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Jes Staley And The Transcripts From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 14) (9/7/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  Speaker 1: where we left off with Jess Staley and the transcript
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  Speaker 1: from his trip to Congress. Question, why then ask Steve
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  Speaker 1: Cutler to hear Mr. Epstein out if you think they
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  Speaker 1: should have acted differently in retaining him as a client? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I think one doesn't have to do with the other.
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  Speaker 1: Just having the chief counsel or bank listen to Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein before the bank makes is or as the bank
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  Speaker 1: makes its decision, what to do with his accounts, made sense.
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  Speaker 1: The bank would be most informed, the most senior officer
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  Speaker 1: responsible for it would be informed, and they would hopefully
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  Speaker 1: make the right decision. Question, did you ever loan Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein money? Answer, no. Question, are you aware of Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein exerting influence on J.P. Morgan to convince them to
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  Speaker 1: grant loans? Answer, no. Question, did Mr. Epstein ever procure loans?
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  Speaker 1: For Leon Black from JP Morgan? Answer. Did he ever
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  Speaker 1: procure loans? Leon Black borrowed in his own right. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Did Mr. Epstein say anything to JP Morgan to influence
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  Speaker 1: their granting of a loan to Leon Black? Answer. Not
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  Speaker 1: that I'm aware of. Question. Were you involved in any
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  Speaker 1: loans for Leon Black? Answer. Directly, no. Question. How were
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  Speaker 1: you involved indirectly? Answer. Indirectly, no. I was not involved
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  Speaker 1: with loans to Leon Black. Question, who would have been
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  Speaker 1: responsible for handling loans to Mr. Black? Answer, his bankers
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  Speaker 1: in the credit department. Question, and who was his banker? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Question, was it Justin Nelson? Answer, it
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  Speaker 1: could have been at one point, yes. Question, did you
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  Speaker 1: ever speak to Mr. Nelson about loans for Leon Black? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: not that I can recall, no. Question, did Mr. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: speak with Mr. Nelson about loans for Leon Black? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: not that I'm aware of. Question, did you ever ask
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  Speaker 1: JP Morgan to grant Mr. Epstein a loan? Answer, no.
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  Speaker 1: I know he asked for a loan, but I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was no. But no, I did not ask the
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  Speaker 1: bank to grant Epstein a loan. Question, what did he
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  Speaker 1: ask for a loan for? Answer again, I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: I think at one point he asked whether the bank
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  Speaker 1: would extend credit to a modeling agency. Question, how did
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  Speaker 1: you become aware of that? Answer, I don't know. My
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  Speaker 1: recollection is through the press. Question, were you ever made
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  Speaker 1: aware of his request for a line of credit during
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  Speaker 1: your time at J.P. Morgan? Answer, I believe so, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: who would have told you? Answer, I don't know. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did you work on granting this line of credit? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: the New York Times has reported that J.P. Morgan provided
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  Speaker 1: financial backing for Mr. Epstein to help Jean-Luc Brunel start
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  Speaker 1: a modeling agency called MC2. Some of Epstein's underage victims
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  Speaker 1: said MC2 lured them to the United States with the
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  Speaker 1: prospect of paid modeling work. And Brunel was arrested in
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  Speaker 1: France in 2022 for charges of raping teenage girls. Who
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  Speaker 1: authorized that line of credit? Answer, I don't know. Question,
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  Speaker 1: have you ever met anyone who worked for MC2? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: have you ever met Jean-Luc Brunel? Answer, no. Question, were
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  Speaker 1: you aware of the DOJ's investigation into whether Mr. Brunel's
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  Speaker 1: MC2 modeling work Agency was feeding girls and women into Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's suspected sex trafficking ring? Answer, no. Question, was anyone
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  Speaker 1: aware of this investigation at J.P. Morgan? Answer, I don't know. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did Mr. Epstein ever try to secure banking ties at
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  Speaker 1: Barclay in any way once he became CEO? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever discuss Barclays with Mr. Epstein? Answer, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: what did you discuss? Answer, no. We discussed the discussions
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  Speaker 1: I had with Barclay in 2012. And then, I told Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: when I was offered the job in 2015, that I'd
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  Speaker 1: cease all contact and relationship with him. Question, did Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein ask why? Answer, no. I think it was obvious why. Question,
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  Speaker 1: how did he respond? Answer, he understood. Question, where were
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  Speaker 1: you when you told him? Answer, I believe I was
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  Speaker 1: in New York. It was by phone. Question, okay. A
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  Speaker 1: crucial part of the committee's investigation is to better understand...
