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2/24/26: Trump Polling Freefall, Dire Warning On Iran, Lord Mandelson Arrested · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 2: Indeed, we do State of the Union tonight. We will
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  Speaker 2: approval ratings, how it compares to previous years, look back
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  Speaker 2: that live stream. Lots else going on right now, though
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  Speaker 2: we've got extraordinary leaks coming out of the White House
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  Speaker 2: to a wide varie of news outlets warning against war
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  Speaker 2: with Iran. So we'll break that down for you as
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  Speaker 2: we continue to try to read the tea leaves. There
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  Speaker 2: also big news out of the UK. Lord Mandelson has
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  Speaker 2: been arrested due to revelations from the Epstein files. In addition,
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  Speaker 2: we have some new shocking revelations from those files we
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  Speaker 2: We have this secret DNC GAZA memo. We want him
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  Speaker 2: to react to that State of the Union preview. He
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  Speaker 2: is co sponsoring a war Powers resolution on Iran with
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  Speaker 3: with the state of the Union, Bristol.
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  Speaker 1: Where are we? What is the state?
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  Speaker 4: Are not right? In my opinion?
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  Speaker 2: In any case, CNN did some polling and Harry Anton
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  Speaker 2: did one of his quintessential polling breakdowns of where Trump
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  Speaker 2: stands visa the American people.
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  Speaker 4: This is a two. Let's go ahead and roll that.
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  Speaker 5: The lowest that any president has been this century going
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  Speaker 5: in with state of Union at this point, their presidents say.
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  Speaker 5: It is also the weakest that Donald Trump has ever
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  Speaker 5: been with independence.
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  Speaker 6: Look at this drop. We've been talking about it the
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  Speaker 6: past few months. At this point a year ago, Donald
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  Speaker 6: Trump was at minus thirteen points. Look at this minus
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  Speaker 6: forty seven points among independence, the lowest Donald Trump has
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  Speaker 6: ever been in either of his two terms.
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  Speaker 2: So minus forty seven with independence, according to that polling.
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  Speaker 2: We pulled some historical polling data. This is based on
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  Speaker 2: the Real Clear Politics average, which actually looks a little
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  Speaker 2: bit better for him than some of the other polling
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  Speaker 2: coming out. So this is sort of like best case scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go and put a one up on the screen.
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  Speaker 2: We can see the comparison here this year versus last year.
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  Speaker 2: So currently he is minus thirteen in terms of his
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  Speaker 2: approval rating. And look, on the one hand, you'll say, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has typically been pretty unpopular, but this is
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  Speaker 2: a big contrast with where he sat last year when
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  Speaker 2: he gave his joint address to Congress, when he actually
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  Speaker 2: was basically fifty to fifty on his approval rating. He
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  Speaker 2: was plus one point two percent there, so he actually
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit above water in terms of his
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  Speaker 2: approval rating. That was really quite a high watermark. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and take a look at the job approval
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  Speaker 2: ratings from his first term in office. You can see
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  Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen he was similarly situated to where he
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  Speaker 2: is now twenty eighteen. You know, about eleven points underwater,
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  Speaker 2: ten points underwater in twenty nineteen. Again about nine points
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  Speaker 2: underwater in twenty twenty. So you know, it's not his
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  Speaker 2: first trip to the rodeo in terms of being unpopular,
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  Speaker 2: But it does seem like the numbers have dipped pretty close,
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  Speaker 2: if not exceeding the lows that we've seen from his
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  Speaker 2: first term.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the independent number is the most important one,
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  Speaker 3: and you should remember, you know, the twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 3: State of the Union was I think the apotheosis of Trump.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you were really going to go back the
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  Speaker 3: first term, we were deeply divided as a country. Biden
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  Speaker 3: came into office, he was supposed to fix it. Everything
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  Speaker 3: literally went to shit. Trump gets elected with the first
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  Speaker 3: popular vote victory for Republican since two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 3: This is the highest of highs for Donald Trump whenever
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  Speaker 3: it comes to his approval rating. He won more independence,
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  Speaker 3: reshaped the coalition, The independent dip now in the interim
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  Speaker 3: has really dramatically changed the story. And then the plus
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  Speaker 3: minus not only just resembles as a first term, but
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  Speaker 3: I do think it's fundamentally different actually with the way
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  Speaker 3: that the MAGA coalition currently is now. I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to say that MAGA itself is not fractured or is
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  Speaker 3: not unfractured. Like there's a diehard Trump people who are
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  Speaker 3: out there who are never going to ditch Trump. That's
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  Speaker 3: exactly like it was in the first term. But there's
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  Speaker 3: several different characteristics and treacherous days that lie ahead. We
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  Speaker 3: are literally on the brink of a war with the
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  Speaker 3: Before playing the show, we're like, well, do we start
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  Speaker 3: with war with Iran or state of the Union. Right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is at the top of everybody's mind.
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  Speaker 3: It could fundamentally change the trajectory of any president. War
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  Speaker 3: in peace is the one deciding factor that can destroy
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  Speaker 3: the economy. Obviously, we have AI, which we're going to
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  Speaker 3: talk about in a little bit, very treacherous in terms
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  Speaker 3: of how that's going to look for the future. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of dissatisfaction, inflation, housing, and then really what I
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  Speaker 3: would add is the revolutionary spirit of MAGA in twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five is dead.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it actually is dead.
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  Speaker 3: Like there is no hope from I mean, let's think
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  Speaker 3: and let's break the coalition down. MAGA was various different things.
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  Speaker 3: It was you know, quote unquote anti war. You can
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  Speaker 3: dispute that, but like there was part of that, right, Well, okay,
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  Speaker 3: it's been a year, so we know there was MAHA.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Maha was they had They're like, we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: pull the vaccine. Maderna's dead, glych Estate's gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how'd that work out?
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  Speaker 7: All?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Trump literally just gave an exactive orders giving immunity to
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  Speaker 3: the glys Glice, the state manufacturers, and RFK Junior is
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  Speaker 3: defending it. You had Tulsey Gabbard who defenstrated herself in public.
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  Speaker 3: Now she has to turn herself and to stop the steal,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the czar or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Just to be able to walk into the Oval office.
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  Speaker 3: Ye, you've got people like Cash Ptel and Pete Hegseth
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  Speaker 3: for them again. You know, listen, I was part of
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  Speaker 3: these people. I go, hey, let's try let's blow the
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  Speaker 3: ship up. Let's see how well we now we work.
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  Speaker 3: Now we see how it works out. It works out
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  Speaker 3: with Pete, you know, just gallivanting around the world doing
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  Speaker 3: his bench press, and Cash Battel chugging beers with Team
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  Speaker 3: USA Hockey, doing podcasts with his girlfriend as a forty
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  Speaker 3: four year old man who left. And then the Epstein's right,
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  Speaker 3: we had high host of Epstein stuff, remember, So, like
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  Speaker 3: I really do like the past is a different.
