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2093 - BONUS Interview with Paula of 90 Day Fiance (s12) · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. This is a bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: you guys. I've been loving this season of ninety de Fiance,
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Speaker 1: season twelve. It is so good. This past week was great.
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Speaker 1: This next week looks to be amazing as well. So
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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to say I have an interview today
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Speaker 1: with Paula of Paula and Thomas. Welcome to the show, Paula.
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Speaker 2: Welcome, Mary Pain. I'm very happy to be here.
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Speaker 1: Your hair has gotten longer, I think since we've seen
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Speaker 1: you on the show.
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Speaker 2: It is. It is a little bit longer, and yeahs
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Speaker 2: I'd like you to have longer hair, so I'm trying
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Speaker 2: to keep it longer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks great, well, yeah, I do. It's pretty. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's a good color. It's a good color.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I need to know from what we saw
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Speaker 1: on the show, you met Thomas because you guys were
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Speaker 1: playing volleyball in like the La Long Beach area. You
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Speaker 1: were listening, Okay, So.
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Speaker 2: I was visiting in Mosa Beach.
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Speaker 1: Okay beach. Yes, So if you were in town visiting
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Speaker 1: and then you decide to date, how did you find
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Speaker 1: your way onto ninety eight Beyance? How did you get
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Speaker 1: on the show.
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Speaker 2: Because everybody since I started dating him, since I started
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Speaker 2: to date Thomas, everybody always say, you guys should do
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Speaker 2: none deficiency, you should do no defense and I in
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Speaker 2: that time I never heard about because in Brazil, I
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Speaker 2: was like, I'm very busy working and for TV, like
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Speaker 2: it's rare now I have, but in that time, I
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Speaker 2: was very busy growing my business and I was like,
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Speaker 2: what is this? And then I started doing some research
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Speaker 2: and I say that was the biggest reality show on
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Speaker 2: the United States, and I was like, wow, that's huge.
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Speaker 2: But people say that over and over again, only like
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Speaker 2: just for me and for him, like as well all
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Speaker 2: the time, and then we decided to sign up.
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Speaker 1: Amazing. I mean, I think it's such an interesting story
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Speaker 1: when people meet very organically, like you had a common
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Speaker 1: interest playing volleyball on the beach. Yeah, okay, So tell
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Speaker 1: me about your career in Brazil because you were you
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Speaker 1: said you were you had a piercing a piercing shop,
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Speaker 1: So explain all about that please. I'm dying to that.
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Speaker 2: I created the first piercing branch shop in Brazil. So
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Speaker 2: it's not just a piercing studio, it's a jury shop.
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Speaker 2: Like it's more fancy luxury because in Brazil, piercing was
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Speaker 2: something very niche, like about uh tribes like like Rocker.
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Speaker 1: Yes, dark Key.
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Speaker 2: And then I saw one opportunity to put my personality
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Speaker 2: on the business and I create the first brand of
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Speaker 2: luxury piercing shop. So today we are way more than
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Speaker 2: a piercing studio. A piercing studio the person goals to
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Speaker 2: just piercing their body. We are personal piercer, which means
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Speaker 2: like we do personalize it projects. And I learned all
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Speaker 2: this because I started working with celebrities in Brazil and
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Speaker 2: they was very specific and I was like, okay, so
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Speaker 2: the same way there's a personal stylist, personal shopper, personal trainer,
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Speaker 2: why not a personal piercer. Then I developed my niche
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Speaker 2: all around this. It was very hard because in Brazil
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Speaker 2: everyone was against it is a business that is dominated
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Speaker 2: was dominated by manure man, you know, and I got
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Speaker 2: lots of haters, a lot, but I grow very fast.
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Speaker 2: So in six months, I bought a house, car, I
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Speaker 2: had money to travel. It was a magical thing that
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Speaker 2: happens to me. And today our targets it's woman, but
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Speaker 2: not because they want to pierce their body and they
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Speaker 2: want to look radical. No, it's only luxury womans that
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Speaker 2: they want to increase their appearance. They want to have
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Speaker 2: the only ear is styling. So it's not body piercing,
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Speaker 2: it's ear. It's styly piercing. And uh, we do projects
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Speaker 2: that match with the person personalities and healing process. This
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Speaker 2: never had in the market in all over the world.
