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Full Show Podcast: 4 October 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City, New.
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  Speaker 2: Zealand's furniture Beds and a play a store Us Dogs.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be good morning.
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  Speaker 3: It is six after five. Welcome to your Friday morning.
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  Speaker 3: In the next couple of minutes if you're in need,
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  Speaker 3: and Civil Defense says do not go to work today.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have the controller on the show in a few
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  Speaker 3: minutes time. Coming up before six Casey Costello, loads of
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  Speaker 3: people apparently want to be cops. Huge intake coming plus
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  Speaker 3: the smoking scandal and help New Zealand finances on life support.
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  Speaker 2: The agenda.
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  Speaker 3: It is the fourth of October, a state of emergency
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  Speaker 3: being declared in the need and following that torrential rain
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  Speaker 3: and some flooding South Dunedin particularly hit. Hard hit people
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  Speaker 3: advise to self evacuate if they feel unsafe, and evacuation
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  Speaker 3: center has been set up at Forsyth Bars Stadium.
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  Speaker 4: We've cross has been here every air ear and a
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  Speaker 4: half chicken is all out.
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  Speaker 5: Been all nighter for me.
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  Speaker 3: I got half a meter of water.
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  Speaker 6: Not quite leaping out at the bottom step.
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  Speaker 7: Boy has been rough at the bottom of Surrey straight.
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  Speaker 7: The pressure of the water is that intent said, it's
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  Speaker 7: pushed the hydrant, you know, the metal grates out of
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  Speaker 7: the water, pushing themmartin water coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Some of our callers from overnight. Three year strikes have
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  Speaker 3: hit Southern Bay Route. Nine people killed. A medical center
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  Speaker 3: was hit. Israel's say it was a targeted attack against Hisbula,
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  Speaker 3: but locals say it clearly wasn't It is very clear
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  Speaker 3: that this is a center for ambulances.
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  Speaker 6: It has ambulances and rescuers volunteering to serve society.
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  Speaker 3: And the US President Joe Biden is in discussions with
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  Speaker 3: Israel on a retaliation against Iran, and I have more
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  Speaker 3: on that in a second. China has claimed to have
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  Speaker 3: entered Arctic waters for the first time in a joint
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  Speaker 3: patrol with Russia. The US Coast Guard has spotted four
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  Speaker 3: Chinese and Russian vessels and the Bearing Sea before trying
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  Speaker 3: to confirm the operation, saying they were testing their ability
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  Speaker 3: to carry out missions in unfamiliar waters. Always a good thing,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it. Eight minutes after five.
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  Speaker 8: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition
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  Speaker 8: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a player
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  Speaker 8: store news dog.
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  Speaker 3: Zidby, how are you doing to need and give me
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  Speaker 3: a text? Nine two ninety two is the number we're
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  Speaker 3: thinking of you, Hoping you're dry and safe. A state
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  Speaker 3: of emergency has been declared in duned And overnight this
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  Speaker 3: following the surface flooding because of torrential rain. Scott McLean
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  Speaker 3: is Toned and Civil Defense Controller Scott, Welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 3: How many people have you got evacuated? How many in
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  Speaker 3: the evacuation centers?
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  Speaker 9: So we've got a round about seventy people so far
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  Speaker 9: have taken up the offer of our welfare centers. So
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  Speaker 9: they are located at the Saint Clear Golf Club and
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  Speaker 9: forsythe bath Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: Are their houses flooded or are they just precautionary?
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  Speaker 9: Most of them with precautionary. We've had reports of one
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  Speaker 9: or two starting to get water in there, but I
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  Speaker 9: think it was out of caution that they've relocated.
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  Speaker 3: Any reports of damage or injuries at this point, No.
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  Speaker 9: Reports thus far injury and we haven't been able to
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  Speaker 9: get out in a cisny damage at this point.
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  Speaker 3: What about power?
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  Speaker 9: As far as we're were, power is still on.
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  Speaker 3: Is the worst over yet? Has the rain stopped or
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  Speaker 3: obviously the rain's going to keep going, but has the
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  Speaker 3: river level peaked?
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  Speaker 9: So we understand the river levels have receded a bit,
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  Speaker 9: but it's still raining fairly steadily. Met Service updated US
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  Speaker 9: around about nine o'clock last night and forecast up to
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  Speaker 9: one hundred mills for the following twenty four hours to
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  Speaker 9: nine o'clock tonight, So yeah, it's still a weasit to go.
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  Speaker 3: Scott, what's your advice to people this morning? Do they
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  Speaker 3: go to work, do they go to school?