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  Speaker 1: World in a lot of ways from where we are.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't even talked about Ice and all the other
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  Speaker 3: ship that's going on. I do think it's important for
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  Speaker 3: people to remember like where they were floating on up
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  Speaker 3: high and then where we are about a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean it's just been a dramatic change
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  Speaker 3: compared to Biden Biden also came in with high hopes.
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  Speaker 3: He could have had a seventy percent approval rating. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they had the Cares Act, and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: they were like, Oh, we're gonna change everything in the
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  Speaker 3: new FDR and then boom, what happens you have?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, did they invade?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're around February twenty four, we had an
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  Speaker 3: invasion of Ukraine, we had the collapse in Afghanistan. Inflation
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  Speaker 3: was a disaster, gas prices, very similar dynamic, and I
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: think at that time that's right around not only when
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  Speaker 3: Biden's approval went negative, just like with Trump, but that's
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  Speaker 3: when a lot of people were like, Oh, there's no
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  Speaker 3: saving this, There's no saving whatever the hell comes out
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  Speaker 3: from this.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that way with Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's honestly, really pretty hard for me to remember
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  Speaker 2: not only my sense at the beginning of the Biden presidency,
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  Speaker 2: which was probably not the same as the sense of
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  Speaker 2: the American people, but more importantly, like what the general
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  Speaker 2: feeling was. I know for the core like base of
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. I don't know if there was like
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: Biden was just like Okay, it's fine, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to try to put some of the pieces
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  Speaker 2: back together. I feel like there was more like real
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  Speaker 2: excitement in the MAGA base and with the MAGA coalition
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  Speaker 2: for this second Trump term. And so I went back
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  Speaker 2: and I was I was looking at the speech from
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  Speaker 2: last year, and it was kind of incredible to me
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  Speaker 2: just how different the moment was. You know, it was
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: the anti woke stuff. We're you know, getting the boys
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: on a girl's sports and he's calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: and talking about DEI and saying, you know, oh, we're
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: only going to have merit based selection in the government. Yeah,
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: we see how meritorious these various clowns and fools are
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: in terms of this government. Obviously, you had Doge, you
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: had promises about we're going to end the Ukraine War,
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  Speaker 2: you know, promises about at that point, I don't remember
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: where we were with the you know, potential Gaza piecedal.
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  Speaker 4: We thought you were in that's right. It was a
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  Speaker 4: very right at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: It was a big hole.
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  Speaker 2: So there was there was a sense of like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not like obviously I've been very negative about
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  Speaker 2: them from the beginning, but that's why you saw the
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  Speaker 2: approval rating basically at fifty to fifty, a place where
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  Speaker 2: he had never been for is people were like, Okay,
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: maybe this will be genuinely different. Maybe there are going
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: to be some things here. Maybe he's going to be
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: a great businessman. Maybe he is going to you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think people sort of bought into the rhetoric about
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  Speaker 2: the government efficiency and.
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  Speaker 4: Doge blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he is going to cut the fat in government.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this is going to all work out. And now
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  Speaker 2: a year later, just thinking about all that we've lived through,
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: in all of the various catastrophic you know, mistakes, and
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: the ugliness in the country and all of that. Whatever
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  Speaker 2: hope existed among your sort of like independent swing voter
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  Speaker 2: has deadly been crushed. And I think the two biggest
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: things are really the economy. And I would say Epstein
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  Speaker 2: genuinely because he is his whole brand of being the
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: outsider that was going to come in and slay the
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: sacred cows and sort of like right the previous wrongs
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: and up end the apple car do the difficult things
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  Speaker 2: that previous you know, elites unwilling to do. Because he
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  Speaker 2: was this different kind of guy, like you know, many
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: of us saw through that brand. But that was the brand,
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  Speaker 2: and once you have the Epstein files cover up, there
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  Speaker 2: is no more like you just can't be a remotely
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: honest or sane person and continue to hold on to
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: that view. And that's why I think even though you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you ask people and polls like what's your number
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: one issue, Epstein is not going to be high at
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: the list. But I think it truly has been devastating.
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  Speaker 2: It's been most devastating for you know, some of his
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  Speaker 2: core supports, especially his core coalition, coming into this past election.
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  Speaker 2: So let's go and take a look at a four
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  Speaker 2: you know, indications about how this is going to go.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently it's going to be a long speech. You have a.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: Programming preview for Stave of the Union tomorrow. It's going
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: to be a long speech because we have so much
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: to talk about. We do have a lot to talk about.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Trump loves to give a long speech, so that is
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: something we will be watching for. And then just to
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: give you a sense again of the moment we were
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  Speaker 2: in last year at this time, which at least to
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  Speaker 2: me feels like a freaking eternity ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this was like peak.
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  Speaker 2: Doge elon riding high and his Doge warriors rampaging through
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  Speaker 2: the government, et cetera, et cetera, Trump lauding all of
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  Speaker 2: these supposed which we all learned ended up being like
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: fake and lies.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: We ended up spending more money after Doge, not saving money,
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. In any case, Trump went through
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: this whole list of all the supposed savings that Elon
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: was finding and garnering, you know, and clawing back to
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: make better use of our tax dollars, et cetera. Let's
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: take a listen to a.
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  Speaker 8: Five, and to that end, I have created the brand
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  Speaker 8: new Department of Government Efficiency does perhaps you've heard of it, perhaps,
• 12:51
  Speaker 8: which is headed by Elon Musk, who is in the gallery.
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  Speaker 7: Tonight, headed up by Elan, and we appreciate it. We
• 13:10
  Speaker 7: found hundreds of billions of dollars of.
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  Speaker 2: How are you guys liking all those same things? How
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: are you liking your Doge dividend checks? Did those arrive
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: in the mail for you?
