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Ep.46 CA Voter fraud or Republican apathy? With LAGOP Chair Roxanne Hoge · The Orange Report with Kira Davis

• speaker-0: Well, hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Orange Report with Kira Davis. All the news and views you can use from around California, Orange County, and America, because California news is America news. You may notice that I have a guest with me today, but some home ⁓ housekeeping first. ⁓ make sure you're signed up everywhere, Orange Report O. C or right here at Kira Davis. We live stream to X, YouTube, Facebook. Make sure you're signed up everywhere. I'm so pleased. To welcome to the show today, my good friend and the chairwoman of Los Angeles County GOP, Roxanne Hogue. Roxanne, welcome to the show. speaker-1: Thank you so much for having me, Kira. It's always great to visit with you, whether it's over ⁓ the airwaves or in person. Yeah. speaker-0: Roxanne and I have known each other for quite a while. and I know her husband, Bob, who is a great writer over at redstate.com. I was one of his editors for a while over there. And this is a great family. ⁓ we have some not so great stuff to talk about today, Roxanne. ⁓ I do want to talk I I do wanna start with the news coming out of New York. This is the opposite coast, but same, you know, same size, different shape. ⁓ New York had quite the Quite the election yesterday. DSA is ascending. Mom Donnie backed candidates went three for three for congressional seats. I find it frightening. A couple of them are outright Islamists and they're all anti-Semites. And ⁓ very bold. One of the, you know, one of the candidates says, you know, we deserve nine eleven, and the other one wants to defund the police, and the other one wants to ban Jews. What did we just witness? In New York and do we need to be concerned in the rest of the country and here in California? speaker-1: What we just witnessed is the inexorable leftward lurch that happens to many people when they ignore the perils of Marxism. And whether it's Marxism along with Islamo fascism or Marxism on its own, or Marxism that skins the Democrat Party and wears it as a skin suit, make no mistake, collectivism is the enemy here. And what we witnessed. Is what you and I talk about all the time with our Fanjan Van Lauren, how we met over ⁓ AB5 is that you ignore and make fun of the the deep the people who have to live behind the blue curtain at your peril because it's coming for you. The reason my family came to America was fleeing the very predictable result of what happens when Democrat socialists take over a government. It happened in Jamaica, it's happened many, many other places, and now it's happening in New York. And let me tell you what the rest of the movie is. If you have assets of any kind, if you are problematic in any way, this will end at the tip of a spear and the point of a gun. That's what I learned as a little girl whose family fled with fifty dollars and a suitcase each. They're coming for you. speaker-0: They are they're coming for they absolutely are. And I'm I'm so glad you mentioned, you know, the idea of stop scoffing at us, you know, in these blue states. Now we had we just came through a very contentious and shady primary election cycle here in California. Steve Hilton is the Republican and he's pushed through to the to November. I have some thoughts about that. Steve ran a good race and he earned every vote, but I do think that the fix was in. And for some reason, maybe because of what happened in I, our Democrat partners decided not to push forward. This is my opinion. However, we it was brutal in Los Angeles. And I think a lot of people, left and right, Roxanne, felt like, look, We didn't expect Spencer to take the whole thing in November. That's not what people were looking forward to. But people were seeing a state well, you know, well, I was too. But but ⁓ you know, there were a lot of people who were who were just focused on the primary. It's just the the the thing ahead. And, you know, people weren't naive about the challenges. And so there's this whole group on the left that says, Well, well, we told you it wasn't gonna be anything different. And we're saying actually we do feel that things are different. Here. Things are changing here. The electorate is changing and yet for some reason it's not being reflected in the voting patterns and for many reasons. But the rest of the country still seems bound and determined to just scoff and roll their eyes and say, Well, you guys are getting what you voted for. I'm not so sure, Roxanne. Well there's speaker-1: There's couple things. I and I heard you today, you were on fire with our favorite ⁓ friend over at KBC, John Phillips. And I get it. And I get that when you've been mugged or hurt or lose something, it's it's very human to look for a reason. And I'm here to tell you there's a horrible reason that doesn't have to do with whatever percentage of things are are are credible. fraud allegations that can and will be prosecuted, certainly by Bill Assale. It would be really great if Rob Bonta would look into any sort of fraud. But two things happened. One is the re the Republicans helped a little bit, but crappy elections are baked in the cake here in California, and it's all legal and codified. First of all, Republicans decided to roll over and show their bellies to the world with top two with Prop 14 in 2010. That was a stupid idea. And yet it passed. And the citizens were like, this is a great idea too. And guess what they didn't realize they were doing when they passed it? They included a provision in top two that not only would primaries be open, which disenfranchised the Greens, the Libertarians, the American Independence Party. Like I'm not a member of those other parties, but that's un American to take away their ability to choose their own nominees. They also, a little known provision for removed the ability to write in a candidate in a general election. So you're stuck if you don't vote in what we call a primary and what most people ignore. Then in 2013, the Democrats were like, you know what we really need? Those poor legal aliens, they should be able to get driver's licenses. Who cares that they don't have paperwork, can't read the signage. We should have them because it's safer for all of us. And people went, ⁓ my God, you're right. That was 2013, but not put in effect until 2015. And then what happened then? I have a great idea, says Gavin. Let's have motor voter and just register everyone who ever crosses paths with the DMVs, thinking that we would forget, and a lot of people did, that we just opened up the DMV to non-c non-legal people. Then we had the COVID, ⁓ let's just make it all mail-in. Then they switched everything to align with presidential and gubernatorial years. Meaning that the elections where conservatives traditionally do really well cause no one else is paying attention, because no one else is a nerd, is that school boards and little city councils and water boards, those elections that would normally happen on a random Tuesday in the middle of an odd numbered year, those are gone. All elections now happen pretty much in the primary and the general in even numbered years, which are gubernatorial and presidential years, making it prohibitively expensive. For anyone but a multi-multi-multi-millionaire to finance a traditional campaign. So what happened with Spencer Pratt? Every