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  Speaker 9: Look, our advice is don't go out driving in particular
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  Speaker 9: unless you absolutely have to. It causes problems for emergency responders,
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  Speaker 9: it can cause problems for homeowners in the low lying areas,
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  Speaker 9: pushing pushing water off the roads and into people's properties.
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  Speaker 9: So the advices is to stay home and stay safe.
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  Speaker 3: So that's today. The advice from Civil Defense is if
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  Speaker 3: you are in anywhere in Dunedin, stay home today.
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  Speaker 9: Look, it's probably safer to do so. If you don't
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  Speaker 9: have to travel, the advice would be to not travel.
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  Speaker 3: Scott, thank you for that, appreciate your time and best
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  Speaker 3: of luck and Bridge Rich. It is just on eleven
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  Speaker 3: minutes after five year on News Talk c B. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: hopefully everybody is doing okay the need and it sounds
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  Speaker 3: like the river levels are peaking or have peaked already.
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  Speaker 3: Nine ninety two is the number if you want to
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  Speaker 3: update me. Could oil hit one hundred dollars a barrel
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  Speaker 3: by the end of this month. We'll talk about that
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  Speaker 3: in a few seconds. Plus why the pound is taking
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  Speaker 3: a hammering or a pounding over in the UK, We'll
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  Speaker 3: look at that. To eleven after five News TALKSB.
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  Speaker 8: The first word on the News of the Day early
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  Speaker 8: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
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  Speaker 8: Beds and a Planet Store.
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  Speaker 2: News TALKSB.
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  Speaker 3: Thirteen after five News TALKSB. As we speak Biden and NYA,
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  Speaker 3: who are discussing options for a retaliatory strike against Iran.
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  Speaker 3: Here's why we should all hope that Israel just cools
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  Speaker 3: its jets a little bit. Obviously there is the loss
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  Speaker 3: of life, et cetera. But also there's a potential inflation
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  Speaker 3: issue here. Oil prices have been pretty stable. We reported
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  Speaker 3: on this yesterday after the strike against Israel. However, if
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  Speaker 3: Israel hits Iranian energy facilities, they reckon that the price
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  Speaker 3: impact on a barrel of crude oil could go from
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  Speaker 3: seventy four dollars currently to eighty six dollars a barrel,
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  Speaker 3: and any energy analysts are worried that one point eight
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  Speaker 3: million barrels per day is what they produce and ninety
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  Speaker 3: percent of that is exported out of one export facility.
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  Speaker 3: Of that is it, then you've got a problem. And
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  Speaker 3: remember you don't have to think back too far to
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  Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine. We had one hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 3: dollars a barrel when they went in their stoking inflation
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  Speaker 3: and led to all of our woes and misery. So
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  Speaker 3: something to watch for you this morning, fourteen after five.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge Health New Zealand's financial position remains on what
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  Speaker 3: would you call it? Life support quarterly performance report out yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: It showed the financial performance declined significantly in the three
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  Speaker 3: months to June this year, a one billion dollar deficit
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  Speaker 3: for the last financial year. The slump came after a
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and ninety nine million dollar forecasted surplus in
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  Speaker 3: the previous quarter. What's going on here? Sarah Dalton is
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  Speaker 3: the Association of Salaried Medical Specialist execus of director. Sarah.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Ryan, how are you very well.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Nice to have you on the show. This
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  Speaker 3: is interesting because it says staffing costs are up. There
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  Speaker 3: are some one off impairments, but staffing costs are up,
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  Speaker 3: there's outsourcing going on, and yet we're actually starting to
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  Speaker 3: meet some of these targets.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's kind of a mixed bag. I think it's
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  Speaker 10: also really important to note that more than five hundred
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  Speaker 10: million of that deficit is money that should be in
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  Speaker 10: there to deal with pay equity settlements that hasn't been
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  Speaker 10: passed across by CANN'T, and so you know, it's a
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  Speaker 10: little bit of not quite what it seems in there,
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  Speaker 10: do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Bit of trickery, a bit of Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that must be really frustrating for the for the director,
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  Speaker 10: it's all of whom have been told they have to
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  Speaker 10: make significant cuts to their costs over the next financial
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  Speaker 10: year to try and deal with this problem, this ongoing
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  Speaker 10: problem they have balancing their books. You know, they're still
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  Speaker 10: struggling to deal with holidays discrepancies that has been going
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  Speaker 10: on for years, and the payroll systems are so problematic
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  Speaker 10: that it is taking a very long time all that
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  Speaker 10: stuff out and all of those really, you know, secondary
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  Speaker 10: to the points you raise about actually delivering healthcare to
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  Speaker 10: people who need it.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that, but I mean, is this not more proof?
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  Speaker 3: Does this not strengthen the case for more cuts?
