you slow the pace, it
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: should keep you in more games. And then what can
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: happen on nights when you're making shots, you're converting steals,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you're getting to the free throw line, you're dropping some
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: threes in. Now, all of a sudden, you're stealing some
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: of those games. And I thought we saw that formula
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: this year. I think what you're gonna see next year
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: is similar to this. You're gonna win with defense, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: you're going to be super tough and you're going to
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: be efficient on the offensive end, but you're going to
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: have limited opportunities. You're going to slow that pace down
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: and not give these other teams in this league a
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: lot of possessions and get your wins that way. Then
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: my guess would be as it was going to be
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: with Darren this year. Then you start to add more
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: offensive pieces into that. You know, what makes you better offensively,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Guys that can score better Offensive players those are hard
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: to find, especially right away. It's easier to go find
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: guys that want to guard and can get after it,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: and it's a culture and its mentality. We saw that
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: with Bob Huggins for how many years, went and found
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: a certain type of player, and you could find those
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: guys and you put them into your system and then
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you add the offensive pieces around that. As an example,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: let's look at some teams Texas Tech Grant mccaslyn, known
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: for his defense, right elite defense. How about their offense
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: this year fifth nationally and offensive efficiency. If you talk
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: to people that know Grant McCaslin, you know what he
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: says about his offense. When you go and say, Grant
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: your offense going to change your offense this year, it's
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Top five national. Change your offense. They're hoppy, they're top
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: five nationally.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: You know Grant mccaslin's director, Thomas I have better offensive players.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: If you watch it, it's the same system, it's the
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: same set of plays. It's more skilled offensive guys running
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: that which therefore then you turn and run a little
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: bit more. You push the pace. We heard that this
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: past year Darren was going to push the pace as
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: the roster changed and it fit. So I think that's
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: what you're gonna see. I'll give you two other examples.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: What's Houston's hallmark? What does Houston do the defense guard?
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: What did they do over the last year or so?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: What did they add?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Added offensive players?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Couple great shooters, add sharp into the lineup, which makes
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Crier even more valuable because it's not just one shooter.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: You see Houston elevate into the top ten nationally in
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: offense because they added a couple of really good offensive pieces.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: They're still a top fifteen, top ten defensive group. I'll
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: give you a third in the Big twelve. Tjyotzelberger. What
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: did he do when he took over the Iowa State program?
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: What did they become?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Defense?
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Heavy defense, got in your face, created offense, off defense?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: What did they trans too?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: This year? More of an offensive team.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Added to Curtis Jones a lead offensive player, they added
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: a couple more guys in. Now have they not been
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: injured and battled that all season? Never had the same lineup.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I still contend that's a Final four type of team.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: That was a really good team. But there's three examples
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: of guys that have come in and they hang their
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: hat on defense, and they're elite defensively, and they got
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: their teams into contention in this league by being defensive based.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: And then as you go on, you add your offensive
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: pieces in. I have a feeling that's what you're going
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: to see here.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: If you don't guard at an elite level in this league,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you've got no.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Chance, got no chance, got no chance.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: North Texas this past year was an excellent catch and
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: shoot team. Guys one of the best nationally went on
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: guarded top five nationally in points per shot when on guarded.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Interesting.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Talked all year about West Virginia's success after timeouts. We
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: like to use that as one of the hallmarks of
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: really good X and owing when you can come out
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: of timeouts. West Virginia was really good this past year.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: You want to know about North Texas this year in
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: atos hoppy ato after timeout ato Okay. North Texas this
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: year top four percent nationally in points per possession. Nice,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: that's on the offensive end. Talked about West Virginia's ability
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: to get points off blobs hop blob, baseline out of
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: bounce Okay, West Virginia stole a lot of points this
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: year because they were so efficient on those plays. So
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: when you're a team that has less offensive opportunities because
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: you're slowing the pace, you want to take advantage of
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: after timeouts and baseline out of bounds where you can
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: steal some buckets, get some quote easy baskets. North Texas
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: this year on blobs guys okay, top two percent nationally
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: in points per possession.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So these things are translating into hodge running good stuff.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Well, leaning that way, lean, yeah, that's the lean, Yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: leaning that way. It becomes quite it becomes quite fascinating
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: interesting because the season never ends. So we're recording on
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the twenty seventh of March. This basketball season is not
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: going to end like you might think the season's over
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: right now. The season isn't over right now. You're entering
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: into a different level. It's kind of like the NFL,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: like one thing after the other, likes soon as the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Super bowls over, then you get ready for the draft,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and then you have the draft, then you have OTAs
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and then you have a camp and then the season starts.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: That's the same thing this is going to be. So
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get here sometime next week and then it
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: all starts to happen. Now we're into April, and then
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you're gonna start to see the pieces of his staff
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: come together. Then you're gonna start to see the first
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  Speaker 1: players come together. And then April is going to be over.
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  Speaker 1: And now it's May, and now the semester is over
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  Speaker 1: at WVU, and guess what happens now at summer school
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  Speaker 1: and the new players will enroll and then they're going
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to be on the floor right and here comes June.
