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New Big 3 · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast,
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  Speaker 1: my thoughts on Tyler the Creator's new album, Chromacopeia, the
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  Speaker 1: track listing for Snoop and Doctor Dre's follow up to
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  Speaker 1: Doggie Style Missionary has just been released, and do we
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  Speaker 1: need numerous posthumous albums from deceased artists? I promise respectfully,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be respectful, but we gotta talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Welcome to your pop Now podcast. Ask
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  Speaker 1: I got some really really really dope things coming up,
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  Speaker 1: one thousand, and I gotta say, maybe two three weeks
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  Speaker 1: ago we hit five hundred. I'm like, man, we had
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  Speaker 2: Let's get right into the business stuff a man so.
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  Speaker 1: Recently as in this past week. If you're from the future,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to get your ass out of here. Man,
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  Speaker 1: you already know, Man, album out for you because you're
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  Speaker 1: from the future.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: For those who don't know what I mean when I
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  Speaker 1: say that, I'm talking about the fact that once I
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  Speaker 1: air this podcast and it's new, right, someone down the
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  Speaker 1: line will discover this very episode, and it could be
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  Speaker 1: two three years from now. So that's what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, Man, that album already dropped. Of
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  Speaker 1: course it did. Bro I've recorded three years ago. Well
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  Speaker 1: for the now, well, first of all, shout out to
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  Speaker 1: you man, watch my video three years later, I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I can share so one of the most
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  Speaker 1: anticipated albums from a producer a duo this year. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: it was Pee Rocket, Common Right and L and Q Tip,
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  Speaker 1: But there is two more, one of which I honestly
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  Speaker 1: do not think is dropping this year. That's Nonsen DJ Premier.
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  Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem like it's going to happen, but
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  Speaker 1: who knows, Maybe it is going to happen. You still
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  Speaker 1: have time before the end of the year. But one
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  Speaker 1: of the ones I was excited for that. They was like,
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  Speaker 1: it's dropping in July. Then it was like it's dropping
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  Speaker 1: in September. Then they were like it's dropping in November.
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  Speaker 1: Now they're saying it's dropping in December. And that is
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  Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg and Doctor Dre's follow up to Snoop's debut.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's had one hundred albums since then, but
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  Speaker 1: this is a direct sequel to Doggie Style entitled Missionary.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's a cute sea little title, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: I was more so focused, like y'all if you've been
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  Speaker 1: following Snoop's career, yeah, especially post Death Row. Every time
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  Speaker 1: he has teamed up with Doctor Dre on a song
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, it's been magic, right. Doctor Dre was involved.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot heavily was involved with Blue Carpet Treatment,
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  Speaker 1: which a lot of people will say if we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: look at Snoop's catalog, and honestly, it's not that many
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  Speaker 1: bad albums at all, Like it's really light on the
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  Speaker 1: bad album side. There's a lot of good albums, but
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  Speaker 1: people usually rank like Doggy Style, Blue Carpet Treatment, and
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  Speaker 1: then the rest because it was such a good album
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  Speaker 1: and the songs that Doctor Dre did with him was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when Snoop went to No Limit and I
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  Speaker 1: saw that first album cover and I heard some of
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  Speaker 1: the music and I was like, nah, Snoop doesn't sound
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  Speaker 1: good over these many fresh beats. Dot I die master
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  Speaker 1: p being the guy he is, and maybe even Snoop
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  Speaker 1: was saying something like, yo, let's go get Dre. And
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  Speaker 1: they got Dre on a couple of tracks, especially on
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  Speaker 1: his last album on No let Me called the Last Male.