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  Speaker 10: Well, watch what happens because listening to what we were
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  Speaker 10: told Marzida meeting with the health unions and to start
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  Speaker 10: to order just this week where we had presentations from
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  Speaker 10: Public health Services, Mardine, Pacific Health Services, data and digital
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  Speaker 10: strategy and innovation, they're all going to be dealing with
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  Speaker 10: significant cuts. Some of that's going to impact staffing levels.
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  Speaker 10: Some of that's going to impact things like the ability
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  Speaker 10: to roll out digital solutions that will make systems and
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  Speaker 10: stuff more efficient. It will make it easier for them
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  Speaker 10: to do their jobs, easier to see people quickly. Radiology
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  Speaker 10: and pathology services, which are the things that patients don't
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  Speaker 10: often think about, but they are really critical to forming
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  Speaker 10: diagnoses and setting out treatment pathways. They have heavy reliance
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  Speaker 10: on data and digital and that's not functioning effectively for them.
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  Speaker 10: That's going to make, you know, inefficiencies and costs down
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  Speaker 10: the line.
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  Speaker 3: So some troubled waters ahead. But on the face of it,
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  Speaker 3: these measures, the metrics and non financial stuff. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the things seem to be it's tiny fractions, but it
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  Speaker 3: seems to be improving. If you look at cancer wait times,
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  Speaker 3: emergency department surgeries, et cetera, etc. Most of those measures
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  Speaker 3: seem to be improved slightly, which I mean that must
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  Speaker 3: be a good thing.
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  Speaker 10: I don't think the improvements. I'm sorry, I'm going to
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  Speaker 10: ruin your tea party, but I don't think the improvements
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  Speaker 10: are significant for us to take particular comfort, and also
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  Speaker 10: what our members tell us, and our senior doctors in
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  Speaker 10: dentists out there on the frontline, and hospitals that are
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  Speaker 10: are still significant staff and gaps, particularly medicals. So we're
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  Speaker 10: seeing lots of junior doctor gaps, which means a lot
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  Speaker 10: of the senior doctors our members are having to cover
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  Speaker 10: their work as well as their own. It's not an
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  Speaker 10: efficient way to run our hospitals. And a lot of
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  Speaker 10: our hospitals are still running out one hundred percent plus.
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  Speaker 3: So, Sarah, you're taking that boastful, bashful press release from
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  Speaker 3: the minister yesterday and you're ripping it right up, aren't you.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you're doing.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you well. I was in Westport over the weekend,
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  Speaker 10: you know, with the quarter of their population who are
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  Speaker 10: protesting about proposed cup for health access and look at
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  Speaker 10: duned and New Zealanders care deeply about access to health
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  Speaker 10: and we need better, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Sarah, thanks for your time this morning, nights to
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  Speaker 3: have you on the show. Sara Adults in Association of
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  Speaker 3: Salary Medical Specialist Executive Director. Actually, I was thinking of
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  Speaker 3: Dunedin this morning, obvious with the flooding going on, and
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  Speaker 3: normally you would dispatch the Prime Minister and whoever else
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  Speaker 3: to go down there. Gee, it'll be a frosty reception,
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  Speaker 3: you'd have to say, wouldn't it. Nineteen minutes after five
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  Speaker 3: news talks, he'd be up next ghost homes, would Attax
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  Speaker 3: fix it?
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  Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines?
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  Speaker 8: Ryan Bridge, you for twenty twenty four on early edition
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  Speaker 8: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks'd be twenty.
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  Speaker 3: One after five news talks, here'd be Casey Costello on
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  Speaker 3: smoking and cops. Just before six Britain the pounds taking
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  Speaker 3: a hammering. This was about half an hour of last
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  Speaker 3: time I checked, it was on track for the worst
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  Speaker 3: day against the euro since twenty twenty two. Why interest
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  Speaker 3: rates the Bank of England was hinting in an interview
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  Speaker 3: with The Guardian at much more sustained cuts than they
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  Speaker 3: had been previously. Previously, they thought they'd cut in November
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  Speaker 3: and hole at four point seventy five percent. Now they're
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  Speaker 3: expecting a quarter percent twenty five basis point cut at
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  Speaker 3: each meeting from November right through till May. That's one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty basis points that they are looking at
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  Speaker 3: cutting the OCR and the Bank of England inflation. This
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  Speaker 3: is why inflation down to two point two percent and
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  Speaker 3: falling twenty two after five Ryan Bridge ghost houses? Would
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  Speaker 3: a tax on these houses work to fix the problem.
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  Speaker 3: Chloe Swaalbrick has previously said that she would be in
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  Speaker 3: supportive one. You've got some housing Charitable Trust to being
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  Speaker 3: supported one. More than one hundred thousand houses were empty
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  Speaker 3: in the latest census, the so called ghost houses. Brad
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  Speaker 3: Elson is the Informetrix's principal economs. He's with us this morning. Brad,
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, Good to have you on the show.
