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Chris Kalafus joins the show · Day Drinking With Dog

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  Speaker 1: Oh it is a lovely end of February. Almost spring
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  Speaker 1: March is rolling right around the corner on Sunday. I
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  Speaker 1: believe we had a crazy snowstorm this week. They were
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  Speaker 1: predicting another one next week, but I think they push
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  Speaker 1: it off the week. I don't know if this weather
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  Speaker 1: is just so nuts, but I'm so happy to have
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  Speaker 1: back and thanks for reaching out. He was on I
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  Speaker 1: think like year two of my podcast, Chris Caliphus, Welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you inviting me back, selling me back.
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  Speaker 1: You were just talking about, you know what your tombstone
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  Speaker 1: would say for your obituary, and I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: how to introduce you anymore, but today I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: introduce you as author Chris Caliphus of the book Raising
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  Speaker 1: a Musical Child.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That was like a joke I made a couple of
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago, and when my book came out on February twelfth,
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  Speaker 4: I said to my wife, my my.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to be kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm teacher here in Milford for thirty years, musician
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  Speaker 4: for like forty five years in the area. I compose
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  Speaker 4: music for movies, I'm an author and uh and because
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  Speaker 4: of today, there's a possibility a screenplay that I wrote
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  Speaker 4: is going to be made into a short film. So
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to jink s it. So I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to say anything. Yeah, but you know.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to manifest positive, positive thinking on that one. I
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  Speaker 2: hope it. I hope it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll touch that a little later, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: hear what that might be about. So we go way
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  Speaker 1: back in the bar business. I was a bartender, you
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  Speaker 1: were a band or playing in a band, or.
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  Speaker 2: The mix before that, out of the Blue, the.
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  Speaker 3: Mix the mixes, Yeah, out of the Blue of Jesus
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  Speaker 3: Christ Blue. Is that is going back to like two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and two babies?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty years yeah, years ago.
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  Speaker 3: So I kind of followed your journey.
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  Speaker 1: And then you had your daughters and all three of
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  Speaker 1: them are musicians, and Caitlin's the.
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  Speaker 3: Oldest, and you decided to write a book.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think this correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: But this book is is kind of more of a
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  Speaker 1: it took you a while to write it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh it took Yeah, Yeah, well I started writing it
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  Speaker 4: as we were flying across country back when the girls
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  Speaker 4: wearing kicking daisies. And for anybody who doesn't know, that
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  Speaker 4: was a Disney type band. Yeah, and yeah, rock band,
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  Speaker 4: but they but they played their instruments. They were there
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  Speaker 4: was nothing fake about Oh no, they were pretty cool. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they were great. I mean, god, remember those days at
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  Speaker 4: Daniel Street. I'd sell out in a Saturday afternoon, put
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  Speaker 4: four hundred kids in there, and then the parents would
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  Speaker 4: be more impressed.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I was asked to work and I'm like, are
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  Speaker 3: we serving booze?
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  Speaker 1: And They're like no, we bought a bunch of Snickers bars,
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  Speaker 1: em and M's.
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  Speaker 3: And we got a bunch of soda. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm good. Can I just go? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't work, Yeah, but but you probably would have
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  Speaker 4: done alright, because there were so many kids there. It
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  Speaker 4: was crazy. Yeah, those those were good times. So we
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  Speaker 4: were flying out to Los Angeles and they were going
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  Speaker 4: to play the Troubadour, Yeah, you know, the world famous
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  Speaker 4: Troubadour and Eagles met and where James Taylor met Carol
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  Speaker 4: King and you know so many legendary Elton John and
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  Speaker 4: Billy they play there. Yeah, And I started thinking, I
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  Speaker 4: need to document this, I need to write this down.
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  Speaker 2: I need to keep track of what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: So had my old iPad, the little iPad did you
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  Speaker 4: typing right on the screen and everything, And I started
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  Speaker 4: writing some stuff, and little by little I would start
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  Speaker 4: adding some things. And then I thought, nobody's really going
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  Speaker 4: to want to read my life story, you know like that?
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  Speaker 4: You know who's gonna want to pick a book up
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  Speaker 4: like that? So so I I started thinking about how
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  Speaker 4: did we get here, how did my kids get to
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  Speaker 4: this point?
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  Speaker 2: And I started thinking about the games.
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  Speaker 4: We played when they were little and all the things
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  Speaker 4: that we did, and I started writing those things down,
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  Speaker 4: and that's kind of how the book evolved.
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  Speaker 2: So it's actually in three parts.
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  Speaker 4: The first part is kind of like stories about how
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  Speaker 4: life can just point you in a direction and if
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  Speaker 4: you follow it, who knows where you're going to end up?
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  Speaker 4: And you know that happens all the time to people.
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  Speaker 4: And then the second part is my thoughts on music,
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  Speaker 4: what music means, where it came from?
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  Speaker 2: How does a baby know? To dance.
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  Speaker 4: Like days old, you play music and the kids starts wiggling,
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  Speaker 4: and you're like, nobody taught the kid to dance. You know,
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  Speaker 4: It's like, so what is it in us that has
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  Speaker 4: music in us? So we talked about that, and the
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  Speaker 4: second part and then third part's all the little activities.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know how many.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I ever counted them up, actually, but
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  Speaker 4: there's probably twenty or thirty little mini activities or little
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  Speaker 4: suggestions that parents can do. Even if they're not musical,
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  Speaker 4: they can do these kind of things like I'll give
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  Speaker 4: you an example. The very first thing we did when
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  Speaker 4: my wife was pregnant. We would take those headphones kind
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  Speaker 4: of like the ones you're wearing, the big cans, and
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  Speaker 4: we put them on our belly and we play some music.
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  Speaker 3: And it would be anything.
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  Speaker 4: It would be led Zeppelin or the Stones, or Miles
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  Speaker 4: Davis and Charlie Parker, or it would be Mozart.
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  Speaker 2: Or you know, Beethoven. It would be like a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of everything.
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  Speaker 4: And because I came to find out later that babies
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  Speaker 4: in the womb can actually start hearing at about the third.
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  Speaker 3: Month, wow, which is crassy.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think they can start hearing and then
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  Speaker 4: they pick up on their mother's heartbeat. And so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's where the book came from. And so recently I
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  Speaker 4: decided I got a finish thing. Yeah, it's been sitting there.
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  Speaker 4: I would revisit it every few years. I'd add a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more and like, I'm going to release this,
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  Speaker 4: and then I wouldn't, and then I did a couple
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  Speaker 4: more years. I'm gonna really Nope, So fine, I did,
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  Speaker 4: Yeah I did.
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  Speaker 3: So Now a couple of things stood out to me.
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  Speaker 1: But first, you start the book talking about yourself, your
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  Speaker 1: childhood a little bit. Yeah, and you basically you didn't
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  Speaker 1: sneak out. You stayed over a friend's house, right, and
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  Speaker 1: then they weren't allowed to go out late night or
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  Speaker 1: it was like a late night filming of a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah I was fourteen. Yeah, the midnight movies. For anybody
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  Speaker 4: who remembers the midnight movie.
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  Speaker 2: At like the Strand Theater up in Hampden, and that's
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  Speaker 2: where it was.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I would hear my friends talking about, oh we went
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  Speaker 4: and saw the Woodstock movie. We saw Jimmy Hendricks in
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  Speaker 4: this movie, or we saw Tommy by the Who, or
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  Speaker 4: we saw so one night my friend goes, hey, the
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  Speaker 4: led Zeppelin movie is playing at the strand let's go.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, I couldn't ask my mom, hey, can.
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  Speaker 4: I leave at eleven thirty at night to go to
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  Speaker 4: a movie and not get home till three or four
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  Speaker 4: in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: I was fourteen, Yeah, I was fourteen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and as and as liberal as they were,
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  Speaker 4: I mean they you know, I was always.
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  Speaker 2: The last one to go home. Nobody was like really
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  Speaker 2: watching over. Yeah, she wasn't gonna let me do that.
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  Speaker 2: Get my friend's car drive to Hamden from Strafford.
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  Speaker 4: And but I did, And that moment changed my life forever.
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  Speaker 4: If you've ever seen the song man say, uh, the
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  Speaker 4: pace starts picking up as they get closer to playing
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  Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden, and then all of a sudden you
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  Speaker 4: hear John Bottom, the drummer, rah, let's go, and he
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  Speaker 4: breaks into that iconic drumbeat of rock and roll, and
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  Speaker 4: then the stage just explodes and there's Jimmy Page on guitar,
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  Speaker 4: you know, doing his thing, and Robert Plant dancing across
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  Speaker 4: the stage and I just remember like sitting up being like,
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  Speaker 4: what is happening? Yeah, what is going on? It was
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  Speaker 4: so loud too. They brought in big speakers and it
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  Speaker 4: was just am that changed my life. And then the
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  Speaker 4: crazy part. Forty years later, somewhere around forty years later.
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  Speaker 3: I got to see because that was filmed the.
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  Speaker 2: Massive Square Garden.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to see my daughter Caitlin play there,
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  Speaker 4: play on that stage. Her drum set was set up
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  Speaker 4: exactly where John Bottom's drum set was set up.
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  Speaker 3: So Ningos say, I shed a few tears that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I always know you're a proud papa. Nothing,
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  Speaker 1: I don't I know that. Yeah, so yeah, so you
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  Speaker 1: know what's crazy? Like you say that, Like, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's very rare for anyone.
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  Speaker 3: I could.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all the guests that I've had come through
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  Speaker 1: this show that there was like one memory in their
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  Speaker 1: life that changed their life, you know, like.
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  Speaker 3: At a young age.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, when you.
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  Speaker 1: Get older, maybe a job or a kid, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting married something like that. But at fourteen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't know what the fuck I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do at fourteen, you know, like that's great, No, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but like but that kind of cemented you used it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Because my family was all about sports. My mother
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  Speaker 4: was an original break Cat. Yeah, yeah, nineteen forty seven.
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  Speaker 4: She played for the break Cats. My dad played for
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  Speaker 4: the Ravesta's Cardinals, which was the men's fast pitch a
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  Speaker 4: league there. He's in the Softball Hall of Fame. My
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  Speaker 4: brothers were athletes. I played, you know, with the Jets
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  Speaker 4: and the Eagles and Strafford Pop Warner.
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  Speaker 2: I played little league, you know, and we were all sports.
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  Speaker 4: Go to everybody's game, you go, you sat the game,
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  Speaker 4: you watch them play. They'd come to my games, and
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  Speaker 4: then I was the first one to kind of break out.
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  Speaker 4: The thing I do remember is my sister did have
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  Speaker 4: a guitar and and she played. She just said to me,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I read the book and I taught you
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  Speaker 4: your first chord.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, no, you didn't.