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, just again, so government spending didn't change, just
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: if anybody it went up. Yeah, yeah, it went up. Yeah,
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: you can you can even go and look on the
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: Treasury Department made everything we publish all.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Of this stuff. I don't know.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: I don't even know at this point if it was
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Doze or if it was just like general trumpiness, but
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: it is worth reflecting back on that moment. You know,
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: I always underestimated the bro support for Doge. I never
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: really got it, maybe because I'm from here and I
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, good luck. But for a lot of them,
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: they were like deeply enthralled by this idea, Like they
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: actually believed that it would, you know, through the executive
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: stroke of a pen, that you could fundally, fundamentally like
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: restructure Washington and that you know, tens hundreds of billions
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: of dollars actually were being spent on I don't know,
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: transgender mice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that was or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, I remember trying to explain to them
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  Speaker 3: before the election. I was like, guys, like, unless we're
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: going after the Pentagon or Medicare, like, nothing is going
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  Speaker 3: to change. They're like, oh, he's a hater and all
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  Speaker 3: of this well, I don't tried to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: He did a long bit in the speech about like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: all these one hundred and ten year olds on Social Security,
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Again, this all turned out to be
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: total and complete bullshit. And the only thing they did
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: was like destroy the quality of service at the Social
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Security Administration. So it's so much harder for people who
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: are legitimate Social Security beneficiaries to actually access their benefits.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: That was the kind of thing they actually did. But
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I understand why someone who is
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: you know, not super versed in the budget and how
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: this works and where the actual savings would have to
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: come from, and the type of you know, the type
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: of elites that you would have to go after, for example,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: to deal with like Medicare or Medicaid fraud. You're talking
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: about these are you know, wealthy people, and many one
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: of them is you a senator for the Republican Party.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: We're talking about people who have significant power. Those are
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: the types you would have to go after. And so
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I can understand why people who weren't deeply ingrained in
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: that process and understanding those dynamics would think that there
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: was something cool about this energy of like, Okay, this
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: guy's this you know, if you're buying elon hype, he's
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: this great businessman, he's this great tech genius. He's going
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: to bring in this cadre of like super smart autistic
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: geniuses to like run rampant through the federal government. And
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: there is something aspirational about the idea of bringing back
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: like the top of the top, the cream of the crop,
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: into the federal government and taking a look at it
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: making it more efficient. I mean, Zorin's trying to do
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: a version of his own version of Doge in New
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: York City of saying, listen, if you're going to you know,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: if we're going to ask you to pay taxes, we
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: want you in significant taxes in New York City. We
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: want you to feel like that money is being well used.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: So I can kind of like empathize with people who
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: thought that this was a great project. Of course, everyone
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: wants to cut the fat in government, and there's death
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: definitely places that there is fraud that there.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Is fat to be cut.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: But you know, here we are a year later, and
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: not only as Doge de Doge completely fail and just
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: sort of like crumble it made things worse, which I think,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: frankly was that and like data siphoning was the point.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: And we've also seen like multiple seasons of Elon and
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Trump's relationship since then, right they were besties. Here Elon
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: was camped in d C. Prior to Trump's inauguration, he
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: was like hanging out of mar A Lago all the time.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Then they have this parting of the ways but still amicable.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Then they have the total falling out, and Elon says
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: the reason that Epstein files aren't getting releases because Trump's
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: in them. I'm not backing any Republicans. I'm done spending money.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Eight months ago. Yeah, that's that was how long ago.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: And now there's obviously been a reproach. Mont Elon's not
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: back in the administration, but he's funding Republicans again. He's
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: you know, shut up about Trump being in the Epstein files,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: especially now that he's been revealed to also be significant
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: in Epstein files. So even just with that one relationship,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you can see how this year has been really been
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: quite a journey.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Been something else, hasn't it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I actually think the war stuff is important as well,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: because as we're on the brink of the potential war
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: with Iran, you know, we're going to talk about this
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: with Rokhana. There were and remember our interviews with some
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: of those AOC Trump voters in the Bronx. So I'm
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: not going to sit here and claim it was everybody,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: but there was genuine not just promise, but hope that
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: this person actually meant it. On the war in Ukraine, well,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: here Trump is a year ago. By the way, it's
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: the four year anniversary since Russia invaded Ukraine. It's been
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: a year now since Donald Trump spoke, and here he
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: is promising to end the war in Ukraine and nothing
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: has been ended.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: I'm also working tirelessly to end the savage conflict in Ukraine.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: Millions of Ukrainians and Russians have been needlessly killed or
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: wounded in this horrific and brutal conflict with no end
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: in sight. The United States has sent hundreds of billions
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: of dollars to support Ukraine's defense, with no security.
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: With no way.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: So yeah, where are we now?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: And it's actually really interesting, you know, even to think again,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I never believed we will solve it before I even
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: get into office. I think I genuinely did underestimate. There
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: are people who do believe stuff like that. You know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: whenever I think back to the election, I have met
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: like five people who actually believed that the IVF thing
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: was going to happen, And I'm like, come.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: On, man, you know, like, what are we doing here?
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: But they bought it. So, I mean apparently even in
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: the year twenty twenty four, there were a number of
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: voters who were like, oh, okay, I believe you whenever
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you say X, Y and Z.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Now again, you know, I don't think that that was realistic.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: But the Ukraine one is the one I actually did
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: think was more realistic because it wasn't. So I cannot
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: recall a single hawkish thing Trump said on the campaign trail.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: One of those most viral moments. What was it twenty
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: twenty three November, whenever he did the CNN town hall
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: with Caitlyn Collins and he's like, I want to stop it,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: like everything pick JD's as his vice president. I mean,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: it was a believable thing. Now again, I've always been
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: clear and even was at the time if you thought
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: that the Israel stuff wasn't going maybe not as much
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: like his has, but you know, it was obviously always
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: going to be pro Israel. But on Ukraine, I think
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: there really was hope. It has been a disaster. I mean,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: we have had the failed summit, remember in Anchorage in Alaska,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: and then Zelenski of what it was about a year ago, right,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: he was in the Oval and they got into a fight,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: and then he came back and now they're friends. And
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: now it's just like business as usual. We had all
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: the European leaders here. Nothing has changed the entire thing.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: It's like Afghanistan. It just keeps going on and on
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: and on and on, and it'll never end. It's been
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: four years to the day. It'll just keep going. Putin
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: in them or like as I said at the time,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: they don't care. They're like, look, we're happy to keep
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: this war going all day long. Fine, no problem, you
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: know for us, we'll talk about this soon with Iran.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: One of the reasons.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Chairman of the Joint chiefs of Staff says, hey, by
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: the way, it's a bit of a problem if we
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: do a war with Iran. We gave it all to
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Ukraine and Israel. Shocker. Only been saying that over here
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: for the last four years. So a year is a
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: long time. It also, you know, it's not that long,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: but it does feel like an eternity. I think since
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and I do think this speech will be
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: much more of a salesman's speech about trying to bring
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: people back into the fold. We saw Obama give many
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: of these state of the unions. When I remember at
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: twenty eleven, right after Obamacare, where his approval rating was
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: very low and he kept trying to like trying to
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: sell people a dream to keep it going. Trump is
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: not running for reelection. It's also a very different moment.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: But Trump has not been in this type of position
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: for a long time. And you know, he also famously
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: likes to go off prompter, So we'll see how that
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: works out there. Potentially could be some interruptions from Epstein,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: you know, of related stuff in the gallery, So who
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: knows how that will be. So there's you know, look
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: all the norms around politics, like when Joe Wilson shouted
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: at Obama like this stuff is gone right, you know.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: So we're living in a different universe, very eighteen nineties
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: in here.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Even though the Supreme Court justices, like Trump has pissed
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: at them right now, even some of the ones that
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: he put on the bench.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: So what are you saying?
