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Girl dressed for party found dead in freezer · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace on Sirius XM Triumph Channel one thirty
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Speaker 1: two number one. There emergency And I was comming because
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Speaker 1: my daughter came to this party here last night. I
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Speaker 1: gathering with a frand now her friends. They said, to
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Speaker 1: the left on the front of the hotel, and she's
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Speaker 1: not able to be found. Now give a couple of hours.
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Speaker 1: You know she could have won, you know, she could
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Speaker 1: once more. With one of her other friends. The mom
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Speaker 1: went to the front desk, asking will you please look
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Speaker 1: at the videos from the very beginning, and got nothing
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Speaker 1: but resistance from the Crown Plaza Hotel. The inference today
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Speaker 1: that had Kannika and how or the security cameras jack
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Speaker 1: sooner she might be alive. They never looked for they
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Speaker 1: never did anything while a young nineteen year old disoriented
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Speaker 1: girl was sitting in their freezer. We beg if I happen,
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Speaker 1: No one happens. Uh subjects in the kitchen and a freezers.
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Speaker 1: A beautiful young girl dead trapped in a freezer? How
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Speaker 1: did that happen? Right now? Many theories swirling as the
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Speaker 1: investigation goes on into the death of a beautiful young girl,
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Speaker 1: Kanneka Jenkins. I mean, I see grace. This is crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. With me special guest
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Speaker 1: Larry Rogers, junior lawyer for the family of Kannika Jenkins,
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Speaker 1: a well known a veteran trial lawyer. Also with me
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCullum, crime scene analyst and the director of the
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Speaker 1: Cold Case Institute. Questions swirling around the death of this
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Speaker 1: young girl, Kaneka Jenkins found debt in highly questionable circumstances.
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Speaker 1: Out to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Jacqueline Gray, Jacqueline,
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Speaker 1: tell me what you know about this case. Kannica left
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Speaker 1: out of her house late on September eight to go
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Speaker 1: to the Crown Plaza hotel in Rosemont, Illinois, and by
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Speaker 1: about three am the next day, her friends alerted her
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Speaker 1: mother that they couldn't find her. So her mother went
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Speaker 1: to the hotel searching for her daughter, and over the
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Speaker 1: course of what twelve hours, they end up finding her body.
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Speaker 1: In a freezer in an area that was under construction.
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Speaker 1: From what I recall, Larry Rogers, when she was found
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Speaker 1: dead from hypothermia inside an industrial type refrigerator there in
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Speaker 1: the bottom of pretty high end hotel. Her pants were
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Speaker 1: pulled down around her hips, her shirt was pulled up
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Speaker 1: around her bra her her jeans were filthy as if
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Speaker 1: she had been dragged along the ground. There were abrasions
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Speaker 1: to her knee area, her legs, her face. There is
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Speaker 1: no way this is accidental. And what's interesting, Larry Rogers,
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Speaker 1: is the night before she had been all dressed up
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Speaker 1: to go to a fancy party there in the hotel.
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Speaker 1: There's no way this girl, who took so much care
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Speaker 1: getting all dressed up with all her little friends, went
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Speaker 1: anywhere covered in dirt. That's not how it went down, Larry.
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Speaker 1: Let's start at the beginning. What happened? You know, That's
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Speaker 1: exactly what her mother, Uh the question she raised when
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Speaker 1: she contacted me. She wanted me to help her figure
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Speaker 1: out what happened to Kanika, her daughter. Uh. This is
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Speaker 1: this is one of the worst tragedies I've seen, um
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Speaker 1: and it's quite frankly, as you indicated, shocking that this
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Speaker 1: young lady was found in the condition she was found
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Speaker 1: where she was found. Her shirt had been pulled up
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Speaker 1: with her breast exposed, her pants were slightly pulled down
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Speaker 1: below her waistline, her her shoe, one of her shoes,
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Speaker 1: was off, and she was her clothing was dirty. And
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Speaker 1: as you indicated, she had gone out for a night
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Speaker 1: of fun with some friends. Uh and and then she
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Speaker 1: ends up in this remote area of the hotel, in
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Speaker 1: an unused kitchen, in a freezer that, for I'm explained
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Speaker 1: unexplained reason, was on a freezer that was not being used.
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Speaker 1: It had nothing in it, but it was on in
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Speaker 1: a in an abandoned portion of the kitchen. So there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of questions that need to be answered,
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Speaker 1: and we've committed to the mind and we'll get to
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Speaker 1: the bottom of it. Joining me Cheryl McCullum, crime scene
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Speaker 1: analysts and expert renowned in her field, now the director
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Speaker 1: of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. Cheryl, thanks for
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Speaker 1: being with us along with Larry Rogers, junior trial lawyer
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Speaker 1: representing Knnika's family. Let's take it from the beginning. You know,
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Speaker 1: I met with her mother, Cheryl, along with Larry when
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Speaker 1: we were all at Dr Oz and her mom just
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Speaker 1: broke my heart because I got the feeling that she
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Speaker 1: felt if she yelled or cursed or through some kind
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Speaker 1: of a fit trying to find her daughter should be mistreated.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, she was right because os they
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Speaker 1: go to the hotel. What was the hotel, Larry, the Crown,
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Speaker 1: Crown Plausa. That's right, Clouds Crown in Rosema, Chicago, really
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Speaker 1: high end. The Crown hotels are pretty nice. So she
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Speaker 1: was there, Cheryl with all her little girl friends, all
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Speaker 1: dressed up and cute, and you know how teen girls are,
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Speaker 1: and um, so she goes then this is what the mom.
