Latest / Cumberland Trace Church of Christ (Formerly Lehman Ave Church of Christ) / Equipped 2026: Ladies: "Looking Up with Kathy and Carla" by Kathy Pollard and Carla Moore
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- 0:00We really are grateful that you're all here.
- 0:08We are recording an episode of our podcast, Looking Up, and we thank you for joining us
- 0:12while we do that.
- 0:13To those who are listening in, this is a podcast for Christian women, and it's our objective
- 0:20– everybody wave, say hi – it is our prayer that with each episode we just remind everybody
- 0:28to keep looking up no matter what's going on in the world around us.
- 0:31Everything's going to be okay because God's in His heaven and all's right with the world.
- 0:36My name is Kathy Pollard and with me is Carla Moore and we're your hosts.
- 0:41And today, before we chit-chat very briefly, we are going to be talking about things that
- 0:48we find interesting in the book of Genesis.
- 0:50So for everybody listening in, we are at the Cumberland Choice Church of Christ equipped
- 0:55workshop and we have a bunch of beautiful ladies here with us.
- 0:59The theme of the workshop is a study of the book of Genesis and so we each picked one
- 1:04thing that we find…
- 1:05What?
- 1:06You picked three?
- 1:07That's not what we said.
- 1:08Quick three.
- 1:09We're going to talk about a few things that we find interesting in the book of Genesis.
- 1:22So before we get into that, I do want to give a shout-out to the person who came the
- 1:28farthest.
- 1:29Jennifer Eskew came all the way from Alaska just to hear us.
- 1:40We appreciate you coming all this way to be at the equipped workshop and to all of you.
- 1:47So one or two things interesting that we can chit-chat about.
- 1:50We're on a time constraint, which we're not used to.
- 1:53I don't really appreciate it at all, but what's up with you?
- 1:58Well I can't believe I forgot to tell you this last week.
- 2:00Can you all hear us back there, by the way, in the back?
- 2:04She said we didn't need it, but you can hear us back there, sort of, we'll try to
- 2:08talk loud.
- 2:09So I can't believe I forgot to tell you last week that I'm practically famous because
- 2:14I know Victor Glover.
- 2:16Do you all know Victor Glover?
- 2:19Did you watch the Artemis?
- 2:22No, I met him one time, but it was so cool because he's a member of the church.
- 2:30I think probably everybody here knows that, but he was a member at Lake City Church of
- 2:40Christ, and we did a marriage seminar there about 15 years ago, and it was so cool because
- 2:44then he knew he was going to be going into space.
- 2:47I don't think he knew which mission it was, but it was so cool to see him later on being
- 2:52interviewed.
- 2:53He was just, I thought he was a great representative for God, but no, I'm not famous because of
- 3:01him.
- 3:02But you know, it's kind of cool to know somebody famous, and since I've talked to him for like
- 3:06maybe, I don't know, five minutes, 15 years ago, but I just thought it was really neat.
- 3:12I'm practically famous.
- 3:13See you there.
- 3:14See you there.
- 3:15You guys get to come in here and get a Looking Up flag bag, and you can get her autograph
- 3:22afterwards.
- 3:23I think I'll do it.
- 3:24Well, you think that's something.
- 3:25You know, last time we chatted, we were in Idaho, so we were there for a couple more
- 3:32days, and we're getting it back.
- 3:38Well, anyway, I forgot to tell you last week that we stayed at an Airbnb that had a full-size
- 3:49kitchen with all kinds of mugs, real coffee mugs, you know, that you can choose from,
- 3:54and the one that Neal chose to drink out of every single day was a Gilmore Girls mug.
- 3:59Yes, we wanted it together.
- 4:02John would have no idea.
- 4:06Yeah, so I thought that was really important and almost as exciting as what you just shared.
- 4:13I have exciting personal family news.
- 4:19Do I have daughters-in-law in this room?
- 4:23Yes.
- 4:24Can I?
- 4:25Let's get one of them.
- 4:28Are both of them, or you can bring us one?
- 4:31Okay.
- 4:32Okay, so Janelle is expecting, and they found out that they're having a boy.
- 4:37So we did learn this morning.
- 4:40Yes, and the name is really special, and I cried, and I'll probably cry again.
- 4:45And then also, Carl and Emily are also expecting in December.
- 4:50So we're going from five to seven this year.
- 4:55Y'all have zero to 60.
- 4:58We do.
- 5:00That's great.
- 5:01That's awesome.
- 5:02We're happy for y'all.
- 5:03Any other news before I want to get into ours?
- 5:05Let's not take any more time.
- 5:06Multiple topics.
- 5:07Yes, multiple.
- 5:08You go first.
- 5:09All right, I'll go first.
- 5:10Okay, so let me see the time.
- 5:11All right, what time should I switch over to you since you have three?
- 5:13Well, it's all related.
- 5:14Okay.
- 5:15Just do 16 minutes each.
- 5:16I chose, from Genesis, I love the idea that we were made to worship.