conversation we have about fraud and how awful things are, and get don't mistake me, they are awful, suppresses our own vote. There were three hundred and twenty-six registered Republicans in the city of LA. 200,000 plus of them did not vote. So I cannot in good conscience claim that fraud was the issue when people didn't get off their asses. speaker-0: Right. Thank you for that. I will claim that fraud was an issue. Los Angeles ⁓ Roxanne is the president, is the chairwoman of the Los Angeles GOP. She's not gonna sit here and tell you that there was fraud. She's gonna do the work that she has to do, but I'm telling you there was fraud and I'll I'll die on that hill. I'll die on that hill, Roxanne. speaker-1: Hero? 200,000 people didn't vote. Yes, there's fraud, but there was not 200,000 votes that couldn't have overcome that, right? Because guess what happened in LA County? We won Prop 36, 7030. We won kicking out Gascon for ⁓ for Nathan Hoffman 7030. When people get off their asses, like two things can be true at the same time, right? Like you need to diet. speaker-0: Fair enough. speaker-1: And exercise to get in shape. It's the same you need to fix the voter rolls, reduce the fraud, but the only way to re to remove the baked in the cake fraud, the things that everyone in the rest of the country goes, What do you mean? You mail a ballot to everybody who's ever interacted with the guy. What are you what are you talking about? Those things you can only fix by winning. And we speaker-0: All right, great. I'm glad you said that. How do you win in a system that's rigged where the cheating's baked in? This is the question I've actually been asking myself. And you because you could or you can make the argument that those 200,000 Republicans needed to get up off their asses and get to the polls. But if they didn't even need to get up. If they did right, you don't even have to get up, right? You don't even have to get up. But if they did. Would the polls have would the percentages would that come from behind Nithia Ramen sprint have changed? It just the percentages by which the Democrats won would have changed. That's all. Because the way I see it is they they can just decide how many votes they need ⁓ up to a week after the election cycle and do it. So how this is a question I've been asking quite a bit, Roxanne. How at what What point do you say our state is no longer a functioning American state in a federalist nation because the communists have taken over and we can't even use the system to change the system anymore? speaker-1: Did Nathan Hawkman win? speaker-0: How did Nathan Hawkman when he was elected? speaker-1: Right. And who and how did how did he get elected? speaker-0: By the voter. speaker-1: People got off their asses and they overwhelmingly voted for him. So I'm not saying there's not cheating, but people don't need to cheat, right? They don't, they don't need to make much of an effort. Now, the real battle that's going on, by the way, when you say the Democrats won, it's between the DSA and the Democrats. Like Jamie Harrison, the former chair of the of the Democrat Party, just put out a a post on X Twitter where he was begging people, please don't run as a Democrat if you don't believe in our principles. Too bad, so sad. Too late. You guys have been skinned and you're being worn as a as as a as a costume by the DSA. And they planted those flags and they they that's why people have to care about Los Angeles, because the proving ground, the petri dish, the hot zone is here in LA. We have four communists on our fifteen person City Council. And that happened while everyone was watching. So Spencer did his job, which was to turn out most of the people I saw saying they were going to vote for Spencer were Democrats. The people who donated to me to get to help get out the vote, they were Democrats. But when the two I can hold two thoughts. Yes, our elections suck, and I'm from the third world, and they don't even rise to the level of third world standard standards. And At the same time, we can and should be beating the pants off people if we weren't like abused spouses and going, Well, I'm not even gonna mail in my ballot because it doesn't matter. That's what we call a self fulfilling prophecy. speaker-0: Okay, great. I make this point to my chairman, Will O'Neill, here here in Orange County all the time, which is you are absolutely right. The Republican vote is depressed. What can Republicans do to get out that vote? Because that is the job of the Republican Party. You as a chairwoman, that is actually your job to turn out the vote and to and to raise money. And and we asked Will about his job. We had Will O'Neill on the show last week. We asked him, What's your job? A lot of people think. the the chairperson is supposed to be some kind of activist. They're not. They're supposed to turn out the vote and they get the donor base going. But how do we speaker-1: So pretty clear. A county party are to register Republicans, turn out Republicans, and then the bylaws for the executive board says raise money to do the first two. speaker-0: Yes. Yeah. So and I and this is what I tell people a lot, 'cause you hear a lot of people I'm in the activist class, I don't think that we both originated there. And a lot of people will sit when they're unhappy with the party, first thing they're they say is, I'm gonna run for chair. I'm gonna run for chair. And I always tell people, you need to know what that position does. You d y I don't think you're you're the kind of control you're looking for, the kind of influence you're looking for, that's not you know, you need to look to a different area of the party, the chairperson. So a lot of people have a misunderstanding. About speaker-1: They also think the chairman gets paid. You're not allowed to be paid. speaker-0: Yes, Will O'Neill likes to point that out quite a bit. As he said, ⁓ my wife reminds me all the time that I don't get paid for the speaker-1: My husband my husband and Will's wife ⁓ have a lot in common. speaker-0: Yeah. Well as I told Will you guys I told Will you guys volunteered for it. You volunteered for it. So, you know, I would be like Bob. I would be like Bob, well you volunteered for this, crazy person. speaker-1: get it. I I signed up to be a punching bag. But the job is so it's this catch twenty two, right? Especially for LA and and this is affecting Orange County. And this is harming that firewall that we used to have with Michelle Steele's seat, with Mimi Water seat, with all those seats. People in order to sustain their own lives after being burned out of the Palisades or mugged into oblivion or having their business taxed to and and and you know, just overwrought by regulation and and and burdens from LA public health that they don't have for cartel carts, for example. They're fleeing south. They're going to Orange County. And then the other thing that's being exported to Orange County is crime and are criminals. And sadly, Will and I, you know, have talked about this a lot. He had a horrible situation happen to a tourist visiting America and South Coast Plaza or Fashion Island or one of those places was was murdered. And these are real consequences. There are no there's no bass ⁓ you know passport control or border border crossing between LA and OC, although you can go five immediately. The road is like yeah and then you're like speaker-0: Island. ⁓ Yes, it's like heaven opens up as soon as you cross the