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Speaker 1: I heard the mom say that she gets to call
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Speaker 1: at four o'clock in the morning and Kanick a little
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Speaker 1: friends say, we can't find Kanka, And the mom is
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Speaker 1: like what because they were all three together. So she
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Speaker 1: immediately dials her daughter her teen girls phone, and one
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Speaker 1: of the three friends picking up go, we've got her
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Speaker 1: cell phone too, So the mom they come get the mom.
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Speaker 1: The mom comes over there, they totally blow the mom off.
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Speaker 1: They asked to see the security video, which got a
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Speaker 1: huge security bank a video Cheryl. They won't let them
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Speaker 1: look at the video. And they won't start searching the hotel.
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Speaker 1: They say, basically, oh, she's at with friends. Now, this
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Speaker 1: child has been described as drunk. She was not drunk.
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Speaker 1: She was not repeat, not drunk or high on drugs.
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Speaker 1: That's not true. So they look and they look and
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Speaker 1: they look Cheryl like, I forgot how many eighteen twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours later, the police finally, somebody finally finds her
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Speaker 1: dead in a freezer. You know, she could have been saved,
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Speaker 1: you know that, right if they had just looked at
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Speaker 1: the crime at the video surveillance is shows her and
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Speaker 1: it shows where she was going to, like a construction
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Speaker 1: type unused area that completely abandoned. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: she got down there because that Crown hotels like a maze.
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Speaker 1: So what do you make of it? Now that I've
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Speaker 1: given you the setup, Nancy Cook a little bit of
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Speaker 1: time to really go over these calm seen photographs. And
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Speaker 1: these are the things that jumped out at me as
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Speaker 1: four main things. One the shoe that's off, the shoe
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Speaker 1: that is off of her body, the right shoe you
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Speaker 1: can see blood on her foot, so that shoe was
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Speaker 1: not taken off because her body started to heat up.
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Speaker 1: She removed that shoe because she was injured. You can
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Speaker 1: see the blood plain is day. The other thing that
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Speaker 1: bothers me about her shoes is their brand new. They
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Speaker 1: are clean, they are white. I mean, she was excited
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Speaker 1: about putting on this outfit. But there's some scuff marks
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Speaker 1: on the shoe that they're gonna have to explain to me.
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Speaker 1: And specifically they are scuff marks up near the ankles
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Speaker 1: on the inside that to me could very possibly be
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Speaker 1: indicative of somebody being drugs um. The other problem that
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Speaker 1: I'm having is the pocket of her pants has turned
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Speaker 1: inside out, like somebody went into her pocket. She wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have done that. She would have corrected her pocket immediately
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Speaker 1: if she had gone to look for a key or
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Speaker 1: something like that. U And then the other thing that's
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Speaker 1: very telling to me if you watch the video where
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Speaker 1: she's walking in the kitchen area toward what looks like
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Speaker 1: would be where the freezer is, even though it's a
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Speaker 1: video of that, for some reason, her hair is straight.
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Speaker 1: If you look at the crime scene photograph, her hair
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Speaker 1: is now curly. Now, hold on, hold on to Larry Rogers,
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Speaker 1: junior lawyer for Kannika Jenkins family. Do you remember what
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Speaker 1: the mom told us Larry. She said that she went
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Speaker 1: to go and she wanted to see the crime scene,
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Speaker 1: and they went and't let her. Then she said she
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Speaker 1: saw the body and she just looked at She said
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Speaker 1: Kanika's hair was a mess and she would never have
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Speaker 1: done that. Uh. Yes, this this is a beautiful young girl.
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Speaker 1: She by all accounts, she was just having a night
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Speaker 1: out with some friends. She was not a bad girl.
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Speaker 1: She was working. She was a great young ay. Her
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Speaker 1: mom had a great relationship with her. And a testament
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Speaker 1: to that is the fact that when her friends told
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Speaker 1: her they were missing, no one for one moment that
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Speaker 1: she ever left that hotel. Her friends now, she had
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Speaker 1: to be somewhere in the hotel. When her mom, Teresa
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Speaker 1: came out within hours, she went straight to the front
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Speaker 1: desk and said she would never have left. She's here
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Speaker 1: in this hotel and they would not take a moment,
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Speaker 1: just a moment to take a look at the video
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Speaker 1: surveillance cameras and that would have saved this young lady's life.
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Speaker 1: Investigative reporter her crime Online Jacqueline Great Jacqueline, what jumps
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Speaker 1: out at you about what went wrong that night? A
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Speaker 1: few things jump out and most of the things that
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Speaker 1: jump out is after Teresa Martina's mother went to the
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Speaker 1: hotel looking for help, the hotel staff wouldn't look at
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Speaker 1: the footage until much hours later. She was also threatened
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Speaker 1: with the rest. She called the dispatcher and they told
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Speaker 1: her to just take it easy, you know, go home. Um,
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Speaker 1: she'll probably turn up. And that's not, in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: not the appropriate response to a mother who knows her
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Speaker 1: child's missing. And she was right, you know, her child
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Speaker 1: end up dying. Meanwhile, she was trying to find her
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Speaker 1: and she was getting no help from police or from
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Speaker 1: the hotel staff. And that's you know, one thing that
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Speaker 1: pops out to me right now. It would have saved
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Speaker 1: her life. It absolutely would have saved her life. Cheryl McCollum,
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Speaker 1: maybe there's no question about it, But I want to
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Speaker 1: get back to the importance of her hair for a minute.
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Speaker 1: When ever I was on your show, sometimes y'all was
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Speaker 1: occasionally straightened my hair. Well, I've got an actually curly hair.
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Speaker 1: The minute there was any humidity, any moisture, my hair
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Speaker 1: would revert back to being curly. That means her hair
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Speaker 1: was either wet or she was sweaty. Something happened to
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Speaker 1: make her hair go back curly, Nancy. That is not
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Speaker 1: somebody that went into a free there, passed out and
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Speaker 1: froze to death. That's not what happened here. And you
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Speaker 1: don't have to look any further than her hair to
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Speaker 1: know that. And something else that needs to happen. Um,
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Speaker 1: unless they already know, because I haven't seen the photograph,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't appear that there's scuff marks on the inside
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Speaker 1: of that door where she would have been kicking it
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Speaker 1: trying to get out. I don't see any marks like that.
