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- 0:00I'm fine. I have not been body snatched. And I will do
- 0:03whatever I can to take control of this situation. Is it
- 0:07possible? And hear me out here. So, all right, here we go.
- 0:11I'm gonna pretend I'm pushing record. Cause that feels right. Okay, I'm pressing record.
- 0:16Boop. Hi, everybody. I'm Lauren Howard.
- 0:19Welcome to Different Not Broken, which is our
- 0:23podcast on exactly that. That there are a lot of people in this world walking
- 0:26around feeling broken. And the reality is you're just different. And that's.
- 0:31Lately, I have done something that I swore I wouldn't do. Okay, not that
- 0:35I swore I wouldn't do. I knew I would do it, but that I frequently
- 0:38try not to do, which is fly on an airplane.
- 0:42Because I don't know if anybody has caught on to this. This is probably
- 0:45new information. I have a few control
- 0:49issues. I know,
- 0:53I know it's shocking. Please
- 0:56catch your breath. Just bear with me.
- 1:01I know the science behind it. I theoretically understand
- 1:05the physics behind it. But still, there is no reason that that metal tube should
- 1:08be hurtling through the air. It just does not make sense. And then, like, these
- 1:12planes do these things that everybody acts like is normal
- 1:16and it cannot possibly be normal. Like, you hit
- 1:19turbulence and the whole damn plane shakes. And you can hear,
- 1:23like, all of the luggage above your head trying to burst
- 1:27out of the compartments because the turbulence so bad. And everybody
- 1:31around you is like, this is fine. There's nothing
- 1:34happening. That's weird on this thing. That
- 1:38is definitely not on the ground and is, in fact, many, many,
- 1:42many thousands of feet in the air. This is fine. It doesn't
- 1:46make any sense to me. I've flown multiple times in the last couple weeks. Guys.
- 1:49I know, I know. I'm fine. I have not been
- 1:53body snatched. I don't know how to prove that to you
- 1:57because everything I say is weird. So I don't know how to prove it to
- 2:01you, but just know that I have not been body snatched. I still don't like
- 2:04wearing shoes. The fact that I had to wear shoes on the airplane
- 2:07was rude, but I'm not going to put my dirty bare feet on other
- 2:11people. So I wore shoes, but that's the way you can tell
- 2:15because I was angry that I had to wear shoes anyway. If I fly
- 2:18regularly, I'm usually okay. It's when you get the big gap between
- 2:23flights that the next time I have to fly, I'm like, oh, my God, this
- 2:26is so awful. So, like, when I have to get on a plane again in
- 2:29two days to Go back home. I'll probably be okay,
- 2:32ish and appropriately medicated, to be clear. But if I have
- 2:36to then not fly for several months, which is
- 2:40usually my typical, I will be a basket case before
- 2:44the next flight. I don't know whose life this is, but it certainly cannot be
- 2:47mine. Anyway, the first two times recently that I flew, I took our
- 2:51chief clinical officer with me. One, because I didn't want to fly alone, and two,
- 2:55because I just like having her with me. It was the most affirming experience
- 2:58I've ever had in my life. And I say this as a person who has
- 3:02been very fortunate to be affirmed in many capacities throughout my life, including
- 3:06in the home that I grew up in, which was, in
- 3:10hindsight, very, very affirming because my dad didn't realize that's what he was,
- 3:14but that's what he was. But I cannot
- 3:18oversell how good a choice it is that if you are going to
- 3:22get an emotional support human, have it be the therapist
- 3:26who runs your clinical team, because she's going to be really, really
- 3:29solid at the emotional support beforehand. She
- 3:33called me just to see what I needed to be
- 3:36comfortable on the airplane, which is adorable. Cause, like, I'm a grown
- 3:40human and like, I can figure it out. But she's kind and compassionate
- 3:44and for whatever reason with her terrible taste, likes me a lot.
- 3:48And so she decided that she wanted to call and make sure that I had
- 3:51everything I needed. And I said, to be honest, all I need is the
- 3:55Klonopin that is in my bag. She was like, okay, that is fine.
