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Married to Medicine Mess: Toya & Eugene Sound Off · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Ninni Leeks and Carlos King are going on tour, starting
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  Speaker 1: with a two city stop in February. On Tuesday, February
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourth, we are headed to Rally, North Carolina. On Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: February twenty sixth, we are headed to Nashville, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: Tickets are on sale now, make sure you get them
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  Speaker 2: before they sell out. See you there.
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows, from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from The
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think that this is.
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  Speaker 1: The century or the decade of my vindication because I've
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  Speaker 1: been saying for years that Meriton Medicine is the best
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  Speaker 1: showing Bravo that y'all not watching. I said that years ago,
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  Speaker 1: but now y'all watching it and not everybody loves it
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  Speaker 1: and now I'm here with somebody because she's wearing a
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  Speaker 1: coat due to the fact that her back hurts because
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  Speaker 1: she's been carrying the season.
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  Speaker 3: Give it up, Toya, bunch hair, not carrying the season.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I can't do it alone. So you out to
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  Speaker 4: my castmates. I love my friends. My castmates, y'all are amazing.
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  Speaker 4: My producers, man, we had We have had some great
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  Speaker 4: producers over the years.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I'm just highly blessed. Really am.
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  Speaker 3: They taught me everything I know.
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  Speaker 1: Toy Toya non it out you. First of all, we're
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  Speaker 1: both from Detroit, you and our friends in real life. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: in my life when I have been championing for this show, yeah, forever,
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  Speaker 1: and the moment I got my podcast, I used it
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  Speaker 1: to say, look, guys, you gotta watch this show. How
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  Speaker 1: does it feel now to know that I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this show is finally.
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  Speaker 2: Getting the momentum it deserves.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to say right off the back, I
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  Speaker 4: appreciate you because you could only be talking about your shows.
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  Speaker 3: But I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because it goes a long
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  Speaker 4: way when someone can say and have the biggest heart
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  Speaker 4: for their people and say, you know what, this is
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  Speaker 4: just a good show. Whether I like your production team
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, I love y'all and y'all are good tv
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  Speaker 4: and we need it because really and truly it's just us.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we're a little pond. We're a little fish
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  Speaker 4: in a big pond. It's like, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 4: ton of housewives, know.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, married to medicine. It's just us right now.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully now listen, you ladies are the ependeme of great television.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all. Clock in this season is off the charts.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into a lot of that, we have
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  Speaker 1: to start with the breaking news.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that Quad and King did break up. It was
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  Speaker 2: announced first on.
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  Speaker 1: Sunday where King said that, you know, somebody said.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, can you look good?
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  Speaker 1: Qua's a lucky woman, and he responding and said her
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  Speaker 1: luck ran out, her luck ran out. And then another
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  Speaker 1: woman says something, and he said, I left the situation.
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  Speaker 1: Were you surprised when you learned that Quad and King
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  Speaker 1: broke up?
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  Speaker 4: I was more surprised that I and I prayed it.
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  Speaker 4: Quad gives me the same grace that she's gonna give Heavenly,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, Heavenly came on your show, and she said,
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  Speaker 4: that's my friend, and so Qua's my friend now too,
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  Speaker 4: you know, And Quad said, you know or Heavenly said,
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  Speaker 4: should I say heavenly?
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  Speaker 3: So let's make it clear.
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  Speaker 4: Heavenly said that they've been broken up for months, right
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  Speaker 4: she did, you know? And I'm just curious how many
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  Speaker 4: months you know? Because Quad is right, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: so it's Heavenly. He has developed relationships to the point
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  Speaker 4: where thank you, King shout out to you know, giving
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  Speaker 4: my son one of the best birthday gifts ever. And
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate him. He's been there for my husband. They
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  Speaker 4: have celebrated Father's Day together. He was there at my
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  Speaker 4: husband's birthday. And he's become a good friend, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I and I don't want y'all to think that
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  Speaker 4: we go around befriending.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Quad brought him to us.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, And he's a nice guy, and I hate that
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  Speaker 4: this season it's so hard for him because really and
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  Speaker 4: truly and her, but you know, really and truly I
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  Speaker 4: think the relationship was over during the season.
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  Speaker 3: Cold towards her or just distant. I'm not even gonna
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  Speaker 3: say cold.
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  Speaker 4: He's distant and he's not as loving as he was
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  Speaker 4: and you can see it, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that the viewers are going to start
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  Speaker 4: seeing a different scenario with him as they continue to
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  Speaker 4: watch the show, and then you'll ask yourself, were they together?
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  Speaker 4: Because that's what I started asking king myself.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ask him yourself?
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  Speaker 4: I did, but it's not my business to tell. I
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  Speaker 4: think that it's something that you know.
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  Speaker 5: High Quad.
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  Speaker 3: I'll call you, yeah, yeah, please do because.
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  Speaker 2: Have you reached out to Qua since learning about the breakup?
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  Speaker 4: Quad has actually been there for me recently my father
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  Speaker 4: has been in the hospital.
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  Speaker 3: She called me, she prayed with me.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Quid has been a friend to everybody this season, and
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  Speaker 4: so that's why it's so hard, because it's like, God,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to argue with my friends, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to go back and forth, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But it is sad because I feel I'm one of
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  Speaker 4: those people that you know, I fight for everyone I do.
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  Speaker 4: You know, even if you're my enemy, I'm still fighting
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  Speaker 4: for you if it's the right thing to do. And
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like it's just so unfair when when
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  Speaker 4: you only hear one side of the story, that's all
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's what the media is for.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know you you did mention that you.
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  Speaker 1: Solicited King service because he owns a luxury car dealers
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  Speaker 1: chef and he did a surprise for your son. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think you broke the girl code by keeping in
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  Speaker 1: touch with your friend's X man?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't keep in touch. I do not
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  Speaker 4: have his phone number. I do not have his DM.
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  Speaker 4: I have it.
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  Speaker 3: I know what this DM is. But yes, absolutely, absolutely his.
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  Speaker 2: You don't think you're trying to follow him.
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  Speaker 3: Eugene and him are good friends.
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  Speaker 2: But are y'all good friends?
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  Speaker 3: Am I good friends with King? I'm about as good
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  Speaker 3: of a friend with King as I am. A quad?
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  Speaker 4: Me a quad are just getting our relationship together. So
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  Speaker 4: come on now, now you know that shit? Okay, that's
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  Speaker 4: like that that God forbid.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The day we're good, tomorrow we're not. So you know
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  Speaker 3: I can't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not doing all that, you know now, Simone went
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  Speaker 4: unfollowed Jackie the other day. But I don't follow people. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I it ain't that deep. Okay, I just mute you.
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  Speaker 4: I will mute your story.
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  Speaker 3: Period.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, So when it comes to another revelation that
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  Speaker 1: happened because this has been a busy married to Bedison week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your friend, doctor Simone has been posting a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things about doctor Jackie. She said that after doctor Jackie
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  Speaker 1: appeared or watch What Happens Live, doctor Simone tweeted, you
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  Speaker 1: are still defending the devil in all caps, and then
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  Speaker 1: doctor Simone posted a screenshot of comments of people telling
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  Speaker 1: doctor Simone that doctor Jackie is not her friend. And
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  Speaker 1: we've learned that doctor Simone has unfollowed doctor Jackie.
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  Speaker 2: What do you make of that?
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  Speaker 4: You know? I just feel it's actually really really sad
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  Speaker 4: because Jackie and Simone go back to Simone being there
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  Speaker 4: when Jackie went through a huge ordeal with cancer.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember when we first started married to.
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  Speaker 4: Medicine and they said to me, nothing is gonna come
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  Speaker 4: between us, okay, because.
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  Speaker 2: We are this right here.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, girls, all right, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I believe them, you know, And I hate to
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  Speaker 4: say it, but this time it is the devil. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna call Heavenly a devil, gonna say I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a spirit on her because the reality is
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  Speaker 4: what y'all are seeing on television is half of the story.
