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A Miserable Game against the Green Team, More Questions at the Quarterback Position, and the Vikings are Still Somehow in Playoff Contention | TSH Ep. 21 · The Skol Hop

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welcome into another episode of the Skull Hop.
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I'm Evan. And I'm Austin.
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We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa.
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We like drinking beer. We like talking about the
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Vikings. We do, and I think I say it
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every other week. It's one of those things is
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consistently more fun than the other.
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But yeah, we we are drinking beer.
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What did? What did you bring us?
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Yeah, this is your beer that you brought tonight.
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This is so I have brought us from Back Pocket Brewing again.
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We drink Iowa brewed beer on the podcast and this is a back
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Pocket brewing beer. It's a hella style blonde lager.
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It's the gold coin. We did a little bit of a a pre
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taste on TikTok which we'll we'll release right after we
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record the episode, but I like it.
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What do you think? I mean, I'm this far in right
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now and it's it's pretty good. I can't complain at all.
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I've had a few back pocket beers actually.
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My sister got me a six pack of a different kind of their beer as
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a part of my Christmas gift and I had that in my hands.
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But we do record during the week and that beer was a 6.7
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percenter and I thought we should probably tone it down a
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little bit. We're all going back to work.
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So we'll we'll go with this gold coin 5.2 percenter.
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So little bit, little bit nicer on us in the morning.
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Good call. Good call.
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Well, thanks for bringing it and it's delicious.
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Of course, I'm excited to enjoy a few of these and have some
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And my wife is like, nagging me now.
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She's like, we gotta go on a big top trip, like, well, we know a
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guy. We do know a guy and don't let
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that guy hear that that your wife is on board and he's
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hearing right now. Hello, Sir.
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You will probably get a text or something.
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No. That's I'll prepare myself for
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that. All right.
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All right. Well.
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We do this to ourselves. We do.
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You know what? I'd still I blame you, EV.
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I blame you for making me care about this darn team so much.
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This is all your fault. I thought you were going to
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blame me for starting Jordan Love and Aaron Jones and
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fantasy. We don't.
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I almost. I forgot about that now.
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You. You still started them after all
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the grief I gave you last. Year.
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And I beat you too. Well, yeah, like I said, fantasy
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is done. We were playing for what, 5th
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place? We still are.
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We have one more week. Oh man, it's a 2.
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Week playoff. Oh man.
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Yeah. Well, hey, at least nobody can
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say I rigged it because I technically am the commissioner.
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I think maybe I made friend of the show Forest also a
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commissioner. I don't remember if I did.
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Sorry, Forest, if I forgot about that.
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But at least I'm not cheating. Like, at least I'm not rigging
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it for me to win this free league that we're in.
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Quick on air production meeting. Skull Hop Fantasy League.
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Skull Hop Fantasy League next season?
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So this was kind of the Skull Hop Fantasy league, was it?
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This was the Skull Fantasy League.
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So if you did you ever pay attention to the name of the
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league? Oh, it makes sense now, yeah.
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It's it's the Super cool outstanding league I think is
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what I named it and I I spelled cool with the K so it was the
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Skull league. Nice.
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Yeah, I see what you did there. It took me 17 weeks to get.
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There. You would have never got there.
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And that's surprising. You're the only you're the one I
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almost. Vikings fan in the league?
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Oh man, well. Well, hey Pre Congrats on
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beating me and getting 5th place in our league.
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I I assume that's how it's going to happen.
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I was predicted to finish last in the league at the beginning
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of the season, yeah. That's pretty good.
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I think we're in 18 leagues, so you almost got halfway, You
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almost beat half of the people. Congrats.
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We should probably know who's like who's Actually, I think I
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is it Brian and Matt in the Championship maybe.
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I think they played in the playoffs.
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I don't remember. I don't know who's in the
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championship. We should.
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Think I think Brian and Forest are in the 3rd place game.
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Are they OK? So.
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Well, Congrats to whoever is in the playoffs and the
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championship game of the school league.
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I'm very proud of you. Next next season though, we'll
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have a skull Hop fantasy league and we'll open it up publicly.
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Anybody that wants to come in and play, we'd love it.
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We might have to do some kind of a drawing or something, 'cause I
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don't want to make it a, you know, if every single one of our
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fans listens and wants to be in the league, we'd have to have
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like, we could spend a. Couple of leagues, yeah, we'll
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figure it out. Yeah, but yeah, I'm, I'm on
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board a school hop league. Let's go.
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And maybe, maybe it's already full.
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Maybe everybody that's in it this year wants to be in it next
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year. OK, how many?
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How many can you Max out with in a league like she's?
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Kind of weird 'cause ours is small, with eight teams.
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I think the sweet spot is probably 10 cause at that point
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there's enough. There's you're getting to the
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point where there's actually like a lot of strategy in it
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with finding enough starting quality players in the league to
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be able to put on your team any more than 10.
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That's just getting lucky with a guide.
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An under acted rookie that somehow is available for you to
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pick up. I don't know people do it.
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Sweet mom. It'll be something we'll do.
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Yeah, and I'm excited. We just successfully avoided
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talking about the Packer game for that much longer.
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Yeah, if we can just keep doing that, I think that would benefit
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all of us, 'cause there wasn't much worth talking about, no
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from that game. What was your first?
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Point My first point in our show notes here was it was pretty
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miserable all the way around every single aspect.
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Yep, it was bad. I can't think of a good play.
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I typically don't walk away from Vikings games.
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I walked away from this one. It was New Year's Eve.
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Yeah, I had family over. We were playing games and I
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just. I kept it on.
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I didn't turn it off, but I left the room and went to the dining
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room and played board games with family instead of sitting in
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front of the TV, continuing to be frustrated.
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And my wife will tell you I was grumpy the rest of the night,
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like I did not go to bed happy on New Year's.
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Eve Yeah, I was OK You know, we, we had another couple friends,
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actually. Friend of the show Forest and
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his wife were over for New Year's Eve.
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We just had a chill New Year's. And yeah, we we watched the
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whole game. And, I mean, at at a certain
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point, like, I just had to be a duck and let it roll off my
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back. Like they're not going to come
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back. It's not a, they're not playing
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the Colts. OK, You're not going to come
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back from 30 points down like so I was OK.
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Disappointed, obviously, but I didn't.
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I tried not to let it ruin my night and I think I did an OK
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job. Maybe.
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Maybe our friends can tell you different if if I did an OK job
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or not. But.