- 5:25And when you think about the first instance of somebody offering a sacrifice right out
- 5:30of the gate, of course, we have Cain and Abel, Abel's sacrifice being accepted by God, and
- 5:36the whole idea that he brought his very best in that sacrifice.
- 5:42But also, in Genesis 8, we have Noah's altar right after they were delivered from the flood,
- 5:51his praise to God and his thanksgiving.
- 5:54We have, in Genesis 22, and I love this one, do you remember God tells Abraham to sacrifice
- 6:01his son, and do you remember what Abraham says in the very beginning of that chapter?
- 6:06He says, y'all stay here.
- 6:08Well, not y'all.
- 6:11The lad and I will go yonder to worship, and then we will return to you.
- 6:17You know, that's the very first time the word worship is used in the Bible.
- 6:21And what a chapter, you know, for that to appear in.
- 6:24What a beautiful chapter.
- 6:26Well, in Isaiah 43, verses 20 and 21, God says that we were made to worship, and he
- 6:32talks about us being his people, his chosen, and that he made us to praise him.
- 6:39And so, when I was thinking about these instances of worship, and there are more, in the book
- 6:46of Genesis, but I read this really interesting thing that I never thought about before, and
- 6:53some scholars say that we have glimpses of it even before we read about Cain and Abel
- 6:59in Genesis chapter 4.
- 7:01And they explain that when the Bible says in chapter 2 of Genesis that God placed or
- 7:08put Adam in the garden, that that word put is not just your regular word for, you know,
- 7:16I'm putting something here.
- 7:18That it's a different word.
- 7:20There was another Hebrew word for the regular word, but the word placed or put, depending
- 7:24on your version, is the same word used when they would describe what they would put in
- 7:29the tabernacle for, you know, the sacrifices and the things that they would do.
- 7:35And that when God gave Adam the task, in chapter 2 verse 15, you know, it says that put him
- 7:42in the garden to work it and to keep it.
- 7:46And that those words are also the same language and words used when they describe what the
- 7:52Levitical priests would be doing in the tabernacle to work, to perform.
- 7:58Numbers chapter 4 verse 26.
- 8:02And, do you remember when the Bible says that God walked in the garden and Adam and Eve
- 8:09were hiding?
- 8:11They point out the fact that the fact that God walked in the garden wasn't the surprising
- 8:16part, it was Adam and Eve's reaction.
- 8:18You know, because something had changed.
- 8:21Because Leviticus 26, 12 says, I will walk among you and be your God.
- 8:27And we have multiple examples of these verses of God, you know, walking among his people.
- 8:32So, it was their reaction after the transgression that was so noteworthy.
- 8:38So, the idea is that God has always wanted to provide a way for us to meet with him.
- 8:46And, come into his presence.
- 8:53And, I think that really, you know, we see it all the way through.
- 8:57Adam and Eve transgress, he starts working on a way to make that possible again, to bring
- 9:01us back to him.
- 9:03And we have all these opportunities to come together, to meet with his people, to be in
- 9:08his presence because he loves us that much and wants to walk with his people.
- 9:13And, I feel like I'm preaching instead of chatting.
- 9:16Do you want to listen?
- 9:18Okay, so, there are some really interesting worship words used in the book of Genesis.
- 9:24And, I am no Hebrew scholar, but shakah is the one that means that physical act of bowing
- 9:32down really low.
- 9:34Abraham, in Genesis 18, 2, it says that he bows low to the ground.
- 9:41And, that's that word, shakah, a very worshipful posture.
- 9:46Can you spell that, shakah?
- 9:48If it was a transliteration.
- 9:51S-H-A-C-H-A-H, shakah.
- 9:56Alright?
- 9:58And then, this one probably sounds a little more familiar, hallel, from which we get the
- 10:02word hallelujah, which does not appear in Genesis, but appears often in the Psalms.
- 10:11And, a lot of those worshipful Psalms that use that word refer back to creation.
- 10:17So, that's how I'm tying it back into Genesis.
- 10:21And, that word means just to praise.
- 10:24And, it carries with it the idea of celebration.
- 10:27And, you can feel the burst and the emotion and the feeling in praising God.
- 10:34And then, the last one is yadah, Y-A-D-A-H.
- 10:40Yadah.
- 10:41And, this is Genesis 29, verse 35.
- 10:45And, here we have Leah.
- 10:47God has just blessed her with her fourth child.
- 10:50And, it's Judah.
- 10:52And, the Bible says, Leah gave birth to him.
- 10:54The Bible says, now I will yadah the Lord.
- 10:58And, that word means to throw out your hands in praise and thanks.
- 11:04So, you think about that posture.
- 11:06And, a lot of the Psalms refer to that too, right?
- 11:08I will lift up my hands to you.
- 11:10That is yadah.
- 11:12And, in fact, they name that baby Judah, which is Yehuda, which means praised.
- 11:21So, I thought that was really interesting.
- 11:23Psalm 63, verse 4, I will lift up my hands in your name.
- 11:27So, there's all of these worshipful words used throughout the book of Genesis.
- 11:34And, when we look at them, and we don't have time to look at every incident today,
- 11:40but when you look at each individual scenario or account,
- 11:43whether it's the actual act of some sort of sacrifice,
- 11:46whether it's a word used in the language, like what Leah said,
- 11:51the object of all of it is God.