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  Speaker 3: All the time. Thank God for the camera.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why someonone kept saying review the footage, rewind
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  Speaker 4: the tape in the green screen, and they did. And
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  Speaker 4: I love my production team for doing that, because the
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  Speaker 4: girls will lie, and she lied and someone was not
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  Speaker 4: unhinged at all. And I'm not just saying that because
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  Speaker 4: that's my friend, because I defend even my enemy.
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  Speaker 3: Period.
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  Speaker 1: When you saw someone grab Heavenly's arm.
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  Speaker 4: Remove, let's use let's use the word remove Heavenly remoa.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you did you feel like that was enough
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  Speaker 1: for heaven to feel like you've gone too far?
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  Speaker 4: No, because just before that, if you really rewind the footage,
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  Speaker 4: you'll see Quad and I and I'm grabbing Quad, Like,
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  Speaker 4: calm down when you're hearing Simon, that was an unhinged moment.
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  Speaker 4: I pushed me through things back security jumped in the midst.
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  Speaker 3: That's unhinged. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: What Simone did was make a statement, and the statement
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  Speaker 4: was don't touch me.
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  Speaker 3: And I think anyone should be able to do that.
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  Speaker 4: Thank God, we're able to do that on TV, you know,
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  Speaker 4: because people will try to provoke you and and and
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  Speaker 4: put you in uncomfortable situations that make you feel like
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  Speaker 4: you have to react. And I can speak to it
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  Speaker 4: because I've been there. I remember people flipping my hair
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  Speaker 4: and all of that and and everything else that came
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  Speaker 4: with it years ago, you know. But it takes a
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  Speaker 4: strong woman to say, please take your hand off of me,
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  Speaker 4: and I will not do this, and I respect it.
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  Speaker 3: Props to her.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think, doctor jack he is a good friend
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  Speaker 2: to someone own.
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  Speaker 4: I think that she could be a better friend to many.
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  Speaker 4: I think that there's a lot of times where Jackie
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  Speaker 4: has dropped the ball, you know, and she's just she's
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  Speaker 4: not the Jackie that I knew years ago. I'll never
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  Speaker 4: forget Lemon Squeeze Jackie. I'll never forget coming to her
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  Speaker 4: house and I was so sad and she had my
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  Speaker 4: back with Mariah, and you know, something switched, you know,
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  Speaker 4: within the last maybe five years or so, And I
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  Speaker 4: think so, I think honestly, it was something that happened
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  Speaker 4: when we were filming and Jackie broke in the tears,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and she.
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  Speaker 3: Was arguing with Mariah.
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  Speaker 4: It was the whole thing about the drugs, and Jackie
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  Speaker 4: was just so hurt and broken and Heavenly came to
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  Speaker 4: her rescue. And I think from that moment on That's
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  Speaker 4: where Jackie just decided, I would rather not even stand
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  Speaker 4: up for anyone, you know, if just to not be
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  Speaker 4: in that pain again. And you saw how she handled
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  Speaker 4: the Buffy situation. She was she was mortified, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean sad daily, you know. But at the same token,
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  Speaker 4: you keep doing the same thing, you know, like she
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  Speaker 4: does some slip ups, you know, and I think we
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  Speaker 4: all do, you know. But the difference is she she
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  Speaker 4: wants to pass for her slip ups, you know. And
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  Speaker 4: I know this is a little bit more than what
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  Speaker 4: you asked about friendship, but I think that a friend
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  Speaker 4: should be able to tell their friends when they're wrong.
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  Speaker 4: A friend should be protective, you know. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that Jackie would not have been okay with someone lying
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  Speaker 4: on her.
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  Speaker 3: She wouldn't have been okay with any of that.
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  Speaker 4: She would have been she would have been asking for
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  Speaker 4: them to be fired or saying that she will not
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  Speaker 4: be on the show anymore. And so why is it
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  Speaker 4: any different for Simone? And why would you go on
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  Speaker 4: National TV on watch What Happens Live and not tell
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  Speaker 4: the truth, not defend.
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  Speaker 1: That when it comes to doctor Jackie's friendship with Simone
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  Speaker 1: and Heavenly. Do you think she sides with Heavenly more
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  Speaker 1: than simone? And if so, why do you think she
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  Speaker 1: sides with Heavenly more?
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  Speaker 4: She absolutely sides with Heavenly more. But I think that
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the girls look to Heavenly for protection.
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  Speaker 4: And it's crazy that you I would use that word, right,
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  Speaker 4: You're like protection, but you know, you know what it's
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  Speaker 4: like when the girls come for you and it's more
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  Speaker 4: than one. You know, a lot of us think that
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  Speaker 4: we can handle reality TV. I thought I could, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but that this is a beast right here, This is this,
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  Speaker 4: This is.
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  Speaker 3: The hardest thing I've ever done in my life. It's
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  Speaker 3: worse than birth. Okay, all right, this right here, This
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  Speaker 3: and a tummy tuck.
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  Speaker 4: Those two things are the worst things I have ever Okay,
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  Speaker 4: And honestly, I just you know, she doesn't want to
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  Speaker 4: go through the fire alone, and Heavenly is willing to
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  Speaker 4: fight these girls' battles. That's why you see some of
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  Speaker 4: the new girls running up behind her, not even trying
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  Speaker 4: to see anybody else's point of view, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, just just strategically.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, her and Qua's relationship, you know, Heavenly,
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  Speaker 4: Oh you know as my friend. I love her, but
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  Speaker 4: I can talk now. Okay, Well I'm her friend. Can
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  Speaker 4: I talk? Can I do the same?
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  Speaker 2: Can you?
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I don't know. We're gonna see
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  Speaker 3: or union Friday.
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  Speaker 2: And it's dropping Thursday. Okay, that far?
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  Speaker 3: That far?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we're union content?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Well listen you when when you when you
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  Speaker 1: talk about the girls following Heavenly the new Girls.
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  Speaker 2: You know, doctor Mimi is a new cast member and.
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  Speaker 1: She's very opinionated. I think she's wonderful for the show.
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  Speaker 1: I love doctor Mimi.
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  Speaker 3: You mean Brandy? Are you talking about Brandy or me?
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  Speaker 4: Me?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry? Did you mean Brandy? Did you mean Brandy?
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  Speaker 3: I know you meant Brandy. Stop playing. You don't mean Randy.
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  Speaker 2: I love Brandy too.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's the realest one now right, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: She's giving you herself. She's a breath of fresh air.
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  Speaker 4: Praise God for brand Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I've been Barry Bulka.
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  Speaker 4: I'll let's talk about Brandy. What don't you want to
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  Speaker 4: talk about? I'm just saying, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Am I taking over? I'm sorry? As your platform as
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  Speaker 3: you do, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I love you? You about Detroit saistor, all right, we
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  Speaker 2: grew up together that I'm gonna get to Brandy in
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  Speaker 2: a second.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you are bounced it.
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  Speaker 1: Out, But I would like to start with doctor Mimmy.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's great for the show. Her husband is
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  Speaker 1: I can say this. You can't, not that you would.
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  Speaker 2: But attracted.
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  Speaker 3: You think he attracted?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, really I think Steve?
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  Speaker 3: What the boys say? What? What? What are you saying?
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  Speaker 1: I have never conducted an interview on this podcast that
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  Speaker 1: has been award winning, featured in People magazine, Shade Room,
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  Speaker 1: that has a mass today over one hundred and forty
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  Speaker 1: seven million views, where someone has beat me at my
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  Speaker 1: own game in an interview.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's God, all praise I am.
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  Speaker 2: You are really good. You know.
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  Speaker 4: My pastor's wife says she would like to see what
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  Speaker 4: she wants the world to see what she sees. And
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  Speaker 4: I said, okay, all right, I got you.
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  Speaker 1: No listen, I love everything about you.
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  Speaker 2: You are really dominating his interview and I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 2: Now back to doctor Mimi.
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  Speaker 1: I think Steve is gorgeous. I think he's stunning. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: no disrespect doctor me me, but Steve is extremely attractive,
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  Speaker 1: and so.
