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INTERVIEW:Oregon OC Drew Mehringer, USC Under Pressure, 24-Team CFP, Top Transfer QBs & More · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We got Oregon's new offensive coordinator,
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Speaker 1: Drew Marriager in the building. I gotta ask him about
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six Ducks, how he got the job,
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Speaker 1: and then his interesting journey to this point.
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Speaker 2: When I fell and had my life saving brain surgery
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Speaker 2: as a sophomore. Number one, you realize that you can't
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Speaker 2: take anything for granted.
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Speaker 1: Iowa State's athletic director says that the Big Ten and
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Speaker 1: the SEC, if they want to threaten to break away,
0:27
Speaker 1: let him go on, go in and do your own thing,
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Speaker 1: since you think you're better than everybody else. And I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna explain to you why he is one hundred percent right.
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Speaker 1: It is time, says Lincoln Riley, because he is confident
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Speaker 1: that us he is ready for a college football playoff run.
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Speaker 1: Is he right or is he wrong? And did he
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Speaker 1: just put his foot in his mouth? The propaganda about
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Speaker 1: the twenty four team college football playoff proposal is massive
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Speaker 1: coming out of the Big Ten meetings, and now they're
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Speaker 1: talking about you guys know that eighty teams would have
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Speaker 1: made the college football Playoff if it started in twenty fourteen.
1:03
Speaker 1: Excuse me, how is that a good thing? How is
1:05
Speaker 1: that an exclusive club. Marshall Fall NFL legend head coach
1:10
Speaker 1: at Southern University, he made some comments about the route
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Speaker 1: for black head coaches in college football? Is he right
1:16
Speaker 1: or is he wrong? LSU? They have ed old geron
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Speaker 1: back Go Tigers, and we gotta talk about what LSU
1:23
Speaker 1: was doing and how this is a great move. And
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Speaker 1: we got to give you the top ten transfer portal
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks for this year coming up, that and more. Make
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Speaker 1: most importantly, tell a friend about the show about college
1:41
Speaker 1: football's greatest channel. Let's get to it. The best thing
1:55
Speaker 1: that I saw today former PAC twelve commissioner Larry Scott.
1:59
Speaker 1: He's out living the dream, living his best life. With
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Speaker 1: that severance package. He has now won his country club's
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Speaker 1: double tennis championship. Good job. And remember before the PAC twelve,
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Speaker 1: he came from the Women's Tennis Association and this is
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Speaker 1: what got him in trouble in the first place, is
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Speaker 1: that he thought that tennis and football should matter the
2:20
Speaker 1: same in the PAC twelve and that's where it all
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Speaker 1: went wrong. But good job, Larry, You're enjoying what you
2:27
Speaker 1: do the best. I'm not mad, I'm moving on. Iowa
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Speaker 1: States Athletic director. He says that the Big Ten and
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Speaker 1: the SEC, with all of these threats about breaking away,
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Speaker 1: we'll go do our own thing, make our own rules.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, be my guest. Now here's the thing. Capitalism
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Speaker 1: in sports does not work. And the leadership in college
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Speaker 1: football is right now run by mercenaries. And that is
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Speaker 1: number one, number two, number three, number four, number five
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Speaker 1: for these guys. Now, let me give you a perspective
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Speaker 1: on how all of this came about because Iowa States
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Speaker 1: Athletic Director Jamie Poler, he went to reporters this week
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Speaker 1: and this is per Brett McMurphy. He said, quote, let
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Speaker 1: them break away. In referring to the SEC and the
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Speaker 1: Big Ten, he said, we should break away from them,
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Speaker 1: let them go, but they have to go with all
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Speaker 1: their sports and see how fun it is to play baseball,
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Speaker 1: softball and track when it's just the twenty of you.
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Speaker 1: And he went on to say, I think that's what
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Speaker 1: we should do. But I'm one person and that probably
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Speaker 1: is a little more draconian. That's how I feel about it, Like,
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Speaker 1: let's quit talking about it, quit threatening, go do it.
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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna do it, don't You just don't
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Speaker 1: get to do it in football. Then keep all your
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Speaker 1: other sports with us, No, take them all. See how
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Speaker 1: fun it is. This comes off the heels of you know,
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Speaker 1: Kirk hurve Street and a lot of other people saying
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Speaker 1: that the power for schools should be its own organization.
3:50
Speaker 1: And he said in an interview with Front Office sports
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Speaker 1: like create their own world, create their own governing body.
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Speaker 1: Allow the group of four to create their own world.
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Speaker 1: This makes a lot of sense. Yeah, they're in a
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Speaker 1: different scenario, they're in a different budget, different tax recket.
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It won't solve the problem. The
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Speaker 1: leadership of college football is not taking care of college football.
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Speaker 1: They are taking care of themselves. Socialism works in sports,
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Speaker 1: and I know that that feels like an ekey word
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Speaker 1: to Americans who love capitalism, But the most successful leagues
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Speaker 1: operate in socialist societies. Essentially, the NFL, everybody pulls their
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Speaker 1: money together, pulls their media rights together, and then what
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Speaker 1: do they do. They disperse an equal amount to everybody.
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Speaker 1: And yes, you can make some more money with your
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Speaker 1: side deals in terms of your your sponsorships, your local
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Speaker 1: stuff and all of that, but in general, everybody is
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Speaker 1: made to eat, and that creates competition, and everybody has
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Speaker 1: to play by the same rules. You got every single
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Speaker 1: school operating on a micro level, trying to do what's
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Speaker 1: best for them, each conference doing but what's best for them.
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Speaker 1: And not only are they doing what's best for them,
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Speaker 1: they are actively trying to hurt the other people and
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Speaker 1: keep them down. And that's not the way to grow
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Speaker 1: college football. It's not the way to grow college sports
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Speaker 1: at all. The best way to do this and I've
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Speaker 1: said this a long time, and this is exactly why
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Speaker 1: the Score Act not getting pushed through and the leadership
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Speaker 1: sing help is not coming from the government. I love it.
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Speaker 1: It is the best possible thing because now the leadership
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Speaker 1: is going to be forced to do what they don't
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Speaker 1: want to do. Tony Patiti doesn't want to give up
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Speaker 1: any power, neither does Greg Saki. But there has to
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Speaker 1: be one entity, one commissioner, looking out for college football
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Speaker 1: and college sports in general and doing what's best for
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Speaker 1: them instead of what's best for one conference to make
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Speaker 1: more money but also stay above everybody else. That's not
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Speaker 1: good for growing the game and long term, and you
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Speaker 1: will kill the golden goose and instead of making college
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Speaker 1: football the second biggest sport in America behind the NFL. Now,
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Speaker 1: going back to what Kirk Kurbstreet said, he talked about
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Speaker 1: allowing the power forward to have their own playoff much
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Speaker 1: like the FCS and Division two and Division three. Just
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Speaker 1: create a new level which would be the power for
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Speaker 1: then create a new governing body, put in a commissioner.
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Speaker 1: But the issue is is that you're not going to
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Speaker 1: be able to get a CBA and all of that
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Speaker 1: if you do that. And this is where the issue
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Speaker 1: is is that all of the people that signed the
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Speaker 1: House versus the NCAA settlement, all the conferences were on board,
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Speaker 1: but then as soon as it gets put into place,
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Speaker 1: everybody is trying to find rules against it, ways around it,
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Speaker 1: how to break it, and have no enforcement as well.
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Speaker 1: Come on, now, man, I do believe Iowa was ad.