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  Speaker 4: So she's reminded me that I that I that I did.
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  Speaker 4: But I remember my dad sitting down at a piano
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  Speaker 4: playing something and he didn't know how to play, but
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  Speaker 4: he sounded good. That's like the only musical memory I
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  Speaker 4: remember of my family. And so when I discovered led Zeppelin,
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  Speaker 4: it changed my life, right, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, which is so cool now.
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  Speaker 1: I was I'm not a generation behind you, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: like a couple of years behind you where, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of you know, my first recollection of music
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  Speaker 1: in rock and roll was nineteen eighty four.
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  Speaker 3: Van Halen and I was only ten, but like, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was like I remember, like I wore that tape out,
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  Speaker 1: like I was just I've been rock and roll my
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  Speaker 1: whole life.
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  Speaker 3: Now. I listened to hard rock.
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  Speaker 1: Still never got into like heavy metal, but but I
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  Speaker 1: will always remember like that was my first thing. And
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  Speaker 1: my mother was a big Huey Lewis fan. Okay, so Sports, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so Sports, the album Sports I grew up in. Like
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  Speaker 1: my father was Neil Diamond Abba, you know that that
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  Speaker 1: was kind of my generation growing up. But then my brother,
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  Speaker 1: who's five years older than me, I guess you'd call
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  Speaker 1: it like eight eighties into early nineties was that hair
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  Speaker 1: band you know, the Motley Cruz, the you know, all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff was coming out, you know, and then I
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  Speaker 1: kind of gravitated towards that, but it was a short
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  Speaker 1: stint because then, you know, early nineties was grunge, and
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  Speaker 1: then I just gravitated to grunge incredibly, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Pearl Jam.
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  Speaker 3: Soundgarden all that stuff. Right, No, no, not clothing wise,
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  Speaker 3: I was still young.
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  Speaker 1: I was in high school. But I just it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Like my whole life, I always was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you look at your parents and what they listened to,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'll never you know, Like I always thought, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I guess when I'm older, I'll just switch my tastes
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  Speaker 1: and just listen to old rock or old you know,
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  Speaker 1: classic stuff, because I'm not going to like the new shit.
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  Speaker 1: Well didn't happen to me. I love new shitah, I
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  Speaker 1: really do. And I still listen to the old shit.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm in my car on my satellite Rado. I'm
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  Speaker 1: hitting you know, octane. I want to hear the new
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  Speaker 1: modern rock because I like it. It's not as popular
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  Speaker 1: as rock used to be back in the day, but.
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  Speaker 2: You want to hear it.
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  Speaker 4: That's a that's a big thing though, when you know
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  Speaker 4: I write about it actually in the book, the generation
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  Speaker 4: gap used.
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  Speaker 2: To be wider.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, when when I was growing up and
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  Speaker 4: I was twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen and listening to the
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  Speaker 4: led Zeppelin and the Who and the Stones and all
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  Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, my parents were listening to big
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  Speaker 4: bands still and Sinatra and the rat Pack and which
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  Speaker 4: is amazing great music. But they didn't get they didn't
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  Speaker 4: even get the Beatles, Like it was like that that
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  Speaker 4: was to you know, those long haired people. So so
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  Speaker 4: so nowadays it's so different. Like my girls will send
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  Speaker 4: me some music and like that, check this out right,
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  Speaker 4: and I love it. You know, we listened to and
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  Speaker 4: we've been the concerts together and and you know, we
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  Speaker 4: we have our common music that we like. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're not huge led Zeppelin fans. Caitlin hugely loves John Bonham.
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  Speaker 3: And Nail Parrot and Rush.
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  Speaker 2: Her first concert was Rush at the Meadows twelve years old.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to see them?
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any tickets right now, but.
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  Speaker 1: I was I might bite the bullet and buy after market.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I missed out on the whole pre
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  Speaker 1: sale stuff and I'm like, eah, but I heard the
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  Speaker 1: drummers fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: Annika Yeah, Anika, Anika, Yeah, no, she's she's like insane.
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  Speaker 4: So a funny story about Rush. So I I bring
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  Speaker 4: Caitlin in. I don't even know how old she was,
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  Speaker 4: maybe ten or twelve somewhere in that. And Lappie, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Latino he was. He helped me get some tickets. We
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  Speaker 4: have pain but he helped us get tickets. We got
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  Speaker 4: seventh row setter at the Meadows. So here's Caitlin. Concerts
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  Speaker 4: start and they're doing their little video.
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  Speaker 3: If you've ever seen Rush, well I've seen him like
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  Speaker 3: ten times. What uh was it? It wasn't Roll the Bones,
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  Speaker 3: was it? Uh? What was Well, there's twenty years ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: twenty years ago. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. That's when I
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  Speaker 3: was in. They had to wash the machines on the stage.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody somebody came out and like changed the did the
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  Speaker 4: you know how Getty wouldn't use amps and he would
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  Speaker 4: have rotisserie chicken.
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  Speaker 3: Things was a machine in place of the end. So
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  Speaker 3: it would always something silly.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, so so the concert, we're at the Metal
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  Speaker 4: so it's still light out, so the lights go.
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  Speaker 2: Out, like you know whatever lights that there were.
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  Speaker 4: They go down and you could see the band taking
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  Speaker 4: their places on the stage and Caitlin tugs my shirt.
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  Speaker 4: She's standing on the chair because everybody else is standing
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  Speaker 4: on the floor, the adults, and she goes.
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  Speaker 3: Dad, Dad, there he is, there he is.
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  Speaker 4: And she's got tears rolling down her face because she's
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  Speaker 4: seeing Neil Pierre live in person and she was like,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, she was ten, eleven, twelve, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I wish I should text her and ask her how
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  Speaker 4: old she was.
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  Speaker 2: But then she proceeded to air drum the whole concert
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  Speaker 2: to where when they took their intermission, people were asking me,
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  Speaker 2: tapping me, does she really know the people made?
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  Speaker 3: They were like, does she really?
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  Speaker 4: She was like yeah and hitting the you know, it
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  Speaker 4: was such a great moment. And we've seen Rush three
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  Speaker 4: or four times now together since then, so she's a
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  Speaker 4: big Rush fan.
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  Speaker 2: And the day he died, she called me up. I
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  Speaker 2: thought I thought it was worse, like something.
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  Speaker 3: Really like, you know, she's like, my mom did that
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  Speaker 3: with Dale Earnhard Junior.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, daylorn Hard when he died in in the day,
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  Speaker 1: Like because I was working.
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  Speaker 3: I remember. It's funny that you say that, because the
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  Speaker 3: same kind of thing. I'm like, what what what happened?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell her.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, right, that is it sounds.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, all right, we'll make it through. We'll
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  Speaker 3: make it through. Yeah. So like back to the book.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the stories you tell him, want to
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  Speaker 1: like give away the whole book, But what was Caitlin
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  Speaker 1: and how you I think you were talking about you
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  Speaker 1: were trying to switch from uh, you were trying to
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  Speaker 1: play other instruments, right yeah, and I'm you're a guitarist obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and she ended up picking up drumsticks and playing and
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  Speaker 1: you were just It's like one of those savant moments
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: where like she just got it right off the rip.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: It was amazing. People might think.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: That I'm lying, yeah, well, ship, but.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I've seen your daughter play. And So the last day
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: of school twenty five years ago.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: This this June, Yeah, last day of school, I bring
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: home this junkie old red set that we had in school.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: I didn't know how to play it, but I had
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: it in my classroom and I brought it home and
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I was like, over the summer, I'm gonna teach myself
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: how to play some beats, so when I go back
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: to school in September, I can show the kids in
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: my class how to play a couple beats on drums.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I just thought it'd be another fun thing to do
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: in activity to do in class. So last day school,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I bring it home. It's like two o'clock in the
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: afternoon something like that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I set it up in the basement. Let me take
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: a minute, see if I could do so.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Now I'm over at trying to play terrible, terrible, And
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: she comes down. She's sitting on the basement steps. I
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: can still picture it in my head.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: She was right to my left, and she goes, what
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: are you doing?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: And I go, I'm trying to like keep this hand
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: going and I'm doing the foot here in this hand here,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: and I'm trying to play, and she goes, can I try?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Those were the words. Can I try again? Another moment?
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: You never know what moment is.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Going to change your life?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Can I try? Yeah?
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Come here, get over here here, and and she literally
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: couldn't even really sit. And she put her butt like
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: on the edge of the stool and kind of leaning
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: against it, and you know, and she I swear to
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: anybody who's listening, this is the God's honest truth.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: She went spots spots.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: That I was struggling doing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: She started, I go, keep playing, keep playing, keep playing,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: and she.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Boots spots and I plugged my guitar and you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: the chord and everything, and be like, if you saw
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: this in a Disney movie or some movie, you'd go, bullshit,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: that's so far.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: There's no way and.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: She and she starts she's playing Boots and I strike
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: and posed and I go I start playing Cashmi and
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: by Zeppelin and Kaitlyn's spot and we must have played
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: it for like an hour straight, and you know, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: she just played to beat and we're smiling.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: My wife was doing laundry on the other side of
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the basement. She sticks her head and looks like, yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: What's going Yeah, yeah, and uh and that was that
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: was the bug. That's what started. And you know, we
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: had the like most people a lot of people have.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I asked my students, do you guys have a scary basement?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: And kids are like, yeah, I never go down my
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: basement and scary. And later on that day she went
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: down the basement by herself and also I hear and
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: a little, big, little That's how it all started. She
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: started going on YouTube watching videos, and then we met
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Tim Paul Mary. And first we met Adrian Tramontano, who
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: was one of Connecticut's biggest treasures, one of the greatest
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: musicians in the state. And then Tim Paul Mary and
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: either Tim's right up there, you know, I mean obviously
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: because they played together, and uh, but we.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Used to any instrument at all.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, he used to come over.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: So we met him at at a Guitar Center drum contest,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: and we met him and he became Caitlyn's teacher, and
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: he used to come over. He'd give her like two
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: hour three hour long lessons and they would be down
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: there playing.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I would hear guitar going, and then after a while
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: you knew, but I would listen for a moment. I'd
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: be like, all right, is that Adrian or Tim play?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I mean Adrian or Caitlyn. Adrian or Caitlyn playing And
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: it was just like, you know, these moments where she
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: got to play with like the New York Yankees, you know.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: And and I've said that, imagine if.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: You live next door to like Jeter and you're a
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: little kid, you're ten years old, eight years old, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Jeter says, hey, man, come out in the backyard and
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: come play catch with me. And you went over and
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: every day you played catch with somebody.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: That's what it was like, because that's who those guys are.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: There's so good.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: If anyone like has ever been to stone Bridge or
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: or you know, and seeing some like Adrian, I always
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: he he looks like Zach Galafanakis and he plays the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: drums and he plays and the dude is like uber talented,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't cover him enough. Tim Palmary uh mostly plays guitar.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he can play a million in too. Yeah
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: again he is. And these guys traveled the world and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: uh and what was the band that Tim was in
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: or might still be?