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  Speaker 1: And again it was just like man Snoop and Doctor Dre. Man,
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  Speaker 1: It's like Snoop's working with Dre is just he's just
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  Speaker 1: back to who you know from the original joint. So
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  Speaker 1: this album is dropping in December. I'm trying to see
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  Speaker 1: if I could locate the Okay, December thirteenth, so y'all
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  Speaker 1: got some time. And as a new single which dropped
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  Speaker 1: today which I did not hear. It's called gorgeous, I think,
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  Speaker 1: and I will say this, let me just confirm that
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  Speaker 1: that's the actual title.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I haven't listened yet because I have a thing
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  Speaker 1: about listening to too many singles in advance, and some
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  Speaker 1: times I don't like him, like the songs. But then
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  Speaker 1: when the album drops and I hear a song within
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  Speaker 1: the context of the album, it's like, no, I actually
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  Speaker 1: do kind of like it, you know. So it's up
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  Speaker 1: and are whether I'll listen to that record. But they
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  Speaker 1: released the track listen, and I will say this, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's just go over the names and then I'll say
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  Speaker 1: what I think. So the track listen for Snooping Doctor
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  Speaker 1: Dre's Missionary fifteen songs right features include Bja to Chicago
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  Speaker 1: Kid Doctor Dre. Obviously, what's her name is? Janey ako Eco?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about if you like her,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Petty and jelly Row. Okay, that's interesting. Sting method
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  Speaker 1: Man's on here. The verses probably will be fired from meth.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just skid it out the way the fifty eminem.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying not to just do a bunch of R
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  Speaker 1: and B people because it's people will here more Doctor Dre.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So for the most part, those other people involved now
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  Speaker 1: just off the track listed. People are so happy to
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  Speaker 1: go to Twitter to say, not just Twitter, social media
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  Speaker 1: in general, to say this doesn't look good. Sting jelly Roll,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Petty, I'm with you, I'm afraid I'm not gonna lie,
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  Speaker 1: but I trust doctor Dre.
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  Speaker 2: And he's with Snoop.
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  Speaker 1: It would be a monumental failure if they work on
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  Speaker 1: a full album together for the first time in a
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  Speaker 1: long time and you don't get what you're expecting and
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  Speaker 1: I know it's missionary, and I know it's a theme,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe you're trying to, I don't know, like clean
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  Speaker 1: it up a little bit because it's missionary. Don't do this.
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  Speaker 1: Don't do that at all. That boy, what old is
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  Speaker 1: from Mark? Don't do that at all? Why like, do
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  Speaker 1: not do that? Because you this trust me. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: big Star Wars fan. You can you can see some
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  Speaker 1: of my props back there, got lightsabers and all that.
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  Speaker 1: And as a comparison, like comparing them to Marvel, like
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  Speaker 1: Marvel knows how to satisfy a cost stand fan base
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  Speaker 1: by giving them things that are not just fans service,
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  Speaker 1: with the fans services embedded within the things they want
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  Speaker 1: to accomplish with the story.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, give us Snoop and Dre and do
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  Speaker 2: things within the confines of Snoop and Dre. All of
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  Speaker 2: these artists should be adapting to a sound that is
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  Speaker 2: familiar to us. That is, Snoop and Dre don't experiment
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  Speaker 2: with no new joints. Don't say, hey, Jelly ro Man,
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  Speaker 2: why don't you rap? We don't care about him?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, different audiences, stop ignoring us. We know who's I'm
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  Speaker 1: not excited for a fifty Eminem and Snoop. It to me,
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  Speaker 1: just them three together just never sound good, even when
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  Speaker 1: it's Eminem fifty.
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  Speaker 2: I know they've done a bunch of songs. This never
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  Speaker 2: sounds good to me. It just so he sounds weird,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So that being said, also, why don't we have any
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  Speaker 1: of that like death Row vibe from back in the days? Man,
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  Speaker 1: where's the dog Pound? Where's rage?
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  Speaker 2: Give rage?
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  Speaker 1: Another verse on another album? Look for what Rage did
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  Speaker 1: for the intro? Too doggy style for the follow up
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  Speaker 1: to not even feature some of those former death Ro
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  Speaker 1: artists who are now signed to Snoop Dogg's version of
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  Speaker 1: death Row Records. Some of them, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: all of them are. Just don't disappoint Man, you've been
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  Speaker 1: pushing this album back month by month. I know it's
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Dre's perfectionists, but I'm saying man like yo, please
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  Speaker 1: don't mess this up. Please, because as far as speaking
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  Speaker 1: for myself, this is a highly anticipated album for me.
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  Speaker 1: This has the potential to be top five and my
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  Speaker 1: top five at least right now pretty solid, So we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about the track listing for Snoop
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  Speaker 1: and Doctor Dre some of the features that are there.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just say a couple of titles, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like for play right, there's missionaries there, obviously gorgeous hard knocks.