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Speaker 1: Pollard is one hundred percent right in the fact that
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Speaker 1: he understands that fans are fans of the laundry. They
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Speaker 1: are not trying to see a league that's separated from
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Speaker 1: the nc double as It's like they can't hear the
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Speaker 1: pushback from fans about the lack of rules, the lack
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Speaker 1: of enforcement, wanting things back the old way, and not
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Speaker 1: mind you, the two pace is not getting put back
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Speaker 1: into two. But you can be proactive in keeping college
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Speaker 1: sports that way. You're not losing women's sports, you're not
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Speaker 1: losing additional sports that get people scholarships that turn out
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Speaker 1: to be the top. Lock the lawyers, doctors, engineers, and
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Speaker 1: all sorts of other people out in the world. You
7:35
Speaker 1: can't lock that door up either. It's like the Bible says, right,
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Speaker 1: money is not the root of all evil. It is
7:41
Speaker 1: the love of money that is the root of all evil,
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Speaker 1: and greed is one of the seven deadly sins. Greed
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Speaker 1: is what is driving a lot of these decisions right now.
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Speaker 1: Think about how it works in real life. If you
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Speaker 1: have mobsters, gangsters, any of this, and they're ruling people
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Speaker 1: with fear, Eventually what happens. People get tired of being
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Speaker 1: under their thumb. And that's exactly what is happening right
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Speaker 1: now now. This isn't like when conservative people in Kentucky
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Speaker 1: or West Virginia or Mississippi say that they be happier
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Speaker 1: if California or New York left the Union so they're
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Speaker 1: not subjected to their liberal policies. Those states actually can't
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Speaker 1: survive without the surplus that comes from the coastal states
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Speaker 1: that they say that they hate so much. The Big
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Speaker 1: twelve could absolutely stand on its own, and so could
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Speaker 1: the ACC. That's the difference. But nobody wants that. Nobody
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Speaker 1: wants to march madness that doesn't include all the conferences.
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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to have a college football playoff that doesn't
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Speaker 1: include the best the best representatives from each of the
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Speaker 1: power for conferences. But doing what nobody wants it clearly
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Speaker 1: seems to be a trend amongst all the decision makers
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Speaker 1: these days. So we'll see how this shakes out. And
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Speaker 1: it is highly frustrated to be going through this over
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Speaker 1: and over and over again. Now speaking to people who
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Speaker 1: are tired of going through things over and over again,
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Speaker 1: that is USC fans. Lincoln Riley, he has come out
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Speaker 1: and said, Yep, it is time. It is time for
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Speaker 1: USC to be back on top. Guess what, I one
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent agree with you, Lincoln Riley. It is
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Speaker 1: time for USC. The time is now. Actually, as a
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Speaker 1: matter of fact, we've been waiting for a very long time.
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Speaker 1: It has been time and the idea that it is
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Speaker 1: you know, five years into this thing and you're just
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Speaker 1: now saying that you tore it down to the studs
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Speaker 1: and rebuilt it up when a lot of people have
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Speaker 1: done it significantly faster. That's a whole another conversation at
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten spring meetings, he leaned into this hole
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Speaker 1: that the window is finally open campaign, and he explained
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Speaker 1: why he believes that USC is ready to be a
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Speaker 1: college football playoff contender. He said, quote, the program is
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Speaker 1: taking steps not only in talent acquisition, but building the roster.
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Speaker 1: There's also teaching them to win and the progression that
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Speaker 1: come with that. The way, the best way to look
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Speaker 1: at this is that there are different levels of teachers.
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Speaker 1: Some people, you know, they teach the AP students and
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Speaker 1: some people teach the regular classes. And apparently the regular
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Speaker 1: classes not if advancing as fast as some of the
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Speaker 1: other coaches who have been who are teaching AP level
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Speaker 1: stuff right now. And then he went on to say,
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Speaker 1: I know I've seen the real steps that we've taken
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Speaker 1: on the field. I've seen the signs off the field,
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Speaker 1: and we're close. We were close enough last year to
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Speaker 1: taste it, I mean literally snaps away from being right
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Speaker 1: in it. I know we have absolutely taken steps when
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Speaker 1: coaches start to say things like we were five plays away,
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Speaker 1: we were three plays away, we were nine plays away.
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Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. How does that usually
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Speaker 1: work out for them? Historically? It doesn't because those are excuses,
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Speaker 1: like I've heard them say that about the Oregon game. Oh,
10:52
Speaker 1: we were just the plays away. Those were two heavyweight teams.
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Speaker 1: Anybody who watched the game new that Oregon had that
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Speaker 1: game in hand and handily the entire game. And that's
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Speaker 1: the difference and the delusion that he needs to get
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Speaker 1: passed because this quote that he's saying it shows a
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Speaker 1: couple of things. Is that he believes that he has
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Speaker 1: the type of momentum to go out there and call
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Speaker 1: his shot. And I believe that he has to do
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Speaker 1: this because he knows that if he does not make
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Speaker 1: the college football playoffs this year, the heat will be on.
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Speaker 1: Even though he signed the number one class in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six, has a really good class in twenty twenty seven,
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Speaker 1: he's very aware that he is going to be hyper
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Speaker 1: critical of it. But it feels like that he's trying
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Speaker 1: to do a costplay of Kurt Signetti, where Kurt Signetti,
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Speaker 1: all I do is win. We're not here to lose.
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Speaker 1: Difference is Kurt Signetti was able to back it up
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Speaker 1: in quick order. And it seems like Lincoln Riley has
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Speaker 1: been doing a cool Runnings impersonation when the guys in
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Speaker 1: the bathroom and he wasn't very confident and he's got
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Speaker 1: You'll Brenner next to him, and he's gone. I see pop,
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Speaker 1: I see power. I see a badass mother who won't
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Speaker 1: take no crap off of nobody. The window should always
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Speaker 1: be open for USC. It should always be time. It's
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Speaker 1: like when people say it's time for a new Rihanna album. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's been over ten years. Her fans are starving. When
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Speaker 1: you're one of the biggest artists on Earth, the best
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Speaker 1: time to make music and to make artists today. USC
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Speaker 1: is not LSU and it's not Auburn because they seem
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Speaker 1: to put together an absolute monstrosity of a team once
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Speaker 1: a decade, even though that they are a premier program
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Speaker 1: in a premier recruiting territory. But this is USC. They're
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Speaker 1: being coached by somebody with three Heisman Trophy winners on
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Speaker 1: his resume. He didn't get hired to spend five years
12:46
Speaker 1: trying to jimmy a window open he wasn't paid more
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Speaker 1: than ninety nine percent of coaches on a ten year
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Speaker 1: deal for a slow build, to build a culture at
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Speaker 1: a school that has watched three of its old Pac
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Speaker 1: twelve conference mates make one or more college Football playoff
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Speaker 1: appearances in the time that Lincoln Riley has been in
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Speaker 1: charge of USC. That's not what they paid for. So
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Speaker 1: guess what, Lincoln Riley, you better be right. If you
13:12
Speaker 1: know me, you know I am not a fan of
13:14
Speaker 1: the air raid four powerful programs. It's a gimmick offense
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Speaker 1: that should be used by the small guys to get
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Speaker 1: an advantage to be able to compete at a higher level.
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Speaker 1: And to me, Lincoln's Riley system it is literally the
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Speaker 1: James Harden of college football. The foul baiting, the high value,
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Speaker 1: mid range, you know, mid percentage three, that's all that matters.
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Speaker 1: Those gimmicks don't get you over the hump. They don't
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Speaker 1: get you championships, and especially with mediocre defense or mid defense.