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Uh, Lotus is the.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: One who they had someone passed away the drums away
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: draft or something.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, some tragic stuff.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: But but I mean, these guys are no joke and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: they and Phil ConA and his stone Bridge is been
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: friends in the contact, these guys forever and that's how
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I met everybody.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: That's really kind of how I met you.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: But that brings up a question because I remember Adrian
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: used to be when he he would play solo sometimes
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Sundays outside and it was Adrian on drums.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Just did he.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Get that name because Caitlyn used to be Caitlyn on drum.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well Caitlyn on drum. I don't know which came first.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I know Adrian drumming came first.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Caitlyn on drums came from my cousin.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: We were we were at a funeral and uh, you
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: know yah, and uh so we were saying that, oh yeah,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: we're kind of starting this band because somebody said to me,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you if you're gonna have to be at every gig
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: with Caitlyn, so why don't you just play guitar with her?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: And we that's how we got Chris Barber.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Local legends up in Yeah, and we met him through
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Chuck to Nicolo another name.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: You know, and so.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Uh we were like, what's what are we going to
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: call the band?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: And my cousin said co O D.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like co D cash on delivery. They went, No,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: caitlyent on drums and we went there.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: That's how it became.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: We had shirts and s some people who are listening.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Like I remember a shirt.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I got a.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Cod's shirt and it was a little silhouette of Caitlyn and.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I remember, I don't So you tell a story in
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the book about like her first gig at a bar
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and you played with her.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Was that Stonebridge?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Oh it was Martini's.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: That was Martini's Martinis down in Orange.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, by Fridays, right, Yeah, that was Martini's.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Martini's Bob and the owner and yeah, Caitlyn played, I know.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I know she played the Stonebridge when she was young.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if that was her first show, though.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Katelyn played at Stonebridge a lot. Yeah when she was
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: but I remember she was like twelve or thirteen. Yeah. Yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I remember I was working one night and I'm like
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and I heard it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't really know what was going on, and I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: heard this like crazy drum shit going on.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Because I can't see past the crowd right right.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I was doing it working and then I don't know
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: if it's Phil or somebody came around and like, yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that girl's like twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old. I'm like what, Yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So I stopped, I walked around the bar and I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: just sat there for a.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Couple of minutes. My holy shit.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because my brother was a drummer, so I appreciate
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: drumming a lot.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Kate would also, she learned a lot. Also.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: She used to come with me to rehearsals for Out
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: of the Blue, Yeah, and.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: She would sit behind Jimmy Janwski I don't know if
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: you remember Jimmy and the band, Yeah, and she would
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: watch and I always loved it because Jimmy would would
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: kind of turn to her every once in a while
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: and be like, hey watch this part, you know, and
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: he would do a thing off yeah yeah, and he
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: would show yeah yeah. And then when you know, when
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: we took a break or something, you know, Kate would
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: go get on the drum set and play a little
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: bit too. So she had so many mentors, you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: she just blessed and and that's a big lesson, you
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: know that, And especially if it's people who are older,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: were experienced.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah you said that in the book.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: You're like, I didn't have enough money to afford like
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: or you know, I couldn't pay for this.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: That's education education, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Just getting playing with these pros, you know. And like
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I said, it's the Geter analogy. You're playing with the
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: New York Yankees, you know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And I equate that to golf, Like I I golf
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a lot, and if I golf with my same buddies
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: every week, I'm not getting any better. But when I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: play with people that are better than me, you don't
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: even realize you're picking up tips or they're you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and then you and then you go into your next
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: round and you're like, oh that god, yeah, I've been boom.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: You play a little better. I just keep playing with
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: my same drunk friends. But it does work in golf too,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: or anything, like really anything.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: It works with anything.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean, come on, look at our
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: our greatest sports team here in Connecticut, women's Yukon.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Got the greatest leader. I mean, there's it's no accident
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: that year.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: After year after year, what's gonna happen?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: You can and you know what, you're right because you can.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I mean there's other coaches that are great in women's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: college basketball that win titles, but nothing like Gino does,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and you can recruit the best players you want. I mean,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I like to look at it as what's his name.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: He was at Kentucky now he's at Arkansas. The head
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: coach men's for men's for men's John cal Parry. Okay, okay,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: he was you mass, then he went to somewhere else
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and he went to Kentucky. When he went to Kentucky,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: he just got all these one and done players just
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: loaded up every year and then like fifteen years won
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: one title and it was just by luck, not luck.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, like like it's okay,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and and but you know, like it's it's coaching and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and Gino is.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Just that he's getting up there now though, isn't he.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to retire. So it's gonna be interesting.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Who would take over that bron take over.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and will they be as sucessful? Well, I don't
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: think anyone could be.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: That's like taking over Belichick and or whatever.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: The point is, you know, there's important people in your
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: lives and if you surround your kids with those people
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: like that, people you know, and you know they're not
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: going to become and he's got a good track record
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: for making them good people, like you know, successful people,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: good people in society, you know, like just not you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Cala Parry's just.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Bringing in people one one and done's and then you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like some of them make the NBA, some of them don't, you.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Know, you know what I mean. It's just like whatever.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's get to all right, like kind of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's like three sections of your book, right,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: so section two not gonna lie glossed over a little.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Bit, okay, because it's more like uh music in general, Like.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just like like my my uneducated or slightly I
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: should say slightly educated philosophy of music and where where
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: it came from.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: And people, well, you know.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: They're so quick to cut things like music, but music
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: is such a big part of our lives, from even
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: before you're born.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: You can hear music, you know. I wrote this thing
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: maybe ten years ago.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: In there about rhythm and how I kind of think
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: rhythm comes from the mother's heartbeat.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: And I remember driving in the car.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Once with Caitlin and she goes, Daddy, we're listening to
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: some wshu or some classical stuff or something, and she goes, Daddy,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: this music is scary.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: She was like two or three, and she like recognized that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: How does she know it was scary?
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: And you know, I'm listening to it and it's intense,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: and it was, you know, the rhythms were jagged, And
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I started thinking about that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: And when you think about it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: When you're in the womb, you hear your mother's heartbeat,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: and it could be soothing.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: When she's calm, right and relaxed. But if something gets
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: her going, the adrenaline's got to be flowing again. Unscientific
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: because I put that in the book.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Back listen, none of this is scientific. I didn't do
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: any studying or anything for this, So don't sue me.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: But but but you know, the heartbeat. Now you're getting
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: a rush of adrenaline, and her heartbeats racing. Now you're
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: you're realizing that faster beats mean more excitement, more energy,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: more and slower beats are come and or you know,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: and it could just be like so you're you're learning
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: even before you're born. And so I wrote a thing
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: about rhythm and how rhythm is all around us and
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: it could be predictable, it could be unpredictable. And then
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I wrote a thing about melody, and to go back
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: to the rhythm thing, here's an interesting thing.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: So I had the book planned to come out.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: February twelfth, on February I think, sixth after I already
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: uploaded the book into Amazon.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: If anybody wants to get it Amazon, you.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Haven't plugged it yet. I'm about to be what are
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: you gonna?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so on Amazon you could get.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: It Raising a Musical Child. I found it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: You just typed that right in. It came right up.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: It's not expensive, it's a great read, and it's there
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in your in your house in like two three days, yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: oh yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Like two days.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: They printed right right on the spot. But God, what
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: was I saying so about the oh, the risk. So
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: there was a there was a study that just came
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: out this past February sixth from Italy Institute of Rome,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Institute of Technology in Rome or something like that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can look it up.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: And they they took forty nine babies and for nine months,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: they brought these mothers in expecting mothers and they played rhythms,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: specific rhythms for these mothers. After the babies were born,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: they hooked the baby up to an eg or.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Some kind of brain scam thing, I don't know what it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Is, and they put not they put.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: On headphones and and they play those rhythms and other rhythms,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: and the babies reacted to the rhythms that they were
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: bombarded with for nine months. So the it kind of
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: they're they're they're What they speculate is that babies can hear,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: babies can sense, and they know what's going on in
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the outside world even before they're born.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty amazing.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Caitlyn used to react and and my
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: other daughters, they used to react when when we would
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: put the headphones on Lisa's belt and she was pregnant,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: and you know, she would be.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, she's kicking, she's kicking, she's dancing, you know, and.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Dependent on the music, you know. So so that was
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: the first section. The second section is about melody. And
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: I always thought melody was a learned thing, and sure
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: enough this article that I was recently reading.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, hey, I'm a genius. You know, I've
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: been saying this for years, you know. And then the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: last part is just about harmony and how the world.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: When the world is.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Together, you know, you're in a good place. And when
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: harmony fits in nice.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Now but exactly.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly, you know.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: And when the world when the harmony doesn't fit, it
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: creates like a sense of chaos, and in music.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: It does, you know. And I need a movies.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I'm writing music for movies now also, and and you know,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: when I need a scene, those notes don't fit, you know.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: When I need a chaotic scene.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I try to get as much clash and dissonance as
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: I can. But when I have another scene that's calming
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: and beautiful, you.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Got to make the harmony fit.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: So that's part two of the book, and then part
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: three is the all the activities, all the things.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: That we did.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I like towards the end in that part how you
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: talk about I think it was like four points, like
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: basically simple steps of raising your child, and one of
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: them was.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Or you don't do it for yourself. Yeah, do it
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: for your kid, because.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: What happens is you may have higher aspirations for what
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: your kid could want accomplish or to want to accomplish. Right,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: So stop thinking for yourself like oh, I can't wait
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to travel around the world with my son or daughter.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just let them go, let them do
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: what they want to do. You introduced it to them,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: or maybe they found it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: On their own.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Either way, if you want to join them in the journey, awesome,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: If you want to encourage them in the journey, awesome,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: But take a step back and make sure it's not
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: about you, right.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: And and the person who taught me that, I'm gonna.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Be honest, this is my wife.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: Wow, because if if my wife Lisa, if it was
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: up to me, I would have pushed the ship out
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: of all of them, you know, have the next big
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: like kid group.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: But she she would always say, you.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Know, I'd be like, oh man, they haven't practiced in
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: a couple of days or they and she'd be like, yeah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: it's all right, let them be kids, let them let.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Them live there, let them live.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: And you know, so I need it to be you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I'm being honest.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: I needed to be reminded of that because you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of parents do it with sports. You know,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: they do it with sports, They do it with dance,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: they do it with with music. You know, sometimes you
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: and you want the best for your kid.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: You want something but the best for them.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: And we think we know it all because we've lived it,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: and sometimes we do know a lot more than them.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: But they need to come to their own realization. I mean,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I know, I think we're both at the age and
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I thought about this a.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Little while ago where when we were young and teenagers
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and even young adults and and we still thought we
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: knew it all. And we grew up and our grandparents
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: told us, you guys don't know nothing, and we were
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: told to respect our elders and we were just kids.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: And blah blah blah.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And now we're the elders and it's like, one, obviously,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: holy shit, they were right, And two, holy shit, these
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: kids don't listen, you know, like your kids do. I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: mean my girlfriend's son does, but like, but I shit.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I work at Sikorski and I did.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: With people there.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: It's like like no respect, you know, like hey, I
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: like to think at some point everyone will kind of
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: figure it out. But at some point or I should
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: also say, I just I.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Being a bartender pretty much my whole life.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And you've seen it all.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I've seen it all and I can judge it. I
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: can't judge a book by its cover. I really can.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: It's not hard to do. And I don't like that
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: phrase at all when it comes to people. And I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: can definitely do it well.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you can just feel it, yeah, or you can
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: feel it, which is crazy.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: There's a whole uh thing called Celestine prophecy where it
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: has to do with energy and you know, and some
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: people's energies go in like a magnet.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: When you're trying to put it no matter what, you
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: can't look at that.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: They turn it around and other people, you know, collect
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: and they connect and you know, you know, and you've
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: met people where where you I recently, I was out
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: somewhere I want.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: To say where, but this guy sat.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Down next to me and I was just like, oh,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: I just knew. And right away he started being rude
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: and obnoxious to the bartender in the in the waiter
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: that was taking care of him, and and I was like,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: how did I know he was going to be like that?