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  Speaker 3: So is this all like evil rich people sitting on
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  Speaker 3: houses of vacation homes or what are they? Well?
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  Speaker 5: And this is the thing often we don't have that
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  Speaker 5: good of an idea. Every five years in the census
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  Speaker 5: we get a bit of an update on what we
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  Speaker 5: call unoccupied dwellings, so dwellings that had no one in
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  Speaker 5: them on census night, and we know that looking through
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  Speaker 5: the numbers, around about half of those were where people
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  Speaker 5: do live in them, they just weren't there on census night.
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  Speaker 5: The other remaining aution, which is like you say, around
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  Speaker 5: about one hundred thousand were empty on since night and
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  Speaker 5: don't normally have anyone living in them. But there's a
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  Speaker 5: variety of reasons that could be. They could be holiday
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  Speaker 5: homes or batches, they could be because they're undergoing renovations.
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  Speaker 5: Looking through some of the figures, some of the biggest
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  Speaker 5: are the areas that had the biggest increase in so
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  Speaker 5: called ghost homes or completely empty dwellings were in the
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  Speaker 5: likes of Auckland, Gibson, and Hawk's Bay. And what that
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  Speaker 5: leads me to believe is that actually there's a not
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  Speaker 5: insignificant part of those apparent ghost homes that were probably
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  Speaker 5: cyclone damage, that have a flood damaged, or particularly in Auckland,
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  Speaker 5: they might well have been homes that had recently been built,
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  Speaker 5: but hadn't quite moved on yet, So I really don't
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  Speaker 5: know if we're actually going to be able to tax
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  Speaker 5: something that we can't normally see. It's a big project,
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  Speaker 5: big proposal that people talk about, but I'm not sure
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  Speaker 5: we could actually have the information to do it no good.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like a too basket situation. And do we
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  Speaker 3: actually know that if we if all of these homes
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  Speaker 3: aren't be they batches or whatever, if they were released
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  Speaker 3: onto the market, would have helped to solve or ease
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  Speaker 3: a housing crisis in an area or would it not
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  Speaker 3: have Is it not the quantity in you say, Queenstown
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  Speaker 3: to actually make a difference.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, any additional housing is useful, But again, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's not the sort of thing I don't think that
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  Speaker 5: anyone would propose that government would come in and sort
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  Speaker 5: of necessarily force these houses into work. Again, some of
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  Speaker 5: them are under renovations and similar they might actually not
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  Speaker 5: be all that sits of purpose for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 5: One of the encouraging signs we actually had in the
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  Speaker 5: census was that some of the policies that have gone
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  Speaker 5: by the likes of healthy Home standards have actually quite
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  Speaker 5: substantially lifted housing quality across the country. So you know,
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  Speaker 5: some of those signs are encouraging. We've now got fewer
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  Speaker 5: homes that are damped, we've got fewer homes that are moldy.
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  Speaker 5: Two thirds of homes now have a heat pump. So
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  Speaker 5: when those are encouraging numbers. But I don't know a falce.
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  Speaker 5: You know, homes that we don't actually know a huge
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  Speaker 5: amount about. Onto the market is necessarily a solution.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Brad, we have to leave it there. I'm really sorry,
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  Speaker 3: but Brad Olsen, who's the Informetric's chief executive and principal
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  Speaker 3: economists with us this morning talking about those ghost homes
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  Speaker 3: and more generally about the census. Just gone twenty five
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  Speaker 3: minutes after five, we do have an update for you
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  Speaker 3: on the civil defense emergency in Dunedin. Plus we are
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  Speaker 3: talking to our UK correspondent just before just after the
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  Speaker 3: news at five point thirty here on news Talks B the.
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  Speaker 3: Talks AB twenty seven after five, News Talk said, be
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  Speaker 3: great to have your company on this Friday morning. Kudos
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  Speaker 3: to Quantus this morning for introducing a well being zone
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  Speaker 3: on cattle class of their aircraft. Airlines are cramming us
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  Speaker 3: in like Sardine's. Anyone who's traveled will know this. They
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  Speaker 3: serve you booz you recline your seat, the planes dry
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  Speaker 3: you out, and then as a natural consequence, people go nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Unruly passengers. You would have seen the stories in the news,
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  Speaker 3: ripping open the emergency doors, running up and down the aisles,
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  Speaker 3: screaming like mad people. Globally, physical assaults on aircraft up
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  Speaker 3: sixty percent post pandemic. In New Zealander, lone deals with
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  Speaker 3: two hundred reports a month of abusive behavior, two hundred
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  Speaker 3: a month. So people are responsible for their behavior, yes,
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  Speaker 3: but the airlines are responsible for the environment which you
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  Speaker 3: travel in. And this is long haul. I'm talking long haul. Really,
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  Speaker 3: the world is full of nutty people, and you have
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  Speaker 3: to cater for nutty people, don't you on aircraft? So
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  Speaker 3: good on Quantus from twenty twenty six, I might add,
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  Speaker 3: don't go and book them tomorrow. But from twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 3: a dedicated well being area at the front of economy.