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Speaker 1: Like there's no bigger example of that than TCU getting
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Speaker 1: treated like their Wafford or the Citadel in the National
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Speaker 1: Championship Game versus Georgia. It's just the truth. But USC
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Speaker 1: they do have momentum. It's very true. They have two
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Speaker 1: four seven's first non sec number one overall recruiting class
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, but they also had a
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Speaker 1: former five star defensive lineman in their program, have three
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Speaker 1: sacks and thirty two games, and go undrafted in Anthony Lucas.
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Speaker 1: Eric Gentry was a top twenty five transfer in the
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Speaker 1: country in twenty twenty two. He goes undrafted. The Trojans
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Speaker 1: only had one single one Big Ten All Defense selection
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Speaker 1: last year, and the Big Ten has three teams first
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Speaker 1: team second team in thirteen, the one guy that was
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Speaker 1: first team was a stud Bishop Fitzgerald, and he also
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Speaker 1: went undrafted. Now, in the final year of USC being
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Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve, they had the number ten scoring defense.
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Speaker 1: They are literally unseerious defensively, and I'm not sure that
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Speaker 1: Gary Patterson is the answer now he hasn't been a
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in a while, even though he's a very
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Speaker 1: highly thought up coach. And they might be able to
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Speaker 1: afford to convince, you know, some talented freshman to commit,
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Speaker 1: but eventually these guys are gonna want proof of the
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Speaker 1: concept that they can become a coveted NFL player and
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Speaker 1: not just getting the occasional dB like Jayalen Smith or
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Speaker 1: Jalen Bullock, but at the defensive line and at the
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Speaker 1: linebacker position. Cause six players from USC's front seven were
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Speaker 1: drafted in Clay Helton's last four years at USC, Lincoln
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Speaker 1: Riley has only had two two Y two y Plow
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Speaker 1: two he was a Clay Helton recruit, and then you
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Speaker 1: had Solomon Byrd who was a seventh rounder in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty three. And if you look at the other side
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Speaker 1: of the trenches, Lincoln Riley has only had three offensive
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Speaker 1: linemen drafted in four years, which does equal what Clay
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Speaker 1: Helton did in his last four years. But the difference
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Speaker 1: is is that Klay Helton produced two first rounders in
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Speaker 1: Austin Jackson and Elijah Vera Tucker, and Lincoln Riley hasn't
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Speaker 1: had an offensive lineman drafted above the sixth round. But
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Speaker 1: then you look at his twenty twenty sixth roster and
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Speaker 1: it's got some eye popping size. But that's the point
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Speaker 1: of having twenty two players on your roster over three
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Speaker 1: hundred pounds if you can't develop them. Now, with guys
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Speaker 1: this big, it shouldn't be that we're talking about opening windows.
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Speaker 1: We should be talking about busting through walls like the
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Speaker 1: Kool aid Man. But we'll see what Lincoln Riley does.
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Speaker 1: The Big Ten propaganda is now on max coming out
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Speaker 1: of their meetings because all the talking points from the reporters.
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Speaker 1: Do you know that there would have been eighty teams,
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Speaker 1: eighty out of one hundred and thirty would have made
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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff if it started in twenty fourteen?
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Speaker 1: The twenty fourteen Playoff eighty teams? How on earth is
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Speaker 1: that a talking point and a selling point that sounds
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Speaker 1: like mediocre? Just let any old body in. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. It doesn't, not even a
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Speaker 1: little bit. So why on earth is this being pushed
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Speaker 1: so hard? It goes back to the point that made
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Speaker 1: earlier that the Big Ten is only concerned about themselves.
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Speaker 1: A twenty four team playoff means that it is easier
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Speaker 1: access for the Big Ten, for more teams, and then
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Speaker 1: that will allow them to fully squash the SEC and
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Speaker 1: the Big twelve and the ACC and then try to
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Speaker 1: make the case that the SEC made we should get
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Speaker 1: more bids because we've had more championships, this, this, and this.
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Speaker 1: It's not what's best for the fans. The fans have
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Speaker 1: to be the biggest piece of what you are serving.
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Speaker 1: Do what's best for growing the game of college football
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Speaker 1: and not just growing the money in the short term.
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Speaker 1: This is a horrible decision, and you guys can weigh
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Speaker 1: in in the comments. Is it a good thing that
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Speaker 1: eighty teams would have made it over the last eleven years?
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Speaker 1: Because that sounds highly excessive considering that teams like Ohio
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Speaker 1: State and Georgia would have made it every single one
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Speaker 1: of those years. And I think the same thing with
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Speaker 1: Alabama two. But there are and full of teams that
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Speaker 1: would have made it damn near every single year. So
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Speaker 1: out of those eleven years, Oregon would have made it
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Speaker 1: like nine. Is that what's good for it? No, these
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Speaker 1: are just numbers that they throw out to try to
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Speaker 1: confuse you and to try to get you on their
18:15
Speaker 1: side to the points that they're making. Come on, man,
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Speaker 1: leave it in the comments. Are you in favor of
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Speaker 1: twelve teams or not? Another interesting thing is happening in
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Speaker 1: college football, and this is about black coaches because we
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Speaker 1: just had Marshall Falk who's now the head coach at Southern.
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Speaker 1: He hasn't even coached a game there yet, and he
18:32
Speaker 1: is making sure that he's making his voice known about
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Speaker 1: the state of black coaches in college football, and I
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Speaker 1: found it very interesting. We're gonna do a deeper dive
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Speaker 1: on this later, but he highlighted what he deems to
18:45
Speaker 1: be double standards considering former black players. He said football
18:50
Speaker 1: is the only sport that struggles to have players come
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Speaker 1: off the field and become a coach. He said they
18:57
Speaker 1: look at us like, if you're successful at playing the game,
19:00
Speaker 1: then you won't be as successful at the game in
19:03
Speaker 1: other capacities. But then he pointed out other examples. He said,
19:08
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, he can be a GM. You've had the
19:11
Speaker 1: Falcons hire Kevin Stefanski is their head coach, who had
19:16
Speaker 1: a worse record than Raheem Morris, who they fired. He
19:20
Speaker 1: talked about Josh McCown, who the Texans tried to hire
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Speaker 1: as their head coach, but there was so much pushback
19:27
Speaker 1: from assistant coaching, black, white, everything who were interviewing for jobs,
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Speaker 1: like what the hell are you doing. But then he
19:32
Speaker 1: noted also that we've had people like Steve Nash walk
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Speaker 1: straight off the street get a head coaching job, and
19:38
Speaker 1: the same thing has happened to other coaches in the
19:41
Speaker 1: world of basketball, and there is some frustration there. And
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Speaker 1: when you look at the fact that there have been
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Speaker 1: so many, like the amount of black players that play
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Speaker 1: college football, the amount that play NFL football, and then
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Speaker 1: try to get into coaching, but for some reason that
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Speaker 1: it is significantly harder for them to get offensive coordinator
20:03
Speaker 1: jobs and it is harder for them to get head
20:06
Speaker 1: coaching jobs now. For a long time that this was
20:09
Speaker 1: thought to go back to the idea that you know,
20:11
Speaker 1: when coaches didn't want black quarterbacks, they didn't want black
20:14
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because it was a thinking man's position and they
20:18
Speaker 1: didn't believe that black people had the cognitive intelligence and
20:21
Speaker 1: the cognitive processing to be able to be at that position.