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: And I just felt, you know, and I'm not one
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: of those people who.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: You know, but but but you've you've been at bars
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: just as much as I am in that in that setting.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: But every once in a while you can see it,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: you can just.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Tell, you can feel it, and uh, yeah, no, it's
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: it's uh, it's a it's a crazy thing.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: You know, there's more to life than what we know, right,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: you know, and that that's the thing.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: So but uh, by the way, you're drinking there, Yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: what is the Springbrook at Arondacked high Rye?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: So I was at my buddy, you go to total
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: wines at all or.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Your stafford though, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he uh, he
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: got in touch with these guys from upstate New York.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: So I was there yesterday. He's like, try this.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: So I bought a bottle of you know, it's uh,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: you know, it's delicious, but it's you know, it's five
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, somebody might be watching this at eight o'clock
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: in the morning.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: It's autographed by the owner.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Oh nice, Like really that's his real autograph or that's
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: his like.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: The autographs nowadays, you know, it's extra swirl and no one.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Doesn't like like the classics like ours are.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so let's kind of wrap up, like how
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: so so towards the end of the book, is you're
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: giving more of advice or or your.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Own personal advice.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not this is how you're going to raise your kid,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: but like you you just suggestions, suggestions right right with
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: suggestions and.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: You know, little games you could play from different ages
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: all the way up to when they get a little
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: older and you're going to start a you know, maybe
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: help them start a band if you want to, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: try to find other people.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, so it's all it's kind of.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Things like that. But I stress. Also, you don't need
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: to be a musician to help your kid enjoy music.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: You love music, just like you don't need to be
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: the greatest athlete to help your kid.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Enjoy being playing sports.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: You know, just get them involved with the right thing
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: and do the right thing.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Do you have a fear that music now with kids
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: is kind of we're losing the way with social media
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: videos TikTok. I don't ever see Brayden, who's my girlfriend's son.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: But you know, he's sixteen now, been with him for
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: eight years and I've watched him grow.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Up and love him to death.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: But you know, comes home, plays video games, right watches
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: his phone while he's eating dinner. We yell at him
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: all the time. It's kind of a fruitless battle. But
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I don't ever hear him. You know, he goes to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the gym. I don't even know if he listens to music.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: You know, I think he's just like the cycles through.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I just feel like I don't want this generation of
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: young kids. I don't even know what generation they'd be,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: or they in the Z area, I guess the category.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But to lose out on something that for the quick
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: seven second videos of some dude pissing in.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: A bucket, I don't even know what they watch.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I don't watch the videos. I'm on my phone a lot.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna like live that, but I'm on.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Twitter reading news stories or you know, in my own
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: echo chamber, you know, reading stuff.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: But I don't. I mean, I see it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I see I see grown men at work, grown men
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: older than me scrolling through TikTok.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: At work instead of working. I'm like, what, Yeah, I
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: don't know, man, this scares me.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh. Well, as a.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Teacher thirty years now, you see. You know, when I
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: first entered the profession, I thought every kid was going
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: to be into music at one hundred percent and a
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: thousand percent. But you know, I work hard at like
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: trying to expose the kids to things, and some of
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: the kids it sticks, and some of.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: The kids it doesn't. Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I had a group of girls last year at my school.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: They've gone on to high school now, but they were
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: eighth graders that they ended.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Up playing a full set of music at Porchfest.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: And you know, they played anything from a lot it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: more set to.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Like Radiohead to.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: You know, like it was like good stuff, some some paramour,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: you know, other stuff that they love and yeah, and
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: it was like awesome. And you know, I have students
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: that are totally like mister k. I was like, just
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: today I had a kid named Tyler who is playing
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Kashmir by Zeppelin on guitar. But then I got other
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: kids who it's just not their thing, right, And you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: I asked them to try. That's all I ever ask,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Just give it a try. You don't know what you're
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: gonna fall in love with, right, So, you know, my
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: the way I look at my job is expose them
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: to a lot of stuff. Today in class, we we
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: we went through when the Levee Breaks because we're doing
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: drums right now, so we're doing led Zeppelin When the
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Levee Breaks. So I went all the way back, gave
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: a little history of the where the song came from.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Nineteen twenty seven, there was a huge flood down in
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Mississippi and.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: A guy named.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Kansas Joe and another woman named Minnie Memphis. Mini wrote
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: this song called When the Levee Breaks. Well, fifty years later,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: led Zeppelin jams on this jam. They need lyrics. Robert
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Plant steals the lyrics from them when.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: The Levee Breaks.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: So I'm exposing them to it, and I'm hoping that
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: some of the kids go home and are like, let
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: me check out that led Zeppelin.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Song when the levee breaks.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: You know, I play about you know, the song seven
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: and a half minutes long. You know, middle school kids
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: can't sit in seven and a half minutes. I play
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: a couple minutes of it though.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: And then I challenged to play that beat, you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: if you know that famous beat boom boo boo.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Boom, you know, And so I challenged them to try
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: to play that beat along with other drum beats that
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: we're doing. We do guitars in my class, we do keyboards,
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: we do bass, guitar are we do ukulele.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: And drums, and then they.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Form bands at the end of the Yeah, so you know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: I try to I throw it out there.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I throw a lot of stuff at them, and.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: With some of the kids it sticks. Yeah, some of
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: the kids it doesn't. But that's it's okay. You know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: some kids are so involved. But I will tell you
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: I get I'm playing at stone Bridge, you know, I'm
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: playing there with with my with my duo Ro Acoustic.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Come out and check us out some night. My singer
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Herb and he's a great singer. But I'll be playing
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: there and somebody will come up to me, you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I'll be looking up at him now, you know, and
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: they'll be like, you know, mister k I still know
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: how to play that drum beat you taught me. I
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: still know how to play those chords that you taught me.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I know how to play Smoke on the waters. You
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: know something, and you know that makes me feel like
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: that's the greatest thing, you know, And just knowing that
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: there are there are kids. Yeah, I had a last week.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: I was playing the restaurant I'm gonna give another plug.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I play every other week at a place called Hysteria
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Ramana in Monroe, and this woman walks in and all
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, I hear mister Kay, mister Kay. And
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I was like, I didn't recognize her. I haven't really
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: seen her since she was like twelve, right, and she's
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: like thirty something now, you know. And she goes she goes, hey,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: I remember how to play that drum beat put that band.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: I know how to play that drum beat. And she
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: was like showing me I know how to put and
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: it was like the greatest thing. We sat down and
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: talked for like fifteen minutes, crazy back then, and she
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: remembered so much stuff.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: So, you know, you don't know what kids are going
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: to remember.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And what's I just you know, from personal experiences and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: see what's going on.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the days I put it so Brayden was
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: he went to uh East.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Shore, okay middle Yeah, yeah, and.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: He started playing the trumpet and then he switched to
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the uh, what's the big one? Not the big big one,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: but the the horn.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, the big one. He like, fuck the tuba.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: He played the tuba, right, And so it's funny like
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: in the musical world, and you're a teacher, so you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: can you can definitely get This is when I saw
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: him in sixth grade at his little concert.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, great, you know this is great.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: But by eighth grade, I'm like they're playing like Star
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Wars Ship. I'm like, wow, you guys really learned a lot.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: This actually sounds pretty cool.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: You see the growth, right. But he ended up going
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: to plat Tech.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: And they don't have a band, so so he kind
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of actually I guess he was allowed to stay in
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the band at FOURID like whatever. Somebody he was like, no,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: he played football and baseball and did all that stuff,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: which I totally understand. I'm not mad at him, but yeahutely,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: but from a school, you know, a teacher's point of view,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, like you guys know.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: What you're doing, you know, like and it's hard to
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: get six, you know, six greaters.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe the the level of improvement just from
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: basically three years.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: And and and it's not a lot of time to kid,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: it's not like an hour a day. Not you're lucky.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: You're lucky if you get two or three hours a
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: week with them.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: And yes, so now there's a lot of great teachers
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Aaron Milford and and you know around doing a lot
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: of great things.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody kind of has their own like go to philosophy.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: And you change people in in a lot of different ways.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, we look at the the woman over at
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Locke, Kelly Jones, what she does with those kids,
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is absolutely I'm in awe when I
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: watch her do her things. She's just absolutely amazing. And
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of great teachers here in Milford, and
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: I just love seeing the kids just.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Get better and better and better.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: And they come in they can't even figure out how
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: to play a one note on a guitar and by
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: the end.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: To playing songs.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Oh man, So let's talk a little bit about this
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: screenplay you got going on.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: We're not We're not, We're not gonna new news. I mean,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: so what what's it about? So if you can dive old, I'll.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Just tell you there was the greatest moment of my
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: teaching career.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Thirty years.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: I've been teaching here in Milford, and I had a
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: student that has situation. She had situational.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Mutism, it's called she had an anxiety disorder, I guess where.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: She just couldn't talk, like in big groups, in situations.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: And I literally went three years. Would you equate that
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: to the stage fright in a.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Way kind of in a way if somebody got up
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: and just froze. But I went three years without knowing
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: what her voice sounded like, you know, And we developed
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: this relationship and it was and you know, she would
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: she would, you know, smile, and she would give answers,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: and she would write things and take tests and play
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: instruments and do all the things.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: She just wouldn't speak.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: And I can't give out any more than that when
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: something happened. But it's the story about those three years
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: that I literally I sat there in my classroom with
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: you at last day of school and cried.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: My eyes you're about about to cry right now.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Was that you can see it it was that big
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: of a moment.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: So, you know, I got involved three years ago with
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: writing scores for films, short films.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: And I thought about what if I.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Wrote a short film, what would I write about? And
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: this memory came back to me about this moment that happened,
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: And so I wrote the first draft and I sent
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: it off to my director friend and he was like, yeah, it's.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: All right, but why does anybody care about these people
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: and any So little by little I kept revising it
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: and finally I sent it off to him the other
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: day and he sent me a message.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Today and he goes, yeah, I think we could do
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: something with this. Yeah, he was like, I.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Think we can make something happen. So now the next
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: step is how do we get funding for it?