county line. speaker-1: In Orange County. This is awesome. So my job is paradoxically for free to turn out the vote. That requires money and infrastructure. And sadly, LA has been used as an ATM and left as a husk for too long. And I I said to Benny Johnson actually two weeks ago: every bleepity bleep Republican representative in DC today owes their seat to money they collected. From LA and OC. And I would like to see people send a little charity back home. Charity begins at home. It's great that we got the house. It's fabulous we have this in it. But if you see termite dust in your home and you don't deal with the wood rot and the the crumbling foundation, your house is gonna collapse and that's where we are now. speaker-0: Yeah. Last cycle in twenty four, I got word of a very prominent Orange County political organization that is a big donor organization realized they had sent was it I think it was in twenty four, I think it was in twenty two, whenever the last time DeSantis was up for reelection, they had sent DeSantis like three million dollars. We love Ron DeSantis. I we love him. He's a great governor, but he's the Florida governor. And you know, there's a lot of money in California that goes out. That's why we started this show, Roxanne, why it's called the Orange Report, because it's centered on California and Orange County politics. Because I get so sick of these people coming here raising all of their money off of the backs of our of our middle class and wealthy, raising all their money and then they take it back to DC and they make fun of us and they trash us and they don't. So we they don't want our opinions. You know, they keep telling us we're getting what we voted for. They like to laugh at us and laugh at Governor Harajel and all of that. They they want our money, they don't want our opinions. So I said, Well, we're gonna start a show where they have to hear these opinions. But you're absolutely right. I love the way you put that. You know, you have these people have come in and taken our money, you know, and we'd like the favor returned. And I think it's high time. speaker-1: A tariff system. You know, you can sure come down here and raise some money, but ⁓ if you do it in Newport, the OCGOP gets a cut, and if you do it in Beverly Hills, send it to L A G O P dot or R G. speaker-0: I love to hear it. Absolutely. Well, I I wanted to circle back around really quickly though, Roxanne, to the point the original question I asked. And then I want to move on to this prop thirteen prop thirteen stuff because it never ends here. But but what do Republicans do to get out the vote? The vote is depressed and for good reason. And so I brought Will up because I always tell Will, you know, you can't be scolding the voters. I get that frustrated, but we can't keep scolding them. We've been scolding them about not voting early. But But Republican voters don't like to vote early and for good reason. And this year they did. And look what happened. Didn't matter. Democrats held their ballots. Now we gotta vote late. So how do you how do you specific speaker-1: Basically, the Democrats held their ballots because they had a corruption and rapist problem. And so they're they're they didn't have a front runner for governor. But the DSA is the particular like that's their methodology, is holding ballot harvesting. So how do we motivate people without making without shaming them, without spanking them, without and and that is not my intention at all. We have to give them something to vote for. And by the way, this This depression, this battered spouse syndrome that I tell people has happened to voters in and by the way, here's why LA matters, just in case anyone ⁓ I I know everyone's gonna bring this up. I saw the map after the last election and the whole state is red and there's just a little speaker-0: Blue on me. speaker-1: If you explode that map, ask a cartographer to explode that map by population, that little sliver of blue covers three-quarters of the state. So LA County alone is 25% of the electorate. LA plus OC, San Diego, Riverside, and San Bernardino is 55% of the electorate. So Southern California, and by the way, this is a problem for the Democrat Party as well. I have people that I I do stuff with for a college professor has us all come in and talk to her students, one rare college professor. They have the same problem. You'll notice they take all the money from Southern California and then every player comes out of San Francisco and and North California Northern California. So how do we do it? Well, we recognize, first of all, that it didn't happen overnight. Voters in California were very conservative, like the decision or not. They voted for traditional marriage. They voted to not like with Prop 8. They voted to to not spend, you know, taxpayer money on people who have broken and entered into the United States, which is another way of describing illegal immigration. And both those instances, with the swipe of a pen, a judge went, Yeah, too bad, so sad. You voted so what? So there's a real reason that they feel that their votes haven't counted. And that's why I always talk about Prop 36. And why Steve Hilton's conversation needs to be: if you voted for Prop 36, vote for me. Because it turns out that people don't like being mugged. And the definition of a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. And while we are the land of fruits and nuts and la la land, and California is very unique. And I don't think, by the way, that the Eastern Seaboard understands the West at all, least of all Los Angeles, California, we're very We're just so different. We're very like, at the same time, we're meh, we're also sort of very rugged individualists and quirky. But we need to have a reason to feel it's worth our time to even give the ballot back to the mailman. And so for me, our messaging is all about you're not alone and what are the sort of things that we can all agree on, right? We can't have these fights in the 20 areas. What we all agree on? Hey, I don't like being mugged. How about you? I don't like paying five-star prices for half-star service. How about you? Most of all, like I would like California to be California again. We were always full of a diversity of voices and looks and opinions, and it was just it was the West. And so let's uncorporatized California. Let's bring back, you know, that sort of surfer culture where you just ride out and you catch a wave and you can go from being a Ralph's checkout girl to the number one movie star in the world, Michelle Pfeiffer out of Orange County. Like let's bring that back. It's the land of opportunity. speaker-0: Sure. Yeah. I'd love to bring that back. I just we don't seem to have a system that can bring it back. And that is really what I'm concerned about. I am not sure that the Republican infrastructure has the ability to overcome the cheating that, as you say, is baked in now to the cake. That's what I'm really trying to dig into. speaker-1: Here's the thing. There are 1,100,000 registered Republicans in LA County. 