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Speaker 1: So then the thought was, as you got more black quarterbacks,
20:29
Speaker 1: then you would have more black coordinators, then you would
20:32
Speaker 1: have more black head coaches. But for some reason, the
20:36
Speaker 1: goal post seems to shift and to move and it
20:38
Speaker 1: is harder to get those jobs. Now. Some people would
20:41
Speaker 1: point it to just flat out racism, right, and yes,
20:44
Speaker 1: there's probably an element of that, But how much of
20:47
Speaker 1: it is internal bias?
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Speaker 3: Right?
20:49
Speaker 1: How much of it is the bias that comes with
20:52
Speaker 1: things that are familiar to you that if you're going
20:55
Speaker 1: to go hire somebody and you and they remind you
20:58
Speaker 1: of your son, they remind you of your nephew, to
21:01
Speaker 1: remind you of your cousins, and you haven't really been
21:04
Speaker 1: in your life exposed or around in that closer proximity
21:08
Speaker 1: to people of color, then you might not understand or
21:12
Speaker 1: relate or understand what makes people tick, or understand exactly
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Speaker 1: what you're looking for. So that's the question, is it
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Speaker 1: racism or is it biased? You look at a situation
21:23
Speaker 1: like what happened at Ole Miss Pete Golding. He takes
21:26
Speaker 1: the reins of a college football playoff contender, but Penn
21:29
Speaker 1: State was never going to give Terry Smith that same opportunity.
21:34
Speaker 1: The question is why, though, big question, and a lot
21:36
Speaker 1: of this is detailed by Brent Schroten Schrotenbar of the
21:42
Speaker 1: USA Today in an article where he was dealing with that,
21:46
Speaker 1: and he also points out in the article that there
21:48
Speaker 1: are seventeen current white head coaches in the FBS who
21:52
Speaker 1: secured second or third chances after previously getting fired as
21:56
Speaker 1: an FBS head coach, and there are eight black head
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Speaker 1: coaches ever in the history of college football that have
22:03
Speaker 1: been given second chances at the FBS level after being
22:07
Speaker 1: fired as an FBS head coach. You know, maybe Jimmy
22:10
Speaker 1: Lake or Ryan Walters, maybe they will have a chance
22:13
Speaker 1: to change that. But history tells us it is going
22:16
Speaker 1: to be a hell of a rocky road for those dudes.
22:20
Speaker 1: Before you point to a guy that was at Oregon
22:22
Speaker 1: and then Florida State, Willy Taggard as the exception, because
22:25
Speaker 1: getting Florida Atlantic after two losing seasons at Florida State. Oh,
22:29
Speaker 1: kindly remind yourself, please, how many losing seasons that Mike
22:33
Speaker 1: Norvel has had in Tallahassee. He's been far worse than
22:38
Speaker 1: Willie Tagger And then google who the head coach at
22:40
Speaker 1: Florida State is right now. But here's the truth. Progress
22:44
Speaker 1: does take time, and black head coaches are still relatively new.
22:47
Speaker 1: And if you're forty seven or younger, which I fall into,
22:51
Speaker 1: the first black NC head coach ever, it happened in
22:55
Speaker 1: your lifetime, and that is Willie E. Jeffries at Wichita State.
23:00
Speaker 1: And if you're thirty seven or under, you were alive
23:03
Speaker 1: to see the first black NFL head coach in the
23:05
Speaker 1: Super Bowl era, mister artshell. But progress it does not
23:10
Speaker 1: always happen without guys like Marshall Fuck doing what he
23:15
Speaker 1: was known to do in his playing days, moving the
23:17
Speaker 1: ball up the field by any means necessary, lasting up.
23:21
Speaker 1: Oh Lord, have mercy, the return of ed Ojiron. Ed
23:25
Speaker 1: Ojiron is back at LSU. Are you kidding me? Lane Kiffin?
23:31
Speaker 1: After all the criticism I've given you, you finally go
23:34
Speaker 1: and do something amazing. Ed O Giron, who USC should
23:39
Speaker 1: have given the head coaching job to instead of Clay
23:41
Speaker 1: Helton who got fired after winning the national championship at
23:45
Speaker 1: LSU mans is back in the building. He wanted back
23:48
Speaker 1: in the coaching and Lane Kiffin gave him that opportunity.
23:52
Speaker 1: LSU is going on a tear of hiring coaches that
23:55
Speaker 1: they had already fired by the school. Johnny Jones basketball
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Speaker 1: coach from twenty twelve to twenty seventeen now an LSU
24:04
Speaker 1: assistant coach. Will Wade, he was the LSU's coach from
24:07
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty two, got fired for some US sanctions
24:10
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. Now back LSU's head coach,
24:13
Speaker 1: ed Oderon, they're head coach from twenty sixteen to twenty
24:16
Speaker 1: twenty one, now an assistant coach at LSU. Now he's
24:20
Speaker 1: been out of football since he got fired in twenty
24:23
Speaker 1: twenty one, and he was fifty one and twenty over
24:26
Speaker 1: the previous six seasons. And they work together over there
24:29
Speaker 1: at USC under Pete Carroll staff, so they know each other.
24:33
Speaker 1: And ed Odron is a type of dogget recruiter. He's
24:36
Speaker 1: the type of dude who's a good motivator. This is
24:39
Speaker 1: a man who is going to help LSU. And truthfully,
24:43
Speaker 1: he might help Lane Kipp and stop all this incessant
24:46
Speaker 1: crying and bs that he's spelling. But we'll see and
24:50
Speaker 1: I'm happy for it. Up next, Drew Marringer, Oregon's offensive coordinator,
24:56
Speaker 1: their new offensive coordinator. I'm excited you guys are gonna
25:00
Speaker 1: I love this interview. And then after that, we have
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Speaker 1: the top ten transfer quarterbacks in college football up next
25:06
Speaker 1: as well. You guys keep it locked. Tell a friend
25:08
Speaker 1: about the show and how in them comments.
25:14
Speaker 2: When I fell and had my life saving brain surgery
25:16
Speaker 2: as a sophomore. Number one, you realize that you can't
25:18
Speaker 2: take anything for granted. You never kind of know what
25:20
Speaker 2: direction you're going to be going in life. And it's
25:22
Speaker 2: a really good wake up call for me.
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Speaker 1: We're now on with the Oregon Ducks offensive coordinator mster.
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Speaker 3: Drew Marriager, Welcome to the show.
25:29
Speaker 4: Thank you excited man.
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Speaker 1: When you had the opportunity to interview for the job,
25:34
Speaker 1: what was your thought process?
25:35
Speaker 3: Did you think you would get it? How did that go.
25:38
Speaker 2: At a place like this, like any job in this
25:40
Speaker 2: building is really really exciting. Coach Landing hired me in
25:43
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two as the tight ends coach. He called
25:46
Speaker 2: and said, hey, man, are you ready to be a Duck?
25:47
Speaker 2: And I was like, I will walk there, I will
25:49
Speaker 2: call there. You know, to be in this position with
25:52
Speaker 2: this group of young men and the staff that we
25:55
Speaker 2: get a chance to work with is extremely special and
25:57
Speaker 2: something I certainly don't take lightly and unbelievably rateful for.
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Speaker 3: So what was the preparation? Like you were the tight.
26:03
Speaker 1: Ends coach last year, but then at the same time,
26:06
Speaker 1: you know that you're personally growing and preparing to potentially
26:10
Speaker 1: be a coordinator maybe a head coach one day. What
26:13
Speaker 1: are you doing to prepare for that throughout the season
26:16
Speaker 1: and throughout the years as you're learning and growing.