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: If anybody wants to fund?
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: The great story and it's you know, and you go
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: to festivals and have a lot of fun and you know.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: So speaking of my first festival was a festival called
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Beauford International Film Festival Beauford, South Carolina. They do an
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: amazing job. Six hundred films tried to get in. They
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: accepted sixty films. I got nominated for Best Score.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: So there was six other films that were best school
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: am I So seven people in the category nominated. We
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: go down there, my wife and I we go down
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: to the Buford sitting there in the awards ceremony on
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: a Sunday night, and they announced the winner of the
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Best Score and I won and I couldn't actually, you know,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: it was the first time I ever did them.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get to go up on stage and I
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: got accept that the award got to make a little speech.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: Did you have a speech prepared? I had a couple thoughts.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: I was like, just in case, what would I say?
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I didn't think I was gonna win. This was a
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: short film. It was a twelve minute short film, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: there were a couple other shorts, and there was a
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: couple full length features. I'm like, they're gonna give it
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: to the full length. One of the features was a
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: guy from Night in Snails was Yeah, not not rest
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: there No, but the drummer from the band. He was
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: also a composer for films. And when they called out yeah,
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Actually the name of the film and people can look
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: it up, it's called Past Prologue.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: And it's with red Shoes. Red Shoes.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Red Shoes is the name of the production company. So
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: if you put in past prologue red Shoes.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: It was a.
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  Speaker 4: Couple who met sixty years ago. She's black, he's white.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: They couldn't be together sixty years ago.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Sixty years ago, they.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Fell in love. They it was their true love.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Sixty years later they meet up.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: And they talk about what could have been, what should
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: have been, and then there's like a little surprise ending
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: at the end. But where it came from, it was
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: a great story. The director Brian Russell, he was at
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: a film festival in Colorado and he saw an interracial
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: couple and he had a table, he was having breakfast
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: and a little diner, and he saw an interracial couple
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: and he thought to himself, forty fifty sixty.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Years ago, now what happened?
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: You know, how many people got denied true love, either
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: either with because of the same sex, you know, want
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: to be together, or inter racial or.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: You know, for a lot of reasons.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Even even there was a time when different cultures, you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: an Italian could you know somebody from you know, and
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: and so you know, it just was it's a great
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: story of love and how these people they realized that
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: they it was they were their true their one and
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: only true loves, even though they both.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Went on to have families and marriages and everything.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: And uh so it's it's on YouTube, you know, you
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: got to watch it, like like twelve minutes, twelve minutes.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Long, ques past prologue, paste past.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Prologue, and like I said, yeah, Red Shoe is is
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Brian's production company, Red Shoe Productions, and.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a great movie.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Did another one recently about a man suffering with Alzheimer's
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: did that music? And and then another one where a
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: movie called that just one best ensemble cast at a
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: film festival called Sit with Me While I Die. In Connecticut,
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: you are not allowed, no matter how terminally ill you are,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: to end your life.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I know, but in Vermont you could.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: In New Jersey, yeah, so I've actually done a podcast
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: So a friend of mine, Jennifer.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Husband died of als okay, and and he didn't just suffer,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: he was he was pronounced dead and he.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Came back to life like breathing.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: So I don't want to get like two. But it's
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Mudge.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: She was on my show.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Her husband passed away is about ten years ago, and
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: she goes to city Hall every year to fight for
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: this right for assistant suicide or wherever you want.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: To call it.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: And she described the end of his life and the
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: way als does it is it basically destroys your whole
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: body and the last thing to go is your lungs
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: and your brain. So you you literally have a last
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: breath and you can't do anything about it. So he
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: had a last breath and then they were doing whatever,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and he jumped back up, not jumped, but you know,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: he came back to life and lived another week dealing
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: with all of that, like he's struck. Every breath is
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: a struggle, but your brain is still there.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: You understand what's going on. You just can't. You have
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: no muscle function. So she's she's awesome human being.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: She still fights for it every year, tries to get
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Blumenthal involved, and she goes to Capitol and for whatever
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: reason she she can't cross the line in this topic
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: in Connecticut.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I don't understand it.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: She should reach out to her, She should reach out
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: to a gentleman named Jim Nawton who's an.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Actor out of Westport.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: And what's Jim.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Nawton n A U g h t O N famous actor?
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: He was in like The Devilware's Praduct. He put Streep's
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: husband in that movie. He's been in a lot of
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: other movies, a lot of TV shows, and he's in
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: a lot of the movies that I've been scoring.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: And uh.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: He plays a priest who was torn between his oath
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: or you know.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: His loyalty to God, and you know what, he to
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: preserve life and.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Let this woman go.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: And the woman puts him on the spot and says,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: you know, when he says, what can I do for you.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: She says, sit with me while I die.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: And and it's just this beautiful, beautiful film about the
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: struggles that this man's going through and the struggles that
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: this husband and wife are going through.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: And you know, nobody wants that. Nobody wants that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: No, and this in the struggle And you know, I
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: don't That's what I mean. That's a whole nother show
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: and topic. But like I and I've done it before,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I I just.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: Don't understand it.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Like if you need the one is make make it
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: legal and then and then fall back on it and
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: then come back and say all right, well yeah, als
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: towards the end of life, shut you know, like like
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: just to to to you know, to have people suffer
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and you're not in their body, like it's just it's
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just typical bullshit. It's legislation. It's
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: all this crap and it's like red tape and it's
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: like just fucking make it happen and then and then
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: let's figure it out and then like but no, it's
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: it's it's like all or nothing, and it's like and
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I feel for her, and she'll be up there again
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: when they you know, she tries to pass get this
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: law passed.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: But anyway, but yeah, it's it's it's it's sad.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: But yeah, yea, they say, you know, Jim Daughton does
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: a lot, he does a lot of talks.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I know there's one coming up.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: I think the Greenwich Library biving up also off to
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: let you know so you can pass it up.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah I will. She's she's probably seen you.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Play a million times stone Bridge.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I'd like to meet her.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will will. Yeah, I see you guys together.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: I'll link you guys up.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, so back to you.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, picking it up a little bit. We went
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: down a little.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's a needed conversation, you know.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the one of the lines though, just
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: to go back to that is the woman.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Says, uh, people treat our dogs better than humans, you know,
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: and it's.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I treat my dog better than human.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so think about it. When August is getting near
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: the end, what do you do? You do the humane thing?
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: There's nothing you could do.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: It's not like you're what's what's so so to me?
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: A lot of this again here we are going back
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: to this. Yeh's is the medical industry? You know, if
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: we just let the person go, how much money is
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: the medical industry losing? Like I go all the way
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole into the roots of of of
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: why this is you.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Know, granted is legal in some states.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: You know, it's legal in some countries obviously, but why
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: this isn't like a national thing? I don't I don't know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: And and and the fact that she has.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: To go through this. But yeah, we just circle back
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all right though.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: I mean it's an important topic and it's something you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: people should consider.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: And think about. Yeah.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: You know, my wife always says, if I ever get
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: in that situation, just put a pillow.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we always see then you're going to
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: go to jail though, and then you have three daughters
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: that dad's in jail because he killed me, you know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: like it is. But you're right, like, well you shouldn't
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: even I mean, there's there's humane ways not only to
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: like put a dog down, but but the human's down
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: there that want to go.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: That was that are that aren't going to get any better.