- 3:59And I said, and I will need you to probably hold my hand. To which
- 4:02she said, I can do that, too. She did such an
- 4:05epic fucking job of holding my hand. She really
- 4:09did. Like, I was thinking about it afterward, and I was like,
- 4:13what an incredible fucking human. So we're on this
- 4:17airplane and I am, as I said before, appropriately medicated. And I
- 4:21very rarely take medication. But my anxiety about airplanes
- 4:25borders on irrational. Like, most of the things I do, but
- 4:29that one in particular, like, you don't want to have a meltdown
- 4:32on an airplane in the middle of the air when
- 4:36there's probably an air marshal a couple rows away from you. You just don't want
- 4:40that to happen. So that is one of the situations where I feel like I
- 4:43probably should. It's not like the type of
- 4:46anxiety where I just, like, feel like I'm worried about something. It's like
- 4:50walls closing in. I'm trapped.
- 4:53Everything is awful. The space cannot
- 4:57be big enough. I Need to grab something and square squeeze. Hard type
- 5:01anxiety. It is like, fully irrational. I am not in
- 5:04control of this situation and I will do whatever I can to take control of
- 5:08this situation. And do you know what legal things that you can do to take
- 5:11control of an airplane? Not many. So it's not a good
- 5:15idea. Anyway, she sat in the middle seat for me
- 5:19because I like to be pressed up against the wall because it makes me
- 5:23feel safe in the tube that is hurtling through the air. I recognize that
- 5:26makes no sense. Just go with it. So she sat on the middle seat for
- 5:30me, which is so nice. And, like, I wouldn't have done that for someone else.
- 5:33That is not a comfortable place to sit. And
- 5:37she just, like, let me do what I was going to do. And I kind
- 5:40of like placed my, like, I like, laid against the side with my little. I
- 5:43was using my sweatshirt as a pillow and I needed to grab
- 5:47something from a bag. And she helped with that. And that was so nice of
- 5:49her. And then we were just kind of chatting about
- 5:53plans for the day. We had a couple of events we had to go to
- 5:56that night, what time we were going to check into the hotel, et cetera, et
- 5:59cetera. And every now and then we would like, hit an air
- 6:02pocket or something would change that would freak me out. And I would
- 6:06reach out and grab her and she would just let me grab her
- 6:09and then not miss a beat in the
- 6:13conversation we were having. So it was just completely normalized. She didn't
- 6:17draw attention to it. She didn't make it a thing. She didn't ask me
- 6:20if I was okay. Don't ask people that when they're clearly not
- 6:24okay. It doesn't help nothing. She didn't draw attention to
- 6:28it. Whatever appendage I grabbed onto, she let me
- 6:32have. It was usually like a wrist or a hand.
- 6:36It didn't happen that often because I had done a pretty good job of calming
- 6:39myself beforehand. Actually, both the flight there and back for that trip were really
- 6:43smooth, and there was very little to write home about. The most recent flight we
- 6:46took, literally, we landed and the flight attendant got on the
- 6:50PA system and said, well, that was fun. So that tells you
- 6:54a little bit about that experience. I didn't realize how
- 6:59validated and whole and affirmed it made me feel.
- 7:03She didn't make a thing out of it. She didn't draw attention to it.
- 7:07She just made her
- 7:11physical body parts available to me for my
- 7:15personal use, for my sensory regulation. I also
- 7:18told her beforehand, like, if nobody around me is freaking Out. I'm not going to
- 7:22freak out because I use everybody around me as a cue for
- 7:26what's happening. And if I see somebody else respond to the fact that the plane
- 7:29did something weird, I'm going to respond. But for the most part, like,
- 7:33nobody, like, I've never been on a plane where anybody
- 7:37really like made any movement that would tell me
- 7:40that the things that I was responding to, anybody else had noticed
- 7:44or had noticed enough for it to be concerning. I
- 7:48will say that I have very weird ears and that's kind of a funny
- 7:52thing to say, but my eardrums are all messed up because I don't feel when
- 7:55I get ear infections until my eardrum perforates. And so I
- 7:59feel pressure in airplanes different than everybody else. And pressure changes in
- 8:02airplanes feel different to me. And so I know that there is a good
- 8:06chance that I'm feeling something that nobody else does. And
- 8:10so if I look around me and like nobody else is responding to it, I'm
- 8:13like, okay, that's just my weird ears. And so she knew that going in. And
- 8:16so I think she was like extra calm so that I would take the cue
- 8:20and chill the fuck out, which I sort of did.