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  Speaker 3: Isene but is extremely attracted surprise game.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I want to give you his flowers
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  Speaker 1: because I have lots of questions about you and your gene.
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  Speaker 2: Now before he gets here, honey, I'm gonna stick on Steve.
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  Speaker 3: Honey, Okay, how long? All right?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sorry Mimi? AnyWho? Back to Mimi. I think Mimi
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  Speaker 2: is great for the show. Do you think Mimi is
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  Speaker 2: following behind Heavenly for protection?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 4: I definitely think she's following behind Heavenly for protection and
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  Speaker 4: really and truly, I would have to differ with you.
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  Speaker 3: I think Steve is great for the show. I do.
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  Speaker 4: I think Memi, on the other hand, needs some work,
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  Speaker 4: but I think Steve is great.
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  Speaker 2: What work does she need?
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  Speaker 3: Just you know, you got to learn to stand on
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  Speaker 3: your own two feet. You gotta stop.
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  Speaker 4: No, she does not. She likes to use special trigger words.
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  Speaker 4: Does she learned being a psychiatrist?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Chaos? She's in chaos? You know she you know? Am
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  Speaker 3: I safe with her?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 4: Heavily didn't get that she's unhinged. That was me me,
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  Speaker 4: stop playing Stop. When did we heard Heavily say anything
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  Speaker 4: like that?
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  Speaker 3: Besides? Yo, mama, people, honey.
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  Speaker 6: I'm obsessed with medicine.
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  Speaker 2: You don't watch this show. I don't know what the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: fuck are doing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: The best because we want the truth where everybody wants
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the truth. Like, let's stop with that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You don't think doctor is being truthful? Child?
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I think, Hey, I can get under the people's skin. Okay,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I didn't know I was made for TV, but I
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: guess I am. You are, so it is what it is?
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, can I can I be sony? Okay? Okay, Okay,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: you know, but I get it. You know what I'm saying.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I understand.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: All I'm saying is, if I can give me me
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: any advice, if you want to stay or married to medicine,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: learn how to have your own opinion.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Learn how to.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Stop trying to pretend like your psycho analyzing your friends.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: But really you're judging your friends because none of us
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: have sat on your couch, none of us have spent
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: any time with you outside of filming, and so you
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: know nothing about any of us except for Quad and Heavenly,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: those are the only individuals you can diagnose.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Period.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Has she tried to get to know you and some own.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: No, she doesn't call us.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: There's been numerous times where my husband tried to reach
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: out to Steve.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Maybe my husband too fine for him. You know, it
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: was a competition.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He can't hang out with
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: my man because my man worked. Okay, I'm just saying, yeah, what.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Does Steve do?
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Oh he works under his wife. I think you work
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: as his wife, which I'm okay with. I don't know.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: He's the office manager. I mean in every scene, they
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: just say go to work. I ain't see no work,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: but they just say go to work. I don't know.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't know. Is there paper
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: on this desk?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I don't you tell me.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's rewind the footage is.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Steve the mile version of Toya.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's why he's so cute. Wait, yes,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I told you he's perfect for our show.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: He's perfect a.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Bunch old men. You know what I'm saying. It's nice
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: to have a little youthful you know.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, speaking of youthful Angel, I think it's great
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: for the show.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: She is, Angel is breathtaking. Angel has to be honest.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Angel spoke up a lot. You know, I'm not gonna
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: bite Angel's bait because really and truly Angel knows TV
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: and she she needs something for the reunion. She does
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: because you know a lot of times Angel spoke up
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: and it just wasn't shown, you know. And I think
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: because she has a big booty, and I think they
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: was like, baby, that is better TV.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, eighty is what it is. She looked great in
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: her clothes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Don't she remember that cute little silver dress. Oh my god,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: it was popping out in every direction. We're talking about
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: God at the same time.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, But I will say this, I love having Angel
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: on the show. She's spicy, she's pretty, she is fun,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you know, and I love the fun girls. And I
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: think the more youth we add to our show, the
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: fun of the show is because I'm a different person
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: when I have my youth around me. So I love
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Angel on the show. Gray, thank you for hiring Good Joys.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: And you are proverbs thirty one woman yourself? Yes, yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you know what that means.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I am well, I would like to be a proverb
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: thirty one woman. I mean, there's some things in that proverb,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: like you know meekness, kindness.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Obviously, it's some things that I'm working on.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it to you and you tell me.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: If Toya bush Hair is working on Proverbs thirty one woman,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you're ready for this?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay?
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Because she did call them all a Proverbs thirty one.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Proverbs thirty one woman, you should be uprod. Yeah, she
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: was quoting it. I saw that too.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, let's see what You're ready? Okay, ready for this? Okay,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I got I read this chot.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Virtuous and trustworthy? Is that you?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: My friends would say so.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Earning her husband's full confidence.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he would say so, okay.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Strong and dignified, oh, very generous and wise.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, My sons would say so.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Faithful Yes, I think, yes, I think.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: I think. I think it's hard to faithful to what
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: faithful to your husband? Oh I'm absolutely I'm faithful to
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: my husband and to marry to medicine.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Oh my bad, it said her alto It really
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: bes painful to God.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: The ultimate praise is based on her fear of the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Lord rather than merely her beauty or her charm.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: That part is that you, that part, baby, I'm not
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: going to hell for nobody. And I always say that too,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: and the girls know, down to the down to they
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: all know if this one thing I can get from
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Toya as a prayer, I can get. They know that
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: my relationship with God is strong. And I'm scary, you
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: know about I don't want to go to hell. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: don't want to lie.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I try.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: You know, when I was younger, there was a lot
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: of things that I did that I'm not proud of.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And they like having do your turn paper to get
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a date with.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: You, No like stealing, like you know, being arrested as
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: a child, you know, just putting my mom through hell.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: You know, rebellious you know, rebellious spirit, you know.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: And I think when I look back, if I could
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: just redo some parts of my life. But it's okay
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: because you know, God said, guess what I got grace
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: for you, and look at you now.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: He said, because some people won't see.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: If I wasn't on TV, you would think, you would
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: never think. You know, my friends know that there is
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: that Toya.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: I read somewhere on Instagram and it said if my
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: girlfriend had six husbands and I have six brother in laws,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: because and neither one of them will know because that's
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: my girl, you know. And I am faithful to my friends.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: I value the friendships that I have. I just got
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: back from the dr of fifty and from my girl
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: just turned fifty and I've known her since I was
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: in sixth grade. All of my friendships date back that far,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: you know, except for the girls I'm married to me.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: But even with them, it's been over fifteen almost eighteen
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: years for some of us.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And I'm a faithful friend.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I am, you know, But there comes a time where
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: being faithful doesn't mean you have to lie. And I've
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: never asked my friends to lie for me, and I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: not gonna lie for them.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Based on what I read about the definition of a
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: proverb thirty one one man, well you was confused.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: You thought he was talking about Eugene. No, so let's
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: let's redo that. Let's talk about God.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: So that they said, I'm gonna say a name, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you tell me if they are a proverb thirty one woman.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Based on the definition, do you remember.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: It shoulder honey?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's the perfect time.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, honey, here, come on, be a Eugene.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: You look amazing.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: No, Eugene is when I had Eugene and see someone podcasts.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: First of all, the numbers went through the roof because
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it was nice to hear just from them. Yea, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the way they love up on the women.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: But that's what that's our show up part too. Our
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: men are there working for free. They are not being paid.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: They are just there to support their wives.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: And that is a very loving place because there's a
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: lot of housewives husbands that say they're not doing it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: And you know, the thing is, and I can say
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: this public because I already said it. You know, Cynthia
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: used to give Peter ten percent of her paycheck.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: And and someone might she might, You should ask her.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but Eugene gets way more than ten
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: percent because Switzerland.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Was way.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: What I miss.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: So much.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Talk us. Don't worry. There's one question I do want
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to get your opinion on.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, I know what that is.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: You really are okay, So listen, rain drops.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: We are blessed with the presence of this great man
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: who I.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Revered so much. I'm not gonna get emotional.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: You should he just drove in from work.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: No, but I know he did, but.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: You no.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: But he also The thing about doctor Eugene is I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: was going through something personal. You know about that, yes, oh, yes, yes, yes,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: yes yes. And I called Toya and I said I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: need to talk to Eugene, and Eugene was there for me.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And and I just want to say for the world
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to know, this is a good man, Savannah like like
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like in real in real life. This man helped me
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: through something that I was going through on a personal
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: level through somebody in my life. And I just think
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you're the greatest thing in the world. So give it
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: up for doctor Eugene Harrid.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Now, you didn't miss all of the girl talk, but
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I do have to you came in at the right
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: time because I was reading the definition.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: You know, they say, I need to stay out of
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: women's business.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Reality the Kings man, this man is obviously the women's business,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: so welcome to my book.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: His wife is his business period period.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: So as you know, Angel mentioned on the show a
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Proverbs thirty one woman, and I want to know if
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: your wife fits the description virtuous and trustworthy, yes, strong
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and dignified yes, generous and wise yes.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Faithful.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Now with that being said, I'm gonna name some names
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and you tell me if they are a Proverbs.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Thirty one woman, Okay.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: For me or him, both of y'all.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: He can't he's okay, okay, fine for you, okay, but you.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Can make a noise if you disagree.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, I make faces, okay, dom thirty one woman, doctor Heavenly.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: She is not trustworthy, so no, okay, Doctor Simone, Yes,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Doctor Jackie, Yes, Quad.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I'm developing the trust. We're trying.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: But in the past there has been some things that
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: has shown me that I think trust in faithful. But
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: if we're talking about faithful to God, that's different. I
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: think we're all striving to be probably thirty one women,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: and I don't want to say that I can judge
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: anybody because I fall short. Okay, Yeah, Doctor Mimi, I
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: don't know her.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: She's a cast mate.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: She doesn't call me, we don't spend any time together.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: We're on a group thread. That's all I know.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Y'alls wearing matching pajamas, celebrating Christmas brob them for us.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: At Walmart? Okay Walmart?