- 11:55And, He's at the heart of it.
- 11:57And, He's at the center of it.
- 12:00And, I started thinking about how, you know, in the New Testament,
- 12:04we have that different word, proskuneo, to kiss toward or whatever.
- 12:11It's the New Testament word.
- 12:13And, you know how in the New Testament, we see a lot of this,
- 12:17not just worshiping God, but how we lift up each other.
- 12:22And, when we sing and praise, we're teaching and admonishing one another.
- 12:26In Hebrews 10, we come together to encourage and admonish one another to love and do good works.
- 12:32But, in Genesis and in the Old Testament, it's always God-centered.
- 12:39And, He's the object of our praise.
- 12:42And so, Revelation 4-11 really focuses on the heart of our worship being how we see God.
- 12:55And, you know, whatever comes to your mind, whatever comes to your heart,
- 12:59when you're thinking about worship and coming into His presence to praise Him,
- 13:03affects your worship.
- 13:05Your view of God affects your worship.
- 13:07And, I think that's one of the really fascinating things that we see throughout the study of Genesis.
- 13:12I'm pausing in case you want to say something.
- 13:14No.
- 13:15Okay.
- 13:17Do you remember when Jesus said,
- 13:20These people honor Me with their lips, but their, what?
- 13:24Their heart is far from Me.
- 13:26And, He goes on to say, teaching His doctrine, the commandments of men.
- 13:30And, He says that, He calls this,
- 13:32In vain do they worship Me.
- 13:35In vain is empty.
- 13:37And so, a heart far from God, then, would lead to empty worship.
- 13:44And, I'm sure, you know, if we're honest,
- 13:47there's probably been times for all of us when we've felt that way.
- 13:51You know, that we're just going through the motions.
- 13:55We just don't, we're not feeling it.
- 13:57You know, it's that kind of, I'm just here in body only, in presence only.
- 14:02But, my heart is not in it.
- 14:04And, I think there are some things that we don't do when we don't feel like doing it.
- 14:11You know, sometimes I just don't feel like washing the dishes.
- 14:15And, if I leave them there until the next morning, it's not great.
- 14:18But, it's not the end of the world.
- 14:20Sometimes, I don't feel like working out.
- 14:23Most always, I never feel like working out.
- 14:27And, in those things, you know, we understand from those little easy examples,
- 14:32that when we do the discipline of doing it, we're happier about it.
- 14:37You know, it's much nicer to come downstairs the next morning to a clean kitchen.
- 14:41You feel better if you actually do go through and do the workout.
- 14:45But, they're so insignificant.
- 14:47But, think about, is there a matter of discipline when it comes to bringing our heart to worship before God?
- 14:55Even when we don't feel like it.
- 14:58And, that's really what I wanted to kind of camp out on and for us to chat about.
- 15:04Jeremiah in Lamentations 3 verse 41 says,
- 15:09Let us lift up our hearts and our hands to God in heaven.
- 15:14And, I think that with that kind of heart posture, you know,
- 15:20preparing for it maybe the night before, the morning of,
- 15:23praying about it, whatever we need to do to accomplish this eagerness.
- 15:30That's what I hear in the text.
- 15:33Let us lift up our hearts and our hands and worship our God.
- 15:36And, I thought, what does that look like in worship?
- 15:39What is a heart?
- 15:40Jesus says that there are people whose hearts are far from him.
- 15:43And, that leads to empty worship.
- 15:45So, what does a heart close to God look like in worship?
- 15:49And, certainly anticipation.
- 15:52You know, we see in many of the Psalms, O come, let us worship.
- 15:57We're going to look at Psalm 95 here in a second.
- 15:59It looks like preparation.
- 16:02Think about Abraham in Genesis 22.
- 16:04He had to prepare to obey God in that sacrifice.
- 16:08And, it looks like adulation.
- 16:10And, I thought about David.
- 16:12All the singing that he did.
- 16:14And, all the admiring of God that he did.
- 16:17I lift up my hands towards your most holy place.
- 16:20David said that.
- 16:24But, there are times, I think, that we struggle.
- 16:29And, there are times that we just don't feel like it.
- 16:32We just don't feel like worship, worshiping God.
- 16:35And, I am going to let you talk for a second.
- 16:37Well, I was trying to look.
- 16:39Is it Ezra who prepared his heart to know God?
- 16:42And, was kind of wondering, too, if you had practical tips for preparing your heart for worship.
- 16:49Because, you know, if you have a fight on the way to worship when you're driving sometimes.
- 16:55I mean, that's never happened to me, but probably.
- 16:57I've had that.
- 16:59And, you know, then your heart is focused on what you've been fighting about.
- 17:04Or, trying to get the kids ready, or whatever it is.
- 17:07And, so, maybe, I don't know if you have some practical tips to prepare your heart.
- 17:11But, that might be something we can talk about in a group next week.
- 17:14Well, you know, this sounds really petty.
- 17:16But, so, Neal, you know, on those rare occasions that we get into a little tip on a Sunday morning.