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: It's not like you're taking somebody who's you know, healthy,
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: and and I think that might be the the the
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: situation is like, well, what happens when somebody com you know, says, yeah,
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: I got rid of my wife.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: She was sick, you know, but she only had a cold.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: No, I mean there's obviously a processes exactly.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: You know, that's the process that.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: You got to sign waivers and have medical personnelity, multiple
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: multiple checkpoints, and you know, yeah, there's a way of
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: doing it the right way.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Other states have figured it out. You and I right,
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: we're not because we're not criminals. We're not going to
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: you know, the gas chamber or anything.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: What's your last meal? If you if you're like, you
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: know what I've done, I'm going out. I know I'm
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: going out tonight. What's your last meal?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: My last meal? Man, it would be something that took
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: a long time to cook. No, you want to go.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: You want to go? All right, you want to go.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: You're going it. You're going eight o'clock tonight. They're they're
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: putting you down. It's five o'clock right now, you got time?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Oh man?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: What would be? My wife will think it's funny, but
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: but her meat loaf. I mean she always whenever she
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: just goes like, all right, it's gonna be a cold day, like,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: what do you want? Just something simple, something comforting.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll just go just.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Make me a meat loaf.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: That is great answer, just because it's like it's so simple,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: mashed potatoes, pease or something.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: You know, and and that's it. You know, what about you?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: What would you do? A man?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I mean the easy answers are like, you know, New
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Haven pizza, right, yeah, stuff like that. I'm not saying
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: you stole my answer, but I like where you went
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: with it, Like meat loaf was like.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Kind of my growing up comfortable.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: My mom always made ship. I asked the question, I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: don't know if I have the answer, I think i'd
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: go a little more high end.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I love a nice file a, not a big one,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: like an eight ounce. I don't need the I don't
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: need the file at.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: You don't want to you know they're gonna know.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I want to all everybody when my fucking muscles chair
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: you want to be I would go for like file
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: at uh, a nice little like blue cheese crust.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not going surf and turf, just my filet where.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: We're going to dinner after hungry.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: But I need dessert and I want to go out
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: with the best tiram massou you can find me because
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite desserts. But the problem with
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: the dessert is everywhere you go it's different. It's like
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: it's like extremely different, like cheesecakes.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like right right right, the canos, right, but
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: I mean you get different levels.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: But yeah, ramas sue the weird.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's you know, sometimes it's a little box cake
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: you get you know, sometimes holy ship, sometimes it's a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: wine glass. It's weird, but yeah, I think probably the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: end of the day, though, I'm like, get me. Modern
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: pizza is my favorite one.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah too, when people talk about New Haven, it's modern. Yeah,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: it's modern. Sausage. Yeah, oh yeah, the sausage is just
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: like the best.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: It's funny that a couple of years more than a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: couple of years ago, there was a kid, Mikey who
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: used to work over at stone Bridge and I think
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: he's he's the best pizza maker that I ever Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And he was with us
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: for a while. Yeah and now yeah, he's somewhere in Florida. Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: And I would tell his dad all the time, I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: would invest in a store for him. I would, I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: would invest in a restaurant if he guaranteed he would
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: stay there and.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Make that pizza.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: And I think what he told me once is that
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Richie sent him to New Haven. Yeah, he and he
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: shadowed like a couple of the different places.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe modern.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: It might have been Sally Sally's, because I know Richie's
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: friends with the.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: Old, like the original Sally's people.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Now they're corporate, but they sold but yeah, I one
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: of the old I think it's I think it's the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: owner of Sally's son I was like in his eighties
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: now yeah, yeah, he comes into stone Bridge still to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: this day. But they sold out. I don't want to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: they sold out. I shouldn't say like that. They sold Yeah,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I mean whatever, the kids didn't want it, what are
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you supposed to do exactly?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a seller.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Now they're planning on two hundred and fifty stores across
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the country.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are all going to taste the same.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please and water different.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, well, modern selling again, if you can figure
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: out that model, I mean, wooka McDonald's.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: You can go somewhere anywhere in the world, a big Macs,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: a Big Mac.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they figured it out.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they get all their food from the same spot, right,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: you know that's what they would have.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not flying frozen pizzas out to you know, Tucson, Arizona.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. It's it's my favorite. They're
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: all great, don't get me wrong, any of them.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: No, No, we got great pizza places, right, Aaron Milford.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: We do. You know you got Papa's, you got Ggs.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know what New.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Haven Pizza, Jimmy's.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: You know A sleeper of mine is East Sure, because
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like Greek style pizza, I do, listen,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm a pizza snob. But I'm not
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: like New Haven pizza snob.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: If it's good.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Flavor, good crust, and you know, everything is good, I'm fine.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: I don't care if it does not be thin or all.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: That little butter.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's like almost like it's not you know, it's Greek,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: so it's a little thick.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: But on the edges it's.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Got that chart not jar that you know, that uh
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: caramelization to it.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's good pizza, like got great Strafford.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so we get that every once in a while.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Just for that other I'm not going to name the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: bad pizza places because it's not you know, it's not
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: the show for that.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: No, there's there's a couple I don't care for the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: really thin crusted cracker kind of Oh I.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Know what you're talking about.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I will say one thing about them, And when they
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: came to town, I was like, and then if you're
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: going to eat it, eat it there, yeah, eat it
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: at the bar. Yeah, and it's fine. It's fine. Yeah,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: it's good, it's fine. Yeah, if you take it home,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: you better off eating the cardboard box and eat it.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: And if people haven't and if people haven't figured out
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: yet what we're talking about the hot oil.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I'll give them the hot oil.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: The oil is really good, the stinger, but the other
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: stuff other ones sal on it.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Just I prefer I've talked everyone I talk about all
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: the time on the show.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I love the people that work there. I go there,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: you know, I go there place.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I said, if I'm going to eat a pie, it's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: got to be there, and I'm fine with it.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: It really is.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: But it's not I'm not calling colony for four pizzas
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: for takeout to bring home to my family, right, I'm
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: just not doing it.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, so anyway, yeah, look at us talking
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: about everything. We're in the pizzas.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I told you.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Actually, I actually I gave you more airtime about your
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: book than I give more airtime to anybody about when
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: they come on the show.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: That's an important topic.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: It is again, hold on, put up Raising a Musical
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Child out Amazon.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: You can buy it on Amazon.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: That's not expensive, it's yeah, and it's you read it
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: last night.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can read it once, which is for today's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: society the way you probably should write books now.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: But you know that was funny because when it was
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: coming out, I said to my wife, I'm really nervous
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: about how it's going to be received. And she's like why,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: I said, well, it's you know, it's only like eighty
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: seven pages or something like that.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: I said, it's not.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: She goes, it's perfect for this world.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm reread perfect for this one came mail literally
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: came in the mail two days ago, and I put
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: it on my coffee table.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh cool, And then.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: When I open it up, I'm like, this might be
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: the perfect I wish everyone wrote a book like this,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: seriously forgetting. And I'm an old school guy and I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: used to read books all the time when I was younger,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: but I'm just like distracted now and with work, and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I blew through it, Like I.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Said, I skimmed through the Yeah, like you know, what's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: a melody? I don't give a fuck. But that's me,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: But then but I read all the good stuff that
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I thought was you know that. I like the story
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: you told about her first gig at the rainy fucking house.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were under the tent and they almost
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: canceled it and they played anyway.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: You know those people, Roger and Wendy, the Millson's you
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: know was with Chuck with Chuck Chuck, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: And Sharon was on base God rest her, you know. Yeah,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: I don't remember Sharon.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not base.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: She she was on singing and guitar. I think Chris
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: Barber was on bass, and uh yeah. Caitlyn was like twelve,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: and we played a party and Caitlyn went and played
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: a song with them, and a couple of days later,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Chuck calls up and goes, our drummer can't make the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: gig next weekend. Do you think Caitlyn could play, and
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: brought her over to Chuck's house. They rehearsed that night
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: and then they went and did the gig and it
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: was Yeah, I thought for sure it was going to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: get rained out.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Yea.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: It was poor. Yeah, And then.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Chuck calls and goes, yeah, we'll see you there like six.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: So I's drum I was her roadie, got her there to.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: The gig and they played the gig and it was.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: It was a great gig. That was her Yeah, that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: was her moment. That was her first gig ever.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Nice yeah, nice.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: So you know, like I said, do you never know
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: where life is going to take you? And I love
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: in the book that you pointed out before we went
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: on the air, that you looked in the back and
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: you saw when it was when it was printed twenty.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Fourth th right, Yeah, it was printed on February twenty
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: fourth in North Avin, Connecticut. In North Aven. Today's the
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: twel there is there is at the end of the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: book it says, hold on where does it say it?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: So it's amazing with Amazon for anybody whoever wanted to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: publish a book, do it through Amazon. You literally upload
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: the manuscript, you upload the cover, and you're done.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: It's it's a beautiful thing. It gives, it gives.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it says a twenty twenty five update.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Since I first started writing this book many years ago,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: a lot has happened. My daughters, Carl I'm sir, I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: can't even Carly Gory have gone on whatever. It says
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: all this stuff here, and I'm like, I almost texted you.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wait a second, did you release this book
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: a while back? Yeah? And then when I flipped the
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: page and it said.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: You know, twenty twenty or literally three days ago, four
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: days ago, I'm like, oh, this must be one of
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: those instants.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know much of that.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: Well, I wrote that, you know, probably in December, so
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: it was still twenty twenty five right right now, that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: final And Carly is doing a great thing.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Uh, she's uh.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Gonna be uh opening her own place.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: She lives in Philadelphia, her own business.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: And my daughter Corey is living.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: In New York.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: And and you know, if I could talk about that
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: just really quick. Of course, Carly bass player, never touch
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: base before and got into the Kick and Daisies band.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: They needed a bass player. Caitlin convinced her just give
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: it a try. Next thing, you know it, she's playing bass.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: She played flute in the school band. She played a
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: little bit of piano. And then my youngest daughter, Corey,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: who you've probably met before, she goes yea and she
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: she doesn't pursue music.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she doesn't pursue music. And she is.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: She hates when I say this. She's the most talented
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: out of my three girls.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: Like she she'll come home.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: She lives in Manhattan. She'll come home on Tuesdaday night.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: She works in Stanford Tuesday Wednesdays. She'll come on on
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: a Tuesday night. She'll pick up my guitar and start playing.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: And I'll go, what's that she goes, I don't know,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I go, where'd you learn it? She goes,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure, and she'll just start playing something. I'll
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: be like, I've been playing guitar forty years, forty five years,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: and I'll be like, show me what you just played,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: and she just she goes, just last week, she was going.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: The funny thing is, I don't know.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: How I've learned how to play guitar, and she could
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: sit at the piano play.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: She doesn't know how she learned this stuff, and it
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: just you know, you can do these things when they're
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: when they're little.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: And expose them to you know, And I've always had
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: this philosophy.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: You know, this might be a good way to kind
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: of wrap up the whole thing, or we'll keep talking
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: for hours more.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: And but.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: If you don't tell a kid what they can't do,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: they don't know. You know, they don't know, they don't know.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: You just tell them you can do that, and they're
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: going to believe you, because when they're when they're not
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: when yeah, I mean, you know, and I learned that
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: less than one time I was coaching softball. Caitlyn was
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: playing to ten years old or something, and the second
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: basement on the other team was literally standing on second base.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: That's where she thought she had to play, and the
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: other coaches on the other team didn't correct her.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: So there was this huge gap between first base, first basement.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: You know, they're little kids. She's standing on first.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: The girl that's playing second is thinking, all right, I
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: got to stand on second, you know, And so there
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: was this so I called time out.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: I go down to her. I'm just coaching third. I
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: go down and I go, hey, look over my shoulder.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: See when a girl's playing.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: I says, just hit it there.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: And Kate would hit it right into that empty spot
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: between first and second, and later on the mother goes,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: what did.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: You say to her?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: And I said, I told her to hit it there,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: and she goes, you can do that, and I go no,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: but she didn't know.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: That, and it was enhing exactly.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: It was another lesson that I kind of learned, you know,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: was like, but to be.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Fair, popped it up and then that story exactly, that
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: story does it exist.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, she hit it there.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: She kind of was squared up and hit it.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know, and yeah, you know, it doesn't always.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Work like that.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: No. But again if you don't, you know, if you
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: tell it, oh, you can't do that. You're too young