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So this question just popped into my head and I'll ask you,
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do you think the outcome would have been different had Mullins
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started and played the entire game as opposed to starting
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Hall, benching Hall at half time and then pulling up Mullins?
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I mean, we'll never know, but I think KOC said something today
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to the tune of because they announced Mullins is going to
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start against Detroit next week or this coming week.
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KOC said something to the tune of Mullins knows how to be make
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big plays in the offense, which, I mean, yeah, he got benched.
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But in the game against Detroit over a week and a half ago now,
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he had, what, 400 yards passing? It's just those four
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interceptions. That's what did it.
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The four picks were terrible and I wasn't mad.
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I I kind of expected the switch to haul.
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I think everybody's expected Mullins to be benched for the
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Packer game, and I feel like that was the right decision.
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And I don't think you're saying that he shouldn't have been
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benched. No, no, I'm just wondering out
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loud, would the outcome have been different or do you think
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the outcome would have been different?
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Maybe the offense would have then more productive at certain
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points, but you're still going to have turnovers.
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I think those interceptions interceptions don't just go
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away. Like even if for some crazy
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reason Mullins starts against the Lions this coming week and
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they end up winning and he has another 3-4 hundred yards
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passing, he's going to throw an interception.
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Like we're not going to go this whole game without seeing
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Mullins throw an interception. He very well could be benched
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again. I mean it.
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It just never know. So I don't know.
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I think in hindsight maybe, yeah, Mullins was the the guy
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that could have done the most with the offense.
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But I mean, it wouldn't have mattered on defense the whole
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game. The Vikings defense didn't do.
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Anything laid over and let the Packers run all over him?
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It was awful. Enough that I'm almost not even
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concerned about losing Brian Flores right now.
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Like, I still want him as a defensive coordinator.
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I still think that's a huge thing.
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That's good for the Vikings, especially if he were to be here
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and have another full offseason to get these core guys in the
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system and learning everything and maybe, you know, morph it a
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little bit more for the the defense.
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But I mean, I don't know who's chomping at the bit to sign him
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as their head coach right now after that Packer game.
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Anything you see out there is going to be Click Beatty at this
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point. Like I think there are rumors
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flying around, but it's not. There's nothing concrete in if
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the if the Vikings are done on Sunday, we'll learn a lot in the
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next couple of weeks. Oh yeah.
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And I guess after all that, I'm not.
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I wouldn't be overly surprised if he got a head coaching job.
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I think he's deserving of it. I just think their performance
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of the defense hasn't launched him into the stratosphere of
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like, Yep, obviously he's gone now.
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Like, I think there's some question marks.
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And ultimately, I think that's good.
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I think he's still back with the Vikings next year and I I would
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love that. There's a lot of question marks
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going into next season and we'll talk about those later on.
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But let's quickly go back to the Packer game really quick.
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And just to maybe tie that up and put a bow on it and move on
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from it, 'cause it was terrible. Wasn't correct me if I'm wrong,
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but wasn't the only touchdown that the Vikings scored.
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Wasn't that off of the month? The muffed punt?
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Oh, I don't know. Yeah, Yeah, 'cause you.
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It was after Mullins came in and after Hall got benched, 'cause
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you texted me saying, well, Mullins is he's the only guy
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that's gotten us in the end zone now.
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But yeah, I mean, you didn't have to go very far.
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Short sighted. Because yeah, he he didn't have
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to do much, right? So yeah, the the offense looked
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miserable. Just completely lost.
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Disjointed. The running game was awful
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still. Yeah, it just after that
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Cincinnati game where it looked great.
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Where has it been like? Whoever the running game
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coordinator is probably needs to find a new job next season.
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I don't know who that would be. I don't know if the Vikings have
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a specific passing and running game coordinators.
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I think it's all just Wes Phillips and then the staff
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below him. But right?
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Yeah, I, I well, I'm in watching highlights.
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I think we saw that maybe Tai Chandler isn't the best pass
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blocker, which is already going to exempt exemplify a poor
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quarterback play when he doesn't have any time to look down the
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field and pass. I mean, if there's a blitzer,
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he's almost always going to get in.
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And maybe that was the the secret stuff for the Packers
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this week. I don't know.
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Just everything was bad, nothing was good.
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I don't think you can take anything good away.
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And the other thing I'd like to point out is Jordan Love is
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still Jordan Love. He's playing better, yeah, then.
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And he played much better in this game than he did when the
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Vikings went to Green Bay and just.
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Oh yeah, yeah. Smoked.
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The Packers, but I'm pretty sure he was the offensive player of
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the week for the NFCI. Think they announced that today.
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Oh, from this game from Yeah, not not surprising, but like, he
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still makes mistakes. He still is not the most
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accurate. Any day of the week I would take
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a fully healthy Kirk Cousins. Oh my gosh.
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Yeah. Over Jordan Love.
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Oh yeah. So I I think he's gonna continue
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to grow into that but I don't know a lot remains to be seen
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with Jordan Love in my opinion. I don't think, I don't think
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we're we're at Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers level Jordan Love.
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Not yet, but how freaking annoying would that be like?
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It would be terribly annoying. Like, I thought Colts fans had
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it good going from Peyton Manning to having one bad year
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and then getting Andrew Luck. Like, they'd lucked into that.
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And then, sorry, Brian Luck retired.
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They ran out of Luck. But, yeah, for the Packers to
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potentially go from Hall of Fame quarterback to Hall of Fame
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quarterback and now if Love is showing flashes of being OK,
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like that's that's just dumb. That sucks.
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I'm so annoyed by it. Chris Collinsworth said it on
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the broadcast. In the game, he said the Packers
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have figured out the formula to developing quarterbacks.
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After your guy, you sit him for a couple of years under the MVP
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starter, and then when that guy moves on or retires or whatever,
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you bring him up and maybe deal with a few games or a half a
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season's worth of not great play until he adjusts and then boom,
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here we go. Well, I mean, maybe, maybe.
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That's a formula the Vikings can, can or.
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Can. Emulate.
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Yeah, emulate in the next year or two.
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Maybe. Do we wanna start talking about
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that cause? Talking about the future's much
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more exciting than talking about where the Vikings are at right
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now. Yeah, I think we put a a period
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on the Packer game. I think we.
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I would like to point out one more thing.
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Yeah, sorry to interrupt. And a very interesting Two
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interesting things could develop in this last game of the season.
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One, which is stupid, we've already talked about it, but
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Alexander Madison could finish the season as the leading rusher
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without a rushing touchdown. That's crazy.