26:18
Speaker 2: The coaching population has sort of gotten younger, I would say,
26:22
Speaker 2: on the average age, and then I think that a
26:24
Speaker 2: lot of young coaches are on this hair to see
26:28
Speaker 2: how fast and how high they can climb as soon
26:30
Speaker 2: as possible. And I think that you miss a lot
26:32
Speaker 2: of great lessons, not only like personally and professionally, but
26:37
Speaker 2: even just how everything is run, why we are doing
26:40
Speaker 2: what we do, not just that it works. The best
26:43
Speaker 2: thing that you can do to elevate yourself, so to speak,
26:46
Speaker 2: is be really good at the job that you have,
26:49
Speaker 2: be where your feet are. At the same time, that
26:52
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you can't have some idea that hey, this
26:55
Speaker 2: is where I'm trying to grow towards.
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Speaker 4: So I think that your job then is to.
27:00
Speaker 2: Take little pieces off of other people's plates, right, take
27:04
Speaker 2: on a little bits of more responsibility, and that same
27:08
Speaker 2: way you get to you know, maybe not jump in
27:11
Speaker 2: two feet right there, but you get to take it,
27:13
Speaker 2: you know, dip your toe in the water and say like, okay,
27:15
Speaker 2: I'm ready for more responsibility.
27:16
Speaker 4: I can grow.
27:17
Speaker 2: Having a really good working relationship with Will, and I've
27:19
Speaker 2: known Will since twenty seventeen, that was my whole goal,
27:22
Speaker 2: was like, how can I make your job easier? The
27:24
Speaker 2: same thing for coach Lanning, how can I make your
27:26
Speaker 2: job easier. Some of that is in game planning, and
27:27
Speaker 2: some of that is in keeping players in staff organized
27:29
Speaker 2: as well. So I think that's how you begin to grow.
27:32
Speaker 2: And I think that if you're focused on the next job,
27:35
Speaker 2: then you're not going to get it because you're still
27:37
Speaker 2: you still.
27:37
Speaker 1: Got a job and you've got to be good at
27:38
Speaker 1: So what are some of the biggest lessons that you
27:40
Speaker 1: learned over the last couple of seasons, Because you talked
27:43
Speaker 1: about that if you're trying to ascend too fast, that
27:45
Speaker 1: you can miss some of the very important steps. What
27:47
Speaker 1: do you think some of those steps were that you
27:49
Speaker 1: may have missed had you been looking in front of
27:51
Speaker 1: you and not being where your feet are.
27:52
Speaker 2: From a very personal level, what we're asking players to do,
27:56
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of things that people get
27:58
Speaker 2: focused on is scheme, scheme, scheme, how do I call
28:00
Speaker 2: this play? What are we running this into? You lose
28:03
Speaker 2: the concept of what you're asking your left tackle to do. Right,
28:06
Speaker 2: and especially for skill guys like how many there's not
28:09
Speaker 2: a whole lot of skill coaches that have spent any
28:11
Speaker 2: time around the offensive line. There's not a lot of
28:12
Speaker 2: offensive line coaches that have spent much time around skill
28:16
Speaker 2: and being the tight ends coach, you get a.
28:18
Speaker 4: Little above a lot of both.
28:19
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, you know, like people ask me
28:21
Speaker 2: like what skills does the tight end have to know?
28:23
Speaker 2: And I was like, aside from throwing the football, all
28:25
Speaker 2: of they do everything else, And so you have to
28:28
Speaker 2: be a proficient at a lot of different things. And
28:30
Speaker 2: it gives you perspective and value of what you're asking
28:33
Speaker 2: this player to do to make this scheme work against
28:35
Speaker 2: a matchup. Some players are really good when they're drawn
28:38
Speaker 2: on the board and all x'es and o's are the same, right,
28:40
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, right those ex'es and
28:42
Speaker 2: o's turned into real humans and are not as quite
28:43
Speaker 2: as good. So are their defenses that we can't run
28:45
Speaker 2: that play into? Right, So then what's our solution having
28:48
Speaker 2: some of those answers? And I think for me kind
28:51
Speaker 2: of going back to that last question following into this one.
28:53
Speaker 2: When you're presenting your area of game planning, right, this
28:57
Speaker 2: is what I want to run right here, you're presenting.
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Speaker 4: This to will you present this coach lanning?
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Speaker 2: And that's great versus this picture, right, I love this play, right,
29:06
Speaker 2: but how do you manage all the rest of the
29:08
Speaker 2: variables that can happen out there. And if this play,
29:11
Speaker 2: let's pretend that we have some play that's going to
29:14
Speaker 2: score a touchdown, right, if it's only into one picture,
29:16
Speaker 2: how do we make sure that number one we get
29:18
Speaker 2: into that picture right? And if they're in something else,
29:20
Speaker 2: is it still good or is it terrible?
29:21
Speaker 3: Like?
29:22
Speaker 4: How do we manage those variables?
29:23
Speaker 2: And how do we make it easy for the players
29:24
Speaker 2: to execute the totality of what we're asking them to
29:28
Speaker 2: do on top of is it in the flow of
29:31
Speaker 2: how Will likes to call the game or is it
29:34
Speaker 2: creating the matchup that we want to create? Is there
29:36
Speaker 2: a better way to do this? And so I think
29:39
Speaker 2: a lot of those lessons that we learn, I think
29:42
Speaker 2: are getting nitty gritty in the details right here and
29:46
Speaker 2: setting yourself up to make sure that you're not out
29:49
Speaker 2: there wasting plays and taking ownership when you can do
29:52
Speaker 2: something better.
29:53
Speaker 4: And I think that we've had a really.
29:55
Speaker 2: Good company continuity on our staff, and we have a
29:58
Speaker 2: lot of guys that are trying to just that.
30:01
Speaker 3: Talk about things that you want people to know.
30:02
Speaker 1: I want people to know and understand the tight ends
30:05
Speaker 1: or the outside of the quarterback, the second the second
30:10
Speaker 1: most knowledgeable player on the field because you have to
30:15
Speaker 1: know the wide receivers jobs, you have to know the
30:18
Speaker 1: lineman's jobs, the running backs jobs, the protections, the routes,
30:22
Speaker 1: the coverage, the front so and I just and that's
30:25
Speaker 1: why I think that guys like Dan Campbell excelling and
30:29
Speaker 1: that this hopefully that this brings more opportunity for tight
30:33
Speaker 1: end coaches, who are some of the smartest coaches because
30:36
Speaker 1: they have to teach.
30:36
Speaker 2: Everything you know, even like he look at Sean McVay,
30:39
Speaker 2: he spent some time as a tight ends coach in Washington,
30:41
Speaker 2: and you go back twenty five thirty years, right, the
30:44
Speaker 2: tight end was basically an extension of the offensive line,
30:47
Speaker 2: and then guys like Tony Gonzalez and people like that,
30:50
Speaker 2: they started to change the game for what those guys
30:53
Speaker 2: could really do. There's a myriad of body types and
30:56
Speaker 2: skill sets that now exist in that position. I mean,
30:58
Speaker 2: Kenyon's very different than Terrence for who's very different than
31:01
Speaker 2: Jamari who is very different than Patrick Herbert.
31:03
Speaker 4: And they all play the same spot.
31:04
Speaker 2: You have to be able to think on your feet
31:06
Speaker 2: because checks like everything changes, whether the end is in
31:10
Speaker 2: a six technique right, head up, right, or he's outside right,
31:12
Speaker 2: or if they're in an even front or they're a
31:14
Speaker 2: not front right, and it's split second decisions.
31:16
Speaker 4: Right, is this an edge blitz? Is not? You know,
31:19
Speaker 4: how does that change everything that you do much less?