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  Speaker 1: I get the feeling that joints probably traditional Dra and Snoop.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, out of the blue, last dance with Mary Jane. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if that's a weed song, and that's a song with
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  Speaker 1: Tom Petty and Jelly Ro, if it comes out to
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  Speaker 1: be something really dope, then oo cares who's featured. Pressure
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  Speaker 1: another part of me with Sting? Please do not have
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  Speaker 1: Sting is cool, but not have him singing what I
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  Speaker 1: think you're doing. I hope Michael Jackson has another part
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  Speaker 1: of it. Don't don't do that, okay, And I'm putting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of rules on Doctor Drae Snoop, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying guns in smoke that's fifty cent eminem But who
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  Speaker 1: knows what that's going to sound like a sticky situation
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  Speaker 1: now or never, gangst the polls, the negotiator. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of again, I feel like I keep using this phrase.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of cautiously optimistic. I'm gonna just say it again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a fan, not that fan, but I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler the Creator just released a brand new album entitled
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  Speaker 1: Chroma Copia. I believe that's the name, right, Chroma Copia.
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  Speaker 1: Let's make sure we get it right. Fourteen songs coming
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  Speaker 1: in just under an hour, around fifty three minutes. A
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  Speaker 1: couple of the features include Doshi, Sandagold Schoolboy, Q Daniel, Sesar,
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  Speaker 1: Caesar Damn. I'm giving them all consecration, then Glowrilla, Sexy Red,
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  Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, Teezo.
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  Speaker 2: Touchdown walking around like Tizo.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what they That's what Kendrick was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: But for the most part, y'all know what it is.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to this podcast and reviews and reactions
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  Speaker 1: to albums, I give the three listen joint. This is
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  Speaker 1: for the new people, so people who know just chill,
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  Speaker 1: but I give it three listens, right. First listen is
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  Speaker 1: my impression. Second listen is kind of to drill down,
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  Speaker 1: listen to the lyrics, absorbed the concept, really analyze the beats,
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  Speaker 1: and the third listen I give it is to confirm
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  Speaker 1: what I think about the album.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes when it's a bad album that my rule is
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  Speaker 1: like a courtesy, like I'm just going to make sure
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  Speaker 1: it's as whack as I think it is. And when
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  Speaker 1: it's a good album, it's almost natural I want to
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  Speaker 1: run it back after this second or third listen. So therefore,
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  Speaker 1: to me, I could walk away feel like I know
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  Speaker 1: the album and then I go on and listen to
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  Speaker 1: it some more if I like it. But I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna hold y'all for those who want the score right
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  Speaker 1: up front, I think this is gonna be in my
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  Speaker 1: top five of the year.
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think it pushes one of the projects I had
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  Speaker 1: in my top five into my best of the year,
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  Speaker 1: but out of my top five. And I say that
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  Speaker 1: because of a number of reasons that I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: really quick low Kei Tyler the creator has been on
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  Speaker 1: a four album run that is good to great. Talking
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  Speaker 1: about the albums good to great could be great to
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  Speaker 1: classic for some people that being a flower boy then
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  Speaker 1: Igor then what was the last one. What was the
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  Speaker 1: what the DJ Drama one? I should have I should
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  Speaker 1: have had it out because I always forget the title.
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  Speaker 1: Anytime somebody makes a sentence their title, I forget it.
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  Speaker 1: Like if it ain't one word, two words, maybe I'll forget.
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  Speaker 1: But the name of the album with DJ Drama from
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one was called Me If You Get Lost.
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  Speaker 1: Now the thing is is, this is the follow up
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  Speaker 1: to that album. And for those who maybe jumped on
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  Speaker 1: board with Tyler Whant, the DJ Drama album dropped because
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  Speaker 1: it was really he was like really rapping. It was
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  Speaker 1: really about bars and almost like boom back.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. What you have to understand
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  Speaker 2: this is a similar situation to someone like a Kendrick. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Kendrick gives you good kid Man City. Then it gives
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  Speaker 2: you a high conceptual album like to Pimper Butterfly. Then
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  Speaker 2: he turns around and gives you Damn.
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  Speaker 1: That has that vibe of good kid Man City, bars,
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  Speaker 1: you know, radio records, cool stuff. Then he gives you
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  Speaker 1: a highly concept album like Mister Morale and the Big Steppers. Now,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we are due for another Kendrick Compton type album,
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  Speaker 1: not like us notwithstanding. Right, So Tyler is the same
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  Speaker 1: way flower Boy is more on the rat side of things,
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  Speaker 1: you know, more on the boom back side of things.
