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Booing Zohran, Bad Parents, and Botched Liners · Rich Valdés: This is America!

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Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez, powered by politweek dot Com.
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Speaker 2: Rich Valdes is with us former Christian administration officials.
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Speaker 3: You worked for Chris Christie if In followsas on a
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Speaker 3: lot of public service stuff.
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Speaker 4: Rich Valdez calumnist now with the Washington Times.
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Speaker 5: This is America, ritchiev.
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Speaker 2: You're on the air with the Nation of the Nation with.
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Speaker 5: America with your host, Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 4: What's up, America. I am Rich Valdez. Valdez with an
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Speaker 4: valideestz one eight seven seven valadest one and lots to discuss.
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Speaker 4: I left you hanging yesterday with a couple of things
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Speaker 4: that were on the table that I didn't get to.
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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about the court saying no more
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Speaker 4: White House ballroom for you to el Trumpito and a
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Speaker 4: couple other things that are going on. We're going to
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Speaker 4: speak with police chief Capitol Police Chief Stephen Son will
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Speaker 4: be joining us in the next segment to discuss that
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Speaker 4: case out of New York where the mom is a
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Speaker 4: deputy police commissioner Deputy commissioner of public safety in not
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Speaker 4: New Rochelle in Mount Vernon, New York, and she was
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Speaker 4: the alleged getaway driver in the gang shooting involving miners
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Speaker 4: including her son. That's a wild story that we have
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Speaker 4: a clip on. I'm going to get to that, but
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Speaker 4: I want to start with a little bit of the
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Speaker 4: dishonesty that you see in the media because some people
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Speaker 4: in the media will present the story and I touched
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Speaker 4: on this yesterday, if I didn't get to the back
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Speaker 4: and forth on it where they'll say things like United
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Speaker 4: States is out of crucial missile because of war in Iran,
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Speaker 4: when this has, you know, very little impact on the
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Speaker 4: war overall. They make it seem like that's it. We're
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Speaker 4: out of bullets, we've got no ammunition, pack it up
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Speaker 4: and go home. Boys. This couldn't be further from the truth.
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Speaker 4: Number one, because find me a country that makes more
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Speaker 4: bombs in America. Right, it's what we do. We make ammunition,
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Speaker 4: we sell it to everybody else. We make the best planes,
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Speaker 4: I get the best words, we get the best playes,
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Speaker 4: we got the best guns. I mean, that's that's just
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Speaker 4: how it is. I mean, there are other countries that
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Speaker 4: make you good guns.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 4: But my point is we're not running out and Ed Trompito,
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Speaker 4: President Trump was asked this very question in the White House,
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Speaker 4: not yesterday, think it was the night before last and
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Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about it yesterday and I just
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Speaker 4: didn't get to it. But he was asked this question
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Speaker 4: about the ammunition. And this is because of the war
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Speaker 4: in Ukraine. And Zelenski says, you haven't given us enough.
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Speaker 4: And he says, we've given too many. Listen to this,
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Speaker 4: he's a president on Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: President Zelenski says his country desperately needs long range missiles
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Speaker 2: for those patriot misses.
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Speaker 3: Is that's something that you well, I mean, we want
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Speaker 3: missiles to you know, we when Biden gave him so much.
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Speaker 3: Biden gave three hundred billion dollars worth of ammunition. You
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Speaker 3: know when I left this it was full.
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Speaker 4: And it was full. Now we're gonna go to the
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Speaker 4: other comment that he has that wasn't the actual clip
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Speaker 4: I was looking for that. This is the clip I
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Speaker 4: was looking for. Go ahead, play the tape.
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Speaker 7: And you posted overnight that the US has a massive
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Speaker 7: amount to deny that there were any shortages.
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Speaker 3: There is a supplemental request for twenty.
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Speaker 7: One billion dollars to restop.
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Speaker 4: So why is that request still there.
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Speaker 3: If the Well, because we need more all the time.
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Speaker 8: I mean we need more.
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Speaker 3: Look, we gave tremendous amount to Ukraine, the Biden people did,
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Speaker 3: and they were given free of charge, no charge, no charge, billions,
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Speaker 3: hundreds of billions of dollars. And fortunately I built up
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Speaker 3: so much during my term. I rebuilt there and also
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Speaker 3: loaded it up with a lot of stuff. We have
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Speaker 3: certain types of munitions that are very powerful that we
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Speaker 3: have unlimited virtual, unlimited supply. We have others wor it's
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Speaker 3: a little bit tighter, and we're getting them in on.
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Speaker 5: A daily basis.
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Speaker 3: As you know, at defense companies are building more plans
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Speaker 3: right now than at any point in history. They're building
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Speaker 3: plans for the Patriots, for the Tomahawks, for everything. But
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Speaker 3: we have uh, certain types of munitions which are very
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Speaker 3: uh they may not be as accurate. They may not be,
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Speaker 3: you know, they're not as elite. We have elite too,
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Speaker 3: but we're we're watching that very closely. But we have
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Speaker 3: certain types which are very powerful and very good, and
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Speaker 3: we have an unlimited supply and so we're in great check.
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Speaker 3: But with that being said, we always want more.
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Speaker 5: We have to have more.
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Speaker 3: We have other things maybe come up, You maybe come up,
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Speaker 3: and maybe doyn't come up. Hopefully nothing else does come up.
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Speaker 3: But we're in very good shape. We have literally massive
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Speaker 3: amounts of ammunition.
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Speaker 4: And I understand he's laying it on Thick here. I
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Speaker 4: get that totally. But the reason he's laying it on
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Speaker 4: Thick is because the media will have you, me, the
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Speaker 4: American public, and the rest of the world at large,
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Speaker 4: thinking that we're out of bombs, we're out of guns,
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Speaker 4: trying to go home boys, and that's not the case.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: What's in shortage here surface to surface missiles, right, the
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Speaker 4: type that we could shoot right from our bases in
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Speaker 4: Kuwait and Bahrain, and what we're using instead if we
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Speaker 4: run low on those are similar that come off of
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Speaker 4: a ship, because we have an entire fleet down there.
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Speaker 4: So this is not the end of the world. At all,
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Speaker 4: and to suggest otherwise it's just I mean, I think
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Speaker 4: it's crazy. Honestly, the United States is the biggest military
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Speaker 4: in the world, and it's like the second, and the third,
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Speaker 4: and the fourth, and I think the fifth in terms
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Speaker 4: of largest air forces. You know, the Navy's fleet, You've
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Speaker 4: got the Marine Corps pilots. It's massive. We have I
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Speaker 4: think the top four out of five biggest air forces
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Speaker 4: in the world. That's including the United States Air Force
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Speaker 4: and the Navy and the Marines, right and the Army.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is bag So I don't think there's
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Speaker 4: any shortage of I don't feel any less safe, not
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Speaker 4: that I'm the barometer of all things safety, but you
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Speaker 4: get my point.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 4: Yesterday I also mentioned Zoron Mamdani, the mayor of New
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Speaker 4: York City, that he was let's just say, greeted appropriately
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Speaker 4: by some folks in Staten Island, New York when he
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Speaker 4: went to a police event. And you know, Zora Mamdani
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Speaker 4: doesn't have an excellent track record with the police. Listen
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Speaker 4: to how they treated him. Check this out, brother.
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Speaker 9: Stoics and thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 4: So that is why I'm Donnie. He gives a shout
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Speaker 4: out to Scott Lebato, who was hecting in him. Scott
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Speaker 4: walked away. The mayor got up there, said hello and
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Speaker 4: then left, and Scott Loveto walked away as well, and
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Speaker 4: lamentingly for Scott, he shortly thereafter had a cardiac event
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Speaker 4: and is now recovering. He was in the hospital giving
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Speaker 4: us a I would say a thumbs up, but it
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Speaker 4: was more like a middle finger shout out to Uncle Scottie,
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Speaker 4: Uncle Scott Lobedo who he is in our thoughts and prayers,
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Speaker 4: because Mom Donnie said his blood pressure so high it
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Speaker 4: almost clogged the pump. Again. Well, we'll touch base with
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Speaker 4: Scott and see how he's doing in a couple of days.
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Speaker 4: And something else, speaking of man Donnie, that I want
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Speaker 4: to talk about is the the guy in Michigan, Abdul Rachman. Right,
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Speaker 4: I was talking about him last night, Abdul Rahman. He said,
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Speaker 4: you have to say it like that, otherwise he'll give
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Speaker 4: you lessons. Abdul Rachman El Sayad.
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Speaker 6: He said.
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Speaker 3: That.
