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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the Front.
- 0:05Speaker 2: I'm Kristin Amiot. It's Monday, December twenty nine, twenty twenty five.
- 0:12Speaker 2: The voices that defined summer for generations of Australians Richie Benno,
- 0:17Speaker 2: Tony Greg, Bill Lourie and others. Now a new generation
- 0:21Speaker 2: of cricket commentators is heralding the game into a new,
- 0:25Speaker 2: high tech and sometimes hilarious era. Today, The Australians Media
- 0:30Speaker 2: editor and big time cricket fan James Madden reflects on
- 0:33Speaker 2: cricket's storied.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Broadcast history and the path forward.
- 0:37Speaker 2: For one of the nation's favorite games. So, James, most
- 0:45Speaker 2: listeners to the Front will know you as The Australian's
- 0:47Speaker 2: media editor. But last time we talked about cricket broadcasting
- 0:51Speaker 2: on the Front, it was also revealed you have a
- 0:53Speaker 2: pretty solid Richie Beno impression.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Yes, it was a It was an overcast in Melbourne
- 1:01Speaker 3: and the Victorians were sent into bat after losing the toss.
- 1:06Speaker 4: They're in early trouble at about two to thirty.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I believe you can tell a lot about a person
- 1:12Speaker 2: by who they think is the voice of the summer.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Who is that for you? When it comes to the cricket.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Great question and you know, if you'd asked any Australian
- 1:21Speaker 3: twenty years ago, it would have been Richie alongside his comrades,
- 1:25Speaker 3: Tony Bill all the rest of the gang.
- 1:28Speaker 5: It's two for two through two right shut off, a
- 1:32Speaker 5: big right over the top the little mans.
- 1:36Speaker 4: It's a big gulla for six.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Gone again. Oh there she goes. That's a twelve and.
- 1:42Speaker 5: Live roller would have about as much of an effect
- 1:44Speaker 5: as a couple of Koala bears doing the part of
- 1:46Speaker 5: the come more football.
- 1:48Speaker 2: He's put his foot straight down the line, the ball
- 1:51Speaker 2: swung down the line.
- 1:52Speaker 5: There it is great moment history of Australian Test cricket.
- 1:56Speaker 1: It's been a marvel's game here.
- 1:59Speaker 3: But these days, in the last decade cricket commentary has
- 2:01Speaker 3: really evolved and some of the technology used in some
- 2:04Speaker 3: of these cricket broadcasts is phenomenal. And it's not just
- 2:08Speaker 3: you know nicks on the bat or ball tracking technology.
- 2:11Speaker 3: It's whether or not the batsman his body is in
- 2:13Speaker 3: the right position to actually be playing a certain shot.
- 2:16Speaker 4: It's crazy.
- 2:17Speaker 3: So the technology has added a lot and it's come
- 2:20Speaker 3: a long way since Tony Gregg used to stick the
- 2:22Speaker 3: key in the pitch to determine if there were cracks
- 2:25Speaker 3: or if there was moisture in the wicket. These days
- 2:27Speaker 3: you've got the lights of Adam Gilchrist Mark Wore, both
- 2:31Speaker 3: those guys on Foxtel alongside others. Seven's got Ricky Ponting,
- 2:36Speaker 3: Matthew Hayden, Justin Langer. ABC Radio has got Darren Lehman,
- 2:40Speaker 3: who not only a former Test player but also former coach.
- 2:43Speaker 3: So a lot of these former players of the later generation,
- 2:47Speaker 3: after the Benot's and the Chapels and the Greggs and
- 2:49Speaker 3: the Lorries, it's almost as if the next generation of
- 2:53Speaker 3: former players and now at the forefront of commentary. And
- 2:56Speaker 3: that's a pretty great thing because they have of unparalleled
- 3:01Speaker 3: insight into the game. To take nothing away from the
- 3:04Speaker 3: commentators such as Jim Maxwell, who is on ABC Radio
- 3:07Speaker 3: and has been fantastic for decades.
- 3:10Speaker 5: Paddy Hoardy, everybody here, we are having a bit of fun,
- 3:13Speaker 5: aren't we. That's you love wickets falling in games of cricket.
- 3:16Speaker 4: But people might recall Shane Warn.