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  Speaker 3: They've got sculpted wall, integrated handles for exercise, stabilizing you
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  Speaker 3: and doing some squats or whatever you want to do.
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  Speaker 3: They've got a cabinet of healthy snacks, fruit juices, smoothies,
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  Speaker 3: self service. Now here's the kicker. It's for their twenty
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  Speaker 3: hour flights. Would you do it? Would you do it?
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  Speaker 3: Even if there's fruit, smoothies and integrated handles for stretching
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  Speaker 3: an exercise, The answer for me is a resounding note.
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  Speaker 3: But at least they're trying something others should follow. Suit
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  Speaker 3: nine ninety two is the number to text. Casey Costello
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  Speaker 3: and our UK correspondent coming up after the news at
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  Speaker 3: five point.
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  Speaker 8: Thirty on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition
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  Speaker 8: with Ryan Bridge and SMIT City New Zealand's Furniture Beds
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  Speaker 2: News Talks.
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  Speaker 3: B Good morning, twenty four away from six News Talk,
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  Speaker 3: said B, I'm Ryan Bridge, great have your company this morning.
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  Speaker 3: To the people of Dunedin who have been texting in,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for your text. Hope you're keeping safe. The
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  Speaker 3: Civil Defense Controller Scott McLain told me earlier on the
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  Speaker 3: program that seventy people have taken up the offer of
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  Speaker 3: an evacuation center, visiting one of those, not necessarily because
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  Speaker 3: their houses have flooded, but because there is flooding in
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the area. The advice from Civil Defense this morning. If
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: you don't have to travel, if it is not essential,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: do not, and especially don't use your car, because pushing
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: those floodwaters into already damaged homes not a good idea.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: This morning, we're looking at Casey Costello over a couple
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: of issues. One is the police, huge increase in recruits
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: or people signing up to be police recruits and wanting
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: to join the force, so we'll look at that, but
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: also the smoking issue. Some advice released yesterday. We'll have
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: more on that too. Lots to come here on News
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Talk CB. We're also over to the UK Europe as well.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: It is twenty three to six Rainbridge and comes not
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: with us today, but Claire Sherwood is with us from
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: christ Church with the latest on the weather situation in
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  Speaker 3: the South. Clar why don't we start with Dunedin.
• 19:09
  Speaker 11: Yeah, let's start with Daneda and that makes sense.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Ryan.
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  Speaker 11: We've got a state of emergency declared there at about midnight.
• 19:14
  Speaker 11: As you know, the red heavy rain warning remains in
• 19:17
  Speaker 11: effect for North Otaga as well as Dunedin and coastal Kluther.
• 19:21
  Speaker 11: That will stay in place until about nine o'clock tonight.
• 19:24
  Speaker 11: So still a long day ahead. Significant flooding is being
• 19:27
  Speaker 11: reported in several parts of Dunedin. Residents of South Dunedin
• 19:31
  Speaker 11: particularly impacted. The initial evacuation center at Sint Clair Golf
• 19:35
  Speaker 11: Club is already full. The decision was then made to
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: open Forsyth Bar Stadium for those who needed somewhere to go.
• 19:41
  Speaker 11: If you do need that, the entry is at Gate Jay.
• 19:44
  Speaker 11: Some people are without power, a couple of without water around.
• 19:47
  Speaker 11: There are a couple of reasons for that. There is
• 19:49
  Speaker 11: a ruptured water main on the Othago Peninsula as well
• 19:52
  Speaker 11: as a culvert that's blocked at Kris Bay. Flooding has
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: closed several roads that include State Highway eighty seven from
• 19:59
  Speaker 11: Kyburn to Hide as well as State Highway ninety between
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: y Corkwai and Tapa Nui. Sandbags are still available at
• 20:07
  Speaker 11: multiple places. Council is the best place to jump on
• 20:10
  Speaker 11: their Facebook to get that information. We also have landslides
• 20:14
  Speaker 11: that State Highway eighty eight from Forsyth Bar Stadium to
• 20:17
  Speaker 11: Port Charmers. There's also one lane of Adomana Road between
• 20:21
  Speaker 11: Kerris Bay and Deborah Bay that's impacted. In terms of
• 20:25
  Speaker 11: what's to come today, Met Service does tell us the
• 20:27
  Speaker 11: rain is expected to stick around, he says, people will
• 20:30
  Speaker 11: notice it's a prolonged period of persistent rain falling on
• 20:34
  Speaker 11: what is already very saturated ground. The significant falls, according
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: to Met Service right now should be around nine this morning,
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: as well as midday and then again at four. And
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: in terms of extra resources, FENS has some urban search
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: and rescue personnel, engineers and even a specialist drone team
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: traveling down from here in christ Church today.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: All right, good to night, Cliar, Thank you very much
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: for that. Quite the comprehensive update from the south from
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Clear this morning. Thank you for that. Clear mac toll
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: is in Wellington, Max. The government considered exing the Malori
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Crown Relations Office.