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  Speaker 1: how Epstein and Maxwell use their connections to prominent individuals
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  Speaker 1: to curry favor and shield themselves from scrutiny. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to read you a list of names. Please say yes
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  Speaker 1: or no to the following question, then I'll ask you
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  Speaker 1: to elaborate. The question is, have you ever met or
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  Speaker 1: communicated with any of the following people regarding any crimes
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  Speaker 1: committed by Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell? Frederick Fokai, answer no.
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  Speaker 1: Question Philip Levine, answer can you ask the question again? Question, yes.
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  Speaker 1: The question is, have you ever met or communicated with
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  Speaker 1: any of the following people regarding any crime committed by
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell? Frederick Fekai. Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: Philip Levine. Answer, no. Question, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, formerly known
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  Speaker 1: as Prince Andrew. Answer, let's come back to his name. Question,
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  Speaker 1: Sultan Ahmed bin Suleiman. Answer, no. Question, Jean-Luc Brunel. Answer, no.
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  Speaker 1: Leon Black. Answer, no. Question, Terry Rod Larson? Answer, go
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  Speaker 1: back to his name again, please. Question, okay, Terry Rod Larson? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: George Mitchell? Answer, no. Question, Glenn Dubin? Answer, let's go
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  Speaker 1: back to him as well. Question, Eva Anderson Dubin? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: back to her as well. Question, Sergey Brin? Answer, no.
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  Speaker 1: Mort Zuckerman? No. Peter Mandelson? No. Andrew Farkas? No. Boris Nikolic? No.
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  Speaker 1: David Gergen? No. Larry Summers, no. Les Wexner, no. Jack Kessler, no.
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  Speaker 1: Steven Sanofsky, no. Kathy Rumler, no. Harvey Weinstein, no. Woody Allen, no.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Gates, no. Elon Musk, no. Bill Richardson, no. Ariane,
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  Speaker 1: the Rothschild, no. Any other member of the Rothschild family? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: President Bill Clinton. Answer, no. Question, Secretary Hillary Clinton? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: Doug Band? Answer, no. Question, Ted Wade? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: Ehud Barak? Answer, no. Question, Benjamin Netanyahu? Answer, no. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: returning to? They get cut off by Staley. Answer, if
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  Speaker 1: you can ask the question again. Question, sure. Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever met or communicated with any of the following people
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  Speaker 1: regarding the crimes committed by Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell? Answer, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Question Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, formerly known as Prince Andrew. Answer, no.
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  Speaker 1: Question Leon Black. Answer, skip it, we'll go back to that.
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  Speaker 1: Question Glenn Dubin. Answer, no. Question Eva Anderson Dubin. You
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  Speaker 1: could also tell us what you do know, and that
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  Speaker 1: would be helpful for the committee's investigation. Answer, do I know?
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  Speaker 1: Question if you recall speaking to them at different time
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  Speaker 1: periods about the crimes, anything you recall. Question, no, I
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  Speaker 1: think I would have talked to Glenn and Eva. I
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  Speaker 1: think I had. I think I talked to Leon Black.
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  Speaker 1: So those three, yes, let's keep going. And that's interesting,
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  Speaker 1: considering all the people that he said he talked to
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  Speaker 1: were considered co-conspirators, were considered people who took part in
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  Speaker 1: the abuse. And you know what they say, right? Fellow
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  Speaker 1: travelers and all. Question, so regarding Leon Black, what did
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  Speaker 1: you discuss? Answer, I think we discussed again the crimes
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  Speaker 1: that Epstein was brought down with, And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what I think we discussed. Question, and when was this? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly when it was. Question, was it
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  Speaker 1: after his 2008 conviction? Answer, oh, yes, yes. Question, where
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  Speaker 1: were you? Answer, I don't recall. Question, who else was present? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was. Question, what did Leon Black say? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall. Question, what was his attitude towards Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's conviction? Answer, oh, I think, I don't. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to characterize, I don't know. Question, how did you
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  Speaker 1: perceive his reaction to B? Answer, I think we were all,
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  Speaker 1: it was terrible, that he was convicted of, and it
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  Speaker 1: was a horrible thing what Epstein did. I think we
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  Speaker 1: both responded to how we both knew him, and both
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  Speaker 1: responded to how terrible his actions were, or what he did.
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  Speaker 1: Are you talking about 2019? Question, it could be 2019.
