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Ep. 789: A Bad Road, Rutty Bucks and Cookbooks | MeatEater Radio Live! · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us Now, lady, welcome to Meat Eater Trivia Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. I'm your host Brody
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  Speaker 2: Henderson joining me today. We've got Yannis Betelus and Maggie Huddler.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, morning, Happy.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's eleven am, Thursday, November six here at the
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  Speaker 2: Meat Eater World headquarters in Bozeman. But no matter what
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  Speaker 2: time zone you're in, you should probably be out hunting
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, instead of listening to that stupid show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, if you are listening to this
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  Speaker 2: here podcast, it should be from the standard a glassing
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  Speaker 2: now because this is a week the rut kicks into
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  Speaker 2: high gear for white tails and the mule deer bucks
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  Speaker 2: are also starting to get pretty frisky, I hear. So,
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  Speaker 2: whether you're doing in all days, sit, you're stuck at work,
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: or you're already tagged out, we've got a great show
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  Speaker 2: for you today. We have an interview with a couple
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  Speaker 2: of folks from the Wilderness Society up in Alaska regarding
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  Speaker 2: the recent federal approval for building the controversial Ambler Road.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't know what that is, well we'll fill
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  Speaker 2: you in. We're also going to be checking in for
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  Speaker 2: a rut report from a few of our crew members
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  Speaker 2: who are out hunting right now. Me and my charming
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  Speaker 2: Hope co hosts are gonna be competing in our own
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  Speaker 2: hot tip off segment for What's You. The live chat
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  Speaker 2: audience is going to decide the winner, and we're also
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  Speaker 2: going to share some recent hunt stories. Rather than some
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  Speaker 2: you know, weird segment that Spencer would do, We're just
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk hunting and finally we're gonna try something new.
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  Speaker 2: I hope it works out. It involve the folks in
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  Speaker 2: the live chat, and it evolves those one of those
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  Speaker 2: folks getting the sweet Prize to celebrate the release of
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  Speaker 2: our brands banking new Meat Eater cookbook box set Right there?
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  Speaker 2: Can you see that philm to two cookbook box set
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  Speaker 2: that releases next Tuesday, November eleventh, which is also Veterans Day.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna give away a copy of that thing that's
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  Speaker 2: signed by Steve. All you guys have to do while
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  Speaker 2: we're doing the show live is you got to write
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  Speaker 2: a comment in there in the chat and it has
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  Speaker 2: to be the most convincing reason why you and you
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  Speaker 2: alone should deserve to be the winner. Phil's going to
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  Speaker 2: weed through those as we go. He's gonna pick out
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  Speaker 2: a few of the best ones, and at the very
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  Speaker 2: end of the show will vote and decide who gets
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  Speaker 2: a copy of this cookbooks.
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  Speaker 1: Who came up with this game? That's what I did.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like it, well, I just don't really understand.
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  Speaker 1: Are you expecting to be entertained by by their comment?
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  Speaker 2: I want to be.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want genuine heart wrenching stories about why they just.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, something like that too. It might work,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, we just want to get people involved in
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  Speaker 2: having fun.
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  Speaker 1: All right, You guys better be entertaining.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they already are. We probably already
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  Speaker 2: have our winner already.
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  Speaker 3: There was there's been a chat discourse happening here. I
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  Speaker 3: mean an hour before the show even. Still, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 3: people in here talking away.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to sweeten the pot too. If you make
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  Speaker 2: a really strong case for why you deserve the cookbook,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna get the old Trucks calendar that's also signed
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  Speaker 2: by the crew. So there you go, little little extra
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  Speaker 2: something fancy. Be honest, Maggie, before we get get really going,
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  Speaker 2: what have you guys been up to and what are
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  Speaker 2: your plans for the November rut.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just really here for the report since I
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  Speaker 1: leave for Wisconsin tomorrow, and uh, as long as I
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  Speaker 1: can get these rut reports in, then I know what
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  Speaker 1: to expect.
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  Speaker 2: I think we have a Wisconsin reut report coming in,
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  Speaker 2: don't we? M M, we do?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't think we're gonna play
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  Speaker 1: Mark's reut report. But I got a picture this morning
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  Speaker 1: from Mark and he put down a bruiser.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right, little teaser, Maggie.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Admittedly I don't have deer hunting plans. I got
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  Speaker 4: a freezer full of elk meat right now.
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  Speaker 2: But my got your meat.
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  Speaker 4: My bird dog, Bill has been real bummed when we've
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  Speaker 4: been leaving every morning to go elk hunting without him.
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  Speaker 4: So the gears are shifting and we're gonna go try
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  Speaker 4: and shoot some birds now, So what do you saying?
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  Speaker 2: Birds? What kind of birds? Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Ducks around where we live.
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  Speaker 4: And then we're gonna venture to the other side of
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  Speaker 4: the mountain and start dabbling in some upland hunting, which
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  Speaker 4: h's some some new grounds for me.
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  Speaker 2: So bring that dog up here to hunt pheasants. It's
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  Speaker 2: like a banner pheasant year around here.
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  Speaker 5: Really, yes, I will.
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  Speaker 2: And I saw it in the other day, mule deer
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  Speaker 2: and antelope, and I must have seen I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: a couple hundred sharp tails like they were just everywhere
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  Speaker 2: man where I was. So I'll tell you where they
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  Speaker 2: were if you don't tell anyone.
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  Speaker 5: Else, I know how to keep my mouth shut.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 2: On Saturday, I had I had a good lesson, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like a lesson that everyone needs to get now.
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  Speaker 2: And then I found I killed an antelope Saturday. Sunday
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  Speaker 2: found a like for Montana, a very very nice buck,
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted him really really bad. But it was
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  Speaker 2: windy and it was like I had a sprint to
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  Speaker 2: get into position, and I think I made the right
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  Speaker 2: choice not to shoot, And I think you need a
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  Speaker 2: reminder like that now. And then like I wanted that
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  Speaker 2: thing bad and I was a millisecond from squeezing the
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  Speaker 2: trigger and held off.
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  Speaker 1: Well, tell us just because it was windy, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Rushed, like I had to sprint, I was breathing hard.
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  Speaker 2: It was a small window to shoot through that comminate windy.
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  Speaker 5: Just wasn't right.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't right.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't big enough for that kind of a shot.
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  Speaker 2: No, he was too big to make that kind of shot.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying, I'm guessing he was like a solid
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  Speaker 1: one sixties maybe even a one seventy tight buck something
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  Speaker 1: like that. If he was a two hundred incher, you
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  Speaker 1: don't think the lad would have been flying.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't have shot.
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  Speaker 1: Because I was telling my kids last night actually at
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  Speaker 1: the dinner table, that personal ethics usually tend to as
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  Speaker 1: the buck gets bigger, the ethics sort of slide down down.
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  Speaker 2: But I was like, I've been talking to my kids lately,
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  Speaker 2: like about there's just no reason to do that shoot
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  Speaker 2: and see what happens. Thing like if you want, like
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  Speaker 2: you shouldn't want something that bad, like you need to
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  Speaker 2: be like not that you would say I don't care
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  Speaker 2: if I get that thing or not, but you need
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  Speaker 2: to say, like, you know, it's okay if I don't
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  Speaker 2: get that thing, and I think people need that reminder
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  Speaker 2: now and then I respect anyway you look, you look
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  Speaker 2: like you're doubting me.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, No, I'm not not at all. It's just I
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  Speaker 1: like struggle with this, uh, the whole uh, the theory
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  Speaker 1: of the conversation around it, because I know, if like
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  Speaker 1: if it was like a one fifty and I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, I don't really need that buck,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'd be like, yeah, you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: too windy.
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  Speaker 2: I we don't ever really need any buck.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know. But when they get huge, yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: it's it's like a drug. Well that's what I make
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  Speaker 1: people do, stupid shit, That's what it was. Two dure.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, well, if I can just get
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  Speaker 1: one in him, then I can probably get two more
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  Speaker 1: in him later. Okay, I'm just saying there's a different
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  Speaker 1: way to think about it. I mean, I'm happy for
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  Speaker 1: you that you you know, you had that experience and
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  Speaker 1: you made that decision. But you know, it's such a
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  Speaker 1: personal thing.
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  Speaker 2: It is it is. You know, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: I'm heading to Colorado, like today, two hundred inch pops out.
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  Speaker 2: I might be shooting over the horizon.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. You'll be like, eight hundred never tried it,
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  Speaker 1: but this buck is worth it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, moving on to the guts of the show.
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  Speaker 2: As always, there are a lot of important public lands
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  Speaker 2: issues going on right now. One you gotta know about
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  Speaker 2: is this is the last few days of a public
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  Speaker 2: comment period where you can weigh in on the plan
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  Speaker 2: to there's a plan out there from the federal government
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  Speaker 2: to rescind the what's called the BLM public Lands Rule,
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  Speaker 2: which essentially prioritizes managing BLM lands like multi use, but
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  Speaker 2: prioritizes wildlife conservation. The plan would throw that out the window.