31:22
Speaker 2: You got to go out there against Brandon Finnie and
31:23
Speaker 2: get offers press, you know what I mean. So it's
31:26
Speaker 2: certainly not an easy position on the brain. It's not
31:28
Speaker 2: get out there and run a corner route anymore, or hey,
31:30
Speaker 2: you're going to block the.
31:31
Speaker 4: End every single time. Like it's just not it's it's
31:33
Speaker 4: so much more than that.
31:35
Speaker 2: But it's been good, and I think that we're seeing,
31:37
Speaker 2: you know, sort of this like resurgence of the value
31:41
Speaker 2: of that position showing up, not just in college football
31:44
Speaker 2: but in the NFL. You know, I think the Rams
31:47
Speaker 2: using Sean McVay again, we're in thirteen personnel probably more
31:49
Speaker 2: than anybody else in this season. It limits what you're
31:51
Speaker 2: able to do on defense, is you have to have
31:53
Speaker 2: people that can fill if they line up in a
31:54
Speaker 2: thirteen perconnel run formation, like you got to be gap
31:57
Speaker 2: sound and okay, going to put bigger bodies out there, right, Well,
32:02
Speaker 2: you got Kenyon Sanika.
32:03
Speaker 3: Out and then you spread them out, it's a nightmare.
32:06
Speaker 2: Right, So I think that the versatility, Like, that's what's
32:08
Speaker 2: been cool about this position, and I think for what
32:12
Speaker 2: we try to do with that position, I think it's
32:13
Speaker 2: been fun.
32:13
Speaker 3: Can you talk.
32:14
Speaker 1: About Dante Moore and getting a chance to work with
32:18
Speaker 1: him in a different capacity this year as the opfensive
32:21
Speaker 1: coordinator and his leadership and growth that you've seen since
32:25
Speaker 1: he's been here.
32:26
Speaker 4: He's an amazing, amazing young man.
32:28
Speaker 2: Like, aside from the what we see on Saturdays and
32:31
Speaker 2: what we'll eventually see on Sundays, the work that he
32:34
Speaker 2: does in the community back home, right, you see the
32:36
Speaker 2: children's book that he's written. He's never too big, never
32:39
Speaker 2: too busy for anybody, very humble person. He'll be the
32:42
Speaker 2: first one to tell you that that he screwed it
32:45
Speaker 2: up and that I can do better. It happened today
32:47
Speaker 2: and walk through right, he was talking to our receiver
32:50
Speaker 2: and he was like, you know what that part was
32:51
Speaker 2: on me. Now, our relationships a lot different. But because
32:54
Speaker 2: he's so mature, you can have NFL like conversations with him,
32:59
Speaker 2: you know. And I can sit down with him and say, like,
33:02
Speaker 2: here is the twenty five plays that we like.
33:05
Speaker 4: I need you to help me.
33:06
Speaker 2: Get this down to sixteen, right, And he is like,
33:09
Speaker 2: you know, I don't like this because this, I don't
33:11
Speaker 2: like this. Because of this, you can have pretty back
33:14
Speaker 2: and forth fluid conversations and that part's been really, really fun.
33:18
Speaker 2: And what's been cool for me is Dante's ind golf
33:22
Speaker 2: right now. The swing's gotten a lot better, So we've
33:24
Speaker 2: gotten a chance to hang out and play golf just
33:26
Speaker 2: the two of us a few times.
33:27
Speaker 4: And no pressure right there. It doesn't have to be
33:29
Speaker 4: ball talk or anything.
33:30
Speaker 2: It's just hanging out and it's a unique relationship and
33:32
Speaker 2: one I'm very thankful for.
33:34
Speaker 1: And you've had a chance to be around some very
33:37
Speaker 1: good seasons as a GA. You were at Ohio stay
33:40
Speaker 1: with Braxton Miller for the for the undefeated season. What
33:45
Speaker 1: lessons have you learned along the way, And because you've
33:48
Speaker 1: not only been a part of some excellent teams, but
33:51
Speaker 1: you've been a part of championships as well.
33:53
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that you learn is that
33:55
Speaker 2: details matter and organization matters. That season, for two seasons
34:01
Speaker 2: we won twenty four games in a row with Urban Meyer.
34:03
Speaker 2: He would say teaching is very very important. It's not
34:06
Speaker 2: what you know, it's what they know and your ability
34:08
Speaker 2: to convey those messages to those players matters. So he
34:11
Speaker 2: would say, clear, clean, concise, direct, and that's the way
34:14
Speaker 2: that he wanted you to teach. That's stuck with me
34:17
Speaker 2: partially because if you didn't do it, he was going
34:19
Speaker 2: to remind you to do it.
34:21
Speaker 1: But he was right.
34:22
Speaker 2: Really, good teams are a few things. Our core values are.
34:25
Speaker 2: The pillars of our programs are always growth mindset, right,
34:29
Speaker 2: process oriented over result oriented.
34:31
Speaker 4: Even if we even if we won, right, do we
34:34
Speaker 4: need to fix something? Right?
34:36
Speaker 2: Even if we didn't convert on third down? Like, how
34:39
Speaker 2: can we do that better? Every team is tough, both
34:41
Speaker 2: physically and mentally. Every team has got a sacrifice. Right
34:44
Speaker 2: we've been using on offensive spring has been furda, which
34:47
Speaker 2: is for the guys and who are you playing for?
34:51
Speaker 4: Right?
34:51
Speaker 2: And especially in this day and age of nil and
34:55
Speaker 2: you know all this other stuff that's going on, which
34:57
Speaker 2: I think is wonderful for the players.
34:58
Speaker 4: I mean, these guys are get head starts.
35:00
Speaker 2: In life that you and I could only dream of, right,
35:03
Speaker 2: which is great. But you know, Marshall has a quote
35:07
Speaker 2: that character matters more now than it ever has.
35:09
Speaker 4: And character is always important.
35:11
Speaker 2: But like in the nil discussion, money doesn't define you, right,
35:16
Speaker 2: It only like really kind.
35:17
Speaker 3: Of enhances who you really are.
35:19
Speaker 2: You're going to see really like what's under underneath the
35:21
Speaker 2: hood here, and so the pillars of our program say
35:26
Speaker 2: everything that needs to say about what championship culture is
35:28
Speaker 2: supposed to look like. And all the teams that I've
35:30
Speaker 2: been on, right, you see those values show up.
35:33
Speaker 4: And that's been cool.
35:34
Speaker 1: How much of what's under your hood has been shaped
35:37
Speaker 1: by your youth because you were committed to be a
35:40
Speaker 1: quarterback to go to Todd Graham down there at Rice,
35:44
Speaker 1: you ended up having a fall, had an injury. How
35:46
Speaker 1: much does that shape your life and your resilience and
35:49
Speaker 1: everything else?
35:50
Speaker 2: Freshman year, third knee surgery done right, You're no longer
35:53
Speaker 2: an asset, You're a liability to the organization. You're going
35:55
Speaker 2: to be medically qualified.
35:57
Speaker 4: And you know when football ends right, sooner rather than later,
36:00
Speaker 4: and hopefully later.
36:01
Speaker 2: For everybody that gets a chance to play played as
36:03
Speaker 2: long as you can. It's the greatest sport on the planet.
36:07
Speaker 2: But it does the ball goes flat for you in
36:08
Speaker 2: some capacity, and that's what It's an odd moment for.
36:11
Speaker 4: Everybody in their life right. You know, it's like what
36:13
Speaker 4: do I do now?