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Speaker 4: He said a lot of things. But the question we
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Speaker 4: were talking about last night was about affordability. But there's
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Speaker 4: some CNN data out where they're questioning whether this is
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Speaker 4: gonna be a benefit or a detriment to the Democrat Party. Now,
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Speaker 4: I know President Trump has put his stock in mamdani
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Speaker 4: El sayed, this woman kung all of these DSA Democrats,
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Speaker 4: socialists propelling Republicans, you know, across the finish line because
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Speaker 4: they're so radical that the Democrats and the people at
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Speaker 4: large are going to reject them. And I think that's
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Speaker 4: probably true. I just don't know how long it's true.
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Speaker 4: I know, you know, all politics is local and all
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Speaker 4: politics is today, So yeah, that might work this November.
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Speaker 4: Excuse me, but I wonder past November. How effective is
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Speaker 4: the strategy like that. And this is not to you know,
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Speaker 4: call into question anything Trump's doing. He's dealing the hand
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Speaker 4: he's got, right, I'm talking about the future next year,
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Speaker 4: the year after four years from now. We can't continue,
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Speaker 4: I think, to provide contrast like that. If the stuff
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Speaker 4: I talked about last night doesn't change, right, we have
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Speaker 4: to be able to take back the narrative. We have
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Speaker 4: to be able to actually see the economic engine of
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Speaker 4: America perr once again roar. And the reason it doesn't
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Speaker 4: roar is because government gets in the way. The left
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Speaker 4: gets in the way. So I'm going to talk about
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Speaker 4: that after we have our chat with Chief Stephenson. He's
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Speaker 4: a former chief of the United States Capitol Police in Washington,
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Speaker 4: d C. He was also commander of the police in Washington,
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Speaker 4: d C. And we're going to talk about a the
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Speaker 4: reflecting pool. Why Judge Janine Piro got ripped by Edreo.
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Speaker 4: I know you heard that clip in recent days, and
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Speaker 4: so we're going to talk about that. We're also going
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Speaker 4: to talk about this case out of New York because
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Speaker 4: in New York there's a deputy police commissioner for the
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Speaker 4: Wellness Department within the police department, and she's allegedly the
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Speaker 4: getaway driver for a gang related shooting involving miners as
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Speaker 4: young as fourteen year old excuse me, fourteen years old,
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Speaker 4: and one of them was her son. Listen to this.
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Speaker 1: Son of a former high ranking Mount Vernon police official
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Speaker 1: has been arraigned on attempted murder charges in the Bronx chase.
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Speaker 1: Lackard appeared in court this afternoon as a judge ordered
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Speaker 1: him held without bail. Prosecutors say the twenty year old
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Speaker 1: fired several shots into a crowd outside the Bronx Criminal
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Speaker 1: Courthouse in June, no one was hit. His father, James Lackard,
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Speaker 1: and his mother, Jennifer Lackard, are also accused of helping
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Speaker 1: their son carry out and flee the shooting. Jennifer Lackard
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Speaker 1: pleaded not guilty and has now been fired from her
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Speaker 1: job as Deputy Commissioner of Wellness for the Mountain or
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Speaker 1: In Police Department. Mother and son are due back in
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Speaker 1: court next month. James Lackard is not yet in custody.
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Speaker 1: Police sources say investigators have been in contact with him
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Speaker 1: and are negotiating his surrender.
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Speaker 4: Yep, you heard that right. His mom is the ghetaway driver.
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Speaker 4: He's fourteen years old. This kid already has a criminal past.
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Speaker 4: He's known for his criminality in the Bronx. We're going
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Speaker 4: to get to the bottom of it again with Stephen's son,
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Speaker 4: who joins us some momentarily. Don't go anywhere. I'm Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 5: This is America. This is America. He's got the best
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Speaker 5: head of hair and podcasting. This is America with Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 4: All right, famiyah, welcome back. As promised, I've got the
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Speaker 4: former chief of the DC Metro Police, Steven Sound is
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Speaker 4: with us.
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Speaker 2: Chief. Welcome it's great to be on with you with
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Speaker 2: your show, rich and as chief of Capitol Police, commander
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Speaker 2: with DC Police.
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Speaker 4: Outstanding right, Capitol Police and DC Police. Thanks for the correction.
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Speaker 4: And we've interviewed the chief before in his role as
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Speaker 4: chief during the January sixth riot and all the craziness
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Speaker 4: that ensued there. But Chief, what I want to talk
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Speaker 4: about today is a couple of things. First off, I
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Speaker 4: want to get your take on this deputy commissioner in
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Speaker 4: New York that has been arrested as the getaway driver
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Speaker 4: in a shooting involving her son who was in the
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Speaker 4: same car. That's wild, and we're going to get to
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Speaker 4: that in a moment. But I also wanted to touch
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Speaker 4: on something I think is close to home for you,
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Speaker 4: which is President Trump ripping the United States Attorney Judge
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Speaker 4: in Mpiro, a fellow New Yorker that I think she
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Speaker 4: does a heck of a job, but he's very upset
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Speaker 4: right that they ripped this reflecting pool that he just beautified,
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Speaker 4: and he takes his building job seriously as he should.
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Speaker 4: I laugh at this, thinking it's just, you know, it's
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Speaker 4: one of those things where none of us would be
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Speaker 4: talking about this if it weren't for the media getting
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Speaker 4: as involved as they do. But I'm glad that they
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Speaker 4: got the guy. But I don't know if there's a case.
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Speaker 4: Talk to me about this, because President Trump said she
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Speaker 4: folded right, she folded under pressure. He was really upset.
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Speaker 4: We've heard the clip. Talk to me, give me a reaction.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll tell you Rich, You're asolutely right. We
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be paying any attention to this if it wasn't
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Speaker 2: for all the media focusing because it was Trump's beautification
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Speaker 2: of Washington, DC. Let's first deal with that. But you're
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Speaker 2: absolutely right. In DC police, for twenty five plus years,
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Speaker 2: I've been down in the US Attorney's office many many
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Speaker 2: times papering cases with charging documents. Jeanine Piro is a
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Speaker 2: great US attorney. I talked to DC police regularly. She
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Speaker 2: has their back, She pushes, she pushes for prosecutions. I
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Speaker 2: have no doubt if she had a really good case,
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Speaker 2: or even had some good evidence that she'd be going
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Speaker 2: after David Hernan, wouldn't have dropped the the charges against them.
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Speaker 2: You know, people have to realize, you know, once it's
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Speaker 2: not just charging him, she has to then get it
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Speaker 2: through prosecution, through a grand jury and then through a
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Speaker 2: jury and jury trials and Walkington, DC are already already
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Speaker 2: tough as it is.
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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about why right is it? Because we
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Speaker 4: saw this with January sixth and with President Trump. But
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Speaker 4: in those situations it was political, right, it was we
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Speaker 4: don't like Republicans or we don't like conservatives, so you'll
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Speaker 4: never get a fair shot. I understand that part. But
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Speaker 4: somebody who did an act of criminality defacing a public monument,
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Speaker 4: I would think that's maybe more neutral or as that
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Speaker 4: naive of me.
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Speaker 2: Well, again, I think the jury pools in Washingt DC
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Speaker 2: are very small. It's a small group of the citizen
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Speaker 2: Washingt d C. It's a very liberal city and is
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Speaker 2: anything you have that has Trump associated with it, there's
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Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of anti Trump sentiment. But I
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Speaker 2: think when you look at it, you got to look
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Speaker 2: at the facts of the case. You know, if they have,
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Speaker 2: you know, clear cut evidence, If they have, that's going
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Speaker 2: to be very strong evidence to use in the case.
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Speaker 2: But if they just have you know, some people's witness statements,
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Speaker 2: and again you know, you may have to have some
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Speaker 2: other Witten statements for people saying he just lifted up
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Speaker 2: the plastic off that off of the water. That's stuff
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Speaker 2: she has to take before the jury and convince a jury,
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Speaker 2: which is very tough in the washingt d C. That
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Speaker 2: this person is guilty of a felony crime. So, you know,
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Speaker 2: any felonies are going to be a jury demandable trial
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Speaker 2: and they're can be tough to get through. So you've
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Speaker 2: got to have clear cut, really clean evidence to support that,
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 4: I think this is the part that a lot of people,
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Speaker 4: you know, in in our audience don't always take into account,
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Speaker 4: despite having been through their sixth grade social studies and
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Speaker 4: civic class I think we oftentimes forget it. It is
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Speaker 4: a very delicate dance, if you will, between the police
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Speaker 4: and the prosecutor to make sure that they get the
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Speaker 4: best case possible, right, because there's a defense attorney that's
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Speaker 4: lurking out there that's looking to say, Nope, you did
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Speaker 4: that wrong, Nope, you did this wrong, Nope, that's not admissible. Right,
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Speaker 4: So talk to me about you know, your experience with that,
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Speaker 4: which is why I think oftentimes both sides will plead
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Speaker 4: things down right. The cops will give you a lower charge,
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Speaker 4: the prosecutor will give you a lower charge. Because it's
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Speaker 4: easier to make it stick in some cases.