1,100,000. Brian Dolly, when he was running for governor, came out of LA County with sub 500,000 votes. Even ⁓ John Cox, who did sort of better, ⁓ there was it was a higher turnout than, so he had like eight, nine hundred thousand votes. Steve Elton, a master communicator, a person who's saying all all the right things and has all the right policies backing him up, needs to exit LA County with over a million votes. In other words, it's a it's a horrible way to say it, but he needs to lose LA by less. Usually the Republican gets out of LA with like 33% of the vote. Donald Trump with universal name ID and all the money in the world, more than God himself, tops out at 40% Steve Hilton and all those statewide candidates need to get to 45%. And again, When you talk about cheating, which again needs to be addressed, it doesn't help me build infrastructure. It doesn't give me a dollar to contact a voter and say, Hey, you're not alone. What we built in this last primary, we built a custom voter guide for every because LA, this is what people don't understand. In the primary, there will be around 900 candidates running in around 500 contests that are sent out in the mail. God bless the LA registrar for figuring out like how you pull up, well, we built that because our voters, the other thing that our vote is that we're really conscientious. And so we don't want to vote for judges because we don't know which judges are what and who's for water board and what's the board of equalization. We're making it easy peasy one stop shopping with a customizable voter guide. You put in your address and you get your list of candidates you can vote for. It's going to take money speaker-0: Is that speaker-1: For me to get that out to everyone. And because of how big LA is, again, 4,600 square miles. I know Will O'Neill and the OCGOP ne like to say, don't LAROC, but we have 24 assembly districts and you guys have like six or seven. So we have a lot of ground to cover with me and a bunch of volunteers. And so we have a chance to have charity begin at home, to have our donors in LA put on their own oxygen masks before they help. People in Nebraska get to DC before they help got Ron DeSantis, who I love, be governor of California. ⁓ let's help make Steve Hilton governor of California, sorry, of Florida, by sending resources to the one party operation. I have no overhead. I got no office, I got no staff, I got no people. Every dime practically is going to go into voter turnout. Let's see what happens. Let's give it the old college try because you're right. We are at the precipice. I actually remember asking my mom because when we fled Jamaica, they just told us the night before because it was so dangerous you couldn't sort of say goodbye to people in advance. Not quite sound and music level, but getting there. Is we need to make a play here. We need to plant a flag here. As Willie Sutton said, I rob banks because that's where the money is. LA and Southern California are where the votes are. So we need to play on. Our territory in Los Angeles. speaker-0: All right, celebrities in Los Angeles, you heard it here. If you're sick of the way things are, you got some extra money in your pocket. Don't send it to excuse me, don't send it across the country for a candidate you like. Maybe think about hitting up LA G O P, seeing what their efforts are. You can do it, you can donate anonymously. You know, you don't have to like make a big deal out of it. speaker-1: You can't like it's always public record. So I just speaker-0: But I mean you don't have to get out and have a press conference about it, is what I'm saying. You don't have to get out and have a press conference about it. You don't have to put on a MAGA hat. There are places for you to send your money. And I know this is what everybody hates to hear in politics is that winning takes money. But guess what? Mit winning takes money. That it really it really it takes money. speaker-1: Yep. And you can rest assured, and my husband is very upset about this, I will not get a dime of it. I blew out an engine, actually, my first like six months as chair covering all the ground we have. It is vital. And you know, a lot of the donor class that we're talking about are people can write two checks. You can give to Ron DeSantis and to LA G O P. Like you can give both places. And so I think speaker-0: Right. Who can't speaker-1: They've been told, and I've been in a room and heard this. So political, savvy political donors have been told for too long, ⁓ don't give, don't give in California. It's a lost cause. Guess what you what get what guarantees you a lost cause? You miss a hundred percent of the shots you don't take. And so then you end up in and and by the way, the Republicans did this. I I have lots of criticism for it. That's why I'm chairman of the Republican Party. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: When you cede ground C E D E in education and in entertainment, and in California, which should be the crown jewel of the United States of America, which has fifty had fifty five, now fifty four, soon to be fifty three or fifty two, electoral votes and House of Representatives seats, you give up ball game. You just you tied one hand behind your back. Do the Democrats do this? They are incrementalists. speaker-0: No. speaker-1: They send millions of dollars to Beto to run in Texas for God's sake again. speaker-0: in Oklahoma right now. They're running South Carolina Rhino candidates right now. They are they are making a push. And absolute this is one of the things I've always said. And in the past, if you want help from the National Republican Party here in California, they'll tell you it's not worth our time. But as you said, this is, you know, fifty two, fifty three electoral votes. Imagine if California was a red state again. You know, what do you mean it's not worth your time? speaker-1: I'm purple. And guess what? We're not gonna get any help from national Republicans. That's fine. I'm talking to the people here at home. And don't doubt what people can do to inspire others. The first time I heard you, Kira, was on was it Larry Elder? Did he have you on one of the first of that first rant? Yeah. And I'm like, ⁓ my God, there's another person in the entertainment business who's has the balls to stand up. We're actually gonna do. I was just talking to someone. We're hoping to do an event late summer, early fall, ⁓ to sort of award and celebrate actors and musicians and entertainers ⁓ who speak up and and are brave because courage is contag it's contagious. And so in the brainstorming for it, someone said, Y the award should just be two balls. Like and I was like, I don't know if I can do that. It's a great idea. speaker-0: There's probably someone in LA who would make that too. speaker-1: They sell them and they hang at the you know, when you're driving on a road trip, you can see them. I don't anybody wants to put that on their bookshelf. I'm also not sure it's appropriate for a political party to have that. But maybe there's a way to do it with like a basketball and a soccer ball and a you know, those kind of balls. speaker-0: Maybe. Well, we'll put a pin in that. All right. I want to I wanna switch topics real quick here. I want to move to what's going on with Prop 13. If you're not in California, this might sound a little unfamiliar to you, but I always say to my national listeners, you need to pay attention because I promise you it's coming to ⁓ a place near you. So Prop 13 is one of our most hallowed policies here in California where the citizens voted to protect. their property taxes from being raised. And the as a result, Democrat the Democrat supermajority is always, always trying to find a workaround. They found another workaround. So we got the signatures and added an amendment or a proposition to the ballot in