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  Speaker 2: That are rescinding the plan would throw that out the window.
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  Speaker 2: So you can go to Regulations dot gov and leave
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  Speaker 2: a comment supporting just leaving the public Lands Rule as is.
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  Speaker 2: Go on there and do that. I think you've got
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  Speaker 2: what'd you say, Maggie till November tenth?
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  Speaker 5: November tenth, I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Only a few more days, So go do that. The
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  Speaker 2: public lands issue we're actually going to talk about today
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  Speaker 2: is the Ambler Road, And if you're not familiar, the
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  Speaker 2: Ambler Road is will be a two hundred and ten
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  Speaker 2: mile long east to west route from the Dalton Highway,
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  Speaker 2: which runs north south almost all the way through Alaska.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that right? Honest? Yes, it runs east west from
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  Speaker 2: the Dalton Highway over to Ambler and it's gonna cut
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  Speaker 2: directly through this like massive, pristine roadless wilderness of the
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  Speaker 2: Brooks Range to uh to Ambler. The Trump administration recently
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  Speaker 2: it had been it had been nixed. The Trump administration
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  Speaker 2: recently reversed that approved construction of the road despite series
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  Speaker 2: concerns about destructive impacts of fish and wildlife habitat, including
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  Speaker 2: a major caribou migration corridor. Now there's there's proponents of this,
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  Speaker 2: and there's people, and there's detractors. But what I would
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  Speaker 2: say is, like, Alaska is the last place in the
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  Speaker 2: United States that still has these like vast swaps of
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  Speaker 2: largely pristine tracts of roadless wilderness, and like that's what
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  Speaker 2: makes Alaska special, and it's the only way it's going
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  Speaker 2: to stay special. Those in favor of the road are
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  Speaker 2: site job creations and other economic benefits for local communities.
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  Speaker 2: But you got to keep in mind that the road
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  Speaker 2: is being built almost exclusively for foreign mining interests, which
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  Speaker 2: are Trilogy Medals of Canada and South thirty two of Australia.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's going to be some local jobs that
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  Speaker 2: are going to get created, but the bulk of the
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  Speaker 2: financial kind of winnings are going to go to foreign
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  Speaker 2: mining companies. So we're going to dig into that today.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Tim Fullman from the Wilderness Society.
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  Speaker 2: He's their senior ecologist. We're also going to talk to
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  Speaker 2: Matt Jackson from the Wilderness Society, who's their senior manager,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to see what's going on and check
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  Speaker 2: out the potential impacts with those guys.
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  Speaker 1: So, guys, if I can add Redy too, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to hear more from someone that's opposed to the
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  Speaker 1: Ambler Road. Did a great podcast with author Seth Cantoner
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  Speaker 1: probably a year ago. He wrote a book called A
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  Speaker 1: Thousand Trails Home, Living with Caribou, but basically where he lives.
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  Speaker 1: Uh would be greatly impacted by this road right at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the road. Yeah, and his his caribou
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  Speaker 1: that h that he hunts, and that the villages all
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  Speaker 1: around there hunt would be impacted by this road. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure if you just searched Seth canton or meet
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  Speaker 1: your podcast, you'd find the episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, you got those guys in there. Yep there. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for coming, guys. We appreciate you talking to us
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  Speaker 2: today and informing the audience a little more on the
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  Speaker 2: Ambler Road. Matt, I want to talk to you first.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like this this is a situation to at
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  Speaker 2: least to me that in many ways mirrors the Pebble
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  Speaker 2: Mind situation that was going on a little while ago
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  Speaker 2: down in Bristol Bay. You know, it's really controversial. It
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  Speaker 2: involves like really good wildlife habitat also fish habitat. So
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  Speaker 2: why don't you talk about the wilderness societies number one,
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  Speaker 2: what you guys do holistically, and your role in the
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  Speaker 2: Ambler Road situation, and then after that, after that we'll
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  Speaker 2: get in and like more of a feel for who
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  Speaker 2: in Alaska is for and against. But let's hit the
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  Speaker 2: big stuff first.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks so much for having us on Mine's Matt.
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  Speaker 6: I'm born and raised Alaskan and the Wilderness Society nationally,
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  Speaker 6: we help write the Wilderness Act. We advocate for public lands,
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  Speaker 6: fish and wildlife habitat, and so we're working on this
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  Speaker 6: issue of the Amble Road in Alaska because of its
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  Speaker 6: impact not just the federal public lands, national public lands,
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  Speaker 6: but this huge swath of the Brooks Range the proposed
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  Speaker 6: road wood cut through gates the Arctic National Park can
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  Speaker 6: preserve also public lands right around the Dalton Highway corridor
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  Speaker 6: that you mentioned, and the parallels you drop with the
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  Speaker 6: Pebble Mine are really accurate. You know, what we've got
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  Speaker 6: here is we're looking at the short term profits of
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  Speaker 6: foreign mining companies versus the long term well being of
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  Speaker 6: public lands of wildlife and most importantly the communities that
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  Speaker 6: rely on them for their way life. And so that's
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  Speaker 6: how the Wilderness Society started to get involved in the
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  Speaker 6: Ambler Road is through listening the local communities and looking
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  Speaker 6: at the impacts that it would have on those public
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  Speaker 6: lands in the Brooks Range.
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  Speaker 2: So it's been kind of a roller coaster because not
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  Speaker 2: that long ago the road had been shut down and
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  Speaker 2: then just recently it's back on again. So that's like
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  Speaker 2: it's got to make your job harder, you know when
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  Speaker 2: things change. So and then the same thing with Pebble
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  Speaker 2: mind too, right, like it's up, it's down, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a little bit of a roller coaster.
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  Speaker 6: But what's been really consistent from within the state is
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  Speaker 6: actually the opposition. You know, we've been through multiple public
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  Speaker 6: comment periods where communities have gotten to speak up on this.
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  Speaker 6: You know, eighty eight tribes across the Yukon Quay, cuk
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  Speaker 6: and Obuck watersheds have opposed this project. So you know
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  Speaker 6: what the FEDS are doing is a roller coaster. But
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  Speaker 6: here in the state pretty level, we know what we
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  Speaker 6: want and we've said no to this road a bunch
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  Speaker 6: of times. So I just try to focus on that
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  Speaker 6: local perspective to protect the land because that's been consistent.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get into some like nitty grity stuff
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  Speaker 2: for the road, like who's paying for the road?
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  Speaker 6: That's a question we don't know the answer to. The
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  Speaker 6: cost estimates for the road keep going up and down.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's upwards of three hundred and fifty million
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  Speaker 6: to build dollars to build the road is the estimate
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  Speaker 6: right now, and nobody's a red who's going to pay
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  Speaker 6: for it. I think one thing that's really important for
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  Speaker 6: folks to know is this is not a public road.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's not a US highway. It's going to
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  Speaker 6: be a private mining road for industrial scale mine trucks
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  Speaker 6: calling or back and forth. When you have trucks like
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  Speaker 6: that driving there, what's called fugitive dust mindtailings escape from
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  Speaker 6: the trucks, and so there's kind of some rough drafts
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  Speaker 6: to have it be a tool road and the mine
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  Speaker 6: company will pay the toll, but nobody knows who's going
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  Speaker 6: to pay to build it.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any chance like American tax payers end up
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  Speaker 2: on the hook for some of the costs.
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  Speaker 6: We're certainly going to be on the hook to clean
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  Speaker 6: up the mess afterwards. That's how it worked, but it's
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  Speaker 6: not sure who's going to be on the hook to
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  Speaker 6: build it.
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  Speaker 2: A risk is there is there a timeline for construction
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  Speaker 2: or or is it too early?
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  Speaker 6: You know, some of the boosters, these foreign mining companies,
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  Speaker 6: they say they want to start as soon as next spring.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I think that's un realistic financially and you know,
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  Speaker 6: legally for them, right, that's what they're trying to do
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  Speaker 6: is start construction in the spring.
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  Speaker 2: Normally, when something, you know, a road like this gets built,
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  Speaker 2: there has to be all these like assessments done beforehand,
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  Speaker 2: like impact stuggs and things like that. Has that work
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  Speaker 2: already been done or is it going to be done or.
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  Speaker 7: Well yes and no.
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  Speaker 6: You mentioned roar Coaster, all of the Federal roller coaster.
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  Speaker 6: All of that work was done, and in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 6: four the Bureau of Land Management set in a record
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  Speaker 6: of decision that based on all that work and permitting,
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  Speaker 6: there's no way you can build this road legally because
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  Speaker 6: it would impact wildlife, it would impact subsistence habitat or
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  Speaker 6: subsistence communities, it would impact water quality, you know, all
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  Speaker 6: these issues with it. And so that's why the government
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  Speaker 6: said no in twenty twenty four. What the administration did
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  Speaker 6: at the beginning of the Ober is by proclamation, they're
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  Speaker 6: just trying to say that none of that matters and
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  Speaker 6: to force the agencies to issue permits that contradict what
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  Speaker 6: they decided in twenty twenty four. And so that's what
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  Speaker 6: we're seeing happen right now, is that by proclamation they're
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  Speaker 6: trying to say none of that science that happened in
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  Speaker 6: twenty twenty four matters anymore. Just bulldoze the thing anyways.