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Speaker 1: Her fingernails are feel intact. There's there's so many questions
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Speaker 1: surrounding this case. For me, Nancy, it is horrifying. Newly
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Speaker 1: released surveillance video shows Kanika stumbling in the hallway, she
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Speaker 1: got lost within the hotel, and then we later discover
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Speaker 1: apparently someone had slipped a very dangerous drug. Chryl McCollum
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Speaker 1: is called to a pyramid and it is an anti
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Speaker 1: seizure drug. It is also a pain drug and um
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Speaker 1: it can make you very very disoriented. This little girl
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Speaker 1: had never in her life been caught with drugs, been alcohol,
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Speaker 1: nothing like that in her life. This was a good student.
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Speaker 1: Her mother depended on her. She had a job the works.
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Speaker 1: Very actually, I don't want to say a loner because
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Speaker 1: that has a bad connotation. She reminds me a lot
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Speaker 1: of my little girl, Lucy. She's very, very shy, you know, Cheryl.
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Speaker 1: Any night I say, hey, do you guys want to
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Speaker 1: go out to dinner? And John David is all like, yeah, Mom,
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Speaker 1: let's go for tacos and then we'll go to frozen yoga.
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Speaker 1: And Lucy's like, I just want to go home. You
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Speaker 1: know what, No matter how are you trying to tempt
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Speaker 1: them that she always wants to come home. That she
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Speaker 1: really was a sweet girl. Yeah, her mom convinced me,
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Speaker 1: and the sister that I talked to also she was
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Speaker 1: a real homebody. And I just don't see it. Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: I don't see it at all. I don't see it either,
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Speaker 1: nath You know, I'll tell you something else that really
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Speaker 1: confirms me. As you know, I've got two teenagers now,
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Speaker 1: and to get them away and separate them from the
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Speaker 1: cell phone takes they act the Congress practically. The fact
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Speaker 1: that she was somehow separated from her cell phone confirms
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Speaker 1: me greatly. She would not have done that, and that
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Speaker 1: means she had no way to call for help. Cheryl
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Speaker 1: I left something out to Larry Rogers Jr. Uh renewed lawyer.
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Speaker 1: There's representing Kannika Jenkins family. So the mom comes to
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Speaker 1: the hotel. They won't let her look at the security video.
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Speaker 1: They won't look at the security video. Finally, some of
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Speaker 1: the kids that were at the party, they have cell
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Speaker 1: phone pictures of Kanika before that night, and they start
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Speaker 1: going from door to door begging people, have you seen her?
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Speaker 1: Have you seen her? Do you know what they do?
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Speaker 1: They throw the family out, They kick them out and
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Speaker 1: call police. All the family, hello is the right? Did
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Speaker 1: not take their Their pleas, for their pleas for assistance
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Speaker 1: and for help, even just looking at the cameras were ignored,
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Speaker 1: and they got desperate. They were looking for her. They
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Speaker 1: knew that she was not the type of young lady
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Speaker 1: they would have left the hotel. They knocked on doors,
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Speaker 1: someone even pulled a fire alarm, and the only wait, wait, wait,
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Speaker 1: tell us that part, tell us that part. They were
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Speaker 1: so desperate to find her, and nobody was helping them.
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Speaker 1: Tell them. What tell Sheryl? What happened? Larry Rodgers, one
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Speaker 1: of the one of the young people pulled the fire
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Speaker 1: alarm because they felt she was somewhere in the hotel.
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Speaker 1: They didn't know if she was in the room and
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Speaker 1: someone had abducted her exactly what had happened. And that's
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Speaker 1: the only thing that really prompted the beginnings of an
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Speaker 1: investigation by by the Roseman Police Department. They finally came
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Speaker 1: out and said, what's really going on here? And that's
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Speaker 1: really what prompted. So a lot of credit has to
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Speaker 1: be given to this family and to these young people
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Speaker 1: knowing Kinika and knowing that she might have left that hotel.
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Speaker 1: If they're pleased, had only been heard by the hotel staff,
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Speaker 1: this young lady would be alive today. Well, I'm telling
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Speaker 1: you it's a it's a sorry day. It is a
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Speaker 1: sad day, Cheryl, when you you can't get any help
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Speaker 1: and you have to pull the darn fire alarm to
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Speaker 1: get someone to pay attention to you trying to say
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Speaker 1: your daughter is missing and she's somewhere in this hotel,
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Speaker 1: can you help me find her? They had to pull
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Speaker 1: the fire alarm. Now listen to this timeline and correct
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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Larry Rogers, because you know the
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Speaker 1: timeline better than me. This team girl was seen leaving
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Speaker 1: the elevator alone, which she had not left alone. She
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Speaker 1: was with the little girlfriends to start with. At three
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Speaker 1: twenty a m. Somebody somewhere had slipped her topiramate, okay,
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Speaker 1: which is not a street drug, all right, Nobody in
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Speaker 1: her family has ever had topiramide. It's a seizure medication.
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Speaker 1: And she is just struggling to even keep her balance,
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Speaker 1: and you see her. I don't know where the security
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Speaker 1: guards were at the Crown Plaza Hotel, but they sure.
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Speaker 1: We're not looking at the security bank because she can
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Speaker 1: hardly walk. She's falling into the walls, and this is
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Speaker 1: not from being drunk. She then espotted somehow down in
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Speaker 1: this maze of a kitchen there beneath the Crown Plaza Hotel,
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Speaker 1: and she gets somehow, somehow to completely abandoned area that
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Speaker 1: has not been locked off from for people to come into.