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  Speaker 1: In some ways, Igor's Tyler doing more singing. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a concept that it's about a love triangle and blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. But then call me if you get loss
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  Speaker 1: brings it right back to being more especially really way
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  Speaker 1: more on the hip hop boom backside. Chromacopeia is conceptual,
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  Speaker 1: but it's sort of a mix of the Tyler that raps,
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  Speaker 1: the Tyler that sings, the Tyler that reaches for different
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  Speaker 1: flows that's experimental with the beats. And one thing I
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  Speaker 1: say about this album, I watched his speech after he
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  Speaker 1: did the listening party in the stadium, right, and what
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  Speaker 1: really got me interested, besides his track record, was the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he said he was talking about his life, like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm in my thirties, you know, forties right
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  Speaker 1: there around the corner. You know a lot of friends
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  Speaker 1: get married, having families, and you know, my biggest accomplishment
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  Speaker 1: you know today is that I bought another Ferrari or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. Right, And he said that with this
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  Speaker 1: album he realized with his previous works that he was
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  Speaker 1: never really sharing his thoughts. He was always rapping from
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  Speaker 1: the perspective of different people, different things, different situations, and
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  Speaker 1: never really talk deeply about himself, you know, and his upbringing.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of this album, he said, is based
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  Speaker 1: off of questions and conversations he would have with his mother,
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  Speaker 1: who is featured on this album a lot more than
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  Speaker 1: she was the last album. And with that in mind,
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  Speaker 1: I went in and listened, and I have to say,
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  Speaker 1: this is a great album.
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  Speaker 2: It is is. This is why it would crack my
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  Speaker 2: top five.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's one thing to like albums, because the beats
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  Speaker 1: are dope, the bars is dope. It's hip hop, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's another thing to take all of those different elements beats, bars, harmony,
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  Speaker 1: you know, different types of tracks, different types of features,
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  Speaker 1: putting them all together in different ways, different concepts. And
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  Speaker 1: this album in particular of being steeped in his reality
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  Speaker 1: and him sharing stories about himself, stories about his mother's,
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  Speaker 1: stories about how he feels about his father, and in particular,
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  Speaker 1: that song stuck with me the most, like him Oh
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  Speaker 1: stood out the most to me at the point in
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  Speaker 1: time I first heard it because it comes across like yo,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know my father, but everybody tells me I'm
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  Speaker 1: like him, but I don't know him, so therefore there's
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  Speaker 1: no real attachment. But by the end, and especially when
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  Speaker 1: you hear his mother talking, she's explaining how much she's
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like his father, that much he looks like and walk
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like him, all of that, but she says, the nature
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of your relationship, which him across to me is not
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: really being positive, especially in the lyrics, is not your
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: father's fault. It's my fault. I created that separation. I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: kept you away from him in a lot of regards,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and I apologize for it. And there's a lot of
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: moments on this album that are that serious, serious subjects
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that don't come across as serious. When you hit the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: beats right, that's typically when somebody makes a song like that,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: it's like, go get the piano, you know, and then
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you say, yo, I'm sorry, could do it like it's.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: A whole mood.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: But not every song for him is like that. And
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's what I like about this album the most.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: And this is what I like about Tyler the Creator. Now,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I wasn't the biggest fan of the Goblin Dude the
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: best to do because there was a lot of shock value.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And you know, for me at.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: My stage in my life, that didn't get me excited
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: as much as it did you know, way back in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the days when I wanted to see how wow the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: lyric could get. That's why I was a fan of
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Eminem because I was like, Eminem just says some crazy stuff.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: After a while, you know, that's for the kid. I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: don't really care to hear that from Eminem on anybody.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: But again, when I heard flower Boy, I was like, Nah,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: this dude is this dude is different. He's just not
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: a better rapper than I thought. He's a better artist
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: than I thought, which begs the question. And it's funny
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: because another fellow podcaster brought it up in a different way.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Joe Budden recently said that Tyler the Creator has a
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: better catalog than J Cole, and quite honestly, I don't
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: think I disagree with him.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: With J Cole's catalog, it's a lot I like. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: like Born Center, obviously, I like twenty fourteen Forest Hills Drive, right,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I even like kod you know, I like the last
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: album like the Bench or whatever, Off the Bed. I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what it was called. The one way he
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: was just really bad. I really like a lot of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: what Ja Cole does. He probably maybe has two or
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: three albums that don't you know, I'm kind of like, nah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I'll probably never go back and listen to that ever.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: But Tyler the creator to have this kind of a run.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But the albums like J Cole, his albums that are
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: really good are just better as full albums than J
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: cole albums that are really good. And the difference is