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Speaker 2: True, and oftentimes you get witnesses right off the bat,
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Speaker 2: especially in cases that are this politically charge, where you
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Speaker 2: know they're saying, hey, this is what I saw. But
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Speaker 2: then when you bring them in and you want to
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Speaker 2: put them on paper, you want to get it written down,
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Speaker 2: you want to get them locked into a statement, all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden things begin to change. Well I looked
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Speaker 2: over and maybe I didn't see him do what I
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Speaker 2: thought he said. But yeah, a lot of times that's
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Speaker 2: the case. You know, when it starts with the police officer.
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Speaker 2: The police officer makes the case. They put together the
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Speaker 2: what's call one to sixty three, the prosecuting document, the
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Speaker 2: two fifty ones, you know, all the charging documents. They
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Speaker 2: get them all together and they go down. And that's
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Speaker 2: called papering a case. You take your case down, done
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Speaker 2: it many many times. You go to the US Attorney's office.
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Speaker 2: You wait, get called in, they review your case. And
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Speaker 2: I may have a case for let's say, apo assault
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Speaker 2: on a police officer where a police officer gets beaten.
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Speaker 2: I charge the person. I take them down there. They
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Speaker 2: may look at over and go, you know, you really
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Speaker 2: don't have assault on a police officer that's going to
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Speaker 2: have to go before a jury. Let's do simple assault
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Speaker 2: and see if we can pleade it out. So you're
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Speaker 2: absolutely right. A lot of times we'll try and plead
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Speaker 2: these cases reduce them. And I'm surprised in this case,
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Speaker 2: if Jeanine Piro had the evidence, you'd at least go
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Speaker 2: and make you look at a reduced charge something like that.
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Speaker 2: So that's why I'm believing that maybe some of our
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Speaker 2: evidence has just fallen apart. But yeah, it has to
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Speaker 2: go through from the police officer to the prosecuting attorney,
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Speaker 2: and then it goes to the defense. Like you said,
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Speaker 2: defense has the ability to go through what's called discovery,
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Speaker 2: and they do discovery everything from the background of the
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Speaker 2: police officer that's charging the individual to all the paperwork,
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Speaker 2: making sure it's absolutely you know, all the tease across
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Speaker 2: the eyes of got it and absolutely perfect, because they
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Speaker 2: want to make sure this case is going to be
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Speaker 2: you know, air tight before it goes to a jury,
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Speaker 2: because you know that that jury again is going to
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Speaker 2: be very a lot of jury in Washing DC's anti police,
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Speaker 2: anti law enforcement, and anti conservative Trump. So you just
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Speaker 2: got a big hill to go up.
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Speaker 4: Chief, talk to us a little bit about this particular case.
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Speaker 4: What do you think is lack And again you're not
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Speaker 4: involved in it particularly, but from your perspective as as
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Speaker 4: a former chief and what you know from the media
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Speaker 4: reports speculatively, what's your thought on the hang up here?
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Speaker 4: What is it that they're missing or they may not
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Speaker 4: have in order to make this a slam dunk.
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Speaker 2: So again, not being absolutely involved in the case, you
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Speaker 2: know what I know of the case is this is
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Speaker 2: the case involving a Olympian, David Hearn. He's seen down
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Speaker 2: by the title base of the reflecting goal by the
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Speaker 2: Lincoln doing something by it. An individual I think tells
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Speaker 2: a National Guard or Nashguard may have seen him doing
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Speaker 2: something with the water, picking up some of the blue lining,
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Speaker 2: doing something like that and retrieving some of the blue
19:52
Speaker 2: lining from the water. Whether he's seen pulling it off
19:54
Speaker 2: the bottom, tearing it off the bottom or off the top,
19:56
Speaker 2: don't know. Wasn't there, but the National Guard stopped visual
20:00
Speaker 2: then go and get what's called the United States Park Police.
20:02
Speaker 2: It's National Park Territory Park Police come over placed mister
20:06
Speaker 2: Hearn under arrest, and whether it's DC police Park Police.
20:09
Speaker 2: It all goes before the US Attorney's Office, which are
20:12
Speaker 2: the prosecutors from watching DC and then it goes before them.
20:16
Speaker 2: So it has to be an issue with the witness
20:18
Speaker 2: statements or the evidence. And again in this case, you
20:21
Speaker 2: may have you may have some video evidence, but I
20:24
Speaker 2: believe they put up video cameras after this, and I
20:26
Speaker 2: don't know of any video cameras that would be specifically
20:28
Speaker 2: trained on that part of the reflecting pool. So most
20:31
Speaker 2: likely this is really hinging on witness statements. So I
20:35
Speaker 2: think a number of the witnesses are now you know,
20:37
Speaker 2: maybe recanting on what they saw, the detail of what
20:41
Speaker 2: they saw, because he's being charge with felony destruction of property.
20:45
Speaker 2: Felony of destruction of property of DC code is any
20:47
Speaker 2: destruction of property that results in over one thousand dollars
20:50
Speaker 2: worth of damage. So for you to charge somebody with
20:53
Speaker 2: destruction of property, that's willfully intentionally destroying property. So you
20:57
Speaker 2: have to have the witness statements. I say, I saw
20:59
Speaker 2: him reach in, had the line from the bottom, tore
21:01
Speaker 2: it off the bottom of the pool, you know, to
21:04
Speaker 2: that level to really get it through prosecution. So somehow
21:08
Speaker 2: I think the witness statements are falling apart or people
21:10
Speaker 2: are starting to recant the level of detail this all.
21:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again just to think this is a lining
21:17
Speaker 4: of a reflecting pool that was just redone right to
21:21
Speaker 4: the tune of a whole lot of money. So I'm
21:23
Speaker 4: pretty sure they met their thousand dollars threshold.
21:27
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt. It probably met the one thousand
21:29
Speaker 2: dollars threshold. And I have no doubt, you know, knowing
21:32
Speaker 2: Janine Piro and knowing just how law enforcement supportive she
21:36
Speaker 2: is if she had anything with this case that she
21:38
Speaker 2: can move forward, and knowing also how much she knows
21:40
Speaker 2: this means to President Trump, she would absolutely be pursuing this.
21:45
Speaker 2: So you know, there has to be a big issue
21:47
Speaker 2: with the with the witness statements in the evidence in
21:49
Speaker 2: this case makes sense.
21:51
Speaker 4: Chief, I want you to stick with me. We're going
21:52
Speaker 4: to take a quick pause. We're going to come right
21:54
Speaker 4: back and talk about the case of a deputy commissioner
21:57
Speaker 4: in New York that was arrested were allegedly being the
22:01
Speaker 4: getaway driver in her own son's shooting. And her son
22:04
Speaker 4: wasn't getting shot, he was doing the shooting. This is
22:07
Speaker 4: a crazy story. Keep your locked right here, folks, Rich
22:09
Speaker 4: Valdez coming right back with Chief Stevenson.
22:12
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22:34
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22:36
Speaker 5: Welcome to the program sir well, thank you, Rich and
22:39
Speaker 5: thank you for everything.
22:40
Speaker 3: I know you very well and I have I listen,
22:42
Speaker 3: but I have a lot of people that listen and
22:45
Speaker 3: they love your show and I appreciate it very much.
22:48
Speaker 4: All right, Emia, welcome back Rich Valdez and happy to
22:51
Speaker 4: be here with you tonight. Our guest is Chief Stephenson,
22:54
Speaker 4: former chief of the US Capitol Police. He spent some
22:57
Speaker 4: time as a commander as well of the DC Metro Police,
23:00
Speaker 4: and he's going to be commenting on this crazy case
23:03
Speaker 4: out of Mount Vernon, New York. Deputy Commissioner of Public Safety.
23:07
Speaker 4: Jennifer Lackard, she's a year older than me. She's forty
23:10
Speaker 4: nine years old. Her son, twenty year old Chase Lacquerard,
23:12
Speaker 4: were arrested at their home because why they say, he
23:15
Speaker 4: was an alleged gang member opening fire on a vehicle
23:19
Speaker 4: and she was the getaway driver. This is absolute insanity.
23:23
Speaker 4: Chief Son, tell me what you know about this and
23:25
Speaker 4: your reaction when you know I've never been a police chief, right,
23:28
Speaker 4: but you get to play one on the radio today.
23:30
Speaker 4: So tell me when as a police chief, you know
23:33
Speaker 4: you see this, what goes through your mind?
23:36
Speaker 2: You can't make this stuff up. This is absolutely terrible.