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That's just stupid. So if he doesn't get in the end
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zone on the ground, it'll be the first time in Vikings history
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that the team's leading rusher hasn't scored a touchdown on the
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ground. The other interesting thing has
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less to do with the Vikings specifically, and more to do
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with the NFC North. There's a chance that the bottom
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three teams in the NFC North finished with the same exact
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record of 8:00 and 9:00. Which is insane.
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Which if you would have told me when the Vikings were one and
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four that they have a chance to be 8:00 and 9:00, I'm super
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pumped. I'm super happy about that.
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And then we tell you also that, Oh yeah.
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And by the way, the Packers and the Bears could also be 8:00 and
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9:00, yeah? Yeah, I wish.
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I wish I could go back in time and talk to August Austin and
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just be like, dude, you're you're in for it this year.
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Like so much stuff is gonna happen that so much that you're
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gonna forget half of it right at the New Year, and it's still
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gonna be terrible. Just go back and listen to our
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podcast. Oh man, sorry.
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Past Austin this This season sucks for you.
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And all that to say, there is still a very small minute, never
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gonna happen outside chance that the Vikings make the postseason.
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Those those odds are very small, yes.
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The map, the road map to get there, though, has been laid out
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by Dustin Baker. Yeah, friend of the show, Dustin
17:26
Baker. So the Vikings have to win, The
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Bears have to be Green Bay, which if the Vikings win and the
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Bears win, that creates the three-way record tie in the NFC
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North for 2nd place. Which is absolutely dumb, and I
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don't know that that's ever happened, I'm sure.
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I'm sure it has. Has it?
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In the NFL, I'm sure that's probably not as crazy as you
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think, but it's still pretty crazy anyways, Vikings.
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Bears. Need to win.
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And then the Cardinals need to beat the Seahawks.
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Which the Cardinals beat. They just beat Philly.
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Philly, yeah. So anything's possible there.
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And then the Saints or the Bucks need to lose.
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Dustin Baker also tweeted and basically said if you put, I
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think you said $100 on that parlay bet maybe you said 10.
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No, he said 100. If you put $100 on all of those
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things to happen, it would pay out something like $4000.
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I put $5 on it. So so.
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You'll have to let us know how that.
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Happens. It's something like between 5:00
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and $600.00 payout. It's not going to happen.
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I've donated $5 to wherever sports gambling money goes to in
18:42
Iowa. But yeah, it was still, it'll
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still be fun to watch, and Can you imagine?
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I don't expect it. The Vikings are going to get
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like the 10th pick, and that's what it's going to be.
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Crazy. Well, with that, let's talk
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about the future and let's talk about what do they do right now
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before these final games of the season.
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The Vikings are sitting at the 12th pick, I think.
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Right, that's, I think I've heard that.
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Yeah, something like that. And I think they can fluctuate
19:11
up or down depending on what happens in Week 18 and depending
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on if they make the playoffs if they win.
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They could be as as bad as in the like low 20s or as good
19:25
depending on how you're looking at it as well.
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I think #9 is the highest they can get as a draft pick.
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So they're really, and I think that's a testament to the NFL as
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a whole this year that there's so many teams right around that
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500 ish area that there's a lot that can happen for the draft
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order. But yeah, I mean draft wise,
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really, that's that's a step ahead, quarterback wise.
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Against Detroit, we got Nick Mullins again and who knows how
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many snaps he'll get. Hopefully he plays the whole
20:01
game. Hopefully they they win and
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hopefully those other four things happen and we're talking
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about a playoff team. That's what I want.
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I want my team to win. That would be amazing.
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And they can figure the draft out later.
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I'm not saying quasi's going to figure it out and we're going to
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still end up with the 3rd pick and get the quarterback of the
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future. I don't care about that yet.
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I'm still this season's not done.
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So I'm hoping for the crazy not going to happen scenario to
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happen. The Vikings play, they win
20:29
against Detroit and they make the postseason.
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Although Detroit, they can still get as high as the number two
20:36
seed. So they do have a little bit to
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play for, but they need help. Yeah.
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It's not just win and get it. They've got to win and they need
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help from. Is it Dallas?
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Yeah, so Detroit, for them, to they they're basically locked
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into the number three seed right now, which would have them play
20:54
the, what, six seed in the playoffs, whoever that would be.
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But they could get as high as #2.
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And that's if Detroit wins and Dallas loses at Washington and
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Philadelphia loses at the New York Giants.
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I feel like that's a higher scenario than the Vikings making
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the playoffs more likely. Yeah, yeah, So all that to say,
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Detroit's, I think Dan Campbell even came out and said, like,
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yeah, starters are every Everyone's playing like we're
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still trying to win this game. So I respect that.
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So either way, it'll be Nick, Nick Mullins at Detroit.
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And then what? Then what do the Vikings do?
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I we kind of have essentially 3 categories of options, right?
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I think category one, which I wouldn't be mad about, is you
21:50
resign Kirk. So now we're talking next
21:54
season. Yeah, yeah, this is, this is
21:56
quarterback. After this season, you resign
22:00
Kirk, which is gonna be pricey. Even if he gives a hometown
22:04
discount, his hometown discount's gonna be like $30
22:07
million, like, if not more. And then it takes the immediate
22:13
pressure off of drafting the guy right away, trading up in the
22:16
draft, doing whatever you have to do to get anybody.
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Name any of the five or six top quarterbacks that are available
22:25
this year. Pennix.
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Knicks. Daniels.
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McCarthy. McCarthy.
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Yeah, any of them like that kind of takes a pressure off of
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having to get one of those right away.
22:35
So maybe you still draft a quarterback, but it doesn't have
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to be in the top ten of the first round.
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But even in that scenario, if you sign Kirk and you kind of
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draft a quarterback, maybe the 2nd tier guy, you should still
22:50
sign somebody else to be the back up, right?
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Because as of right now, Jaron Hall is the only quarterback
22:56
that's under contract for next season.
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Everybody else, their deal ends. So I don't know what are your
23:03
thoughts on that kind of a scenario.
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You're so to recap, you're saying Kirk walks, They draft.
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A guy in Hall stays as the backup.
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In the the first one I just said it was Sein.
23:17
Kirk sein Kirk OK. And then either Hall is your #2
23:21
or you resign Mullins or, who knows, Garner, Minshew or
23:26
something like that. Some kind of a a number two guy
23:29
that you sign and then you you draft a guy maybe with less
23:35
pressure to be the top guy. Maybe you draft defense with
23:39
your first pick, and then you look at quarterback elsewhere.