- 3:19Speaker 3: A lot of people probably have forgotten since his death
- 3:23Speaker 3: how great a commentator he was. He could see the
- 3:26Speaker 3: game two steps ahead, more so than probably anyone I've
- 3:30Speaker 3: ever heard. So not only was he our greatest Test bowler,
- 3:33Speaker 3: he's also probably one of our great commentators, but that's forgotten.
- 3:36Speaker 3: So I think, given that the game has changed a
- 3:38Speaker 3: lot since the sixties and seventies, it's great to have
- 3:41Speaker 3: more modern commentators in a way calling the game.
- 3:46Speaker 2: We've also seen as great of the women's game have
- 3:49Speaker 2: retired and moved into commentary.
- 3:50Speaker 1: We've had Lisas Delaka, Isha Gua.
- 3:53Speaker 2: We've even got between games the current Women's Test captain
- 3:56Speaker 2: Alyssa Heay jumping into the country box.
- 3:59Speaker 1: How do you think that's in acted the way people
- 4:01Speaker 1: watch cricket.
- 4:02Speaker 3: The women's game itself has just gone from strength to strength.
- 4:05Speaker 3: It's amazing, and it's on all the time. Like the
- 4:07Speaker 3: Big Bash. The women's Big Bashes too, seems to be
- 4:10Speaker 3: always on, which is fantastic.
- 4:12Speaker 4: Who doesn't love cricket every day of.
- 4:13Speaker 2: The year and they I believe it was a couple
- 4:15Speaker 2: of years ago the men's Big Bash season was shortened
- 4:18Speaker 2: because just the amount of cricket that they are playing
- 4:20Speaker 2: at the moment, but the women elected to keep that
- 4:23Speaker 2: longer season.
- 4:24Speaker 1: They are playing dozens of games every.
- 4:26Speaker 3: Summer and it's rating ats socks off too, which is interesting.
- 4:30Speaker 3: So there's a real appetite to watch the women's game.
- 4:35Speaker 3: The fact that there's so many female commentators is also
- 4:38Speaker 3: brilliant for the game, both the men's and the women's.
- 4:40Speaker 3: And I can remember it was a long time ago,
- 4:42Speaker 3: back in the eighties there was a lady called Kate
- 4:45Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick who briefly had a role on the Channel nine
- 4:49Speaker 3: commentary team and all hell broke loose. It was a
- 4:52Speaker 3: different time, but of course there was all this predictable
- 4:55Speaker 3: criticism that what would a woman know.
- 4:57Speaker 4: About cricket all the rest of it.
- 4:58Speaker 3: That narrative is so far gone thankfully now and we've
- 5:03Speaker 3: got men and women commentating across men and women's games
- 5:08Speaker 3: and it's fantastic and it's good for the listener and
- 5:11Speaker 3: the watcher too.
- 5:12Speaker 1: What do you think it is about the cricket commentary
- 5:15Speaker 1: that is unique?
- 5:16Speaker 2: Obviously you need people who can both entertain and bring
- 5:21Speaker 2: those really deep insights that you mentioned, sometimes up to
- 5:24Speaker 2: five days, unless it's England in the first Ashes test.
- 5:27Speaker 2: What is it about the cricket commentary that makes it
- 5:30Speaker 2: different from other sports?
- 5:32Speaker 3: The key difference is you've got to fill in the gaps.
- 5:34Speaker 3: I suppose, like any sport, you've got to be able
- 5:36Speaker 3: to call the action, and people do it differently. Richie
- 5:39Speaker 3: had that beautiful, understated manner, and then there's someone like
- 5:42Speaker 3: James Brayshaw on Channel seven and Triple M who's great,
- 5:46Speaker 3: but he becomes hysterical at times, which is entertaining. But
- 5:50Speaker 3: it's very far removed from cricket commentary of the past.