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  Speaker 1: But what do they do? Well, they're actually they get
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: to how many hours on the floor, So that'll be June,
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  Speaker 3: Truly year around, and last year they moved up the
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  Speaker 3: start of the season with that exhibition game. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if this is confirmed, but I think the exhibition
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  Speaker 3: openers like July ninth, something like that somewhere in there.
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  Speaker 3: Not confirmed. You probably won't see a big influx of
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: North Texas players coming with him. They play eight, only
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: two of them have eligibility remaining, so not not a
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: ton of guys on that roster that will come with
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: you as you look to what it will probably be
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  Speaker 3: a complete rebuild.
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  Speaker 2: Again, right, I looked at that too. It looks like
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: their best player was at point guard and he's done.
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  Speaker 3: So the two guys that have eligibility, they're both six'
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  Speaker 3: Editions we'll break that. Down but just a couple of
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  Speaker 3: possibilities based on this year's. Roster one other thing this
• 34:42
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  Speaker 3: Sets one, thing you, know you mentioned hop that he's
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• 34:58
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  Speaker 4: Basketball that theory right, There.
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  Speaker 2: Well because in the old, days that is two years.
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't happen un till they would finish, playing till the
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  Speaker 2: season was. Over but this had gotten to the, point
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  Speaker 2: they may, wait but this had gotten to the point
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  Speaker 2: where it was so that That hodge would have had
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to have spent the next five days minimum dodging the.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Question or giving, weird awkward and awkward well just.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Just address, it AND i think that's really. Smart move.
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  Speaker 2: ON i, mean that's the way you deal.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: With it for both.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Groups For West virginia it's necessary because he's going to
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: need to build his staff and work in the, portal
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: which is. Happening BUT i think for His North texas guys. Too,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: yeah like talk about. Distractions distractions are when you.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Have to keep.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Dodging, yeah this is Just, Yeah i'm going to Be
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: West ray's next. Coach you know What i'm doing now
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: over the next few days as, WELL i can do
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: both is going to get our guys ready to. Play
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: North texas guys know exactly where everbody. Stands they knew
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: what was happening as, Well so you just address it
• 36:12
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• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Go, yeah and the good thing about it is you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: don't know who he's going to bring in as his
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: player personnel person or as general. Manager but rest assured
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: that it's already. Underway conversations are being, had discussions are being.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Had they know who's in the. Portal that's happening right,
• 36:33
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• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Huge and by the, way record breaking numbers in the,
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• 36:38
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  Speaker 2: Tony you don't have a situation where a player, says,
• 36:44
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• 36:48
  Speaker 2: now he's. LEAVING i, mean that doesn't it doesn't happen
• 36:50
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• 36:52
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  Speaker 1: know it's really easy to blame the refs when things
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  Speaker 1: percent shooting from the. Field West virginia had a chance
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  Speaker 2: Year Tony brad a couple of things about that. Game
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  Speaker 2: One number, two still don't like playing On North carolina's.
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  Speaker 2: Court number, THREE i was whining about watch out for the.
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  Speaker 2: ultimately LIKE i Think West virginia maybe shot seventeen eighteen free.
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• 49:21
  Speaker 1: lowest point in recent. Memory there was The huggins, situation
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: a losing season under an interim, coach followed by a good,
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  Speaker 1: hire THE ncaa, snub then coach leaves top that off
• 49:31
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  Speaker 1: transition From Gail catlett To Dan dockich To John beeline was,
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  Speaker 1: statement TO wv. Fans does that prize you at?
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  Speaker 1: do anything. Publicly you can just send. SOMETHING i, mean
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  Speaker 1: send something out. Graphic that's all.
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  Speaker 2: questions but they're not obligated to DO i, guess and
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• 51:45
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• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Season doug And. Bridgeport so we Had Carter zuliani on.
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• 52:22
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  Speaker 4: With it and loved. It elite level.
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  Speaker 2: Swimmer who does? That this is unfair to the, kid young?
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Man who does? That remind you of in mountaineer history history.
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• 52:48
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• 52:56
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  Speaker 1: Athlete, hey three, Guys Professor vinnie, here is it too
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  Speaker 1: soon or would it be deemed derogatory if we gave
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  Speaker 1: new Coach Ross hodge the Nickname Boss hogg since he's
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  Speaker 1: a defensive COACH i think it might.
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  Speaker 3: IT i think only people of a certain age would get. That,
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  Speaker 3: Carter told, Us, yeah you, know dad one of his
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  Speaker 4: In i've been, Around i've been working.
• 53:59
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  Speaker 1: IT i don't think it's any. Question he could. Do
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  Speaker 2: swimmer and a football. Player he's a he's a. Dude
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  Speaker 2: he's a. Dude he's, uh he's in that. Game one
• 54:33
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• 57:46
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  Speaker 1: few hard edge observations for his first, Episode Bunny Bubby
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• 58:38
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm the reason that my observations are obvious are that you,
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  Speaker 1: so you get to keep. That that could be tens
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• 1:00:10
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