November that would protect us, close some loopholes and protect from this latest, this latest attack on Prop 13. And it's a really big deal. I speaker-1: I mean the thing the particular attack, the line of attack that they've taken is it Prop thirteen capped property taxes at one to two percent of the of the assessed value when you bought the house. But the other thing it did was require a two thirds vote to raise any taxes in the state of California. And that's the thing the incrementalists have been chipping away at. So that's why having it on the ballot in November is super important. speaker-0: Okay, I want to stop you here and Scott play. Let's pull up Carl Carl DeMaio. That's that last clip. Prop thirteen deal. And let's watch, Roxanne, we'll watch Carl's ⁓ this is about a minute long, just as little breakdown of what this deal is. Now the government is offering a deal, everybody. The government of California is offering a deal. They want us to pull this proposition off the ballot for November, and then cut a deal. to to help shore up prop thirteen, which is something I didn't even know could could be done. So we're gonna talk to Roxanne, but let's go ahead and and play this clip and then we'll get Roxanne's thoughts. No deal. That's the game that Gavin Newsom and California Democrats are playing in Sacramento This week, they're trying to bully our Save Prop 13 coalition into withdrawing our tax reform measure from the November ballot. Gavin Newsom and Democrats have stepped forward with a deal that they're offering us. If we accept the deal, we have to take the Save Prop 13 initiative off the ballot. The deal is as follows: Property transfer taxes will be allowed, and the two-thirds vote requirement, nope, we're not going to allow that either. But in exchange for you withdrawing the Save Prop 13 initiative from the ballot, we will cast. Property transfer taxes at between 1.5% and 3%, instead of the five or six percent that many jurisdictions have been in. This deal is a statute that the politicians are going to pass, which means the politicians can change this deal at any time. I don't trust Gavin Newsome, and neither should you. So I need your input. Should we take the deal or will you join me in fighting? speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Okay, Roxanne. ⁓ help us out here. What is break down what Carl just said. Yeah. Yeah. Same. speaker-1: That's what Carl said. No deal. Basically, they're saying, I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. And ⁓ everyone knows, so whoever watched Popeye Wimpy never paid for those burgers. Even the great Ronald Reagan got rolled by an offer of a deal on amnesty. ⁓ we're gonna give you border border security if you just let these people in. ⁓ the checks in the mail. You know, my wife and I have an understanding. Whatever it is, it is a lie. It is a complete lie. What they're trying to say is speaker-0: D. speaker-1: Yeah, we're still gonna raise taxes on you ⁓ with a simple majority, but tell you what, we'll give you this crappy deal on transfer taxes, which will only affect people who are selling their property and not people who are living in it. The thing that that they've done that is so pernicious, and this is why letting go of education and letting go of LA were such bad ideas, is we have an entire generation of young people and even people in their forties, which is young to me, who say landlords are evil. This is terrible. They get to have their houses and but okay, property taxes, let's talk about why you have to pay to rent your property from the government after you own it. Who the hell came up with that idea? Now I get that in places like Florida with no income tax, those property taxes can be super onerous and it's a way for the government to get stuff done. speaker-0: property taxes in America. There it should be there. speaker-1: However, we're not even getting what we pay for with property taxes now. It's supposed to go to education. It's supposed to, right? Remember when education in California was like the crown jewel of the country? Not so much anymore. When Mississippi and Missouri are beating ⁓ pants off of us, and the only way you can be sure in certain places that your kid learns to read, much less isn't killed in a race riot, is to go with private school. We get nothing for the property taxes we pay. So I hope John Capal and Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association and Carl and everybody stand their ground on that because there's there's no way that this is a legitimate deal. speaker-0: It's not a legitimate deal furthermore, Roxanne. I don't think the legislature and the governor would have brought the deal forward if they weren't concerned. Just like Newsom pushed Prop 50, didn't hesitate. He knew that that was gonna win. He knew that the fix was in on that. And no matter what we did, that was passing, or he wouldn't have put it on the ballot because he he can't afford a loss like that. He's running for president. Same thing with this. I think the idea that they wanna put this deal they wanna put this deal together, to me that tells me they're they know they're in trouble because if they thought it was a big deal speaker-1: Deals ever. speaker-0: No, yeah. Right. speaker-1: Ever. By the way, the other deal that's floating around Sacramento right now is hey, all right, we'll pull that five percent billionaire tax and we'll just make it two. None of these deals are good. And that's I think the biggest thing I learned when I ran for office in twenty eighteen and when ⁓ the California Republican Party had public policy briefings for those of us who made it through the top two. And when I learned that the entire of the third house, which is what they call lobbyists, which should curl your hair in Sacramento, the best they can hope for is to make things less bad slightly. So for example, the legislature is like, we're going to come up with this mandate to make everyone add $50,000 worth of solar to every house they sell. And for them, a win is getting them to make that just $30,000. Like we're not, the wins we are notching are not wins. So we might as well go for bro. speaker-0: Yeah, I agree. Go for absolute broke and then make the voters feel it if if they can't get out, you know, then the then it's on the voters. But I I'm same here. Absolutely no deal. I didn't even realize that you could make a deal. Maybe we should be cutting deals for them to revise some of this BS stuff that they're putting on our ballots. speaker-1: They're their deals, that's how Sacramento works, right? We all know it's a supermajority, a Democrat supermajority. They'll say things like, I'm very concerned about the the die in Skittles and Sour Patch kids. And all of a sudden, those candy companies are racing to give campaign contributions to those Democrats who make noise about it so that there's no bill that comes through. That's it's all a money laundering scheme. speaker-0: Kerb Morgan on this show, he's running for state controller, and he said, Look, Kira, I hate to say this, but Sacramento is basically one giant money laundering operation at this moment. And that is why I have asked the question, and I'm being serious, and no one will answer this for me. I'm quite serious. At what point does a free American state stop being a free American state in the Constitutional Republic of America? How can we call ourselves an American state, let alone how can the feds