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: for that. You're too young for that. We were playing
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: stone Bridge once. Kitlyn was setting up her drums and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: the girl there was a family eating dinner, wrapping up
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: dinner in the uh in the dining room there, you
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: know where we used to set up and play, and
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: the girl. Caitlin heard the girl say to mother, look
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: look Ma'm a girl drummer. And the mother goes, oh, honey,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: girls don't play drums. So Kate almost that I see her,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: She's like setting up her drums miles an hour and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you doing?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: She goes and she told me.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: The story real quick, and she goes, I want to
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: play before they leave. And so this was Kate when
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: at twelve years old, well where enough that.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: I want to set example right for this this lady.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: So so Kate got set up really quick and then
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: just quickly playing for like thirty seconds could do. And
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: the little girl was like tugging at her mom's like sleeve,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: like girls can't play drums.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Yeh, look at what you know.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: And Caitlyn remembers that moment. She remembers doing that, and and.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: I you know, I would love to think that that girl,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: that little girl is like achieving something.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: She's drumming for Rush right now, right, who knows? Can
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: you imagine her?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine where did you get your start?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Was in this restaurant? My mother told her girl talking?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you never know.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: That's the whole point. And that's the point of the book.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: That you can get on Amazon Music.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: I like, by the way, I like the is that.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: The Beatles tribute the little Little Bit year and yes,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 8: I like you with the guitar little bio on the
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: back before I get into my little final monologue.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what you call it, but uh,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: can we get co d back once if she's in town?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that would be that would be amazing.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: We do that Coe d Ho Chris Barber, Barbara will
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: definitely drive down for that. That's not even issue. Would
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: be amazing that Sunday on the patio in like July. Yeah,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: I know your daughter's busy, but that would be cool, though,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: wouldn't they? And c k Hels Caitlyn, Now, Kate, what
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: is thirty three? Jesus Christ, you are no.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Either.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: She's gotten old, you know. Yeah, wow, I still got
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: all my hair, so you too. Yeah, I just hide
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: it well. But yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: The other one I would love to do is see
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: K three with Sammy Blanchadow.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Remember that.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another one.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: We talked about.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: Getting that together. Also doing that that was that was
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: a fun.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: We would sell out the place cod Patio Sunday Sunday Patio,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: six o'clock, us playing our Rush to Laster, rolls, lobster bombs,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: everyone's drinking, having a good time.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: You guys roll in. So I used to I used
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: to call around different places.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: So I see Toad's Place is getting this pop star
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: in there. That's Caitlin's age, you know. And I knew
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: the place was going to have like seven hundred.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: Kids in there.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: I forget what her name was. Caitlin would remember, but
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: so I call up and I get in touch with Hollis.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: I think because it was her name is her name,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: and she would book the band.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: So I said, listen, got this girl who's like same
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: age as this girls who's coming in to perform.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: Do you have an opening and act we'd love to
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: open up for.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: So there's actually video of us and we went in
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: and we played rush for these teenage kids.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: So what we did is Chris Barbera.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: And I we put Caitlin front and center on the stage,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: like literally on the edge of the front of the stage,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: and the two of us sat back and stood behind
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: her and let her be the feature of There's video
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: on YouTube if you look up cod hocus Pocus. You
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: remember the song the yodling and Chris Barbera would sing that,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: and there's video of us.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: It's perfect. Chris barber Yeah, you man, he used to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: yo say he was on based on my guitar.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: And here we are rocking out for these kids.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: And the kids loved it. They love seeing Katelyn.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: But here's this pop star.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: It probably came out with a few dancers and and
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: here we were play in Toad's Place.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: That's a big stage in front of seven hundred eight hundred.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: It was so great, man.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: So what's your final topic? Got So, I haven't really
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: had a show. So I was on a show last week,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: so I kind of do like a douche of the
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: week segment. So it's been a couple of weeks.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: From the spot. No no, no, no, no, no, because
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: I got a few choices.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: So so first of all, I want to congratulate all
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: the men and women of the United States that got gold, silver,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: bronze and the Olympics, right.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: I unfortunately was away for the first week. I was
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: on a cruise.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't see any of the shit because you're on
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: a cruise ship, I don't you know, don't you know
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: what time it is? You just drinking all day and
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: you don't really have TV access or phone access. So
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: when I got home was kind of when the hockey
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: tournament started. The women won the gold on a Friday,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: I believe, and amazing, and they dominate that sport. They
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: really do, like they like they dominate soccer mostly, and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: then the men played Sunday.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: What a game, What a game?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: I watched it. It was eight Actually.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I went out Friday for the semifinal, went to Archie Moor's,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: went to Camp's house when I kind of bounced around
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: and it was kind of a.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: Blowout, you know, not much drama there.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: And then Sunday, you know, I got to work Monday mornings,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, I'll just you know, it was eight
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: am game, but all the bars were opening and as
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, all across the East coast bars were opening.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: It was crazy, right, And I actually kind of woke
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: up a little lake because we went out Saturday night
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: and I caught that first goal, and then I watched the.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Whole game basically in bed's not gonna lie. And then
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: the girl got up. Braden had a friend sleeping over.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: They could care less about you, I say, hockey and
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: they're sixteen years even in that moment, I mean, it
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: was such a no but I'm just like, screw this.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: This is my moment.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: I was six years old in nineteen eighty. I don't
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: remember a fucking thing you remember. I don't remember it.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: So this is like all right, and we made it.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: You know, we were down five, you know, we're on
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: the two man power play they were on. We survived
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: that crazy saves. What a game we and and I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: said this, I was texting back and forth with Campy.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, we should be down for to one, but
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: if we get to overtime, it's on because it's three
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: on three. And that's that's the way Canada beat us
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: in the in the World Cup thing last year. And
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: sure enough, like you know, two three minutes in, we score.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: I'm fucking slamming my mom. So Nicole's downstairs.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: Like they win.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you fucking they won? You know,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: can't dressed? Come downstairs. The two kids are on the
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: couch on their fucking phones. I'm like, do you guys
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: have any America pride?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Like so whatever.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm watching the whole post game and and you know,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: all the guys loving America, and it just dawned on me.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: This is gonna suck because the way the world is
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: right now and the way the media is. I know
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Trump's gonna say something stupid. And you know, I'm a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Trump guy. You know, I'm a Republican.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: But he's already I know him. He's gonna say something stupid.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: It's gonna set the left off and and whatever, and
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: sure it's gonna taint the express.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: So he has the State of the Union on Tuesday
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: night and he calls out the USA men's hockey team,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: and it's probably for me, one of the coolest moments,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: for I'm a big hockey guy, first of all, and
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: it's one of the coolest moments because I didn't witness
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty and this is no disrespect to the women,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: but they dominate this sport.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: There's not much history to it.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: And alls you hear as a young male growing up
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: in your teens, twenties, thirties, and now forties from me,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I'm fifty one. As alls we hear about every Olympus
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: is nineteen fucking eighty.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all we hear about the miracle.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: And we fucking win this against a team I'm sorry,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: that was way much better on paper than we were.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: That Canadian team. Their top three.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Guys are Connor McDavid mccarr and fucking McKinnon are.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable, way better than not way better, but better than
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: our top three.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: And I see these guys walk down the stairs and
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: now it's that was Tuesday night, so they won it
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: well week before whatever, and they walk down and they
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: look awkward and they look like shame, like there's like
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: shame on their face that they're there, and I'm like,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: this is fucked up.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: To me, I'm like this, this should be celebrated.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the people in the fucking
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the left and the right, the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: ones that stand and the ones that don't.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: I don't care about that shit show. They haven't the
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: stupid the state of the units are stupid.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't be a crowd there. Just go on TV,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: say your shit and get the fuck out. Now that
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: it goes for everybody, not just Trump and Obama whatever.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: So these guys come down.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: I saw it in their faces like oh, like like
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know, right, but this comes from the media
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: and it's both sides. And it's still going on now,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: like oh now they're now they now they're attacking these
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: guys and there's interviewing them, like if you can't.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Even say I love playing for America without it being
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: like politicized.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: And it just sucks for these guys.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: And I know they're professionals, they're not amateurs. They make
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. But now they all got a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: backpedal and they need publicists and and and and agents
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: to tell them what to say because you don't want
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: to be betrayed as you know, being misogynistic or because
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: of the because the women weren't.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: Oh it drives me insane. Just let the moment happen.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Understand what Trump is, He's a fucking buffoon. Leaves my president,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: but he's a bug get it.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: But like the left to jump all over it and
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: attack the fucking hockey players, and then the right's gonna
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: like just trying to oh and they're gonna go over
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: the top defending them when it just should be a
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: natural moment. It should be a moment for of the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: of America coming together and beating one of the best teams.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Granted wasn't the Russians, which is you know, there was
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: the whole US Russian thing back in nineteen eighty, which
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: I get, you know, or this is different, but like
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: here we are in this day and age, and we
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: there's so much division, you know, And then Huffing the
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Post puts out an article.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, if you felt, you know, like if
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: you didn't feel like patriotic, like you're not alone watching
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: that US men's hockey team.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Feel patriotic, like like I don't then leave now I'm
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: gonna say something.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna jump in here.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: You didn't feel patriotic? Have you seen the videos of
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: the bars in the in the people. My daughter was
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: in New York, she's in Manhattan. She woke up seven
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: thirty in the morning to get to a bar.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: She went. He went to a bar.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: And even a half hour later after the game, first
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: she posts when they when they won, she had video
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: of the whole bar gone crazy crazy. Now we're talking Manhattan,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: pretty liberal, pretty liberal, or it's New York.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: And and everybody was chanting USA. There was pride. There
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: was that moment of unity where it.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Didn't matter you know what side you were on your head.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: That could be a liberal if you're you, it's a
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: fucking ass. It doesn't matter.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: You were proud of these young men that did what
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: they did.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: So then even what half hour, forty five minutes, an
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: hour later, they do the national anthem.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: The entire bar was singing, singing at the top of
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: their lungs. It was beautiful. It brought me to tears.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was like, Oh, this is what America
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: should be about. It's not about all that other everything. Well,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: we want you to be fearful of that, or hate
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: this or hate that.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: You know you think you know, you say you like.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: I don't like any of them. Don't give me any
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: of them. I don't like them. Over there.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: My thing is and you know the other night, Oh
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: we're gonna put an end to the trading, you know,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: to to uh no, The.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: Insider trading, you know where they can become there. I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: will bet you everything I have, all my guitars.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: All my house and everything that that will never become
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: a low now from either side.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: And what does that tell you?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: They're just there, yeah, to be their game.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I get all that. They don't care and
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: it's it's set.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: But but my thing is now they're see, this is
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: what's crazy about And you have three daughters and I
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: know you support them, and you have an l LGBTQ daughter,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: right and yeah, and that's awesome when it comes to
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: this hockey stuff. This is what really bothered me too,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: was they pitted the sexes against each other and they
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: made the men respond to Trump's stupid joke and made
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: a huge deal out of it. And now they're like again,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: they're feeling like shame, like they were at the White House,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: like blah blah blah. I'm like, this is where, this
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: is where I love hockey, because hockey is a sport
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: that isn't mainstream.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: It's just not.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: And I said it to somebody else when this happened.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: It's like me liking that band that rolled through Daniel
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: Street and I don't really want anyone to know about them,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: because you know what, if they become too big, then
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna like them anymore, you know.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: And so hockey is the same way to me. I'm like,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: I'm fine with it being in this sport.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with it being on TNT or nessing and
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: watching my bruins and no one really cares.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: No one could tell me.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: People that bitched about the women not getting their due
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: from Trump that the men did don't even want. No
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: hockey couldn't tell me. He couldn't explain rules. They just
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: made it political.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: And like I said, the.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Girls deserve everything they get, and maybe they didn't get
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: it up, but Stanley Tucci took him out to dinner
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: at a fancy restaurant in Italy, and the men got
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: McDonald's at the White House, so maybe the women went
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: out in the long end anyway, But I feel the
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: women blew a big opportunity not going because that's just
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There's a million eyes on that State of
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: the Union and you could really have promoted your sport.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: I feel this is where the WNBA goes wrong by
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: having everyone try to kill Katelyn Clark on the court,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: like this is your this is your golden goose, this
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: is your Tiger Woods. Golf wasn't making any money till
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: he came along, and now they all make three million
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: dollars if they win a tournament. Guys, please, where where
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: is your pr team? Here?