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  Speaker 6: And that's what the Wilderness Society and are more importantly
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  Speaker 6: the frontline communities here in Alaska are trying to stop.
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  Speaker 1: Right now.
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  Speaker 2: What what are you guys working with a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: other conservation groups to fight this.
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  Speaker 6: We are, there's a big coalition. You know, I mentioned
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  Speaker 6: those eighty eight tribes. Yeah, and so you know Tannona
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  Speaker 6: Chiefs Conference is a consortium of tribes in kind of
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  Speaker 6: the central interior region of Alaska, and we work with them.
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  Speaker 6: National Parks Conservation Association also deserves a shout out. What
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: they do is in their name National Parks Conservation, and
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  Speaker 6: they've been a leader on this for a while because
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: of the impacts to kates of the Arctic National Park.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: It's definitely a team effort. But really the stars of
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: the show, and I tried to bring some of them
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: on today but they weren't able to make it are
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: the tribal members from the region who from the beginning
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: have said this is not going to work for our
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: way of life.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Great, I had a question, bro, where does the where
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: does Alaska's governor stand on this?
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Our current governor has spoken in favor of the project.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: You know, I don't want to speak for him, but
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: he tends to be pro resource extraction.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Which isn't I mean, resource extraction itself isn't necessarily bad
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: if it's done in the right way. But you know this,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: this doesn't sound like the right way, Tim, I want
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I want to move on to you. The Ambler Road,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned earlier, is going to bisect kind of
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the core range of the western Arctic caribou herd and
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: go right through their migration path. It's also critical habitat
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: for doll, sheep, moose, boreal birds, salmon, et cetera. But
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: if you could, let's let's start with that, that caribou herd,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: because it's already, as far as I know, kind of
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: in a in a downturn. So just give us a
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: brief history of that herd and how they're doing right now,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and then Crystal ball at what could happen, you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: if the road goes.
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: Through Sure, yeah, I mean, I guess zooming out even
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: a tiny bit more caribou and reindeer as they're called
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: over in Europe and Asia, all the same species across
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: the globe. We're seeing declines in many populations. It's true
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: across a lot of Canada, and it's true here in Alaska.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: So when I moved here eleven and a half years ago,
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: there were more caribou than people in the state of Alaska,
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: and that isn't true anymore. And the Western Occurred is
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: a prime example of that. It used to be the
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: largest herd in the state, with nearly half a million
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: animals as of the early two thousands, but over the
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: last two decades it showed a nearly seventy percent decline
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: in numbers.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: Now, as you mentioned.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: The proposed area in which the road would go would
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: cut through migration and winter habitat other important areas that
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: are used by the herd, and the concern there is
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: that caribou are an animal that needs to be able
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: to use big, intact areas. They live in a really
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: variable environment. There's lots of changes from seas to season,
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: and caribou need to be able to be free to
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: roam across their habitat to access the different resources they
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: need at different times of the year. And yet studies
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: have shown that caribou also are sensitive to development, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: we see altered moved behavior at certain sensitive times of
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: the year, like having post caving. They displace away from
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: roads and activity, and so there's a concern about, at
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: a time when the herd already is in decline, what
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: the impact of adding on extra stressors might be for
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: the caraban.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Can you give us some other more specific
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: examples of potential impacts on wildlife but also on local
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: subsistence communities?
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Sure?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: So earlier this year we published a study looking at
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: the winstern art occurred and looking at how they responded
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: to roads, and we found that it wasn't every caribou
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: every time, but over time, impacts on the herd accumulate,
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: and it's much more than you might expect just based
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: on the footprint of roads. And so we saw that
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: caribou were being affected throughout the year with altered movement.
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: They might delay their movements near a road, spending more
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: time near the road than otherwise expected. They might not
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: even be able to cross all they approach around then
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: they'd bounce back away and they can't make it past
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: those roads. Other kinds of things like that. And then
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: you mentioned the impact for the people who rely on caribou.
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: There are concerns about the ability to access caribou herds
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: to be able to carry on the traditional subsistence way
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: of life that people have been practicing here for thousands
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: and thousands of years who rely on cariboo. And so
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: there's real interest among groups like the Western Arctic Caribou
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: Herd Working Group that I'm a part of, which brings
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: together some sistence hunters from the range of the herd,
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: hunting guides and transporters, and myself representing conservationists to try
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: to come up with ways to encourage conservation of the
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: herd and its habitat so that it can stay around
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: to sustain future generations.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Has the Western Arctic curred? Is that is it already
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: in a situation where quote us for the number of
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: animals that are allowed to be taken, have I have already
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: been reduced before? Like before the road.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: It was I believe it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: Was just about a year ago that because of the
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: ongoing decline in the herd, the bag limit, the hardest
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: level for residents, was dropped. They've also put in restrictions
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: for out of state hunters and what they're able to
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: access from the herd because of the decline.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: And so that's exactly.
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: Why, you know, with all these things going on, there's
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: a question of does it make sense to add additional
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: pressures to the herd?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys got anything?
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Isn't this also going to have a huge impact
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: on fish? I mean there should be like I think
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: in the thousands of creek crossings having to build culverts
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: with this road, things like Dolly Varden sheep fish being impacted,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: mind tailings. I mean, it's kind of expansive how much
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: the impacts go.
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: We definitely are hearing concerns about the impacts to fish
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: from people out on the land and in the community's
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: nearest to where the road is proposed. And you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: we have an aquatic ecologist who works with us here
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: at the Wilderness Society, and yeah, he's much better able
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: to speak to some of the details of that. But yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: there's concerns about what the impacts of putting in a road,
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: putting in the culverts, all those things might do to
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: fish and to fishing opportunities.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: If you if you guys don't mind.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: Right, it was four thousand culverts, Yeah, would be required
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: to build this road.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: If you guys don't mind, send us his contact info
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: because we might want to talk to him about that more.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: All right, we kind of got to wrap things up
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and move on, guys, But before we go, is there
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: any hope of a reversal like in the courts? And
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: is there anything people can do to fight it right now?
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: There's always, especially when there's so much unity around protecting
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: this landscape within the state, within the communities that live there. Unfortunately,
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: kind of by design, there's not a lot of public engagement.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: There's you know, there's not a comment period, there's not
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: a chance for people to speak up at this moment.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: But the Wilderness Society and our friends here in Alaska.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: We're working to create that opportunity to make sure we
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: have public comments or a chance to speak up. So
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: what I can tell folks right now is to just
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: follow the Wilderness Society on social media, sign up for
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: email updates, and also to defend the Brooks Range group.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: As you asked earlier, if we were working with lots
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: of other groups in Alaska. That group of is called
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Defend the Brooks Range and they're also on social media,
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: and you know, the Wilderness Society we work on a
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: bunch of things. If you follow Defend the Brooks Range,
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: you're going to get content on the Brooks Range, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: learn more about the people that live there, the kind
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: of wildlife that's there, and how to stay involved.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just just look at Pebble minus as an
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: example like that was a big win, so hopefully we
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: get one here too. Well, thanks a lot, guys. I'm
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: sure you're busy, so we'll let you go.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys, thank you.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, you guys, got anything to say about that?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: It just it makes me sick, you know, to think that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But you know, the whole thing is people are always like, well,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: we need to we need more energy here, well than
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: even energy. This is sure just mindy. But you know
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: when they talk about doing more uh you know resource
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: extraction on the north side of the Brooks Range in
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the uh in the in the park there. Yeah, right, yeah,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's like most of our resources now are exported. Sure,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: people don't understand that, Like we have plenty we export it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: We don't. We're not always buying oil from some other
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: place to to you know, make our cars go. We
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: have plenty of it. We don't need to pump more
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: out of it. Like it's a reserve for a reason.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Let's keep it there until we really need it, you know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: for when it's like dire in this.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Case, like it's foreign mining companies, like it's it's.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Crazy, well, and there's this frantic need like we have
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: to do this now. We need to get these industries
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: going now. And when there's this push to get things
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: done so fast, you know, environmental protections aren't taken into consideration.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Things are just they're jumping through hoops.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: And it it's you know, it's really a like reversal
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: in time of like we've seen the damage that mines
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: can do, yet we're so willing to just go right
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: back to this cause all this environmental damage without a
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: second look, just for you know, make the rich richer.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt there'll be a few Alaskans that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: have some jobs there for a few years, you know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and it could be twenty years of jobs. But like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the real winners are not going to be Americans.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Nope, No, And and think about how much time they
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: would have to be spending cleaning up mine tailings, cleaning
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: up the water, cleaning up the land.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: The thing is is like like you can't like never
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: truly clean that stuff.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: No, it's there, it's it becomes part of the land.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: And it's when you have a place like Alaska. It's
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: just such a shame that some people are so willing
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: to sacrifice that for the sake of the dollar.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yep, let's move on to something fun.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: That's right, let's get this. Let's get this thing that
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: our smiles turned around.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yep, we got an in house hot tip off contest.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: We're going to do so you gotta fall along and
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: place your vote in the chat. Make it real easy
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: for Phil to figure out who the winner is.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to start a poll here as
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: soon as the tip offs end.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Before we get into it. If you've got a hot
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: tip off that's so hot, it has to be shared
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: with us because we do fan hot tip offs. Also,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: send it to I think it's radio live at the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: meat eater dot com. I think it might just be radio.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I might be radio.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I'm a horrible engineer of the show. But maybe the
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: producer Jacob Pipe or.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Send it to like info at the meat Eater. Someone
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: will get it at.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: The medeater dot com.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, send it to Jannas at the meadeater dot com.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: DM it to Maggie on Instagram. Yeah, someone will get it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, send us those we like. We like
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: doing those from the from the fans too, Phil, you
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: ready to see him up? Or Yeah, we've got some.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: We've got video tips from Brody and Janie and then
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Maggie is going to do an in house hot tip off.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I thought that's a students, so that's what I rolled with.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: No, Brody said I couldn't do it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't say it couldn't.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Well, anyways, depends.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: On like I couldn't have done mine that way.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's watch the tips. Welcome to another
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: hot tip off. Tell us here. Here's my hot tip.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: During the year, prepare for hunting season by making.