23:43
I think I've said this before and I'll stick to my guns.
23:47
I think Kirk is the quarterback that's going to bring the
23:51
Vikings the most success given the current coaching staff, the
23:56
current roster, and I know the roster will change next year,
24:00
but the the, the bones of it will remain largely the same,
24:06
especially on offense. I think the defense will change
24:10
a lot. I think, Oh dear, there's mean a
24:12
lot of turnover there. Yeah, there definitely could be.
24:15
But I think Kirk Cousins is your guy to get you to the playoffs
24:21
if that's what you want. And I don't know any Vikings
24:25
fans out there that don't want the Vikings in the playoffs.
24:28
There's a lot right now saying they don't want them in.
24:30
They're rooting for a loss against Detroit this week.
24:32
Right. And yeah, it's it's been a tough
24:36
six weeks. We've dropped five out of six
24:39
games. The only win was that 3 nothing
24:44
win against the Raiders. Which I don't know how that
24:47
happened after seeing the Raiders since then, but.
24:50
Yeah. Anyways, yeah, in my eyes, Kirk
24:55
is the answer and he proved that until he got hurt.
24:59
And we will always talk about this season and always wonder
25:03
what could have been if that hadn't have happened.
25:06
I mean, we were rolling against the Packers before he went down
25:11
at Lambeau Field. Yeah, I think that's one of the
25:13
few that was a win that wasn't A1 score game.
25:17
I think that was like one of two games, yeah, this season there
25:20
still. Wasn't 14 points, yeah.
25:22
One score other than this most recent pack.
25:28
But anyways, yeah, Kirk's your Kirk's my guy going forward now
25:35
I don't necessarily have an opinion on sign them for a year,
25:39
sign them for two years. Sign them longer than that.
25:43
You know I understand that there are a lot of logistics to be
25:49
worked out that way. I I saw something out there
25:53
today that his dead cap hit for next season.
25:57
It's pretty lofty. Yeah, he's still an expensive
26:00
player for the Vikings no matter what.
26:02
Even if he's gone so and again in my eyes, why not keep him?
26:10
I mean, he proved that he can play at a high level and I think
26:13
he'll come back from this injury and.
26:16
I was going to ask you your thoughts on that too, if that's
26:19
if the injury itself, because it sounds like you're not concerned
26:21
about his quality of play through the injury after he
26:26
comes back. I'm really not, especially when
26:28
you consider the fact that he's a pocket quarterback.
26:31
He's a pocket passer. He's not a Lamar Jackson.
26:34
He's not a Michael Vick. He's not.
26:37
He's not a running back, right? He's not just in fields, right?
26:41
So he doesn't have to put as much pressure on his leg and on
26:47
his Achilles to move around. Yeah, there will always be that
26:52
kind of like fear in the back of his mind, in the back of his
26:57
coach's mind, our minds, his fans.
27:00
Like, you know. I just remember in Adrian
27:04
Peterson's comeback year, 2012, 2012, every time he got tackled,
27:09
I Remember Me like always singing like, oh, are you OK,
27:11
man. And he always was.
27:13
He had the second best running back season of all time that
27:17
year. But.
27:18
Yeah, well, I'm sitting here looking at this poster that my
27:20
sister and my brother-in-law made for me for my birthday this
27:23
year, and I'm reminded of one of the few Kirk Cousins rushing
27:28
touchdowns. Oh yeah, And we witnessed it
27:31
together from a similar angle in the stadium.
27:36
Yeah, we were right up in that corner there.
27:38
And yeah, it was against the Cardinals in 2022.
27:43
I don't know that he makes plays like that.
27:45
Yeah, moving forward, knowing just kind of the conservative
27:49
player that he is already, he's going to be much more reluctant
27:53
to run the ball himself unless there's like a gap the size of a
27:58
Mack truck that you can just, you know, plow your way through
28:02
and get a first down or whatever.
28:04
But I think given his style of play, the injury won't really
28:12
matter. And I think he's got, I don't
28:14
know, five years of football left in him, give or take.
28:18
Could definitely could. I wouldn't be mad with that
28:21
scenario, but there's a few other ones.
28:23
You actually in our notes you put a really good tweet if you
28:26
want to kind of give a gist of. That yeah, so Jason 777.
28:31
He's the self-proclaimed Twitter CEO of Arizona, I believe
28:34
according to his profile. But he's really active on
28:37
Vikings Twitter and I've appreciated a lot of his stuff.
28:41
So he's got three different QB scenarios going into 2024 and
28:46
he's given them some some creative titles.
28:49
So his first is Back to the future.
28:52
And he says don't resign. Kirk, draft a top quarterback,
28:57
Sign a cheap veteran. So that would be like your
29:00
Gardner, Minshew or whoever would be available to kind of
29:06
bridge the gap, likely take a step back in 24.
29:12
But it would lead to significant cap space and flexibility for
29:15
future years with the hopes of the quarterback that we draft
29:22
kind of learning and acclimating quickly.
29:24
And you said he has three scenarios here.
29:26
I don't know if he's saying like in order what he would want or
29:30
what he thinks will happen. He's just kind of outlining some
29:34
possible scenarios the Vikings could go down.
29:36
He did say in the comments below which one he thought was the
29:40
worst, and I'll tell you what that one is in a minute.
29:44
The second one is chips all in. And he says basically the plan
29:48
since 2018 was to keep Kirk draft defense and plan to win.
29:55
Right now it would limit cap space after key extensions,
29:59
which we know because Danielle Hunter's going to get paid or
30:04
needs to be paid, especially after being voted to the Pro
30:08
Bowl today, one of two Vikings, which that seems hilariously
30:13
low. And JJ, of course will need to
30:18
be paid as well, he says. He continues here.
30:24
It would make free agency a challenge.
30:26
It would require near perfection in the draft, and running this
30:30
back again would likely mean the fan base will be livid if it
30:33
doesn't work next season, Because it does, Everyone's
30:36
ecstatic. It's a very.
30:37
Polarizing. Can you imagine if they bring
30:40
Kirk back and he's? We go 8:00 and 9:00 again.
30:44
Well, not even that. But if if he is a full season of
30:47
the first four weeks of this 23 season, like if he comes back at
30:52
a big number and just isn't it there, he just throws
30:56
interceptions and is awful. I'm not expecting that to
30:59
happen, but Can you imagine? Oh my gosh.