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Speaker 2: So I'm the first one that's doing this. And also
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Speaker 2: I'm writing a book about this. Yeah, so so will
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Speaker 2: be Yeah that's cool.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my Dag has a lot of piercings on
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Speaker 1: her ears and stuff, and she has something recently that
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Speaker 1: I also recently saw when I was on a Virgin
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Speaker 1: cruise and they had like a piercing tattoo studio there
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Speaker 1: and I saw people coming in and my daughter just
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Speaker 1: got it under your ears and it's called like fairy
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Speaker 1: bites or something, and it's three little tiny ones and
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Speaker 1: like a little star formation, like a little tiny triangle formation,
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Speaker 1: like tiny tiny It's very cute.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it is. I created one technique Australian piercings, three
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Speaker 2: little diamonds on the cardilage right here, so if I
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Speaker 2: can show.
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Speaker 1: You, yes, and uh, this three little one here, Yes cute.
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Speaker 2: I traded market then in Brazil and become viral. So
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Speaker 2: these guys was responsible like for maybe half of my
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Speaker 2: career because piercing in that time the symbol of rebel
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Speaker 2: and being more crazy can And then I came with
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Speaker 2: something super tiny, feminine and delicate. And this like the
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Speaker 2: first day that I launched this. In the day after,
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Speaker 2: I got almost one thousand messages on my what's up.
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Speaker 2: People was asking like I want to do?
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Speaker 1: I want to do?
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Speaker 2: And then all the new piercing era started because I
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Speaker 2: was like, okay, I have a mission here. I worked
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Speaker 2: with piercing since two thousand and three, so more than
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Speaker 2: twenty years a go. Yeah, I failed more than ten
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Speaker 2: business in Brazil, piercing business, and I insisted every business
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Speaker 2: I was insisting, and I was like, there's something wrong
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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna found what, like what can I do?
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Speaker 2: So I used my knowledge as a like accessory designer
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Speaker 2: and I combined piercing with with like with a sux
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Speaker 2: serry sorry my English with a sexer designer. So I
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Speaker 2: started to create visuals that it was more feminine, more personalized,
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Speaker 2: more delicate, and because woman wants to get piercing, but
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Speaker 2: they don't look like younger or crazy, or they don't
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Speaker 2: want to impose one personality that doesn't match with their work.
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Speaker 2: They are lawyers, they are doctors, they are woman with kids.
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Speaker 2: They just want to look pretty and right. Yeah, and
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Speaker 2: then I created the solution not only piercing, but cleaning,
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Speaker 2: maintaining and like everything. So it's it's very good, y'all.
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Speaker 1: off and let me know how you like. Well, okay,
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Speaker 1: so you have this very successful business over there and
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Speaker 1: you decide to move to the United States. Now, what's
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Speaker 1: that been like? So I assume you're still running this business,
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Speaker 1: but you're with Thomas in the United States, Like, that
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Speaker 1: must have been a very hard decision.
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Speaker 2: It was a very hard decision. But I'm very ambitious
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Speaker 2: in a good way. I am actually opening my second
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Speaker 2: business in Brazil, and I'm looking for business partners to
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Speaker 2: open my franchise model. I had this vision and I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna do the same in the United States because I
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Speaker 2: think in my business, my business model helps women. They
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Speaker 2: do doctor appointments, they need, they do like like events
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Speaker 2: like wedding and all social things. Then they need a
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Speaker 2: personal percy like it is more than styling once in
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Speaker 2: a while, they need the like could they go to
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Speaker 2: the hairstylist or nil or nail designer. So I think
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Speaker 2: I will help lots of women.
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Speaker 1: That's that's cool. So are you trying to open that
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Speaker 1: there in California?