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: No shape the Walmart.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: No shame.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: I mean it could have been, but we're not going
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: to target right.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Now, you know, I mean, okay, wrapping things up Brandy.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, from what I spend time with her, I
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: speak with her. I said earlier, my father is going
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: through some things in the hospital. Brandy has been there
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: for me. Simone has been there for me.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, they've all been great.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Everybody else has given their prayers, and my friend Group
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Quad has prayed with me.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: But yeah, she's been a great friend.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: And I love the fact that when Mimi tried to
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: put her on the spot and tell her who she
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: should align herself with, Brandy said, I'm gonna need you
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: not talk to me like girl, I got this, you don't.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I don't need you to do any of that for me. Okay.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: It's like that part okay, because.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: You've grown and you have your own voice and you
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: are not manipulated by the people.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: That part.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And last, but not least, the woman who made the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: statement alive Angel is Angel.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: A Proverbs thirty one woman.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I'm getting to know Angel.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Honestly, the longest time I've spent with her was after
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: the party we had at the house where everybody said
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I went crazy and went off with my husband in
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: a disrespectful way. She stayed her, Angel stay Quad, stayed
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: King stayed until three in the morning. We were all
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: outside talking and had a.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Wonderful time, had a wonderful time. Well, isn't that something
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: a wonderful time.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we get to talk about that, But before
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: we get we get to talk about that night that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: literally broke the internet. I do want to ask you,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: doctor Eugene. Recent news broke that King and Quad have
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: broken up, and I wanted to get your thoughts on it.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Are you surprised by the news or did you see
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: it coming.
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: I hate to say I kind of saw it coming
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: to a certain degree, only because and I'm actually cool
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: with King, and I think, you know, he's a new friend,
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: but I actually would use the word friend. We actually talked,
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: We hung out on Father's Day, like we I hang
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: out with King. King always had an issue. I think
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: that the focus of their relationship was baby only. You know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: when you're a new couple and you're just getting to to,
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: you know, meet this person, the focus should be getting
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: to know them, not fertility stuff. And you know, I
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: think that it was too much focus on other stuff
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: other than really establishing their bond. And I think it
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: it affected him to a certain degree.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Have you spoken to him since the news broke, or
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: did you I.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Told him the news broke. I said, hey, Ken, you
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: all over the internet.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Well, he brought the news himself. He told us part,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: well tell them all.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Before that news.
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: No, he did know that that his his comments were
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: on the internet.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Oh well, he went on the internet and made the comment.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: I know he didn't know that it would hit him
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: with Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: I was like, hey, I said, hey, Ken, you know
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: you're on TMZ. He's like, huh, so I sent it
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: to him.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: He was like, oh, but see the TMZ call him
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: because they called or the called TMZ quiet.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: A statement came after King's stuff blew up. I believe
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: when did you know they broke up?
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: When did I know they broke up?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, I'm sorry to you.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: He said, this has been done.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: Because I think that because the focus was off, like
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: they just weren't on the same page, you know.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: All at all.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: That's we would advise everyone to enjoy your relationship for
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: as long as you can and establish a bond between
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: each other so that hopefully once you have the kids
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: yet that bond is first you know, it's unbreakable in
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: front of the kids, and you know, our kids, I
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: tell you, Gene all the time, we got to we
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: have to be on the same team.
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, let me retract that statement because actually, even when
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: I think of like I've been, you know, we've been
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: you know, we go to marriage counciling.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: So one of the things I've been trying to really
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: self reflect on some things, and I was like, you know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: and think of thinking about things more philosophically almost. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: think when a man and woman fall in love, when
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: she has a baby, she falls in love with that
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: baby to a certain degree. And it's hard to be
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: in love with two people at the same time in love,
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: you know. And so when you look at a man
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: and a woman after they have children, the focus does
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: shift off the man to a certain degree, and I
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: think they never had I think, the full experience of
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: falling in love because they were probably going in that direction.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: But then the shift it to I want.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: To have a baby. I want to have a baby.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: I want a baby. So King's like, as a man,
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: what about me? What about us?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Like those are the questions I would ask him.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: You know what made you put aside everything that you
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: need for her needs?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Why did you stay and film and continue when y'all
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: were not in a good.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Place, like that's what I want And I never asked,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: and I could have.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: But if you ask, and you know, and someone asks you,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: then you're obligated to tell that they ask for the truth.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: And so I'd rather not know so much, you know.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: But I think there's a story there, definitely.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Well we will fight out, but what I will say
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: is there's a story going on with YouTube that has
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: rattled social media. Episodes ago, you guys had a party
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: at your house and you two got into an argument.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: And how to get to the specifics of it, Because
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: y'all were there, we all watched it. But Toya, people
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: do not like the way you speak to your husband,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and they think you emasculate him on purpose. They think
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you don't respect him, and even Heavenly has said something
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: along the lines of you treat him this way maybe
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: because you want something else.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: What do you have to say to people who feel
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: this way?