keep us as an American state if all we have is crime and communism running us? How can we continue to be an American state? What recourse do the people have to repel that? speaker-1: would if I had a magic wand, I would ⁓ or an executive order, and this this makes me super popular and gets gets me some of my most favorite deaf threats, is I would eliminate public sector unions. Number one. That is how they derive most of their power. And I would then as if they take advice from me, but I would tell the Democrat Party, kick the DSA to the curb. Don't let them use you as a skin suit. Like we just went through this with a bunch of people, the the you know, Tucker Carlson, who I loved, are ⁓ is now like, well, I'm leaving the Republican Party. Bye bye. Don't let the door hit you in the behind on the way out. Because we conservatism is open to everyone except crazy bigots. So we took care of it when the John Birch Society was ascended after Goldwater, as as John Phillips was saying on his show today. Like, you have to have standards. I have Democrats back. Begging me to please mount a vigorous defense so that they can repel DSA. No, police your own house. Get your own house. speaker-0: We tried to tell you. We tried to tell you. Don't be welcoming these people into the into your party. Don't be going to parties with them. Don't be hanging out. We tried to tell y'all you called us a bunch of Nazis. You called us everything but a child of God. We tried to tell you. But here is the speaker-1: Alligator would eat them last. Ha ha speaker-0: We have to I'm writing an article right now. I'm in the middle of it. It'll publish this evening on my Substack. But it is about banning ⁓ well, it the article's about banning Islam. It's in response to what happened in New York City. But within the article I do talk about the idea of banning like ⁓ it doing a congressional an act of Congress and banning socialism and banning communism. To me, it seems absolutely abhorrent that you can elect a socialist or ⁓ an avowed social. It's one thing to have the notions, right? It's one thing that like, ⁓ he says he's a Democrat, but really he's a socialist. It's quite another to run as a socialist under a party called the Democrat Socialist of America, which is I I think we need to start talking about banning ideologies that are not compatible with our constitutional republic. speaker-1: You know this when you run for office, you go down to the registrar, you plunk down your signatures or your money, and you take an oath, which I got to take when I became naturalized as American citizen to protect and defend the United States Constitution. And the fact that they're just letting this slide because they were all excited, like the DSA, if you want endorsement from the DSA, you agree to co govern with them. That is completely unacceptable. Completely. And Nithya Raman will have to answer that. By the way, I'll bring it up. You said you think Karen Bass will pull it out. I don't know. She's, you know, there was a moment where I had to choose between Kevin DeLion, communist slash illegal alien, and and zombie Diane Feinstein, who was allegedly still alive but on the ballot. And I voted for Feinstein. I mean, you know, sometimes you have to make a choice because not making a choice is a choice. And then you end up out of the frying pan and into the fire. I am not looking forward to that choice. Whatever juice Spencer has on either of them, I'd like him to pull the pin on that grenade and roll it into the room sooner rather than later. But that's it's two bad choices. But I'm not sure that we'll get the least bad one. I'm sorry. speaker-0: No, listen, this is where we're at. And I have to say, I just gotta be real honest with people. And I've been talking pretty harshly for the last few months, but I just gotta be real honest with people. We I don't think we're in a position anymore where we can vote our way out of this. I don't think we are. And I know L you're the chairwoman of the LAGOP. I know what your position is, and I know what you that you know that you are here to encourage the voters. This is Kira Davis, host of Orange Report. saying, folks, I think we're in deep trouble. I think we're in deep, deep trouble. And we need to could start considering some other options to protect this republic because we have now gotten to a point where the enemy is behind the gates. But speaker-1: Yeah, what are the options? Do you cut off California and New York or speaker-0: That's what I want to talk about. I do want to have these conversations. They need to be ha spoken out loud. I don't have by the way, I d I'm not saying I have the answers. I don't have the answers. I know, sorry, Roxanne. I just have a bunch of questions. But like, you know, is it is it something where the feds are gonna have to like do a state takeover? I don't even know how constitutionally that works. How it is it case where we do have to kick California or New York out of the union? I don't think those are viable options either. speaker-1: To me. speaker-0: But is it a case where those citizens have to take up arms and ri and rise up against our own government? Is it a situation where we have to ban ideologies like Islam, like socialism, like communism, where we have to codify those things? So, you know, again, I'm not I don't have any answers. I don't. What I want is to talk to somebody about these things. So but we're at critical mass here. I just don't think anybody I don't think people are scared enough. I really don't. They speaker-1: Don't try and and they think that they can keep moving, like, ⁓ I'll just move to Orange County or I'll move to to Texas or I'll move ⁓ Like people don't understand. Let's take a typical family, like, ⁓ my God, I can't take it anymore. My kids are young. I understand that. So I'm gonna move to Pocatella, Idaho, wherever. Well, guess what? Your kids are gonna go to public school in this new little idyllic ⁓ place that you have found, and the textbooks that they use will be California compliant. And they will have lots of horse patootie about equity and George Washington was gay or Reagan was gay or Lincoln was gay, everybody's gay, whatever it is, and you'll have to have, you know, the Muslim call for prayer five days a week, whatever, because it started in California and it and like, you know, talk about a hot zone, it's coming for the rest of you. So here's one solution. And I found this when I was looking for something today that I called for, you know, two, three years ago before I was ever thinking of being chair. Well, I'd thought of it once and then I'd woken up out of my delusion, and I don't know how I ended up here. But If you're a patriot, if you're in the rest of America and you're wondering, like, is Kira right? Is it almost too late? And my mother said to me, I I said, How do you know when to flee? When you're asking the question, it's already too late, like the infection has spread. Move to California. Become a teacher. Become an out actor. Speak up. Naomi Wolf has a great article for everyone who lives behind the blue curtain, and I get the pressure. I've lost plenty, friends, money, career, whatever. Doesn't matter. Either you care for this country or you don't. So grow a pair and speak up. She wrote this article where she said, I'm not brave. You're just a P word. So if you if you have F you ⁓ what's the point of that if you never say F you? Put it in a place that matters. Rick