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Speaker 2: I yes, I am, Yes, I love that.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be very successful. Okay, now tell
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Speaker 1: me about the miniatures, because this has gotten a lot
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Speaker 1: of attention, and with Thomas's sort of super minimalistic style,
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Speaker 1: and then you're coming in with all your little miniatures,
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Speaker 1: which I'd say is like maximalistic. I just said he
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Speaker 1: should give you just one little corner shelving unit and
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Speaker 1: you could put all your things in there and then
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Speaker 1: all your stuff contained. So are you do you have
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Speaker 1: your miniatures in the States, Because I really I want
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Speaker 1: that for you, because I love the little minish my unaitures.
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Speaker 2: They are more than just cute things. They are tools
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Speaker 2: for manifestation. Yes, well, everyone that I had like one another.
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Speaker 2: It's like only for decorations, but most of them, I
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Speaker 2: use it for a tool that helps me to manifest
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Speaker 2: my reality. And they really works. They really work. And
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Speaker 2: uh Thomas, uh, he doesn't want it because he thought
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Speaker 2: that was silly. And it was very hard for me
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Speaker 2: to collect them in the United States because the house
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Speaker 2: was so empty that I don't have any place to
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Speaker 2: put them. So yes, because I need to see them
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Speaker 2: every day and I need to to interact with them,
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Speaker 2: and I and like there was all in a box
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Speaker 2: and it was kind of messing with my process because
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Speaker 2: I need to to see them. So I have one
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Speaker 2: here like right now.
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Speaker 1: That's it. It's a little teacup.
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Speaker 2: It is just for us talking right now. So I
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Speaker 2: am manifesting a very good talk and uh that I
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Speaker 2: can express myself good because you know, English is not
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Speaker 2: my first language. So this is like a way that
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Speaker 2: I'm manifesting a good conversation and people understand me and
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Speaker 2: my point.
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Speaker 1: But that to me means that you're gonna spell the tea.
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Speaker 1: That's what that means to me. You're gonna spell the tea.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me everything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, maybe I can do it. I can
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Speaker 2: just throw out yeah, so cute. So Thomas doesn't he
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Speaker 2: doesn't accept too well because he thought that was silly.
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Speaker 2: But it is effect.
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Speaker 1: I think it is effective. I'll tell you that. My
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Speaker 1: listeners know. For years I said I always wanted to
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Speaker 1: have a beach house because we live here in Virginia
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Speaker 1: and there's no beach nearby, but we go to a
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Speaker 1: certain beach in North Carolina that I loved, loved it
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Speaker 1: for twenty years. So about maybe five years ago, instead
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Speaker 1: of saying I hope one day I have a beach house,
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Speaker 1: I started saying I will have a beach house. And
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Speaker 1: when I have my beach house, and guess what, last
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Speaker 1: year we got a beach house. You have to really
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Speaker 1: think about it, you have to really in my mind,
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Speaker 1: it really works. You just have to really put your
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Speaker 1: mind to it.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: It's not just because it came to me and somebody.
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Speaker 2: Gave it to me. I mean, we bought it manifested, but.
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Speaker 1: I manifested like I know it's going to happen for
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Speaker 1: me and I just have to talk it into existence.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly the process that I do. I am
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Speaker 2: manifesting so many things at the same time that the miniatures,
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Speaker 2: and not only the miniatures. I have cell phone live
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Speaker 2: screen protection with my vision board, and I have my
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Speaker 2: manifesting routine that I do every day. So it really
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Speaker 2: works and fast, really fest So for you have an idea,
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Speaker 2: there was a celebrity in Brazil and I started to
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Speaker 2: think about her manifest and do her ear styling. One
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Speaker 2: week after she messaged me.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's cool. Now would we know who that is?
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Speaker 2: It's a TV singer. She's called Pablo Guitar. Okay, okay,
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Speaker 2: And does she message me and say, hey, I want
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Speaker 2: to do my ear styling because I saw your your
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Speaker 2: Instagram it's very beautiful. One week after see it is
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Speaker 2: very fast. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I have a question. Can you get Thomas like a
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Speaker 1: tiny perfume bottle and tell him you're manifesting him, not
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Speaker 1: to pretend he's allergic to perfume.