- 8:23But the point being, the comfort and
- 8:27the support that I received had nothing to do with what she did and almost
- 8:31everything to do with what she didn't do. She didn't make a thing out of
- 8:35it. She didn't draw attention to it. She didn't ask me if
- 8:38I needed anything. She didn't make a
- 8:42production out of anything. If I grabbed her arm, she just
- 8:46gave me her arm, continued talking, didn't miss a beat. We
- 8:49continued having our conversation. When I let go, she just took her arm back.
- 8:53It was no big deal. And I got through the whole experience
- 8:57not feeling like a fucking alien. There
- 9:01is so much to be said for quiet support.
- 9:05It's not to say that people don't need loud support. And I am
- 9:09always here to provide loud support. But I don't think I had ever
- 9:12felt the full impact, especially as a
- 9:16very anxious person, especially as a very anxious person who tends to be surrounded by
- 9:20people who really, really want to help and who
- 9:23are well meaning in their desire to help, but
- 9:27who sometimes, I won't say make it worse, but
- 9:31create additional stimuli in their attempt to help, which does not help me calm
- 9:35my anxiety whatsoever. It was the least stimulating environment
- 9:39that you could possibly be in while in a metal tube hurling through the air.
- 9:43And so to Natasha, who I love dearly and who
- 9:47says she listens to my Podcast, so we'll see if that's true.
- 9:51Thank you for being the most affirming human on the planet and for making me
- 9:55feel so safe in an environment where I will never feel safe. And you
- 9:59will forever be my emotional support friend who has to travel with me everywhere I
- 10:02go. Sorry, but not sorry.
- 10:06She does say she listens to this podcast, so we'll see. Because I'm not gonna
- 10:09tell her beforehand. She quotes it back to me fairly regularly. I
- 10:13know she does actually listen, but.
- 10:20So before we ask you
- 10:24to brag on yourself, because I don't think we do
- 10:28that enough, and I think a lot of the really shockingly impressive people
- 10:31who I know are so busy trying to be modest that
- 10:35they have no idea how impressive they are. And so I encouraged you to
- 10:39brag about yourself. And this week, we have our first brag.
- 10:43We have our first brag. So let's
- 10:46hear from Deborah, who did something tough
- 10:50that I'm very jealous of and that my husband won't let me do. Okay,
- 10:54not won't let me. He will let me. He's not in control, but
- 10:58he thinks I'm bonkers for waking up one day and deciding I want to do
- 11:01this. It's been like a regular back and forth in our house for, like, six
- 11:04months. But anyway, Deborah did the damn thing. Hey,
- 11:07I'm Deborah M. And I just got my first tattoo.
- 11:12It's a phoenix. Because of course it is.
- 11:16I booked the appointment, didn't cancel it ten
- 11:19times, and sat through three hours without
- 11:22crying or throwing up, which for me
- 11:26is Olympic level success. Bragging.
- 11:30Absolutely. I earned this ink.