- 5:54Speaker 3: But I think the one factor across all the commentators
- 5:58Speaker 3: is that you need to be able to talk and talk,
- 6:00Speaker 3: because I think there's a statistic once that about eighty
- 6:04Speaker 3: percent of the game of a day's test cricket, nothing
- 6:06Speaker 3: is happening. There is no live action, so that's eighty
- 6:09Speaker 3: percent of seven hours where you have to talk. And
- 6:11Speaker 3: obviously everyone's been in the car and they've listened to
- 6:14Speaker 3: ABC and Triple AM and even back in the Channel
- 6:16Speaker 3: nine Bill Laurie used to talk about the pigeons and
- 6:19Speaker 3: that sort of thing, and on ABC Radio there's a
- 6:22Speaker 3: lot of talk about birthday cakes and where the commentators
- 6:25Speaker 3: had dinner the previous night, and it's actually very entertaining
- 6:30Speaker 3: of itself, nothing to do with cricket a lot of
- 6:32Speaker 3: the time, So it's entertainment. You have to entertain for
- 6:36Speaker 3: seven hours. And all these guys and girls that I've
- 6:39Speaker 3: mentioned in the commentary positions, they know cricket inside out.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Can they add that entertainment factor? Not all of them can,
- 6:47Speaker 3: but the very good ones have to.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Sometimes.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I think it's what is not said as well that
- 6:52Speaker 2: is equally powerful. We all saw Stuart Broad's face in
- 6:55Speaker 2: the broadcast of the first Ashes Test in November. It
- 6:59Speaker 2: was just that look of pure I would say humiliation.
- 7:03Speaker 2: He might not say that, maybe regret for some of it,
- 7:05Speaker 2: despair some of the comments.
- 7:07Speaker 1: That he'd made.
- 7:08Speaker 2: The former player most recently added to some of the
- 7:11Speaker 2: commentary teams has been David Warner. He only retired last summer.
- 7:15Speaker 2: How's he faring and what do you think he brings
- 7:17Speaker 2: to the mix?
- 7:18Speaker 3: The interesting thing I suppose about Dave Warner is, as
- 7:20Speaker 3: you say, he's not even twelve months out of the game,
- 7:23Speaker 3: so he is expected, obviously to offer at times fairly
- 7:28Speaker 3: harsh appraisals of players with whom twelve months ago he
- 7:32Speaker 3: was sharing a dressing room. There was a moment in
- 7:34Speaker 3: the Pertest I think where there was controversy surrounding was
- 7:37Speaker 3: been Kwaja and whether or not he should retain his
- 7:40Speaker 3: place in the team. And Warner was who was a
- 7:43Speaker 3: great mate of Cowaja's, indeed a childhood friend of Cowaja's.
- 7:47Speaker 3: I thought handled it quite well, was fairly diplomatic, but
- 7:50Speaker 3: pointing out the challenges that Kwaja faces. So that's something
- 7:53Speaker 3: that somebody like Warner and even some of the other
- 7:55Speaker 3: commentators who haven't been out of the game so long
- 7:58Speaker 3: have to traverse. It's only natural they don't want to
- 8:01Speaker 3: dump on their mates publicly, but at the same time
- 8:05Speaker 3: they're paid and paid well to offer pretty strident analysis
- 8:10Speaker 3: of what's going on.
- 8:11Speaker 4: That's a tricky thing for some commentators.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting when Osmond Kwaja was off
- 8:17Speaker 2: the field and therefore not able to open the batting
- 8:19Speaker 2: for Australia in the Perth Test, that he actually told
- 8:24Speaker 2: a story where he said, this has happened to.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Me, and in a way that goes to what we
- 8:28Speaker 3: were saying before in terms of filling the space of
- 8:30Speaker 3: a broadcast. Some of these ex cricket players, and they've
- 8:33Speaker 3: all got so many stories, even if it's so keep
- 8:36Speaker 3: talking about how he drank twelve beers with Rod Marshall
- 8:39Speaker 3: on the eve of a test or Daby want to
- 8:41Speaker 3: talking about some technicality is a game. It fills the
- 8:44Speaker 3: space because there are so many stories that accompany this
- 8:47Speaker 3: game and these ex players. It's Taylor made for a
- 8:52Speaker 3: few back in my day stories.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Someone. We cannot have this conversation in this day and
- 9:00Speaker 2: age without talking about someone who's become a bit of
- 9:03Speaker 2: a cult hero online, and that's Kerry Okey, also known
- 9:06Speaker 2: as Skull. What do you make of the particular brand
- 9:10Speaker 2: of chaos the Skull brings to the commentary.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Well, probably he was launched off the back of his
- 9:17Speaker 3: unique laugh.
- 9:19Speaker 1: And nobody laughs at Skull's jokes.
- 9:21Speaker 4: He as much a skull, That's true. That's true, and
- 9:23Speaker 4: there's a certain skill to that as well.