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Speaker 2: Actually, I bought miniature of perfume. I bought well like
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Speaker 2: last year and filming. I was trying because perfume for
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Speaker 2: me is something so important. I love perfume, Like in
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Speaker 2: my apartment, I have dozens of and the fact that
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Speaker 2: Thomas attacked my habits so bad, and I was trying
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Speaker 2: to found every solution that I could. So I bought
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Speaker 2: a tiny perfume miniature and I put it on the
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Speaker 2: like on the restroom. So I put the training me
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Speaker 2: and him to see a tiny bottle and get used
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Speaker 2: it to like I could bring you one real one.
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Speaker 1: Okay, has he found something that he can tolerate that
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Speaker 1: you also like.
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Speaker 2: He tolerates some things that is not chemistry, So even
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Speaker 2: for cleaning products are perfume or anything needs to be
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Speaker 2: natural vegan, no chemistry, supernatural, which just makes sense. My
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Speaker 2: brother have the same issue.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: When we was filming, my brother was super sick because
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Speaker 2: of the carpet. Oh, he was so sick because he
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Speaker 2: was no voice, and there was wondering to rent one
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Speaker 2: like hotel or something. But I wanted to be with
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Speaker 2: my like my family together, and I said, please don't
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Speaker 2: go and stay here. He was dying, but he was
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Speaker 2: in the apartment because of me, my brother. So I
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Speaker 2: kind of understand Thomas, but he's not open. He was
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Speaker 2: not open to looking for solutions because my brother is
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Speaker 2: also super allergic. But we can live with him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's not.
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Speaker 2: Dictator and period No, and he's a dictator. He is
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Speaker 2: like no, no conversation, period.
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Speaker 1: He's very dramatic. He's very dramatic about the perfume.
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Speaker 2: Super super He's dramatic about everything.
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Speaker 1: He's what is he? Somebody told me he is a
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Speaker 1: aerospace engineer. What is his career?
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Speaker 2: He's an aerospace engineer and he works with computers, so
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Speaker 2: he's a like engineer for computer and he builds projects
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Speaker 2: for biggie companies. He's a super smart guy. And uh,
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Speaker 2: he lives in another world that it's hard to access.
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Speaker 2: And sometimes I ask him myself, Hi, I I accessed
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Speaker 2: him because before me, he only had one girlfriend. He
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Speaker 2: never introduced any girl to his family, he never lived
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Speaker 2: with someone, he never nothing. So me, in a certain way,
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Speaker 2: I could. I had access to a very weird person,
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Speaker 2: which makes which makes me worry because we attracted who
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Speaker 2: who we are are are are things that we need
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Speaker 2: to feel ourselves of. It is then that makes made
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Speaker 2: me think a lot like what the universe is trying
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Speaker 2: to tell me with this relationship.
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Speaker 1: With very opposite you're very opposite.
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Speaker 2: Complimentary, in a in a in a seeking way.
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Speaker 1: You commentary, Yes, that's nicer. Yes, the world wants to know.
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Speaker 1: The world wants to know if you've gotten a dresser
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Speaker 1: or if your underwear isn't bend in the closet.
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Speaker 2: I got a dresser the other space, which is bigger,
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Speaker 2: and I could put all my clothes. But it's it's
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Speaker 2: so little comparing with the one that I have in Brazil.
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Speaker 2: But it was a beginning. So I got a bigger
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Speaker 2: dresser and I could see all my stuff, very organized it.
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Speaker 2: I am very methodic, so I need to see my
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Speaker 2: clothes and everything. And it was very good. It was
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Speaker 2: a piece of of of peace. Yes, my mind was
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Speaker 2: freaking so much watching the show back, I feel so
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Speaker 2: bad for myself because I was so vulnerable. I was neil.
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Speaker 2: My English wasn't that good? Not this is amazing today,
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Speaker 2: but it's better. And I was so patient. I was like,
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Speaker 2: why am I so patient? Am I giving so much?