36:14
Speaker 3: Right?
36:14
Speaker 4: Like I've always just like go to the next thing. Yeah,
36:17
Speaker 4: when I.
36:17
Speaker 2: Fell and had my life saving brain surgery as a sophomore,
36:20
Speaker 2: number one, you realize that you can't take.
36:22
Speaker 4: Anything for granted. And every day, every moment, every person
36:25
Speaker 4: in your life, they're special.
36:26
Speaker 2: And I'd love to tell you that I've been unbelievably
36:28
Speaker 2: perfect at that I'm not. And it's a sobering reminder
36:31
Speaker 2: of like how easy it is for us to lose
36:34
Speaker 2: perspective here in life. At that time, I didn't know
36:36
Speaker 2: where I was heading in life, right, And I remember
36:39
Speaker 2: my dad asking me that question.
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Speaker 4: About a year later. He was like, you got any plans.
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Speaker 2: For your life? And at that time, as a you know,
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Speaker 2: twenty one year old junior, I was like, I don't know,
36:47
Speaker 2: you know, And DA was like, well, you ain't coming
36:48
Speaker 2: back here, you know, so you're kind of forced to
36:51
Speaker 2: like figure out what you're going.
36:52
Speaker 4: To start doing. God's divine providence, this is what I'm
36:54
Speaker 4: doing now, And you know, it was kind of a.
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Speaker 2: Head start and a kickstart into what I'm doing. And
36:59
Speaker 2: you know, my growth too. You can always be growing
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Speaker 2: and always be learning. And one thing that I think
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Speaker 2: is super cool that we do here at Oregon is
37:06
Speaker 2: we meet together as a staff.
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Speaker 4: We've done it since I've been here.
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Speaker 2: You learn as much from hearing the defense to talk
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Speaker 2: about this is this, this is this, Okay, we don't
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Speaker 2: like this, we have to make this check right. And
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Speaker 2: you learn as much football listening to them as you
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Speaker 2: do thinking about it in your own offensive staff room.
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Speaker 3: So do you remember the concert?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Van Halen rock On. I remember getting out
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Speaker 2: of my seat and I don't remember much else after that.
37:34
Speaker 2: I was running to catch a train with my roommate
37:37
Speaker 2: Will Shoppa, and I hit a chain that was marked
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Speaker 2: off and it was, you know, late at night, and
37:44
Speaker 2: I was a college student that made some poor decisions
37:47
Speaker 2: on what I was going to consume that evening, and
37:50
Speaker 2: I fell and hit my head and I like bounced
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Speaker 2: off the concrete.
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Speaker 4: I got up, and then my roommate and everybody.
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Speaker 2: Else around his lab and is like this the least
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Speaker 2: athletic thing I've ever seen you do, and are like
38:01
Speaker 2: blacked out on the train, and my roommate, by the
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Speaker 2: grace of God, here it's I was like, hey, guys,
38:06
Speaker 2: we got to stop the train.
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Speaker 4: I've never seen him do this before. Thankfully. We were
38:10
Speaker 4: in Dallas, where I'm from.
38:14
Speaker 2: We were at the American Airline Center, and uh so
38:16
Speaker 2: he called my dad from my phone and raced up
38:20
Speaker 2: there and they're like, he's going to be fine. He's
38:23
Speaker 2: just has a concussion. And my dad was like, look like,
38:30
Speaker 2: can you just check him again? And they found the
38:32
Speaker 2: soft spot right there where my my skull had fractured.
38:35
Speaker 2: And I got rushed into an emergency craning otomy and
38:38
Speaker 2: I was in a coma for a few days and
38:41
Speaker 2: came out, and like I said, by the grace of God,
38:44
Speaker 2: the ever I get headaches. Now, we got at like
38:47
Speaker 2: a lot of headaches, but everybody seems to get headaches, right,
38:51
Speaker 2: Stress happens, and life happens, So that doesn't make me
38:54
Speaker 2: special or anything like that.
38:55
Speaker 4: So but I'm very thankful.
38:57
Speaker 2: It's obviously you never know, quite especially at that age
39:01
Speaker 2: at twenty one twenty. I was twenty at that time.
39:04
Speaker 2: You never kind of know what direction you're going to
39:05
Speaker 2: be going in life. And it was a really good
39:06
Speaker 2: wake up call for me. So, you know, I'm unbelievably
39:10
Speaker 2: thankful for the experience. I wish I could learn some
39:12
Speaker 2: lessons a little bit easier.
39:13
Speaker 1: But and you're back at concerts and I just went
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Speaker 1: to a carcert in visa.
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Speaker 3: What was that like?
39:20
Speaker 2: So we were in Barcelona for a when my wife
39:24
Speaker 2: and I got married, we happened to be in Barcelona
39:27
Speaker 2: and I looked up and I saw that Martin Garricks
39:30
Speaker 2: was playing in a visa and it's a puddle jump
39:32
Speaker 2: flight over and I was like, well, you know, Mike
39:35
Speaker 2: Posner wrote a song about this.
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Speaker 4: You should go check it out, you know.
39:38
Speaker 2: And we didn't take any pills in a visa. So yeah,
39:42
Speaker 2: it was incredible, Like, it was super fun. I'm always
39:45
Speaker 2: into like new experiences and trying new things, you know,
39:49
Speaker 2: if you can go, you know, I thought we went
39:51
Speaker 2: to Wimbledon one time and that was amazing.
39:53
Speaker 4: You know.
39:54
Speaker 2: So seeing the world and seeing how different people live
39:56
Speaker 2: and how they operate and how their families work and
39:58
Speaker 2: how their social structure works, I think gives you good
40:01
Speaker 2: perspective on you know, things that you can change or
40:03
Speaker 2: values that you can approach differently.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you guys, he is Drew Marringer, offensive coordinator
40:10
Speaker 1: for the Oregon Ducks. Congratulations on the new role. Have
40:13
Speaker 1: a great season. Thanks man, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: It is top ten time, and these are my top
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Speaker 1: ten college football transfer quarterbacks for this season. Because transferred
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that win the Heisman Trophy, they win your national
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Speaker 1: championships and everything else. So I'm super excited about this class.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it at number one. This is a
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Speaker 1: late transfer at the you know, at the twelfth hour,
40:44
Speaker 1: the eleventh hour. Darien Mensa, the kid went from Duke
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Speaker 1: to Miami after previously being at Tulane. He was the
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Speaker 1: ACC leader in yards and touchdowns last year, took Duke
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Speaker 1: to the ACC championship and he won it only six
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Speaker 1: interceptions on five hundred pass attempts and none in eight
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Speaker 1: regular season conference games last year. Kids a true pocket passer,
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Speaker 1: bringing the wide receiver with him, and he has Malachai Tony.
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Speaker 1: He should absolutely excel and make Miami a national championship contender.
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Speaker 1: Number two. Byron Brown from USLF with his head coach
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Speaker 1: over to Auburn. Now Auburn getting a transferred quarterback to
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Speaker 1: previously played in the state of Florida. Like this might
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Speaker 1: not be Cam Newton, but Byron Brown is the next
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Speaker 1: closest thing. That Auburn has had to a dual threat
41:36
Speaker 1: star since Cam Newton graduated and Byron Brown missed most
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. But last year he continued right
41:43
Speaker 1: where he left off in twenty twenty three. In his
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Speaker 1: breakout season, he had over one thousand yards rushing and
41:49
Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns to go along with a fifteen touchdowns ten
41:53
Speaker 1: interception ratio on Damn near seventy percent completion last year
41:58
Speaker 1: and his ever lie as a passer has been absolutely outstanding,
42:03
Speaker 1: and that was his last six games, by the way.