31:02
Yeah, that would be terrible. Now and later is the last
31:08
scenario here and I think this is probably where I would land
31:12
middle ground for both of the previous options.
31:15
Bring back Kirk on a short and team friendly deal.
31:18
Draft a future QB in the first and try to be as competitive as
31:23
possible in 24 with development focus for the young quarterback
31:27
behind the scenes Would bring cat flexibility in 2526 when the
31:33
new quarterback is ready to take over.
31:36
To me that seems like the best option.
31:40
So the the chips all in was Jason's.
31:44
The chips all in the the idea of bringing Kirk back, basically
31:48
doing the plan since Kirk. Came here?
31:51
Yep, Just keep resigning them to a couple of years at a time.
31:54
Yep. And I think in that one he he
31:57
outlines not drafting, not drafting a quarterback.
32:01
Which would mean the deal that Kirk signs would not be team
32:04
friendly. It would be a savvy businessman,
32:08
Kirk Cousins. I'm going to maximize whatever I
32:10
can get out of this organization because that's the type of
32:13
businessman. And and good for him, Yeah, but
32:18
and ultimately I think Kirk is going to get paid this offseason
32:23
and good for him. But he is not going to sign for
32:27
$20 million anywhere. Like unless there's some crazy
32:32
like Shohei Ohtani deal that they figure out how to sign him
32:36
for 20 this year and give him a million a year for the next 100
32:40
years or something. Like, I don't know, but he's
32:42
going to get paid. And I think the most likely
32:46
place for him to take, quote UN quote, less money is with
32:51
Minnesota. But like I said, I think that
32:53
less money. Is not going to be much.
32:56
Less It's at least 30, right? Like, and I'm not smart on all
33:00
this. I'm not super knowledgeable on
33:01
everything. But like I mean these
33:03
quarterbacks are signing. Look at.
33:05
I mean, yes, it's always the best quarterback signing mega
33:08
deals. But like Jackson and Hertz last
33:11
year, and they both signed at one point when they signed the
33:15
biggest deals in NFL history, Kirk is going to get paid.
33:19
He's going to get money. So I'd be happy if Kirk was the
33:23
quarterback, but I don't know if that would be the healthiest
33:29
thing for money wise for the Vikings.
33:31
I think a one year contract would make a lot of sense,
33:35
especially after the injury and Kirk's and and Kirk's people
33:39
probably would push back against that because there's less
33:42
stability there, less of a guarantee.
33:45
But even if it's a one year deal, he still has money on the
33:50
books for a couple seasons from now.
33:52
I think it's not just next year that he's got dead money on the
33:55
books. And I don't know how that works
33:57
as far as, like, getting paid. I know he gets paid, but I it's
34:01
just like spreading out the actual idea of those dollars.
34:05
But I think the contract that he's on right now, they kind of
34:09
mortgaged the future a little bit and said yeah, you're going
34:12
to your contract will expire March 31st of 24, but we'll keep
34:17
paying you until 25 or 26 or. However that the cap works,
34:21
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know.
34:25
I don't know if signing him is the smartest idea I would tend
34:32
to lead towards. Do everything you can to get the
34:38
guy you think is the best quarterback in the draft this
34:40
year, and even if that means mortgaging your draft picks of
34:44
the future and however high you need to get to get that guy.
34:50
Maybe the guy you want is not widely seen as as the best guy.
34:55
Maybe they want Jaden Daniels, but the number one clear cut
34:59
pick is going to be Pennix or what, whoever it is.
35:03
So maybe they can afford to be at like, yeah, be at like the
35:07
345 spot, but if you have to give three first round picks to
35:12
get there, like if that's your guy, go do it, because picks are
35:15
cheaper than one year of Kirk. True.
35:21
It's just that's a huge disadvantage if you miss.
35:26
If you get your guy and he's the one you wanted and you mortgage
35:30
the future as far as draft picks goes and then he's terrible.
35:34
That's that's a bad and. That's where, like to me, the
35:37
gamble and the draft just isn't worth it.
35:40
And you can go back in the history of the Vikings
35:44
organization and look at all of the terrible picks like
35:48
Christian Ponder's probably at the top of.
35:50
That list that seemed like a a panic pick, but like.
35:55
There. He's not the only one.
35:57
He's not the only quarterback that was drafted way higher than
36:02
he should have been and turned out to be a gigantic bust for
36:06
the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, I mean, even Teddy
36:08
Bridgewater. Yeah, and that was really no
36:12
fault of his own. It wasn't that he was a bad
36:14
player, he was actually a really good.
36:16
Player. He was starting to blossom a
36:17
little bit and his knee disintegrated.
36:19
Yeah. And he's not been the same
36:21
player since and I think he's retiring.
36:23
I think he's he announced that he's done at the end of the
36:25
season. He's with Detroit, right?
36:28
He might be, Yeah, I think he is.
36:31
But yeah, I don't know. We haven't seen, I guess we've
36:36
seen our GM draft a quarterback once already, but he was 1/5
36:40
rounder in Jaron Hall. And if you're drafting a
36:43
quarterback in the fifth round, that's not typically Tom Brady
36:48
like, right. It's a it's a flyer that you're
36:50
taking and you're basing it off film and off based off of the
36:56
little bit of playing time he's had this year, Jaren Hall.
36:58
It hasn't worked and I don't. Foresee.
37:02
Him being a starter, I think his ceiling is Josh Dobbs, which is
37:07
not a great place to be agreed. Well, there's a lot of
37:13
interesting scenarios moving forward and we're on opposite
37:17
sides of the fence, which is fine, but we don't sit in those
37:23
chairs and we don't make those decisions.
37:25
And Vikings fans should be very happy that it's neither one of
37:28
us making those decisions, because I'm I'm happy to be a
37:32
fan. You you, you have to think that
37:35
Quasi is probably not probably he.
37:38
He is carefully examining as much game film as he can for any
37:46
and all of those top guys. Pennix, Bonex, Jayden Daniels,
37:52
JJ McCarthy. I mean, the list goes on.
37:54
It's a very rich quarterback draft class.
37:58
I've seen mock drafts that have like 3 or 4 quarterbacks going
38:03
in the 1st 5 picks. I mean it's.
38:05
The top 10 is going to be heavy quarterbacks.