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: is Jake Cole you can kind of see his concepts
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: coming from a mile away. They not to say like
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: they're limited, but they kind of are, or at least
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to a person of my age who has experienced a lot.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: So the subject matter never surprises me. But you know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: just like mentioning this song like him like on Tyler
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to create his new album, just the.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Way he puts it together.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And it's not just about his lyrics, you know, it's
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: about his mother being on the end and revealing why
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that relationship was.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, it's a lot. It's later.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: There's a lot being done to convey the message of
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: this song, and I feel like J Cole typically does
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that within a verse or two, but it could kind
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of become, you know, I don't know, numbing in some ways,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: because it becomes monotone. Even though a lot of people
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: didn't like kod from Ja Cole, I did and I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: kind of wanted him to do more of that put
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: his pen to the test in that way, and I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: think people scared him away from doing concept albums, which
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I hate because it's.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Like why not. He's done a million of the other records.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: But while I disagree, I mean, while I agree with
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Joe Budden, I will say this, y'all. J Coole has
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: put himself in a position where being a part of
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the Big three is. He was always third to me,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: but now I really feel like he's third considering all
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the goat talk and I'm number one, and I wish
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: somebody would and he did nothing, okay, and now he's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: apologizing to Drake Like I, all of that kind of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: soured me and it makes it difficult to listen to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: some of those types of bars from him. His music
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: absolutely takes a hit for a lot of people, even
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: if they used to like it. How of the Creator
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: is probably number three creatively, he's probably number three now.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: His style of music again, is more Kendrick and Childish
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Scambino than anything, and maybe even Chance to Rapper. But
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's better than Chance the Rapper. He's better
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: then Childish Gambino in my opinion. He in this same
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: record says he's basically number two behind Hendrick, and I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: think he is. I think Drake's still there because I'm
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: telling you my playlist of Drake music is just unmatched.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But I think this battle did some damage to how
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: we view those two, you know rappers in particular. Can
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: J Cole lyrically bar for bar rap Tyler of the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Creator under the Bus? I believe so, But don't sleep
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: on Tyler's pen either, because he's never been in a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: battle like that, but he's fully capable. I just think
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that his music output has now surpassed somebody like a J. Cole,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and I think with Drake, his music is just more meaningful.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And obviously this is my view of the Big three,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: but I always put Kendrick at the top because I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: feel like he did what the other two did, but
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: his music was more meaningful. There was more there to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: chew on. As a fan of music in general, let
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: alone a hip hop fan and tell her the Creator
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: does something very similar. Drake has the melodies and keep
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: making me dance and waving my hands.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: That's a solid three.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: You know he number one with that because there's a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: lot of other people I don't mess with who do that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe maybe not. What do you think?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Did you hear Tyler the Creator's new album Chromophobia? Do
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: you not care? Do you care?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: What rate do you give it? Leave your comments in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: a comments section below. And lastly, so yeah, I'm not
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: even gonna hold you all. We're not gonna spend too
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: much time on this. But there is a new song
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: from Gangstar DJ Premier and Guru rest in Peace Guru
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: entitled Finishing, which is supposed to be a new single
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: from an upcoming Gangstar album.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Now, Premier did a.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Masterful job with the last Gangstar album with a number
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of unreleased Guru versus that the way he put it together,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you would have thought him and Guru worked on this album.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: It was perfect. It was the perfect send off as well.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So I was more than satisfied with that posthumous album
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: dropping because typically we get albums where there are a
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: lot of unfinished versus unfinished songs and they throw a
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: bunch of features on the album and none of them
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: sound real, and we know the person is not here anymore,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and they sound like they're not hearing them anymore, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't work right. This new single Finish Him
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: for Gangstar is not good to me. The beat is
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: typical of what Premier does now. I do like the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: beat switch because I didn't see that. I didn't foresee
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that when I heard it, but it literally sounds now.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: It literally sounds like he had a verse and a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: hook from Guru and he turned it into a song.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: It's nothing special whatsoever. And I think maybe if I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: had a different beat, I don't know, but who knows
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: what Guru thought about this verse in hook when he
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: was making it. So I am not optimistic for any
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: new Gangstar album. But also, as some people know, Havoc says,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Havoc and Alchemists have been working on a new Mob