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Speaker 1: Then there's no camera that shows how she got put
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Speaker 1: into that freezer, but we know somewhere something went wrong.
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Speaker 1: Her hair is a mess, there's blood on her foot,
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Speaker 1: her pants are pulled down, her shirt is pulled up.
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Speaker 1: Everything is askew. There's no scuff marks, nothing to show
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Speaker 1: she tried to get out I don't quite understand it,
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Speaker 1: but the whole thing was she did a three twenty
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Speaker 1: a m or should have been spotted on the security video.
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Speaker 1: That's what it shows now that we've gotten a chance
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Speaker 1: to look at it. Do you know when they finally
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Speaker 1: told police they were on the phone with a mom
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Speaker 1: at four am, we can't find Kanika one pm. Then
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Speaker 1: that day that almost twelve hours passed. Actually it was
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Speaker 1: more like twenty one hours. It was the next morning
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Speaker 1: that they finally looked Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it was
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Speaker 1: by the time they found her. She goes missing at
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Speaker 1: three twenty am. It was after one am she's found dead.
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Speaker 1: All that time, Cheryl, the parents, the mom was begging
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Speaker 1: for help, couldn't get anybody to listen. Let me pause
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Speaker 1: What more can you tell me? My whole I was
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Speaker 1: having while I was writing about this and reading about
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Speaker 1: it was there was why was she down there? You
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Speaker 1: know that it was an under construction area. They had
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Speaker 1: cam us everywhere but the freezer, which I would feel
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Speaker 1: like that would be lucky, huge liability of freezer, you know,
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Speaker 1: heavy freezer. It's not being supervised. That whole part I
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Speaker 1: feel like hasn't been acknowledged by the hotel. It seems
22:12
Speaker 1: like right now they're doing a lot of damage control,
22:14
Speaker 1: but they're not really giving still giving us enough information
22:18
Speaker 1: to work with to get a timeline out of the
22:21
Speaker 1: forty six or so cameras that they had surveillance cameras
22:25
Speaker 1: that they had there on the premises, there are two
22:28
Speaker 1: significant ones that would have captured her path towards this kitchen,
22:34
Speaker 1: and for some and strange reason, they're claiming those were
22:37
Speaker 1: not working. Just a lot of unexplained um issues here
22:43
Speaker 1: with this case, and we want to get to the
22:44
Speaker 1: bottom of them. Nathan, I got to jump in here
22:47
Speaker 1: as a Crown State investigator. I'll pull a video from
22:51
Speaker 1: hotels all the time. All you have to do is
22:54
Speaker 1: type in the date and the time it is all digital.
22:58
Speaker 1: It would have shown them immediately. It would not have
23:02
Speaker 1: taken ten minutes Nancy to see her path and to
23:07
Speaker 1: follow it. And Carl, Cheryl, Larry, I know I told you.
23:14
Speaker 1: Larry knows this story, Cheryl. Did I ever tell you?
23:17
Speaker 1: When I was in Arizona, and of course I knew
23:20
Speaker 1: I'd be gone over two nights, so I took the
23:22
Speaker 1: children with me. They at that time where I guess five.
23:25
Speaker 1: It was during the Jodi Arias trial, and we were
23:29
Speaker 1: staying in this high rise hotel and we were on
23:32
Speaker 1: the waiting for the elevator, and it was a big
23:35
Speaker 1: bank of elevators, like ten elevators, five on each side,
23:39
Speaker 1: and we were waiting and one open at the far end,
23:42
Speaker 1: and I said, that's not the one going the right way, guys, honey.
23:46
Speaker 1: Lucy at the last second jumped on the elevator and
23:50
Speaker 1: it closed. I dove for it. I dove head first
23:53
Speaker 1: for it, Cheryl, I tried. I dove into the elevator
23:56
Speaker 1: and it closed, just like in the movies. Cheryl, do
24:00
Speaker 1: you hear what I'm saying? There was me and John
24:02
Speaker 1: David and I and Lucy lost on an elevator and
24:06
Speaker 1: it was one of those fancy elevators. I couldn't tell
24:07
Speaker 1: what floor she got off at anything. I Oh, dear
24:11
Speaker 1: Lord in heaven. I immediately went to the lobby, screaming
24:13
Speaker 1: my head off. Left. John David with security, told them
24:17
Speaker 1: what was happening, and I started going up floor to Florida,
24:19
Speaker 1: Florida floor, screaming off the elevators. I was can you
24:23
Speaker 1: imagine if some creepy, pervy tude got Lucy at four
24:30
Speaker 1: or five years old, and the little thing thought she
24:33
Speaker 1: was on our floor where we were staying, and was
24:36
Speaker 1: trying to find it. Well, I went every floor, I
24:39
Speaker 1: couldn't find her. I was dialing nine on one, I
24:41
Speaker 1: was on the elevator and it wouldn't go through. I
24:43
Speaker 1: got off the elevator, hit sin for nine on one
24:46
Speaker 1: and turned to my left and there was a security
24:48
Speaker 1: with Lucy, A lady with Lucy and John David. A
24:52
Speaker 1: lady had found her like three floors down, wandering the
24:56
Speaker 1: hall alone. Cheryl a to where she was going and
25:01
Speaker 1: took her down to the lobby. What I experienced and
25:05
Speaker 1: that twenty minutes I never want to think about again.
25:09
Speaker 1: And that's what this mom has been living through ever
25:13
Speaker 1: since this happened, Cheryl, inexcusable and according to the Lauren
25:18
Speaker 1: lawyer with me right now, Larry Roger says, the hotel
25:21
Speaker 1: quote never checked, they never searched, they never did anything
25:26
Speaker 1: while a young teen girl was dying in their freezer.