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I think I'll start from the back end of Heavenly.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: I think that we all think at some point in
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: our life that we need or deserve something else whenever
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: things aren't going our way. And I think when it
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: comes to my husband, the one thing I know for
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: a fact is that he chose me, and God spoke
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: to me and said he was for me.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what you know.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't even I wasn't even ready for marriage really,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: but he was like, that's for you.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: He's for you.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: And every since we've been together, we've been blessed and
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: because we're obedient, and I was obedient to God, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: so I know that Eugene is for me.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that we're.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Not gonna have that we're gonna be the perfect couple.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I've only met one couple that I say sometimes is
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: borderline perfection. They laugh all the time. It's my aunt
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: and my uncle. But the reality is Eugenie and I
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: have been on camera now, I think for almost thirteen years,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: and so the camera no longer is present.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It's almost like it's.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: A little stranger in the room, but it's like you
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: don't really pay any attention. And that particular day, it
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: was a real life scenario that that was something that
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: me and Eugene has had we fought to overcome. In
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: the beginning of our marriage, we would have some heated
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: discussions in front of our friends and it was uncomfortable
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: for them because they loved us both. We would even
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: try to make them choose sides. It was bad, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I think that the public is right to a certain extent.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I shoot from the hip.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I'm blunt, I can be rude.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I I don't mean to emasculate my husband, and I
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: definitely it's not my intention to attack him. By no means,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I do feel like there are times when I'm unheard
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: and I need more self control when it comes to
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: speaking to my husband, whether it be or during a camera,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: you know, around friends or in private. I think that
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: we both are a work in progress, you know. But
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: I'm by no means perfect, and that's my prayer. Now,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: that's my struggle, and I'm just glad that my ultimate
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: judge is God, and he knows my heart. He knows
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: that I'm really trying to be a nicer person when
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: it comes to my husband.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: And we even learned in our marriage counseling that.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: We have some triggers that we've had for years, you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: And one of my triggers is not being her because
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: as a child, I always felt like my voice was.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I couldn't use it in my mother's house.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: It was her word and that's it. And so when
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I grew up, I was like, nobody going to tell me,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: you know, And it was all of that. And you know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: growing up in Detroit, it was like, you know, it's
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: a battle sometimes, you know, my family, it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Is what it is.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because in Detroit.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: We can polish up nights, but.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: You well, in Detroit you're not again except for the rules,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: but being raised in Detroit in a household with parents,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you are not allowed type of boys.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: No, no at all.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: It's what they say.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: In his household, he was raised the same way.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: I think there's.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: I think the public obviously sees us and judges us,
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: you know, they and we're pretty open. I think we
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: give a good representation of think of who we are.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: But the public still doesn't see the whole. Toya, they
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: don't see the whole, Eugene, Like, I know how she
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: grew up. She knows how I grew up. You know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: I know, I know her parents, I know her where
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: she came from, I know all these other aspects of
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: like you just might see Toya saying something, but I
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: know where it came from, you know, so I get
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: I get it, you know, if I know the backstory
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: and understand the whole person. Sometimes when she says something,
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: I may not take it the way the public is
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: going to see it, because I get what's happening.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: And it's not him making excuses for I think it's
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: recognizing too that there are some things that happen and
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: he's growing and when he was growing up, and they
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: may have made him a certain type of way where
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: he triggers me.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: And and that does he do.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: That triggers you specifically?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: I think, I mean, if I can I be honest,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: are you sure?
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know what you're about to say?
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that one of my triggers is
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I don't like for him to drink a lot, especially
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: on camera. I think in that scene they thought I
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: was drunk, but really, and truly, my husband had worked
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: hours and not eight and he was having a great
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: and I was pissed, you know, and I was trying
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: and I'm so used to him being my my ride
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: die and helping me through these scenes, and that day
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: he was kicking it with the guys, and I'm like,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: we're trying to make a show, you know, what are
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: we doing here? And so it just, you know, it
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: was things that was happening that just were you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: it was triggering for me. And when I kept trying
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: to get his attention, you know, and I was like, hey, hey, honey,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: can you please, can you do this? They only showed
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: you know. I mean we were at my house for
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: over four hours. They showed a forty five minute version
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: of it. There were so many times where I had
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: asked over and over.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I had asked.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Scott had even stood up and was like, I'll do it, Toya,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: you know. And it wasn't that I was trying to
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: get him to do what I say. It's not it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: It's just that at that moment, it's pressure, you know.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: And when I see my friends giving me that look,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: that side eye, and then I see people that aren't
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: even my friends like me me, you know, that don't
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: know us, don't know our relationship, but that are looking
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: for something. I was angry, you know, and it came out,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: and I admit, you know, I took a lot of
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: it out on Eugene, you know. And I think that
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: through marriage counseling, it's great because we we talk about, Okay,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: why do we still have the same triggers that we've
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: had here that we no longer need.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I need to feel safe with my husband, and sometimes
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: I don't always feel that way, you know, and I
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: think that what.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Does safe look like for you? When it comes to him.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: A good example, being raised in Detroit, you might have
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: stayed in the house with bars on the window, right,
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: bars on the front door.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: You know that was my scenario. I remember.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: My stepfather always saying it's a man's job to lock
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: each door, make sure the house is on lockdown when
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: it's time to go to be it. You know, I
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: never saw my parents drinking in front of me. And
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about my stepfather and my mother, not my father,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: but just providing an environment where I can be who
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: I need to because I know he got me. And
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I guess that's why, even though he's not an alcoholic
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: and he can drink and have a great time, it
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: triggers me because I know that once he gets thereed
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: and it's my turn to be that.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Protector.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to be that. I don't always
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: want to be the strong girl. I feel like I
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: was raised being that and I want to be soft too,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: you know. I want my husband. We're working on the
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: trigger words. I said, can you just call me lovey
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: when you want to calm me down? Because I want
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: to be loving. I want to be all the things
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: that he needs. And so we're figuring out where we
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: are eighteen years later in our marriage and what we
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: need individually and can he provide that for me? Absolutely,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: But I have to be at a place where I
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: can express them, where he can hear me.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: And so I'm working on me and he's working on home.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: And how does it feel for you to hear her
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: say those things?
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: I mean, we're working progress, you know, And I think
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: you're always trying to reinvent yourself to be better and
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: that's and that's what she's doing. That's what I'm doing.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: So if I mean, if I would, I would be disappointed.
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: She was like, Oh, I'm perfect, you know. It's it's
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: only it's only your problem, you know, And you're the
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: only one that needs to change. That's not what's what
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: she's saying. She's like, Hey, yeah, I have triggers, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: some of my triggers are because my parents. Some of
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: my triggers are past relationships. Some of my triggers are
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: the shit you're doing now, you know. But I think
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: recognizing it, I think is the first step of change.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: But I think he also has to and we are
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: figuring this out in our marriage counseling. He has to
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: own the fact too that he get defensive. And when
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: he gets defensive, is it necessary? Is that going to
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: help him to get his point across to me? You know?
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: And so there are things now that as a married couple,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: you know, we're working on, but owning your part in it,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: owning your things that you know, I can't worry about
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: so much him owning or.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Telling the world his business. That's his business.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: But I don't mind because they're paying me, you know,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: and there and they're always going to show me in
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: a certain light, you know, and I hate that because
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I try to change it all the time, you know.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Like you'll see towards the end of the season, I
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: just was like, I have to stop giving it to him.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: You know. I can't blame production for anything because I
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: give them these moments. And so if I just I
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: got to figure out a way to still make good TV,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: but do it in a way that makes me proud,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: my pastor's wife proud, my husband proud, and God proud.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Right, But I do think that starts with you, right,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: And I hear you a lot and clear when you
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: say and I never knew that you Obviously you were
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: a little girl, right, who.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Did not have a voice in her own household.
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: And as you got out, you sort of like broke free,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you know, from a spiritual standpoint, a physical standpoint, an
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: emotional standpoint, you were free.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of when I left Detroit at.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Twenty two, and I was don't laugh, I was in
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the closet with this voice, still in this manimism.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Don't blame me, don't me anyway, shut up.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: To I believe it though Detroit is Detroit was in
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: the closet for a long time.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: But my point is I grew up in a household
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: where I could not be my full self. So when
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I left Detroit, I moved to New York City, and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: baby I became everything I came to be. And when
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I came back home a year later, I had two earrings, right,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: And my father said to me.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: That's it, right, And I said, m hmm.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: But my point was, I understand what you're going through
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: in terms of like your expressed of because you weren't
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: able to do that. But I do think this though,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: if I can give you some of the device as
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: my sister.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I do think this.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I think you said something that I was going to
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: say to you too, and I'm glad. I'm glad you
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: said it because it shows.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Me you're growing.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: You're repeating the same cycle over and over again, and
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you have to you have to tell yourself how are
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you able to.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Manage your reaction to things?
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Because you are very expressive and he isn't right and
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: his expression looks very different than yours.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: And the one thing I want to talk to you
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: about though.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Because he did say what the fuck?