Grinnell is here. We're here. OCGOP is here. Like speaker-0: Like Elon Musk. Right. speaker-1: We are doing the real work. It's it's math. We have to fix the math. Just like, you know, I've done my part by having four children. You you we're repopulating America that way. And by the way, I want everyone to think very carefully and look closely that the two people that are talking to you about this, and I don't like to traffic in identity politics, but neither of us are Caucasian. This is not a sort of white nationalist. This is a We love America and we damn sure love California. And I don't want to leave it and go back to living in a place with humidity and giant bugs. So move here, invade back those spaces. Colleges, yes, but high schools and elementary schools, people are being taught, little children are being taught that to not celebrate Thanksgiving. Like you don't know the crap that is coming down the pike. And COVID helped expose a lot of it because people could see their school their kids schooling online. But it is worse than your worst nightmare. And take it from someone who was eleven years old when I fled a country and saw and heard about family members and friends being raped and murdered so that people could take their silverware and the stuff that they didn't build. This shit's gonna get real. speaker-0: It's gonna get real. Yeah. And so that means I th I think that is a great admonition. ⁓ and I I say it all the time too. Like, you gotta get brave. You gotta get full. You gotta stop. I use the example of, you know, my own ⁓ family where I was like, Well, I'll I won't talk about my work because my work is politics and my family, my mom's liberal and it's concerned, and it makes everyone uncomfortable. So I'll just I won't. But then what that means is I can't tell them when something good happens in my career, you know, when I'm excited about something because it's politics. And what happened what did it get me? My mother went no contact with our whole family over Trump, with her only grandchildren over Trump. And and so I and the after that happened, what I said to myself is what did it get me? And that's the whole point of that story. Don't feel sorry for me. I'm just saying, what did it get me? Right. Well, this is what we need to ask. What is it getting me to be silent? I know a lot of y'all speaker-1: Been there. Gone then. speaker-0: Or, you know, you you even some Republicans they'll run for office. We've got a bunch of them here in Orange County, they'll run for office when they get there, it's so contentious, particularly in the post COVID age, that they stay quiet, they stay meet 'cause they have businesses and they don't want to endanger their businesses. They want to be good community members. And I just think that that's cowardly. We are no longer in that time. If you're not willing to stand out, stand up and be bold about what you believe, then what good are you? What usefulness do you have? By the way, you know speaker-1: It is that you know, that you can't turn yourself into a woman with if if you have XY chromosomes, ⁓ that you should not be robbed of your private property, whether by the state or by a Chilean tourist gang ⁓ that comes to rob you. Chadwick Moore said it was harder to come out as Republican to his gay friends than as gay to his Republican friends. speaker-0: That means we're Right. speaker-1: The closet can be kind of fun and we can have little speakeasies, but guess what? The closet is where you get left in the dark. So think very carefully. If you are holding some part of yourself back, and by the way, you don't have to be nasty to people. How I started is all I said, this is what started my whole political career. I said at a school party. I don't know you guys. I don't think Bush is Hitler. I feel like just Hitler was Hitler. Now that Lost me some friends, but it gained me a lot more. So you have to be willing to have fun. By the way, have fun with it. Poke fun at them. Take things to the natural conclusion. When they're like, yes, I think that black people should have their own graduation school. I know the KKK agrees too. And you are down with like you cannot believe in white supremacy without first believing in black inferiority. Make them own the end goal of their of their thoughts. Make them follow those thoughts to their natural conclusion. It's not okay to let people die on the streets in their own filth. That's what housing first is. And by the way, one of the reasons one of the things that could have elevated Spencer Pratt beyond any margin of cheat was all the people who were behind him, so behind him, but ⁓ so quiet. I'll come out if you win. No, you dumbass MFR. Come out now. Because now you left him, you let him hang out to dry. Because if he could have said, I have this captain of industry and this captain of industry and this billionaire and this supporter and they're all standing with me, people feel, my God, there is safety in numbers. Just like Mark Stein said about, you know, what happened, was it fifteen years ago with the Muhammad cartoons? If every journalist who claims to be a resistor had Also printed the Hadik Mohammed cartoons Charlie Ed Beau employees would still be alive. speaker-0: So good. That's so true. And we yeah, I am done. I'm actually going to a ⁓ a teacher, ⁓ teachers' conference for Teachers Freedom Association, which is they do a lot of advocac advocacy work to help pull teachers out of the public unions. Rebecca ⁓ Ryan Walter is ⁓ one of their heads now. He left the superintendent job in Oklahoma. speaker-1: Rebecca Friedrich's speaker-0: And the panel that I'm sitting on is about, you know, why you should leave the union. And one of the things when I was running for school board, you know, you were my one of my mentors, Roxanne, when I was running for school board, I would talk to teachers and they would say, ⁓ I want you to win because the union is crazy. I wish I didn't have to be a part of the union, but you know, it's just so crazy. I can't I can't say anything. And I'm my whole I was nice then, but now, years later, I can no longer be nice about it. And I just think that's cowardly. They say whatever they want at your union meetings. They say whatever they want on school property. They put whatever signs they want in their cars. They do all the things they tell you you're not supposed to do. And you're sitting there like a coward and I'm supposed to be grateful for you teaching my kids. I don't want that anymore. I don't, I don't care if you like Trump and you're a Republican. I you're a loser if you're not willing to stand up for what the values are. what American values are and what our kids need in the classroom, then you're not one of us. And if you don't have the stones to stand up on behalf of our children, then I don't care if you voted for Trump. You're part of the problem. You don't have to be in the union. Don't tell me, don't tell me that it'll cure the union so bad and they'll make trouble for you. I don't care. Guess who's under duress? Guess who they're making trouble for now? Your kids. My kids. So Don't be worrying about what trouble you get. What kind of coward are you? What kind of American are you? This is about the kids. Stand up and say something or shut up. Don't come to me and tell me I think like you care. I just can't say anything. You know what? That doesn't fly anymore. That's not a flex anymore. And I don't look kindly on you anymore when you