25:31
Speaker 1: Why why, Larry. It's inexplicable. It's inexcusable, and we expect
25:38
Speaker 1: the hold of the before we accountable for it. The
25:40
Speaker 1: Crown Plaza has not produced any legitimate explanation for why
25:43
Speaker 1: they couldn't do the simple thing of looking at the cameras.
25:47
Speaker 1: Why do you have the cameras if you don't even
25:49
Speaker 1: take the time to do what I'm just so beside
25:53
Speaker 1: myself about this child. And if you look at her
25:56
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, Cheryl, this is just before she is
26:01
Speaker 1: in the freezer. Her hair is straight, her pants are
26:04
Speaker 1: on on her, her shoes are fine. There's no cut,
26:08
Speaker 1: nothing like that. She's perfectly fine, still all dressed up,
26:12
Speaker 1: with her hair all done up and a little Jeane
26:14
Speaker 1: outfit on. She's fine. I'm looking at her right now
26:18
Speaker 1: as we're talking. I'm looking at the video walking through
26:21
Speaker 1: that abandoned kitchen, probably trying to find her way out
26:24
Speaker 1: of there. She's fine. Well, Nathy, let me just safety obvious.
26:29
Speaker 1: We keep being told that nobody was watching those cameras.
26:32
Speaker 1: We don't know that maybe somebody did see her, maybe
26:35
Speaker 1: somebody followed her after a little while. Another thing. Larry Rogers,
26:39
Speaker 1: junior lawyer for the Kannika Jenkins family. The mother told
26:43
Speaker 1: me that when she went down to see the freezer,
26:48
Speaker 1: when they finally let her see it, that there was
26:51
Speaker 1: a video camera on top of it, blinking red and
26:54
Speaker 1: she said, what did that camera show? Remember what she said, Larry,
27:00
Speaker 1: that's correct. She thinks that she She's described consistently a
27:04
Speaker 1: camera that she says should have captured her daughter walking
27:08
Speaker 1: in that freezer. And we've been able to identify any
27:12
Speaker 1: footage that they've produced from a camera that that depicts that. Uh,
27:17
Speaker 1: and not only that, there are other cameras that would
27:20
Speaker 1: should have caught her path that Again, we've got no
27:23
Speaker 1: footage from their claiming that they weren't working at the time.
27:26
Speaker 1: So again, a lot of unanswered questions, um, a lot
27:30
Speaker 1: of questions about her. Now we have reached out to
27:33
Speaker 1: the Crown Plaza, the Crown a Plaza hotel and have
27:37
Speaker 1: not heard anything back from them. Now, I don't know
27:40
Speaker 1: what that means nothing, but I'm anxious to hear their
27:44
Speaker 1: side of this. I want to hear their side of this.
27:47
Speaker 1: What else does the autopsy reveal? Uh, Larry Rogers Junior
27:52
Speaker 1: with me, Cheryl McCullum with me, Cheryl, what did you
27:55
Speaker 1: see that sparked her interest in her autopsy? Well, be
28:00
Speaker 1: plee that were a boid. Alcohol was not that high
28:02
Speaker 1: to you know, be indicative of her walking the way
28:05
Speaker 1: she was walking. But the drugs in her system or
28:07
Speaker 1: the drug in her system again, some of the folks
28:11
Speaker 1: that have wh were at that party that have not
28:13
Speaker 1: been interviewed by the police need to come forward. There
28:17
Speaker 1: needs to be a full investigation of how that drug
28:21
Speaker 1: got into her system and called her to be incapacitated. Jacqueline,
28:26
Speaker 1: what do you make of the autopsy? What I make
28:30
Speaker 1: out of it is that there's not really much hair.
28:33
Speaker 1: It just seems like another effort to brush off her
28:35
Speaker 1: death as an accident. Um. One of the biggest things
28:39
Speaker 1: that I noticed in the autopsy was they had said
28:42
Speaker 1: she died from hypothermia with alcohol intoxication and to pyramid,
28:48
Speaker 1: which is a drug that's used for to treat epilepsy
28:52
Speaker 1: and migraines, and they said that that was in her
28:54
Speaker 1: system and that it was an contributing factor. But from
28:58
Speaker 1: what we're hearing from her family is that she was
29:00
Speaker 1: never prescribed this drug. They have no clueoud got in
29:03
Speaker 1: her system, and there's really no explanation why it was
29:07
Speaker 1: in her system. They mentioned that there was no date
29:09
Speaker 1: rate drugs in her system, that her her blood alcohol
29:13
Speaker 1: content was point one one two, and at one point
29:16
Speaker 1: they said there was no evidence that she was forced
29:18
Speaker 1: to take the drug, which at this point I don't
29:21
Speaker 1: get how they could tell whether she was forced or
29:24
Speaker 1: whether it was slipped in her drink. But there's really
29:26
Speaker 1: no explanation on why, of all the drugs, party drugs
29:31
Speaker 1: or what not, why was this in her system. Yeah,
29:34
Speaker 1: we are very concerned with Rosemont's police department having closed
29:38
Speaker 1: the investigation so quickly and concluded that there was no
29:43
Speaker 1: file play. A lot of the questions have not been answered.
29:46
Speaker 1: Their hotel staff that was president in the hotel, who
29:49
Speaker 1: has not been interviewed. UH this this investigation is far
29:53
Speaker 1: from over and rose My prematurely that there was no
29:58
Speaker 1: file play here. We need to figure exactly what happened.