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Speaker 2: I was trying to be evolved being and trying to
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Speaker 2: do not lower my highest my voice. I was trying
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Speaker 2: to be a person, you know, very calm. But with
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Speaker 2: some people we find a way of communication, and that
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Speaker 2: is not with Thomas at all. You don't respect as
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Speaker 2: much as I try to becolm and evolve and very
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Speaker 2: amazing and simpl he sit over me.
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Speaker 1: So it's crazy because his point was, well, when you
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Speaker 1: go on vacation, you can live out of a suitcase,
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Speaker 1: but you're not on vacate, you've moved there. So since
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Speaker 1: you've moved there, I think that your point was so
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Speaker 1: valid and could go for anybody on this show, which
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Speaker 1: is I just expect what I had at my house.
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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting more. Just what I had at my
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Speaker 1: house was a closet, dresser and a couch, So I
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Speaker 1: need these things at my new house. I'm not expecting more.
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Speaker 1: I just need to say yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But was a surprise for me because lots of shades
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Speaker 2: of his personality I never knew because we was dating
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Speaker 2: long distance for so many years and it doesn't knew
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Speaker 2: these shades. And then when I saw, I was in shock,
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Speaker 2: and I ended off all their relationship, like with other boyfriends,
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Speaker 2: in a very dramatic way, because as I start to
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Speaker 2: be crazy and like yelling, you know, and I try
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Speaker 2: to be as much peaceful as I could. But it
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Speaker 2: was really hard because he tested me in all way possible.
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Speaker 2: And it is not because I saw some people say
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Speaker 2: online like oh she have money, she is lying because
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Speaker 2: she is not poor. It is not because of that,
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Speaker 2: because when you move to a place and you have
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Speaker 2: someone else, you need to do together. Yes, so I
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Speaker 2: think it is not worth I bring my money from Brazil,
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Speaker 2: which is very little. If I convert my current money
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Speaker 2: to us, it's it is nothing and all my money
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Speaker 2: right now, I am using to invest and grow my business.
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Speaker 2: So I just bought a new room.
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Speaker 1: Very big.
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Speaker 2: We are building. It is very expensive because it's like
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Speaker 2: it is luxury and I don't have money.
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Speaker 1: To like an address addresser is not very by the way,
23:01
Speaker 1: you can get a cute dresser for not much.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, before we start to date, he had some good
23:11
Speaker 2: plans like oh uh, we're gonna leave, You're gonna build
23:17
Speaker 2: it our life with me, You're gonna do everything beautiful,
23:20
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then when I went to the US,
23:24
Speaker 2: there was nothing, and I was patient with nothing, but
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Speaker 2: it was like when what is next?
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Speaker 1: Patient about two days with nowhere to put my clothes? Okay,
23:35
Speaker 1: but I have a question about that apartment. So we
23:39
Speaker 1: all agree that the table is ridiculous and you need it.
23:42
Speaker 1: It's not hard also to buy. You could get all
23:44
Speaker 1: these things at Target or Costco. But if the money
23:47
Speaker 1: is the issue. But is this apartment one bedroom and
23:50
Speaker 1: he has a bed in the bedroom and a bed
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Speaker 1: in the living room.
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Speaker 2: No, his apartment is two bedrooms. So there's a bedroom
24:00
Speaker 2: and it's actually it's a bedroom, and then there's a
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Speaker 2: living room that he turns into another bedroom because he
24:08
Speaker 2: has a he had a bed. Then he turns into
24:13
Speaker 2: a couch.
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Speaker 1: No, it's a bed. There's a difference. You need a couch.
24:18
Speaker 1: It's so funny on this season too with Katie and Josh,
24:21
Speaker 1: and it's it's similar. But all he's asking for is
24:24
Speaker 1: a place to sit, and she's like, we can sit
24:27
Speaker 1: on the floor. He's like, my back hurts. We're in
24:29
Speaker 1: a twin bed. All I'm asking for is a couch.