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Well? I do again.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a viewer, but I think I can speak on
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: behalf of America.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: And I say this with love.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, Toya, we all felt it's about time for Eugene.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Stemha okay, oh okay.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: We were like finally because we and and please stop
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: me if I got this all wrong. When we look
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: at this man, there's a lot of women who want
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: your husband. And I'm pretty sure you know that, yes,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and you know that I'm pretty sure.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you read DMS.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I hope you don't because one of the reasons why
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: King told the world they broke up is because girls
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: were flirting with him in the comments, knowing that at
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: least they thought he was a qua.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: But my point.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Is these girls don't carry if you got a woman
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: or not, they're gonna flur with you. There's a lot
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: of women who want your man because they look at
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: this very successful black man who not spiritually, but he
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: worships the ground you walk on. You are his dream girl,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and you live a very soft life to us. To us,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say why because this man works to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: the bone to make sure that Toya Bush Harris is happy.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: And I do think that it looks differently for you.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: So what we're seeing as the audience is and when
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I say this, I'm saying this with kindness, we look
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: at you like this grateful bitch. Do you know how
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: many women a man want your man, will love a
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Eugene to have in their life. And we do feel
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: like you take him for granted. And when he buck
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: up back on you, we you know, a lot of
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: the girls got turned on because you know, they were like, hey, Eugene,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: but they also felt like it's about damn time she's
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: she deserves for you to buck up on her.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: But I do. Do you get what I'm saying right?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I figure, yes, But I do want to ask you this.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Did were you ever able to move past the comments
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: your wife made about your penis?
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: She okay, I still don't think she made a comment
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: about my penis.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Correct?
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: It was it was, it was.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: It was a figurative thing, and it got it. They
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: ran with it. The other ladies, yes, Quad ran with it,
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: even ran with it, you know, but she.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Didn't even today when they bring it up, and what
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I what, I cut you off. But the reason why
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I'm asking you that is because this season, in your
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: frustration with her, y'all had a one on one scene
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: and in your frustration with her, you brought it up again,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: like they're saying, that's about me, So that's all I guess.
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: It's because it's an ongoing issue. Like even though that
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: was several years ago that this comment was made. The
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: same day of the party, the pool party, I'm in
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: text messages talking about yeah, and your your husband's dick
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: is little in mine aid, you know, Like.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, what's that got to do with you?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Leave it?
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: A fake person of the party, like that's your you
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: leave y'all text.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: As girl text, leave me out of it now now
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: that I meanute, like, hey, we're talking about me, you know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: Like does it offend you?
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Offensive?
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Like are you you? You? Are you?
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Is it hard for you to get past that because
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: it's something think that you felt like any man, I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: will as a man, I.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Just wouldn't want that to constantly be brought up.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: It's an annoyance. I'm over it, you.
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: Know, but but when you keep bringing it up, it's
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: research Like had it not ever came up again? I
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: was like, okay, well that was some stupid stuff that
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: like I said, she's gonna give me a dress. I
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: haven't brought that up ever again because she ain't saying
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: any no more. But when you keep saying something, but
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: do you blame her for it? Do you feel like
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: he forgave you for that?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Our counselor said, how do you deal with the stresses
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: of your life, your show, your job, social media?
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: We haven't figured it out yet.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: I think that Eugene wants to believe that he's over it.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: But I prayed for a man that was sensitive to
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: me and not with there anybody else us, and so
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: the part that I know and being with him for
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: almost twenty years now, his feelings are hurt. He has
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: always looked at himself as being a good guy, especially
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: to women, and to be attacked by women is it's
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: hard for him because you're not allowed to go off
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: on a woman, you know what I mean, Which is
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: what concerned me a little bit because when people say
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: things like well it's about time, I was like, wow,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: what a double standard, because God forbid the world be
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: okay with a man bucking up on a woman at
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: any time, because the reality is in a relationship, if
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: I'm acting a fool, you don't meet me foolishly, right, Okay,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: you set the tone of the way, and you wanted
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: to go and so had Eugene met me with baby,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: let's go talk on the bag, you know, let me
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: something right with you right now.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: He did try to come at you and and nestle
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: your head.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: We came in the kitchen.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it was it was it was World War three.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about before I watched it, before you watched it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: That was that an edit before before, No, no, before,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about before the escalation when you made the comment,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: what can you get up something along those lines, and
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: you went in the house and he was like, made
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: me get up, and you got up and you walked
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: to her and you said.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, what the fuck?
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, hey, what the fuck? We was? We
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: was both on ten by then?
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Right, what the fuck?
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: They showed something a little different, But just be clear,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: let's be clear.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Even though that happened, okay, I still the show. Well,
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: what happened before that? Yes, And so you may not
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: have even seen that because you saw me not doing
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Proverbs thirty one.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: And that's fair.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Period.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: No, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair, it's real.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I actually listened because I'm not a producer in this moment.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a viewer, and I actually receive it. I can
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: actually receive that as a viewer. I was so put
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: off by the way you spoke to him that I
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: missed anything he did and listen, maybe subconsciously, me and
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the viewers, you know, were like, whatever he did.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, it doesn't.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Matter because of you. And now I understand why, oh
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: my gosh, I have aha moment too.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I now understand why it's very difficult for you to
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: be yourself on the show, because you do feel like, yes,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I'm giving the world my real life, but I also
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: understand as an outspoken black woman talking an octave higher
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: than most to her husband, I lost the audience on
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: my side.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I receive that, I actually receive it, and I.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: And I respect my audience.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I love. I love the love I get.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: You know, I look on social media at comments and
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: I'm just looking for somebody to say you did that,
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: you know, And I shouldn't because when they don't say it,
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: But I don't want to let my fans down either.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: You know. It's I I know that I was put
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: on this show for a reason, and it wasn't to
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: make up bad, fake storylines.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: It wasn't too you know, gloat, It wasn't to do
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: any of that.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: It was to show a loving marriage with a real
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: mother raising two boys, and.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: The world needed to see it.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: I've always asked before the show started to be in
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: like the college show and like the you know, different
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: worlds back in the day, because that's what gave me hope,
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: and so I really truly want to represent that.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: But because I'm not scripted and.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Now I'm back to being producer, I don't want you
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: to represent that I want you to represent yourself right,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: And I think this interview is doing a great job
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: as showing the complexities of you because you're not one note.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: And that's okay, a lot of people aren't.