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: He was like, He's like they're barely invited. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: and only nerds like me are like, sir, actually the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: House of Representatives invites the.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Guests, So yeah, not really your DESI it's actually not
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: your decision.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: You're technically invited by the State of the Union, by
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Congress because we have coegual branches of government.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But again, only idiots like.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, coegual branches of government. Lol.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: One o their on the sort of like broken promises list.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Remember in the campaign and then even after the campaign,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: he claimed he wanted to cap credit card interest rates,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and this was one of the populist promises. And there
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: are a few Democrats, like on the progressive side, Bernie
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: and Elizabeth Warren in particular, who are like, okay.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: But let's do it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Trump even called Elizabeth Warren at one point because she
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: was like, listen, I'll work with you on this. She
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: just came out and said, you know, after that, nothing
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: totally ghosted. You know, any efforts to put together some
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: sort of bipartisan proposal all day and gone. So, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: some of those like sort of sexy populist promises, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: that would be a significant one. I've just completely fallen
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: by the wayside as one example of how things have.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Shifted over the year.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But it'll be interesting to see what he tries to
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: persuade people of tonight. And I know he's going to
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: brag about all of this supposed investment in the US,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: which is just like the number is just completely invented.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I think there'll be a lot of gaslighting about a.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Lot of tariff talk.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: If I had to guess, there'll be a lot of
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: gaslighting about how great you know, America is back and
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: how great the economy is.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: And people are not going to believe.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: That because, as we've said many times in the past,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: like you have your own personal experience of the economy,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: so you know whether it's going well for you and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: your family and the prospects.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: For your kids or not.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And the last thing I'll mention, and we've got a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: lot more talk about this later in the show, is
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: the AI concerns, which I think it last year at
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: this point were pretty you know, they were pretty niche.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: It was, you know, we started talking, we were talking
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: about it some, there was some but now this has
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: become a really mainstream concern. There has been significant local activism.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: You know, we talked to one of those local activists yesterday.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: There has been a ground swell pushback against the location
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: of these data centers, and the politics of that keep
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: turning more and more toxic, even as the Trump administration
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: has made this truly a central push.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, this really is.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: The center of their economic policy and their idea for
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the future of the country. So I think that's another
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: thing that is very different in terms of the sensibility
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and awareness of the American people now versus last year
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: at this time.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting speech.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: If you're joining us, you can come torture yourselves by
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: being awake at eleven PM. Our reactionly no. But if
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: you're in California you can join us. I guess it'll
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: be eight o'clock for all of you. Let's go ahead
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and get to Iran. Turning now to the situation with Iran.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Huge leaks coming out of the Pentagon yesterday this time,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: if you want to believe this, the Pentagon is leaking
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: about how desperately they don't want to go to war
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: with Iran. That is how bad the current situation is.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: But Donald Trump is trying to head off all of
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: these leaks. Let's go and put this up here on
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: the screen. Here is Trump's truth yesterday. Numerous stories from
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: the fake news media have been circulating that General Daniel Kane,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: sometimes referred to as Raisin Kin, is against us going
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: to war with Iran. The story does not attribute his
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: vast wealth of knowledge to anyone and is one hundred
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: percent incorrect.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: General Kin, like all of.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Us, would like not to see war, but if a
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: decision is made on going against Iran at a military level,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: it is opinion that everything will be easily won. Bookmark
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: that for history he knows Iran well, and that he
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: was in charge of Midnight Hammer, the attacks on Iranian
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: nuclear development. It is a development no longer but rather
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: was smown blown to smithereens by our great be too bombers.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: So if that's the case, then why do we even
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: have to go to war?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: This is why everybody should actually read these things carefully.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Raisin Kain is a great fighter. He represents most powerful
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: military in the world. He has not spoken to not
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: doing Iran or even the fake limited strikes that I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: have been reading about. He only knows one thing, how
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: to win, and if he is told to do so,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: he will be leading the pack.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Quote. I would rather have a deal than not.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: But if we don't make a deal, it is a
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: very bad day for that country, and very sadly it's people,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: because they are great and wonderful and something like this
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: should never have happened to them. So this followed an
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: extraordinary amount of leaks that came out of the Pentagon.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Let's go and put these up here on the screen.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I want to kind of Washington explain you hear one story.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: That's one thing when you have Axios, the Washington Post,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: and the Wall Street Journal. Alright, this headline, Trump's top
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: general warns of Iran strike. Trump's top general foresees acute
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: risk and attack on Iran. Pentagon flags risk of a
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: major operation against Iran.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Here is what is happening.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: These are authorized leaks from the very very top of
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the Pentagon. What they want is to get on the
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: record as close as they can without going outside the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: chain of command, to say this is a really, really
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: bad idea. And if you actually read all of their warnings,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: it's if you've been watching this show, or if you've
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: been paying attention to the news, none of this will
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: be a shocker to you. They say, we have a
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: limited amount of air interceptors. We use twenty five percent
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: in the Twelve Day war. The hoo thies, we're a
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: huge problem because of our four year support now of Israel.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: And of Ukraine. We are dramatically low on munitions. They
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: point to a CSIS war game from twenty twenty three
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: which said that the United States would last one week
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: in terms of munitions if we were ever to get
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: into a war with China against Taiwan. Yeah, you think
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I'm joking. This is twenty twenty three. The situation's gotten worse.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: We've actually given more to Israel in Ukraine since that
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: time period, and the amount of spun spin up in
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: our defense industrial base has actually gone down, So you
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: can see that for them. They know, Look, we can
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: kidnap Maduro all day long, we can midnight hammer six
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: B two's the place with no real aerial defense or
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: any of that whatever, but a real war like ballistic
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: missiles flying around, which we saw in the Twelve Day
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: War that alone drained twenty five percent of our THAD interceptors.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: The Pentagon is doing everything they can to try and
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: have their eeriction Seki moment, and look, you know, bear
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: with me. It's a little bit of a trip down
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: memory lane. But back in two thousand and three, February
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: two thousand and three, the Army Chief of Staff Eeric
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Szechi was forced to testify before Congress before the invasion
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: of Iraq, and the Army Chief of Staff stunned America
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: and the world when he said it would take several
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: hundred thousand troops to invade Iraq successfully. The neocons like
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Mark Levin and you know Bill Crystal and the Bush
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: administration said he's a raving lunatic. It's an absolute lie,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: and they fired him. They forced him out of office.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: He was the Army Chief of Staff, but he was
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: trying to warn all of us. And there were multiple
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: other top generals internally, some even who resigned, people who
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: told the President to his face, this is a bad idea.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: They leaked as much as they could, but our media
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: was very propagandistic, just as it is right now. They
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: were trying their best to do something like this. The professionals,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: and remember these are not bleeding heart liberals, they're not
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: anti war like me. Dan Caine was one of the
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: foremost proponents of the Maduro raid. He knows the capabilities
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: of the US military. When you have these guys going
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: like please get us off, like do not make us
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: do this, it is a blaring like a flashing red light. Yeah,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: for the whole because nobody knows our capabilities more than them.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: So when they're warning like this, they're doing their best.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: First of all, they want to survive. They want to
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: be able to have the headline there in the future,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: so that when a Democrat comes into the power, they're like, listen, man,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: we tried to tell him.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He ordered us to do it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: But more importantly, they're trying to signal for those of
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: you who are close watchers and observers to say, this
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: is not going to go like the propaganda is. And
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: it's already happening. Mark Levin, it's been twenty something years,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: he's doing the same thing. These are Democrat deep state
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: isolationists trying to destroy. You have Trump now trying to
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: box the general in. He's going to try and force
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: him to go on the podium and say, actually, it's
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: going to be a cake. I hope he says the
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: word kakewalk I really do, just so we can have