• 21:05
  Speaker 12: Yeah, good story by z B. Zazaria. How Here, in
• 21:08
  Speaker 12: its search of course for public sector cuts improvements, the
• 21:12
  Speaker 12: government at one time strongly considered disestablishing altogether the Crown
• 21:16
  Speaker 12: Maori Relations Office, the Arafiti, which was established in twenty eighteen.
• 21:21
  Speaker 12: Some of its work would have been shifted to the
• 21:23
  Speaker 12: Justice Ministry. Of course, the government instead choosing to retain
• 21:27
  Speaker 12: the departments, scaling it back rather clarifying functions between it
• 21:32
  Speaker 12: and the Maori Development Agency Tipuny Corky. These documents show
• 21:36
  Speaker 12: heightened public interest in the treaty as citing a reason
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: why the office should stay. Labor and the Greens critical,
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: the latter calling these that even considering scrapping to Adrafiti
• 21:49
  Speaker 12: highly disrespectful.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: It doesn't sound good, does it. Let's get rid of
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: the Maori Crown Relations Office. How's the weather in the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: capital today?
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: A well, shame to admit it. It's mostly fine. Sixteen
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: the high in the city.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Even when it's good. You're miserable, Max, Thank you, Nevis
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: and Oakland, Hey Nev.
• 22:10
  Speaker 13: With Hippie Friday.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Hey Friday. What's going on with the dogs in South Auckland.
• 22:15
  Speaker 13: Well, yes, look, work is underway to fix the South
• 22:18
  Speaker 13: Auckland dog problem. So Local Democracy Reporting is saying that
• 22:22
  Speaker 13: the council's Animal Management team they've picked up more than
• 22:25
  Speaker 13: five thousand roaming dogs in the area. That was from
• 22:28
  Speaker 13: twenty twenty three to twenty four. So now they've got
• 22:31
  Speaker 13: this new proactive team which is going to patrol the
• 22:34
  Speaker 13: high risk areas. Now. These areas include Autata, Mundldeerware and
• 22:38
  Speaker 13: Papacuta in South Auckland. They reckon this roaming dog problem
• 22:43
  Speaker 13: has been growing post COVID, so part of the problem
• 22:45
  Speaker 13: dogs brought during COVID desext and socialized and then you
• 22:50
  Speaker 13: know Aaron Neary, he's in charge of the team, he says,
• 22:52
  Speaker 13: So these animals are now escaping while the owners are
• 22:54
  Speaker 13: at work and countering other dogs and people. So they've
• 22:57
  Speaker 13: got these five teens and.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Over a couple of years. That's a bunch of dogs.
• 23:01
  Speaker 14: That's right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Do you know a cafe yesterday and they were saying, oh,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: there's a there's a pigeon council pigeon person who comes
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: along and gets rid of all the pigeons.
• 23:09
  Speaker 13: What where where this is an It's not possibly May
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: of course it's Bay.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I just heard the heard the
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: conversation and oh you eves dropping dropping, and then I
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: had to go quick. My phone rang and so I
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: couldn't ask follow up. But if anyone knows about the pigeons.
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: Maybe they get someone who just chases them.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Like the bird lady for lady, I'm alone.
• 23:36
  Speaker 14: Actually, you know, I quite like that, jaw.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I'd rather do that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 13: The news reading the weather today mainly fine, apart from
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: the chance of a shower this afternoon. Auckland's hi eighteen degrees.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Neva. Happy Friday everyone. Eighteen away from six.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: We are lied to the UK.