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Deep album, which includes a lot of unreleased product. Now
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it as long as they do
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it in the same way that Premier put together the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: first posthumous album for Gangstar. Right to me, that was perfect.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: If it can sound like have and p are to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: collectively working on this album, and it doesn't sound like
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: these are some Prodigy versus from different studios in different times,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: and his younger voices on this track, his older voices
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: on that track. If you can't make it sound like
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Prodigy was here to help with the album, don't do it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: So we'll see about that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: But then also in my email, before I even saw
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: a headline, I saw from a promoter send me an email,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: new DMX album on the way now, DMX, when he passed,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: he had already been working on an album, right, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that album was the album that dropped after he passed.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: And when I heard it, even though as far as
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: DMX albums go, it was cool. At least it felt
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: like something that DMX was working on with Swiss Beats,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and honestly, that's what I liked about it. It was like, Yo,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: this sounds like what X was working on. This new
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: posthumous album. They're like, it's about to drop, is loaded
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: with features, meaning again here we go, there you know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: verse here, verse there, you know. DMX at this point
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: is like, that's what the survives are getting. I don't
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: like those albums. I didn't like Biggie's Born Again. I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: appreciate the efforts, but I was just I don't like it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I never listened to that album. Maybe I'll hit a
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: song or two from that album that's actually good, but
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: for the most part, no, no. So with that being said,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I did a show called like the best posthumous albums
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: in Hip Hop? Right, and believe it or not, there
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: are a couple, right Pop have some you know, Life
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: after Death was released after Biggie pass but it was
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: basically done right. But it's still a posthumous album if
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: it drops after the fact. A couple of people you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: know have had those situations and sometimes it's.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Not good. Most times it's not good.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: It's rare that it's a good thing, right, Like like
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Dog the last Tribe album. Fife was a part of
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that album, so he's on the majority of the album
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: in a way, they created him and cut it, created
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the album together. And there may be a song or
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: two where he wasn't but you literally cannot tell because
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of how Q Tip put it together. You know, Fife
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: isn't hear them all, but when you listen, you just
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: know that, No, Fife worked on this album. He didn't
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: just get started. He worked on this album. So plenty
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: of new verses from him. I feel like those are
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the albums, those are the only albums that should be
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: released when you talk about possumous albums, because those are
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the only ones that are good. Now, I will say this,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: speaking to the Gangstar thing. If Premiere just so happened
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to say, y'o, I have a few Gangstar records that
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: never really fit any of the albums we were dropping.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And by the time you know, we got to a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: later album, some of those songs we couldn't even use
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: because the vibe was older compared to music that was
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: out at the time. But hiss like a lost tapes
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: of Gangstar songs throughout the years that didn't make albums,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: But we still feel like they're good. Absolutely, I'll take it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: You know why, because the context is this is old.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: We did this in ninety three, We did that joint
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: in like nine to six, and we did that joint
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in nine to four. There's a story to be told there, right,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And it's not made up and it's not manufactured. It's
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: really just saying were opening the vaulte for some songs
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you guys have never heard. We like them, but if
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: we put them all on one album for this reason
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: we think people are rock with it. I'm saying, can
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: we get that? So that's what I feel like with
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the Mob Deep joint, Like, Yo, did y'all record any
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Mob Deep records?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Are there any records that didn't make like, you know,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: like mixtape, best of kind of B side things like
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: free Agents and stuff like that?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Was that all of them? So I would prefer.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: That when you're talking about posthumous albums from rappers.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I just would prefer if they do it, it's done right,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: because otherwise, sometimes these albums like what this DMX album
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: is gonna be and kind of what this Gang Star
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: at least from the first single sounds like it's gonna be.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: It just reminds us that these people are no longer here.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: It just does is a greater feeling for the fan.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: If you know Prodigy was working with Havoc on that
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: album and we just wanted to bring it to y'all,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: then you feel like Prodigy left you one last dope album,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you know, before he left, instead of maybe Prodigy never
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: really wanted that Bursts out ever, he didn't like it,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: but here it is on this new single, so I
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see you know what. I haven't heard
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the full Gangstar album.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm anticipating.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: The Mob Deep album and I will not listen to
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the DMX album because I can do it. So there
• 36:21
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