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: all the Iraq stuff happen.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not claiming it's going to be the same as Iraq,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: but it's the same type of playbook. These are very
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: sophisticated actors. This is the biggest warning. And when again,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: when the professional warriors tell you this is a big,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: big problem. You should listen because what they're talking about
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: this isn't ideology. This is about logistics, This is about munitions,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: This is about defense industrial base. Nobody knows this better
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: than them. This is the most worrying thing that I've
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: seen yet. Yeah, because this means it's happening, in my.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Opinion, Yeah, this is like a desperate cry for help,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: a last ditch hail Mary pass to try to persuade
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Trump and whoever that this is going to be a
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: terrible idea. This is a warning to the American public.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: It's all of those things. And you know, I think
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: what the why the neocons are pushing so hard right
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: now is a few reasons. I mean, the Iranian government
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: is genuinely weakened at this point from the Twelve Day War,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: also from the the protests and the you know, the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: opposition movement, from the the economic warfare that we've waged
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: against against them has been quite successful. So they are
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: weakened in this moment. But are they weak enough where
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: you know, an airstrike will take out take down the government,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: because that's their fantasy is let's put aside all oh,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: nuclear ballistic blah blah blah. What they really are after
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: is regime change. And at the same time, the Israelis,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: who are obviously, you know, constantly pushing for war with Iran,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: and Netah has been pushing for war with Iran like
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: before you were literally born. Literally you can go back
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and watch the Qui from the eighties and but anyway,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: you know, they have their own sort of looming crises internally.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: You know, even though there was a lot of unity
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: around the Gaza genocide, the reality is they have major
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: demographic and major economic issues, and they've had a lot
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: of brain drain from their country. You know, the fastest
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: growing part of the Jewish population in Israel are you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: the type that don't want to serve in the military
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: and don't want to work and just rely on the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: social safety net. So they have their own timeline here
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: of like we've got to act now or else we're
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: not going to be able to cement our you know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: grander ambitions of the Greater Israel project and having total
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: regional hegemony, which is their ultimate goal. So they're pushing
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: very hard right now as well. And that's why you
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: see the Mark Levins of the world, the Lindsay Gram's
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the world, et cetera, sort of freaking out aggressively pushing
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: in this direction. But I think the reason there's been
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: hesitation at this point is because there's no I mean,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the whole thing is insane and it's going to be bad.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But even from their perspective, like there's no Delsi Rodriguez
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: type option that's available in run the thing we covered previously,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: This idea of oh, we'll do a limited strike and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: then that's going to force them to buckle to our demands.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: What even our fucking demands, right, I mean, they're constantly changing.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: The American people has not been bought into any sort of,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you know, ration for why we need this war with
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Iran right now? So you know, and the reality is
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a limited strike is likely to have the exact opposite impact.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It's going to harden the Iranian government against any sort
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: of deal. What you're going to bomb somebody, and you
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: think that's going to make them come to you, that's
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: going to you know, open them up to further talks,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. So yeah, I don't know. It's
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: looking pretty it's looking pretty grim. It seems very unlikely
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: that you amass this level of military power in the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: region to just to have fun, to spend money as
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a threat, and any of it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Venezuela is the playbook. Oh we're negotiating.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not Listen, all right, you don't just bring
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: carrier strike groups and all of this naval armada for
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the biggest build up of force in the Caribbean since
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: the Cuban missile crisis, just not to use it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Same with Iran.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: You've got two carrier strike groups, You've got all the bases,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: you had the evacuation just yesterday of non essential personnel
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: from Lebanon. You've got all this diplomacy, diplomacy, theater that's
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, basically what they're trying to do. It's very
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Iraq like.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: We give Saddam ninety days to resign, to let in
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: the inspectors, or hell will reign. It's not gonna happen,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: right Like you know eventually how the story is going
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: to end. This diplomacy is fake. This entire thing was
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: allegedly about the nuclear deal. The Iranians are said, fine,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: we'll do a nuclear deal. They're like, well, it also
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: has to deal with ballistic missiles in your regional terror threat,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: and they're like, no, we're not giving up our ballistic
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: missiles so that Israel can attack US at will at
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: any time that they want and regime change US at
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: will sometime in the future. It's why would they do.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: That's effectively surrendered. We might as well fight and actually
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: try to convince the Americans that we have some sort
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: of credible deterrent. I mean, this is where to highlight
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the Israeli problem here. It is immense because if it
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: was just up to the United States, I do believe
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that we could probably reach some sort of nuclear deal.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: But the Israel angle here is that you have this
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: rogue state which has now built up ye where they
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: have been bombing every seven different countries with total impunity,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: with diplomatic cover by the United States, with a population
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: with its blood you know, boiling ready and believing that
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: they can do anything, not only not to mention Gaza.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: And they're like, look, we're gonna do it no matter what.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: And so if they go in and attack Iran kind
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: of like in the Twelve Day War, what happens, We're
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: gonna get sucked in. And this is an argument, by
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: the way, from the neocons because they're like, oh, well,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: that's why we should just go ahead and do it
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: and defend Israel in the process. But the point around
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: it is, if we actually dealt with the Israel problem,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: we wondn't even have as much of an Iranian problem.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: But we can't get away from it. And it's I
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: was telling you this morning, it's like World War One.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Does anybody just sit for a second and just be like,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: do we have to defend Belgium?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Do we have to you know, decimate our.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Youth and kill millions of people just because of a
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: piece of paper, because we've always done things that way.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: But that's this is how it happens.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: You really, you know, you read about it, but this
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: is no nobody sits for a second and says, maybe
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: we just tell the Israelis you're done. If you do this,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: they will actually cut you off. Nobody in the White
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: House can even think this way. Nobody in the previous
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: White House could think this way either. Nobody in Congress
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: is even doing anything I talked about the Aaron Erik
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Shinzeki at least testified before Congress. Raisin Kin is leaking
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: the shit to the Wall Street Journal and to axios.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: We have no opposition, We have nothing like, if anything,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: this is ten times worse. We're sleepwalking, just like the
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: book the Sleepwalkers, right into this disaster. And you know,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: even though it's all out in the open, ninety nine
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: percent of Americans have no idea that this is going on.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: They're living their lives. You know, they're vaguely iran something.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: You know, it didn't bomb them before, but they have
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: no idea. They're going to wake up though, you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: when something like this happens, Yeah, it could all go
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: south like this.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And you have to layer on that the mentality of
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: they just did this Venezuela thing that they see as
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: this grand success. They see the Twelve Day War last
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: year as this grand success. There's nothing Trump loves more
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: than you know, his glorious soldiers going into battle and
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: him being able to like feel like a real man
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: based on what other people actions that other people.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Took, and you know he's itching for that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's you know, an important part of this
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: mentality is they feel like, oh, the naysayers like us previously,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: who were warning about all these dire consequences, they're just
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a bunch of Panicans. You know they were wrong. Everything
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: turn out fine, This was all great, and you know,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: this will be another glorious success for us to be
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: able to talk about and you know, take the focus
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: off of Epstein and the poor economic numbers and everything
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: else that's going on the you know, the ice killings,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: all of that stuff, and be able to have this
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: win and you know, assert our dominance heading into the
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: midterm elections. Kyle always brings up, and I think it's
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: worth pointing out. Trump during the Obama era used to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: talk constantly about how Obama was going to start a
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: war with a run to save his political prospects, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think that's worth like pausing on
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: because it does give you a window into how he
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: thinks about these things. He thinks it will be a benefit.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: He thinks there will be that rally around the flag
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: effect and it will help to bolster him and bolster
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: his party. I think that's insane, but based on his
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: past comments, I genuinely think he views it that way,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: especially when you pile on top of that the Venezuela
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: thing and the previous eroun war.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Bad science coming out of the White House.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Trump is truthing out Mark Levin videos while while we
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: got attackerro on, take a listen.