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: Large amounts of things like chili, elk stew, breakfast sausage,
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: meat balls, cook meat.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: For barbecue sandwiches from a deer neck.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Bear beeria.
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: Here's enough for three meals.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I want some.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: More slow cooked meat, more breakfast sausage. If you do
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: this and every time you have dinner, you just make
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: a little extra and vacuum seal it, put it in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: your freezer, then it's time for hunting season. You just
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: throw all that stuff into the cooler, go to camp,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and dinners are pretty much done. All you gotta do
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: is reheat it, hit the grocery store, buy tortillas, some buns,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: whatever you need. Makes life super easy and you get
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to continue to be living the meat eater lifestyle and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: eating game while you're hunting game for next year. So
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: there you go. Beat that hot tip off. Maggie and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Brodie hang aggressive. Note to future Yanni from past Yanni
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: shoot straight this week, Okay, aim for the top of
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the heart.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, thanks, ming at you with a hot tip
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: from antalyp season here in Montana. My son just got
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: this buck like an hour ago, and we're ready to
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: take the head off of it. For years and years
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: when I was taking the head off of buck or
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a bull, I would always come in from the top,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: like back behind the ears and through all that heavy
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: muscle and tendon that's down here. And I learned that
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: if you flip them over and come in from the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: throat down, it's just way easier, way faster. That you
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: come out right where you want, where the skull meets
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the spine, and slip your knife right between the skull
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and the spine, and it takes like less than half
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the time of coming in from the top to just
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: go down cut through the the esophagus there and follow
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: those jaw muscles that are jaw bone down right there,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and you get through that stuff and you're there like
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: it's right there and you'll find, oh, Kenny, execute that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: If you get get it right, you can just.
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: Cut kick it a little bit and you're right where
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: you're at and you're through just like that. Like it's
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: like fast, way faster than coming through all the heavy
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: muscle and tendon from the top.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So that's your hot tip.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: You know about your hot tip, Brody, If you're getting
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: lymph nodes for CWD.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: You've already made that first cut. You're already right there.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't do the whole like skin in the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: head and all that. When I take a skull or
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: take a head out. No, I'll leave all that stuff on.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: You do have to be careful though, cutting them that
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: close like that, because a lot some CWD test check
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: stations will be like, hey, you're a little tight. We
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: like to leave a little bit more neck on here.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Well, Wyoming, you just have to get the lymph nodes out.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Can you bring them in personally?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, all right, Maggie, let's let's hear yours.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, this.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Is this is kind of a lukewarm tip, but uh
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: it was extremely convenient this year.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Phil you got the picture up. Uh so processing my
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: elk this year.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Uh we just laid out butcher paper on my kitchen island,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: and uh we could label all the pots and everything
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: because we've got like a grind pile, a jerky pile
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: of dog pile. So when you're shipping Miller lights, you
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and you don't get them confused.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Actually that's a high life.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: And uh it just made clean up really easy because
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I don't have big enough cutting boards for a whole quarter,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: so you could just kind of flop whole muscle groups there.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Get ready to clean it up a little more. And uh,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: you know it's kind of a lame tip, but man,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: it made clean up the breeze this year.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: You're not cutting on the table though, right.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: No, I mean I've got it's just like a walnut
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: butcher block, so I could if I wanted to, but
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: trying not to.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Yah, patina it up that much.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: But I do the same thing but without the butcher paper.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, just spray and white.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Well. See that's the thing I can't really because it's
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: an untreated butcher block, so I don't have a way
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: to like really disinfect it that well.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Or it been like dish soap.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: You should just like rub a bunch of mineral oil
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: into that one.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Well, I keep doing it, but it's like not even
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: a year old, so.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: It does doesn't quite have like it's not quite there yet.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I don't want to seem like I'm bagging on your
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: hot tip off. I think it's great.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: It's a good tip.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah it was.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It does make clean up super easy.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: It made clean up real easy.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Brody's tip is good too, he told me about it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I forget when maybe on the youth hunt, and I've
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: used it on two different animals. Now you're going through
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the same stuff as you would go from coming in
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: from the top.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: It's just easier to bind.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's easier to find the gap that takes
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you there.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Something about coming in from the top where you're just
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: not lined up right a lot of the.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Time, or I don't know, but I just think that, yeah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the top, it just takes way more experience to like
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: hit the spot exactly right, because when I hit it
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: just right, I can do it that way fast too.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: And it's also like the way that the joints come together,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the skull and the spine coming to if you turn
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: it over and it's like they're coming apart, almost like
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you stretch that throat out, and it's it's, you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: like that. It's hard to explain, all right, I pull
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: his live everybody.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I'll give you another thirty seconds or so and then
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: we'll call it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I remember that conversation because that was when I was
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: up here last time for me to to roast you
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: guys were talking.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: About that we were stick those antlers in the ground
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: or whatever layser just right.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I like your tip too, Yannie, because I do that
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: all the time, just for my sanity, not even just
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: for hunting, Like I love having stuff ready to roll over.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: I'd like to just.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Roll that way all the time.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife would like it too.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: We use some of it throughout the year. But what
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: happens is the kids get overeaten something or you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: they're like do again. And so this worked out perfectly
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: because you know, I had to cook for myself for
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the next week and my dad and to have basically
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: seven or eight meals done, it's gonna make it easy.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Where'd you get that Burier recipe?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Probably New York Times. I'm guessing you're going to try that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Have you? Have you gotten into the little freezer mold things,
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: a little square.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Things they do for baby food.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know that they used to be like ice
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: cube trays, but you can freeze like stock and stuff
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: and like a square thing and then you just stick
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: them in a freezer bag.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Those are slick. That was going to be my other
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: hot tip option.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Now, no, where are we at with the voting?
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I will let you know right now. With twenty one
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: percent of the vote. In third place is Maggie Hudloaws.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: But we have the Maggie has a lot of supporters.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: In the chat thanks chat.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, someone said that they've been doing it Maggie's way
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: for the last few years. Game changer, That's what he said.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: But then the winner with forty four percent of the
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: vote is Brody Henderson.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you every much to try this weekend. When you
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: kill a great big buck. If you're not going to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: get it mounted, I'm just going to do a freedom ount. Well, Phil,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: let's uh do some like questions and comments.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Sure it is.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I have I've been book flagging, book barking all of
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: the cookbook submissions.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but and we have.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: We have a few just straight up questions, but I
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: kind of have to like sort sort through them.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Here, I get it. Uh.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: And Andrew was in the med Eater store this morning
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: and saw Maggie in the wild and was starstruck. But
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: that just that just goes to show you that even
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: even our crew members go shop at the mediat store.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Fort Hi, Andrew.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I can't believe you didn't buy this one. Get this.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I almost did, and then I thought we'd be matching
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: if I came.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: In was the luckiest hunting hat I've ever owned. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I think like five or six big game animals have
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: fallen I've been wearing, so you like when you're going.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Hunt now, like you feel weird if you don't have
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: it on.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear it through the end of this season
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and then I'll retire put it in the auction house
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: oddities or something. But I'm telling you, if you're having
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: a rough season right now, go order yourself. When he's
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: wired to hunt, buck ats.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: As what everybody wants is a stinky hunting hat.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Nathan still Will says, with the deer, I am putting
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: the rib meat into the grind for burger. How much
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: would you worry about having the fat tallow attached to
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: the meat going into the grind? Will it affect the
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: flavor or texture?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I think it depends on the deer. Like a big
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: buck with a bunch of that tallow on the outside
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: of his chest, Yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: Be a little waxy.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've gotten away from using that type of
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: meat in my I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I am, but that rib meat is just full of gristle,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: and the more gristle your burger has the shittier your
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: burger's going to be. I know people don't like sacrificing
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: like big hole muscle roasts off the ham or off
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: the shoulder, but like that's what I use for burger.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: It makes better burger.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I would just save the ribs to cook.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: His ribs agreed, or de bone them and then chop
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: them up real small and make stew or any other
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: slow and low preparation like you would do with the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: neck or the shanks, melt that stuff. Where that stuff
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: that you're like worrying about, how what to deal with
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: deal with it, and how it's gonna be negative to
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: your recipe. If you slow and low those ribs, it's
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna add to the flavor and the consistency
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: in the recipe.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I mean he's specifically asking about fat and tallow. I
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: would get rid of as much of that as you can.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: But you can't get rid of all that gristle that's
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: in the rib meat. You just can't.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Great, most of everything else has been cookbook stuff. But
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna this is a phill question that Brody loves.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: To John's asking if I'm playing Battlefield six. I am not,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: but alex Plocta, who's our social guy who plays trivia occasionally,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: is playing red SEC and we might play together soon.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: So that's fun. Oh you guys can have a little
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: video game play day now, John. I just rolled credits
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: on Hades two.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I'm in the act three of Hollow Night Silk Song
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: and I'm playing Ghost of Yot, which I'm kind of
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: bouncing off of. I'm kind of phil I've got open
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: world fatigue. Yeah, Brody, what.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe you're not willing to share because you don't want
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: to get attacked online? But what's your like online video
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: hand video game plan? Handle?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, you don't have to.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to share it, Okay, you gotta tell me.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I shared it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: I shared it once before on Ben O'Brien's old podcast,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: and even then with with his smaller audience, I got
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: inundated with a bunch of requests from I'm sure find people,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: but I like to have a clean free.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: We should run a contest to have people guess your handle.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think some people do. All right. Is
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: that all for now?