24:32
Speaker 1: And every time we see Josh and he's in that
24:35
Speaker 1: one office chair where like he has one chair, and
24:39
Speaker 1: I was like, it's like, Paula, all she wants is
24:41
Speaker 1: a couch. And I love how You're like, here's the
24:43
Speaker 1: tiny couch. We're manifesting it, we're looking at it. We're
24:46
Speaker 1: going to get a couch. So I hope as the
24:48
Speaker 1: season goes, you get to decorate this apartment and get
24:52
Speaker 1: a couch, yes, instead of a bed.
24:56
Speaker 2: I try my best to show in a very polite
25:00
Speaker 2: to it the thing that I wanted. But Thomas, he
25:05
Speaker 2: has a very straight mind. I kind of understand why
25:10
Speaker 2: his parents got divorce, his dad and his that mom
25:15
Speaker 2: lives in a trailer, like on a trailer so the
25:19
Speaker 2: way because I like to think to see things from
25:22
Speaker 2: behind the way that he do with his life. He
25:26
Speaker 2: doesn't want to have anything because it's easy to move on.
25:32
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
25:33
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to attach. And it's weird because I
25:37
Speaker 2: told him many times say, hey, I can't live in
25:41
Speaker 2: a place that I that I don't feel good. I
25:45
Speaker 2: can't my apartment. It's it is beautiful, and I want
25:49
Speaker 2: to the same place that I feel comfortable that I
25:51
Speaker 2: look at it like oh my place, and I like it,
25:54
Speaker 2: and I don't feel happy here. I try it, I
25:58
Speaker 2: really try.
25:59
Speaker 1: That's very interesting because we do see a couple of
26:02
Speaker 1: weeks ago we saw with his dad and his stepmom,
26:05
Speaker 1: and then I know on a coming episode. We've seen
26:08
Speaker 1: some previews where you're going to be talking to his stepmom,
26:12
Speaker 1: and I think that thing that was very interesting how
26:15
Speaker 1: the stepmom, you know, with editing and production, it comes
26:19
Speaker 1: across like she's really harsh, but I think it seems
26:23
Speaker 1: that she was really hurt because she was so close
26:26
Speaker 1: to Thomas. And then he's going back to his biological mom,
26:30
Speaker 1: who seems, for all intents and purposes, left him as
26:32
Speaker 1: a child, which is shocking and now but you can't
26:36
Speaker 1: blame him for, as an adult trying to make a
26:38
Speaker 1: connection with her. But you can also see the side
26:41
Speaker 1: of the stepmother who's very hurt. So is that that's
26:45
Speaker 1: going to play out with how she was mad at
26:47
Speaker 1: you and she explains to you, did you know this
26:51
Speaker 1: situation with his mother and his stepmother? Did you know
26:53
Speaker 1: how deep it was?
26:56
Speaker 2: It doesn't knew because he spoke very little about his
27:01
Speaker 2: parents and his family at all. And the first two
27:05
Speaker 2: years that I was dating him, I thought that he
27:08
Speaker 2: was a skin because I knew nobody from his side,
27:12
Speaker 2: and I was like, I need to see something. And
27:15
Speaker 2: then he introduced me his auntie and then his sister,
27:19
Speaker 2: and then I started to trust. But it was very
27:22
Speaker 2: weird and the relationship that he has with his stepmom
27:29
Speaker 2: answered many things about his personality today that builds him. Yeah,
27:37
Speaker 2: which is I like about personal self like evolving. It's
27:42
Speaker 2: because you can go back there and fix things as
27:46
Speaker 2: a mature person and grew up in your life. Because life,
27:50
Speaker 2: it is not being victim of a situation. His parents
27:53
Speaker 2: got the fought on the court for thirty five times
27:58
Speaker 2: when he was a kid.
28:00
Speaker 1: That's a lot for a kid.
28:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that don't but that. I try to tell
28:06
Speaker 2: him that that doesn't define him. So he should use
28:11
Speaker 2: that to grow and be very voted and maybe inspire
28:15
Speaker 2: other young guys, you know. But he he wants to
28:20
Speaker 2: be in a state that he's a victim, that he
28:24
Speaker 2: doesn't want any because it's better. He want a very
28:28
Speaker 2: empty place because if if he loses his job, it
28:32
Speaker 2: is easy to move on. So he also he always
28:36
Speaker 2: manifests in bad things. If I lose my job, if
28:39
Speaker 2: I don't need where to go, if I blah blah blah,
28:42
Speaker 2: and I am the positive, I am manifesting more like
28:46
Speaker 2: one more place in Brazil, yes, in the West, one
28:51
Speaker 2: place in Europe. I am always you know, working, And
28:55
Speaker 2: he's thinking about the worst.