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: The problem is it negotiations. The problem isn't they won't
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: agree to this or that, or we can get the
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: best deal in world history.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: The problem is them.
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: The West needs to understand what we're dealing with for
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: forty seven years. I don't know what it's gonna take,
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: but we need to comprehend what we're dealing with. That
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: regime needs to be eliminated.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, that's what we're dealing with. Meanwhile,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: P four, let's put this up here on the screen.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson was spotted at the White House yesterday after
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: his explosive interview with the Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee. Way,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: very funny from that one, Mike huckabees interview. Full blown
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: diplomatic crisis and even a problem for the Iran situation because,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: as you pointed out yesterday, if you want to attack
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: you Ron, you got to use all these bases and
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: you've got to make sure that all the Gulf Arab
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: allies are on your side. Well, guess what the US
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: ambassador at Israel just said, Actually, all of that land
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and all of your countries that belongs to Israel if
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: they want it. And they have been calling the White
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: House and they're like, is this a statement of official
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: government policy?
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Are you going to repudiate this?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: What's happening here? Oh and you think you're going to
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: use my basis?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: No?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's not going to be happening here.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: So that's, you know, been some of the fallout. But look,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, we have to be honest here. The Tucker
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: faction thought and all of that, it's not ascendant right now,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: at least from what I can tell from the outside.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Put the next one up here, Laura Lumer immediately attacking
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson. Everybody needs to be pressuring the White House
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: to condemn Tucker his efforts to derail the GOP and
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: sabotage mus End. He thinks he can just walk into
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: the White House and he owns the place because his
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: son works there.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Everyone with moral clarity needs.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: To pressure the White House to end this insanity once
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: and for all. President Trump must condemn Tucker Flson, not
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: my Kuckabee, by the way, not the guy who literally,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: you know, started a full blown diplomatic crisis because of
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: his insane Christian feel because of his insane like dispensationalists,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: you know, psychotic beliefs. It's the guy who revealed those
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: beliefs that is a problem. I want to continue on
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: the munition side. I'll just point in to some experts.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Here's Tyler Rogaway. He runs a great outlet by the way,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: twz dot com. They do amazing like in depth, real
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: logistical nerd stuff.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And here's what he says.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: If this Iran thing really pops off, our stocks of
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: critical interceptors, which take years and huge sums of money
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: to build, will be really depleted. The stockpile is already
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: an emergency. If Iran goes full send SM three, that
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: interceptors pack threes will ran through once again.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: It takes years to restock. He says.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: It is a dangerous game with the state of China's
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: military activity, and then there's Russia that is beyond North Korea.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: We have never built a lot enough lots of smoke
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and mirrors, and now it is critical. This will send
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: it into another realm of crisis.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Just watch.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: You know. One of the dangers with open source is
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: that you actually start to learn, you know, how scared
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: like you start to learn if you read enough, you're like, wait,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: oh my god, we're really not prepared for this. You
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: have the CSIS war game from a couple of years ago,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: you have multiple generals on the record, you have the
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: fat stockpiled numbers, and you're.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Like, what a disaster.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Twenty five percent just spent on a twelve day war
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: which didn't even you know, involve US, and then not
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to mention all the short range stuff which the Iranians
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: could use.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Look, the US military is good, but is it that good?
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: You know, it's one of those where would you really
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: risk it?
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: And originally I thought, okay, well we're pretty good at
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: taking these things out and the CIA and you know
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: from all of that. But once the top general starts
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: to speak out, I'm like, oh, this is bad.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Clearly they see some.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't have all the information they do,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: and for them to come out and to leak this,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I really I urge everyone to take this Sparrige very seriously.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Like these people, like I said, the guy who literally
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: supported the kidnapp operation against Maduro, he says it's a
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: bad idea.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: You should listen.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: These are not liberals or you know some they're not
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: like bleeding heart liberal code pink activists or intervention an
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And listen, I think the Iranian government is weak.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the capabilities they have, but we
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: also shouldn't underestimate their will to fight, because for us,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: this isn't existential.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: This is like a.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Stupid luxury war of choice for the president's ego that
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: almost no one wants. Okay, it's eighty percent of the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: US population.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: It's like, no, we don't.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Want this at all, in spite of you know whatever
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: war propaganda's constantly fed to us about, you know, how
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: terrible Iran is, what a threat it is. Like Mark
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Levin said to our children and a grandchildren, blah blah blah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: like we don't have the will to fight this thing.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: And Iran, you know, it's in a very strategic position.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: They know the cards that they have, and they also
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: we'll be looking and understanding this information about the drawdown
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: of our stockpiles and understanding where some of our vulnerabilities
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: are and where some of Israel's vulnerabilities are as well.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: So and you know, things are not going to too great.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I guess in terms of mechanics in the build up
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: to this potential work of B seven up on the screen.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: We are already taxing our sailors incredibly. You have people
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: who are potentially going to be deployed for eleven months,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: it would be the longest deployment for you know, sailors
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: on this US S gerald Ford for in years. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: you also have issues on the ship apparently that some
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: of the toilets are clogged and there's like raw sewage.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Apparently they've gotten some of this under control, but it's
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: been a mess, and a bunch of people who are
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: quoted in this piece in the Wall Street Journal are like,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: after this, I'm done. Like I have kids, and this
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: is I don't don't want to be away from them
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: for years at a time. This is not my understanding
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of what we were going to be up to. So
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: even putting aside, you know, the stock piles, like, there's
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: been a human cost already for all the various adventurism
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: from the Trump admistry.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean, you know, oh it's so funny.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Ha ha ha, Oh you signed up for this. It's
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: not funny you put these guys on it. But car
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: you know, look, it's not fun you've ever been on
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: a carrier, like I've only been.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: On the decommissioned ones.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: It's small, and you got to sleep in these barracks
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: and if the toilet breaks, that's life or death.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Man, that sounds like a disaster.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: And you're gone for eleven months shuttling yourself across the
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: globe for a bunch of nonsense. Now you've been there,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: and you might be getting into a war for NonStop operations.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, and these are what like nineteen twenty year
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: olds and all that who signed up had no idea
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: potentially they were getting into. This is why it's not
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: a game, right to play around with their lives and
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: just shuttle them back and forth all to put pressure
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: or potentially just put them into war for Israel.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I mean everyone is always like, oh, you know, it's
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: almost a low IQ conspiracy, Like oh, America is always
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: getting into a war on Israel's behalf, Like, guys, this
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: one actually is it? Like this is the big one.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: This is the big one.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: And unfortunately, like I said, Washington, everybody's going along the Democrats,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: there's nobody out there silence war powers act. Shout out
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: to Massy and Rocana, but like that's going to be
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: like a Barbelee situation in terms of we can look