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all for now, but please send in some
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: more straight up questions for the end of the show,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: because we're a little light on those.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Questions and a good reason you you need that their cookbook. Okay,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Next up, we are going to be checking in with
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: some around the country for some boots on the ground reports.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: But before we get to them, I just want to
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: check in with you guys. Gianness. You got some exciting
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: stuff showing up on your trail cams.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say exciting. It's kind of what you expect.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Deer movement, lots of deer movement, more daylight movement than
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: a month ago. It's not like the cams all Sunner
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: just lit up with you know, Boon and Crockett type bucks.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: And I try to remind myself and my dad especially
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: a lot all the time, is that, like you can't
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: not make hunting decisions based on cameras. And we have
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know, we're you know, partners
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: with Boultrie, so basically have as many cameras I want
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: to run. There's probably two dozen of them out there
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: right now, but still deer walk behind them, they walk
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: sometimes in front of them and don't get their picture taken.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: You just like I like them have them for like
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: a general inventory. I know where there's like a bunch
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: of dos are hanging out right now, which that's a
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: good thing to know for the rut, you know, like
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: where they're hanging out. So yeah, that's my trail cameraport.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Maggie said, you're you're not gonna be I'm not.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: But I have seen more mule deer running around. Yeah,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: which is cool to see, except for you know, I
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: was driving up from Wyoming last night, so I was
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: driving pretty slow the whole way because I saw quite
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: a few deer running around, especially driving it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: You know, I think the way to avoid them is
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: drive faster.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, take a look at my truck and then maybe
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: you consider that.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I have one day of mule deer
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: hunting in this year. Just a few days ago, there
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: was some some small box four ki's that were like
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: hanging with those fought like getting their nose up near
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the dose. But but it's just like that mule deer, right,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I feel lags behind the white tail rut a little bit.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I did have that big buck that was that was
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: checking a dough, but he was like not ruddy. He
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna walk over there and see what's
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: going on? And then he walked away. So like I'm
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: hoping because I'm heading to Colorado, I'm hoping that it's
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: it's gonna start kicking off good. Let's check out the
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: actual in the field. Reports Phil.
• 45:22
  Speaker 11: Hey Spencer new Arth bringing you a rut report from
• 45:25
  Speaker 11: November three. I am in eastern Montana hunting a place
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: that is almost exclusively mule deer, So that's the kind
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: of information you're getting from me. Last night I saw
• 45:37
  Speaker 11: thirty to forty muley doze broke up into like ten
• 45:41
  Speaker 11: different groups, and not a single one of them had
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: a buck with them. I think if it was a
• 45:46
  Speaker 11: week from now, two weeks from now, that would have
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: been a different story. But clearly the mulis out here
• 45:52
  Speaker 11: are not at a stage in the rut where they
• 45:55
  Speaker 11: dos are getting too harassed quite yet, Otherwise I would
• 45:59
  Speaker 11: have seen it last night. This morning I saw a
• 46:03
  Speaker 11: bachelor group of three bucks together. They were leaving an
• 46:07
  Speaker 11: egg field headed to bad right at about shooting light,
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: and those three bucks seemed kind of irritated with each other.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: A couple of them.
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: Postured, looked like they were going to lock antlers. At
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: one point, a different buck I saw him rubbing his
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: antlers thrashing around in one of those draws, and one
• 46:26
  Speaker 11: of those bucks I killed right at sunrise, and I'll
• 46:31
  Speaker 11: go show him to you in the back of my
• 46:32
  Speaker 11: pickup here right now.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Here he is.
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: I was doing that rot report from inside of my
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: truck because it is so damn windy out here, and
• 46:41
  Speaker 11: I care about our listeners. This buck was the biggest
• 46:46
  Speaker 11: buck in that bachelor group. And if I'd have been
• 46:51
  Speaker 11: out here a week later, he might have been in
• 46:53
  Speaker 11: a different county because he seemed like he was getting
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: amped up to chase some tail. All right, I will
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: be hosting Meat Eater Radio next week. I'll have more
• 47:04
  Speaker 11: on this story. Then back to you, Brody, nice buck.
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: Nice Tony Peterson's got your rut report right here.
• 47:12
  Speaker 12: As you can see, you should probably be in a
• 47:14
  Speaker 12: tree right now. Not a huge surprise, that is, it's
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: the first week of November.
• 47:18
  Speaker 13: Put in all fairness, he killed it four minutes into
• 47:20
  Speaker 13: his first sit, so he has really no idea what's
• 47:22
  Speaker 13: going on.
• 47:23
  Speaker 12: I did sit there for two extra hours.
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: Afterward, right, did you see rud act like after you
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: were done hunting, did you observe any.
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: I was drinking a Starbucks energy drinking, eating a protein bar,
• 47:36
  Speaker 12: and I did see a little buck come through cruising.
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: He was rotting.
• 47:39
  Speaker 12: This dude was looking. That dude was looking, and we
• 47:41
  Speaker 12: had does going between and they were not together. So
• 47:44
  Speaker 12: it was just like Bucks for Roman. Does were trying
• 47:47
  Speaker 12: to avoid him. But it's definitely even being sixty five
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: degrees seventy degrees today, they were going.
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: I'll like to return to something in case people missed.
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: It four minutes into his first set, right, but I
• 48:01
  Speaker 13: would like to I would like to wrap this up
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: by asking Steve what he was doing when I shot
• 48:05
  Speaker 13: this book.
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: I was trying to help the deer heard by doing
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: some kyot work on November four, And that's why that
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: bunk was free to see who he was, you know.
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: Right, because the real threat wasn't in the woods to
• 48:18
  Speaker 12: get out there.
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: Oh you know what, Tony had found him on a
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: camera and his name was He might not have heard
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: it before. His name was old split times you put
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: an old old try split is what he should have been, right,
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: pretty derivative, dear name here. We didn't go too far
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: outside of the lines. I'm trying not to seem jealous.
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: Do I see him jealous Chilli, I seem good. I
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: seemed like I seem like I'm not like, I don't care, right,
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: I don't think a jealous man would go Kyle November four?
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: It was like I didn't know. I mean, who could
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: have foreseen that in November four?
• 48:55
  Speaker 12: You should definitely not go to your tree stand and
• 48:57
  Speaker 12: go run a trap lane out on the moonscape and
• 48:59
  Speaker 12: the brass.
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: Guy, I can see where you're coming from on.
• 49:02
  Speaker 12: It anyway, get into a tree right now?
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: Oh look, how didn't notice that he's been rubbing? Rubbing
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: big time?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: These guys need to work on their report and skills.
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: East Nebraska. Rudd is running.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Before after?
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: No?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Is it over? Oh no, it's still going. It's one
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: wait before we go to the next one. I got
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: addendum to this one. Our buddy Pat was also out
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: there hunting with those guys. He got a buck as well.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: So it's happening out.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: There and Steve's chasing coyotes.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: M hm, well now he's he's in a tree trying
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: to kill a deer.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Now, all right, back to the report. I don't think
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: we need to finish this one.