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  Speaker 1: Any of the crimes of Mr. Epstein, Glenn Maxwell, have
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  Speaker 1: you discussed them with Leon Black? Answer, 2019, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Dubin. Answer, I don't. Again, 2019, I'm sorry. It's
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  Speaker 1: possibly it was 2019. Question, and when would this have been? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: with Glenn Dubin. Question, when you would have discussed the
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  Speaker 1: 2019 crimes with Leon Black. Answer, I don't recall. Question,
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  Speaker 1: but you recall you did discuss them with Mr. Black. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: 2019 crimes, yeah. I don't recall if I did, so
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  Speaker 1: I would scratch Leon Black. I would say with Glenn
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  Speaker 1: and Eva Dubin. Question, but you did meet with Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Black about the 2008 conviction? Answer, I met with Leon
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  Speaker 1: Black about business and other things, and we may have
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  Speaker 1: talked about it, but I didn't meet him for that
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  Speaker 1: purpose of talking about 2008 or 2019. Question, what did
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  Speaker 1: you discuss with Glenn Dubin? Answer, Glenn and Eva and
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  Speaker 1: I are good friends. I think we just talked about
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  Speaker 1: Epstein overall. We didn't talk any specifics about the crimes
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  Speaker 1: committed and whatnot, but just it impacted both of our
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  Speaker 1: lives dramatically. And I think we talked about that. Question,
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  Speaker 1: how did it impact their lives dramatically? Answer, I think
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  Speaker 1: both the Dubins and I have been ostracized by part
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  Speaker 1: of society, have been excluded from institutions that we were
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  Speaker 1: part of before. So investments that we've made, we've had
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  Speaker 1: to turn away from. well here's an idea stop abusing
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  Speaker 1: people while you're hanging out with Epstein thanks for coming
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  Speaker 1: to my TED talk question how did you be how
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  Speaker 1: did you or have you met Benjamin Netanyahu answer once
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  Speaker 1: question where was this answer in the Prime Minister's office
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  Speaker 1: in Israel question who else was present Answer, just me. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did Mr. cut some off? Staley, I think he had
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  Speaker 1: like a secretary there as well. Question, did Mr. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: facilitate the meeting? Answer, yes he did. Question, why? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I asked him to. Question, why? Answer, I asked him to.
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  Speaker 1: He knew I was trying to meet with the Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister and I was having difficulty getting on his calendar.
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  Speaker 1: And I mentioned that to Epstein and then I met
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  Speaker 1: with the Prime Minister. Question, what was Mr. Epstein's relationship
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  Speaker 1: to Benjamin Netanyahu? Answer, I think he knew him. That's all. Question,
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  Speaker 1: how would you characterize a relationship? Answer, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't characterize it. Question, why would you ask Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein to help you get on the calendar? Answer, I
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  Speaker 1: think that he had a relationship with individuals in Israel.
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  Speaker 1: He knew Ehud Barak well, and I think he may
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  Speaker 1: have mentioned that he knew Benjamin Netanyahu. So I asked
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  Speaker 1: if he could help get me a meeting. And when
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  Speaker 1: did you meet with Mr. Netanyahu? Answer, I don't recall. Question,
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  Speaker 1: why were you attempting to get on his calendar? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I was visiting Israel on business, and I thought it
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  Speaker 1: would be of interest to meet with the Prime Minister. Question,
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  Speaker 1: would you say this was around March 2011? Answer, it
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  Speaker 1: could have been. Question, what did you discuss at the meeting? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I just think we talked about the Middle East and geopolitics,
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  Speaker 1: nothing specific. Question, why would Benjamin Netanyahu agree to meet
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  Speaker 1: with you when there was no set topic? What did
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  Speaker 1: he believe the reason was for the meeting? Answer, it's possible,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to speculate, it was a long time ago. Question,
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  Speaker 1: why was he also interested meeting with you? Answer, this
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  Speaker 1: is 2011. Question, uh-huh. Answer, I was a senior executive
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  Speaker 1: of J.P. Morgan. J.P. Morgan had a lot of business
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  Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Ms. Toland, so you were meeting
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  Speaker 1: him on behalf of J.P. Morgan? Staley, yes. Question, have
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  Speaker 1: you ever met with Benjamin Netanyahu with Mr. Epstein? Answer, no.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here.
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  Speaker 1: And in the next episode, we're going to pick up
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  Speaker 1: with question, What was Mr. Epstein's relationship with Ehud Barak?
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  Speaker 1: All the information that goes with this episode can be
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  Speaker 1: found in the description box.