23:38
Speaker 2: You've got somebody that's now in a position of public trust,
23:41
Speaker 2: public safety, specifically in public trust, and they're out there
23:44
Speaker 2: driving a getaway car for the twenty year old son
23:46
Speaker 2: in a shooting. And you look at the background. From
23:49
Speaker 2: what I understand, Chase Lackered has a very diverse criminal history.
23:55
Speaker 2: He's been involved in other gang violence. He's allegedly shot
23:58
Speaker 2: at NYPD or brandish at least brandished a firearm and
24:02
Speaker 2: interacting with NYPD. So he's not doesn't sound like a
24:06
Speaker 2: stand up citizen. But again, you've got a you know,
24:10
Speaker 2: deputy police commissioner driving a getaway car. So she's at
24:14
Speaker 2: a Mount Vern in New York. That's where she's the
24:16
Speaker 2: deputy police commissioner. But the shooting happens in bra in
24:20
Speaker 2: the Bronx. Her home is in the Bronx. He's arrested
24:23
Speaker 2: at her home in the Bronx. So it's going to
24:25
Speaker 2: be Nype making the arrest. And it's a gang, a
24:28
Speaker 2: rival gang. Remember that the shooting occurs with and I've
24:31
Speaker 2: heard stories that maybe somebody aged fourteen to seventeen, but
24:35
Speaker 2: it's just it's terrible when you when someone just defiles
24:39
Speaker 2: that level of public trust in that way. It's it's
24:42
Speaker 2: terrible to see because you know, the citizens are looking
24:45
Speaker 2: to this person to make their community safer and she's
24:48
Speaker 2: out there, you know, making it less safe, significantly less safe.
24:52
Speaker 4: A chief, I know that you've seen your fair share
24:54
Speaker 4: of shootings involving fourteen year olds and twenty year olds
24:57
Speaker 4: being in DC. DC's not you know, I don't know.
25:00
Speaker 4: It's not the best city, right. It's gotten a lot better,
25:03
Speaker 4: but it's not I should say, not the safest city,
25:05
Speaker 4: right because it is a pretty cool city, but definitely
25:08
Speaker 4: not always the safest. And how many times in your
25:11
Speaker 4: career has the getaway driver been a police commissioner, a
25:16
Speaker 4: deputy police commissioner.
25:17
Speaker 2: Let me think about that. I'd have to say probably
25:19
Speaker 2: zero and again, I came out the very first year
25:21
Speaker 2: in nineteen nineteen ninety ninety one, we had four hundred
25:23
Speaker 2: and seventy three holicides or ver. My very first year
25:26
Speaker 2: on the streets, I was in Anacostia, I was in
25:28
Speaker 2: the tough part of Washington, d C. So it was
25:30
Speaker 2: it was regularly we were saying a couple homicides a week.
25:33
Speaker 2: Somebody once asked me, is, hey, have you ever had
25:34
Speaker 2: to pull your gun in the line of work. I'm like,
25:37
Speaker 2: I pulled my gun every night. I mean, we didn't
25:39
Speaker 2: have to just pull it eighty it was or twice.
25:41
Speaker 2: But no, I've never seen anything like that. You know,
25:43
Speaker 2: I've seen cases that involved law enforcement. You know, we've
25:46
Speaker 2: had law enforcements, some bad cops, but not you know,
25:49
Speaker 2: to this level where you have a deputy commissioner or
25:52
Speaker 2: high ranking law enforcement official. That's that's absolutely terrible. I
25:55
Speaker 2: never seen it.
25:55
Speaker 4: Let's talk about why you think this happens. Right, this
25:58
Speaker 4: particular deputy commissioner is appointed to her post as deputy
26:02
Speaker 4: commissioner in twenty twenty following the George Floyd ryots And
26:06
Speaker 4: I don't know if that was part of the rationale,
26:09
Speaker 4: if there was diversity, equity inclusion that played a role
26:11
Speaker 4: in this, but give me your thoughts on that snapshot
26:15
Speaker 4: and overall, how do we get to this place where
26:17
Speaker 4: somebody can rise in the ranks that high in law
26:21
Speaker 4: enforcement and be that involved. Some might argue as a parent,
26:25
Speaker 4: and I would argue as as someone that's a betting
26:27
Speaker 4: gang activity.
26:28
Speaker 2: Just the involvement of, you know, the previous criminal involvement
26:32
Speaker 2: of her son should have disqualified her from this position
26:35
Speaker 2: because just by Gilby association, it's a betting process. Whether
26:40
Speaker 2: you get a bad cop, whether you get a bad
26:43
Speaker 2: police official, it's it all usually comes down to bad betting.
26:46
Speaker 2: And I agree with you. I don't know a whole
26:47
Speaker 2: lot about her background. I know she's only been up
26:50
Speaker 2: there for a couple of years, five years now, five
26:52
Speaker 2: six years, and she may have been brought in specifically
26:55
Speaker 2: because you know, they're looking for some diversity.
26:57
Speaker 6: Who knows.
26:58
Speaker 2: But again, when you have this background, you know, who
27:02
Speaker 2: knows what's gonna happen. When you have family members that
27:05
Speaker 2: are involved in this type of stuff, that should automatically
27:07
Speaker 2: be a disqualifier for anybody in that type of position.
27:10
Speaker 2: But you know, right now, and we're seeing this, you know,
27:13
Speaker 2: across the country law enforcement leadership. When you have bad leadership,
27:16
Speaker 2: cops leave. And we're seeing a lot of law forcement
27:19
Speaker 2: agencies whose cops are leaving heading to other law enforcement agencies.
27:23
Speaker 2: They're having trouble with retention. They're having trouble with recruiting,
27:26
Speaker 2: and a lot of it comes down to leadership, so vetting.
27:29
Speaker 2: They've got to bet they've got to actually hire police
27:32
Speaker 2: officers because they're gonna be good cops, not because you know,
27:35
Speaker 2: you try to police somebody or some part of your community.
27:38
Speaker 6: You know.
27:38
Speaker 4: To that point, NYPD has had an exodus, a huge
27:44
Speaker 4: exodus of officers headed to Florida and Tennessee and all
27:47
Speaker 4: sorts of places. And they refuse to do the standard
27:53
Speaker 4: amount of police academy classes. I think they cut one,
27:57
Speaker 4: but they still brought in some new new police officers
28:00
Speaker 4: in NYPD. And I can tell you I grew up
28:03
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn and I moved to Jersey when I was twelve.
28:06
Speaker 4: My brothers were on the job in NYPD. They were
28:09
Speaker 4: very tough cops when I was a kid, very tough,
28:12
Speaker 4: very tough, and very polished. You know, their uniforms looked right.
28:16
Speaker 4: That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. And I
28:18
Speaker 4: don't mean to bash NYPD. I think they're probably one
28:20
Speaker 4: of the best in the world police organizations. But I
28:23
Speaker 4: feel like the current leadership, the current direction of this
28:26
Speaker 4: department has just gotten off and like you said, not
28:30
Speaker 4: necessarily NYPD, but I think a lot of departments have
28:33
Speaker 4: kind of lost their way. And talk to me about
28:36
Speaker 4: this trend that's happening in policing. I feel like we've
28:41
Speaker 4: seen this trend just to make a juxtaposition in prosecutions,
28:46
Speaker 4: when we started seeing prosecutors that were like, you know what,
28:49
Speaker 4: we see too many of this type of person in jail.
28:52
Speaker 4: Let's stop prosecuting them. Let's be a little more lenient,
28:55
Speaker 4: right creating, I guess legislating from the position of prosecutor.
29:00
Speaker 4: Do you see similarities in that approach to policing now
29:04
Speaker 4: given the defund the police movement, Well.
29:08
Speaker 2: It's funny, like you said, you see prosecutors and judges
29:12
Speaker 2: that are bypassing you know, what the community wants, what
29:15
Speaker 2: the juries are are demanding, which is which is scary,
29:18
Speaker 2: But it's interesting. I've got a lot of friends with
29:19
Speaker 2: NYPD think very, very highly of them. I can tell
29:22
Speaker 2: you do too. As soon as you say on the job, ye,
29:25
Speaker 2: you know, somebody there great, great organization. But when I
29:28
Speaker 2: talk to them, they're like, you know, they feel leaderless
29:32
Speaker 2: right now. And again it goes all the way up
29:34
Speaker 2: to the mayor. You know, there's a saying that fish
29:37
Speaker 2: rots from the head down. When you have somebody that
29:40
Speaker 2: is in charge of the city that is making some
29:43
Speaker 2: of the statements that they've made prior to getting hired,
29:46
Speaker 2: getting elected, and then being elected, they just don't feel
29:49
Speaker 2: safe in their position. They don't feel like they're going
29:51
Speaker 2: to be backed. And you're seeing that with city councils
29:54
Speaker 2: and different cities, with mayors in different cities. You see
29:57
Speaker 2: that in Chicago with Mayor Brandon. When you don't feel
30:01
Speaker 2: you have the backing, cops are going to even go elsewhere,
30:04
Speaker 2: which I can't can't blame them, and I think they should.