30:01
Speaker 1: Why is her why does she have the injury to
30:04
Speaker 1: a foot that we see under the un the under
30:07
Speaker 1: the pictures um Why does her hair look the way
30:10
Speaker 1: it is? Why? Why if her clothing displaced? All of
30:14
Speaker 1: those are questions that need to be answered. In addition,
30:17
Speaker 1: why is this camera footage and video footage missing? The
30:22
Speaker 1: Crown Plaza has not provided any legitimate explanation for why
30:25
Speaker 1: there is missing video footage and in particular, why would
30:29
Speaker 1: it be video footage? They would you know, yeah, And
30:31
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they wouldn't let them look at
30:34
Speaker 1: the video footage. Now, this is what they're saying now.
30:36
Speaker 1: A spokesperson for the Crown Plaza Hotel said that they
30:40
Speaker 1: have extended the offer to Kinnikua's family to privately view
30:44
Speaker 1: thirty six total hours of surveillance footage from forty different cameras.
30:49
Speaker 1: Inside quote. Our hearts go out to the the Kinnikua's mother,
30:55
Speaker 1: her family and friends. We hope covering the funeral costs
30:58
Speaker 1: provide a small bit relief for them, says the hostel
31:03
Speaker 1: hotel spokesperson Glenn Harston. Huh, what do you what do
31:07
Speaker 1: you think about that? Larry Rogers Jr. That was an
31:11
Speaker 1: offer they extended early on, we received the video footage
31:15
Speaker 1: and looked at it, and again there is footage that's
31:18
Speaker 1: missing from cameras we know to have been present. And
31:22
Speaker 1: we've got no explanation about why those cameras didn't capture
31:25
Speaker 1: this young lady and what would have happened to that
31:27
Speaker 1: video footage. Huh. So you really believe that there's missing
31:30
Speaker 1: video footage. I know that there are cameras. I saw
31:33
Speaker 1: them myself. I've toured the facility. I saw the cameras
31:37
Speaker 1: and they would have captured the path that they are
31:40
Speaker 1: describing Kanika to have been, to have traveled towards this
31:44
Speaker 1: freezer area. And no, no video footage from those cameras
31:49
Speaker 1: that she was alive at one a because she sent
31:51
Speaker 1: a text message at one thirty a m. And that's
31:55
Speaker 1: the last that was heard of her. You know, another
31:59
Speaker 1: thing that really hurt me when I was talking to
32:02
Speaker 1: the mom, Larry Rogers, was that she kept trying to
32:06
Speaker 1: quote rein it in stay in control. And I'll tell
32:10
Speaker 1: you what I think. I believe that if I told
32:16
Speaker 1: Dr os this and said, Oz, if you had gone
32:18
Speaker 1: to that lobby and you had asked to seeing surveillance
32:22
Speaker 1: video and report your daughter missing. That has showed it
32:25
Speaker 1: to you. But I think that they totally discounted her
32:32
Speaker 1: because she was a woman, because it was late at night,
32:36
Speaker 1: because she's a minority, because the whole group was perceived
32:41
Speaker 1: as partying. And in fact, what she called one which
32:46
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play for you in a minute, the mom
32:49
Speaker 1: trying to report the daughter missing. And what did they
32:52
Speaker 1: tell her? Larry Rogers Jr. They told her to give
32:56
Speaker 1: it a few hours. You know, this is a mom
32:58
Speaker 1: who knew her daughter. She got up out of her
33:01
Speaker 1: bed and went to the hotel. She knew that Knika
33:04
Speaker 1: would never have left the premises alone or with anyone voluntarily,
33:09
Speaker 1: and she went out there. She reported to the Crown
33:11
Speaker 1: Plaza staff. They didn't help her. She called nine one one.
33:15
Speaker 1: Rosemont told her to give it a few hours. I
33:18
Speaker 1: want you to hear Kniqua's mom calling nine one one,
33:25
Speaker 1: judge for yourself. Number one was the address your emergency. Yes,
33:32
Speaker 1: I'm at this Crown Crown Plaza O heare Air Force
33:36
Speaker 1: And I was calling because my daughter came to this
33:39
Speaker 1: to a party here last night, I gathering with her
33:42
Speaker 1: friends and um now her friends. They said that they
33:47
Speaker 1: left on the front of the hotel and she's not
33:49
Speaker 1: able to be found. Now she's ninety years old, so
33:53
Speaker 1: so what the wol would you suggest? Well again again,
33:58
Speaker 1: the only thing I would just maybe just um, you know,
34:02
Speaker 1: give her a couple of hours. You know, she could
34:04
Speaker 1: have won. You know, she could have once some more
34:05
Speaker 1: with one of her other friends. I mean, and who
34:07
Speaker 1: knows what her friends are saying. It's true, you know
34:10
Speaker 1: what I mean exactly. That's the day you could say
34:14
Speaker 1: and not to be saying. You could say it. Don't
34:16
Speaker 1: say I'm right, I'm a parent. I've been young before,
34:19
Speaker 1: and it's not saying it right. It don't sound right here.
34:22
Speaker 1: That's why I came. I heard myself. So when do
34:24
Speaker 1: you come out desitate for me to fallow me? Some
34:27
Speaker 1: person report? Well, well you can, you can file it
34:29
Speaker 1: and at any time. It's just like I said, you know,
34:33
Speaker 1: just do you just give it a little bit of time.
34:35
Speaker 1: You know, if if you hadn't heard from her by
34:37
Speaker 1: I want to say about end eleven o'clock, then by
34:40
Speaker 1: all means, you'll give us a call again. You can
34:42
Speaker 1: come to the station and we can help you out
34:45
Speaker 1: from there. Okay, thank you, I do that okay, thank
34:49
Speaker 1: you very much. Okay, okay, are you very welcome, have
34:53
Speaker 1: a good day. That and I woman call. It's seven
34:56
Speaker 1: fifteen a m. Man, but she gets called a little
34:59
Speaker 1: left or four a m. Gets dressed, goes to the hotel,
35:03
Speaker 1: tries to get help searching, finally with no help at all.