- 17:23We have always sung in the car on the way to worship.
- 17:26And, we started that when our kids were little.
- 17:28And, just kind of kept up with it.
- 17:30I love that about y'all.
- 17:31Well, thanks.
- 17:33Because, sometimes, Sunday mornings can be a little, even without kids.
- 17:38And, you know, we're kind of, and then you get in the car and he wants to sing.
- 17:42And, I'm going, you know, I just kind of look out the window for a minute.
- 17:49And, like, give me a second, you know.
- 17:51And, in my mind, I'm going, you just want to sing.
- 17:55Because, you're going to have to get up there and preach.
- 17:57And, you want me to be smiling at you instead of scowling at you.
- 18:02So, it's the very human, physical side of us that just gets in the way.
- 18:08And, it's so easy to let that happen.
- 18:10And, I think this consciousness of, it's the Lord's day.
- 18:16It's not my day.
- 18:18It's not my day to win an argument.
- 18:20It's not my day to, you know, worry about what my husband's doing or not doing.
- 18:25It's the Lord's day.
- 18:27And, trying to discipline that kind of mindset as soon as you wake up in the morning.
- 18:32And, to pray about it.
- 18:35And, you know how they say, I don't know if you've heard this tip or if we've ever shared it on the podcast.
- 18:39But, if you're in a bad mood, you know, they said that if you physically lift up your chest.
- 18:44Right, everybody do that.
- 18:46If you physically lift up your heart, that it automatically gives you like a mental boost.
- 18:51Like, it automatically makes you kind of want to smile.
- 18:54Just that physical act of raising up your heart in your chest affects you mentally.
- 18:59And, I wonder if just, you know, Sunday morning, remembering whose day it is.
- 19:06And, lifting up your heart physically.
- 19:10And, then in prayer and thinking about something.
- 19:14You know, maybe pick a psalm the night before.
- 19:16There's so many beautiful ones that have that anticipation.
- 19:20And, excitement for coming before the presence of God in worship.
- 19:24Maybe choosing one of those to go over in your mind.
- 19:28Or, pray, you know, while you're in the shower.
- 19:31Or, talk about it.
- 19:32Talk about that with your spouse instead of whatever you were grumbling about.
- 19:35You know, what a beautiful occasion this is.
- 19:38And, I'm not trying to make it sound so Pollyanna.
- 19:41But, I do think it's got to be a discipline.
- 19:45And, how, I don't want to get to the end of my life and realize or feel any kind of regret.
- 19:52That I had all these opportunities to praise and walked in the door looking like this.
- 19:57You know, so anyway.
- 20:00That's brilliantly simple.
- 20:01Just, today is the Lord's day.
- 20:03You know, I'm not, I'm so proud of you for coming up with something brilliantly simple.
- 20:09But, really, just the, maybe the night before to start thinking about that.
- 20:13Like, tomorrow is not my day.
- 20:15Obviously, every day is the Lord's day.
- 20:17But, Sunday set aside.
- 20:18But, just to be, to start preparing your mind to give that to God.
- 20:23Give everything to God.
- 20:25Whether it's your petty things that are going on between you and the husband.
- 20:30Or, people at church that you may or may not have something going on with.
- 20:35Just, that's very, that's very neat.
- 20:37I've not thought of that before.
- 20:39Okay.
- 20:40Alright.
- 20:41I'm just going to share really quickly.
- 20:43Psalm 95 is a really good one.
- 20:46The first six verses.
- 20:47So, maybe we can memorize the first six verses.
- 20:50Oh, come let us sing for joy to the Lord.
- 20:53Let us shout joyfully to the rock of our salvation.
- 20:56Let us come before his presence with thanksgiving.
- 20:59Let us shout joyfully to him with psalms.
- 21:02For the Lord is a great God and a great king above all gods.
- 21:05In his hand are the depths of the earth.
- 21:07The peaks of the mountains are his also.
- 21:09The sea is his for it was he who made it.
- 21:12And, his hands form the dry land.
- 21:14Come, let us worship and bow down.
- 21:16Let us kneel before the Lord, our maker.
- 21:18And, I love that one because of, you know, he uses all the different worship terms.
- 21:22But, then there's that attitude of joy and thanksgiving.
- 21:25And, he talks about why.
- 21:26Because, because of God.
- 21:29And, you know, he ties it all back to creation because he's our creator.
- 21:34He has made all of these great things.
- 21:36And, then the heart posture in there, you know, later on he says do not harden your heart.
- 21:43Do not turn away from me like they did in the wilderness.
- 21:47The result of that was they will not enter my rest.
- 21:51And, you know, that's the challenge.
- 21:53I think that's where the adversary comes in.
- 21:55I think that's where the adversary comes in.
- 21:57And, he wants us to have that numb, going through the motions, hard heart.
- 22:02And, it robs us.
- 22:04We rob ourselves.
- 22:05We rob our families.
- 22:07We rob our brothers and sisters.
- 22:09You know, oh come and let us sing for joy to the Lord.
- 22:14So, I thought really quickly, you know, what does that really mean for us today?