38:07
Yeah, it's crazy. So, and the Vikings may be one
38:10
of those. He's he's going to do his
38:12
homework. He's he's going to walk into the
38:17
Vikings draft room on draft day with a lot of knowledge,
38:23
hopefully Whether or not he's able to make the right call or
38:30
not. That remains to be seen, and
38:34
Kirk's contract has to be figured out before that.
38:36
Yeah, yeah, there's. I sent you an article from I
38:40
think June is when it was written.
38:43
Basically the window to be able to franchise tag a player opens
38:50
and closes before Kirk's contract officially expires.
38:57
And apparently the way the way rules out work out with all of
39:00
that is your contract has to be expiring or already have expired
39:07
or some weird status of expiring in order for you to be eligible
39:12
to be franchise tagged. So one I don't.
39:15
So Kirk has a no trade clause in his contract.
39:19
I don't think there's anything about not being able to be
39:21
franchise tagged in the wording of his contract, but I think
39:25
just the timing of when his his contract actually voids because
39:29
it's before the end of the league year, but it's still
39:33
active during a weird part. Essentially, he cannot be
39:37
franchise tagged at all. Like that's really interesting
39:40
actually. And the article even pointed out
39:44
to money wise, even if he were eligible to to be franchise
39:48
tagged, it would be based off of like a $36 million salary plus
39:54
like 60% more because it would be like his third time being
40:00
tagged. And you get a percentage higher
40:02
every time you're tagged, not just with one team throughout
40:05
your entire career. So it would be a crazy amount of
40:11
money like 60 million, what's what's 60% of 30?
40:17
I mean, I'm almost almost 20. So I mean you're probably
40:21
looking almost $50 million just to franchise him if that even
40:25
had been an option, which it's not, so.
40:28
Yeah, I mean, you're not franchise tagging him.
40:32
If he's going to be the quarterback for the Vikings next
40:35
year, more than likely we will know that before the end of the
40:39
league year. And if we don't know it by then,
40:43
there's going to be teams competing to sign him because
40:45
somebody will sign him. I mean, who's a quarterback,
40:48
man? Who is it?
40:50
Pretty much any team in the AFC because like half of the AFC
40:55
teams ended up at least starting a different quarterback than
40:59
they started the season with in some point during the year.
41:01
I mean, the Falcons who are an NFC team, come to mind for me.
41:05
The Steelers come to mind from Atlanta.
41:07
Yeah, so there's gonna be other teams that are at least going to
41:11
look. So there's going to be
41:13
competition and anytime there's competition, that price just
41:17
goes a little bit higher. Yeah, it's just it's not going
41:21
to be easy and or cheap to sign Kirk, which is why that's not my
41:26
initial want as a fan, just because I know it mortgages the
41:30
rest of the team. But as a player, Oh my gosh,
41:34
he's, he's great and I'd love to have him as a quarterback.
41:36
It's just I don't think it makes the most sense when it comes to
41:40
the dollars. So we'll see.
41:43
Again, great thing that we don't have to make that decision.
41:46
We just get to watch the games and drink and complain and you
41:50
guys get to hear us quote, UN quote, argue about it on our
41:53
podcast. Well, there's yeah, there's a
41:56
lot to to figure out between now and the draft for sure.
42:01
And then what they do in the draft will be a whole other
42:03
thing. And we'll definitely be talking
42:05
about the draft on future episodes when we get.
42:08
Maybe as maybe as early as a week from now, Yeah, although in
42:13
the playoffs I think we're gonna kind of turn into a a playoff
42:18
type podcast. Like we're always gonna be
42:20
Vikings focused, but we'll. Talk about the games that have
42:23
happened and you've been You've been having fun posting some tik
42:28
toks and things, mostly injuries, but other kind of
42:31
funny and crazy things that have happened that you've noticed
42:35
during NFL games, and college games for that matter.
42:38
Yeah, well, the college was really just the couple of games
42:40
and then the playoffs there. But yeah, those injury ones,
42:44
they seem to do well on TikTok. I don't know.
42:46
Me and the other 7 million people that watch that video
42:50
seemed to like having gruesome injuries happened right in front
42:54
of him, so. That one was especially.
42:56
Bad that That's why I got 6.9 million views.
43:00
Keaton Mitchell's knee, just like, went a different
43:04
direction, went the other way. Yeah, it was bad.
43:08
But yeah, we'll still, we'll still be doing episodes
43:11
throughout the play offs, regardless of if the Vikings are
43:15
there or not. We still got one more game.
43:17
Season's not dead. Play offs aren't completely out
43:21
of reach. They're mostly out of reach.
43:24
It would be a crazy scenario, but it could happen.
43:27
Crazier things have happened. The Vikings were down one time,
43:30
33 to nothing against the Indianapolis Colts one time.
43:34
And what happened there of? Brian left.
43:38
That's what happened. Brian left.
43:40
Thanks, Brian. You left, and it It enabled the
43:43
Vikings to mount the biggest comeback in NFL history before.
43:49
If I go to sleep tonight, I'm ordering that commemorative
43:53
plaque. Are you really?
43:55
I'm going to. I'm going to we're.
43:57
Gonna hang it in here somewhere. It's a skull cave piece that has
44:00
to live here because we mentioned it just about every
44:03
episode. Speaking of, we have a new
44:05
edition here if you're watching us.
44:08
Big top ventures gifted us a signed purple Dante Culpepper
44:14
jersey a few weeks ago. Yeah, I think it was like 3 or 4
44:17
episodes. Ago now, and we now have it.
44:20
I don't think you can see it on Tiktok right now, but if you're
44:24
watching on YouTube or Spotify, right right above me here.
44:29
And maybe we'll take a picture and post up on Instagram too.
44:33
Yeah, Evan got a really nice case for it, and we've got it
44:36
mounted up on the wall. It looks beautiful.
44:39
Yeah, it looks pretty sharp. The display case came yesterday.
44:43
Yeah. And so got that out-of-the-box.
44:46
And I was actually nervous. So it's like, I hope this didn't
44:49
get damaged. The box was kind of looking a
44:51
little raggedy. Was it Amazon?
44:53
Yeah, that can happen. Sometimes so, but it was OK.
44:56
It it turned out all right and it looks it looks sharp.
44:59
I'm pleased with how it looks. Yeah, I like it a lot.
45:02
Yeah, it's beautiful. Thanks Big Top for the the cool
45:07
piece. Cool addition to the school
45:09
cave. It's nice.
45:10
We have two signed jerseys now in the school cave.
45:14
Yeah, I say we they're they're yours.
45:16
Well. They they will.
45:19
They will always be a part of this.