- 11:36I wanted to talk about toilet paper. There's this very
- 11:40stereotypical stereotype, for
- 11:44lack of I don't know what else to call it. Stereotypical. Something
- 11:47in a heteronormative appearing household that
- 11:52the woman or the person who fills that role,
- 11:56that traditional gender role, is the one who yells at
- 12:00people to put the toilet paper on the roll. And that
- 12:04if we have traditional gender roles, the more masculine
- 12:07individual fails to all the
- 12:10time. I am here to say that that is not the case in my
- 12:14house. I am actually the jackass who refuses
- 12:18to put the toilet paper on the roll. And my husband
- 12:22is the one who asks me and reminds me all the time to do it
- 12:26and truly does not understand why there is such a
- 12:29deficit in my brain to complete this. And I've
- 12:33actually spent a fair amount of time thinking about it, because this is definitely the
- 12:37brain power that I need to be applying in any place
- 12:40whatsoever. 100% absolutely so part of
- 12:44it is that I hate the spring loaded toilet
- 12:47papery thingies. I hate them. They require
- 12:51so many hands and I'm not coordinated enough
- 12:55to keep them together while putting them in the middle of the
- 12:58roll while also putting them back in the thing that creates the
- 13:02tension so that it stays on the roll. I find that whole process
- 13:05annoying and I do not want to participate in it. And most of our
- 13:09toilet paper rolls are that. And so I just choose not to participate in it.
- 13:13And that's not good because when I look at myself and say, hey,
- 13:17stop being a jackass and just put it on the roll, I
- 13:21just do it and nothing dies and no one gets hurt. And
- 13:24in fact, my marriage is probably improved for it.
- 13:28And it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. But if I
- 13:32look at it and I'm like, that toilet paper needs to go on that roll.
- 13:36Mm, mm. I don't wanna. And I just don't.
- 13:40It can sit on it, it can sit near it, it can sit next to
- 13:42it. I don't care. I don't want to deal
- 13:46with the tensiony spring loady thingamajig that
- 13:50makes this whole thing. I don't wanna deal with it. And that is a
- 13:53bizarre hill to die on. That is a really bizarre hill to die
- 13:57on.
- 14:04And now we'll go to Allison, who has this week's small
- 14:08talk. I shut down socially way faster than I used to, and I'm not
- 14:12sure if that's burnout age or just me finally noticing it.
- 14:16How do you tell the difference between needing rest and avoiding life?
- 14:20Because right now everything feels exhausting. I can
- 14:24totally relate to that. Is it possible, and hear me out
- 14:28here, is it possible that everything feels exhausting?
- 14:32Because everything is exhausting. Is it possible
- 14:36that you are not giving yourself credit
- 14:40for the reality of the current toxic hellscape that we are
- 14:44existing in and you are somehow making it that
- 14:47you are having an unreasonable reaction when in reality
- 14:52you are not given the space to have the very reasonable reaction that you are
- 14:55having. I'm sure there's a good reason to know where it's
- 14:59coming from. But in the moment when you need it, I don't
- 15:03know that that matters. If you need rest. Rest. If
- 15:07your body is telling you to retreat from whatever.
- 15:10Retreat from whatever. First off, we are in the
- 15:14post Halloween pre January
- 15:1815th vortex. That doesn't exist. Time
- 15:22and space is not a thing. There is nothing
- 15:26that happens now short of emergency
- 15:29medical care. That is not a January problem. And
- 15:34we don't Give ourselves enough credit for how
- 15:38freaking exhausting just existing
- 15:42during this time of year is. And it is freaking exhausting.
- 15:46So freaking exhausting. So there's that. There is a
- 15:50world where I think there are people who are the opposite of this,
- 15:53too. Like, I think there are people who get older and want to be more
- 15:57social and go seek out other people. But it's also very common to get a
- 16:01little bit older and be like, I don't need that. I don't want that.
- 16:05There is. As you learn more about people, I think you decide how
- 16:08much you actually want of people, or you start to decide how much you actually
- 16:12want of people. The kind of natural optimism that you're going to stumble across a
- 16:16new best friend starts to deplete as you get older. And you
- 16:19have what I call the emotional graveyard of best friends.