35:09
Speaker 1: In fact, the mom's nearly arrested. She makes a missing
35:12
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35:17
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35:21
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being our partner today in our search
37:24
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37:29
Speaker 1: I hope you've got your seatbelts buckled. I want you
37:34
Speaker 1: to hear the dispatch call when Kanika's dead body was
37:40
Speaker 1: found three oh one. Everything's in for negative. I have
37:51
Speaker 1: that UH subject in the kitchen in a free prod
37:57
Speaker 1: gollids give a few hours, Sery McCollum. I have never
38:04
Speaker 1: heard of a nine one one dispatch going, you know what,
38:07
Speaker 1: she's finally, she's probably fine, just given a couple of hours,
38:10
Speaker 1: she's probably with her friends. What I've never heard that
38:13
Speaker 1: in my life. And I'm gonna say again, the person
38:15
Speaker 1: that pulled the fire alarm is a hero. Who did
38:18
Speaker 1: pull the fire alarm Larry Rogers Jr. I don't have
38:21
Speaker 1: the name of the individual, but it was one of
38:23
Speaker 1: the one of the family or friends that were They
38:27
Speaker 1: were desperately looking for Kennika throughout that hotel UH and
38:31
Speaker 1: again that desperation led to them pulling the fire alarm,
38:34
Speaker 1: and finally, finally a response came that really asked them
38:39
Speaker 1: what's going on? And that's what triggered them to begin
38:42
Speaker 1: to look at the video footage. And it shouldn't take
38:44
Speaker 1: that much, Nancy, as you're indicated, it shouldn't require a
38:48
Speaker 1: desperate movement. Well, I'll tell you what. When I went
38:51
Speaker 1: down to that lobby Larry Rogers Jr. Uh in the
38:55
Speaker 1: hotel in Arizona, I said, my daughter, it's just gotten
38:58
Speaker 1: on an elevator. I can't find him looking for right now.
39:00
Speaker 1: Help me. This is my son. Don't lose him. And
39:03
Speaker 1: I turned around and they helped. They helped, you know,
39:07
Speaker 1: they held John David and I went up looking. They
39:10
Speaker 1: sent people looking, and a good Samaritan found her and
39:14
Speaker 1: brought her back. And by the way, I never I said,
39:18
Speaker 1: and hugged the lady and thanked her. But I never
39:20
Speaker 1: got her name. I never found out who she was.
39:22
Speaker 1: Nothing the lady that got my little girl Lucy, and
39:26
Speaker 1: you know, potentially could have saved her life. I'm just
39:30
Speaker 1: imagining Kanika staggering around and ending up in that freezer.
39:36
Speaker 1: My EP executive producer Alan Deep joining me, Alan, what
39:40
Speaker 1: do you think of all of the disturbing aspects of this.
39:44
Speaker 1: The thing that bothers me the most is the idea
39:49
Speaker 1: of Kanika's mom in the hotel shortly after her daughter
39:54
Speaker 1: went into that freezer, on the phone with police, asking
40:00
Speaker 1: for help at the hotel, asking employees staff there to help.
40:07
Speaker 1: Yet when she called nine one one, she was told
40:09
Speaker 1: go home, wait for her to come home, because that's
40:12
Speaker 1: what kids do, call us back maybe in about three
40:16
Speaker 1: or four hours. Well, those are fatal three or four hours.
40:21
Speaker 1: And it disturbs me to think what would have happened
40:25
Speaker 1: if that that law enforcement agent who answered the nine
40:30
Speaker 1: one one call had said, you know what, we're sending
40:35
Speaker 1: an officer down there immediately to search the hotel, and
40:39
Speaker 1: we're going to find your daughter, and maybe they would
40:43
Speaker 1: have found her before she froze to death. We see
40:46
Speaker 1: this too many times in missing person cases, where law
40:52
Speaker 1: enforcement doesn't initially treat it as a case. They think
40:56
Speaker 1: it's a voluntary disappearance. They think that this especially if
41:01
Speaker 1: it's a young person, that they're off partying someplace, or
41:04
Speaker 1: they think that drugs are involved, and they don't want
41:06
Speaker 1: to put their resources into searching for this missing person.
41:11
Speaker 1: And I can tell you just in this this year,
41:14
Speaker 1: while we've been doing the show, there have been several
41:17
Speaker 1: cases where I personally talked to the families and heard
41:20
Speaker 1: their frustration about this. Weeks later, their their daughter, their sister,
41:27
Speaker 1: whoever they were found dead, and police had waited days
41:32
Speaker 1: or weeks before they started investigating. That is the most
41:36
Speaker 1: disturbing thing and I wish I knew what we could
41:38
Speaker 1: do about it. Again, Larry Rogers Jr. What was her
41:43
Speaker 1: condition when her body was found in the Fraser? Larry,
41:47
Speaker 1: she was stiff, Rigor mortiss At said in she was frozen,
41:53
Speaker 1: and um, she was positioned and just the most odd
41:57
Speaker 1: position that you could imagine. It was pretty traumatic for
42:02
Speaker 1: her mom to see those photos. We actually asked the
42:05
Speaker 1: Rosemont Police Department not to make them public because they
42:08
Speaker 1: were so traumatic, and her pleas in that regard were
42:11
Speaker 1: dismissed as well. You know, when you say she was
42:13
Speaker 1: in this weird position, what position was it? She was
42:16
Speaker 1: positioned sort of on her left side with a face
42:20
Speaker 1: down towards the ground and um, more or less position
42:25
Speaker 1: position into a corner of the freezer. And this is
42:28
Speaker 1: a small freezer that was about four ft by five
42:30
Speaker 1: ft in dimension, and it was just a very sad
42:34
Speaker 1: and tragic photographed to see. It must have been terrible
42:40
Speaker 1: for that getting lady. What do you think of that position?