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: back on in history, but at the time they're complete,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you know, they're jokes.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: That's how people look at them.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bipartisan elite is they're either silent because they wanted
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: to go wrong or they support it.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just one note on the impact of that
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: morale and fatigue.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Remember one of those like fighter.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Jets slid into the sea when the HUFY operation. Yes,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: the after action report, the analysis there was that you know,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: fatigue basically played into that. That's the reason why they
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: were you know, like making whatever errors were causing these
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: fire jets to be lost at sea. So you know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: can have real operational impacts as we head into whatever
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: we're heading into.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Yep, there you go.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to Epstein. Turning now to the
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: fallout from the Epstein files. Lord Mandelsson in the UK
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: has been arrested. Let's go and put this video up
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: here on the screen. You can see the purp walk
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: of him being led from his brick mansion, you know,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: in his stately outfit there of what befits a British
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: lord being led by the Metropolitan police into a waiting car. Now,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Remember the British system is weird, and for some reason
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: they don't just say so and so has been arrested.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: But we do know.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: See one, let's put that up here on the screen.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: You can see right here. Lord Mandlsson was arrested on
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: suspicion of conduct in public office a short while ago,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: the former minister being led from his London home to
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: an unmarked car by police officers. The x US ambassadors
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: under investigation over allegations he shared market sensitive government information
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: with Jeffrey Epstein while a government minister. He has not
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: yet publicly commented on the matter. But you know, to
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: say allegedly shared is not even true like he shared it.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: It's in the fine So the only thing the email, right,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the only defense is is it where you hacked?
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: And do that?
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Can you pull a joy read and say Russian hackers
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: in twenty ten actually sent the email on behalf of
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: privileged non public information? Or did you send it, bro,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: because I'm pretty sure you sent it. Now what's even
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: crazier is that's only the tip of the iceberg. Gordon
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Brown has said he's already shared more information with the
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: with the current authorities. There could be all kinds that
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: we're thinking about. Epstein files is just Epstein and his emails.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: They have access to his real email. So if they
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: could subpoena and look at all of their stuff and
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: shared over with the authorities, could be the tip of
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: the iceberg. If a person's willing to share non public
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: market information with one person, you really think they've never
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: done it before? Or is this maybe a ring where
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: this happened one time and we just so happened to
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: get the email in this one point again, you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: for the British authorities, I don't have any proof of that.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: I'm only speculating, not even necessarily impugning the character of
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: the Great Lord. But you know, for when you think
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: about how this has exploded across the world and comparing
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: it here, it's unbelievable. You have now Lord Mandleson and
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew is going to literally lose his
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: line in the British succession, which but that's the prince
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: ship that I'm talking about. That's what I want to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: see is if we're going to have the institution, then
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: we got to be like, declare his blood unworthy of
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: sitting on the throne. But now you have Lord A Manersson,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: he might get getting his title stripped. He's going to jail,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: potentially getting arrested. You have the former Norwegian prime minister.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: He just tried to commit suicide. Apparently there was just
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: a report out this morning. I mean, you've got multiple
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: of these of Slovakia, you've had that official here in
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: the US. Former governor is just got some professional consequence.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Peter Atia. By the way, we can give an update
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and see six. Let's put that on the screen.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: He has he either resigned or he's no law At
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: CBS News over this correspondence, we have the leaders of
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Apollo Group, of that major law firm here in Washington.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: All of these people have stepped down. But all of
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: the accountability in America is in the private sector. Yeah,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: and over there it's the official governments who are the
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: French authorities. They're reopening the investigation into the suicide of
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Jean Luc Brunel and his suspicious debt. In addition to
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: raiding the offices of file of people named in the files,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: the Macron government being mentioned in the Epstein files actually
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: caused like kind of a political earthquake over here over there,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: but here it's like business as usual, and I think
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: that's just what I want to highlight.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two points to make about this. Number One,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: all these various investigations that now have been launched around
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the world are going to be really important, because not
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: just in the case of Mandelssohn, but in France and
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: other countries around the world where they've actually taken this seriously,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you are going to have some sort of discovery process
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: where you're going to see war, where you're going to
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: learn war. So in effect, you'll have more or Epstein
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: files that are released as a result of the actions
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: in these various countries. The other thing that I was
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: thinking about is like it makes me a little bit
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: more sympathetic towards Cancel culture because that's literally the only
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: elite accountability that we apparently have in this country, and
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: that's the only mechanism we have. That's the only reason
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Kathy Rumbler, the Pritzker guy, or Peter Attilla or any
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: of these people are having to face anything, because there's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: not We've already been told from the government we're not
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: going to do any criminal investigation.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: This is done.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: We're you know, closed we're not releasing and we have
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: any more files. We don't want to talk about it anymore.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: We don't think there's anything to investigate here. We don't
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: think there's anything prosecuted here, you know, within our own government,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: let alone, you know, among any other business leaders.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: We are moving on. Nothing to see here.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: So essentially our only real recourse is through shame and
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: pressure of various corporate entities to try to make people
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: who are implicated loose their jobs. That's all this public has.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: So you can see why there has been in the past,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you know, and I think currently with this in the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: context of Epstein files, why there has been such a
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: frenzy around these type of pressure campaigns because there's no
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: hope that there's going to be any sort of like
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: criminal justice account.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: That's the problem though, right is yeah, and this was
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: always the criticism of cancel culture is like, look, you're
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: literally going after like a podcast host or a comedian
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: while people who are in power are facing nothing. It's
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: like literally an inversion of the way that democracy is
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: supposed to work.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Well, here you go, this is the same problem.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: You've got Peter Tia, Who's look, I mean, yeah, it's
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: creepy emails, all right, And like I said, I'm sketched
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: out by it. Going to take everything he says from
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: now on with the grain of salt. It's really disgusting.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: But it's not the same as former governors and presidents.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: And right now, the Commerce Secretary.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: For the President of the United States, the guy.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Who's talking to me about Mett Foreman, you know, sent
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: a really discussing, creepy email to Epstein faces some professional
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: consequences like okay, but the guy who sets the tariff
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: policy of the United States of America lied about his relationship.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: That's kind of a whole other story, you know, and
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: for him and then not just that, he said, oh well,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: I never what do you say. I visited the island
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: and I had lunch with him years after I said
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I was never going to see him again. That's pretty
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: different in terms of accountability. But for some reason, because
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: we know that we can't have any accountability at the top,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: that we try to search for it with all of
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: the former governors. I'm like, sorry, I don't care about
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: the former I mean I do, but not in the