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: Well in inspiring young ladies also, yeahs, you know, because
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: like you said, there are hockey I have some students
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: in middle school that are big hockey players, girls, right,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: and it's and it's amazing to hear them talk about it,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: and you know how how into it they are. But
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: you know, here was an opportunity for these women to inspire.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: I think one of the the what was the kid's
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: name with the with the missing teeth, the one Jack Hugh, Yeah, Hughes.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: You know, I think he said that.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: That I wish they came along to to Maybe maybe
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: I heard it wrong, but I thought he said I
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: wish they came along to inspire another generation, because we
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: feel obligated to inspire.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: The young kids to follow. I mean, you know, like
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: you said, nineteen eighty, how old are you again? Was
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: six six? But you heard about it.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: And that, Yeah, I mean it's heard from my whole life.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: It's ch It's a great story.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: More lightly, it could be the greatest sports moment.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Of all No, it hands down, yeah, hands down, because
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: I mean people didn't understand the Cold War at the time.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: It was they had all the professionals, we had amateurs. Yeah,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: college kids, yeah, college kids yeah yeah.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: And again like there's so many similarities yet there's so
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: many differences to nineteen eighty too now, but the fact
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: that we haven't.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: Once in that long, and you know, I feel like
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: almost sports.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Fans like like like me, I'm your typical you know,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: I'm fifty one years old and watching male sports my
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: whole life.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: But I follow women's basketball. I fall Yukon, I watch
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: them anytime they're on TV. I watch them.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I just never could get into WNBA or women's hockey.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: I just I just I'm sorry, it's just you call
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: me whatever you want. I just can't get into it. Yeah,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I like the speed and just finesse and
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: the way the men play these sports. But I actually
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: like women's college basketball over men college basketball, which is
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, because I just think they play more
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: of a team game than the men do, you know.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: But the hockey side of it's just speed to me.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: I like this. I like the speed.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: But if you put uh, if I'm flipping the channels
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: and I see Indiana Fever and I there, you'll stop.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Point why they try to kill this girl, why they
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: try to take her out, and why they're so jealous of.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: Her and the other one from Louisiana. What was there?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm blaking on me downs. Yeah, you know,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: if they're playing against each other, the game's gonna break down.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: Everybody loves a little rivalry and everybody loves you know,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: so it's you know there, Like you said, it was
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: an opportunity for for the women, and I wish they
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: took it, but.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: I think they I think politics, you know, Trump took
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: it away from them because he's Trump, and left took
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: it away from them, and the right.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: It's just it's just one of those things.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate because you know, you can say the
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: Olympics aren't political, because they are, because they were political
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty Yeah, I mean politics were huge.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: You know, it was Russia US and that was huge.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: They were political in the sixth race and guys with
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: the fist stuff yeah black yeah, yeah.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: And uh, you know we're protesting and I mean that.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: You know, if I if I walk the street in
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: New York City right now and went up to any
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: I don't any anybody really didn't matter whether you're a
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: sports fan whatever, And I asked you, did the United
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: States win the goal against Russia in nineteen eighty And
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: they'll all say yes, but they didn't. That was the
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: that was the semi final game. Oh, they had to
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: go and beat Finland in the final. Okay, right, So
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: that's one of those things that over the years people
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: forget about.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: They just see that. That's yeah, you know what now
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: I remember?
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: And and that's also did Mookie Wilson win the World Series?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: But the ball through Buck Douger's legs, that was game
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: That was Game six.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: They had to go back and win the Red Sox.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Being a Red Sox fan, we had a three nothing
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: leader in Game seven and then we got right that one.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: So stop. Yeah, I'm sorry, Oh god, I remember that too.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so anyway, well we'll wrap this up. We
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: had a nice long conversation. Let's let's do some plugs.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: Besides the book Raising a Musical Child, Chris Caliphus, you
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: get that on Amazon. Just type in basically raising the music.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: Child that pops right up. You'll see the ode to
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: the Beatles.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, road.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Yep, you're going to be playing. What are you some
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: of your dates you got coming up? You personally, I
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: know you're gonna be a stonebridge in March twenty eighth.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: I think you said dome Bridge March twenty eighth. I
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: also play. By the way, my birtha is March nineteenth,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna play somewhere in March nineteenth. March nineteenth.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: I play every week or every other week.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: Sterry Ramana in Monroe, great Italian restaurant, just guitar being
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: a guitar, background music. You know, it's not loud, it's
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: not Some people come in chill, have conversation tuned into
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: the music. Last night I had these this older couple
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: and they were so beautiful and wonderful. They're like, we
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: recognize every song you played. We're just sitting here playing
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: name that tune. Every time you would start.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: Playing a song because it's all instrumental.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: Every time you started playing a song, we would see
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: if we can gave it before the other.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: And they're like, the.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: Food was amazing, the drink was amazing, so yeah, so
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: I played there a lot. I've been there for nine years.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: I started my tenth year last night.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Beginning to my tenth year.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: For you, I'm sorry. You still doing the VIP at
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: the Yeah, yeah, we're in the VIP room.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: Hopefully we're going to be back there again this year
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: at the Hertford Healthcare A Theater, and we also do
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: the VIP up at the Meadows sometimes.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: Are you about to say the sea?
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: Riley's by the Seawall, they're opening up again on March eleventh.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: They closed down for the winter. Yeah, yep, open up
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: March eleventh, and on March thirteenth.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: We'll be playing. My singer and I ro acoustic. We'll
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: be playing at Riley's.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: That night, the opening night.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: So it's a big night down in Stratford.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: My girlfriend loves that place.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: So maybe we'll come down on thirteen Friday, Friday the thirteenth,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: Right Friday thirteen.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out something.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: I always say ever since you you and Herb got together. Uh,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: you can ask Campy this too. Whenever we like, we
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: come in and we realize you're playing. Because I love
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: Phil to death, but he never like this is a
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: communication lack on who's playing that night, and he's like, Rock,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Who's thick.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, we always say this dinner in the show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because it is because.
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  Speaker 1: You're great, because you like interact, you tell jokes like
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  Speaker 1: like like you really know, I've ever.
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  Speaker 3: Camp said to me once I didn't know we were
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  Speaker 3: getting a comedy.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I was like, okay, you know, you get
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  Speaker 9: a few Tanga rays or a few Tito's and if
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  Speaker 9: you if you want Leonard Skinnard, Uh, what what's the song?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Free bird, free bird, hundred bucks super yeah, always say
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  Speaker 4: because he's always that.
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  Speaker 2: One person I got any requests anybody, and you always do.
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  Speaker 4: We gotta tell you though, you want freebird one hundred
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  Speaker 4: bucks on tip jar, it's sweet sweet Caroline. Yeah, two
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  Speaker 4: hundred bucks in the tip jar. And if you want
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  Speaker 4: stairway to having three hundred bucks in.
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  Speaker 2: The tip jar.
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  Speaker 3: This is what we joke about, and we were gotten
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  Speaker 3: it before.
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  Speaker 4: We have gotten it numerous times. We've gotten free bird
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  Speaker 4: with one hundred dollars bill. We were playing down in
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  Speaker 4: Norwalk at Sunset Girl on the water down there and
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  Speaker 4: this guy walks up and he drops one hundred dollars
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: bill after hearing us do our stick our comedy routine, and.
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  Speaker 2: And he drops one hundred dollars bill and tip jar
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  Speaker 2: and he.
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  Speaker 3: Goes, play free bird. Yeah so we played free bird.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we played Freebird.
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  Speaker 4: And then later on he comes up. He drops another
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  Speaker 4: one hundred dollars bill and he goes, do you know friends.
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  Speaker 2: In low places? Yeah? And and uh, I go, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can learn it.
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  Speaker 3: And I got on my phone.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the cords real quick. And then the singer,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: you know, Herbson's high Yeah.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: And you know that's oh friends, what's up?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: So he went up to the guy with the microphone.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: He goes, you gotta help me sing this, and the
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: guy was like okay, and he handled him the microphone.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: The guy sang the whole song. He gave us a
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: hundred dound and then he came up another time and he.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: Just was like, yeah, I love you guys. He gave
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: us another hundred bucks. Turned out, I don't I don't
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: want to say who he was, but he kind of
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: runs a big wrestling organization.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: Now that Vince McMahon has stepped down.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: He played brother Love.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: He was the what was that guy's name, I wasn't Bruce,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Bruce Bruce.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: He he runs.
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  Speaker 4: He I'm pretty sure he is like the now the
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: like the top guy. He was brother love back in
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: the day the Bible thumping. He would wear a white
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: and Bruce somebody because when they did speaking of did
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: you see.
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  Speaker 3: My gosh this cars, Yeah, I didn't see it. I
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: was going to my daughter's birthday party. Oh man, whoever
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: he's like eighty now yeah, and whoever he hit? Oh yeah,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: So the talk about.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: A lawsuit if you're getting hit by anybody, to make
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: it busy, man, you know, that's it.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: I always said, if I got to hit the didn't
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: know you can't.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: This is where like you get to a certain age,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: you can't be driving cars like that. Because he hit,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: he hit the cap and he couldn't even fucking get
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: out of the way. Yeah, like he couldn't get around
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: him quick enough because the car was so fast yep
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: from behind.
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  Speaker 3: So you know they're both abun to be alive at
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: that speed. And he wait, yeah, yeah, you know absolutely
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: absolutely all right, all right, let's wrap this up. Chris
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Kliphus raising a musical child. What a great conversation. As usual,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: I will I will definitely.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: If not Riley's stone Bridge for sure, but uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll come check you out my birthday.
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  Speaker 4: Smarts thirteen, Stonebridge on the h on the twenty eighth,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: Hysteria Ramona.
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  Speaker 3: Which is my birthday, March nineteenth.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: Nineteenth, and I'm also there on March twelfth also nice yeah, busy,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: busy weekend twelfth and thirteenth.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. Sometimes you get three four nice weekend,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, keep busy. Sounds good, brother, Thanks you
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  Speaker 3: appreciated of course