• 49:54
  Speaker 14: What's up, meteor Live, I'm bear newkeom coming at you
• 49:57
  Speaker 14: with a report for the Southeast. I've been hunting a
• 50:00
  Speaker 14: lot the last two weeks, and I've really seen the
• 50:02
  Speaker 14: rut activity start to pick up the last couple of days.
• 50:05
  Speaker 14: The first chase I saw was the last couple days
• 50:09
  Speaker 14: of October. But this week I've seen two big shooter
• 50:14
  Speaker 14: bucks that I haven't seen before, both chasing doze. So
• 50:18
  Speaker 14: the rut, I would say, is coming into its peak
• 50:21
  Speaker 14: over here. Next week we've got a big cold front
• 50:24
  Speaker 14: coming and so i'd imagine that that will be probably
• 50:28
  Speaker 14: the peak of the rut. But I've been seeing a
• 50:30
  Speaker 14: lot of chasing. I've seen three or four chases alone
• 50:35
  Speaker 14: this week, and the big bucks are starting to come
• 50:38
  Speaker 14: out of the woodwork. But I'm switching over from food
• 50:41
  Speaker 14: sources right now, switching more to travel corridors and other
• 50:45
  Speaker 14: pinch points, and have been having a lot of luck
• 50:48
  Speaker 14: that way. There's also a few spots where I saw
• 50:51
  Speaker 14: a lot of does in the early season, and I
• 50:54
  Speaker 14: went into one of those spots the other day and
• 50:57
  Speaker 14: instantly got in on a chase. There are three box
• 51:00
  Speaker 14: chasing one do, so the rut is in full swing.
• 51:03
  Speaker 14: If there's ever a time to be out in the woods,
• 51:05
  Speaker 14: it's right now, So good luck to all of you
• 51:07
  Speaker 14: guys who are getting out there.
• 51:11
  Speaker 15: Hello everybody, good morning from central Wisconsin, giving you a
• 51:14
  Speaker 15: little rust. Sitting at the breakfast table this morning, coming
• 51:18
  Speaker 15: up with a solid hunt plan for the next few days,
• 51:22
  Speaker 15: and I think I think we've got a good plan. Anyways,
• 51:26
  Speaker 15: what I've been seeing is a lot of the mature
• 51:29
  Speaker 15: dominant bucks have been pretty locked down on doughs, so
• 51:32
  Speaker 15: the ruts obviously happening right now. It's a good time
• 51:36
  Speaker 15: of year to be sitting all day. Once those bigger,
• 51:39
  Speaker 15: mature deer you know, get off that dough, they breeder,
• 51:42
  Speaker 15: they start looking for another one, they're going to be cruising.
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: So what I'm.
• 51:46
  Speaker 15: Focusing on is betting areas, so down wind side of
• 51:50
  Speaker 15: betting areas, pinch points between betting areas, and then also
• 51:54
  Speaker 15: in the evenings and mornings, transitions between you know, the
• 51:58
  Speaker 15: betting area and food. Wherever those doughs are going to be,
• 52:01
  Speaker 15: those bucks are going to be checking them out. So
• 52:04
  Speaker 15: be careful on the roads driving at night in Wisconsin.
• 52:07
  Speaker 15: You know, it's a hazard, so deer are running around.
• 52:11
  Speaker 15: Good luck to everybody, and I hope you get out there,
• 52:14
  Speaker 15: and I hope you shoot a big buck.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: What acuting there?
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: You have?
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: It sounds like things are happening. Does that get you
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: real excited? You're honest?
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I was kind of joking about being
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: here for the rut report. The thing about a rut
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: report is like it's never gonna change because what one
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: person sees doesn't really make a difference. What you could
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: be the next ridge over, next valley over, county over,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: it could be a completely different thing, just depending on
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: if you're where the hot dough is or not right
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: or Chester there has got some cool video like he's
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: been in them, Like they obviously have a hot dough
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: that these bucks are around. But like Mark, is it
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: a great podcasts with about like what science says about
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the rut? And those fawns are all they try to
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: be all born, or I should say their moms all
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: try to give birds sure on the same day so
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: that they have the fauns have the best chance of survive.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: It's called predators.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Well that's one reason, but the other reason too is
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: that like if it's Memorial Day, which is from like Pennsylvania,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: just take that latinitude on the line across the Midwest,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: like you have the most food on the ground.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: They try to time it with the green up.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you don't want to be too early because
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you don't have enough food. It can you can still
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: be get some cold nights and you could die when
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: you're only weigh two pounds, you know, as a deer.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: And so like the peak breeding is going to always
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: be sure, it just might happen at night or that
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: gestation period before you know whatever that is two hundred
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: some days before Memorial Day, right, So it's fun to
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: hear about what people are seeing and what's happening. But
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: every single year for the rest of our lives across
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: like the Midwest, right like roughly November one to November fifteenth, twentieth,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty good hunting.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, it's it's good to know what's
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: going on around some different areas.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. Like I said, it's entertaining.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: It's about the hype, yep, I'm hyped the Obviously we're
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: in the hard of hunting season here, so we're gonna
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: we're gonna share some recent crew hunt stories. No, boy, Maggie,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: what do you got?
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I U I was zel hunting this year,
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: and uh, I'm gonna.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Pull up the pictures, Maggie.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Is that not something you do every year?
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: I mean it is. So I kind of been like
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: year on year off for the health reasons.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: So like last year, I was just U I was
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: packing out, so I was I was hunting, I just
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: wasn't pulling the trigger because my eyeballs were messed up, right,
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: But so yeah, this year it was my turn to
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: pull the trigger. And we had a real slow October.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: We hunted every weekend in October and did not have
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: a single opportunity to show it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Now, the thing about Wyoming is their rifle season starts
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: like October first. Yeah, they're still rutting, you know.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Well they're real high up too, and we don't have
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: pack animals or nothing, so and I just had a
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: general tag. So we're kind of hopping around because it's
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: like one place will be open for a couple of
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: weeks for bull and then another place will and so
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: it's like sort of just hopped around for where we
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: could hunt because I was like, you know, I'd like
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: to shoot a bull if I can, I'd be cool.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: You know, It's I'm a meat hunter. But I also
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: can't help it that I want to shoot something with horns.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: So I think we ended up hunting four different areas
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: in total, and uh, this last one was like, all right,
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: there's a cold front coming in, feeling good about it,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: We're gonna hunt this new spot. We were scouting out
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: on Onyx and like we're both from the area, so
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: we're pretty familiar with you know, where to go. It's
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: just a matter of where there's gonna be people, where
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be elk, and so uh.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Usually there were where the people aren't.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and that was we got pretty lucky.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: We uh we saw these elk first thing in the morning,
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: but it was just dumping snow and it was like
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: they were like five hundred yards away. So we were
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: just kind of chomping around falling tracks all day, like trying.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: To saw a bunch of elk, but then didn't go
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: after them.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Well we did, but they we just we kind of
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: lost them in the timber we we were we were
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: trying to get after him. We eventually got back to
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: those elk. It was the same It was the same
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: group where I shot that bull at like three o'clock
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: that afternoon, So It was just a matter of like
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: looping around, crawling around in some downfall hell holes, and
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: finally coming back to an open meadow where we could
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: get to him.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Were you tracking him in the snow or just looking
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: for him?
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: It was both, and then we had a pretty good
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: idea of where they'd be. We kind of gave him
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: some time in the afternoon, went on a little side quest,
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: saw some real big bull tracks, and I was getting
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: it really excited. We were going to see a bigger elk,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: which we didn't, but I'm still happy to shoot little
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: four by five elk.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: He's real tasty.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Listen, those young bulls are the ones.
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: O my gosh, young bulls. I don't think anything can
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: top it.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: You're rolling the dice with those cows. Man, they could
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: be like feen years old.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: I was just explaining that to my mom, like just
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: the other night. I was like, I don't know, I
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: feel like I'm kind of a cougar hunter, Mom, I
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: like the young bulls.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: And then oh that's Bill. That's uh, that's my bird dog.