- 22:19Let's bring back our zeal for worship.
- 22:22And, the psalmist says if you would only hear his voice.
- 22:27And, maybe there's all the distractions, all the worries and anxieties and other things
- 22:32that we've got going on and commitments.
- 22:34You know, those are all necessary part of real life on earth.
- 22:39But, remind ourselves to hear his voice.
- 22:43You know, and oh come before the Lord with joy.
- 22:47Leah praised God after he gave her Judah.
- 22:51And, Moses and Miriam both led that entire congregation of people in praise
- 22:55after God delivered them from Egypt.
- 22:58But, what if we began that praise and worship before the answer of prayer?
- 23:05You know, God's already delivered all of us, right?
- 23:09But, at the beginning of a trial, in the midst of the trial, you know,
- 23:13like Job did, like Habakkuk did.
- 23:17I think I wrote that one down.
- 23:19Habakkuk said in Habakkuk 3, and this is before.
- 23:21Remember at the end, Habakkuk says,
- 23:23even if every grape withers on the vine, I'm still going to praise God.
- 23:27But, before that, he says, Lord, I stand in all of your deeds.
- 23:31God, the Holy One, his glory covered the heavens.
- 23:33His praise filled the earth.
- 23:35His splendor like the sunrise.
- 23:37Ancient mountains crumble and hills collapse, but he marches on forever.
- 23:42So, no matter what's going on in our lives,
- 23:44I feel like God, the message throughout Genesis in the very beginning,
- 23:49all the way to Revelation, Revelation 21, verse 3,
- 23:52the dwelling place of God is with man.
- 23:54He will dwell with them, and they will be his people.
- 23:57God's preparing a way for us to walk with his presence again,
- 24:02just like clear back when he placed man in the Garden of Eden.
- 24:05And, no matter what's going on in our lives, he is worthy of praise.
- 24:11And, he is our great God.
- 24:13So, that's all.
- 24:14What was it you said about entering his rest?
- 24:18Can you go back to that, and where was that in context?
- 24:21It was on the page before.
- 24:22I believe it's in that same psalm.
- 24:24Yeah, at the very end of Psalm 95.
- 24:26When he does that contrast, come, let us bow down,
- 24:29and then he says, do not harden your hearts, starting at verse 8.
- 24:34And, he talks about the wilderness, and then says,
- 24:37truly, they shall not enter into my rest.
- 24:40It made me think, when you were talking about that,
- 24:42is that talking about eternal rest?
- 24:44It probably is, but, you know, when we do these things
- 24:48that he's talking about here, it gives us rest here.
- 24:51Oh, yeah.
- 24:52And, peace here.
- 24:53It's not just about peace and rest in heaven,
- 24:55but peace and rest here on earth, which is like a bonus.
- 24:59It's a double blessing, a double promise,
- 25:02that what we have here on earth is, you know, it's not perfect.
- 25:05It's still this earth, but it's a peace and a rest
- 25:08that we can have because of what God promises us.
- 25:11So, I love that.
- 25:12Worship.
- 25:13Yeah, I think about those times.
- 25:14For me, it's mostly a Wednesday night,
- 25:17you know, especially in the winter when it's dark.
- 25:20I'm just in my pajamas right now,
- 25:23and I might not be feeling it, but, you know,
- 25:26nine times out of ten, maybe ten times out of ten,
- 25:30I'm just so grateful, you know.
- 25:33And, singing and spending time in the Word,
- 25:37spending time with God's people, you know,
- 25:39and going back home with that rest
- 25:42and that moment of peace, you know,
- 25:44carrying you throughout the rest of the week.
- 25:47But, I know for me, the struggle sometimes is,
- 25:50I'm a Christian, this is my obligation,
- 25:53this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
- 25:55You know, this is an expectation.
- 25:57And, when I was looking at all these things,
- 25:59I thought, this is such a different mindset.
- 26:01You know, this is a privilege and an honor.
- 26:05And, an occasion for joy.
- 26:08And, that's what I pray to bring back into my heart.
- 26:13And, I think we can also make that easier for others
- 26:16who are coming to make it a pleasant
- 26:18and a joyful, peaceful, restful experience for them, too.
- 26:21Yes. Okay. What three things?
- 26:23Well, they're related.
- 26:25Two or three things.
- 26:26Yeah, they're related.
- 26:27Okay, I want to know how many of you have seen
- 26:29the, I believe it was MGM production of Camelot,
- 26:33the movie from Camelot back in the 60s, I want to say.
- 26:36Raise your hand if you've seen it.
- 26:38Higher.
- 26:39Two or three people.
- 26:40Okay, there's quite a few.
- 26:42So, it was Richard Harris and, oh, Vanessa Redgrave
- 26:48and, oh, Frank O'Nero. Dreamy. He was dreamy.
- 26:52Well, I was about 11 or 12 years old when this movie,
- 26:55it didn't come out, it came out before that,
- 26:57but I was 11 or 12.
- 26:58My mom and dad had a VCR tape of it.
- 27:01And there were certain things that they would let me watch.