- 16:23Hopefully not a real graveyard. That would be weird. But, like, you look
- 16:27back and you're like, well, we were so close for a while, and then, oh,
- 16:30yeah, I talked to that person a lot, but it phased out. And sometimes it
- 16:34just is like the natural progression of a relationship. And some things, something bad
- 16:37happens, and sometimes you guys just move in different directions. But the more
- 16:41experiences that you have, like that where somebody disappoints you,
- 16:45and I don't mean that in like they did something to fail you, even though
- 16:48that does happen. I just more mean like, it didn't work out
- 16:52again, or it wasn't what I thought it was going to be, or they
- 16:55weren't who I thought they were, or I, you know, thought this was going to
- 16:59work out differently than it would or than it did. You get to the other
- 17:02side of that and you're like, I don't know how much more I want to
- 17:05go back for. For more of that. Sometimes it happens with family. The older I
- 17:08get, the general less tolerance I have for BS from my family,
- 17:12which manifests in a number of ways. One, in places I would have kept my
- 17:16mouth shut before, I do not believe it or not, there were times in my
- 17:19life where I kept my mouth shut. I know that's shocking. Pick yourself up off
- 17:22the floor. It has happened. And then in other times, it's
- 17:26like, I just am not going to engage. It is too. I know
- 17:30that engaging in this relationship in any way is going to take
- 17:33so much from me that it's not worth it. And so that's kind of. Those
- 17:37are kind of like two sides of the same coin. When you are the only
- 17:41person who identifies as female, as a woman in a family of A bunch of
- 17:44people who identify as male who you know are all my brothers,
- 17:48there is a whole lot of just
- 17:51emotional management they expect you to do. Not that
- 17:55long ago, two of my brothers were like, they were arguing about something
- 17:59shocking. One had pissed the other one off. The first one
- 18:03actually almost immediately came back with an apology because he realized that he had been
- 18:07an asshole. The second one basically was on a
- 18:11page where he was like, you were an asshole and I don't have to accept
- 18:13your apology. And like, he's right, he doesn't have to. But also like, why are
- 18:17you being a dick? He apologized and so I texted my sister in law
- 18:21on the side and was like, this is like being an intimacy coordinator for
- 18:25monkeys. Why are they so bad at this part? Like,
- 18:29why do I have to prompt them on how they're supposed to? Somebody
- 18:32apologize to you, what do you say? I wasn't involved
- 18:36with it whatsoever, but it started by both of them contacting me
- 18:40separately to tell me that the other had been an asshole. And
- 18:44I knew exactly what happened. One of my brothers was going through something really hard.
- 18:46The other brother was just having a bad day. The first brother asked the
- 18:50second one about his hard situation because it's something that's
- 18:54in my oldest brother's area of expertise. My oldest brother was
- 18:58distracted having a bad day and was an asshole in response. Instead of
- 19:01being like, can we talk in two days? When I'm not buried under these
- 19:05things, normally I just would have been like, can you guys stop being
- 19:09idiots? Instead, when my oldest brother reached out to me
- 19:13to talk about it, I think my response was, I
- 19:17know you are too autistic to understand the
- 19:20necessity of responding in this situation, but I'm going to need you to get
- 19:24your head out of your ass and respond appropriately
- 19:28because you having a blow up to somebody who is going through a really
- 19:32tough time was not appropriate, even if he's
- 19:36your brother. To which he was like, you're right,
- 19:40totally right. And he apologized. But in the past, I would
- 19:43not have said that to him. In the past. I would not have just gone
- 19:46toe to toe with him and been like, get your head out of your ass.
- 19:49Some of that's a function of age, Some of it's a function of experience. Some
- 19:53of it's a function of just what the fuck dudes like, get out of your
- 19:57own way. Stop making problems for me because you two can't
- 20:00communicate. That's a lot of getting older and
- 20:04figuring out how to navigate situations you
- 20:07do and don't want to be in and you only have to be in them
- 20:10a couple of times before you're like, nope, don't want to do that again. Oh,
- 20:13there's a chance that's going to happen. I'll pass. Is that not
- 20:16participating in life? I don't know. Is it protecting your
- 20:20peace? Probably. Like, probably a lot. And
- 20:24so I don't know about you, but I would really, really love
- 20:27to have some precedented times. Since we're not going to get that. I
- 20:31think you need to give yourself some grace for the fact that
- 20:35you are exhausted because the world is exhausting and that getting older
- 20:39tells you what bullshit you're willing to put up with. Thanks for being here, guys.
- 20:43Have a good day. Love you. Mean it.
- 20:50I am an extra foul mouth today. So many fuck words.