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: You have been in a relationship with this man, Mary,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: excuse me, for eighteen years, right, and that's that, first
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: of all, I should be applauded. And secondly, it's difficult
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: to also show that on television. And the thing about you,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: doctor Eugene, that I've always wanted to ask you is listen,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: when Toya enters the room, your eyes light up right
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: and you obviously, baby, it does. But I wanted to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: ask you this. I didn't I get a chance to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: ask you this fully in all last conversation. What do
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: you see in Toya that you wish the world knew?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: She is a very complete woman to me.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: You know, I think she's she's attractive, she's smart, she's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: very caring. I think she's a wonderful friend. She's a
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: great mother.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: You know, like I, on paper, this is who you
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: want to marry now.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: I also, because I the way I grew up, I've
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: got a couple of extra things that I like that
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: some people some men don't like, you know, I like outspoken,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: you know, I like a little feisty, you know. I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: think you know, I don't like women who were just
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: one note. I don't want her to not give me
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: pushback if she sees crap.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: He dated somebody like that.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I think she can go overboard.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: But I'm okay with that because I understand the total person,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: you know, But I like some of this stuff.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: Our councilor would be like, yeah, well, sometimes when when
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: you when it's something that you don't like, how do
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: you respond?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: He's like, Okay, yeah, that's the problem.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: You know what he's said, asked for you want to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: explain about it.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: The thing that the reason why this makes sense to
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: me is because in every relationship, this is my opinion.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Number one.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I want to say, as long as your partner has
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: eighty percent.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Of what you want, you've hit the lottery. You really
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: you know, you really have.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: You really have because you're not trying to make you're
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: not trying to build him up.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: But but but her, But not only that. Listen, we
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: live in a world where we know that nothing's perfect.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: And I do think the problems that you two have,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I believe this. It is twenty percent, but it's twenty
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: percent compounded because it's extreme, and I'm gonna say this,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: and you guys have to say it. I strongly believe
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: if you two weren't on reality television, the twenty percent
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: of your problems would not be as high in as
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: it is, I think, and I think that's fair to say.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Honestly.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: The party, the pool party.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: I already told her, had we not been on television,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: had this just been a regular day, we were having
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: a pool party. One we wouldn't invited people to house.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: Some of these people wouldn't have been invited, so so
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: we would have already been in a more safe space
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 7: to be our full selves.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: If this was not on TV, we would have had
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: a wonderful time.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: And had she said those exact same words, well, one,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: I don't even think she.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: Would have said it that way, because.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I said, come on, bleed the dudes, what are you doing?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: I would have looked at it in a totally different light.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: Not you playing because the only reason I thought she
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: was playing me was because a couple of people who
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: were there, you know, had it just been our friends,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: we you know, we we joning on each other all
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: the time, like it wouldn't have been a thing. So
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 7: you know, take it for what it is worth. But
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: you know, I think the show does change how you
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: react sometimes, oh for sure.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: And listen, and I want to have some clarity. It
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with being fake or acting and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: just has listen. This camera is in front of me
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: and the red light is on, right, y'all have y'all
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: know me off camera and I have a big personality,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: but when this is on, there's a there's a there's.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: A heightened version of me, you know what I mean.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: And we're not gonna be talking like this a Houston's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: eating Hawaiian state not you.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: But but but you know, there's there's a that's true,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: but there's a there's a heightened version of it. There
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: are people though, Toyas and I do want to have
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: you addressed this. You know, we all know that, like
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: he even said five minutes ago on paper, he pretty
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: much scripted his dreamgirl and you came to life. You
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: didn't mention earlier that God had to tell you like no,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: this is your guy.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Was it hard or.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Challenging for you to welcome that that Eugene was your guy?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Were you looking for something different? Is he your type?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: So I, you know, people say it all the time.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: They're like, I want her vision board and whatever list
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: that she wrote for a man. So someone told me
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: years ago, write down all the things you need and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: your husband and then you an OUs girl. She needs
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: to write it down. She tod write it down. So
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: I wrote down my list, and she's like, don't be petty.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: So I never wrote on there that he had to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: be attractive. I thought those were little, petty, small things.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: I wrote that he had to be trustworthy because I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: had trust issues.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: I worked that. I wrote that he had to be
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: a provider.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: And at the time I was making like fifty grand
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: I said, so he at least make.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: A hundred, you know.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: I wrote that he had to be a good father
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: and that he could give me twins wrote, oh, it's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: very specific list good And I wrote that he had
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: to be sensitive with me and but strong to other people,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: you know. And I wanted him to be consistent. And
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: so there was all these things on this list. I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: should I should have brought it and that's yes, it's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: in my bible. And so when God told me he
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: was for me. The reason why he had to tell
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: me is because I also made a deal.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: With God, and I think that was bad.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: I said, if I'm not married by thirty, can you
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: take away the urge? Because I'm okay with being single.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: And at that time, I even wanted to write a book.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: It was going to be called Maximizing my Singleness, because
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: I felt like I was tent. You know, I had
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: went through so much growing up as a child that
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: I just was like, I'm happy, I'm at peace. I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: had my space, I had a great job I was
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: working for at the time, Pfizer ne Vartists. I was
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: doing my thing, and I didn't want to look like
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: I had missed something. And honestly, coming from Detroit, I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: was not in a hurry.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: To get married anyway.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, nobody's happy. There wasn't any you know,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: How in Atlanta we have so many married couples that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: we hang out with in Detroit?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Do you know one that we can hang out with
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: in Detroit?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Like, it's very difficult, And I just.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, you cousin, Tony, My god, I would hang out
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: with them and your friend and the guy that you
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: to schools, so we know.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Too, But that wasn't something you saw.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: Marriage was not a thing that I was excited about doing.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: I could care less about it at that time. And
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: so when he came around, Eugene was adamant. He was like,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get this girl, and he was. He did everything,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: and I did everything to chase him away.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Were you not attracted to him when first mat Yeah,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Tracked, Yeah, but I wasn't having sex with him.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, I literally had told him at that time.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I had went through this whole process of changing toy.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: I wasn't drinking, I wasn't I was saved. I wasn't
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: having sex right away, so I was like, I'm not
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: going to rush into that with you.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to get to know you.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: And it wasn't until somebody broken my car and took
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: my computer, and at the time, I was going back
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: to school for my masters, and he was like, I'm
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: gonna give you the key to my house and you
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: can use my computer anytime.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Baby.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: He did every thing right, honey, game, honey, that game
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: right now?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: That No, the thing is this, I hope you realize,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I'm going to disagree with you. I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: think it's a beautiful thing that you made a deal
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: with God. Because I made a deal with God about
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: something and it came true. I know what it feels
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: like to say, if it's not meant for me, give
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: me something else. And even career wise, I remember wanting
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: this life that I live right now so badly that
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because I thought it'd be
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: something a twenty two child, you know, Okay, And I'm like, God,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I'm twenty two and I'm not what I need to be.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: And I said, I have this urge and if it's
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: not meant to be taken away from me, like just
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: take it away.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I'll do whatever you want me to do. Right. So
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: the fact that.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: God brought you Eugene and thirty at thirty, that's my point.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: At thirty and God knew your stubborn self was yes, was.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's been thirty one. How to say, oh, you're
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: not from me?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: But you know, God, I hope you know this. That
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: robbery was God ordained.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, because it took that moment for you to realize
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I could be missing something so great.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Yes that.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I'm too busy trying to you know, make sure that
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: everything's whatever, checking the box.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: But my point in saying all of that to you
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: is this, eighteen.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Years later, he is still that guy that will give
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: you the key to many houses. Yes, to make sure
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: that you have something to look.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: At and tell me you figured out. I'm coming with you. Yes,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: what vacation are we going on? Toya? I want to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: go wherever you want to go?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: You know what car? You need, toy, you go get it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm good, the boys good. What they need,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: you can handle it. I'm not worried about the house
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: because you got it.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: That's him. Yeah.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: So I recognize that I have a very good blessing
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: and Eugene, and I'm grateful for that, you know. And
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: that's the only reason why I have such a conviction
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: when i'm when I do wrong by him, you know,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: because God give it, but he can take away, you know.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: And I know that's not what he wants, you know.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: And I know that sometimes I can be self destructive,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: you know, and I receive that.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: And.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: I'm trying not to be that way at fifty.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: Damn, I'm about to be fifty, you know, girl, Like
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: I can't keep doing that, you know, there's no chaos
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: here as the other people like to say, you know,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: but the people that will know me would love to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: call it that. The people that know and love us
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: will say things like someone said, this is the couple
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: I would love to be. You know, I need a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: man that's going to uplift and support and a woman
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: that he feels so safe that he doesn't even blink twice.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: I just.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: I'm just a work in progress.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: And that's fair. But to me, that's the beauty of life,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: right is. I don't want to live a life where
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I'm stagnant because I know everything.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I receive.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: God knows that some things be like God, I didn't
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: need that lesson, but I got you, bro. But my
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: point is you should be honored that Number one, you
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: get to live a life where you're constantly learning and growing.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, and you too are soulmates. You guys really are.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: You guys really are.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't want anything to disrupt this union that
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: is God ordained. Because there's people talk about the Sierra prayer,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: but we all want the toilet prayer.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: And we want the Eugene sketch.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So my last question is this.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to marriage.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's tons of people doctor Eugene Atoya who
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  Speaker 1: are disconnected. And you know there's people, I'm sure you
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  Speaker 1: know tons of them who use the D word divorce.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we've seen and I tell the world this
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  Speaker 1: all the time. My favorite seeing in the history of
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  Speaker 1: this show is when all of y'all rallied behind some
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  Speaker 1: moan and see cell to say, no, we're gonna fix this.
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  Speaker 1: But what advice do you give couples who feel like
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  Speaker 1: we've been together for X amount of years and you know,
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  Speaker 1: do we throw in the towel?