say that kind of stuff. To me, when you say that stuff, you're part of the problem. Rant over, Rockman. speaker-1: Hundred percent. It does no one any good for us to have our own little quiet I call it like a me too, 'cause when I started speaking up, people'd be like, I'm with you, me too. Shh sh sh what so I'm taking the arrows? Like I'm willing to do it. Right. I've been willing to do it. And it there's real costs associated with it, but you could step up a little bit. Like the original founders of this country pledged their lives, their treasure, and their sacred honor, and they frickin' died. We're not asking you to die. We're asking you to maybe say on Facebook That it's stupid to you know, tell children that the planet is gonna is gonna collapse in two years. speaker-0: You're right. That it's stupid to tell boys that they can be girls if they put on a dress. Yeah. Yeah. It's really not complicated. But yeah. I thank you. Thank you. That ⁓ I'm I'm just feeling real salty these days. What let me ask you real quick about the executive order President Trump signed about mail in ballots and the USPS. USPS Postmaster General has come out and he has said USPS will not deliver mail in ballots. speaker-1: Not at all. Love your rant. speaker-0: to people or from people in states that do not comply with the election law executive order that President Trump signed that'll be going into effect for November elections. What are your thoughts on how that might affect California? speaker-1: A Trinidadian judge is about to issue an injunction in five, four, three, two. Oops. It's it's a nice concept. And I would love it if we could be rescue. But this is my pitch to everyone. Like, stop looking to the president to save us. He certainly is like a battle scarred, you know, a bull elephant doing what he can. W you and I both know how slippery these people are. If he passes an executive order, That has to do with, you know, because it's a it's affecting federal elections. That's gonna be his pitch, right? That's what I can say. They will find a way to say, okay, we're gonna separate elections. They just in LA they're putting on the ballot that non-citizens should get to vote. How does that work logistically? And I immediately put out a statement and I was like, I'm an immigrant, that's a dumbass idea. They will they will find ways, much like sewage water can seep through the cracks in your foundation. They will figure out a way. Now, am I grateful for it? Would that be awesome? Yes, because we don't have COVID anymore. You should have to request an absentee ballot. People in other states don't understand what a crazy electoral system we have. Ballots mailed to everyone by the way, it has not it has not increased voter turnout. speaker-0: Show up. speaker-1: Like it doesn't if if you if you said, well, we've mailed ballots to everybody and now we have like 80% voter participation. Right. And it turns out, by the way, a lot of people like it. Okay, so go apply to get a permanent absentee ballot. You can do that. That's how it used to work. You apply for permanent absentee ballot status. But we cannot have this system that we have. So I applaud that. I I would welcome that. I would welcome anything that gives you more confidence. It's not even it's, you know, the appearance of impropriety is bad. By the way, you didn't have this in in Orange County. We got a notice by postcard when ballots dropped that there's gonna be a ballot coming soon for people in the city of LA where I live that we're gonna give you a surcharge because there's all these copper wire thieves because they won't enforce the law. And it's gonna be about a surcharge for copper wire theft and only homeowners will get it and that's the only way to vote. I never saw a ballot. My husband and I we never got a ballot. Did it pass? What happened? I don't know. Like they just announced an election was coming and then and then they're gonna one day we're gonna get a bill. That's how they're gonna be able to do it. And there are people who've said, ⁓ you know what, I think I think maybe even Spencer said that we should be able to do it on phone. No. In Jamaica, you dip your thumb into Delap. speaker-0: That's how we should do it. That's how we should do it. And there is no there yeah, the way we do it now is absol again, I just keep going back to my question, which is like, okay, if they're gonna find a workaround for everything, then at what point do we no longer qualify as a free American state? I really I genuinely think that we are not talking enough about that question. I again I don't expect you as the head of the of the county GOP to have an opinion on that or to express an opinion on that. But I You know, for me on my show, I'm asking a question. I want speaker-1: Like in in terms of timeliness, 'cause I'm a very practical person, for me, step one is let's get Steve Hilton in his fighter jet to tilt this way and go through that box canyon and get a million votes out of LA by sending his resource to let's try that first. speaker-0: Let's try that first. I'm for that. Let's try that first, California. Let's try that first. I agree with speaker-1: Because it hasn't been tried. Nobody has tried to turn out the vote in LA County in any significant way for a couple decades. So instead of rolling over, let's try fighting back. speaker-0: We have to. That's really the only option or the 'cause the other options are not very tasteful. Okay. ⁓ Broxane, I've gotta let you go. We've gotta end the program for today. But before I let you go, tell people where they can find out more about you and where they can donate to the Los Angeles County Republican Party. speaker-1: We are found at L A G O P dot O-R-G. And we're L A G O P dot org because Louisiana is a state and they took dot com first. And so sometimes people have given money to them instead of us. And I have to don't do that. Don't do that. Because Louisiana is fine. We got, we got ⁓ we got Senator John Kennedy, we got the fine. So L-A-G-O P.org on Twitter where I live, I'm Roxanne Hogue, H O G E at Roxanne Hogue. I don't do Instagram. I don't do Facebook because I don't really like finding out that all my family members and friends hate my politics. So I just engage on Twitter. But the Los Angeles County Republican Party at our website has links to all our social media and they would love to it we would love to engage with you there. speaker-0: All right. Thank you so much, Roxanne. Thank you for all of the hard work you're doing there in Los Angeles County. And we'll see how things shake out in November. I'm sure we'll be seeing each other and talking to each other much more before then. I want to thank everybody for tuning into the show today. Don't forget we are live Monday through Wednesday. Thursday's an off day. And then Friday we do our weekend shows, which is really California and Orange County based. And that's for the magazine show crowd, the people who like the more traditional format of the 60 minutes. format without all the snobbery, ⁓ if you will. So go ahead and just follow us everywhere. But honestly, the best thing you can do is just follow me, Kira Davis on X and I post everything over there. Find me on Instagram. Hey everybody, we're all in this together. Like the the threat is at the door. So everyone needs to step up. Don't forget sunlight is the best disinfectant. So go out there and shine a light. We will catch you next time on the Orange Report.