45:20
Yes. So yes, they will.
45:23
All right, So the Lions game, I think there's some points we
45:25
should probably bring up. Well, we say this and you put
45:29
this in here every freaking week.
45:33
Yeah, key point number one is don't turn the ball over.
45:36
Don't turn the ball over. And we say it every freaking
45:38
week. Can we just Nah, do that?
45:41
Yeah, that'd be great if you could just not give the ball to
45:44
the other team. Insert quarterback's name here.
45:48
Insert quarterback's name here. Talking to Toby, like, can you
45:51
just can you just be cool Just this once?
45:53
Just be cool. Serious.
45:57
Yeah, so if they can. And my point that I made many,
46:01
many, many weeks ago is still holding true.
46:04
If they go a full game without committing a turnover, they will
46:08
win. They won every game.
46:10
I think it's like 2 that they haven't given the ball away.
46:15
So if they can not turn the ball over, I mean numbers say they're
46:20
gonna win, what else we got? We gotta.
46:23
Establish the run game, Which an interesting development happened
46:28
yesterday. I think Dalvin Cook was released
46:32
by The Jets. It sounds like it was an
46:34
amicable split. Yeah, I think he was just saying
46:36
guys, let me go. Maybe I can latch on with the
46:39
playoff team. You're not using me, Yeah.
46:42
So I'm not saying the Vikings pick him up this week, but let's
46:44
say the Vikings do squeak their way into the playoffs.
46:48
You look at bringing Dalvin Cook back for a playoff run.
46:52
I mean, I don't think it's a terrible idea.
46:53
He had a decent year last year. He was just expensive.
46:58
I think he was gonna cost like almost $15 million this year.
47:01
Well. This would be the way to do it
47:02
with Alvin Cook. I mean, if you can get him on a
47:04
dime after The Jets have kind of chewed him up and spit him out
47:08
and he's healthy and ready to play.
47:10
And I think Tom Pellicero said he's got fresh legs for not
47:14
being utilized too much. And then Arif Hassan was like,
47:16
what do you mean fresh? Like if he was good, he would
47:18
have been used. Like, he just kind of laughed at
47:21
the idea of fresh legs. But I don't know.
47:24
And there's also the like. I think there's some specific
47:27
rules as far as waiver claims and who can be signed after
47:34
being cut. There might be something, even
47:37
if the Vikings were to crazy sneak into the playoffs and he
47:41
was still, excuse me, still a free agent after these next few
47:46
games or this next week of games.
47:48
I think there might be some kind of weird NFL rule that he
47:52
couldn't be signed. I don't know enough about that
47:55
to be sure, but there could be something about that.
47:58
I think if you make the playoffs and he's still out there and
48:01
it's allowed, he at least talk about it, right?
48:05
He's a good player. It's just for whatever reason he
48:07
couldn't get on the field. I don't see it happening,
48:11
though. Like, definitely not if you
48:13
don't make the playoffs, and then maybe if you do, but I
48:16
don't know. Either way, the Vikings run game
48:19
needs some help. Yes, it it needs a lot of help,
48:22
especially if you're we've already said this, but your
48:24
leading rusher on the season hasn't found the end zone.
48:27
Yeah, like what? What is going on?
48:30
Yeah, yeah, it's terrible. And and that's another thing to
48:34
look at heading into next year. I don't think, I I think it
48:38
would be insanely dumb to go into next year with your plan
48:43
for the number one running back to still be Alex Madison agreed.
48:48
But that's a topic for another time.
48:50
Well, and that could be a draft pick too.
48:52
I mean, yeah, there's there's a few good options out.
48:56
There and running backs are cheap.
48:57
I'm, I mean, don't pay running backs maybe.
49:00
Maybe Dalvin's an an option for next year.
49:04
He's starting to get up there and obviously it didn't work out
49:06
for you know The Jets this year. So maybe that's not a good idea.
49:10
But you never know, yeah. That's an interesting
49:13
possibility, though. Yeah, definitely.
49:15
I mean, I didn't expect him to be released.
49:18
I think we all expected Aaron Rodgers to be healthy and Dalvin
49:21
Cook to be kind of the balance to that offense.
49:25
You know, Aaron's going to light it up whenever he takes the
49:28
field and then when you need some running plays here and
49:31
there. Here's Dalvin Cook, who had a
49:33
great career in Minnesota and he's, I think he's still very
49:37
capable. Definitely could be, yeah.
49:39
But anyways, the last key to success here.
49:43
Against the Lions. Defense.
49:45
Yeah, which defense shows up? Is it going to be the defense
49:48
that held, apparently an offensive juggernaut in the
49:52
Raiders to zero points? Or is it going to be the defense
49:56
that let Jordan Love look like the third coming of a Hall of
49:59
Fame quarterback for Green Bay? I mean, I I don't.
50:04
I don't know. It's been very bipolar.
50:07
Yeah, and on the defensive front, I mean, this very well
50:12
could be Harrison Smith's last game as a Viking.
50:14
I hope not. He does seem like a guy that
50:17
would take just stupid cheap deal just to stay in Minnesota.
50:20
He did it. Not that he should, but he seems
50:22
like he might. He did it this.
50:24
Year. Yeah, yeah.
50:26
I don't know. There's a lot.
50:27
You mentioned it earlier today. There's a lot of question marks
50:30
for the defense. As much as you're questioning
50:32
the quarterback situation, almost every position group on
50:37
the defense has major question marks for next year.
50:40
But yeah, for Detroit, who's who's showing up?
50:43
I don't know. Does Anthony have argued on the
50:46
field more than he has in the few games that he's been back
50:50
with the Vikings? I honestly haven't even paid
50:52
attention to that. I know he was signed to the
50:53
active or the 53 man roster before the Packer game, which
50:58
still holds true. I don't think he's been cut.
51:01
Maybe. I mean, I don't know if he made
51:06
the the field a bunch on the Packer game.
51:08
It didn't matter. I mean, the defense looked
51:11
horrible. True.
51:13
Yeah, I didn't. Really, pay attention that much
51:14
either. Yeah, but we'll see.
51:17
I don't know either way. All that to say, if they do end
51:21
up winning and the other four or five games go the way of the
51:25
Vikings and they squeak their way into the play offs, it's
51:28
probably not going to look great like you're probably either
51:31
playing Detroit. Well, it wouldn't be Detroit
51:33
because they wouldn't be the number two seed.
51:35
It would be like Philly or and it would be a Dallas.