30:07
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're seeing that. You're seeing that both in
30:09
Speaker 2: the retention with the quality. You know, again I can
30:13
Speaker 2: let let's look at the reverse. You know, I live
30:15
Speaker 2: out in northern Virginia. Right nearby we've got a town
30:17
Speaker 2: loud In County. Mike Chapman is a sheriff, great leader.
30:21
Speaker 2: He sets high standards, high demands, and you see that
30:24
Speaker 2: in every one of his officers. On every traffic stop.
30:26
Speaker 2: I'll look and I'll see them. They're squared away, they're
30:28
Speaker 2: very being, very professional. They do their job, and again,
30:32
Speaker 2: it just has to do with the leaders that you
30:33
Speaker 2: have in place, and what they're doing, and what the
30:35
Speaker 2: citizens are are demanding, what they're response to the citizens.
30:40
Speaker 2: So when you have leaders that don't that look, you know,
30:43
Speaker 2: to other reasons, you know that they're there. They're there
30:46
Speaker 2: for what's it thinking reframing justice or whatever it may be.
30:51
Speaker 2: That's not your job. Your job is to enforce the laws,
30:55
Speaker 2: enforce the code as it's written, and let the prosecutors
30:58
Speaker 2: do what they got to do.
30:59
Speaker 4: And we need more cops like that A softer question,
31:03
Speaker 4: more on the direction of things.
31:04
Speaker 6: Right.
31:04
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of anti police sentiment that
31:06
Speaker 4: I hear and I constantly engage with because I've never
31:10
Speaker 4: been anti police. I've always thought, you know, I was
31:13
Speaker 4: a little kid and I remember cops coming to my
31:15
Speaker 4: school assembly telling me the policeman is your friend. And
31:18
Speaker 4: my brothers were cops, and I thought they were the
31:21
Speaker 4: coolest guys ever. And I don't know how that was.
31:24
Speaker 4: Every kid I knew thought the same way, Right, it
31:26
Speaker 4: was cool. It's like little kids seeing a fireman, right,
31:29
Speaker 4: they thought that was cool and heroic. But there seems
31:32
Speaker 4: to be a shift. I mean, I can tell you
31:33
Speaker 4: in New York, the standard greeting for the NYPD when
31:37
Speaker 4: they meet somebody on the street is suck my bleep.
31:40
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a standard greeting. It's incredible how
31:43
Speaker 4: many people are responding to cops this way. And it's
31:47
Speaker 4: not necessarily anti police all the time. A lot of
31:50
Speaker 4: times it's anti establishment. They feel like the government is
31:54
Speaker 4: overreaching and they may not be wrong in certain cases,
31:57
Speaker 4: right like Mike Bloomberg overdoing stop in frisk, which I
32:01
Speaker 4: thought was a fantastic tool, and he ruined it for everybody.
32:03
Speaker 4: So how do you weigh in on this? On this trend?
32:10
Speaker 4: I feel I feel like there is a trend, an
32:12
Speaker 4: anti police trend. Acab F twelve. You've seen all these things.
32:16
Speaker 4: They didn't. It was FTP when I was a kid,
32:18
Speaker 4: and it was limited to the West coast right in
32:20
Speaker 4: the rappers. Today it's it seems like it's everywhere.
32:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. We used to have it
32:26
Speaker 2: with just some of the real real bad folks in Washington, DC.
32:30
Speaker 2: You'd hear you'd roll into the block and you hear
32:32
Speaker 2: the FTP and stuff like that, but not when you
32:35
Speaker 2: see it in a little bit more mainstream. And again,
32:37
Speaker 2: it came with a lot a lot of the defund
32:39
Speaker 2: the police, some of the comments that were made with
32:41
Speaker 2: defund the police, whether it was George Floyd, whether you
32:44
Speaker 2: know it was you know the different you name it.
32:46
Speaker 2: You've got the pro the protests that occurred in Baltimore
32:49
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen after some of these some of these cases,
32:53
Speaker 2: and you know, I just think it became, like you said,
32:56
Speaker 2: almost an establishment type of type of position. You'd hear
32:59
Speaker 2: it in the media, and you hear from some media
33:02
Speaker 2: that they still push it in their anti police or
33:04
Speaker 2: anti law enforcement, their anti establishment. But you've got to
33:08
Speaker 2: have law and order. You don't have lawn order. I'll
33:10
Speaker 2: tell you what. Anybody that raises kids, you don't set boundaries,
33:13
Speaker 2: you don't have consequences. You're gonna have kids that are
33:16
Speaker 2: out of control. You've got to have law and order.
33:18
Speaker 2: And you got to have police that they're doing what
33:20
Speaker 2: they do. And as as a control cop in the
33:22
Speaker 2: early nineteen nineties, I used to, you know, go into
33:25
Speaker 2: a Wendy's or going to someplace to grab lunch, and
33:27
Speaker 2: every once in a while you would see a parent
33:28
Speaker 2: that look at their their kids say, oh, look at it,
33:31
Speaker 2: and look at the cop. He's gonna wrest you, he's
33:32
Speaker 2: going to take you away and stuff like this, and
33:34
Speaker 2: Paint is a bad person. You know, that doesn't help.
33:37
Speaker 2: We're not bad people. And that used to be the
33:38
Speaker 2: extent of it, except for you know, the bad folks
33:40
Speaker 2: you know calling yet you know FTP. But now you know,
33:44
Speaker 2: it's just a whole different situation. You know, it just
33:46
Speaker 2: seems like, you know, it's it's mainstream to you know,
33:48
Speaker 2: as people find out you're a police officer, they you know,
33:51
Speaker 2: you lose friends. They don't want to you know, they
33:53
Speaker 2: don't want associate with you.
33:54
Speaker 4: Wow, have at it.
33:55
Speaker 2: I don't know if you like that, Uh, but yeah,
33:58
Speaker 2: I think it's just been made mainstream by I won,
34:00
Speaker 2: by some politicians that are out there and buy some
34:03
Speaker 2: media that you're hearing they did.
34:05
Speaker 4: You know, I agree with you, and I think the
34:07
Speaker 4: only thing I would add, and you tell me if
34:09
Speaker 4: you agree or disagree, is AOC allowed crazy and her
34:13
Speaker 4: movement to abolish ICE. I think this abolished ice idea
34:17
Speaker 4: has fueled more anti police sentiment and it's put politicians
34:23
Speaker 4: kind of in a spot where they're like, oh, we
34:25
Speaker 4: want to do the right thing, but everybody hates ice.
34:27
Speaker 4: That's like the third rail. It's satan if you know. So,
34:30
Speaker 4: our local guys can't go near the ICE guys because
34:33
Speaker 4: and that's part of the problem, right, is them ostracizing
34:35
Speaker 4: the federal authorities from doing their job. These sanctuary cities.
34:39
Speaker 4: To me, it's a big loop of problems.
34:41
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Yeah, I agree. You know, as since you
34:44
Speaker 2: ostracize one agency, you know, ICE is law enforcement, and
34:47
Speaker 2: as you start ostracizing them, you include all of law enforcement.
34:50
Speaker 2: The problem they'rerunn into is let's look at Chicago, the
34:53
Speaker 2: ostracized ICE and then all of a sudden you hear
34:55
Speaker 2: Chicago police not responding to assist them when they're being
34:58
Speaker 2: shot at and when they're you know, needing us distance,
35:00
Speaker 2: and it just you know, starts a bad cascading effect.
35:03
Speaker 2: But I agree with you, and now you have some
35:06
Speaker 2: people that are running We just saw it in some
35:08
Speaker 2: of the primaries where before the primaries were talking about
35:10
Speaker 2: shutting down the prisons, releasing everybody from prison. Uh, abolishing ICE,
35:14
Speaker 2: abolishing law enforcement. You got to be kidding me, you know,
35:17
Speaker 2: you know that imagine what that community would be like.
35:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild. It's wild to me that this is happening.
35:22
Speaker 4: It's also wild to me that there are people that
35:23
Speaker 4: take a sympathetic stance towards child predators and say you
35:27
Speaker 4: give them a chance and let them. You know, I
35:29
Speaker 4: just heard a crazy story the other day of somebody
35:31
Speaker 4: that was kicked out of like a kid's place where
35:34
Speaker 4: kids go to jump on trampolines and kicked out four
35:37
Speaker 4: times before he was arrested. How do you kick a
35:40
Speaker 4: guy like that out? Like I would like call the
35:43
Speaker 4: cops and say, hey, there's a guy here creeping on
35:45
Speaker 4: little kids, you know, not hey, get out of here.