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Speaker 1: Drew Mestamaker at number three, kid goes from North Texas
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Speaker 1: to Oklahoma State with his same coach, So that's exciting,
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Speaker 1: same system, which is exciting. And then that same system
42:19
Speaker 1: saw him throw for forty four hundred yards in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five. Wyatt Young and the entire North Texas wide
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Speaker 1: receiver corps is now over in Stillwater. And then you
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Speaker 1: got Justin Bowick from Illinois and he brings his NFL
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Speaker 1: size at six four to two hundred pounds, and that's
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Speaker 1: gonna give mess to Maker a truly scary set of weapons,
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Speaker 1: and Oklahoma State will be much improved this year. Number
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Speaker 1: four Sam Levitt kid goes from ASU over to LSU. Now,
42:47
Speaker 1: he has had injury issues. He is not one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent jet but should be by the time the season starts,
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Speaker 1: and he is a veteran. Now he does only have
42:58
Speaker 1: two career three hundred yards passing games, which should improve
43:02
Speaker 1: in Lane Kiffin's system. But the last half of the
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season had people thinking like, yo, this
43:08
Speaker 1: dude's gonna be a Heisman contender in twenty twenty five
43:11
Speaker 1: and Lane Kiffin's offenses over the last four years they
43:14
Speaker 1: averaged five hundred plus rushing quarterback rushing yards per season
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Speaker 1: and Levitt went healthy. Oh, he's an absolute freak athlete
43:24
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands, and he's one of
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Speaker 1: the more agile and fast quarterbacks that we've seen really
43:29
Speaker 1: since the last time ASU quarterback transferred to LSU. And
43:34
Speaker 1: mister j Daniels next up, mister Josh Hoover goes from
43:38
Speaker 1: TCU to Indiana. He does have thirty five starts, which
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Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible, nearly ten thousand yards passing and seventy
43:46
Speaker 1: one touchdown passes. Now that is coming from an air
43:50
Speaker 1: raid though, but in an air ray, you're using quick
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Speaker 1: decision making and you know you're not making full field reads,
43:57
Speaker 1: which he's not going to be asked to do again. Now.
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Speaker 1: The only issue is and the biggest difference between him
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Speaker 1: and Fernando Mendoza is he has negative ten career rushing yards.
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Speaker 1: And listen, and if you think about this, he has
44:12
Speaker 1: an alarming eighteen touchdowns and fifteen interceptions in true road
44:18
Speaker 1: games over the last two years. Now that ratio is
44:22
Speaker 1: thirty four to eight over the last two years at
44:25
Speaker 1: home though, so he's better at home than completely on
44:28
Speaker 1: the road. Next quarterbackup, Colton Joseph. Kid goes from Old
44:34
Speaker 1: Dominion to Wisconsin. Now, ask Indiana what they think of
44:38
Speaker 1: mister Colton Joseph. They might have picked him off three times,
44:43
Speaker 1: but the kid had almost two hundred rushing yards against
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Speaker 1: a defense that gave up seventy seven yards per game
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Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. And he also flashed
44:53
Speaker 1: the ability to pass the ball because he had five
44:55
Speaker 1: games of three or more touchdown passes and six games
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Speaker 1: of at least two hundred and fifty yards passing. And
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Speaker 1: you got to go back three years to get six
45:05
Speaker 1: games where a Wisconsin quarterback has thrown for two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty yards in a game six total times and
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Speaker 1: they did it once last year. That's it, So major
45:18
Speaker 1: upgrade there. Next quarterback up, mister Rocko Becked. He goes
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Speaker 1: with his head coach Matt Campbell from Iowa State over
45:27
Speaker 1: to Penn State. Thirty nine career starts his OC Taylor
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Speaker 1: Mauser over nine thousand yards and sneaky nineteen Russian touchdowns
45:40
Speaker 1: to add to his passing totals as well. So you
45:44
Speaker 1: might not be impressed by his two hundred and thirty
45:46
Speaker 1: five passing yards per game over the last three years,
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Speaker 1: but Penn State fans, oh, they would have absolutely killed
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Speaker 1: for Drew Awler to regularly pass for two hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty five yards. So it's not all that different from
45:59
Speaker 1: what rock Party produced in the last you know, three
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Speaker 1: of his four years as a starter in the exact
46:06
Speaker 1: same system, and that produced a very good NFL quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Next up, we got mister Aiden childs Now. I'm excited
46:15
Speaker 1: about this kid because he goes from Michigan State to
46:18
Speaker 1: Northwestern and Northwestern last year they were a competent quarterback
46:23
Speaker 1: away from being a nine win team, and when you
46:27
Speaker 1: had the physicality of their run game the way that
46:30
Speaker 1: they're upgrading their talent at all the rest of the positions.
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Speaker 1: This should be a situation where Aiden Childs gets to
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Speaker 1: flourish and gets to show his ability to run and
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Speaker 1: throw the ball because he's a very high level passer,
46:44
Speaker 1: but his issue has been taking care of the football.
46:47
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see him this year in Northwestern.
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Speaker 1: Next kid up, number nine, Cayden Hauser. He goes from
46:56
Speaker 1: East Carolina over to Illinois. This is a big up
47:00
Speaker 1: at a major opportunity for him, going to go play
47:03
Speaker 1: for Brett Bielima, who is a very good coach and
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Speaker 1: understands what it is like to develop quarterbacks. And he's
47:11
Speaker 1: been in a system where at Well, he'll be in
47:13
Speaker 1: a system at Illinois where they're going to have a
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Speaker 1: quality defense, they're going to have some weapons on the outside,
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Speaker 1: and he is going to have a level of raised
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Speaker 1: expectation and Houser I expect him to be ready for
47:27
Speaker 1: the moment and potentially put himself in position to be
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Speaker 1: a first round NFL pick if he plays well enough.
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Speaker 1: Number ten, Oh, there was a lot of talk about
47:38
Speaker 1: this kid last year, but he ended up losing the
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Speaker 1: starting job to one of the best quarterbacks in college football. CJ. Carr,
47:47
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about Kenny Minchi. He goes from Notre
47:50
Speaker 1: Dame overtook Kentucky with Will Stein as a first year
47:54
Speaker 1: head coach. And will Stein has had guys like Bo
47:57
Speaker 1: Nixon his system, he has had dealing Gabriel these and
48:02
Speaker 1: he has shown the ability to work with veteran quarterbacks
48:05
Speaker 1: and guys who have been around. And even though Minchi
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Speaker 1: hasn't played a lot, his former coach Marcus Freeman has
48:14
Speaker 1: raved about how good he with is and just the
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Speaker 1: fact that CJ. Carr just so happened to be a
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Speaker 1: legendary and a special type of quarterback. And aside from that,
48:24
Speaker 1: he would have loved to keep Kenny Minchie. So this
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Speaker 1: is why I'm excited about his future now. At this
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Speaker 1: point in time in the video, there's probably a lot
48:32
Speaker 1: of people saying, George, what about DJ Lagway. He goes
48:36
Speaker 1: from Florida to Baylor intentionally left off of this list,
48:41
Speaker 1: And I hope the kid does go off and have
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Speaker 1: a really good season and a really good career, But
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Speaker 1: at this point in time, I'm not as high on
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Speaker 1: him as some of these other guys on the list.
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Speaker 1: But you guys, can go hop in the comments, tell
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Speaker 1: me anybody that I missed on the top transferred quarterbacks
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