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: Bill.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: He's happy, he is, he's ready to spend some time,
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: and he got to fetch like one duck that day.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: We were kind of just tramping around.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: It was a quick morning hunt because we had an
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: elk to cut up that afternoon.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Uh, we just wanted to get him out.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: So Bill is happy to get some elk scraps and
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: happy to be be the star of the show from
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: here on out.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: Nice work, Maggie, Thanks, it was a fun hunt. Oh
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: I forgot.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: I brought you guys a little treat milk jerky from
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: my bowl. But I've been told it is not a
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: fun auditory experience to listen to people eat jerky.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I eat jerky and tell my hunting stories at the
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: same time.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: We'll save it for after the show.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: But uh, I mean, I don't give a show I'm
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: looking for.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to trying.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: If you haven't tried, uh, Danielle Prue Its smoked venison
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: jerky recipes.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: It's heavy on the smoke.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: It's uh it's my go to favorite and it's it's
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: worth trying out.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: I tweak it a little bit, but we'll try.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: It here in a few minutes. Yeah, your honest letters
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: hungry all right.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I started with this first slide because, uh, it turns
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: out this is my biggest bull to date. Bow or rifle. Yeah, Yehnie,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and UH didn't really know what I had until I
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: walked upon him and found him. Uh so, yeah, that's
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: exciting Corey. Uh, it's taped him for me the other day,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: three ten inches on the dot. He's pretty stoked. Next
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: picture shows Uh, speaking of eating bulls, the backstrap was
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: very surprised. I've actually sort of reorganized my freezer and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: my plant because I've got a lot of meat this year, caribou, deer,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: lots of deer with the kids shooting deer, this bull,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: and I was gonna give away a lot of elk steaks,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: but this bull is eating extremely well, Like even the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: hind quarter steaks have been very tender, just delicious. So
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I'm actually starting to hoard this bull's meat a little
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: bit more.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Well you can like you can keep that Like people
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: think it's like a year, Like you could be eating
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: that bull three years from now.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure. Let's see. Next there's a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: buck of gott in Idaho. Whatever. Nice buck.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Fun hunt.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: What made it super fun was hanging out with our
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: buddy Max Barda, who you can see in the next photo.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Oh no, we had We had an awesome tent site
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: where you could literally glass for bucks right out of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: the tent door. S Yeah, there was a little bit
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: of snow up high and it was not That was
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: kind of probably the last camping trip of the year.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: We got to spend three nights on the mountain.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Packed some pizza in there.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we made we made a pit stop on
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: the drive down and we were having some pizza and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, let's add a uh, let's
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: add a few more slices to this order and then
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: we can have some in the mountains. So we packed
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: some up in the into the mountains with us, and uh, yeah,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: it was great to share a week with Max. All right,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: here's here's the exciting stuff. Here's youth hunt with my daughters.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: We are three hundred fifty yards maybe a little bit
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: less from a betted buck. Mabel was the one to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: be shooting. Mabel laid there on that on that buck
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: for nine hours. We got there on to that spot
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: right there at ten am. That buck never stood up.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: We yelled at it. Aina, my other daughter shot bullets
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: ten feet long. Nine hours really ten ten to What
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: time did you get dark out there?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was that like but a lot. Yeah,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: eight hours maybe.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Well ten to six would be eight. I guess, all right,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: eight hours.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: Long time and she's like staring through the scope.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, on a bettered buck. And the one thing Brody
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: later told me I should have tried is to I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: didn't have with me. But I'll get to that fawn
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: and distress that. Oh Brody's gonna talk about it anyways.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah. The next slide shows that when you're waiting
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: for eight hours on a buck, it takes some masks.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: My girls have become extremely good at napping because they're
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: both napping. I'm like, who's watching the deer? To stand
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: up you?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: So?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Did you guys have the sun? I'll gladly do it.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Did that sun get behind you? Like you weren't having
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: to stare into the sun to watch that buck? No,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: that's good.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: No, No, we're looking kind of doo east actually, so
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I got behind us for sure. And then let's see,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: was that it for all my pictures?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: That was it?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 10: That was it?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Okay? Oh well, I was gonna mention last night Mabel,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: who did not get a shot off that day. We
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: went on a hunt last night to a very target
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: rich environment not far from Bosman a lot of white
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: tail deer, she kind of I asked her. I thought
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: this was a clever answer. I said, are you gonna
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: shoot the first box that comes out? Which I thought
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: she would say, yes, you know, to be successful, put
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: some meat down. She goes, uh, depends on what he
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: looks like. So then we had to look over. We
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: had to look over. We literally saw more deer yesterday
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: than I'll see on on my entire Wisconsin hunt. I mean,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We saw probably close to one hundred
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: white tail deer and multiple bucks that we were like, okay,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: too small, small to medium, two medium, little, getting a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: little bit better than we finally got. We saw a
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: few that were like big enough and they the one
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: big enough buck came to us, got to within two hundred,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: like with twenty minutes of light left, and we were
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: like safety off, ready to shoot him. And that sucker
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: had been feeding all evening, not running doughs, nothing up
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: until that point, like just out of range. And then
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: once he like came into range within the doors, he
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: just got full on ruddy and he would not stand
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: still long enough for an eleven year old to make
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the shop and It was funny because I was like
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: talking her through the whole time. I'm like, Okay, he's
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: the one facing left, he's the one facing right, he's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: running right. He's got dough behind him now, And all
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: the time she's like, yeah, okay, I'm on this. I'm
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: on the right buck. I'm on the right buck. Okay,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: he's got a dough going right to left behind him. Yep,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I'm on the buck. I'm on the buck. And then
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: as light was fading and they were getting a little
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: bit farther away from us, I could like hear her
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: answers and her voice starting to crack a little bit,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: as in like, oh, I know it's not gonna happen tonight.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going home, bucklest I gotta tell the story about
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: not shooting one. And then multiple times she's like I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: think I'm looking at him, but there's also some grass
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: and like I want to be sure, And I'm like, yeah,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: you can't shoot if you're not sure. You know, you
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: gotta be sure, And so we had that a bunch.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: So anyways, it's like, it would have been great to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: kill a buck last night, But at the same time,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, she's killed I guess she's only killed one
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: other bucks. She's got three dollars. Now, it's all been
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: pretty easy form, right. It's good to have a couple
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: of hunts where she's just having to work for it
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: and not have just success just laid in her lap.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Again, Definitely, definitely she'll get one this season. I guess
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: that leads me, Phil, Can you pull up the antelope
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: one first? This is my kid Hayden. This was opening
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: day of antelope season. The reason like, he shot an antelope, four,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: he shot bucks, he shot a elk, like the kids
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: killed some animals. The reason I'm showing this picture is
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: because this year I kind of decided I was going
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: to let him make most of the the decisions, like
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: on how the hunt went. And it started like at
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: first light, like we were parked on a high spot
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: on a road to glass as you do for antelope,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: and I was like, let's check what would be the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: north side of the road, because we had in the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: passing a lot of antelope in that zone. And he's like, no,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: we should glass the south side of the road first,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: because pretty soon we will be staring into the sun
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: over there and we won't be able to glass it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, man, kid's got a point. So we
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: like hike in in low ways, get on a knob,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: start classing, and he found five antelope like within minutes,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: and I was like, it's great. There's a like I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: couldn't I couldn't tell if like with my eyes and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like quite you know, light light yet if
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: there was a buck or not. But he's and he's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: just freehanding a pair of those Siga image State one.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: He's like one of us buck like cool. But and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I was like, we can't. There's like no way we
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: can't go straight at him, like they're gonna see us,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: you know. So I'm like, what do you think we
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: should do? And he's looking around and he picks a
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: route like a circular, you know, half circle route around
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: like sounds good to me. And we kind of eventually
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: get up into that zone near where they were. We
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: had a little like pointy like dirt mound kind of
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: thing we're using as a landmark, and man, we got
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: in there and it's just like where are they? Because
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: you get in that antelope stuff and it's broken and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: there you realize that they were in a low spot.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: You couldn't really tell from the road. And We're sitting
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: there for a while and I was like, man, I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: think we should like creep forward like fifty yards and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: get a look into that low spot. He's like, no,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: let's stay here. Sure enough, a few minutes later, we
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: see some ears and some horns and uh. Eventually they
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: feed up out of that low spot and I'm like
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: two fifty and you know, he took care of everything else.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: It was cool because it was like, really like his
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: hunt for the Yeah, for the first time.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like from the at least the details that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: you shared that you might just want to let him
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: continue to do that, start guiding you a little bit,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: look in.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: The right direction, exactly exactly.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: I like that you are doing that with him, because
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I told both my girls too. At the end of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: this year's youth Hunt, I'm like, next year, I'm not glassing.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm in glass because I like the glass, and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, I see some bucks.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Find them.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm like, you guys are gonna have to
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: find them, yeah, because otherwise they just like they like
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: to hang out while dad's glassing up the critters. Yeah,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna I'm gonna make them find the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: fine deer.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Yep, we can do the next one there, Phil, all right,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: that's my younger son.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: This year he turned ten, so he first year he's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: able to hunt in Montana. And you know, same thing,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: youth hunt. We do a youth hunt together a group
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: of us, and this was opening morning, and he definitely
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: wasn't like looking for my other kid was looking for
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: a big one, the one that got the antelope. But Conley,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: the younger one, was like any buck. And we went
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: kind of in a zone we had hunted in years past,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: and his brother was a little bummed because that was
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: like his brother's zone. But just me and Conley went