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: Next International correspondence with ends and eye insurance.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Sixteen away from six New Talk CIBB. Vincent Mecavini is
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: at UK Europe Correspondent. He's with us this morning. Vincent,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Good to have you back. Good morning.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Tell me about this secretive islands in the Indian Ocean.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a bit closer to your part of the world.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: The Chagos Islands in the Indian Ocean have been used
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: by the UK for the last fifty years. They've had
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: sovereignty over them. They were given that by Mauritius and
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: the UK has operated a military base there on Diego Garcia,
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: and this involved moving off the Cegossian people who are
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: relocated here to the UK and have a long time
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: protest on this. But this military base, now used jointly
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: by the UK and the US, is a top secret facility.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: It's used for US long range bombing. It's seen as
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: a critical point for their sort of global power projection,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: particularly in Southeast Asia and with a sort of resurgent China.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: But this deal has been announced now because of ongoing
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: protests that the UK will hand back sovereignty too Mauritius
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: of the islands, but they'll be able to keep control
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: of Diego Garcia and that special US UK military base
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: for Navy ships and as I said, long range bombers
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: for at least the next ninety nine years, in a
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: bit of a landmark deal for Kirstalma's new government.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: And also this morning, the flights that are coming out
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: of Lebanon for UK citizens they're going a hit.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. There have been evacuation flights chartered in
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: part by our Foreign Office to get British people out
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: of Lebanon, but it's unclear how much longer they'll be
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: able to operate going in and out of the Beirut airport.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: So what we believe is going on now, and we
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: have some confirmation, is that there's been an increase in
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: personnel at a UK military base in Cyprus that's aquitary,
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: an RAF base, and they're looking to potentially evacuate via sea.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: They would deploy ships from the Royal Navy and get
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: British people who are no longer able to fly out
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: if they decide to go are given the war now
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: with Israel, they'll take them out by boat and then
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: bring them to Cyprus. We know already that earlier in
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: the week military assets, navy vessels in the Mediterranean, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: we think planes from Aquitari, that base in Cypress were
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: used to help defend Israel when it came under that
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: huge bombardment of.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Rockets from Iran.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: And the UK government is saying that it will continue
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: to defend Israel should it come under attack again.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, thanks so much for that. That's Viinctent mcavinniy,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: a UK europe correspondent, just gone thirteen away.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: From six Brian Bridge.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: A surge in police college applications will see recruitment wings
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: expand from eighty to one hundred people from next year.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I record thirteen hundred and seventy two applicants were received
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: in July, followed by the second highest number in August.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: But the increased recruitment numbers mean some other police call
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: courses might need to move to districts or even online.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Casey Costello is the Associate Police Minister. She joins US
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Live this morning. Good morning, minister, good morning, I'm very well,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: thank you. I have to start with you've released advice
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: on the smoking issue, on the heated tobacco products issue,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: and you've released that last night, so I had to
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: start with this. The critics say most of this actually
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: isn't even related to heated tobacco products, or some of
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: it even is written by Philip Morris employees.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: So and there's a lot of confusion in this space.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Just really simply, heated tobacco products were already in New
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Zealand's market.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: They were already here.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: What we know from health was that it was significantly
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: less harmful than smoking. That we know that Health New
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Zealand released that, and we know other jurisdictions where heated
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: tobacco had been used we'd seen significant smoking reductions. So
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: what we did was a trial to make a price
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: differential to see is people who are hardcore, long term
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: addictive smokers, which is what we're dealing with now, had
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: other options. So when I met with quit smoking providers
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: as well, they confirmed that they are dealing with people
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: who all the existing products, including vaithing, aren't working and
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: are there other products. So this is a trial. So
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: one thing amongst the whole range of things that we're producing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So the Ministry of Health told you specifically that heated
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: tobacco tobacco products are proven to be less harmful than smoking.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, and this is the data, and this has been
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: released to media as well, that there's in terms of
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: the harm reduction, the number of products that are less harmful,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: there's a range of products that are less harmful, and
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: heated tobacco, which was already in the market in New Zealand,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: was less harmful. So therefore, if you're trying to and
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: vaping since twenty eighteen, as much as we hate vathing
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: has been a significant contributor to our mass of reduction
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: and making.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Will people because an all, heated tobacco products are worse
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: than vaping, right, so.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: The worry they're not as low harm.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: So, but the worries you have people go from vaping
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: to heat heated tobacco products.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: No, and this was this was the point. We weren't
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: this This is just one option that we were trialing
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: to see if it could provide some support to the
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: smoking rates. And you know, it's really frustrating when I
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: you know, this is such a massive issue. When I
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: met with the heated quit smoking providers throughout New Zealand,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: the frontline workers delivering the services. I'm told that I'm
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: the first minister to actually meet with the frontline providers. Okay,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: so this is this is why we're doing stuff. We're
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: talking to the people who are delivering the service.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I have three really quick yes, no questions, and then
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I'm done with this and we can move to police.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Do you trust tobacco companies and their advice?