35:47
Speaker 6: Pal.
35:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've got a predator, especially you know, with
35:49
Speaker 2: little kids, and that's one of the things, the child trafficking,
35:54
Speaker 2: the sexual predators that are out there is zero tolerance,
35:57
Speaker 2: zero tolerance for that. You got to stop right away,
36:01
Speaker 2: you know. Any I can't think of any law enforcement
36:03
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take action on that. But if you've got
36:05
Speaker 2: a establishment that's not willing to call in law enforcement
36:08
Speaker 2: for that type activity, that's that's sad. And you know,
36:11
Speaker 2: you've got a lot a lot of a lot of
36:13
Speaker 2: establishments nowadays. Just you know, to go talk further about
36:16
Speaker 2: the anti law enforcement that if they do have somebody
36:18
Speaker 2: that comes in commits crime. They have policies against calling
36:21
Speaker 2: law enforcement. So someone comes in and either you know,
36:25
Speaker 2: steal something or verbally assaults a employee, they're forbidden from
36:30
Speaker 2: calling law enforcement. That's terrible. So whether it's you know,
36:34
Speaker 2: somebody are harassing in children, I don't know, but I
36:37
Speaker 2: think that's unacceptable.
36:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And I think what happens is what
36:41
Speaker 4: you just said that there's some places that have policies
36:43
Speaker 4: preventing it. I think the same is true where you
36:45
Speaker 4: have places that just don't have a policy, so employees
36:48
Speaker 4: don't know what to do. They're kind of act acting
36:50
Speaker 4: in silos and they're like, I don't know.
36:51
Speaker 8: What to do.
36:51
Speaker 4: Just get out of here, you know, to preserve safety
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Speaker 4: for the kid. And I think it's that lack of
36:56
Speaker 4: policy or that lack of saying, hey, we may encounter
36:58
Speaker 4: weirdos that come here, and you want to trap them.
37:02
Speaker 4: You want to make sure you call the cops because
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Speaker 4: you want to get you want to have these people
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Speaker 4: behind bars.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're scared. They're scared of any association, any
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Speaker 2: any communications with lawforcement because of how they've been bilified
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Speaker 2: in the media and out there in the press.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, children shouldn't have to pay the price, and I
37:19
Speaker 4: think you're exactly right now, Chief, let everybody know where
37:23
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37:28
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 2: I just did a two hour interview with one of
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37:45
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Speaker 4: was We spent a significant amount of time talking about
39:00
Speaker 4: out aerial safety using drones and the mitigation of threats
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Speaker 4: even a thing, right, it was a.
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Speaker 2: Really big, big thing concerned, great great tool, but also
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Speaker 2: a big concern. But yeah, he did. He did a
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Speaker 2: great job down there, saying with GB Jones, the former
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Speaker 2: FBI got it was an over at FIFA. Uh they
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Speaker 4: Yep, and kudos to the new Jersey State Police Chief Stevenson.
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Speaker 4: I want to thank you for being here.
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Speaker 2: God speed, god speed, Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 4: You bet.
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Speaker 8: This is America, This is America, all right, FU media,
39:47
Speaker 8: welcome back.
39:48
Speaker 4: Rich Bonde's keeping your company. And I want to get
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Speaker 4: into a couple of things here a couple of little
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Speaker 4: bit of a SHM. Morgas board this segment and maybe
39:56
Speaker 4: the next or maybe this would be one long segment
39:58
Speaker 4: whatever I feel like I want to get into this.
40:02
Speaker 4: Continue to attack on the police by the socialists right,
40:07
Speaker 4: in particular the Democrat socialists of America. They tend to
40:14
Speaker 4: try and continually make the case that we should abolish
40:17
Speaker 4: the police. First it was defund the police, abolish ice.
40:20
Speaker 4: Now there's an entire abolish the police movement that I
40:24
Speaker 4: don't know that the general public really agrees with, right.
40:30
Speaker 4: I don't think that most people want there to be
40:32
Speaker 4: no police, maybe in you know, in the backwoods, you know,
40:36
Speaker 4: or in maybe some very very uh high crime areas
40:47
Speaker 4: where they prefer not to see the police because it
40:49
Speaker 4: interferes with their criminal activity by and large, even me
40:53
Speaker 4: right that I could do without the government as a whole.
40:55
Speaker 4: I'm that radical, but I realized, look, if we're going
40:59
Speaker 4: to have a government, we should have some police. And
41:02
Speaker 4: if we're not gonna have some police, let us all
41:04
Speaker 4: have all the guns we need. I know that this
41:07
Speaker 4: is a fantasy, say utopian conservative fantasy. On my side,
41:11
Speaker 4: It's not gonna happen, got it. I'm not calling for
41:14
Speaker 4: the end of the abolition of police either. I support
41:18
Speaker 4: the police most times when they're not overly tyrannical and
41:22
Speaker 4: they understand the Constitution and they take the peace officer
41:27
Speaker 4: framework to protect and serve as opposed to you know
41:31
Speaker 4: some people that make themselves the center of their police work,
41:37
Speaker 4: you know, their own desire to arrive at home alive.
41:41
Speaker 4: And I know that sounds extreme because you know, any
41:45
Speaker 4: cop listening to me right now, as I say, hold on,
41:47
Speaker 4: how did you say you back the blue and you
41:48
Speaker 4: don't want me to come home alive? No, that's not
41:50
Speaker 4: what I said. I just said that any good cop,
41:54
Speaker 4: in my opinion, could be on the last job of
41:58
Speaker 4: the day, right before quitting time, and he knows that
42:01
Speaker 4: he may have to put his life on the line
42:04
Speaker 4: on that job. It's that simple. If your desire to
42:08
Speaker 4: get home alive outweighs your desire to do the job,
42:12
Speaker 4: then you're probably not in the right job. That's all
42:15
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And I feel like sometimes that overshadows things
42:19
Speaker 4: where people are letting a lot of things go because
42:21
Speaker 4: they're like, I'm not going to get involved in this.
42:23
Speaker 4: I got fifteen minutes before I go home, and that
42:26
Speaker 4: does happen lamentably doesn't happen a lot. I think most
42:29
Speaker 4: cops do the right thing irrespective of the clock, because
42:32
Speaker 4: they became cops to do the right thing, which is
42:35
Speaker 4: why I applaud them, and I think that they're heroes.
42:39
Speaker 4: But every now and again you get a bad apple.
42:41
Speaker 4: And that's not what this segment's about. This segment is
42:46
Speaker 4: really about what was it about security? What am I
42:50
Speaker 4: talking about here?
42:52
Speaker 6: Oh?
42:52
Speaker 4: Yes? The DSA, the Democrat Socialist of America and how
42:57
Speaker 4: they want to defund police and candidates like lsied like
43:02
Speaker 4: aoc all I'm crazy and so many others, including ms
43:06
Speaker 4: Kong who's running for governor. These people, they will sidestep
43:12
Speaker 4: this question entirely when they think that the question is
43:16
Speaker 4: too sharp and you've framed it in a way that
43:19
Speaker 4: makes them look negative. Here's a perfect example of the woman,
43:23
Speaker 4: Miss Kong Ko and g she's running for governor of Wisconsin.
43:28
Speaker 4: Listen to this pees.
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Speaker 10: Back in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, you wrote,
43:33
Speaker 10: I support defunding the police as a first step towards
43:36
Speaker 10: abolishing the police, and that.
43:37
Speaker 6: Reform can't be an option.
43:40
Speaker 10: I know you say that a governor cannot defund the
43:43
Speaker 10: police and that you do not want to quote govern
43:46
Speaker 10: by slogan.
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Speaker 6: I just want to be clear.
43:49
Speaker 10: Does this mean that you no longer believe in the
43:52
Speaker 10: goal of defunding and ultimately abolishing the police that you now.
43:56
Speaker 4: Let me just share with you. I'm watching the video
43:58
Speaker 4: of this while you're listening to this center. You can't
44:00
Speaker 4: see it right now. This woman, I think her name
44:02
Speaker 4: is Jessica. I could be wrong, forgive me. I have
44:05
Speaker 4: so many things on my desk, but Ms Kong she
44:09
Speaker 4: has the smirk, the Zorn Mamdani smirk, the same smirk
44:15
Speaker 4: that AOC occasionally has. Right, AOC throws in a nod
44:19
Speaker 4: at times like m letting you, letting you feel I
44:23
Speaker 4: understand you, I am tracking with you. I don't agree
44:26
Speaker 4: with you, And I'm about to tell you something that
44:29
Speaker 4: you don't expect to hear. But they give you this smirk,
44:32
Speaker 4: but almost like a smile in it, like yeah, oh yeah.