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: in there and it was windy and cold that morning.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: He was suffering a little bit while while we're glassing around,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: and things calmed down, like maybe an hour after shooting
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: l like eight thirty, it kind of got a little warmer,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: the wind calmed down, and I glassed up two little
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: teeny bucks, like one of them might have been a forky,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: the other one was probably a spike. But it was like,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: all right, it's on, let's go, And we had to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: kind of hustle down this drainage to get into shooting position,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: and these two bucks were like oblivious to what was
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: going on. We were out in the open and they
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: just weren't looking our direction. And I got conly set
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: up for a cross candying shot that was a little
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: over three hundred, and you know, get him. He's laying down,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: he's shooting off a bipod and kaboom, Like I say,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: are you steady? All that stuff. We go through the
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: whole thing and he lets one fly and misses, and
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: one of the bucks continues to stand there. The other
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: one runs. I was pretty sure he had missed, but
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: the other one ran in a way that I was like,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: we got a check. We went down there and he's like,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: can I shoot it the other one? It's like, nobody,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: We got to make sure you didn't hit the first one.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: So we went in there and we spent a good
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: thirty to forty five minutes looking for blood and hair nothing,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: and he was down man like bummed out first first opportunity.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: He was definitely like bummed, like no tears, but like close,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: you know. And I was like, man, we gotta both
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: hold it together and just go find another one. And
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: an hour later we found a buck betted down and
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: the train laid out nicely for us to get set up,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: but it was still three hundred yards and he was
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: bedded like on a timbered hillside. And I forgot to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: mention that. Earlier that morning, when we had first sat
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: down to start glassing, we'd heard some like hooting and
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: hollering way off in the distance, and well, Conley was like,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: is that a coyote? And I was like, man, I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: don't like I think it was people. And the first
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: thing that came to mind is like, there might be
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: some cowboys in here, because there's cattle in the area
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: we're hunting. Anyway, we're laid down on this buck. He
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: dry fires on it a couple times, like he's comfortable,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: he's solid, everything's looking good. And I tell him, like,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: we might have to lay here for a while, you know,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: before he stands up and he's cool with it. And
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: then we hear that hooting and hollering again, and I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: look off that direction and maybe a thousand yards away,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: here comes two cowboys with a couple of dogs pushing
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: some cows, and I like know that zone well enough
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: to know where they are, that that cattle trail is
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: going to go right under that buck, like right under him,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, really, like what do
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: we do here? And I told Conley, I was like,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: we can lay here and see if that buck just
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: lets them go underneath him and nothing happens, which and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, I think the buck's gonna spook because
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: they're gonna get too close to him. Or I can
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: hit this fond this fond bleat real loud a couple
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: times and try and get him to stand up. There's
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: a chance like he could run, but there's a good
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: chance he'll stand up. And he didn't even think about it.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: He's like hit the bond bleek like I don't want
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: the horses running underneath that deer.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: And I did it.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: The buck stood up. I was like, are you solid aim,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: you know? And ten seconds later, boom he kills the buck.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: Nice yeah, And then like.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: The cowboys were out of sight. They had to cross
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: this draw. But I was like, Conley, we're gonna like
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: walk over that direction and talk to him before we
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: go look for your buck. And we went over there
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: as young couple, very nice. I was like, you know,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: he just shot. They're like we heard the shot. Hope
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: you get I mean, and then the guy's like, did
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: you see any cows down the hill? I was like, yeah,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch down there. So they just took off
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: and look for their cows. We went up there and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: found the buck and it was all smiles. You know,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: it's fun.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was fired up.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. All right, thanks for listening to our stories, guys.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: It's always fun to fun to talk hunting. We're gonna
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: move on to the cookbook box set contest here. If
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: you don't know about this thing, can you see that thing, Phil,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: I'll move it over there we go. If you don't
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: know about this is like a special edition, kind of
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: limited run. We didn't print a million of these things.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: It's got both of our cookbooks in it, the original
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Media to Cookbook, Fishing Game Cookbook and the Outdoor Cookbook,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: their paperback, which is kind of nice. You can fit
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: them both in there. It's a really good Christmas gift. Uh,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: pretty economical way to get both of them. You can
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: pre order them now if you really want to. They
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: go on sale next Tuesday. If you want a signed
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: copy like this, when we've got a limited number of them,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: that only available on the website or you can you
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: can our two retail locations in Bozeman and Milwaukee also
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: have some, so you could pick one up there, but
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: not until Tuesday when the book releases. You got anything
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: to say, you honest about like these two cookbooks? Making
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: of them? What you think about favorite meals, recipes, anything
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of fun to make. Yeah, it's
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: always a fun project. Yeah, especially because we plan them
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: not in the hunting season, which is smart of us.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Yep, get to eat a lot of food.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: The one I keep going back to in the original
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: cookbook is the fish stew.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: I love that recipe. We got a bunch of hal
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: but now which tends.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 7: To do very well.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Is it a chowder? I can't remember. Yeah, I mean
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: it's kind of one of the same and well, no,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: it's doing chowder are the same thing?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: I think chowder is like creamy yeah?
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's got creamy yeah yeah. I feel like
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: we call it fish stew in the book. Anyways, Yeah,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: no matter, get the book, try it out. It's a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: Is the recipe in there?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah? The original is the original that started a
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: nationwide osubuko movement.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, save your damn shanks, folks.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Yep, drown that thing in some red wine for several
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, they're They're both great a lot of
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: like the original for like Beginner Hunters, Wild Game Chefs
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: like it's got great butcher and tips, fantastic butcher and tips.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: The Outdoor cookbooks got some great like gear and equipment information.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: You love them.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: But let's move on, philed to see if we can
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: actually pick a winner.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I'm just gonna rapid fire through a bunch
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: of these and then you guys just kind of flag
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: them in your head. By far the most the answer
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: that came up the most was that my my wife
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: or my girlfriend thinks my cooking is terrible and this
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: would help me. There were so many of those that
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think I picked any of them. You guys,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: step up your game.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are gonna have to buy this thing. Sorry, yeah, sorry,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: let's see.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just gonna run through these, welcome, says Brodie.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: If I win, I will put the recipes into the
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: fall menu of the kitchen I manage?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: Is that a copyright?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: All?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next question. Also you can't
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: do that with Wild Game if it's like a restaurant kitchen.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he's just talking about the recipes anyway.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeh, that's gonna be ay.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Ben says, need a new recipe for my tag tag
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: soups getting a little stale. Kevin says, my seven year
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: old daughter's favorite show to watch together as a mediator
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: in your favorite way of helping in the kitchen is
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: cooking Wild Game with me. Having these cookbooks would give
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: us infinite memory getting better mogre our, Dude, why should
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: I win this book because I've already cleared shelf space
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: and trained my cat to turn pages. I don't win,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: I'll be forced to read cereal boxes again. Don't let
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: that happen.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Where live like shipping this thing to him?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: It could be expensive, let's see, Brian says, contingency plan
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: for acquiring the cookbook filled you accept bribes?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: My venmo is Phil Taylor six. Let's see it won't
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: chair his video game handle those? Yeah?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: Duh, Ethan, anytime I cook Wild Game, I truly feel
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: like I'm disrespecting my harvest unless I'm using one of
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Stee's recipes. No, others come close. Just ask my wife
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: how many times I've said this.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: They like, that's sucking up a little bit. Yeah, a
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: Uh speaking of sucking up or well that sounds mean
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna read it.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: Ritzman says, I'm a young adult who recently got married,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: had my first baby, and I'm hunting, butchering and cooking
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: solo for the first time in my life. And then
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: he's got a part two. My dad was my mentor
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: for years, but a devastating shattered pelvis left left him
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: unable to keep up the tradition. The cookbooks would be
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: one more arrow in my quiver and bringing the hunt
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: tradition in to my family. Another one from Brian, He
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: says ax Barta would want the cookbook to go to
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: his favorite native North Dakota.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Brian.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: When Max wins a game of trivia, I will send
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: you so many cookbooks.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: There you go. To be honest, you're getting excited about
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: any of these? Not really?
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, apologies, I flagged the flagged the ones that that
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: that's jumped out to me.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Remember Brody, I was looking for entertainment, I know, entertaining.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: But there's a guy named Adam who has been just
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: typing out verses from the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: and replacing random words with cookbook. I'm not going to
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: select yours, Adam, but you're gonna love the Meat Eater
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: podcast on Monday.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Phil, We gotta find a winner here. This
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: is dragging on too.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: Listen, you guys. You guys can can jump into the chat. Honestly,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: out of all of them. When Mogors popped up, I
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: was like, I thought that he would just take it
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: because it was funny.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: We love Mogor.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get it. We'll ship it to me.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: There was one that kind of made me laugh, but
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: it was just how it was written, and it's this is.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: My favorite one.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to put on the screen because
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: of the profanity, but I will read it and censor it.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: Steven says cookbook. I don't want or deserve no stinking cookbook,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: but an fed up truck calendar that I deserve. I
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: deserved an f up anything for that matter. That's from Steven.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: All right, well, let's do this. Mogor gets the book
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: and Steven gets the calendar.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Sounds good too.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: How's that? No, Mogor send uh, don't send your address
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: and stuff to me, send it to.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: Like the radio at the meat eater dot com, which
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: is the correct email address.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: There we go. All right, we got any other like comments.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: But I've got a plane to catch soon, so let's
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: wrap this baby up.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: How about that? All right, we'll shut you guys down.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: We'll have I mean, this is already on the longer
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: side of the show.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. Thank you, Thanks everybody for
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: tuning in and get out there in the woods of
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: the ruts on take it easy.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Bite