- 27:03You know, I didn't have to ask.
- 27:05That was an okay thing that they would let me watch.
- 27:07But it was just a beautiful movie, beautiful music,
- 27:12beautiful costumes, beautiful scenery, the way they filmed it.
- 27:16And I could still sing every song.
- 27:19I could sing along with every song still today.
- 27:21Did you ever see it?
- 27:22No.
- 27:23Okay, we're going to watch that.
- 27:24You're a lot older than me.
- 27:25So, the movie is about, it's called Camelot.
- 27:28And it's about this idyllic place called Camelot,
- 27:32the kingdom of Camelot, and King Arthur.
- 27:34And if you haven't seen the movie, you've probably heard of King Arthur
- 27:37and the Knights of the Round Table.
- 27:39And he supposedly came up with the idea of justice with the jury system
- 27:43and laws and the Knights of the Round Table
- 27:46and the Round Table, how everyone is equal at the table.
- 27:49And it's about this idyllic place called Camelot.
- 27:54And it's about how everyone is equal at the Round Table.
- 27:56There's no head at the Round Table.
- 27:58And Vanessa Redgrave, she was so beautiful in her costumes.
- 28:02And I just loved to watch the movie.
- 28:05Well, it was an arranged marriage between King Arthur and Guinevere.
- 28:13And they first met, they didn't know each other, but they fell in love.
- 28:16And so the first third of the movie is about them meeting and falling in love
- 28:20and dancing around the castle with all of their people that love them
- 28:24and they love them.
- 28:26And then Lancelot arrives.
- 28:28And he's handsome, and he's a knight, and he's brave.
- 28:31And he knows it, and he's very proud of himself.
- 28:34And he's not very humble.
- 28:36And he knows that he's not very humble, but he does it in a very humble way.
- 28:39So you can't help but like him.
- 28:41And of course he's handsome, like I said.
- 28:44And I'll show you a picture later.
- 28:48So in the movie, Lancelot and Guinevere, at first she hates him.
- 28:54But they start becoming attracted to one another.
- 28:58And sooner, as things go along, they're fighting attraction and then they give in.
- 29:05And they betray King Arthur.
- 29:10And I can still see Richard Harris' face, King Arthur's face, when he finds out
- 29:16about how Lancelot and Guinevere have betrayed him.
- 29:19All right, pause.
- 29:21I saw First Knight with Sean Connery.
- 29:23All right?
- 29:25And I can see his face when he's filming.
- 29:27Yeah.
- 29:29This one's better.
- 29:31So Arthur has to deal with it.
- 29:34Because he had created this justice and this law system.
- 29:38And he couldn't ignore this treason that happened.
- 29:40My point about all this, you're probably wondering,
- 29:42what in the world does this have to do with Genesis?
- 29:44When I was 11 or 12 watching this movie, that is when I wanted to stop.
- 29:48And I did.
- 29:50I would stop the movie at that point, where Lancelot and Guinevere
- 29:52have betrayed King Arthur.
- 29:54Because everything was ruined.
- 29:56They hurt King Arthur.
- 29:58They hurt themselves.
- 30:00They went their separate ways.
- 30:02The whole kingdom was divided and they were fighting about it.
- 30:04The whole thing was ruined.
- 30:06So I would stop it.
- 30:08Rewind it.
- 30:10Start over at the happy time.
- 30:12And it wasn't until, I don't know, four or five years ago,
- 30:14I was preparing a lesson on Genesis 1 and 2
- 30:16that this just occurred to me.
- 30:18That that's like the Garden of Eden.
- 30:20And God created this idyllic place.
- 30:22Eden.
- 30:24And he put these two people in there.
- 30:26And he blessed them.
- 30:28And he gave them things to eat and things to do.
- 30:30And they ruined it.
- 30:32Genesis chapter 3, verse 1.
- 30:34Now the serpent.
- 30:36It starts with now the serpent.
- 30:38And everything was shattered after that.
- 30:41So the definition of Camelot
- 30:43is a time or a place of idyllic happiness.
- 30:45And think about how God planted a garden.
- 30:47He designed these trees.
- 30:49Not just for beauty but for shade
- 30:51and for fruit, things to eat.
- 30:53He created birds of all shapes and sizes.
- 30:55All of these things that he did.
- 30:57Can you imagine having food
- 30:59handed to you by God?
- 31:01Can you imagine the taste of something
- 31:03that God gave to you?
- 31:05He did all of these things
- 31:07for Adam and Eve.
- 31:09And they threw it away.
- 31:11And don't you just wish we could rewind?
- 31:13We just want to rewind.
- 31:17Well,
- 31:19after that,
- 31:21and you kind of alluded to this
- 31:23and John did in his prior lesson,
- 31:25the rest of the Bible is about
- 31:27trying to put this back together.
- 31:29Not trying to. God does put this back together.
- 31:31But after Genesis 3, verse 1
- 31:33is about, like you said,
- 31:35God wanting to be with his people.
- 31:38And God wanting us to have a relationship.
- 31:40And so he devised a plan.
- 31:42And he enacted it.