- 9:25Speaker 5: If I could talk technically, Jim, this pitch is drier
- 9:28Speaker 5: than a Teetotler's Christmas.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Is brilliant addition to any commentary team he's on. Obviously,
- 9:36Speaker 3: he cut his teeth as a commentator with ABC going
- 9:40Speaker 3: back quite some time, and now he's a real staple
- 9:42Speaker 3: of Fox Tell, a very important team member. I suppose
- 9:45Speaker 3: he plays in a way the court jester role. But
- 9:48Speaker 3: again he's a former test player of some note and
- 9:51Speaker 3: has brilliant insights into the game. I think the brilliance
- 9:54Speaker 3: of him is that when he's doing a piece to
- 9:56Speaker 3: camera or even offering commentary, you're never quite sure it's
- 10:00Speaker 3: there's going to be a real, really inappropriate gag or
- 10:03Speaker 3: just a real zinger at the end of a sense,
- 10:05Speaker 3: or if it's just going to peter out into a
- 10:07Speaker 3: fairly normal observation.
- 10:09Speaker 5: It's a special day because people come for it. It's
- 10:11Speaker 5: a reunion day, and there's a buzz in the crowd
- 10:15Speaker 5: prior to the first ball, and everybody watches the first
- 10:18Speaker 5: session and then they go drinking out the bag. So
- 10:26Speaker 5: keep the crowd shots tight for the second and third session.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Coming up.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Why broadcasters still want the cricket.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Last time we talked about the cricket broadcasting in general, well,
- 11:00Speaker 2: there was a big question mark over who would get
- 11:02Speaker 2: the broadcast rights that, as I understand it is now
- 11:05Speaker 2: locked in for the next few years. We've got Channel
- 11:07Speaker 2: seven has the free to air rights, Fox Sports is
- 11:10Speaker 2: on streaming, and then ABC Grandstand has the radio broadcast rights.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Is the cricket and particularly the longer formats, which some
- 11:18Speaker 2: people might argue are falling out of favor with viewers.
- 11:21Speaker 1: For something faster, more entertaining like T twenty.
- 11:24Speaker 4: Is it still.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Attractive to broadcast has given just the sheer volume of
- 11:28Speaker 2: it and the sheer length of it.
- 11:30Speaker 3: Absolutely, Test cricket is valuable to broadcasters. Last season when
- 11:34Speaker 3: Australia played India in five Tests out here, that did
- 11:37Speaker 3: amazing numbers for TV and radio, and then certainly in
- 11:41Speaker 3: the first Test in Perth, even though it only lasted
- 11:43Speaker 3: two days, I think it was up sixty percent on
- 11:46Speaker 3: the India Test the same time twelve months back, so
- 11:50Speaker 3: those numbers are astonishing. It was unfortunate for the broadcasters
- 11:53Speaker 3: Seven and Foxtel that was only two day tests in
- 11:56Speaker 3: Perth because they would have lost advertising revenue and eyeballs
- 12:01Speaker 3: and momentum and all of that.
- 12:02Speaker 4: But cricket is very valuable.
- 12:04Speaker 3: The three big sports rights in Australia are AFL, NRL
- 12:08Speaker 3: and cricket. Crickets unique insofar as when India or England
- 12:14Speaker 3: are in Australia it's an absolute bonanza. They are the
- 12:18Speaker 3: two biggest Test playing nations apart from Australia and obviously
- 12:22Speaker 3: they attract a lot of support given for a start,
- 12:24Speaker 3: the number of Indian supporters out here and same with England,
- 12:27Speaker 3: and it's always competitive. So when those teams are out
- 12:30Speaker 3: here in our summer, it's a gold mine for the broadcasters.
- 12:35Speaker 3: When you've got teams that don't have as much support,
- 12:39Speaker 3: let's say Pakistan, West Indies, South Africa, New Zealand, those
- 12:42Speaker 3: summers by the broadcasters are considered down summers because they're
- 12:46Speaker 3: just not in the same ballpark as in India England series.
- 12:49Speaker 3: So I suppose with the broadcast rights it's never going
- 12:52Speaker 3: to be gangbusters every single season, but increasingly Australia is
- 12:57Speaker 3: playing India more often, so that helps the coffers of
- 13:01Speaker 3: the broadcasters and of Cricket Australia.
- 13:04Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
- 13:13Speaker 2: James Madden is The Australian's Media editor. You can read
- 13:16Speaker 2: all the latest in the cricket right now at the
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