28:57
Speaker 1: That bothers me a lot see like you could really
29:00
Speaker 1: help him though, because he's coming from a negative face
29:04
Speaker 1: and he's coming from childhood trauma of I don't want
29:07
Speaker 1: to have a lot of things in case I have
29:09
Speaker 1: to move quickly, and you're coming from a pace of like, no,
29:12
Speaker 1: let's settle and let's manifest that everything will continue to
29:16
Speaker 1: go well, and you won't. You will keep your job,
29:19
Speaker 1: you will get a better job, You'll continue to go up.
29:21
Speaker 1: And I that's very interesting. And I think the dynamic
29:25
Speaker 1: with his stepmom and his dad and what we're going
29:28
Speaker 1: to see about her explaining to you about the mother
29:31
Speaker 1: is fascinating. It's very sad to think that that happened
29:35
Speaker 1: to him, But like you said, now they're adults and
29:37
Speaker 1: maybe he can on his little part, he can fix it.
29:42
Speaker 1: That's you guys are so it's so interesting how opposite
29:46
Speaker 1: you are. But I like how you said, but you
29:48
Speaker 1: can also be complementary and help each other.
29:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I help more than he helped me.
29:57
Speaker 1: I think.
29:57
Speaker 2: So that's trying to be nice, yes, And the thing
30:02
Speaker 2: is between his parents, It is very hard, especially with
30:06
Speaker 2: his mom. He tried to connect it to his mom
30:08
Speaker 2: all during the filming for She Yeah, up, and filming,
30:13
Speaker 2: and she never wanted. That makes him very upset. He doesn't.
30:17
Speaker 2: They don't talk like for a while.
30:21
Speaker 1: Because and it's hard to just sort of like live
30:24
Speaker 1: in the moment of like let me be grateful for
30:27
Speaker 1: just my father and my stepmother and let that part
30:30
Speaker 1: of my life go. It's hard, I think, especially if
30:32
Speaker 1: that's your if you're your parent. Yeah, it's that's rough.
30:36
Speaker 1: Now tell me about your family in Brazil.
30:39
Speaker 2: My family is super especial. We are very attached. Of course,
30:43
Speaker 2: we have problems, of course, but we are here to evolve.
30:47
Speaker 2: So I came to from a very poor family. We
30:53
Speaker 2: live it in a very poor place in Brazil. I
30:56
Speaker 2: had nothing besides my brain to think and in my
31:00
Speaker 2: in my future. And my mom she also had a
31:03
Speaker 2: vision for me and my siblings, and she even when
31:06
Speaker 2: we was kids kids, she always put us to do
31:11
Speaker 2: things school. So we did the swimming classes, which in
31:15
Speaker 2: that time for for like those kids was something very huge.
31:20
Speaker 2: But she was always and and she put us in
31:23
Speaker 2: a computer classes and uh so she was helping us
31:26
Speaker 2: to evolve as a as a person. And uh and
31:31
Speaker 2: my siblings we are winners in all uh like aspectus
31:36
Speaker 2: of life. We we we are doing our best. So
31:41
Speaker 2: like we have our businesses. Uh, our goals are I
31:46
Speaker 2: don't know how in English, but we are very good.
31:49
Speaker 2: And uh we came from nothing, so that that that
31:54
Speaker 2: makes me feel very resilient because when I hear people say, oh,
31:58
Speaker 2: I have nothing, I'm poor, blah blah blah. I came
32:02
Speaker 2: from nothing and I build everything, so I do some people.
32:07
Speaker 2: I need to have more patient with people when they
32:09
Speaker 2: say that they are in a very sensitive way. That's
32:13
Speaker 2: why Universe send me Thomas to give me the opportunity
32:20
Speaker 2: of me work with my patient really yeah, yes, and
32:25
Speaker 2: my empathy for sure.