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  Speaker 7: I think you just have to every day choose your partner.
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  Speaker 7: I mean there's gonna be hard days. I mean that's
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  Speaker 7: just the reality of it. Like it would be I
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  Speaker 7: guess some utopia if we never had an argument, But
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  Speaker 7: that's just not realistic.
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  Speaker 5: You know, like even best of friends get in arguments.
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  Speaker 7: You know, So if you're gonna be with somebody for
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  Speaker 7: the long term, it's gonna be out external factors that
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  Speaker 7: come in.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to mess you all up.
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  Speaker 7: It's going to be internal stuff, mess you up, your past,
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  Speaker 7: all kinds of stuff. But as long as you each
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  Speaker 7: day choose, like I'm choosing her, you know, and then
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  Speaker 7: you work through those issues like you can.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you just got to keep choosing, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I think for me, the first question I would ask
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  Speaker 4: is do you still love each other?
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  Speaker 5: Not like them, love right?
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  Speaker 4: And you know, because if you are still in love
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  Speaker 4: with someone, then you can take the next step, which
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  Speaker 4: is learning to respect that person again. And I think
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  Speaker 4: sometimes when we get in the relationships, we get so
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  Speaker 4: comfortable with each other that we don't even realize that
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  Speaker 4: we're disrespecting each other and that.
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  Speaker 2: We're not.
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  Speaker 4: Uplifting each other and the way we need or or
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  Speaker 4: I'm not speaking to the man I need them to
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  Speaker 4: be as I'm speaking to that other person that I'm
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  Speaker 4: dealing without that outside.
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  Speaker 7: Can I interject one thing, this is the protector of me,
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  Speaker 7: like protecting my wife. I just hate this notion that
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  Speaker 7: Toy is just doing something to Eugene all the time.
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  Speaker 7: Like I didn't comment earlier, it was like, well, good
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  Speaker 7: thing he stood up for himself this time. Like, first
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  Speaker 7: of all, do I not push back on a lot
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  Speaker 7: of stuff, like you have to tell the world I'm
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  Speaker 7: not There are days I am not the easiest person
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  Speaker 7: to get along with. I know that but some of
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  Speaker 7: my some of my pushing buttons isn't so much, uh
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  Speaker 7: in an aggressive way. Sometimes it's not hearing her, I know,
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  Speaker 7: not hearing her. You have saped the door before you do.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he will yell throughout the house.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, yes, in my opinion, Yeah, I parents argue, gets going,
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  Speaker 8: what's your Yeah, we're both fire science.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And so once he is lit, Eugene, I'm like, stop
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  Speaker 4: texting me.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to if I think I've been wrong, I'm
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  Speaker 7: going to keep explaining and defending where I'm right. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 7: over and so I get it, you know, but nobody say, God.
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  Speaker 3: Forbid me tell this doctor.
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  Speaker 4: You know he's wrong in some way when every day
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  Speaker 4: he goes to work and he's right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's not true. That's okay, you can said that.
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  Speaker 2: Well I was right. I think I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think every day he goes to work, he he.
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  Speaker 2: He's on a mission to get the answer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the reality is this, So this is the part
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  Speaker 4: he's really leaving out and I really want And I
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  Speaker 4: talked to Carlos about it, and he said, well, can
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  Speaker 4: can you talk about that? And I said, yes, there
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  Speaker 4: there talk about pellas.
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  Speaker 3: And be honest, like, which part.
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  Speaker 5: How men are you know you're about to say.
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  Speaker 3: Right, because then you know the word I'm going to use.
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  Speaker 5: I think men and women.
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  Speaker 7: Once you hit about thirty five forty are testosterone deficient.
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  Speaker 7: Testosterone Actually a lot of people think testosterone is this
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  Speaker 7: aggressive hormone. It actually makes people nicer, it calms people down,
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  Speaker 7: and I think a lot of I think the divorce
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  Speaker 7: rate in this country, you know, probably is so high
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  Speaker 7: in people's late forties early fifties, is because you have
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  Speaker 7: hormone deficiencies that you don't realize, and you're thinking that
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  Speaker 7: every problem is your spouse. They're thinking every problem is you,
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  Speaker 7: and y'all go you separate. I think I am a
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  Speaker 7: much happier person when my testosterone level is appropriate, and.
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  Speaker 3: So from your own experience.
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  Speaker 4: He he didn't know that he had a hormone and
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  Speaker 4: back balance. I think I started realizing that when we
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  Speaker 4: had this one scene a couple of seasons ago and
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  Speaker 4: I asked him, how can.
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  Speaker 3: We make you happy? What are your hobbies?
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  Speaker 4: And he was like, I don't know, I don't And
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  Speaker 4: he really started realizing that he was just there like
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  Speaker 4: he wasn't his happy, go lucky fun self anymore.
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  Speaker 3: He had no energy to do anything. And then when.
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  Speaker 4: He discovered this whole testosterone imbalance and finally went to
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  Speaker 4: the doctor, they started trying different things on him like
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  Speaker 4: they would do with a woman who's going through mentalpause.
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  Speaker 4: And it's some imbalances that happened, just like with KWAHD
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  Speaker 4: And Kane said, well she was getting a shot. Your
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  Speaker 4: hormones be raging, and so I was dealing with a
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  Speaker 4: lot of hormones with my husband. That all of that,
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  Speaker 4: and so we for years when people were like, well
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  Speaker 4: she doesn't want to be married, it was because I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't understand who this person was, you know, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: does he.
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  Speaker 2: Want to be married?
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  Speaker 4: Like we both were like how do we fix this?
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  Speaker 3: Like what's wrong?
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  Speaker 4: And so now that my husband has this amazing clinic
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  Speaker 4: Recharged Wellness, he is literally educating men and helping them
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  Speaker 4: to get to that place. Because he even said that
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  Speaker 4: he thinks that his parents would have still been in
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  Speaker 4: a happy place had his father known, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: like I said, I don't want to tell your story.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's big, and that's that's part of your wellness.
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  Speaker 1: So how can people reach out to you to gain
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  Speaker 1: information and stuff?
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  Speaker 2: From that.
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  Speaker 5: So if you go to www.
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  Speaker 7: Dot Recharge Wellness Health, you can have a lot of
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: information there. That's where you can make appointments. I'm a
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: concierge service, so I only take a certain amount of people.
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  Speaker 7: But if you make an appointment, there would be like
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  Speaker 7: a thirty minute time slot where we get on the
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  Speaker 7: phone and we figure out what we need to do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look at how different is his weight loss
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  Speaker 3: is down?
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  Speaker 2: You know it's between him and Steve.
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  Speaker 3: No competition, my man, don't have to put on that's
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  Speaker 3: right here.
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  Speaker 1: No, we love you, Jane. Listen, I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: I want to listen. You know you're my sister in
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  Speaker 1: real life.
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  Speaker 2: I want to thank you for your brunt ability.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I really, I really do, I really do,
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  Speaker 1: because I know it's been tough for you and and
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  Speaker 1: like you said, we've had conversations off off camp on camera,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, in our real life.
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  Speaker 2: And I was so happy to get the two of you.
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  Speaker 4: Because I was scared, you know, I was like, oh,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: the world to judge me anymore?
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  Speaker 2: Id you Carlos? And I said, come on my podcast,
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Because listen, I know you're not one no, but I
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  Speaker 1: also know the power of this medium, which is the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: to be able to just have you, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: speak on things that you know the world is going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to view. And I know that when
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: it comes to the two of you, you two are
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  Speaker 1: meant to be together. And all couples go through their stuff,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: but a lot of them aren't on TV broadcasting it.
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  Speaker 1: And as somebody who produces television and works on shows
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  Speaker 1: about love and marriage pun intended back March seventh, what
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  Speaker 1: I will say is you two are the epitome of
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  Speaker 1: black excellence and black couple goals as well.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to applaud the two of.
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  Speaker 1: You for being so honest and brunnabo and sorry, ladies,
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  Speaker 1: he's taken all right. Marrition Medicine airs every Sunday, nine
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• 1:20:38
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• 1:20:40
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