42:43
Speaker 1: Sheryl McCollum, because I've now discovered I believe that there
42:47
Speaker 1: is an opening, a release valve within the freezer that
42:52
Speaker 1: she could have gotten out unless she was disabled. The
42:56
Speaker 1: way she positioned in that corner, like her face is
42:58
Speaker 1: down literal in the corner. Again, it doesn't look like
43:03
Speaker 1: something she did naturally. And her hair is all in
43:06
Speaker 1: her face. It's not like away from her faith where
43:09
Speaker 1: she just got cold and fell over and close to death.
43:13
Speaker 1: It looked violent, like she was struggling. And I'm looking
43:16
Speaker 1: at the video right now of her walking toward the freezer,
43:18
Speaker 1: her closer in place. Her hair is perfect, She's got
43:21
Speaker 1: in a little jean shirt, everything's fine, both shoes on, everything,
43:25
Speaker 1: she's perfectly in order. None of it makes sense to me.
43:29
Speaker 1: And now it has been decided it's an accident. Now
43:32
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to hear back from the Crown Plaza hotel.
43:35
Speaker 1: I want to hear what they have to say. So
43:37
Speaker 1: far nothing but according to her mother, Teresa, Teresa Martin,
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Speaker 1: she says, quote to me, I feel they helped kill
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Speaker 1: my child, the police department and this hotel. Why is
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Speaker 1: she saying that Larry Rogers Jr. About the police feels
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Speaker 1: that her please, her help were ignored from the early beginning.
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Speaker 1: And if they had only just responded to her there,
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Speaker 1: taking the time and look at the cameras they begun
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Speaker 1: to look for her when she first called, we wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be here today. The young lady would be alive and
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Speaker 1: we wouldn't be here. That's the tragedy of it all.
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Speaker 1: What now, Larry Rogers Jr. Well, what we've done now
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Speaker 1: is we've commissioned a private autopsy to investigate on to
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Speaker 1: investigate her injuries. UM. We've done a private toxicology testing
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Speaker 1: that we expect to get the results on shortly. We've
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Speaker 1: done a for in the examination of the freezer and
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Speaker 1: are in the process of agreeing to have the doors
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Speaker 1: and framework removed so we can have that test it,
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Speaker 1: possibly by an engineer. UM. And then we expect to
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Speaker 1: explore specifically what happened with this missing video footage again
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Speaker 1: to try and help this this poor mom get to
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Speaker 1: the bottom of what happened to her to her daughter. Well,
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Speaker 1: another thing I don't understand, Larry, is Teresa tells me
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Speaker 1: that police tried to arrest her a she tried to
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Speaker 1: search the hotel for her little girl. She's dead. Okay,
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Speaker 1: why was the mom? Why police trying to arrest her.
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Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. They were more concerned with why,
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Speaker 1: with the fact that people were in the hotel looking
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Speaker 1: for Kanika than the fact that that Kanika was missing. Again,
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Speaker 1: just a tragic, a tragic way of addressing a desperate
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Speaker 1: mom in search of her daughter. Wait, they were more
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Speaker 1: concerned about what the police department and the hotel staff
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Speaker 1: was more concerned, all right, they were in the hotel
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Speaker 1: knocking on doors and trying to keep them from knocking
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Speaker 1: on doors than they were about the fact that Kanika
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Speaker 1: was missing. Rather than focusing on the fact that there
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Speaker 1: was a young nineteen year old girl who had entered
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Speaker 1: that hotel and was missing and couldn't be located, they
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Speaker 1: were more concerned about can't get my head around. Can
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Speaker 1: you imagine a cop when I'm running up in on
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Speaker 1: the hall, screaming and crying for Lucy, trying to drag
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Speaker 1: me out while she could be dying or molested or
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Speaker 1: being hurt at that very minute, to come and try
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Speaker 1: to arrest the mother. Cheryl, You've got two children. I
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Speaker 1: cannot fathom how they are more concerned with the serbing
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Speaker 1: the peace than they are with somebody dying on their property.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't have to and literally, literally, if they were
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Speaker 1: worried about them running up down the hall, all they
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Speaker 1: had to do was showing the video tape. All they
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Speaker 1: had to do get him in an office showing the tape.
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Speaker 1: Let's go find her. Perious. I'm just I'm just sick.
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Speaker 1: The windness says told police that they lost traffic track
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Speaker 1: of Kanika when she left just for a moment. Do
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Speaker 1: you fetch her car keys and her cell phone from
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Speaker 1: another room? That never happened. Somehow everything went sideways. How
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Speaker 1: is the mom Theresa Martin doing now, Larry Rogers Jr.
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Speaker 1: Because when I met with her, she was just, oh, oh,
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Speaker 1: my star, she was just she looked like she was
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Speaker 1: just nubs. She could hardly even talk. Yeah, she's a
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Speaker 1: very strong woman and an amazing woman. Um, she's been
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Speaker 1: just just perfect in terms of a client, um, in
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Speaker 1: terms of her disposition. You know, she did any and
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Speaker 1: everything she could do to try and locate her daughter
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Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. She's hurt. I think she indicated
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Speaker 1: that to use herself, Nancy. She's hurt by the fact
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Speaker 1: that her pleas were ignored, and those pleas really would
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Speaker 1: have likely made a difference and whether her daughter was
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Speaker 1: alive Today with me is Larry Rogers Jr. A veteran
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Speaker 1: trial lawyer or the lawyer for Connickas family, and my
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Speaker 1: friend and longtime colleague, Cheryl McCollum, Director of the Cold
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Speaker 1: Case Institute, and Alan Duke, of course, joining me from
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Speaker 1: l A. Our search for justice is not over. Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace's crime Stories, signing off good bye friend,