32:28
Speaker 1: Well, I think that you are so interesting and so
32:31
Speaker 1: inspirational and I'm really like looking forward to seeing how
32:34
Speaker 1: this all plays out on the show. But tell everybody
32:36
Speaker 1: that's listening how they can find out about your business
32:39
Speaker 1: and where to follow you, because it sounds fascinating your business.
32:42
Speaker 1: So tell everybody where we can follow you and find
32:44
Speaker 1: out about your business.
32:46
Speaker 2: Sure, my Instagram is open. I'm trying to make content
32:50
Speaker 2: in English and in Portuguese.
32:52
Speaker 1: Okay, it is a mix.
32:54
Speaker 2: And also my TikTok they both are just Paulina nick
33:00
Speaker 2: name me in Portuguese, which means little Paula, so it
33:05
Speaker 2: is very hard to spell in English, so people call
33:07
Speaker 2: me in Brazil Paulina, but it's just Paulina and uh.
33:14
Speaker 2: You can also found me on my jurist studio called
33:20
Speaker 2: Piercing Joya and uh I'll be in the US and
33:26
Speaker 2: uh I'll be doing uh very beautiful ear stylist like
33:33
Speaker 2: not me. I want to training people. I want to
33:35
Speaker 2: develop my business, so I want to just be the
33:38
Speaker 2: Peerson business owner and I want to training people. Tell
33:42
Speaker 2: me that I do, like with my employees in Brazil.
33:45
Speaker 2: So that's what I do, and I also want I am.
33:48
Speaker 2: I am kind of receiving some message from people and
33:53
Speaker 2: they say that I inspire them and they want to
33:56
Speaker 2: learn more about manifestation and everything. I never thinking about
34:02
Speaker 2: that in a way that I could teach other people.
34:04
Speaker 2: But now I am start to study and to put
34:08
Speaker 2: in words all the methods that I use and worked
34:13
Speaker 2: with me. Yes, and how you teach other people.
34:16
Speaker 1: Soon you should show it on your TikTok, like you
34:19
Speaker 1: showed the little teacup. That's an example, and you're saying
34:21
Speaker 1: that you put the little perfume in the bathroom, so
34:24
Speaker 1: you see it, and he sees it and it gets
34:26
Speaker 1: into your I think it's fascinating. I think you should
34:29
Speaker 1: do that on your TikTok. I think you would get
34:31
Speaker 1: a lot of people that were interested.
34:33
Speaker 2: Yeah.
34:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very nice to meet you. And I can't
34:37
Speaker 1: wait to watch the rest of the season. And I
34:39
Speaker 1: can't wait to see the tell all and I love
34:42
Speaker 1: the tell all when everybody gets to meet, and I
34:44
Speaker 1: think that's always interesting too. I don't want anybody to fight,
34:47
Speaker 1: but I like to see when everybody gets to have
34:49
Speaker 1: opinions on other people's stories.
34:51
Speaker 2: You know. Yes, it is a pleasure being on the show.
34:56
Speaker 2: I never watched before, and I think was good because
35:02
Speaker 2: I came into that myself, all my vulnerabilities, like everything
35:11
Speaker 2: was one hundred percent me and I honestly watched myself
35:15
Speaker 2: there and I and I feel stronger now, I feel
35:18
Speaker 2: more resilient. So it was a pleasure to be part
35:22
Speaker 2: of that. And what's the dream? I also manifested be
35:25
Speaker 2: in any defiancy, so so what's the dream that became true? Yeah,
35:29
Speaker 2: it's very fun.
35:31
Speaker 1: Well, thank you again, and everybody go follow Paulina and
35:34
Speaker 1: I will let like I want, I will not let
35:37
Speaker 1: I will link I will link all of her socials
35:40
Speaker 1: here on this interview, so you can go and follow her,
35:43
Speaker 1: follow her and see all her tiny things and all
35:45
Speaker 1: her menifectations.
35:46
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Mary pay Bye bye,