44:39
Speaker 6: He posted about five years ago.
44:44
Speaker 11: I believe that safety is a human right.
44:46
Speaker 7: That I'm going to be a governor that is more
44:48
Speaker 7: serious about public safety than any other governor.
44:51
Speaker 4: And I'm let's take those apart, shall we we shall
44:55
Speaker 4: that's a libanism by the way, all right, I believe
45:00
Speaker 4: that public safety is a human right. So that's Dna
45:05
Speaker 4: bash who, in my opinion, is a sympathizer of theirs.
45:09
Speaker 4: What color are your shoes? I believe people have the
45:14
Speaker 4: right to have legs. Doesn't really answer the question, does it,
45:19
Speaker 4: But this is how it works. And then she continues
45:22
Speaker 4: to double down, saying that she will be the most
45:25
Speaker 4: effective governor ever on this issue.
45:28
Speaker 7: I'm willing to work with community organizers, faith leaders, local
45:32
Speaker 7: governments where public many of our public safety systems are funded, and.
45:38
Speaker 4: All right, she's willing to work with community organizers on policing. Right,
45:47
Speaker 4: She's willing to work with faith leaders on policing, with
45:52
Speaker 4: local law enforcement where many of these things are funded.
45:59
Speaker 4: She said, now, I think you and I both know
46:02
Speaker 4: there's a massive amount of funding for police departments that
46:04
Speaker 4: comes from the federal government. And who did she leave
46:07
Speaker 4: out the federal government, who, in particular ice.
46:11
Speaker 11: Anyone believes in defunding the police.
46:13
Speaker 7: It's been Robin Voss and the Republicans and the state
46:16
Speaker 7: legislature who have ruled the legislature for over sixteen years
46:20
Speaker 7: and have no palms around defunding our local governments, where
46:24
Speaker 7: these are folks who provide some of the most essential
46:27
Speaker 7: services in preventing violence and making sure that we're getting
46:31
Speaker 7: guns off of our street, and so to be serious
46:34
Speaker 7: about public safety, I'm most interested in making sure that
46:37
Speaker 7: we are being tough on the causes. If we're going
46:40
Speaker 7: to be tough on crime and make sure that we
46:42
Speaker 7: build community safety all across the state.
46:47
Speaker 4: That's another non answer, but a good soapbox. And this
46:51
Speaker 4: is what makes a good politician, right because people, ultimately,
46:56
Speaker 4: I'm going to say seven out of ten people who
46:59
Speaker 4: watch programs like this, they don't listen to the question,
47:02
Speaker 4: they listen to the answer, and the answer makes this
47:07
Speaker 4: woman out to be a hero. We're gonna work with
47:10
Speaker 4: the community, We're gonna do this we're gonna get guns
47:13
Speaker 4: off the street. We are gonna, We're gonna I mean,
47:15
Speaker 4: these people are some of the best wordsmiths out there,
47:19
Speaker 4: and it's important to be able to call that out.
47:21
Speaker 4: And I know you guys see this stuff, but there
47:23
Speaker 4: are so many young people that just hear that. And
47:25
Speaker 4: as soon as these women start talking the aocs, the
47:29
Speaker 4: Kongs and the like, they start nodding and they're like, yeah,
47:33
Speaker 4: how could you be against that? And that's part of
47:37
Speaker 4: the problem. Their power of persuasion, I think beats ours
47:41
Speaker 4: and that's something we've got to work on.
47:44
Speaker 6: Did your opinion change then on defunding the police?
47:49
Speaker 7: And I think that people can evolve that I am
47:51
Speaker 7: a going to be a sensible and practical government.
47:55
Speaker 2: So no, yes and no no.
47:57
Speaker 4: But she says people can evolve again another platitude. Why
48:00
Speaker 4: because people listening to this they are going to say, yeah, shoot,
48:02
Speaker 4: I evolve on things too. Right. I'm not a Democrat,
48:05
Speaker 4: I'm not a Republican. I don't even call myself an independent.
48:08
Speaker 4: On some issues, I'm more to the riot. On some issues,
48:10
Speaker 4: I'm more to the left. This is how people think right,
48:13
Speaker 4: which I think honestly is part of the problem. I
48:16
Speaker 4: think it's kind of the way I end this program
48:18
Speaker 4: every day and I say, if you stand for nothing,
48:20
Speaker 4: you fall for everything. And that's part of that. You
48:23
Speaker 4: can't be soft on this issue and hard on that
48:25
Speaker 4: issue because you don't know why you're being soft or not.
48:29
Speaker 4: It's just your emotion that's leading you to come to
48:32
Speaker 4: that conclusion and guess what that is your right and
48:34
Speaker 4: that is why sometimes these people win. And that's why
48:38
Speaker 4: the voter rolls are like ten to one Democrat. Now
48:41
Speaker 4: those numbers are changing in a lot of blue states
48:45
Speaker 4: and throughout the country, but it's a work in progress.
48:48
Speaker 4: Let's continue to her obfuscation of the question on defunding the.
48:51
Speaker 7: Police and governor that is going to make sure that
48:55
Speaker 7: public safety is a priority, and how you evolved on
48:58
Speaker 7: there is safety.
49:00
Speaker 11: I think that what you know my values are.
49:04
Speaker 4: Now, to her credit, Dana Bash says, so you evolved
49:06
Speaker 4: on it, looking again for a yes or no, and
49:09
Speaker 4: again this woman comes with, I think my values.
49:12
Speaker 11: Are where some of my beliefs are as well, But
49:15
Speaker 11: where my values are.
49:17
Speaker 7: Is in you know, making sure that public safety is
49:20
Speaker 7: for everyone, that everyone has access to it.
49:22
Speaker 11: And I think that you know what what I I.
49:25
Speaker 4: Want to know who doesn't have access to public safety?
49:30
Speaker 4: The citizens walking around Manhattan, most of them don't have
49:35
Speaker 4: access to public safety. All right, that's why people are
49:37
Speaker 4: getting raped in the subways, raped in other places. Rapes
49:41
Speaker 4: are up. They say, no, they're not getting raped. That's
49:43
Speaker 4: because we are now classifying rapes differently, like you know,
49:47
Speaker 4: women getting I just saw a video women walk. I
49:49
Speaker 4: wish I could play it for you, but it's just
49:51
Speaker 4: too involved. But this woman is walking and she says
49:54
Speaker 4: she bumps into a guy and in the bumping in,
49:57
Speaker 4: the guy grabs a handful of her butt and she
50:02
Speaker 4: pulls out her camera and she goes to confront him.
50:04
Speaker 4: And I'll come back to this video on a second.
50:07
Speaker 4: And she in doing this. He's laughing. He thinks it's
50:11
Speaker 4: the funniest thing. And he's like, but have you seen
50:13
Speaker 4: your booty? Though, I mean, I'm saying, have you seen
50:16
Speaker 4: your booty? Is out of this world? What do you expect?
50:19
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I grabbed your booty. What I mean,
50:22
Speaker 4: just unabashed, brazen. That's okay in New York. You know why,
50:28
Speaker 4: because the system is breeding that no one has respect
50:33
Speaker 4: for the authorities because they have defanged the police. This
50:38
Speaker 4: is what happens when you do that. So it's reinforced
50:41
Speaker 4: at home, it's reinforced in the streets, and now it's
50:43
Speaker 4: reinforced from the mayor's office down that the police are
50:47
Speaker 4: only here for to clean up the mess, not to
50:50
Speaker 4: prevent it. Play the tape.
50:54
Speaker 7: It believed in the past, like that can evolve, But
50:58
Speaker 7: I still know that I can can I cannot defund
51:02
Speaker 7: police as governor.
51:03
Speaker 11: And what I want to do is.
51:05
Speaker 4: Make She's saying, I know I can't do it. Not
51:08
Speaker 4: I don't want to do it. She's just saying I
51:10
Speaker 4: don't have the power to do it.
51:13
Speaker 7: Being sure that we're fully funding, investing in the community
51:17
Speaker 7: programs that we know actually work, that data shows build
51:21
Speaker 7: community safety. And again the belief that I have, the
51:24
Speaker 7: values that I hold is that everyone has a right
51:27
Speaker 7: to feel safe and be safe.
51:30
Speaker 6: I just want to just to sort of put a
51:31
Speaker 6: fine point on it.
51:33
Speaker 4: Her head is spinning. She's like, I'm just asking a
51:35
Speaker 4: simple answer, no question, Will you please answer it.
51:38
Speaker 10: You said your views can evolve. Have your views actually
51:42
Speaker 10: evolved on defunding the police.