- 31:44And so that's what the rest of the Bible is about.
- 31:46But still, we just want to go back.
- 31:48Rewind it and go back to where
- 31:50it was a time before sin.
- 31:52It was a time before Lancelot even came.
- 31:54And Guinevere and Arthur were happy.
- 31:56And I think about Adam and Eve
- 31:58and how they must have been happy
- 32:00and then the serpent.
- 32:02And then they gave in.
- 32:04They were only thinking of themselves when they sinned.
- 32:06And I think that's true of us.
- 32:08We're thinking of ourselves when we sin.
- 32:10Or we're thinking of what we want.
- 32:12We're not thinking about God's ultimate purpose.
- 32:14So do we betray
- 32:16God's goodness?
- 32:18Like Lancelot and Guinevere betrayed Arthur.
- 32:20And that may be a silly example,
- 32:22but when I was 11
- 32:24and I remember
- 32:26why don't I like this anymore?
- 32:28Why do I want to keep going back to the beginning?
- 32:30And it dawned on me as an adult.
- 32:32Maybe my parents knew that.
- 32:34Maybe that was why they noticed
- 32:36that I was stopping the movie there
- 32:38and going back and watching again.
- 32:40So that was the first thing that I wanted to bring up.
- 32:42The other two,
- 32:44John just stomped all over everything.
- 32:46If you were in his class before,
- 32:48we can just stop now.
- 32:50Because he said basically everything.
- 32:52But I want us to look at Genesis 1 and 2.
- 32:54What we can learn
- 32:56about the nature and character of God.
- 32:58From Genesis 1 and 2.
- 33:00Have you ever wondered
- 33:03why it seems like there are two creation accounts?
- 33:05We read Genesis 1
- 33:07and then he starts over
- 33:09and it's like, why is he telling this account again?
- 33:11Why are we talking about it?
- 33:13I thought he already created that.
- 33:15But let's look through
- 33:17Genesis 1 and help me
- 33:19look through and tell me
- 33:21all of the words that we see
- 33:23that God, things that God did.
- 33:25In Genesis 1,
- 33:27in the beginning, God what?
- 33:29And then in verse 3, God
- 33:31said.
- 33:33And then in verse 4, God
- 33:35saw.
- 33:37And then God called.
- 33:39Oh sorry, that's verse 5.
- 33:43We're still in verse 4.
- 33:45God separated light from day.
- 33:47Then in verse 5, God
- 33:49called.
- 33:51And it says that twice.
- 33:53And then in verse 6, God said.
- 33:55And then in verse 7, God made.
- 33:57In verse 8, called.
- 33:59And then in verse 9, God said.
- 34:01Verse 10, God called.
- 34:03And then there's another one in there.
- 34:05He saw.
- 34:07In verse 11, God
- 34:09saw.
- 34:13And then in verse 12,
- 34:15God, at the end, he saw.
- 34:17And then in verse 14,
- 34:19God said.
- 34:21And then in verse 16,
- 34:23God made.
- 34:2517, God said.
- 34:28And then in verse
- 34:3018, God saw.
- 34:32And in verse
- 34:3420, said.
- 34:36Verse 21,
- 34:38created. And there's another one in there.
- 34:40And then verse 22,
- 34:42God, okay.
- 34:44Whew, five minutes. Okay.
- 34:46You get the point. There's lots of things that God
- 34:48does in chapter 1.
- 34:50And there's five times that, depending
- 34:52on your translation, he created,
- 34:54he saw, he called,
- 34:56he made, he divided, he separated.
- 34:58But most of all, what you see in here is that God
- 35:00said.
- 35:02And with words, he spoke everything
- 35:04into existence. And let there
- 35:06be light. And that phrase,
- 35:08let there be, is just
- 35:10be. And what's
- 35:12funny about this, and I think it's funny, maybe I'm
- 35:14the only one, but that Hebrew word is
- 35:16hayah!
- 35:18So it's like God said, hayah!
- 35:20But let, it's like
- 35:22firmament, exist.
- 35:24Let others gather.
- 35:26He just said, and it happened.
- 35:28And I love that.
- 35:30We see how powerful God is
- 35:32in creation.
- 35:34But then in verse 27,
- 35:36we see more,
- 35:38a glimpse of the God we learn more about in chapter 2.
- 35:40Of course, these chapter divisions are made by man.
- 35:42And I would have liked
- 35:44for it to be divided between
- 35:4626 and 27, just because
- 35:48this lesson would have been in chapter 1
- 35:50and then in chapter 2.
- 35:53So God created man
- 35:55in his own image, the image of God.
- 35:57He created him, male and female.
- 35:59He created. So three times, he says
- 36:01created. And those are
- 36:03two words with the same root
- 36:05that means
- 36:07something different than that spoken
- 36:09command. God
- 36:11did this. He created.
- 36:13It's not just that he said
- 36:15spoke them into existence, but with
- 36:17man, he created them, right?
- 36:19And so, in
- 36:21chapter 2,
- 36:23let's look and see, and we have to go fast through here.
- 36:25Let me just tell you. And you can look and see.