51:39
It would be a road game. It would be ugly.
51:42
You're not going to win. But I still want them to get to
51:43
the playoffs. I still want it.
51:45
Yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm, I'm, I'm OK losing a wild
51:49
card game. That's fine.
51:51
Yeah, just get there because you never know.
51:54
Be a good. Consolation.
51:55
Yeah. But you never know.
51:56
Once you get there, you can't. You can't win the Super Bowl if
51:59
you don't get to the playoffs. If you get there, yeah, maybe.
52:02
It's unlikely, but at least you're in the dance.
52:05
Just get there. Yep.
52:06
Yep. Yeah, it'll be an interesting
52:10
game, and you mentioned it earlier.
52:13
The Lions still have something to play for, so it's not like
52:15
they've locked up the number one seed or locked up the number two
52:19
seed even. Like they're they're playing for
52:22
that too, I think. Yeah, And then number one has
52:24
already been locked up by San Fran, but they're not crazy out
52:29
of it for the number two seed, which I mean without the extra
52:33
bye week. Like, it's not like it helps
52:34
that much because it's just depending on who you're planning
52:38
playing it. Guarantees that they would play
52:40
at home for two weeks if they won.
52:42
If they won, yeah, I guess that's true.
52:44
So I think that's the big advantage.
52:48
And then, you know, if it did come down to a one and two, then
52:51
they'd have to travel to San Francisco.
52:55
But. Yeah, it's always good to be the
52:56
higher seed. Yep.
52:59
And so, yeah, they have something to play for.
53:02
And they're not just gonna put their B team out there and take
53:07
a loss to the Vikings. Yeah, and I I think even if they
53:11
were owing 16 right now, Dan Campbell wouldn't put a team out
53:16
there that wasn't gonna bite. Some kneecaps.
53:17
Yeah, if that guy, you know that first press conference he had
53:21
when he was hired and he was saying bite kneecaps and he just
53:24
looked like a meathead and whatever, super red face,
53:27
everybody made fun of him. And I did too.
53:31
And almost ever since, every time he has opened his mouth in
53:37
front of the media or done anything, I've just liked him a
53:41
little bit more. Like he seems like a player's
53:44
coach, a guy that can motivate people and he seems genuine.
53:48
The Lions have a good coach, and darn it, they might be a
53:52
problem. For a while they were this year,
53:56
they're the division champs. They.
53:57
Can't take that one last year too.
53:59
Oh yeah, yeah. They almost beat the Vikings in
54:01
the first game last year, too, when the Vikings came back and
54:03
won. But Oh well.
54:07
I like Dan Campbell as a as a guy.
54:08
He seems like a good coach. Lions fans have a lot to root
54:11
for. I agreed.
54:13
Well, it'll be an interesting game.
54:15
Yeah. It was kind of telling that the
54:17
league didn't do anything with that game in terms of timing and
54:22
what slot. It's a noon game, just normal
54:27
straight up, which I think actually helps the Vikings.
54:29
I think business as usual, no prime time game.
54:32
They still have to travel, and still to Detroit.
54:34
But but but it other than that it's business as usual right.
54:38
Like you show up you play. It is Eastern Time zone, but
54:42
that doesn't matter too much. I don't think, you know, like
54:48
they I I think maybe the league may have had their eye on this
54:52
one when they created the schedule and if it would have
54:56
come down to the division, they may have flexed that to a Sunday
54:59
night game or something like that to bring in that national
55:02
audience. But Nope, we get the we get the
55:06
regular old noon game on Sunday, which is fine.
55:10
I'm OK with that. That'll be good.
55:12
I was trying to figure out today how to rig Paul Allen's game
55:15
call through my my TV, but I don't think where we're located
55:20
it's even possible. Well, I remember like several
55:24
years ago being frustrated that I couldn't watch this was before
55:28
Sunday Ticket was more available than it is now.
55:34
But I remember like downloading like iHeartRadio and TuneIn or
55:40
something like that. Like these radio apps to tune
55:43
into K Fan because I knew they would have the the play call and
55:49
they blackout NFL games. It will.
55:52
But I think if you're in the market, like if we were in
55:55
Minneapolis and we pulled up the iHeartRadio app, like we'd be
55:58
able to listen. To it.
55:59
So if anybody out there has a tricky VPN strategy to Oh yeah,
56:03
maybe that's a Minneapolis IP address, we'd appreciate that.
56:08
We'd we'd take your your technology and apply it for
56:12
nothing. Nothing bad, no?
56:15
Yeah, just. It's just, I don't know who's
56:17
calling the Vikings game this week.
56:19
But I'll tell you what, if I ever have to hear Jonathan Vilma
56:23
announce a Vikings game ever again, I'll just watch it on
56:26
mute. I don't care.
56:27
I'll pull up Tom Grassi's live stream.
56:29
I don't. I don't care.
56:30
Tom Grassi, we like that guy. Yeah, we do.
56:33
We we owe Tom Grassi something a.
56:35
Little bit. He gave us a little foundation,
56:37
yeah. Yeah, he's a good guy.
56:39
And for as much as I detest his set of Packers stuff and.
56:47
It's probably inspired a little bit of the school cave.
56:49
It has a little bit, I'm not going to lie, yeah.
56:51
But I like listening to him. He's good.
56:54
Yeah, he's a he's a good character to follow.
56:57
Yep. What have you thought of the
56:59
back pocket gold coins? Well.
57:02
I'm down farther than you are. So it's been good.
57:06
It's been really good. It's just easy drinking.
57:10
It's nothing fancy. I'm not going to say that.
57:12
It's like the world's greatest beer ever.
57:15
But beer doesn't have to be. Feeds.
57:18
No, it's really good. I think it's a really good,
57:20
simple beer. And I think that's probably what
57:22
they were going for. Yeah, yeah, I like it a lot.
57:25
I will have more. It's a good one.
57:28
It's good stuff. Well, we've got a lot to look
57:31
forward to, even if the Vikings are done after Sunday.
57:37
The future, the future looks good.
57:39
There's there's some upside. There is upside, so.
57:43
We'll be We'll be optimistic about what could happen to our
57:47
favorite team, and we can also be slightly optimistic that
57:53
they'll squeak their way into the playoffs.
57:54
Too. That's still a chance.
57:55
Until it's out, it's a possibility.
57:58
Well, this has been fun. It's been a good beer.
58:02
Yeah, I think we're we're ready to close it out.
58:05
So till next time, let's go, let's go.
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