51:46
Speaker 7: We had a police shooting in my hometown of Madison, Wisconsin.
51:50
Speaker 7: It's actually the third one to happen on Willy Street,
51:54
Speaker 7: which is in my district. And it's difficult for me
51:58
Speaker 7: to think about what I would say to a mother
52:00
Speaker 7: who has lost their children to police violence.
52:03
Speaker 4: But I know that police violence. Now, is this not
52:10
Speaker 4: the epitome of rhetoric police violence? I thought it was
52:14
Speaker 4: really bad when they called it gun violence, as if
52:18
Speaker 4: guns are inherently violent. And again people argue against that, saying, well,
52:23
Speaker 4: of course guns are inherently violent. What are they for
52:26
Speaker 4: but for to kill? But it's an inanimate tool. So
52:32
Speaker 4: if you want to make that argument, take it to
52:33
Speaker 4: its logical extreme and say that humans therefore are inherently violent,
52:38
Speaker 4: or that humans who possess guns are inherently violent. And
52:42
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that statement, but that would be,
52:44
Speaker 4: to me, the logical next step. But she doesn't even
52:46
Speaker 4: make that case. Now, it's the police that are violent.
52:49
Speaker 4: You see how they do this unbelievable.
52:54
Speaker 7: We can change these systems that must be changed. There
52:57
Speaker 7: are folks who work in prisons. They have some of
53:00
Speaker 7: the highest suicide rates for any employment that were working.
53:04
Speaker 4: In prisons sucks. These people are savages and you got
53:10
Speaker 4: to deal with them on a daily basis. I know
53:12
Speaker 4: a couple of people that worked in the jail.
53:14
Speaker 5: Not easy.
53:14
Speaker 4: One of my friends just retired after twenty five years.
53:17
Speaker 4: If it wasn't for his Christian faith, he wouldn't have
53:19
Speaker 4: gotten through it.
53:21
Speaker 7: We need to make sure that every incarcerated person can
53:23
Speaker 7: live a life of dignity.
53:25
Speaker 4: That ninety nine a life of dignity. Do the crime,
53:29
Speaker 4: get convicted by a jury of your peers, you're going
53:31
Speaker 4: to come and live with dignity. Now, I'm not saying
53:34
Speaker 4: we should mistreat people. I'm not, but I'm saying, come on,
53:37
Speaker 4: it is punishment. It is the corrective process, the Department
53:41
Speaker 4: of Corrections, it's jail. It's not supposed to be nice.
53:46
Speaker 7: Percent of incarcerated folks in our state will be going
53:49
Speaker 7: into community and we have to lower those recidi recidivism
53:53
Speaker 7: rates to make sure invest in mental health resources, in
53:57
Speaker 7: tackling the opioid in for your.
54:00
Speaker 4: Epidemic, Oh well, she can't even say it, but opioid epidemic.
54:05
Speaker 4: I just saw one on this about a guy, nice guy,
54:09
Speaker 4: seems like a really good guy in New York that's
54:12
Speaker 4: running in a safe needle place where you go to
54:18
Speaker 4: get high instead of being outside. It's not an open
54:20
Speaker 4: air sanctuary, it's a closed door one. And people are
54:25
Speaker 4: going nuts over this. I'm going to get to that
54:27
Speaker 4: maybe a Monday, MEGA.
54:31
Speaker 7: And I think that when we have a governor that
54:33
Speaker 7: believes in those things, we can achieve public safety.
54:37
Speaker 6: You posted a lot about the police.
54:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she won't even answer your questions even though
54:42
Speaker 4: she's posting a lot about the police. And that is
54:46
Speaker 4: lamentably the bottom line here, right, this is a sad
54:51
Speaker 4: case of you're not going to get this woman to
54:53
Speaker 4: tell the truth. She's just not going to do it.
54:56
Speaker 4: She's like Mom Donnie, She's like AOC. Honestly, I'll say,
54:59
Speaker 4: AOC is the week of them. So I say, just
55:03
Speaker 4: like they brought us Kamala Harris, Oh, please bring USAOC,
55:08
Speaker 4: Please bring USAOC. She's no Mom Donnie. That's for sure.
55:13
Speaker 4: He's a lot more effective. He's a lot sharper. He
55:16
Speaker 4: does a better job than she does. This woman. She's
55:22
Speaker 4: also pretty weak, but she's probably good enough to become
55:24
Speaker 4: governor because ultimately they always speak back, you know, left
55:29
Speaker 4: wing populists, they always bring it back to the people.
55:33
Speaker 4: It's a populist do and Trump has been effective at
55:38
Speaker 4: that as well, but he hasn't been as effective in
55:43
Speaker 4: creating more right wing populists. If that's a you know,
55:48
Speaker 4: I think that's a statement or an observation, not so
55:50
Speaker 4: much of a critique. I'm not a populist myself. I
55:55
Speaker 4: would like to consider myself a constitutional conservative that I
55:59
Speaker 4: stand on. I don't care about populism. I don't care
56:03
Speaker 4: about the masses per se and their thoughts. I care
56:07
Speaker 4: about what the Constitution says and what my rights are.
56:09
Speaker 4: And then stay out the way right, small government conservative
56:14
Speaker 4: and I know not everybody's in my lane, and that's okay,
56:18
Speaker 4: but without more populists. And I don't mean like JD. Vance,
56:25
Speaker 4: because the populace seem to have embraced this no more
56:28
Speaker 4: foreign wars, and that's something I've never been able to
56:32
Speaker 4: get behind. I have often said, you could take my
56:38
Speaker 4: kids to war if you like. If they want to
56:40
Speaker 4: go to the military, go right ahead. I encouraged them
56:42
Speaker 4: to go to the military. You can take me. You
56:45
Speaker 4: want to open up the draft to a forty eight
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Speaker 4: year old man, I'll go. If I can hang with
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Speaker 4: the workout, I'll do my best too, and I will
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Speaker 4: go and I'll put my life on the line, I
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Speaker 4: honestly would, gladly would. Why Because I think it's the
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Speaker 4: right thing to do. I think that in order for
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Speaker 4: the United States to maintain its competitive advantage as the
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Speaker 4: world's superpower, and so that we have the respect that
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Speaker 4: I think is needed in order to continue just the
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Speaker 4: mere existence of the United States as is, we have
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Speaker 4: to maintain these things. When you are that guy that
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Speaker 4: goes to the gym and works out, and you know,
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Speaker 4: runs multi miles a week, and you're in good shape,
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Speaker 4: and you've got big muscles, you've got the broad back
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Speaker 4: and the big shoulders, and you're walking down the street
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Speaker 4: and a little old woman's getting mugged. Everybody's looking at
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Speaker 4: you to stop it. They're not looking at the woman
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Speaker 4: next to you. Nobody's saying, Karen, quick, come help. They're
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Speaker 4: robbing have you Ahita, No, they're looking at you. They're like,
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Speaker 4: come on, big John staid, let's go because what big
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Speaker 4: for nothing? Right now, I'm not saying you are. That's
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Speaker 4: the United States. Sometimes you got a flex. Now in
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Speaker 4: the Middle East, we've been able to use Israel to
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Speaker 4: do our dirty work, so to speak, right to do
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Speaker 4: some of the heavy lifting, some of the bombing, some
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Speaker 4: of the intel maintaining control because there was a shared
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Speaker 4: mutual interest their existence and our influence. But now we're involved,
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Speaker 4: and now we have to end. How did I get
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Speaker 4: to the conflict in the Middle East from defunding the police?
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Speaker 4: That's quite eloquent. I won't break my own arm patting
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Speaker 4: myself on the back, but I am going to say
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Speaker 4: and that so many of our issues today are interrelated.
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Speaker 4: Just like I made that connection, we can make so
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Speaker 4: many others. Because ultimately, you know, you can say it's
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Speaker 4: about left versus right, or right versus wrong, but you
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Speaker 4: can group together almost all of the issues of the
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Speaker 4: day and truly pick a side, because a lot of
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Speaker 4: them land on I stand on logic, and for the left,
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Speaker 4: they land on I stand on my emotions, and that's
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Speaker 4: where the fundamental divide is, and I try to bridge
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Speaker 4: that divide every day. Anyway. I always leave you with
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Speaker 4: a thought, and my thought is the same. If you
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Speaker 4: stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything. And the only
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Speaker 4: thing necessary for evil to triumph is for you to
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Speaker 4: do absolutely nothing. So do something, make something happen, make
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Speaker 4: a difference, a right, like Gandhi said, be the change
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Speaker 4: you want to see in the world. I start approximon
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Speaker 4: until the next time. America, take care, good night, and
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Speaker 4: God bless you. I'm Rich Valdees and this is America.
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Speaker 5: This is America.
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