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Well, I've never dealt with tobacco companies, so I have
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: no one of these.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I've written some of these reports, haven't they that?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: This is where there's been some discussion that they have
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: funded research, but.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Research trust research fund.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: That This is why we're talking about. This is a
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: range of advice, a range of advice that has been
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: given for a product that is less.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: His lux and or his office been in contact with
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: you over the last twenty four hours.
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: Not with me, No, But who was who?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: With Winston?
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: No.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: I haven't had any contact with the promis's office. I'm
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: assuming my staff has met with his staff around what
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: we're doing and while the media noise, but as he said,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: he fully supports what we're doing. We're on a pathway
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: to achieving a common target. We're all trying to get
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: to smoke through twenty twenty five, we've just got a
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: different approach.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Speaking of targets the police, obviously we need more police
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: on the beat. This must be encouraging. The number of
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: applicants to go to Police Training College.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, we're over double what we for the same period
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: last year were overdouble the number of applications. And the
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: one that's really encouraging. We've had seventy three so far
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: either rejoin or apply to rejoin the police. And our
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: attrition rate is still below five percent, which you compare
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: to other public services which range between eleven and fifty
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: four percent atrition rates. Police are at four point eight.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: So you know, all of stuff we're doing about investing
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: in frontlines policing, supporting them to get back to their
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: core functions of keeping our community safe is really working.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: And it won't.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Great news, and it won't compromise the quality of the training.
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: No, absolutely not.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: We have totally committed to ensuring that we maintain the
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: same standards that we're not going to compromise that in
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: any way, shape or form. But what we have seen
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: is a massive increase in the number of people interested,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: and that's that's fantastic news.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: All right, minister, thank you very much for your time.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. Casey had a great day. The
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Associate Minister of Police with US also Associate Health. Just
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: gone eight minutes away from six News Talk SIBB News.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: And Views You Trust to start your day's early edition
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: and a Flying Store.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: News Talk SIBB five away from six. Roy has a
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: novel approach on smoking. He says, just make smokes two
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: dollars a packet for adults and stop ripping people off.
• 32:25
  Speaker 14: See this debate about Ryan. Hello, it's hither here. I'm
• 32:28
  Speaker 14: like one of.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Those welcome yeah, thank you.
• 32:31
  Speaker 14: I'm like one of those people that just joins the
• 32:32
  Speaker 14: phone conversation, like your husband's on the phone and the
• 32:34
  Speaker 14: speaker and you just chip in. That's me right now.
• 32:37
  Speaker 14: You've tried. The debate is about these what.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Are they called icoss? Yes, I have tried one of them.
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I tried them two like years and years ago.
• 32:47
  Speaker 14: Because I've actually been on the market for age eighties.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and because I used.
• 32:51
  Speaker 14: To smoke when I was young, like twenty years ago,
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: and so from time to time, you know, you have
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: a couple of beers and then you think, oh, there
• 32:56
  Speaker 14: would be loveling them. That's not a good idea. And
• 32:59
  Speaker 14: one time I actually I think with an employee of
• 33:02
  Speaker 14: Philip Morris and tried it. And I don't really understand
• 33:06
  Speaker 14: the argument quite. I mean, this is not science, but
• 33:09
  Speaker 14: I can kind of see how Casey Castello could say
• 33:12
  Speaker 14: that they may not be as harmful as siggi's because
• 33:14
  Speaker 14: it's not nearly as harsh as a SIGI when you.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Know, try it. The problem is can she prove it right?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: And that's what the whole debate is about, and what
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: evidence is she using to prove it. We've just had
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Casey to that point.
• 33:24
  Speaker 14: Can I say also to that point, we can't say
• 33:27
  Speaker 14: that vaping is less harmful than smoking.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: We don't have long term We don't know, we don't
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: have long term right, would be just.
• 33:33
  Speaker 14: As bad, if not worths you're smoking, but it's bringing
• 33:35
  Speaker 14: all these weird chemicals in.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: But if you do it, you know it, do you
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? And feel as yeah, no, it doesn't.
• 33:41
  Speaker 14: That's what I'm saying, right, So SIGI is like your
• 33:43
  Speaker 14: nuclear option of yuckness. Then the Q cost or whatever
• 33:47
  Speaker 14: it's called like whatever, you know, that thing that's less
• 33:50
  Speaker 14: and then the vaping feels less as well. Anyway, we're
• 33:53
  Speaker 14: going to talk to the Chief Executive Health New Zealand
• 33:56
  Speaker 14: after seven o'clock because a five hundred million dollar surplus
• 33:58
  Speaker 14: in May turned into a billion dollar deficit for the
• 34:01
  Speaker 14: jude How does that happen?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Quite messie?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, look forward to that, Heather with you next.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Have a great weekend. I'll see you on Monday.
• 34:16
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