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: same way as what's happening or.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: It's a head of a law firm or righting like that.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Sure, it's good, fine, but it's not the same as
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: actually looking at the top.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And that's that's the problem I have.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, cancel culture is a form of like digital
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: vigilante justice basically. And you can understand why in a
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: time when you feel like the justice system, why there's
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: clearly different rules for different people depending on you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: whether you're part of the Epstein class or whether you're not.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: And you know, and that's that's how you end up
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: with a mass system of vigilante justice. And I continue
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: to maintain that one of the one of the major
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: problems in this country has to be dealt with going
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: forward is the total elite impunity that had been enjoyed
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: over decades. You know, if you go back to the
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Iraq War lies, if you go back to the financial
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: crisis and the fact that you know, these bankers destroyed
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: the entire conomy, ruined millions of people's lives, people who
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: still haven't recovered from what happened to them in that crisis,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: and there's no accountability there. And then you get this
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: little window into a completely depraved network that operated, you know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: above the reach of any sort of nation state, any
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: sort of system of laws. If you don't grapple with that,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: you are going to continue to.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Have societal breakdown.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: There has to be some sense that even elites are
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: subject to some sort of accountability for their malfeasance. And
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: so I think Americans are looking at the Brits with
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: jealousy right now. You know, you've got literal royals facing
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: more accountability than our supposed you know, democratic administration here,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Like we're supposed to be the no kings people, right,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: and yet the actual royals facing more accountability and justice
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: than you know, are representative.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: See, I've been defending the monarchy for a long time, Crystal,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: this is wine.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm coming around on that one.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: You have hundreds of years and a culture of accountability.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: This is what happened.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: All the Brits are going to be furious and the
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Indians are going to be mad at me about that
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: one too. But look, fundamentally, I love separation, you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: of the head of state and the head of government.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I just think it's an amazing system works out well
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: for a lot of people.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: I just want the free healthcare.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Well, you know that.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: One's the more complicated for there. Let's go to the
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: next one. Shall we just to show you fall from
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: grace from the great Lord of Lord Mandelsson.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: This one is C two.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Here he is just nine months ago in the Oval
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Office presenting his credentials to Donald Trump. He was a lord,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: he was the ambassador. If you've never seen it, the
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: British residence ambassador here in Washington is like a country
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: estate with a little garden lawn, and it's a palatial mansion.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: They whine and dine, the Washington elite. And that's where
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: he was not that long time ago. And here he
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: is now being led away, literally into a waiting police card.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: We also did want to update a few emails which
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: have come across our desk. Let's put this one up
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: here on the screen. This is a pretty crazy one.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Perhaps a slip of the tongue. Twenty twenty one, year
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: after Epstein died, an assistant US Attorney for the Eastern
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: District discussed as a confidentiality agreement quote in connection with
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: the investigation into the murder of Jeffrey Epstein, Perhaps.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: A slip of the tongue.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: He says into the death of an inmate at Brooklyn, MDC,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: the OCME, I'm assuming that's a medical examiner told me
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: it's signed a confidentiality agreement in connection with the investigations
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: and the murder of Jeffrey Epstein. We were hoping to
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: extend a similar agreement, and I wanted to see if
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: you could share the agreement or boilerplate version of it.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I'm happy to speak over the phone if that's easier.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: My cell is X.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: So basically, he says, we're going to give this deal
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: to another inmate, but this is about the investigation into
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: the murder of Jeffrey Epstein, hoping if there's similar agreement
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: it's in place. Here's why it's a little bit suspicious,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: not just the word murder. Clearly, this is an investigation
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: into the death which they think is a murder. And
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: he's referring to the other to the death of Epstein
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: as a murder, which it maybe it was considered that
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: at some time. Now, remember the official conclusion is suicide.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: But they never even claimed that they investigated a murder.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: They ruled suicide from day one, basically from the from
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: the very first you know, announcement.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: From the press release that ro drafted.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, man, I mean, this is pretty crasty.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, could be that when they drafted that press
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: release announcing his death, they just messed up on the.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Date, and which is actually believable, just.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Happened to mess up here as well and call it
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: a murder even though it was totally definitely a suicide.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: And it just happened. The cameras didn't work, and it
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: just happen when they.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Put out the video that supposedly proved that there was
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: nothing to see there, there was, you know, not one
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: a person in the video that they claimed that they
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: pretended wasn't there, and there were minutes missing, and the
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: guards happened to be asleep and etcetera, etcetera.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: And you know, people who look at the body say
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: this cook the cameras.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we never found the news. But yeah, that
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: all makes a lot of sense. That all just really
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: just a comedy of errors.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: That's all it is. It's just nothing to see here. Soder.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Let's go to C four. This is
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: another interesting story. This one came out yesterday from Ryan
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Goodman over at Just Security.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: They're like a legal blog, and they looked into some
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: of this.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: They say the FBI issued a stand down directive to
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: the NYPD on Jeffrey Epstein investigation. More five days after
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Epstein's arrests in summer of twenty nineteen, federal authorities directed
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: the New York Police Department to stand down it's investigations
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: related to Epstein. New documents released show the directive applied
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: to the NYPD Special Victims Unit, the group that was
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: specially trained and equipped to handle sex crimes. At the time,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: the Manhattan DA had an ongoing investigation with the Epstein victims,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: but the FBI assumed that would come into a halt
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: as well following the bureau's directive. Revelations are part of
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: the chronology, which spans nineteen ninety sixty two thousand and five.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: The timeline amounts to the most comprehensive record to date
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: of the publicly available information of New York law enforcement
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: authorities actions and inaction whenever it regards Epstein, and is
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: provided below. You can read very specifically, not only the
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: origination of the claiming about Maria Farmer, but then the
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: NYPD stand down order, and sometime around twenty twelve, Epstein
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: and one of his victim's assistants actually discussed NYPD contacting
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: her and so you have this year's long kind of
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: investigation and discussion with Epstein, the NYPD who's constantly kind
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: of monitoring this case and potentially getting involved until they
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: get this federal stand down directive. Now again, we always
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: got to present the innocent explanation. Anybody ever watched a
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: cop show, there's always terf wur you don't want them
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: to get involved.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: It's it's possible, it's possible.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: But like you said, with the murder investigation, you're like, well,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: you know, if you look at it as a one
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: off shirt, but if you put the totality of it
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: at all, it's a little bit it's a bit sketchy, right,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: And so that's why I think this is worth highlighting
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this was, you know, during the first Trump administration.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Bill Barr is ag.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: His dad is the one who hires Jeffrey Epstein when
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: he's wildly unqualified for his first job at the elite
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Dalton School. So he's put in contact with the children
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: of Manhattan's elites. And you know, that's the era that
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: we're talking about here in terms of AG Bill Barr
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: being in place and Trump being the president at the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: time that this standdown order is ultimately issue