- 36:27In chapter 2, we see the verbs
- 36:29that he formed,
- 36:31he breathed, he planted,
- 36:33he caused to grow,
- 36:35he put, and he took. And you talked about
- 36:37that. He blessed,
- 36:39he commanded, he brought the animals to man.
- 36:41He caused Adam
- 36:43to sleep. He took.
- 36:45These are very different than
- 36:47speaking, right? These are very hands-on.
- 36:49God is a hands-on God
- 36:51in chapter 2.
- 36:53It's interesting, too, in the
- 36:55creation of man, the word, and I don't know
- 36:57if I'm saying it right, but it's Y-I-S-E-R.
- 36:59It's probably you say or something
- 37:01like that. But it's like
- 37:03God forming him like a potter forms
- 37:05clay. And we see that in Isaiah
- 37:0764, 8. So,
- 37:09I just think it's so interesting
- 37:11that chapter 1,
- 37:13we see the power
- 37:15of God and the might of God and
- 37:17seeking things into existence. And then
- 37:19with the creation of man,
- 37:21his hands are used. He touches,
- 37:23and he puts, and he plants, and he breathes
- 37:25the breath of life into man.
- 37:27So, chapter 1 is the mighty, awesome power.
- 37:29Chapter 2, much more intimate and hands-on.
- 37:31And then the last thing that I wanted to mention
- 37:33is we learn about God by what he's
- 37:35called in Genesis 1 and 2. And John
- 37:37talked a lot about this in his lesson.
- 37:39First, all throughout
- 37:41chapter 1, he's called
- 37:43God, or depending on your translation,
- 37:45the word is Elohim.
- 37:47I mean, it will be Elohim in whatever
- 37:49translation in the Hebrew, but whatever
- 37:51translation you're reading, it may say
- 37:53something besides God. But God,
- 37:55he's Elohim.
- 37:57And Elohim is not so much
- 37:59just a name, but it's who he is.
- 38:01It's the might and
- 38:03the power of God.
- 38:05I'm not even asking if you have something you want to say.
- 38:07The creator, yes.
- 38:09It conveys like special reverence.
- 38:11It demands
- 38:13honor and majesty.
- 38:15But then in chapter 2, verse 4,
- 38:17what do you see?
- 38:19These are the generations of the
- 38:21heavens and the earth when they were created, and the day
- 38:23that the Lord
- 38:25God. So here,
- 38:27Yahweh, or depending
- 38:29on how you say it, I said Yahweh.
- 38:31John said it different now
- 38:33after his study this week.
- 38:35Yahweh Elohim,
- 38:37the Lord God.
- 38:39And while Elohim
- 38:41carries with it the majestic portrayal,
- 38:43Yahweh is the name of
- 38:45God, and it conveys this covenant relationship
- 38:47that he wants to have with his people.
- 38:49And so when he's giving
- 38:51this account of
- 38:53forming man, making man,
- 38:55that's our Lord God.
- 38:57That's the one
- 38:59that wants to have a personal relationship with us,
- 39:01and I love that. And the only other
- 39:03thing that I think is so fascinating
- 39:05is
- 39:07where he says that he took
- 39:09the rib from Adam.
- 39:11Where is that?
- 39:13He took the rib from Adam,
- 39:15and then the word that he talks about
- 39:17creating the woman,
- 39:19that word means built.
- 39:21In chapter 2, 22,
- 39:23he built woman.
- 39:25It's the only time that he uses that in the
- 39:27creation account. He built woman.
- 39:29And I think that's so neat too,
- 39:31that he took the rib from man
- 39:33and built woman.
- 39:35It's just interesting to me
- 39:37that here's these two accounts of creation,
- 39:39and one of them is very
- 39:41spoken and powerful and majestic,
- 39:43and then there's this very intimate
- 39:45God coming down to be with
- 39:47man, and forming man, and wanting
- 39:49to have a relationship with him.
- 39:51Just two chapters, and you can learn a lot,
- 39:53and there's so much more that we didn't even touch on.
- 39:55So we kind of touched on the same thing,
- 39:57because we were talking
- 39:59about worship, and you were talking about
- 40:01the God that we worship, and how powerful
- 40:03he is, but he wants that
- 40:05close-walking relationship
- 40:07with us, and the only thing I would say
- 40:09in your first point
- 40:11is that none of that
- 40:13caught God by surprise.
- 40:15He did create this beautiful
- 40:17place, and everything was idyllic and
- 40:19perfect, and man messed it up,
- 40:21but it's not like he didn't see
- 40:23that coming. He knew that was going to
- 40:25happen. He knew
- 40:27all of that was going to happen, but left us enough
- 40:29to do it anyway, and had
- 40:31the kingdom in mind from eternity.
- 40:33Unlike Sean Connery and the
- 40:35ancient God that you mentioned.
- 40:41Thank you guys so much. Usually at the end of every episode
- 40:43whoever is driving will ask the other
- 40:45person to stay afraid, so if you know what that
- 40:47is, go ahead and say it now.
- 40:49Until next time,
- 40:51He will be known.
- 40:53Thank you. Thanks for joining us.